Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "The Gospel of the Goose" (w/ Kesha)
Episode Date: July 15, 2026Join Matt, Bowen and self proclaimed "walking psychedelic trip" KESHA on this episode of Las Culturistas, which begs the question: should Kesha open up a supermarket that sells "pop rocks flavored blu...e Kesha ramen"? The three silly gooses discuss that, as well as hoarding, doing mushrooms in the desert, and building community amongst millions of Animals out there. Also, working with Rick Rubin and Ryan Lewis to discover new depths to Kesha's voice and artistry, how hearing "Drop It Like It's Hot" opened up a world of musical possibility for Kesha, the sexual awakening that was Will Smith in the late 90's, and collecting teeth. All this, raging on the Kesha Cruise with Bob the Drag Queen and Big Freedia, spirituality, and the idea that Kesha is on her last human life. You are the crazy people, and you are also the fortunate people that Kesha blessed LC with her time! Listen to "Origami" now and see Kesha on The Freedom Tour! Kesha makes our heart beat like an 808 drum. And so do you <3See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Look, man.
Where? Oh, I see.
Wow.
Bowen, look over there.
Wow, is that culture.
Oh, my goodness.
Wow.
Las cultureistas.
Ding dong.
Las Culturistas calling.
Ding dong, kind of a cousin of TikTok.
If you really say.
down and think about it.
Both things in the home.
Yeah, for sure.
Those that tell you something's happening.
Clocks do both.
Clocks do both.
Ding, dong, on the bell, but the party is swell.
You know, we aren't lyricists like our guest.
But I am always saying these days, take me to Shibuya.
You're always saying that.
Always saying that.
And I'm wanting to, Amanda, turn me into Oregon.
me bad.
Honey.
And it's the summer.
It's the summer.
I want to be a crane up in that thing.
I want to be a paper plane.
If you see me at Thai tea and you haven't made me into origami, you're not doing drag.
But this is actually a huge day.
You know, our guests will never remember this.
But we met a couple years ago at the Elton John after Oscar party.
Yes, a fab event.
And we're standing in line for drinks and it's taking a while.
This is not to shade the event.
No, no, no.
It's a packed bar.
It's a good.
At this moment, it was taking a second.
And our guest, as a joke, just takes a champagne bottle off the thing and goes to turn around.
And then put it back.
She was kidding.
But I did turn to her and say, I'm very happy to see you do a very Kesha thing in the wild.
And she smiled and laughed.
A star's smile and laugh.
A star's smile and laugh.
And here she is.
Have you met our guest?
I have not had the pleasure.
Well.
And this is very, very cool.
You figure, well, we'll tell you while you have a chance to respond.
God, she is coming out with a new music, thank goodness.
On tour, the freedom tour.
Freedom tour, period.
CEO of Kesha Records.
There you go.
Get into it.
We're so happy she's here.
Everyone welcome.
Kesha!
We've been waiting for this day.
Honestly, same.
Truly.
I'm very excited.
What do you make of this champagne moment?
That sounds right.
It sounds about right.
I'm surprised I put it back.
it was taking long enough where you would have been well within your rights to hit the road with it, so to speak.
I mean, that sounds about right.
That's not right.
But like, these bartenders, come on.
I love them.
The eye contact, they are strategically withholding, of course.
They have to, like, manage it.
Sometimes I'm like, I'm just a guy standing in front of a bartender.
Just a boy in a bar.
Asking you to serve me.
Asking you to serve me.
But I
What do you make of
Us repeating your lyrics
Becky?
Are you like...
I live for that.
Okay.
That is why I do this.
So people quote me to me.
Yeah.
I love it.
See, thank God for you
Because there are some people out here
We're like, oh, I just don't.
I don't know.
It's not.
What do you mean?
Yeah, no.
This is what art is.
I do pop songs.
I was just played a show
and there were like so many people
dressed like me.
You know what that?
does for me.
I actually can pass away happy.
And I see people dressed as me when I was 21 years old.
Yeah, embodying.
I live.
I can I just before I, before the chance escapes me.
Yes, go.
Like, I am the dance commander.
I command you to dance is one of the greatest remix albums of all time.
Thank you.
Or just remix EPs.
What would you call that?
I just was the dance commander.
It was what the dance.
It's just what was commanded at me.
It's just what was commanded at you.
Because fuck him, he's a DJ is a text for a generation.
Honestly.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
Making that song with my friend Tom Neville, we also did Boots and Boys.
Boots!
That was the literally like, oh, no, that's up boots?
There's a song called Boots and boys.
Oh, I was getting it.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
I was getting it mixed up.
We love boots and we love boys.
It's fine.
and boots and boy
You have a great bee trilogy
there with blah
So you got the bees covered
I really do like them
They sing well
You know and you don't have to be
You're not that plosive on the peas
It's blah
It's great
Are you clocking the plosives
The plosives?
Is that a word?
Like when you say
Nobody wants that on a microphone right
I know exactly
You need like a pop screen
Yeah you are clocking it
You are clocking it
Of course
I got almost perfect score
On the SATs
I was going to go to
Columbia University. I've always wanted
to be a cult leader. Why do you think I
love people dressing like me?
Of course I clacked the bees and the peas.
Oh my God.
This is an ACT legend. You're an SAT
legend. SAT I got perfect on math.
You did. I got perfect on math. Of course.
I mean, but like
for you
to go from
for you to go from
I was going to go to Columbia to I've wanted to be a
cult leader. What's in between?
Like, not much.
I think I still kind of want to go back to divinity school.
Let me take you one.
I'll try.
Take us.
I always liked being in community and like trying to understand why we do what we do.
So my mom, I'd be like, mom, I want to go to church.
And she's like, whose child are you?
But so I'm in Tennessee and she takes me from church to church.
But then it would always get to the point where they're like, but you can't be gay.
And I was like, well, it's not for me then.
Yeah.
And so then in high school, I was like,
Like, if I ever get to be a pop star, I'm going to make a place, a community for people like me that like want to be a part of community and sing bigger and like, but like can be gay as fuck.
Yes.
And like super authentic and like just be.
An animal as you, as it were.
Yes.
I feel like there was so much around that time too, like in pop music that was like, hey, you can be free.
You know what I mean?
It was like it was you, it was Gaga.
It was Beyonce.
It was like we were in college at the time
and I remember all this music
is coming out. I remember we had elected
Obama and we were in New York
for the first time and it felt like
like we were discovering
who we were and the music was like
go out and do that. Yes.
It was like an encouragement. Would you guys meet each other?
We met so this is what we wanted to tell you
to your face. Tell me. Yes. You loom. You loom.
You loom. Your lore. Oh, I have chills. So Matt and I,
meeting college.
And then we finally start
hanging out when we're,
he's in the sketch group,
I'm in the improv group at NYU.
And then we would just all like hang out
at these after parties that like
our friend Jenny would throw at her house
and the playlist would cycle through
but like any time
it hit TikTok, blow
fucking like anything off of your love is my drug.
Your love is my drug.
Anything off of animal and cannibal.
We were just like, let's fucking go.
Like it was how we like,
it was how like the ice melted between
Because we were like, who is this?
They were sort of like,
they were like, you're gay, be friends.
And we were like, we resent each other now
because of this.
And then like one of your songs would come on
and be like, I'm still hung over you.
Like, truly.
Like, but there was like so much joy in your music
and like so much of it was so cathartic.
And it really is.
It's like, I remember, well, you played Webster Hall.
Like, this is when we were there.
I saw you then.
And then fast forward to all the years later,
I just told you that I saw your freedom show.
You're like, I'm back show at WeHo Pride a couple years ago.
And probably a lot of people there have those same feelings.
I mean, that's why they're dressed up as you.
That's why they're living like, they're living a Kesha lifestyle in that moment because
you officially have become like a touchstone.
Oh my God.
That makes me like almost.
I'm not going to cry.
But like I could possibly because that's like all I ever wanted to do.
was just make people feel safe and good in themselves.
Because I feel like when you do this,
I've kind of, with myself,
I realized I maybe didn't have that growing up.
So I wanted to create what I wish existed for me growing up.
And it was like a loving community
where I could just be authentic
and didn't have to pretend to be normal, like normal.
Yeah.
And then I played my show last night at Jones Beach,
like sold out.
And I'm like looking out
And I
I'm like we did it
Yeah we did it like we found each other
Like we're all vibrating at a level
Where we just want to be our authentic selves
And like have it be okay
And we made it and that feels really good
That's course it does
I mean you basically are a cult leader
In that way than what you're describing
But can I can I propose to you the missing piece?
Yes I'm convinced you should open a grocery store
Deal like you should open the
Kesha grocery store and then people will like buy the things if you want to sell like artisanal
like olive oil olive oil.
It's sprouts but Kesha.
If it's a Keshe's olive oil.
If you have like one item that's like the smoothie for heroin or whatever.
Yeah.
And then you just stock it with like your other favorites at the grocery store.
People would be like, well, I went to the Kesha store.
Okay.
I actually have been thinking about trying to get Kesha flavored ramen.
Like this, I think about this, like 7-Eleven Keshit edition.
Like Japanese 7-Eleven.
Oh, I love a Japanese-Ben.
But like, what's the ramen?
Tell us.
Well, what it would taste like.
Let's put some, like, pop rocks in that rock.
Yes.
Make it sparkle a little bit.
Wow.
I don't know.
Maybe it's blue.
Maybe it's blue.
I don't know.
Blue-Rossy.
Like, this is like, maybe it's blue.
Maybe it's blue.
You just need an adjective and a noun.
And then it's gonna a blue ramen hot ice cream whatever you know what I mean
Just let's party do you know about the high ice cream I've tell me about the Tarbank's hot ice cream
Okay this is what I heard about but I don't get it it's I
To my knowledge it's like it's like a chocolate shake or it's like it's like it's like a dairy drink and it's warm and it's it's a hot chocolate
It's a it's a hot it's a thick hot chocolate hot hot I'm into it I mean I don't I just think whatever you make should have okay
not, oh no, do the pop rocks in ramen or do pop rocks in anything else.
Like, I just love pop rocks.
Like, what are they?
I don't know.
Did they ever find out what they were?
I don't think I, like, want to know.
Because it's still...
I don't want to know.
Wow.
Don't ruin it.
Sometimes we have, like, things just laying around, like a bottle of champagne or something.
If we'd had pop rocks, this would be an episode where we all did pop rocks right now.
Weep, a hundred percent.
But I don't think it's something you can just get in New York.
Cash a flavored pop rocks.
Yeah, there you go.
Maybe we start there.
Grocery store is not a bad idea.
To be honest, I was kind of thinking about like a vintage store,
but the grocery store sounds maybe more fun.
Or could I sell my old shirts and cash-flavored pop rocks?
I think this is, it's a one-stop shop for all.
I love that.
Your vintage store is something that would do numbers, though.
I have so much shit, you guys.
I bet you do.
I bet you do.
I am a hort.
Wait, I'm going to ask you a personal question.
Go ahead.
Because that was your, you and your mom's house in the simple life, right?
Oh, yeah.
Gorgeous house.
Like, absolutely, like, whatever, like, is in that, like, like, the, the heirloom pieces,
if you want to part with them would, would sell very well.
Oh, I literally, I just sold my house, 7,000 square feet of shirts.
There's so many clothes, but I can't, like, I can't just, like,
they have to go to someone who understands that they're very special treasures.
This is not, these aren't just garments.
They're treasures.
So what do you do?
Do you find another place where like you can put all that stuff or do you archive?
You hoard.
You hoard.
You hang on to it.
I shouldn't even say the word archive.
It's hoarding.
Let's just be real.
It goes into like the storage unit or something.
Sure does.
Really?
Mm-hmm.
But the thing about like the cool vintage stuff is you can never get rid of it.
No.
Like a vintage Dior cape from the 70s with like,
embroidered pink flowers
that I bought in London
when I was making it with that weird
tiny man
Yeah
How am I supposed to get rid of that?
And the thing about it is you have a story
And a place, like it's bespoke
In so many different ways
It is holding so much energy
Which is making me a hoarder
Because I can't get rid of it
Yeah, no, and nor should you.
Unless you open the store, which I think
If you do vintage, it's like
You're just worried about one lane
If you pair it with a grocery store
And I like this.
I think you could really cycle through some inventory.
Okay, done.
I just, I'm, I think I'm honestly onto something.
No, I dead ass to you.
I've been thinking about, we should chat.
Because I've been thinking about this.
I'm like culturally and almost like as its own standalone art piece.
Like if you took a 7-Eleven and branded, I actually was thinking about doing this,
but like you take pieces of my wigs.
Yes.
And you sell them like in a 7-Eleven and like at the cash register.
I froze my eggs and maybe like
for a very high ticket price.
Buy your eggs.
Just maybe one.
Yeah.
I'm keeping the rest.
But maybe one.
I mean, honestly,
there was someone out there who will buy anything.
Oh,
I believe it.
And I'm like kind of curious.
I'm sure you've received some letters in your day.
Fan mail.
Just think about it.
Just talk about the wig piece again.
Where does the wig?
Someone,
your wig pieces are for sale and then you go to the cast register and that's where the eggs.
It worked out all the kings yet, okay?
You brought up a grocery store.
I thought about ramen.
We got talking about pop rocks.
And now we're here, and I'm telling you my innermost secrets.
I haven't really worked at all yet.
No, I'm sorry.
We just know whatever it is, it's going to be great.
It's going to be great.
Well, before we started, I, just to, like, bring back a religion up again.
You were talking, and right before we started, I was saying to you, we had just watched the music
video for Raising Hell, which is one of my favorite videos of yours.
So good.
Was that you wanting to, because it's set, obviously, in like, a very evangelist.
you know, environment and you sort of, you know, breaking free of that.
Was that you wanting to respond to what you experienced earlier in your life,
trying to make it work and then just running up?
I think I just like, I don't want to go to heaven without raising hell.
And I have always had this almost like a nihilism in me because I have had multiple people.
This is true.
At this point tell me this is my last incarnated life as a human.
Whoa.
Which, like, depending on what anybody believes, like, I've been around lots of times.
I'm triple Pisces, so it's like...
Whoa.
Double Pisces Cancer Moon.
No, literally.
Wait, what's your son?
So I'm Pisces son.
Pice's rising.
March 5th.
Shut up.
I'm the first.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, we're right here.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
What are you?
Scorpio.
Another water sign.
Spicy.
A little sexy.
But then my other, the rest of my time.
chart is kind of all over the place. Not
not as watery as I'd like.
Sorry to cut you off. You were in your
flow as as we are as water signs.
Don't remember, but it was great.
Okay. I loved it. It was a good for you. The man,
the people telling you over time that this is your last
reaction. So, oh, but so this whole time, I've been
like, I love
like anything spiritual, anything
witchy, anything supernatural.
I love a ghost. I love a bigfoot.
I love a hologram. Is this dimension?
all of that, like quantum consciousness, let's go.
Yes.
But I also am like, we kind of have to be a little ratchet.
Yeah.
Yeah, we can't take it too seriously.
Like, you know?
Let's break it down.
If this is your last hurrah, literally.
I have fucked the world tattooed on me twice.
Twice.
Where are?
Well, one here.
Fuck the world.
Next to the dead fish I got with Big Frida on the Kesha Cruz.
Gorgeous.
I know.
You have a matching tattoo with Big Frida?
Yes, and Bob the drug queen.
Oh, my God.
We had talk about a fun time.
Let me tell you what, the Kesha crews.
There's three of you.
The Kesha Cruz.
Why did we miss the Kesha Cruz?
Honestly, that was a major fuck-up.
Wait, where did you guys pour?
We twirled around in the sea between here and like the Bahamas.
Yeah.
And just, it was like absolute mayhem.
Of course.
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I'm dating the world.
Dating the world.
I'm dating the whole wide world.
Good.
And I'm ready to be pulled in any direction because it's my last life.
So.
Yeah.
So different people.
Like who are these like astrologers, psychics?
Yeah.
Okay.
And you, so they have apropos, obviously, of one another.
So as you know, this is going to be your last life.
Yes.
I have had multiple people on totally separate, not connected, years apart, recently again.
Yeah.
What have they told you or have you been able to contextualize the past lives?
The past lives.
What do you know about them?
I definitely have been a man and a woman in my past lives.
I think, how do I say this without sounding?
I don't really care.
Don't know.
But like, I do feel like, I do feel like we are all like consciousness,
just in our own little separate.
Bag.
Skin suits.
You know?
And in that way, like in my shows,
and we're all dressed up the same,
like not to be a cult leader that likes it too much,
but it does feel really natural because we are all one.
Yes.
And I like reflecting that.
And I love when people reflect that at me, if that makes any sense.
It does.
I think this is the thing about you is that now a lot of the narrative around pop artists
is that they are on this journey to find their authentic selves, right?
It's like, this is my most authentic album to me.
And I don't think you ever had to go through that because I think you've always been completely self-assured.
And now what's incredible, and I think what makes you, like, ahead of everybody is that, like, you are telling the story of making music on your own terms.
But you were always you when you were making it before that.
Totally.
I think it's just being fully sovereign and really in control.
And to be honest with you, finally in a position where I can give myself that credit.
Because as a woman who bursts onto the scene in 2008, 2008, 2000.
2009, 2010.
Like, it was not,
I was always very authentic,
but there was a lot of,
like it was a confusing time
to be a woman in pop culture
in terms of like just walking around
being super confident in oneself.
Because media was like really loved
to reflect all the ways I did not actually
in fact deserve to be famous
or on a magazine
or I'm like,
you're not pretty enough, you're not talented enough.
I was always like not something enough.
And so I did have a period of time
where I was like, wow, maybe all of this success
is really everybody else, like honestly.
And then the past two and a half years
when I actually got the rights back to my voice
and I started my record label and I went on this tour
and literally I've designed everything like,
I've woven the songs together and I have like,
cried with my albums.
Like it has been a spiritual process putting together
the show that I'm currently touring.
And to be able to look out and be like,
no wait, maybe, maybe it was me.
It was you.
But I didn't know it until literally the past,
I don't know, two years.
And it took me getting that freedom
and sovereignty for me to give myself any amount of credit.
Yeah.
Which is just my journey.
I don't know if that's,
that's just being an artist in the world or being a woman in the world or what it is.
But I always kind of gave away the credit to other people.
Wow.
That makes sense because so much of your work has been like extracted by other people.
Totally.
You know what I mean?
And exploited.
Yeah.
And that experience has made me so strong, though.
And once I got my first.
freedom, which like the process of like being an artist at a very young age signing for those who don't know.
Like I signed a deal at 18.
And then I got the rights to my voice and IP to myself on March 6, 24 for the first time in my adult life.
But that experience has actually made me so strong and so much appreciation and protection for myself.
so but it took a lot of like healing to get to this point where now I'm actually quite grateful
to know how strong I am yeah like what is like what does um it mean for you emotionally I guess
like that you have the rights to everything like what does that mean emotionally for you to like
look back on like the like the first few albums well it was it's such it's like confusing a little bit
yeah yeah because I didn't have the rights to something that
It comes from inside of my body.
It's like how we as humans express ourselves.
You can't really touch it.
You can't really, yeah.
Very odd.
And growing up being so spiritual,
it's just always kind of messed with my head,
the spiritual side of it.
Like it didn't make sense to not have the rights to one's self.
Right.
So I think it's looking back,
I have so much love for my younger self.
Like I see pictures of myself,
with like, oh my God, some of these outfit choices.
Some of the outfit choices.
They're wearing them.
They're wearing that girl.
We love that girl.
Oh my God, she was amazing.
Like, she was so fearless.
Yes.
She was so fearless.
People tell me stories about the way, like my friend Bob Ezrin,
who is a producer that worked on Pink Floyd the Wall,
iconic album.
He came into my show a couple nights ago,
and he's like, do you remember
when he was doing a panel with Lou Reed,
I also icon.
And somebody heckled him.
And apparently I stood up and said,
get the fuck out of here.
Yes.
Yes.
And I was like,
damn.
And I was like 20.
Yeah.
So country.
So conti.
But in 30 year old,
you probably hedges because you know,
like there's an awareness of what might come as a result.
But we hope to be the person that can just stand up and speak truth to power.
Yes.
And you've had this insane experience where it's not just you going through it,
but then it becomes like a true movement.
in and that is, it's really empowering, but it's also, I would imagine, a little bit dysmorphic,
because you're like, how did it become this to begin with, which makes every emotion very
confusing?
I think that speaking back to like, we all reflect each other's experiences. And as an artist and as a
woman, I don't think that I'm alone in what I've experienced. No. And I'm sorry that others have
experienced the negative things that I can relate to. Like, that does.
doesn't make me feel good.
Right.
But we have each other and that's what gives us all courage
is when people can stand up and say,
like, I'm not alone, you're not alone.
And that's what actually produces social change.
Is enough people getting fed up
with the way a system is working.
Yeah.
So, but I look back at my younger self
and I'm like, what a badass?
Like I could not listen to the album Warrior.
Wow.
for a long time.
And are you back to listening to it now?
I'm like obsessed with my girl now.
Yeah, you should be.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Wherever you are, bitch.
And like, just like some of those songs like Warrior, I'm singing about the same shit.
I talk about every night in my show.
I'm like, why was I so scared to listen to this girl was just like young and going through shit and being a badass and standing up for her community?
Yeah.
And she's been doing it the whole day.
damn time.
Like, what are you so scared of?
Is crazy kids on Warrior?
Yes.
Love crazy kids.
That one too.
Yeah.
I had to like, I had to do healing work with her.
Wow.
Like, there were emotions that would come up when I would listen to certain songs.
Yeah.
Because of my own personal experiences.
Sure, sure.
And so then I couldn't really face them publicly because it felt really weird to like play a song.
It just like hurt.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But the way you circumvented, and it wasn't even circumvention,
I think you were very direct about it in the way that you could have been.
But like with gag order, it's like, that's genius.
I hope you understand that.
Like you were singing about the thing that you weren't allowed to sing about,
but you made it the whole theme of the album.
Like it's like I don't think any artist has really had to like think of it that
or has been able to like really be so declarative and mature about like,
I hope you love that girl too.
Oh my God.
She?
Ooh.
Yeah.
She is amazing.
She is amazing.
Oh my God.
That was so like meta and like quite frankly very.
It was a weird time.
Yeah.
Making an album about a thing.
I couldn't talk about it while getting ready to go deal with that on a world stage.
Like it was so almost meta.
Yes.
And it felt so beautiful to have this collaborator.
Yeah.
fucking Rick Rubin.
Oh my God.
To be like,
like Jedi,
I'm going to go into this with you.
What a beautiful time.
And that
performed so badly.
That album performed on the charts
so poorly
that it led to my freedom.
Tell me what that spiritual
arc of the story is.
You never know what your failures
actually what like the
universe is doing for you.
Yeah.
You really don't know what your story is doing for you.
Like at the time, I was like, that's so interesting.
Like every album I'd put up before that, I'd been like a top 10.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then this came out and I was like, oh, damn.
Like, I didn't think everyone would like it as much as TikTok, but like really big
difference.
Yeah.
But I always loved the album and I loved the process of making it.
Which makes it worth it.
Oh, I was like, if people don't get it, they're wrong.
Quite frankly.
Or that's fine.
Or that's fine.
It's so good
Yeah
But like it's it's different with like rainbow though
Because that was also similarly
Like you were saying about the thing that you couldn't sing about
But it was performing well and I fucking love that album
I loved that one too
She was just like
She was like a little rainbow
Don't let the bastards get
Don't let the bastards get you down
Just like the Rick Rubin of it all
I feel like a lot of artists have talked about
Finding new parts of their voice with him
Like Adele has talked about like when she worked with him
on 30.
Yeah, and on 21, even way, way back.
Oh, really?
No, she could hit the notes in,
not set far down to the rain,
rolling in the deep.
And all of a sudden, like, his encouragement,
just like talking about,
did he do praying?
No, that was Ryan Lewis.
Yeah.
That was Ryan Lewis.
He maybe did, go ahead, finish your story.
Well, I'm just saying, like,
just you, because you were sort of synonymous
with a very pop,
sound and like the sing talking that you were doing.
But then to hear you really sing and use your voice,
I was just wondering,
because you always were,
but then suddenly there was that moment in praying
where there's that cathartic scream,
like that primal note that you were doing,
which I think got you that Grammy nomination,
which had to feel good to finally get like that from them.
Totally.
But just discovering and like traversing everything you had to go through
and finding, like,
so much.
more in your vocal. I wonder about that process. Well, that was, and I do think everything is like,
not to sound too much like a hippie, but everything is energy. And, and when you have, I'll speak for
myself, when I was coming from a place that was not really encouraging me to be in my power
and to take credit for my wins. And then to be in a room with Ryan Lewis, who was like,
like, you're amazing.
You can hit the note.
You can do it.
What that did for my vocal range,
I think it jumped like two octaves,
like just what being around the right kind of person.
Wow, that's really interesting.
And I've taken that on with the rest of my life
since that moment.
That changed my life because very lovingly,
I will not be around people that try to bring me down,
that try to feed negativity.
Like I have to be around people.
that want to love and support each other and see each other win.
I think who we surround ourselves with is really important.
Everything.
And should be giving you love and like really wanting to see you win.
It's really important.
And I learned that from that session.
Wow.
It felt like everyone who loves you and following you,
we all had an experience when you released that.
Me too.
It did feel very spiritual.
It was so spiritual.
And the song being called praying.
Like I'm sure that was an intentional thing.
It was like we're gonna release it in this moment and the best is seeing when when we see you live like people doing their version of it.
Oh my god, you should see the videos on my story right now.
Last night they were so loud like you can't even hear me singing.
I think it's very cathartic for a lot of people that come to my show, which like it's such an intense moment.
Yeah.
It's really fun.
Well, everyone is speaking to the person that that felt like.
the weight in their life.
Like everyone is speaking to that person,
whether it's like an ex or an ex boss or like a current situation.
Like I feel like that song does give permission.
I would say that's like a top three cash a song for me.
Really?
Yeah, absolutely.
Like it's just because of and now even more so now that you say that.
Oh, it was a really special time because I remember always thinking,
I can't do much, but I can sing.
And then after my first album came out and I, like, people were to sing, I couldn't actually sing.
And I was like, wait, wait, wait, I was just using, we were just having fun.
Yeah.
I can actually sing.
Yeah.
Yep, yep.
And then praying was, I feel like the first time that people were like, oh, damn, maybe she can sing a little bit.
Yes.
Well, and the singing thing is like, as someone who can't really sing that well.
Don't do that.
I'm like, I think it's overrated.
No, but I think with you, I think with you, like, so we, so Matt and I used to be in this
musical sketch group, which is, yes, exactly.
Dye, perfect timing.
Perfect timing.
We could have used some of that back then.
We could have used to, yes, I mean, you could hear that drop and smaller.
But I, but we, but like, so with all these comedy songs, whatever, like, we're, you know,
doing it.
And then, you know, we had this concert at Union Hall, this, like, tiny, wonderful, small
venue in Park Slope, but like, we were like, let's just sing, like, one song for real and like,
let's just sing the shit out of it.
Yeah.
There was nine of us, too.
Nine of us.
We were a big group.
I love that.
And we all were like, you know what?
Like, you know what is a great song that like maps lyrically onto this thing that is basically
built like a sketch is your love is my drug.
Just every, just lyrically, every line is genius.
I love that.
I used to teach, um, musical comedy writing, sketch comedy.
writing and because actually sketch comedy and pop music really walk hand in hand and
in order to show like a perfect pop song I would show we would listen to your love is my drug
and we would talk about how it how it maps and just like you know the first verse you're
introducing exploring an idea and the chorus will land the game and then the second verse like
explores that idea further you land the game harder and it's just like it was like again
formative and we had so much fun singing it
Nine people breaking up different parts of the song.
Oh my gosh.
Is there a video of this?
I love that.
There might be.
Stop.
We're not sharing it with you.
Stop.
If you open the grocery store, we'll show you the video.
Fine.
I'll open the grocery store.
You show us your pop rocks and we'll show you our pop's cover.
Do we all go?
So I got a question.
No, it's like one.
Actually, I think I had the bridge.
Oh, which part?
Do I make your heartbeat like a net a little eight drove.
Yeah, yeah.
I love your drug.
That was me.
Was everybody jealous?
That's the best part.
Yes.
It's the best part.
Are you kidding me?
I might have just been like, this is me.
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We have to ask you the question, Keshah.
The central question of our podcast, which is what was the culture that made you say culture is for me?
This is formative pop culture in any dimension that you can think of that you think looking back, that's when Keshah became Keshah.
Okay.
It's a couple things, that are right?
Yeah, that's great.
Okay.
So getting ready for school, I remember seeing the video for Drop It Like It's Hot.
and hearing that sound.
And I was like, you can just, that could be my job.
Yeah.
Making noises with my mouth that are like the sillier the better.
Yeah.
And then like joy ride.
I was like, you know, oh, whoa, whoa.
Like I literally took this to heart where I'm like, I can just make silly sounds.
Yeah.
And it can be iconic.
And I live my best life.
And then I also remember the first time.
I heard Will Smith.
Wow.
And I was like,
I'm, I thought,
well, I thought I was gay.
And then I was like, wait a minute.
He was everything.
What song?
Getting jigger with that.
Getting jiggy with it.
It was.
And welcome to Miami.
In Benito.
Miami.
He really did have bops.
It was really good.
Never forget.
Just the two of us.
We can make it.
That was,
I was like,
oh yeah,
you can like take an old.
old song and make it your, I was like, yeah, he taught us.
And he like didn't say bad word.
Yeah.
Which I really picked up.
But did that matter though when you were a kid who's, you know, you know, I guess not
sheltered, but you had a religious.
Oh, well, I was, I was like, I was, I was, she was trying it all.
Yeah.
It's my last life.
Just think about that.
I was just like blast off in all directions.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
He was like part of my awakening.
Yes.
Sexually.
Yeah.
He was hot.
When you tell a little bit of his
Wild Wild West,
I feel like I did stop the tape.
Oh my God.
I need to circle back to that.
This is back in the day
when any time a man was in a movie,
like, I remember Rosie O'Donnell
would ask the question.
She would have men on her show
and it's just so funny now.
But Mark Wahlberg came in
and they did an interview
and I'll never forget
the last question she asked
before they went to break
was she goes,
is there any honey shot?
Hiney shot.
And then he goes,
little hiney shot.
She goes, there you go,
there's a hiney shot.
And it was just like,
Rosie.
on like, heinie shot watch.
She was balancing the scales.
Like, back then, it was like...
She did it well.
The women were asked about their tits
and the men were...
Should have been asked about their asses.
Yeah, so she was like, you know,
we're going to ask about the men's butts,
Marky Mark.
Wait, was he the one with the dick in Boogie Nights?
Yes.
Prostatic dick.
Was it?
Yeah.
Are you sure?
Famous noted...
It was huge.
Oh, it was amazing.
If it was that big,
we would have known from the Calvin Klein ads.
for sure.
We would have known if he had an Anacond to do in the Calvin Klein ads that were famous and then Boogie Nights, that thing unfurled.
No.
It was.
Formative pop culture moment, you're asking.
Well, this one affected all of us.
Oh, yeah, clearly.
Wait, but I love that the takeaway from Dropout like it's hot is it can be silly.
I actually think, go with me here.
Yes.
But vibrating at silly goose level.
is like takes feeling very safe
and to feel very safe as a woman
or a queer person in this world.
Like you really have to cultivate a community
and a safe like container.
Yes, a cruise, if you will.
Yes, a cruise, a songwriting room.
It takes a cruise.
It takes a cruise.
Akesha Cruz.
We're going to have to bring it back after this.
I know.
I want to go now.
Amanda's going to be high.
You're making a profound point.
Oh, no, but basically, to really get into your, like, silly goose bullshit, you have to feel safe and comfy and, like, it can't, like, you can't be really scared and stressed.
Yeah.
So when I get, the sillier I get, that means the safer I feel.
Yes.
And I have noticed historically, that's the energy that my fans react to the most.
So the sillier I'm feeling, it's like the happier my fans are, but also the happier and safer I am, there's something magical in this.
Yeah.
So I try to like notice who I feel silly around.
Silly goose is a contagion.
It's a contagion is safe gander, is intelligent, is smart gander.
Yes.
You know what I mean?
I call it the gospel of the goose.
The Gospel of the Goose is the title of this episode.
I live for that.
The Gospel of the Goose.
And that, now we have a supermarket.
We have a cruise part two.
And we have an animated show.
Gospel of the Goose.
Let's do it.
Are we in business together now?
It's in development.
I'm not kidding.
Let's take it the fuck out.
Let's go.
It's a great time for the business.
Everyone's buying.
It's going to be an easy sell.
Maybe it would.
It might be.
Who wouldn't buy it?
I don't know.
We also heard, we also heard before you came in that you were a Beastie Boys fan.
Oh, like that was another pop culture moment for me.
Yes.
That reads.
I was like, I know because I was like, I can be a silly fucking goose.
Yes.
And I'm, yeah, I'm going to do that.
I feel like your DNA is fight for your right.
Honestly, you're 100% right.
Yes.
And the fact that I got to work with Rick Roo.
I was like just last lifetime goals.
What were his, like, you said he was like Jedi master?
Like what was he imparting?
I think it was to make great art, I feel like you have to be honest.
And I was going through what I was going through at the time,
which was a litigation, which was not fun.
And I really wanted, because my favorite thing in the world is to make people happy.
Literally, it's like, I want to vibrate at my highest level because I know it makes my fans happy.
Like, it's a beautiful relationship where literally they're the love of my life.
I do everything for them.
So I really wanted to just be like so happy and like pretend like I was feeling wonderful and everything was great.
During a very long, almost decade long litigation.
and I remember I made praying and rainbow
and it took like one Twitter comment.
I was like, we want fun, we want fun girl back.
And I was like, trust me, so do I.
Yeah.
Like I really do.
And so I really tried to like be that.
But like it wasn't maybe my most authentic vibration in that time,
even though I wanted it to be.
It just like wasn't really available.
And he came, like, entered.
heard the chat in a way that was like, it's all right.
Like you don't have to perform.
Like you don't have to try to sing.
You can just sing.
Like you don't have to try to be fun.
You can just be honest.
And it felt very much like having somebody
like walk into the dark corners of your mind with you
so you don't have to go by yourself.
And it felt really beautiful to look at things that were really hot.
Like some of those lyrics are gnarly on gag order.
By the way, I changed the way,
changed the title of that album to eat acid.
Yes, that's right, that's right.
Which I changed the title because in a lot of my healing work, I've realized that only now
looking back, did I realize that that album and that time, it was such an alchemizing moment
in my life for my spirituality, for the direction of where my life was going to go and for the
person I was going to become.
And so from this like very, very difficult time, it actually was like God's greatest psychedelic.
And I have so much gratitude and appreciation for this difficult thing because I lived through it.
And now I can hopefully help other people at my shows or I teach songwriting to veterans and kids.
Oh, wow, that's amazing.
Yeah, because I really think that having somebody to hold hands.
within look at the dark corners of your mind like that's what I want to do with the rest of my life.
That's really beautiful to know so many elements of your purpose. You know, like to know that I'm a
joy bringer and to know that I want to help people bring out the things that they are not facing.
Well, yeah, because when you have somebody to look at it with you, you kind of realize like,
oh, wait, I'm safe now. And I can make a piece of art out of that. Like, think about praying. Yeah. Yeah. It is the
craziest. I've chills
to think about last night. I'm dressed
up in a full
gold warrior outfit
that is designed to,
like it's inspired by the interior
of St. Peter's Basilica
in the Vatican,
Michelangelo, right?
And I come out on stage
with this backpack strapped
to my head in these very
cunty glasses. I look so cool.
And everyone
is screaming, praying,
10,000 people, if not more.
More.
And like, that all came from one day I walked in and I was like, I'm going through a really
hard thing and I don't know how to deal with it.
And my friend, Ryan Lewis, like, you can sing that high note and we're going to play
around for a couple hours and like, love you, believe in you.
So so much can come from just having somebody be kind to you and like, I'm going to look at,
I'm going to look at some stuff with you.
That might be really hard for you, but I'm going to do it with you.
but I'm going to do it with you.
Like that's so powerful.
And it can turn into,
God only knows what that can turn into.
Yeah.
But for me it turned into
I could process with my community
what I was dealing with.
Otherwise,
I don't know what I would have done
if I couldn't make art out of what I was going through.
That was a really hard time.
Yeah, that's brutal,
especially when it feels like
there's also that part of you,
I would imagine,
that's like not wanting to necessarily have more and more success,
but it's like once you know what you're capable of
and how many people you can reach,
to have that limited must be,
I mean, frustrating probably isn't even the word.
It's like you know you have a communal relationship here.
And to be cut off from that must feel,
again, it's just like a roadblock to your mission.
Yeah, and I just want to,
I just like kind of feel like I'm meant to be of like,
fucking silly goose service.
Yeah, silly goose service.
That's what pop.
Curious what you're like,
you love pop.
We love.
You love pop.
What's your favorite pop song of all time?
Of all time?
Oh my God,
that's so hard.
I'm gonna say...
I'm like up there.
It doesn't have you of all time.
Just like when you like.
I'm gonna say dancing on my own by Robin
is a generational moment.
I would say bad romance is a generational moment.
Oh my God.
For me, it was just like,
I just loved these big,
cathartic choruses.
Because you like to scream.
I love to scream.
And especially in my 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo when I was in high school,
like letting it rip because there was something so cathartic about pop.
What about for you?
All for you by Janet Jackson.
Soda Pop by Britney Spears.
Whoa, soda Pop.
My thing is like effervescent.
Wow, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like carbonate, like literally carbonated.
All for you is so like, it's just light.
and light.
It's bright and light.
Yeah, okay.
I like so see you more clearly now that I know that's your song.
Oh, I love that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I see you too.
Well, you know, I think we kind of present differently than what's our favorite thing.
Totally.
I don't present as light and, by the way.
I don't present.
And he is very much deeper than people.
I'm secretly really, um, I just love to sit in the room and go to the dark world.
My friends make fun of me.
They're like, oh, Matt's going to listen to ballads now.
It's just like.
I will bring the room down.
Like, when I met, when I met karaoke, I'll do foolish games by Jewel.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, that's who I am.
Oh, you have that moody.
So I just like, I like big emotion and I love like sad pop, sad big pop.
Sad big pop.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How do you find chandelier?
Love chandelier.
Yeah, that's like one of my favorites.
And I think my favorite of, um, is a live bike, see ya.
I'm a la
That one
I was like
That song was so
And then she goes
I'm a la
It's like crazy
I love someone just pushing it
Screaming
Screaming
So you're asking us if we're pop
People because it's like
How do we order to
I wanted to like see how you sparkle
What are yours?
You sparkle now
I feel like everybody hears
Like you
I tell the whole wide world
But the inside of me
Sounds like
Yeah you're right you're right
I will say
The first time I heard TikTok, the first time I heard it, I was like, wow, that's like,
that's like a very different.
I was like a little confused.
Second time I heard it, I was like, oh, that's forever.
I was like, the first time I heard it, I was like, I have to round my head around that one.
And then suddenly I was just like, this is a movement, not a moment.
Can I ask?
But like, is, I've always linked you and peaches together.
I love peaches.
I love peaches.
She's the best.
Like, I feel like Peaches and Beastie Boys makes toys.
sense to me for you.
Totally.
You know what I mean?
Just like it's, I'm not going to give a fuck.
Because both you and Peaches can fucking sing.
Peaches doesn't really sing as much as we would like her to.
Peaches sang the way we were on this podcast.
Okay.
Sorry, go ahead.
She sang the way we were.
Oh, stop.
So we went out to Berlin to do a show in Berlin and Peaches was our guest.
And we were like, talk.
She's so cool.
Yeah.
And we were just talking about like, you know, vocals we don't usually hear from her.
And she fully started singing Barbara.
Barbara.
And we were like.
do this.
It was really great.
Oh my God.
I used to go out to, so like, before TikTok.
Yes.
I used to go out to Pappy and Harriet's with like the homies.
And do you know in Joshua Tree?
Do you know this dive bar?
Okay, this is where I did my first photo shoot for the cover of animal.
It was at this dive bar in the middle of the desert in Joshua Tree.
It's like a biker bar.
and it's like where I first ate mushrooms.
I saw spaceships.
Like a lot has happened at this place.
It's amazing.
There's a picture of me like on a motorcycle with the glitter on the face.
Yes.
Like the first photo shoot I ever did for the cover was like there.
What's the point of the story?
Peaches or.
Peaches.
Yes.
Okay.
And there's like this whole crew of like very cool, very punk rock people.
that would always go out and like there were mushrooms happening you know it was a vibe it's in the
desert it was in the desert it was like a little trashy it was a little dangerous it was kind of crazy
but i grew up like in the same circles as peaches and i just always totally looked up to her
because she's so cool and i actually i don't know if you all know this but i was like a real life
writer punk rocker oh
like
like I've stuck it tattooed in my lip
stop is it still there
wow
that is clear as day
oh I love that I haven't looked in a hot minute
yeah okay
it's still there
I love that
but like so the video for TikTok
was filmed at this house
it was like right down the street from my house
my friend Jules was like I'll walk you home with my knife out
to make sure you get home safe
So sweet.
That TikTok video was shot actually at his house called The Drunk Tank.
And that's where like in the bridge of the TikTok video, if you watch,
and I'm like in this shirt and I'm like singing and, you know, you build me up,
you break me down.
And there's like glitter being thrown.
That was the drunk tank.
Wow.
And so this whole scene was like also very peaches scene adjacent.
Yes.
Yes.
Punk.
It was like truly.
Yeah.
Like you would sleep in a.
sleeping bag and find like dead animals at the bottom the next day like it was gross
like it was disgusting it was very real what kind of animals well a dirty tampon
sure stop that's they came alive perfect but like it was a wild time anyways are you saying that the animals
came because they smelled the tampon no you did though i'm trying to put it all
all together.
I want to take these mushrooms.
Me too.
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Sometimes it's a breakdown waiting to happen.
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This kid, Jafar Jackson, is as good as Rami Malik as Freddie Mercury, and it's
as good as Timothy Shamaulay as Bob Dylan.
And I say that with love and respect for both of those actors.
And I don't know how many Oscar nominations they give out.
I don't know if it's five, six for Best Actor.
150% this kid Jafar Jackson should absolutely positively get nominated for his portrayal as Michael Jackson.
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What did black music, food, and culture teach us about who we were becoming?
2016 was sort of that last era of monoculture, where we still consumed things in community.
From Beyonce and Rihanna.
Everybody wanted to be Beyonce.
I don't think we'll ever see another Rihanna.
To soul food, memory, identity, and the stories we carry through black culture.
What does it mean to be black and eat in America?
So we were this group of people.
who knew how to work the land, who knew how to live with the land.
We make it do what it do.
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I'm Munga shit together, and I'm back with a new season of the podcast, Skyline Drive.
This time I'm diving into a rabbit hole of peptides,
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obsession is all about and what it really means to live forever for all of us.
I learned about some rad science.
I can make a brain for you and then we can test what draw is the best for your brain, as opposed to his brain.
Here are some hard truths.
I would expect Indians to age faster, but I didn't.
not expected to be almost a four to five year acceleration.
And get myself into a world of trouble.
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That doesn't work.
Make it look more defined.
They say it works.
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Anyways.
Yeah.
Have you done acid a bunch?
No, I've never done acid.
Never?
Never.
You got to eat the acid.
I actually don't.
because you've been through it.
No, no, like I feel like I'm on acid all the time.
Your perception point.
The whole point of that album is my mom said don't eat acid.
And I said, okay.
Already did.
God gave me his acid.
Literally, don't eat it.
Don't need it.
I feel like I am a walking psychedelic trip as is.
This is actually perfect because we have friends who have, have, like, been the chaperone
during our trips, and they're like on our wavelength.
already because they're like right she's like I'm tripping the entire time our friend Mo I'm gonna tell
the story yeah so we we went upstate to um take acid for the first time we rented a house it was like
where was it it was like sort of outside the Hudson Valley it was outside Hudson Valley and so we go there
and it's like me bow two of our other friends and that we're gonna take it and then one who's just
gonna watch our friend Mo okay and we take the acid I have my breakthrough about half an hour in I don't
know maybe it just runs through my body we're all drawing crazy ass pictures I draw a fish woman
and I turned her around and I said
she's a work in progress like me
and then I guess we went out to the tree
do you remember this we were sitting under this tree
we're all sitting there we're all connecting
like we had just had a crying breakthrough with each other
early in the trip early in the trip
so we're sitting there and then Mo goes
okay everyone I just want to point something out
and we're not going to panic there is a brown recluse
there's a brown recluse right there next to us right there
and what we're going to do is it's and she goes
I don't want anyone to panic but it is the most poisonous spider
in North America.
Okay.
And so what we're going to do is we're going to thank the spider.
Oh.
And we're so dropped in that we're like,
sober as a bell.
That's a bell.
We're sitting there.
We're like, okay, we're not going to panic.
We're not.
And so we sit down and we thank the spider.
We're like, thank you so much for sparing us.
And for everything you're doing for the ecosystem.
And for being here, you are a gorgeous being.
Walk up, go over.
I think we like fought with big sticks.
Yeah.
Hours later, the trip ends.
Someone pulls out their phone finally.
Google's it.
Not a brown record.
Not a brown record.
Not native to the area.
Not poisonous.
Not a spider.
Not poisonous.
It was a dog.
It was our friend.
But it was just so funny because the person that wasn't on it was like having the most like.
Profound.
Mind splitting happening.
And so you're you're not even curious as to like what you would be like.
What do you think you think you would discover?
I think I already know.
Yeah.
You know.
I think I already know.
I think I already know.
I think I already know.
I get it.
I got it.
Like, dead ass.
Yeah.
Like, I want to have, I want to just relax.
You know, like, I want foot massages.
Someone take me to the Amon.
You know what I mean?
Any Amon.
I'll take you.
Deal.
Let's go.
I told the story yesterday.
I tripped at the Amon.
Stop.
Which Ammon Yara?
Which one's that one?
Chis and Kate goes.
Shut the fuck out.
And I tripped on the beach.
I do need to hang out with you guys more.
Yes.
I'll babysit you.
Babyset us.
I tripped on acid on the beach.
I kept ordering full-size pizzas.
And I ate them down.
Okay, the one acid trip I'm not there for,
there's pizza.
I'm like, I'm gonna-
It was heaven.
This sounds, honestly, this sounds like the life.
It was the life.
So anyway, we invited.
Or no, have the cruise go there.
To the Amman.
To the Amman.
We're taking a cruise to the Amman.
Yara.
Yes.
New so it's going to be expensive.
The tickets are a little
pricier. The tickets are a little pricey, but
you know, it's the pizza.
When you walked on the boat, there was someone
dressed as a narwhal hand
handing out condoms with my face on
them. Honestly, though. You think I need
acid? Oh my God. That's my
real life. Is Norwell your
favorite animal? I love them.
Yeah! I didn't see it was
on you. Oh, wow.
Really good. What about
them, their majesty?
Do you know that's a tooth coming out of their face?
Yes, I did know that.
And do you know that I collect teeth?
You do?
No.
I do.
Send them over.
Now you're really getting letters.
What's the teeth about?
Well, the teeth started when I became obsessed with my fans.
And then someone was like, my child lost their teeth.
And I was like, can I have them?
Because I want to make jewelry.
out of it.
And so then I made a necklace, an earring, and then a belt, and then a crown.
Yeah, a crown.
Oh, the crown's wild.
And then I just started collecting them because it kind of freaks out straight men.
Yeah.
Anything to keep them away.
Oh, my God.
I put it by the door.
Like vampires.
It's like garlic.
So I collect human teeth.
What do you think?
But so, yeah, and I just started putting it in my, like, yeah, all over my home.
Yeah.
Just in little, in a little incense burners, jars.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because it's crazy because
they are bone.
Well, and where are they?
You flush them down the toilet?
Like, where are they going?
I do have a question about that.
Where do parents put the teeth?
Give them to me.
Anyone here?
Give them to cash out.
She keeps them?
Okay, suddenly the whole room.
Everybody is like, I know exactly where my teeth are.
Can I have your teeth, please?
Can I actually have them and it's not a drill
and it's not a joke.
If everyone brings in their teeth, she's a pop star and she needs your teeth.
That's a real culture number eight.
She's a pop star and she needs your teeth.
If y'all want to bring in your teeth, we can put them in an envelope or something and send them off.
Y'all bring your own stamps.
Because I ain't going to get stamps.
No.
They might be heavy.
They might be heavy.
The teeth.
Okay, I think we have to do, I don't think so, honey.
It's time to transition into our classic iconic segment where we take a minute to sort of go.
off on something that's bugging us and we're going to go first okay okay we'll go first and then you'll go I have
something so we're recording this um the day app the two days after we were at the Tony Awards and I have a
a realization about someone who was there but not featured prominently enough wow yeah oh this will be
exciting this is Matt Rogers I don't think so honey no rosy O'Donnell coming out at the Tony's
you're right oh my God and I feel like Rosie O'Donnell was at the Tony's it wouldn't it have been an
amazing moment she now lives in Scotland she doesn't come
to America.
Ireland.
Yeah, yeah.
Same difference.
But you got to put Rosie O'Donnell on stage when you can because she was right about everything
from the beginning and we've done Rosie so dirty.
And it's just a countless story of the way we treat women.
But Rosie O'Donnell was a legend and an icon always.
And I feel like we were robbed of a moment where she comes out.
Obviously, whoever presented Best Musical, great.
But Rosie O'Donnell was the theater queen.
She did so much for Broadway theater when she had a.
show. She even had like off, off Broadway shows come and perform on the Rosie O'Donnell show.
And I just feel like she was in the building and it was either that she wasn't asked to present or maybe she didn't want to.
I would say if she wasn't asked, shame. And if she didn't want to, Rosie, I just would have loved to have seen it.
But I want you to make your own decisions. And my decision here today is say, I don't think so, honey, there was not enough Rosie O'Donnell at the Tony Awards.
And she was in the building. And that's one minute. I think she would have done it because she was doing the carpet.
I'm just saying. Why wasn't Rosie O'Donnell?
Rosie on stage.
That is so, you're so right.
And I was a Rosie O'Donnell kid.
I mean, love.
But I was on, I was playing a show that night, so I missed the drama.
There was no drama.
It was just that she was fully there and I was like, oh, she must be presenting and that'll be so
amazing to see.
Like, give her her moment.
Give her her moment.
Yeah, yeah.
Like she, people forget, she was in Greece on Broadway.
She was Marty in Greece.
Okay.
She was rapping to commercials for Kmart.
What?
This woman is an legend.
She was rapping.
Big K.
Like she was just like doing.
Like that's all I remember.
This is before Big K was ketamine.
Oh, you gay guys?
Is Kmart still exist?
No.
No, I don't think so.
That would be a good grocery store to like
Hostel takeover.
Kmart.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Vintage hostel.
Vintage hostel.
Blue ramen.
Pop rocks.
Get me your teeth.
Pasta.
Yeah.
Anyways,
I'm trying.
You're silly silly,
Goose Mill.
I'm so happy about
Gospel of the Goose.
I'm gonna use it now.
Many, many times.
This is huge.
You're Rick Rubining us.
I love that.
Are you part of the cult?
I'm part of the cult.
We were a part of the cult.
We are the crazy people.
I know one thing that's actual,
that it has been bothering me.
All right,
but this is your moment for it.
This is Bowen Yang's out
I don't think so honey.
His time starts now.
I don't think so honey,
everyone all of a sudden calling out,
quote unquote,
vocal fry.
No,
no,
Someone on TikTok probably taught someone like people this recently and now everyone's like on any
queer person or woman speaking, they're like, timid vocal fry.
It's fine.
Actually, when a guy does it, it's like authoritative.
And then when anyone else does it, it feels like it's fucking like it's, it's just another
weird femphobic thing, I feel.
And like, I don't know.
It's just a timbre.
You're not mad about vocal fry.
You're just mad that like, there's a way of speaking that's been popularized by like people who aren't guys.
You know what I mean?
Like, everyone sounds crazy if you think about it.
There's no such thing as a normal voice.
We all have crazy voices.
Mine's a little nasally.
Sure, there's a vocal fry in there somewhere.
But ultimately, I kind of speak normal sauce.
Five seconds.
I feel like I speak normal sauce.
Sure, there's a fax in every now and then.
But for the most part, I'm talking normal.
And that's one minute.
I'm just noticed
just clock it next time you like
are doing something like public
facing and we know this all too well
with the word like people who are like
you say like too much
it's the most boring thing to say
at this point and it does
feel like there's
it's coded and there's literally every other
language in the modern world
there are filler words and emphasis like
like and yeah exactly yeah right
I missed the drama with the vocal
fry me too actually
I think they hated it since, I mean, the dawn of my time in the world of public.
Right.
But I think there's been a resurgence in Vocal Frye sort of like...
Hatred.
Where I'm like, wait, why are we caring about this all of a sudden?
Also, it's not a big deal.
Is it a real thing?
Do we care?
I don't think we care.
I remember my choir teacher in high school being like, don't talk in Volk Fry.
I'm like, but why?
It's fun.
I'm choosing to.
I feel like I kind of made a career out of talking in Vocal Frye, to be honest.
You need a career in so many things.
Honestly.
All right. It's time.
Okay, I've never done this before.
This is Kesha's I don't think so, honey.
Her time starts now.
I don't think so, honey.
I don't really try to get mad about that much stuff.
But I'm going to be really mad about this.
I think that women should be able to be angry because if you don't like women being angry,
then you don't like women being horny.
because I think anger and horniness are literally like two sides of the same energetic coin.
So if you have that issue, then like...
30 seconds.
You're also quite scared of our power.
Oh, yeah.
And that's a bummer for you.
That emasculates you.
Wow.
And I do think that like also being jealous also means I'm horny.
It means I care.
Yes.
Yes.
So like a little jealousy never like you should be so lucky if I feel jealous.
Five seconds.
Honestly, you're welcome.
Yes.
The fucking end.
Yes.
And that's one.
Jealousy tells you something about yourself.
Absolutely.
But you're saying if you're jealous of someone that means you're horny for them?
For me.
No, if I'm jealous of the person that I'm hooking up with, if they're like flirting with somebody else, it's a good thing.
Yeah.
It means you really like them.
It means I care.
Yeah.
Enough.
Exactly.
And yeah, guys who are afraid of women being angry, it's like, well, like, you're not
going to see them squirt.
No, my God.
Where do you think the squirting comes from?
The root shocker.
The root fucking chakra in the red, bitches, yeah.
Peltic floor.
Peltic floor.
Motherfuckers.
Damn.
Peltic floor of doom.
Come see me.
I'll show you what's up.
Wow, you ate that.
Did I?
Yeah.
Okay, work.
I just went on like a, I don't know.
And what did I even do?
Rosie O'Donnell.
Oh, right.
I agree with myself from a minute ago.
I didn't know she wrapped for game art.
That is very kind of, I love that.
She did it all.
She did it all.
She wrapped for Kmart and all I could, the only bar I could come up with was Big K.
Well, this has been an incredible conversation.
I am so happy.
Me too.
We have been such huge fans of yours when we knew this was happening.
It just,
it's just one of those moments where, again, like, super formative for us.
And, like, I think so many people, like, that have gotten to know your music over the years,
you hold such a special place.
So we can't wait to see the Freedom Tour.
And I can't believe I missed it at Jones Beach.
Like, that would have been so fine.
It was crazy.
Oh, my God.
I'm an islander.
It was like a wall of humans.
It was crazy.
It's so great.
It's like crazy.
You guys have to come for real.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Stay tuned for the Cascha Cruz, perhaps.
The Kmart.
The Kmart.
Kmart.
Oh my God, wait, wait, there's pop rocks.
Oh my God, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, bring it.
How did you do this?
Oh, my God.
Wait, let's shoot them.
Oh, my God.
Let's shoot them.
All right.
Because you were over there waving them to me.
I thought when you were waving a phone.
I'm like, yes.
you know, you can get a picture.
I'm like, fucking relax.
I was like, we are the crazy people.
Wait, do we, wait, how do we, do we like race to shoot that?
Do we mix them in the Celsius?
Like, what are we doing?
All right.
Are we going to the face?
To the face, to the face.
Ready, and one, two, three, it's a race.
This is my stress.
This is a more.
It's crazy.
ASMR, look at this.
We end every episode with a song.
We are
We are
We are
Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb
My body's going
Dumb
Numb Numb
Nub
Will be forever
Yum
Yum yum
Yong
Yeah
You know
We are who are
I'm so sorry to all
The Missifonia
Girlies out there
Deal with that
Bye
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Julianna, maybe we can ask an actual human.
Yes, because I have questions.
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I'd say probably start bone smashing.
That doesn't work.
To make it look more defined.
They say it works.
I don't know.
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