Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "The Grammys"

Episode Date: March 9, 2016

Finally! Your culture experts are here! In the premiere episode of Las Culturistas, co-hosts Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang steer you straight into the heart of art, fashion, music, and film. They talk Grammys, MERCH, the rules of culture, and even do their famous segment “I Don’t Think So Honey!”LAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasCONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASThttp://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is the Las Culturistas podcast. I'm Matt Rogers. I'm Bowen Ying. And yes, we are Las Culturistas. What that means is we are your culture consultants. We are out here to improve culture. We're here to heighten culture. We're here to talk about the big cultural events that you see happening on your television screens on your laptops on your mobile phones

on so many we're in a three screen world yeah let me tell you let me tell you and look um matt put this very eloquently uh a few moments ago but off the off the record he said we're gonna attack culture yeah we're gonna improve culture yeah and we're gonna irrigate what we're going to attack culture. We're going to improve culture. And we're going to irrigate culture. This attack on your sentences right now, what this is, is Matt and Bowen's Lost Culture Recess podcast. What we're doing is we're talking about big things that you've seen, like the Grammys, the Oscars, the Super Bowl, maybe some debates happening, election season.

We're talking about big, big, big-ass events that you're all talking about. We're talking about them, big, big ass events that you're all talking about. We're talking about them too. And let me tell you, we've got notes. We've got notes, honey. We've got some feedback that is constructive and sometimes destructive. Oh, absolutely. Honey, we are not limiting this to events either.

I don't think so, honey. We are going after some cultural institutions. Yeah, like today, we're really coming for the music industry. Honey, the music industry is a monolith. And we're not afraid. I'm not afraid. To speak truth to power. I'm going to speak truth to power.

And in this case, I guess the power is every performer that dared step on that stage. Where was the Grammys? The Staples Center. The Staples Center. Okay, that's capitalism right there. Capitalist. You know what? I think it's getting a little confused i think big i think big music is in the hand is in the pocket of big staples absolutely a big office big staples is really what needs to come crashing down honey you're talking about a revolution yeah this is a

revolution i'm talking about a stapless america absolutely i'm talking we go totally paperless i'm talking about that was easy not even being a sentence that's acceptable in our in our society in our culture oh yeah i say i think that what we're trying to do here with this really movement but that is las culturistas is we're just trying to bring our expertise because we are cultural experts we are experts could we back that up not now not now you know what this isn't the time for credentials no this is the time for real actionable talk yes and look you know we're going to apply our very own signature um signature uh uh spin on new criticism new critique new crit new crit onto cultural relics we did start comment culture comment culture a lot of people think that american idol started comment

culture listen for those of you who don't know what that combination of words is comment culture is we're steeped in it today but this is just a label for it that is very apt because everyone thinks they have something to say yeah everyone thinks they have something to say. Yeah. Everyone thinks they have something to say. And you know what? They don't. They don't. But we do.

We do. What qualifies us to have something to say and be heard? Later. Later. Later. Later. But first, let me tell you something. Okay.

Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something, honey, about what we're dressed like right now. Honey. We are rocking some hats. Some brim hats. Some brim hats. Some brim hats. Okay. In the studio for your nerves.

And that's how you create culture. Okay. You take a big choice. Yes. And then you make it work. No one else makes these hats work. Lesson. But again.

Lesson 257 of Las Culturistas. You make a big choice. Make a big choice. You make it work. You make it work. Costume is culture it work costume is culture costume is culture absolutely guys i also want to point out that a big part of las culturistas and a big part of you know these cultural events we're talking about merch merch all right by the

end of every episode of las culturistas we're going to have an exclusive merchandise item item that you can purchase okay that's that's how you become a part of culture is is is commerce commerce e-commerce yes and listen we talked about staples earlier being you know this fount of capitalism we are doing this on a small business grassroots scale absolutely these items are only going to be um they're only going to be five yeah or less or less depending on the item thinking yeah because sometimes we let's just say sometimes we don't even know what the item is exactly right honest to god we don't know what this first piece of merch is but that's part of creating culture is part of creating merch absolutely and by the end of this podcast episode today, you will have a Grammy-related piece of merch

that you, you, the Last Culture Recess listener, can buy. Yes. And you can wear it. You could maybe listen to it. Who knows? We don't know. You can hold your beer in it if it's a koozie.

You know what? If it's a koozie, you could hold your beer in it. And guess what? It would keep your beer a little bit colder than it would have been. Exactly. It would insulate. Because that's what a koozie does. That's what a koozie you could hold your beer in it and guess what it would keep your beer a little bit colder than it would have been exactly it would it would insulate because that's what a koozie does that's what a koozie does that's what culture does for you is it's it's keeps it cold pragmatic keeps it cold honey lesson 257 keeps it cold keeps it cold and look culture koozie we have

to emphasize the limited inventory the limited stock these are collectible items just like any piece of culture it is rare honey yeah culture is rare and it's hard to come by i just want to say i just want to say you know i think a lot of people are going to be listening to this and saying is this negative no honey no no because we've earned our spot. How do we earn it? Later. Later. But we are speaking with authority here. Absolutely. And I want to say again, today's episode, we're coming for the music industry because we saw it in full display with the Grammy Awards. We've now had a few weeks to digest these Grammys.

To let it simmer. Honey, let's get into it. Let's get into it right now. So the main event, in every episode, we're going to be tackling a main event yes our main event the 58th annual grammy awards now bone will you tell us a little bit about what the grammy awards say they want to do what is it all about let's let's look up the grammy awards honey you're gonna look it up i'm gonna look it up i'm gonna pull up the the you know the mission yeah pull up the mission statement of the grammy awards because i want to know is it to honor excellence in music?

Because we could debate that. Well, get this, Matt. Okay, tell me. I'm reading off of this Wikipedia article. Thank you. A Grammy Award originally called a Gramophone Award. All right. Already, that's huge.

That's huge. You have to think of a good name for what you're giving out. America is not going to be able to say the word gramophone. No. Not in middle America they can't say gramophone. I don't know. We're already bastardizing art for the sake of what? Accessibility?

So you would say that you would prefer them to be called the gramophones. I would love to have some authenticity to this. I think we've lost that over the years. Okay guess i have a counterpoint here please i think grammy i think a it's easier to say and i do want everyone to be included in culture and i think b it reminds me of my grandmother culture oh well that's very sweet gives me warm thoughts did your grandmother like music she likes music she's with us oh i'm so sorry both of them are i don't know what she like actually i've never i never i don't know what her type of music that she likes is but i'm sure she enjoys it i think your grandmother is a cypher she's a zero

i would say she doesn't like hip-hop okay well she should open her mind because we're going to get to this later but there were some seminal hip-hop performances at the Grammys. Oh, yes. I mean, I'd say those were the highlights. Back-to-back hip-hop performances that I think were just astounding. Really incredible. So, you know, we got the Grammys, okay, a.k.a. the old term, the Grammophones.

Yes, shall I keep read on? Please. Okay. I want to know about what they're striving to do. Right. A Grammy is an accolade by the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences, NARAS, of the United States. So this is kind of localized to America, although there are many international artists that

are honored. Many international categories. Absolutely. To recognize outstanding achievement in the mainly English language music industry. Okay. Okay. Absolutely. To recognize outstanding achievement in the mainly English language music industry. Okay. Okay. Wow. The annual presentation ceremony features performances by prominent artists and the presentation of those awards that have a more popular interest. Okay. So it's, you know. So we are admitting here that it's a populist moment. That it's a populist contest. And I think that really reads.

I think so. I mean, people get up in arms about, well, you know what? Sometimes the awards are all over the place. Last year, you honored Beck over Beyonce. What do we think about that? He's a Scientologist. I can't get behind that. Yeah, you know what? He is.

That is true. And I cannot get behind that. I'm sorry. Well, I can't get behind that Beyonce didn't win Best Album. That album. Look at my king all dressed in red. I go, I go one day. Beyonce did give out Record of the Year to Bruno Mars' Uptown Funk, which, you know what? Sure, I'll give it that it was the Record of the Year. Yes.

But what was your Record of the Year? What was your favorite song of 2015? Oh my God. This is going to be... Mind you, the rules for the Grammys, which are... So everything... This is the eligibility period. Right, right, right.

September 30th, 2014 to September 29th, 2015 or something like that. The calendar year that ends on September 30th. Yes, yes, yes. So that year that ends on September 30th. Yes. Yes. Yes. So that's why it gets a little weird. Like hello by Adele, despite, you know,

being pretty much the song of 2015. Did not make the window. Yeah. So it'll be eligible next year. Are you asking me? What if in 2005, that later part of 2014 to 2015, what's the song?

What's the record of the year? Not of the nominees, just of any song. What was your favorite song of last year? I'll do both. I'll do both. So talk about the nominees what's the record of the year not of the nominees just of any song what was your favorite song i'll do both um i'll do both so talk about the nominees give the list of the nominees here are the nominees i'm presenting um yeah you're a beyonce right all right honey record of the year we have uptown funk really loved by d'angelo and the vanguard i love that d'angelo I don't know that song. It's really, really good. Thinking Out Loud, Ed Sheeran, Blank Space, Can't Feel My Face.

Yeah, I mean, for me, it's Blank Space. For me, it's Blank Space. What a great, what a perfect pop song. Doesn't that suck, though? That she, what? Of course we're going to say it's Blank Space. It was everywhere. It was everywhere, and honestly, like...

But I do love it. It it's whatever you think about taylor like i'm so hot i'm so back and forth on taylor same but that song is it's amazing fire my boyfriend doesn't like it he thinks it's basic i'm like how could you think this is basic on any level and he's a musician oh so it's like i don't think compositionally it's that basic i think content wise in terms of the lyrics i think it's pretty clever it's very clever she's got she's not even she's like she's always been a pretty decent lyricist but like this is something that she felt like she had to address like all these this persona that's been crafted around her what i like succeeded in like taking the conversation back.

Oh my God. She's what I like about it is it's a character based sketch, a sketch. It's a sketch. You know what I mean? It feels like a character. And actually Bowen and I, um,

uh, both write and perform sketch comedy here in New York. For those of us who don't know, we are artists. Um, we create culture, but I sometimes will teach, um teach workshops on, you know, sketch comedy and also sketch comedy music. Because Bowen and I are part of a musical sketch group called Pop Roulette.

We kind of fuse pop music, songwriting, and sketch comedy. We fuse culture. We fuse culture in that way. This is like, so basically what I'm saying is sometimes i want to show that song because it almost is like a comedy song because it do you know what i'm saying it has a point of view yeah and it's humorous like there and there's an unusual thing there's an unusual thing there's reversals and everything reversals there's a game there's a game there's a reserve there's a reversal there's a point of view it's all there what we're saying is like you know game and comedy is there's an unusual situation and it gets played and it gets heightened

and in that song she plays it's here i am like you can see me in my bathtub and my diamonds i'm beautiful but there's a turn crazy yeah and you still want to come back and get more of this. And there was an interview that she did where she said it was just so far from herself that she wanted to write a song based on that character. Yes. Which I think she very successfully did. And that song was everywhere. And when that album came out, everyone was talking about that song. It's a great song.

You weren't talking about any other song. It's such a good song. I listened to it, honestly, and this is no joke. A lot. Twice a day. Yeah. You too? Bowen and I, well, can I tell you, I've always been all about Wildest Dreams.

Wildest Dreams? It's on my lullaby playlist when I go to sleep. Yeah. I fantasize. I did want to, so, you know what? This actually is pretty good because album of the year did go to sleep yeah i fantasized i did want to so you know what this actually is pretty good because album of the year did go to taylor swift yes so that album is chock full that album is chock full people people getting all up in arms about uh to pimp a butterfly losing um yeah and i got yeah you talked about how it's populist you know what i mean like what do you expect and you gotta

play the game a little bit like i feel like you can't expect too much from this sure and we'll talk about kendrick later because he performed and it was unbelievable unbelievable but that album is and i and i said this to you earlier today good kid mad city like already like like on its own a masterpiece yeah and it came out so early like in his career and then like following that up with something that he could i never he could have gone one or two weeks he could have followed it up with something that was like a little more innocuous or like make a huge statement and that's what he did and i love that album too lateral move of quality i'd say same yeah, same quality-wise.

Good Kid, Mad City, unbelievable. To Pippa Waterfly, just as unbelievable. Just as unbelievable. But yeah, 1989. 1989. You know what also? Last year we talked about how Beyonce lost to Beck. Maybe last year they went with the artistic choice

and everyone was like, fuck. So now this year they went the commercial route. Also, it just seems like sometimes you can't fucking beat her. You know what I mean? Like she's everywhere. Like she's got the whole music industry machine behind her. Like I think she must make the most money for the industry.

I think so. You know what I mean? So I feel like there is that thing of like, it's why you nominate James Cameron at the Oscars. You know what I mean? Taylor Swift is like there is that thing of like, it's why you nominate James Cameron at the Oscars. You know what I mean? Taylor Swift is the James Cameron of the music industry. It feels that way. Absolutely.

It feels that way. Absolutely. So we got 1989 winning album of the year, and she opened up the show. She sang Out of the Woods. And the girl does not know how to move. No. Her limbs are all over the place.

Heavy, heavy feet. Heavy feet. Girl probably drives quick. That Anna Wintour bob is not working for her. She's too big on those glittery catsuits. I'm missing the hair that she had on the Red album. Straight. That's straight.

Straw-colored hair. Hair with the bangs. Yeah. And I like the way she did her hair in the We Are Never Getting back together video where she was like i'm a fucking cute girl i'm like i just thought like i want more of that sure more fun more fun listen you know what she very she really is nailing this 1989 thing we're you know what we're not going to talk about any male artists here because you know they're they've they've earned the respect to not no to to not we only criticize women women um we worship we worship really that's what this is because bowen and i at the end of the day are going to shell out almost 300 to go see taylor taylor swift we made a split decision impulse buy but i don't regret it well you were so but we based we we

say the night before you know there is the taylor stuff concert tomorrow we could go are we gonna go we went to bed saying let's sleep on it we wake up in the morning i think we both rolled over to our phone we were like we're gonna go we're gonna go and listen well the thing that happened the night prior was i was pulling up all these Instagram videos of people who were at the concert. And I was like, this looks really, really fun. And so then, you know, we just we slept on it. And then thank God we slept.

And I was like, we're going to do it. And then this is this is a fun story. And then we take an Uber from Matt's apartment. Well, we have the best day before that, too. We're fucking drinking at like the place where I work,oklyn oh that was so fun cocktails like taking instagram singing along to the music getting into it like then we decide we're gonna call an uber which we think will be 40 bucks we think it'll be 40 bucks we're like you know what it's it's jersey it's not too far city field no not city field uh met life met life yeah our driver picks us up he decides to drive

and maybe this is what the apps told him he decides to drive through the verizono bridge into staten island we drive through the beautiful suburbs of staten island see it all see it all for about a full hour and then we get we get into jersey and we get stuck in traffic leading up to met life because of course everyone's going in the tri-state area. And then, um, I'm girding my loins for what the, the risk,

the, what the, what the fare is going to be. I don't get a receipt email until the day after. Cause it honestly had a compute probably. It was like, well, this is long as fuck.

Yep. And so then, um, guys, uh, well, for the sake of transparency, it was $180. It was insane. It was insane. We, I mean, if you, okay, so the tickets were what, $220?

Joe, our engineer Joe's laughing. Our producer and engineer Joe's laughing. It's crazy. It's insane. It's stupid. So stupid. So I kept saying to Bowen, like, do you regret it yet? Do you regret it yet?

He's like, no. And then like post the concert, you will regret it. I was regretting. I think now looking back, I don't regret it. Do you? I mean, I think it's done a number on my credit card debt. Oh, okay. So there you go.

This is, culture is candid. Candid culture. Lesson 567. Culture is this is culture is candid candid lesson lesson 567 culture is candid culture is candid culture doesn't hide i'm not gonna hide no so we're saying what we're no i'm not gonna hide good i'll reveal some truths on here please we have to get there we'll get there okay and then and then real quickly so what i thought what my favorite record of the year was that was not oh yeah please run away with me carly yeah probably probably if i'm oh man now i'm maybe that might be mine too while the streams is pretty up

there for me i think blank space deserved to take home that award but then again it's like you're gonna give her everything no carly ray was snubbed if we're gonna talk about snubs we don't really have we didn't we didn't build in a moment to talk about snubs today but look i mean we can talk about the one big snub which is carly ray jefferson emotion that's an amazing pop album it just is you know what she did she took a very writerly approach to this and just like purged out 200 songs yeah nailed it and then was like, you know what? I'm going to cherry pick.

I'm going to pick the best ones. And that's how you edit. That's how you write. Yeah. I have a good one actually from what might be my favorite song of the year. Go. I was always happy when this came on. Love me like you do.

Okay. I really liked that song. Sure. Like I just pictured myself like spinning around. Like, you know, that Faith Hill song breathe. I can hear you

breathe the music video yeah which was her like on that like desert love was that that she was on i would love to read that treatment i picture myself spinning around on that in that dressing oh my god what a great song i love that it's a good song and it was in 50 shades of gray which made that movie sort of tolerable in that insane plane moment. The helicopter moment? You and I saw that together. Was that the helicopter moment where they played that song?

Yes. Okay. They're in flight in two parts of that movie. Yes. There's the helicopter part, which is like too long, and then they randomly go fly planes. Where do they fly to?

They fly around. Oh, okay. They just go to... He's like, come on. Really quickly, this is this is okay you know what this is a fun story matt and i saw 50 shades of gray the day it came out valentine's day 2015 with our pal and future guest of the show anna dresden with anna dresden um the three of us i think we're all single at the time and then we went to go see this on valentine's day with in

a packed movie theater and then we thank god we were in a theater that was willing to laugh because we just laughed at everything and it was just so funny and so cheesy and then at one point about an hour and a half into the film we hear from the middle section of the theater daddy i want to go to the bathroom and the entire theater was this beautiful cathartic communal moment of everyone just gasping and going there's a kid in there we couldn't believe and it was honestly like it a scene had just finished that was like a humiliating sex like she was like dakota johnson gets whipped yes, she gets fucked up in a scene. She gets flogged. It's like the movie doesn't

skirt around it. The movie's about that. It's an R-rated film that this man, later on, I went to the bathroom after the movie got out. It was a man brought his child to Fifty Shades of Grey on Valentine's Day. Well, then, Anna brought up a good point.

She said, well't get a sitter. Well, I mean, the thing is, he wants to go see the movie. He's trying to go see it. You know, we don't know what it's like to be. Maybe he's a single parent. Maybe he couldn't get someone to watch the kid. And I felt a little bad about it. And then I was like, no, you don't bring your kids to 50 Shades of Grey.

It's a sacrifice you make. If you're a single parent, let's say, for argument's for argument's sake he's a single parent do anything else with your kid i would say yeah it's valentine's day for them too i would say let's not scar them let's not yeah they can't possibly grasp the sexual situation their head with unimaginable questions sexual cruelty oh my god it was out of control it's hard like like it's hard enough explaining bdsm to like the lay person i don't get it okay well then i need it understood unexplained to me i don't know me neither i couldn't explain to you it's i can't this this will be like the blind leading leading the blind anyway maybe maybe he maybe he really liked the song too sure well let's let's get back into the Grammys.

Okay. So basically, that was my record of the year. We're talking about how maybe Teller deserved it. She did come out and she performed Out of the Woods in the beginning. And of course, she had a very first thought Woods in the background. Two on the Nose. You know what I say about that music video? That's going to be used as a teaching tool for being two on the nose.

So anyway. She's very hit and miss with her music videos, I feel. Because can I tell you, Blank Space, unbelievable music video. Masterpiece. Wildest Dreams, I love. I know it attracted a share of criticism. I don't think that criticism is that fair, to be honest. Okay.

Because I think it was depicting a 1950s movie set where you wouldn't have a lot of sure i mean i think you know like sure for the sake of it being now and we all know it's taking place now have like you cast minorities like you just yeah yeah but i think that might have been a case of people looking looking a little too hard to be angry about something okay i do like that music video it's a good video. You know what? Interesting thing. All these videos you've just named,

the same director, Joseph Kahn. He's really good. He worked on a lot of... Britney vids? He works on a lot of... He is someone who, when a star is in their imperial phase, they get a lot of their music videos directed by joseph khan kelly back in the day a lot of joseph khan videos which ones already gone um a couple other ones too

i think maybe like no since you've been gone doesn't sound right he he might have directed miss independent okay remember the house party house party? I'm not familiar. Oh, gosh. So I'm definitely going to be the authority here on Kelly Clarkson. Yes. By the way, winner of two Grammy nominations last night. Winner of two Grammy nominations. Yeah, I would like to frame it in a positive way.

She won the nominee. Okay. She is a three-time Grammy winner. In fact, here's a little factoid. She is the only artist to win Best Pop Vocal Album twice. Wow. Is that true? Male and female?

She's the only artist to win that award twice. She won it for Breakaway and she won it for Stronger. And she was up again for this year at Piece by Piece upset on social media that Taylor Swift would win a pop vocal album award when there's people like Kelly Clarkson and Florence Welch nominated. But basically what it says for pop vocal album is it's an award for the best album that is 51% or more with vocals. With vocals. So it's not necessarily like this person gave the best vocal performance on their album. It's to separate vocal albums from instrumental albums. Isn't there a pop performance category? There's a best pop solo performance category now,

which Taylor Swift did not win. So there you go. All is right. Who did win? I think Ed Sheeran. He did. Great singer, but I,

never going to do it for me. No, I don't, I don't, I don't suffer, you know, little hobbits. You know,

we should, we should give Taylor a little bit of credit for trying to belt. She did try to sing that song. Yeah, but when you, okay. You know, she did. She sing that song yeah but when you okay you know she did she gave it a shot she tried i was gonna say if you if you try to fly a spaceship without the training do you get credit for that you know what that's a good point yeah lesson number2. Don't fly a spaceship without the training. What number was that?

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You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an

anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I think, Matt, I think some contenders for merch for this episode is a shirt with some lessons. I think so.

I think we'll find the right lesson as we go, but you can look forward to Las Culturistas' shirt that will have one of our lessons on it, and that will be still to come so everyone's gotta gotta gotta keep listening so i just want to talk about the host of the show ll cool j yes that's the the pseudo host does this happen every single year that's my first question and my second question that i pose to you is what's the difference between ll cool j and queen latifah really wow go tell me the difference between ll cool j and queen latifah really wow go tell me the

difference between ll cool j and queen latifah ll cool j the same person ll cool j wears little berets i don't know ll cool j um ll cool j has they've got the same energy they've got the same round face yeah i think it's the same kind of like inoffensive yet like a little bit edgy isn't that it's horrible it's like we're gonna put a harmless african-american in front of america yeah like no queen latifah i'm sorry love her dana owens can you like she is it i am a huge queen i love queenifah. I think that, but I do think that the majority of the reason why I like her is because of her personality and how cool she is. Can I tell you I met her once?

Yes. And she was very nice to you. I mean, it was like when I was a freshman in college. And I was kind of lost at the time. I didn't really know what I wanted to do. I was writing for the school school newspaper the nyu school newspaper called the washington square news and there was different sections obviously so i went to go be in like the film and television and theater reviews and features department and so we got

to do culture culture and interested in culture at an early age yes what the second i came to new york i knew culture at an early age i knew culture was second I came to New York, I knew culture was for me. At an early age. I knew culture was for me. So I got the opportunity to kind of go and see movies that were coming out early. And I would see them and then I would get to go to these press junkets. And I would interview some of the celebrities and some of the, you know, I did meet some cool people. I got to interview Gary Cole. Oh, my God. From Pineapple Express and Brady Bunch movies. And I was interviewing him about a movie. I got to interview Gary Cole. Oh my God. From Pineapple Express and Brady Bunch movies.

And I was interviewing him about a movie. Biggest crush on Gary Cole. I was interviewing him about a movie called Forever Strong about rugby. Never heard of it? No. Nope. Neither did I ever again. I did watch it though.

You know who was in that? There was a really hot, hot, hot actor, Sean Farris. No. What is that name? Well, you got to look him up because this guy was hot. And also Sean Farris? No. What is that name? Well, you gotta look him up because this guy was hot. And also Amber Heard was in it. Amber Heard.

She went on to bigger and better things. Yes. But I mean... So this movie was... Anyway, that's a tangent. But I did get the opportunity to have this experience with The Secret Life of Bees.

Group interview with Queen Latifah. Group interview with Queen Latifah. So I'm kind of very obviously... I i'm 18 i'm new to interviewing celebrities so green is grass yes green is grass so basically like three of them come in the writer director gina prince bythewood who also wrote and directed love and basketball one of my favorites wow um and something else recently oh beyond the lights i was gonna guess that yeah i'm really have to see that really really really good movies this this woman makes what's her name gina prince bythewood culture spotlight spotlight on gina prince bythewood

you know check her out if you haven't because beyond the lights is very good it's a little heavy-handed at times but love and basketball is like a classic for all time, I think. And Secret Life of Bees wasn't too bad either, right? Yeah, it's pretty good. Okay. So she comes in. She's fine. Nice interview.

Sophie Okonedo comes in. You've told me this story. Hotel Rwanda's Sophie Okonedo. She comes in. She takes herself very seriously. But, you know, as she should. She's a very, very actress but um you just kind of feel everyone like in the room kind of like straightened up because it's like an oscar nominated actress that we're dealing with now

so like um i'm there i don't really everyone's asking the good questions everyone's very experienced jumping in like what everyone's got their like really nice tape recorders out on the desk i've got my shitty like one that i just bought from like a drugstore dictaphone yeah yeah and um all i knew about her was that she had been nominated for an oscar for hotel rwanda that was it and i knew that she was in this movie she played like the younger mentally challenged and so you asked her so i guess she was in the middle of answering some other question and I, and someone brought up how amazing her performance was in secret life of bees and like that there would be a claim coming her way. Wow.

So she's like, well, yeah. And so I kind of like, because like you do in these situations, you got to kind of get your question in. So I asked, well,

does that make you nervous to talk about Oscar? Like, does that give you a little talk about oscar like does that give you a little bit of butterflies to know that might be down the road valid question she looks at me and she goes oh i don't know that that's in god's hands and i'm like okay and um i couldn't possibly think about it what that's in god's hands yeah god god god god's the one she's like very weekly looks away i'm like continue and then um the one reporter next to me goes did you want to finish your answer oh my god because he interrupted you oh i was like looking at this girl next to me who's

like you know obviously like you know 20 years old probably like a professional and she just dressed me down in front of the whole room and Sophia on so I'm like you take yourself too serious yours this this whoever that reporter was is sitting in it sitting in some like stupid shittily upholstered chair just like you were and

she was all the same shit that I was and I like just bumbled in there from the NYU newspaper was like get a life. She was really mean to me in front of everybody. Oh my God. Give it up. That's in God's hands.

God's the one filling out the ballots. And God's the one who's like holding lunches for you. God is Harvey Weinstein. Yeah. So anyway. Fuck off, Sophie. Sorry. So anyway, she gets out of there.

I'm like, and so basically like we're all sitting there. It's really uncomfortable at this point. So now Queen Latifah is coming dana she's the one you want to talk to anyway yeah and now i'm like too embarrassed to ask a question oh and also at the end when everyone was done with their interview everyone's doing the bullshit of going up to them and be like oh i loved you in this i loved you in this like you were so good in hotel rwanda but no one could think of anything to say to Sophie Okonedo except Hotel Rwanda. She's like, thanks, thanks, thanks. So Queen Latifah comes in

and she's a thousand feet tall. She's got platinum blonde hair. Yes. And she just brings the X Factor in the room. Of course. She's just like oozing. She's just so good. Like Queen Latifah is working the room. she sits down handles all

her questions with such grace looks everyone in the eye just like such a pro so then at the end we all get the opportunity to like get our like junket packets signed by them great so i am listening to everyone be like i you know everyone that's pretending to know so much about like her of or however you say that word her of like her resume they've got it they've seen all our films right everyone everyone's seen all queen latifah's movies absolutely meanwhile all these people had seen were chicago and maybe they had seen like what's the one bringing down the house bringing down the house maybe what's the one with the old one with her and jada pickett's where they rob a bank oh i know that what you're talking about uh shit that one that one uh-huh wait let

me let me look this up look it up while i finish this so i'm going up and i'm like i have seen a lot of her movies and i'm gonna nail this set it off so set it off okay so not that one i actually haven't seen set it off but i have i went up to her and i handed her my pamphlet and I said, I just wanted to tell you, I loved you in life support, which was her HBO AIDS movie. And she turns around to me and she didn't look anyone in the eye. She looks me dead in the eyes and she goes, thank you so much,

baby. Yes. And I was like, yeah, and I could see out of the corner of my eye, the woman that like had talked shit about me before was like, yeah. And I could see out of the corner of my eye the woman that had talked shit about me before was like, damn it. This kid's got something.

This kid is culture. This kid knows. So remember when I said later I would tell you why I was qualified? That's why. That's why, because you knew life support. And I had legitimately seen it and it was moving. Right, and then you made a connection with Queen Latifah. Yes, I did.

Or she turned around. She wiped her platinum blonde hair out of her eyes. And she said, thank you so much, baby. You broke through her because she sits through that shit all day. Well, I said to myself, I was like, she probably never hears the stuff that she really thinks is great. Right. I'm sure she loved doing life support. Anyway, it was mostly me being like, I'm going to get this woman.

And you... I'm going to get her. How poetic. So I did get her. But anyway, I hear a lot of people talk about why is Queen Latifah famous. You could debate whether she deserved her Oscar nomination for Chicago. But I'm saying I think Queen Latifah deserves her place in the lexicon, in the culture. And you have a conspiracy, in the culture,

you have a cultural conspiracy that Queen Latifah is ladies love Cool James, is LL Cool J. I think they're the same person. I think they gotta swap them out so that we feel that different people are hosting different things. It's a tokenism issue.

They think, wow, we need just another person just like Queen Latifah, but we can't find him or her. They're Switzerland in that like, they're Switzerland in that like, oh, cool, Jag and Queen Latifah. It's like, I'm not offended by them and I would probably fuck them. That's what people think about Switzerland. Yeah, I'd probably fuck Switzerland. Yeah.

I would fuck a Swiss person. Yeah. Male, female, intersex, genderqueer. That's a part of culture. Any person. Is what? What is? You don't discriminate sexually.

Guys, lesson 567. Lesson 567. In culture. Culture. You don't discriminate sexually. All right. Let's keep going. We've got a lot to cover.

Let's keep talking about the Grammys. I think the host was a questionable thing. I think we deserve better. I think we just have to be challenged by the Grammys with a different kind of host. Sure. I'll say that. Carrie Underwood, Sam Hunt, no chemistry.

There's nothing. So Carrie Underwood, obviously, you know, one of the queens of country. There's a new one, new country star. This guy, he's like, he's really gorgeous, hot,

but he just really can't sing. And I ask, is country music just a bunch of hot dudes that can't sing? Yes, I think it is. Absolutely. Country music, I think is even more gridlocked in its,

I think anybody can do this. Exactly. Like, what the fuck? You can't. Matt, you guys, Matt Rogers would kill in country. I think they should make me a country music singer. You would succeed with flying colors. Well, you know what? Homosexuality.

Doors are about to open. I just wanted to tell everyone that I'm homosexual. I want to tell everyone that right now so i don't feel like i'm hiding this is not the place well not the place i said i would be dropping truths in culture you don't hide but in culture you um don't ask don't tell okay okay rule number one rule number one in culture don't ask, don't tell. But that's... You know what? That's the merch.

I think that's it. Okay. So you can look forward to a crew neck shirt or white crew neck shirt. Uh-huh. And it's going to say... Last culture race does less than number... Last culture says rule number one. In culture, don't ask, don't tell.

Perfect. Only create, really. Only create, only crit. Only create, only crit. But anyway, their duet was absolutely stupid but i do have to give props to her outfit oh you said um i so she came out and her outfit was like fuck me in heaven which is she's wearing this like in a nutshell nighty and it's like ripped at the bottom and it looks like she looked like an angel like a fuckable angel that's what country music is is um uh have sex with me in the christian afterlife yeah that's it uh-huh super

boring very boring suit but like you know what they all have that fox news like ideal beauty sure oh it's such bullshit because all the women look the same carrie was giving me megan kelly realness she really was yeah they've all got their jessica simpson bullshit hair extensions wow although she was rocking a shorter do she was rocking a nice little carly fiorina yeah she was showing her support angle for the now defunct carly fiorina campaign yes carrie underwood by the way, would love to know her politics. Oh, she, I think at the Country Music Awards a couple years, in 2014 after the midterm elections,

she threw in a little zinger about Republicans taking back Congress. Did she? And I don't remember what word she said, but she said that and it got a huge laugh in the room, played so well in that room. She read the room. And I was like, oh, okay, well, she's outing herself got a huge laugh in the room played so well in that room she read the room and um and i was like oh okay well she's come she's outing herself as a huge republican which makes total sure i mean yeah sure anyway think about the lies we were fed about carry on oh my

she'd never been on a plane fuck she's never seen a camera meanwhile think about the bullshit that is american idol talk about what needs to get ripped out of culture oh well it is think about the bullshit that is American Idol. Talk about what needs to get ripped out of culture. Oh, well, it is. Think about Good Riddance. Well, like the whole thing of like, we just found Carrie, but we've got all this stock footage of her playing in the fields. How? How, I ask?

Think about what you're being fed. Think about what you're being fed. Look for the Pepsi cans is what I say. Wow. Look for the Pepsi cans. Look for the pepsi cans is what i say wow look for the pepsi cans look for the pepsi trail y'all culture cultural fact rule number i think american idol by the way um main sponsor is coca-cola i believe well x-factor is pepsi i was i was one time i was in college i was watching x-factor america with nicole scherzinger with. With Nicole Scherzinger? With Nicole Scherzinger, with friend of the show and future guest,

Sudi Green. Yes. And I was exposing her to X Factor because I liked it because I would watch the British version on YouTube and it was coming to America. I was very excited about it and we were watching it one day

and I was like, you got to see this one girl. She's really good. So this girl starts singing, this attractive blonde girl. They do this like pan up her body which they never do for the men but they were like panning up from her legs up to her dress and like up to her face and sudi was like watch how they pan up her body and there's pepsi cans

everywhere they're selling you sex and you're and they're selling you pepsi and this is brainwash and i was like oh my god and i realized that was when i truly realized that really we're just sheep to them i mean it's very josie and the pussycats very josie and the peas josie the piece a prophetic movie oh yeah everyone should go out and watch the rachel lee cook rosario dawson starie and the Pussycats because it was ahead of its time. Ahead of its time. Still ahead of its time. And taking down the music industry like we are today. We are just

taking the baton from Josie and the Pussycats. I mean there's a lot to think about there. And I would say rule number 69. Look for the Pepsi cans. Look for the Pepsi cans. Number 69. If they're there, don't trust what you see. Wow. I would say. Yeah. that's good we saw ariana grande on the grammys she she was introing the weekend she threw a little pun in there a little joke and i what are they trying to do with her at this

point like you can't have her out there licking donuts and talking about how she hates america so they try to make her like funny she's a comedic she's a comedic genius right genius she's a talent she's a culture you know what cultural stamp of approval from las culturistas ariana grande is the is the next mobs mabley i can see her in one of those movies like scary movie yeah she would do scary i could see her well she was in the scream queens for like 60 seconds which is you know i can see her being in one of those like farcey uh satire movies that like the way she would be the carmen electra because remember how carmen electra was

in scary maybe she would basically fill in for that yeah yeah i could see ariana grande fill in that role be yeah be that little trope okay let's keep it on the weekend whatever weekend whatever i don't get it ellie golding performed she sounded okay um oh and and uh andre day i believe yeah what i didn't i didn't know her but she does have a pretty good voice i i feel like she just showed up out of nowhere she's she's good i like her we had the lionel richie tribute demi looked really good i said it's amazing to see demi lovato style progressing from 2015 demi lovato to 2007 demi lovato it's amazing to hear take the sleep forward just a regression she looks like camp rock she looks

like camp rock yeah she just had this whole year cool for the summer also one of the records of the year i think ignored this year excellent record but, she looked unbelievable all year, and she shows up looking like? Chased. Looking like, I think I have a heart attack. Wow. So it's 2007 Demi. It feels old.

It feels like I've been there. It's 2013 Demi. And I want Demi Lovato to move forward, because I like Demi. I'm worried about her vocal health. She has, you pointed out that when she hit that, I love you rush she decided to take it way up and her neck her veins bursting with veins not healthy not healthy veins

to have bursts no no no no no because it's all coming from and doesn't sound healthy it sounds like it's a scream it sounds like you're blowing out every gasket in your body she had like a widely acclaimed snl performance not long ago and i heard a lot of screaming and i think stone cold yeah which is tough and you know she has really hard music but the thing is they were saying a few years ago about her like she can only last a few more years in terms of her her voice and she has lasted and i mean she's still doing it so maybe she's just got one of those throats that can do it. Demi Lovato.

She's got one of those throats. Demi Lovato's got one of those throats. Look out for the neck sock. I think this could be a pretty good piece of merch. Demi Lovato, she's got one of those. The Demi Lovato neck sock to keep your neck and throat warm. Or you need to sing like Demi Lovato and scream. I was going to also propose,

this could be like a supplemental piece of merch, like a jewel case CD, CD case with like a mock album artwork. Demi Lovato and the album title is One of Those Throats. One of Those Throats. It's like Katy Perry, One of the Boys. One of the Boys.

Katy Perry absent from the Grammys. But she was heavily featured in cosmetic, I think, CoverGirl commercials. That girl has so many product endorsements. Yeah, I mean. She's got Pepsi. She's got H&M. She's got CoverGirl.

She's, oh my God. Is she Pepsi? Is Pepsi doing? Well, I think Super Bowl, when she was opening for the Super Bowl. I mean, everybody. Right, right, right. As I'm saying, look for the Pepsi people.

But look, it works both ways because you know who can never ever ever ever do the super bowl halftime show because of her diet coke alignment taylor taylor taylor swift so she can never do it someone brought that up they were like you know taylor swift is livid that she probably can't do the top the super bowl halftime show in the next 10 years because of diet coke and i hadn't thought of that that's a thing culture what do we culture is beholden to capitalism yeah everybody why did we think of the lady gaga david boy tribute i know bowen is a huge lady gaga fan lady gaga changed bowen's life it was so wacky it was a little bit unfocused it was just there's too much i don't know what she was trying to say i don't know if she was

like obviously she was trying to honor david right but um or david like i know i'm bowie but like uh you know it was just kind of all over the place that's the thing about lady gaga is you never really know who she is as an artist maybe that's her thing is that she's a chameleon but also like focus on something i don't know i prefer what she's been this year sure i like that great i like the weird wacky american horror story choice i can't watch it because it scares me too much oh but i like that she's on it i think it's fucking so gay and i love that for her and i think it's super heightened and perfect for her and i like her tony bennett shit and i like this song about campus rape and i think it's super heightened and perfect for her and i like her tony bennett shit

and i like this song about campus rape and i think it's important and i support it there you go i think that like no i mean lady gaga has to really it didn't it didn't her david bowie tribute didn't like upset me in any way i saw people on twitter being like i can't imagine any bowie fan liking this but you know what like i feel like lady g's, leave her alone when it comes to David Bowie. I mean, obviously he's a huge influence on her. It's like, come on. Yeah. Lay off.

She's had the lightning bolts over her eyes since day one. Leave your crit at home on this one. Leave the crit at home. I think in culture, rule number 192. 192. Sometimes you got to leave your crit at home. Leave your crit at home unless you're creating. You got to crit.

You got to create to crit. Create? Then sure, crit. Thank you. Great. So I think at this moment, I want to go to a little segment that we have called I Don't Think So, Honey. I Don't Think So, Honey.

Because I have a big I Don't Think So, Honey. Go. About this. And I want to put one minute on the clock. Let's put it. Okay, let's do it. So this is, we have one minute to really get our frustrations out about something that happened in this cultural event.

This tonight, it's the Grammys. And my I don't think so, honey. I'll let you know what it is when I have my minute. Okay. All right. One second. It's going to really, I've got a lot to unload because I think that we saw something happen last night that's unacceptable.

Great. All right. Let's go. And go. One minute. Whoever did the sound engineering on Adele, I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey. Let me tell you something.

That's the voice right now. And what? You couldn't wait? What was that strumming of the guitar? I don't think so, honey. You better relax. Get it right. How come the sound could be right for everyone else?

How come I have to watch that, and if I didn't know better, I'm gonna walk away with that saying, Taylor Swift's as good a singer as Adele. I don't think so, honey. Justin Bieber performed better as Adele. It was disgusting. Better than Adele?

I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey, Justin Bieber. No. Also, what the heck? Stop it. Like, make a joke. Like, honestly, I know the show must go on, but I don't think so, honey.

I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey. And honestly, she was so distracted in the first half. I felt for her so badly because she obviously wasn't breathing correctly for the second half, but I don't think it'll work. She's a consummate performer. Any haters that out there think this is going to bring Adele down, I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey. I think you can stay out. I think you can leave your credit home on this one, honey, because Adele's here to stay, and that song was really tough.

So that's my I don't think so, honey, and that's one minute that song is really tough. So that's my I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. Wow. One minute. Amazing. I don't think so, honey. I don't think so. Because don't come for Adele.

Well, come on. Okay. Your time's up. Your time's up. Time's up. But I think I got it across. Here we go. Here's my I don't think so, honey.

All right. And let me hold this for you. So we're going to hear something. You have what you want to talk about? For the most part. I think I have a theme. All right. Well, here we go. Okay. And go. I don't think so, honey. You know what you want to talk about? For the most part. I think I have a theme. All right. Well, here we go.

Okay, Dan. And go. I don't think so, honey. You know who I don't think so, honey? This episode's going to be Taylor Swift. I love Taylor. Love her to death. Love her music.

Respect her as an artist. But you know what? Her behavior sometimes at award shows, and this does not have anything to do with respectability politics. She can behave as she chooses. But the way that she sort of holds these cards in her hand and shows them off on tv and i don't think so honey i don't think so honey the friends i don't think so honey yeah that's ed sheeran's moment honey that's ed sheeran's moment

honey do you do not clutch on to ed sheeran after he wins his award and then turn to all your to selena gomez and go oh my god i can't believe he won and like the cameras are on you yeah the camera guy i don't think so i don't think so, honey. That's not for Taylor and Selena. That's not for Taylor, honey. No, I don't think so, honey. And you know what? I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey.

The people who think that Taylor Swift is giving you this like authentic feminism. She's not your friend. She's not your friend, honey. I don't think so, honey. She's our friend. She's our friend, but not yours, honey. But she's Selena Gomez's friend.

And also, I don't think so, honey, Selena Gomez. I don't think so, honey, Selena Gomez. You know what? You can just ditch the singing and go to the acting. Are you sick or what? Wow. Thank you. One minute. One minute. I don't think so honey selena i don't think selena gomez you know what you can just ditch the singing and go to the act are you sick or what like wow thank you one minute one minute i don't think so honey wow so now what we're supposed to do is we're supposed to find an organic third which i think we found it kind of found it for with selena gomez selena gomez do we want to go one minute hard at selena let's go one minute hard we're gonna go one minute hard

at selena we're gonna ask joe to hold hold our thing our timer so this is one minute hard at Selena. We're going to ask Joe to hold our thing, our timer. So this is one minute, I don't think so, honey, for Selena Gomez and go. I don't think so, honey. No, because let me tell you something. Let me tell you something right now. Let me tell you something. She gets on that stage and like I know there's a lupus issue and I feel bad. Maybe she's having a bad moment. Sure.

But like she's whispering into the mic doing the sexy baby thing and it's like that's all you're selling. I don't think so, honey. Anyone who does the sexy baby thing, I don't think so, honey. And also selling i don't think so honey anyone who does the sexy baby thing i don't think so honey and also i don't think so honey you know what about selena gomez the fact that she has not put her focus on her film career because she is a very talented very talented and i don't think so honey with the music because we know it's just for money and also i understand you're an industry but guess what we're not stupid we're not stupid we're not gonna fall for that i don't think so honey it's not even a j-lo thing i don't think so honey because j-lo does have talent she is busting her ass dancing she is giving you performance and you're

not giving me performance selena is you give me performance on the film screen on the celluloid on the celluloid you know what you give me film you give me you give me performance and culture on spring breakers spring breakers wizards of weberley place on harmony corinne films on art house projects please give me that also big short give me life give me life selena gomez you know what selena gomez do not give me life at the grammys i don't think so honey that's one minute wow thank you that was our organic third and now it's time for our culture of the week wow we've gotten now to that moment where we pick out an institution or a you know a cultural movement something that's really killing it and i

think every week we can really expect versatility in this section yes we're gonna we're gonna try to cast a wide net and just pull from different places and culture and society so and not only is there a cultural leak on the flips that we have a vulture of the week vulture of the failed culture of the week support monto for you yeah and so we're gonna we should mention that matt and i try to compare notes um but we don't always get to it we don't always get to it and sometimes we try not to have as much overlap we try not to have overlap when possible but sometimes um sometimes there is and so let's just get into it sure so would you like to go first sure so what's your culture of the week what is surpassing what is elevating culture this week? Who, what, when, where, why, please?

Thank you, Matt. I think what is really putting culture at the forefront this week, what is the rising tide that's lifting every boat in culture, it has to be the turkey legs at Disney World. Wow. Elaborate on that. How did it heighten your experience when you went there? So for people who aren't familiar with the Disney parks,

at Disney World, most of the Disney parks sell these gigantic turkey legs at dedicated stands throughout the park that basically only sell the turkey legs. Right. They're turkey leg stands. So you're going to have your food stands, your beverage stands, but then you're going to get your turkey leg stands. Not unlike gonna have your food stands your beverage stands but then you're gonna get your turkey legs not unlike you'd see dip and dots or something like that exactly turkey legs i would say are the dip and dots of disney world

yes so you would you know what the way it the way it improved my experience at disney parks or it has improved them multiple times is um sometimes i'm hungry sometimes i need salt and protein right and fat in my diet do you think they're too big no i don't know absolutely not if i thought they were too big i would not they would not be my culture of the week i don't think they're too big i don't think so honey do you feel that they might impede your experience on rides because you might be a little full or you might have be spending a lot of time eating them no sweetie because look the turkey leg just is is your marker for the day you're right i have at least three turkey legs in my day at disney world okay just to denote the

beginning the middle and the end yeah and so you just have to keep you have to check yourself you got to keep you so you would continue eating them throughout the day absolutely okay um in addition to it's an additive food item to my meals my breakfast my lunch my dinner and drinks alcohol is as an adult i get to experience disney world with alcohol right like you know park sanctioned alcohol which is huge not in that not in the magic kingdom but in the other parks magic kingdom does sell beer at cinderella's cinderella's castle no uh bells enchanted bells enchanted tavern you know it's gonna take you quite quite some time to get a reservation there wow i would say i wanted i just want to throw out

there because you know bowen and i with our you know you know friend of the show and future guest david mizzoni new york city comedian pal we all went to disney world together guest appearance by my sister chelsea ryan rogers. And we were there and we enjoyed all these pleasures except we did not get to enjoy Belle's Enchanted Tavern in the new Fantasyland because you're talking about a 10 month wait for reservations. I'm talking about the when it opens up in the morning for breakfast to when it closes at night. All hours. It's booked up. Booked. 6 to 10 months in advance. If you can believe that. I mean, hi, New York hours. It's booked up. Booked. Six to ten months in advance. If you can believe that.

I mean, hi, New York City, like that's a Hamilton ticket. That's crazy. That's nuts. And I thought it couldn't be real. It's real.

It's real. Also, one of my favorite employees at Disney World has got to be the hostess at Bell's Enchanted Tavern who,

this is, before we went together, I went once. My sister and I walked up to this girl that was the host there. And she's got a smile as big as the day is long. Like greeting guests. Like telling everyone the same thing. Which is no, no, no, no. And like everyone's so mad. Give her no so mad to the point where i was like they're

treating her so badly it's not her fault and i said to my sister i was like what would make a person continue this job like there must be benefits or something or maybe she's just actualized and likes it uh-huh and like really she's completely in a in a very um because the people that work at disney they do love it they do love it you know what that i think you're right she's actualized in a in a carl jungian way she is completely self-actualized yeah i think so um okay well that's my culture of the week what about yours um so my culture of the week this is crazy but it was the disney turkey legs as well. You know why we try not to overlap? I didn't think that you were going to go that way, but I was thinking, what have I enjoyed

most over the last year of my life? Because, you know, this is the first episode and it was the Disney turkey legs. I mean, they bring me back to a time when I was young where I think my father exposed me to the turkey legs for the first time in Epcot. Do you think they're too big? I don't. Yeah. I don't think they're too big i don't yeah i don't think they're too big and i never feel that full but i would say if i had one complaint

about them it's that they are a little messy but then that doesn't bother me either because then i have some more on my face and if someone says you got a little turkey leg on your face i just take it and i eat it it's just like another snack. Yeah. So for me, it's like, and I don't feel that they're overpriced. No. If you were going to ask me if I think they're overpriced. I think that the running rate is $7. Seven.

Seven to 10. I said I would pay for them if they were $12, $14, $15. I would pay upwards of $30 for a turkey leg. I would too because you know where you are. You're in Disney World. You're in Disney World and you got to expect to spend money. I mean, if you're not going to expect to spend money when you go there, I don't know what you're going there for.

That is premium turkey. That is premium poultry. I just want to say for anyone that might be planning an Orlando vacation, you might be surprised about the price point Disney World versus Universal Studios because we, I think think thought it would be easier to fit universal studios florida or i should say universal orlando because it's now

a resort that rivals that of disney into the same trip and you know we were at universal for one day and it was more expensive than the three days we were at disney disney world you guys no joke no joke super affordable joke. Super affordable. Super affordable. But meanwhile, and you would think this would be the reverse, Universal is big-jogging it like crazy with this new Harry Potter park. They are just really, really spiking up their prices. But content over at Universal, especially for older people,

you could say that's where you're going to get the bang for your buck. That's true. Literally, because you are paying for it. Do they have the turkey legs no they don't and i just get a sense of childlike wonder and magic at disney all right vulture of the week why don't you go first okay so my vulture of the week failed culture and this this is okay remember this is going to be the opposite of what a turkey leg is so the opposite of a turkey like at disney world for me is kanye west okay he has he has just really been all over the map and i agree this this this this campaign for for life of pablo is the schizophrenic i would say probably very like you know deliberate but like god it's

so hard to follow what's the biggest difference between what kanye is doing and the turkey leg disney is doing with the turkey legs hmm what kanye is doing that what kanye isn't doing that the disney turkey legs are doing is um letting me into the world of the turkey leg right and kanye is not world. You feel this is an exclusive, almost squad-like. Almost squad-like. Like, I don't think so, honey, Taylor Swift. I would completely transpose that to, I don't think so, Kanye West.

Look, this Wiz Khalifa beef was nuts to follow. Hated it, hated it. Disgusting. Although, I was very down with Kanye liking butt stuff. But then he came out and, you know, he came out and you know he shamed us all He shamed us all and then he denied the butt stuff You know what Stupid to do

Own the butt stuff Or get the fuck out After Amber Rose tweeted I was like you know what No I'm on Kanye's side He loves butt stuff so do I Don't stigmatize it But then Kanye denies the butt stuff I don't like that because all you have to do is not respond don't

say i don't do the butt stuff i keep that out of there like you treat it like it's disgusting and we all feel disgusting and then everyone thinks and then this communities will think it's disgusting also i just want to say that you can be a genius and also be a misogynist absolutely we've seen many of them throughout the years hello and i And I think. Bill Cosby innocent. Bill Cosby similar. Similar. Well, I don't know. That's a big thing. That's a big jump.

But I would say that Kanye West is not someone I would look at and I would say, that guy respects women. I just wouldn't. No, he doesn't. And I think there's a big Bernie bro-esque type problem happening. Wow, pulling in Bernie bros. Towards Taylor Swift right now. Sure.

Which is this thing of like people upset about her kind of saying, shading Kanye West with her album of the year acceptance speech. No, she's just sticking up for herself because he called her a bitch and said that he invented her. That's, that's misogynistic behavior and it should be called out. Don't you love it when men can also be a genius and you can enjoy his music, but don't get pissed that she said something. Don't you love it when men, um,

I think they've invented someone. That's, that's what I love. Oh yeah. I mean, no, I'm a, I love Kanye West.

I love, and the album's good. Uh, I think that absolutely it's what i love oh yeah i mean no i'm a i love kanye west i love and the album's good i think that absolutely it's good absolutely it's always going to be good he's always going to create great music and create great art but you know him being a massager is not mutually exclusive and he's not giving me turkey leg you know what kanye give us turkey leg in a paragraph how could the grammys have improved? Go. Yes. This is our job as culture consultants. The Grammys could have been improved by more, more thoughtful performance ideas and concepts and just an outward,

a very overt statement that this is a populist competition right that's that that that that's my that's my little soundbite so you think going in knowing this is a populist capitalist moment you gotta think about what makes the industry money this is an industry event right right right maybe a little bit more forward oh my god we didn't even talk about the hamilton and the kendrick lamar performances but see those two you know what i need more moments like those what yeah watching this back to back i was like wow this is you know what the grammys are are a good award show because you get amazing moments like this because yes so what i want to see is i want to see more true talent yes because you watched hamilton and you're like oh this this is what talented people look like. And you get the hype around Hamilton after you watch it.

So that's it. My thing with the Grammys is it's like, you know what, Grammys? Make me believe the hype. How about that? Culture lesson number 467. Make me believe the hype. Make me believe the hype, honey. Because you hyped.

Make me believe the hype, honey. I think we've really come to some great conclusions about the Grammys and the state of the music industry here today. I think we should all be really excited about the piece of merch that we have now at the end of the show. It's rule number one. When it comes to culture, don't ask, don't ask,

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