Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - “The Hills are Alive with the Sound of Cumbia“ (w/ Oscar Montoya)

Episode Date: May 17, 2017

FEEL YOUR FANTASY!!! It’s the last of the LA eps (for now). Which means that the endgame of the Las Culturistas West Coast Sabbatical can finally be revealed... to commune with SUPER GUEST, the Oprah of Improv, OSCAR MONTOYA!!! What else??? Matt, Bowen, and Oscar talk icons, tattoos, the paranormal, escape rooms, why Elizabeth Banks is an early Oscar frontrunner (Power Rangers, HONEY), and so so so so so so so so much more. Also Matt’s drag alter ego, Anya Rysm the Headache Queen, makes her first (but hopefully not last) appearance on the cast. LISTEN, BITCH!!!LAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasCONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASThttp://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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When I think how life used to be. Always walking in the shadows. That is the beginning of Blessed by Christina Aguilera. We were just talking about this and we were just, and we had to really hold off on recording because Matt was masticating on a goddamn pina colada muffin, which is the most Matt Rogers la and the reason i started to sing blessed yes it's because we are blessed because of how i feel today uh with this guest

honey bless up which is something we've been saying a lot in la i don't know will we carry it back to us when we get back to new york stay tuned however for this moment right now we feel certainly that way. Certainly, I feel the need to say bless up with our guest. Let's go through the credits, Matt. I would love to list off some of these credits. Come on. He is on the UCB Herald team, Nomi Malone.

And if you thought that was enough, he's also on the UCB Mod team, The Summer Of. Because guess what? It wasn't enough. It wasn't enough. And he's a little double dipper, honey. He's a versatile queen. Versatile crocodile. And you also might know our guest from his amazing series

where he reads on Facebook Live Tyra Banks' amazing novel, Model Land, with special guests. And you might also know him from his monthly show, I Will Always Love You, at UCB's Inner Sanctum. He is known as the Oprah of improv. He's the Oprah of improv, the Oprah of comedy,

the Oprah of my life. Everyone, please welcome Oscar Montoya. Those were the kindest words I've ever heard anyone say about me. Bish, we are kind here. Don't you ever forget us. Here's the thing. I wouldn't just say it. You wouldn't just say it?

People have said that to me. They've said, you know, Oscar, as an improv coach, he's like Oprah. And I will say this, and this is like sentimental as hell. The gag. The gag. The gag. I will say this is sentimental as hell, and I've said this to Oscar fully earnest. We're going into this this early?

I'm just saying, I just want to get this out there, just to hop on the Oprah of improv thing. Oh my god. I would not be doing half the shit I would be doing in comedy in the live comedy space if it weren't for Oscar Montoy because he helped me co-host my first variety show with him which is called Ethnic Realness and we just did

we're still doing it we just did a show on Saturday April 15th it was a blast it was a gag so we all have Oscar to thank stop it how are you I am doing great thank. We all have Oscar to thank. Stop it. How are you? I am doing great. Thank you so much for having me on this podcast.

It's legendary. Okay. It's why we came to LA was to have you on this podcast. I'm not, that's part of the reason. It's part of the reason. I mean, I'll take it. I mean, I'll take it. We did literally say like, oh, we'll be in LA.

We're doing some shows with Popper Roulette at UCB. Subtle plug, subtle plug. Well, they'll be long over by the time this goes on, but look us up online. But anyway, I was like,

and now we can get Oscar on Culture East. Which was part of the plan all along. We tried to orchestrate this when Oscar was in New York a few months ago. And not everything

is meant to be orchestrated. That's true. It wasn't the time. Sometimes the magic just happens and we have to allow the magic to happen. And the magic is happening right now. And that's why they call him the time. Sometimes the magic just happens and we have to allow the magic to happen. And the magic is happening right now.

And that's why they call him the Oprah of improv. Sometimes the magic just doesn't come. Magic wand just doesn't wave. Ooh, girl. I need some magic right about now. You could say, I need a hero.

I'm holding out for a hero at the end of the night. Cuties. You guys are my children But you know what? Children. You could say, I need a hero. I'm holding out for a hero at the end of the night. Cuties. You guys are my children. You know that? We are your children. I feel very much like Mother Love and just like,

you guys are my children. I do feel that way. And I'm so proud of my children. You know what I mean? And I only say children because I am like twice your age. Yes, that is true. You know what I mean?

False. No, it's true. It's okay. Yes, that is true. You know what I mean? False. No, it's true. It's okay. Okay, it's okay. It was Oscar's birthday recently. Oscar is 60. That's right. Oscar is 60 years old.

Oscar, it was- Clock the mug, honey. Clock the mug. I look like I'm in my 30s, but I'm 60 years old. Oscar, it was your birthday recently. You sent everybody on a scavenger hunt. It was called hashtag scavenger huntoya. That's right.

Hilarious. That's right. Now I would not do this. Now that I'm in my late 20s, I would not dare do a scavenger hunt except if it was for Oscar Montoya. Why wouldn't you do it? You would feel like,

you would feel like, what am I doing playing the role of a child? I'd be like, what am I doing? Playing the role of a 19 year old? Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. There's a little bit of that, but that's cute. No, but with Oscar, though, it will be a curated experience.

Honey, don't... It was fun. It was really, really fun. All the scavenger hunts was... I mean, I rarely indulge in myself. That's not part of what I do. That's not what I do. That's crazy to me. But I had two very good friends plan this whole thing because it was a surprise.

I had no idea they were doing this. I had no idea this was happening. So fun. So they got a whole bunch of us together and they did a scavenger hunt. And all of these things that we had to do were related to the stuff that I was into. For example, we had to take pictures in front of like haunted houses all throughout Los Angeles. And you know me and I love my haunted mythology. I do. I do. We had to take pictures in front of like haunted houses all throughout Los Angeles. And you know me and I love my haunted mythology.

I do. I do. Do you love a gag that is a created haunted house or do you need the real thing? Oh, I need those real life testimonials, darling. So you're not the type to roll through an experience that is a haunted house with live actors. Oh, I can get into it, but it's like fake. Do you know what I mean? It's like, I'm like, okay, Jan. Okay, these are like non-union actors just like giving it their all.

Yeah. Which is, it's fun. It's funny and campy and cute, right? But for me, the true gag is going into like paranormal, like that's the gag for me. I truly love. You know, you've been to my house. Yes. I'm not going to say my house is haunted, but it definitely gives the vibe of a haunted house.

That house is as old as time. I kid you not. It's called, my house is so old, it has a name. Her name is Myra. It's the Myra house. Jesus. And I live on the second floor. The first floor, my landlord lives there. her name is myra myra it's the myra house jesus and i live on the second floor the first floor my landlord lives there his name is stanley he's a very fun roly-poly dandy man come on stanley do you know what i mean he's just so fun sure and you're saying like a an erstwhile

actress was murdered there probably i'm saying is that he collects a lot of garbage just he's a very big like you know like uh the 14th shopper hilarious you've seen it right it's just it's got a lot of tchotchkes right and i'd like to think that there's some there's a spirit in in in each one of those tchotchkes do you know what i mean yeah i mean i've never i haven't had like a experience yet but like i like to think that one day it'll happen one day it'll happen for oscar oscar invites it because this is my favorite oscar montoya story ever one day we were hanging out and then oscar was wearing shorts and then i saw on his leg a new tattoo of a screaming cat face yes and i go oscar is that a new tattoo

he goes yeah and i was like well what is that a new tattoo? He goes, yeah. And I was like, well, what is that? And he goes, just so casually. It was just like, um, I walked into an antique shop or like an enchantment shop and I saw a tarot card with a screaming cat face on it. And I was like, I have to put that on my body. Yep. It's true. And I was like, Oscar, that is a tattoo.

But then that really was a tide change for me because I was like oh this is just what people with tattoos do they want a certain image on their body you don't have any neither of you have tattoos no but it took me the longest time to come around to this idea of it doesn't matter what you put on your body oh no and like I literally I was with Matt and Austin a few weeks ago

and we were walking down the street and I was like there was a tattoo parlor and I was like what if I just got a tattoo here like what if entertain that entertain that but you know what would it be well i i said no because for me it's i had to take a different perspective on it and maybe some of the listeners you know in the comments below can tell us how they feel comment below it's like for me it's like i i I get it. And anyone can do whatever the fuck they want. For me, it's just like, I don't think it would make a lot of sense for me and the person I am and who lives up in here, as I point to my brain, to put something on my body because I would hate it the next day and I would feel like I made a mistake and I would get real in my head about it. I think it's just a different ideology.

Sure, sure, sure. And you saying in the moment, like, what if i just got a tattoo i think was more to posit the question and less because you actually really wanted it no but it's the feeling struck me like the faintest hint of the desire struck me i was like i want a tattoo i want one now i think that's a human thing sure i mean yeah we've all thought it we've all thought it we've all we've all entertained that notion yeah do you know what i mean exactly what would you get to your head, what would you get right now if you had to get a tattoo? Oh my God.

Honestly, and this is not just because it's top of mind, the screaming cat face. The same tattoo that Oscar has, which is creepy. Okay, let's do it. It's a weird ass answer, but it's like, the fact that that image is still stuck with me. I think about that. I love that tattoo so much. I love all of my tattoos. And I have some of the dumbest tattoos in the history of tattoos.

There's not one that you're like, this one. Nope. No regrets. My first ever tattoo. As soon as I turned 18, I went to the tattoo parlor in the fucking West Village in like a rinky dink, like who cares tattoo parlor. And was like, I want a Power Rangers logo on my arm. And it's gigantic. And it's, I mean like a power rangers logo on my arm and it's gigantic and it's i mean like a

power mighty morphing power rangers tattoo i have that lightning bolt it's i love it i love it i love it so much people who see it are like oh you're you love gatorade don't you i'm like oh okay okay this is a straight this is How many do you have? Right now, I have 14 tattoos. Great. And there will be more. And they're steadily growing. Yes, yes, yes. I have a question for you, Oscar.

I feel like by default, I will assume that nobody with a tattoo owes anybody else the story behind the tattoo. Because it feels maybe a little invasive to be like, what's the meaning behind this? But what's your take on that? Oh, no. Ask away. Like I love that. But honestly, most of these tattoos don't even have stories.

Right. Most of these are just like, I love dinosaurs. I mean, there's like two themes that are going on in my tattoo story, if you will. Yeah. And that is dinosaurs and spooky imagery.

Yes. Like I have a Medusa, decapitated Medusa head on my, you know, on my leg, like a lot of cats, you know, ghosts,

mummies, you know what I mean? Do you connect Power Rangers to dinosaurs? Yes. Yes. Girl, oh, there's a clear connection.

Mastodon! That's right. Well, that's on dinosaur, but. Mastodon! But see, all of these images,

all of this imagery works with Oscar because he has a profound sense of who he is yeah me too and I'm the person who screams Mastodon

when asked to name a dinosaur wait we have to talk about Oscar and I talked about the Power Rangers movie

oh yes you did see it did you see it yes we saw it together okay let's dissect thank you

okay and I owe it all to whoever made it. Okay. I'll tell you who I owe it all to. It's Miss Elizabeth Banks, darling. Thank God. Oscar nominee. A revelation.

I think Oscar nominee. Ho! When her reaction was just, ho! To the one thing. I don't even think it was how. I think it was just, ho! To the one thing. I don't even think it was how. I think it was just, ho! It was just a guttural.

She saw what was in front of her and her reaction was to be like, She really went in. She got lost in that role. I truly believe there was not an ounce of Elizabeth Banks there at all. It was all Rita Repulsa. It was all Rita.

I also really dig the mythology that the movie has laid out for us. Oh, sure. The fact that, sorry, spoilers ahead. Yeah, spoilers. The fact that she used to be the Green Ranger. Love it. I like it.

Oh, Matt's on into it. Because here's the thing. Oh, no. Here we go. It didn't really make sense because that took place millions and millions of years ago, right? Well, let's say billions. Yeah, okay. So how did she have a name like rita

repulsa okay fine okay fine it was weird everyone had weird alien names uh and they spent your goddamn disbelief for one second but what if freedom what if rita meant something else in some other there you go you know weird alien language you know what i mean i overlook rita repulsa translates to like i don't know vivica monroe a fox um but no vivica monroe that's a fierce fucking vivica monroe is a drag name i think that's right vivica monroe season 10 funniest okay so i have to say this there is i was um recently um like sitting in on auditions for teams at ucb and you know like people name names all the time and you just forget or whatever and one one name that i will stick with me forever and ever and ever is someone his name is chase mcgowan he's so funny he just named himself veronique glass self, Veronique Glass. And I truly gagged. I truly died. I whooped and hollered

like a damn fool. It was the funniest thing ever. Veronique Glass. We need to have more fun with names, people. We do, we do. I love creating names. I think it's a wonderful opportunity. Seriously. Do you want to know what my

drag name would be? Oh, please tell me. Miss Anya Rizm. Anya Rizm. And she comes out. She's sickening. She's chronic. What kind of queen would you be? I would be the kind of queen who was sickening, but also a comedy queen.

Like literally sick? So honestly, hold on. I'm going to get up for a second because I'm going to do... Okay, when I do drag one day and get on RuPaul's Drag Race... And you must. And I'm a sickening queen. And you must. Miss Aneurysm always enters the runway like this.

Oh, she had to take her headphones off. I'm just going to... All right. Here we go. Okay. This is real. This is a first. Yes.

Slow, sultry walk. Oh, she has a horrible headache. And then now she's ready oh my gosh yes she's no words she stomps she stops she gets a searing pain in her head and then she keeps stomping that's right she gets like a throbbing migraine and then she writes herself and then it's just fierceness down the runway and like every now and then like her head throbs but my i'm a headache queen i love it i love it that's where your power is that's where the power is yeah i think and i also think like she is like very much like a fashion she's like you know she's a comedy queen because she because she's a comedy queen yes like she matt

rogers i love that you said okay i was i was about to point this out that when we talk about our drag alter egos which we all do as gay men gay men, we all have a drag queen fetus inside of us, and we just have to nurture it and raise it. And my question is, do we say I when we refer to this drag queen alter ego, or she? Matt, you just said she, but you also said she referring to yourself.

To me, words don't mean anything. There you go. So I could say don't mean anything. There you go. So I could talk, I could say anything and mean anything. Sure, sure, sure. So basically, You're not bound by words. I'm sure, yeah, I'm not bound by language. I'm describing the character right now. So she, because I wanted us to picture her exterior. You know what I mean? So I was saying she to paint a portrait of her. Right.

Bruce Wayne would never refer to Batman as, he would never refer to himself as I. Right? Batman, even though he has said I am Batman. Okay, but like in a qualitative way. Like if he was gabbing with the girls, and let's just say Batman was a fop, you know what I mean?

Foppy. And he was having brunch with his Justice League friends. And he was, as Bruce Wayne, everyone is not in costume. This is not a costume sort of themed brunch. This is like, oh, let's be ourselves here. Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne are hanging out together as Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne. At Mickey's. Exactly.

At Mickey's in West Hollywood. Because you know they're all from LA. They all brunch in LA. The brunch at Mickey's. Ham and eggs, honey. I mean, not Batman. Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent would be talking about she, Batman, and Superman, she. Exactly. Okay, there we go.

And basically, it would be like, if I was Bruce Wayne and Bowen was Clark Kent and he came and sat down and I was waiting for her basically it'd be like if i was bruce wayne and bowen was clark kent and he came and sat down and i was waiting for her i'd be like she got into it last night with the police didn't she okay bitch and then i would i would clap back and be like well she doesn't have a mansion with a basement in the cave okay bitch i want to do a mimosa honey you mimosa not she i didn't order her nothing. And stay out of my city. Well, she better not order me just egg whites. But why are you

fighting right away? Because we're adversaries, honey. Batman versus Superman. Didn't you see the Ben Affleck flick? Girl. Let's skip that. Let's skip that. That never happened. I pass on Ben Affleck. I skip Ben Affleck. Hard pass. Well, we're gonna have to see him again in that sequel. You know what I mean?

Oh, God. It's a hard no for me on Ben Affleck. He seems miserable. And a bad person. Like, he botched it up in Daredevil, and they were still like, let's give him another chance. But not Marvel. Let's see if he flourishes in DC. And he

did it. He did not rise to the occasion. It's not even him as an actor. I think he's fine. It's just like, I just don't want him to get my money. You know what I mean? He just seems like such a jerk.

I think if you get cast as two superheroes in two different franchises, not even in the same, whatever, you should- Like Ryan Reynolds. Like fucking-

Ryan Reynolds, Chris Evans. I mean, there have been people. people you know what I mean is there a shortage like they should just like take new people take a sabbatical if you're Chris Evans Ryan Reynolds and Ben Affleck just take like a decade off

because honestly you've made enough money to pay for a fucking generation you do not need to be another no Chris Evans actually once he booked Captain America he was like okay I'm he actually said in an interview, he's like, I'm actually done acting. He's like, I'm just going to do this. And he's in the one movie with Jenny

Slate that's coming out. His daughter's very gifted. But I think he just was like, oh, I have the ability to... I think he read the script and was like, I have the ability to get this made because of who I am, so I want to do it because I like the script. But he actually is one that, if you notice, it's not because he doesn't have

time because Scarlett Johansson is in all of them too and she works down but he doesn't do much else besides like smaller passion projecting movies and I think it's because he said he was like that's admirable I hear he's actually very cool

I hear he's very smart too but I don't know him so whatever but in my mind I would love I hear he's actually very cool. Yeah, that's what I hear too. I hear he's very smart too. But I don't know him, so whatever. But in my mind, I would love to live in a world where every single celebrity gets one shot at playing a superhero. And if they fuck it up, bye! You are banished from the celebrity center. My dream, because they're all Scientologists.

No, but by all means, come, come, come. My rule, this was back when the whole fucking Taylor Swift Snapchat, Kim Kardashian Snapchat thing, come, come, come. My rule, this was back when the whole fucking Taylor Swift Snapchat, Kim Kardashian Snapchat thing came out. I tweeted out. Wait, for those not in the know, recap, please. So Kim Kardashian, so Taylor Swift, back when Life of Pablo came out, which was Kanye West's album,

Kanye West had a lyric in a song called Famous that he said, Taylor Swift, I made that bitch famous or something like that. And Taylor came out and said, I never agreed. This is horrible. How dare Kanye West to call me that name. Never asked me for permission for this. That was what it was. It was over permission to use her name and call her a bitch and say, I feel like me and

Taylor might still have sex. And it was like objectionable lyrics. Right. And then Kim Kardashian went to some some press people and was like, well, I actually have video of her confirming this. And then after a week or so, she finally like released all of them via Snapchat. And it was like the Taylor Swift is over party. So literally video of Kanye West on the phone with Taylor Swift on speakerphone.

You can hear her say that it's okay. That it's okay. She's like, and she's encouraging him. So it's catching her in an explicit lie for her to play the victim. So as soon as that whole thing broke, I was like, this is so stupid, and I tweeted there should be a rule that

once you get famous, you have three years to live, and then we just kill you. I don't hate that. That is bold. I don't hate that. That is bold. I don't hate that. I don't hate that. Cause after three years,

three years is like when, you know, after three years you start decomposing a little. Or there should be like, if you're famous for a frivolous thing and who can be the judge, I guess. But like, I don't know.

I was just like, so when that all happened, I remember saying like, I honestly wouldn't care if we wiped this slate totally clean and got rid of not got rid of in terms of they died but like if none of these people retired yeah retire retire them all except beyonce i don't care about anyone okay let me let me ask you let me ask you a question bowen you are a vicious heartless monster he is a guru i mean it is-ish in here.

He comes in with the guru and lays it down. And it is getting a little guru-y in here for my taste. If you ask me, would you better? Girl, with the guru reference, I cannot. I cannot. No, for Matt, it is not a Despicable Me reference. It is. It's just a name that I can apply to anything.

No affiliation to the Despicable Me franchise? I'm sure they ripped that out from us. Absolutely. Okay, let me ask you guys this. Which icon, and I'm talking about the icon, which is safe, are consistently

perfect throughout their careers? Beyonce. Okay. Sandra Beyonce. Okay. Sandra Oh. Okay, this is a whole different vibe. This is a whole different vibe. This is apples and oranges here. What's going on?

What are we talking about? Icon. Are you talking about literal cultural icons? Sandra Oh is not a cultural icon. I think our icons. I see. Okay, so Beyonce. Let me think. Oscar, you go first. Do you think she's... Here's what a cultural icon. I think our icons. I see. Okay, so Beyonce. Let me think.

But Oscar, you go first. Do you think she's... Here's what I'll say. Beyonce, in a real way, but in a consistent and fluid way, has been able to truly reinvent herself in a way that was always not only interesting, but also very artistic and progressive. Whereas, you could argue, and I'm not necessarily arguing this. That Sandra Oh did this.

That Sandra Oh definitely did that movie with Anne Heche after she did Grey's Anatomy. Shut down. Anyway, but I was going to say, you could argue in a way that she has never truly slipped up in a way. Okay. Like in a way that like.

I'm going to play the devil's advocate here. Okay, sure. And say that her shelf life maybe isn't as long as the other icons. Really? You know what I mean? She's like, she's one of the newer, she is the newest icon. Beyonce? I would say so.

Beyonce's been a thing for almost 20 years. 20 years. If you actually think about it, Oscar. When did the entity of Beyonce come to fruition? I remember saying, Sasha Fierce, that was when she was like, okay, new gay. Agreed. And how long ago was that? Okay, are we talking about when she became an icon?

Seven years ago. Nine years ago. Or how long she's been doing very influential work. Because that, you could say, dates back to early Destiny's Child. Like, how early? And I dated this person. No, no, no. Part two?

I'm saying, once Say My Name came out, they were here to stay. Oh. And that came out in, like, 1999. Oh. Oh. You're talking about the writings on the wall, Destiny's Child. Of course I am. Because what am I going to do not?

You're talking Latavia and Latoya, Destiny's Child. Here's the thing. Listen. It's the thing. Listen. It's like... I just want to first correct that Sasha Fierce came out in 2008, which was nine years ago. I'm so sorry. But to say that Beyonce wasn't an icon until Sasha Fierce... Thank you for the shout-out to the fact-checkers. That's like, what are you saying?

What, did you sleep through Crazy in Love? Sure, sure, sure. I mean, okay, yeah. I'm so sorry. Don't apologize. Dangerously loud. Make your point! Well, no. I'm not okay, yeah. I'm so sorry. Don't apologize. Dangerously loud. Make your point. Well, no, I'm not... Oscar's being devil's advocate here. I think Beyonce will last for generations, and we're gonna see her...

You think she's gonna be... Absolutely. She'll be famous. You think she's gonna out-iconicize Madonna? Yes! Absolutely. Wow. Madonna has, like, had so many slip-ups.

It's insane. I mean, I agree with that beyonce is a never never i just love what you did to your mic by the way the way you grabbed it so cute she's like a little mouse she's never gonna resort to hijinks okay and and madonna is traipsing around here and she's performing hijinks it's a gimmick she's a gimmick queen she's giving you kissing brit at the VMAs. And Christina, let's not forget she also kissed Christina. Why do we keep

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You know I'm not gonna kiss you. Whatever it is. Because my mom would tell me on the internet. Okay, can I answer this question? Because my mom would tell me about it. Because I facetiously gave the answer

if Sandra Oh is the most consistent icon but I guess she's not an icon I guess I mean you gotta say I'm gonna say you can't say Gaga I'm not gonna say Gaga I'm gonna say why can't he say Gaga because she's not consistent

because it wasn't consistent it's not not amazing but it's not consistent. Because it wasn't consistent. Okay. It's not not amazing. Right. But it's not consistent. Okay. What was her lowest point? Art pop. A lot of people would disagree. Wow.

You know, I think her outside hijinks around the art pop era. Her extracurriculars. Her extracurricular activities around the art pop era. I do agree. Because she came to school with a good project. I do agree. You know what I mean? It was the fact that she was smoking cigarettes outside that got her in

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But say what you were saying. Well, I'm really drawing a blank here, but I want to say, out of all fields, and this is such a boring answer, but I guess Meryl. Meryl Streep. But she's not even, she's had slip-ups too.

Fucking Ricky and the Flash. That's literally what I was going to say. That wasn't her fault. That wasn't her fault. That was Diablo Cody's fault. Okay fault okay okay and god bless diablo oscar you give your answer what is who is the icon who will the more the most consistent icon yeah girl the most consistent icon to me is not it's it's mini mouse girl it's like a cartoon character we just okay that brand is like brand perfect parameters were not set okay well then

what well then what well then what first of all i'm pissed at minnie mouse daisy duck bitch that's a true icon who shut the fuck up name one thing about daisy duck or minnie mouse that is like personal the brand honey the brand well they're fucking cartoon characters so what they're not they can't be legendary if they're not if they're not minnie mouse is anti-feminist minnie mouse minnie mouse is the male gaze it's the male gaze how dare you minnie mouse and daisy duck are not sentient beings who can make decisions about their careers and their creative their creative pursuits okay no no that's not true because donald and mickey. And that is the male game.

And yet they've risen above. Honey, there are... Honey, this is... When is her album coming out? She don't need an album. Walt Disney... She's Minnie Mouse. She doesn't need to come up with an album. She's fine.

She's fine the way she is. Walt Disney... She's gonna be wearing her polka dot dress, looking cute as fuck. Okay, she's gonna wear a bow around her head and be like, I'm snatched for the gods, darlings. Her bow's askew.

Thank you. Her bow's askew. Listen you. Her bow's askew. Listen, honey. Walt Disney snatched the rib from Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck and crafted a female version of his own image. Why do you have to make a religious girl? Why'd you have to go there? Why'd you have to go there?

Here's the icon who has been consistent. It's Jesus Christ. Yeah, he's right. And you can't say anything about Jesus. Not on this weekend, honey. A true, consistent icon. Jesus Christ. H. Christ.

Mary. Mother Mary. Mother Mary, honey. She stayed consistent throughout the years. Let's look into our religious icons for guidance now. Oh, I have one. RuPaul. RuPaul.

But has RuPaul been consistent? Star Booty. She looked pretty rough when she was on Project Runway. Project Runway! Thank you. Oh my gosh. She did look so... She looked like sick, actually.

I was like worried for her. But you know what, though? It's better that she had rough times. Oh, sure. RuPaul, because that's why we need Ru so badly. It's because we know she's seen the dark. The thing is, with Beyonce, and you could say this works against her relatability, which I know is not the point of Beyonce.

She is supposed to stand for perfection. But sure, we haven't seen her slip up. And like, I don't know. It's like even when it would be impossible not to. She hasn't. I'm just, you know, not not that I'm against Beyonce at all because I I'm not. I do think she's sickening. I'm just so tired of her being the go-to answer.

Oh, sure. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And also, but you asked about consistency, and consistency and perfection, I believe, do live in the same world. If we're talking about consistently, in terms of what they bring and they always bring that,

I think pretty pretty much rihanna's always been on brand she's always giving you messy ass re yeah yeah that's always but people don't feel that as much as they feel beyonce beyonce is just like a universal yes this is good rihanna's like this is good but like hmm hmm hmm hmm who is consistently inconsistent in like all over the fucking places Demi Lovato and you gotta give props claps to Demi Lovato for never figuring her shit out but still being

fun to listen to I have to say I don't think it's okay to come for Demi I'm not coming for her Bowen is not coming for Demi do you think she's no fun. Bowen is not coming for Demi. You don't think she's,

do you think she's no fun? It's praise. You didn't say she is. It's praise. I'm saying she's still interesting to watch because it's like, girl, you got to stop announcing

your retirement from the industry when you keep coming out with these new albums. She just doesn't know what she wants. Exactly. And it's fine. And it's okay.

She's human. You didn't think that her top in the Who For The Summer music video was not the top of the year? Yeah, you know what? I watched that video three times in a row and thought I liked girls. Okay, I mean.

How could that suck? My mental. Because of Demi? I was like, do I want to fuck Demi? Or do I want to fuck her top? I'm so sorry. I forgot about my mental list of tops of the year. Oscar, we're going to ask you finally the question we ask all of our guests.

But. This question is a big question. Oscar we're going to ask you finally the question we ask all of our guests but this question is a big question and take your time okay Oscar am I saying that right Oscar this question is

what is the culture that you as a young Oscar hope I'm saying that right made you say I want to step in a cultural direction. What was the culture that defined Oscar Montoya? That made Oscar Montoya say, culture is for me. Oscar Montoya, he was like, okay, I'm influenced

in this moment, and this will change or alter the course of my life. Oscar Montoya took in something and said, I think culture is a part of me, and I can never imagine living without culture. Is he saying that, Oscar Montoya? Yeah, can you say that again?

Oscar Montoya. Okay, that's close enough. Montoya. Montoya. I will say that I got, in college, I got a dance award because I was a dancer in college. He's a dancer to this day. Oh, girl, come on.

Okay. They gave me a plaque that was like oh the answer of the year they spelled my name oscar montaya and i was livid montaya girl i was like this is not fair i worked so hard and they misspelled my name anyway um i just i just want to preface by saying that I, as a human being, only communicate through pop culture. Pop culture is running through my veins as we speak. Yes, God. Okay?

This is a true culture, Asta. I am a vessel of media. You know what I mean? Like, that's how I communicate with people. When people say, I didn't grow up with a TV. Delete. Goodbye. Delete.

Because we just won't talk. That's it. Bless up. People who say, I don't like music. Goodbye. Forever. How dare you. Bless up. People who say, I don't like music, goodbye forever. How dare you? Are you even a human being? I don't like music. You've heard people say that.

I did. There was a crazy kid in my elementary school who said he didn't like music. And then I checked back in with him in high school and he still didn't like music. And I was like, you know what? Forget it. I mean, what is that? And they're always crazy. All of them.

So you communicate in pop culture. I do. And I'll tell you why. And I'll tell you why. Because I was not born in America. I'm an immigrant. I was born in Colombia. And I was born in a village in Colombia.

Dirt roads. I remember when I was six, we had a black and white box huge ass box tv and it was like my life changed forever okay and i would watch um baywatch nights not the original but the spin-off baywatch nights happened that night obsessed with it because it like you know flirted with paranormal stuff and i was just like obsessed that 90s tv show the renegade obsessed these were all shows that my grandma loved watching so i loved watching you know what i mean paranormal stuff and i was just like obsessed that 90s tv show the renegade obsessed these were all shows that my grandma loved watching so i loved watching you know what i mean yeah that's the kind of media that i consumed um so then coming here as like a like a tween i would

say um that's all i want all i want i was just obsessed with media culture culture, TV, you know, movies, music, video games. It was like, you know, and especially American media. Just like all about it. So, I mean, you want to talk about it? Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it, girl. That's exactly why you're here.

Okay, honey, you are a true culturista. Like, look at this. This episode is already a special one. We just went right into it, honey. Oh, we did. We went right into it, honey. Oh, we did. We went right into it even before this got recorded. And we're plunging even further. Yes, we are.

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That everybody saw. Oscar, what got you into dancing i don't even think i really know this about you oh dancing i did it in colombia i did something called cumbia which is like the kind of folkloric dancing of um colombia um and it was like very cute i have pictures where i'm just like whatever um and then when i came here you know there was no you're a cute twirling i. I was twirling, darling. When I moved here, they didn't really have that. So I was like, you know, I found like modern contemporary movement.

And I was like, oh, that speaks to me. And then that's something that I've done, you know, until I discovered comedy. And then that all went out the window. And how did you discover comedy? A roommate of mine, his name was Chopper and that's a name I gave him because he wanted people to take him more seriously.

So I was like, just change your name. He wanted people to take him more seriously so you gave him the name Chopper. Yes, ma'am. Because you were iconicizing him. That's wrong.

And Matt gets it. Matt Roger gets it. You can't be born into this world. So let me tell you something. His name is Christian Jacobs, which by all means is a normal sort of okay name. But with a name like Chopper,

which he still goes by to this day. Do you know what I mean? I identify because I was born with the name Matt Rogers and I have had to fight. Yeah. And now it's a household name, darling. I have had to fight. Yeah.

You're a fighter. It's okay. I have had to fight with this name. That I fighter. It's okay. I have had to fight with this thing. That I have. Because when you type in the Google search, you see a lot of people. A lot. And one of them is an American Idol contestant.

And one of them is a horribly offensive comedy singer. What does that mean, comedy singer? There's a song called Suck my suck on my suck on my cock to the tune of jingle bell rock to the tune of jingle bell rock let's sing it guys come on all together suck on my suck on my suck on my cock no

it's not even suck on my cock it's suck on my cock he doesn't even get the rhythm right and then to tell people that I do musical sketch that like music is a part of my comedy and they search and they're like well this must be it oh my god no that is not that's not true to your my cock isn't necessarily just the title it's not necessarily off brand no it's not it's pretty adjacent so it's like okay i'm a little every day I do panic about it. But anyway, back to you. Chopper.

Chopper. Comedy. Chopper, I was roommates with him. And here's the thing. I was performing, but I also had really bad stage fright. And also social anxiety. And my roommate at Chopper was like, you should take an improv class.

And I'm like, no, no, no. I do not do comedy. I'm not a funny person. No no um i can't like there's no i don't i didn't know what improv was yeah like none of that you didn't associate as a funny person you know never no no no no never never never never that was never part of my gig ever ever um and he was like no i think it's good because it'll make you feel comfortable around people and it'll just like loosen you up around people. And not a lot of comedians are taking these classes. There's like lawyers and accountants and all that, teachers.

And I'm like, okay, great. So I took a class, my first ever class with the goddess Betsy Stover. At UCB. At UCB. And hated it. Not because of Betsy. She was so great. But because of Betsy she was so great but because everyone in that class was so thirsty to be on SNL you know what I mean like this is like 101 class people don't even know how to talk to each other and they're like I want to be Will Ferrell you know

and I'm just like I want to like just talk to people so like freaked me out it scared me and then I just kind of stopped doing it because i was like this is not for me this is terrifying but the whole time i was just obsessed with it i couldn't stop thinking about it just like the intricacies of like what improv is the fact that you're like creating something made up like there's no script at all i was just like i went to every show i was just like obsessed. For two years. I didn't do improv, but I watched it all the time. After two years, I was like, what am I doing?

Like, I have to go back. Like, I got to do this. I got to do this. So I went to a place called the People's Improv Theater and changed my life. I took one class there with Kevin Scott and it changed my life. Every single thing made sense to me. Wow. And it totally turned my world upside down.

I learned how to be more comfortable with myself. I learned how to be more comfortable with myself around people. I wasn't afraid of like judgment or anything. I stopped being scared of myself and my voice and started just being myself. My most comfortable, gay, brown-ass self. Yes.

And it cultivated this sort of confidence on stage that I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever would have thought I had. Oh, that makes me so happy. And now I do comedy. That's my... And now you're the Oprah of improv.

Bitch, this is real. Because the first time I ever met Oscar was at a show at the Magnet called No Place Like Home. That's right. And it was the week of my Story Pirates audition. I was just out of college. I was miserable. I had no fucking idea what I was doing. Yes.

Got invited to play at the show by Andrew Fafutakis. Hi, Andrew. Hi. And saw Oscar on stage and I was like, oh, that guy is so fucking funny. And look at his tattoos, and look at his hat. He's so cool. Yeah. Instant star.

Instant star. Oh, my God. You never forget Oscar. I did my set, and then Oscar came up to me and was like, hey, that was really funny. I'm Oscar. I'm about one of you. What do you do? What's your deal?

And I was like, oh, I'm auditioning for Story Pirates tomorrow, and I don't know how it's going to go, but I'm excited. And you were like, oh, I'm auditioning for Story Pirates tomorrow. And I don't know how it's going to go. But I'm excited. And you were like, well, great. Good luck. Whatever. Have fun. Said something very encouraging, I'm sure.

But I forget. But then after I got on, I remember you were one of the first people to reach out and say, congrats. I'm so excited for you. And from there, this friendship blossomed. But it was like like you clock that as an audience member or even as a performer just being like that person yes and to hear you say that you to hear you say that you like were this reticent shy in your shell person before is like

crazy oh my god i remember my very first class you know we go around and we talk about ourselves i had such a severe stutter i could not even say my own name i would never oh yes yes uh yes closeted at this time no girl yeah right no i well i don't know can you contain this honey can you contain it we don't know no bitch she said she had a stutter she proclaimed that she had a stutter i don't know know, bitch. No, girl, I was out. I was out. I was out at a very early age, okay? Honey.

I was out. Okay, so this is the real tea. I was out. Four years old doing cute kumya in the hills. She's four years old doing kumya in the hills, working it out down. That's right. That's right.

The Colombian sound of music, honey. Yes. The hills are alive with the sounds of kumya. Holy boy. Title ofumya title of app the hills are alive with the sounds of kumya okay cool continue thanks no but i was in college i was out i was telling i mean i was gay i was a fucking you know what i mean yeah and i was still dating girls i'm still dating girls because that's just the way i i don't know because the girl you know i don't know how it is for you guys but the girls are always thirsty for boys do you know what i mean they were always still they were pursuing me still and i was like

i'm not gonna say no so i was dating these girls i mean like i don't know it's a dark time in my past you know what i mean the girls were thirsty for me freshman year. And then I think I really settled into who I really was sophomore year. And all of a sudden, I just didn't get interest anymore. Isn't that interesting how sometimes no one is interested in me? Bowen, shut up. Oh, my God. No, I'm just kidding. Did you ever have a girlfriend moment?

No, never. Never? Never. Who was your first kiss? I had girls. Oh, first kiss was... No, I don't want to say this. Come on, say it.

Oh, come on, you must. No, I can't. Come on. Inquiring minds want to know, okay? My first kiss was this girl named Laura Noblock. And she was very... But it was just kind of a... It was like a half joke.

Oh, my God, you guys. In middle school, this is all coming back to me. These kids at my lunch table, who i thought were my friends this is i'm sorry this is like the third traumatic school story i've shared on this podcast but um uh just throughout the episodes but uh these kids at my lunch table knew i had such a huge crush on this girl beth west and so why why did you have a crush on her she was just so i mean? Why did you have a crush on her? Part of it was that she was athletic and a little bit butch.

I 100% with you, sister. She was this half-Asian beauty. She was also just a beautiful person. She was so funny. We sat at the lunch table together every day and thought they were my friends, and then the entire lunch table decided to be fun

to pay Beth to ask me out and date me for a week. Girl, that is a similar tale to mine. Tell me, spill. Oh my God. Junior high school, eighth grade, I had this girl, Vanessa. I don't know what the fuck her name was. She had big-

We'll call her Vanessa Vanessa. Vanessa Monroe. Vanessa Monroe. That's right. Vanessa Monroe. She was like a very, let's say, developed girl. Her boobs were gigantic. I mean, like novelty size boobs.

Titters down. Titters down, honey. Titters down. Titters the house down. And she asked me out out and I was like, yeah, of course. Sure. We dated for three days

and this other girl, Elizabeth Solero, who I actually had a crush on because she didn't give a shit about anything and her favorite movie was Empire Records and at the time

I was just like, yes, she gets me. She came up to me and she's like, you know it's a joke, right? It's a dare. Vanessa dated you because they dared her to date you. God damn it. But yes, not to co-opt this story from you or this experience, but we share a common bond.

What a monstrous thing to do. Kids are demons. Kids are the worst. They really are. So when you started succeeding in improv in terms of the way you felt you were personally succeeding as a person, so then you dove back into classes. Yes? Fair to say?

Yes. And then talk about the rise of you. Of Oscar. Because you really did become someone everyone knew. Bitch-owned it. I don't know. Yes. I don't know.

I don't know. I can't answer that. Well, I can say that you did. Do you think that it was just because they did? Do you think that it was I just turned the mic and it went? Anyway, do you think it was because you were emanating a confidence and a positivity? And can you speak to that? I think that's what it is.

Here's the thing, too. When I was starting to do comedy like 50 years ago, I started a long time ago. There was no one like me. So I thought my sort of comedy is not valid. The things that I see on stage are the only things that are funny with a capital F, right? To me, that's not the way that I spoke or communicated. So that meant, like, if this is true, then what? Like, then I am not funny.

Right. Message received. Message received, right? Like, we saw the same kind of people. And you know what kind of people I'm talking about on that stage. Talking the same language, speaking the exact same way way and having everyone just laugh uproariously when I would just be like I do not get this uh-huh do you know what I mean yeah so I was like oh my I am not valid I'm not I don't exist in this world and that's fine um I'm gonna find something else you know what i mean but when the moment where i was like okay was when i saw people

like jeff hitler jeff great bless up someone named uh jess allen jess allen from the people's improv theater do you know what i mean likearies. Like, literally stand out. They really do, like, stand out, like, because their humor is so different. Yes. That you're like, wait a second. They're freaks. They're weirdos. Just like me. Oh, but they own it.

And I understand this. Do you know what I mean? Preach. I've seen people like that make moves where no one laughs except for me. Do you know what I mean? But it's still. But you know what? They're up there.

And it's valid. Yes. And it counts. We gotta get deep into this. And we gotta take a break. Yes. So we're gonna come right back. Because this is the tea.

This is the tea. This is the true tea. I love that. This is amazing. Okay. And we're gonna be right back with Oscar Montoya. This is the E! True Hollywood Story. E! True Hollywood Story.

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I hate to interrupt. Yeah. break about um you know just how i hate to interrupt but it's been what like 45 an hour and matt has not touched his muffin his pina colada muffin it's still sort of just there and it's shocking to me how i ate some of the muffin on the break i didn't want to have my mouth full and be quote unquote masticating which is a Bowen Yang ass vocabulary word if I ever heard one SAT perfect. It's a real word Matt. I don't know why you're putting it in quotes. Please. It's disgusting.

I would say Matt Rogers is literally slapping the face of Latin American culture by not eating this peanut colada muffin. How is that so? Because we went to a coffee shop around the corner that producer Brett and Amy recommended called Tiramia. It was

gorgeous. Tiramia! I literally as I've been eating it and I've been savoring it use that on the SATs. Savor S-A-V-O-R SAT word. I've been thinking to myself what a gag this muffin is. Okay well then honey

let's all try some. Okay, let's all try some. Do you mind? I don't mind at all. Okay. And also, I mean, I'm loving the strawberry lemonade tea. Do I think I ordered too big of a size? Yeah, but I do love it. You know what?

I'm having a hard time tasting the pineapple. I taste the coconut. I taste the coconut. What the heck, man? It's good. What? I love the muffin. I'm not saying that I don't love the coconut. What the heck, man? It's good. What? I love the muffin. I'm not saying that I don't love the muffin.

I'm just saying if it's a pina colada muffin, where's the pineapple? Where's the pineapple? But no, Oscar clocked Matt earlier for not loving the muffin enough and for not touching it. You didn't eat the muffin top. The muffin top had a lot of good pina colada flavor. Okay. Okay. I was shocked when we walked into the shop and it had said pina colada.

Yeah, you were like, I must. I was like, I have to order that. Matt lit shop and it said pina colada. Yeah, you were like, I must. I was like, I have to order that. Matt lit up and he said, I have to. I actually can't be at a restaurant without ordering a pina colada if they offer it. That's your drink of choice? That's my jam. Pina colada over a Bloody Mary? Uh-oh.

I know Matt so well. Here's the thing about Bloody Mary, though. It's a meal. This is a good sun moment, okay? Which one are you going to drop off a cliff? The pina colada or the Bloody Mary? Commonly, when you go into a restaurant and you ask for a Bloody Mary, they act as if you're giving them a hard time.

Whereas a pina colada very commonly will come from a machine, ready-made, with the liquor already in it, or it's just not a big deal to put the liquor in the glass. I very rarely see people have to put shit in the blender and actually make a pina colada anymore. Places that serve pina coladas have them

ready to go. Whereas a Bloody Mary you kind of have to put that together. You can have the mix and a thing but you still got to put the alcohol in and you have to garnish and it's it's a whole it's a whole adventure land so what i'm saying to this question is i would always rather have a bloody mary where no matter where i am however it's a difficult question because i'm sometimes as someone that's in the industry at a restaurant, I don't want to fuck with them.

Also, I don't ever want to deal with being the person that's that person at the restaurant. I never, ever want to be the person that's keeping the waiter standing there which I said to you yesterday at brunch. Girl, you read me yesterday. You read me

for Phil. Because not for nothing, but that was a frustrating situation. Girl, but you don't understand. There is anxiety there when I have to order because I truly don't know. I paralyze when there's too many choices. I understand. And at a diner, it's like that is where I am tested, okay? Because it's too many. Like just tell me what to eat and I will eat it as long as there's no onions or peppers

because I hate eating those things. You know what? I have a feeling I'm going to talk about this in a little while that's all I'll say about that okay okay let's put a pin on that and let's move on took a turn honey I was I was about to like literally exalt at the feet of Oprah improv which is oi which is the opposite of io but then he had stopped me and disrespected me about my muffin eating on my own show. He has disrespected.

He has disrespected at the hands and feet of the host. And this is... I will not apologize. Let that be fuel to the fire. We are co-hosts, and as a co-host, how do you feel that he just turned in disrespected?

He did not. I can acknowledge that. He put you in a tough place. He's putting me in a very. Bowen, Matt put you in a tough place. Matt, my co-host could be disrespecting me. But Oscar, you came for Oscar with his behavior at the diner yesterday. You came for me.

But Oscar had to defend himself. You came for me. his behavior at the diner yesterday. You came for me. But Oscar had to defend himself. Had to defend himself. And for you to feel disrespected at a rightful retort is disrespectful. There's no excuse for your behavior yesterday. And also, I'm going to call her out, Rachel Chapman. That giggling and laughing was out of control. And I was right on the brink.

I was right on the brink. There was no reason for her to be laughing like that. I understand that it's part of Rachel Chapman. That's just part of her brand, though. The waiter turned to her and said, are you ready? And she laughed. And it was inexcusable. But damn, girl, you like John Malkovich the shit out of that.

You like went into the body of that waiter. And like, you're like living his story right now. I live his story every Saturday. I live his entire story. Yeah. Walk us through. Who lives, who dies, who tells their story? If it has to be me.

Oh, no. Oh, okay. Okay. If it has to be me, it will be me. If the end of my life is telling the story of a server, that is my cross to bear. A story like mine has never been told. Oh, boy. There's a story behind that fucking quote which we cannot

share if we cannot why we why can't we i mean we could should we i just want to say this short story the short version of the story is um matt and i and david mazzoni uh previous uh guest of the pod was david he was there and john saccolo and john saccolo we just did a show in chicago with popper lat years ago this is like three or four years ago. A long time ago. And then we went to Berlin, famous Chicago gay nightclub. And David and Matt had sort of paired off with these two

strangers. And Matt has this whole fucking journey with the guy that he was with. But basically, I went back alone to the place where we were staying at, John's place. And Matt and I were sharing a bed. But that night, I just had it to myself. I was like, great.

And then at four in the fucking morning. That's late. I wake up to Matt crawling over me, wasted. And then he leans down and whispers into my ear, a story like mine has never been told. I did not do it in the accent. And I pushed him off me and screamed bloody murder. Let's just say, let's just say it's a miracle.

I'm not dead. It's a miracle. I'm not dead. It was like an episode of girls, but like probably if Lena Dunham wrote this episode for her character and passed it into HBO, they'd be like, no, this didn't happen. Wow. Anyway, how do we get into this? A story like My Name is Zerubin told the servers.

I want to keep exalting at the feet of Oscar Montoya. Montaya. Oh, that. Oh. Montanya. Yes. Listen, I think there's so much to this idea of like when you're having fun that they're having fun and i finally learned that like i think amy poehler said it and that's what

it was like super clear to me but it was becoming very clear to me when there was people in my life honestly oscar like you like josh and aaron um you know people that i really looked up to um that were succeeding and all of a sudden it just clicked to me it was like oh wow yeah like you can't give a fuck you just have to do you yeah and that's that's got to be what it's all about here's the thing too we respect individual voices it's not it's not even about like liking or disliking we respect the voices yeah that we know are true to them i'm sure there are plenty of people who don't necessarily like what i do like or like or matt or oscar do and that's fine but like hopefully there is that base level of at least respect with like staying true to some something about us you actually really influenced me um as a director

when you said oh my god i remember this yeah you were like you're gonna come over here and then what you're gonna do is fill your fantasy and i was like oh my god and something happened where i was like i'm just gonna literally create my fantasy yeah and i was like wow if i think it's funny and i look confident doing it like that's your fantasy it's about creating an experience it's about creating um the fun but your fun you know what i mean like feel your fantasy and it feels real and authentic and it's good to even say that out loud it's really good to even say that out loud and remind yourself you have to feel your fantasy. And I give that note a lot

when I'm directing. Girl, because that's the note. I tell the young pirates. Because that's the note. Does it work? That is the note. It works to the people that are going to get it. And people that are ready to hear it. Yes. Some people don't even know what their fantasy is. But that's part of the journey. Exactly. It's like solidifying that fantasy

and just living in it. You know who feels their fantasy too and lives in their fantasy, which we have to get on, is Mike Kelton. Mike Kelton. Mike Kelton feels his fantasy all the time. Oh my God. I love it. It's so fun.

And he actually, when I started to do, I did a character one time at, I think it was Ethnic Realness. And I did this character and he was there. Maybe he was also doing the show. And I got off and he came over to me and all he said was, he would never remember this, but he was like,

I just want you to know it's working. It's working. Keep doing it. He's like, keep doing it. It's working. And that meant so much to me because I was like, yeah, I mean,

this person is someone who is unapologetically themselves. Oh, for sure. And it's working. And so the fact that he told me that, I was like thank god oh for sure yes but it's it's like that and then to see like you're you're like big sisters doing that like that's very encouraging oh for sure and i mean we've we've been we've been seeing the the people who don't live that way who like will project this identity and then just like

play to that sort of thing and it just reads as artificial it's not true and it feels like work and the last thing I want to see someone on stage doing is working I don't want to see people working on stage that's not fun

I need to see people living their lives on stage that's all that's all I want to see people living their lives on stage. That's all. That's all I want to see. It's not about funny. It's not about clever. It's not about smart. It really is all about watching people have the most fun on that stage for as long as they can

and just being swept up in their fantasy. The truth. Do you know what I mean? That's literally it. You have to feel your fantasies, part one. Part two, gag yourself. Be your own gag. Rule number one of culture. Feel your fantasy.

Rule number two of culture. Gag yourself. Be your own gag. That's it. This is when the inevitable book comes out. There will be a book. There'll be a pamphlet, honey. There's a pamphlet.

We're going to be the first people to successfully sell a pamphlet. That's right. This will be the... Selling culture. Since Thomas Paine. Since Common Sense. Since Common Sense.

That's right. Oh my God. Aim for the stars, Bowen. Honey, we're going to start a revolution. Yes. I just feel like that there's so much to that. Now, switching gears. Okay.

That fast. Last night, and this is literally filling your fantasy. Last night, we did an escape the room. Oh, yes. An escape. An escape extravaganza. An escape the room. Have you ever done an escape the room? I have have done i've done a couple of escape the rooms and honey to mix reviews to mixed reviews this is what we were this is this is your first one first one ever for me wow this is like my fourth one okay but once

as soon as we told oscar what we did last night we were very enthusiastically uh to him we said we didn't escape the room last night it was so fun we should do one this week oscar don't do it raised his brow don't do it i don't know about that don't do that tell us what's the tea what do you mean what's the tea what's the shade it's not about the shade it's not about it's not about the escape the room it really isn't it's about the people and escape the room because it can be the best experience and also the most taxing journey you'll ever have. People's true selves are shown. Because it is about how you play this.

It's about how you play the escape the room. Do you play the escape the room to literally escape the room? Or do you play escape the room to just kiki with your friends? I kiki with my friends. And some people who play to escape the room do not appreciate the way I play. And so then, you know, riffs happen. So what are you saying? You would deliberately sabotage i don't know girl don't read me like

that but girl i'm not reading you i'm just saying like wouldn't you say that you play different how is there else to play different besides not trying to win no it's just like getting caught up in like the detail for me it's like you know there's like things to look at i'm i'm like i'm gagging in that world i'm like submerged in that world so i get lost i'm like oh look at this little thing oh my gosh and they're like oscar pay attention and i'm just like okay in a minute but right now i'm really looking at these decorative tiki cups you know what i mean you can do both if you because i feel like last night was both because we were with a couple people that were like legit going for it meanwhile they said over

the speakers like hey guys if you find five eggs you win a free game so i was like amazing you guys do the puzzle i'll look for the eggs how i play that's me that's me and also there's a part of me too like something about like just just games or any sort of competitive thing does bring out a thing that was dormant in a lot of of my friends you know and you're just like oh i didn't know you this way right and then they turn into like little monsters you know and i'm just like oh i oh whoa bowen snapped at me three times during the game i did not i feel like matt you know what though not to push you under the bus but i feel like this is this this will be your um frankenstein monster moment like i feel like you would turn into a beast in these escape the rooms.

In my defense, let me just say, last night I really felt like I struck the proper balance between having fun with my friends and just doing it for the sake of doing it and having fun in this teamwork exercise and working towards the goal of leaving the room. Now, I am shocked

at this allegation that I snapped at Matt. There was no such thing happened. Matt, how dare you? When I was turning the key. Oh, my goodness. And we've been through it with keys this week. Because earlier in the week, Bowen, I had the keys and was opening the door.

And he goes, wrong key, buddy. No. Buddy? I have never heard you say the word buddy he called me buddy and i said to him and i quote don't call me buddy you condescending bitch i have never heard you say buddy ever think about that fucking quote i just very nicely was like hey wrong key buddy and he no he you know he did i know that And then Matt says, just Matt's pretty hammered at this point, he goes, don't call me buddy,

you condescending bitch. And here's the thing, we both meant every word that we said, and then it was fine two seconds later. But in that moment, I was like, how fucking dare you? Okay, but in an escaping room,

when did I ever snap at you? There were a couple times where you were just getting on edge. No! It wasn't about me, but I could tell that it didn't help that it was me because other people that were in the room i don't think you would have been comfortable being like no no no this it was you but because it was me you had you felt comfortable which is fine you felt comfortable being like matt no that do it

that way and i was like okay okay wow this is all about airing laundry between the two of you, huh? Dirty laundry. I'm not. Dirty laundry. Listen, I'm not like, I'm not letting this stick to me, but like, it didn't really happen like that. I don't know. What was your version of the event?

You were futzing around with the keys. We had limited time left. I go, Matt, it's not that one. Other set. Futsing around with the keys. That had limited time left. I go, Matt, it's not that one. Other set. Fussing around with the keys. That's tricky vocabulary, Bowen. No, literally it didn't bother me because I was doing the wrong key. So I needed to be told. And there was one moment where I don't know. I don't remember the specifics. But anyway, it did happen a couple of times

where I was like, it doesn't matter to me at all. But like, did I clock that? It was like definitely Bowen Bowen's voice. I was like, okay, cool. He's getting a little bit on edge with me.

Okay. But I will. Okay. It was my first time. See, this is a lot of stress, a lot of stress that we don't need. I'm not stressed.

I'm only blessed. I'm only blessed. Bless up. Look, Oscar, I agree with you, but also there are some people out there in the third category who are just a hybrid of both, and I put myself in that

bucket. Okay, great. That's nice. I think the three of us would slay. I think so, too. Yes. How many people were in that room with you? Eight. It was too many. Exactly. Yeah. That's the thing. But we still made it out. We still made it out. We should say we did make it out. We had 75 minutes to make it out we made it out in six it was the hardest room in the entire uh come for the what was the thing it was okay so it was great wait what's the

place let's plug it uh i think it's called 60 escape or something 60 room or something like that uh it's on it's on okay very vague plague it's on santa monica boulevard um and yeah that's it uh so anyway um there's one called grandma's house that was grandma's house so you go in it's Plague, plague. It's on Santa Monica Boulevard. And yeah, that's it. So anyway. There's one called Grandma's House. That was the theme. Grandma's House. So you go in.

It's this really nice, quaint, funny little grandma's kitchen, living room situation. And grandma's left you a letter. She says, I'm so sorry. I can't see you. But after your grandfather Cecil died, I've been working on my last project. But blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I can't come back to the house, so can you help me hang the pictures?

And that's when it starts. And that's when it starts. And then you find out. Don't reveal too much. I don't want to reveal too much, but as you go. You took this, this is the room that you went to? This is the room we were in last night. But then as you, there's multiple rooms

that you work through. And then a storyline unfolds that ends in a robbery of some sort. And it's very exciting. And they played the music while it was happening to make you feel like you were in a movie and everything. Oh, that's my favorite part. Yeah. And honestly, that's I think what the gag was. It was like the Disney little boy in me was like that wants to feel that fantasy.

And I felt very involved. Oh, for sure. Oh, it's like you're plugged into a movie at that moment. And the stakes are fucking high. Yes. And so now we're kind of trying to find, we want to do another one while we're here. And we're trying to figure out whether to do a scary one or not.

Yes. The answer is yes. Our friend Colin sent us a listing for one called The Basement, where it's literally like a fucking serial killer has bound and gagged you and he's thrown you in his basement. Oh, and also he's a cannibal. Work your way out. And it's like, oh shit,

but maybe that's something that's happened to people. I don't know. But it's fun. It's scary. I went to one. Live actors. I love that.

Yeah, anyway. I think we should do it. I think we should all do it. Yeah, I think so. I think Pop Roulette's gonna be here soon in LA and we're gonna do it. There was one should all do it. Yeah, I think. I think Pop Roulette's going to be here soon in L.A. We're going to do it. There was one that I went to where it was like mental asylum. And I think it was just called asylum.

And it was like everyone had to get out of the room. But they were like, OK, one of you has to be locked into a straitjacket. So while they're doing while we're doing the puzzles, you have to also. And I volunteered. I was like me. Oh, great. Because, you know, I am very like distracted by everything so I was like oh this is a fun way to give me like a task yeah I'm very like good if

you tell me what to do you know what I mean so I was like okay let me get in there I got in the in the straight jacket I was like great so no one's gonna be mad at me if I don't do the work because I'm busy I could always be like the straight jacket girl I got out of that straight jacket in like two seconds because you couldn't handle I just moved my arms around that's it no it was the easiest part they locked it but like the way a straight jacket is like you can literally just raise your arms and then you're and then like sort of just like step out of the straight jacket without unlocking the lock wow so then I was just like okay okay here we go here we go but you know whatever that was really fun.

And so you were not gagged for that one. There were moments, peaks and valleys. You're saying it's all about the people. It's all about the people. But premises matter too, because there's apparently one that's an old,

failed record studio. But sometimes premises will disappoint you. Sure. Sometimes it's just like, ooh, the setup is perfect. And then if it ends in just a big fart, you're just like... Like in comedy.

Sure. You can ruin a premise. That's the tea. That's truly the tea. And if it ends in a fart, that's how you know it sucks. Yep, and then that's when the edit comes and you're just like, I'm so sorry. Right. But what Oscar was saying about the people being like, either they are very goal-oriented

to a fault, or they just want to have fun and kinky with their friends applies to stage applies to the stage. Oh, for sure. Man, it was such a, I, now I'm thinking,

looking back, it's like, was it a really good experience? Because honestly, the eight of us that were in there, like a couple of us knew each other really well, but like there was people in the group that I don't know very well. And I wonder if that put the focus on the task

instead of like, oh, this person's gonna be this kind of person in there. And I know I'm gonna butt heads with them. But, so that's interesting. That's interesting. Oh. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like if we went with our close friends, the personalities would emerge and we all know the dynamics so it's like you would see that play out our friend Click is filled with strong personalities 100p

there's no one with a passive personality well yeah actually but the thing is maybe it was my first is because it's my first time but thinking about like how your true colors come out in the escape the room i kind of surprised myself last night because i really was letting other people do everything you thought you were going to be more it's not about letting it's more about like other people were doing something and i was kind of like very much not jumping ahead. Like I was the kind of person where when a door would open,

I'd be the one to run to the door and say, it opened. Yeah, great. Okay, so let's think about it this way. In these escape the rooms, like the music is playing, you know what I mean? You feel like you're in a movie, right? And like, it is like a movie. And with that being said,

like what character would you play in this movie in an escape the room sort of situation? First victim, Drew Barrymore. Really? That's me. That's my goal. That's interesting. That's a gag because I would say that you'd be like, okay, guys, focus up.

Let's think of a plan. I feel like you'd be very much that person. Well, you know what? Maybe here's the thing. I take back my answer. I think i'm very much i'm very in my heart i'm very much a director yes so i guess like i would be the kind of person that like if i felt like something was going askew i would be like can we just focus back up

for a second because we need to do this like i feel like if i were you'd corral everybody yeah and that doesn't mean that i would necessarily be the one figuring out what to do. But I feel like in terms of keeping people on task, that is my personality. And I do make decisions. Right. But that's not, I mean, that's just in my ordinary life. I don't know. Escape the room is different. What about you, Oscar?

I feel like I'd be the person who wouldn't say a single thing until everyone is stumped. And then I would say something. And that's when I would activate. Do you know what I mean? I'd be that kind of player. I mean, that's, that's the kind of player I am in these sort of escape the room things.

When people, when too many people are talking, I'm just like, okay, that literally too many cooks in the kitchen. I will not participate until people are just like, we don't know what to do. Then I'm like,

okay, now, now I'm of use. Do you know what I mean? So yeah. What about you bone? I'm a thirsty little fuck for attention. So I...

No. I'm just trying to think like, okay, how would I behave in an improv group game? And I feel like in group games, I'm always like, no, I have the best fucking zinger, which is real. And like,

back when I used to do improv, I feel like that behavior... Well, you do have the best zingers, though. No, no, no, no no no no that's not the point um i want but part of me the way i behaved last night was very like i'm gonna pour over the small details that just for clues i'm gonna help i'm gonna be that tech support in a way i was like there was like the for in the in the grandma room like there was just a bunch of cookbooks and i just like flipped through every page just to see if there was something and i was like okay you guys figured that stupid puzzle out while i figure out like if there's anything in here that we can gather he's very detail-oriented

i was just like i was just like researchy yeah in that research mode that's not a behavior necessarily no it is and it's very helpful and that's the reason and you actually did you actually were very hands-on and detail-oriented and like you were getting the minutiae in like for example i think my personality is more big decisions and choices and then the group kind of goes

and does that thing but I'm very rarely the person that's in the trenches figuring it out. Right, right, right. Like for example, like I'm the quote unquote

director of Papa Roulette but like in terms of what makes the group, like in terms of the specifics, what makes the group shine, like everyone else specifics what makes the group shine like everyone else has like more specific tasks than I do you think big picture you think

very much details yeah that's great this is a good combination the two of you maybe you both should do escape room together and like see how you fare could we do a two person one yeah there are two people people do it by themselves oh god there are people who ones. People do it by themselves.

There are people who go in by themselves. That's bold. That I don't think would be very fun. No. Our producer Brett's laughing because he just thinks it's sad as hell. I don't know. I'm obsessed. I'm the kind of person that gets really obsessed with this kind of thing.

Like, you know. Well, for you, because what Colin, our friend Colin said about you is that this was very orlando it was very immersive it was like taking you through this linear progression and with it you know and i think i think it is it's like a little taste of the theme park i love anything where before you do it they sit you down to watch a video me too i love that shit me too i'm all about that she goes all about it the girl who was such a gag the girl that was that was running it she was amazing and she was like okay well first we're gonna sit down and watch a brief video and i was like yes yes yes yes yes yes i was just so happy yeah full gag and she was it's amazing because i think that they do have a hand in setting them up right yeah she was i

asked her like how long does it take for you to reset because it was a mess by the end we were done it was crazy. Lots of props. Lots of props and lots of papers strewn everywhere. And I was like, how long does it take for you to reset this?

And she was like, oh, I could do this. And this is like a four-room maze, my interview. She was like, I could do this in about five minutes. And I was like, wow.

Yeah, good job. But think about it. I mean, at the end of the day, it's really just like, this goes here, this goes here, this goes here. Yeah, totally, totally, totally.

But if you mess one thing up, you fuck the players. And she said, at the end of the day, it's really just like, this goes here, this goes here, this goes here. Yeah, totally. Right. Totally. But if you mess one thing up. But if something is missing, it's like, well. And she said at one point, she had to come over the last pre-credits. She was like, are you guys missing this object? And we were like, yeah. And she goes, oh, right here. And I think it was something was supposed to pop out more than it did. Oh, okay.

But they're usually very good. Usually throughout the whole thing, it was like a sound effect would accompany us accomplishing a task. Oh, that's cute. Very Zelda. I loved it. And now talking about it, I really want to do one again.

We'll do it. Do a scary one. Okay. That's what you're going to do. I don't know. The live actress thing, it's like I know it'll either make it great or it'll be cheesy.

Have you never been to a haunted house? I have, but like ones where it's like someone, all they're doing is chasing you with a machete. It's like, okay, well, what performance? I mean, it's a performance, sure, but it's like, I'm going to be stuck in a room with this person. They better have material.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I live for them, the haunted houses. My sister and Henry, it's very weird. I love to do the walkthrough haunted houses, and I love them, but Ithrough haunted houses and I love them but I can't sit and watch like a stressful movie

or television show it's very bizarre that's so crazy it's so stupid what because I literally I only like to watch stressful and scary stuff

because like I guess so it fuels me I don't know I've talked about this so much on the pod but like I guess when I'm sitting there

and it's happening in front of me you're not doing anything I can't go anywhere like at least in a haunted house i can run the fuck away yeah yeah yeah um but anyway i went to universal studios for their halloween horror nights and they do a great job oh they do it up yeah i mean they have they're not playing i think they announced it's coming back they're gonna do we should go in october we should go next oscar yeah come come you gotta because my sister lives down there she came over henry and i went and we did uh all the haunted

houses and they had a gag worthy american horror story house where there was they did i guess they did murder house which is season one freak show and hotel okay and so you know there was a there was an ang Angela Bassett walking around in there. Angela Bassett jumped out at me with a knife and I literally said to her, I'm like, thank you.

Yeah, you're like, I live, I live, I live for you. I was like, literally this, and they're so good. Yeah. Oh, they get the best. And I'm not an American

They don't cut corners. Yeah, no. I'm not an American Horror Story fan because like I said, I don't like to watch that shit but my sister loves the show and we got out of there and she was like you guys need to watch that show to understand how

much they just nailed it like every scene that was that you could remember from the show was in there like it was very specific that's great and also they because it's universal and it's like movies and stuff they recreate there was one for the exorcist which is the only one we didn't do because my sister was like I'm not doing any kind of okay health devil shit yeah yeah the exorcism

shit really bothers my sister a lot of people do a lot of there there is a weird sort of like kind of like no gradient of like when it comes to religion or like you know god and the devil they won't get into it but if it's like serial killers or like werewolves, God and the devil, they won't get into it. Wow. But if it's like serial killers or like werewolves and vampires, then it's fair game, which is so funny to me. What's the biggest gag horror movie for you of all time?

Oh my God. We're talking to a horror expert. I mean, you're getting it. Let's go. You're asking for it. Let's go. I mean, like, what kind though? Because there's different types.

Give us like campy, like sleepaway camp category style. Basket case. Okay, got to check that out. I'm so bad with horror movies. It's the best., like sleepaway camp category style. Basket case. Okay, got to check that out. I'm so bad with horror movies. It's the best. What about Serial Killer? Serial Killer sort of, I mean,

a sleepaway camp is like my favorite slasher sort of movie. Sort of like, Exorcist is truly one of the, I mean, it's basic as hell to say, but it truly is one of the most scariest movies you'll ever see. Just because the way that they dealt with the, quote unquote, scares of it is so grounded that you're just like, oh my God, we live in this world. Oh my God, yeah.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's your favorite thriller, psychological thriller? I guess that's specific god you don't have to answer flight plan i was gagged for saw red eye is great red eye oh red eye is good i like red eye i love red eye did you see the first saw i did i did like saw i did like the saw i mean a lot of people a lot of people hate the sort of like torture porn stuff yeah i don't i really i do i enjoy the torture stuff. So like The Hills Have Eyes

because I hated that. I do. I mean, Human Centipede I liked. You know what I mean? I'm into all that kind of stuff. All that gross, disgusting stuff I love.

What's Basket Case? Oh my God. I don't even know what Basket Case is. Basket Case is a movie directed by Frank Henenlotter and I know this because I have a straining order

against him. Not really. Yes, ma'am oh shit okay i've never heard this yes let's get into it so um in new york i used to host a show called uh midnight movies with montoya that's my last name at the pit and once a month every saturday i would host I would put up, I would screen one of my favorite B movies. And for my birthday, I've screened The Room and Mac and Me and those classic movies. And for my birthday, I wanted to screen Basket Case. And in those movies, I usually get someone who worked in the movie to talk about it and stuff. It's very mystery science theater. Didn't you get Greg Sestero from The Room?

Yeah. Wow. Good job. So for Baskin, I got one of the actresses, Beverly Bonner, who is just a true gift to the world. And she was so excited. And she's like, oh, my my gosh i have to tell frank about this because he will love uh and then instead of loving it he sent me an email being like i do not approve of this like i don't want people to come into my movies and making fun of my work and i'm

like you don't understand you are my hero like i am obsessed with all of your movies brain damage frankenhooker like all of those are just like huge influence love for those movies yeah like and i'm like it's actually just going to be a celebration of your work like i just want people to like find out more about you and he was like i will get my lawyers involved if you don't stop and i'm like okay well i much respect but this is a free legally i'm allowed to scream yes you know um and sure enough i got it i got it i got a letter that's like a don't meet your heroes moment a little bit yeah oh for sure yeah yeah but you know i i frank cannon letter has emailed me i have his email address that's so funny i got a letter

i mean like i i and why the restraining order um i think that was his like i think it was like he wanted to go further than a cease and desist like a cease and desist was not enough oh jesus humorless i know yeah so um yeah it's i mean i i think it's i i mean i don't know if it like really is or just like a threat of a restraining order yeah um but i mean i i loved it i mean i i'm like oh my gosh i got to interact with one of my heroes wow you know what i mean so like yeah i thought that you walked away from that experience that like kind of horrific legal experience being like at least i got to meet it oh for sure frank talk to frank is like it says everything about you and i love it oh my my God. What's the movie about?

Okay, so the movie is about this guy. It takes place in like the late 70s, early 80s. And he like goes to the seedy sort of hotel in like pre Giuliani Times Square. So it's like very shady, you know? And he's carrying a basket with him, like a giant sort of like, yeah, basket. And like the tag is like, what's in in the basket because that's what everyone asks him and he doesn't want to say and he's kind of like this weird sort of

like mousy like very just like easily excitable man and what's in this bat in this basket is his twin brother belial who was a siamese twin that when he was, and he was just, it's literally a lump of flesh. Yeah. It's like a weird tumor monster. It's alive. Yeah. That is alive. So when they were young,

when they were younger, they like separated these, all these doctors like kidnapped him and his twin brother and separated them because he's like, I don't want my son being a freak. So let's kill Belial. But they didn't kill Belial. And Belial and belial and this

guy have this sort of psychic connections like twins do yeah and so they move they move back to kind of kill all of the doctors that operated on them uh and then you know hilarity ensues shit goes down but it's like one of those like movies that were made by made by like i mean it like the budget was maybe like maybe eight thousand dollars do you know what i mean just like really just terribly done like i love that kind of stuff you know what i mean my whole aesthetic is just cheap ugly stuff like john like tacky john waters is like my hero of all time you know what i mean divine edith massey like those are my icons those are my true icons you know what i mean

yeah real quick before we do i don't think so honey rupaul's drag race season nine thoughts oh i think it's well go go this is gonna come out a couple weeks so we're gonna be a little outdated but tell me thoughts i just think i can't tell if it's either i would say across i would say uh in general it's like an even season. Like a lot of... It's an even playing field, but I can't tell if the bar is low or if the bar is high. I truly can't tell.

If it's like these are really polished queens all competing on the same level and there's no huge outlier or if it's a low bar and everyone's just bad. Right. I don't think everyone is bad i think it's also like kind of too early to call it yeah i we're pre-snatch game by the way exactly this is pre-snatch game right i think snatch game is a huge turning point when you're like okay now let's

now let's really compare seasons yes yes because i think we're too i think we're not giving it i know a lot of people are like these queens are like you know what I mean just like kind of like resting right now but I'm like yeah but like what other season besides I would say like 8 and 6 were the queens like bringing it right from the gate you know what I mean like

5 with Sharon is that the season Alaska Alaska, Jinx, Roxy Alyssa Coco With Sharon? Is that the season? No, no, no. With Alaska. Oh, well, okay. Alaska, Jinx, Roxy, Alyssa Coco. But even that season, I think. Alaska was rough the first episode.

Do you know what I mean? Alaska didn't activate for me until way later in the season. Sure. I think that we're being a little hard on it. However, I will say this. The frontrunner right now from where we sit is, we can agree, Valentina. Valentina. Is the frontrunner. I think she will not be looked back on well as a standout winner unless she really gags the kid.

Oh, you think she's going to win? I don't think so. I think right now she's going to win. Well, I also think it's too early to call it. You know what I mean? I agree. I also think it's too early to call it. You know what I mean? I feel like based on storylines, I feel like we have not really dug all that there is to Valentina. We haven't dug all there is to Peppermint.

I think Peppermint still has to blossom. I feel like Peppermint is a contender, but we don't know that. No one knows that. We know that because we've seen Peppermint live. And she's amazing. She's a contender she's fucking amazing

but when that doesn't come through that's like a huge red flag also amazing live with Sasha Velour and that is not coming through on the show and Aja too

and Aja right but the thing is yeah it's different to win that show it's different you have to have a specific set of skills for a TV show

which makes it all the more impressive that Bob is both amazing live and on that show. Oh, I know. Hacked it. Crazy. He was 100% deserving winner. I think right now, what is there, 11 queens left? I think the only for sure thing you can say in terms

of what's going to be the result is that Valentina will be in the top three. Agreed. I think there's no way. Agreed. And then I think the rest of the top three is going to be filled out by some combination of Shea Coulee, Trinity Taylor, Eureka O'Hara and maybe there you have Sasha Velour

maybe. Wow no mention of Nina Bonina. And Nina Bonina Brown I was just going to say is the last one that I think could definitely be there. However there's like something going on. I'm worried for her but I also relate to her so much. Me too. so much so so so much

wild card Alexis Michelle no honey no I mean like I love her but also it's all about the editing too it's like who are the characters that we respond to you know what I mean it's already being forecasted and Aja's getting a really featured edit

I think Aja is an adore thing. Oh, okay. Henry, my boyfriend, is really pulling for Aja. He's in the Aja camp. I love Aja because she's just a scrappy queen. And I love girls that just fight hard. Do you know what I mean? Aja's got that sort of magic where she's a little bit delusional,

which I like in my drag queens I love that sort of like not fully self aware oh yeah like not even on this planet like reality wise like is not aware of how the world works

like that's how I want my drag queens to be like completely oblivious to the life's real tea yes do you know what I mean

I guess I just want to be knocked flat on my ass gagged and it hasn't happened yet uh the only time i've been like oh my god is when valentina came out in the wedding dress i was i screamed yeah she's a look yeah she's a little she's killing it and also we have we've in the in the minor performance things we've seen she's done well yeah i've seen yeah i've seen her live and she's truly fantastic. The only one that's like

really nailing it and everything right now is Shea Coulee and still I think she's only an 8 out of 10. I know. Jack of all trades, master of none. Those girls don't win. I love her personality so much. She's great. Very charming. Everything she wears, I'm like I would wear that. I would wear that.

Yeah, she's looking great. She's like katya a little bit very similar very likable just like yeah but yep fifth place not like not like self-deprecating enough i think sure oh she's just like very real just charming just yeah um great it's time for i don't think so honey oh my god it is our here we go it is our moment to rail against culture for one minute you take the culture into your hands and you destroy it oh my god I don't even know what I'm gonna say just wait it comes to you at the last minute that's when you know it's

inspired so I'll go first and here we go this is Bowen Yang's I don't think so honey and time starts now I don't think so honey Radio Shack stores across America. Thank God you're closing. Good fucking riddance.

I don't think so, honey. The Radio Shack I went to yesterday on Sunset Boulevard. I tried to get a new cord, a lightning charger cable cord for my iPhone. The young lady who was working there, she was the only person

working that store. You know, don't try to upsell fucking batteries at me at the last, at the fucking register. She gave me this cord. It broke within six hours. Honey, I don't think so, honey. This this girl she seemed like a nice person but she was

blasting most girls by pink when i walked in and honestly i was gagged a little bit because i listened to it on my way on my walk back but i don't think so honey you selling me a shitty product and it's unacceptable i don't think so honey and i don't think you even have a return policy because you're closing where are you gonna keep all that overstock honey i don't think so honey radio shack i don't think so honey we. Radio Shack, I don't think so, honey. We don't need you anymore, honey. We are living in a cordless, wire-free society, honey. I don't think so, honey. So, good riddance. You're gone.

Best Buy is the big monolith now. I don't think so, honey. I'm going to go Best Buy whenever I can. Best Buy is the gag. Best Buy, I can buy some headphones and a phone case and some gift cards. I don't think so, honey. Running out of steam there. Wow. You were very front

loaded, but what was in the front killed. Seriously, you were swimming and then you kind of dog paddled at the end. You killed it for 45 seconds. How dare you? Yeah, go ahead. No, I like it. This is, I mean, I've never done this before. This is,

this cannot be easy. I don't think So Honey is an art and all art should be critiqued. Yes, but to be critiqued in this way. No, I get it. I felt your passion, Bowen. I felt your passion. Give it some distance first. Start.

This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think So Honey. Time starts now. I don't think So Honey. Those of you who think it's a fucking joke when the waiter gets to you and you think it's your time to perform bitch it's your time to order i don't think so honey when i am sitting there and i'm trying to get my order and i'm a hungry bitch i do not think it's funny honey when you are trying to be cute with your menu and saying, what do you like? I don't know.

He is not there to order. You are. And you've been given time. There's a reason when you sit your ass down in the chair, they hand you the menu straight up front. It's because it's time to decide. And then when you start laughing about how funny it is that you haven't decided? Honey, I don't think so. I'm hungry. I'm not here to listen. I'm here to order. And that server, God is my witness. He is not gagged for you. He's looking at

you and he doesn't like you. None of you are cute. If you can't be concise at the table, I don't think so, honey. That's one minute Oscar response. You really let us all have it. It's not cute. Oscar, do you have a response to that? My response is you're entitled to your

own opinion, but that's not the way it went down, but okay. Okay, girl. The way it had went down was... Are you gonna set the facts straight, girl? You're gonna set the facts straight, okay? Whatever, girl. You know? Alright. All I know is I was waiting. This is a contentious environment.

First of all, I just want to say that I literally was like, oh, the waiter came and he was like, oh, who'd like to go first? And I said, Matt. Because I was like, Matt knows what he wants. And you literally were like, no, I'm not ready. Rachel. Yeah, which is a decision. That's a decision.

So me saying, no, you know what? I'm actually not ready. Rachel, who had said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I said, she a decision. That's a decision. So me saying, no, you know what? I'm actually not ready. Rachel who had said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I said, she's ready. Start with her. And then she was like, and I was like, girl, come correct. Come correct. Rachel Chapman. Shout out to Rachel Chapman.

If you'd like to rebut this, please send us a message. Comment below. Comment below because I have a comment for you at the dinner table and it is no. Okay. Wait. Okay, never mind. What? I was going to get into like, what are some things that people have been...

It's anything you want. So it's like... You can also have something selected for you. Oh, sure. It's called the troll bowl. And you have... No, fuck that okay great so you have something in mind oh yeah yeah okay this is oscar montoya i'm nervous i don't think so honey

i can't believe this is happening i'm so excited oscar montoya i don't think so honey time starts now i don't think so honey palm trees in hollywood california what the fuck is your story okay just palm trees period like what are you doing here, okay? You are too tall to be trees. You've been around forever, since the dinosaur times. I feel like every time I walk down Sunset, I feel like I'm in the fucking Flintstones. Explain yourselves, palm trees.

I don't think so, honey. When the palm fronds fall down, it might kill me by falling down on my head. I don't think so honey i've worked this long to stay alive and i don't want to die in an embarrassing way by having a fucking leaf fall on my head i don't think so honey i read somewhere that rats live inside of palm trees what the fuck is happening sweet teas i don't want rats to be living in holly weird holly weird is weird enough honeys okay i don't want to be walking down in Holly Weird. Holly Weird is weird enough, honeys, okay?

I don't want to be walking down the street, looking at a palm tree, and then just seeing the rats of them all around me. I don't want to deal with that. Palm trees, no. You need to be cut down because you are a liability. Why are you in Los Angeles? Why are you in Florida?

Why are you in this world? Delete. Goodbye. Forever. Goodbye. That's one minute. Well, he got one minute in seven but you know what

it was great it was a fantastic one it's such a it doesn't make sense to me palm trees how do you feel after it I don't think so honey

it felt good it felt good and it wasn't honestly not what I was planning to talk about but look it was impassioned

yeah and you felt your fantasy and I have to say that is the title of this episode. Feel Your Fantasy. Oscar Montoya, you teach us to do that. And you truly are a beautiful person. That is my mantra.

So beautiful, Oscar. The beauty emanates from all corners. Stop it. From all crevices, from all pits. That sounds weird. I believe it. Oscar is very special to us. And we flew here

just for this for this I miss you guys so I miss you honestly truly truly truly truly I know it's such a good vibe do you know what I mean

I was literally do you not remember me saying that two days ago I know we were all working doing our stuff and I was just like my children were home

I felt very at ease do you know what I mean it was very natural. It was a natural state. And it just was like, right, we're all here. We're all creating. We're all fighting this fight together. Oh, my God.

You could even say that we're blessed with everything that's in me. Blessed. Come on. With all the tenderness you show. Do my best. With everything that's in me say you never go never never never

go wow this is last culture recess my name is bowen yang my name is matt rogers and that is oscar montoya am i saying that right i don't know. We got to go. Bye.

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