Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "The Infrastructure of Bangs" (w/ Ana Fabrega & Julio Torres)

Episode Date: July 10, 2019

Creators and stars of Los Espookys on HBO, Ana Fabrega and Julio Torres, join Matt and Bowen in the studio to discuss their new series, the infrastructure of bangs, what culture made Ana say "culture isn't for me" and how to properly eat skittles.---MERCH! MERCH! GET YOUR LAS CULTURISTAS MERCH!https://www.teepublic.com/stores/las-culturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST. LAS CULTURISTAS IS PRODUCED BY EMMA FOLEY.http://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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How are you? I'm great, I want to know what your brain chemistry is right now Because you Faulty Someone partied last night Someone did What happened? Well, okay, so

Do you know this party, Horse Meat Disco? I'm familiar, I've been It's awful, it's great, it's beautiful It's terrible, It's disgusting. Here's my theory about New York versus LA. Everyone hang on. I think there are 8 million gay men in New York

and there are 32 gay men in Los Angeles. You've made this statement before. That's not true. It is. There's 32 types of gay men in Los Angeles and there's 8 million types of gay men in New Angeles and there's 8 million types of gay men in New York. Explain. It's just a comment on...

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Yeah, I have a problem. I don't love circuit parties, but I will go to them. This might be my IDTSH later. Maybe, maybe. But it feels like such an easy target. But the thing is... But we go anyway. We're going tonight.

One of our guests went to one last night. Our other guest and I went to this truly deserted bar in Bushwick. And it felt like we were in the Midwest. Did it feel like World Pride? It did not feel like World Pride. And I just had to banter. Miss Jade was there. She's fantastic.

And hi, Miss Jade. And she and I just openly were having a conversation with each other in front of the audience. What? There was like 13 people there total. You wouldn't believe. What? The two celebrities that were at this event last night. Who? Tell me.

Andy Cohen and Anderson Cooper. Wow. Best friends. AC. AC and AC. Listen, here's the thing Who are our guests Our guests

I throw this word around all the time But I really love them Jejun Jejun was back in 2016 When I was trying to be like I'm a smart comedian with big words And I was trying to make Jejun happen Very big word Now go on I'm a smart comedian with big words. Yes. I was trying to make it happen. Big word.

Very big word. Now go on. No, I love our two guests so much. I'm excited about this episode. I'm really excited about this episode because I'm excited about the show that they created and wrote and star in. I love it a lot.

It's so fucking good. It literally is inspired by Saturday morning cartoons. We can talk about this more, but it has that cartoonish cadence of joke, joke, joke, joke, joke. Yeah. And it's just not even, and sometimes it's not even jokes.

It's just like a performance from Gregoria. That's much, and I will say, I think she's my favorite character. I was just going to say, I love the two characters played by our guests. But I think Gregoria is my favorite character. She was discovered on the beach.

She was discovered on the beach. And also in the most recent episode, she's in the first scene and she takes her heels off and then she walks to the bed still as if she discovered on the beach. She was discovered on the beach. And also in the most recent episode, if she's in the first scene and she takes her heels off and then she walks to the bed still as if she's wearing the heels. Which I love. Barbie feet. Barbie feet. And the end of this episode,

she's getting pitches for stories from her team. Yes. A spider makes a web that looks like the Virgin Mary in a tattoo parlor. And so the people don't want to get tattoos because the Virgin Mary doesn't like it. I also love when she accepted calls from the audience

and they said, is Satan real? And she said, yes, he's real. He calls every day. But then the line that she says to her staff after they...

She left a quote back at the show to the people that created it. I know. I'm sorry. But this is just for the listeners.

This is for the listeners. Not for them. She hears this news story and she goes, I've heard it and it's the truth. I'll report it tomorrow. And laughed and laughed.

It's so good. What goodness. Oh, it's called Los Espookys. We didn't even say the title. It's called Los Espookys. Fridays. Fridays on HBO. At 11 p.m. on HBO.

Oh, the best time. It's so good. And then online. And then online. And then also online. It's actually a little culture. It's also online. It's also online. It's also online. And then online. And then also online. You know, it's actually a rule of culture. It's also online. It's also online.

Rule of culture number 14. It's also online. They're so, so, so, so perfect. We love them so much. Please welcome into your ears, Ana Fabrega and Julio Torres. Hello. Hi.

Hi, welcome. Okay, so we're all like, just really quickly before we talk about the show, Ana, you just went to a circuit party last night. We're going to go to one tonight. How do we all feel about circuit parties? I've never heard the term circuit party. And thank you for posing this.

I guess Poppy Juice isn't. How do you define? Circuit parties are like. Yeah, I wouldn't call Poppy Juice a circuit party. Poppy Juice probably isn't a circuit party. Because Bubble Tea isn't a circuit party. There you go. What is a circuit party. Poppy Juice probably isn't a circuit party. Because Bubble Tea isn't a circuit party. There you go.

What is a circuit party? I think a circuit party is lots of people mushed together. Probably shirtless. Probably shirtless. And the music doesn't have any words. Yeah. And it's more like... And actually, the party tonight is not... Devil's Playground is not going to be a circuit party.

And also, last night, Horse Me Disco, there were plenty of words in the music. And I love that. I don't like to dance to music with no words. How do you feel about this? I prefer words. Because how do you connect? Julio, words? I'll take words, yeah.

You'll take words, and it seems like you're inferring you'll also take merely sounds. I'll take merely sounds as well but then what's the preference you have to have a preference I guess maybe no words oh is this because you as a creative person are creating the own words in your head

as a writer I need a canvas you need a canvas I get that I'm so sorry. Poppy Juice is not a circuit party. Well, I think that we are all saying that the parties that we go

to are not circuit parties because circuit party has such a negative connotation, right? We're like, oh, we surely don't go to circuit parties. Yes, but they are. Surely not the one that Anna went to, not the one that I'm going to. You described the party that you were at last night as when it hit 1.30, it became, quote, unbearable. Well, I mean, that party always when it gets,

you know, because that's when like other people roll up at like 1.30. Yes. And it's packed. Yeah, it's packed. You know, but if you're there already and you're drunk, you're like, whatever. But I wasn't that drunk.

So I was just like, this is too full now. Yeah. I'm getting tired it's amazing what you'll tolerate with even a little bit of substance in you and it's intolerable situations yeah

that you normally would never put yourself in no I also like we were just talking well I don't know listener, reader

you might be in New York it is the summer it is hot and we were discussing how we don't like to be this way and those parties are famously hot

famously but famously hot the technology isn't there yet to cool the room to cool the room they don't have that yet

there's no solution yeah you can't the rooms are just merely too big merely too big merely? merely simply too big

yeah thanks speaking of rooms you two wrote the whole show yourself no rooms and you were talking about i think we don't have to actually get into this like legal discussion about let's get into a legal discussion um for the next season but um i think i think it's just so it's so like you guys what am i saying there's like there's this like obsession with like auteurship that's happening right now i think in comedies and i think that you guys, what am I saying? There's like, there's this like obsession with like auteurship that's happening right now,

I think in comedies. And I think that you guys like, it's a show that is like you, it's just you two and it's like so clearly, obviously and wonderfully you two, but it's like, you don't get caught up

in like the preciousness of like, well, what do we have to like do to make sure we keep some identity to this? You know, like you guys like, we're just typing and typing, typing and joking, joking, joking, joking, joking. Typing and typing and typing. Yeah.

And just laughing. And just laughing. Laughing and giggling. Yeah. Fred gave us the seed. He came up with the idea. He wanted, he was very into doing a show that was sent Latin America about friends. Or he actually, originally Mexico specifically, about friends who were into horror makeup.

And then he gave us the seed. And then we watered it. And then we're like, oh, this is not just that. It's also weird. And here it is. And now that's the show. Yeah. And here it is. And now that's the show. Yeah. That's cool.

And we had two beautiful consultants that were like, this is what makes sense. This doesn't make that much sense.

They came over for like a week. Yeah. And you said after that week, now you can go. Now you can go. What was them though? You you can go. What was...

You've been eliminated. What was... No, they were fantastic. You eliminated them. What didn't make sense that they told you didn't make sense? Well, no, nothing didn't make sense. It wasn't from them.

Nothing didn't make sense. It was more like rearrange this in a way. Yeah, to help the story be stronger. There are... Narrative consultants. all that boring stuff. Yeah, no, it was a narrative consultant.

A narrative consultant. But you know, we're only three episodes in at the time of this recording. Yeah, soon there'll be a fourth. Soon there'll be a fourth or even a fifth in two weeks. Well, I heard there's going to be six. Yeah.

I clocked, I'm like, I clocked this thing that's happening where you're just like, oh, I didn't realize this person would be serialized. I didn't realize Pepito was going to be. I love Pepito. The return of Pepito. Will Pepito return?

After episode three? Not in this season. Not in this season. Wow. But we have ideas. We have ideas. Also, I want to shout out Greta Teitelman

is killing and I was going to say Greta you think well Greta no she leaves on a cliffhanger in episode 2 yes

flies away in a helicopter flies away in a helicopter yes but episode 4 she's back she'll be back flanked by Eudora and Sam

right among others among others yes Tutu Tutu and oh god wait wait wait and Sam. Right. Among others. Among others. Tutu. Tutu. And Oh God.

Wait, wait, wait. Chelsea. I love the name Chelsea, my sister's name. Who's that the one who moved to Chile? And Katie McCracken. Katie McCracken.

And Katie McCracken. Is the character's name? The actress's name. I feel that you would give a character the name of Chelsea. Chelsea. No, their names in the show are...

American Ambassador Melanie Gibbons. Melanie Gibbons. Melanie Gibbons has four assistants, and their names are Chrissy, JJ, and then one of the names of the other one. Chrissy. I also love that John's name is Mark Stevens

Mark the CEO of Yerba Light Mark Stevens you gotta love I love to name naming characters is one of my favorite

things to do oh yeah what's the mysterious woman's alleged name she just called mysterious woman doesn't she reveal

her name she reveals her name and everyone thinks that there is a joke that they are not getting but there is no joke it's just a it's just a funny name

Dinora Jueves Dinora Jueves which is Dinora Jueves Tuesday Thursday Thursday Dinora Thursday

so you cast a lot of the actors out of Chile yes so the Ursula and Ronaldo who are the other leads

are played by Bernardo and Cassandra who are from Mexico so is my boyfriend on the show he's from Mexico yes and then the rest of them

Juan Carlos named after the cookies Juan Carlos named after the cookies yes but the rest of them are like perfect Chilean actors

yeah and did you audition when you went down or did you get tapes or like we got tapes. Yeah. And then actually was the only actor

that we were like, we have to bring him in because this role has been so difficult. Nobody could understand no one. No one got it quite right. And then he was just

so perfect. Yeah. The way his belt was all the way up to like his belly button and just like he looked glossy in the right kind of way. Glossy in the right kind of way.

You have to be glossy in the right kind of way. That was very good casting for Pepito. Overall good casting. The mysterious woman. I just love when she comes down the stairs and she's like you just see, hey what's up? She's so good. She can greet people. She's really good. Also greet people she's really good

she can greet people also wait how did Joel Kim Booster describe the show he was like it's like a much more sketch with a budget

that is that is what he said because we were saying it's like so Julio that it's like we recall the days of much more is much more

rest in peace it's alright P I think it's oh no no no it's still around it's around but no one goes to shows there because they employ sexual harassment.

Really? Right. Oh, I did not know this. It's a fucked up situation. I got it confused with Over the 8 for a second, which is the first time I saw Anna. Which is gone.

Which is R.I.P. Yeah, and it's a Mexican restaurant now. It's a Mexican restaurant now that I went to and they have good guacamole. I went once, yeah, and it was all right. It wasn't bad.

Yeah, it wasn't bad, but it wasn't great. But that's all Mexican restaurants in New York. In that area, especially where it's like, you know, expensive. Like, here's modern Mexican food.

Yeah, no. Chic Mexican food. But you said they kind of nailed the guacamole? Kind of nailed the guacamole. Well, it's actually real culture number 44. You have to nail the guacamole.

I remember Anna Fabrega just at over the eight, just going through her slides, her Photoshop work, and it was just like, oh, wow, this is perfect. And then you see it on the show. Are you, Anna, are you like, I'm having like, I'm playing this game in my head as it like on the show are you and are you like i'm having like i'm playing this game in my head as i'm watching the show where i'm like oh is that did anna write that or did julia write that which is like so it's so sick that you do that they write it together they're collaborators this is that snl bullshit i know that snl bullshit are you guys writing like to each other's

characters or is it is it like does is there characters? Or will it gravitate more towards you write for Tati and you write for Andres? I think primarily we write for the people that we specifically created. But I love writing Tati stuff. And then you like writing Andres stuff. Yeah. So we're both staff writers in each other's world. Yes, you work for each other. Yes.

How well do you know each other? Let's play a game. Oh, wait. Do you have a, do you have like. No, this game will come from my brain. Can you imagine if I whipped out like a game? I was so sure that you had like index cards. No, no, no.

No, the game will come from your mind. The game will come from my mind. Let us play a game. Honestly, if they were to be index cards, that also would have come from my mind because I would have written something down. Let us play the game. Okay, so what is Anna's astrological sign? She's a Leo.

Is that true? True. And now answer that question about Julio. He's an Aquarius. Famously an Aquarius. Compatible. Wow. These are very compatible?

These are very compatible astrological signs, yes. Good, good, good. You will be unsurprised to hear that Bowen and I are also very compatible what are yours Scorpio Pisces

oh okay great what is that O Scorpio Scorpio Pisces you gotta watch them no you really don't

I'm a pretty I'm a pretty unthreatening Scorpio what's your your rising your rising is Libra which I guess means I does you're moon my rising is Libra which I guess means

does that mean I present as a Libra yeah and okay so then that might explain it but then my moon is Gemini which is also like

oh oh and I'm a Pisces Cancer Pisces water water water water water water emotional cries a lot

oh but like don't hurt my feelings I just found this Joel was telling me that CoStar the CoStar app is like bad what Water, water, water, water, water. Emotional. Cries a lot. Don't hurt my feelings. I just found this. Joel was telling me that the CoStar app is bad. What? It's bad people. I was hearing you say this.

Yeah. No, but because what is your phrasing? Because they just. It's the fuck Jerry of the. It's the fuck Jerry of astrology because they just pull all this work from actual astrologers into like an algorithm. And then they just like, they'll be like, oh, here's your chart and here's your day like it's very like here are your transits and it's like all work that other people have done you're canceling everything today you're canceling coastal you're canceling everything west hollywood

yeah the second round of the game will begin now okay okay and what is Julio's ideal vacation destination? Well, it depends It could be a city We could be in Berlin Or we can be on an island in Greece Where we're going to Antiparos Wait, what? Oh, yes, I heard you were going to Greece

Yes, so Greta Teitelman Who plays American Ambassador Melanie Gibbons Has picked an island in Greece for Anna and I to enjoy four days of luxury wait is Greta

meeting you there yes perfect her father lives in Greece oh yes yes and you showed me

pictures of the island yes I did it looks beautiful wait but also but also we could be at a waterfall with Julio's vacation

yes yeah definitely in the rainforest there was something that I every time But also we could be at a waterfall with Julio's vacation. Yeah, definitely. In the rainforest. There is something that every time that I go into a hotel, I get really nervous that my room won't have views of either sky or sea. Because if it doesn't, there is a 75% chance that I will ask for a room change. Yeah.

I was going to say, you seem to me the type where if you were to open the blinds and it was like the back of a building, that isn't now. Absolutely not. Okay. So I, and this is,

this was actually, um, a rude awakening for me when I, uh, you know, uh, the assassination of Jenny Versace, the TV show.

Yes. Yes. Yes. In it, Andrew Cunanan, the TV show. Yes, yes, yes. Yes. In it, Andrew Cunanan, psychopath, right? Oh, absolutely. Like,

I'm not afraid to burn that bridge. No, murder Andrew Cunanan. It's actually rule of culture number 102. Andrew Cunanan is a psychopath. I don't care

what anyone says. Yeah. Because I heard you defending him earlier, but I... He's burned everyone except Andrew Panana. Except Andrew, actually. I love him.

There's a scene, which I don't know if this is poetic, if you can call that. He books a hotel room. He books a hotel room, and he opens the windows to his beautiful hotel room in South Beach, and he sees that there's a wall. And then he just composes himself. And then he goes downstairs, and he's like, excuse me. Might you be able to? And, like, the way he says it, I was like, wow, that is me.

And you know what? I bet he got his room changed, and that was a metaphor. That guy was able to talk his way into anything. He was a psychopath. Well, are you walk us through how you go about requesting the room change do you call down do you go down

okay so usually I'll check into a hotel room and then chances are that my boyfriend is present most of the time hello John John hello thank you for saving me at the gym that one time oh uh and i'll go in and then john knows that it's coming and he's dreading

it and then i open the blinds and then john is standing behind me not putting the suitcase down because he knows that there's a chance that we might change and then he he'll go like all right okay okay all right uh good impression uh and then he uh and then i turned to him almost like saying would it be crazy and then and uh then I just try to compose myself. I'll sit down in the bed and I'll dial the lobby. And then I say, is it possible? Would it be at all possible? And can I add to that? And to maybe go higher in the building.

Yeah, absolutely. You know this. As far away from the building. Yeah. Absolutely. You know this. You know this. As far away from the ground as possible. Right, right, right. Close to the sky. Close to the sky. Or the sea.

Close to the sky or the sea. Well, if you go, oh, yeah, if you go up, then you get more sky, of course. Or get more sea. Okay, Julia, what's Anna's ideal vacation spot? I don't, just before you even say, I don't even know what that answer is. Well, you don't know. You'll respond. You don't just before you even say I don't even know what that answer is well you don't know you'll respond you don't know

yeah so I can at least it's very intuitive this one I can at least present pieces of the puzzle yeah

we'll do that yeah okay activities yeah well after rapping in Chile I went to Rio

right and then Anna wasn't so warm on the, I went to Rio. Right. And then Ana wasn't so warm on the idea of going to Rio. This was not as attractive to her as it was to me. And then she decided to go to Buenos Aires, which to me made sense because it's a crisper climate. Yes. It is metropolitan but orderly. Yes.

In a way that I think Anna responds to. She also really liked being in Santiago. I think maybe more than I did. Because, again, very metropolitan and orderly. Very civilized people. I like those Brazilians. There's no, like, it is a very or really hustle and bustle it's not like

it doesn't have people know their place people know where they're supposed to be like on the train

but Anna did not have the best time in Buenos Aires really well because

the homophobia there is palpable wow really I guess that makes sense and the machismo is like so strongly felt there The homophobia there is palpable. Wow. Really? I guess that makes sense.

And the machismo is so strongly felt there in a way that I couldn't believe. Really? Yeah. And it's supposed to be a very gay-friendly city. I was going to say. So when I got there, I was traveling with someone, and just the looks that we would get, because people would be like, oh, you look like you're gay. Yeah, yeah. Was insane. Yeah.

Yeah. Because I think if Buenos Aires has a progressive place and like, they've had like female prime ministers or presidents and stuff, it's like, well, I don't know. I don't know if that's like a...

Is it a very religious place? Yeah. Well, there you go. Yeah, I think all those places are vaguely religious. Sure. Oh, that sucks. I'm sorry.

Yeah. But I will say I loved, I went to Pucon, which is. Yes. That was like, oh, wow, this is my kind of vacation. Also, and you didn't get to go to the Atacama Desert. Yes. But I believe that you would really like that. Yeah, I like, like what I liked about Bucon is that the hotel I was staying at was on this lake,

this giant lake. And the property was so big and you could just sit outside and look at the lake and like, I didn't have to like leave the hotel really. It was like the most relaxing.

You like peace and quiet in your vacations. Yeah. Yeah. You like peace and quiet in your vacations. I wanted to, I want to see some beautiful landscapes.

I want there to not be that many people. A lake sounds so good right now. A lake is actually... Can I tell you one psychopathic thing I did in Rio that involved a delt?

Who not an ass? Did you hate Rio? No. No, I loved it. I loved it in Rio. I got it. But I loved Rio but I, you know,

fully aware that I saw it through the lens of a tourist with some money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where it's like, oh, no one's homophobic here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are they talking about?

Rio is thriving. The Brazilians are thriving. So I went alone. I was in Rio alone. Right. And I checked into my hotel and it was great. I saw a beautiful view of the mountain. Yes.

I saw the mountain. I saw some city. And I saw the beach. Wow. It was perfect. Great. But then I'm like, well, I want to go to the beach. I don't want to just see the beach.

I want to go to the beach. Uh-huh. And my hotel was pretty far away from the beach. Okay. And everyone was like, don't, you can't like go to the beach alone and leave your stuff unattended and just go into the ocean. Then you're just asking for trouble. Absolutely. Oh, okay. asking for trouble absolutely okay uh and then i i did three exploratory days to the beach

where i couldn't go into the ocean i was just testing the waters and see and like how do i do this how do i do this i booked a different hotel room across the beach that's actually something i that's not psychopathic, but that's a good idea. It's not a bonyang thing. One time in Rio, I had two hotel rooms. Yes, I would do that. Oh my God.

I would have done the same thing. Somewhere to put your bag down. Somewhere to put my rings and my bag down. It's like, yes, checking in for one, yes. Now, how long were you there? Did you sleep in different,

did you spread out the sleeping nights well first I was like oh maybe I can like you know sleep in one but go have breakfast in the other one of course it's crazy no the other one was just a locker essentially disgusting

wow that's really the dream I think that is the dream and you just wrapped a show that you you you were just wrapped a show that you made and were in get a second hotel make sure that like a family who's dying to go to the vacation last minute can't is it possible to get a room change no we, we actually just had Julio Torres on HBO. No, actually, this small gay man needed a place to put his bag.

Wait. Also, in this last episode, Juan Carlos, he kept saying manitas, like little hands. I love little hands. Do you have little hands? I don't think you have little hands.

Well, I think I have hands that are proportional to my body. I have five nine for the listeners. They're not big hands. They're completely fine. But also Juan Carlos says it in a like authoritative, yeah, patronizing way. Yes, yes, yes.

So Juan Carlos, I think, sees Andres as this little child king, who he must court. I love when the ring falls off the finger and he goes, well, you have to make a fist like this. You make a fist at all times. He's so funny.

Yeah, he's a good one. He was very good. Okay, continuing with the game. What does a conflict between the two of you look like? Oh. Oh.

I feel like probably easily sorted out. Yeah, you guys don't seem like I think there's disagreements right there is like

maybe parts of like doing this show that it's like well this well that hmm and then we involve a third party I see

this is a healthy thing to do yeah to be a tiebreaker but then I feel like the like I can't think of a time where we were like just disagreed so much

that I thought about it after. Yeah. You know? No, it always ends. Okay. Yeah. Let's do that then. That is healthy.

That's very healthy. Who's the third party, Fred? Was he around during like a lot of the writing? Sometimes it's Fred. It's usually, if it's a Spookies, it'll be like probably a producer.

Mm-hmm. Got it. Nate Young. Alice Mathias. Who are these people to tell us? These could be names in the Young. Alice Mathias. Who are these people to tell us? These could be names in the show. These are names. Nate Young is a brilliant line producer,

and Alice Mathias is a perfect producer on the show. God bless the line producers, you know? They make it happen. They really do. They do. They really friggin' do. I actually don't know what the difference between all the different types of producers are.

A line producer handles the budget. I see. And then Alice is accessible for more creative issues on the show. Like the wig fiasco. Yes. Oh, the wig fiasco. Who's wig? This is Greta's wig.

This was Greta's wig. Tell us. It's an iconic wig. I will say? Was it Greta's wig? This was Greta's wig. Tell us. It's an iconic wig. I will say that this was no one's fault. Okay. Okay. I will start by saying that this is no one's fault. But.

It was Greta's fault. It was Greta's fault. No. Greta comes. It's her first day of shooting. And then our director aptly diagnoses that Greta should wear a wig. Okay.

Why? A lot of actresses wear wigs. Literally almost all actresses wear wigs, and also didn't you want like a bleach blonde moment at all times? She would have had to be getting her hair touched up and it would have destroyed her hair. Greta would have had to severely bleach her hair, like truly like every four days.

And then, of course, Greta was like, maybe wigs. And then there were so many things going on. And in Chile Not that many wigs Oh wow You can't just buy a wig the way you can here There's a wig store in every corner So we

And there were so many great wigs available However we wanted We just wanted Greta's hair It's Melanie's hair It's Melanie's hair. It's Melanie's hair. So they find a wig and they cut it and they style it

and I'm looking at it and I'm like I kind of feel fine with it and this wig has bangs. This wig has bangs. And then I was like can we get rid of the bangs? And they were like no because it's, they explained to me the infrastructure of bangs. Right.

And how, like, they're the foundation of the haircut. And if you cut the bangs, the whole building falls out. Bangs famously have to grow out. Yes. The infrastructure of bangs is running for town. So I was like, okay, well, I guess Melanie has bangs. And Greta was like, great, cool. And then she looked beautiful.

She looked stunning. She looked great. She looked like Greta with bangs yes and then she's doing a scene and I'm looking at the monitor and I hate it yeah and I hate it so much and it just feels like it's not who we

envisioned it makes the character seem really fake yes yeah she looks she looks Natalie Portman in Closer. She looks sexy in an alias sort of way.

In that kind of like imposter Charlie's Angels. Charlie's Angels. Yeah. Et cetera, et cetera. Yeah. So then

they're like, well, we can get a different wig but not for today and I was like okay let us reshoot the hall and they're like no Julio no

let us reshoot let us bring we will come to this location two hours away from the city again only so we can have her with no bangs and they were like

Julio no so then she wears bangs for some of the Only so we can have her with no bangs. And they were like, Julio, no. So then she wears bangs for some of her scenes and no bangs for some of her other scenes. Because everything, this was happening in that house, that big mansion where the inheritance care was taking place. So all those scenes there have bangs. And all her scenes in the embassy have no bangs. And then we resolved that Melanie was going to ask an assistant, should I get bangs? And this assistant says yes.

And thus Melanie ends up hitting this assistant. And then we wrote a line saying, everyone told me I couldn't undo bangs, but no one says no to American ambassador Melanie Gibbons. And then she just ended her bangs. Then that's perfect. Then you solved it through the writing.

Through the power of the page. Don't ever say it can't be done on the power of the page. And honestly, the power of the page, front runner for title of app.

The power of the page or the infrastructure of bangs. The infrastructure of bangs is also a good title of app, I would agree. Yes. Okay, yeah, because I remember

in the first, yeah, in her first scene, which I'm sure you guys shot later, but I was just like, oh yeah, but i was just like oh yeah but the bangs are a plot point the bangs are a plot they became a bangs became part of her arc and also just like fundamental to uh so so ambassador melanie gibbons i think becomes a sort of like cat woman figure and that she's a friend and foe to los espugis yes so i. So I think that the Bangs fiasco is sort of like

her falling off the building and the cats licking her. It's like the beginning of something dark. We just talked about that scene. We literally just talked about Batman Returns and how it's like

one of the best comic book movies. But specifically the scene where she falls off the building and the cats lick her. And the cats lick her to life. So good. Have you seen Batman Returns I think you would love

I think so I probably have that was the one that came out in like 2004 this was truly 1992 this is old oh okay I don't think I've seen that

yeah Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman oh no I haven't seen it I've only seen Halle Berry as Catwoman oh you've only seen and Anne Hathaway of course

of course you're obsessed with Halle Berry as Catwoman you Oh, you've always... And Anne Hathaway. Of course. Of course. You're obsessed with Halle Berry as Catwoman. You are for Halloween every year? Yeah, every year. Every year. I'm specifically Halle Berry as Catwoman. Dress up as the iconic Halle Berry Catwoman. What is that little beep, beep, beep?

It's a little alarm. It's a prep alarm for a prep that I don't have anymore. Why don't you have prep anymore? Because my insurance doesn't... My SAG insurance doesn't cover it. No, no, no. Go to out of the closet and And then they just do the copay for you

or whatever? Actually, I don't know. See, I mean, now it's all over the place now. Don't put out misinformation to our largely gay fan base. Don't believe us. Prep should be, okay. I don't take it and I'm fine. Yeah, and it's fine. Someone, take it and I'm fine Yeah Anna's fine Someone

Were you and I talking about this Prep for women A woman was like I want to take prep Taylor Swift is getting on prep I think Anna Swift is on prep She's that much of an ally I don't care what it does to my liver

I just want to be safe I don't care about all the potassium I heard every queer is doing it I don't care about all the potassium. I heard every queer is doing it. I think it's an Anna Fabrega character for a cis straight white woman

to be like, I insist on taking PrEP. You never know. You never know. You never know what can happen. That's actually rule of culture number 17.

You never know what can happen. Wait, but I have mentioned this before. I think it's, why, so what time is it? It is now 2 p.m. Yes, why 2?

Why a pill at 2 p.m.? Because I know I'll be awake. Are you always out and about? Sometimes, if I want to sleep in, sometimes I'll, like, I'll be up at 2. But doesn't that mean that every day of your life, you have to put the prep in your bag? That's fine. It's a small pill. It's a small pill.

I don't understand. I'm like a morning, I take my vitamins in the back. That's fine. It's a small pill. It's a small pill. I don't understand. I'm like a morning. I take my vitamins in the morning. But you religiously wake up at like six in the morning every morning. Right. See, I'm not like that.

And so like, I started taking PrEP when we were- You don't fluctuate. Yeah, usually not. You don't have days that are like seven in the morning. No, I can't imagine waking up at noon.

We have week. No, that's my whole life. I wish I could do that sometimes. God, is it- Was that something that you like went in? Like, did you become a morning person or were you just always, I've always been a morning person.

Fuck. I'm so jealous. I mean, actually, this is something I like about Los Angeles is that everyone is a morning person just because of the way the sun rises and just like the energy of it. Like I'm up at 8am every day. Naturally.

It's insane. Greta is such a morning person. Greta and Abe are such morning people. We're all up at 8am. And you're productive. And I'm productive. Andam every day naturally it's insane Greta is such a morning person Greta and Abe are such morning people we're all up at 8am and you're productive and I'm productive and I do things

meanwhile in New York I am up until 2.30 in the morning waking up at 10 it's like really not it's not good but the problem with being a morning person is that even if I'm up late

I still wake up early so I'll go to bed at 2.30 I'm waking up I woke up this morning at 6.30 I went to bed at 2.30 and waking up i woke up this morning at 6 30 i went to bed at 2 30 and i was like fuck and i laid awake for like probably 40 minutes and then was able to fall back asleep until like 8 45 i see and that was sleeping in for you yeah that was like wow i never wake up that is a curse um well okay so there was an iconic moment that happened and you are an exerciser too you uh yeah yeah So there was an iconic moment that happened

that was very shameful for me that sometimes I think of and I wake with a start which is when I was taking a selfie of myself on the Pulaski Bridge and Ana Fabrega ran by me and said,

it looks good. And I was like, oh no. And I was fully taking a selfie of myself with the New York City skyline in the back. And I was running up behind.

Wait, it looks good. I had a really good shirt on. You were looking at suit. It was a suit jacket and like a kind of nice shirt. And it was me posted up on the bridge. It was golden hour. I was taking a photo of myself.

The three of us at this table are guilty of that all the time. So Matt Rogers was walking down the bridge. And then he saw the beautiful skyline, the beautiful lighting, his beautiful shirt and thought, I've got to capture this magical NYC moment.

Yeah, 100%. And must take an earnest, beautiful selfie. I'm not even going to say it wasn't earnest. It was. I wanted a nice picture of myself. Yes. Because I think I had, sorry, just got on a new dating app and I was like, I need a nice picture of myself because I think I had I think I had sorry just got on a new dating app and I was like I need a nice photo of myself with the New York

City skyline with the New York City skyline so they believe you that when you say I live in New York yeah so they know where I'm at my interests are New York City part of the reason I even said anything was because I thought that maybe you I was caught in your camera because I was running up behind you

oh yeah yeah so I was like but either way this is funny it was very funny and I was it was the thing where I was like

I think I laughed so loud because I was so embarrassed I was like and I was just like wow that sucked like I was just you probably texted 10,000 people after that

I think I texted you I think you told me this. I said, I'm so humiliated. I was like, that's so funny. Did you just keep running? I just kept running. She kept running.

She had shit to do. She had things in her schedule that were important. I did not. Wow. I don't have fucking time to take a selfie. Yeah, no. I'm busy running. Running.

And also, I just want to say, I'm not like a selfie person. It was just a moment in time where I was moved by the spirit of the city. I caught you on an off time. You caught me on a, let's call it a weak moment. But also, no shame in taking selfies. No shame. Yeah. A sort of, I don't even know what to call it, but a moment.

There must be a name. We must find a name. Yeah. There must be a name. We must find a name for the two, maybe three seconds of shame that most people have after they've taken a selfie in public. Do you know what I'm talking about? They rise their phone. They take the selfie. And for that moment, they mute the world around them. It's just them and the lens and nothing matters.

They take the picture. Then they put the phone down and they get a little red in the face. Because some people have seen what they get a little red in the face. Yep. Because some people have seen what they've done. People have seen it. And then often, if their hair is long, they'll tuck a little strand of hair behind their ear, look down, look at their phone, pretend they were doing something else,

and leave the premises. Yep. What is that? What is that little shame? What is that moment? It's a readjustment. You're re-socializing in a way, aren't you? In a way, yes.

Well, it's a moment where you reckon with the fact that like, and I bet a lot of people blame that on society. They say, well, I have this phone. It has this capability. It's not me. Everyone does it. So there is like a re-socialization. I see a lot of people take selfies with no hint of

shame or embarrassment because it's like so many people are taking selfies who cares I think Julio's just so tapped into his

sort of the internal do you feel embarrassed when you take a selfie in public for a moment after I think I'm the same

I do too what is that it's it's like ugh it's not like I'm the same. I do too. What is that? It's like, oh, it's not like I'm holding a book. I wish someone caught me reading. You're beamed back down. Whenever I do it, I'll just

scream out to everyone I'm around like, that was ironic, just so everyone knows that was ironic. There you go. Don't worry. Don't worry about me. I have thought, I haven't done this before, but there have been times where I'll see people who are, I assume like tourists, who are taking a photo with something in the background that's like very New York.

The love sign. Should I say to them, do you want me to take it? Or do they want it to be a selfie? No, they don't want it to be a selfie. They would ask if they wanted my help. See, actually, a couple times I have done this, and I have gotten the response. Most of the time you'll get, sure, that would be amazing.

Thank you so much. But also a lot of times you will say, I like that it's a selfie. Only when it's... I've been told that a couple times. The little face you made, like, I like that it's a selfie. I like that it's a selfie. I'm a little nasty. Honestly, that is an element of what you're talking about. That thing of, like, I actually like it. I say you like that it's a selfie. I actually like that it of the selfie. I like the name of the selfie. I'm a little nasty. Honestly, that is an element of what you're talking about. That thing of like, I actually like it.

I actually like the name of the selfie. I actually like the name of the selfie. Do you scrunch up your nose? I think it's for big groups. That's when I'll be like, hey. Well, then it's a nightmare. I mean, trying to get four people on a selfie is like, it's a fool's errand. Yeah, because then other people will pull out their phones.

They don't mind too. Hey, yeah, all right. And you know, you got to vertical it it which doesn't work on the gram vertical no no not vertical you turn horizontal yeah yeah let you landscape it and then you can't get it on the instagram yeah you can well you can but it looks small story i want my face to be big in pictures the real housewives of salt lake city are back i love that oh my gosh welcome and last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg you're recording us i am disgusted never in a million years after everything we've been through did i think that you would reach out to our sworn

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Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts how often do you run? I run like probably three or four days a week you were moving yeah

how many miles? you know I clock at least 80 miles a month 80 a month? oh great I'll do six miles probably three or four days a week. You were moving. Okay. Yeah. How many miles? You know, I clock at least 80 miles a month. 80 a month? Yeah. Oh, great. So then. I'll do six miles every other day.

Wow. And then live weights every other day. Not a little bit. I'll take a day off and relax. You know what I'm realizing? You, because there's two runners here. Well, I was,

I was like a hardcore runner in high school. I was a distance runner as well. And I remember like, I thought you were going to say 80 a week because during, but during hardcore training weeks, like I would do like, Oh wow.

No, see, I never, I don't want to go any more than I'm going because I'm like my, the stress it puts on your body. I'm like, I don't need to do that.

I'm not trying to run a marathon. No people. I just enjoy it. I can like tune out for an hour or whatever. Yeah. So you wouldn't want to run like a marathon? No, no,

no desire. It's great to just have something that you enjoy doing. The thing is whenever I try to run now, my old competitor's brain comes back and it's like, I have to remind myself it's not a race and I'm not training for anything. It's just you're doing it for your overall health.

I'm realizing right now we have not asked Anna the question. We have not asked Anna the question. Because Julio's been on this program before. But we have to ask Anna the question. We have not asked Anna the question. Because Julio's been on this program before. Yes. But we have to ask Anna the question. Which is, Anna, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me? This is the formative pop culture or like any culture in your life. Could be upbringing, could be whatever that made you say culture is for me.

And this created the person that we know today. Wow. Formative moment in culture where I felt... Culture. You heard the question. When you decided that culture was for you. Culture was in fact for me. You heard the question.

Everything I'm thinking of is moments that I said, maybe culture's not for me. Well, we want to hear about that. I'm going through middle school things. Yes. Dig in. All the different types of clothes that I wore, trying to find

the culture that fit me. Describe these. There's a lot of Tati in that. Yeah. Yeah, I guess. Oh, you're right. How is that like Tati? Well, Anna's character in Los Spookys HBO is constantly she's a character who's constantly searching for herself. And it manifests, a symptom of it is that she has no idea really what her style is.

So usually she'll wear that hideous little newsboy cap, those yucky little capris but anytime the Tati deems it to be a special occasion she'll just show up in like a a costume and it's like full beat as we say her idea of like

what that occasion is oh nice like going on the date in the third episode that was amazing oh well the 1920s were so elegant people looked so beautiful

yes I'm gonna go like that and a scene that we cut a scene that we cut a scene that we cut from the pilot a scene that we cut from the pilot

is originally the other spookies were present at the 15th birthday party at the pilot oh yes and Tati shows up

to the quinceañera in a quinceañera dress wow and then her big sister explains to her, you can't, the theme, this is the 15th birthday party,

the theme isn't 15th birthday party. And then Daddy's like, okay, I'll go change. And Ursula's like, no, but do you, are you just agreeing with me or do you understand

what I'm saying? And Daddy just walks away. And it's just a make it look fun. Okay, so this is from your own personal history then, because you went through that? Yeah, because Dati is looking for herself through work, trying to find herself through work. Who isn't?

And then the clothes, yes, are another extension of that. But in middle school, I went through like so many phases of like maybe I am a girl in Abercrombie and Fitch and Rocket Dogs or maybe I'm a girl in like, who's like a tomboy and wearing like my brother's

Billabong shirt. Or maybe I have like a tie and I'm like Avril Lavigne. Avril Lavigne. Wow. Do you remember that? Maybe I have like a a happy bunny t-shirt

maybe that's me happy bunny happy bunny it was ironic because the bunny was really mean and nasty the bunny smiled

but said things like I hate your mom or something oh my god happy bunny oh my god you just sang on these things like rocket dog

oh my god I don't know what rocket dog is it was those like platform sandals oh I can't yeah and the logo was just like rocket dog like these big like Rocket Dog oh my god I don't know what Rocket Dog is it was those like platform sandals oh I can't yeah and the logo was just like Rocket Dog

like these big like fat letters blue and then like a red flame like a dog it was like a weird dog illustration that was like

a really simple geometric like dog polygonal dog so what drag did you land on when you finally entered high school

in high school I was like... Where I'm sure it was solidified. I'm sure you did find a path. It was pretty plain. I dressed pretty plain, which I think I still kind of do. Although now I think I dress better than I did when I was 14. But it was pretty nondescript. I settled on like,

I don't want to stand out. I just want to wear something where I blend right in and it's functional. That's perfect because I feel like Basics are in. But this is like a nice inversion

of the question which is like, I truly figured out what I liked and what works for me culturally. By discovering what I did not like. Yeah, which is beautiful. A great mind.

A great mind. What was your thing in high school? I think I might have been the same where I really would buy a Henley from Hollister, a fucking like a like a shirt like a like a disgusting shirt not a disgusting shirt at Hot Topic but like something that had like something like dark and whatever or and then I would like

wear Crocs every now and then like I was truly all over the fucking world I was like ironically I was like oh wear Crocs to school and everyone's gonna laugh at me but I'll love it I really like had no I hadcs to school and everyone's gonna laugh at me but I'll love it they were comfy I guess I really like had no I had no sense of sartorial identity either

I feel like it wasn't until like three years ago or three and a half years ago that I felt like oh now I know what I like to wear I finally figured it out

because also my sister and I shared a room growing up and we lived together in new york for a few years too sharing a bedroom as well and i would wear whatever she told me to wear always we would go shopping and she'd be like anna this would look really cute on you and i'd go okay but i didn't like like it much yeah and then when she moved away i was kind of like wait what do i wear and then it still took me a little while to figure it out. Yeah. And be like, oh, this is what I like.

I don't have to wear a tiny little pink miniskirt. Yeah. I don't have to wear heels and go out in the meatpacking district. Oh, my God. What about you? What were you? Well, pretty much every school in El Salvador has uniforms. So that was like

not a lot of personal style not a lot of personal style so I obviously wore the uniform five days a week and when you're wearing uniforms does that fully like you have no time

you don't care to think about what you're gonna wear when you take it off like the times that you're not wearing like on weekends I would stay in my uniform all day

like on weekends like what would you my uniform all day like on weekends like what would you wear like do you know what I mean right right right you wouldn't think about it I went through very definitive phases where I was like this is what I am

and I don't deviate from this so for a while I was very into I think I was just wearing well I've always had an aversion to logos so I know that. You don't like text on shirts. I don't like text on shirts.

If the outfit says it, it must communicate it with no text. Right, of course. If the outfit wants to convey a message, it must do so via the silhouette. A universal vision. Yes. I think I would do a lot of just like primary colors over pants. Yeah. Yeah.

Like a blue shirt and pants. A red shirt and pants. Stuff like that. When did you start dyeing your hair? I started dyeing my hair in 2014. Uh-huh. Yes. So is that right when you moved to New York?

No, I moved to New York in 2009. Oh, yeah. I forget how long we have all known each other. Is that right when you moved to New York? No, I moved to New York in 2009. Oh, yeah. My new school. I forget how long we have all known each other. It is. I honestly, like, when did I? Because I know I met you at the pit when you were doing Ethnic Realness. Yes.

Yes. Yeah. And Miss Jade last night was our first guest. And she was like, she goes, what was your show with Oscar called again? I was like, Ethnic Realness. It was a very 2014 title for a show. I loved it. I remember doing that show and loving it.

Yeah, that was the first time we met. Yes. Yeah, I met you there. I met Joel Kim Booster there. I met my ex-boyfriend there. You met your ex-boyfriend at the show that you were at? At the show, yeah. Oh, hi, Danny. Hello, Danny. Oh, my God. Hello, Daniel. Hello, Daniel.

Hello, Danny. Hello, Danny. Oh, my God. Hello, Daniel. Hi, Daniel. Hello, Daniel. Hello, John. Hi, Daniel. Hello, Daniel. John, before you, there was a Daniel. John, before you, there was a Daniel. I'm going to reveal something. I wore this shirt today because I thought you might like it. Oh, it's nice.

There's little cassette tapes on it. It's nice. You guys are both wearing printed collared shirts. It's a very nice shirt. Why did you think I would like it? Because I thought you might respond to the little cassette tapes. To the little cassette tapes? Yeah.

Because... You like miniature things. Because you like miniature things, and I thought there was... Oh, okay. I feel like if you open your mouth, if you open your... I'm sorry, your hand, and you had a little cassette tape... That would be good. That would be like, okay.

A way to tie it into the shirt. Yeah. You wouldn't wear her? You wouldn't wear a print like that. I wouldn't. Okay. It's rare to see you with a print. Yeah,

I'm wearing a print right now. I felt even, I felt comfortable saying that, expressing it to you because I saw that you had a print and I was like, okay, maybe I was right.

Also, it's very light and it is famously hot as we said before. It is so hot today this is my like what is the lightest thing in the loosest pants I have

yeah no that's what I like about Los Angeles is you can truly wear anything on any day like you can decide to wear a jean jacket and you are fine

if you wore a jean jacket out here you would die instantly yeah you would turn to sand for sure what I think Julio has evolved to this place now that is very aspirational, but I think it's not,

I mean, it's literally not for anyone on a cost-prohibitive level, but it's also not for everyone because it's like not everyone can pull this off, but Julio will just go and buy reams of fabric, or not reams, but whatever, bolts of fabric, and then get things made.

You have your shit designed. I will say that I've been doing that even when more. Oh wait, more? Yeah. Wait, more? You kept saying more. Your eyes kept

widening. More? He said even when broke. Even when broke. More? Because the fabric, I make so much of my stuff, which is like, now there are a few pieces in archive because they don't fit in the apartment.

But just like really cheap fabric. Okay, yeah. Yeah. It's a fun little exercise. And then, and the cost of it, it goes into your tailor. Well, I would go,

whenever I would go visit my parents in El Salvador, I would bring it to their tailor there, which of course is cheaper than a tailor here. Wait, but would your mom make a thing sometimes? No, but that's not what she does. Does she seamstress? No, no. She would design. Oh, she would design. She would make clothes when I was growing up.

She's more of like an industrial designer. She'll make a chair for you. She's an architect by trade, but she'll also design furniture and clothes. Perfect. Perfect. And I have one of your sister's bags. You do?

Very creative family. Very creative family. Yeah. On you right now? Don't you? It's right over there. there yeah I love those totes those are great yeah

that's gorgeous very creative family okay well this is a thing that's happening at this table older sisters younger sisters one of each and that is why

I'm gonna start writing Los Espookys with Julio because now there's a different alignment and you can do Las Culturistas okay yeah here we go that's why I'm gonna write start writing Los Espookys with Julio because now there's a different alignment and that is Duos Culturistas okay yeah

here we go that's why I'm gonna write Los Espookys with Matt Rogers yeah you guys do your own spin on

they're gonna let us write an episode yes let us be in the room yes please let us be in the room come on

just one week just let us do one let us do one episode Let us do one episode. It's so stupid that you don't let us write. Okay. I want to ask you about the live shows because Greta was saying that she did your guys' live show with you guys and Fred and Greta.

Yeah, we've been campaigning. Yes. Kathy, you're very familiar with this as the school Teresa is constantly hitting the campaign trail, riling up the bays. Absolutely. Anytime I would come back from touring with you last season, at work,

Hooli would just be like, how is the campaigning? How are the rallies? The rallies are going really well. The rallies are igniting. Everything's looking really good. Ignited. Yeah.

The loyalty. I mean, the people come. The people come. The merch. It would feel very like, I know it would feel it did have that vibe

where we'd go out and do it all it'd be like hello everyone how are we doing Dallas and also you kept saying I could shoot someone

in Fifth Avenue and none of you would do anything about it exactly and we have I have been every day no one's done a thing what have the lectures been like

fun fun they've been fun they've been fun we They've been fun. We'll play the trailer for the show up top. Then me, Julio, and Fred will come out and talk for a little bit. And then we'll all do solo sets and have whoever is also on the show and in the city that the show is in do a set as well.

Yeah. And that's it. A campaign? A rally? Yeah. A rally. Igniting. But a lot of people,

I think, thought that it would be about dismantling ICE. About dismantling ICE. Yeah. And it's the opposite of that. Yeah, right, right. We are raising funds

for ICE. Yeah, you guys want ICE back. We're trying to make our own private detention centers for profit. And you're going to make graphics that say

when an ICE agent shows up at your door just go. Just go, who is it? Hello. No, I think you were going to say that

the expectation from some of the attendees is that the show would be in Spanish, right? Oh. So are there people that don't speak English.com?

No, I think everyone's bilingual. Everyone's bilingual. Everybody. Everybody's bilingual. Everyone's bilingual. Everybody. Everybody's bilingual. All our viewers are bilingual. That is bilingual. Cory Booker's bilingual.

Marianne. Marianne. Marianne speaks Spanish. Oh, Marianne. I was literally just going to bring it up because you said it. And finally, I have awoken. Yes. You have been having Marianne takes.

And girlfriend, you are so wrong. And girlfriend, you are so wrong. Anna, what do we think about Marianne? and girlfriend you have so long. And girlfriend you have so long. Anna, what do we think about Marianne? Oh, she's so funny. I think my favorite thing about her whole night was talking about putting a man on the moon. When Daniel Kershaw said we put a man on the moon, he did not say it's one of my visions.

He said it and we did it. What is the accent? What is it? Mid-Atlantic. She's Mid-Atlantic, but she's from Texas. What is the accent? What is it? She's mid-Atlantic, but she's from Texas. No, she's mid-Atlantic, but then she's also like, it's like Diana Ross. It's Diana Ross, breath you like this. And girlfriend you were so long. I am going to call the prime minister of New Zealand and I'm going to say,

if you think that you can raise a boy or a girl in your nation, you have another thing coming because America has beauty and poetry in all its forms. Did you see the clip of her, I think it was in the New York Times, where she said one of the first things she would do was to call European leaders. And say, we're back.

The first thing I do is call European leaders and say, baby, we're back. I wish she had said baby, but she didn't. I'm sorry, who is the next, who am I calling next? Spain. Very well. Ring, ring. Hello, Spain.

We are back. We're back. Clink. Who is next? Who is next? She is... No, wait. Her...

What a breakout star. I mean, her campaign contributions doubled. So we will continue to see her. I have been saying that I... Now, I have been making a version of this comment, but I now have to see her. I have been saying that I, now, I have been making a version of this comment, but I now have to revise it. My son is in Marianne

hard. Yes. My son is in Marianne, my moon is Elizabeth Warren, my rising is Bernie Sanders. Wow. Okay, so yes. Definitely.

Your rising is Bernie, so your son, say that one more time. My son is in Marianne. Yes. Like, blatantly a Marianne. That means you, like, your is in Marianne like blatantly a Marianne that means your identity is Marianne my identity is Marianne

because I what I would offer to the American people are metaphors and harnessing energy harnessing the energy of love I would harness energy I would you know more amulets, less weapons.

Yes, yes. These would be my campaign promises. And then my moon is in Elizabeth Warren. Because that's where my heart is. And then my rising, I think, is in Bernie because I am perceived as feisty. And you're perceived as political and all these things. So Donald Trump, if you're listening, that's where Julio stands

in terms of the candidates. Donald Trump, if you are listening, you better sit down and put the tea away and just turn up the volume and hear that President Marianne is coming. I'll see you in the Donald film with all my love.

I'm obsessed with her. Did you know that she was Laura Dern's roommate? Yeah. What? Yes. Oh my God. I said there's a world where Renata Klein sees Marianne Williamson two times a week. Renata from Big Little Lies sees Marianne Williamson.

You're fucking running for president. Well, I fucking, I hope I'm still seeing you at three o'clock. That's not who Laura actually is no I know but he's a Renata but I yes I know that Laura

I would be interested to know if that was a contentious roommate situation because everyone's like oh my god can you be everyone's college roommate everyone hated sure

was it college that they were I think they were college roommates that's I think the narrative I know Coltrice doesn't drag me I that's wrong. Laura, I just want to say if you could clean up the dishes when you're done using them,

that would be absolutely fantastic. The love in this apartment is just sipping away with you not cleaning the dishes. She is. Oh, my God. I think. Oh, no, I don't have one yet. It might be time. Oh, no.

It might be time for I Don't Think So, Honey. It's fine. Now, here's the thing. Our guests have come, sorry, but unprepared. And here's the thing. But I did come prepared. Is a troll bowl applicable? We can do a troll bowl for you.

Yes, absolutely. I mean, we could. Didn't we do it yesterday? We did it for Solomon Georgiou. I think I have an I Don't Think So, Honey. It's kind of boring, but it's a really earnest one. I love earnest. I want to hear,

to quote our host, Anna, go off. Go off. Although Anna, we have to say Anna is the innovator of I don't think so honey because she was at our first live show.

Yeah. Famously did I don't think so honey, I don't think so honey. Because you only get one minute. I don't think so honey one minute. One minute. Yeah, I don't think so honey one minute. Yes, yes, yes, exactly.

And honestly, she's right. I think she gave one of the first meta I don't think so honey. I think One minute. I don't think so honey one minute. Yes, yes, yes. Exactly. And honestly, she's right. I think she gave one of the first meta I don't think so honey. I think it was maybe the first. The first. She paved the way for all the meta I don't think so honey. Truly.

Exactly. I have one. Great. Yeah. This is Matt Rondre's I don't think so honey and his time starts now. I don't think so honey

the flavor of grape. Oh. I think this is a bad flavor. I think it is absolutely ridiculous that it is one of the prominent flavors i think that cherry is obviously the best flavor now i don't want to make this uh uh and i don't think so honey about grapes which i actually think are very good and i actually even like green grapes and purple grapes like them all but do you get the energy and the flavor of those grapes when you taste grape the flavor i don't

think so honey so here's the thing 30 seconds grapes are good they're fruits and they're actually healthy for you grape the flavor in terms of candy i really don't think so honey because it doesn't match well wait what what there's a specific thing that is grape that is... Juice. I don't like. Grape juice, disgusting. Grape soda, disgusting. It's a 15-second thing that is great. Oh, grape lollipops, disgusting. Also, grape, sorry, but it rhymes with a bad word. Five seconds. We don't like grape.

If you come to me with a flavor of grape, get out. And they're also famously the worst Skittles. Get them out of the bag. And that's one minute. I love that. I find that grape Skittles, that's what I wanted to do. I really wanted to... Because honestly, you really run into a problem when you're opening a bag of skittles, I find.

Because I don't know whether or not to just eat. I don't want to leave the grape skittles. And they're bad. You guys like grape? I like grapes. I like grapes. Yeah, but I'm saying. But grape flavor.

Grape flavor is horrible. So listen. I don't hate it as much as you do. Well, but I'm saying grape flavor. Grape flavor is horrible. So listen. I don't hate it as much as you do. Well, that's okay. Maybe you can honestly, I'll mail you all my grape Skittles then from now on. So I don't know.

And tell me what you guys think. Let's crowdsource on this. So when you open a bag of Skittles and you see that there's numerous grape Skittles, like do you eat them first to get them out of the way? Or do you save them for last but then you have the aftertaste of grape? But why do you have to eat them at all if, do you eat them first to get them out of the way or do you save them for last

but then you have the aftertaste of grape? But why do you have to eat them at all if you don't eat them? because I feel wasteful if I don't eat them. There's no eating,

there's no consumption order. You can just eat a grape Skittle as you come across it. I don't eat Skittles. Well, that doesn't surprise me. But, I do find it

moving that you are so burdened because there's such a beautiful irony here where it sounds like you like Skittles and yet you dread the homework that comes with them the chore that is eating and then so you're faced with

well do I get it out of the way to enjoy my Skittles do I blissfully eat all the other colors knowing that the looming cloud of grape is coming? Right. Yeah. I think that there's

actually a feature film in this. There's a feature film in this. There's four options. Well, actually, we have, so here's how I enjoy

my Skittles. I think the cherry Skittles are absolutely amazing. I think that they are gourmet. Do they taste different? So all Skittles taste different? All Skittles taste different.

Have you never had Skittles? I don't think I have. Julio. I have a big sweet tooth, but I don't like Skittles. Really? Do you like M&M's? No. What do you like?

Well, since I've been vegan, I can't eat a ton of... You like vegan treats. But as far as candy goes, I loved gummies. But now vegan gummies, I don't really eat them. But I do love... Because gummies have gelatin. But vegan gummies are they powdery

or something the texture's just not the same I mean you can get like Sour Patch that's about as close as you can get to that but they're not great

I just I mean I like cookies and cake and stuff like that this is also informs a potential plot point if we're lucky enough to do a second season

of Loser Spookies in which Tati gets locked in a bakery all night and she eats and she eats and she eats and she becomes so big that her sister can't push her

out of the door the following day. This is the narrative arc for this. This is perfect. Here's a question for you. Do you eat Starbursts? I don't like Starbursts either. I've never... When I ate candy, it was gummies.

Gummies. See, Sudi loves Haribo gummy bears, and I don't understand them. I love those. The sour ones. I don't understand that. I don't speak that language. The powdered ones?

The sour gummy bears. Here we go. Do you eat anything sweet, Julio? I'll have... Yeah, I like dark chocolate. Dark chocolate. Dark chocolate. We come from two different worlds. I've acquired the taste. I love a milk chocolate. anything sweet Julio I'll have yeah I like dark chocolate dark chocolate dark chocolate we come from

two different worlds I've acquired I love milk chocolate I've acquired the taste for dark chocolate milk chocolate is too rich now he goes

oh and he turns his head when I was little I liked white chocolate and then when I even when I was a teenager I preferred dark chocolate to milk chocolate

really to me dark chocolate is just like two it makes me feel like but no if you like beer then you should like dark chocolate is just like two. It makes me feel like... But no, if you like beer, then you should like dark chocolate because it's got body. It's got like...

Because as you grow up, it's like wine. It's got such depth of flavor. Maybe I've just been denying myself that I like it. But here's the ranking of the Skittle flavors.

Cherry is the best. Orange is the second best. Yellow, lemon, is the... Then comes in third. the best. Orange is the second best. Yellow, lemon, is the, then comes in third. Then green, which I don't like.

And then grape, which can, as far as I'm concerned, be banished from the planet Earth. You have four options. That's a great ranking. And I think I have the same ranking. But these are your four options.

You eat the grape Skittles first. Okay. You save them for last after you eat everything else. Yeah. You don't eat them at all. Where you eat them in random order. You don't have to like... Honestly, most of the time I do.

I have like a thing where I like to sort them and then eat them. Oh, wow. I don't understand these sorters. That was my next question. Do you separate the other colors and decide what order to eat them in as well? Sometimes I find it to be a great thrill

to empty all the Skittles out onto the table and then sort them by color. Wow. But this is riddled with stress, though, because you know that there is a part of it that you don't like. Maybe that's part of why I do it. I think you're searching for stress in things that shouldn't be stressful. Okay.

And that's a great assessment. The way you sort, you just sort by color. You separate them by color. I will just separate them by color and then I will eat them like by color. So interesting.

By flavor, really. It's not about color. Right. But people who do this with like M&M's or Skittles. It's foolish to do it with M&M's. It's foolish to do it with any of them.

No, it's not Bowen. I think just eat them as they come. But like I had a boss who would like on calls or something like I had a boss who would like on calls or something like I would sit in her office

with her she would empty a bag of Skittles or M&M's even there's no use in doing that but like she would do

she had this I'm not gonna say like the acronym of like OCD or anything but it was like this thing where it was like she would take a collar like a red Skittle

and then the rule was she had to do um three she explained to me the system three a triangle of red around the center red that's then do alternating colors of everything else had to be the and then it'd be a hexagon of it's it's truly i'm not even gonna bother explaining it it was just truly that sounds like she's looking for stress where I need to be you're so

you're pretty close to that I am not it's a stressful process I think it is you're glaring at me I'm merely separating them by color because I don't want

my flavors to get confused there's nothing worse than flavors that get confused but your mouth would differentiate the flavors in your eyes flavors that are confused it's a rule of differentiate the flavors in your eyes. There is nothing worse than flavors that are confused. It's a rule of culture.

It's a rule of culture number 96. There's nothing worse than flavors getting confused. I was also that kid where none of my food could be touching. I feel like you probably were the same. I mixed. You mixed? I always mixed everything. I love that.

Wait, there was also another sentence that you said. They're like, I like grapes. I like them all. I like them purple and green. Okay, this is... Purple and green. Well, yes, that is how I feel. And I also want to say one more thing, which I forgot to say,

which is I think purple is one of the most fabulous colors. Yes. And for it to be associated with the disgusting flavor of grape, I think is ridiculous. You don't like purple? I... No. What color do you like

clear clear oh yeah you're a you're a clear bitch wait no I just I just remembered something funny that Miss J said last night

that I feel compelled to share what did Miss J say say so she was she was suggesting that she wanted to do trivia yeah you loved this I loved this I thought about it as soon as I woke up again she was suggesting that she wanted to do trivia. Yes, you love this.

I love this. I thought about it as soon as I woke up again. She was suggesting that she wanted to do trivia. And then someone asked, well, are there prices? And then she goes, there are prices. I have prices. I have things. Things you would like.

There are prices. There are prices. I have things. I have things you would want. Things that you would want. I have things that you would want I have things that you would want I have things that you would want I have prizes

I saw you laugh I have prizes I have things I have things that you would want I think you use that as a line somewhere and we'll credit Miss J things you would want

get Miss J as a consultant Miss Jade as a consultant yes for season two wait when Julio turned his head, I don't know earlier, at what again?

He scoffed at me saying that I love... Love Starburst or Candy or something? Starburst or something. This was a very, one of your favorite films. Oh, do not get me started. So the two year anniversary of Queen of Ice versus Queen of Gold was in April. Queen of Ice versus Queen of Gold,

which is Julio's alternate title for Snow White and the Huntsman. No, no. No, no, no, no. The Huntsman, Winter War. It is one of my favorite movies. That is when I discovered the culture was culture for me. So. You have gifts at the ready for this.

Clips of gifts. Yeah. Yeah. So. Charlize and Emily Blunt, right? Yes. It is the sequel to Snow snow white and the huntsman the live action snow white movie yes and in this film uh it is a film about two rival queens yes

charlie's there i'm playing the queen of gold versus emily blunt her sister playing the queen of ice yes one is gold the other one's ice It's not fire and ice it's not gold and silver it's gold and ice There's so many beautiful moments in that film One of them is the queen of ice looking

into the mirror and going mirror mirror of them all who's the fairest of them all and then Charlize Theron steps out of the mirror and she goes does this answer your question oh my god but the moment that bowen you're referring to is so if you want to know what the drama is behind behind the two queens why they hate each other is because the queen of heights drama drama girls are getting sassy once you murder the baby

she truly went off so okay so in this in this long scene in this flashback yes because I should say

that this movie is both a prequel and a sequel yes to really no one in the hunt so okay

so the movie it's like some of the movie takes place and then a crow flies into the lens and the Huntsman. So, okay. So the movie, it's like some of the movie takes place and then a crow flies into the lens and the narrator says, and then the tale of Snow White happened. And then we ease back into the movie.

Again, both a prequel and a sequel. So in a flashback, the Queen of Gold carrying a torch goes to like some henchman as he's sleeping she puts his hand over him and she goes murder so then

the man goes with the torch and torches the baby torches the child of the queen of eyes and then as Emily Blunt is rushing to see what that what the commotion in the cradle of her child she rushes back the queen of gold who has set this up charlie and charlie's theron the camera stays on charlie's theron who doesn't do a full turn but like a

maybe like a one quarter turn to to look at Emily Blunt. She's just like, can you do have it on your phone? Because I think it's... I might not have it ready on the phone. We'll pull it up after the recording. Just the way that she looks back is just like... The smallest like... Tilt.

Like she didn't just kill her baby. Like she just had like a catty thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. LOL. It's true. Oh my God. There are lots of gifs of them screaming at each other and like gold and ice rushing.

Yes. I haven't seen the movie, but now I must. Now you must. A lot of scenes of Emily Blunt looking at the ice cradle, empty ice cradle of her baby. Is there a winner at the end? Don't spoil. I won't spoil.

Well, is there a winner? There is a clear winner. This movie has really informed so much of your work and I think you would, I think you would accept that. Crows, ice, elements. It just has a lot of things. And I've said this before, it's a

perfume ad turned into an action film. Yes, and I love any movie that's a fragrance commercial. It's primarily a fragrance commercial. That's perfect. A song of ice and gold. A song of ice and gold. Alright, well, Bowen Yang, it might be time for your I Don't Think So Honey. Yes, I think it is.

And that means it's time to put one minute on the clock. This is Bowen Yangs. What, bitch? Yes, okay. This is Bowen Yangs' I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey, when you react to my Instagram story,

and then I think, what's this? A message? I get to read a nice little speech bubble, and no, it's just an upward shower, a vaporized fume of, you know, heart eyes or something. And, you know, it's very, I experienced this several times a day and it's anticlimactic every single time. And I really hope that people out there really learn. 30 seconds left.

To, you know, use their words. I think words, we cannot let words go extinct. And I think we are on this path. And, you know, I will harness words for political gain. Yeah. And Mr. President. 15 seconds. If you're listening.

I will harness words for political gain. I will meet you on that field. What about love? And sir, words will win. And love will win too. Five seconds left. Yeah, just send me, just type out something like, oh my God, fun. And that's one miss.

I'll do the same for you. Oh my God, fun. Oh my God, fun. Oh my God, fun. Something that you get to read like, oh my God, fun. Oh my God, fun. I love reading oh my God, fun. Yeah, honestly, I agree.

I think it's rule of culture number 98. Type it out. Use your words. Type it out. Use your words. Type it out. You know, I will say I am guilty of sometimes hitting just doing the emoji, you know? I think I've done it to everyone at this damn table. And to Emma.

Hot producer Emma, too. Okay, I think it's time for Anna Fabregas. I don't think so, honey. We think it is. Okay. So are you ready? I'm ready. This is Anna Fabregas.

I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. We think it is. Okay. So are you ready? I'm ready. This is Ana Fabregas. I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Crowded bars. I hate walking into a bar that has not only every seat filled, but people standing and taking up room and you can't hear each other. And there's loud music. I know that some people

don't like to go to a bar that's not crowded because they think it's boring. But if I'm going to a bar, it's because I want to talk to who I'm with. So I would like for that bar to be to a bar that's not crowded because they think it's boring. But if I'm going to a bar, it's because I want to talk to who I'm with. So I would like for that bar to be empty. And that goes not only for bars, but for any venue for nightlife as well. If there's too many people, I'm not going to have a good time.

If I show up and it's empty, great. If people start to show up, I'm going to leave and I'm going to hope I can find a place that is still empty. Absolutely. 15 seconds. Or better yet, maybe, as I'm saying this, I'm like, should I just stay home to see people? But yeah, I just don't like people being loud. There's more drunk people when it's more crowded.

I just urge everybody to be mindful of where they choose to congregate yes and that's what I meant and also I completely agree with you I only like bars

where I am like concerned whether or not they can stay open like because there's no one there truly yeah

and you know I'm trying to think about scale here and I feel like when you travel let's say you travel to Buenos Aires let's say I'm thinking you know it's gonna be great it's gonna be I'm trying to think about scale here and I feel like when you travel let's say you travel to Buenos Aires

let's say I'm thinking you know it's gonna be great it's gonna be I'm gonna have space I'm gonna have space to do things I wanna do but then you get there

and then the people ruin it or just the crowds and then it's kind of the same concept where you're like I should've just stayed home also if I'm at the bar I probably wanna drink

and what people tend to do in these spaces is there's like you know there should be seats at the bar but then people they congregate up yeah then you can't get a drink you can't get a drink which i've done i don't think and everyone's bumping into you as they're walking through yeah there you go yeah the worst thing you could do

the worst thing you could do is order a drink and when you get it remain yeah at the bar this is not the transaction. This is an animal house. Blocking access. And her rega colon in search for an empty place. That's your memoir. Yeah. I was thinking about a memoir

yesterday because I think it's funny when people that are like have not even lived half their lives are like going to write a book or something. yes yes you must share with us all your memories yeah um but i was saying i tweeted about this but i was thinking about one um called undeniably me and then colon how i turned a hundred dollars into 400 quarters beautiful two different ideas. But just someone calling their memoir undeniably me. Undeniably me and then the subtitle being that.

Yeah, it's good. Absolutely. Two different ideas coexisting. Julio, would you like a troll bold or do you have a topic? I think I have a topic. Yeah, I am excited about a topic. He's rubbing his thumb across his fingers. You know, I took out my rings

because I can't do any proper thinking or engaging with my rings on this. Right. I discovered. Wow. I only put my rings off at night. My favorite line in text. There were multiple takes of that

because the actor who played the boy was really being very methodical about just peeling the rings off. And 80 was very patient. 80 was just like, and she just 80 was a pro the whole time. You know, 80 Bryant is a pro you know that she, you know, you can recognize

a pro when she doesn't flinch at a boy taking her rings off. I would flinch, you know, because I'm not a pro. Not to her. Not to her. So this is Julio Torres's I Don't Think So, Honey. He's ringless.

His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. The key emoji not being proportional to the door emoji. What? If I am trying to convey an idea through emojis. Yes. And I say, and I'm trying to use the door emoji as a metaphor by saying something like oh, I have finally accessed

that idea. Or I finally have access to this. And I put the door emoji and right next to it I put the key emoji and the lacy, lacy, lacy people that make these emojis, make them both the same size. I'm suddenly conveying I have a door and a giant key.

I don't have a giant key. I have the key to that door, and that key does not open the door if it's the same size of a door. Unless you're trying to convey that you're gonna tear the door down with the giant key. No. I don't think so, honey. The key not being

proportional to the door. The key ought to be so small, you can barely see it in door yes the key ought to be so small you can barely see it in the text it ought to be and that's one minute now i have a question for you julia what about every other emoji yeah what about every other emoji should they all be proportional i don't really grapes being the same size as the dancing girl yeah i don't go anywhere near the grapes i don't go anywhere near the dancing girl The only emoji that I am concerned with are the key and the door. Or what about like another N.A.? Come on, no.

But what about like other emojis that like you would like partner together in order to like create a story or a narrative? Yeah, like one of those peaches and the eggplant. The eggplant. I don't use any of the eggplant. I don't use any of the fruit. I mostly stay with the fountains and the hourglasses and the doors.

A note. I think that you may be disregarding perception. Death perception. I'm sorry. So you are saying. Yes. You are saying that Apple thought, well, okay, so one holds the key closer to one's eyes.

Yes. And the door is always farther away. I would take that if they would finally make the emojis overlap. Okay. Okay. Oh. So that you could put one in front of the other one. You do it on Instagram. You could shrink the key on an Instagram story.

You could. I guess I could. This is a lot of work. Yeah. You bring up a very interesting point, and I think this discussion is ongoing. Well, I'm just saying it's always... This discussion is frankly ongoing. Well, I'm just saying it's always this discussion will continue. But can you imagine the chaos of a text conversation

if all the emojis were proportional? You could never say that. It would be hell on the eyes. It would be hell on the eyes. You would make a full piece of art. But imagine text in there too. That's when

you'll have huge open spaces for the door and the text down at the bottom and all the dead space up top. It would look really ugly. Anna, as a Photoshop whiz, you understand visual art more so than any – Well, you Photoshop. You understand what I'm talking about. One of the queens of the stuff. You're right. We tell you, you have to consider the negative space.

And there'll be a lot of negative space created. Consider the negative space. Consider the negative space is rule of culture number 50. Consider the negative space. And also, when we're talking about the stuff with the emojis, it actually brings us back to rule number 98, which is use your words, type it out. I think this discussion is ongoing. This discussion will continue.

And Apple, if you're listening. Well, Unicode. It's Unicode. It's the company. Wait, I'm sorry. The organization. It's called what? Unicode.

Unicode. They are responsible for emojis? They all get together and they decide what the new emojis will be. I think there's summits and conventions now. There's emoji summits. I think you guys have to go speak at these. Oh, wow. I wish there was a marble emoji.

There is a candy emoji that looks like a marble. But it's wrapped in selfie. It's wrapped. Anna, I will never forget, invented an emoji that I need, which is open mouth grin wearing the cowboy hat. No, that already exists. You're putting the cowboy hat on the face. When it came out, I was just blown away by the cowboy hat and the decision to include it.

The cowboy hat, yeah. Because what does it convey? A happy cowboy. Cowboy. An's a cowboy hat. Yeah. Because what does it convey? A happy cowboy. A cowboy. A cowboy. An ecstatic cowboy. Yeah, but then I started putting it on other emojis

and it elevated everything. Every emoji. Yeah. It really does. Like sad looking down with a cowboy hat. It's like so much more sad than without the hat.

You're an emoji stylist. Yeah. Are there emojis with the newsboy caps? No, there's not a newsboy We need to inspire them from Tati. I think there's the there's the painter who wears

a little beret. I see, I see. Not a newsboy cap. There's a brush and an easel, I think, in the picture. Right? And it doesn't look that proportional. I think you two should demand invitations to the next Unicode Summit.

Emojis I need. We keep saying this because this is the title of a... A sketch that Julio wrote. A sketch, a defunct sketch called Emojis I need. And it was just a list of emojis I need. It was a voiceover. I think it was Kit Harington. Who read the emojis I need.

Who read emojis I need. Who read the emojis that Julio needed. It was pretty much like Kit Harington. This is a list of emojis that Julio needed? It was pretty much like Kit Harington. Like, this is a list of emojis that Julio Torres needs. That Julio Torres needs. And then the whole staff at SNL just at the table were being like, okay. Yes. Yeah.

It was received like the best of my work with a, okay. Okay. Wow. This has been a very special episode. A tremendous episode. and Los Espookys is on HBO on Friday nights at 11pm and on HBO

go 24 hours yes all the time anytime you want even on HBO now HBO now HBO now is like a la carte

do you think we could get have you gotten a password yet no we should get HBO we should you guys should get HBO we should get HBO we've been joking about we don't have logins can we please get logins should you guys should get HBO we should get HBO we've been joking about

we don't have logins can we please get logins and they're always like haha okay and they're like no we mean it it's as simple as them just making an account

for like some oh my god that is shocking no I think they think we're kidding yeah but it's true I think they think

we're kidding but I also don't have a TV because it doesn't go with anything in my apartment well I don't have it but you can just do it on your laptop yeah oh sure so HBO Now is a la carte HBO Go is tethered to your what is a la carte I also don't have a TV because it doesn't go with anything in my apartment. Well, I don't either, but you can just do it on your laptop.

Yeah. Oh, sure. So HBO Now is a la carte. HBO Go is tethered to your... What is a la carte? A la carte. A la carte. It's like you just... You say,

I want to watch Big Little Lies. I don't need a sharp object. Yes, yes. So you just watch the ones that you want to watch. Oh, oh, oh. Because HBO Go is like... It's the whole deal.

You have a subscription to your cable service. Yes. And then that's The app supplement I think I have both Then you gotta cancel one Because you're paying You're paying

So much I'm also using My old roommate's dad's HBO Well meanwhile I have my own HBO Now account Which means that

My money is going Directly to Julio Torres And Anifa Berega Is it? Well well well I think so I don't know how that works You guys get More money per subscription I think that's how it works Is it? Well, well, well. I think so. I don't know how that works. You guys get more money

per subscription. I think that's how it works. Is it? That's not how it works. They probably signed it. This is new to me. I demand that's how it works. I think that they signed a contract

and they made the money that they made probably as EPs, writers, and stars of the show. That's probably how it worked. And that's the biz. And that's the biz. But we each were responsible

for bringing HBO at least 100 new sign ups yes we're trying yes can you please sign me hi

we're actually in it yeah it's not about that but we're actually we're actually in it so you know it's fun it's really fun

my actual thing I would love to do if we do a season 2 is a euphoria-inspired episode. Yes. Where the series get fucked up. Fucked up. Oh, my God.

The Losers Queens get fucked up and they have sex. Someone cuts himself with a knife at a party in front of everybody. Oh, God. That happens? That's in the pilot. That's just fucked. Sorry, HBO. Hunter Schafer is incredible, though.

I don't know who that is. Is that the blonde girl? Yeah. She's so good. And Eric Dane puts on a condom. Oh, I do like Eric Dane. Eric Dane

puts on a condom. You see his penis? It's a prosthetic penis, but you see him. What's up with the, I don't think so many prosthetic penises. Show the real thing.

Save it for next time. Anyway, thank you for being. I think you found your I don't think so, honey. I think I did. Thank you for being on this program.

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