Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "The Kunis-Kutcher Vaccine" (w/ Tawny Newsome)

Episode Date: May 27, 2020

Gonna have to BLAST OFF on that one! After Matt and Bowen spar over the cis gay culture of the moment, they reunite with the wonderful Tawny Newsome, who stars in the new Netflix comedy "Space Force." Want to hear who Matt absolutely ships on the show? Then listen, doll! There's heated discussions on gifted and talented programs, believable conspiracy theories, and America Ferrera throwing the first brick at Bradley Whitford's house. Plus, Tawny shares her recent appreciation of Stevie Wonder records as she drops wonderful tidbits of Motown history. A must-listen for many reasons! Check out "Space Force" on Netflix premiering May 29th. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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uh okay uh you know what are you trying to drag me for saying gay and not queer i'm so tired no that's it's corona no no this is not me coming you actually came for me seconds and i was examining i was examining like who is this song for because you know what because no this is fucked up here we go this roller coaster has begun you want to? Because, no, this is fucked up. Here we go. This rollercoaster has begun. You want to listen to something? Yeah, I want to listen. Yeah. I have not seen a single straight person care about Rain On Me.

A single hetero woman, man, in between. I cannot. They have not. No one cares about this except the gay men in my life. I have to break news to you. Okay. I brought this to straight woman, Greta Teitelman,

and also straight woman, Blair Saki. And I saw them in a social distancing capacity just the other night. And I said to them, rain on me. What are the thoughts? What are the feelings? And they said,

we love it. It absolutely slams. It absolutely is a bop. And they said they've love it. It absolutely slams. It absolutely is a bop. And they said they've been streaming it. Absolutely. And they said they've been streaming it. Okay. So what I'm saying is I actually think that this is bigger in the general sense than we think.

I think that us queers, you know, we defeat ourselves when it comes to this music because I think that as we all see. I wasn't defeating myself. Cover me in daisies daisies daisies is not necessarily number one even though it's one of the greatest songs i've ever heard of my life thank you you think daisies by katie perry the new true flop single it's not a flop i think it's an absolute flop i mean what happened there she really like came back with a vengeance with Never Really Over. And then like even Small Talk. I mean, talk about something the straights didn't care about.

The straights didn't help us at all with Never Really Over. And that was a bop in three quarters. Small Talk and then Harley's in Hawaii. Solid follow-ups. And then nothing. She really dropped the ball after that. It's insane. The disrespect that Katy Perry has shown.

And it's actually rule real culture number seven. It's insane the amount of disrespect that Katy Perry has shown. Because Cover Me in Daisies, Daisies, Daisies is a really good song. And I like when Katy does a mid-tempo moment. Yes, we love when Katy does a mid-tempo moment. He put it on me, I put it on. Like there was nothing wrong. Remember when I first thought that song was about unprotected sex but yes this is famously a bow and yang mistake to me mid-tempo no that is a ballad and this was a famous mistake that bow

and yang made and he rarely makes them and so it's their landmark when they happen he said to me he put it in me i put it on like there was nothing wrong it didn't fit it wasn't right and i was like and he and he said that song is about sex and i was like no it's about a wedding ring you absolute fool who should be put in prison or jail immediately incarcerated i struggled um in english classes in high school and i think that's kind of the connection there um english is famously bowen yang's third language despite his absolute mastery of it we should say bowen yang has an absolute mastery of the english language and that's actually a local number 22 bowen yang has an absolute mastery of the english language i think i just couldn't do

those katie perry lyrics couldn't decode them no of course i i'm gonna change things up like i'm clocking myself really using like discuss my my word choice is abhorrent and there you go i used a word that like that's fine to use the word abhorrent i know what that is here's you want to know the tea i'm reading some books right now where the authors are really trying to flex on their vocab, and I'm like, oh wait, I hate this. And I know that I do this all the time, and I actually, there's a little seed of self-loathing

in there where I'm like, I don't like this part of myself, this quality of myself. You know when it's like the reason you hate someone is because, the reasons you hate someone are reflective of the things that you hope other people don't see in you. Do you know what I'm saying?

Yes. Okay, this is going deep. But this is my whole relationship with, like, verbosity. Ugh, I hate it. I hate it. Yeah, but it's fine to say verbosity. We all know what that is. It's when you say things like jejun, where I'm like, see, jejun...

Cathected. I can't do anything... Cathexis. I know, you can't do anything with that. I can't do anything. Cathexis. I know, you can't do anything with that. I can't do nothing with this je june. I know. I can't do anything with this cathexis. Yeah.

As much as I want to. There's nothing I want more for myself and my life and my future than to wake up in the morning and say, today I'm actually going to step out into the world and probably what will happen as I use the word cathexis in a sentence. Confidently. And with the knowledge of the word. I don't have that thought in the morning, though. I'm sorry, it just happens.

It's because it comes naturally to you, hun. Well, anyway, the other bit of sort of gay culture is the Carly Rae Jepsen B-Sides album. I mean, God No! Flop City USA. God bless her for releasing it. Flop City USA, the world. The day before this Gaga single, like

she knew what she had to do and she did not execute that that one no this is the thing this is the thing about Carly Rae Jepsen she is not someone who is like cathected to eras to like new looks to like she's not gonna like go off on social media and like rant about

feminism like other other girls out there that did this week like she is just like here's a bunch of songs okay subtly calling about feminism like other girls out there that did this week. Like she is just like, here's a bunch of songs. Okay, subtly calling out Lana. Carly Rae Jepsen, this is what Carly Rae Jepsen does. She comes along every few years. She goes, here's a batch of songs.

Hope you like them. Dance. I love you. Bye. And she disappears. And it's just, there's no like self-serving purpose in it. It's just for her fans. It's a little love letter every time. And you have to love that. Well, you also have to expect some quality. And on this one. It's just for her fans. It's a little love letter every time, and you have to love that.

Well, you also have to expect some quality, and on this one, there's Nary a Hook. That's not true! And then, unfortunately, it actually got rained all over, you would even say on, by Rain On Me, by actually two amazing singers,

and their names are Lady Gaga and Ariana Grande, and you should know their names. And their names are Lady Gaga and Ariana Grande. And you should know their names. I use that. And I think that here's the ranking of all the songs that have come out. Rain On Me, number one. Okay. Daisies by Miss Katy Perry, number two.

Okay. The re-release of Glitter. Yes. You can't forget that Mariah re-released Glitter on Spotify. You're going to rank that after Daisies by Katy Perry? Daisies is one of the greatest songs in modern history. Daisies is headed to the Grammys.

Daisies is finally going to win Katy Perry that Grammy which she lacks. Oh, I can't wait for the Grammys. I'm being facetious you guys. Although I do like Daisies and I found myself listening to it six or seven straight times on a car ride home. Ooh. I can't wait for the 25% capacity Staples Center Grammys in 2021.

Ooh, baby. I can't wait for that. It hurts me to hear. I mean, it's true. It's what's going to happen. We need it to happen that way, Matt. Or they'll do it outdoors in February in LA. I'd like to see that.

You know, I would like to see something happen. And you know who actually reminds me of a full stadium? Our guest. Now, why do you say that? Why does she remind you of a stadium? She reminds me of a full stadium because she has the energy. She could play arenas. She could sell out arenas.

She could actually sell out arenas. Well, let me tell you something. After people see the new gig. Oh, girl. Well, let's just say this the socials are certainly going to jump and that's why we do this we need to prepare

this young girl because the socials are about to jump the Diana Silver's hive is going to come for this party actually I have to say Queen and I really worshipped her in Booksmart. I worshipped her in Booksmart.

And I worshipped her in Ma. Don't forget Ma. She was in Ma. I actually did not see Ma because I'm famously very afraid of that. No, it's really great. Just smoke a bowl and then watch Ma at home. It's perfect. Girl, that's what I did before the hunt.

I smoked a bowl before the hunt and then I almost threw up three minutes in because I got so scared. I told Betty I watched it from the kitchen. From the kitchen? Jared was sitting in the living room watching it, and I was in the kitchen, like, ducking behind the cereals, like, trying to look. It was so scary to me. Yeah, but where were you during the kitchen fight scene?

Spoiler alert, there's a kitchen fight scene. Were you still in the kitchen? I actually had sat down in front of the television for that because that was gay culture at that point. I had to sit for the gay culture. Oh, it's so good. That's such a good fight scene where you still i actually had sat down in front of the television for that because that was gay culture at that point i had to sit for the gay culture oh it's so good that's such a good front runner for title of ep you sit for gay culture um and let's let's just say that flat out and i think what we should actually do at this time is we probably bring in the guests because the guest is about to truly pop off and we knew we had to scoop her and she's a return guest she's a

return guest she had done popped off before i mean sure popped off but not in a list sort of look over your shoulder at a bunch of cameramen sort of way where i when the oscars are when the or when the emmys are held again in the 20 20 29 uh oscars emmys we're going to be seeing this young girl on the red carpets uh and they're going to be saying Tawny Tawny I can't wait for this young girl to be on the red carpets and for I'm going to be I'm going to be a pop and I'm going to I'm going to say a little paparazzi paparazzo

and go Trondy Trondy Trondy Newman Trondy Trondy Trondy Trondy maybe that is a front runner for title of Trondy Trondy Trondy Trondy Newman that's that's her Instagram handle I see it and it makes me Maybe that is a frontrunner for a title of app. Trondi, Trondi, Trondi. Trondi Newman. That's her Instagram handle. I see it.

At Trondi Newman. At Trondi Newman. I'm sorry. It's actually a real culture. Real culture number three. Don't forget the at. But I see the handle and I smile. My zygomatic muscles engage.

I smile. And we're back to the vocab. We're back to verbosity. But I smile when I think of A, the handle, B, this person. She's a star. Okay, let's go through the credits. We have to get through the credits. Go on!

Okay, okay. Wow. An icon, co-host of Yo, Is This Racist, a sister pod of ours, you could say. Friend of the pod. Friend of the pod. She co-hosts with the truly, truly, truly perfect Andrew T. Truly perfect comrade Andrew T. And let's just say a competitor on Game Show.

He lost. A competitor. He deeply lost. Yes. But actually, he was joined by the woman who gets it, who was our guest. Who was our, it's perfect. It's a perfect episode. This is a plug for Game Show.

This is a plug for Game Show. A bajillion dollar properties. She's a musician. She's a pop star herself.. A bajillion dollar properties. She's a musician. She's a pop star herself. That's why I said she would sell out arenas. Touring. Young girl who tours. Young girl who tours.

And now there's been a new gig. Yes. And it's called Space Force. And it's the new Netflix comedy show that actually stars Steve Carell, if you can believe that one. Actually stars John Malkovich. I think that's how you say his name. Have you ever heard the name Lisa Kudrow? Well, if you haven't heard it, that's crazy.

And second of all, she also stars in it as well. And also Miss Diana. Miss Diana, Miss Ben Schwartz, Miss Jimmy O. Yang. Can I say Ben Schwartz is kind of hot to me. Okay, let's unpack this later. Let's unpack this later. But I'm so excited our guest is here. She's a true icon.

And I was gagged when I saw how big the role is. And I actually have questions about the role because I have some theories about the role. Oh, okay. Let's dig into these theories. Everyone, welcome into your ears. Tawny Newsome! Truly, truly the most gracious, beautiful intro I could have asked for. You guys really warmed my heart. That's how we do. I know, but it was just, I know, but we know each other and it was just really very sweet. I'll never forget

when you came out of that cab in Vancouver and we said, Tawny? Tawny? Tawny? Again, you brightened a bleak week for me. You took me out. I got way too drunk. We talked trash about every living person in Hollywood. Yeah, and we actually

scalded hot, and we were safe because we were in Vancouver, famously not really an industry city. Sorry to Vancouver. Oh. Actually famously an industry city. I'm actually wrong about that. A ton of things shoot there. In fact, we were all there doing entertainment industry related things. We were all

filming different things. Yeah, it was wild. I'm LMAO-ing. I will never forget that moment because it truly like it felt like it was out of like a Hemingway book. Like we just ran into each other on the streets and then like got drunk at a bar together and talked into the night. And we didn't even have like a real plan because I was going in and you guys were leaving and we were kind of like well let's see each other later. We're going to a bar. And then the fact that it actually happened. I feel like in LA I would

see you then in 2024. Yeah. But the fact that we were in like a sort of lowly attended city. Not a lot of industry things happening there. Okay stop dragging Vancouver. That bar we went to was so cute you were there for jfl wait that was such a cute place that you went to and i love to sit at a cute place and drink a craft cocktail i'll say that oh yeah especially now that's a cool thing to say remember um matt

i texted you maybe one and one half years later being being this spring, to say, hey, I'm in Vancouver again. I'm very alone. I've been here almost 20 days. Do you remember the name of that bar? And you were like, girl, no. Can you imagine? I literally, I almost thought of asking you if you remembered, but I don't remember the name of a single place I even, like even restaurants in LA. I'm like, I love that place.

Forget it immediately. What is it with these people who are like into, like who can speak in locations? Like I've never, I love that place. Forget it immediately. What is it with these people who are like into like who can speak in locations like I've never been good at that either. I don't know places people like what do you recommend? I'm like, I can't I have to be I have to look at a map that I can zoom in and out of with my two fingers. I bet Tony knows restaurants.

Tony must know restaurants. I write them down but I wouldn't sometimes I remember like if it really left an impression, but generally I keep a little notes app of different cities you know so that when my friends come to me

I can be a know-it-all and be like oh you have to try the Sancerre at whatever and I can be a know-it-all in that way that's what I like to do

you have to try the Sancerre I am so bad like my parents were coming to Los Angeles and I had lived here for months and I had no idea where to take them.

And luckily, Jared, my boyfriend, is one of those people that's like, I know the names of restaurants. I know the names of activities. Yeah, it's just not a part of my brain. Well, good for Jared. I want to say, wait, where did you guys shoot Space Force? Because I love that it's supposed to be Colorado, but there's too many deciduous trees. There needs to be more pine. Wow.

Already dragging the program. I'm dragging Space Force. Perfect show. We did shoot it in Southern California, but it's funny. I look at that shit too because I'm very into nature. And so I'm like,

I know for a fact there's no Joshua trees outside of Southern California, but I don't think a lot of people know that. Watch now. The comments are going to be filled with people being like, I knew, but isn't that just like Hollywood movie magic?

Everything's filmed here. And we say like, this is France. And you're like, no bitch, that's Barstow. No, I get it.

I, I, this was a moment for me as a, as a Colorado and where I was like, Oh, I can actually like see if there are any indicators of the location and the fact that there aren't, I'm like,

okay, now I'm going to jump on this and be like, this is, this is definitely like in some out exterior location in Southern and that there aren't, I'm like, okay, now I'm going to jump on this and be like, this is, this is definitely like in some out exterior location in Southern and SoCal. Yeah. I just, I,

this, this was my one opportunity to be like, that's not Colorado because nothing ever, nothing ever takes place there. And you pounced on me and I did lay down and take it because you are right. I mean, ultimately,

ultimately what could you have said? I know. Truly like what? Get defensive about some shit. That's a lie. It's, it's, it's, it just, it could you have said? I know. Truly, like what? Get defensive about some shit that's a lie? It's, it's, it's, it just, it wasn't shot in Denver, Colorado. It would have been embarrassing for both of us because I would have been like, I would have had to like coddle you into like being like, like being okay with you just, okay, well, you're my guest.

I'm so sorry. Yeah, no. Yeah, you would have then had to take care of my erroneous feelings because my feelings weren't, would not be welcome in that instance because they were wrong. Also, the town itself is fake, right? There's no Wild Horse Colorado. I don't think there's a Wild Horse. I don't think.

I think Wild Horse sounds like the most made up name I've ever heard. Take that, Greg Daniels. In fact, it sounds explicitly like an improv name, Wild Horses. Miss Greg Daniels don't know shit about Colorado. He can't name a town. Not good. That's actually rule of culture number 34. Greg Daniels, he can't name a town.

Not good. Girl, your part is big in this. It's so good. You're so good in it. It is big, yeah. I had a friend confused about why my name came earlier in the credits than some of the other more famous people in the show this is a non-industry friend so he was like hey girl how come in the trailer

they mentioned you before lisa kudrow and jane lynch and i was like very fair question but to be real like i like i was watching it and i'm like oh this is like a tawny vehicle she's on the damn billboard no no no i mean there's there's i guess technically like there's five or six of us that are like the main main cast but there's so many recurring guests literally of like varying levels of fame that i think it's just gonna feel like a firework like a firecracker has gone off and every spark is a star very that i mean there's like scenes where they even like they'll just like cut to a huge guest star and they'll be in it for like four seconds and i'll be like

oh that was a that was a scene with jane lynch where she spoke twice and it was jane lynch thankfully she speaks twice a lot of times throughout the season yes i guess yeah it is it is wild how it's like, yeah, I mean, there's huge people in there. I guess because everybody wants to work with Greg. I think very much that and also Steve Carell. And I actually have to say, I have a theory. What's the theory?

Yeah, let's talk about the theory. Are you a love interest for Steve Carell? No! Wait, okay. Why do you clutch your pearls so? That is so funny to me no one's ever I don't think anyone's ever thought that I don't know

I thought that explicitly because we've seen the first three episodes you've gotten a little sneaky and thank you because Netflix said on behalf of Tawny Newsome here is the episodes and so thank you for that I was very excited for that gift.

Look, they said, who do you want to send this to? And I was just like, I don't know. Everyone's stuck at home. Send it to everyone. What are you asking me? Thank you for including us in everyone. Oh, yeah, of course. But literally, I think I only sent it to queer people and black women.

Well, who cares about everyone else? Everyone else doesn't even know Rain on Me. So allegedly. So basically, here's the thing. The show is super good and funny, and you have a very big part. And the reason why I thought you were the love interest, well, I don't want to give too much away. Explain it to us. Now that I'm saying this.

So, I'll explain this to you guys. Look, you can't get in trouble. I can get in trouble for getting stuff away. But what are they going to do? I mean, they did explicitly say in the email don't give away this one thing and i'm scared of giving it away oh you're gonna listen to an email honestly it was really actually it put a lot of emotional burden on me getting that email actually put a lot of emotional burden on me yeah because i had suddenly i had many secrets to keep oh no i'm so sorry um no but anyway suffice it to say there's like an explicit mention of steve carell possibly get

exploring a love interest and then you're in the next scene oh oh that's interesting it's funny i've seen these cuts a lot and i didn't put that together um no i can confidently say i am not nor will i ever be a love interest of steve's ever i think i reacted like that because i like am blushing because he's like he's the man and he's he is the man but you are the girl on the show that's that's i would actual tea it would be an honor frankly but no actually they they have they have better things in store for him than than me um someone on the internet though did think i was a love interest of his daughter diana silvers oh

yes so i guess i'm just like happy to be considered either much older or much younger than i am they just want to see you coupled with someone they want to see angela coupled interesting can you talk about your role in the show in the show yes i can and thank you for asking me to um we really just kind of floated around it yeah yeah no so i play a helicopter pilot stan it was very cool playing a pilot um one thing i nerded out about was that my amazing second team person, Krista, she is training to be a pilot. Oh! So, and there's not, like, a lot of, like,

5'11 mixed black girls running around Hollywood. So the fact that this woman is, like, she used to be an actress. She's over it. She just wants to, like, get her pilot's license and take to the skies. She was, like, telling me shit about, I mean, she doesn't fly helicopters,

but still, like, her expertise was very handy on set and we became friends. But I was just like, yes, brown girls flying shit and pretending to fly shit. This is a group. We actually are in the cockpit. Yes. But yeah, I'm a helicopter pilot who like transfers from the Air Force because she has secret dreams in the Space Force. And then she gets the detail of transporting uh the general around the so she it's it's it's your character's job to sort of ferry around steve carell yes for yeah

for the most part and then and then other things happen but yeah but no but they do become friends like i think what you maybe saw was like a spark of like them opening up with each other i think we're kind of supposed to be foils a little bit. Sir, I am blushing so much. What is this theory? There was chemistry, and that's the thing. It's all coming from me just loving him. I mean, look, that's actually not how chemistry works, dear. How does chemistry work?

Explain it. Well, here's chemistry. Here's chemistry. It's two people. And when they look at each other, there is a kineticism. And that's what you saw between Tawny and Steve. And I felt that, and guess what? They weren't even looking at each other in the scene.

They were merely in the same helicopter. They were facing the same way. They were facing the same way in a very artful shot. Let's just say that. It's a very artful shot. I actually really enjoy how fast the show moves. It's like the scenes are all super short. I will say this as a complimentary thing about the show.

It is very dumb. So dumb. There are some scenes where I'm like, oh my God. The second episode, there's this whole thing with a chimp in space. It's perfect. Incredible. I love it. Episode two is my favorite episode, maybe's this whole thing with a chimp in space. It's perfect. Incredible.

I love it. Episode two is my favorite episode, maybe because of that. It's just so silly, but also so well done. I feel like all the characters are just like perfectly in their weird little groove. Yes. So you saw one, two, and three. Episode one was directed by Paul King, famously of Paddington fame. So Paddington stands.

Check out Paul you know military work and then episodes two and three were directed by tom marshall who i love because he did the entire first season of chewing gum oh i just remember being like oh my god i thought it was so funny and the way it moved you mentioned it moving fast and i think a lot of that has to do with tom's directing style because he was real chill and chill and fly, which is the way I like to go. Yeah, it's like paced all the way up. It actually kind of reminded me in this weird way, maybe not directly, but it did kind of remind me the whole vibe of like Mars Attacks. Not that broad, but like but broad in a way that I liked, like where it was kind of just like it was really moving.

And the characters are like all goofaloof. Like Ben Schwartz is like insane. He's a full cartoon. He's an animated being. I love that though. I always want to see more stuff like that. The cartoonish Ben, cartoonish men.

Like just, well, cartoonish men. And also I love that. They really turn me on. I love a man who's like, I could draw him. And that's, it turn me on. I love a man who's like, I could draw him. And that's what makes me want to fuck.

You could draw Ben. I actually could. But what I mean is like, I feel like we've moved away from that sort of like big, fun, character-driven comedy to more sort of like intimate, like it's the famous SNL sketch of like,

watch the oldest sister in the family touch every book in the house. In a raucous comedy. It's like, you know what I mean? Like it's, that's, we don't see as much of it anymore and I really appreciate it. Well, it's fun to see Steve like go back to that too.

I'm sure this is like what every press thing has been like for you, Tani, where everyone's like remarking on it. No, it's been the literal opposite. You guys are a dream. Really? Oh my God. But no one's remarked on how Steve Carell is sort of returning to playing

the type that people are used to seeing him in? They do, but you guys bring the nuance. So it's a pretty... See, what we say is, well, first of all, his character was horny for you. And he was. And then I scream and die and cover my face in shame but also uh excitement i don't

know see me what's going on with your star trek show it's happening yeah it's happening animation takes so long so it's like on schedule and fine and i think everyone's like but wait did something happen and it's like nah dog we did that like so long ago yeah i'm on q force which is the netflix animated show that's coming out next year and it's it's like we worked on it um from december of last year to literally just friday was our last day and it's not coming out for more than a year from now you guys have time yeah it takes so long to be able to draw you know worlds characters it's hard you know like getting out your pencils and whatnot i don't know how animation works especially because they're making you draw your own character right i know it it was rude of them but you know what i they were like you can come in you can drink all

the la croix from the fridge you want so i was like this is a fair trade what kind of stuff did they give you to color with? Mostly just makeup, old makeup. They asked me to just smear around. That won't work. Zach Nye stuff. It's like bad stuff. Ben Nye, Ben Nye.

I don't know who's Zach Nye. Zach Nye is actually Ben's cousin. Zach Nye, you know. That's Ben's cousin. Zach Nye had a chicken franchise in the Kansas City area from about 79 to 81. Zach Nye's Flamin' Hot Chicken. Yum. Lightly breaded, juicily flavored, which didn't work as a tagline. If it's not good, don't come back.

That was their motto. And then no one did, and they closed. Yeah, and no one came back, and they were open for 45 minutes. But this is the okay, this is the thing though, like, even with the animated stuff, no one knows, no, I mean, whatever, this is not to, like, comment on, like, not to remind everybody about, like, our

current predicament, but, like, no one knows, like, how to do this quite yet, production-wise. Like, I was recording, like, scratch audio for a thing and I was like, you're not gonna use this. Like, you can hear my fucking next-door screaming in the background it's whatever yeah actually maybe it would be a fun addition to the project you never know they could always draw in that character in the back they can do amazing things with drawing and animation they can draw

a fun character in the back that's screaming and by they you do mean me. Like the actors are drawing ourselves. Yes, yes, yes, yes. That's actually a fun concept. Actually really is. Pitch it. Pitch it. I actually, I'm putting it out in the universe. Actors animate themselves. Very good. It's like it will look bad, but it will feel funny.

Yeah. But not be funny, which is sort of irrelevant. But you got to go to Comic-Con and stuff for everything, right? Yeah, I did last year when there was a Comic-Con. We went to it. I think that's why it feels like so insane because it was that was almost a full ass year ago that we were like, here comes a show. And then now it's a year later. The world has ended.

Kind of started up again, but over video chat. And now everyone's like, is the show still happening? And it's like, yes yes it's just you know i was talking to my producer on it the other day and he was really frustrated that there's all these articles i guess that are like animation the only thing thriving during the pandemic and he's like no it's still hard we still need people in the same room yeah it's like there's a certain energy when you're in the room and then when you're when you're trying to get on zoom it is like you know you find you can find the energy again but it is it is hard it's you're

not in the room with other creative people it's it is and like how many even just podcasting how many podcasts do you guys do where like everyone's set up everyone's a pro whatever but then all of a sudden they send you their audio and they're like oh i guess my computer crashed midway through so you know like the tech of it is wow the tech of it all i mean learning to do all this kind of stuff ourselves has been a little it's been education but now you know for the future yeah how to set up an audio interface on zoom not the software app but the hardware um but that's like the only truly this is my demented thought the only thing that's giving me hope or that's like the light at the end of the tunnel for me is like, oh, OK, like a trades announcement, like all the deals that are like being like put on like deadline and variety.

I'm like, OK, so I guess we're all sort of operating under the presumption that this will be over very soon. I don't know. Like, do you guys have that feeling? Yeah, but only recently. Right. Like, is it feel it felt like, you know, in early April, everyone was like, everything is maybe canceled. Also, like, maybe this never existed. Like, it was like, maybe we are in a simulation. I'm so sorry to tell you. And then only recently, it feels like people have figured out because even just like communicate, just like having a meeting like this got instantly so much more normal within like two or three weeks yeah so yeah maybe now people are like okay well let's start making some deals and pretending we're gonna make some shit i don't know i don't know how you get onto a film set after this i keep saying

that's the thing it's just like it's 14 hours of people touching your face and upper chest like what how are we gonna do that vary that i'm supposed to shoot something in July and it'll be a very, very small set. So I guess everything is kind of just like, it's like up to this certain project. But then I heard this crazy ass rumor and this is a rumor readers. And please, again, we should say Las Colteritas is not news.

It is in fact the opposite of news. It's mostly garbage, trash and wrong so but you know that um i heard there was going to be a vaccine in december okay no don't let's not what i don't know i don't know about that is that wrong i'm gonna have like hollywood news i thought you're gonna be like yeah yeah yeah oh no i have medical news i have fake medical news that's what i have actually to give no there might be i want like oh you know how mila kunis and ashton kutcher like made a wine like they're also starting a production company where you film it all from your house like i wanted news like oh no no no i think

ashton kutcher and mila kunis are hard at work on a vaccine the kunis kutcher vaccine honestly i would take it they've made a marriage work for this long i would trust their vaccine yeah i would too that's title of apis kunis kutcher vaccine the kunis kutcher vaccine is actually it's actually a front runner for title of app and i hope that people think it's real um and it might be my mom said i think i think my mom put it great the other day you guys she goes to me you know there's so many brilliant people in the world we gotta get one soon she's not wrong and i was like you're actually dead ass right. Yeah. Katrina.

There's so many brilliant people in the world. We got to get one soon. These children we've been pressuring and stressing out for them to like get into their, you know, upper testing schools and whatnot. We've been doing that at least 15 years. There's got to be some little doogie house or somewhere. Oh, you think a kid's going to do it? I think it's going to be one of these children that has been pressured.

It's going to be one of these gifted and talented children that's been pressured and tested into all the schools and just has full-on tearing his hair out at age 16, but he's going to figure it out. Talking like Bowen Yang. No, no, no. Saying, look, you're ubrious. Tawny, were you a gifted and talented kid?

Okay, I was, and so I am dragging myself yeah I was you have the vibe of a gifted and talented child well you all do wait do you not are you kidding me Matt you could get away with being gifted and talented but do you want to know my story

I just moved to the states in the fourth grade and my English was bad and so i did not qualify to be in the gifted and talented classes at my elementary school but one day i had to like courier like a note or something to like one of the kids who was in gt we called it gt and then i just walked into the classroom and the teacher um miss aaron this like kooky lady was just like hi hi, welcome. Okay, just take a seat anywhere and sit down at the computers.

And she assumed you were GT? She assumed I was GT. And I just was like, cool, okay, that means I get to play Mass Blasters all day and not have to sit with the other kids. And I just stayed there. And I kind of just scammed my way into GT. For how long? For like two years from fourth and fifth grade. Yeah.

So homegirl didn't check a roster for two years? Well, she just like assumed that I was in the class and she like and then like I don't know six weeks into the school year. She was like, oh, I forgot to add Bowen on on my roster. So this is honestly a yo is this racist question.

I yeah, it honestly is a yo is this racist question. Yeah. It honestly is a yo is this racist. That's what this is. Speak on behalf of Andrew too, Tony. Is it racist? I will speak on behalf of Andrew. I guess it speaks to that. I never speak on behalf of myself. I wouldn't dare.

I feel like it's one of those model minority things. Obviously, it's like, you know, Asian people must be smart. They must be good at math. Here's this smart, sweet Asian boy who's been entrusted with bringing a note. He must also be in this class. Yeah, I mean, I think like if a little black kid walked in, I wonder if she would have just been like, yes, please sit down. Or she'd have been like, how can I help you?

What was the ethnicity of the teacher, do you recall? She was white, but here's, I mean, I don't know if this is a useful texture, but the kid that I was delivering the note to was black. That doesn't matter. Interesting. So they did know black people existed. Well, no.

Well, no, I bring that up because Tani was like, if it was a black kid who walked in, would that have been the same? But this was like, I remember it to be a very- Bowen thought that would bring interesting texture. No, I- Bowen wanted to make sure I knew there were black people in this town and that was helpful context.

Yes, and not only in the town, but in the class. And so there. That could have been me. Can I tell my not gifted and talented story? And what we called it in my school was XL. XL. Oh. It was Excel. Excel. Oh. It was the Excel program.

The letters Excel or the word? No, E-X-C-E-L. Okay, great. Excel. That's what I called it. Like the Microsoft program. Basically like the Microsoft prog. So I had moved from another school and it was third grade.

I started third grade in a new school and i took the test and didn't get it by like two questions and my parents were like but he wasn't learning the same things as everyone else he is gifted we swear he is oh and they were like no absolutely not and so all the girls that were in the excel program because for some reason it was all girls all made fun of me and they were like like, you're not gifted and talented. And can you imagine just a bunch of girls coming to you every day after they would leave for 45 minutes

to essentially go play on a computer? Like, yeah, we had a really good time all being together. Us people who are gifted, and you aren't gifted. This did not happen. It did! I could name them. They singled you

out and came to you every day and we're like you're not with us this is what happened literally I was and this is the weird thing they had friends that were in the class that also were not gifted and talented who would make fun of me and be like yeah you're not gifted just because they were friends with them holy shit it was really sick you can't be gifted by proxy. That's what I was saying to them, but it was like a brick wall, Tawny. I just couldn't get through.

It was really, it was a Mobius strip, is what it was. Also, so in my school, it was called GATE, Gifted and Talented Education. They really elevated that and so that they could make a full word for people to say.

But I think it's so insidious to put the word gifted in these programs when this whole fucking country is based on telling your kids that they're special and that they're unique and everything so to say that some are actually gifted and some aren't of course it's going to divide it was ridiculous it was just an excuse to separate some kids from the other for the stupid reason and i remember it gave me such a complex and I was so distracted. Also, the word talented just doesn't never really like never fit. You know, it's like talent does not mean

intelligence. No, it actually doesn't because had they heard me sing. Oh, had they heard me sing? Had they heard you sing? Had they heard me sing and seen me perform? Meanwhile, fucking like a fourth grader, a fourth grader in the mid-aughts would have been led to believe that talent meant being good at Zoombinis. Bitch, no. It means you can sing.

That's what talent means. Talent is singing. And actually, it's rule of culture number 103. Talent is singing. And that's that on that. And gifted is understanding Excel spreadsheets on the computer. Yes. That's what gifted is.

Also, here's a pitch for a name of gifted and talented. Gape. Gifted and probably excellent. Oh. Gapey. Gifted and probably excellent education. Gape. Those gaping kids.

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with one of the great highlights of even doing this podcast which is when we spontaneously harmonized to tricia yearwood's walk away joe yes yes i remember that actually was a huge moment for me and i'm wondering if there's any new culture that you can share with us that might provoke similar moments like what are you kind of you know you heard us speak about the the incoming queer and gay culture that is rain on me we'd love to hear your thoughts on that and all the culture i was trying to think back i was like what was the culture i said on the last episode and right before we started filming i almost just said zooming i don't know i was like oh i'm zooming

i came on this podcast a whole black woman and said, Trisha, you're what I did. It was powerful. That's on me. It was powerful. It was a statement. It was political. But what is wild to me is that I feel like I changed. You know, I was one of those weird kids that just did whatever my mom did because I was an only child and I was a nerd.

And I just thought, like, my mom was the coolest person. So when she was into Trisha, I was an only child and I was a nerd and I just thought like my mom was the coolest person so when she was into Trisha I was into Trisha but the thing that's been coming up for me lately is a lot of Stevie Wonder because and I may have talked about this last time but also because his birthday just passed and I was reminded of this trip to the Motown Museum I took. I've been to the Motown Museum

four times. I love it there. It's in Detroit. It's in the original little house, the little Hitsville house. The first time I went, I just had this like transcendent experience. I was doing this bizarre overnight non-union commercial. This is when I still lived in Chicago and they flew me economy to Detroit. And I was like, the height of luxury getting flewed out to do a non-union regional commercial. And we filmed it overnight. So during the day, I was just this like zombie person where the rest of the cast would like go to sleep and order room service.

But I was like, I'm in Detroit. There's history here. So I was just like wandering around taking pictures of my hand and shit, like trying to soak in the city and so i went to the uh motown museum and this woman told me this beautiful story about stevie wonder when he was 11 and how um martha reeves used to put a dime on top of the candy machine and he'd run over and like he would hear the sound of the dime on top it'd be like when he was annoying her because he would sit in the waiting room waiting for a session to start playing the harmonica all loud and Martha of the Vandalists was a receptionist at the time and so she'd be like

I gotta get this kid to fucking shut up She was the receptionist? I didn't know that Martha Reese was the fucking receptionist at Motown, oh my god Yeah, she worked off her studio time that way, isn't that wild? It's like fucking UCB up in there Right? Sorry Worse

No, it was worse So she'd put a dime on top of the thing and he'd know to like go and feel for his specific candy which was a baby ruth it was always in the same like slot and he pulled out anyway so this woman told us this story the first time i was there and at that museum they have to like take you around like you can't just wander it it's like all a guided tour and then right after she started singing like knocks me off my feet or some stevie wonder song and i'm just alone a shattered tired woman who'd been talking about regional vodka all night the night before in an evening gown bought at macy's and so i just

started weeping in front of all these german tourists it was so powerful but i think that's because my mom always played stevie wonder and like it was the first stuff that I like would learn to sing as a kid because his voice was so melodic. And yeah. How old is he now? 70. He just turned 70 like last week. 70. See, he's like one of those legends that's like getting up there that I feel like people need to be, you know, asking them more questions, paying them more respect.

I feel like someone needs to sit down with Tina Turner, wherever she is, and be like, hey, let's get another long interview in the books here. Not to sound off any alarm bells about anyone's health. I hate when people do that. There's nothing more I hate than when everyone is like, where's Betty White? I'm like, leave her alone. She's 100 somewhere. Someone check on Joni Mitchell alone. She's, she's a hundred somewhere. Someone check on Joni Mitchell now.

Yeah. Oh, that's another one. They always do it with Joni. Poor Joni. Like literally, I don't think so, honey.

When people are like, I think the celebrity death that will hurt me the most is Joni Mitchell. It's like, don't predict a death. Maybe they'll never die. Who knows?

Maybe they're an alien. Or don't extrapolate your emotional response about a specific person. Maybe they'll never die. Who knows? Maybe they're an alien. Or don't extrapolate your emotional response about a specific person dying when they're still alive. I forget who it was. Someone tweeted one time like, okay, what celebrity death in the future would upset you the most?

And I was like, this is literally insane. I don't like this. I don't like this game of cards. I don't like this. No, it's not the game of cards I want to play. What happened to Go Fish? It's actually rule of culture number 46.

It's not the game of cards I want to play. What happened to goldfish? I almost said, what happened to oldfish? I'll tell you what happened to oldfish. You lost me there. Oh my god. Wow.

I feel like I jumped in and made it weird. No, no, no no it was perfect the thing is like you know us being so far apart we actually have lately been trying to do in sync stuff and that's actually proved a challenge if you can believe with the zoom i want to say that stevie wonder looked very good at the um sort of uh the big telethon thing that happened at the beginning of core looked very good and i i want to say like this is this it's so funny to bring him up i'm i listened to songs in the key of life like a like a week ago and i was like this is a huge album huge yeah it's a classic huge it fully slaps there are two weird downers on it that I'm not shy about talking about. Village Ghetto Land,

huge weird downer. Huge weird Baroque harpsichord sadness-powered wig downer that we did not need. I'm impressed with his skill. He could have left it. We didn't need it. And then

the one in Spanish, to me, the name is escaping. sings in spanish and it no um that is it's actually not french no it's the um um oh uh that one i know it feels upbeat and positive but listen to it and imagine that someone crying is singing and playing it and it fits too well like it feels like a depressed weird ballad where you're like you're trying to pretend that you're cheered up anyway so those are the two downers on the album um but otherwise it's perfect but you know my

favorite stevie album is what is hotter than j. And I would encourage you to listen to the first five tracks. Just like listen to them. Even on Spotify, they do this because the first two tracks, they do this cool blend thing, which with digital music isn't that impressive. Back then, huge. But back then on vinyl. And so I have it on vinyl. And when those tracks slam into each other at like the perfect BPM and it just like changes the whole vibe

I'm telling everyone go seek it out I gotta love a culture tip gotta love I have to say something I'm really embarrassed that I thought my Cherie Amor was Spanish I think had I even had two more seconds I would have known it was absolutely French and I want all the readers to know that

it's okay no one's shaming you that's fine I even had two more seconds. I would have known it was absolutely French. And I want all the readers to know that. It's okay. No one's shaming you. That's fine. No, I know that everyone kind of skimmed over it. But I just want to say I'm aware of it. And I rudely called you out when I'm a guest in your house. No, actually, that was actually really important because I learned and I grew.

And actually, in that moment, I grew. That's nice that you can see that, that you're not like lashing out um that's good that's that's growth man that's actually growth how has podcasting been going for you and core are you guys still doing weekly weekly of the you are still god bless you both doing weekly weekly we're doing weekly well you know what's wild is that um i was supposed to be i was supposed to be working and gone and so we've stockpiled interviews which now sound insane because we recorded them all in like January, February. And everyone's just like, what's what's so great about washing hands?

Let's all lick each other. Like all the content. I have to go through and edit just the most, most painful comments because I'm like, people don't want to hear this right now. Sure. Like, can you give an example of something that you cut out? Is that a fair question? Yeah, I feel like people were, oh, this is something I didn't cut out because it was actually funny and it made me sound stupid.

Normally, I try to only cut out shit that makes a guest sound stupid because we don't want that. But me, I'm like, I earned that. But I was talking about staying home and watching Netflix all day. And I was literally saying like, gosh, I just like, don't get sick ever. And I just miss like, you know, when you have the flu and you just stay home and binge watch things.

And I got so many tweets that were just like, how dare you? I know, I know this is insane, but I thought it was kind of funny. It's a benign remark. It's, you're not like wishing suffering on people.

You're just, you just happen to make like a you you remarked on something that you couldn't possibly have like forecasted i think there were a few early pods where some guests and maybe andrew and i i can't confirm or deny were a little too cavalier in like january when like the who was just starting to be like this virus might move past China and people were canceling trips and we were like who the fuck are these people canceling trips everyone go about your business and like we sound like assholes so we cut that I mean I I remember

telling Matt and Matt called me out on like our first episode over zoom that we recorded just him and I but I remember telling Matt back in February I was like look there's this antiviral called remdesivir and it's gonna be fine we're fine and truly now I feel like a total jackass Bowen did describe it to me at one point as just a bad flu he did

he did say that look at my feet in the frame you guys fun feet I like this casual little mermaid pose you've actually i have to tell all the readers every time you hear me on any of these episodes now know that i'm doing it on my damn belly wouldn't you rather be wrong early on in the thing and be like i couldn't have known that's insane but now i have since listened to experts yeah of course the people who like took it seriously at first and now they're like wait a

minute what if this is all a hoax? Yeah. Well, I think I actually can understand both sides because I feel like people being inside for so long, they do get so crazy. I did have a conversation with a friend recently where they were like, tell me you don't think it's weird

that it happened now during the election. Oh my gosh. And I was like, I'm not ready to do this one. It's such a traumatic thing that people don't know how to process it and we still don't. And so of course they're gonna like,

I don't know, glom onto like a theory that like is wild, but like, I don't know, gives them some sort of explanation as to why this is happening. Like the whole, like the 5G thing makes me laugh because... Oh, God. Well, the 5G thing makes me laugh because

we can already comment on how ridiculous this is. So Sam Jay and Gary Richardson wrote this sketch for SNL where Ego goes. Chris read his FaceTiming Ego, and Ego, he just got released early from jail, and he's like trying to like call up his old hookups. And then Ego's like, I'm going to lay low because after the government shut down outside because

they 5g stuff messed up and made a pandemic just that whole sequence of ideas and concepts is so funny and ridiculous to me like i don't know i mean i conspiracy theories are damaging and corrosive and bad and it's net negative always but like all i can do right now is what's one that you believe go okay now what's a conspiracy theory that you're getting into it i i don't think i can say it oh my god no we have to cut this is a good one we have to cut it out i'll go cut that okay. We can... Okay, we... You didn't say anything. We can bleep this. We can bleep what I'm about to say. Okay.

I think... You guys wish you heard what Bowen just said. But you never will. I have to tell you, dear readers, you shall never know what Bowen said, but it was a doozy and it was quite juicy. That's one that I believe I don't even fully believe it but I'm like it could have

it could have who knows I believe that there have been a lot of major pop culture events that were orchestrated by our intelligence committees and the reason I believe this is because I just listened to a podcast

called Wind of change oh i've heard about this taught me that the cia wrote that scorpion song that came out after the berlin wall fell down and i'm not gonna give any spoilers but like it made me start thinking about like they delve enough into other things that i'm like there are a lot of very opportune you know because music and art is so galvanizing and yes of course sometimes it's organic and it's right place and right time but some things were just too convenient so i've gone down a little bit of a rabbit hole with some things that i'm too embarrassed to know to specify but i do believe our government was like hey the way to get teens on board with you know western

values is like rock music or netflix for one jk oh my god dang dang window change it's i've heard about this podcast it's supposed to be really good um i thought you were gonna say like marilyn monroe like was assassinated or something but no that's oh i mean mine mine is that natalie wood was murdered yeah of course by one or both well i mean why one or both of those men i mean she kind of had to be right yeah i mean did you see there's like a i didn't watch it yet but there's a documentary out about her it's called like um natalie wood uh what remains behind yeah i haven't heard much about it but i saw that it was a thing and i was kind of fascinated i just think that's such a sad like

sick story that is so reeks of like oh oh, yeah, we just chose to believe the two very privileged white rich men who were on the small boat with her. Yeah. And only what, and like, I don't know. I think it's, there's something there. Anything that happens on a boat where like less people come back than went out, I'm like, you are guilty. I don't care what this was. Yeah, no. Whoever comes back is guilty.

Well, would they like us to ask the seas? How can we ask? We could ask the seas. There's no CCTV on the ocean. We actually could ask the seas. I'm a Pisces. I could go out there and speak to the waters. Oh, right.

We share this in common. I'm also a Pisces. Right. And you're a Pisces. I can go out there and speak to the waters. Oh, right. We share this in common. I'm also a Pisces. And you're a February birthday. Late Feb. 24. 24, baby. February 24th. That's a great day. You snuck right in that window before it shut with the birthdays, didn't you? Good for you. Did you have a bash this year?

I did. I went to Mardi Gras. So I'm dead now. Yeah. Oh, I couldn't believe it. You really got in under the wire. I mean, it was insane. I had no concept of how bad things are going to get. Of course, I would not have gone. And I went and I had an amazing time.

And I was like, I love this. This is great. And I flew back and I did get like a little weird sore throat that was like nothing to think about. And I just like because everyone was starting to be like, hey, if you feel sick, stay home. It never crossed my mind that I could have gotten the thing. No, because I emailed my doctor and told her my symptoms. And she was just like, I think you just got like tired from screaming and drinking and Mardi Gras. And I was like, fair girl.

I'm going to lay down for a week. I love that you always whenever you tell your doctor, fair girl, I'm going to lay down for a week. I love that you always, whenever you tell your doctor, like, hey, I'm concerned about this thing. And they're like, oh, probably you had sex too hard. Stupid. Stupid. I told my doctor once that I accidentally did meth and he was like, don't do that again.

And I was like, okay. I was like, will I die when my teeth fall out? Did you know that Bowen accidentally did meth one time? No. I've told this story like a bajillion times. It's actually one of the best stories that actually exists. Basically, I was just tricked into doing meth by a visiting Taiwanese businessman.

That was it. That was it. And then I had sex with him. It was during a hookup. It was during a hookup. Congrats on your conquest. But I have a question. I'm unfamiliar with the method one does meth.

So what did you think it was? So I truly... This is where it gets interesting, actually. This is actually where it gets a little dodgy for me. I didn't know, like, what... I didn't know, like, what this drug use was or looked like. So I, like, you did not know how people did meth.

Like, the means and the instrumentation around meth. And so it was just, like, he asked me if I had poppers. I say no. And then he goes over to his duffel bag and pulls out like a glass pipe. And then like a little bag full of flakes. And then he like loads the bulb. And he's like, here, smoke this. And I was like, okay, what is this?

And there was a language barrier. And he was like, I don't know what you guys call this in English. And then I was like, is it opium? So he of course smoked it. I go, is it opium? And he goes, what's that? And then I felt. That would have been my first thought. I felt racist I go, is it opium? And he goes, what's that? And then I felt... That would have been my first thought.

I felt racist for assuming that it was opium. And then I smoked it because I was like, well, it's probably fine. And then afterwards, post-coitus, he was like, oh yeah, basically he was like, people call it tea, Tina. And then I was like, oh, Christina. And he was like, yes, Crystal.

It was in math, he goes, yes. Oh, and I was, he was like, oh, math. math he goes yes oh and he was like oh math oh math oh math that actually makes sense to me that there was a language barrier I probably would have thought it does a little bit I would have thought like I feel like even such an idiot

with weed culture sometimes they change the sometimes it's a gas sometimes it's a liquid the paraphernalia is always constantly rotating. It changes states too many times that I don't know. So somebody could pull out a baggie of flakes and I'd be like, marijuana flakes? And they could be like, no, this is actually meth. I mean, it's nice to have your horizons broadened a little bit in terms of drugs.

And then you're like oh right still drugs it's still drugs actually ultimately and that's actually that still the hard drugs Los Angeles, this is crazy and this is just a thing I'll say without saying too much

when I was in New York there was never any cocaine around ever you come to LA, everyone has coke but like when I was in New York there was never any cocaine around ever you come to LA everyone has coke like I go out to the bar and everyone's like I see cocaine everywhere I think it's just a crowds thing

you're just running with a different crowd now of course New York has cocaine people have cocaine in New York famously New York has cocaine we can verify that one famously New York has cocaine. We can verify that one famously. New York has cocaine. I,

I feel like I saw it a lot more in Chicago, but I think it was my lifestyle than I ever see in LA. I don't, I don't see it in LA, but it's because I was like working in bars and going to clubs. And I actually just right before this, I had a zoom little birthday party hang with friends in Chicago who still they run clubs and they work in clubs and stuff. And all of them were just like so miserable and depressed.

And it was like a birthday thing. And I was like, what the fuck's going on? And then finally, like half of them got off. And the last guy on was like, we all did Molly last night. Why? It was Sunday and you're trapped in your home. That sounds awful. Yeah. You would have no reason to do it. Just you're trapped in your home. That sounds awful. Yeah.

You would have no reason to do it. Is he doing Molly on a Zoom? Oh, God. Pathetic. I actually have to say. Uh-oh. No.

I'm looking at a little pill of Molly. I didn't do Molly. I did something else yesterday which probably was like, oh, obviously you're in quarantine. Like, this would never

actually happen at a house. But like, you know, shit went down what i wasn't alone i was with a couple other people that like had been socially distancing we have you here and here our engineer says it's already on the internet okay well scrub a scrub so we have you here and as you know netflix shows they're very popular they become very popular and your socials are about to blow up how do you feel oh god i'm i don't want it i already had my first i love i love a racist comment like this on my personal insta and a person who follows me that just says you're black and i'm like yeah and then i i dove in of course because I'm hungry for this

and I just went like what's the point of this and the answer was you're not cute in space and I wanted to be like well first of all bitch the show ain't dropped you haven't seen me in space second of all you are also blocked now goodbye that's a thing that's a beautiful thing you can just say goodbye to them

goodbye you I'm about to start doing it more where I'm just like goodbye to them goodbye you i'm about to start doing it more where i'm just like i mean bowen i don't have to tell you i can't imagine well i'm just like okay well this i'm about to spoil my i don't think so honey but i posted a thing i posted a hot take on martin mcdonnell last night on my stories wasn't really a hot take but someone was like you're entitled to your opinion but you're wrong and i was like i'm gonna i was like i I didn't do it, but I was like, I should just block your ass. And you can go around and tell your friends that Bowen Yang blocked me over a spar, over DMs, over Martin McDonough. But who cares?

Fine. Anyway. Yeah, some Lieutenant of Inishmore stands out here. That's the thing. They love Lieutenant of Inishmore. Yes. They love seven psychopaths. Wait, do you go to space in the show i guess that's a spoiler i can't i can't tell you either way yeah oh my god that will be wow so i guess what i'm asking is we can

we can ask you any question stuff like sandra bullock stuff like get a bunch of dots on your body and spin around in space that would be so fun I would love that I don't know what I can wait you I think you can ask me things and I think I know what I can and can't say but can we ask you um does your character does Angela live or die does Angela die

at the end of the season you are you have to say I can't tell you okay no at this moment Angela is alive. She better be alive. Okay, okay. Yeah, she should be alive. Otherwise, I have questions. Yeah, of course.

Oh, my God. But yeah, no, Angela endures. And I will say, though, that with the space thing, people should know this show doesn't take place in space. No, right, very much on the ground. It's on a military base. It's very fake Coloradoado so they shouldn't be expecting like a a big space show despite that being in the title it's not a space show but but

it's based on trump's space force yeah it was literally i think steve said like there was no idea it was literally just him texting greg being like look at this you know space force idea wouldn't it be funny to write a show about that so So then what's wild is that Steve and Greg wrote the pilot, you know, two years before we got any news about the actual Space Force. So all of the things that they invented were just them, like, consulting military people and, like, trying to extrapolate

on what the weird pitfalls might be. So all the stuff that's weirdly dovetailed and lined up, like, with their logo coming out and uniforms being wild like it's been very eerie because i think the press has been kind of like you guys are like directly ripping them off right and we're like wait that's timing wise that's not possible but also it's very creepy yeah that's insane also i do think it's one of the more weird things that's come out of the administration is the idea of the space force. And then also like when in, in the show here,

like Steve Carell refers to become a space cadet. I was like, I think that's so funny. I'm like, honestly, what they'll be called probably. Yeah. And your title is spaceman,

spaceman, Ali, spaceman, Angela. Um, like, you know, he says like the air force has the airmen,

all that. Um, yeah, it's, it's weird. It's also like, you know he says like the Air Force has airmen all that yeah it's it's weird it's also like you know the the the branch itself is in in real life I'm guessing and in our show like the branch itself is useful it's just like the circumstances of its birth were so strange yeah but it's like sure yeah we have satellites up there that's delicate information you probably want to protect that shit like it's all pretty common sense I think it's just I think what's funny is that for the show the packaging and the circumstances are what makes it kind of like super you know

bonkers I just couldn't believe it was called Space Force and then I was like I guess what else would we call it like there's the Air Force this is the Space Force but it does sound like a blockbuster film yeah but Coast guard like it's not a cheesy coast guard is like kind of a classy name they guard the coast i mean you know yeah

like what what would we call it that would be classier like satellite guard satellite guard satellite space space ops no see space ops that's actually hot oh space operations because you're just operating you're just like making sure that like our satellites don't get compromised i'm pretending like i know anything about um the armed forces yeah sure same that's what i did for all of fall of 2019 so you now actually are the space expert for Las Culturistas. And so one thing I want to ask you about is what's going on with all the UFOs lately? Yeah, tell us. Somebody let them out.

They were held and then somebody was like, let these go. Let them out. But okay, the tea is that they are real. Tani, do you believe in aliens? Oh, you mean the ones that the dude from blink 182 got the movie to admit were real like a year ago this is so that's so insane

that is wild that what's his name tom oh my god i'm forgetting his name but he's the lead singer blink 182 and he's had this like citizen space watch tom delonge it's tom delonge tom delonge okay so so this is a real like um sort of split sort of like um realities face watch Tom DeLonge. It's Tom DeLonge. Tom DeLonge. Okay. So, so this is a real like, um, sort of split sort of like, um,

realities thing. If you want to believe the reader that, um, we got straight to Tom DeLonge, follow me. And if you want to believe that we struggled for about 45 seconds to find the name, follow Matt. This is a choose your own Avenger podcast.

Yeah. And if you'd like to jump into just my, you don't have to follow me, but if you'd like to jump into just my you don't have to follow me but if you would like to jump into my comments and just defend me from racists who don't think i'm cute in space that would be great too honestly they have no idea they have no idea what they're even talking about because you looked so gorge flying the helicopter that even steve carell was like let me absolutely get some of that i love this such non-existent heat you're trying to build here i i love it it's an honor for me i think he's so

handsome he's the nicest man in hollywood the nicest man in hollywood there's no there's no there's nothing to like there's no tidbit of like like, anything juicy because he is so nice, so normal, so generous with his time. He's also, like, you know, he's got 30 million lines to every line of everyone else's. So he's the busiest person on set. So he's constantly, like, in his script, working on his stuff, working on the next scene. But you know how some actors are like that and then, like, you feel like you have to tiptoe and you can't come up to them? No. Wow.

You can ask him fucking anything. You can ask him about Dr. Pepper and he's like, yeah, he's like yeah hey what do you need he's the best dude ever that rocks very professional and my little short interaction with him um when he hosted two seasons ago last season um just so so like yeah generous approachable like had no like errors about him great guy i would like to meet him one day. What would you say to him? I would say to him that actually he worked with a close friend of mine, Tawny

Newsome. I would say that I'm actually very good friends with Tawny and she actually was on the show Space Force with you that you created and he would probably say, I love Tawny. Tawny's amazing. She's so funny. You know, she improvised a few of those lines and I said, well, I love Tawny. Tawny's amazing. She's so funny. You know, she improvised a few of those lines. And I said, well, I actually

knew that she was an improviser and this is a funny story, Steve. You know, one time I was asked to do a show. So now you've trapped him. You've trapped him to tell a story. And you said he's so nice that he would listen. I said, you know, one time actually, Steve, that's interesting you say that about Tawny doing improv because there was

a time when I was doing a show in New York and I had had no idea that tony would be there and not only was she there but she was improvising in the show with me wow based on a story that i said he's just and he's like looking at his watch he's in the gelsons he's just like thank you so much i really have to i have to grab this mac and cheese here's the other question i have do you have any scenes with the legendary Lisa Kudrow? No. Oh my god. And it breaks my heart. So you didn't get to meet her? I love her so much. I did not even get to meet her by the end of, by the time when like they

were mostly filming a lot of her stuff, they had two and sometimes three units a day going. Wow. So I would be filming in like the outer desert somewhere and she'd be in Long Beach. The hair and makeup ladies knew that I loved her so occasionally they'd text me when I'd come to set and they'd be like, you just missed Lisa.

I was like, damn. I'm hopeful if we get a season two though. It was rude of them. They were gloating. We look forward to some hijinks potentially in season two. Absolutely. Were you living out in the desert? They got you a damn car and they drove you. No, I drove

my damn self. But it was good though because we had a bunch of different locations so nothing ever felt too tedious because we weren't just like, oh my God, I'm going to Long Beach every day. Like some days we're like, oh, I'm going to Santa Clarita and Chatsworth and other glamorous

locations. Santa Clarita is actually one of the most glamorous places in the state of California. Chatsworth is one of the most amazing places to shoot if you get to be an actor. The sidewalks are wide. They are as wide as they are hot in Chatsworth. That's what we love about Chatsworth. Wow. I'm asking you the dumbest questions. I'm like, did you get a car to drive you to?

No, no. I feel like I'm being very uneventful. Cause I'm just like telling you that Steve Carell was nice. It's like, it's so true. Tell us how weird Malkovich was. Malkovich is so weird.

He's perfect. He's perfect. I have a video on my phone of him showing me his color coded binder that he had color coded with scented highlighters and smelling each one and being like this one is episode four good malkovich i used grape every episode of different scents yeah literally so that he could like smell it and know like okay this page this goes here here. This is watermelon. My word.

That's exactly what you want. He's a treasure. Yeah. He also immediately like, he's just like a kid. So he immediately like wants to talk about new hip things. He wanted to talk to me and Jimmy O. Yang about K-pop. He was like sending us YouTube videos. It's adorable.

Is that racist? Did you know Jimmy O. Yang? Just kidding. No, first answer that question. Is that racist? Did you know Jameel Yang? Just kidding. No, first answer that question. Is that racist? Yo, is this racist? It was not at the time because it was germane

to something in the script. Okay, got it. So at that moment in time, it was not. It was germane at the time. I'm out here trying to cancel John Malkovich, by the way. Please, please don't do that.

JK, JK, JK, JK. Not before Tawny's big show. I mean, honestly, I think there's so many other people. I bet you could cancel half of the cast and the show would still get watched and be survived. This is T. We won't say his name, but I love the story that you told me about that one celebrity that could be canceled

in an absolute second if we all wanted. I don't know about that. Let's just say we know a celebrity. It's a doozy. It's a doozy it's a doozy i gotta tell me at one time we'll talk about it off pod okay but wow there's a celebrity out there who is not even close to canceled which if this came out honey he'd be run out of the damn hood people love him and again like i don't i legitimately don't want this to come out only because i am i don't want the trolls yelling at me.

Like I've done something wrong when really all I'd be doing is being like, Hey, is this your King? This motherfucker said this. This is your King. And people like cannot handle it. So it's actually like, it's,

it's, it behooves me to shut up about it. And thankfully, like, you know, he didn't do anything. So I don't feel a responsibility. I actually truly,

yeah, there was not, it was not anything. No, there's no reason to cut it out because we're never none of us are ever going to say what it was all we're saying is that there are people that you the reader but now but see now that tony's socials are going to blow up and they might listen to this damn episode and they're gonna fucking harass her for details no because that's actually that's a great point you think that they will i don't know i have no idea bowen tell me what happened to your socials my socials my socials it gradually it was a gradual gradual growth um and now i'll get like a gosh what's my split it's like an 70 30 split of like really nice messages to insanity and people like um yeah wanting feet pics and stuff which i'm happy to give them oh netflix is different though netflix is different netflix is like a whole other

level like i know you know do you know did you watch the show you you're talking about james scully james scully f on on you he's a friend and his socials went boom boom boom explode because I think you is like huge like you does like huge numbers and I think Space Force is going to do huge I would be shocked if that wasn't like all over the front page like you know that Netflix

is rolling out as that quote unquote tentpole a tentpole I was going to ask about Jimmy O. Yang did you I love Jimmy love Jimmy. Love Jimmy so much. Did you know him beforehand? I did. I knew him through Andrew, actually, through Andrew T., my co-host, and through Jessica Gao. Oh, yes. He's another good friend of ours. So

I kind of, um, I'd met him twice. And then I think he did the pod once, but I don't think we really remembered each other from that. I think I more remembered him as, like, Andrew and Jessica's friend. Um, so it was kind of funny because we had, like, a little just knowing someone when there's all those legends around you. Just knowing someone who's kind of your age. You're just like, hey, man, like me, him and Ben were instantly kind of like, oh, great.

OK, we can kind of like, you know, check in with each other. You lash on. You knew Ben, right? Yeah, I knew Ben a little bit just from comedy bang bang stuff. And but again, not well. So. But yeah, we just made like a little bit, just from comedy bang-bang stuff. But again, not well. But yeah, we just made a little comedy cabal. And then actually, little baby Diana Silvers. I've never had a little sister, but it feels like I have a little sister.

I love her. She's good on the show, too. Very good. She's great. I also selfishly was just so happy she's tall. Sometimes I get on a set I did an episode of Superstore and I had like so many tweets and comments of people just being like why are

you so tall how tall are you why are you taller than everyone well America Ferreira is only 3'2 interesting I didn't clock that when I was there I'll never forget recently my not recently, this was actually 15 years ago.

We were watching Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants and my dad says, it's the scene where America Ferrer breaks down. She throws the brick in the house and then Bradley Bifford, her father, calls her, her white father who left her and her mom to have a new white family,

calls her and is like, what the hell? And she breaks down and is basically like, you left us. Amazing acting. Amazing acting. And my dad goes, that actress is very strong. Oh, and happy birthday to Rich, by the way, your father. It's my dad's

birthday today. Today. Today is the day. Did he do a bunch of Molly with friends last night like my friend did? I think he might have just, you know, drank one or nine Coors Lights

and called it a night. And then he micro-dosed. Then he actually micro-dosed. America Ferreira threw the first brick at Sister to the Traveling Pants. And that's actually rule of culture.

Well, she threw the first brick at Bradley Wifford's house. Yes, that's true. That's rule of culture number 75. America Ferreira threw the first brick at Bradley Wifford's house. Wow. She did. It was an important brick. I realized I've never seen it.

I've never seen Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants. I think that you would like it. You would enjoy it. You're hanging out with your mom now? You're quarreling with your mom? My mother did move uh she she built her own trailer she renovated her own trailer and did move it onto my property oh yeah you told me about this we couldn't record with you yesterday because you were building a damn trailer on your property i think i said i believe this is going to be an all-day thing is there another was it an all-day thing and it was it was it was yeah yeah yeah but my mom she's very i mean i'm

the same as her we're very like diy so i have had this old vintage trailer that i've been renovating for like a year like taking my time whatever and my mom when all this hit she was just like i can't stay in the house anymore she got like a 500 trailer towed to her from craigslist and just started like painting and ripping everything out and that was 12 days ago and then she towed it down to my house and it is pristine i was gonna ask a robot wow okay so then like how far apart are you distance wise i'm just just out of here like your trailers far away from hers no are you in a trailer? I'm so confused.

I'm not in a trailer. I have a home. Not that a trailer can't be a home. I have a brick-and-mortar home. And then, because we moved out of the city, so we're, like, rural. So we have, like, a ton of space. So she's, like, far away. She's hundreds of feet away, which is really nice.

Yeah. And then, you know, we can mingle later maybe but it was just because she didn't have anywhere to walk in her neighborhood and stuff so that sounds like such a good setup though it's like you're far enough from each other that it doesn't feel like they're like stacked on top of you this this goes for anybody like not even parents or anybody but it's like i don't know you run the risk of if you if you like invite someone into your pot or if like they live with you um then it just like becomes a bit encroaching i don't know that that sounds great yeah like even when you have guests you know like i all my dream especially when i was living in chicago was just like if i could just have a guest room like a guest room would be amazing

because i love having people over but then i think i came to learn that Nate my husband and I are just we've just lived together and only with each other for too long and so we are weird and our house is like Swiss family Robinson it's like oh actually you can't pull on that or the shelf will come down so like to have guests over I realized for the guest might be a little stressful oh sure so now we're like let's curate a space where they can be they can be elsewhere so yeah i want property bitch i want you just have to move to the middle of absolute nowhere um so listen what we have to do is take a very quick break and then when we come back it's actually time for i don't Think So, Hawny. Hell yeah. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back.

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There's Dedicated Side B by Carly Rae Jepsen, a woman who I don't think so honeyed at one point because I thought she was coming out with a disco album, but now I've come back to stan she's still not done that what she said she would do and there's of course the release of the song of the year daisies by katie perry and um i can't believe it but it's actually gonna be time to actually take some things from the culture down and this actually is a very topical thing I'm not going to talk about. Okay, come on.

So you have something? I do, I have something. Okay, this is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey as time starts now. I don't think so honey, I'm running with a mask on. How about I try to breathe? How about that?

How about that? How about it's hard enough to run when you smoke reefer? I don't think so honey, it's very easy. oh how i don't think so honey it's very easy how about i don't think so honey me actually ran today without a mask and then i had to turn around and come back because i got what a dirty look oh i couldn't breathe and then actually i don't think so honey that i did run because it ended up being really more of a brisk walk. Luckily, that burns calories as well. But I don't think so, honey, me starting to even begin anew in terms of running and exercise, which I am starting to try to do.

Thank you. Thank you. But not with this mask on my face, not with this bandana across my mouth. I cannot breathe. I am choking. I am breathing in the fabric. It is going down my throat. Five seconds. I don't think so, honey. I cannot breathe. I am choking. I am breathing in the fabric. It is going down my throat. Five seconds.

I don't think so, honey. I can't go on like this. When can I show my mouth again to the world? And that's one minute. Okay. Wow. This is huge. And you.

That is powerful. That's powerful. Here's what I propose you do. You do the mask. Is it ear loops? Is that what you're working with? Yes, but I also, I have a bandana. The thing is, I think the bandana is more stylish, but it falls off easier. So, yes, I've been using the mask with the ear loops is that what you're working with yes but i also i have a bandana the thing is

i think the bandana is more stylish but it falls off easier so yes i've been using the mask with the ear loops i think you do ear loops and you let it you let it um hang like a hammock on along your chin your jawline when you're running because the if it's outdoors and running especially the risk is apparently very low yeah i just people have started to like get angry like when it comes up that people are maybe running without the masks. And let's just say this flat out. I will do what I have to do and I literally did not

run today without a mask. I stepped outside, forgot it, and then I was like, okay, let me go back inside just so we're clear readers. Right, and I'm saying again, Lost Cultures, this is not news. It's not a public health authority in any way. These are medical rumors. These are medical rumors. This is a podcast for pop culture and medical rumors. And medical rumors, that's true.

But the risk of transmission is very low outside for someone who's, the risk of you, if you're positive transmitting the disease to someone else as you're running outside even with the mask off is still very low. So I think what you should do is at least doing the safety theater of having the mask dangle along your chin

so that people can see that you have the mask ready to just pull up at a moment. Yeah, right. So that people feel more safe. I get that. I want people to feel good. I just also want to be able to breathe. And the fact of the matter is like in my apartment building, there is a gym, but we're not allowed to use it anymore. Right. And I just really I'm trying now that I'm not working as much. I'm trying to exercise more because Bone and I might be on camera at some point in the summer with our with the top popped. And I'm not trying to stand next to Joel Kim Booster and look like a damn fool.

Oh, I'm going to look like a damn fool no matter what next time. So I'm just letting myself go, honey. No, I'm no take a Barry's class with me over zoom. They're very they're very hard. You can do a Barry's over zoom. They're doing Barry's over zoom. You can do anything. Absolutely. I've been doing an African dance fitness class.

It's just these African ladies shaking it as good calorie. I get that. Yeah. I mean, even like just dancing around to anything really will burn the cows i've been doing like um even just screaming just scream at your partner that's gotta burn a quick hundo i'll scream at my partner and um one of the things i'm doing too is jumping i'll do a real rotation i'll do jumping jacks crunches squats and push-ups yeah right that's amazing that's great that's very well that's Yeah. Right? That's amazing. That's great.

That's very well balanced. That's amazing, says Bowen. That's amazing. That's amazing. This Barry's instructor, Austin Kay, had us do 100 squats. And I was like, you're a madman. I did them. The next morning, could not walk.

Could not walk. But I know that it's- The squats, they'll get you. But I know that it helped. I know that it helped. Yeah. And there's nothing- Because he did that. And he said said i know you don't have nowhere to go to he said that so you're gonna do these hundreds hundred squats and then you're gonna be on house arrest okay

the thing about squats is like i never mind if squats hurt me because there's nothing i like more than to know that my butt is getting better like for me being in the gay community and i'm gonna i'm gonna hold the mic with both hands your butt is very important in the gay community and it's important to um you know use that butt of yours to attract the men because that's what they call peacocking you know yes yes absolutely similar for the black people i can say like people we also enjoy a butt um i've i've been blessed i've never lacked for a butt so now now that i live on a hill and just to leave my home i have to work the butt now i have some favorite pants that do not fit because the butt's so this is the only time the butt actually become too big, which normally I'm okay with because then it makes you look like you have a small waist.

But it's actually, it's reached a threshold that my vintage jeans cannot abide. And so I do need to reduce a little bit. But you know, that just means that the jeans never deserved you. Because if they don't deserve you at your not big butt, they definitely don't. I don't even know where I'm going with this. Well, I sense where you're going. I think that's one of the reasons I miss New York so much is you're always on the go, walking up damn steps,

going on the subway, out the subway. Your booty's always getting a workout. Not anymore, darling. I'm just sitting on it. I'm not walking up and down. I kind of miss the subway. I might ride it. Wow. Wow. Right now? Right now, subway, of miss the subway. I might ride it. Wow.

Right now? The subway, I might ride it. Might fuck around and ride the subway. People who have to ride it every day are like, fuck all of you. We might cut this out. A fun potential title for this podcast episode might be medical rumors.

No, it has to be the Kunis Kutcher vaccine. The Kunis Kutcher vaccine. I'm waiting for it. He invented Twitter, he can invent a vaccine. Yes, come on. Honestly? So here's actually the damn deal is it's Tawny's turn to do

Wait, we're going to Tawny first? Oh wait, no, oh my god, hello? We've been talking so much, I forgot about this Bowen Yang. As a courtesy because we want to ramp up to the guests. No, of course, of course, it's Bowen's time. It was really just an error that I made and I'm a human.

No one can say that. I'm not. Okay? All the girls are admitting to knowing that Matt Rogers is a human and he is capable of many errors all the girls so Bo and Yang what say you I actually don't have my phone on me

I'll time myself you can shout out the um I will I'm shouting him out this is Bo and Yang's I don't think so honey his time starts now I don't think so honey Martin McDonough bitch fat phobia sexism racism and still no apology why officer mcdonough i think i misquoted the billboards didn't i

why no why no and why no apology officer mcdonough damn i. I fucking bungled that. I was trying to quote Three Billboards. Which is a bad movie. Francis McDormand I guess deserved the Oscar. 30 seconds. And maybe even Sam Rockwell did. But, you know, I saw him bruise last night. I was like, what a trash movie. I remember

enjoying the movie so much in my youth. But now I'm just like, it's crazy. It's a crazy movie and what is this man's obsession with little people he loves to like call little people midgets in his films and i'm like that's not a joke and i hate that people are like his movies are black comedies it's like no there's nary a damn joke he just likes to call fat people fat and little people midgets that's not funny bitch that's That's actually... Learn a new trade. Okay.

And that's one minute. And I think it's actually important to say because, you know, let's just say this. A black comedy, you can't just call something that's mean a black comedy. That's what I'm saying.

That's not... It doesn't work like that, y'all. I get that he's like trying to like write around like hyper masculine characters or something like Colin Farrell's character is supposed to be like unlikable and you're supposed to hate him because he because of his past and stuff but it's

like I don't know man you take one look at Martin McDonagh and you're like yeah I ain't far away from these motherfuckers sure and then you're also and then I'm also just like that's it's a crazily paced movie ray fines isn't coming until the last 20 minutes it's like i did this none of it like none of it like works on like any real like entertainment level either i'm just like i

don't know why people are fingering themselves cross-eyed to this man wow to think of that image fingering themselves cross-eyed people fucking love martin mcdonough i don't understand how the same man i know how the same man who wrote like pillow man and like you know these these heralded plays that were like you know maybe now if we saw them we might be like okay but like at the time they were i don't know they were pretty mind-opening for me being a young theater kid watching them. And yeah, I didn't get it either. It wasn't my taste. I will say that I'm not as familiar with his theatrical work.

But he still had that same reputation in the 90s as the bad boy theater dude, right? Imagine being the bad boy of theater. Yeah, I think that's John Malkovich. I think he's the only actual legitimate bad boy of theater yeah i i think that's john malcolm i think he's the only actual legitimate bad boy of theater yeah no i guess thinking back i'm sure pillow man if i were to watch it now it's like it's extremely inappropriate because it's like hyper sexualized and there's a kid involved but it's at the time it felt like art i don't know if that's my naivete or like where people were how people were talking about irreverent comedies back then versus now

whenever i see the word irreverent i'm already like is this actually irreverent or is that just like a code for you guys to be like they're gonna say nigger right yeah it's the first time i ever heard the word irreverent was when jimmy fallon was presenting avenue q at the tony awards you know and that is time i'll give it to know, I'll give it to Avenue Q. I'll give it to Avenue Q. Would you call me irreverent? Yes. Very irreverent.

I would call the both of you highly reverent at the same time, though. You are reverent people. The reverent was what I won my Oscar for. I didn't hide in a bear. I hid in a seal. It's more gay. won my Oscar for. I didn't hide in a bear. I hid in a seal. It's more gay.

We are reverent because we love to enthusiastically talk about things. That's true. Now here's one thing I revere. Whatever this I Don't Think So Honey is going to be. Whatever Tawny Newsom is going to be. Let me tell you, whenever she comes up with an I Don't Think So Honey, you know she's going to roll absolutely through.

We will genuflect. And there's another word for you. A verbose queen. And you know... Well, I do appreciate it. And by come up with one, you know I don't never prepare nothing. So you know I am going to ask for a troll bowl.

Oh my god. I'm going to ask you to troll and bowl. Wait, Matt. Matt, are you going to pull it up? Maybe. Remember before when I said I did not have no phone? Are you going to? But wait, where did we keep?

Hold on. Okay, troll bowl. Here's what I'm going to do. Literally, I'm doing the troll bowl right now. I am. I think I have it as an Evernote somewhere. Let me see. Okay, I have one.

Okay. Okay. Tawny Newsome, your I Don't Think So Honey topic is the singer The Weeknd. And your time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey, The Weeknd? What are you doing?

Taking vowels out of the end of your name like you're a dot com era tech company in Daly City the weekend what are you an app for having a bad time with friends you should have ditched a long time ago I don't think so

the weekend I don't think so with the fact that I used to get you confused with the xx that may be on me but somehow it feels like your fault they don't have enough letters either the xx still really good music though i don't think so honey the weekend because um you confused people in my life about whether or not you were black music or white music people didn't know if they were allowed to like you white people didn't know and I'm here to tell them that they can because you're a great musician

but I still don't approve of your limited vowels because I don't think spelling things wrong is cute it breeds illiteracy and that's one minute a scalding takedown of the weekend.

She tied it back to literacy. She tied it back to literacy. And she started with the building blocks. She said that artist does not have enough letters, characters in his name. Because if you really were to spell it right, I think we can all do this together. it would be T-H-E space W-E-K-E-N-D emphasis on that last E totally The Weeknd

it's like he said four E's is too much for a band and he got rid of the last one I gotta say my thing with The Weeknd is I didn't like that Fifty Shades of Grey song

oh I don't remember Burned It or whatever it was everywhere I also like I feel like he's one of those people that's like so famous and because I don't listen to the radio too much I'm on Spotify often listening to my own things um like I'm not really he's like one of the things that the kids like

that I don't know about but when he first came up it was 2011 and he was just releasing shit on like soundcloud and it was like it was like a very cool thing to like know who the weekend was and then he like went fully mainstream which he is like free to do but like you know there's just there's just a shift that happens there um and and now he's and now he is who he is and he is like performing with a bloody nose and it's kind of cool. I think it's pretty cool. He performed with a bloody nose. I missed that.

He's like Canadian queen. Canadian queen. Canadian queen. I'm glad you guys gave me that one. I feel like the last time, or maybe it was a live show or something. I feel like I had to go negative on like some beloved. I don't know. I can't remember, but I remember just being like,

wasn't it like Selma Blair or something? It was like, whenever we do a live, I don't think so. Honeys were truly cruel to the people that choose the troll bowl. And it's like princess Diana. I still love it. No,

it's definitely. I mean, I love that you always go for the troll bowl. Have you like princess diana i still love it no it's definitely i mean i love that you always go for the troll bowl have you ever not never never you always go for the troll i love that i love that i love i love surprising um you guys i love surprising my own mouth um i mean because it does feel like it feels like you, I could write something and hope it's funny or I could make something up. And if it's not funny, you're grading me. I came up with mine about five minutes before I did it as well. And that's actually.

But you're a seasoned pro. Yeah. We always say that Bowen and I are like, if you actually lined up everyone who's really good, I don't think so, honey. We're like actually C plus. I don't think so. Yeah. We're not good at it. Untrue. Who do you who do you call your I Don't Think So Honey. We're like actually C plus I Don't Think So Honey. Yeah, we're not good at it. Untrue.

Who do you call your top five? Joel is very good at them. Joel Kim Booster is very good. Who else? Annie Donnelly always brings the energy. Annie Donnelly, always. Michael Hartney. He's great.

He's fantastic. Who else? We've had some really good ones. We're missing some people, of course. There's been some amazing troll bowl. That time that you did the show in LA, there were some really good troll bowls that time. I remember.

I feel like Atsuko Okatsuka had a really good one. I don't think she did a troll bowl, though. But yeah, I just remember being blown away by a lot of people I hadn't seen perform in that way before. Even if I'd seen them do stand-up, I remember being like, holy shit. We're just saying that we're bad at it so yeah i mean and also like i actually was thinking today how much how bummed i am that we haven't been able to do an i don't think so honey live like i know it's starting to feel like it was an era and i really don't want that to be the case. No, we're going to bring it back as soon as it's cool to do so.

I did a live show with Tawny Newsome. I know. That we still haven't released because our release schedule is so fucking complicated. That episode still hasn't come out? I guess I was wondering. No! Isn't that insane?

It was like 10 months ago. But you were so much fun. Matt came and joined me in Boston. We had had a really lovely sweet heady crowd it was like a they were there to like engage a lot of tufts kids they really were a lot of tufts kids sometimes i get sometimes i get audiences for those yo live shows that i'm like oh you're all smarter than me and you're here to listen to me. And that is deeply embarrassing. No, you're...

You should form a group where you listen to each other. People listen to you because it's just compelling. What were you going to say, Matt? I was just going to say, it's that moment where you're like, wait, hold on. Sometimes I find myself doing like talk backs for things or like I get asked to do whatever.

And like, it's like, can you speak to like uh the existence of queer um queer comedy and and i'm always like oh you guys i'm the dumbest person in the world that's like why you even know me actually if you walk it all the way back so it's funny that you want to hear like what i think if you walk it all the way back that's why we that's why we why you even know me i feel like it's not germane to speaking of germane um it's not like natural for improvisers especially because it's like oh you know me and you like me because i couldn't be bothered to write a thing down like that's that's what my whole career is, is me being too lazy to make anything permanent. That's not giving yourself enough credit.

No, that's actually not giving yourself enough cred-ot. Because you are permanent. And your socials are about to blow up because you are on the new show Space Force, and that's what matters. And ultimately, you have a huge part in Space Force, and I think it's going to get even bigger from this point, and you know more than I do.

But what I think is that you've come to this podcast to lie, and I think that you've told many untruths, and I think that you actually become the love interest of Steve Carell, who famously has gotten hotter as he's gotten older wow I know that's true I think you've come here to lie he looks great you've come here to lie um I'm so sorry I guess I guess I am the CIA plot that has infiltrated our pop culture and that was to come on here and speak erroneously about pop culture so for that I am sorry but you've also caught me. So congrats.

I'm going to have to think about that one. That's season two of Wind of Change. That's actually what that is. Going to have to think about that one. Going to have to think about that one. Going to have to consider that one. Please do. Going to have to ruminate on that one.

Oh my God. Okay. We're losing our minds here. So everyone, please everyone please please please what day is it out? May 29th? Friday Friday the 29th in just two days people from when this episode is

released you'll be able to see all the episodes of Space Force and there are 10? there are 10 you made a face like you couldn't even tell me how many there were you were like well let's just say there's 60 fun

that would be very cool no it would it took us long enough to make those 10 they did a very nice job but it did take you a very long time well I'm excited for you there are 10 very excited I hope we get more thank you I'm excited too thank you guys so much for having me on I also feel like a crazy person maybe it's the time of night i don't know do we

all just feel i think that i think that we are all just podcast vets yeah and i think that what happens when three podcast vets get together it's like no one's like like we're all excited to be here but we're not like oh i'm on a podcast today. It's kind of fun. What will I say? What will they ask? What will we talk about? It's almost too comfortable. Oh, no one's like this about the podcast. Oh, my God.

I'm so excited that Matt and Bowen asked me to be on Las Codrillas. We get so many of those. We get so many of those. Oh, my God. Yeah. many of those we get so many of those oh my god yeah i know i do feel like because i do feel like this could just be a zoom yeah that unfortunately someone is recording so every now and then i do have to be like oh yes a world also the show you know but in general this does feel like we are just we were so dropped in that we've had more things that we said

we have to cut that out than we have in many months. So actually, what we're going to do is we're going to wrap this one up in just a second with a song, but we're also going to, I think, we all are looking forward to, not only Space Wars, but also the Kutcher-Kunis

vaccine. It's alphabetical, because K-U-N-K-U-T, so it's K-U-N. And also, she also the Kutcher-Kunis vaccine. It's alphabetical. K-U-N, K-U-T, so it's K-U-N. And also she was the lead physicist on the project. She thought of it. She was like, babe, you know what? We should do a vaccine. And he was like, oh shit, babe.

And then they basically were like, let's board the kids. For some reason, they don't call it a babysitter. They call it boarding the kids. And they boarded the kids. For some reason, they don't call it a babysitter. They call it boarding the kids. And they boarded the kids and they worked for hours on a vaccine until they finally cooked one up in the kitchen. That's fun. It's fun that they did that.

The Kunis Kutcher Kitchen. It's fun that this is their first big joint moment together since the time that they were on The Bachelorette together. No one's really seen them out since. They've had three collabs. That 70s show, The Bachelor, that they were on The Bachelorette together. Like, no one's really seen them out since. Well, they really have. They've had three collabs. That 70s show, The Bachelor,

and the Kunis Kutcher vaccine. I can't wait. It's a good third one to sort of round out the trilogy. Well, first it was The Wine. Yes. Right, right, right, right. It was The Wine. But The Wine was really just the pre-launch to the vaccine.

We look forward to it all, but mostly Space Force, which is out on May 29th. Ta Tawny thank you so much for being here we love you I love you guys thank you for having me and actually we do end every episode with a song is it true that Paul was a walking wager

no wait hold on we can't do either one of those we have to do oh god I say I'm going nowhere I try to let me out Took them sticks and stones Told them I can build a house They told me that I'm crazy

But I never let them change me So they cover me in daisies Daisies They say I'm going nowhere I try to knock me out Took them sticks and stones Told them I can make a house Told them I'm going nowhere. Try to knock me out. Took them six in style. Done an academic house. Turned me to crazy.

And I never let them change me. Till they covered me in daisies. Daisies. Daisies. It's a flop. Flop song. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski.

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