Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "The Only Way Is Through" (w/ Molly Gordon & Rachel Sennott)

Episode Date: April 21, 2021

2021 is, of course, primarily the year of the Demi Lovato Froyo Controversy, but that's not all. It is also the year of the incredible film Shiva Baby, which stars the two truly magnifique guests on today's episode: Molly Gordon & Rachel Sennott! The four fools discuss making this lil' indie that could, becoming #sisters during the 16-day shoot, falling in love with a collaborator the way these girls did with writer-director Emma Seligman, the glory that is Dianna Agron and gorgeous Gleek culture, periods of life in which you're going through hell and are reduced to doing poppers on the West Side Highway, seeing R-rated movies as a minor, The Bling Ring and Sofia Coppola's underrated filmography, the ups and downs of peeing in cups for medical reasons, bowel vulnerability, and how there are amazing heroes with their hands up our ass. Watch Shiva Baby in select theaters and on demand right NOW! We can't recommend it ENUF. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, and look over there. Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong.

Las Culturistas calling. I told you before we hit record. That you're activated. Something activated within you. Something has activated me. And my interest was peaked, as they say. And they do say that. How do you spell peaked?

This is a test. P-I-Q-U-E-D. Smart queen. And that's it. Don't let anyone tell you different. Smart queen. Spelling bee queen. I don't think so many people who think that it's the P-E-A-K peaked.

No, that's simply the wrong peaked. You know, I placed sixth place in my sixth grade spelling bee. Do you want to know that six is not bad? I placed second in the fourth grade. I lost to Laura Henderson. Fuck my drag. No, no, no, I'm sorry. I remember this like so well.

Like it was yesterday even. Do you remember your word in the sixth grade? I remember my word. Okay, so there were there were two famous spelling bees in my life and one the first one i got off on the word mule we got off on the word i got off on the word mule i came on stage they said the word is mule i i ejaculated and was eliminated uh just because of the cum not because yeah but no and i i spelled it m-u-e-l like mule i don't know why i thought it was like fuel and i said m-u-l-e and i it's escaping me right now

the word i got out on on sixth grade but you tell me what was your second place finishing word must know you ready remember it's the fourth grade but i i think people still fuck this up at our age let me tell you something if you got it wrong there's other people that are getting it wrong and that's a real culture if it's real culture number 12 if bo and yang got it wrong other people are getting it wrong 100 here's the word here's the word satellite s-a-t-e-l-l-T-E. Okay, yes. Stupid. No, I did the double T-S-A-T-T-E, and the look on Ms. Jacoby's face fell.

She just dropped. Ms. Jacoby, she lost all respect for you in that moment. She absolutely did. Oh, but you know what? I don't think so, honey, Ms. Jacoby, because she did this thing. Oh, here we go. Where when people would whisper during, whisper during, like, you know,

drop everything in read hour or something, she'd be like, Bowen, I can hear you from here. I can hear you from here, which is like a meaningless sentence. She could hear you breathing or what? That was her, that was her little catchphrase whenever she, like, wanted to call out someone for being loud or disruptive, like. I can hear you from here like i can hear you from here

i can hear you from here well bitch we're in the same room so that that that reads to me why don't you relax and read famously what it's called not stop everything and read was it called relax and read on long island very much so r and r it was called deer d-e-a-r drop everything and read in colorado well that's just too much that That's too much. You got Dear. You got Dare. You got all the programs that's too much. It's too confusing where you grew up. Where you were educated was too confusing. You're right.

Can I tell you what activated me? Yes. I thought to myself, I want to look like a Barb today on Instagram. You want to look like a Barb today? And then I put on Pink friday i pressed play on pink friday and i thought this is one of the best albums albums of all time so how would you go about looking like a barb like nikki herself has a face filter on her everything but making music lately sweet stam excuse me she's not bound to like she's not beholden to like the album cycle anymore

no you don't you misunderstand i say that with all the love in the world i i mean it as no no entrepreneurial well no but you're you're trying to like make some rihanna equivalency tell me what i'm trying to do i know what you're trying to do and you're saying oh my god these because where you were educated they had too much shit going on in their minds. So it's not very streamlined. You're actually not a barb. And I want the readers to know that is that you're not a barb. That is pathetic. Welcome to the crying game.

That's a Nicky song. That's a great Nicky song, actually. Yeah, it actually is. Pills and potions. Welcome to the crying game where you lose your soul. Okay, we're putting on some accent there no we're not and fuck you that's so stupid i'm so i'm kidding i'm kidding i'm giving we're not gonna cut it out because i have nothing to hide i have nothing to hide you're right and

i'd actually read her i take it back matt was just being a barb and he was and he was quoting that was a barb accent that was all right let's pump the brakes this is getting too much wait i'm so happy that you're activated um and you in being so sort of confrontational and i think we're both sort of giving barb all right yeah yeah we're giving barb before we bring in our film star guests i just want to say movie stars literally what do you think about what i'm calling the 2021 demi lovato frozen yogurt controversy i'm sorry i haven't been keeping up with this what's happened she lost it in a fro-yo shop oh it's all over the news it's all over the news wait so she like got mad at someone in a fro-yo store tell me tell me she got angry at the fro-yo shop because it was giving sugar-free

options and she felt triggered by that and took to instagram to blast the fro-yo shop to her 102 million followers and say that the fro-o shop was doing harmful messaging and offering sugar-free options. Meanwhile, famously, diabetics must have sugar-free things. Vegans must, you know, sort of, they have dietary restrictions. Vegans have to have sugar-free options.

No, I said they have dietary restrictions. You're uneducated. So what do I care what you have to say, dear? Dear R&R. Drop everything and rehearse some better retorts. Yes. Yes. That was good. I'm on fire today, King.

Oh my God. What do you make of this dummy thing? I mean, I'm just hearing about this now. I'm shocked. I'm not surprised. I'm going to talk about it later. It's my I don't think so, honey, but I had to. It's occupied so much of my brain space today because I surprised i'm gonna talk about it later and so i'm good it's my i don't think so honey but i had to it's occupied so much of my brain space today because i did watch an eight minute apology video that she released it was eight minutes long i love and she said the words when i messaged the

fro-yo shop and i was like this is when she jumped the shark for me i think no this is we're going through like a renaissance with demi like everyone is like kind of rallying to her corner for the first time there's no one who rallies harder for demi than me there is no one i know i know that but i'm saying everyone is becoming a levatic now because it's like a huge levatic we've been levatic since the first youtube documentary we should say the first documentary where she was like yeah i beat the shit out of some girl like on on my plane i was like oh my god this i unapologetically beat the shit out of one of my backup dancers because she looked at me wrong she said that in the documentary simply complicated that's the whole thing in the

documentary we shouldn't be making light of her anger issues no no no no we're not we are we are simply stating the facts we're not making light of anything and the facts today are she tried to absolutely drag a family-owned fro-yo shop for simply saying that some of the items were sugar-free oh my god and she did apologize in like i said in over eight minute long video where she used the word fro-yo about a hundred times. And I was like, no pop star should be using the word fro-yo this much. I just had to. Yeah. You disagree. Actually. Yes. Remember, remember 2008? I do. One of the best years. One of the best years. One of the best years. Pinkberry was king. Coming to New York meant like, or going to any big or but specifically new york it was like la la but my experience of coming moving to new york was like oh my god we're about to elect our

first black president and i have to go king and i have to go to st mark's the pink berry there and just feel like carrie bradshaw maybe I don't think she ever ate Froyo. Was that one of her things? No, no, no. But it felt very, like, it felt very, no, I should say it was very Gossip Girl. I don't even know if they ate it on Gossip Girl. But, like, 2008 New York. I mean, they definitely, like, if they probably didn't eat it, they probably, like, played with it in their, played with it in their, with their spoons in their cup.

Yeah, of course. And then there's a spit bucket on set where they're like, okay, just. Blake had to be reassured that she wouldn't have to ingest a single wouldn't have to ingest of pink bear is there going to be a spit bucket on set that layton and i can share because we're on board on this together we don't want to eat any of that and meanwhile layton meester is like what is mochi like she like spent 20 minutes asking people what mochi was but can we just quickly talk about new york city 2008 that specific year,

you were coming right off of sex in the city, the first movie and gossip girl was Ray was raining. It was going in from season one into season two. It was just like, what a, what an electric time in New York city to be like, wow. I mean,

we're killing it on like in film and television. Do you know what I'm saying? And you know, famously one time when I was walking on the street on 4th Ave, I walked past, remember the bar Forum? It's not called that anymore.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I've told you this. They were shooting a movie called Black Swan. Oh my God. Which then I would see the next year and it was the scene where, and this actually is going to segue perfectly into our guest. It was the scene where

Mila Kunis says to Natalie Portman, you've never rolled? Oh my god. And gets her to do Molly. And then they have lesbian sex later. Fun fact, one of the guys they date in that scene is

the Winter Soldier himself, Sebastian Stan. Oh, Sebastian Stan is in the movie, yeah. Who was dating Leighton Meester at the time. Oh my God. This is powerful. This is powerful. And our guest is sort of like gesturing at the importance of this. Speaking of lesbians, okay?

Speaking of queerness. Queerness. Let's not like keep it at lesbianism i labeled and i and i and that's wrong it's okay it's okay these are two bona fide film stars stars of film the breakout film i'm gonna say the breakout film of the year for me my favorite film of the year i loved this so much I watched it the second I could. So much, yes. And then I ingested it, and I immediately was like, ugh.

See, the process of watching it makes you quite anxious. But it was like the most beautiful anxiety attack that I would like to experience again and again. And the poster! The poster. You have one of our guests in a cream cheese gown. Can you imagine? A star was born, I said. A star was born, I said. Let's bring our guests in. They're both the stars of Shiva Baby.

Phenomenal movie. And you know them and you love them from- A plethora. A sundry plethora of other things. Spell sundry. S-U-N-D-R-Y. Pretty easy to spell. Not easy to use in a sentence. That's why I was sort of so taken with you in that moment.

Yeah, yeah. Spell plethora. P-L-E-T-H-O-R-A. Smart queen. I think these are two phenomenal, phenomenal people. And we're so excited to have them. Who are here to stay. Who are here to stay. Who are here to stay.

Oh, make no mistake. And we're going to introduce them alphabetically. Okay, good. Thank you for doing that because you know it would have been a nightmare. It would have been a nightmare. But everyone, welcome. Molly Gordon and Rachel Sennett! Yes!

Yes! Yes! Hi. It is a moment in time. I'm so glad that you've talked about Pinkberry already because I love it so much. How many of them are in LA still? Well, it really, it popped off and I had a moment and I used to go there for dinner.

I used to fully go there for dinner. Molly, that's beautiful. And then it like closed a lot. I think a lot i think a lot of places closed there are actually three because i was having this conversation with someone this morning with my boyfriend with an imaginary person um and we looked up how many pink berries there were because we remembered when it was a big thing right i'm gonna confirm but i think there are three confirm and let's let mama let's research as,

as, as we've said in the past, but the thing is, um, pink berry, would we call it sort of the in and out of desserts? Would it, is that,

does it occupy that cultural space? Cause, but in and out as kind of like still the test of time in terms of burgers, whereas pink berry, we think had a moment we identify with it as being a sort of aughts situation and yet it exists i will say that in and out the reason it's so beloved is that it's it's hard to find it's hard to it's hard to come across and pink berry was kind of ubiquitous for for a little bit

okay right it was like it was everywhere it came on the scene as like this health thing kind of and this new health but then it wasn't healthy and then it kind of lost its way and it gave us all diarrhea but we were kind of like is this i thought it was kind of like having greek yogurt but it's not greek yogurt but it's not right right i want to say i was completely wrong there's only seven there's like there's not i came in so hot with that i was like three three um there's more but i that is not 100 my fault that was said to me this morning yes it was right and this just goes to show you can't trust men they can't be trusted especially when it comes to frozen yogurt places actually when it comes to froyo now he has to take to instagram and do an ig live and talk about froyo honestly yeah truly i apologize for misinforming my girlfriend about the number of froyo places in you know i who i

really hope is not listening to this is demi she's not gonna she's not gonna be dealing well with this had you guys heard about the dent what i'm calling the 2021 demi lovato frozen yogurt controversy and what were your sort of takes well that's what sparked the conversation oh my god see i told you everyone was talking about it well that's what i do every morning wake up look at twitter find something really dark to talk about. Something sad. Also, I just want to explain, when I was going like this, full circle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was making a circular motion

with her hands and she was saying full circle. I grew up in LA, so Big Chill is where I went. Where the location is back. So this is like, and this is something else that's important about the story. This is like a sort of storied Froyo place. It's the iconic LA place where you're going not for health.

You're going for delicious dairy options, sugary things. You're after school going there for a light snack before dinner, you know, kind of large order of Froyo pre-dinner and, you know, after third grade or something it's not the place to drag they're not they're not they're just trying to keep up with it's not the place to drag wait demi was dragging big joe yes she really was and and the thing too is like she didn't stop like it was like it was like instagram story after Instagram story after Instagram story of her going for this place. And like showing receipts of her like conversation with the Froyo.

Whoever was like manning the Instagram, the 6,000 followed Instagram of the big chill in LA. It was really something. It was really something. It's not like, you know bar it's not it's not trying to be that they're just trying to give diabetics or people who who don't want to have as much sugar other options but they're not they're not even giving us a gluten-free option they're not taking it there no it's not automatically gluten-free or no i'm just saying like they're not trying to be healthy that's not

yeah yeah yeah yeah they're giving you the baseline i hope i'm actually gonna go big with go big games i hope after the pandemic we don't do any more of the like talking about stuff online i agree i hope after the pandemic online dies agreed i welcome i welcome the dark age though remember like you know how like people like the doomsday people on twitter like we're gonna enter like a technological dark age where like there is no electricity or whatever the hell and i'm like yeah well that's great like i could be good i could see that being good for well i think in some ways we were about to blow up something was going to happen then the pandemic happened and hopefully use this other

dark thing to like turn us into a better time in some way yeah i think the pandemic happened and then like we all thought that was bad and then when the 2021 demi lovato frozen yogurt controversy happened i think that's when we all realized like this was all a bridge too far and we all had to log off we just had to log off at that point i think can i tell you this is like this is playing out my biggest fear of leaving twitter which i decided to really permanently do as of last week but i i would have known about this i would have known about this if i was still on but doesn't it feel good to not know no i would have loved about this. I would have known about this if I was still on. But doesn't it feel good to not know? No, I would have loved to be part of the Discord. And now I feel...

That's the thing. I know. Could there be a thing like the scam or something that could send you just like funny Twitter stuff, but you wouldn't have to be on Twitter, but you'd get to know all the like silly news in some ways? Okay, Inventor Ass. Inventor Ass.

Okay, Leonardo da Vininci yesa that could literally just be like a friend or something or or dating someone but i think maybe we create an app we create an app we create maybe we create an app i do say i i do think like i also deactivated for a few days there i was like that's it for me too and i was just like gonna move forward with my life and then what you don't realize happens is in like group threads or just amongst texts something that happens all the time is they'll just send

a tweet and then in order to like see it or a video or something or like to see the news story you have to log in to go see it and then that's when you realize like oh it doesn't matter that I'm making the decision to not go off it because the rest of the world isn't making that decision and this is where news

happens right or for example that's where actually Molly and I got our message or request to do this show and see and that's because I knew because I knew I wanted to go straight to the source like I didn't I'm sure I could have gone through my email and found both

emails but I was like but i know where they both are on twitter and i did that and it was and and hence what we have right now i just want to say that we received the dm the group chat dm while we were together while our full hair and makeup done for the premiere, Molly actually screamed out loud. Oh. Threw her phone to the ground. All the hair and makeup people knew about the podcast. Oh, no. The guy doing my hair,

really clipping in fake hair, was like, that's huge. Forget the premiere, you're going on the pod. He literally did say, I quote, that's huge for you quote that's huge for you but we know it's really like the most exciting thing to happen to either of us i would say that's not true that's so not true this film is more exciting than the pod it is it just is

let's talk about it we must let's talk about i want to know and i i had this thought throughout the film especially in your scenes what was i mean this is such a gross like james lipton asked question but like but i want to know like what how did you how did you both develop this chemistry between between these characters because i was like this is crackling this is unlike anything i've ever seen okay molly is a really good listener and she's like an open person where like she's like warm but not in a fake way and so i feel like i don't know i feel like we clicked because also our dressing rooms which was my dressing room was a child's bedroom. Molly's room was maybe a guest room.

And we would go and sit in each other's rooms and just talk. And I feel like it was like natural. Yeah. But you had not met beforehand? No. That's like even weird to me. Yeah. I was so attracted to Rachel because she's so singular.

I was like, who is this human being? I just want to know everything about her. It was so effortless because of like who she is as a human. Oh my God. We met only once before in a Jack's wife Frida. Wait, what? And which one? Jack's wife Frida.

What is this? We already got, we're in the movie. We didn't know each other before. Yes. Yes. It was like literally two days before filming we met in a jack's wife i see i see just coincidentally or you were like hey we might as let's get lunch we met we met on purpose i should have said but i wasn't i was i was like oh my god do you also frequent this jack's wife frida yeah no it was purpose yeah but it's isn't it so great when the lunch goes well

like the pre-lunch oh my god i was nervous honestly well yeah yeah and then molly came in and me and emma the writer director were already there and then she came right up to us and um like touched our hair and was like we all have the same hair and then you do it went beautiful from there yeah i mean we all look exactly the same hair and then you do it went beautiful from there yeah i mean we all look exactly the same so it's kind of weird that we didn't know we're all like not interesting at all we look exactly the same yeah this is perfect this is perfect because had you had you seen molly before rachel yeah in film and television i saw her in book smart last i saw her in good boys but actually we that was after we had met um but

books i saw her in first so i also had seen molly in books more and molly in many things and then i was surprised when you meet molly and she's so like i'm extremely friendly because you do play a lot of characters molly that are sort of, I'm actually the coolest bitch you've ever met and don't speak to me, I'll speak to you if I want, but that's only if I want. That's sort of the energy of a lot of the characters you play, but then you are so lovely.

I don't know. I have no idea. Maybe I just can't get cast as a nice person. I don't know why. But it's, it's not as simple. I think it's like kind of flattens some context to be like, well,

Molly only plays these like aloof people because there was something about book smart where I think when you pick up, it reveals itself at the end that there's more going on there. But like also triple a is, you know, the triple a. Well, even when,

even in that scene where you, cause you pick up Beanie and, and, and book smart, right? There's, there's, there's that interaction there,

that scene where it's like, Oh wait, this is like, this is not just like mean person. This is like a grounded coolness that I'm, that you're like, I don't think I've seen this before because I think there's been a model that's been set.

And we've, Matt and I've talked about this a million times of like the Regina George model of like mean person. And I was, and this was just like, and Booksmart was just like, oh wait, yeah. Like this, we've, that person is sort of a caricature of something. And Molly's portrayal of that character in Booksmart is like very, very, very much swinging the other way

where it's like, Oh no, this is someone you would meet in real life. And you aren't, you're second guessing whether or not this person is like standoffish. Is that fair to say standoffish is like a harsh word. No, no,

no. That's, that's so kind of you, but yeah, I think, I think it's exciting that like we, I don't know that. Yeah.

To not cast people that like maybe on the page look like those those kind of characters are like the mean hot girl but like pick a more kind of normal looking person i'm thankful for that for that journey and to also play someone that's mean but also like probably is more vulnerable underneath right because that really is it isn't it inside all of us is more is more also i would say beanie's character projecting beanie and caitlyn are projecting all over you yeah yeah they because and i do that too where sometimes i'm like that i see a girl on instagram i follow her of course i look through her photos incessantly i'm obsessed with her and I'm like she would be mean to me in real life and I think that I like build almost like what it would be like to talk to a person I'm like I know yeah yeah yeah and then you meet them and they're kind of

like hey like completely ready you know what I mean and you're like oh of course I've actually built up this insane persona of you because of like, and it's all very specific to like every little insecurity that I have. So it's like, do you know what I mean? Yeah, 100%. We all relate to this. But then Rachel, like you've probably, I mean, you must have gotten this from other people

who are like, like rachel senate my god like they've built up this whole image around like interacting with you too i feel like the the version that i get of that is like if i go on a date and they're like are you gonna tweet about me can't even get a uh wine because it's gonna be on twitter yeah i'll be an alcoholic on twitter won't i yes that is what i've gotten sometimes and i'm like okay that actually i that was the old me but i only do that i only would do i would only do that if you're being really toxic and we were already involved in a non-relationship relationship, which is a fair game.

I'm only tweeting true things. If you're someone that I'm going to first date with, I'm not going to tweet about you unless I say it to you first. I actually approve a lot of my tweets about people. You run them by the subject. I run them by. Yeah. Ethical.

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wait how did you meet your boyfriend okay molly involved um he dm me on instagram at 4 a.m oh this is already um so he but here's the's the thing. He basically sent me a message. I wonder if I can find the message. You're going to scroll? Is it a long exchange? Or do you guys just made it happen pretty quickly? Because that's beautiful. We've been dating since

early October. Okay. Come on. Six months. Six months? Half year? Okay, math Olympiads. Proud of myself. Ass. Half year? Okay. I'm moving my ring over.

Yes! He messaged me at four in the morning saying, I was looking at your Instagram at four in the morning and it was really funny. Read. Sexual. And so then he said, if you're ever in la and want to hang out i would love to and would you immediately struck by his sort of you know aesthetic as well no no i initially was like here's the thing i was that was when i was still home living in my parents basement and i was doing i mean he seemed cute and cool but i was

doing a lot of like texting things and i was like i haven't like seen anyone in person i've just been like right facetime jerking off with guy after guy it's like exhausting right so i we messaged for a little but then i i kind of it sort of fell off then i get to LA um and I didn't I didn't immediately message him back because I got there in September then I was hanging out with Molly and I was like oh like this guy messaged me to hang out you guys follow each other is he cool oh is there is there a big reveal on who this guy okay sorry keep going well then Molly do you want to say what you said to me yeah that I birthed him no that i i love he's my kid no i just said i i love logan he's well actually the big reveal i like a straight white man the big reveal is that i adore this man and i was like he's lovely

and kind and i said they'll date for a long time and i said run into this man's arm wow you knew Molly was pro and then we went on and I looked at our text because we were doing this the other night where I was looking at what I said to Molly after our first date we went on a date at he literally asked me to hang out at 4 30 p.m which is in psychotic really unheard of daytime yeah we went on a really long that's the only that should have been a red flag but other than that it was such a great day he's really sweet um i i just love him and um we oh what's crazy is we would have met in person at south by because he's there for another film. And so it's sort of like we were like, OK, we were meant to meet.

Oh, my God, this is beautiful. Also, can I say something? Don't sleep on daytime dates because I think it also ultimately takes a pressure off that is there during a nighttime date. I recently had a very good daytime date. I hope he's listening. Hello. Um, but I, and it was, it almost like, cause I was like, let's hang out on Saturday night. And then right after I sent it, I was like, is that aggressive? And then he was like, well, let's hang out. Like, um, during the day, like at two, we can get like drinks outside or whatever. And I was like,

okay, cool. And that made it more casual for me. And that lets chemistry flow forth instead of it being like this, like steamy night. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.

It kind of makes things easier. I think. And do you know what? I actually like that because usually I feel like when I hear daytime date, I think hike, run. No, not necessarily. Sitting in a grass, getting bitten by bugs. That's good to me.

It can be frozen cocktails. It can be. It can be. Wait, Molly. This is lovely. Because last time I saw you, you were sort of towing the waters. We're not going to talk about this for me, but I'm so happy.

Towing the water. I don't, I don't, I don't have to know. Off pod. We'll all connect off pod and we can have. Okay. Molly is,

Molly is not getting into it on the air. She's not. I mean, I'm literally in bed with you, but I'm not going to get into it. Oh my God. I'm like, I'm tubing you, but I'm not gonna get into it oh my god I'm like never tubing you but I'm not gonna get into it don't tube in I'm so happy that

we all are here together because actually it's funny like I was about to message you guys and then I was like wait I haven't seen the movie yet I don't know like I haven't gotten to like to see like if the chemistry obviously is good on screen and off. So I asked Ben Platt.

I was like, wait, so like Molly and Rachel, like, is that a good vibe? Should we have them on the pod together? And he was like, oh my God, absolutely. Yes. Obsessed with each other would die. They would love. I was like, okay, great. But I did run it by him first because I was like, I would hate to be like, come on together

and then find out that the girls were defuting. Yeah, that we've been enemies for years. We put up this big front that we're friends in a movie together, but little do you know, you talk in group chat. Yeah, happens all the time.

Let's say, if I was in either of your position and I did not like the other one, I would still think it would be kind of interesting and fun to go on something together and do something together i just love the idea that there'd be like a huge feud in like the indie community for our like a hundred thousand dollar movie but like they didn't get along we didn't get along on set when we shot it for 15 days i would always take the one seltzer that was available before before we get into um we have to ask you both the absolute question but i want to know um about queen diana agron because i absolutely have been standing since the beginning of time

and then i saw the movie and she was she's so good she's phenomenal do we love yes good sure she's a wonderful fucking person yeah she's great oh my god i love her and she's so funny so good she really is fantastic in it and she's like oh my god i was gonna say though i texted i told molly this recently on an interview they asked me like what was it like working with diana and i was like she is the most lovely kind beautiful i cherish her and then i said in the movie she's so good her character is like terrifying to me like when she hands me the baby oh no article headline that's the whole quote rachel bennett is terrified of diana agron i was like what are people doing these people our fans are also keeping this movie alive sometimes they say like i'm so sorry diana

had to be in a film with like c-list celebrities so like that was amazing but they also like are keeping this movie afloat so i'm so thankful i don't know if they're so interesting thankful for them we are well there's something we are i have no authority on this and i'm speaking purely as like an as an idiot who is out of touch but like i think there's something about greek culture that has aged up into like the general twitter discord something about like them being empowered by a show that a show likely amazing like what we all like would have wanted as like little queer kids but then like they feel like they have this power and they do to like really make their opinions known about stuff and that's that that's all i'll

say yes but maybe but maybe that like that that's them thinking oh that's them going i can't it's so nice of diana agron to be in this movie with like normal normal actors or not normal actors but like by the way is a huge compliment a huge compliment great but it makes me think about the fact like i'm so happy that i wasn't a kid when i was watching i i that i didn't have like twitter or tiktok when i was watching glee yeah yeah i don't know what i would have done i had vine that was already a little freaky with me so i'm like yeah scary what i would have done were you both gleeks yes i i was a i liked the first couple seasons a lot and the reason i think that it makes sense

that it's sort of like um developed into stan into like what you're describing bowen it's like a stan twitter is because they were all pop stars in a way yeah like they really were like you would you it wasn't like a normal tv show where like you stand a character like once they started recording music they were all like little pop stars especially like the rivalries on the show itself like those were narratives that then would would eventually play out online and i think that probably is a show that like gets revisited a lot and everything now like it probably has people watching it now they're like discovering it and then they take to greek twitter yeah i was gonna say that i i just the movie is phenomenal but you see diana diana's character and you're like oh god oh this poor woman but also she's she is terrifying in

this way and she is adding this crazy stakes layer to it and it's just there's the alchemy and all of this is beautiful i think and i don't know i just think it's phenomenal i just i just had to compliment everybody about this anyway i really loved it too and i especially because like not to give anything away about the ending but what i really loved about like what it's so it was inspiring to me too like it really just takes place in the amount of time it takes you know what what I mean? Which I really liked. And then at the very end, without saying anything, like there's a moment between your two characters where you realize like,

while this two hours or whatever has been such a sort of tough, like maybe scarring experience for Rachel's character, like what she's going to leave with and what's going to be important in her life and the grand scheme of everything is this relationship and like I just thought that that was like that that there was like a truly it was like a three second moment at the very very end where I was like oh that's like the whole movie right there it's just like it's really about how like we all have those periods in our life i'm sure you both have had them where it's just like i feel like i am in hell and now you look back on it and you're like

wow i really felt like i was in hell but something i still have from that is this relationship or this moment or this thing i learned about myself so like i don't know was that something that you felt in the script or was it something that you felt when you watched it? Like, I wonder about that for you guys. Matt and Bowen, I feel like you saw me in hell. The last time I did, I don't think so, honey. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. You were having a rough time. That was a bad week. It was really, really, that was actually maybe the lowest point in my life. I remember you came up to me and you were really in distress and I was like, oh my God, are you okay? Yeah.

I was openly crying the whole show. I was like, and honestly, I felt so supported by everyone on the show. Of course. Because literally all 100 comedians, every person gave me like a little bit of wisdom. I was taking hits

off of people's duels and weed pens but it was I I really felt like I went through the arc that Danielle goes through in one day from probably the time that we did the short to the feature where I felt like I like could not get in I could not get people I could not get respect in relationships or I felt like I couldn't and I felt like it was so I I felt like it was so hard to get someone to love me and like I was just like a mess after that night I was addicted to poppers every I literally was doing poppers every single day for three months. There was a time one morning where Catherine Cohen took me to like brunch. I was crying openly during that.

Then she gave me watered down vodka and I went to like walk back to my apartment and I had to like sit down on the, on the ground, meaning the concrete sidewalk of the west side highway just doing poppers raw 11 a.m in the daylight because i was like i need to do something and i felt i had to go through that and my friend heard me through um maya's not danielle's friend she's but i mean they're exes but it's that that same thing where it's like you i think you have to like go through that like really shitty time to know like your worth or like make a change

and like at the end of the movie i think i don't think danielle like goes home and is like i'm starting a business tomorrow no it might even it might even continue to be bad for her for a few months after that like she'll have to find herself out of her emotional situation, her literal physical situation. But what I loved about that moment at the end is it was like, this girl has real love in her life. And ending the movie on that moment, I thought it was a way to say this will be something that will that she will remember and that will help her and that she will she hasn't lost as much as she thinks and spatially

it's like you have Maya and Danielle sort of walking in the open air and then it and then the movie without giving away like the last sort of moment of it like it ends on another moment of claustrophobia where like the whole film is about just like things closing in on you and like this is just one last charming moment of like some resolution but still ultimately like you're packed in that's all that's all we will say but like but rachel

talk about this timing where like you were you would just finish the short at that time when you were doing poppers off the west side highway that was actually after that was right after we finished the feature oh my god i would say that period of my life began after the shore 23 was really the rough year yeah but 24 it was like segwaying out no oh my god I'm old. I've lived it all. I'm grown. More grown than me. How long was that period from the short to the feature?

Like two to three years. Wow. So you felt like you were in like a personal hell even while you were shooting the film. I think it was like not every single day. But you know, when you look back at a period of your life it feels like a fever the whole time yeah yes yeah we're just like i was like there were so many decisions i was just made i just like if i was to like see her i would be like oh no like you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah but you have to right you must i mean yeah

i think that yeah those that just looking back on those periods i remember i feel like one is probably like when i was like coming out of the closet i remember i can describe it as they're feeling like i was in having a fever every single day and then that happened again during my sorry but like return to saturn when i was like 27 28 years old when we were going through a lot and like personally i was going through a lot and it just feels like i would open my eyes every single day and i would just be like the first thing i would think is like no i don't want to wake up and do this day like and now looking back on those periods it's like those are some of the most

important because because ultimately you do make it through them and then and then you feel stronger because of it i would imagine molly's had these times as well she's like right now uh no yeah that's why i think the movie is so important for also like um all these little ladies that are trapped in their homes right now because like yeah the only way is through and like you can't spend your life being like why is this fucking happening why is this and like you can't spend your life being like why is this fucking happening why is this not working out why and you just have to like push on and try to learn from those experiences and like how humbling is life if you like just let it happen to you and like learn from it and don't I like have spent so much of my life being like why is this happening what instead of being like oh my god I am becoming a better human i am learning so much i don't know anything and i feel like this movie like

dances that dance so beautifully and i wish because i i they don't teach you that they just don't know no i watched this movie and then even now as we're talking about i'm like oh but you know there's something that i feel like i've learned and gleaned over the past year. Um, just in terms of coping with shit. And I feel like that is kind of what the movie is about ultimately, or it's like, I, you want,

you go on this real time journey with, um, with Danielle and you're just like, Oh God, this, this is all impossible. And then, and then somehow it's like,

yeah, you're right, Molly, like the only way is through. And you're just like, okay, like you, you built the plane as you flew it. And maybe, but you also just like by the end by the end of it you have a plane at least like you have some again mechanism around like dealing with something as harrowing as that and even on this podcast like your guys's friendship i feel like

so much you're like and then we talked and like i was able to feel better about something for a second and like that moment at the end where they like hold hands is like okay like one person in my life like kind of understands me and like that's enough for this moment it doesn't understand me but like is willing to look at me and like see me and that's like enough for this moment and like our friends are those people and how lucky are we totally yeah and it's it really the fact that it the fact that i feel like i was able to watch this movie and then leave feeling good like says so much about that moment because you really like the girl is like she did like danielle is so it's so bad for her like you're you're like oh my god this is so fucked it's so rough like

like by the time that movie is over you're like oh no like this girl like is it over and and then there's that moment and you just feel so much better and like testament to the directing we gotta say yeah what's what's emma's deal we have to talk about emma i know i just have to say that i misunderstood the last page of the film and I still said yes to it. And I told Rachel, I read it and I thought that my character was fingering her in the back of the car. You thought that until you were going to shoot it?

I literally on the day was like, okay, like, how do I get into this? All right, so she, okay, it's like a moment of connection. All right, like, do i get into this all right so she okay it's like a moment of connection all right like trying to get into it wow no you guys hold hands you psycho um but let's talk about emma who's like the most unbelievable force in the way yeah rachel you go yes talk about emma talk about emma well emma i met when i auditioned for the short and I literally feel like it was like fate like I think she is a genius she's so like she's so I feel like we're similar but so different and in a way where we like compliment each other like she's so grounded and she knows what she wants

like I remember Molly saying to me when it was like the second or third day of shooting like oh my god look at how happy she is she's literally like glowing in her element because she's so i mean i okay this is gonna sound stupid i didn't realize how hard directing was no no i know what you mean yes it's the hardest job oh it's you have to do so much heart attack every day it's so it literally is like 900 degrees in the house there are old people there's a baby that is screaming on and off set whether or not they're the baby was on camera and it's like every person who has a question about anything is like Emma Emma Emma and like she just knew what she wanted which I think it was like you have to be you have to like

be flexible and work with everyone but also like maintain your vision and I think Emma did that beautifully and she also wrote from a place of i think she wrote about things that were connect she connected to in her life and like were important to her and i think that really resonated with young women and you can like i mean bowen when you were talking about like stans and twitter i was like it's honestly like sometimes they can be scary but they're but also they like supported the movie and are yeah reason that it's like doing so well yes like young women shared it on social media and so of course yeah i feel like that speaks to emma's like talent and voice very intuitive yeah and it sounds like and isn't it one of those things

where it's like you meet someone like that on a collaborative level or on a friendship level with like you and Molly, but it's like, doesn't it feel like falling in love when it's like so, so perfect? Yes. It's like, wow, I found someone, you know?

And you two have this creative relationship now that's about to pop off and like do more things. And that's the best thing. You won. It literally does feel, we were saying that it feels like shiva is like we had a baby together but i will say she is the one that gave birth and i'm like the i'm because i she's like hearing on the side edited it i'm like i was involved but she gave the birth um but yeah it feels very very very special. And it honestly does feel like a marriage. And then it's like, as you get to new levels,

you have, it's like such a deep relationship because you have to be able to like balance your friendship and like working creative, like so much. I mean, like, obviously you guys know, like it's like when you're doing a pro it's there's so many different things um but like it feels very very special and I remember when we went to South by for the short we like stayed in like one little room in an Airbnb together and like I was like oh my god she's like my person yeah just such like a special week and then now and then

we met molly and now we're a gorgeous group of friends it's just it feels very a triptych but i have to say rachel and emma are the most inspiring unbelievable duo and like don't wait around for people to give them opportunities they just made a movie for no money themselves and we're like brave enough to do that and i'm sure we all know so many people that are like i want to do this and i want to do this and are just waiting around yeah for like someone to give them money to make something and they just like fucking did it and it's me and it's working out for them yeah well we love the movie and can't recommend it enough to everyone um we have to ask these ladies the question which is the really essential question of our show wouldn't you say bow yes i would say so i would say so well the question is what was

the culture that made you say culture is for you and molly gordon i would like to pose it to you first what was the culture that made you say culture was for you wow i can't believe to be at this moment so being a lifelong fan to be standing here on the stage i didn't know that i would get this one absolutely shaking i think mine would be seeing r-rated movies with my parents on a friday night when i was it was kind of age inappropriate for me to be seeing them right i really connected to kate berlant's episode about being an only child and like being brought to things that maybe you wouldn't normally be brought to because there

was no one to leave you with and i just remember my parents bringing me like to anchorman when i was 10 years old and like getting thrifty ice cream and chip like sitting between them everyone else is on a date and it's a packed theater and everyone is just laughing so fucking hard and like the communal laughter was so infectious and amazing and when he said like san diego is a whale's vagina yeah yeah so fucking hard but i had no idea what it meant i have literally no idea but every the whole like it makes me sad in covid because i missed that so much like the whole room was shaking yeah i was like oh all i want to do is like understand why people are laughing like this yeah i have no fucking idea and like just being i don't know

getting to to kind of see things maybe that i shouldn't have but but kind of being so curious about what they were. Yeah. Was so like exciting and made me want to kind of be in on that joke. That's a great answer. Literally Bowen. Wait, this reminds me of,

so about me, Bowen and Anna Dresden went to go see 50 shades of gray years ago. We went to go see 50 shades of gray. The first movie opening day, February 14th, Valentine's day and literally we watch probably i'm gonna say 90 of the movie like we get all the way to the end it's art she's been like fucked every which way like truly like they have sex so many times in the most 50 shades of gray

ways the movie really goes there and then at the end of the theater like in the back we just hear this voice and it was huge it was like the it was like the eye picks like in like battery city or something yeah like it was like a huge theater like it was like on valentine's day i remember it was a huge deal and in the back of the theater we just hear mommy i need to go to the bathroom and literally this child like everyone in the theater gasped just cathartically goes what everyone just turned around like

it was like the hundreds of people a sea of people just turning to like the source being like what happened someone had brought their child to that movie like cause R-rated movie sure and then Anna said like at the time

she said like she was laughing too we were all laughing but she was like you know some people they can't afford a sitter like yeah they have to bring their kid like whatever and i was like yeah yeah yeah but probably not this movie this is like mommy needed mommy needs her fix like yeah yeah so i'm talking like comedy an r-rated comedy we're talking yes a group comedy we're talking about a couple swear words we're not talking about sure frontal tie-up nudity yes tie-up nudity i have a couple i have a couple questions though yeah one it's interesting that you bring up the only child thing because do you think that you wouldn't have been brought to these movies had you had siblings hmm yeah i just think when you're an only child you kind of get brought

around i really connected with her being like you you go to these dinner parties and you kind of like ask these questions that you wouldn't you're you're brought into the conversation and it's such a beautiful thing at such a younger age but also like sometimes you're like should i really be talking yeah yeah yeah but it's also why i feel like i've i always connected more to like older people until i got to a certain age where i was like that's like a week where i was like i have all my friends are older and it was like ben platt that's like a year and a half and i was like um but but yeah and i think my parents were like, we can't like fully afford a sitter right now. And like, maybe if they had another kid, it would have been it or they would have had friends that had more kids and left me with them.

Right. Yeah. Right. Just to remark on that. It is I think it is a good development. It's a positive thing that like Gen Zers want nothing to do with older people. And it's like and that that makes sense because it's like, and also millennials should not aspire to be like Gen Zers either. It should not go either way because it's like, if I was in high school

and like a 30 year old was trying to like mimic me, I'd be like, you're fucking weird. Stop. I feel like though millennials looked up to Gen X because there was aspiration about that generation meanwhile i think that like gen z looks at all the generations above it and is like you all fucked up so bad yes i don't want anything to do with you or the world that existed before like it's fucked like we're dealing with so much shit so yeah that might be why like

at when we when we were all younger like it was like older people were cool you know what i mean like even like even like the way that like older people played teens you know what i mean like the entire cast of clueless being in their late 20s or whatever like you know what i mean like you wanted to be older yeah you're right literally like like all those teen movies like she's all that or whatever like freddie prince jr being 40 always no now it's like a different thing where they're like oh we fully want like a real a person in high school to play a high schooler not like a yes but we're like why do i have boobs like that and it's like we've had two children and it's different yeah

yeah it felt like you guys were the oldest people that could have been in book smart like any older it would have been like no way yes yes yes and we were already like it wasn't okay in some ways but i know what you mean yeah it's like now i look at how beautiful is it to connect with people your own age i don't know why i always had this huge kind of fixation on it like they deemed me worthy enough or smart enough to be able to like talk to them and my older friends were like why are you like we don't even think about you as being younger sure well it felt it felt cool to be like precocious or whatever right yeah yeah but um okay the other question was besides anchorman do you remember other r-rated movies that you guys went to yeah i mean it was always the kind of mckay com i feel like it was like, yeah, too. Um, but I mean,

I don't even remember. Honestly, it's the R rated comedies that I think are 40 year old virgin, all those ones. Um, yeah, those kind of stuck with me. I mean,

you definitely saw some romantic ones too, not a full, like, uh, 50 shades, but that was a, this, which is always,

I won't be able to see, but like, this doesn't work. No. Yeah. Hands over the eyes and there's sort of a, there's a peeking. And it doesn't work for the exact reason why,

why you're showing, which is, let me explain to the readers. Basically Molly is covering her face, but you can see in between her sort of middle and index finger, there's clearly an eye. So really what she can do is see. When I saw Spring Awakening

and I'm seeing a full ass, mom goes like this. In some ways, I have a better view of the ass. Okay. Did you see Jonathan Groff's ass or Hunter Parrish's ass? You better believe I saw both

multiple times and it rang me every time. I wish I had seen John Groff's ass. Although you can see it so many times in film and television now. But I saw Hunter Parrish's ass, which also was great.

But you can see that in film and television too. They both show their ass a lot. Which we love. Perfect. Perfect. I love ass. Male celebrity ass. I'm like a connoisseur.

Like, I truly love butts so much. I love that. I love that format. And I'm here to be brave and say it. Okay, so now that. I love that for format. I'm here to, I'm here to be brave and say it. Okay. So now we turn, we,

we turn to Rachel Senate and we say, now, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you? Okay. So I thought about this a lot because Molly and I had a pre-call to talk about. Because, because I, there was like a,

I wanted to be like an actress or be in the arts since I was little. But when I was growing up, I wasn't allowed to watch a lot of TV and movies. Like I wasn't really allowed to watch inappropriate stuff. And so I feel when I was in high school, actually, honestly, college, when I was first, when I first had like a laptop and I could watch stuff,

I experienced the movie Bling Ring. And I said, this is my shit. I love the kind of stuff that I want to make. I want to be in. I love a movie that's like five girls one guy they're walking in unison we're listening to sleigh bells they're trying on clothes they're calling each other bitch that is my kind of movie and i loved it and i think like that that was when i was like i knew the genre that that i like yes oh that's a part that is such a perfect sorry to bring up this word again but that's a perfect like activating

movie but but this answers the question so perfectly it is the culture that made you say i'm going to focus in on bling ring i mean but that is the answer right because like yeah that is such a good one oh my god sleigh bells you're right fucking is underrated sophia the the first scene is like when they're running through the dark and like yeah yeah and then it starts with the sleigh bell song and it's like and you're and it's like bitch let's go like yeah yeah yeah like it's so good the shot crazy wide shot and just stays on that that that one take is is that paris's house was there's just that one house yeah paris's house where you just see them like you see the whole house and all the interiors and they're just like flipping on the

light switches going in and out genius so good yeah and you can hear and you see them and then there's like one person all the way over here and it's like the sliding glass doors it's great yes yes it's that typical thing too of like it is a very good sofia coppola movie but they don't list it as one of her best because people don't think that because it's about young people and especially young women they don't give it the half of everything else and they do the same thing with mar Marie Antoinette, which I believe is her like magnum opus. And I think that it's actually like maybe her most important work. Cause I do think that her most important artistic relationship is with Kirsten Dunst.

And I think that it's so good and so inventive and so perfect encapsulation of, or at least in her mind, like who this woman might have been but you don't see it talked about as one of sofia coppola's best like you do lost in translation because it's not about like a sad older guy you know what i mean and i think like what she's so good at is like really capturing the experience of being a young woman and i think that that that movie like maybe it's because it was about hollywood too or about this like reality star adjacent group of people but

people sleep on bling ring they really do they really do yeah wait molly were you gonna say something about marie antoinette i saw your face no i just fucking love that movie yeah yeah she just like is freer than i feel like people give her credit for like her movies are all very different actually like she has a like you you can definitely like link all her films but like she takes like big swings and like takes chances and i feel like they don't like they don't know who they are but they don't like, they don't, I don't know who they are, but they don't like when she does that. No, no, you're right. Yeah.

I haven't, I haven't seen on the rocks that her newest one. Um, I, I, I never saw somewhere. Somewhere is like a tone poem. Yeah.

Yeah. It's really a sit. And it's very, it's very much like an actual, it's very much like a slice of life, actual of Stephen Dorff's life. Like, do you know that Stephen Dorff,

like really lives at the Chateau Marmont and like, still does so he really lives there and like um so it's really like about this guy that's very close to him and it's got l fanning and she's really young in it and um fanning kind of going through a pool it's like jordan casablanca singing it's a kind of rachel and i will never be in because we're too loud like same because you swim too loud no because we speak too loud you know what i mean we're not gonna get out yeah i feel like screen acting is just about speaking softly literally but you two have done that absolutely but it's not full whisper it is scary when you realize wait if i make this tape and i kind of whisper are they gonna be into it literally every it's been a revolution for me in the past like year and a half like i i i was i always used to really struggle in auditions and i never knew what was the problem and then i just

realized like oh i kept getting the note like you can't you can't throw it away throw it away you're really struggle in auditions and I never knew what was the problem. And then I just realized like, Oh, I kept getting the note. Like, you can't, you can't throw it away. Throw it away. You're too big. You're too big. Cause I think it's because we are, I mean, Rachel knows like we are truly creatures of the New York stage. So it's like, you know, like I didn't have acting training. Like I learned how to be effective on stage from screaming in a basement so it was like and then like my big face was like a skill of mine and so it was just like when it when it comes to on camera acting like i didn't realize really what that ever meant and then throw it away it's it's just truly like you having to understand that like by thinking it you do it like it's so weird but it does it almost doesn't feel

right like sometimes i'll leave auditions and feel like but i didn't do anything and those are the ones that go well it's so weird but it's good that you guys are all doing this now because i not to like say like woe is me but i feel like i'm fucked because i am working in this place where it's like yes you scream loud and you read off of a white paper card. And like that, that's not how it works. Anywhere else. I actually was so,

first of all, I have to shout you out because you brought the house down and are an icon and we're so unbelievable in the last episode. Like it's unbelievable, like life changing performance, but you had so many levels in that vocally. I felt really you did. There was the moment when you were like i turned around like what and like there was like the small moment but but but it is true though like i remember one time

like it's not it's non-transferable credits it's like yeah whatever but well what that's not really true though because kristen wig is super small and she was like on that show and was so big right like but like i i'm not a christian wig where i can like switch the gear in my head because i'm gonna like i'm truly bringing like i'm bringing this to other places and i'm realizing that it's like it's actually not normal like i like not to i'm sorry i'm sorry to get into that though but but like i i finished saturday at snl and then uh on monday i went went into Nora from Queens and then I was like, and then I,

I didn't get the note, but I, I told, I clocked myself being like, you're being too loud. You're being too big. And this is, this is a different thing.

And you got, you got to keep it whisper, not whisper, but like it is a crazy realization. And Molly's probably known this for a while, but I feel like, yes, but me and Rachel and Matt have probably like been too like indoctrinated in like the you gotta get their attention yeah

well it's like the back you're at union hall there's like people in the bar at the back being like a beer no a beer yeah and you're like what it's so yeah rachel weren't you a hammer cat no no actually i got called back. Did not make it into the group. Oh, that's not my legacy that I like to leave. I don't like that. I want to go speak to them. It's okay.

Do you know what? Actually, I'm grateful because that's why I started doing stand-up. It's because I didn't get a lot of hats. So then I said, I want to perform somewhere. Then I met Moss. And everyone was like, this guy Moss does stand-up is because i didn't get it so then i said i want to perform somewhere then i met moss and everyone was like this guy moss just stand up moss we love moss i love moss and then um we would do open mics together that's paracone yes uh paracone paracone paracone paracone the the best it's because we it's because we used to we're used to reading it i know and honestly another hazard of online hazard of online you're used to reading him

on a show poster yeah on twitter um moss permanently deleted twitter good for him yeah bravery and truth for how long did you know like how does he feel about his account is gone great great great great, great. Hero. Also, Emma Watson, whenever anyone's like, Emma Watson's not great. I'm like, well, you didn't see the bling ring. You didn't see the bling ring. When you can say multiple lines that people say,

again, first of all, I want to rob. Yeah. I want to say that. Girl, it's time for your Adderall. there's so many lines in that movie that i just say alone to myself when i'm what does he say like i think i'm not going to politics or something like that yeah yeah rachel playing this in like the musical version i'm kind of kind of maybe be really compelling and interesting yes as a play maybe even the play yeah when were you aware of it as a true story when you watched it the first time i remember seeing the trailer i watched

the trailer obsessively because i loved i love when it's like candy do you know what i mean where you like yeah the aesthetic pops out yeah and then i um looked up that it was it said i think it said like based on trevance or something and then i looked up the videos and then i knew that going in yeah and then i knew the alexis naira's video the the iconic yeah nancy joe this is alexis naira's calling, the, the, the iconic. Yeah. Nancy Jo, this is Alexis Naira's calling. I just wanted to say, I'm so disappointed. I gotta,

I gotta say it ends like in a really heartbreaking way. Well, yeah. She's like, she's like, you don't know that I'm becoming like a little girl. No, a young woman.

It's like, Oh, this poor girl, Alexis. And then it got really rough for her. And then now she's okay. And now she's okay. And when she was on, when she was on Z-Ways live over the summer, I was like, Oh, this poor girl, Alexis. And then it got really rough for her. And then now she's okay. And now she's okay. And when she was on,

when she was on Z-Ways Live over the summer, I was like, oh, she's, she's, she seems like she's doing well. That was her prop. Maybe it wasn't her Saturn return, but that was her. Oh. That was her.

And the only way is through. Oh my God. The only way is through. I'll do it again. Full circle. Full circle. She did it again. The only way is through. The only way is through i'll do it again full circle she did it again readers the only way is through the only way is through might be the title of that i love that i love that so much wait before we move on i want to know i molly i want to ask about this lakers show what can you say

about it is it about the la lakers in the 70s yeah it's about the it's about magic johnson joining the team in 1979 and jerry bus buying the lakers um but i haven't i start on friday i've been starting it has not been shot we were supposed to shoot a year ago but then we pushed for covid for a year so so i'm kind of like maybe it'll start friday or maybe it'll start in 75 years i I'm not sure. You're going to start on Friday. Oh, and how long is the shoot? It's until I think it's like until October, October, November. Oh, shit. So that's the summer.

But it'll be it'll be it's such a fun time period and the music and the costume. And it's HBO. And it's HBO. And it's gorgeous men playing basketball players. What more could you want? We have Bo Burnham playing Larry Bird. Oh, that's great casting. Right, though?

Breaking the internet in some ways with that casting. 100%. Have you met Bo? No. He's lovely. Oh, but we met him very briefly at Woltryfest. We did meet him, yeah. I'm obsessed with Bo Burnham. Yeah, he's great. He's lovely. Oh, but we met him very briefly at Woltorfest. We did meet him, yeah. I'm obsessed with Doug Vernon.

Yeah, he's great. He's really, really good. How can someone be that talented an actor, that talented a writer, that talented a director, and seem like such a good person? I don't understand it. Yeah, and that talented of a comedian, stand-up, but then also understand the inner mind of an 8th grade girl. Yeah, it's crazy.

That movie is so that was so it's incredible i couldn't believe how good that movie was eighth grade yeah that was that was another one that i was just like and talk about visual style and wanting to eat the movie like that movie was like and the music remember the scene where like it's like the hot kid and he's like such a child oh yeah he like comes out of the pool and he's got those like like blue eyes and like they do like that sexy like dubstep music and you're like i was screaming laughing because i'm like funny yes this was the kid yes this is the feeling of seeing the kid like sexualizing the kid in this way that's for comedy but also

like you do get it like it's so funny but also the lighting of that movie like the heat I feel like I've never seen just like a dark room with your your face and that's just so many people but like live

with that and like I haven't really seen that explored yeah very sad very sad when the dad is trying to talk to her at dinner and she has the headphones in and she's like what and I'm like deep down she wants to connect but she can't I'm like so sad oh my god that's hell too that's like your first round of hell yeah her anxiety attack that she has at the pool party I was like oh my god, that's hell too. That's like your first round of hell. Yeah. Her anxiety attack that she has at the pool party, I was like, oh my god. I couldn't believe that a straight man

was responsible for capturing this. I was like, this is so real. Like, that moment of panic just appearing in a swimsuit with your peers. Ugh. Man. Follows you into adulthood, kind of kind of yeah in a major way and a major way and also the end of that movie too where she's like do you think i do you think i'm a loser or something or she says and he's like i think you're so cool and he's

telling his daughter he thinks she's so cool oh my god and then that little date that she has that little dinner date that she has with that kid this is just oh that kid was great alison jones deserves to be put in heaven for the rest of her life like what the fuck let's shout out miss alison jones iconic casting director i had one meeting with her nothing came of it but i enjoyed my experience she's lovely wow she just always has like the people that are those people not just yeah yeah it's just genius yeah exactly she cast um q4 is the animated show i wrote i wrote on and she she does an amazing job yeah so she i was i was writing for a show that she cast that's animated uh more to come on that one oh um but listen i think we

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Listen to Call It What It Is on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yes, I agree. We're going to start a conversation. Matt, do you have one? Would you like to go first? Yes, I have one and I can go first. Okay, let me get the timer up. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey

and his time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey fro-yo. Ice cream is better. Sorry about it. But if I'm going to be out here eating any frozen treat or dessert, it's going to be ice cream. It's not going to be frozen yogurt. Also, I'm sorry, but I don't think so.

Honey, Froyo, I can't look at you the same anymore. After I watched Demi Lovato use the words Froyo upwards of 50 times in an eight minute long apology video where she said the sentence when I messaged the fro-yo shop dot dot dot like I said fro-yo has jumped the shark unfortunately Demi Lovato has ruined frozen yogurt for me or should I say fro-yo for us all maybe she's right maybe there should be

no shops maybe the big show should shut right down and we should open a salt and straw maybe we need a Jenny's maybe we need a sc's. Maybe we need a Scoops, which was my hometown ice cream place. I'm sorry, but search your memories of childhood. Do you have memories of ice cream

or do you have memories of fro-yo? Your memories of ice cream. It is the blueprint for fro-yo. Ice cream first. I don't think so, honey. Fro-yo. And that's one minute. I'm in awe. i'm in awe i'm in awe i feel that

ice cream tastes better ice cream's flavors are more real feeling you know what i mean like it's just like fro yo i just feel like i don't i don't get really get it and also yogurt i don't like so why would i like it frozen well yogurt we love yogurt you can speak for your fucking self okay i love yogurt whoa whoa wait can i ask a question whoa whoa i have a breakdown you can ask a question and wait the talk back begins now yes i'm now fielding questions well wait so do you mean do you mean yogurt yogurt or frozen yogurt i well i don't think so honey was frozen yogurt i like plain yoke greek yogurt with um you know a little bit of granola berry honey lovely lovely lovely treat that simulates ice cream in some ways but fro-yo is tough because it's it's like

pancakes almost it's like the idea sounds great and then once you're like in it it really kind of doesn't hold up because it's never gonna be ice cream and it's trying to be ice cream and she's never gonna be ice cream trying to be ice cream though why is she dressed up in all these flavors then why is she saying i'm strawberry i'm vanilla i'm chocolate why is she dressed up in all these flavors then? Why is she saying I'm strawberry, I'm vanilla, I'm chocolate? Why is she saying you can cover me in all these things? If McDonald's soft serve, where are we putting that? Ice cream. Ice cream.

The best ice cream. But even though it's like swirly like that. It doesn't matter what soft serve ice cream. Now we're getting into the distinction. And so thank you for teeing up teeing up this distinction which is ice cream can be both hard scoop or soft serve it can be both frozen yogurt certainly can't scoop it yeah kind of like a triangle or rectangle square yes it's not versatile enough yeah and i'm telling you demi lovato like she may have a point that queen that queen may have had a point this time i need to say one more thing

that you talked about in our opening thing before we came in i fucking hate on like tv shows when people don't eat when people are like just playing with the ice cream yeah eat that don't eat it just eat it what a gift yeah what a guess so this this is this actually is an interesting thing so bowen and i recently did the summer campaign for bonobos so that's going to be hitting the internet and screens and store storefronts very soon but they handed us ice cream for one of the shots bowen we ate it we ate it all when i tell you i i ate three whole cones because because what a gift because molly's right a gift and i never am eating this stuff because i'm trying i'm trying to be hashtag like body conscious i'm

trying to like be good about like what i put in my body and like i am being a little bit of a psycho and like summer's coming up can't eat anything anything bad. Like, it's not good. I'm not saying I'm right, but it is the way I am, um, for better or worse. And like, they handed us that ice cream and I was like,

well, it's for work. So then it was just like, I was like shoveling it down. And I, I think I ate like three cones and they were like, okay, we need to take that one because for the shot,

you need to be holding a fresh one. And I was like, well, I'm not done with this one. And they're like, yeah, but it's for the picture. It to be holding a fresh one and i was like well i'm not done with this one and they're like yeah but it's for the picture it's not for you and i was like well hold on and so i ate that we were eating cotton candy on set i'm ready to see these photos they'll be fun they came out good i love eating in a photo oh yeah i do and i honestly love to be honest i do my best acting if i'm eating while i'm acting because there's no way to fake there's no way to fake like

authenticity it's just real real it's real you eat the way that you eat and then naturally everything comes out the way oh my god i guess the only thing with that though is it's a little bit of a continuity nightmare like i was was wondering about that shooting Shiva baby. Cause there's so much food in the movie. Like, did you ever, do you have to be like very conscious about like the continuity of it all?

I will say the bagel, the everything sat out in the house, which again, no air conditioning. So it was kind of, we, the it's expensive, the food.

And so like we had the same food and then um the like set person the like designer would put stuff in the fridge in between takes so it wouldn't go bad but by the time i was eating the bagel and the lox they were like don't put the lox in your mouth so i just put the other side of the bagel into my mouth and that's a and that's a technical thing that you have to think about while you're yeah yeah there's an extra layer to that but wait what was this house did miss park yes yes lovely i was really impressed with you and that scene by the way because that was one shot and when you went all the way up and did the bagel I'm like what if she was like freaking

out and couldn't butter the bagel like she really did that one I thought that that scene with the buttering and the or the smearing and the adding of the everything onto the bagel I thought that was well done

I love it when you're like these reactions when you're doing things and you don't was well done when you're like these reactions when you're doing yeah and you don't even really have to you're like you don't even really have to like time to open the sauce to really stress you know yeah because you're like the character is focused on the smearing not the acting yes right exactly i love this. Well, that's my attack on Froyo for today. It feels like I have some people on my side. Bone Yang, are you ready for your I Don't Think So Honey? I'm ready.

I'm ready. Okay, that's good. Because your time, Bone Yang, starts now. I Don't Think So Honey peeing into a cup? Honey went to the doctor today. First of all, got blood work done didn't have the heart to tell trevor my pa that i forgot about the blood work and then i ate already this morning so that's gonna come out all junky but then he hands me the cup he goes go into the bathroom

drop it off at the window what a mortified i mean it just feels so unnatural to pee inside a cup and then to be confronted with like yeah you can smell your pit you smell your piss guaranteed if you're peeing into a cup if it's not a big old toilet bowl or a squatter thing if you're in parts of europe or asia thank god you don't have to smell your own urine but if it's in a cup 15 smell it you got to screw the lid on you got to make sure the tape's on right it's this whole to do that you're being and you're like you have urine molecules all over your little fingers and nails and cuticles that you're like wait this ruined my whole day i feel unclean i feel like i feel like a leper in my own piss and that's one minute well it's all for your own good bone it's so your doctor can take care of you. You need to get over this. Well, no, but I'm just saying, like, the act of peeing in a cup

really, really demoralizing. You feel it's demoralizing, dehumanizing, and degrading? Yes, all three. All the Ds. See, I get it. Do you ever feel concerned that you're going to, like, miss

or pee too much or that you're gonna be that asshole that's simply that asshole that gives them way too much pee in the cup and they say well we only needed a little yeah always i pee above the label i pee above the decal the sticker oh my god is it a line yeah well there's like a suggestion there wasn't a lot there wasn't a line on this one i believe me i looked well also it's you know what's humiliating is when you of course are the jerk who has like bright yellow piss and you're like okay not the hydration king tonight no yeah 100 100 right you always get it on your hand and always all over the cup it's different for you ladies yeah but it's like do they i feel for them that they have to hold it the whole thing

is so sad they're so used to it let me say something about nurses and doctors they've seen so much worse yeah i'm actually going to be vulnerable right now and this may get cut i i will be vulnerable too and it will get cut because it's disgusting but you go first. Suffice it to say that during my surgery that I just had, I, you're not supposed to eat

or drink for like 10 hours before. So, I didn't do that but woke up in the morning and like couldn't really go to the bathroom like either way. So, I get to the,

I get to like my surgery and I'm like, I haven't eaten but I also haven't gone to the bathroom and like whatever and they were like oh it's not a big deal and i was like so should i keep my underwear on during the surgery or like because i because it's my nose like i don't need to have my underwear off wait and they're like yeah keep your underwear on woke up from the surgery underwear was nowhere to be found and i didn't have to go to the bathroom anymore so i was like excuse me like knock knock knock um where's my underwear and they were like oh we had to take it off and i was like what and they were like yeah and um we just it's no big deal but we

had to give you a catheter because you were full of piss i was like oh full of piss got it i know i shit myself during that surgery i know it i know 100 i know 100 that they were like doing surgery on me and they said he's full of shit we got to get this out of there and they i i know for a fact because i didn't shit for like four days after the surgery either so i know for a fact oh my god i know for a fact because i didn't shit for like four days after the surgery either so i know for a fact oh my god i know for a fact they took it all from me and also when they told me they put that catheter in they did not lie because it was burning when i was peeing for about two days after and that was also not a good feeling surgery don't recommend it only if you have two people and remember i did i'm so sorry but it's so that's when I say like these people have seen way worse than like them getting a little bit of pee pee

on their finger like please these people have their hands up your ass amazing people amazing people amazing heroes amazing heroes have their hands up your ass and it's rule of culture number 102 amazing heroes

have their hands up your ass can i share something and this will definitely get cut because it's actually so bad if we keep in what i said it has to we have to keep in what you say so share your own risk and i feel you should lately lately i've like felt a little bit of pain when I get fucked. And so then I go, my prostate's enlarged. I have a huge prostate. I have a humongous prostate. And so I go into the doctor today.

Do you know that for a fact? Well, no. Here, I'm convinced of this. Oh, this is something you're surmising about yourself. Yes, I'm convinced of this. And I go to the doctor today and i tell trevor i go also first name basis we love well he's yeah trevor we love him um i go you know trevor i think um lately when my prostate's been stimulated there's been this stinging pain and i wonder if i wonder

if i have an enlarged prostate and he goes hmm it doesn't sound like that sounds like more of a fissure but we'll check and i was like oh okay and he starts putting on the gloves and and and gives me an examination uh-huh and then i when i go go to pee in this cup later on. Yeah. I realize that I had not done a great job wiping. Oh my God. Oh my God. This just,

this happened to me too, where I had to have like a physical and they went up there and like, I was like, oh no, I didn't prep for this. I thought I was going to be like,

we're going to, we're going to go in for a scan. Here's a referral for like a place to do like a scan which i was like ready to pony up money for but like i'm so sorry this is so this is so disgusting and i and this is and okay no it's a human life and we're de-stigmatizing we're de-stigmatizing going to the doctor and poopy butt because it happens to everyone actually here's breaking news what comes out of your asshole is poop yeah it's a rule of culture number 30 breaking news what comes out of your asshole is poop no i was gonna say sometimes it doesn't even happen at the doctor sometimes

you're having sex and you realize that later you get you it can happen i know i know i know you get the shit dick delink you a hundred percent i mean like this this is something that you just especially having gay sex if there's if that happens a little bit like no one cares and here's the thing if you do care you actually suck because because I don't know what gay porn fantasy you're living where no shit happens ever. But yeah, you do your best to clean yourself out

and any type of sex, you do your best to make sure it's a sanitary area and then give it up to God who's watching. Who's watching. Okay. Molly, did you have any thoughts on this well i just hate but why like why are we still embarrassed of that like that and periods it's like that happens yes yes periods are how we have children the shit is how we get our shit out like

let's get over it but it's still like oh no oh good god doctor and it's like oh yeah of course that's what i'm saying though it's like i just just knowing that like it's no doctor cares about a little bit of piss on their fingers because it soared because of what happened in the cup they're not i guarantee they don't even it goes in one ear out the other i want to say trevor had a little quiver to his voice after the exam. And I thought, he's embarrassed for me. He's embarrassed for me. No, I don't think so.

Bowen, did you go like, sorry about that, Trevor? Or did you not talk about it? He didn't know. I did not talk about it. I did not talk about it. That's a good point. And he's gonna forget about it. No, he's not.

Yes, he is i wouldn't bring the energy back in with you when you go see him next like hey i want to talk about my last anal examination i think you might have dealt with some poop he'll be like yeah you fucking idiot so you think the next time bowen's at the desk on weekend update trevor's gonna be like, oh yeah! Oh yeah! That's the guy with the shitty ass. That's my shit-ass patient. That's my shit-ass patient. By the way, he was like, it's a fissure. I was like,

okay, well. Oh, well, that's okay. Fissures happen. They really happen. They really happen. He was just like, just let it heal. Just like, take it easy. I'm like, can do. Well,

first of all, congratulations on getting fucked lately. What the hell? You didn't tell me this. It's no, it's not worth getting into. Well, right.

Fine. Bitch. I'm being Molly right now. I don't want to talk about it. And you have to respect that. Bitch. I think she's a bitch too. I think you're a bitch. Well, I think it it's time for to turn to our guests yeah molly will have

you go first if that's okay wow this is gonna be a moment in time yes i know you have i know you've been thinking of one i'm i'm nervous so i'm going with one that's kind of a little like not great but we're going we're going No, no, no, no, no. Don't rate it just yet. No, no, no. This is Molly Gordon's I Don't Think So, Honey. Her time starts now. I Don't Think So, Honey, My Calvins. Oh!

The commercials are always I sit in my Calvins. I live in my Calvins. I lounge in my Calvins. I work out in my Calvins. Bitch, I cannot fit in my Calvins. I have low hanging breasts and a big ass i have no idea what fucking size i am i wear small it's too small i wear a large it's like i'm wearing a medium i take one step and my breast falls out i can't speak on it my calvins i can't do anything the commercials are all women of all different sizes 30 seconds they are lies they are gluing the fabric to the women's

bodies because i don't know i cannot wear them i can't wear a bralette i can't wear a little little piece of underwear i know it's so mean and it makes me feel bad about myself no you can only do a couple things in your in your calvins which is just sit and do nothing i think they're messaging completely off and it really hurts my feelings. And I think they really need to tell them, I don't think so, honey. My palpations. Wow.

And that's one minute. That's powerful. You know, sizing in this country is all off. And can I say something? I almost did I don't think so, honey, when things quote unquote run small. What the fuck does that mean? So how big does the thing I have to order then?

Because I have people being like, it runs small. And I'm like, well, I ordin change the label yeah if it's a if i need to order a large you need to let me know now because sometimes they i have to order a small so it's just like what the hell also they have a whole thing about we fit everyone we you can do anything in your calvins it's always like kendall jenner and a normal woman like running and it's like i can't do anything i go to bloomingdale's and i'm like this is so i'm actually shaking i'm so embarrassed what they have a whole thing about is lies

that's what they have a whole thing about is lies. Lies. That's what they have a whole thing about. They can lie in their Calvins. Well, it's confusing because like my friend Anthony Ramos just is now like the new Calvin Klein guy. Oh, we know he is. Iconically. We know. He looks amazing.

I support him. I support the brand. I just have a problem with the hashtag my Calvins. You can do anything with your Calvins. That's what I have a problem. Well, here's the thing is it's like also like you buy the underwear and it's like, I'm not Anthony Ramos, am I? But I like my Calvins.

But I love my Calvins too. Like I do like my Calvins. But can you do anything in them? No. I don't think you could teach children. You can't teach children in your Calvin. Can you have an anal fissure in your Calvin? I'm not so sure.

I don't think so. There are things that you can do in your Calvin. You're right. Absolutely. I think it's more of the bralettes, which Rachel can speak on, that are problematic. No, you need to have... I just think it's like, don't try to... There's a day bralette.

There's a lie down bralette. But it's like... Oh't try to, there's a day bralette, there's a lie down bralette, but it's like, you know what I mean? It's like, anything you're talking about a sports bra, that's anything, you know what I mean? Yeah, got it. Is there a brand that we do like? I like cup bras, which are always kind of talked about on Instagram. I've been enjoying them.

Beanie, Belkin, and I both have a very large, low hanging breast. And there's a woman on the East side, the Upper East side. It's called Linda, the bra lady in New York. And they fit you personally there. And they're very ugly bras,

but boy, do you get support. And I, there you go. Okay. What is an ugly bra or a pretty bra? I don't, I don't, I, no one's clocking it i'm

not me at least i'm like i don't care what the bra looks like well bowen you're homosexual i don't know no well i think i think like a you mean like a very like it's like utilitarian the bra is there to support you versus i just, as I was showing you and Geraldine on FaceTime earlier today, my Savage Fenty bra, that's for sex. Do you have a Savage Fenty bra? Do you want to see it? Yeah, I really do. She's going to pull it out. Geraldine is staying with me

right now and she has been wearing Savage Fenty and she looks unbelievable. That's gorgeous, Rachel. That color, I fucking love. So it's lace and it's got a scala. That's stunning. wait geraldine is staying with you right now what is it just talented actress central over there i was gonna say cool la girls just on facetime okay i want to be a part of that like what the hell i respect the circle that's i love that i was just thinking about her today i was like that geraldine

a fucking talent she's wrapped on um we got to get her on because i watched blockers the other day for like the eighth time and i'm like jesus christ and also another thing i watched that she was also really good and was bad education have you guys seen bad education oh my god bowen it's with hugh jackman and allison janney it's about a high school in um a long island which by the way this is the high school that am Amanda Sheckman went to, Roslyn High School. It's about a scandal about mismanaging money there. It's insane where it goes. Geraldine is in it. She plays a student who

cracks the case. It's unbelievable. But yeah. That's someone who can act, who can dial the whisper or the loudness, the volume perfectly. Talent. and like you said normal wonderful yeah amazing person wait and also speaking of talent um is beans shooting monica lewinsky right now yeah wow oh my god i've been waiting for that forever yeah that's gonna be

good that's look at her she's smirking and shaking her head and being like you don't even know how good it's going to be. She is smirking and now she's laughing. Her shoulders are shaking a little bit. The bras that she'll wear. The bras that she'll wear. The bras that she'll be wearing. I love that we had this bra discourse.

I'm learning. Okay. Learning, growing every day. Alright, so now is going to be the time when we turn to rachel senate and here's the thing she has done i don't think so i believe several times several and one of them was a point of despair but this is the return to the form this is the return to the form i'm ready okay you time you timer this time okay this is a return to the form i'm ready okay you time you timer this time okay this is rachel's i don't think so honey her time starts now i don't think so honey me not being able to poop at my boyfriend's house oh wow i cannot do it it has been six months i love him he loves me he gives me my space i can not do it i don't think so so, honey. Every time I can't poop, I can't poop the next day.

And then I can't poop the next day. Once you can't poop, you can't poop. And it fucks up your whole schedule. I literally have gone down spirals of different food things. I've tried pills. Molly gave me a pill. 30 seconds. Nothing works.

It is a mental thing. His bathroom isn't even near his room. He offers to go on walks it doesn't matter i cannot i don't know why sometimes he will say it's okay if you poop right now i'm gonna watch a show i can't do it it fucks up everything once you can't poop you can't think your day is ruined i it mentally fucks with you it's very hard i don't think so honey me not being able to live in my boyfriend's house honestly that's one minute and that's real and it's raw and it's real it's it's it's it's actually interesting like i have that disease where it's like when i'm in a

relationship like i'm like one of those sick crazy like what do you mean i don't poop people like i just i am like that still. So I hope no one that wants to date me listens to this podcast. But I have to tell you, I don't think it's going to go away. No, no, no, no, no. I don't know. I've never been able to be like fecal

around men I'm having sex with. I just can't be fecal. I think maybe way around this is like bringing a hypnotist into the home. Uh-huh. Oh my God like bringing a hypnotist into the home uh huh into the bathroom into the bathroom literally just like doing

just outside so that it just like you can do it I'm sure you've tried it all well this is the thing is I've tried to bridge the boundary of talking about it. In the past, I've made the mistake of hiding the problem.

But then we went on a, on like a trip to a cabin and there was like a thing where we were like ordering food. And then I had a freak out and I was like, if I can't poop, my whole thing is like ruined. And then I'm like, okay, like I'm trying to like figure it out and so then he would go on walks because i was like it's one thing if i go stay over yours and then i go home the next day and then i find a time to poop but if i'm with you for three days in the cabin three days i'm not shitting no it's like backing up also i'm wearing a bathing suit and i'm trying to have sex yeah so it was really hard molly gave me a pill and it worked a little but what happens sometimes is i have a little poop yeah okay and that's but which which is so cruel because you're like i know there's more in there yeah and that's when you're like i know

that i i know this is not the real truth of my age. No, it's literally okay to quote bone's character tip of the iceberg. It is. It literally is. You're like, it's a little worse because you're like, I know how much I'm capable of. And this is not that. Yeah.

It's also the thing is, is that when you have to shit, you have to go right then. Yeah. When you're dating someone, you're like, Oh, I'll go in in an hour and that's your first mistake whatever the fuck you're doing you're leaving in that moment you're yeah it doesn't work like that you know what though i think this is because as gay men we have to be extra thoughtful about that like i usually like you have to

consciously take care of it you really like like, like beforehand, like really clear, clear it from your mind by just like really going for it before you leave the house. Now you, so you were saying that the cabin trip broke the seal on the, on the conversation. Well, cause I had basically a breakdown. I can't stop having breakdowns.

Anytime I express the way I'm feeling, I call it a breakdown. Yes. Come on. But it was because it was like, I was, I was like, I was just, I felt like uncomfortable in my body.

Oh, right. I hate that. Because it does fuck you up. And then you can't tell if you're hungry or not. Because you're full. And it just like, and then you're thinking about it. Once you or not because you roll and it just like throw and then you're thinking about it. Once you start thinking about it, it's over.

You're not going for like a week. So then we started having the conversation and so then he would go on walks while I was trying to poop. Nope. It's like, and that's actually never going to work because then you think like, oh, this is my time to shit now. And whenever you start overthinking something, it's like it's like and that's actually never gonna work because then you think like oh this

is my time to shit now no whenever you start overthinking something it's like when you're having like it's like when you're dating someone and the sex starts to get bad and then you have a conversation about it it's never gonna be sexy again like or it's gonna be real work for it to get the layer there's a new layer on it of like awareness or something or acknowledgement but rachel do you remember have you do you remember times when he's gone to poop and what you were doing i don't think i've literally ever noticed i think he's a quick ignorance is bliss there i think quick pooper would it help if you watched him poop oh one time like in person yes you wouldn't like that yeah

actually maybe i don't know molly do you think that we could do that i think bowen is on to something kind of miraculous yes i think that would be really interesting you should be in the room with him just for a little bit no just for a little bit you're forgetting about the smell factor of it you don't want to hear can i tell you something you do not want to hear the sound of shit leaving your boyfriend's bowels you don't want to hear it you think and even entertain it because it's disgusting it's one of the most offensive sounds famously in the world i almost feel like maybe i'm just really like in love with him i actually feel like he poops really clean like

then great Doug is laughing this is what I feel I think even for a and I'm talking about a walk by we don't have to walk into it's like oh you're shitting I'm clocking it I've clocked it it's metabolizing in my body and I'm walking

on no there should be nothing intentional when it comes to you in relation to other people's shitting no no no no no but this is this is what i hope happens is that rachel is in the room with logan while he poops and then how's he gonna feel about this hold on hold on let me finish and then it's like and then hopefully rachel thinks well i can return i can i can just sort of beset us in some equivalent it's not it's not pressure for her to poop it's that she feels comfortable enough to like provide in some way by like meeting her boyfriend meeting logan where he's at by also being like well now i can i can sort of let the valve loose yeah like knowing it's almost like confronting the demon head on he's yeah we've

seen each other pee before well that's just like of course yeah it's totally different one time he had to help me take a shower after i was injured so i feel like we're um and molly was there for that too not the in not the shower but the right but the injury but so i feel like we could cross that yeah i think it's on it's you're on your way there you're you're sort of chiseling towards it you're right you are you're chiseling towards it and part of get getting into a more serious relationship is you start to see some gross shit like and that is that is really a make or break like I remember like when I moved in with my first boyfriend like we started to see

some gross shit here and there like and then one time I had like long story short he had to look up close at my butthole one time and I was like this is insane like this is what a relationship is just like beautiful watching what a relationship is just like watching each other like

get truly disgusting like I couldn't really you think that romance is beautiful and then you realize it's disgusting and sex is so disgusting sex is so gross and it's insane that we do it

but we do it sex is so gross and it's insane now we do it but we do it sex is but we do it being nasty sex is the most disgusting thing that you could ever think of and think about the way you act during it i know animal and like like sometimes you're just like the sounds the smells the feelings it's just it's so disgusting and it's so weird that we do it but we love it and we're not gonna stop i'm certainly so horny right now from after my procedure i haven't been able to do anything and i'm like raring to go oh my god i want to get filthy like it's it's like so bad i feel like sex is all about suspension of disbelief yes yeah because you really just have to especially if you're doing like prop sex or like act out sex which i love

you really have to like and you honestly you you and your you have to be giving with each other because someone's gonna say a line that's not good. And I used it as a problem of if I was having sex with someone in, like, in a setup and they did it wrong, I would be like, cut. We're back. He has to start, like, do you know what I mean? Like, no, you come in and you say this. And then it's like, obviously, that's stressful. I've never done full-on role play i've definitely done like we wear some cool some interesting things but like i've never done full-on role play

like wearing what i don't know just like you know you spiced it up with like jock straps or whatever like maybe like a hat or something i feel like costume you're a hat okay no like i don't know like one time after halloween it got fun like i remember one time i don't know if we had sex this night but me and my ex were dressed up as malfoy and harry potter my god and i think there was like at least some hand jobs happening afterwards but anyway and then last two two halloweens ago i was in i was a nerd and my boyfriend was a baseball player i think that might have gotten

that's like built yeah that's built but we got into a fight that night actually molly's like i saved my acting for the silver screen you know what we all have our places where we play i'm just quiet but we don't know we don't know yeah i'm not sharing this either we all have our whisper acting we all place it in

yes yes yeah do you do you go and do you do it like cue cards when you're sexy i i it is sort of like cue cards where it's like, okay, tell me where to go. Like, in the moment. I'm like, tell me what to... I know. This is...

I've said this too many times during sex in recent memory. I'll go, how do you want me? No! Like, how do you want... So bone is not a top. How do you want me?

I love that. Anyway. I actually think it looks really hot. I do too. Yeah. How do you want me? That's accommodating. I'm going to try it, actually.

You should try it. No, no, no, no. Don't let it ruin anything. Do they have any Fenty stuff for boys do they have what stuff for boys Fenty stuff for boys I guess Hans just immediately said yes my wife works there

the way that Hans immediately I asked the question and Hans immediately said yes like as if he had like a whole yeah the timing was a little suspicious. But that's great. He has the smoking jacket.

It's funny for us to ask that question. Because Rachel does have a paid partnership with them. You do? I'm so gullible. I fully believed it. I believe that for you 100%. That would be a goal, a personal goal.

But I'm not there yet. I think that for you. A hundred percent. That's a goal. That would be a goal, a personal goal, but I'm not there yet. Love that. I think that's a personal goal for us all. And I'm going to put that out into the atmosphere. Yeah. And something that we're also putting out into the atmosphere is this fucking incredible episode. Oh my gosh.

This, this, this, this is top shelf app. This is top shelf app with top shelf talent and top shelf guests. You guys, thank you so much for coming and doing the show. Thank you so much. For having us.

Yeah. I love that we were both. I know. I love that we both ended up lying down in our beds. It's really, it's now, I feel like we just put you guys to bed. Like you guys have, at least you started sort of sitting upright and now you're both like lounging and feeling it. We both had a glass of wine.

We had a combo. We're lying down. What wines did you both drink so the readers can know about your lifestyles? I clocked a Sancerre or a Pinot Grigio from Molly. What is that? We're going with a Pinot Grigio. Love it.

Rachel feels mixed on hers, right? Mine was a Chardonnay. It was butter yeah i was gonna say buttery it was very like it was really yellow in a way where i was kind of almost like it was like very bright where it almost felt i don't know i got it from a weird like drugstore. You're scared it was piss, right? I was afraid it was pee. It looked like pee, but I drank it. Well, pee is sterile.

You'll love it. Pee is sterile. You'll love it. It's got electrolytes. Well, this is another ep of Las Culturistas. Please watch Shiver Baby. We were going to say, if you haven't watched every baby in select theaters or on demand you absolutely must i saw i i googled it and saw it is it is

out there in theaters if you want to go brave brave the storm that is covid still uh you can go to see it or watch from the comfort and safety of your own hopefully COVID free home but we never can know any final words from the ladies do you have any final words I'm just so lucky to be in the presence of you both

thank you for having me we love you guys and I am gonna watch my boyfriend poop I will I think I'm gonna see the drive vibe

or the quick what Molly said the in out the in out the in out yeah come on and so

does that remind us of a song to sort of get us out Bowen what do you think yeah it seems like you have a song

ready to go yeah what's that song where it's like you stick it in the middle then you stick it all out it's like you have a song ready to go yeah what's that song um where it's like you stick it in the middle then you stick it all out it's like a party song it's like a block party song it's like um and then you shake it all about you do the hokey i guess it's called hokey pokey you know you know you know this it's where it's like you stick your hand in and it's like a three count and then you stick your right hand in stick your right hand in

do do do stick your right hand out put your right hand in put your right hand out put your right hand in and you shake it all about you do the hokey pokey hokey pokey is a hit

that's what it's all about the way that the singer has to confidently sort of go you do the hokey pokey and you know what i mean like it's good the singer the singer oh my god bye bye i'm nk and this is basket case what is wrong me? A show about the ways that mental illness is shaped by not just biology. Swaps of different meds. But by culture and society. By looking closely at the conditions that cause mental distress,

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