Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "The Plot of The Bible" (w/ Marcia Belsky)

Episode Date: April 11, 2018

Have you ever wanted to learn the plot of The Bible? Have you ever wondered who the main characters were? Or how it begins? Or how it ends? Well today's your lucky day because Matt & Bowen know th...e plot of The Bible and will (finally!!) tell you, alongside special guest, comedian and "noted guys gal" MARCIA BELSKY!But they don't JUST discuss the plot of The Bible...oh no, that's just one little part...they also get into Marcia's touring comedy musical, "Handmaid's Tale: The Musical," the harsh truth that she sees Hamilton OFTEN, Cruel Intentions the musical, buying VHS bootlegs of broadway shows from chatrooms when the internet was still a baby, Jesus Christ Superstar, Love Simon, The Progressive Country Music Movement, and the explosive power of "You Can't Stop The Beat" from Hairspray. Plus, the second installment of LC's new segment, Voice MemOH You Bitch!" featuring Pat Regan.---LAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASTforeverdogpodcasts.com/las-culturistas  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:21 Goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. Well, I'm excited for a variety of reasons. I'm excited for a litany of reasons. Oh, another word for variety? Litany. I am so, so, so, so excited for our guest. For our guest?
Starting point is 00:02:40 Yes. I'm just going right into it. No, you really are. But I was going to say, we also should just say say Real Housewives of New York is back as of tonight. Right. It won't be. It'll already be out, listeners, for your time. But we'll have enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:02:52 We'll have enjoyed it. And I hear, I mean, this season's going to have a lot. Luann is now last in the intro credits, which means it's going to be like Luann's season. Because it's always been Bethany. Right. She always is the one that closes it out. Like the superstar, I feel like,
Starting point is 00:03:07 always closes out the opening intro with the taglines. And it's Lu. But what about the arrangement? Like the tableau? Is Lu in the middle? Because Lu's been on the outside. No, no, no. She is not in the center.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Bethany is in the center. But I think it's a height thing. And also a salary thing. Well, all right. I want to get into this with our guest. But it's Lu's season. Okay, great. Later on, if it comes up. Well, all right. I want to get into this with our guest. But it's a loose season. Okay, great. Later on, if it comes up.
Starting point is 00:03:26 If it comes up. Our guest is truly like someone we've been wanting to get on the show for ages. And she's one of my favorite people. We actually saw this person perform. And we were standing in the back of Union Hall. And Bowen hits my arm and goes, Las Culturistas. And points to the stage.
Starting point is 00:03:41 This was like a year and a half ago. And this was like a long time ago. And I was like, oh yeah, 100%. 100%. Oh my God. Truly one of my favorite people. We just, we spent a night a couple months ago just at Sam Taggart's house, played Quiplash.
Starting point is 00:03:55 It was the funnest, funniest time in the world. Oh my God. I want to do that so bad. We got to do it soon. And that's all I did this weekend in the mountains. Okay, great. Let's go to the credits. They played games on television. They played games on TV. Okay. Let's go to the credits. They played games on television.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Playing games on TV. Okay, let's go to the credits, bitch. Come on, give me the credits. She is the co-host of Miss Andrea with Martian DeRay, an amazing podcast. You know Ray Sani. And you know Ray Sani. And oh my God, she's working on so much cool stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Yeah. She's hosting Reductress Live at Caroline's on Broadway, April 26th through the 28th. Tickets are on sale now. Get those. Love it. And she's also leading this amazing media campaign, Headless Women of Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:04:32 So check that out. It's making this great comeback because she got this started like a couple years ago and it's still brilliant. But now to see it resurge is really, really wonderful. And she's taking her hit musical with Melissa Stokowski, Handmaid's Tale, the musical. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:49 On tour on the road. And it's sold out the Bell House multiple times. This is a hit. And she's taking it. It's a hit, babe. She's taking it to Philly and other cities, mama. There's a hit on her hands. There's a hit on her hands.
Starting point is 00:05:00 And her name is Marsha Belsky. Wow. Oh, my God. How do your hands feel? My hands feel so good. They feel tired, you know. With them carrying the hits. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:11 The weight of the hits. It's a hit. I love that. I love how that sounds, you know. It just feels so good. To say I have a hit. Swirl it around in my mouth. It's a fucking pull quote for you.
Starting point is 00:05:20 It's a hit, yeah. You can say, it's a hit, Las Culturistas. It's a hit, yeah. Oh my God, I'm gonna put my god i'm gonna put that i'm gonna put that in the trailer you have to include us yeah fucking i heard such amazing things about the show at the bell house it was really a dream come true it was cool it was you know bell house holds like 350 yep and it sold out and it was just like incredible because we did two shows at union hall and they were great but we changed the
Starting point is 00:05:45 show a lot between the first two that were kind of like workshops and then what we ended up doing at the bell house and it was just really really cool so now um we took a little break and then now we're coming back and we have a show may 10th at caveat and then after that we're doing this little mini tour where um we still have to set up our DC show, but we're going to be in Philly at the Philomoka. Philomoka? Yeah. That's a cool venue. On, that is June 16th.
Starting point is 00:06:12 It's a Saturday at 7.30 p.m. And then we're also going to be at the Bell House again at the end of June. Oh, my God. So that'll be really cool. I'm excited. And listen to her just rattle off those dates off the top of her head this is a media savvy media trained media trained person honestly though like the the handmaid's tale the musical okay so did this come from being a huge fan of the show it was a lot of things i
Starting point is 00:06:39 mean for those of you who don't know i am a guy guy's gal. Noted guy's gal. Yes, noted guy's gal. I've been telling people I've actually never spoken to another woman in my life. But I'm trying to this year. This is a big push for me. Yeah, 2018. Year of the women. 2018 is the year where I make a female friend. But I, you know, so feminism has been a part of my act.
Starting point is 00:07:00 And I've also, you know, was obsessed with musical theater and still am. And so it's always been my dream to write this sort of, you know was obsessed with musical theater and still am and so it's always been my dream to write this sort of you know a comedy musical like I love the Book of Mormon and Avenue Q and I'm such a cheese ball for just like the funny parts in a serious musical yes yes like whenever King George comes out in Hamilton I'm the one who's like yeah the physical comedy overwhelms you I I'm like, this is so funny. You see Hamilton all the time. I know.
Starting point is 00:07:28 When I do see Hamilton often, I always laugh at the King George part. It just tickles me. 800 bucks is a ticket. Yeah. She's playing on a Spotify at home and pretending she's seeing it live. And she's like, oh, my God. I'm like, Jonathan, be quiet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:43 But yeah, so me and Melissa were working on this Fiddler on the Roof musical parody, which we're still going to do, but it's about the L shutdown, where Tevye lives in Williamsburg, and he's forced with his family that lives above a Buffalo Exchange to move to Astoria. I love that. Hardship. Hardship. It's hard for them.
Starting point is 00:08:04 It's not easy. And he wants to be a scientologist so we have like i would be a scientologist like leah rhyman i know i know um so we started writing that but then they pushed the l train shutdown back so we were like we really wanted to time it sort of like right when it was happening but that buys you time but it buys us time and we wanted to do something. And so I read the book Handmaid's Tale and we were watching the show together.
Starting point is 00:08:29 And we had been joking about how everything becomes a musical and how that entertains me. Like, I'm sorry, but it will never get old to me. People will be like, no, like the SpongeBob musical is actually really good. I knew you'd bring that up. And it's like, I'm sure it is, but it's still like, it exists.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Oh my God, I've been telling this story because winter is now in its eighth month. And me and my father and my mom saw Groundhog's Day, the musical. Oh, how was that? My dad was like, my poor dad was so excited. He's like, excellent reviews. It got excellent reviews.
Starting point is 00:09:04 It's going to be a great show so we get there and like it was fun like it was really like you know it was a good show but this woman in front of us my mom leaves it's intermission every time me and my dad are at the theater someone talks to us i don't know what it is about me and my dad together people are like the talk show's here let's get it going approachable yeah approachable jews so they like this woman in front of us is this southern woman and she's like i am so confused y'all what is like going on i don't is he so it's repeating and my dad my dad goes my dad goes have you seen the movie and she goes there's a movie and so i said 20 years of winter 20 years of winter and so she was the actual groundhog she
Starting point is 00:09:49 was the groundhog in that situation and if she doesn't if she doesn't know if groundhog's day is a movie or a musical we have 20 years of winter that's like a very interesting question though it's like you'd have to really spell spell out extra that was happening if you weren't getting it so it's like for today's audiences, how dumb does shit exactly have to be? It has to be so dumb. And with our show, some people hadn't seen the show and they saw the
Starting point is 00:10:13 musical and they said that they could kind of get it because we parody the plot but also we make this whole plot because we're parodying musical theater in general like Offred is June and she moves to New york to become a barista and is pursuing her dreams and all this stuff and then just winds up a handmade and as you do and um but yeah like these other shows that you see like i mean first of all how
Starting point is 00:10:38 many people had to die just so they could make spider-man into like two people i think died two full human beings died so that some billionaire could be like we're sticking with it we're sticking with it it's really insane and the reviews you hear of it are just devastating of spider-man like that no one enjoyed it spider-man yeah you know what i did enjoy though you know uh off broadway production that i saw mad at oh my gosh wait yes let's get into this. Cruel Intentions the Musical. Cruel Intentions the Musical.
Starting point is 00:11:07 We saw it because Amanda Schechtman, who's been on the show, was incredible, played Catherine, which is the Sarah Michelle Gellar role, and slayed it. She was unbelievable. She is truly effortless.
Starting point is 00:11:18 She's the best. She makes it look so easy while she's hitting the most intense notes. The songs were insane. It was a 90s jukebox musical, but they took everything up into this musical theater style sort of. I'm the Only One
Starting point is 00:11:33 by Melissa Etheridge. They made it this moment, which starts off the show in her character, and I'm like, this is fucking good. It was good. It's a whole moment at the end. Just picturing her saying I'm the only one to like this gigantic musical like whatever like yeah it was at le poisson rouge oh great so it was like kind of like cabaret style but still theater it was so interesting so i went with drew anderson our friend we know him we love him
Starting point is 00:11:59 friend we know we love him and we like got groupons so whenever me and jew go like drew go out together we are like 90 year old jews out of the retirement home just like and drew more so than me like if we order takeout like and our food is three minutes late drew's like i'm calling him i love going out with him because he just like suffers no nonsense and like so we were there and as soon as we walk in so we bought bar tickets so we like assume that we're going to get like a stool or whatever but I don't really care we walk in and
Starting point is 00:12:32 Drew's like you know if it was standing room I just think it should have said standing room on the ticket so we're like standing you're giving him an accent and an affect that's how I impersonate him to him I love it he'll say something completely normal and I'll say it back to him um but so we're
Starting point is 00:12:48 like standing there and first of all we can't stop talking about the lead guys but oh my god it's insane I mean this guy's ass was like it was like two tree trunks oh my god it was crazy it was crazy that was so close
Starting point is 00:13:03 that was close to a big fat that was close to this age so me and drew were just trying to see like we're just like peeking like but you couldn't tell but we're like he's like so close to this age and the people like come out on this um what's it called it's like a little like a bomb like a bomb sort of what a bomb a bomb or like an aisle that's like you know it's like a raised little platform she can walk out to. A vom. You know, like the Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears catwalk.
Starting point is 00:13:28 That's what it's called. Catwalk, like a raised catwalk. Catwalk. So they like walk out and it's like, so then Drew goes, Drew whispers to me, he's like, I can't stop staring at that guy's ass. And like, I look up and his butt is like right there. And I was like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Yeah. It was a shock. Sorry to objectify him. He was great too that's what literally the whole thing was about it's literally about his ass it's this moment it's this like thing like cause in the movie
Starting point is 00:13:53 there's a reveal of Ryan Phillippe's butt and like seducing Reese Witherspoon it is like an iconic part of the movie oh my god I forgot that he like fully got naked on the stage at one point that's what I'm referring to is like I mean yes it was distracting the whole time and me and drew had slightly um we had slightly obscured vision so we're like ducking around the pole to like try and see his ass like but that's what they make you do that wasn't that wasn't our animal instinct
Starting point is 00:14:20 or anything no and so then we had this like thing happen where at intermission this guy comes up and we've been standing and i guess the the seated tickets were like pretty expensive and me and drew paid like 35 on groupon so i get why the bar staff was kind of like they were being nice to us but we were the only people standing at the bar i kept feeling like they were like what so finally like this guy is like we have two extra seats at our table you know just just sit down with us and we sit down and then like as soon as drew sits down they're like wristbands like you can't sit here and but this bartender told me a million times like she was like that guy was aggressive towards us and we almost kicked him out and i was like
Starting point is 00:14:59 okay well he was really nice to us so i I don't really know. So then they take away our seats that we had just gotten. And me and Drew are bitching so much. We're like, wow, I don't see why they had to do that. But I'm still being nicer and everything. So then she gets us these stools. And she's like, you know, I talked to my boss. And here are some stools. And we feel bad.
Starting point is 00:15:19 So go ahead and sit down. We're like, thanks. That's really nice. And then Drew moves his stool literally an inch because she sat us right behind a pole. He moves his stool an inch to the left
Starting point is 00:15:29 and she's like, sir, sir, we have stools only in the designated area and if you are going to move the stool, unfortunately, the privilege
Starting point is 00:15:35 will be taken away. So serious. Oh my God. Staff of the Poisson Rouge. I know. I don't think so. Everyone was really nice Like and the show
Starting point is 00:15:46 Was like great But it was so funny Because just our faces We were just like Okay Oh my god You That's amazing
Starting point is 00:15:54 Even honestly I don't know if Amanda's Gonna be on anymore Amanda's swinging in the show Right But you should try to go I'll figure it out I'll figure it out
Starting point is 00:16:00 It's over soon I know I know Well did you go to like Just see it like Or did you Yeah I was wondering Were you go to like just see it like or did you did you want to go i was wondering were you there because of this inspiration of like the with with your show the way that these adaptations are being made i love i mean any like musical thing like that i'll go see it like i love i always love it and if it's bad i love it too because i love bad
Starting point is 00:16:19 theater yeah so much yeah so like yeah drew like i've been talking to drew about how i wanted to go and then he was like oh let's just get a group on and go and then we just did and then he told me that amanda was gonna be on it and then we saw you there and it was so fun have you seen the movie cruel intentions like you're a fan i just re-watched it after i saw the musical because i was like there's so much i didn't remember like i'm a moron because i didn't even remember that like spoiler alert turn it off if you haven't seen the movie. I didn't even remember that Ryan Phillippine's character dies. He dies, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:50 So I was genuinely surprised. I'm like, oh no. Yeah, he gets hit by a fucking car. It's a major part of the movie. So he's about to get hit by a car and he turns into the light and he goes, and I'd give up forever to touch you. Oh my God. Start singing that song.
Starting point is 00:17:05 And it's like, makes you cry. I love to the like football player and Ariana Grande's brother. Frankie Grande was in the show. Frankie Grande. Slayed it. And they sang Backstreet Boys and NSYNC. Yeah. And it was like so, so, that was another one of my musical theater moments.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I was like, that's so funny. It killed me too much. What did you think of Foolish Games being the big ballad? I loved it. Yeah. Oh, my God. The Foolish Games by Jewel. Jewel got $40.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I liked their choices in song because they did this good mix between, and re-watching the movie, it's all in the soundtrack. It's so good, except for they added the NSYNC and some stuff like that. Yeah, the super pop gum. But it was so, so, their choices a song because they had like Melissa Etheridge but then they also have like No Doubt and like you know they got yeah it was like cool songs it was a hit for me Breakfast at Tiffany's it was uh yeah that was a really good scene and the whole cast was like really good I mean like because I'm looking because it's like if there's one person who
Starting point is 00:18:02 can't sing when I first saw so my dad this my dad buys like theater tickets he like watches reviews so he bought us Hamilton tickets like right when the first good reviews came out so then by the time we saw the original cast and by the time we saw it we could have sold our tickets for like a billion dollars but we went me and my mom and my dad and Lin-Manuel was in it and I didn't know anything about the show because I wanted to be surprised I didn't listen to anything in the soundtrack I didn't even really read about all the hype and this is so mean you didn't like it? no no I loved it but I couldn't figure out how Lin-Manuel had gotten cast I didn't know
Starting point is 00:18:39 that he had written the show so I was like why I mean he's great like Lin-Manuel is unbelievably talented. But I was like, why is this guy is so much less? Like, I was like, is he the producer's like kid? Like, I couldn't figure it out. Oh, my gosh. I think he can cop to the fact that he's not like the best vocalist on the show.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Exactly. And that was when I got the idea. OK, if you're not talented enough to get on Broadway, write yourself into it. There you go, honey. So I wrote myself into Offred because also Lin-Manuel talked about how he didn't see any roles because I also would give him shit
Starting point is 00:19:14 for always putting himself in his shows. Sure, sure. Drew did the joke, you would have been Moana if you could have. He would have, he would have. He would have. But then he wrote about how he didn't see any good roles for latino men and so he was like there's nothing interesting or actually with
Starting point is 00:19:30 depth that i want to play so i have to write it or the most punk rock thing is to be like i'm gonna play this person who does not match my demographic at all exactly oh that's why we're doing all male fiddler reboot i'm tevye yeah. Yeah, I'm so excited. It's going to be so fun. So are you noticing things as you watch these like musical adaptations where it's like, oh yeah, like I could do that
Starting point is 00:19:52 like for Handmaids or is it something where it's like, oh, I should be doing this? Well, I mean, the thing was that I realized I was like, wow, we made it work on a budget
Starting point is 00:20:00 because they're a full musical. They pay their actors. They have a full band. We have a keyboard. And we still put they have a full band we have a keyboard and we still put on this small scale right now it feels big and also it will get bigger which is what's cool to think about that's what really like sitting in the audience at cruel intentions made me really excited and like geeked out because it i envisioned a full band playing for like the show that we wrote or like shows that we'll write in the future.
Starting point is 00:20:25 And it was like really exciting. Cause I mean, cause our accompanist wants that we have, we found this amazing woman, Fernanda Douglas. And like, I think we're kind of going to like grow with her, which is like an exciting partnership.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Cause she arranged the music and like, she's amazing. And then I found out halfway through working our show that she's 24 years old. And I was like, that's always like, what? I was like, what? Like she was she's 24 years old. And I was like, that's always like, what? I was like,
Starting point is 00:20:47 what? Like she was, she's incredible though. So it's like, we have this great partnership where I'm musically capable, but not like that. Yeah. So I'll like sing a tune,
Starting point is 00:20:56 maybe pluck out something a little bit, like be like that. And then she'll be like, I can't arrange it. Yeah. And, but she can make the sound that I'm like trying to like describe to her
Starting point is 00:21:06 like a toddler you know I'm like I'm thinking jazz you know so did you like the instruments that you could
Starting point is 00:21:14 that you do play and can play like did you teach yourself those um well I played piano growing up and I took lessons but I feel
Starting point is 00:21:23 it's interesting because I learned how to read music and play classical music. Oh you did. But I'm not that like that didn't teach me how to look at a keyboard and know what to do. I'm still struggling with that. I can read
Starting point is 00:21:36 music to a decent extent. I'm not great. I'm not like an accompanist level. One time I tried to accompany my choir in like 10th grade because I was like yeah I play piano and I was just like I can can't do this and you're like why the fuck did i say yes i mean they showed me the sheet music and there was like 10 notes and i was like what do i play i was so confused so i could play like you know sort of like moderate um classical piano but then it's been a whole unlearning process of just looking at the
Starting point is 00:22:06 keyboard as like a blank slate and and playing things and I just started learning guitar and that's been really fun too because I had this hang up with learning guitar where when I was like 19 I thought I was like too old to start learning guitar because you see all these people have been playing since they're like 12 I felt like that since i was like 12 me too yeah same it's like at 12 i felt like if i wasn't like a savant like you know it wasn't like gymnastics i don't know i can't surf and i'm 13 it's too late if i still can't do a backflip i'm probably not going to the olympics but so then um i i forget who i talked to honestly and i wish i remember because i owe them a lot of credit because they were like dan smith it was probably I owe them a lot of credit because they were like.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Dan Smith. It was probably Dan Smith. But I was like they were like, think about like this. When you meet someone who's been playing guitar since they were 12, when they're 22, you see them as amazing because they've been playing guitar for 10 years. It's not because they started when they were 12. So if you're 28 and you start playing guitar now, the time you're 38 you're gonna be just as good as that 22 year old and that's the only level because all i want to do is be able to play rhythm guitar with my i have a band free the mind yes free the mind um so that's been fun because
Starting point is 00:23:15 now i'm like really and it's so much more intuitive than i thought when i don't have these like hang-ups of just feeling like now i'm just excited to learn it as opposed to like feeling like I'm failing because I don't know how to just stare at it like because also we're all friends with those people too like one of my best friends from home is this guy John Langdon and I hate him because he can look at an instrument and learn
Starting point is 00:23:38 how to play it yeah two seconds fuck you John my cousin growing up was like that my cousin Michael like we were like merrily strolling along alongside each other in life. Merrily strolling. We were the same age. And all of a sudden, he could fucking rip it on the guitar. And I was like, how the fuck did you learn that?
Starting point is 00:23:54 We do all these things together. I never see you even playing. We do everything together. Where did you learn? We go to the park together. We go in the pool together. We're cousins. How can you explain this?
Starting point is 00:24:03 We're cousins. How did you do this to me and then he would like write songs he would do like the whole adam sandler like what's when he sings in um a crazy night no not hanukkah song the movie um with drew barrymore wedding singer wedding singer when he does oh my god he used to do that and he were like we were like 10 years old and he could just do it it's cool that adam Sandler could do it too. It is cool that Adam Sandler. To his credit, you know, a lot of racism in his recent movies, but he can play guitar. It's actually rule of culture number 17.
Starting point is 00:24:32 It's really cool that Adam Sandler can do that. Now, Marsha, we're going to ask you the question we ask all of our guests, which is what was the culture that made you say cultures for you? Yeah. What is the culture that made you say that made you want to move in a cultural direction what is the culture yeah like a movie you saw oh my god like it's not something that you experienced in pop culture that defined this goes full circle to what we were talking about before the podcast because it's it's truly humiliating but i'm gonna be fully honest it was Rent it was Rent
Starting point is 00:25:05 when I was in 7th grade I discovered Rent and it like truly changed my whole world and I was like I wanna do heroin now I would love to be poor I wanna be poor in New York doing heroin shunning my white privilege not acknowledging
Starting point is 00:25:22 it in any way and not paying my rent for a full year i like to in the original musical they sang last month's rent which is the only thing that could have made sense and like the original because this is how geeked out on rent i was i like downloaded like illegal soundtracks of like the original 1994 workshop or whatever like i was such a dork it was crazy i ordered on in the early days of the internet i would order vhs bootlegs of broadway shows from ebay and shit from like yeah like chat rooms like whoa i would like i would like send i would like money wires some girl and i hid it all
Starting point is 00:26:00 from my parents i like treated it like drugs like i was like didn't want them to know you didn't want them to know that you liked Rent. That I was ordering bootlegs. They knew I liked Rent. Trust me. They knew I liked Rent. But they didn't know that I was ordering bootlegs online. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:26:16 I lived in Oklahoma. How was I going to get to New York? Sure, absolutely. And then for my bat mitzvah, my dad took me to New York to see Broadway shows, which was nice. And what did you say then? Oh God. We saw Hairspray, the original cast. for my bat mitzvah my dad took me to New York to see Broadway shows which was nice and what did you say then oh god we saw Hairspray
Starting point is 00:26:28 the original cast oh I saw them too they were amazing I loved that yeah that was great I loved that the last number the way it just kind of
Starting point is 00:26:35 roars at you you can't stop the beat if you haven't ever seen you can't stop the beat it's actually rule of culture number 103 you can't stop the beat
Starting point is 00:26:43 but if if you haven't experienced you can't stop the beat but if you haven't experienced you can't stop the beat the finale of Hairspray live you're missing something because it's like a wall of sound hitting you and a wall of joy and a wall of celebration it's so good it's honestly such a good workout song too
Starting point is 00:27:01 it's really fun to run to do you know what I'll say is the worst ending to any musical that i've ever there's two actually that are tied for the same reason okay so i saw the queen musical we will rock you in london my parents worked in london for a little bit when i was in high school so we saw we will rock you in london and then i also mama mia and what they both did which was insufferable is that the show has ended and they do seven to nine encores of every single song they just played in the show while you're like standing up clapping you're like wait I thought this was the goodbye bows like they keep going and it was totally insane and my I was with my friend at Mamma Mia and after the third
Starting point is 00:27:44 callback she was like they're getting a little stage happy i mean it's crazy like get off the stage i mean for like kids to be thinking that like who are not like totally awestruck at what's going on to be like all right like wrap it up we're at the tulsa pac and we're bored um and also i hate the musical this is i hate um or i don't know if i hate it i I hated cats. Oh, I think a lot of people. Cats traumatize me as a child. Like whenever. Tyler Coates loves cats. Tyler Coates loves cats.
Starting point is 00:28:08 That's his culture. Well, I love Tyler Cats, but Tyler. No, call him Tyler Cats. Hey, Tyler Cats. He does listen. Hi, Tyler Cats. Tyler Coates.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I don't think I honestly even have a problem with, well, I do, but I was like watching it. And first of all, the part where they all speak in synchrony, like synced in poem. I can't do it. Jellicle cats.
Starting point is 00:28:33 To me, it's like too weird. It's too weird. Well, also, I'm sorry, but did you guys like Jesus Christ Superstar? Wait, wait, I have to talk about that too. You're the only person I've talked to who did not like it. I feel like it's just because I don't know the show. This is my first exposure to the show. No, I hate, like, Jesus Christ Superstar,
Starting point is 00:28:51 I've watched it five times, and I never have any idea what's going on, because I don't know the plot of the Bible. All my Christian friends are like, I can tell you what's going on. I have no idea. I was remembering the plot to the Bible, the plot to the Bible, as it was going along. Sum was remembering the plot to the Bible as it was going along. Summarize the plot
Starting point is 00:29:08 of the Bible Okay, so here's what happened with Jesus. This is like what I No, start from the Old Testament and then end it at Revelation. That's too long.
Starting point is 00:29:15 That's like The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings. I'll just tell you quickly what happened with Jesus. Jesus had a whole group of friends that were like very tight with him.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But also with any type group of friends, like there's problems. Like there's going to be power structure. And Jesus happened to be at the top. Someone's got to do the group text of the 12 disciples. Like what that would look like. I actually had a sketch.
Starting point is 00:29:36 I was writing a sketch about that, but then I realized someone had already done it. There's a group of, there's like somebody, some group of gay people as the disciples. Matt has actually written a lot of biblical material in his sketches is that true i like it matt has this whole nativity sketch that's so fun it's i like biblical humor too i loved your well it's not biblical but my favorite was you and sudi's cleopatra yeah and you're really likes that
Starting point is 00:30:00 period i love period she she wrote a really good nativity sketch. That was on SNL. Emma Stone was in it and played Mary. Love Bible stuff. She had just given birth and Joseph was like, we have guests. And she was like, okay, I said I didn't want to see people. I just gave birth. Yeah. The place is a mess. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Three men who are like, we walked across the desert to see you. Yeah, well, I didn't invite you. Yeah, yeah. It's like, actually. Sorry, what are you doing? She was like, I have myrrh. That's literally,. Yeah, yeah. It's like, actually, what are you doing? I have myrrh. That's literally, I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:27 You can sum up the Bible in one word. It would be myrrh. Myrrh. Anyway, I guess what happened then is the group of friends, they got,
Starting point is 00:30:35 they got all into it. Jealous. If you could sum up the Bible in one word, it'd be jealous. Okay, wait, Matt wants to. Sorry,
Starting point is 00:30:42 you want to talk about the Bible? No, because now I'm like sitting here thinking, I can't remember why everyone was, why were mad at jesus and wanted to kill him because he because he um was preaching things against the roman church and and the jews also saw him as yes people blame the jews they say because he was a false messiah yeah okay well you know so in so like impassioned of the christ like mel gibson wanted to like vilify these jewish people yeah some of us some of us don't believe he was a false messiah um but wait so jesus christ superstar though i realized that they have our friend joel was in
Starting point is 00:31:16 and he was amazing he was amazing really oh my god everyone i thought was so i honestly in terms of the live shows thought it was the best one I'd ever seen. And John Legend was the only famous person they have cast in those that I was like, you could be on Broadway without any name to you. You are talented enough that he could be in a show. But I only realized how inappropriate it was recently because I used to sing as the audition song the, I don't know how. I don't know how. And there's this one part where she's like, and I've had so many men before
Starting point is 00:31:46 in very many, many ways. And I was like 14 singing that at auditions. And I'm like, all right, I'm a whore. I'm a whore. And I'm getting into the character. I'm a whore. I'm a whore. And the teachers who were watching me do it
Starting point is 00:32:02 were just like, this feels wrong. But we're going gonna let her sing it Let her sing it One time at summer camp There was this 12 year old girl we were auditioning for Grease And she did dance 10 looks 3 So she's like tits
Starting point is 00:32:17 And ass and the counselor I'll never forget this woman's face She thought about she was going to jail She's like I'm getting arrested. I'm a tennis. Orchestra, a balcony. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:32:33 And I used to, then I did that audition song too at like 16. I was like, now I'm old enough. Marsha would be a great Rizzo. You would be a good Riz. Oh my God, I got cast as Jan, which I didn't realize because I'd only seen the movie. The Jan was the fat character because in all the shows, Jan is like eating Twinkies literally the entire time. And she's the one that goes, brush up, brush up, brush up.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Brush up, brush up, brush up. And that was my big part because also it should be noted, this was at my Jewish summer camp, not known for its musical theater, and we cut Grease down to 30 minutes. What was cut? What did you do? All the hits? I don't know how they cut it down, but it was like,
Starting point is 00:33:06 they were like, we have 30 minutes to the show. No intermission. And that's what we did with all of our shows. We did bye bye birdie in 30 minutes. We did little mermaid. I was one of the daughters of Triton. I propose a challenge to you and that you,
Starting point is 00:33:19 you and Melissa, like, like fucking whittle down handmaid's telemusical to 30 minutes. Oh my God. We try. I mean, it was so hard. How long does it run now? Our first show, we were like, all right, we're going to try and make it an hour and 10.
Starting point is 00:33:29 And we're like, how long was that? Someone was like an hour and 50 minutes. Oh my God. No intermission? We did an intermission for the first one. The second one, we tried to cut it down, but didn't have an intermission. And people were like, you got to have an intermission. They're like, we're dying out here.
Starting point is 00:33:43 So then, and that was a late show too. And we were like after David Cross. Somission they're like we're dying out here so then um and that was a late show too and we were like after david cross so it was like so stressed out and the there was a dj coming in after our show so in the last 20 minutes of our show this dude comes in like you know the type of bros that hang out at union hall it's like six foot ten monster like walks in the back is screams what's going on down here and everyone in the back is like stop it's theater and he's like what he's like i'll come back it is a weird dichotomy it's a very weird upstairs downstairs i mean it's down abbey levels it's crazy at union hall and this is fucked up but when the upstairs like had that fire and it was closed for a month and a half i loved it i felt bad because i was like i
Starting point is 00:34:32 didn't wish poorly on the business i i love union hall and the people who work there but i was every time i went to a show there i realized i wasn't dreading it and i was like why because i don't have to walk through the upstairs it's not just it's the you have to walk through the whole upstairs past the body i sound like such a kvetch i'm like whatever i had my birthday there one time and it was a it was a weekday and it was so amazing because it was a little bit empty and like it was a great vibe but i had it on a weekend and it's night one time and it was like how yeah that's true weekdays are chill it's because parks love people on weekdays they're like chill because those aren't the like finance bros that live out there that are going out or whatever.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Anytime you're looking to use games to replace your personality on a Saturday night, it's not gonna work. Unless it's a nice date. Right. No, I mean, of course, we all, all of us with interesting personalities occasionally play games. Yes. But there are people
Starting point is 00:35:26 who you can tell where it's like, if they don't have that bocce ball, they're not having a conversation. Or if they don't have that pool table, you know, what are they going to talk to you about with Jerry? The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Joined by elite new friends. Rebecca Minkoff. Have you ever heard of her? But things could change in a New York Minute. She had this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy. What? You told her? Not today, Satan.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Not today. The Real Housewives of New York City. All new Tuesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. El will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks? We're teammates again.
Starting point is 00:37:17 And we're going to welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude, you're a dude, and Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show. We're going to highlight players, peers, guys that we played against, legends from the past, and we're just going to sit here and talk about them. And we'll get into the types of dudes. What kind of types of dudes are there, Gronk? We got studs, wizards. We got freaks. Or dudes, dude.
Starting point is 00:37:36 We got dogs. Dogs. We'll break down their games. We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak? Is Tom Brady a dog or a dude's dude? We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian and basketball hall of famer. I'm a mom and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women.
Starting point is 00:38:42 And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Are you a mini golfer? mini golf? I used to be obsessed
Starting point is 00:39:08 with mini golf and I've always wanted to go in the city and they have these like under time square like weird mini golf things I've never done an under time square one
Starting point is 00:39:16 it's like neon lights or whatever that's fine oh I want to do that it's probably expensive as well that's the thing I remember I first moved I was like let's do it
Starting point is 00:39:22 and it's like $9,000 I'm like I can't even buy a metro pass no Matt and I have been to this one this it. And it's like $9,000. I'm like, I can't even buy a Metro pass. No, man. I've been to this one. This pirate themed one. It's in Red Hook.
Starting point is 00:39:29 In Red Hook. And it's so fun. And it's cheap. Red Hook is so fun. I need to go out there more often. We gotta go. We gotta go. Red Hook is cool.
Starting point is 00:39:35 We gotta go. But I don't know if the, I don't know if that golf course is like the best. It's not the best. It's fun. It's not, you know. I miss the ones in Suburbia that you drive to. Oh. Well, you drive to. Oh, drive to.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Because they're able to be very big. Those are, yeah. The ones in Florida too, like the theme park size ones. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. The ones around Disney World that are like, we got to compete with Disney. We got to be big. We need a big skull.
Starting point is 00:39:58 What is this character? There's a mini golf pup that is competing with Disney. It's like, we're going to put Disney out of business. There's three things down in Orlando. Universal Studios, Walt Disney World, and that one mini golf course. And King Kong Putt-Putt.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Yeah, King Kong Putt-Putt. Oh my God. 3D technology. One time Marcia and, oh no, speaking of Melissa Stokowski, the three of us went to see
Starting point is 00:40:20 Erykah Badu together That was one of the best days of my life. That was so fun. It was at the Meadows. The Meadows Festival. We saw Erykah Badu together. That was one of the best days of my life. That was so fun. It was at the Meadows. The Meadows Festival. We saw Erykah Badu for free at like 4 p.m. It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:40:31 And then me and Melissa stayed and saw M.I.A., which was so funny because she's kind of a hit or miss performer. Yeah. Is what I've heard. And like there were parts that were like really cool. But there's this one part where she scaled this huge wall. Like she didn't like scale it like a spider monkey like she like got like i don't know how levied up there climbed a ladder on the back all of a sudden she's on top of this wall but then like her sound starts messing up so
Starting point is 00:40:54 she like won't start her song so she's like straddling this wall literally being like yeah no yeah no turn up yeah no down no down yeah uh like and she like didn't show up for her sound check i was gonna say she's absolutely one of those people who like does not show up she was way late to her time i saw the coolest there's this lady who kind of reminds me of mia who is this spanish rapper named mala rodriguez i think she's called la mala rodriguez like the bad rodriguez and um we went and saw her at where there was this thing it was like lollapalooza chile it was in south america and she like they have an hour slot very strictly and she showed up 45 minutes late and then 15 minutes later they cut her mic like festivals are brutal they cut lauren hill's mic
Starting point is 00:41:38 at afropunk when i saw when i saw her they cut erica's mic when we saw her you're right oh my god i got so pissed i was like what the fuck that is erica oh i remember you talking about i feel i know this is the problem too is like when they do it to a man i'm like oh they just do it to everybody when they do it to a woman i'm like are they doing it because she's a woman well you brought that up to kanye like yeah you said that to me when it happened and i was like oh my god because and i was a little stoned and i was like oh my god marcia is would they do it but they probably would do it to kanye and he'd fully flip out and it would be on the
Starting point is 00:42:06 internet the next day. Erica was just like, she was like, fine. Like, but probably women are just more like, they just give. Lauryn Hill went and did two full, it was doo-wop. She's in the middle of her biggest song that she was closing on. They cut the mic and then she's like, keeps doing the song for like two full minutes and the crowd is trying to just like sing it so we can all hear it. And then eventually security like walks her like off the stage. No.
Starting point is 00:42:32 And it really was crazy too because so Grace Jones was playing after her. So we were like, okay, well, you know, you got to clear the stage for Grace Jones. No, there was an hour and 15 minute gap between Grace Jones and Lauryn Hill where a DJ played. I was like, you did not clear this stage for of Lauryn Hill for a DJ. For a fucking DJ. It's like, yeah, Lauryn Hill was 30 minutes late to her show. She doesn't exist in this layer of time that we all function by. Like Lauryn Hill's not checking her watch to see if it's time to call the cab.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I feel like that's just not how she operates. It's like, you know. Damn. And it's also like, I don't know if it's time to call the cab i feel like that's just not how she operates like you know damn and it's also like i don't know if it was connie i don't know if the security guards would have come to like you know what take or as soon as they did with fucking lauren yeah i'm saying anyway here's the question here's the question you are in a festival with the handmaid's tale they cut lauren hill is scheduled before you and is late they come to you and say can you start late
Starting point is 00:43:27 oh that's right because I'm the DJ it's Lauren Hill we have to let her go absolutely and you you would willingly you think I'm gonna be
Starting point is 00:43:34 the bitch who's like my handmaid's tale is too important for Lauren Hill I'd be like I'm gonna be watching the show just let me know when we're on
Starting point is 00:43:42 what if it meant what if it meant but after you is Grace Jones and she has to start on time I'm going to be watching the show. Just let me know when we're on. What if it meant, what if it meant like she's took the ball? But after you is Grace Jones and she has to start on time. Then I go to the back and I say, Melissa, we really do got to cut the show to 30 minutes. We got to cut it.
Starting point is 00:43:55 No, but I get it. I mean, I get it, but I honestly think it's really rude to compare my art to a DJ, but okay, I guess you just did that. What we're actually doing is comparing your art to Lauren and Grace. Right, of course
Starting point is 00:44:05 my contemporaries you're content I like Lauren Hill because she hates white people fairly but she has a soft spot for the Jews so I think I could
Starting point is 00:44:12 get in there I think I could get in there I think Lauren's like I think Lauren is very accepting of Asians too probably I don't know for real
Starting point is 00:44:19 but I feel like she has I feel like together we have to find this out now sorry Matt sorry Matt we'll figure it out it's your guys' job thank you
Starting point is 00:44:28 sorry you were saying about the bible oh yeah anyway it ends with Jesus dying sorry now I remember I didn't watch the whole thing but I did love
Starting point is 00:44:36 because I do get so genuinely confused but I liked the sort of futuristic costumes that they did with the Jesus Christ Superstar Live yes yes
Starting point is 00:44:43 but I loved laughing too because it's so dramatic. What's the buzz? Tell me what's happening. What's the buzz? What is the ending of the Bible? Revelations, Revelations.
Starting point is 00:44:52 But what happens? Is it an exciting ending? It's eschatology. It's like the world. It's like how the world ends. Yeah, it's like apocalyptic stuff. Yeah, that's why Christians
Starting point is 00:45:00 all think that they're going to be the special ones who see the world end. It's like, keep wishing, babe. Keep wishing, babe. Keep wishing, babe. I was going to say the special ones who see the world. And it's like, keep wishing, babe. Oh, keep wishing, babe. Keep wishing, babe. I was going to say, oh, and then one more thing about Erykah Badu. Everyone, this is required viewing.
Starting point is 00:45:12 You know, Pitchfork does those over and under videos where they interview people and then they give them a random topic and they have to say if it's overrated or underrated and describe why. Over. Erykah Badu. I mean, under, under. Right, right, right. Erykah Badu has one and every single answer she gives is so fucking funny. I think she's stoned. It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:45:28 And she says everything is underrated. She's supportive of everything. I love it. She's like, underrated. She doesn't need that bitterness. No. Listening to her music is so therapeutic because, like, she is truly on this different level where she, like, completely accepts herself.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Yes. And in that, she's not suffering bullshit. No. Like, she's like, why waste your time not being happy like exactly this is why i have my diet like whenever um i want to feel crazy and lean into it i listen to erica badu and whenever i want to feel crazy and fight it but make it profound i listen to lauren hill that's funny like lauren hill's first album for a breakup it's like there's a just remember, this dude broke my heart in Portland. I'm, like, driving around, like, you just lost one. You just lost one.
Starting point is 00:46:09 I'm, like, screaming. Like, no, it's good. It's good. I was, like, you know, it's a healing thing because you're, like, well, she became Lauryn Hill after Who's the Loser Who Broke Her Heart. Exactly. The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill is, like, such a good breakup album. It's so good. Never date the boy in the band.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Never date the boy in the band. What do you guys listen to before you go to bed good question lately i'm listening to casey musgrave she's got a new album oh yeah you guys have now i have to i have to check her out oh marsh you love and she like her old stuff is very very twang and very like banjo plucky and pedal steely but love that she like her whole claim to fame when she first came out and uh came onto the scene in 2013 was that she was like quote-unquote progressive she's a country singer like a country girl who's acknowledged gay people who like sings about gay people and like a lot of
Starting point is 00:46:55 her songs pretty much only been the dixie chicks right yeah and even that was very indirect until that became their brand totally true until they had until they had already gotten their cds burned they're like might as well lean in. Yeah, exactly. And then, but Casey also, like, sings about weed all the fucking time. And it's like... I love that.
Starting point is 00:47:10 I like country music. Like, I like old country. Me too. I love listening to, like, Woody Guthrie and Hank Williams and stuff like that. That one kid who went viral was so funny. The guy in the Walmart, the little boy.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Oh, yeah, that was good. He, he, he. Oh! He, that was good. Honestly. Gorgeous. Country music. It's what we need right now. Country music will unite us. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:47:33 We need Roseanne back. We need American Idol back. We need country music. We need Garth Brooks and Trisha Yearwood. And you got to get black country into the mainstream country because you remember how crazy it was when Beyonce played with the Dixie Chicks? Oh, think about it's like beyonce in her latest album like she did this like country song and like her song they sang yeah and it's like so it's like there's so much
Starting point is 00:47:55 that like you know because the black people have been like taken out of the south's narrative that i wonder what the progressive country movement if you could have like i mean right now you have like teachers striking in Oklahoma where I'm from and shit. So it's like, and you have some of these places being turned like that you would never think would vote anything but like crazy Republican.
Starting point is 00:48:16 So why not country music? So why not country music? So why not country music? You know what? Mickey Guyton is this amazing country singer. She's, and she's black and she's so, so good. Oh, yeah, yeah. I've listened to her.
Starting point is 00:48:27 She's good. So anyway, no, but I agree. There's a couple girls that have been on The Voice too that have been black that have been like my thing. I need to watch The Voice more. That have been like my thing is country music. This is what I want. And they've been good.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Yeah. But they just know there's no like... But they come from a gospel place. So there's, but that is part of the South. Totally. So like, where is that music? They're missing such a market. I mean, that's what's so stupid is like, because they know that no mainstream country record
Starting point is 00:48:55 is going to uncontroversially like, it's crazy because these are the same people that say racism doesn't exist anymore. And then it's like, but what kind of like Nashville Records is going to sign a bunch of black artists with the same label as the white country artists they might have their own label for hip-hop or black country or whatever but they keep it separate yeah you know two different genres just separate pop country is implicitly white yeah of course yeah if you say pop country And like it all looks the same, same, same. It is so. The women look the same.
Starting point is 00:49:27 The men look the same. That was my childhood. Have you ever, do you know Ray Lynn? Do you know the singer Ray Lynn? And God made girls. Yeah. And God made girls.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Oh my God. He made them so you rock your world. Like basically, God made girls because boys need it. It was like, somebody's gotta tell them
Starting point is 00:49:44 how to flirt Like it's just like you need to listen to this song It's sicko Yeah that's how all of them are They're like it's so bad That's the title of that God made girls Now imagine me as like a little Jewish high schooler In Tulsa Oklahoma
Starting point is 00:49:58 And like fucking Brianna Pulling up in her huge ass pickup truck Like blasting like She thinks my tractor's sexy I'm like I hate this place I saw him in concert once kill me really yeah my dad liked him a lot he was pretty good
Starting point is 00:50:14 I always thought he was hot hey you know what a lot of people have like told me confessionally that they are attracted to those wait you posted this the Daniel Tosh that you think Daniel Tosh is hot on the posters i i jokingly a little bit said that there was a picture of him in the subway there was a picture of him in the subway that was like he does not look good matt i don't know i like tosh i don't know guys i like really want to you want to be
Starting point is 00:50:39 in bed like i got a video you should put on your show and then then he's going to like, Tosh 2.0. He's going to like say that you should, you deserve to get raped. Yeah, Matt. That's what he says? Yes. He had some breakdown where some woman was heckling him and then he yelled back at her,
Starting point is 00:50:55 like get raped. And it's almost like, to me it's like, just write a better joke even. That's the thing, it's like get raped. Ew. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:51:02 When people are offended over like jokes and poor taste, it's about taste. It's not about like, fine, I'm offended, but actually I'm disappointed in you for not coming up with a better fucking joke. Yeah, they're all comedians that we disagree with that we like because they're actually funny. Like, and they're clever from
Starting point is 00:51:17 the point of view. Like, that's the thing. It's like, when your shits hack, like, they go up there and they're like, oh, I'm being censored. It's like, like actually all that's happening is that you're a bad comedian you're doing the same thing and when your shit bombs you blame pc culture and imagine if me if i had ever on a singular joke blamed the fact that i was a woman i would be eaten alive oh you didn't laugh at that because i'm a woman they'll say that on stage you didn't laugh oh pc culture it's like your joke just bombed dude and they'll tell some jokes and now there
Starting point is 00:51:50 are enough people or women who feel comfortable being like hey that joke made me think that you're an asshole that's all we're saying all they're doing is saying something and we're not censoring you we're just calling you an asshole but to you that's completely unacceptable and the same thing as censorship like fucking ricky gervais oh my god i don't think so honey ricky gervais because like he his whole latest special humanity he's talking about this trans joke that he made about caitlin jenner and literally at one point he's like sitting on his stool going now let me tell you why that's funny it's like if you're telling us why it's funny he's like crossing his lap now let me describe to you why that is funny oh it's like it's not it's ever since he got skinny it's not funny i hate to say
Starting point is 00:52:31 it he really like became known for being he thinks he's hot now he had one great moment in the office yeah and like and then like that like that is actually you go back and watch that it's still genius extras and extras extras was fine but i didn didn't even like the next one with Warwick Davis. I didn't like the next shows that they did really. I just, yeah, ever since he lost the weight, he's been funny. Did you guys like my British accent? I thought it was really good. You've been killing the accents all.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Thank you. Wait, did he say? You are Meryl Streep. Meryl Streep. Okay, because my favorite accent I just did that Sam Taggart loves, which I love that he loves. Do it. Dialect.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Dialect. I have one character. He's called the Australian Bachelor. Okay. Go on. so it's the bachelor if he were australian go on he says hello my name's meech and i'm the bitchla bitchla marcia these accents you have a talent i'm the bitchla you are meryl streep pretty fun being the bitch, like, yeah. I think, and that's just all his personality. He's in Meryl Streep. Meryl Streep. She's Meryl Streep.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Meryl Streep. Guys, we've come to the second installment of our newest segment called Voice Memo You Bitch. So, fan favorites are going to leave voice memos for us to play.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Yep. And we will react in real time and after the fact. And our voice memo you bitch today is from Pat Regan. voice memos for us to play yep and we will react in real time and after the fact and our our um voice memo you bitch today is from pat regan and so pat i guess he'll he'll introduce himself right now great here we go the bitch is back pick your jaws up off the floor girls you look like you just heard a ghost marciaha, you look fucking amazing tonight. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:54:06 You look gorgeous and stunning. It's insane. Can you turn around so we can see the back? Oh, my God. The back is beautiful. I love the look. Thank you. I want to talk about Joel Kim Booster and kind of answer his assertion that he is the first two-time guest on Lost Culture Is Das.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Which is true. Because we all know that I was the first two-time guest on Lost Culture Istas. Which is true. Because we all know that I was the first two-time guest on Lost Culture Istas. Lost episode counts and very much so. A podcast is born when it is performed, not when it is recorded or airs. And what we created that day was very much a podcast episode. And in everyone's heart, they know that. And so I don't know what Joel's deal is, and I have to wonder if he is, and I hate to use this word,
Starting point is 00:54:50 but jealous. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, just lick the microphone. My wife, Padma Lakshmi, followed Lost Cultures on Twitter this week. Congratulations. And I couldn't help but notice that she wasn't acknowledging me on the platform, and so I sent a text to Matt and Bo and said, you know, Padma needs to acknowledge me. And so I tweeted out.
Starting point is 00:55:12 I said, Padma, I'm a frequent guest on this pod. Please acknowledge me right now. And she only faved. Didn't tweet back. Didn't follow. But she did fave. And I go, okay, Padma. Because that wasn't really an acknowledge.
Starting point is 00:55:32 And so I have to think if and when I do get famous, when I go around to all the late night shows to promote my latest project, my kind of anecdote and story that I will tell, kind of belly up to Fallon's desk, will be that, you know, Padma Lakshmi didn't acknowledge me before I was famous. And we'll laugh about it, but it'll be really real. Anyways, Padma, if you're listening, if you could hear this,
Starting point is 00:55:58 we can absolutely start over. I would love to just, like, get dinner and do this in earnest, you know? Like, let's be friends. I would love to pick your brain dinner and do this in earnest you know like let's be friends I would love to pick your brain about Casey from Top Chef season three who was in fact important to me during my formative years um all is not lost you can absolutely hit the reset button and get off on the right foot I would love that and just get rid of this toxicity. Anyways, I still love Simon. I loved it. Unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:56:28 So sorry. I think it's such an important story to be told for my culture of white gay. And that's all I have to say for right now. He's on the street. He's on the street. I want everyone to have a really nice week. I wish everyone peace, love, and light. I'm in a really positive place right now.
Starting point is 00:56:50 That's good. And it's truly a new beginning. I have so many amazing projects right now that I have to run off to. He just turns into a zombie. Expect really big things coming from me soon. I'm so excited for what I'm going to put out next. And I think my fans are really going to like it and be surprised by it. That's how it ended.
Starting point is 00:57:10 This has actually been Pat Regan this whole entire time. God bless you. Anyone listening. Okay. Goodbye. Marsha, you look fucking gorgeous. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:57:21 The car honking as he's in the middle of saying his projects Pat isn't your tiny Tim like Pat is the best he goes may God bless everyone wait thoughts on Love Simon I just thought okay I obviously had a bit of a skewed perspective from Sam and Bowen's Instagram reaction
Starting point is 00:57:39 but I loved it and I loved you guys' article about it but the parts that were like there were parts that were genuinely funny that were written to be funny that were like so good. But there were some parts that were absolutely insane. Yeah, of course there were. Oh my God. I'm trying to think of it because like there were so many.
Starting point is 00:57:58 First of all, the woman from Insecure was so funny. Natasha. Natasha Rothwell, yes. Was so funny. She's amazing. She's amazing. But it was like, I mean, first of all, the lead guy is like, yeah, he's cute.
Starting point is 00:58:13 But I predicted it right because I was like, I think I predicted who it was, I think. Yeah, I think I knew too. I thought I knew. But it did take me on some twists and turns. That's fun. But yeah, I'm trying to think about the parts that were, like, really crazy. What were they that remind me?
Starting point is 00:58:29 I'll tell you which ones. The one that, like, Susie and I saw. The iced coffee was crazy. I agree. The iced coffee is so silly. Because, like, the beginning takes itself so seriously. And it is true. He's like, everything about me is normal.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Except for one secret. And he's like. I'm going. Yeah. I'm going okay but it is important though it is important it's uh sure uh the fucking the fucking like dance sequence in the dorm and like literally the set dressing well it was like they were outside on this quad and but then like the art like it's supposed to be this super overwhelmingly gay like visual but like they're wearing rite aid t-shirts and and the fucking and and on the exterior like the fucking art direction whatever whoever in the art department just hung the
Starting point is 00:59:16 smallest little pride flag on this giant stone building as if that was like supposed to like it should have been guys with their dicks out it should have been like fucking everyone booty popping that's what they can't show is like he's actually like at a leather bar like and then he says at the end maybe not this gay what he meant was maybe not this type of gay maybe he's gonna go off to a dungeon maybe he'll go and be a submissive but you know you never know but i'm glad you liked it i mean but some parts of it were cringeworthy. The part that I did not get was when basically he's been outed to the whole school.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Everyone knows. And then he pulls up to pick his friends up and his friends are like, fuck you for what you did to us. I didn't understand that at all. How could you do this to us? You tried to ruin our lives. And he was like, guys, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:00:04 And they're like, stay away from us. I got that because the whole time he's treating his friend as like a pawn though he really is he's like whoa maybe and also i mean the guy who's supposed to be annoying sometimes the annoying character is cast too well and i'm like i think if i see that actor in real life i'm gonna punch him he wasn't he did a great job of being so but it was you know actually now that i'm thinking back on it it was good actually it was a good movie no that's the thing is that it's not but um anyway i think it was an amazing movie did padma follow you i thought she did i wonder why you thought that no padma didn't follow me i would notice she followed you i would love but congratulations i was gonna say that by the way congratulations on the padma follow padma if you're listening definitely no pressure no pressure you know i might be too
Starting point is 01:00:49 man-hating she seems very nice no no she's very liberal she has rough critiques on rupal's drag race she is not ms nice guy i know no i love her she's great she came through with the critiques she did and she had some pointed critiques now it's like, so in addition to all that other crap, I'm also fighting this like weird battle with Facebook. Everybody is now. Yeah, you're always. Everybody's in war with Facebook. But Facebook has like banned me a bunch of times for these like crazy, like one time
Starting point is 01:01:15 it was for this like photo of me as a six year old saying kill all men. Adorable. Adorable. And but so now like what happened was basically we had this friend, Nicole. Adorable. Adorable. And, but, so, now, like, what happened was, basically, we had this friend,
Starting point is 01:01:27 Nicole, she posted 200 and something photos of her being harassed. Because during Me Too, she posted this list that was, like, laughably innocuous.
Starting point is 01:01:38 It's like, so innocuous. Like, here's what men should do. Yeah, it was like, good men, basic things.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Talk to your creepy friend, and if you have multiple women who say you're still being creepy, don't bring them around to the bar anymore like you know really simple stuff and dudes were like i will kill you and this one guy posted this is why men don't trust women it's like oh this is why so that's exactly so i posted as a comment underneath that specific post men are scum and then i even replied to that like lol guess i lost that guy's trust you know blah blah blah so then i got banned from facebook for 30 days for that comment and it turned into this whole saga where now i'm like talking to other people because
Starting point is 01:02:17 when you look into it they have humans deciding what gets removed it's a fucking 20 something year old asshole wearing warby parker glasses i just found out it's actually like it's a fucking 20 something year old asshole wearing a Warby Parker and it's outsourced I just found out it's actually like it's not always to a foreign place but it's quadruply outsourced where basically they hire somebody who hires somebody who hires somebody who hires a freelance company who hires the moderators and it's wild but so but now
Starting point is 01:02:38 because that happened all of the press that's been written about it this is literally the line that I'm given it's Marsha Belsky is a comedian who calls men scum on the internet that's literally just what they say and I'm like but that's not true
Starting point is 01:02:52 I'm like I'm a little more clever than that because I've actually come up with a full matriarchy where men are imprisoned by our system so please just don't reduce it to men are scum because that militia has worked too hard for that. The militia is stronger than you know. Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Like, ban me for training a militia of women in the woods. Sure. But men are scum. I mean, come on. But so, yeah. So now I'm always worried when, like, people don't know me, like, that are, like, going to come to my page, like, because they're just like, what kind of a monster just goes around calling people scum for no reason? It's god whatever they can deal they can deal and also i
Starting point is 01:03:30 think i feel like i mean i've been off facebook for a few weeks i want to get off so bad you sort of need to stay do you think that's what i feel like is that because it started with people like reporting me i have this ornery like stubbornness where i'm like i'm not going to get off but like but then i'm not ever going to get off for the rest of my life i'm not going to come um but then like i it's hard because like i do want to get off facebook but i told my manager like my one of my career goals is to like not need facebook because like when i was banned uh i lost a 50 gig because i couldn't reach the guy any other way. And they needed a fill in that night.
Starting point is 01:04:09 And I was like, 50 bucks is not, you know, nothing for a show. So I'm like, couple meals, couple meals right there. You know, get yourself a weekly MetroCard plus a meal. So there's some of that. There's the accent. There's the, you know, that's another one. That's my inner monologue. But but yeah, so it's like, you know. Well, you're you're not very far from not needing Facebook as a thing.
Starting point is 01:04:24 But then I missed you. Like someone like, oh, why don't you're not very far from not needing Facebook as a thing. No one needs it. But then I miss too, like someone like, oh, why didn't you come to my birthday party? Like, you didn't text me. Like, you know, like nobody. I like that now people do birthday invites on email, which I like. Always the best policy. That's the best. I like emails where business should happen.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Email is. World culture number 45. Emails where business should happen. Agreed. Should we move on to I don't think so, honey? Let's wrap this all up and do I Don't Think So Honey. It's time. Of course we have a real champion over here. This is a Cold War participant.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Yes, yes. She was Team Matt. She was Team Matt. And you represented well. And you know what's sad? Because so I was debating between doing this one or the one I ended up doing which was Mark Zuckerberg because I was just going, you know, I was right when the Facebook stuff happened. But then I knew like Tyler and Joel,
Starting point is 01:05:06 they like knew the whole story. So as soon as I got there, I was like, oh, I should have done the other one. So now I get my like, I get to do the one that I should have done. Do you want to go first or should I? You go first.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Okay. Because you have one ready. This is Matt Rogers's I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey when reality shows cannot choose finalists
Starting point is 01:05:24 and so there's four. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah time starts now. I don't think so, honey, when reality shows cannot choose finalists. And so there's four. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bitch, no. There is a top two on reality shows. And if you cannot decide who needs to go home, guess what? You are not good at your job because a good producer would get in there and have a decision get made because that is why we are watching. We watch a reality show to see an elimination at the end of the fucking episode also i'm sorry but they are not all that good what is with this they know
Starting point is 01:05:52 they signed up to be cut potentially so fucking cut them america's next top model there has been a true final four for three weeks now because they can't cut people. They just keep, look, bitch, we get it. We've already seen the little edited package about their difficulty with their mother. We don't need to see it again.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Get them off the show so we can have a good winner versus loser narrative. I want a top two. RuPaul's Drag Race, I'm looking at you. Do not do this on season 10 like you did in season nine.
Starting point is 01:06:19 I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. Gorge, wow. I feel very passionately about this i don't want to see five people and walk new york fashion week on project runway it should be three but that was one of your more and like informationally dense i don't think so honey that was great i was scared you're gonna pass out sideways like a child who locked their knees in choir honestly i feel very strongly about that one because like with america's next top model
Starting point is 01:06:43 there's four finalists and we're're like, oh, my God. Cut these two girls. They're not going to win. Moving on. It's the stupidest. I just thought of another great I Don't Think So Honey, too. But I guess I have to save that for the next one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:52 It's for the next one. It's for the next one. You'll do it again. Listen, there's always chances. Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey. Ethical consumption.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Because guess what, bitch? Yesterday at the airport, I ate Chick-fil-a I'm a self-loathing gay man who was gonna contribute to this horrible bullshit fried chicken place but look it's so good and I had the spicy chicken sandwich it was delicious
Starting point is 01:07:17 but everyone in line in front of me and I could live with I could live with this everyone in line in front of me was clearly like a Trump voting oh boy just cookie cutter person but I was like it's fine I will if this is what it takes for me to like 30 seconds And I could live with this. Everyone in line in front of me was clearly like a Trump voting. Oh, boy. Just cookie cutter person. But I was like, it's fine. If this is what it takes for me to be among you people, then fine. I'm happy to share this common ground.
Starting point is 01:07:34 But ethical consumption? Look, you can't make us feel guilty about everything that we touch. Everything that we touch is going to be made by some horrible Halliburton person. It's okay. It's fine, guys. 15 seconds. So go to your Starbucks. Don's okay. It's fine, guys. 15 seconds. So go to your Starbucks. Don't buy local.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Don't eat local. Go to your evil corporations because at the end of the day, we're all going to suffer in the end for whatever reason. So go down happy. I don't think so, honey. We're all going to suffer.
Starting point is 01:07:59 And that's one minute. Yes. It's hard. I agree with you. I never ethically consume. There you go. I agree with you. I never ethically consume. There you go. Thank you, man. I know.
Starting point is 01:08:07 I mean, I love to like faux cry for a boycott just so that companies feel shame. Yes. But, you know. And sometimes that's all it takes. That's all it takes. I can still buy and pay them. I was traveling yesterday back from Virginia in the car. And so we had to stop at like a rest stop to go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:08:20 And I was going to go to the Burger King. And they closed it up. And I turned around to my friend. And I was like, they're closed. It and they closed it up and I turned around to my friend and I was like they're closed it's fine like I saw myself do it later and I was like wow I was like too upset that Burger King was closed they're closed it's fine anytime my plan doesn't go my way I'm pretty
Starting point is 01:08:36 much full level upset there's no in between for me it's like either I'm really happy or like I trip and my day is ruined no not that extreme but Burger King being closed. That would be a day. That's unacceptable. No, it's not acceptable.
Starting point is 01:08:48 It was also like 9 p.m. Sure. Unbelievable. This is one of Marsha Belsky's indelible. I don't think so, honey. Marsha, you ready? Yes. Marsha Belsky's I don't think so, honey.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Straight men in theater. Don't you have enough? don't you have enough don't you have enough i mean first of all you get to just dominate in every other area and then you come into theater and you have nine million more parts than us but one per every like actress and when you're straight in theater you get laid so much there is there is too much there is there is too much sex and the thing is is that when you get straight in theater, you get laid so much. There is too much. Can't be good for you. There is too much sex.
Starting point is 01:09:27 And the thing is, is that when you get so much of an ego, it's like they're rock stars before they even get out of the community theater. I mean, the thing is, what's nice about these guys, though, is that if you're the one to enlighten them that they're not interesting, they get really obsessed with you. So that's really fun. And some of it, of course, you know, if you're out there and you're a straight guy in theater thinking you know that's not like me it is and unfortunately just leave theater to us because we don't have a lot oh and bye that's one minute oh my god straight men in theater i know several of them and they are more successful than the gay men in theater and it gets frustrating well that and also i mean it's like they get fucked it's crazy like every time they leave the bar i remember i saw this interview with the guy from glee the douchey teacher i saw him in
Starting point is 01:10:15 harrisburg and i was like he was like he is hot though he was like yeah like pretty sure i'm not gay because when you're straight like you actually get laid a whole lot in theater. So I've never had a problem with women. And it's like, it wasn't as homophobic as all that, I don't think. But he was basically just, like, saying how, like, he. Oh, I get a lot of pussies. Yeah, like, he was just like, trust me when you're straight in theater, you know. And that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:10:40 I remember being in these shows and there's, like, the one hot straight guy and every girl in the cast is trying to fuck him like and then I'm the one who's just like I'll be like your fun like fat friend I think that I mean like deep down
Starting point is 01:10:53 that's all of us that's all of us oh my god this has been such a great episode with Marsha Belsky I mean come on an icon
Starting point is 01:11:01 go check out her stuff Reductress Live it's gonna be a very busy and fruitful beginning of spring. There you go. Into spring. It will be.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Into spring into the summer. We are in bloom right now. Check out Reductress Live at Caroline's on Broadway, April 26th to the 28th. Miss Andrea with Marsha and Ray. Listen to that podcast. Amazing podcast. Shout out, Rae Sonny. Shout out, Rae Sonny.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Miss you. Shout out, Melissa Stokowski for Handmaid's Tale, the musical. Shout out, my mother. Shout out, my mother. Shout out, my mother. Shout out my mother. Shout out my mother. Shout out to the man himself, the Lord Jesus Christ. And shout out to... Shout out to Matt's Lord Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Matt's Lord Jesus Christ. And John Legend. Shout out to John Legend. He's never going to recover from that part. I could tell he was thinking, how am I going to stop being cheesy? His voice is absolutely ruined. Shout out to Chrissy Teigen for the tweets. For the tweets.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Great tweets. Shout out to... Padma. Padma Lakshmi. Thank you, Padma. Okay, bye. Oh, wait. Oh, tweets. Great tweets. Shout out to Padma. Padma Lakshmi. Thank you, Padma. Okay, bye. Oh, wait. We have to sing.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Bye. Who are you tonight? Who are you, Padma? That's Padma Lakshmi singing. That's Padma Lakshmi singing. That was Padma Lakshmi singing. Who are you, Padma Lakshmi? Thank you, Padma. Good night, Padma.
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