Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - The Top Ten Diva Moments

Episode Date: January 1, 2024

In this BONUS episode, Matt and Bowen give you their Top Ten Diva Moments.  This bonus episode is available early for subscribers to Big Money Players Diamond on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/lasc...ulturistasSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This fall on Bravo. It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. We're friends like that, who needs enemies? You ain't seen nothing yet. Cheers to being Germanic. With the Real Housewives of Potomac.
Starting point is 00:00:11 Oh my gosh, can I take this in? It's gonna be amazing. New York City. Everyone is a gossip. No one gets a happier life. Salt Lake City. We don't wear costumes, we wear fashion. And below deck sailing out.
Starting point is 00:00:21 You broke the rules and now you're here getting upset. Watch all new seasons on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami? Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chez Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. to being one of today's biggest artists. I was a desperate delusional dreamer. Be a delusional dreamer.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. Look, man. Oh, I see. Wow.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I mean, this is, I guess, going to be the final of the year. Our top 10 series. And this has been, I think, the best thing we've ever done. If I was to rank our top 10 things we've ever done, this would be number one. We're nowhere near doing that. We are not about to, you know, self-aggrandize anytime soon. Maybe, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:13 at the 10-year anniversary, we might, but we'll see. Yeah, honestly, at the 10-year anniversary, take a look for 1,000 best moments of Lost Couch. It will be a 10-episode series. 1,000 moments of Lost Couch. It will be a ten episode series one thousand moments of Lost Couch
Starting point is 00:02:29 that you heard here first. Terrifying. Oh my god, nobody wants that. That would be the most snake-eating-its-own-tail bullshit ever in podcasting history and now we have to do it. And I think we will. We'll call it a thousand.
Starting point is 00:02:46 A thousand moments of Lost Cult. And we rank the top thousand moments of the podcast? Yes. Oh my god! Could be legendary. Could be legendary, but not as legendary as any of these moments on this list of top tens. And what is this list of top tens matt well this is the top
Starting point is 00:03:07 10 diva moments now you'll notice that diva moments is different than divas because we feel that that will be too easy no yeah we as witnesses thank you seth myers for really aptly labeling us we as witnesses we are witnesses to the culture we look at the minutia. We look at the moments and the elements that make up an icon, a diva, a legend. And these are top 10 moments of just that. Now let's get started, shall we? Unless you have anything to say to preface with what makes a diva, what makes a moment. Not that our listeners need any definition, but go. What makes a diva, I believe,
Starting point is 00:03:45 is someone who bravely and boldly veers off the path. And yet we didn't know that actually was the correct way to go. For example, on a highway, right? You certainly have one way of driving down the highway. We are headed one way, right? If Christina Aguilera were to say, hold on, I'm going to start to drive the other direction on the highway, she would be number one on this list. She hasn't done that yet. I'm not necessarily saying she should. But if Christina Aguilera were to drive the reverse direction on a highway, that would be a diva moment. That would be the diva moment. Youa moment you're so right that would shoot straight to the top we would go i mean that is that is in essence what all of these moments we're about to
Starting point is 00:04:33 unfurl are doing it's these it's people who decided i'm gonna drive in reverse on the fucking freeway of life yeah the cultural freeway these divas drove in the in the. Yeah, the cultural freeway. These divas drove in the wrong direction on the cultural freeway, and thank fucking God because now we have an episode. Thank fucking God. So, Beau, should we start at number ten and sort of go all the way down
Starting point is 00:04:58 to one because that's the most exciting way to do it? I think so. Let's start. Number ten of the top ten divan moments, Lost number 10. this is a moment of shame for this person but i i put this here because i think it's an important framework for what we expect of our divas going forward because she was really the sacrificial lamb in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Because now it's like, well, everyone's lip syncing. I mean, we're recording this around Thanksgiving. Everyone at the Thanksgiving Day Parade sends time immemorial for decades. I was watching Vanessa Williams singing, you know, something in the 80s or 90s and I was like, she's lip syncing? Like everyone has done it.
Starting point is 00:05:45 And it took Ashley Simpson to do it on SNL for us to, like, pillory her. If you're going to flop, flop spectacular. Yes. And that's what I would say, is that I was actually watching live. Me too. I was watching live.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Almost every gay person was watching live this moment on television, I think because it really speaks to how much we were rooting for Ashley Simpson and how horny we were for Jude Law, who was probably at the peak of his hotness. And I'll never forget the end when he said,
Starting point is 00:06:16 live TV! And then she goes, well, my band started playing the wrong song, and so I thought I'd do a hoedown. And I was like, wow. She's not only digging in right now but she's throwing other people under the bus diva behavior diva she said my band started playing like the wrong song individual she has to see nearly every day and she said this is going to be the way forward she threw them under the bus spectacularly flopped so hard was never the same but what did she do she picked
Starting point is 00:06:46 up the pieces she married diana ross's son because guess what game recognizes game diva diva diva gets into the other divas orbit and everything happens for a reason bowen and i think that had she not done the hoedown and flopped so spectacularly she wouldn't be part of the dynasty that is diana ross she wouldn't be ashley simpson ross everything happens for a reason ashley's path led her through the hallowed halls of snl onto that iconic stage so that she could not sing blame it on other people then blame it on acid reflux, iconic, and then be a Simpson Ross. And then end up on this list. That is why
Starting point is 00:07:29 she ranks at number 10, top 10 diva moments, Lost Cult. Number 9. I know what I'd be. A whale. I love whales. Beyonce. This was Beyonce at her most vulnerable and I would say potentially most relatable,
Starting point is 00:07:48 which is not why we love Beyonce, right? We love her because she's not relatable. But this moment where she and Kelly and Michelle are stoned out of their minds talking to an interviewer on camera, beautiful vulnerability. Yeah, I think that all three of them did amazing work in this interview.
Starting point is 00:08:11 But I think that really what we're gonna have to remember is that beyonce not only did she reveal what animal she would be which i think would literally never happen now i think she's really barely even acknowledging her own humanity like she she is a goddess a deity whatever she certainly would never be caught dead doing an interview on camera let alone in a vulnerable high state but she actually she nodded to the future in this moment because she said i would be a whale i would be the biggest thing you could be in the most vast space beyonce was telling us at this moment i plan to take up a lot of space space and i'll be away has she and Let's give it up Let's give some props to Michelle Williams because you know what she says that right right at this moment
Starting point is 00:08:52 Beyonce says I love whales Michelle Williams cuts in and goes she wants to touch one one day She wants to touch one one day So beautiful Michelle thank you. She wants to touch one one day. Like, so beautiful. Michelle, thank you. She wants to touch one one day. She's sexy. She would be... What is she? A cheetah.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Would she be a lion? A cheetah. A panther. I would be a panther. Yes. Because she's sexy. They were having fun this day. They were having so much fun.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Oh, God. That was a nice time in pop culture. I just wish that... Because, you know, they're asked now about that interview, and they're like, we were not high, we were not high. It's like, girls... You'd rather be high than just weird. Completely. But, you know, they can't compromise their Christianity.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I would be a panther because she's sexy she wants to touch one one day that might be my favorite part of the whole interview is Michelle going she wants to touch one one day I know what I'd be a whale
Starting point is 00:09:59 can I say if culture is the ocean Beyonce is a whale and that is why beyonce saying she wanted to be a whale if she could be an animal is number nine on top 10 diva moments lost lost culture number eight divas live you can't get better than all the divas getting together of course it's gonna be on the list at number eight, at least. At least. I mean, this was pre-Avengers crossover moment, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:32 Very much so. It blew your mind to see these people share the stage together. Yeah. I don't think we'd ever seen anything like the performance at the end of the show when Celineeline dion was bravely and boldly going up to aretha franklin and trying to out sing her which by the way mariah has commented on many times since then and said she thought it was extremely disrespectful and apparently patty labelle reached out to mariah afterwards i guess patty labelle had been watching at home why she wasn't involved we'll never know but she reached out to mariah and she said you did the right thing you don't go up and try to out sing aretha that was crazy well i think patty wasn't
Starting point is 00:11:10 there because there was the perceived rumored feud between patty and aretha which once aretha passed was quickly debunked patty put out a statement saying aretha and I were always friendly. Oh, she put out a one-word statement. Debunked! Debunked. Debunked. To hear Patty say debunked. And by the way, if you're a Patty fan, stay tuned on this list. Here's what I'll say about Celine sort of challenging Aretha
Starting point is 00:11:37 on stage. That is a Christina Aguilera driving the wrong way on the freeway moment. And you need it! We wouldn't be talking about it if there wasn't a Christina Aguilera driving the wrong way on the freeway moment. And you need it. We wouldn't be talking about it if there wasn't a Christina Aguilera driving the wrong way on the freeway moment like that. Never forget that People Magazine did a cover story about Divas Live and they left Gloria Estefan out of it. Gloria Estefan was guest hosting the Rosie O'Donnell show and she pulled out the People Magazine. She said, they cut me out. And it's true.
Starting point is 00:12:07 They acted like it was only four women and Gloria was not in it. And Gloria very classily made a joke. And she said, I don't know, maybe I was blocked by Mariah's hair. And I said, that's a class act. So classy. God, what a gorgeous soul.
Starting point is 00:12:22 And can I say one of my favorite parts of that whole concert, which I watch again and again, is when Gloria Estefan sings her numbers, because she had one single, it's called Heaven's What I Feel. And it goes like this.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Love sometimes can be like destiny. It can take you to wherever. And I don't know how the rest goes. And then she goes, but I have broken all the rules of love.
Starting point is 00:12:54 You have to listen to this song. Heaven's what I feel. Heaven's what I feel. Heaven's what I feel when I'm with you. You have to. Look at you singing the notes.
Starting point is 00:13:09 I love Gloria. I love Divas. I love singing. Yes. And that is why Divas Live is number eight on our list of top ten Diva moments. Lost Coach. This fall on Bravo. It's time to turn up. We'll be wear costumes. We wear fashion. And below deck sailing.
Starting point is 00:13:48 You broke the rules. And now you're here getting upset. Watch all new seasons on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Let's have a real good time. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison
Starting point is 00:14:09 from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me.
Starting point is 00:14:42 It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean.
Starting point is 00:15:03 He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzales wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom.
Starting point is 00:15:38 At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Next one is really major major it is number seven i think there's no one better to speak to this than you thank you as one of the two i want to say that i was with you the week this came out. The day this came out, when Born This Way, the song came out, you and I were going up to Skidmore, to Skidmore College, to Saratoga Springs. Wow. You have good recall.
Starting point is 00:16:35 I had forgotten this was the circumstance. This was February 2011. And we were going up to Skidmore College. And I mean, I remember the way that the words, your orient struck me. I said, that's not quite right. But I know what she's going for. I know what she's going for.
Starting point is 00:16:56 And to this day, I stand by that because guess what? She was writing an inclusive song. And I know that word, that I word is, you know, a little bit of an eye roll maybe to some people. Not at the time. Not at the time. And still to this day, I think it's an important virtue. But Gaga was at the ripe age of what, like 24 years old,
Starting point is 00:17:21 writing a song being like everything you, anything you are that makes you feel different, that is beautiful. You were born this way. And that set off this whole culture of writing self-empowerment, self-love songs. I say, I applaud Gaga. You're Lebanese, you're Orient.
Starting point is 00:17:39 She kept that in the Super Bowl performance. Yeah, she did. She did not change it. She bravely went out onto the stage over a decade later with the knowledge that this was not right. And she said, you're Lebanese, you're Orient.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Whether life's disabilities make you feel outcast or teased. Make you outcast, bullied or teased. Bullied? To go up on lead? Make you outcast, lead or tease to go up on lead make you outcast but lead or tease this is iconic we need to do an episode soon which is a close read of the Born This Way lyrics
Starting point is 00:18:15 oh every line in the glass of her boudoir in the glass of her boudoir I mean we need to do this we need to do before that year is over we need to do we need to start a new series called cause lost coach close read which is we just take a brilliant i love a pop song and we just
Starting point is 00:18:36 literally word by word go through exactly what it is and and break it down you know what um is the model for that episode? What? I'm sorry to be self-referential, our Ghislaine Maxwell episode. We did a close read on her name, and it was poetry, I have to say. It's very much a frontrunner for the top 1,000 moments of Lost Poach, just to be number one that episode.
Starting point is 00:19:00 It's a serious frontrunner. Absolutely. Now, I just want to say before we move on that there were many Gaga moments to choose from. This was the clear winner to me for this list.
Starting point is 00:19:16 That's all I'm going to say. And I have to say, I think that you as a Lady Gaga scholar and an influencee, I think that it is really up to you to say this. We've had so much. We've had, of course, the Oscars performance of Shallow. We've had, of course,
Starting point is 00:19:32 the Super Bowl performance where she said where she caught the football at the end. We, of course, have her performance in American Horror Story. We have when someone threw up on her when she became a plane. We have so many moments and you've said no.
Starting point is 00:19:48 No. It's this. You know what's closely going to beat this out? What? Her getting fucked on a desk in House of Gucci. But no, that's not the one. That can never be. This is, your Lebanese or Orient is the one.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Can I say, we need the Lady Gaga era's tour. And it has to include film. It has to include film. She has to figure that out. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen for sure. I wonder if when Joker Folia comes out that it's just gonna blow this whole list away. I mean, that all top
Starting point is 00:20:21 10 entries will be from Joker Folia. I can't believe. I cannot believe. all top 10 entries will be from Joker Folietta. I can't believe, I cannot believe I have to see that. Oh my god. We're gonna love it. Are you kidding me? I guess it's the most violent film of all time.
Starting point is 00:20:38 That's what they were saying? They were like, someone saw the script and was like, I don't know how they're gonna make this it on paper is the most violent film of all time i can't wait it's so gaga i love it this is why numbers your lebanese your orient by lady gaga is number seven on Top 10 Demon Moments. Lost Cult. Number six. Thank God for this. One-handed cartwheel on today's show.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Fergie. First of all, why was she singing Barracuda? Why was she singing that song? She wanted to. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter why. That moment was post-reason, post-thought.
Starting point is 00:21:28 You can't think about it too long because it will not make sense. You're right. I flopped even suggesting we shouldn't think about it. I feel like the one-handed cartwheel during the song Ul Berukuda on the Today Show, which famously takes place so early in the morning, to think about how early the rehearsals had to be, I wonder if this was a spontaneous one-handed cartwheeler
Starting point is 00:21:52 or if it was planned. I think it could go either way. It could go either. It's Fergie, and Fergie acts on instinct, and that's why we love her. This woman released the single London Bridge, where the cover was her standing in front of Tower Bridge, not London Bridge.
Starting point is 00:22:09 This woman doesn't care. This woman does what she wants, and that's why we love her. She said, you know what I have to say? I survived a meth addiction, okay? I have been to hell and back. I'm going to stand in front of Tower Bridge and say, lundy, lundy, lundy.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. And if anyone says anything to her, it's kind of like, shut up. Because let me also point you in another direction, which didn't make the list because this is on the list. But her performance of Be Italian in the film Nine was deserving of the Oscar win.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Period. Period. Period. Point blank. Now, this one-handed cartwheel, we still talk about it today. What else is there to say? I mean, this was before Pink was on her silks.
Starting point is 00:22:55 This was a pop star doing full gymnastics while giving you a vocal. This opened the door. It did. It opened the door so wide because the door needed to be so wide for a cannon to fit through it so that Pink could be shot out of it. And let me tell
Starting point is 00:23:14 you something. There's no Pink without Fergie. And I say this knowing full well that Pink started before her. I think Fergie altered Pink's trajectory. You know who's not on the list? Pink. And that's,
Starting point is 00:23:29 and that might be something that I reconsider, because we love Pink here. Pink is honorable mention for getting shot into the sky during the song So What during her recent arena tour. But when there's moments like this on the list, it's going to be very hard to break through. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:45 This is a very competitive list. This was morning culture. Like mornings weren't the same after this. Like forget about morning show culture. Forget about performance culture. This changed the way people wake up because Fergie was saying, I woke up and got together a performance
Starting point is 00:23:58 where I did a one-hander carwell to a song, not even on my album. She was able to take the spotlight away from people like Matt Lauer, Katie Couric, maybe Meredith Vieira. I'm not sure when this happened. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:24:13 It had nothing to do with the people on the show. This is what every artist who does the Today Show dreams of, which is to create a moment that is actually impressive. It's not like Hilary Duff doing little dance moves with her arms on the Today Show.
Starting point is 00:24:30 It's pure talent. I'm sorry. This is pure talent. No one else could do that but Fergie. But Stacey. By the time this episode comes out, we'll have performed on the Today Show. And I can guarantee you neither of us did a one-handed
Starting point is 00:24:45 car no we are not diva enough no that no that we did not do it all right that is all why one-handed cartwheel on today's show by fergie is number six on the top 10 diva moments, Lost Gulch. Here's a callback. Number five. Where are my background singers? Patti LaBelle. I mean, I was cackling just thinking about this the other day. A moment of pure joy. I don't know the song! I don't know the song! Where are the cards?
Starting point is 00:25:17 You gotta keep going with the cards! Next card! Next card! Next card! I mean... Pure panic. She did not know the song this Christmas. This is a moment of pure panic
Starting point is 00:25:34 that is immediately landing as pure joy to the audience. I feel sorry for whatever Patty Miss Labelle was feeling in that moment. She must have felt very disoriented and embarrassed. But wow, all these years later, she is bringing joy to the hearts of the world
Starting point is 00:25:51 with that performance. I hope she's proud now and thinks of it as a funny thing. I don't know, but I really hope that she can see humor in Where's My Background Singers because unfortunately it is the moment in her illustrious career that has landed her on this list and probably others. Probably others.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Listen, she has had an amazing career, but the diva moment is this. Is yelling on the mic in our nation's capital for a Christmas celebration screaming where the background singers are. Where are they?
Starting point is 00:26:25 This is div TV behavior. And they hit. It also, you know what's crazy is like, they didn't even come on right away. No, she was right. Yeah. What were you going to say? It took them a while to get out there.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Where were the background singers? Did we ever get the answer to that question? Where were they? And I got to say the way, and I love background singers. Love. So gifted. So gifted. They showed up and they were trying to play it off as if nothing happened.
Starting point is 00:26:51 But at that point, you gotta be a little... You gotta look a little guilty for coming on so egregiously late. For Patti LaBelle! Honestly, I hope they heard an earful. Yes. What do you think they were doing? I bet they were smoking hookah. You think they were smoking hookah
Starting point is 00:27:06 on Christmas at the Capitol? On Christmas at the Capitol. I bet someone brought a hookah backstage and they were gathered around the hookah. Why else would they be late? Oh my god. They were smoking, sharing something. You know what? That's the only excuse.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Maybe if they were smoking some hookah at the Capitol, then I could respect it because that would be the equivalent of them driving the wrong way on the freeway because you know like hilarious style yes okay hookah at the capital on christmas and that's why you're late for patty labelle the one song you have to do forget about the fact that hang all the mistletoe i'm gonna get to know you better What I loved was just when she started belting and guessing, riffing at the song. Honestly, clocking in an iconic rendition. Oh, I mean, I will always remember the melody of I'm gonna add the bow I can
Starting point is 00:27:58 Cause I don't know the words and I don't have my background singers joyful joyful I will add them all again I mean that is iconic
Starting point is 00:28:17 Patty thank you oh man and this is why thank you for making it seasonal um this is why that where my background singers is number. This is why that Where Am I Background Singers is number five.
Starting point is 00:28:28 That's Patti LaBelle on the list of top 10 diva moments. Lost Couch. Number four. Singing. Singing. Whitney Houston. The Gift. The Gift.
Starting point is 00:28:40 And, you know, obviously there are a lot of spoken moments from Whitney that are iconic, but none of them are why we love her. None of them are why she is a diva. She's a diva because she is one of the best recording artists of all time. We could have said when she sang,
Starting point is 00:28:58 we could have said when she said, I listen to singers. I very rarely listen to people who cannot sing. We could have, you know, I was thinking about putting on here. Why are you down there to Brandy? But none of these really get it across, which is the reason why she's able to say all these things and do all these things is connected to her own singing. So it will be actually disrespectful disrespectful and this has been so far a list of great respect a great respect to say that the number one thing we love about her is
Starting point is 00:29:33 anything other than singing okay oh i mean she is purely evocative if you say the words singing you think whitney you think whitney if you hear though if you say the words singing, you think Whitney. You think Whitney. If you say the words and I, you think about Whitney. If you say the words, I believe the children, you're going to finish that thought. Our future. Our future. Teach them well and let them lead the way.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Speaking of the greatest love of all, that music video of her just walking, just coming down the fire escape, I said, that is beauty. That is art. She is brimming with the spirit of... Star quality. Star quality, the spirit of creativity,
Starting point is 00:30:23 of just expression. I just, that is perfect. Whitney Houston, we love you. We love you, Whitney. We will always remember you. We will always have the music. I was with you the night that she died. Oh, God, where were we?
Starting point is 00:30:37 It was at Skidmore again. Oh, my God, you're right. Was it that year? February 2012 was when she passed away. Oh, you know what? I didn't go to Skidmore that year. You didn't go that year february 2012 was when she passed away oh you know what i didn't go to skidmore that year and you know what that actually really makes me remember something which is i was doing marat sadh we had performances i was in a musical at nyu called marat sadh it was a punk rock musical interpretation of the play the assassination of marat by
Starting point is 00:31:02 yeah the marquis de sadh and Yeah. The Marquis de Sade. And the assistant director looked at all of us before and said, do this one for Whitney. Ah! And we all understood, like, that we would do it for Whitney, but we also laughed.
Starting point is 00:31:19 That reminds me of not to bring up another death and not to, I just, not to relate this, but I had a story pirate show the day that Robin Williams passed away and I think someone said let's do this for Robin you know we say such sentimental
Starting point is 00:31:37 silly things upon a upon an icon's passing but that's okay that is okay because guess what? I bet a little part of you did do it for Robin, and I know a little part of me did it for Whitney. Oh, I know you did. Just like a little part of us
Starting point is 00:31:51 are doing this for Whitney right now. And all this is why. Whitney Houston is number four on the top 10 diva moments last coach for her singing. For her singing for her singing the real housewives of Salt Lake City are back
Starting point is 00:32:14 I love that oh my gosh welcome and last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg you're recording us? I am disgusted. Never in a million years after everything we've been through
Starting point is 00:32:28 did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy. We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo, or stream it on City TV+. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose.
Starting point is 00:32:44 My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer, and the desperate part, that made a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. body image and huge life transformations. accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one.
Starting point is 00:33:42 On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Number three. I don't know her. Mariah Carey. So whereas Whitney, of course, we have to, because it would be disrespectful to not first and foremost, we've boiled Mariah down to I don't know her.
Starting point is 00:35:01 For good reason. Because especially upon reading the meaning of Mariah Carey, this moment makes total sense now. It actually speaks to Mariah's relationship to her work. She cares about the way the work comes
Starting point is 00:35:18 together and when the work gets taken away from her and given to someone else, maybe Jennifer Lopez, then she acts out in her diva way that we all know and love her for. First of all, you don't get to be a bigger lamb than me. I'm in the lambily firmly and forever. And I have a poster in my apartment that says, I don't know her, in Mariah Carey, an iconic butterfly font. And would say that like it does give me the essence of mariah and that it is superior because she is and it also does something for me every day where i say i don't
Starting point is 00:35:51 know her like anyone who is in my shit anyone who is trying to be in my image anyone who's trying to fuck with me anyone who's anyone who's who's managed by my ex-husband? I don't know her. I don't know her. Tommy Mottola found dead. I mean, so did you ever see the Watch What Happens Live where they played a game with Mariah called Does She Know Her? Yes. And then Mariah had the funniest little quip. She said, well, apparently I'm very forgetful. Well, apparently I'm very forgetful.
Starting point is 00:36:23 So funny. And then they said, Demi Lovato had something to say about how nasty Mariah is to Jennifer Lopez. And Mariah said, I don't know her either. I'm sure she doesn't. And then she said, if she has a problem,
Starting point is 00:36:37 she can come up to me like a woman and she could say, I have a problem. Here's what I think. That's how you handle shit. And you know that Demi Lovato was found dead when she heard that. I mean, Demi couldn't punch her way out of that one i'm sorry to say i'm gonna beat this bitch up i'm gonna beat this bitch up and i don't know her i mean it is
Starting point is 00:37:00 it is the perfect way to like let something slide off just to be like this doesn't belong to me this person this person i'm not responsible to i'm not responsible for commenting on her i don't know her i literally don't know her it's so powerful any of the mess you're talking about with like what they might have said about me i don't know Period. I don't have knowledge of the personhood. I don't have knowledge of the personhood of this individual. I don't know her. Cut. Cut.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Cut. Thank you, Mariah, for giving us that. And of course, your incredible singing and songwriting prowess is legendary. But you are mostly for words. I don't know her. And that is why you rank at number three. I don't know her, Mariah, on top ten diva moments. Lost
Starting point is 00:37:47 cult. Speaking of things people said out serving their singing talent. Number two. Okay. Great gowns. Beautiful gowns. Aretha. Aretha. I mean, this is a hilarious
Starting point is 00:38:02 thing to say about our current reigning pop icon, the Beatles of our generation. Taylor. Taylor. And she said, after probably the fourth person that she had been asked about,
Starting point is 00:38:16 and even Alicia Keys got, good writer, young producer. Taylor got, okay, great gown. Beautiful gown. I think maybe, I think Taylor keeps her ear to the ground. And I think maybe this was something that sprung
Starting point is 00:38:36 her into, you always need an I'll show them attitude in showbiz, don't you? And that was Taylor Swift's Don't Blame Me. Yes. She said, oh, she has something to say about my singing? Get in the studio, we're recording Don't Blame Me.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Don't blame me, love made me crazy. Doesn't you ain't doing it right? And I will say that Aretha would be so shook to hear that we're complimenting Taylor's vocals in a thing where she said, okay, great gowns, beautiful gowns, so let's just go back. Doin' it right. Doin' it right.
Starting point is 00:39:12 It's a great song. Oh, take me my dress. My baby, I'll be usin' all the rest of my life. Oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh. I mean, she goes hard. Reputation. I mean she goes hard reputation I mean we're talking
Starting point is 00:39:27 about reputation on an Aretha Franklin entry okay I mean Aretha we obviously know the vocal prowess but this was one of her last great contributions to the culture great gowns beautiful gowns I mean the whole thing is funny
Starting point is 00:39:44 maybe even good writer young producer might be funnier than gown. Great gowns, beautiful gowns. I mean, the whole thing is funny. Maybe even good writer, young producer might be funnier than gowns, beautiful gowns. And then of course, Nicki Minaj. Hmm, Nicki Minaj. I'm gonna pass on that one. Thank you, Aretha, for your countless contributions. And this might be some recency bias, but we are putting okay, great gowns, beautiful gowns as number two on this list of the top 10 diva moments.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Lost Coach, number one. Good luck booking that stage you speak of. Our greatest comedian. One of the funniest comics. I think that when Ciara tried to come for Rihanna and said she was rude in an event and Rihanna responded on Twitter my bad seed that I forget to tip you
Starting point is 00:40:34 at a restaurant. And Ciara said, honey, I have no time for this. I'm about to go on stage. And Rihanna killed her dead. What did you do? What was it? What was it? You say. I think Ciara said, I'm sorry to? You say. I think Ciara said, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:40:46 I'm sorry to correct you. But I think Ciara said, trust me, Rihanna, you don't want to see me on or off stage. Which then prompted Rihanna to say, good luck with booking that stage. You speak of. You speak of.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Good luck with booking that stage, you speak of. It's the you speak of that's really the perfect little ornament. You know, I saw Rihanna at a restaurant and she was very rude. My bad, Steve. Did I forget to tip you? Trust me, you
Starting point is 00:41:15 don't want to see me on or off stage. Good luck with booking that stage you speak of. I mean, you have a death wish if you want to step to rihanna if you don't want that smoke it's a billion dollars a blunt and a twitter login and it's death to all of them in the words of wendy okay i mean k-o-k- KO it's over knockout
Starting point is 00:41:46 total total KO I think this is a worthy spot for number one I really do because you and I think about this all the time
Starting point is 00:41:54 you won't see me arguing against a single choice on this list and not this this does not end here I would say this was the moment
Starting point is 00:42:02 that defined a generation this was this was the spoken that defined a generation. This was the spoken equivalent of Rihanna's Loud album. Yes, her most experimental spoken word. This was... This opened the door.
Starting point is 00:42:19 This opened the door to Rihanna as a mogul. I think this is one of the only moments that was played out on Twitter. And that is interesting as well. Like, this was all, this is very 2010s coded. Yes, it was. And also, like, we should have known we were flying too close to the sun right there. Because, like, it was over after this.
Starting point is 00:42:38 I mean, Twitter slowly started to become worse and worse. Like, this was the peak of Twitter. This was not knowing the good times are rolling while they're rolling. You know what I mean? Period. We were spoiled for iconography. Spoiled for iconography. I love everyone who follows the Lost Culture Twitter and who interacts and engages with us
Starting point is 00:42:55 on the Lost Culture side. Overall, I would say it is just 4chan now, that site. It's bad. I was wondering the other day, I was sort of psychically asking you um without directly asking you i was like i wonder how much longer we keep the twitter because it feels like it's i think it's done i think it's over like really i know we've been saying this for years but like i think five of the last nails in the cop and we're we're we're
Starting point is 00:43:22 slammed into it at the same time in the last like a month or so anyway yeah yeah but i mean and here we are saying that i mean i think one of the most important inventions electronically and technically and socially was twitter of the past you know 50 years and the peak of it was what rihanna said that landed her at number one on this list of top 10 diva moments lost coach well i think this was a very comprehensive list we there were some missing entries i think pink as we've said i think we were missing a kelly clarkson moment i think what would that have been i think it would would have been her winning a moment like a winning american idol winning a moment like this winning american idol i think we missed um something from hillary
Starting point is 00:44:12 duff from miley cyrus nikki minaj um did you see miley cyrus through her own birthday party and her birthday party was she finally sang flowers live to her friends and family She said my birthday party was me singing my own songs and I said you better fucking go off You better go off good for you my legend. Yeah legend But she did not make the list and that doesn't mean she can't make the list doesn't mean that you know Miley hasn't you know done many things but this list was comprehensive and it's complete. And I give it to my sister who put this one together. I merely made one contribution, which was
Starting point is 00:44:50 Divas Live at number 8. You really ate this down. Diva moment. You drove the other way on the freeway with this one, bitch. Thank you, Diva. So did you. You were at the wheel. Now... Jesus, take it. Jesus, take it. Carrie Underwood also missing. Now, we hope to provide you some more lists in the new year, but now Jesus take it Jesus take it Carrie Underwood also missing now
Starting point is 00:45:05 we hope to provide you some more lists in the new year but for now enjoy the ones that we've given you there's a lot of great stuff in there
Starting point is 00:45:13 and we hope you learn we hope you listen learn and elucidate elucidate what's that word that's a good word it means
Starting point is 00:45:20 shed light thank you everyone for listening goodbye It means shed light. Thank you everyone for listening. Goodbye. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story
Starting point is 00:45:41 from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. I was a desperate delusional dreamer. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Or stay with his relatives in Miami? Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. And we are super excited to tell you about our new show, Dudes on Dudes. We're spilling all the behind-the-scenes stories, crazy details, and honestly, just having a blast talking football.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Every week, we're discussing our favorite players of all times, from legends to our buddies to current stars. We're finally answering the age-old question, what kind of dudes are these dudes? We're gonna find out Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to dudes on dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever
Starting point is 00:47:13 you get your podcasts.

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