Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - “They Couldn’t Be Nicer Boys” (w/ Seth Meyers)

Episode Date: November 22, 2023

Surprise, our best late night host also happens to be a perfect podcast guest? And speaking of surprises, Matt surprises Bow with his favorite Percy Pigs (sourced by the angelic Emily Phillips!) and it’s off to the races! From unique “A” names to 5am gambling, Seth docks into a wide berth of topics with the boys. Listen with misty eyes as they discuss the Hard Rock Hotel in Tampa, that feeling when you crush a character set at 24 years old, and finally(!) getting on board with listening at 1.75x speed. Plus the metacomedy of “May December” at upcoming awards shows and the enduring beauty of “My Best Friend’s Wedding.” Listen for Seth’s impeccable Garry Marshall impression and won’t you try and guess which acclaimed actresses are obsessed with falling into pools and jumping on the bed as scene pitches? In any case, Seth Meyers really is the best, and the boys are very very excited to chat with him. Listen to “Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers” wherever you get your podcasts! Bonus episodes are available early for subscribers to Big Money Players Diamond on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/lasculturistas.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture yes goodness wow ding dong i have a gift for bowen this i've been waiting to hear what sound you're gonna yes it is oh my god mary percy miss i had no idea what this reveal was going to be. But you. But then it's. I think I heard like the crinkling. Oh, fuck. This is the M&S.

I crinkled as I came in, everybody. Oh, my God. My favorite. I know. Well, actually. So they're actually from Zayn Phillips' sister, Emily. Emily. Who came to the show.

And she brought two bags of Percy Pigs. Shout out. Because. Explain. Percy Pigs. I didn't. I don't think so. Honey, Percy Pigs.

That was kind of a fake out because I was like, I don't think so, honey, that they are exclusively available at M&S, which is this like food chain in the UK. But God, they're my favorite candy. They're so good. Limited edition. These are limited edition.

Wait, vegan? They're all vegan. Oh, I didn't know that. Everything vegan. Candy in Europe is... That girl. The candy technology there is cutting edge. They pump our shit with like...

Chemicals. They're trying to kill us. They're trying to kill us. Did you hear that? The government is actually trying to kill us all. How do you mean? Well, I can't get into it because they're coming. You know, our guest came in with the Secret Service.

Those are the lovely folks at security at NBC. I know those men well. Are you at the NBC level where... I don't get a little phalanx, but I get... So you're vulnerable out there? But I say hi to the guys every day that I'm on air. Do they give this? Because I can't describe the energy more than...

No, they know they're talking to a foppish fellow and they go hey bowen how are you yeah they're they're very they soften up a little bit they're not fellow you are i'm a fop you're one of the foppish girls of nbc so are you guys all in a group text like lauren's boys lauren's guys that's what we call it yeah lauren's guys laurenette laurenette laurenette are me and the security people on 8. Do people know about the Lorneettes? Like the actual Lorneettes? Yeah.

Yeah, I think so. They've been documented. Okay, there needs to be a documentary about the Lorneettes. Do you think it's fine if I talk about the Lorneettes? I would be glancing in your description of the Lorneettes. The Lorneettes are the people who make the popcorn, essentially. Great, love that. Let's keep it there. Let the people who make the popcorn, essentially. Great. Love that.

Let's keep it there. Let's keep it there. Wow. That's true. You have to be a little bit more specific now that I've made it sound like it. No, no. They're all lovely people. And actually, one of the lornets, Karina, helped out on the Culture Awards this summer. Yes, she did.

I love that lornet. She's more than a lornet. She's a wonderful... More than a lornet. More than a lornet. That's beautiful. Anyway. That should be the title of all their books. She's a wonderful... More Than a Lornette. More Than a Lornette. That's beautiful. Anyway. That should be the title of all their books.

She's a Mornette. She's a Mornette. So the reason why this is so exciting is because I was in London and I want to shout out London in a couple of things I did there. I saw Nicole Scherzinger in Sunset Boulevard. This has to be seen.

And I'm not just saying this because I'm one of the gayest people in the world. No. This is one of the stunning performances of our time. You can't believe how crazy it is. I mean, it's unreal. Nicole Scherzinger can do Sunset Boulevard. Glenn Close could not sing buttons or react. No. And that's a rule of culture. That's a rule of culture number 76. Nicole Scherzinger can do Sunset Boulevard but Glenn Close cannot do Buttons and React

now I think that the fact that we're sort of like in this deep of gay culture talking about Buttons and React Sunset Boulevard I'm wondering if our guest knows about Buttons and React I think he does

this is a group of words Buttons, React, Beep. I wonder if we were to say, this is a group of words, buttons, react, beep. I would wonder if he could describe... PCD. Do you know what those are? I am so in the weeds. Yeah. And you're not introduced yet,

so there are no more yet. But he's in the weeds so far. What we're talking about is Pussycat Doll's song titles. Excellent. I mean, I think I could have based... I did know that about Nicole Scherzinger. Yeah, yeah. Maybe I could have got there. Has she been on the show? She is... Oh, boy. I feel

like she's a fox girlie with the Masked Singer and I feel like they're telling her, if you go on Seth, you're done. You're done. You're done, Nicole. You're done, Nicole. And already it's tough. Hey. No, I'm saying the UK embraces her. In the UK, Nicole Scherzinger Is Celine Dion

You come to the US You can't even get on the show That's not true She's a very successful Entertainer Nicole Scherzinger For the pod For Lost Colossus

Oh Nicole We would love to have you on Started here Because I think That's going to transfer To Broadway And every gay person And theater lover

Yes Should go see this That Venn diagram Is a circle. Speaking of theater, you saw Spamalot last night. I saw Spamalot last night. So funny. Excellent performances all around. Well, it's Broadway.

I think Stupid is back. Stupid shit is back. Also, just watching Spamalot and me going, I know. It was my first time seeing the actual show, but I was like, I know Monty Python and the Holy Grail like the back of my damn hand. Would you say that's one of the cultures

that made you say culture was for you? It is definitely one of the cultures. Because I actually just read in it from the library on my own accord when I was like nine. You looked at the cover and said, that looks like fun comedy and something I'll enjoy. And just the opening title cards of like, that person has been sacked

and the person who sacked that person has been sacked. I was like, what am I watching and then the end of that movie I'm gonna spoil it everyone gets there's this huge scene and then and then the cops

come and arrest everybody it's one of the best comedy endings ever of a film I would say huge and I want to throw it over to our guest

because I think he's a he's an expert in comedy I would say that wouldn't you say so not only would I say that not only would I say expert in comedy I would an expert in comedy. I would say that. Wouldn't you say so? Not only would I say that. Not only would I say expert in comedy, I would say expert in kindness. In kindness. I would say expert in professionalism.

In family. I would say in family. I would say this man has one of the best reputations in the business. And guess what? A lot of people talking and talking the truth. And the truth they always say about this guy, lovely, gracious. Everyone at the place he works, late night with Seth Meyers,

says, I've been here for a long time and I will stay here for a long time. Thank God he puts a roof over one of our good friend's house. Henry Melcher. A roof over his house. Henry Melcher. Henry Melcher.

And Archie and Hugo. Oh, the babies. The babies. That makes it sound like I only pay enough to put a roof on. Well. And just for roofing. Just, the babies. The babies. That makes it sound like I only pay enough to put a roof on. Well. And just for roofing. Just for roofing?

We re-roofed Henry's house. That's so nice of you. The plumbing there is terrible, but there's a roof. You know him as the star of New Year's Eve. Oh, thank you. And the co-host

of the Strike Force 5 podcast. And Family Trips with the Myers Brothers. Family Trips with the Myers Brothers. He's also the host of Late Night with Seth Meyers. You know him from Saturday Night Live.

Many, many, many years doing the thing over there. And you know something about that. This is a grid day. This is a grid day. Did I say grid? I think so. That was very Lindsay Lohan of me. Started to say good, started to say great.

Definitely. But let's just bring him in, shall we? Everyone welcome Seth Meyers. Now speak. I'm so happy to be here. I mean, come on. First of. But let's just bring them in. Ciao. Everyone welcome. Seth Meyers! Now speak. I'm so happy to be here. I mean, come on. So first of all, let me just say, you said a very, you were on the show. Yeah.

Second time. Yeah. Fantastic. So funny. You were great the first time. Thank you so much. Would you not agree? I think there was a level of comfort between both of us.

We know each other a little bit better. I think the second time was a home run. It really was. And I had left really happy about the first time. And then the second time, I was like, that, that was how you want to do it. Yes. It felt a little bit less hewn to maybe the pre-interview. Exactly.

You know, everything was a bit more free and loose. I think that was my first ever talk show by myself. That's not true. Oh, Seth, but the first time you went on set. The first time I went on your show was the first time I was ever like, and please welcome. And you come out and do the thing where, and no one ever talks about the sort of headiness about walking out when the doors come

and then you have to do your walkout. It's sort of like, what? What's my walkout like? What's my thing? It's funny because I, well, every now and then I'll just pop downstairs. You would think this is the easiest possible talk show appearance.

I pop downstairs to do Fallon. Yeah. And I'm backstage, and I have such an appreciation. This is, being a guest easiest possible talk show appearance. I popped downstairs to do Fallon. Yeah. And I'm backstage, and I have such an appreciation. This is, being a guest on a talk show is so much harder than hosting a talk show. And how do you,

yeah, describe that. Because you host it, you get to do it every day. And you just slowly, over the course of time, like waves lapping into the shore, you become comfortable with it. And the show becomes yours.

But even backstage at Fallon, which I've probably done 15 times, the stage where I'd be like, and remember you walk out and turn right. And I go, turn right? Like, I know. Like, it's not like I'm going to walk out and walk straight to the roots. I will find the desk. But you're backstage in the dark and you really do start to spin out about the idea that you are now going to perform the idea of being a guest.

Yes. That is a thing because there's also been at least two hellos beforehand. There's been a conversation beforehand. And you have to, the artifice of a greeting is tough. The artifice of a greeting. That's a great memoir title.

It's interesting. I like to say during an interview sometime, we were talking backstage. Yes. Because I don't, I won't artifice a greeting. Although it's interesting,

neither will David Letterman and he would not come and say hello before a show. Oh, really? And when he's, the neither will David Letterman and he would not come and say hello before a show. Oh, really? And when he's, the two times he's been a guest on my show,

he has asked that I don't say hello before the show very politely because he likes the hello to be, the real hello to be on camera.

Organic. And they always are. They always are. Hold on. This is not my I Don't Think So Honey, but Worldwide Pants took down every single

Letterman clip from YouTube wait really? I thought they just launched a new YouTube channel oh yeah they have their own thing now they have a they have a whole like

encyclopedic catalog don't worry thank god because I'm like how am I going to get my Amy Sedaris fix I know from those episodes

oh yeah yeah you know what I mean do you have a favorite guest? I will say I think we've become a nice post Letterman home for Amy Sedaris I was just will say, I think we've become a nice post-Letterman home for Amy's hair. I was just going to say,

I think you're the new... You know, I think they kind of all get sort of doled out. Yeah. A draft of sorts where each of us sort of ends up.

And I think Amy, even though Amy and Colbert have long history and they're dear friends, I think she likes who she gets to be on our show. Colbert can't be like the... There was something about her and Letterman

where it was like, it's just this guy letting her go. And then with Colbert, there's so much history there that it's like... Documented familiarity. Right? But it's just like two friends talking, which is not why you watch Amy Sedaris go off. Yeah. It's weird. I had to find

a way to interview friends because I, early on in the show, underestimated how prep does help with these things and I would say,

oh, Bill's coming on, Wig's coming on, how could it be bad? And then halfway through it I'd realize, oh, this is a little bad. You think so? I think,

but we've found, I've gotten better at it. Like, you can't just completely rest on the idea that we will, because we're old friends, we are going to have an interesting conversation. Because sometimes the thing about friends is you're enjoying the conversation even when it's not interesting.

And when a lot of people that don't share that history are in the audience watching, they need a few more sort of like touch points where they can lock into the story. Right. What about family though? Like let's say like Thanksgiving, you bring Josh and the parents. It's the most stressed out I am all year. And by the way, I think it always works out great. My parents are wonderful on the show.

My brother's wonderful on the show. But everybody has been saying this week, oh, we forget this is the only week of the year where Seth is on edge. Wow. Now, is that also to do with the fact that you don't want to put anyone in your family in a position where they feel like fucking on edge on air yes I want to take care

of my parents got it I want to take care of my brother I also don't ever want us to be on TV like aren't we just the best

aren't we a darling family you know you want to like bring it every time like I want my family is fun on a talk show because my family is funny and so I want to put them

in a position to be funny as opposed to just look at us isn't it grand that we're this close? That's like on the surface, it seems, and I'm not saying this is what it is, but it just, it would read as presumptuous to be like, I'm going to bring my parents and my brother on my show.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And look how charming we are. I think my mother, if she ever came on this podcast, my mother has sort of a catchphrase that she thinks works all the time, but only works sometimes. So I told a story one time about how she was at the beach. She called me because she had been at the beach. My parents were at the beach.

And a seagull came and stole her sandwich out of her hand. And she said, damn bird. And so people love that she said, damn bird, because she also typed it out on text like D-A-M-M. D-A-M-M. So now whenever anyone is posting or whatever, I see her way in online she'll just say, LOL this is so funny damn bird. She'll just throw it in there.

And now how old was she when this happened? What age did she add a catchphrase to a repertoire? She must have been like 55. 55? Yeah. That's very late breaking to add a catchphrase. I know but like damn bird has really like been a huge thing. I said she should make shirts.

She should make shirts. I think more people would buy her merch than like a merch that says like Las Culturistas. Certainly. She's got a huge, she's sitting on a gold mine. Dan Bird with two M's is a very funny shirt. It's so funny. And like with a little bird on the corner holding a bagel. I mean, come on.

We, my son Axel when he was three was running down a beach holding a bagel in his, above come on. We, my son, Axel, when he was three, was running down a beach holding a bagel above his head and in the best mood and a bird came down like it was a circus act where a boy ran across the, you know, the big top and a bird flew down and grabbed the bagel and it was, other than the fact that he was

crying, it's the most I ever wanted to jump to my feet and applaud. Did you tell him that in years he's going to be laughing? I'm like, this is a good story. This is a good one. That bird took that big old, that damn bird. He might actually, I might offer him damn bird with an MN because that's available and he could take damn

bird. Wait, Axel is the coolest fucking name for a kid. And I wasn't on board from the beginning. Really? I love it and he's an Axel and I give my wife all the credit in the world. But I didn't, it felt a little, it felt like a bigger swing than it's ended up being. Okay.

Can I tell you, because we then, so we have A names. Ash, which is my wife's maiden name, is our first. Oh, love that. A-S-H-E, then Axel. And then our daughter is Adelaide, which is my grandmother's name. Now, if the third had been a boy,

my wife had an A name picked out that I was very, I was going to fight hard. You were on edge. Yes. Give me your instant reactions. We will. Atlas. Okay, thank you.

Okay, yeah, wow. We both were hesitant on that one. Real good. What was the, what's the sentiment of that name? I think uniqueness. I think that we live in an era where a lot of the unique a names have now become very commonplace it was hard to find you know it's at some point even like archer i feel like my kids have been already been in a class where there's like archer b and archer j you know

because they've got a couple right i'm sorry you know what i'm coming around to it i think it's like houdini by doa li. I think it's like Houdini by Dua Lipa. I think it's a grower. No, I thought of Miss Rand as soon as I heard that name. For sure. I think that that's going to happen.

But Atlas Myers, like, I'm sorry. That's a very powerful high schooler. That is not a nerd. I'm telling you, and I hate saying this, but that person crushes it. Yes.

The risk, of course, is you end up with like an ironic Atlas. You know, you end up with a high schooler who is not. Yes. The risk, of course, is you end up with like an ironic Atlas. You know, you end up with a high schooler who is not. Yeah. The funny thing is,

I was like, well, you want an A name. And so if it's a boy, it's Atlas. And if it's a girl, it's going to be Anne. And then you would have AYN. And that would tell you

everything about our family. Of course. Oh, interesting. But I think that the unique A name that kicked this all off for the culture, you know,

Miss Apple Martin. Oh, Apple Martin. I think I've never adjusted to Apple Martin. She certainly has. She seems to be loving life. How old is Apple Martin?

I think she's like at least 18. She's an adult. Yeah, I think she's going to become a model. That's the rumor I heard on the street. Word on the street was that Apple she's going to become a model. That's the rumor I heard on the street. Word on the street

was that Apple Martin was going to become a model, which is like, yeah, sure. Sure. You know what I mean? For sure. That would have been one of those things

if you could have bet on it early. Yeah. The odds would have been terrible. 100%. Like bet 100 to win like 750. Come on, Vegas.

Are you a gambler? I will gamble a little. Yeah, that's a hard yes. It's not I will gamble. It's a yes. I mean, so when I go to Vegas, I will get a little intimidated by craps, but that is by far the most fun one.

Yes. If I can go with a couple people who know it, that is the most fun to do. Blackjack, I just become a little, to be good at blackjack, you have to be patient. Yes. When I go to,

in the last sort of decade when I'm in Vegas it's usually because I did a show and I don't have a lot of time and so if I only have an hour it just feels like I get a little antsy

and I play right into the casino's hands yeah it really is true I was just in Vegas and like I've been to Vegas where the table was hot

you really can feel that like when the table's hot and things are going good you feel like oh there's no way I could ever sit down and play this game and not be good. And then the last time I was there, the table was ice cold. I was bad.

Every single hand was bad. And you're like, I will never do this again. But there's something addictive about that. And there's something very real and tangible about the feeling of I'm hot or I'm like dead. Yes. But because you're sure that it can turn at any given moment and sometimes it doesn't. This is what I'm saying, though.

It's like I'll sit down and I'll play like, play a bad hand. Is that what they'd say? Yeah. And sure. And I'll be like, oh, it's bad for the rest of the night. And then it is. And then sometimes it's good. And the steak is on me actually

you'll see me in Alexander McQueen now this is the very depressing gambling summer I had because when the strike happened I tried to book stand-up shows it was very hard to book maybe the ideal places because a lot of people are on the road

a lot of those theaters I had a three-day stint where I did a casino in Hollywood, Florida then Tampa, Florida then Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. And all those places, even if people didn't maybe know me from my show or SNL, posters are up of you at the casinos because you're doing a show. And so you don't really want to go gamble as someone who, you know, they could recognize

on that. Sure, sure. So what I would, I would have to wake up so early to get to the airport for the next one that I would sort of sometimes go and like gamble at like 4.45 in the morning. Because it was, and that is. You see the way he cussed himself? I'm sorry. He believes you're indicative.

There's no one there. Like no, there's no happy gamblers at 4.45. Well, and not in Tampa, Florida. Not in Tampa, Florida. I know. Yeah. We say that with all love. With all love.

Do you get people in like Tampa, Florida who come up to you and say, hey, I see your show. Do you get ornery Tampa, Florida who come up to you and say, hey, I see your show. Do you get ordinary people? I don't. You know, I do think people at this point are smart enough to self-select. Got it. Yeah. I do get a little weird. I mean, I think weirdly the hard rock in Hollywood, Florida is the one that's shaped like a guitar. It's like crazy. We gotta go.

Three billion. That's right up our alley. I was a little disappointing. One thing is you hear it shaped like a guitar and you're like, that's so dumb. And then when you're driving in, you see it and you do have that kid moment of like, little disappointing one thing is you hear it shaped like a guitar and you're like that's so dumb and then when you're driving in you see it and you do have that kid moment of like oh my god

I'm gonna stay in a guitar yes we love that that's right up our alley yeah it's really kind of cool the neck of the guitar you wish was a little higher

obviously it doesn't make sense you're in a hurricane state so it it's only maybe like five or six frets up sure and then I think the idea is it's sort of

you're supposed to think it disappears into the clouds right yeah totally it's an upright guitar it's sort of, you're supposed to think it disappears into the clouds. Right. Yeah, totally. It's an upright guitar. It's an upright guitar. Okay. That's scary.

But that, I felt like that was real Trump country, but the kind of Trump country where they have money and they're totally fine to come to your show. Yeah. And not be, like, you know, like, wow, we all, I mean, isn't he a lot? They're like, yeah, he's yeah, he's really doing his thing. It was funny.

The rest of it was funny. But then when he got a little edgy, you know, we know. But anyway, you know, he also does good things. So like that's why. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, okay, here's my question. So you mentioned like looking at a guitar-shaped hotel and getting very excited.

Are you like us where you reap the NBC perks and by us, by me and Bowen, are you a theme theme park person where you go to Universal Studios and sort of kill it? I am waiting. The kids aren't quite there. Okay. But I will say I did not take advantage as an adult without children of the theme park world. We do it. Well, you know, why would you?

I had my theme park era years where I lived in Amsterdam for a couple years. I worked for the theater called Boom Chicago. And sort of middle of Holland there is this place called Efteling, which is for my money the best theme park in the world. And it's sort of fairytale themed and it's built in sort of a forest.

And that was, we would just go there on a bus and take hard drugs. And it was, to me I'd just be chasing that the rest of my life. would just go there on a bus and take hard drugs. Yes. And it was, to me, I kind of, I'd just be chasing that the rest of my life. Yeah. And I think that's what happened to us

because we, this was like pre- Anyone knowing who the fuck we were. That's the most important thing. So we went, that's really what ended up happening because we went, our friend Dave and us, we went to Universal and Disney World and he had made these, you know when someone makes weed food themselves

it's going to be a gnarly ride and you're really relevant guys so he had made these Rice Krispie treats that were loaded with THC and I'm telling you like we would take mouthfuls of this

and just be like unable to speak at Universal just exploring the world. You know what I mean? Immersing in these rides and like we were children. And now I don't think we can ever do that again because I don't think we'll ever ingest weed like that again

because they don't make it like that anymore. And we've already had that experience of being children and like re-childing ourselves. Yes. So now it's really bad. I will say the, if you veer into a bad trip, the last thing you want to be around

is a bunch of Dutch teenagers. Oh, you just, because all of a sudden that like, it really kills, just everything about it is so, there's, this hits this level of sort of melting grotesqueness.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah. Oh, that's horrifying. I think we've said publicly, it's a gross language. It doesn't really sound good to me. It doesn't hit the ear right. No. We just performed at Boom Chicago. We're a little mad

at them right now because they lost the audio of our Michelle Collins episode. We're a little mad at them right now, but it was a lovely experience performing there. We were there and I was like, oh wow, this was boom Chicago. Yes. It was a different physical space when I was there. But I performed in that.

I went back there for the 30th anniversary of the summer, which was cool. I mean, I think we missed each other by a day. Yes, we did. When we were there? No, when I was there, when I took a solo little trip there in July or something like that,

the talk of the town was, well, Seth Meyers was just here. And I said, oh, like his show was last night. Let me see if he's in town. And I, by the way, it was just to be, I was just texting you to be like, I heard you're in town. I'm just here by myself, just like wandering the canals.

Like if you're up to anything, let me know. And then you had obviously taken a flight out. I, we had, it was a very short visit. I would have been lovely to walk the canals. We would have just walked the canals. I think we would have walked the canals. I would have been lovely to walk the canals. We would have just walked the canals. I think we would have walked the canals.

I think we would have maybe stopped for a coffee. You know, canal side. Canal side coffee. Reisdoffel. We got Reisdoffel. You did. Did you enjoy your Reisdoffel?

I love Reisdoffel. I absolutely love Amsterdam. Walking the canals in the evening when there's no one there, it is quite peaceful. It really is. I realize I have

a problem with Amsterdam. What is it? It's my own personal problem. I find the nostalgia for the time I had there is oppressive. Because it was where things, it was that sense of beginning, which is an impossible thing to recreate. I was there with this exceptional group of people. And we all had this adventurous spirit of, let's go, move overseas, let's take. Yeah. And we were all had this adventurous spirit of let's go move overseas.

Let's take this chance. And we were doing great shows. And then one by one, we all started to, you know, find success outside of it. And that was all great. That was the plan. But, oh, it's impossible. And so sometimes I go back there and I walk these canals where even though, you know, everything that I could have possibly hoped would have happened for me has happened for me.

You still don't float the way you float when you're 24 and you just crushed an improv show. Isn't that interesting? It's so true. But we don't really experience that, I think, because we were coming up here. I experienced that after I left New York. So basically, I had this in New York City. It's very hard for me sometimes still to be around NYU in the Lower East Side and even around like UCB Chelsea and stuff like that like I had

left for five years and then came back and the pandemic had separated me from it and so I found like one night when I was walking around we just talked about this but I got really emotional just being like back in New York like looking at theaters that were there and aren't there anymore and like you know, because it's what you're saying. It's like, I remember like crushing a character set at UCB East and feeling like better than I do after I like release a fucking album or something.

You know what I mean? It's just, it's funny. One of the questions they ask is what would you tell yourself 10 years ago? What would you tell yourself 15 years ago? Just like enjoy it because those are such iconic, memorable, like is irrepeatable of words.

Like it could be, you can't repeat them. Well, also the crushing was the thing. Yeah. That's all it was. Like when you, when you mentioned like putting out an album,

you put it out and then you wait. Yeah. Right. But that instant reaction, like the goal you went out and you never thought tonight's the night someone from Amsterdam show business, Mr. Amsterdam

is going to be in the audience. So you never thought you were going to break on a night and it was just this. Also that wonderful thing and you guys obviously had it where succeeding

is part of a collective. Yes. Which happens a little bit at SNL but not really because there's never a night where everybody has a great night. Totally.

I know. That's such an interesting thing. I will say a nice way, looking back at my favorite era of SNL, I think we all look back at it like, look, we all crushed every week, even though we know we didn't. Yes. But we allow that to be the memory of it. Which was what era?

I think for me, it's... 36 to 37? 37 to 11? 2007, 2011. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course, of course. It's, I mean, that's greatest freshman class of all time. Andy and the Lonely Island guys. Absolutely.

Bill. Weeks at Acre's Bill. 100%. I mean, that alone. Yeah. That was really, really, really good. That was very special. Very special.

And weirdly enough, so we were freshmen in 2008. And what I would do every single weekend is I would go wait on the standby line. So I was out there. I was like a standby girl. Like I met Bobby Moynihan on the standby line. Bill Hader came out, I think so high. And said hello to us. That would be weird.

That is not my memory. He seemed weird. He seemed high. But it was Bill Hader. You know what I mean? And Bobby. And they were coming out to say hi to us and i remember i got in my first show was james franco and kings of leon which and i think i was just in shock the whole time and this was when tina was coming to do sarah yeah and sarah sarah balin um and then my i think second episode

was anne hathaway and the killers and this episode this episode was when Kristen did the Lawrence Welk show. And I was sitting there and I just thought this energy is so insane and so wild that it drove me for the rest of my life. And the other thing I remember, and this is you, was how fucking cool you were when you came out for weekend update and you gave all the interns high fives and everyone in the theater was like it's Seth Meyers you know what I mean you came out and like crush weekend update weekend update was incredible and I just remember your energy and your vibe and then meeting you years later I was like that totally tracks just from me like even seeing this man inhabit a space because you set the tone that was like the

best vibe. Thank you. I'm so happy you mentioned that show because we just had Anne Hathaway on. I can't even remember if I mentioned this on camera. It is the only time I remember when that show was over, the audience gave a standing ovation. It was amazing.

A standing ovation during Good Nights. And the Killers performed again. And the Killers performed again. And my parents were at that show was over, the audience gave a standing ovation. It was amazing. A standing ovation during Good Nights. And the Killers performed again. And the Killers performed again. Yeah. And my parents were at that show and I introduced my mom to the Killers. And as they walked away, she said very loud and they heard.

She goes, well, I don't know why they call themselves the Killers. They couldn't be nicer boys. Oh my God. That's so funny. That's her damper. They couldn't be nicer boys might be the title of that. That's her damper. They couldn't be nicer boys. Oh my God. That's so funny. That's her Danvers. They couldn't be nicer boys might be her Danvers. They couldn't be nicer boys.

Oh, that is so great. Also, though, I have a weird shame thing. And this is not being able to let go of a choice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. I don't think this mattered. We lost the Emmy all those years. And let me just say. So fucked up. That year, and that went, those Sarah Palin things, that is the most I ever felt like we were on a winning team.

Yes. It was white hot and having Tina back. And I felt like we understood we have to keep outdoing ourselves. And it was so thrilling and so fun. And that cast was coming into its own. And everybody walked out. You were excited to see. It was nuts.

Absolutely. It was great. At the end of the year, I remember as head writer, you get to pick a sketch to submit. I don't think it would have mattered, but I remember I didn't pick that one because Lorne thought,

he picked a different one, which was a worse show, but it was the one Sarah Palin was actually on. Right. Which was also incredible. It was a good, that moment was incredible. The rest of the show

was not as good. It was esoteric in a way. Whereas the Anne Hathaway show was just banger after banger. But it's so funny because I remember after we lost, I was like, it wouldn't have mattered.

I'll forget about this. Every time it comes up, I'm like, why didn't I pick that one? Wow. But no, I mean, I feel like Emmys and SNL

were in this, I mean, it still is Emmys and SNL were in this... I mean, it still is in this weird existential place now where they don't quite know what to do with the show or where to place it or how to categorize it. But back then, it was like, why wouldn't you nominate Kristen and Bill every single season? And Andy and Jason. That whole cast, why wouldn't you nominate all those people

in the same league as the sitcoms of that day? I just think, well, and I've said this to you and this is, it doesn't make sense to me that there's not a variety performance category because I think you would have an Emmy if there was. I'm just saying that. I mean,

like, I think it's weird to say, let's put these variety performers in with people that are playing characters with emotional arcs because actors, especially like we'll vote for that before they vote for. Always. Like some, I feel as though I, in with people that are playing characters with emotional arcs because actors especially will vote for that before they vote for I feel as though with Bowen's George Santos

I've seen a journey you know what? I actually went to his I'm kind of addicted to the fact that he still digs in on Twitter, it's so crazy so I went to his Twitter to see if he had commented on it because I want him to say something about you so bad so that I can

log on to our Twitter and be like, I just want to say... He's in the weeds right now. I don't think he has time to comment on my performance. I wouldn't be surprised if he has time. I just don't put anything past him to do the dumbest shit possible. Although, I mean, what gay Twitter was talking about this past week was that

you wanted gay representation in Congress. God, this is... Some gay guy found money and then spent it on makeup and porn. It's really good. Always be careful. I just want, just give us one. It's like, well, don't. Yeah. We'll be right back. No one gets a happier life. Salt Lake City. We don't wear costumes, we wear fashion. And below deck sailing.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I bet this will shock you, but my other favorite memory about that year is when it was over, because you know the man. Between dress and air, Lorne said, you know, he gave all his notes

and then he said, I just want you all to know, I feel as though this has been a championship season. Yes. And I think we all, it like, It was. Nobody knew what to say

because it was, and Lorne is not someone who No. has moments like that. No. So I do, I think that was for me. And again, just everybody was so in the pocket that year.

It was an in the pocket season. I'm telling you, it was an energy that radiated certainly through the city. And I guess to everyone watching it, but in the comedy community that we were in, or that we were about to be in, it was really exciting. And you mentioned the Lonely Island. I remember they were that was really the year I think too that the digital shorts started like really popping off and I remember that was like formative certainly for me I'm sure for you as well like because there was something there was an abandon about it that was like that felt like queer to me and like like, hit me in my head

and I was like, there's something about The Lonely Island that makes me feel like I can do whatever the fuck I want. You know what I mean? I think those had, that had so much to do

with the next 20 years of comedy. Yeah. 1000%. I think they're way more influential than people realize. Yes. And I think that even the sketch work of,

you talk about that, I love that Lawrence Welk, Kristen sketch so much, but that was sort of inspired by right, you talk about that. I love that Lawrence Welk, Kristen sketch so much, but that was sort of inspired by right. Seventies SNL. Like that could have also worked then. And that was sort of the magic of Kristen was being this better, more modern version of what we,

but those guys showed up and it was, Oh no, this is a whole new thing. Yeah. It's going to be this different thing. Yep. I mean, those seasons were like a perfect little like four dimensional tapestry of like, this is like past, present, future, all in one. Very cool. It's very weird. You guys

mentioned Henry Melcher, who is a producer on our show and obviously went to school with you guys. And for me, it's so crazy just realizing now there's this whole, you guys talking about being in college when that season happened. And now so many of you and your colleagues have come through and been guests on my show. It must be so weird to have your moment where the people you knew in college are all sort of in culture. Well, I mean, with Josh and Aaron for Dix the Musical going on, that was like, I stayed up for that episode. I stayed up for your episode this past month.

It is this like really surreal thing of like. That was when they were on this show. Please, I hope you don't take offense to the fact that I will listen to my podcast. Not one. I will speed it up a little. Yes. And that was the first time when the four of you were talking about something. Nope.

I'm going to do it. Oh, you listened to it. I slowed it down. Cause I was, it started at the beginning. I was like, this is like everybody.

It was like in an org. If you look down at an orchestra pit and everybody would be like it delighted me to no end we love them so that's the only I think that's the only

podcast in the last 10 years that I've been I'm gonna list it as one X Seth and I are the same then we're 1.5 so now I do

1.75 on YouTube but like I used to get on Bowen because I was like why would you do that because comedy is intentional the speed at which

we say things is intentional we talk all the time about how cadence is culture yes of course but now I understand because sometimes

there's so much you want to consume you are just resetting your own internal cadence to it so yeah because it's also cadence in

in a relative sense in a relative sense to the other people so if you speed it all up if you sped up one person in a comedy scene to the other people. So if you speed it all up, if you sped up one person in a comedy scene, it wouldn't make sense. But if you speed up everybody,

I will say, in the early days of The Daily, I had Michael Barbaro on the show. And I did not realize that anyone could take offense to this. But I said, I love The Daily because it's 20 minutes.

I can listen to it at 1.5. And it was as if I slapped the man. But it's Daily because it's 20 minutes. I can listen to it at 1.5. And it was, it was as if I slapped the man. But it's not because, I know, I've seen him since. He's lovely. But it was the first time where I realized,

I felt safe. I felt like it was a safe place that I could tell you guys that I was in a 1.5. The fact that you pressed play on it at all. Oh yeah, huge. Major, major, major.

This show, you got, first of all, let me say, I have this real, the only hesitation I had about coming on this show is that I feel like your voices in concert with one another are music.

And when I listen to your podcast, it is like music. And I have the flattest, most nasally voice. I'm working through a cold. I feel like your listeners right now are like, who let this out of here? I feel like you are too, like, a classically trained musician. And I'm a third grader with a recorder

who is on here like boop, boop, boop. So anyway, I know that I have a lot of shame for everybody's listening right now. No. This couldn't be further from the truth. I listen to Family Trips

and I go, wow, I get two Myers vocal timbres. This is my heaven. I'm glad that you think they're two because I do think we sound. You sound so similar in a way that is only delightful for me. I go, these are two good guys talking in my ear. I'm all that you think they're two because I do think we sound. You sound so similar in a way that is only delightful for me.

I go, these are two good guys talking in my ear. I'm all for it. You're so off base for that. Okay, get out of your head. Thank you.

We are so, we were described by Betty Gilpin as piccolo and bassoon. Oh, that's wonderful. And I feel like you've arrived here as a clarinet. You're a clarinet.

Welcome to the orchestra, baby, or the band as it were. I mean, she's, is that your pinnacle guest? She's one of them. She was our, I haven't, I listened when she was a guest.

I haven't listened to the live one. Was the live one? The live one was fun, but like her first episode, Maggots and Magic, that was like a moment in the podcast because we genuinely believe. You've had her on your show, right? I never have.

Oh, you have to. I know. It breaks my heart that I haven't. She's just so smart and so great. You should also check out her book. I think it's time to ask Seth a question. It's literally time. Seth Myers, what is the culture that made you say culture is great?

So I talked to Henry about this beforehand. And this is the heartbreaking thing. I can't believe you literally talked about the movie, which I should have known. The movie? Monty Python and the Holy Grail was my answer. Oh my God. But you know what?

The culture that was your culture. But in and, so my, here's my moment, because I remember it so clearly i was homesick from school and usually my mom was a school teacher usually she would take the day off and i for some reason my dad did not go to work one day you know when he was a businessman he commuted to boston uh he's like i'll stay home with you and he went to the video store and he rented it and he brought it home and obviously it was a movie he'd seen and that the opening credits that was the thing mine was there was all of a sudden they just slowly started mentioning a moose in the credits right right uh like moose handler yes and i remember there was

one that was moose's nose wiped by and for whatever reason i think that's the moment where you go i don't think I ever will, but it would be nice to be in a world where I would try to write something. Wow, that's so cool. Because it's also writing. It's writing. It's writing as a kid when you realize writing. Because that thing of, and again, that's Python.

I loved SNL as a kid, but my parents also had watched Python and it showed on public television, so we'd watch that. And so I kind of liked being the kid who, we could all talk about SNL sketches. I certainly was never looked down my nose at SNL, but I also liked that I had this other thing, which is like, you guys probably wouldn't get it. Right, right.

The fact that that was on, it was on PBS, right? It was. That's when we saw it. Yeah, I think that's probably where I hear mistakes from the beginning. Right. Yeah. Moose's nose wiped by is pure writing

because as a kid it's like performance is always registered. It's a very obvious direct thing. But for you to realize that like, oh,

that's writing. That is a joke and it's just words on a screen or whatever is... There is that moment when you realize writing is a thing.

It's very odd it's like things appear on television and you're a kid you kind of just accept it like I remember watching all these movies and just like

I'm watching a movie I don't think about how it came to be it's just in front of me and then you realize there's a creative aspect to it and you're like how the fuck

would I find myself to be that person but that's like a light bulb moment for a young person I also think the genius and why that movie why Life of Brian why they endure is you make it about a thing from a thousand years ago but that's like a light bulb moment for a young person. I also think the genius and why that movie,

why Life of Brian, why they endure is you make it about a thing from a thousand years ago or whatever. Yeah. And it's also funny as a kid, you know, King Arthur and it's only been presented to you. There's never been a patina of comedy on it. Right.

And then all of a sudden it is. So it's also the first time as a kid, you're like, Oh, and also you can be dumb about all this. Yes. Like you can tell jokes about the idea of a Holy Grail is also inherently super funny. Right.

Yeah. And we've been saying this for years now, but I really feel like dumb, frivolous shit is back. Like between like Spamalot being back, Shucked, which I love. I love Shucked, which I love. I love Shucked. And Josh and Aaron doing Dix is a perfect example of just like, let's just make jewelry for people's heads instead of making these gorgeous

embellished adornments of importance for people. I feel like it's great when something's important, especially in comedy, I guess. But we flew a little too close to the sun there. As a generation, I think weepy comedy, by the way, I guess. But we flew a little too close to the sun there. As a generation, I think weepy comedy by the way, I saw the movie May-December. Oh my

God, I can't wait. It is wild. It is wild. Natalie is the best she's ever been. I'm telling you, when she crushes it, and there's obviously no debate, but obviously one of the best we have. Julianne's cuckoo bird in it.

She has a lisp, which has to be... I'm looking at you, the audience. You have to go. And then Charles Melton from Riverdale delivers one of the best supporting performances of the year. I think the script is nut-a-sa. And what I will say the funniest thing is, is the Golden Globes... I guess, I don't know. Maybe they feel this is the way forward for it.

But it's being categorized as a comedy. And I'm like, wait, I'm sorry. No, that's the comedy. Is that you think this movie passes as a comedy? People might disagree because I guess you could call it like a very, very, very dark satire, like a black, black, black, black, black comedy, but like not really.

I can't believe in the reboot of the Golden Globes. The first thing they did was say, we're gonna decide what your movies are. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because that was always, like, they, it was just the most corrupt, you know, category hunting award show.

Maybe they were like, that's who we are, and that's why people like it. Yeah, maybe they're just not afraid of it, but to hear that May, December was gonna be a comedy days after i had seen it it shook me to my core and what i will say is i think i get the impulse for someone that's done really hard comedy and stuff like that like a comedian to want to show and express another side yeah i get that but also like i just feel sometimes it's a shame when there are no laughs in something that's meant to be a comedy. And that's

why I feel I hope you're right. Because I want to say stupid never left and stupid's always been there, but it kind of did. I feel like stupid doesn't get... What a lot of people were saying about dicks was that they were like, this is beyond critique. We don't know how... The reviewers were like, we don't know how, like, the reviewers were like,

we don't really know what to rate this. Yeah. Yeah, right. And I feel like there is something about comedy that's, like, outside of, like, any kind of criticism in a way. In a way that, like, is unfortunate. Because I think a lot of comedy, like, the Pleaser Destroy Boys had their movie come out,

and, like, a lot of the reviews were like, um, this was great. 40 out of 100 or something. You know what I mean? It's like, wait, that is the weird, I mean,

again, it's a reminder why there's a poison to putting a number on it. Sometimes you read a thing and all it will be is positive. Yep. And then you look at the number

and you're like, no, what, what, what, what, what, what,

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what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, Yeah, exactly. And they do that with comedies all the time. Please Don't Destroy has the thing. They'll still never pass up the chance to tie it to SNL. Of course, of course. So that is the thing. If you are an SNL person and it feels like, even though Lorne had nothing to do with it,

like they will. And I was noticing, I'm like, oh, even these people really like it. Or like, they want to tell you they know these are guys on SNL. Yes, yes. And then put it in the same cluster of films as like, Tim Meadows doing the Ladies' Man movie. put it in the same cluster of films as like Tim Meadows doing the ladies man movie

it's like it's not the same thing anyway I did we were looking for something just again we're talking

shut off our brains my wife and I the other day and because I listen to you guys do a list I have not since I saw it in theaters

watched my best friend's wedding oh isn't it great and I feel like you guys the thing that you forgot to mention, and it's so much, when was the era of I'm doing comedy meant I'm going to fall down seven times in a row?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's constantly on her back in that movie. She's constantly falling down. And then I think even when Rupert Everett shows up, he falls down a couple of times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot of like, that was an era where people would look at you

when you weren't supposed to be seen and you would be so taken aback that you would just fall. A lot of falling in that movie. A lot of falling. She makes everything easy in that, even the constant falling down. Sure.

A lesser actress, people would be like, why is she falling down so much? Oh, but yeah. Everything. The ease of it. I feel like there's a generation of, let's just say actress, who, like, I've heard anecdotally from people

that are like, oh, well, this actor across different projects, the same actor has pitched multiple times to different writers. What if I fell into a pool for this scene? I'll tell you who it is off mic, but it's

amazing. Legendary A-list actress who's been in every movie that you love has, for multiple movies, been like, I think this scene is fine. I think it'd be better

if I fell into a pool. I'm very excited about this. You're going to love the answer. I'd like to make our off-camera guesses and then you don't have to say who it is. Okay.

Please, next episode, say whether or not we were right. Yes, yes, we'll do. I will also say one of my favorite stories is when I was at NYU studying writing in my sitcom class, this woman had written we'll do that. I will also say one of my favorite stories is when I was at NYU studying writing, in my sitcom class,

like this woman had written on a sitcom that starred, it was one of those like first name sitcoms in the 90s. And she said that the actress came into the writer's room one day and said, there's just too much conflict in the episodes. Can't I just come in and jump on the bed? And they had to explain to her that in her half hour sitcom, which needs a story and conflict to create comedy and all the things she really wants, she

can't just come in and jump on the bed. Again, Oscar nominated, legendary, you know who I'm talking about. I know who you're talking about. I remember Fred when he was pitching Los Espookys to me was saying that he wanted to open it. Do you know this? he wanted to open it do you know this

he wanted to open the first episode by saying because Fred had this theory that conflict is over oh wow he was like I think we're

I think we're post-conflict which is a very funny Fred idea and he wanted to start it by him sitting there and go hi I'm Fred Armisen

this show's called Los Espookys we just want you to nothing bad's gonna happen yeah so sweet nothing bad everything's gonna everything's gonna turn outookys we just want you to nothing bad's gonna happen yeah so sweet nothing bad's gonna happen everything's gonna

everything's gonna turn out fine and we don't ever want you to worry when you watch this show that anything bad's gonna happen it was such a funny idea because of course Los Espookys nothing bad happened

but it was really funny to be like we just want you to know a lot of shows right now because even comedies right like bad things started happening in comedies all the time and it's like

this isn't that that's so funny because we're working on something together for us. And in the thing that we're doing, we say, you never worry about the friendship. Don't worry. Don't ever worry about the friendship. And I don't know why that's like a huge disclaimer that we have to put in.

Yeah, but it feels like, who are we doing that for? For us? For them? For the network? Like, what is that for? For everybody. Because I think it is pretty ingrained at this point that it's like, it's not like,

we used to watch sitcoms, like, it used to be like a Family Matters, like a Fresh Prince thing where it was like, oh, it's always going to be fine. Yeah. You know?

But now we're not quite as reassured. Yeah, I think that it's also that thing of like us wanting to be clear about the fact that like, if we do something, it's going to be comedy.

It's not going to do that thing where it's like, I look over my shoulder at Bowen in one episode and a silent tear rolls down my face because I'm concerned about the deterioration of who we are

you know what I mean like whereas which I think we've done we've seen like I'm tired of and sad and dark but God bless those shows but God bless

they were so good we enjoyed them there was now I feel like right a lot of comedies we're in this sort of gritty comedy. Now I feel like, right, a lot of comedies, we're in the sort of gritty comedy era. I feel like 10 years ago, I remember talking to my friends,

there should be a different Emmy category called whimsy. That was not, because there was a brand of comedy for a while where there was no expectation there were laughs. But it certainly wasn't a drama, but it just sort of lived in this middle where it was just, look, it's whimsy. It's jumping on the bed. It's jumping on the bed. When you were at NYU, did you ever

take a class taught by Eric Gilliland? Eric Gilliland? I don't think so. Was he in dramatic writing? He had written for Roseanne. I think he was a visiting teacher. The most iconic teacher we had, his name was Charlie Rubin. He had written for Roseanne. Okay. And so he, I think it was like a visiting teacher. The most iconic teacher we had, his name was Charlie Rubin. He had written for Seinfeld,

SNL, and Simpsons. And I remember it was like three iconic S's. And every, every, every like straight dude that I was in college with was like, Seinfeld, Simpsons,

SNL, baby. And like having to learn that, of course, SNL was like deep and Seinfeld, my dad was like a huge Seinfeld fan. And, but the Simpsons SNL baby. And like having to learn that, of course, SNL was like deep and Seinfeld. My dad was like a huge Seinfeld fan. And, but the Simpsons was this thing that like felt like,

were you a Simpsons kid? I was a Simpsons kid. And then going to NYU felt completely alienated by all the Simpsons quoting that was going on around me. I was like, I thought I loved the show and I guess I know nothing about it. And so it's taken me this like re, I re-tutored myself into this idea that like,

oh, I have always loved The Simpsons just as much as anyone else. It's just, it was this competition to see who like loved The Simpsons the most. Yeah. Anyway, but Charles Rubin? No, I'm just saying like he was an iconic teacher and I remember those three shows

like set him up as being that way. And so, I mean, saying that he had that background meant that he had like disciples yeah he had the full attention yeah 100% can I review a movie that I've watched

yeah yeah yeah please and I will watch The Hold it's The Holdovers the new oh yeah I'm hearing good things which I really enjoyed

the first half of but Giamatti Best Friend's Wedding oh wow yes he plays he works at the hotel look at that

oh my god nice reference wow and so I'm very excited thanks to you I do believe I'm going to ask oh wow yes he plays he works at the hotel look at that oh my god wow and so I'm very excited thanks to you I do believe I'm going to ask him about his time on My Best Friend

you really should and I'm happy you brought it back because you know what clip I often go to and watch again and again

and again on YouTube from that movie it's not pick me choose me love me which should always

get the credit as it walked so that Meredith Gregg could run. Sure. Is it when they're on the boat? It's when they're on the boat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, Kimmy says, just when you love someone, you say it.

You say it right then, out loud. This is my Dermot. It's fair. Lauren. Lauren. Matt's got a Dermot. Otherwise, the moment just passes you by, passes you by. And then the moment passes them by.

They go under a bridge. I have to say something. And this is, again, this is praise for the moment just passes you by, passes you by. And then the moment passes you by. They go under a bridge. I have to say something and this is again, this is praise for the two of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I believe you are, the way I would describe you,

you're witnesses. Like when you see things, like it's so, I was like, the backup dancers at Usher are so lucky you were at their show. I'm trying to light.

Yeah, but like, you know what I mean? Like you guys see things and then you talk about things. So I, because you mentioned that quote

on your Julia Roberts episode. And so I think I would have missed how good that scene was. It's so good. But because you had talked about it, I'm like,

oh, wow, yeah. I sometimes could allow myself to maybe get a little jaded during a romantic comedy. And then I realized, oh, no, this is the, it's an excellent one.

This is the, but again, like you need these moments to like weave it all together and if you don't have this really special moment. God was up to his tricks that day too

because the way that her hair is blowing, it was like, they said, we're going to set up a perfect day for this shot. And I have to say,

like that movie, I think there's like, is there anything problematic about it, even? Like, it's not like other movies of that era where it's like, you watch it and all of a sudden you're shot. When you start singing at a restaurant, it's all of a sudden scored with a backing track. For sure. So problematic. So problematic.

That was problematic. That's a good problem. I think it's very safely not problematic at all no and an iconic Chicago movie iconic Chicago would you say so I think it is an iconic Chicago

I got moves you've never seen she is so good where was her Oscar nomination for that met her exactly one time tell us and you know what

I should answer this question because sometimes I do a Q&A at my show before the last act and sometimes people will say are you ever starstruck and this is really one of them I was I hosted an Emmys Sometimes I do a Q&A at my show before the last act. And sometimes people will say, are you ever starstruck?

And this is really one of them. I hosted an Emmys and I was backstage with a couple of writers. And at the Emmys, there's just a lot of coming and going between the wings. And this was, she had a mini series. Homecoming? Oh, was it Homecoming on Amazon? That's exactly right. That was great, by the way. She was just sort of racing by,

and she just stopped and put a hand on my arm and said, oh my God, you're doing such a great job. And I was like, oh my God, thank you. And then she went, and it was just like, I didn't have enough time to be in the moment of, wow, that was thrilling. Like, I think, you know, you do enough SNL, you host a talk show,

you think, oh, who can you meet that would actually, and she's something else. Julie Robertson got it. Did that happen with Taylor? Taylor Swift? Yeah. Well, the last time I saw Taylor, I made an ass of myself and I was very anxious

and she called me out on it. Ah! It was her and Travis Calciago. I texted you in August a mega mix on YouTube of your songs and I'm so sorry. And she goes,

what? And I go, I was on ketamine and I'm really, really sorry. I shouldn't have done that. And she was like, and then I apologized to Travis about something

and then she goes, I think this is just your anxiety. And I was like, you're right, you're right. Bye. It was, I think there are moments like that where I go,

Oh, working at SNL and doing a show like this, it makes me worse at talking to famous people. Sometimes it does. And I don't know. I think I'm going through like some Joseph Campbellian thing where I'm like going to circle back to like being okay. But right now I'm in a weird,

weird spot with it. This is maybe 10, hopefully I haven't told this story too much, but 10, 12 years ago, maybe she'd hosted Essendale. My wife and I were somewhere at maybe the Time 100 event, and she was there. And went up and said hello.

My wife's a big fan of hers. And we said, oh, we're going to Nashville. We had never been. And she said, oh, my God, give me your email. I'll tell you where to go. And I gave my email to Taylor Swift. And two days later, the longest, most helpful email. I would say eight mini paragraphs about different places to go in Nashville.

And this is still, you know, she's not Taylor Swift of today, but she's Taylor Swift. She's been Taylor Swift for a long time. She has established Taylor Swift. She was at the Time 100. She has established Taylor Swift. Yeah. I mean, some people also, like, I've noticed that when people are like, let me make recommendations and they mean that, some

people really love to do that. It's like a power people have. I forget the name of every restaurant I ever go to. I also don't want the burden of people. I don't to. I also don't want the burden of people. I don't want them to put their vacation in my hands. No, absolutely not.

Like I couldn't possibly project my interests onto yours. Is it because you question your own taste? Or their reaction to my own taste. Right. Got it. So it's insecurity. Yes, it's insecurity. That's 100% it.

My dad, my parents got it down. I insecurity yes it's insecurity that's 100% it my dad my parents got into town I live in the West Village yeah my dad said he's staying at a hotel nearby with my mom and he said

we're gonna have lunch with your brother I'm like great he goes are there good places to have lunch panic downtown

and I'm like there are tons a million good places it's New York City don't make me tell you but could you say even one

no I couldn't say no well also because my dad is to his I guess if you think honesty

is a virtue will tell you what he thought of every restaurant you ever said okay so then you're just protecting yourself

I'm protecting yeah but you know the tricky one which brings me a little bit of shame is people always ask me about Amsterdam

and it's that weird thing where you say I haven't lived there for 25 years and when I lived there 25 years ago I had no money which brings me a little bit of shame, is people always ask me about Amsterdam. And it's that weird thing where you say, I haven't lived there for 25 years. And when I lived there 25 years ago, I had no money. And so I don't actually. And it's like three presidents ago. Yeah.

It's just not. They had a different government. Right. Yeah. Like, yeah. Well, Bowen will just say,

we got to go to the Soho house. Bowen will go to every international Soho house. You are their number one gay. I'm not. It's only because I don't know. We're in Berlin. I'm like, I've never been here before. I don't know where to go. Let's go to international Soho house. You are their number one gay. I'm not. It's only because I don't know. We're in Berlin. I'm like, I've never been here before. I don't know where to go.

Let's go to the Soho house. That is, I approve. They serve Mexican food there. At the German Soho house. Oh, you haven't had Mexican until you've had it. At the German Soho house. I want to have like a membership somewhere, but I don't know where,

because then like, I feel like you get clocked sometimes. Like, okay. They're not supposed to clock you. No, clock you no no not clocked in terms of like oh we see who you are it's just like i feel like people are like oh you're a member there you know what i mean i know but that's part of the exchange i went to berlin once with some snl people and i'm going to tell you the name of an snl person who still works there okay who rocked so hard in berlin and it's going to blow your. Can you tell me now? I'm gonna tell you their name. Okay. Eric Kenward.

Eric Kenward. Crushed. Last choice, right? It's not totally unsurprising. Yes, but Eric Kenward, we were out in Berlin everywhere we went. We would be at sort of underground bars. It would be 3 in the morning and we would say, alright, we're gonna go. He's like, yeah, I might go check out another place like he would have gone to the bar and met some other German and he is because he's very on top of it

yeah very put together person very put together person and he a whole different version of him came out in Berlin and one night

we went to a nightclub in Berlin and the next morning he goes I think I left my passport at the club oh my god and it was the funniest thing

because it was you know 10 a.m. and we went back like a German nightclub at 10 a.m. looked like there was no

it was like the amount of locks on the doors it's like this might not open again ever for a day it looks like a condemned

yeah and I'll bring it back to one of the credits you mentioned thank you very much for doing that New Year's Eve so I was in the film New Year's Eve it was my final film it back to one of the credits you mentioned and thank you very much for doing that New Year's Eve

so I was in the film New Year's Eve it was my final film it's on Delta by the way is it on Delta? you can watch it on Delta I almost did you know what

I will say I have I've been in the kind of movies that I have seen on the back of seats where people then flip no you still get residual stress

I think if they started I get a residual so one of my co-stars in that movie is a guy named Till Schweiger, who is a German actor. He was in Inglourious Bastards.

Yep. And he had said to me, if you're ever in Germany, here's my number. And I assumed, you know, I was like, I'm never going to see him again. We worked, it was like three days we worked on that movie.

Yeah. And then I'm in Germany. I'm like, ah. And he told me I'm a huge star in Germany. And so I text Till Schweiger and I'm like, hey, I'm with like five friends. And he goes, oh my God, where are you? I'm like, here he goes me I'm a huge star in Germany. And so I text Til Schweiger and I'm like, Hey, I'm with like five friends. And he goes,

Oh my God, where are you? I'm like, here he goes. Come over to my house. So we went over and he was the nicest. He said, I've got a bunch of bikes.

We'll get it. We'll all get bikes. And he's the guy who took us this nightclub. And by the way, he was like everywhere you went, you heard people be like, this is Til Schweiger. Like everybody,

even on bikes, people are like, this is Til Schweiger like everybody even on bikes people be like this is Til Schweiger and so anyway he's like come out on my boat the morning

so Kenwood loses his passport and we get on Til Schweiger's boat and Kenwood's like I think I gotta go to the embassy or you know

cause we gotta fly and Til's like what happened and I'm like he's left his passport at the club last night he's like yeah hold on a second

and he just like I mean like you know it's something like, yeah, is it your swagger? My friend, can I get his passport? Yeah. And he's like, yeah, they have it. And he just like called like new, like he had like the phone number to like club owners in Berlin. That's incredible. And it was immediately like, it'll be at your hotel.

So that was, that was the best. A lot of, you know what? I will say, I did not enjoy my time on film sets. I felt very out of my depth. Okay. But New Year's Eve was a great experience. Who was your wife in that?

Jessica Biel. Jessica Biel. So that's a nice thing, just as a credit. But the other couple was Till Schweiger and Sarah Paulson. Oh, lovely. So that was,

it was a really nice foursome. Was that Gary Marshall? It was Gary Marshall. Oh, that's pretty cool., it was a really nice foursome. Was that Gary Marshall? It was Gary Marshall. Oh, that's pretty cool. Gary Marshall, who I love. I loved him so much. And he was a Northwestern guy. Yeah.

And I remember one of the days I had a scene where I was going to run down the hallway because Jessica's water had broken. I do not remember her character's name. I apologize. I ran down the hallway. I was going to bump into an old lady and apologize to her.

And I remember Gary came up to me. He goes, I want going to bump into an old lady and apologize to her and I remember Gary came up to me he goes I want you to think of your favorite teacher you ever had and whatever her name was when you bump

into this lady you're going to say I'm sorry Mrs. whatever her name was and she's going to watch it and she's going to say look at it

he remembers me always anyway it's so sweet and then end of the day we run long have to cut the scene no

but he comes in he goes I'm cutting the scene will you promise me you're gonna call her oh my god you did not I did not

I think also the thing that I never had the heart to tell her I'm like I'm pretty sure she's long dead yeah yeah that's a scary thought

of like cause your favorite teachers when you were young might have passed they old now or you'd see them and they would look like so different Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's a scary thought. Because your favorite teachers when you were young. Might have passed. They're old now. Or you'd see them and they would look like so different. Like, I'm scared.

Yeah. You'd bring it to that. I had to bring it there. You know what? I was looking at the New Year's Eve thing and there's so many stars. Is that Lea Michele? So many stars. And none of us met each other because everything was like siloed.

It wasn't like one of those movies where we all meet up at the end. So you're not, in your future, you don't see more on-camera acting? I do not. And I feel great. I had a moment, I remember, where I decided I wasn't going to be,

I wasn't going to do that anymore. And I was so, the relief I felt was the most, it was so lovely. Well, we have a part for you. Do you? Big, big movie. Any big movie with you two.

If it's the case where I get to play Seth Meyers. I know! He looked at me and he was like, you know the one we're talking about. Well, actually, we'll write you a role. You're being easy to write for. That's what I was going at. I was like, I think this is just a challenge.

I have to say, your Gary, just now your Gary Marshall just now, was unbelievable. Very good. Put a camera on you there. That's an Oscar nomination for the biopic. I have a perfect level of impersonation for my current job, which is very undercooked, but like grabbing the essence of.

Of, yes. There was a moment in time where the beginnings or the idea of a Stefan script was being discussed. Right. Like when Millennium Bill Wright won. And this was not a scene that was ever written, but I did have a pitch for myself and discussed. Right. Like would a Millennium Bill write one? And this was not a scene that was ever written but I did have a pitch for myself and Stefan.

Yes. Which was because I knew it was going to be Stefan and James Franco you know whatever whoever his it wasn't going to be me

and Stefan. But you figure in so I figured in so I said here's how I think it should start. It should start with Stefan and we get an update and then when it's over

you know once again I'm so disappointed that as the city correspondent he did not bring whatever St. Patrick's Day tips right and he said look

to make it up for you just come out with me one night just come out have a night me and you together at Stefan's New York and I'm like alright

one night and then you would just do these super fast cuts of he and I and all these crazy clubs that would be the opening montage and then it would end with me in a body bag. Yes, yes, yes.

And Stefan would say, he's dead. And then the splash Stefan, the movie. And then it would be about him falling in love. You know, that would be. That is the most beautiful bridge out of that world. I thought it was a good bridge out. That is so funny. And honestly, 15 years before before they would have made that movie

1000% 1000% yeah I think that was a real Bill had a good sense of cause again it is still pristine

to have a an SNL character that also that was the greatest gift to me as far as I mean I thought my job was just to be

Stefan's foil and then very slowly him and Mulaney wrote this it was my romantic comedy I can't believe I got to be Stefan's foil and then very slowly him and Mulaney wrote this it was my romantic comedy I can't believe I got to be in it it really developed

into something gorgeous it was I mean Stefan was a moment in culture that was that was incredible I

we both it was his last Bill's last show was that getting married to Anderson Cooper and we had to and me saving the wedding

and we Bill and I ran off stage or he ran off and then I followed him and then it went to and me saving the wedding and we Bill and I ran off stage or he ran off and then I followed him and then it went to the pre-tape and then Bill and I were backstage right outside the like

control room wardrobe if you can picture and we're watching the pre-tape and now he's wearing a veil and we're holding hands and it was Bill's last show

and it was Sudeikis' last show and Fred's last show I think. And the previous year had been Andy and Wig. So for me, end of the era. I also know I'm leaving next year to host Late Night. And Bill and I are holding hands.

And we're both starting to cry. Oh, my God. And I was so funny because I remember I was getting married a few months later. And I'm like, I don't cry at my real wedding. Did you? I did. You're a crier, yes. Oh, yes. What's your sign? Capricorn. I'm a real happy crier. I rarely cry out of sadness, but I will. I'm a happy crier too.

I mean, one of the great things in life for me is telling people how much you love them and how much they mean to you. That is so wonderful. I think if I've ever cried, it's been a happy thing. I don't think I've ever cried for a sad thing on here. On here? Yeah. I've definitely cried for sad. I've, I've, I've, I have a nice, you have a beautiful range, range of emotion. I've tried to cry, not even tried to cry, but like I realized the other other day so I got on Lexapro this year and I feel like it's made me unable

to cry and it's been hard to not have that because I do identify as a crier so then I thought maybe I'll get off of it

I miss crying and then you realize no no no it's not the reason to get off of it you might cry all the time yeah yeah can you just lower the dose

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Flirting expert Rebecca LaRue. I mean, it's unbelievable. I think it was her best work ever. Which is saying a lot. Well, I will just say, here's how good it was. It was so good. While it was going on, I had a moment where I thought, am I going to fuck Kristen?

It literally is so... It's so... So real. Real. So real. And it was such an indictment of the kind of girls that I was into before I met my wife. Oh my God.

Because I was having this weird flashback to like, this is nice. She's making me feel nice. This is so funny. Because that's why it's so funny is because that is a person in the world. And that's how they, that is how they are. But I got to say,

so you can access dress rehearsal footage for every single episode that's ever aired. I love this. And I was so curious. I was like, how did Rebecca LaRue play a dress? Oh, I don't even know. Do you not remember? I have no memory.

I went back and watched the dress version of that. And I read the script completely different. Almost completely. And like, it didn't. And I'm going to say, and I think it's okay that I say this, didn't necessarily play a dress. Really? And it's one of those things where I go, that's amazing. That they're like, we know what to change.

We know how to fix this. And by the time it got to air, it was perfect. How would you characterize the changes? It was just like, she didn't open her legs, a dress. She didn't, I think she like underplayed it. I think she was coy for too long. And like, it didn't have a breaking moment by the end

like it was just they really really fixed it up by the time it got to air I'm at risk of saying well that was the wig era where she knew it would go through

no matter what but that was never her style sure but that wasn't she never counted on anything so I don't even think it was a case of her being like I'm gonna pace myself

I do think it was a case of her being smart enough probably wrote it with Kent James I'm going to pace myself. I do think it was a case of her being smart enough. Probably wrote it with Kent, James, I'm going to guess, where they knew how to fix it. Yeah. And that is, I mean, so early on when I was doing Update alone, Shoemaker, who's my producer, Mike Shoemaker, he now claims that he maybe made this up to give me a note

because he said, look, they've done some testing on you as a solo update host. And one of the things they said is they don't like when you don't like the guest, the viewer doesn't like when I'm mad. And I will say, I think that was sort of a bygone comedy move of just being frustrated. Like if I was always frustrated with Stefan, it would have been less fun

and so I gave myself permission to just enjoy yes and with that said there's still so many moments knowing that there were

dress rehearsals of all those characters where they were so capable that group of people was so capable of still being surprising two hours later

yeah but that is the thing where like I think Alex Bays pointed this out. Like the most flattering thing that ever came out of me doing the iceberg was like, Henry was telling me that Alex Bays was telling Henry that like the iceberg is so crazy because it's usually Colin or Seth or Che or whoever's at the

update desk being like, Hey, come on. Hey, come on guests. Like stop doing that. But this was a reversal where it was Colin being like, come on, like, teasing something out of the guests

being like, no, won't you give us something? Won't you talk about, like, the Titanic sinking for a little bit? And it's the guest who's like, no, I'm not going to do that. And I was like, oh, like, that had never occurred to me and Anna Dresden that, like, that's what we were doing. But, like, that is the thing that, like, that's another ingrained thing about SNL. It's like, oh, whoever's never occurred to me and Anna Dresden that that's what we were doing. But that is the thing that, that's another ingrained thing about SNL.

It's like, oh, whoever's at the update desk is trying to tamp down the fun of whatever's going on with the guest or something. Yes, absolutely. People will say, how did you not laugh during Stefan? And I'll say, I think I laughed all the time. I think that was part of the fun of it. When you go back, I allowed myself,

one of my friends, Neil Brennan, said, he goes, I like to think of update as the last place anyone can get their clients booked. Like everyone has, they've already, they've had just like, look, Morning Joe will not have Spawn back. He's a persona non grata, you know, but they think, you know, if we could just, he promises. And so that was another funny way to think about it,

which is this is the last place where any of these people can be on. That is, that's such a good frame. Yep, totally. Well, I think it's time. It might be time. I don't think so, honey. Oh, this, Seth, is our one minute segment

that we do, where we sort of drag something on culture for, let's say, a minute. And we say, I don't think so, honey, throughout. I have something. And it's not to attack London. something on culture for let's say a minute and um we say i don't think so honey throughout i have something okay and it's it's not to attack london it's to make an observation again about something i've said in the past because let me just get into it okay this is matt rounders i don't think so many times starts yeah i don't think so honey the showers in london oh i've come for the water

closets and the situations with the toilets being in a separate room. I have a huge bruise on my ass right now. I collapsed in the shower. I didn't even feel like I collapsed. It was more than what Julia Roberts does for comedic effect. It was a full collapse. Okay. I have to tell you what we're trying to do. I appreciate that the shower and the toilet were in the same room.

But when the room is too small, that means the shower is too small as well. The shower too small. I collapsed. is too small as well the shower too small i collapsed i the bruise on my ass i was of course because this is the horniest time of the year dming with people about potentially hooking up with them in the days prior to thanksgiving because people get super horny in the dms this time of year i told you this on your show yes i can't hook up with anyone right now because of the gangrenous bruise on my ass right now. I would show you, but I just don't think everyone wants to see it. I have to say, it's bad. It's limiting

and it's because of the size of the shower. I don't think so, honey. The way we're set up to fail in London in these certain rooms. And with the plumbing. That's so scary. I have to tell you, it was just a thing where I was like in the shower and I was just like, okay, well, I can't really move.

It's like, you know when there's too much room, you have fun in the shower and you're kind of moving around? I don't move around that much. What's your shower style? You stand right under the water? And then I'll reach and grab a bottle of something. But I'm not really using the space. I like to very much move around in the shower. It's not dancing, I would say. There's a hazard.

Well, sure, but it never happens to me in America. If you're going to take legal action against this hotel, your lawyer right now is stop talking. Matt, you are putting yourself in a hard position to sue. And okay, so then they had what was called a rubber mat, which I guess I was supposed to put down. What hotel was this down but then I I'm not saying

because no because my lawyer Seth your lawyer too he'll be like I don't know because I think

this Seth is right but I will say I open up our lawyer's name is actually Seth by the way our lawyer's name is Seth silent killers

we love our lawyers they were described to us before we hired them as silent killers were they really I was not they were described to us before we hired them as silent killers. Were they really? I was not, they were not described as that to me.

We had a manager who was like, you're going to want these guys. They're silent killers. They're not the kind of lawyers that's like in people's faces. They're lovely, very, very good lawyers.

They love when we talk about them on the show too. We always get a text. That's great. Well, Seth always texts. Isaac's not really a texter. Isaac's a texter, yeah. Well, not with me.

Fuck. He's a silent texter. He's a silent texter. That's what it is. Seth always texts. Isaac's not really a texter. Isaac's a texter, yeah. Well, not with me. Fuck. He's a silent texter. He's a silent texter. That's what it is. I'm just not seeing it. So I open the rubber mat, and it's like yellow and looks nasty. And I'm like, I'm not putting my feet on that, especially as someone who's a survivor of athlete's foot.

Right. I had athlete's foot for about nine months. And I realized it was because I had to have my shower washed. But can I say that you having a bruise on your ass does not necessarily

preclude you from hooking up with anybody. Can I say, it's not like a cute bruise. Like, I'm like, That's not up to you.

All right. That's up to the other person. I guess. Should I run the risk? I think you should. Also, I disagree that this is the horniest time of year.

In a month, it will be the horniest time of year. It's actually not. Don't disagree with me. Just me on record. This is a thing for me in press. Oh, busy. Interesting. So it's not weather related or like where our bodies are at during the holiday.

It's just busy. It's just that everyone's busy. It's about to become the horniest time of year because I said this on a show, but it basically it's like. No, I know you didn't. Well, for everyone listening at home that didn't watch my incredible segment on this virus which we all can agree was a far making moment. Seth and Henry texted me

they were like Matt was so funny I said I have no doubt and then I said to you I was like you have Seth's number I was like what are you guys in a group chat called Lauren's faves called the Laurenettes the Laurenettes. Lauren's boys so in a little while it will become the thing where people are like at home for a little bit too long.

And I'm telling you, this is when you shoot your shot with the person that you like have like flirted with before a little bit, but like it's never gone there. I bet back in the day, and you can say, back in the day, certain hosts came through, like lady hosts, like that were into it. Jennifer Lawrence admitted to having a crush. But yeah, I will say this. Mulaney once said this. He goes, did you know we could flirt with a host? I was like, no. Because I feel like a lot of people did very well.

Andy Samberg. Really? Yes. Isaac Sudeikis. And then it never occurred to me. I mean, I will say, Bowen, I feel like every day for me at SNL, as head writer was Christmas,

I was too busy. I was just too busy. Just too busy. was just too busy and you probably knew that they were coming on but you were like I don't think my radar for that was not up I will say I was as shocked as anyone when I heard that bounce from Jennifer Lawrence wow

not surprising to me at all you had every Rebecca LaRue in the city I had my LaRue had every Rebecca LaRue in the city. I had my LaRue years. Oh, my LaRue years. We need to have our LaRue years. Are they happening now? We just don't know that. I think I'm letting them slip away. I think I had a moment that

maybe there was a nightclub I used to go to that a friend of mine now has kids who are having their bar mitzvah at. That moment is starting to happen. Like, you know, we were talking about like New York City. Now, like, it's one thing when there used to be a theater there. Even worse if it's the thing you used to go to still there and now it's this.

And now it's for venues to go through generations. Yeah. Like to look at it, to look at a corner where you made out with Rebecca LaRue and like there's like a-year-old growing up. Not good. Not good. Not good. Anyway, I'm just nervous about the bruise on my ass.

And then I feel like it's that weird thing where if I go to hook up with someone, I'm like, just so you know, there's a fucking huge bruise on my ass. And then I'm kind of scared of their reaction, what if they're really enthusiastic. I'm sort of over the thing where guys try to hurt me during sex now. No, that's out. That's out. It's out.

And if you're in my DMs being like, some people really can't stop with the whole thing of like, I'm going to come over and choke you or I'm going to come over and like, you're going to be in an immense amount of pain. I'm like, what is it? What is it? I don't know. That's a real reverse LaRue. Yeah, that's a very different vibe.

This just speaks back to a very different vibe than my reverse LaRue I this just speaks back to a very hornier time in my life I remember once being with a girl who was in your situation but I remember she said

I have a boil that I need lanced and I don't wanna I never hooked up with her a boil I need lanced and I remember being like I'm sure it's fine I literally

you didn't care which is the word I was like it's fine and I think that we though, which is the word, I was like, it's fine. And I think that we should still do it. And she was like, no, let me, let me Lance the boil.

But at the time I was like, this is, you know what? Why are we getting hung up on boils? It seems like she was asking you to Lance it. I would, you think? Maybe,

maybe, maybe. Come over with your Lance. Okay. Well, anyway, I guess in a couple of days time, when this episode is out, come over with your Lance Lance okay well anyway I guess in a couple days time when this episode is out

maybe it'll have gone down a little bit I'm winking at the camera but I'll be home with my god damn parents and I have to say Long Island Grindr sucks

ah yeah it's tough out there but maybe I can find a straight guy you know I'm still trying to figure that out we can't do this anyway this is Bummer Games I don't think so honey guy. You know, I'm still trying to figure that out. We can't get into this. Anyway, this is Bowen Young's I Don't Think So, Honey.

Are you excited about this? I'm excited. Do you have something that you've been thinking about for a long time? Not a long time, but it's top of mind. Okay, well, a lot of people are going to listen to this one. It's a Seth Meyers episode. This is Bowen Young's I Don't Think So, Honey. Time starts now.

I Don't Think So, Honey weighted blankets. I am... These are so dangerous. These are so dangerous. These are so dangerous. These will kill me. I'm waking up groggy as hell because of this fucking x-ray apron on my chest. And why are some of them filled with glass beads? Is this the cock on a Thursday night?

Get the beads out. I'm sorry to shame the people who like the beads in them. Get the beads out of my blankets. Because it's not. And how come half of them aren't machine washable? So I'm supposed to spot treat these things that are disgusting and heavy? No way. I better be able to put it in my drum, in my little machine and clean them.

Otherwise, I'm getting the factory smell on me. And that is not going to relax me. These weighted blankets are going to ruin my sleep and my life. And if you get me one for Christmas or anyone you love for Christmas, you're wishing death upon your loved one. And that's one minute. It's not. I have one and I don't really use it.

And I think it's a novelty. I think it's a novelty We're all going to laugh at how much we supposedly loved these things in a couple years I also think the bane of a weighted blanket is when you decide you hate it almost impossible to throw away You can't get rid of it

It's going to be whenever you move out of your apartment you're going to leave it as a welcome to the next person And you're never going to move out of that apartment, you're going to leave it as a welcome to the next person. And you're never going to move out of that apartment. They're not getting anywhere near that, the next person. I think that they're really good in theory. But what I fear about the weighted blanket is what actually is it doing to our backs and our bodies? Because I don't think that that can be good for you.

Because you're not really supposed to sleep with them on, right? You're supposed to rest with them. Some people say that you can sleep with them and that they're helpful for sleep. For back problems? I was talking to our friend Amber Ruffin about this yesterday. I saw her yesterday. I saw her yesterday as well. And she said, my fear is

that I'm going to be too weak to get out of it. And that's a fair concern. But I am laughing, thinking about Amber under a weighted blanket being like, ah! Oh, no! Late for work. Yeah, late for work.

I gotta go to work! Oh, no! Before I do my I don't think so, honey, there was something in a recent episode that struck home for me. Wait, can I ask you, are you a reader? Like, what's going on? How do you identify?

I guess a reader. Yeah, you're a reader. I'm a reader. You're a finalist. No, you're a finalist. You're a finalist. Okay, what did we say? Donna Karan. Donna Karan you're a reader. I'm a reader. You're a finalist. No, you're a finalist. Donna Karan. Donna Karan. So here was mine.

I had one, which is my mom, my entire life, said Tommy Hilfinger. Tommy Hilfinger, that's huge. My mother would say that too. And I did not, never got corrected because I think then I, it was a catalog that came to our home and my dad wore a lot of Tommy Hilfinger. But then it was there was nothing to correct it for me. Right.

And then I did a charity event for Tommy Hilfiger. No. And it was, thank God, I wrote my jokes and I showed it to Shoemaker. And thank God I spelled it Hilfiger. Because I was writing. And he goes, I'm going to say something and I want you to be offended. Do you think his name is Tommy Hilfiger? I'm like, I 100% think it's his name.

He goes, it is not Tommy Hilfiger. It's Tommy Hilfiger? I'm like, I 100% think it's his name. He goes, it is not Tommy Hilfiger. It's Tommy Hilfiger. I'm like, oh my God, this could have been a disaster. To get it wrong at an event

honoring him. Terrible. That's like saying Jimmy Buffet. Jimmy Buffet. That was at his funeral. James Buffet. Rest in peace.

Oh, rest in peace. Rest in peace. Were you a parrot head? I never cared about it. It was a thing. I will say there was a moment in, I, so whatever,

92 to, wait, hold on. Let me get this right. I was high school, 89 to 92. There were a lot of kids who like loved Jimmy Buffett. Yeah, I mean.

Like we would go to parties and that would be, there was like an Elton John box that came out that year and there was a Jimmy, a lot of Buffett and John. That was that. This is in suburban New Hampshire.

Suburban New Hampshire. Yeah, I think it's a thing. It's an access point for a lifestyle that is so far away from you. Yeah. Especially if you're in New Hampshire or maybe even, yeah. The day he died, my dad was at the beach crying a tear and pouring one out. Good for him. Yeah, he was a massive.

Good. I mean, I do think, and that was a Good for him. Yeah, he was a massive. Good. I mean, I do think, and that was a very nice, I mean, talk about a non-toxic culture, right? Yeah, totally. Perfect culture. Who do you stan? Who do I stan? I feel like I'm outgrowing my stan years.

That's okay. Like a lot of the things I've stanned, I don't even know who I stan anymore. Let's say the last person that you were like, I'm going to really, I'm going to listen to the whole discography. I'm going to like familiarize myself with this person, these people,

because I love them so much. Well, okay. So somebody, this music critic I really like wrote, he did make a list of his 50 favorite Elton John songs. There were a lot of them that I didn't like, I realized I'm like,

oh, I didn't know. And there's a lot of like 70s Elton stuff that's really great and like not radio friendly because they're like nine minute songs so I had a very nice summer

listening to a lot of long Elton John songs Elton John is one that I got my dad the Goodbye Yellow Brick Road vinyl and he got really way more excited than I thought he would

and it excited me how excited he was yeah perfect album. Yeah. Would you stan, I think, Jeff Tweedy, but he's a friend. He's friendly now, but I do stan Wilco.

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your podcasts. Seth, are you ready for I Don't Think So, Honey? I am so ready for I Don't Think So, Honey. And I hope... What are your hopes? Yeah, let me just do it.

What are your hopes for this? My hopes is that... Well, it's going to be a holiday theme. Okay. Great. And I really do Rock Felicena. That's one of your songs, right? You're it! And to be a holiday theme. Okay. Great. And I really do. Rock, Fela, Senna.

That's one of your songs, right? You're in. And you're name dropping. I know. And I was a little worried because Fallon gets name dropped early. And so then you worry like, and I would not begrudge the choice. No, no, no. You made it.

And so I'm very happy that I find my way in later in the song. I forgot to bring that up when I was on your show. I was going to say. I was like, you guys should talk about it. Did you know that you were in the song? I did not know I was in the song when you was on your show. I was going to say, I was like, you guys should talk about it. Did you know that you were in the song? I did not know I was in the song when you were on. I knew I was in the song

because I listened to the album after you were on and I was very happy because when I heard Fallon early, I was like, oh boy. Oh shit. I wouldn't,

but again, that was the right choice. Yeah, what's fun about that is starting with Jimmy and then going to Al and then landing in Jenna Bush Hager. Absolutely.

And Jenna Bush Hager is a laugh line and that's actually rule of culture number 18. Jenna Bush Hager is a laugh line. And that's actually rule of culture number 18. Jenna Bush Hager is a laugh line. She's actually one of my favorite people in culture. I think I'm going to see

her tomorrow. Really? Perfect. I'll tell her how you guys say hello. We love her. We're about to see her too. We're about to see her too.

Are you really? Yes. Is it her house or yours? No, I mean, is she coming to We're going to her house. Okay, gotcha, gotcha. But, I mean, you coming right before Cecily Strong, No, I mean, is she coming? We're going to her house. Okay, gotcha, gotcha. But, I mean,

you coming right before Cecily Strong, really, I think. Seth Meyers, Cecily Strong, Meredith Vieira. That made me very happy, yeah. And you know who was really happy?

Verizon Corporate. That was the dream. Both of you get Verizon money if you were next to each other. If you put one person between us, no payday. Well, here's the thing. Here's the peak point

of the curtain about that song. So I'm writing that part because I wanted to have you do it. And I said, you know what? I said, I don't care what anyone thinks. Ann Curry is going in this song. Because I know Ann Curry is controversial in all of it, but I was like, I don't care.

This is my fight song. Ann Curry, all respect to Ann Curry is the lyric and that is true forever yep love her love Anne love Anne Anne for the pod

she'd be an incredible guest she really would be you think? yeah okay this is Seth Meyers' holiday themed I don't think so honey this time starts now

I don't think so honey out of towners who visit the Rockefeller Christmas tree this is an office it's a place of work it's an office just listen to Matt's song.

People work there. And I get it, but I think you all come from places where there are a lot of trees to go see. Is it just that there's one tree amongst buildings? If you put one building amongst the forest, I wouldn't come and visit it. Also, you can look at the weather

before you visit New York City. And sometimes, I hate to say it, but due to climate change, it's not zero degrees. So don't wear your biggest coat because that's basically each person is two people and we don't have enough room in the concourse for that

here's the biggest thing though if you go to the tree lighting I have so much respect for you to be there in person when they light the thing up just look at it just enjoy the moment because too many of you hold up your phones and you try to take a photo of the moment the lights go on that's an impossible moment to take because you either get the moment before the take a photo of the moment the lights go on. That's an impossible moment to take

because you either get the moment before the lights are on or the moment the lights are on. And just, this is a thing. You're there.

You fought through the crowds. Just watch it. Just live in the moment. 100%. But a Merry Christmas to all and I do appreciate you. And that's one minute. You're actually dead right.

And the thing about needing to document the tree lighting is they're actually, they're grabbing that. They're grabbing it. They're actually dead right. And the thing about needing to document the tree lighting is they're actually grabbing that. They're grabbing it. They're actually grabbing it. There's professionals that are grabbing it for you. So you can actually have that moment documented.

You don't need to be the one to do it. I promise you there's actually a huge televised special where they're getting it. Flip it around. Get you and your family, but with the tree in the background. No one's going to say you shouldn't do that. But just that moment of trying to be there.

I was there when the light went on. And so you can't take that photo. Yeah. What is that? How does that play into your own Christmas experience? I think everyone's fine. Just looking at the tree from Saks Fifth Avenue and then keeping it moving.

We would come in from Long Island to see it. And even as a pre-ironic, like when I was in like middle school, I was just like, look, like I get we're going into the city to see a show. Like I understand this culture, but the tree, I was like,

I never got the tree. And I think that's where the song comes from. It's just like, this is so silly. But like people- Your song is great because you respect it as a place of work. You were singing a song about a holiday place, But like, well, your song is great because you respect it as a place of work that you are.

You are singing a song about a holiday place. But what I like about the lyrics is you keep reminding people. Yes. This is where people work. But it also encourages voyeurism and encourages the encroachment of privacy. And I'm happy you're here. So I can apologize to you about that because I think you're really on the map because of my song. Yeah.

I think people are looking at these on the hunt. I, I didn't really, so speaking about nobody on the hunt, I like when, you know, if BTS is on Fallon, there's so many people outside. And talk about a Venn diagram where there's, it's two circles. Yeah.

I can walk through it and nobody, and again I walk out with a couple security guys, so there you would be, there's a moment where you're like, is it? You know, like you look, you see a guy and nothing. And I found out at SNL after the fact that like there are people in my cast who at the end of the show would go to the basement to get cars wow you don't do that we don't i've never i've been with you and i'm starting to get when i walked out now not the biggest response anymore what are you talking about it's fine it's It's a beautiful moment. I'm not like the

new guy. That's literally not true. I think that you're probably just used to it. No, no, no. I think it's they're used to me and they're like, oh, there's that one. The glamour of walking from those doors to the cars when it's like the thing of they recognize you. I never

think that's ever going to happen for me. And then when I was at BravoCon Oh. I got out of a car at BravoCon and walked and it was people were screaming

like I was BTS. I was like why because I've been on Watch What Happens Live a handful of times and that is why. The Bravo people are their chef's kiss

the way they act. Lovely people. 2001 SNL I feel like was the end of an era. I feel like it was the last vestiges of sex in the city of New York before it shifted to the post-9-11. Yes, yes, yes.

And the cars to the SNL after party were stretch limousines. Like old school prom-y stretch limousines. And so, you know, now I think it's all town guards or SUVs. And so it was such a trip when I would have high school friends or college friends come to the show. And it was such a trip when I would have high school friends or college friends come to the show and it was everything you wanted it to be

where you'd like get into a stretch limousine Kyle Mooney would still get one every week before he paid for it that's so funny he paid for it himself

yeah it was so talk about a Disney person oh Kyle Kyle will fuck it up at Disney oh I bet he goes with Fran Gillespie

Fran and Beck and Beck. And Beck? I love Beck. Beck and I were at Sarah Schneider and Mike Carnell's wedding. And it was in Virginia. And I went on my own. And I got like a room that was like a two-room villa.

It's not a villa because it was like all colonial. But anyway, you'd walk in the front door, you go right, and it was one hotel room and left and it was the other. And they were like each suites. And I, again, it was a wedding

where I was on my own and had a nice time. And then I went back. I was going to drive back first thing in the morning. And Beck had people to his room. And it was the funniest thing. It was so loud and dumb.

And it kept me up, but it was, Beck was doing the dumbest bits that were it was making me laugh so hard usually because it was just

I was like he would be so devastated if he knew it's like I'm it's like somebody rolled a bed with me in it into the middle of it

that's how well I hear it and he did write me the nicest note because I think in the morning he slowly put it together he was like oh no and it was really sweet

one of our biggest sweeties love love that guy note because I think in the morning he slowly put it together. He was like, oh no. And it was really sweet. One of our biggest sweeties. Love. Love that guy. Love that guy. Speaking of loving that guy. Love this guy. Period. This was everything I wanted it to be. My favorite thing was when it started and Matt said, I have a surprise for you. And you literally heard a rustle and guessed it exactly.

It really speaks to how in sync you two are. Well, listen, I have a psychic connection to him. And honestly, it's really, we have Emily to thank because when she gave me

this for you, I was like, I should have. And then I got friend guilt because I was like, why didn't I already think to do this? And I got an elevator today

to go down from my apartment to come here and I had forgotten them and I said, let me go back. I was like, I have to get this to my girl and still you got here

before I did yeah that's amazing love you this was such an honor and a pleasure to be here with you guys are you kidding

this is just the best you guys are so good you're so good at many things but you are the two of you together doing this has been just so happy

to be here in person this is the best and thank god we could do it in person and it's caught on film. Yeah. Thank you all. Give it up for the crew.

Give it up for the crew. Here they are. They've been so great. Did you guys enjoy yourselves today? All right. There we go. Yes.

Yes. This is incredible. You got to watch Late Night with Seth Meyers. You probably already are because we have such a cool audience with a great sense of humor.

You guys, you might have to come on our podcast one day. Oh, yes! We have trip stories for sure. We have trip stories. We've told the story many times, but Bowen almost threw up on a plane and I got mad at him. He got mad at me for

feeling nausea on a plane. We'll talk about that on the Daily Trip. We end every episode with a song. Why is this one in my head? Goodbye, Roomie Tuesdays. Because I was thinking...

I was thinking about Elton John. But that's not Elton John. But I feel like psychically it is Elton John. But famously not. Psychically, yes. But famously not. It's actually Equivalent Culture number eight. Psychically, yes, but famously not. It's actually Equivalent Culture number eight. Psychically, yes, famously not.

Bye. Bye. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy, Elian Gonzalez, was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami?

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every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13

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