Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "This Is King" (w/ Ego Nwodim)

Episode Date: April 15, 2020

Okay yes, YOUR MAJESTY! It is a royal affair on Las Cultch with the one true KING, Ego Nwodim! The kings talk about what makes a king, driving habits, the shock of moving to a new city, and channeling authority issues in high school into having a low tolerance for buffoonery when it comes to dating. You MUST stay for when Ego schools the children on all things Bad Boy Records, and clench your little holes for three dynamo I Don't Think So, Honeys! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So get your Quibi on and watch Game Show. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Oh, God. I really appreciate it. I need this so bad. You have no idea. I'm not doing well look man oh i see wow oh my oh and look over there wow is that culture yes las culturistas ding dong las culturistas calling and i have to say already there's a front runner

for title of app there's a front runner for title of app there's a front runner for title of app well I know that there's one key word that's going to be operative uh already this word is floating around in the air is making me feel tickled it is making me feel absolutely full of laughs and that word I can reveal at this time is king well you know what that word kind of fills me with a melancholy too too. Can I explain why? I would like you to go on and keep going speaking. And when you speak, explain why we're talking about this word king and why it means something to you. Well, first of all-

The listeners should care. The listeners should care. Here's why. The readers. The readers. I don't know when this really started. We have to get our guest into this conversation very soon. Post-haste. Post-haste. It's what we call each other at work.

And then, wouldn't you know it, it just stuck. And now, truly, I'm going to say something crazy. Oh, shit. The thing I miss most from the before from the before is your king is my king not even just my king is the sound and the acoustics down the hallway of king at at our place of work and it's just hearing her say the words king and i i miss it so much and i can't wait to hear that word in person from her, from our guests. Well, you know that oftentimes people say the expression, um,

well, your family is my family. Like how, what's this expression? Well, any, any friend of so-and-so's is a friend of mine. There it is.

I found it. So I've personally feel and personally believe that if we're going by that expression and we are, it's actually rule of culture. Number 10, we are going by that expression, and we are. It's actually rule of culture number 10. We are going by that expression. That this person, this guest, this king, is also my family and my friend and my king.

Yes, you are her king. She is your king. I mean, I haven't just heard this from you. I've heard this from Sudi as well, that there's a new king in town. Oh, she is the once and future and past king. Oh, wow. Well, that's what the once is, right? She's the once present future king. The once and future and past king. Oh, wow. Well, that's what the once is, right?

She's the once present future king. The once and future king. So I had known of our guest from her storied performance career because this is a UCB LA vet. This is a JFL vet. And a JFL vet even. And a CBS Diversity Showcase vet. So there's many avenues that i that i was familiar with this person and then this individual this king came to national recognition yeah on the program saturday

night live which is a beloved actually sketch comedy program that airs live from new york city yeah and it's sketch comedy and you're on it yes, in fact. And it's run for many years, more than 12 years. More than 12 years. And she has been on it for two seasons. And I got to say, she is a very present person at the office. I'm just saying that people have already bowed to the king. Do you know what I mean? That's actually good.

Because you know what can happen when the subjects don't bow? You get a storming of the Bastille happening that's exactly why best deal happened now are you are you impressed with me that i knew about the storming of the best deal i am impressed i know about it because of a tweet by padma lakshmi she said and i am going to do an impression of her time to storm the best deal go. Go. Oh, time to storm the Bastille. My daughter, she wants to be a pop star when she grows up. I don't know why. These impressions are done with love. Now, she tweeted, let's storm the Bastille.

And I said, I think I remember that from AP European History. And I looked it up. And wouldn't you know it? It was a topical, prescient reference. Because we are not doing well in this United States of America. And you know, in France, they once had to storm the Bastille. And so I think that Padma was actually advocating

for a rush of the White House. So you can take that up with her. I'm not saying that we go to Washington and cause violence. I'm saying that we cook some gorgeous sourdoughs at home you do you have a better podman impression than me well you know this is my podman and you know i've always i've always been you know a political person but you know it's not really appropriate for top chef you know we actually do top chef in different cities every every year we do every season i should say rather we do top chef in a different you know city and you know the culture of that city really does you

know it really does influence the contestants and the food and you know i definitely you know you can say i go for it when i'm in this i try all the food i eat everything i eat everything i'm the only one on that show who eats everything she's and she can say anything and she sounds so cool and like she's the coolest number one yeah just whatever she's she's the best um but but we're not here to talk about her really we're here to talk about someone who she's the queen this is the episode for the king i serve at her pleasure that's what that's what makes her the king. And I actually do as well. Okay, so everyone welcome into your ears. Ego Woto!

Wow, now that is a damn intro. Am I so loud right now? We worry. We don't worry, actually. I don't worry because, I mean, when the king speaks, that actually is one of the many facets of the king is the voice rings loud through the kingdom. Wow. The facets when the king speaks, that actually is one of the many facets of the king, is the voice rings loud through the kingdom. Oh, wow.

The facets of the king. My two kings. And Matt, you are also my king, honey. Yes. But let me tell you, we have not met enough. We have not been able to share in each other's company. Sure. Sure, sure, sure.

But it's just something I know in my spirit. And I operate from my spirit place and that's actually huge and i do as well um and i will say that it's one of the great tragedies of us really switching cities can you believe i can't believe i can't i was i was too fucked up uh my are we is this a cussing podcast yeah 100 we said okay good good good i was too fucked up my first season you know getting used to life of course to really to really get to mingle and and get to know you king but i will king king other king let me tell you this is i've been waiting for this moment and i said we're gonna make this happen as we know this was supposed to happen

this was supposed to happen quite a few times in the flesh this is not the the only time this will happen this will happen again king is part of the kingdom truly yes yes i'm happy to be this is an honor by the way come on no stop it but you i mean wait can we get into the first year though i'm sorry to like yeah just come in hot let's get into it but the first like for anybody this is the thing and you two can speak to this better than i can because i have not had to move to a new city in like 12 years at this point like i forget what that feeling is of like overwhelm or just of like shock or whatever like i i'm i'm afraid to do it ever again i don't know i didn't think i would

have to be like the new kid in life at at the age of 30 like that was truly like uh and i have friends that live in new york but i work opposite schedules like my schedule is opposite of theirs so there's no hanging out they all live in brooklyn i do not they work in manhattan live in brooklyn if i don't catch them at like 6 p.m on a weekday it's not happening so it was truly jarring and i had a therapist that said had rest god rest her soul um oh my goodness no no she's still alive she's still alive i just run through him i run through him like a man slanging d so uh this one one of her gems was you i could allow myself this past summer she's like to mourn your old life and i go you know i had never considered that but yes yeah you know what i will do that how are you doing matt i'm good i actually love

los angeles very much and um but it was an adjustment i mean i think like i i mean my thing is like i was such a new yorker i lived there for 10 years and then i also grew up on long island so it was like you know i didn't i thought i never had to drive again i really thought i was never leaving new york again um and then getting on the road was an adjustment for me yeah uh but now i can say confidently that i am a good driver although i am back to my heavy foot ways she's got a heavy foot no yeah are you a weaver i miss driving big. I like to get where I'm going. It's like Mario Kart on these streets. Yes. Honestly, it's the only way to drive

in LA. You guys can't be weavers. That makes me nervous. Well, don't get in the car then. Yeah, you gotta stay out of the car. My best friend's always like, she'll send me these memes of driving with me in LA where she's riding in my passenger seat and she's, the memes about like, did you die though? Did you die? And she's like, these memes of driving with me in L.A. where she's riding in my passenger seat. And she's the memes that the memes about like, did you die, though?

Did you die? And she's like, this is driving with you. And she also has said that she has grown to trust my driving, though it is jarring because she lives in Chicago. She's like someone who used to come and visit in L.A. She's and she lived there before. But she's like initially on my visit, I'd be like, oh, my God, what are we doing? And then you get, she's like, I get you straight because then I remember you have really quick reaction time. Yeah. Wow.

Have you ever been in a traffic accident? You know, as an adult, one time, and it was, I was rear-ended. My last, 2017. That bastard. Truly a bastard who hopped out of his car and said, I'm on my way to my wedding, so, like, what do you need? And I was like, what? That was a line.

What is happening? That was the first thing he said. First thing he said. He's like, hey, I'm on my way. It's my wedding day. I got to get out of here. What do you need? And I was like, oh, okay.

So that was 2017. Fucked up my back real good. And you know what's crazy? Fuck. Is that you imagine getting rear-ended is going to be this thing where it's like everyone came to a quick stop and the person behind you couldn't stop fast enough. It was like, no, I was waiting for someone to park and he wasn't paying attention. And just like, so yes, so not my fault. I'm an incredibly good driver.

And I trust you are. No, I actually consider myself a good driver as well. But if any of my high school friends were here right now, they would laugh, laugh down. Because I actually was not responsible, but I was involved. And I don't know if I've told this on the pod, but when I was 18 years old, I was getting back from a track meet bowen you know this story i yes i do so i was getting back from a track meet an invitational it was a saturday and i was getting

into my car i turned on the radio made a right hand turn out out onto the road from my high school and a kid on the bike flew out in front of me and rolled up onto my window and rolled back down immediately i stopped it was like it was like a tapping but it was truly crazy and i had the right of way at everything this kid flew out onto the street like a true bad out of hell and then i get out of the car panicked my car is on top of his bike and he had scurried like he had scurried to the side but i'm telling you i was like are you okay and he he had his he was like holding his knee he moves his hands out of his knee his knee is fucked up and then the police came not told me this but

girl no i fully hit i fully hit a kid and then this was in 2008 bitch but it wasn't my fault the kid was literally driving cuckoo bananas flew out into the middle of the road and then the people that like were around me were like it was a total accident he had a green light everything etc etc and um the kid like he wasn't wearing a helmet or anything not that like i he's yeah yeah well you should be wearing a helmet but not to put any blame on him it was just truly a freak moment victim blaming yeah that's really what i'm here to do is to just make sure that this kid knows that it was his fault you were about you're about 10 miles per hour away from being a laura bush i gotta say. Oh, 100%! A Brandi Norwood herself. A Brandi Norwood.

Oh my goodness. Ms. Norwood herself. And also Caitlyn Jenner, let's not forget. I was gonna say, yeah, Caitlyn. I feel like Brandi and Caitlyn might have been on the same freeway in LA, their situations. I feel like it was PCH for both of them. But I might have made that up.

I think at least one of them was PCH. I mean, both of those those cases that was vehicular man slaughter yeah i would hate to be i don't know that i'd be okay with self no it's not really their fault right but like that is a nightmare that i did that well yeah you have to live with that the best part was that i logged on to facebook after it happened like that night and everyone was like um commenting on his on his facebook like hey hope you're okay hope you're okay and someone was like what happened and the kid put on his facebook status matt rogers hit me with his car oh and that's how you know that matt was you know

a name i was a kid i was a high school campus celebrity because i did the morning announcements oh you did the morning because I did the morning announcements. You did the morning announcements? I did the morning announcements. I did the morning announcements. So did Bowen. We all did the morning announcements. This is king. Okay. This is king.

That's front runner for all of that. This is king. This is king. But this is also a trend I found among people in our little circles. Like a lot of comedians and like truly like two thirds of of the cast at work like are we're all morning announcements people i remember doing the day after britney spears's vma performance oh god more i i like signed off and i thought i was being so smart and funny i was like have a better day than britney spears did yesterday and it was mortifying and i regret it

and that's my equivalent of um vehicular manslaughter emotionally i i fully pancaked britney spears that day and i will never forgive myself did you hear about it from the other students well they were like bella that was so funny that you mentioned like back then like no one had like a refined sense of humor so they were just like, you referenced a thing, and that's funny. It was the beginning of meme culture, what you did that day. Sure, absolutely. I ran for class president, and one of my slogans over the morning announcements was, whoever said progress was a slow process wasn't talking about me. Oh, king.

But let me tell you something. My teacher, Mr. Spivey, my government teacher was like, what was that? He was one of my favorite teachers. Mr. Spivey just truly was. I was like, I can't tell if you're roasting me, if you're genuinely disappointed. It was this line. I couldn't tell if he was really disappointed or roasting me. And I feel like, you know, I was in high school.

High school. Yeah, that that was actually in high school by then. And yeah, the students. But but yeah, they liked it. But I just remember being like, oh, that was stupid. That was bad. Mr. Spivey. yeah they liked it but i just remember being like oh that was stupid that was bad mr spy v8 okay i remember needing to shake it up a little bit because they they they had us on a really

like a like almost like a script and i would just kind of throw my little ad libs in there and like i remember the um the woman who worked in the main office miss lucas would always kind of give me like a raised eyebrow and i remember she would never let me say the pledge of allegiance because quote unquote she liked to do it um so that's what we're dealing with here one day as my sign off i said instead of like have a great day i said thanks and have an earth shattering day and i got called into the principal because he said that um we couldn't be having terrorists. Like, this is what, like... Oh. See, after 2001, right after that, like, this is, like, this is 2007, 2008,

so it was still, like, everyone was like, oh, hashtag terrorism. So he thought that my earth-shattering day was like a dog whistle. And I was like, well, we would hate for someone to hear me and shatter the earth. It was truly stupid. Were you a little asshole in school, Matt?

Well, I'll tell you this. It's not a no. I had my moments. I certainly had my moments, but I was really generally a good kid. I was actually prom king. Oh, actually an actual king. An actual king. I mean, here's the thing this is king king this is king when we talk about king and we talk about me no we mean a matt rogers we mean

a matt rogers prom king i was doing like all american boy drag oh god i i was homecoming king but i king i got in a lot of trouble. Now that I think back on high school, this is the thing that I've tried to erase from my past is that I've gotten in a lot of trouble. Have you guys gotten suspended? He wore a scarlet letter. I never got suspended.

I got suspended for five days. Lots of trips to the principal's office, but never suspended. Wait, you got five days OSS? I got five day out of school suspension for what criminal criminal ass here's what happened this was april 2004 freshman year of high school wow a young criminal young criminal um young criminal good criminal good criminal i uh you're gonna have to suspend that one we um just got our yearbooks and i was in the closet but like kind of just like kiki-ing with with the girls the literal cis girls of corks of the grade of corks and then

one of them um well you know we don't necessarily need full full i was gonna say is this a cast where we drop first and last bo and actually drops first and last names and i'm like okay that girl's burned well i'm positive that i'm positive that that first name was ashley okay so here's what happened she had a stepfather who was this huge huge lawyer i don't know what kind of law but this big big big lawyer in town and she and i got along great and then she and i had this bit going on all freshman year that like i was gonna that we were gonna have sex oh boy like in a way that in a very like wait i don't know this yep in a very ironic way i was like we're gonna we're gonna have sex someday like this summer when should we should we should we like put in the books like when we're gonna have

sex like all this stupid stuff right um so then in the yearbook when the yearbooks came out i wrote hey ashley can't wait to fuck this summer love bowen like where it was a thing where the dynamic was clearly like bowen's not into girls and like it's, it's all in good humor. So then, yeah, you have heard this, right? Okay. So then I come home one day from my violin lesson.

Hey violin, I play too. You played, you play violin? Yes. A violin king? Yes, a violin king.

Okay. I was actually a true clarinet queen. Oh, you were a clarinet queen. A clarinet queen. We need to do as well. I was a clarinet queen with the're a clarinet queen okay we need to do as well i was a clarinet queen with the rest of the whores everyone knows that the whores play woodwind it's actually real culture

number 14 the whores play woodwinds i do believe that's true i believe that's true i do believe that's changing reeds you know it's cold i wasn't that good at violin but anyway but then violin so they come up for violin and then um there's like seven messages on the answering machine just hang ups and clicks hang ups and clicks and then we get another call we're like who who kept calling us and then we get another call no and it's from ashley stepfather, who starts off the call by saying, I just want you to know that I've been sitting here by the phone a very long time because there are a lot of yings in the phone book. And then, because Denver suburbs are very Korean. There's a heavy Korean population. But anyway, there's a lot of yings in the phone book and blah blah blah blah and then he goes this is sexual harassment you have violated my

my stepdaughter and i take my relationship with her very and and like this whole time i was like there's no fucking way that ashley like ratted me out or anything yeah what the hell but that but then but then the whole call he was like so i i'm going to do everything in my power to get the school board to expel you do everything in my power to get the school to expel to expel you to expel my aunt and then the next day i go in and then i and then i freak out and then my mom is like what are you like my mom didn't understand what's going on oh no and then um the next day before i got called into the dean's office ashley like comes to me and she's like i'm so sorry i'm so sorry like i can't like fix this did you tell her that her words were empty yes

i truly was like i your your stepfather's insane um but anyway uh and then like truly like never spoke to her again but then yeah they suspended me for five days isn't that crazy absurd absurd absurd and then i had to on my college applications i had to like explain there was like a section in like the common app and in every application where they were like have you ever been like whatever blah blah blah have you ever like been suspended explain why and i had to be like well there's a sexual harassment line item in my transcript and here's what happened and here's what i learned it was truly funny but also so so stupid did you get up to mischief ego no you know well no i i have an issue with authority so i see i don't like people telling me what to do i i never have not even as a young person um and i don't like when people

adults take a tone with me don't do that don't take a tone with me you can tell me the exact same thing son's tone and so i yeah i would get a lot of like i would i would get a lot i was sent to the principal's office quite a bit but i would then go there and then be like and now i'm going to talk to the principal like we're buddies and it's fine and they forget why i'm there and they forget that i was being disruptive or whatever um i knew this girl i knew this girl we all knew this girl we all knew this girl yes i just i but i was i good grades i i did like to have my fun in class but i was also a child of immigrants i respected adults but i just feel don't um use i'm not to be used as a scapegoat and no don't take a tone with me and we'll be fine see and i think i go this is my theory if i'm gonna armchair analyze for a second please

that that issue with authority i think has very productively and very beautifully transposed itself on your low tolerance for bullshit when you date people. Yeah. Is this fair to say? Oh, man, it's so low. I think so. It's just, I, I, I. One of my favorite things to do is listen to you talk about how stupid men are. It's the best.

I know. You know, someone is asking me during quarantine, are your any flings coming back to check up on you? Like during this quarantine, you know, it's a time everyone's got downtime. People are feeling lonely. And the answer is no. None of mine are because I have trained all my hoes and they know not they they don't. That's not an option for them. I don't.

You wouldn't have it any other way though no i don't want any of them contacting me there's no one i can think of that i'm like oh i wish he would you know if he texted me late night and i'm in a mood like i not a single person i've dealt with do i want to hear from right now um there you know what there's one person who if he there's always, there's one guy that if I'm curious, I mean, I hope to really be in love with whoever I marry. I imagine I will be, but there's one person that I'm like, man, if he texted me while I were married, I would maybe feel a, Oh, not that I would act on it, but I might go, oh, well, that's nice.

There might be a fleeting moment. Where you're just like, oh, love to hear from him. See, I always love to hear from anyone who wants to reach out. I call them the community. Whenever the community wants to reach out. And there is a community of people out there who I've spent time with, time with and if they ever want to reach out i always welcome that and this is his message to you he is saying thanks reach out yeah i'm sorry i like how you say there's people i've shared time with because i shared time dealt with they're an affliction to ego dealing with

would make it sound like I had to laboriously get through the process. I've enjoyed many processes I've processed. What are some of the names of your processes? I would actually say... Let's do first and last. First and last. Can't be naming names. Can't be naming names.

Always welcome a DM. Sloyd. And love that some of these girls during Quar are getting very horny on Maine. Oh yeah. You know that something unique to me seems to be

You don't get horny on Maine. I don't get horny on Maine. I don't give that to them. You two are a class through the main. My main is Christian. I have a Christian main. Yeah. Christian main. Christian main.

My main is born again. Okay. Yeah. Christian main is another front runner for title of app, I gotta say. Okay. We're going to take a quick break and we're gonna be right back with Ego. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that.

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Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, we're back. But my thing is, if I've ever hooked up with a person in my life, three years later, they do become the hottest person in the world. So I always say,

I'm like Dane Cook in Good Luck Chuck, but for Instagram aesthetic. Okay, okay. And that's also a little backdoor brag too. I mean, they look good when i have them and then three years later they look like someone who it's impossible they could i could ever be in the same league as them wow it's crazy what happens say the same i look back on some of mine and i go i will be by myself and think of someone i've dealt with and gone like at the out loud audible by myself and go.

So that's not, but there's one man. There's one man. I speak with him often. Is there a, would we get into it? We know who he is. No,

he doesn't do comedy. He doesn't. Of course he doesn't. He doesn't do comedy. He doesn't dabble in entertainment he can we speak in vagaries about what it what it what it is about him that we that makes him sort of still there you know i had this conversation last night about him with my friend my friend jason was like what is it about him and so here's the thing is that i am

such an alpha woman yeah that it felt he felt he seemed to out alpha me in a healthy way yeah and it was like yes i am dealing with an alpha man here who can make me feel like a little petite queen you know um definitely that i felt safe yes with him physically safe um and he is so handsome he's handsome we're talking we're talking i mean he is black white native american i mean come on come on okay so then because this is interesting because i feel like the thing that i the thing that i you're like looking good look looking down at yourself going through your head i'm going through it this is a music video on the beach b-roll music video on the beach she's

shaking her head oh my gosh well okay because i feel like a lot of guys you hate that you hate when a lot of guys stonewall you or they're just idiots and they like don't give you any sort of like well room to like there's no entry point with a lot of these men well yeah i i feel like i don't i unfortunately i'm not i don't know if what flirtation looks like to me is normal i'm like i like to i'm like let me roast you um yeah you like the neg well so if i actually okay so here's the thing if i actually like a guy um i become very shy so there is no necking it's like very like i'm like this big um but that almost never happens that's so what i'm like on an on a date normally is like i'm driving the conversation um if i feel he has thick enough skin i will roast

him um but honestly yeah i'm not i don't want to be like that i want to be a i don't know how to this is what happens with them is that i think that i'm not like i don't flirt properly so um i maybe have walls up that i don't even see and so they don't know what to do with that but yeah rest assured the man that I'm talking about that could have it now should he reach out and want it. If he today or any day wanted to reach out, he could. I mean, I knew him for a very short amount of time. And I think about him how many years later? It's six years. sometimes those happen those are the hardest ones there was i i was like

i hung out with this guy one time in college i went to visit my friend allison at college and um like i met her one gay friend whose name was also Matt. And I thought about that boy for seven, eight years. And no one could ever really compete. Yeah. Not until I had my first boyfriend like years later did I like really let that guy go. Still to this day, sometimes I'll just go to the Instagram and be like, What could have been? What could have been?

Does Matt what? Does Matt look good? Yeah. He looks good. Where is he now? Can we talk about him? Yeah, for sure. I don't care.

He lives outside of Boston. He has a boyfriend. It's like, whatever. It's been so many years and I don't even know what his deal is now. But do you remember this guy, Bowen? We were in a sketchbook when we went up to Boston. You met him.

Because I was so excited he was going to be there. I was like, we were going to be in the same city. And then time passes and things change, but I will always have that weekend. At the University of Massachusetts Amherst. Amherst? That. Amherst? That's where Dakota went to college. Who is Miss Dakota? Dakota's the one we're talking about?

Dakota's the one I'm talking about. Oh, shit. We're using first and first names. That's, yes. Wait, UMass Amherst actually secretly has that bomb dick, apparently. They apparently got that bomb dick. It's actually Rilla Culture number 17.

UMass Amherst has that bomb dick, apparently. Okay. I was in love with this boy. It was unbelievable. I've never felt anything like that. It's the closest to love I've ever felt. Yes, I love this. I've never been in love, and I'm pretty sure it's the closest to...

I knew him for one week, and then we saw each other again a year later for one day. It's a holiday, Christmas Eve. Have you ever seen the movie Go the Distance with Drew Barrymore? Yes, Justin Long. And Justin Long? Me and this guy used to text each other that that was our movie. Come on. Because it was like a bad lldr i need to i'm gonna watch this

because i'm a real simp underneath all these girls this is a good movie and i have a very very very very soft spot for drew barrymore okay okay all she is she is something special She has a thing Yes Ever asked her We all asked them Okay Yes Bowen you must name one I don't mean to put you on the spot Honestly

It took me a while It took me a while to think of one But E.T. is the one I landed on E.T. of course Josh Sharpe showed Our other king josh sharp all three of us yes we all love a josh sharp we we bow to josh we really do we serve at his pleasure he played me the screen test for the kid who played elliot have you seen this genius yeah

kid's amazing crazy he just now i need to look this up as well you gotta look this up ego it's basically like this kid who ended up booking um elliot in et giving an audition that we as actors respect okay we must respect and it's timeless okay it really is and they he booked the role in the audition they tell him right after they cut does that happen in hollywood anymore though in the room booking I don't know about in the room a film in the room in the room wouldn't you rather just be offer only huh

wouldn't you rather just be offer only I would love to be offer only I'd love to not put makeup on travel to the audition place wait in a room I think you're offer only

at this point King you'd be surprised how many people want me to do a self tape oh god have we all done at least one self tape in quarantine yeah she doesn't do them i don't do them and so i was asked to do one in quarantine this was like week one and i go what no we're in the middle but you i bet you audition

well though i you know what i have found a way i'm not even a lie I can be like bashful here don't be bashful but to be honest I have found a way I can what's your way can you summarize it can you summarize your way and you are very good you pop on my way I just thank you king gas me king I'll gas you all you damn want up the cheese hole gas me my way is I decided that i'm like you get to this is the corniest actor-y thing i'm about to say but it's my way you you get to have five minutes to put on a gd show put on a show and do whatever you want and and honestly i had a casting executive tell me to throw it like throw out breakdowns. This is in 2016. She's like, the breakdown is nothing.

We don't know. She's like, throw it away. Yeah, no one knows. It doesn't matter. So I put on a show, a beginning, middle, and end. I kid you not. Wow. In my auditions.

And I have the most fun because of it. I mean, I don't miss auditioning, to be clear. But I found a way to make it work for me. Yeah. You gamified it or whatever. I for the longest time had such a hard time in auditions and they made me nervous and they made me, I remember I felt like a very, like whatever, I'll just say whenever I went as was on stage, I always felt really powerful. And then when I would get in the audition room, I felt like I lost all my power. And I didn't know what it was. And finally, I took a session with an acting coach who used to be a casting director.

And she told me, she was like, you need to understand that it doesn't fucking matter. And you need to go in there and have fun. Because that is everything. It's the same thing as being on stage. When and have fun because that is everything. It's the same thing as being on stage when you have fun, they have fun. It's the same thing as auditioning. Go in there, you have nothing to lose because you don't have the job yet

and go in there and be confident and have a good time and even just hearing the words, which I knew deep inside, but even just hearing those words like, you gotta let it go and you gotta have fun was so helpful. And the results for me in the past 18 months, as opposed to where I was, have been night and day. Yeah.

Yeah. It's so rudimentary in that I will tell friends that I'm like, oh, you just have to have fun and like do what the fuck you want. Like truly just be like, oh, I'm going to. Great. These are the words. Great. I'm going to honor them, whatever. But I'm going to have so much fun and you hate to hear it because it just sounds like someone's throwing

you like cliche advice but it's actually the thing and to make it work for you don't try to do the sides make the sides work for you that is huge advice that that i could give yes and i love this beginning middle and end thing i go that's genius yeah i i this is who i had a general recently and this executive was nagging me which was funny actually it's kind of funny because generals i don't love but this was kind of funny and this is why i take toxic men um because i think it's kind of funny because i think mean men are funny um so he was making fun of my uh law and order menendez murders credit where i played juror number cannot remember maybe 12 maybe cannot remember cannot remember my juror number i do believe my name was lynn though

as well but um let me tell you uh that paid for this laptop we're we're zooming thank you thank you dick wolf thank you dick wolf um so uh i that audition was one line it was like two sentences one line for this recurring role um and it i remember being like i had like a weird one the day before for something else and then for this one one, I was like, this is two sentences, like two and a half sentences. I'm like, great. This game changer this day where I go, we're going to beginning, middle and end this shit. So I had like a baby seen up top with no words that because I was also the last person they saw. I was going in at the end of the day.

That's how the sign in sheet had a million people for juror number 12. I also the last person they saw i was going in at the end of the day that saw the sign-in sheet had a million people for juror number 12 i was the last person um it's like 6 45 i do a beginning no words and then i do the actual words and then i have an end and then it was like and she booked it and she wow and i was like oh that's what they want you need to do this you need to do this all the time because that just proves it out there's no sides that are too short for beginning middle and end and also like this myth of that you have to do exactly the words like

I don't know how you guys feel but if I don't feel like I have enough in my self tapes I improvise like I recently went on tape for something and it was a comedic role and I knew that it was a series regular in a large part. But it just so happened that in the sides there were just no – there was not a lot of jokes. So like I thought if I do this on tape and I'm not even in the room with a casting director, they're going to see this and it's going to look basic and like nothing.

And so I gave myself – and like even just like making a character choice beforehand and being like this is the perspective that's where i'll improvise based off of just give yourself fill the time because they're only going to get the tape they're not going to be able to say hello and goodbye to you and strike up a conversation with you based on the even the weather so if you are doing a self-tape fill the self self-tape up. Yes. And even kind of do like the, you know, put the conversation in there. Like, hey, how's it going?

And then pause and wait for them to respond. King is trying to drag you. King. King. No, I'm not dragging anybody here. These are two actors. You two, and I'm going to say it,

and I just want to say this as a way to compliment my kings and exalt my kings but these two are better actors than me combined and me combined to me combined king that's an actual lie when king when my king did his update week two of his first season on saturday night live a program that has been on air for more than 12 seasons. More than 12 years. Okay. I was like, wow, a performer, a true performer, captivating, you know. And by the way, I just want to also, I'm having a moment right now. Give the moment.

The moment, I'm looking at both of you right now and I go, I'm in the presence of royalty. This is not a bit. This isn't a bit. This isn't a gas. This is realness. Because game show, fantastic. And my friend Vonzel sings on it. Girl, we have to stan Vonzel.

Your house band could never. She makes the whole show. You did the showcase with Vonzel? Yes. And that is my oh my goodness that voice the number of times i've made her sing for me there are videos on my phone of her singing for me over the course of the last few years i yes it was true wish fulfillment to even have her on the show because i was truly that girl who was voting american idol season four didn't even see carrie underwood

didn't see her all eyes on van zel all eyes on van zel up until way past my bedtime school day the next day one eight six six idols oh whatever number i had to type for miss van zel thank you for voting for contestant six whatever number she was von zell and then every now and then they would do the special treat of being like hi this is von zell and thank you for voting for me watch american idol tomorrow for the results and i was always like yes but oh my gosh slay slay slay slay she's so good on game show and even to meet her was you guys you guys i'm just having a moment where I'm like, wait, these people aren't regular. Girl, king.

King. I'm having a moment where I look at you two and I'm like, wait, let me let this really sink in here. Because we're doing this remote. But I'm like, honey, you guys are like the real damn deal. This is my soulmate. I stand and I truly love and I exalt because, of course, it's King. But I really want to say, like, it's bumming me out that we all can't be in the same room because I was about to fly to New York, babe, to do this in the flesh.

And I thought, oh, great, great. I can have my moment with Ego. And so now we have to do the moment remote. And it is the great tragedy of Quar. We will do it again. It is. It is. We'll have to do it again because I would love to, I would love for us to have our in room moment.

I really wanted to do this. I, it's going to happen again. It's going to happen again. It will happen again. But right after this break, we are going to have actually the true beginning of the episode here. Now,

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I didn't realize how old the hot dog was. Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, we're back with Ego. Ego, first, before we get to the question i have to say there's a lot of exalting happening because it is king but this is this is king this is king i'm talking we're talking to one of my true soulmates one of like my partners at that damn show and you need your damn was gonna say you must really need good friends there you do are you kidding me

imperative okay would not make it without like my lowest damn moments oh you've seen me you've seen me this season you caught me in the hallway slipping i was oh no and then anytime you like come into my dressing room my dr we going to talk shop for just one second. Talk shop! I just, it's always so welcome. And then, like, truly, like, I, and then I think about, like, conversations that you and I have just had one-on-one where we just get real about stuff when, like, things are crazy.

And we're just, I'm just, like, thank God. Because the amount of isolation you feel, I mean, I'm just thinking about like being like loneliness in general now especially but like in some ways i feel like that job sets you up to be good at being alone and it is isolating and in some ways that like thickens your skin whatever but like yeah the moments where you do get like solidarity with people you're just like oh thank god and this is such a blessing and like honestly and not to not to like i'm not even comparing it but it's like you and heini too like the thing you you guys have is like so special i love heidi gardner she is like it's my baby that's my baby my baby

like she's connecting all of us yeah but i i i'm really excited excited because when I think about work, because I'm like, oh, there are people there in this very hard place that I'm like, your heart is good. Your soul is good. We have a real genuine connection. We are for one another. And you can be frustrated and discouraged and disappointed, but still simultaneously be celebrating your friend and wanting to support your friend. And that feels really special, like a special thing we have.

And I was talking to someone who is an exec at the Peacock and it was like, that's not always the case here. So it's not always that. So I feel really fortunate to be here at a time's not always the case here so it's not always that so i feel really fortunate to be here at a time where that is the case and there are people that i feel connected to and i love i'm always in bowen's dressing room it's so comfy and just i'm and sometimes i'm like i'm that annoying neighbor who just won't leave and is always and i have a i apparently i knock like a police officer that's what chris does chris chris is always like you knock like the police but i don't

know any other way to knock so i am just it's perfect it makes me chris red everyone who doesn't know the prince of my heart i adore you king and i really am i mean we are exalting we're exalting because this is king because this is king this is the space for that let me just i'm just we're exalting the kingdom here that exists this is a kingdom but um but i i today i think i called somebody and i was like king and i was like oh, that's not for you. It quite literally didn't feel right. And not because I don't love the person, not because they're not lovely and correct in so many ways. But I was like, oh, that's not, that's not what I call you.

Just not King. Not everyone is King. Not everyone can be in the royal family. Thank you. Okay. And actually, this is something I want to be highlighted. Not everyone is king and that's something i do need the royal family thank you okay and actually this is something i want to be highlighted not everyone is king make no mistake make no mistake it's actually rural culture number 91 not everyone is king not everyone can be born into the royal family okay all right i'm glad we got that out of the way. I feel good about that. I wanted to say, because I feel it's a good opportunity to highlight someone,

I wanted to express my condolences to you guys for the loss of your friend, Hal. Hal Wilmer. Yeah. That was very sad to hear about, and I've heard from several people that worked there what an amazing person and amazing talent he was, and I thought that was really classy of snl to have that piece where all the cast and people involved with the show were talking about about about him and his his goodness and his talent yeah he was just he

yeah he was someone who like um was kind of like came with the job like you got there and he was just that person who like yeah he's been there yeah yeah Hal never introduced himself to me but just started talking to me like my first season and it's the like it's so the people who've been there for so long and do things like that I'm like oh it makes you feel seen and sometimes you feel invisible and And so you so, so special in that way. So I'm definitely going to miss him, but that was a really touching, special tribute. Yeah.

Imagine, imagine I set that up and Ega was just like, well, he never introduced himself to me. Well, he never introduced himself to me. So, so I can't comment.

So Bo, I'm going to say whatever you need to say about the piece. And then I guess we're going to go into my whole culture thing. Oh, my God. So I have nothing to say. He actually never introduced himself to me. So I was reading everyone else's tributes. And I said, okay.

They all knew him. So good for them. Okay, okay, they knew him. Literally laughing. Okay, Bowen, it's time for you to ask the question of King. This is the question that we have to ask King, which is, King, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me? This is the culture that really pivoted your life into a cultural direction. You said, I want to be a part of culture.

I think the real moment was the i can't say a day nor a time but an era the bad boy the bad boy entertainment era him yeah remix of crush on you with all the colors the blue wig the red wig the yellow with the matching furs yes um original i was i believe at that point eight years old a young thought if you will a young shot i was a young thought and i was just like yes want to bumble with the bee huh but that's from all about the benjamin's remix but crush on you she that the colors in that popped. She was such a badass. Yeah.

Bully herself. And that's when I... And just that entire era, the Mace, the Diddy. I mean, at times, Loon was part of it. Mary J. Blige was part of it. Yes, yes. Faith Evans. That whole conglomerate was just like, yes, culture is for me.

Culture is for me. Hardcore is an album that is like all killer no filler no skips no damn skips big mama thing on hardcore like do i remember a truly i was i guess i was comparatively comparatively late to the game with little kim and what we can get to the rest of bad boy sure um but with little kim the first time i remember the first time i do remember the day and the place in the time that i was first introduced to lil kim which was which was the lady marmalade video and i was like who the fuck is that and like was just obsessed and it just because back then like no one was doing what she was doing like i mean on red carpets for sure but even just in terms of like overt

sexuality it was like no one was on that level. Yeah. And even before that, the titty out at the freaking, the Diana Ross jiggle MTV. I mean, yes, absolutely.

The pasty. She put the pasties on the map. She put the, and I believe Diddy's, um, Misa Hilton, who is Diddy's, one of Diddy's baby's mamas,

styled Lil' Kim. That's like the most iconic thing she's done. And that will forever go down in history, the way she dressed her. You know, she really does get lost in the conversation. And that is why I think people are always like, why are these female rappers coming for each other? It's like because you all move on and don't pay respect. And it's like the way that women get it in general. It's like people just move on.

And once they turn 40 or whatever, historically, it's like with rappers, it's even worse. Because it really feels sometimes like like or has historically felt like there could only be one and i feel like that gets into their heads because there is truth behind it and that's why the feuds pop off and the thing is and i and i wish there's such power now in not like subscribing to that way of thought that there could only be one and yes the first a long time that just was the sort of the case though saying where it could only be one minority on a tv show or what have you but it's not that's not the case anymore so to see female rappers not like big upping each other is truly devastating detrimental and i think takes us back quite a bit in a way we don't need we don't

need for that to be the case yeah but i look him yeah she all with all due respect because i'm like she that's like that overt sexuality the crass nature of her lyrics all of that i'm like you have to give it up to her you have to give it up iconic yes yes iconic her and biggie having like recording themselves having sex or it was just a skit on biggie's first album yeah but i remember listening to that like as a teenager and being like oh my that's and like someone was like that's little kim and i was like what and just yeah and then that opened up like she was like the entry point into like biggie and and and diddy and like and just and all of that like i like. Like from a queer perspective or just from like an other perspective,

like she was like the person who like shepherded you into all of that. And now it's like, and then you like gain an appreciation for like the whole collective of people that was. And it's beautiful. It is. It's so special. I, you know, some, there's also this thing that like bad boy ruined some careers as well, which I find to be funny and mildly true. Sure, sure, sure.

Because Diddy was always most concerned with Diddy, which can often be human nature, right? Yeah. I mean, that entire, so many of them that don't even make music anymore. I mean, there's, I Need a Girl part one and part two. Yep. There's two parts to it. There's two parts. We don't even know where Loon is. I feel like I will randomly Google people from that time, that era, and be like, where are they now? And I think Loon might be in jail or he got in trouble for smuggling some stuff i do

know that at some point loon we love that what happened to mace mace became a pastor and then he yeah mace became a pastor he i don't believe he's still a pastor but recently he was um i months ago i had read something about him being like, did he give me either money or my masters like of his music or something? It was one or the other. Like you owe me. Yeah. Yeah. So it,

it might not be all family spirit right now. Yeah, exactly. It's, I don't know that it is, but I did see, did he go live yesterday and he played been around the world remixed with, uh,

Mace and him. And he, because it was requested by a rod and j-lo who were on the live with him right there was a big moment that j-lo and diddy were on the same wow oh my god wow didn't even make a connection yeah there was no couple bigger no i was like is there chemistry what's that Yeah, but it was fine. A-Rod was present. And then he left at some point. But yeah.

And then he left them alone. He left them alone to have a conversation. To catch up. I will never forget that night that they got arrested, the two of them. Oh, yeah. I don't think I remember this. Oh, this was culture. It broke them up. It really was. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Wait, I don't think I remember this. Oh, this was culture. This was the thing that broke them up.

It really was. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. It really was. I forget exactly what went down, but I remember it was like Jennifer Lopez at that time was really on the up and up. Like she was like becoming it. Like I don't know if this was right around the time

she dropped on The Six, and like her movie career was popping off. and then i remember they they had like something happened and it was like a shoot up in the club and they're like yeah honestly yeah his entourage pulled a gun out or yeah yep yeah that's what it was and you know who took the fall for that was um shine oh um what's up shine bonnie and clyde was his song right but no bonnie and shine something like that but anyway he took the fall he went to he went to um prison but j-lo i think that was her moment where she's like you are gonna fuck up my life yeah if this is the company you know i think we're done here and she got arrested she did they both got arrested yeah

she was cuffed cuffed and like she wasn't yeah she actually had experience in hustlers she did she did she drew from that but yeah bad boy was so iconic and made some of my favorite music and the thing is i think i now am such a sucker for sample songs because uh because of bad boys so much of their music was sampled at like the production of it was it was sampled music and it turned me into this person who's like oh i love a simple song now i also love oldies as a result yep remember the song the song Ghetto Superstar? It was ODB and Maya. Yes, Maya. That was like Maya's introduction. Yes.

I remember I was so gagged like 10 years later when I found out that was an Islands in the Stream. Yes. I thought it was Maya or Ghetto Superstar originally. I was like, oh, Dolly Parton.

And yeah. Ghetto Superstar. Islands in the Stream. I was like oh dolly parton and yeah you're like what is this i was like you're telling me this is some kenny rogers dolly parton shit and it's up in this odb uh maya song crazy yeah well that's i i mean i have those moments still where i'll be like yes my shit is about to come on when i'm listening to the radio or something when am i listening to the radio but like a movie and i'm like yes this is my shit and then i'm like oh no it's not because i don't know this this is the original of that song yeah this is actually i didn't know shaka cons through the wire i mean through the fire i only knew kanye west through the wire and then i heard through the then i heard through the fire and i was like oh this is the moment

that was that was me for touch the sky kanye west and then um move on up like i was like oh wow like yes this is i mean like kanye i guess was kind of the spiritual successor to all that but it was like yes like sampling songs is like a thing where like people like us learn about the thing. And we kind of like, that is the synecdoche for the other. I don't know. It's,

it's, it's great. Also, you have to say bad boy and Diddy providing the best years of making the band. Oh my gosh. They're bringing, making the band back by the way.

Didn't they try? Haven't they tried to bring it back so many times? Apparently I know, but yeah, they, well now I don't know that they are because they tried to bring it back so many times apparently i know but yeah they well now i don't know that they are because they were having auditions in the middle before the pandemic hit um so maybe that's on pause but i think they're serious about but making the band was my shit when he made them go get the cheesecake i was i could not believe he made them walk to get cheesecake from juniors i was like do you really want this do you really want this career if

you really want it you'll walk and get the cheesecake truly abuse so abusive i was this to the danny d cane girls who was this too this was to like the the hip-hop army yeah i'm trying to think it was like do you remember oh babe you just said the word babs and blew my mind. Do you remember Mysterious? Wait. Only because you're saying this? She was like the sort of plus-sized girl in the group. Or maybe she almost made the group, but her name was Mysterious. And she

didn't end up making it to the end, but girl, that was a good season of TV. That was good. Babs Bunny! Babs, the biggest moment Girl, that was a good season of TV. That was good. I forgot about the season. Babs Bunny. Babs. Okay, Babs.

Babs, the biggest moment for me was Babs. Ness and Fred, who were in the band with her, were going to fight. And then Franzworth Bentley was at the house and going to break up the fight. And then she was just like, let them fight. Let them fight. Like her thing being like, they need to have this fight. It's going to be cathartic for both of them. This will be the thing that finally squashes their beef.

Please do not break up this physical altercation. It's going to save us all. And then I'm trying to think Babs. Okay. They were literally called da band. Da band. D-A-B-A-N-D. That's what they would always say.

Yep. Yep. Yep. That's exactly how they, they went on 106 and park and intro themselves it's the d a b a and d and they all sit down um i'm sure it was true it was i have the wikipedia up yes sarah stokes was the singer by the way i just need to touch on that seemed innocent as all hell i think like stabbed her okay stabbed her husband like years like 10 years ago like if you look where's sarah stokes now you

will find that something happened she was arrested for something sarah then there was babs enos freddie p chopper and dylan dylan yeah dylan who i swear on the first season his name was dylan and then he came back the second season and i spit hot fire and i'm like where did the accent i don't remember you having an accent and i remember your name being dylan he he found the accent that hallie berry lost in x-men wow the shade. The shade. I pulled up something on Sarah Stokes. Are we ready? Okay, yeah. We need to know.

The first sentence is already insane and so cruel. Okay, here we go. Sarah Stokes, loosely termed, quote unquote, star of MTV's Making the Band 2. The shade. Was arrested after stabbing her husband, Tony, several times in full view of their three children. No.

Yeah, and Sarah seemed like not like that. Right, right. Girl, she just had a healthy mix and was going about her business. She compartmentalized that shit. She did. I said, wow, Sarah. Sarah, I said wow. I said wow, Sarah.

Damn. Who knew you had it in you? wow, Sarah. Damn. Who knew you had it in you? Damn, bird. He was... And then Farnsworth Bentley, I didn't... I saw him at the airport recently with his wife. Where were we? Were we at the airport?

Maybe. I don't know. But I saw Farnsworth Bentley and I'm like, your whole persona has changed because he was like a hop, skippy, umbrella- wearing bow tie moment yeah yeah no i'm gonna pass on he seemed normal as hell the last i'm like two months ago i'm like yeah you seem normal i don't that was a whole shtick like a thing yeah things are fine i have so much to thank diddy for and i mean really changed my entire, my childhood.

I have a picture of Lil' Kim on my wall in my office. Yes, I can confirm. Yeah. What era is the poster from? I think it's from Hardcore. Hardcore. Yeah. Yeah, it's Hardcore.

You know, sometimes it can be a little tough to see Kim now, just because I think that the industry and the years get cruel to people that that are from that generation like think about it like if you were famous in the 90s if you were major famous in the 90s and like involved in like the tabloid of it all and the major fame of it all very few of them are like still uh hanging in there in a cool way and she was on um the tyler henry hollywood medium yes do you know about this no he is a twink psychic who's able to talk to um people who have passed on and he has celebrities and the whole bit is he doesn't know any of the celebrities until they arrive so but she came to his house and she walked in and he was like i immediately knew who this was

and so she sat down and they have this whole conversation where he's like connecting with people who have crossed over from her life. And you as the viewer are just waiting for Biggie to come up. Yeah. He comes up. He does. So basically they're, they're going to a commercial and then he goes,

is there anything else that you want to know about, about Biggie? Because it's clear that she really wanted to connect with him. And she just goes, well, I think everyone would want to know who shot him. And then they cut to commercial, and you think for a second that this E show starring a blonde twink

is going to reveal the answer to who shot Biggie. Who shot him? And they come back, and he's like okay cool definitely can answer that absolutely and he's like scribbling in his book and then all of a sudden he looks up and he goes huh because his whole his whole thing is he just goes hmm huh okay interesting okay huh huh and then she's like what's like, well, he says that it was definitely someone that some people that he knew also knew. Wow. And she goes, oh, my God, yes, that makes so much sense.

Because he actually brought us into the recording studio and he said that he thought something was going to go down. And then he's like, like yeah so there you go and she's like thank you you helped me I said wow I said wow I said wow Kim I said wow and Sir Medium

I absolutely said wow that had to have been a produced thing where they were like okay and Kim this is where you kind of set up the like the act break she was fully getting her check on that episode she was just like all right what do i have to say where am i seeing the behind the scenes of that conversation that called to her to be like can you will you do this also like about this he was like tyler henry tollywood tyler henry hollywood medium twinkink psychic, which is what I call him, was fully telling her like,

okay, so I'm connected with him and he wants me to know, he wants you to know flat out that you were the love of his life. And she was like, really? Oh my God, yes, I was. And then I was like,

he was famously married to Faith Evans, a woman who is still very much around. Still alive and still alive and probably watching married to stevie j now which is a real twist uh who's stevie j i don't know it's somebody from love and hip-hop i don't watch love and hip-hop but i know he's like i always hear his name in relation to it and so he is a main player on love and hip-hop well speaking of love and hip-hop like cardi b we were talking about uh before how they don't it's tough for them to like show each other love now just because of

how competitive it is she really is on her instagram shouting out other female rappers shouting out young talents she really is like i remember i chucked out a few of the people that she was talking about because she i think realizes that she doesn't want to turn into nikki minaj and i know i respect the queen but but but i think that you know nikki being the sort of cardi b of her situation with kim has now real i think that cardi b recognizes a cycle yeah yeah i'm glad i mean i really love cardi so lover um i i really really love cardi and i did see her shout out those female rappers i'm curious because i know megan and nikki apparently are friendly and i've never seen like the cardi and megan like are they cool or not cool what's that

interesting we're not big upping we're not big upping megan so i'm but i am happy that cardi is trying making some effort some some public effort to be supportive yeah megan seems to not want to get in the fray too much just in terms of the beef of it all i feel like i feel like she like saw the nikki thing as a way to, I don't know. It's not transactional. I don't know what I'm saying. I just think that Megan is being very tactful and strategic about this whole thing. And she just seems like she's someone who probably doesn't want to start too much craziness either.

Yes. She hasn't even really begun yet i mean like it's just now that the you know it probably rap fans have known about her from for quite a while but like in terms of the general public she's just now breaching the surface of people really getting to know megan the stallion and i feel like you know it's the fact that she even has to like deal like with people waiting for the next big feud is like such a shame that these girls have to deal with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you a big fan as well of Megan? I do love Megan.

Big Ol' Freak is like, it's a sample song. We know how I feel about sample songs. And she's got a good flow i do i love megan and when we met her at the show she was so good she's cool she's so sweet but you know megan the stallion i was, this is in fact a stallion. When you meet her, you're like, that's a stallion. That is a full woman. She was the most beautiful person I've ever seen. And then I've never seen Sam Jay more into someone.

Sam Jay was like, God, she's so fucking hot. Yeah, Sam Jay was on this show about to pop off. On Megan? About Megan being like, this is the most beautiful woman in the world. She's stunning. Could make you jump into very, very dangerous oceans. Oh. Yes, okay.

Leap into blazing fires. Blazing fires. Wait, Ago, was I with you at Good Nights when Chance hosted? Because I talked to Megan at Good Nights. I saw you talk to her. I think we hugged, and then maybe maybe Megan came and you were like, okay, fuck off, bitch.

No, no. Don't do me. And then he was like, I'll see you on. I'll see you at the after party. I'll see you there. I have to,

let me talk to Megan first. But I did see you talk to her. I think it was, was it you and Chloe? Oh yeah. Yeah. It was me you and chloe it was oh yeah yeah it was me and chloe and she was just like we were like we're like we love you so much and thank you for doing this and she was like i was watching from the dressing room and i was like that looks fun i want to do that really the way you just did that that's such a good but that's

how she no that's not like yeah that was my megan i mean but it was kind of good i was like that that feels i don't know the way she has like a bubbly voice because you think that sounded listening to her music. You would think her voice is like deep and stallion ask and interviews. She's like very like bubbly and like bright. Yeah, she's bright and bubbly. She had her southern twang to, you know, yeah. Texas.

Like you see the video where she talks. And he was like, I was like, what did she say? And he was like, well, she was like this yeah i wanted to do that and i'm like is that your is that actually how she talks exactly how the stallions sound it's yeah it's exactly how she sounds like no she she the the i just recently saw a video of her talking about fighting like girls fighting and she was like hell no oh yeah oh yeah was this the pitchfork thing it was a pitchfork thing yes it was very funny it was very funny good for you she's like nails cost too much it all is too much and i'm like 100 i feel you on that okay but the three of us are also like

we're also like nikki we're also barbs though i'm a big barb i'm a barb i'm a barb but barb i need barb to be kinder yeah belcalis almanzar yeah you're right you're right i need barb to be a little kinder because it's just not becoming to be but i don't know the deets right so like i don't want to like chime in and be like this is what you should be doing or how you should be handling it because i don't know what's going on behind the scenes right but anytime she goes on like queen Radio and just kind of like goes off, you're like, this, this feels, this sounds chaotic because I think she and kind of what we have loved about her is that she is this very like diffusely chaotic person. And so you're just kind of like, you can't really, as like, as like a fan, I can't really like latch on to anything she's saying when she's like trying to like defend herself i'm like okay but what what does this even mean i think she's confused about what people want from her yeah and i also think that she pretends to be unbothered when she's really kind of bothered oh and i yeah i think that she um

you know you've never really had to in in the beginnings of her career, her first ever albums, you never really had to worry about her being on the defensive because she always has seemed so invincible. And I think that people just are not kind to women and especially black women over time, especially when you do have a shiny new young thing, even though they are literally so different and i never think when i'm listening to one comparing them to the other it's just

literally in terms of content it's different in terms of like style it's different delivery it's different type of music it's different background influence all different so for me it's like i think that it's a lot of the call is coming from inside the house the monster is within with her because you know the music didn't get worse it's still good i mean her albums are still good yeah and i think if there's one thing that's not happening with nikki it's that she doesn't really deliver you pop singles anymore, but that's because everyone got at her for doing pop singles. I mean, and like, it is so much more difficult to be someone who's crossing over from rap

because you do the pop singles because you can do it. I mean, she had bops on bops, like super bass and starships. And I mean, what have you pound the alarm, all these songs that had amazing pop books, and she was a very good pop star.

But then people are so much harder for her by all angles because she loses quote-unquote credibility because she is who she is at the end of the day. And I think she has just gotten in her head to a point where it's just like hopefully not the point of no return, but you add Cardi in the mix there, and it was like just a bad mix of things for her yeah i think that's a great diagnosis actually i'm like you're like yikes yikes which is like not a pop but it's it's so good could not stop playing it

when i heard it um i do think that she is trying to balance that street cred because she feels she's trying to hold on to that while maybe Cardi B is kind of taking grab of that. But there's enough to go around. We have hundreds of male rappers. And I'm like, we can have hundreds of female rappers. Let's do it. Let's, you know.

But I'm sure. I can tell it's a good pop song, though. Absolutely. I mean, look, it might not be like all Max Martin-produced shit, but it's still really good. And I mean, the thing is to it, it really does all can be boiled down to sexism. And unfortunately, she also fell into the

wrong side of a like sort of dichotomy the trope which is cardi is a nice person and nikki is a mean person and so you have your good verse evil narrative and you know what i mean people like whether or not it's true and you do hear things about like the way nikki behaves but it's something that we all used to embrace her for and now because we have something else we're like never mind she's mean and not a good person meanwhile we used to love when she would say bossed up we used to love when she would point out like how people in her industry behave that way and look the other way when they're men like we used to love that about her

and I feel like people are now conveniently deciding to move on it's a shame because she is the queen yeah gotta give her

her props she is and no one's funnier either you said no one's funnier no one's funnier so funny than Nikki than Onika

I think she's so funny Cardi's funny too see see this is where you lose me matt i mean in the i mean in the raps themselves okay okay okay okay okay okay okay who's the funniest i don't mean like comedian because i think cardi is hilarious is so fucking funny like yeah i could name i when i first discovered her instagram years ago yeah i sat and i just i went down a rabbit hole i was like everything is so funny and one that sticks out to me from the last what year and a half maybe even two years at this point is her when people see her at target though have you seen that video where she's like if you see

me at target like don't come up to me yelling like talk about what am i doing to target the same thing you're doing stealing you know that she is a talk show what it's called it's called it's called wash poppin wow she's gonna do it from her bed oh my god perfect i love literally they're paying her a billion dollars for that i have a bed talk now i feel like must change it if cardi's doing a talk show from her bed i gotta think of something else king change nothing king no but cardi is cardi there's so many queens in the que the kingdom and there's several kings in the kingdom there's a lot of kings but not everybody is royalty

okay no not everyone can be born into the royal family not everyone can be born into the royal family some people's friends will be like

girl you don't need him you're the prize sometimes I hear it with people and I go I don't know she ain't a prize she's not a prize I don't know

she ain't a prize you're a good friend actually you're a good friend actually you're a good friend actually actually now all this culture spilleth over and we are at that point where we gotta do i don't think so honey now ego actually has graced us with her presence at our live shows yeah and speaking of live shows bitch i feel like we are itching and scratching to do another live show but you know the quarantine makes it very difficult i was thinking about

this bowen yes about how i'm craving the live experience me too i was thinking about it before this and like how fun that was to do and i don't that was so fun a true blast we may have to do something virtual and we might have to feature King. We might have to feature King. I mean, King is willing and I feel like if you did something virtual, the numbers would be popping. It's all about the numbers. It's all about the numbers.

Ultimately, it's all about the numbers. I only bring this up because numbers. Let me tell you something. Some people do things virtually. Yes. To little. To a small audience, you say? To a small audience. say to a small audience okay

and that's okay that's nobody's fault that's nobody's fault because honestly my whole thing is if you are bringing joy to one person corny as it may be the job you're doing a job yes so um but this is one if you were to do live i do believe would be people would be hungering and i think we all have things even the quarantined souls of comedians are desperate to rant about some things right now we are because i actually are but i got one i had i was like oh she had options okay she had a list i had a list honey okay king king is the funniest i gotta say wait hold on one thing that king did speaking of quarantine content the one of the highlights of quarantine so far for me has been when king and heidi gardner did an instagram live home shopping network bit and

they were playing these characters and at one point this made me howl in my damn apartment at one point um they're just they're just bantering in between items, products. And then Heidi's like, what was your character's name again? My character's name was Justina Pinch. Justina. Heidi goes, Justina, if you weren't working on Home Shopping Network, what would you be doing? What would your job be? And then Echo goes, I would be a thief.

I would be a thief. Oh, man. That was fun. I would be a thief. That would be a thief. Yes. Bitch don't want to work. That's the reality.

You don't really want to work. King called in and that was so fun. And I feel like more things like that should happen in what I predict will be another eight weeks of quarantine yes oh no really King I had to I have to ask for your forgiveness

because King was really considering leaving New York no no no I'm gonna like tell him myself because King was considering leaving New York City in the early weeks of quarantine. And she was really stressing out. And she was like, I should go to LA and be with my sister.

Is it okay that I'm talking about this? Yes, this is great. Okay. She was like, I should be with my sister. My sister has a house in LA. I should go to LA. This was the first week. And then Heidi's like, i was talking to ego today

and she's she's not sure what to do and i was like okay i was like okay cool well then i'll i'll reach out and sure and i basically convinced you to stay in new york because i was like this won't go on for more than like two or three oh my god i blame myself no but king here's the thing do you blame you no king the thing is that um uh this was the right choice i did not you think so like no it was and i'm not even saying that to make you feel better it is good it is the correct choice i have my own space i am like i'm not in anyone's way no one's in my way i'm not sick of anyone i it's just me and and i have all my stuff so much stuff and i was gonna go to la and like in a panic and like packed my whole thing was like yeah i'm gonna pack everyone's gonna be second home eventually

la is gonna get locked down too so i'm gonna pack five sweatshirts and five pairs of pants and underwear and that's all i'll need i won't even need makeup so that's what i was like losing it matt do you understand i'm just gonna which i get like that's who wouldn't be but like the idea that i thought like i was gonna be content with five sweatshirts i like that was my plan because i had i had it packed i had booked a flight i was like i was like if i'm gonna go i'll decide in the morning on the day of the flight and then i and i was like i haven't done anything but what'll happen is once i do make up my mind when i wake up that's all i'll do it won't even require any thought five sweatshirts five pants you go to la you're gonna

be stuck in the house anyway so fucking glad i did not really okay hell yes this yeah i wish i if i owned a house there personally i'd be like absolutely that's where i want to be because for space and just air but otherwise i'm like yeah there and and i have found guys this is maybe too much heart there is no right choice exactly besides being like uh considerate of others and just staying the hell inside if you're not a central worker um and practicing physical distancing there is no right answer and nobody no one knew where to turn as far as like i can't go ask my like grandmother or my aunt my great aunt or my aunt or my mom because like you had this experience when you were younger because no no, they didn't.

No one knew. No one could say to you, this is where you're going to feel more comfortable. It's such a personal decision. And similarly, someone else in our cast had called after I talked to Bo, and a week and a half later, and was like, what do I do? Do I leave?

Do I go? Do I stay? And I was like, I have found that it is, I know what you're feeling, and the desire to call and ask people their opinions. And we want someone to be able to tell us what to do, but no one can. And it's simply a personal decision. You know, I just think like ultimately what I love hearing, and I do wake up every day and try to look on the positive of this.

I try. While I understand there's not anything that's inherently, we're not better off because of this i try while i understand there's not anything that's inherently we're not better off because of this yeah i what i like reminding myself is i i actually am very thankful for that every now and then we will get a positive news article that's like hey guys it's working the projections of deaths across the country are way down from what they were because of what we're doing and i think that people really respond to being told that what we're doing is working because i think that for so long there it was just a lot of doom and gloom where it's going to be like it's going to get worse it's going to get

worse and no one knows and trump's an idiot and etc etc where it really felt like a true bottomless pit of despair and what has really helped me is seeing like i will give my i will give my props to cuomo and say that he has been very realistic and very even-handed about the whole thing and very unemotional about the whole thing and i have really appreciated him being like the social distancing is working if we keep going at this rate we won't have as calamitous a result as we may have because i think that we need hope you know what i mean people need that and i meant to do this on the last episode but i just want to say to everyone that is listening to this podcast right now and i will get real i understand that it is so hard to be by yourself and it is so

difficult and a lot of people are not made for this to be by yourself all the time and to be by yourself and it is so difficult and a lot of people are not made for this to be by yourself all the time and to be feeling like you lost your routine a lot of people they keep their sanity because of their routine and i just want everyone listening to this if you are having a hard time just give yourself a hug and tell yourself it's going to be okay and if we could help for even this 90 minutes that we're doing this, that rocks. There's stuff that you can do. Just try to take it day by day and give yourself a break and eat that thing that you don't want to eat. And if you feel like you're eating too many things you don't want to eat, then don't.

And just know that we love you. And we're going to get to the end. Just stay doing the right thing. I and it's it's gonna we're gonna get to the end just stay doing the right thing i know it's hard we all know it is so hard but keep your head up it's not the end of the world it's really not yeah and in a way i mean that that that's a really helpful way of framing it which is that like in some real literal way like uh people are alive who right now who wouldn't be had we not had you not changed your behavior on an individual level and you're doing the truly the heroic thing is to be staying home right now and doing exactly what you're doing yeah and i just wanted to because a lot of people you know they've been reaching out and i'm sure that you guys were

reached out to about the snL episode that you did. That meant a lot to people. And I think that we need to stay as connected as possible. So I know that not everyone has a lot of social outlets and you're having to stay home. My heart goes out to everyone. And we are all in this together, babe. And we will get to the end. Winston Churchill drag.

Yes. Yes. God god bless i loved everything and i co-sign all of it we love that thank you at this time it is time for the kings to actually do a royal version of i don't think so honey i don't think honey royal version royal version i i can't go first if bone will be so kind i i will let you go first okay so this is matt rogers's royal i don't think so honey his time starts now i don't think so honey zoom fuck this i look like shit on zoom every time i see myself in the damn zoom i feel bad that i'm on for other people because i can't stop looking at how shitty I look my face has looked never worse whenever I'm looking down into the zoom

up into the zoom I have that thing under my chin like a frog and I don't think so honey that I look like that frog over there it's actually think about that thought that hoe over there that frog over there is what I look like honey I don't think so honey zoom I have to be sitting around waiting for other people to finish and then give 10 minutes

before i can respond i don't think so honey i'm someone who interacts quickly and rapidity and i actually have to say i don't think so honey zoom because we're on zoom for work and i cannot stay focused and it makes me feel like a bad worker i don don't think so, honey. Zoom it's a bad name. Why the fuck is it called Zoom? If I wanted to call it something realistic, it'd be I don't think so, honey. Zoom, you should call it Doom. And that's one minute. Thank you. We did not think

so. Excavating the unsaid. You shouldn't call it Doom instead of Zoom. We should be calling it Doom. It's actually rule of culture number 12. They should call it call it doom instead of zoom all right that was sobo and yang's yes okay okay i'm ready are you gonna time me no i don't have my phone you know okay i'll time myself wait no i'll time you shit i don't okay okay king is gonna time me

king king has the ability king is the ability to time okay okay and your time starts now i don't think so honey people sending me pictures of people who they think look like me it's always just another asian person maybe he's wearing glasses or they're tagging their fucking friends in the comments and they're like reminds me of thought this was at sheldon park like who stop it like i and then we and then you're annoying me and you're annoying the person who gets tagged who's probably like i actually don't look anything like that person either like do not create this thing where you're like 30 seconds trying to graft on resemblance

onto these two people who don't look alike girl if I was tagging some some strange if I was tagging this Matt Rodders to every time I saw a photo of Avatar 15 seconds he would he would call off the damn friendship he would say I don't look like Jake Sully bitch and then he would slap me off the damn friendship he would say i don't look like jake sully bitch and then

he would slap me across the damn face the next time he saw me after we got out of quarantine so i don't think someone he stopped dming me dming me photos of people who look like me and that's one minute the thing is i do look like jake sully when he becomes an avatar but i do not look like sam worthington which has been hard i think you look like the the like that you know like the from the gorilla from the not the gorilla the chimp to i think you look like the the like that you know like the from the gorilla from the not the gorilla the chimp to the human you look like in the middle zone there between sam worthington and jake sully and blue jake sully okay and that's good and that's not a bad place to be okay not a bad place to be between uh sam worthington and whatever other thing and

and the navi and the navi um i see you i see you to to borrow a word from the language and from miss leona lewis and of course miss joey zoe saldana herself for a moment there leona lewis was set up to be the next celine dion when they made her sing that song i was like oh she's gonna be she's gonna be as huge as celine you couldn't tell them she wasn't the next celine and. What happened with her? Girl, she was in Cats a few years ago on Broadway and then Radio Silence. She deserves better.

Does she? Did she do it to herself? Did she do it to herself? You have to ask that question, King. This sounds like a lot of victim blaming. And we're back and this is a callback. And this is a callback. Hon, all I can can say is bleeding love was the bop of the time it really was and then i don't know what happened after that you had the monster hit and then goodbye leona well i think

there's still life but i'll tell you who we say hello to. Miss Ego Wotum. Kang. Kang. Okay, Kang, this is Ego Wotum's I Don't Think So Honey. I'll time you. Her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. People texting me and emailing me. It looks so crazy in New York. Bitch, I know. I live here.

I'm living it. I was having a nice day until you sent me that message and reminded me of the impending doom that lay outside my door. Wow. Keep your anxiety to yourself, okay? If you want to ask me how I'm doing, ask me how I'm doing. If you want to send me well wishes, that is totally welcome. But you being like

it's scary in New York. I'm worried about you in New York. No, bitch. I do not think so, honey. I don't think so. You're trying to bring your emotions and making them my responsibility. I was in my kitchen cooking biscuits and trying to bring your emotions and making them my responsibility. I was in my kitchen cooking biscuits, and you texted me some bullshit about how scary it is. We know it's scary. But, honey, I'm inside like my ass is supposed to be doing what I'm supposed to be doing,

trying to keep my head on straight, and you bring in bullshit to my front door. I don't think so, honey. Stop telling me it's crazy in New York. I am physically here. I am safe. I am well. I am inside. Keep that energy to your damn self. I don't think so, honey.

And that's one minute. Very well done and topical. I'm inside like my ass is damn supposed to be. Cooking biscuits. Cooking biscuits. What's next on the biscuits agenda? Buttermilk. Okay, so tonight I'm not even going to make biscuits

because I made those cheddar, bacon cheddar jalapeno biscuits that were the motherfucking truth. I have one left. I ate five yesterday in one sitting. I ate three today because my pupusas were a flop. So I'm going to make an olive oil cake tonight.

Oh, great. Chocolate? Wait, I got to do a rule of culture. It's rule of culture number six. My pupusas of culture number six my papooses were a flop my papooses were a absolute flop i said wow to think this is actually it's a simple recipe but it is a hard to make it delicious the funniest thing in the world to me is calling something a flop i don't know why it's so funny like like it's like someone will text me like and be shady and be like look at this flop gay and i can just be like a screenshot of someone's insta i think it's so funny i fall out every time and it's the best way to describe it i've been here

i will i mean i'm tempted to show you guys. Show us the flop. Let me show you the flop. Bring the flop over to us. Dry. I'm seasoned. Oh, shit. That is a flop.

I would eat that flop. I broke them all up to be like, where does the flavor come into play? Where does this start? Podcasts are a visual medium. And she just showed us a plate of flops. A plate of flops, honey. I showed us a plate of flops. A plate of flops, honey. I'm serving a plate of flops over here. I said, this is the lowest I've felt in my quarantine.

Yes, the lowest low. So tonight we're making olive oil cake because I can't, I've never done it, but it's going to be a citrus olive oil cake. I don't think I can fuck that up. I feel fairly confident about my baking. I feel good about what's going to go down tonight. And olives are designed to be easy and not foolproof. I mean, freaking olive oil is literally,

and it's going to be good. It's a cakewalk. I've really been behind on the baking. It's a cakewalk. It's a cakewalk. You've got to get into it. Yes, yes. But you know what?

Fuck No Shade king matt if you're making bread but i'm no what are we making no i'm not one of these white gays out here making bread okay so you're a real one then he's a real one yeah don't worry about me that's the moment i found out matt rogers is in fact a real one i don't understand the bread thing i'm like there are so many other things you could make that will be satisfying and soothing and somehow a release for you, cathartic, if you will, that aren't bread. Because bread is so, I don't get it. Bread. I don't really get it.

Exactly. There's no novelty to the, you're spending a lot of time. I mean, I appreciate the process of it. But once it comes out, no matter how good it tastes, it's not going to feel new. I don't know. Bread is not delicious. When people are like, I love bread. I'm a breadhead.

I'm like, bread is not delicious. Bread's cool. Girl, if you say your favorite food is bread, I don't think so, honey. You need to get a new palate. We need to do a group, I don't think so honey you need to get a new palette we need to do a group i don't think so honey and i think this is you might be very sick you might be very sick you might be very sick you might be very sick with a disease you might be ill you might need to go to the hospital post haste yes because post haste is another thing i'm loving post haste i love to say post haste like whenever something needs to happen quickly you just say post haste post haste i'm gonna

i'm gonna take that from you matt yeah i'm glad we're on the same page about the bread that's but we're gonna make some olive oil cake i'll let you guys know how it goes please um and i think it's gonna go well because i i think there is not a thing that you could touch that would not turn to gold okay but have you seen those pupusas a flop besides the pupusas we can move on from the pupusas

and go forward now we're trying to figure out what to do with the pupusa scraps and how to not throw that all away there's no dog or animal in the house, right? There isn't. That's actually good. I wish I could help with the flop and eat it. And take the flop off your hands.

It's not good. It just is tasteless. You saw the damn plate of flops? Why is he pretending? He's like, I would eat it. It's fine. Because King is my friend and I want to help the flop. Yeah, but you have to be truthful to the friend of King. And I really biffed it, as the whites would say. Biffed it.

Biffed is a white term. So this episode was King. That's why it's called This Is King. And I have to say it's a to be continued because there's going to be many more episodes with King because it was just I feel that while it was a very full complete episode that we've really breached the surface of what the three of us King can do together truly

and the plural of King is not Kings it's King I caught that and I loved it the three of us King have to do this again when King gets together it's a real I am obsessed king okay king is very similar to house in la i have house so okay and so my very dear friend

and now bowen's very dear friend patrick rogers we share the last name and so we say we are house we are of house of rogers we are of house descent okay handmaid's to bury handmaid's tale yes but this is a whole new thing this is king and when when one of us does something that is king we recognize that by saying that was very king that was very this is okay i'm shook and i look forward to using the terminology 100 100 that's all I have to say about that one. Gonna have to say King on that one. Gonna have to say

King on that one. Gonna have to crown that one. Now, when King gets together again, I can't wait for the day. Me neither. I truly can't wait

for the day. But for now, we have to say this was an unbelievable episode and we want to thank Ego for being on. We love you so much.

Thank you guys. We love you. I love you, King. It was an unbelievable episode and we want to thank Ego for being on we love you so much thank you guys we love you King it was an absolute pleasure and a highlight of my day and perhaps my team oh my god this is my teen highlight of course Bowen you know that you know that what we do one of the things that we do on this episode

on this really on this podcast is we end every episode with a song yes we do and One of the things that we do on this episode, on this, really on this podcast is we end every episode with a song. Yes, we do. And I know just the song to close out on. Go on. Hey, stranger over there.

I'm really liking that. You're with me. We're better. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So right. So right. I'm sorry, Nikki. That's all we know. Sorry, Nikki. On the arm. Bye. Bye. I'm NK, and this is Basket Case. What is wrong with me?

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