Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "This Meeting Is Being Recorded" (w/ Patti Harrison)

Episode Date: September 1, 2021

With her beautiful curves and perfect height, Patti Harrison is undoubtedly one of the favorite guests of Las Culturistas. Join Bowen, Matt and Patti for a close read of the "Rumors" Lindsay Lohan lyrics, Patti's impression of the one iconic line in The Kids Are Alright, an exploration what actually happens in the shocking film Life Itself, thoughts on when it's best to Divest from The Conversation, the interesting and ultimately devastating story of what happened at The Ellen Show after Patti's big interview with her, what it would be like if the Blue Collar Comics made niche queer references, tropical vacations, what Harry Potter should try to do with her polyjuice potion, the film Together, Together and what it's actually about, the Spencer trailer with Kristen Stewart, cathartic shit talk vs. needless dragging, sucking dick, eating ass and licking balls. Happy belated birthday, Jennifer Coolidge!!! Check out Q-Force with Matt and Patti streaming 9/2 on Netflix!!! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. Hey, sister who just woke up. Sister, I just woke up. It's 5 p.m. Sunday. Good morning. Sunday morning. You look fresh as a daisy.

You feel? In the words of Katy Perry. Oh, right. And this is how we do. And this is how we do, she says, fresh do she says fresh as a daisy which she which she invented yes and the song daisy she said the word daisies many times it being the title of the song and all um thank you for saying that i feel good i feel pretty good today definitely good one of the better days you were out till the absolute morning hour. We don't have to talk about it. We don't? I don't know why we bring my private life

into this space. People want to know. And always examine and take a scalpel and look at the layers underneath. No, no, no. Listen to your voice. It was a rough night, wasn't it?

Your voice was low as shit. It was. Sounded like a bass. I was a bass. I'm a bass. I'm not. This is too much. Youed like a bass. I was a bass. I'm a bass. I'm not. This is too much. You're confronting me and I don't like it. You have a low voice. You have the low voice of a partier.

You have a low party boy voice. How do we feel? Should I feel bad for partying? No. I feel like Lindsay Lohan being asked to feel bad about partying. No. I think that you and Lindsay Lohan should both not even think about any of the sort of people that get in your ear

because I feel like the second you sort of just get this out of your system, you can just focus on acting and then we can get back to what is really good, okay? Which is the talent. Because people forget about the talent of Bowen and Lindsay Lohan. And it's really about that. Let them party and dance on a table.

But you know, Rumors is like such... A bop? No, I was going to say a prophecy. Yeah. Like, I'm tired of Rumors starting. Should we do a close read on it? Yeah. Saturday, stepping into the club, people taking pictures. Don't you think they get

enough? Don't you think? It's funny that you're pulling up the lyrics and i know these by heart can i say something i never really like this song never connected with me because at this point at this point lindsey like i was being very put off by lindsey lohan and and this time in her career i was obsessed i was obsessed went to go see freaky friday in the theater went to go see confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen in the theater, like was so, so, so Team Lindsay. And then somehow I got pulled into the Hilary Duff orbit and I was just like, she's right. You were Team Hilary Duff, of course, in the great Aaron Carter war of, let's call it 2004?

2004, 2004, 2004. So there was a great war in 2004 a lot of people remember a lot of people think that the iraq war was the sort of the big war of the time but the really big war was the great aaron carter war of 2004 and that was sort of you were either team hillary duff and you were a hillary duff sort of navy or you were a sort of lindsey lohan our force our air force yeah and that actually connected to the video for rumors where she was on sort of Lindsay Lohan Air Force. And that actually connected to the video for Rumors where she was on sort of like a helicopter pad.

And she did that amazing choreo. Saturday, stepping into the club, people taking pictures don't get enough. Well, that's the second verse. You're combining the first verse and the second verse. See, this is why I pulled it out. I didn't want to misquote. What's the quote-unquote

first verse, then? Saturday, stepping into the club, somebody want to tell the DJ to turn it up. Somebody want to tell you to turn it up. I feel the energy all around, and my body can't stop moving to the sound, cause I can tell that you're watching me, and you're probably gonna write what you didn't see.

Go ahead. And then, well, I just need a little space to breathe. Can you please respect my privacy? Why can't you just let me do the things I want to do? I just want to be me. I don't understand why

would you want to bring me down if I'm only having fun? I'm gonna live my life the way you want me to and here's the big chorus and this is where she sort of declares and often times in a chorus of a pop song and our guest knows a lot about this

and this sort of sounds like a song that our guest might even write this sounds like and we've known all about our guest pop star storied past in terms of her concerts even sort of storied conflict she's gotten into in her concerts before, which we have to follow up about that. We have to follow up. But this is the chorus,

right? So this is where she says what she's meaning, okay? I'm tired of rumors starting. I'm sick of being followed. I'm tired of people lying. Saying what they want about me. Why can't they back up off me? Why can't they let me live?

I'm going to do it my way. Take this for just what it is. Robert Frost could never. Robert Frost could never. Emily Dickinson found. Hailee Steinfeld found dead. Please. Queen of pop?

More like queen of flop. Queen of flop. Oh, and this, Broomers has a lyric that, Broomers shares a lyric with Jizz in My Pants, the Lonely Island classic, which is,

which is, here we are back up in the club. Here we are back up in the club. And then in Jizz in My Pants, it's, that was weird, but now we're back in the club. Yeah. Jizz in My Pants was,

you couldn't have told me that there was any other song other than Jizz in My Pants came out. It was the funniest thing in the world. And it's like a song that our guests would write. Okay. And I love take this for just what it is. That is like meta layer, like talking about how the meaning is implicit.

The declaration is implicit. Like this is what it is. Take it for what it is. And you already know what it is. And you already know what it is. And so I guess what you're saying is that you feel the same way as Lindsay does in the song when I ask you about why your voice is so fucking low garbage. Why you come to the record of the podcast with this like Peebo Bryson tone. Oh my God. Yeah, he said it. Not Peebo.

Not Peebo. I just relate relate i think we all relate to i'm saying we all relate to lindsey in some way don't we all right so i guess what we're saying is like you're saying take it for just what it is my voice my vocal quality on the episode today and i won't you won't elaborate on your fucking partying ways okay it was poppy it was poppy juice it was amazing It was really fun. That's it. See, and now that's all we wanted. That's all we wanted. We just want to know.

Now we know we're good. We can move on with our life. Let's move on with our life. Okay. How are you, Queen, before we bring in the guests in? Fine. I had three coffees today.

Too many. Probably two too many. I probably should have just had one. Probably all I needed was one iced coffee. Sometimes you just get a taste of the stuff and you can't stop. I know that's right. I know that's right. I know that's right. Not me having three coffees

today. Me AF having three coffees today. Not this. Not this, Jan. Oh my god. Let's bring in our guest, shall we? One of the best guests. One of the best guests. One of the best guests. People really cream for the guest.

They're like, when is she coming back? Especially after a narrative has been sort of concluded, reached full circle with this feud that she's really kept going for five years now. I couldn't believe it. We watched it come to a head on television. And just to say that it's true that the guest, it's been a really long time since the guest was on.

And it's just, time certainly flies, doesn't it? Certainly it flies. But I sort of find myself on a show with the guest. Dream. This is so exciting to me. Dream. Q4s. I can't wait to watch. Out tonight This is so exciting to me. Dream. Q-Force. I can't wait to watch. Out tonight at midnight

if Asim will. Oh my god. And here's the deal. We actually sort of play very close friends on the show and colleagues. Okay? And that's true in real life. You're close friends and colleagues. Often. Often colleagues. Sometimes we are... I guess today we're sort of working together. You know what I mean? Today we're sort of

collaborating to build hopefully what is a comedic piece that people enjoy. You know? Absolutely. And I, oh my God, not to center myself in this, but recently I was a colleague of hers. Yes, and you swim in a pool together in your off hours. We swim in a pool together. It was really fun. I heard all about the swimming, and I would love to hear more about it.

We'll talk more about it. Hope so. Anyway, we just love her so much. So let's, we don't even have to do, we're not doing credits. This is. Who cares? Take it, take it for what it is. Take it for just what it is.

I wonder what the guest vocal quality will be. Me too, me too. So excited. Let's find out now. We're so excited. Let's find out now. Everyone welcome. Patty Harrison.

Patty. Hi. Hi. Small mouse. Hi. Small mouse. Mousy girl. patty harrison hi hi hi this interview is being recorded okay so this video is being recorded peel back the layers so not everyone might know what it's like to be on a zoom

when it starts being recorded so what was that so this is my this is in in bowen i know you hate this but this is my snl audition and uh and you hate well i know that you hate how often i am i try and get on snl yeah through you three times a week in like personal interactions or you think that you think that i'm asking you out to lunch because I want to catch up and really it's because I have a character and sometimes that character

is that teacher you remember who just like had that big stack of papers on her desk do her do her I hate this but I have a character what is this teacher like she's like please

please don't yeah this is the way they don't say it. What did she say? This Zoom is being recorded. This meeting is being recorded. I'm going to do it better than me. This meeting. This meeting is not being recorded.

No, that was kind of just Matt Rogers trying hard. This meeting is being recorded. That was it. So, yeah, when you record a Zoom,

if anybody doesn't, you Zoom the video chat app, which we are using right now um if someone who is hosting records it it gives an audio message to everyone on the um in the zoom room so they know that they're being recorded yeah can i do it can i do an impression it's not it's not of that but it's it's of a Zoom thing. Yeah, yes. Okay. Bam-boom! Oh, my God.

You know what that sort of character, you know what that character reminded me of, too? The character of when the subway opens. Yeah, I know. That character. That character. It's like, that's my thing. It's a lot of, like, wacky physical stuff, and then, like, you know, like, chimes.

That's my style. Wait, okay. Can I do an impression? Yes. Okay. So this is an impression. It is, it's the train voice. It's, it's the train voice, but he went to my high school.

How about that? Oh my God. Okay. I hate this one. Please stand clear of the closing doors, Fraggot. Now, does he say Fraggot?

He says Fraggot. Fraggot. Stand clear of the closing doors, Fraggot. You know what happened? This character that was a high school, character of the high school person, it's like,

he started to say friend and then remembered that he felt pressured in high school to be a bully. So he said Fraggot. So he said Fraggot yeah they couldn't see but i did look over to i like looked away at my friends that i remembered and then i said yeah yeah yeah so tell us about well in high school you're really popular well yeah i had a lot of friends in high school. And I think people know that. You think?

I don't think people know. Because of the way that I dress. And the way that I dress, how tall I am, my weight, my cup size, my curves, and all the right places. People know that I was very popular in high school. That girl was popular in high school. Probably has never had a problem. No. i was very popular in high school was popular in high school probably he's never had a problem no i had i did have um i didn't like really start having friends until my i always had friends like yeah you sound like you always had a lot of popular yeah right you said this is definitely

the way people talk when they had a lot of friends for sure. Well, I just think you need to stop right there. I think you need to stop right there. Okay. I'm trying to tell you something and I'm giving you a real answer. Give a real answer for real. Please drop it. I'm sorry, but this is Patty dropping it to her and not betting and the kids are all right.

The register. No, I feel Bowen. Stop right there. You stop. You Stop right there. You stop. You stop right there. You need to stop right there. Wait, do you want to know something that happens in that movie that people don't talk about enough? It is completely non-verbal,

but it's an Annette Bening moment. It's like the moment after she and Julianne Moore have this huge fight, and then Annette Bening, Julianne Moore's in the kitchen the next morning, and then Annette Bening goes downstairs, and she's in kitchen the next morning and then Annette Bening goes downstairs and she's in her scrubs and then she just takes a banana and says nothing and walks away it's such a powerful moment like they're mad at each other and Annette Bening takes all she does is she takes a banana and leaves it's like and she goes to work that's so wait why did you say- That's your takeaway? Yeah.

Wait, but why did you say this is your Annette Bening register? Is this something that Patty was doing sort of in the pool when you guys were together? No, it's not an inside joke. Not everything's an inside joke. Patty just has one of her huge impressions

that almost got her on SNL was Annette Bening and the kids are alright. Do it. Well, I- Yeah. Yeah, and that's true is that um is uh is i i can do an impression that is just and and know that i'm like i don't need to do celebrity impressions you know that but you know that i know i know you know that but you know that stuff is shit oh so fucking shit it's so fucking hack it's so and i don't put energy into it and i don't try

it's the thing is when this stuff comes out of me and it like sounds like i've rehearsed it a lot over years it's because it means nothing to me and I haven't even touched this stuff it's my first time doing the impression every time that I do it you're trying to take cover behind the fact that it's good you're trying to take cover behind detachment and not caring because it's

actually a good impression and that's what's fucked up because it's a really good impression and now you're like just like blue balling us with the impression can you just do it do it well yeah i can do it but i just want to say that also i have gravel voice right now too and why well that's the thing is like we don't have to talk about it yeah i just i went to i went to i went to a comedy show i went to sarah squirms comedy show last night and then i talked it was just loud and there was like a band that played after and so and the and so i just was talking really loud for the night i didn't

even stay out that late but i'm just with you bowen and so i just want to say that that like i don't know it's my voice isn't doesn't have the elasticity that needed for a net banning do it do it now stop okay there's the only line that i remember from the movie and from what i look i looked it up recently and i don't even think i'm saying the line right even though this is a way it's because there's also it's one of the things i can't find the clip online like it's not a big enough scene to people i guess for like no one has put it on youtube randomly we know it everyone knows the line but the thing is is that i looked it up i looked up movie quotes and they quote it differently than what how i say it they still use different words which i'm like oh i don't remember it being that but anyway well how do you say it mandela okay do it

now so if it if you don't know the conceit of the movie which i don't even really remember there's a scene where it's like annette benning and juliet moore are a gay couple and then julia juliet juliet juliet more yes i don't give a shit i don't fucking give a shit she doesn't care at all ugly cunt she was so popular in high school yeah she's fucking ugly cunt um and i mean i think i i think she's beautiful um uh they're they're a gay couple and right julian moore starts hooking up with mark ruffalo she's like she's like queer curious yeah and she starts hooking up with mark ruffalo and then and then annette benning finds out yeah and then but is it an open thing are they like no they're not it was just cheating yeah what's the line so i'm gonna going to get to that. But first, I want to talk about my first assault.

So my first assault was the worst. Oh, it's always the worst. It's always the worst. The first time is always the worst. First cut is the deepest. Baby, I know. Right? Yeah, that was the worst one.

I love Lorde. I love Solar Power. I love Lorde. Oh my gosh. Okay, I don't think so honey solar power um anyways well okay so i'm wrapping it up um i i have i have cocks to suck um no i don't i um don't take that i don't i'm I'm not like trying to do that today. But okay, so the impression

is it's the scene where she's fighting with Mark Ruffalo and he says something about their kids, about them being alright probably. Okay. This meeting is being recorded. Can you tell me the line and I'll do

the Mark Ruffalo line and it'll cue you and then you'll do the line. Do you know the Mark Ruffalo line? I don't think we know. Matt, you know, but you know the line. It's Annette's famous line. Yeah. Do you know the line?

Is it something about him being a cool guy or something? No. I'm just going to do it. line yeah is it is it um is it something about him being like cool guy or something no no no okay i'm just gonna do it i'm not i don't i actually hate like long cells for like people getting around because i think it's gonna make it less because what if it doesn't what if it's not as good as we're all thinking it's gonna be yeah well it's it's just don't just be just prepare to be like oh that's fine okay okay Well, now I'm kind of giggly. I need parenting advice from you.

Like, I need a dick in my ass. Yeah. I did know that line. I need parenting advice from you. Like, I need a dick in my ass. And she does have that sort of... You're so right. And first of all, can I say,

that was so much better than I ever could have dreamed. It was. It was amazing. Do you really think so? Yes, that was so good. I need parenting advice from you. Like, I need a dick in my ass. It's the squeak on the...

I need parenting advice from you. Like, I need a dick in my ass. I need parenting advice from you. Like, I need a dick in my ass. And isn't there a scene earlier where they're sort of talking about Joni Mitchell and she's like, okay, I think I like this guy. I think I like this guy. Yeah.

What an amazing actor. Wait, wait. So I did what you did. I don't want to let it leave. I don't want to let it leave the energy space that we're creating together right now while it's in my brain yeah but did you see what was the i almost said the jared fogel movie that's not it who's the guy that does this is us oh oh dan fogelman dan fogelman jared fogelman uh uh wait who's the subway pedophile dan vogelman um wait that movie that he did yeah he did do a wild and oscar uh oscar isaacs and annette benning plays the therapist life yeah it was like life

itself life itself life itself movie look like a movie that you would enjoy talking about it is the funny it's it is a crazy crazy crazy fucking movie and i saw it in theaters and it really it really okay there are so many you have to see the movie because it is so i don't watch this is us i have a lot of friends who are really into it and think it's an incredible show. They talk about the yo-yoing of the emotional arcs and stuff. It's that it really does a good job of being funny in places but being really heavy in other places. And I appreciate that. The movie is kind of like that in a carnival mirror house.

Well, it's not a TV show. It's a movie. They have to squeeze all that emotional yo-yoing into a movie, which can be really difficult. It's a tiny yo-yo. It's not easy to make a film. Tiny. Well, to bow into what you were saying earlier,

Annette Bening having this huge moment with grabbing a banana and not saying anything. There's a scene that, and this is going to spoil it if you haven't seen it. I don't think anyone cares. I don't think. Well, it came out in theaters like three years ago,

right? People have a chance to see it. Yeah. Um, so there's the scene. The whole thing is that like Oscar Isaacs is like a struggling screenwriter who's like really depressed i think he's like olivia wilde's ex and her the whole story arc is it's pretty funny stuff uh it's really dark but it's just like they really make it so zonky wonky teletubby sort of style tone that um it kind of is it's like i feel like it's on par

with like train spotting um but there's a scene there's a scene it's like the tone of it is oscar isaac being like yeah i'm kind of no whiskey and I'm kind of a fuck up. Yeah. Not so awesome sauce. Kind of. Now that I'm thinking about it, kind of like Dan Licata. Yeah. And.

Sounds like Licata. He's like, it's sort of like the Dan Licata vibe of like, I think Dan Licata would probably really like this movie. But he's Annette Bening. Annette Bening is his. annette benning yeah i like that anna anna anna benning um annette benning is annette benning is uh oh my god she's she's a therapist and um there's a scene in therapy session where his like screenplay whatever it's like the thing is like he's trying to write the screenplay and um they're coming for me because i said it i didn't consider because you called juliet you called juliet an ugly cunt it's because

you said that and then i called her annette benning and you know that annette benning literally runs hollywood so you know that she knows the police so she and warren warren baby her husband are sending the police to your fucking house and you're going to be arrested tonight but first you need to get to the end of the therapy thing okay well i'm literally explaining a scene in a movie which is like like, this is already its own hell. But taking up time is poorly explaining the scene in this movie. But there's a therapy scene. It's like maybe, it's maybe like, and it's pretty, it's like a quarter.

Shut up. Shut up, Owen. I need parenting advice from you. I need a dick in my ass that's the same I from the beginning or the chorus of Shiza

Lady Gaga that's the same I I need parenting advice from you like I need a dick in my ass I

that was I anyways can a publicist a reader cut it together sorry did I franchise it

into the line from kids alright sorry keep going there's a scene where Oscar Isaac shoots himself in his therapy session

he pulls out a gun he pulls out a gun in front of Annette Bening and he shoots himself in the head no and his brains

go all over the wall. This is real. That's wrong of you to say. This is real. And I know that this isn't recorded, right? This isn't recorded. You are lying about Dan Fogelman's work. He's an artist, Patty.

It's so funny. No, it doesn't sound funny at all. It's not funny that he shoots himself, but they make Annette benning have a reaction to it and he's just literally talking and he's like well i'll never be a screenwriter pulls out a gun and she blows his brains out in her office and i know that your audience won't be able to see it but i'll do it for you this is her reaction i'm taking i'm taking my headphones out for a moment i know that's like anti-recording quality there's just going to be a moment in the podcast where the sound quality's

bad i'm sorry that's way but for us to see you act this okay oh she's just standing up actually i should be seated this is no no no you can do whatever you want so she's sitting and she's watching them. And he gets up and he shoots himself. And Annette Bening goes... No. No. How do we even describe that? Patty, is that real?

I'm looking up the synopsis for the movie now. No, I'm not making it up. Yes, you are. No, I'm not. She literallyopsis for the movie now. No, I'm not making it up. Yes, you are. No, I'm not. She literally does this. He shoots him. Oh, my God. Wait.

She really does it. What? This sounds like a Patty Harrison line. Distracted. Abby is struck by a bus. Okay, so Abby, I guess, is a woman in the... Abby is Olivia Wilde. She gets hit by a bus. so abby i guess is a woman in the in the abby is olivia wild she gets hit by a bus i guess she dies um she dies the baby survives i guess she has a baby will blaming himself for his wife's death shoots himself in front of kate kate is played by oh my god You were not lying. You were not.

And her response is she's just like. I mean, it's honestly, it's honestly what. See, the thing is, is her reaction is so real. It feels so it's so like downplayed that it feels like maybe that's actually how someone would react if that oh yeah yeah no i know exactly and it kind of felt like you know how like in the alien movie they didn't tell them the chessboard they didn't tell the actors like that the chess yes that's violent to get a real reaction in the one actor actually she fell and like hit her head or something like she actually got hurt in that scene because she was so surprised yeah i feel like maybe they didn't tell they like redacted or whatever that part of the scene to like be like

something's gonna happen that you need to react to and then they just had oscar isaac shoot himself in the head on set and that's insane do you like see it they yeah they show his like brain like blood shut up yeah he like it's one of those it's one of those like squib effects where the actor like puts the gun in their mouth and the camera is like facing their face so the blood splatters like on the wall behind them this is completely insane or whatever i'm trying to find a video so when i when i lightly suggest when i'm like haha it is a very traumatic movie to watch but it's like trying so hard to like tug on your heartstrings they literally they pull out cancer they pull out suicide they pull out pregnant woman getting killed they get yeah it's like it's so it

try it tries to hurt you so badly it's really funny that it doesn't pay off they literally have flashbacks where olivia wild god bless her they have her in this i don't even think it's a lace front wig i think it's like just to like shake and go party city right on top of her head and she's like supposed to be in college it's a flashback to her in college and she runs she runs into the room and she's like they're like doing beer they're i think they're like doing keg stands it's like they're in college and the guys are doing keg stands and she runs into the room uh her party city wagon she's like my thesis i've come up with my thesis statement for my thesis life itself is and i don't even remember what she says but she uses the movie title and the thesis of her right that's so she

essentially says the thesis of the whole movie i want to say i'm really i'm shocked that this is real because i saw of course saw the trailer for this movie and thought it was hilarious but didn't pursue the movie but a.o scott chief film critic for the New York Times, calls it inadvertently hilarious film filled with parental slaughter, where mothers and fathers are hit by buses, perish in car accidents, commit suicide, and succumb to cancer,

though he praised the actors for their acting. That's the thing. That's what I was just about to say, is that... The actors don't sell it out. The actors, like sell it out. The actors, like every actor in that movie is a great actor. And they have to, for how wacky the story is, they stay committed.

It's kind of why I appreciate like Pretty Little Liars now is that like the show is so absurd. But like the lines that they have to say, but the commitment that the actors have it's like you know what choice do they have and they do a good job but like i really think that um it's just like it's it's a good it would be a good movie like if you're hanging out with someone who doesn't have what doesn't get triggered by like you know you want to maybe like do it because there's like suicide and shit in it but like it it would be a good party watch for with friends if you have a group of friends just to watch a movie that's like so wild literally the cast is oscar isaac olivia wild mandy patinkin gene smart olivia cook bow from thoroughbreds yeah annette

benning antonio banderas and and Samuel L. Jackson as himself. The woman who gets cancer, the young woman who ends up playing, it's like, it goes through their lifetimes, so it's like the guy who's a young woman. No, she's a, I think she's a Spanish actor.

She's like a Ford model. She's just like the hottest. Yes, Antonia Banderas. Yes. Antonia Banderas. She's just like the hottest. Conventionally hottest girl. Woman on earth.

And then she gets cancer. And also becomes old. And they put age makeup on her. And they literally just wrap like a towel. Around her head. To make her look sick and like truly just like but like they darken it's like middle school stage theater makeup to make her look like she has cancer and she's like she's speaking spanish but she's like

my life was beautiful and yet there's more I wanted out of it. And then she's like, still, you can tell it's like fully a 26 year old, like Ford model. What is the point? My son live on without me. They Mandy Moore'd her,

right? Yeah. They did with Mandy. But I feel like Mandy Moore, they at least like the effects from what I seen look a lot better. Yeah. Than what they did. I think they tried to do it with this girl

and she was so hot it didn't work. I'm not a drag man anymore for not being hot enough to defeat her old age makeup and still be hot. I have no regrets about what I said. Yeah, I didn't think you did. I know exactly what I was implying. And I'm sorry that I took this whole thing into that. I am disgusted. Never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy.

We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw

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like there's something very I don't know this much about This Is Us but like the fact that people die because like an instant pot explodes or a crock pot explodes like that doesn't make yeah that happens too pretty much everything that happens in his shows or films are I can't

believe are happening like everything that happens in his shows or films are, I can't believe, are happening. Like, everything that you guys have said. It's even crazier than, like, Grey's Anatomy or Desperate Housewives. It harkens back to that era of television where it's, like, primetime soap. And I guess This Is Us is, like, the closest thing we have to that right now. 100%, yeah. It's even crazier than that to me. Yeah.

I see. I love that, though. Me too. I don't watch any. Melodrama. Yeah. I see. I love that though. Like I don't know any, I don't want you to. Melodrama. Yeah. We need soap operas to be soap operas.

You have to remember like, it used to be like every episode, someone fell down the stairs. So if there's a lion loose on Wisteria Lane, we're doing the right thing. I feel like, you know, when you think there's,

Grey's Anatomy, do they still do every year, there's a huge tragedy? I have no idea. Well, now they're doing the COVID stuff where like, Oh God. No. They do COVID on Grey's a huge tragedy i have no idea well now they're doing the covid stuff where like oh my god no they do covid on gray's anatomy yes yeah no meredith almost died of it no yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it's it's it's it's it's rough they like that is such a choice because

now for the rest of time it has to be about for as long as it's on now it has to be about COVID they gotta hang it up I mean make your bed like literally I hope they have to keep writing about COVID so that they like they have to deal with the choice that they made Sandra Oh has done like five

series since that ended it's yeah it's, it's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah, she just, what, The Chair? Have you watched The Chair? I watched some of it. Yeah, I did too. Yeah.

Yeah. I thought Sandra was great. You don't even have to go into it. No, but look, here's what I'm going to say. The readers of the pod they want to hear what we think about stuff and we've gone so far into life itself and this is us so they really know what we feel about it and they also know that we fucking stan the kids are all right so i'm not gonna bring up the chair and say i watched some of it but not all of it without qualifying it

here's my review sandra's fucking great i just don't know if I care that much about the faculty at a liberal arts school. I just don't know if I care that much. It's a very dry show, and I think it knows that about itself, and it's like it's an entertaining watch. It's not asking too much of the audience. It's six episodes. They're

30 minutes each. It's like it goes down easy, and I never complain about a show that is like that. I think, and I think there's great performances. And then her and J Duplass have really good chemistry. They're great. I think there could be,

there could be a lion in that show though. Like I would like it if they threw a lion in there or like a disease or a tornado or something. So see the chair is like the, so on the opposite end of that. Yes. Of a Dan Fogelman type of show. Now that we're just like, Oh,

see, we want, we want someone to shoot themselves. I can't believe that happened. Wait, because it's so real. You were describing it in the way that you've been describing the Ellen feud. And I'm like, this is,

oh, this is just Patty. No, I'm not in a riff. I'm not. I promise you. Do you want to? Okay, I think this is an important time for you to close the chapter on Ellen if you think it's closed.

What was it like? You've told me a little bit about whatever we want to share about going on Ellen in her last season. When you came to face to face with your rival. Well,

what I have to say about the experience is that I was pretty nervous going into it. I, when I was asked to do it i was like i think they're probably gonna find out all the stuff that i've said about ellen in the past and and to be honest like a lot

of the stuff that i've said on record about ellen all from like 2017, 2018. Like that, like it's been a while. Like since I guess the last time I did lost culture, he says was like 2018. Yes. Since you described the bloody battle you had at your concert with her. Right. Which was like,

I was like, I was making it up. Yeah. But that was all fake. You were making it up. It was very, it was absurd. And I was making it up and it was it was absurd and i was making it up

and it was a joke and like i said stuff about her in like other interviews too um about like the george bush stuff and i just get like police are coming for you again no there's they're coming again they're just now coming for um juliet juliet juliet more Moore. They passed the house on accident before. Yeah. And they went and they arrested Taboo from Black Eyed Peas. They're like, there he is. That's Patty Harrison.

And they arrested Taboo. He keeps getting mistaken for me. And the thing that sucks is that he loves the attention two Asian icons two long haired Asian icons Taboo and Patty

sitting in a tree F-I-N-G-E-R-I-N-G E-A-C-H-O-T-H-E-R I-N-T-H-E-T-R-E-E yes fingering asshole in the tree fingering each other in the tree I-N-T-H-E-T-R-E-E. Yes. Fingering asshole in the tree. Fingering each other in the tree. For those fingering each other.

Oh, wow. I can't even spell. And I spelled it so slow. Wait, I'm sorry. I need to take it back. Taboo is not Asian. Taboo is Mexican. We're going to keep that in.

We're keeping it. You did some silent research, though. I didn't even hear the typing. I love that the Google search was is taboo from Black Eyed Peas Asian? No. Taboo Asian woman? Taboo woman?

Taboo. What did you type in? We need to know your Google search. I was already on Wikipedia and I looked up taboo Black Eyed Peas. I did not add any identifiers or anything. Nothing came up, so I just went to the Black Eyed Peas

page and then clicked taboo and then looked up early life. So is the Black Eyed Peas website just all the members and next to them it says their race? I mean, it could be. It's like Fergie Whitegie white no fergie's race would be listed and this is their this is their wording not mine it would be the r word because

they used it they still use it every time that song gets played that's them using the r word listening to that song now was the clarity in which they say it in the studio record, how much they enunciate the word is crazy. Every, like, every, what are the linguistics behind it? Like, T, like, is it fricative, plosive? No. Fricative, uh, Tuh.

Tuh, I think, is plosive, right? Because it's, you're pushing the air, right? And, uh, yeah. Yeah. And are really aggressive on that.

But see, but Fergie can, she can, they can still sing that because Fergie, that's her race. Like, that's what she identifies as her race. Yeah.

And that's what people, people need to like, get off their fucking little PCSjw pulpits say that say that say that and they need to learn that like that she actually has agency to say it because she identifies as that um and she even said they say it in the song they all identify as that oh my god. But, um. And PCSJW culture, bring back the uncensored version of that song of Let's Get It Started.

Iggy Azalea said it too. And my flow, the word. She describes her flow as blank. She is like, she, I think, is, needs, she needs some like aloe on her soul um but i love that i love that as a description wait now but wait i do want to say yeah because you uh someone i saw the other

day and i just like looked at on a random instagram post i got a notification and i like i really skim them that's something that i trained myself to do is like i'm like don't go through my notifications like with intent or attention just like skim if you see something catch your eye great it's the same with like my message request because i get like insane messages and it's just not worth it but i saw this person just commented trani really big on one of my pictures but the l and i was like like yeah like when we were talking like trani um and it i was like oh it's nice and then i looked at their profile and it's just like a white cis woman and that was the thing where i was like you know know, I think she listens to Las Culturistas.

I think she is meaning well. And so I was like, is this a moment where I, a teachable moment where I can send her like an DM? And I was like, I just don't, I'm just going to let her live in that. And she can just like have her joy around getting to comment trani on something but i think she's like doing it like in fellowship with me like feeling like haha trani we're all we can all say it and i was just like you know what i actually don't want to i don't love it i don't care if like at this point i'm not even gonna like put energy into into i guess trying to dissect like agency around gatekeeping language it to that degree so i'm just like you know what i just think don't give a shit because this is just like a person i

don't know and it won't meet whatever but um um i mean i mean there is a world where maybe i she's she's they she or something like afab they she but even then it's like that is like an interesting thing that is why i have opted out of the conversation is with like the they she of it all is like in people who are like gender fluid and which i do like i think is valid i think non-binary identities are completely valid, but I think it's, it is still gives me a jolt when like, like cis presenting a fab, they,

she's that are hyper femme. They, she's will like start throwing the word tranny around in front of me. And I'm like, Oh, I don't think you've lived with that word or had it used at you in a way that it's like i know that you feel you're integrated into this like culture now i think the internet expedites that that feeling of like oh this is my i have access to this now yeah but it is still jarring for me in a way that i'm like you know

i'm just gonna anytime I see this happening I'm just not investigating it I'm going to put my energy into ordering food from California Chicken Cafe California Chicken Cafe getting a dick in my ass well this is like I don't have that much insightful things

to say about this I see you always say stuff like that but then you always say something very poignant no no noignant and no no no no no no no but he's getting your defenses down so you assume you're gonna hear some dumb shit and then when he hits you with something wise that's part of this i'm about to say the dumbest thing i've ever said in my life but i feel like this is a thing that i think is part of this cultural conflict in the trans community between like it's not quite i feel like the the the

conflict is not quite like true scum versus trans trender thing like where it's like there are like there there is like a gatekeeping segment of the trans population that are like you have not had a lived in trans experience and therefore you are not you you you don't you should not like throw around certain words or concepts in the, in the way that you cavalierly are. And then, but it's like who, but then like how much, how much gatekeeping like is actually like beneficial or helpful? Like it's, it's so tough to say. It is. like it's it's so tough to say it's it is things where it's like well if if we're trying to like destroy like gender right like ideas that are like very like deeply like programmed into things and

like where do you i think like you like where do you like rebuild from it's it's it's tough yeah i mean i get i understand like the the frustration and the anger around like you know when when people do use that language that other people are like you know you don't have you haven't done the ground the footwork or the groundwork to like have that word in your your vocabulary but i'm like i think in terms of caring for at like trans people it's like i'm like div learned a lot 100 but I also am I'm like I feel like as long as I'm online I'm not I don't know I just feel like what did what do I do in my lived life in in person i'm not gonna scream out this person's head off yeah because i'm like i'm there it's just like really hard it would be really hard to objectively clock

some the level of someone's experience and agency and their trans experience before they can like start saying a word whatever i'm just like you know what like i would rather just order food from california chicken cafe and this is how you learn that i have like a four hundred thousand dollar deal with california chicken cafe credit cards like if trans if there was less infighting in the trans community no i get it too it's like i have frustrations around that stuff too but i just like have opted to to divest and not because i'm like at the end of the day at the end of the day the only person who knows the authenticity of like a person and their experience is that person like it's just like there's no i think it just goes across the board in every situation in every relationship that you have but like i don't have the tools and

i will just simply never know i can't be a detective to like you know if i am doing detective work to just like figure out if this person is like as trans as they say they are or something it's like why do i care like I'm, there are other people who are much more toxic to me than, like, this well-meaning. Sure. Commenting in all caps, 40 exclamation points.

Trani! Well, this is, this is the thing. This is how, it's not the same, it's not, like, the same, like, analog, but, like, I heard someone, I heard, I heard this, like, professor say this about, about like racism as it pertains to like this was like right around like march when like i was like just i don't know like taking a lot of stuff in and you know there was this professor who was just like you know my husband and i were like waiting at some like bus stop in germany and this like old woman was like glaring at us and like being awful and like like muttering all these

like racist german things under her breath and then my husband was like should we say something and then she was like no like what am i gonna do like yell at this old woman to stop it's like they're like the thing to think about is there are racists who can hurt you and there are racists who can't it's like it's like it's the the frame of it should be around like power, power. And so it's like, does this white person, like, who, like, presents super femme, but is, like, using they, she pronouns, like, can they hurt you? Probably not. And so as it relates to, like, our white femme listenership of this show, like, I think Matt and I, Matt, remember, we're not going to name names. But there was one time where we were at a show where there was this, like, I'm not going to say which city, but there was a performer, a white AFAB person who performed and her, I don't think so.

Honey was, I don't think so. Honey minions. You look like the kids who make you in factories or whatever. Like you look like Asian people. And I was like literally five feet away from her. And I was like, and I think people were like,

there was, there was tension in the room. Cause they were like, Oh, like this is like blatantly racist to Asian people. And I, in the moment I was just like, I don't fucking careantly racist to asian people and like in the moment i was just like i don't fucking care like she's this like she's this person i'm never i'm probably never gonna see again and like i don't have to like waste any energy on like her like misguided attempt at humor yeah like this is

so humiliating for her that no totally i'm. Yeah, it's more cringe than it is offensive because you're just like, oh god. This is so not it. Right. And that's also not the proper analog to this person, Patty, that's in your comments.

But who thinks that they have this familiarity with you and to type in all caps this familiarity with you and to like type in all caps this word that you made up um the floor that you made up you know i don't know yeah well i just uh i'm i know i appreciate what you said about that too i think like i think it's just a moment of discernment if you have the stamina and like gauging kind of the the little details of each each occurrence case by case basis of when of when it's like okay like you know is this is this worth my time and energy is this going to be good for me personally like my yeah is that how

you felt with ellen when you were face to face with her you were like oh right well to get back to that I will say that I was really you know going into that interview I was like I'm gonna be a good sport I am excited to get to do it it is crazy like my I literally my fourth grade teacher Eileen who was like my best friends in high school's parents mom she was the mom and she i would like get off the bus and go watch ellen with them or like a get or like after school when when my friends started driving like that's like the first thing we would do when we'd get back and like um so there is this like internalized magic about that that i'm like i'm not above that i'm not above like wanting this cool experience and the things that i said were like either jokes or from years ago and then our teams talked to kind of clarify that i wasn't gonna like do anything to ambush her like that

she wasn't gonna do anything to like ambush me it was like very like felt out in advance and then but i really went in with like blank slate i'm just gonna like i'm here to kind of promote the movie and that's all it has to be i think she's kind of been through the ringer yeah i don't again that energy preserve thing it's like i don't want to when you're like with somebody in person it's like oh yeah i remember that this person is a person yeah whatever so when the day we were it was really quick i just went into the studio i got there my makeup artist kirsten came with me kirsten coleman she's fucking amazing she's like kirsten she's so sick she went with me and then ellen came to my dressing room beforehand and said hi and it was very like

very nice uh very brief um and then that we did like a pre-interview so we knew what we were gonna talk about in the pre-interview they ask you like a couple questions so it's like the phone call the day before and they just kind of they're like okay so here's some things we talk about and they you feel it out to see if there are any interesting stories so that you optimize the interview time like i think every interview talk show is like that. So that you're not like wild carding, saying something random. And, you know, or giving a boring interview on TV. So we had the pre-interview. It was nice.

And then I went on and it's in COVID. So there's no. It was all the vertical screens. Yeah. It was literally like people watching on Zoom. So there's no it was all the vertical screens yeah it was literally like people watching on zoom also there's no audience yeah it was this meeting is being recorded exactly that it was very like like sci-fi or whatever but there was like some producers standing in the wings and ellen you know she's sitting there and she's greeting you the stage

is like bigger so there's no hug. You don't hug her. I can't remember if we hugged or not. I think we like elbow bumped or something or we sat down or maybe we. Okay. Yeah, I don't remember if we hugged. But yeah, it was, I literally was, I was nervous that I was like, is any of this past stuff going to come up?

And it was, it was was nice like you can watch the interview online so she leaned in like I don't know if you saw it I saw it it was a lovely interview okay yeah like they cut to commercial and like there's a little moment where she leans in and like yeah we like giggle and then I like walk off stage or whatever and that's like you don't hear what was being said but like like right after the interview, I was, cause I was like saying that I was nervous. And she was like, can you tell that your tits are so fucking deformed?

Your stupid, ugly, your breast implants are like literally hanging lower than they need to be. And I was like, huh? And she's like, Hey, Hey, you he, she, tranny. I'm talking to you. i said excuse me excuse me do you hear yourself are you serious you know you're being recorded she said no no no no this is she it was so fucked up she says no no he she the mics are off now the interview's over look at the little ticker and i looked over i looked and there was a little ticker and it that had the time on it and i said oh my god it froze does that mean and she's like yeah the recording stopped no one knows what the

hell i'm saying to you and i said this is fucked up when i guess what i don't have breast implants i don't have breast implants i've just started hormone therapy and the tissue's not growing in evenly. She didn't even care that you said this, did she? No, you know what she did? What? She stood up. She stood up and she turned. So evil.

She slid down her slacks just a little bit. And she revealed right, right above her butt crack. there's a little tattoo no no guess what it said what did it say no no don't do it oh my don't don't say it no i can't even say i can't i shouldn't you know i really shouldn't say what the tattoo said. But wait. Oh my gosh. It said set Jared Fogle free. He didn't do anything. And it said the people who said he did something wrong are wrong. Because I know them and I know that they're liars.

She is so fucking evil. And then she pulled her pants down a little further and she farted. Fuck her. And it fucking reeked and you know why why you know why because she's keto and it was just like yeah and it was enough the heart was enough that it gave her a little boost forward and she kind of like and her pants were low around her knees so So she was like, oh. And she had to catch herself on her chair. Did she successfully? Did she what? Catch herself?

Did she successfully catch herself? Yeah, she made it in the chair. She didn't fall completely. But I stood up. I told you I stood up. Well, what did you do? Did you defend yourself or not? This was your last chance to fight her.

I stood up and I said and i was like this is so inappropriate and before i could even get it out she's points out she's like both of your uh both of your deformed breasts have fallen out of your shirt and i looked down she was right and they were out and i looked and for the first they're not deforming patty sorry they're not even they are they are and it's because i sleep on my stomach and so they've been growing in my sleep when i am the hormones and they're growing on they're all growing kind of sideways oh my god you don't even let me say it you didn't even let me say it let me let me let me own my journey fucking oh my god i want to call you a faggot and i'm not call me a faggot you can call me a faggot call her a faggot

i'm talking to my therapist now and she's saying that i use faggot in an attempt to claim an adjacency to being cis because that's where i feel power is and i agreed and then we had sex and it was really bad that's so messed up you should not have had sex with your therapist that's one of the top rules oh my god my therapist the fucking so fucking highest biggest tits oh my god so after her fucking chin up to her chin like literally big and nice literally when when we're pile driving she's like she's upside down yeah and it's a and when she spreads her her boobs both her eyes are bruised oh my god they're so hot like big bat it's like this did you did your elementary school have that phase where you had milk in a bag?

Yes. Like chocolate milk in a bag. Yes. And you had to stab the bag with the straw. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Exactly. It's like that.

That's what was going on with her tits. Oh my god. So fucking hot. Slapping. What color is her hair? It is fire red. Oh my god. So hot.

Hot. Hot redhead with huge fucking tits and bruised face from the tits hitting her from getting yeah imagine she kind of looks like dita von tisa glasses oh my god wait oh my god so i'm harder than fucking a chess game on the queen's gambit yeah i saw the camera shake i saw your camera shake on your laptop because your dick hit the bottom of it yeah i have a really big penis that gets very hard when i talk when i think about sex dita von t's yeah does your therapist do your therapist glasses shatter when the tits hit uh no it's it's like a really thick reinforced plastic that they'd use on the Popemobile. Smart lady vibes. Yeah, she's smart.

But yeah, anyways, as I stood up, Ellen turned around and she shot me in the fucking head. And then Ellen went... But you survived. Yeah, Ellen was... She was in the audience and then she went... There was another Ellen in the audience who stood up and was like...

She is so messed up. is so messed up that she did that i know but the thing and in her house too in her house is that in lockdown everyone in lockdown is going through an immense amount of psychological trauma that we don't even we have so easily and quickly normalized the fact that like we all just carry on with our day-to-day lives because we have to and we don't think about how lockdown is affecting us i don't think if i don't think there's any world where like hypothetical world where like if the pandemic didn't exist that she would have gotten that jared vogel no patty it was innocent tattoo like set him free the first time she attacked you was pre-pandemic this is who she

is and don't don't let her convince you that she's changed at all she's the same person she's the same ugly person on the inside and out she is is picking me up today. Today? You are a lost cause. Remember when we thought the podcast was at when I got worried because the email had the time wrong

and it said it was recording at 5 p.m. Our producer fucking messed up almost completely throughout the day. It's okay. It's really okay because sometimes

people wreak a little havoc and that havoc is paid for in hell. Chaos Theory. What are you guys doing today? This fall on Bravo. It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately.

We're friends like that. Who needs enemies? You ain't seen nothing yet. Cheers to being Germanic. With the Real Housewives of Potomac. Oh my gosh, can I take this in? It's going to be amazing. New York City. Everyone is a gossip. No one gets a happier life. Salt Lake City. We don't wear pastels, we wear fashion. And below deck sailing out. You broke the rules and now you're here getting upset. Watch all new seasons on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Let's have a real good time. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose.

My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer, and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble.

I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault, but mine, I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life.

I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba.

He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian.

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founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. That's just picking you up for it. Where are you going? We're going to go to Greta Van Fleet concert. No. You know what's going to happen. I am me, I want to go. Oh, wait, that's Rush. Okay, but patty i feel like this is actually a beautiful

sort of like i think this is like very like um you know like first like the harry potter books like the seven books are over but now there's a new sort of like territory in the ip that we get to explore which is the post ellenllen talk show era. And now the fight is kind of really entering this new territory. And I think this is really exciting. This is to be continued. Well, it's like, what is the other

movie with Eddie Redmayne? Fantastic Beasts. The Danish Girl. Oh, yeah. Fantastic Beasts. Fantastic Beasts. Hey, you want to talk about a Fantastic Beast? Try seeing the Danish girl. Oh, yeah. Fantastic Beast. Fantastic Beast. Hey, you want to talk about a Fantastic Beast? Try seeing the Danish girl. She was ugly!

Am I right, that dog? She's a dog, that Danish dog! She'll be called Fantastic Beast, ugly bitch. Damn! This character that you're playing is telling no lies, girl. She's telling no lies. Damn, Danish girl.

More like get yourself some fucking highlighter, you damn dog. Learn where your T-zone is, you fucking damn dog. Got him. There should be... Got him. I want there to be like a Jeff Foxworthy type of stand-up. Not that that was like a Jeff Foxworthy type, but just, like, just a heartland stand-up. Blue-collar comedy tour.

Blue-collar comedy, yeah, that's what I was going for, but, like, talks specifically in, like, specific niche queer references. Not that Danish Girl is specific in niche, but, like, it's just, like... That newest ContraPoints was real, was a real head-scratcher, wasn't it? Blue is the warmest color. Dang never heard of yellow or red. I hated that lesbian film.

Pussies are fake as hell. They were not even real. Pussies not even one came on the damn screen. Prosthetic pussy? More like, more like, see you later. Wake me up when Rachel McAdams spits in Rachel Weisz's mouth again. That's female sexuality. I'm going to be real honest with y'all.

I never even saw Moonlight. Okay, I'm just going to be the woman comic on the tour. And I'm going to know, I know that I'm going to gonna get some shit for that but i didn't see it okay and i just want to say i just want to say before this gets soundbited that i'm from orient ohio and everybody fucking talks like that so yeah i have the fucking agency to do a voice like this have Have you gone home to see your I grew up in Cairn. I grew up around Cairn.

Have you gone home to see your fucking hick family recently? You did. Yeah, I did. How was that? Lame? It was really emotional and lame. My mom's moving out of my childhood home. That's a lot. That's so sad.

Where's she gonna go? She's gonna go to another house that is not far. A little bit smaller. Downsizing. It is actually a little bit smaller, but I think it's a little nicer. It's not falling apart as much.

Poor. It's not in an area that I would really like her living in just because it's very Trumpy. Well, she can start a movement there well she's also very i mean she could start she should start an uprising of trumpers there yeah that's true that you know what that's true she and she just needs a little plush

and I'll be the person that gives her the little zonk she needs. But then, does this mean that, will the animals have a place to roam? Because she has a lot of animals, doesn't she? Well, she, no, not a lot, but she had some cats and a dog, but my sister

is taking them. They're still in the family they're just they're gonna be with her with my sister instead of my mom so i got to see my sisters which is really nice um because normally i'm only home for christmas do you guys go home a lot i haven't gone i i used to go home i would say too much and i think this is a moment that we are readjusting because matt matt i see my family a good amount uh i i don't live i don't live in new york anymore and so i don't see them all the time like i used to but i see them a good amount but the pandemic it's different but you know i see them and correspond with them a good amount i wanted I wanted to ask you guys a question, though.

Yeah. It has to do with what I said earlier about how you guys swam together. What happened in the pool that day? Well, there were multiple days. Well, the first day, what happened? Well, first off, Bowen, we we worked on a movie together a lot of hollywood a-listers juliet julian julian julian potato julian potatoes um julian potatoes what if someone just what if we had you know how we have these moments where it's like oh like someone bursts onto the scene like uh like uh what alicia vikander or whatever yeah

like like like a huge star like that yeah if there was just like someone who bursts onto the scene in her 50s and her name was Julian Potatoes. Why do you laugh like that? And she just showed up in everything. Yeah. She had her like Claire Foy. Yeah. She had a Claire Foy It Girl moment.

No, I felt like Claire Foy just like kind of was everywhere for a moment. Maybe that was like a year or two ago. She was in The Crown and then she was in know, she was in the first man movie. Oh. Neil Armstrong movie. She said, you're a bunch of boys.

And she was the girl in the Dragon's Tale movie. Girl in the Dragon's Tale. Yeah, she was. She played Lisbeth Salander. One of the great names. Slytherin. I hope,

I hope that there's a Julian. A Julian. They're coming back. They heard us using the name again um no but bowen and i yeah we were working together patty has this big part in the movie and i it's not a big part it's not i'm like it's a fun part but it's pretty small i think but i was there for a while you were there for the whole thing no i wasn't oh they shot for they shot they just got done shooting i know they did they did just get done oh you're right so you and i like wrapped around the same time but i was

just there but i was there for a month and a half yeah you were there for a week and um i loved that week that was really fun it was so fun it really made me want to like i think i've been fantasizing about going on like some sort of weird tropical vacation with my friends literally for, like, years and years and years and years. And I've never done that in any capacity. I don't think that still counts. Like, I think that is just a preview. We should go to Hawaii. Because we were still there for work.

So we still had to, like, go do stuff. But it was so cool because the first place we stayed, they moved us around. It was in the Dominican Republic. And Bowen got there. And we got a place that had golf carts yeah i liked at our disposal did they go real fast no they went 15 miles an hour tops what's faster than five ten so be lucky and grateful okay what else thank you yeah grateful it was it was fun and then patty and i yeah so patty moved around a bunch of resorts and i was there for two of them and you the second one was puntacana which was kind of like a weird nasty resort but our rooms the rooms they put us in were cool because they were they had a swim up

they had a swim up pool to the patio so like the back pool was there was a big like a really long thin rectangular pool that ran along the back of the building and our rooms are like patios had steps down into the pool so i could go swim over to bowen's room he was two rooms down and one of the other actors was like right beside us so we could like all like hang out wow and it was really it was really fun to like be like i'd like text bowen and be like hey i am swimming over and literally at like because we would wrap at like midnight or whatever so it was like night swimming that's so fun so who did you guys ever have a race in the water no oh but you want to know something beautiful okay there was there was a there was a duck there were no duck in the pool yes there were multiple ducks that came into

the pool and they were so beautiful did you name her chlorine because she what she was all around no chlorine chlorine we didn't name her but we did we did sing born this way like we felt the need to sing born this way to it yeah like a very specific timbre you thought it was a queer duck yeah well we were i why we just saw the duck and i was like i need to sing the song born this way by lady gaga it was it was this are you ready it was your lebanese your orient that was your lebanese your orient your lebanese your orient don't be don't be don't be i'm gonna do a remix of it where i cut it together and just i cut together the don't be from don't be a bad drag between where she goes, don't be.

So don't be your Lebanese. You're orient. Don't be, don't be gay, straight up. Don't be gay. Don't be transgender. Orient.

Don't be orient. Baby. I was Orient. Yeah. Baby. Baby, I was Orient. Baby, I was Orient. Baby, I was Orient.

Orient. I'm beautiful in my way because I'm Orient. Orient. Orient. Anyway, that's the pool. It was really fun. But what I was going to say, it made me want to like actually plan a vacation like somewhere because I've traveled for work a little bit. And I'm always like take it as a vacation, but it's not an actual vacation because I'm stressing about working all the time.

So it would be nice to do replicate that again. But I think that's kind of when do you want to do it let's plan it no but the fire island trips like there's still like this like social pressure to like do certain things um and i would love a vacation that was just like fully like like people like brought food to you you know like i need yeah that's what i need yeah just like completely glazing over and not having any i don't want to be like hey guys we're actually going to go to this museum no 1 p.m and then we're going to get dinner we have reservations at this place that blah blah it's like no those plans every like maybe like one day on the trip but like i like

the spontaneity of just being like oh I have this free time to just kind of like mosey around yeah you want to do like a proper relaxing beach vacation yeah I've never done that I don't have a trip planned I realize I don't have travel

planned at all like I have nothing planned the funny thing is I keep saying let's plan it. I've said it two times in the past five minutes. When have you said it to me? Literally two times in the last five minutes. I've said let's plan it. No one heard it.

I've been saying it. My voice is very resonant. Let's plan it. The week of Halloween I can go. A spooky vacay? Really? Let's plan it. The week of Halloween, I can go. A spooky vacay? Really? Yeah.

Oh, my God. Well, here's the thing. And that's your birthday. And that's your birthday. That's my birthday. But the thing is, is I won't make it about my birthday. We can't. How about that?

We will. No, but I won't. My birthday is the next week. And so we can make it about. If you don't want to take the pressure off, we can make you make it about multiple birthdays. I would literally do that. I don't have anything going on at that time well bowen let's you and me keep let's keep talking just you and me bowen and then matt matt if you want i will go on a trip with you

to get butterbeer at whatever Harry Potter thing. No, I know that you can't get enough of that dumb gay shit. Butterbeer. Look at your life, Harry Potter fan. Daniel Radcliffe says it's okay to go to Harry Potter World still. Because if you got something from

Harry Potter that taught you good life tools you should not let that turf ruin it for you i think that's the thing is is that is that that's hard is that i was a big very very potter fan so talk about your love for harry potter now so that we can sort of um get you on record doing that i since at a young age i really started loving harry potter i think you really did a harry potter book i really did yeah i really did i i only read the first four books and it was like when i was a kid and then the movie started to come out and i really loved the first four movies and then i liked the other movies after i liked that it i think it's because i like like around the holiday time like i like around christmas and thanksgiving like i really

like that time of year and that's when like abc family would start playing the the marathons of harry potter like it kind of all signified the same i I think there's just a lot of mental tie-in with that season and feeling like fall. I think there's a lot of really funny, nice moments in those movies that are ingrained in my brain, but also there's all the stuff surrounding it that's just like a big bummer. Yeah, it sucks.

I really hope that J. jk rowling finds healing um in her life and that she can come around and that we can have the first harry potter book where maybe maybe harry potter becomes a maybe harry potter decides one day that she's tired. She is tired of living a secret magical life. And so she uses a polyjuice potion to turn herself for one day into a woman. Just to see what it feels like. And she goes to hide in a bathroom. And she goes into the bathroom. Yeah, she goes into the woman's bathroom.

And as a woman, she just assaults a bunch of kids in the bathroom. But it's kind of like, I think JK would really like to write a book like that because that's kind of what she loves to write about. So if Harry Potter could take a polyjuice potion and get all the ingredients, make sure you get all the ingredients.

You need the hair of the person you want to transform into. Don't forget. Don't forget. And then you wear your little invisibility cloak into the bathroom. Because, uh-oh, the transformation's a little painful. But it's well worth it. It burns. It burns.

Ow! Ow, I'm burning. I'm turning into a beautiful girl in the bathroom who loves kids. Did she ever write in the books like they took the apologies potion and they like looked at their own dicks or their new genitals and they're like whoa nice like that is like i don't think the first thing you would do i actually don't think that there was ever a but i i think it might be a thing where i i don't think a male character turns into a female character i don't think i don't think so but i'm thinking a female character. I don't think so. But I'm thinking if a male character...

Hermione turns into the cat? I think if the male characters turn into another male character, the first thing you would do... Yeah. You know, like, be like, oh, whoa. I would. And I'm saying male characters, specifically in the Harry Potter world,

because trans people don't exist. so the male the men have penises well the magic matt they there's a magic spell there's a magic spell that makes everyone not dysphoric no one feels any dysphoria in the harry potter world it's like when you pass through the platform nine and three quarters into the magical realm, you're like, oh! And it sucks all your gender dysphoria out of you. Rita Skeeter is trans. The way she acts. The way she fucking acts,

snooping around a little bit. She's nothing going on in her life. She is trans. She's at home on the internet all the time, so afraid to leave her fucking house. She can't even take the trash can out because she's a has anxiety she's afraid of getting bashed and she's like what can i do what else can i do i can put on this little gay ass coat ugly like like ugly old vintage ralph lauren not even good stuff kind of like stuff anna wintour would like and she just kind of goes out and just like trying to pay homage to like ugly starlets of whoever gives a fuck time period

she's going around interviewing people on a little dumbass notepad that writes for itself yeah you're a training queen we all see it and it's time for you to go home call your endocrinologist. Yeah, get the hormones. Sashay in there. Sashay to the endocrinologist. And also, like, find support. Find a sense of community.

Get out of the magical realm. It's not safe for you there. Twitter and the magical realm aren't the real world. It would be the villains. The villains would be trans. If they're harry potter if there were trans characters they would be the villains um i wanted to before we go into um i don't think so honey i feel i would be remiss if we didn't say that you really were fabulous and together together and i was very proud of you in a real way to drop all pretense orifice all

these things you were so good and like I was very proud of you and I went to see you at the Universal City Walk and and it was my second movie back I saw King Kong Godzilla and then you and you were the biggest monster on screen

JK you fucking sucked and you're a monster oh my god well Matt thank you for seeing the movie I loved it I really did you were great you were so good so good well that means a lot to me I really feel like there is this thing that um there is this thing all um there is this thing all of a sudden your press voice kicks in what if we watched what if we watched Evan we pulled up the clip and Patty was like

hey yeah it definitely was a really fun set improvise wise we definitely improv I was working with Ed Helms who's amazing clap yeah you know I'm from the office and he was really fun our trailers were actually nice to each other so we would have lunch together and it was crazy he would do practical jokes here he put a spider a big spider in my soup and it was really fun

ellen anyway thanks for having me that's what you should that's what you were like on Ellen. That is. Put a spider in my hair. In my soup. In your soup. From California Chicken Cafe. What were you going to say about the film? I was just going to say that it's nice of you. It's really nice of you to say that.

And it means a lot to me that you saw it. An interesting phenomenon after having the movie come out is that I think I had... I just promoted means a lot to me that you saw it the an interesting phenomenon after having the movie come out is that i think i had i just like promoted it a lot on social media so i think people were aware that it was happening but a lot of my friends not seeing it and every time i see them they they will tell me they haven't seen it yet and i'm just like you don't have to you don't actually ever have to see it can i tell tell you something? It is not in my. I told you that because, and the reason I said it was because I genuinely did want to go see it.

By the way, do you see, I have this sock on my hand. I don't know how this happened. You have two socks. I have two socks on my hand and I don't know how it happened. It sort of looks like Mario. Your color scheme, you look like a Dr. seuss but i remember it's you know what it's when we did the reading we did a reading for a movie patty and i saw you and i knew i was like oh i haven't seen it yet and i saw you make a little bit of a face like i didn't know what it was i thought maybe you were irritated that i hadn't

seen it or and now and now i, now I know that you felt like, I don't know why you didn't have to tell me. Yeah. It's, it's my, that look is like me about to be like, you know, you don't have to like,

you don't have to see, it doesn't hurt my feelings. If like my, I don't like, I don't see a lot of stuff that like my friends do not like, it's like, if I know something is like really important to somebody and they've expressed that to me and it's like one of my best friends. Then like, yeah, I want to see my friends work, but I don't get to catch everything.

I feel like that's the thing, too, is just like having a lot of friends that are like doing things all the time, like making stuff. It's like you don't see everything. So I don't ever expect anybody to see it but people see me if people run into me and especially like in like at a lockdown like they see me somewhere the first thing they'll be like oh i haven't watched your movie yet but i want to see it really badly and i'm like you actually don't have to watch it i don't see why hurt my feelings if you don't watch it i I should never have done that. So all of that is to say. I'm so stupid.

No, it's not stupid. No, I really am. I get it though. I get because I think people like I think people get that. It's like this. I think social media. I think social media. It's really fun.

It's really fun. I had an amazing time with that elf on set. He showed me the ropes on our team. Oh, my gosh. There was one time on set where the joke even put a spider in my suit. You should have done the elf interview like that for real. Like that. You should have been like.

When I was four years old my brother was killed in a car accident half a mile down the street from my house it's informed my entire scope of the world and how i interact and see empathy in others and in myself but anyways yeah sorry i don't know thank you for saying it i've um and first of all i'm not i i the only reason i bring it up now because i know how much it fucking bothers you is because i want people out there that are listeners of the pod and readers of the pod to see it too because i think it would enrich their life okay so that's the only reason i tell you whether or not i saw what you've done is because i actually liked it a lot and i think it would enrich their life okay well thank you yeah that's really kind of you to promote the

movie and the podcast i mean i do appreciate it good i was about to burp but the readers don't have you you don't have to if you see patty don't tell her world don't tell her i don't have to be the first thing you tell her don't tell me you haven't seen the movie. If you haven't. It makes sense. It's like an indie movie. No one sees that shit. It's not Godzilla versus King Kong.

Yeah, which, by the way, I definitely saw first. That was top of my list. I was like, oh, I can see a movie. Well, I'm definitely not seeing no indie. I'm going to Godzilla Kong. I watched it until, I think, literally maybe 20 minutes into the movie when they're fighting on the boats. They're standing on the big like carrier ship.

Yeah. Fighting. And I was like, I've suspended my disbelief for this whole time. And I just can't suspend it this much. Yeah. You know, I was like, this just those boats. This is just not how the physics would work. Yeah. I was like, Ed Helms those boats, this is just not how the physics would work. Yeah, I was like, Ed Helms and Patty haven't fucked yet.

I was like, I've suspended my disbelief for this long. I'm like, I can't. Wait, this is platonic? Like, I was like, they haven't reeled each other yet? No, we, our characters do. What? Everyone says that it's a movie about platonic friendships, but there is a scene. There's a scene, there's literally a scene where it's like. about platonic friendships but there is a scene there's a scene there's literally a scene

it's like a quick shot well we go for we go for like it's in the beginning of the movie they're talking sorry remember when I said let me be the one who you never said my own journey earlier

earlier in the podcast I said hey can you let me steer my own journey. He didn't hear that either. Earlier in the podcast, I said, hey, can you let me steer my own journey? You often interrupt me. Go and examine that. Well, I am saying it now. Okay.

Okay. Sorry. There's a scene earlier in the movie. There's a scene early in the movie where he felches me. And then,

but wait, and then are you in a Julio's character platonic in the movie too or do you guys do is there something sexual there uh we are platonic but julio does um he fucks gavin uh mcginnis the guy who the gavin mcginnis the guy the former vice guy who became the leader of the boys oh yeah okay but he's dressed as a woman and that's the thing and then um and then gavin mcginnis like panic beats him up and then it has its own spinoff in the works where that's the court case about like gay panic is nicole doing that one too um nicole beckwith is signed on to do that movie it is being

made by anna perna and radio shack and radio shack's having a big comeback and they put a lot of money into this and it's just really cool and great that they're invested in the arts in that way i think that's really that's really commendable amazing that's amazing i'm so excited for you i'm so excited i'm looking at you and i'm so excited for you I'm so excited for you I'm looking at you and I'm so excited for you you're like a movie star that's so amazing and I feel it too is the thing the thing is when I walk

when I go out and I walk to get my groceries and I'm wearing my sundress and my sneakers that are white but they got a little dirt on them relatable girl relatable girl what I said relatable girl um yeah I guess I don't know I don't try not to look at it that way they're just shoes after all um people do stop and they look at me and I'm knowing in that moment that they're not just looking at me because of my height or my curve and all the right places or my breasts that are just the right height, not too big, but a good handful. They're recognizing me from something that they watched and something that they fawned over in a character that they fell in love with.

And there's something incredible about that. Yes, there is. I don't know. In the COVID-19 of it all, I feel that there's so little magic left in ourselves. We're not optimistic. We're pessimistic, if anything. Yeah. And I would just like more people to be able to feel what it feels like to be a movie star

and I think everyone should give it a try I hope that I hope that thank you it is time for I don't think so honey the real housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that. I love that. Oh my gosh. Welcome. And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg. You're recording us? I am disgusted. Never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would

reach out to our sworn enemy. We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll.

This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer. And the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer.

I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean.

He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian.

Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Cuba. Mr. González wanted to go home, and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami.

Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian González story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and Basketball Hall of Famer. I'm a mom and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman.

And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. It's a segment on our podcast that we do. And it's 60 seconds. What's it about? I'm not telling you. It's 60 seconds of ranting

about something in pop culture or life that we feel it's time for it to hear it, you know? I like to go first. Okay. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey, that I ever

said a bad word about Kristen Stewart. And I'm gonna come out here and say that I apologize because I have said many sort of as many people would call shady comments about Kristen Stewart I have come on this podcast and say I don't think she does much of anything at all and she just sort of shows up on camera and looks gorge and she gets a pass for it and I thought her lip biting in Twilight sort of like

was really all she did. And then sort of, you know, as she moves on in time, she does Clouds of Sils Maria and she sort of like impresses me there. And then all of a sudden, the Spencer trailer happens. And I have to say,

I don't think so, honey, myself. Because it looks like she embodies Diana Spencer, aka Princess Diana, aka Diana, Princess of Wales, aka the basis for one of the most famous Beanie Babies of all time. And it looks like she is doing it beautifully. And I loved her two words that we heard in the trailer.

They don't. I thought that was really beautiful. And I think anyone that can hold their own opposite. Sally Hawkins, one of the best British actresses. There's my respect. So I don't think so, honey me. For the things I've said, I eat crow. I eat crow pa. And that's one minute. You're eating crow pie

i'm eating crow pie i actually said when you eat crow pie um but you say with a southern accent like sutton strack i don't think you know who that is but it's okay um she's a real housewife of beverly hills okay okay well thank you for explaining it to me. Yeah. Why did you feel the need to apologize about comments you made on, about Curse's Stuart? Because I think I've been, I think honestly, this is a, this is a real thing. I think, and I'll just, I'll just say this. Sometimes like I get very sensitive and frustrated when someone has something to say about me on the social media. And I heard what you said before about people kind of feeling like they can say whatever they want about you on social. And then you actually are a person and you're rather sensitive. And I've discovered about myself that I am sensitive. And it's actually been kind of interesting to have projects come out and then

have them be up for consumption and have them be, you know, discussed. And it's almost like people talk about you like as if you are not a person. And it's been interesting to know that we've had this podcast for now going on like six years where we've sort of like discussed celebrities and like both like serious and non-serious ways. Like sometimes we have a lot of fun with them and other times we're like actually dissecting the work and stuff and i think it can kind of get gray area e but i think um i've just been sort of examining the ways in which um i've like dragged certain people and kristen stewart is someone that i drag quite a bit and i don't think she necessarily did anything to deserve it and probably her experience with fame was very painful and especially knowing that she's a member of the queer community and that she probably had a lot of things going on and was forced to sort of appear a way that she was uncomfortable with.

And I just think that I did not need to say things I've said about her, such as, you know, that she does nothing on screen. It's not her fault that she doesn't need to do much on screen to be effective. And I looked at this trailer and I thought, wow, here she is like taking a really big swing and it looks like it's really paying off. And I think that I really respect her because I think that she knows that she's someone that the media and young people, especially as social media, kind of grew to prominence as she became famous,

had a lot of fun with in ways that probably were not fun for her. And I examined my behavior and the way I've contributed to that conversation in the past. And I would like to say that I'm excited to see the movie. And I am apologetic about the ways in which I have dragged her in the past. I feel that it was not fair. And I feel I was being childish and immature. And now that I have a little bit more of an experience with it, I've retract. Well, this is a very developed,

very well thought out response to this big trailer that was a lot of fun to watch. Very interesting. And I was that, yeah, that thank you for articulating that. I think that it's really wonderful that you show a lot of growth in your perspective shift and kind of the empathy that you found only through kind of your own success, which is don't think that you know it's like it's like the way you talk if you're venting and you're talking shit about someone that you know in your

life but they're not in the room that's one thing you take big swings you're also trying to make your friends laugh you're like you know you're maybe saying things that are more like venomous to get a reaction to be hyper. You're being hyperbolic and you're saying things you don't necessarily fully believe to like, you know, get a reaction and get a point across, make your friends laugh. But if that person was an earshot, you wouldn't be talking about them that way. And I feel like that's kind of what the Internet is. People just think that you're out of the room. But really, you can go that people can go in and like read the things that you say but people are so bold as to like comment on your

stuff that's interesting when people respond to you and like dms and say shit or like comment on yourself and then when you're like hey that's like a really weird mean thing to say and they backpedal and they're like oh my gosh i just never thought you'd read it it's like that's happened a bunch of you so it's like negative attention seeking behavior and that's like i think its own like illness of social media that people need to be like doing some work on themselves to make sure they're not doing because a lot of people do it and yeah i used to do it i used to went and that's the growth of it all is like the growth of it all is that when i first got twitter in like 2009 or 2010 maybe yeah that sounds about right but it was it would have been when i discovered grimes i used to tweet at her there i was doing this running joke where i would

tweet at her every day and be like reply to me i need your reply right please reply to me and like say be really random say really random like fucked up stuff uh to her like sexual stuff and but the implicit thing is that you're like she would never see this but the fact but that's not necessarily yeah and you're doing it as a bit right and now people do shit like that to me where they'll reply to everything that i'm doing. And I'm like, I see it. And it's just like, oh, this feels like weird. You know, this person, I don't, they want me to see it. But it's like, what reaction do they think they're going to have?

I mean, now I think Grimes is like pure trash. I say all that. And then I'm like, she's liquid trash. No, I don't like her. I don't like what she's choosing, the life that she's choosing now. And I hope, you know, I hope she comes out of whatever this phase of her life and thinks about what she's done. But also, I'm just not going to put energy into that you know yeah i'm gonna eat my amazing tomato soup from california chicken cafe which does look good i just didn't want to i would

feel stupid if i was one of those people that was like like now as i become more successful it's like how fucking dare they drag me when it's like you know like you've done it like the real the thing that will make you straight the thing that will make you fucking straight is is when you have to start applying that level of empathy to every person in the world and in your life and only then i'll be straight when you think about who when you decide when you decide to have when you decide to turn that little valve on and who you don't give that empathy to just because you're being like, meh, no. It's like, you know, I bet there's other people who deserve that same empathy that you need to take that skeleton of your logic and then kind of put it on their situation too. And, you know, I don't think a lot of people want to do that.

And I think that's okay. You know, I think people are in a tough mental spot right now. I'm that way too. I think the place that I'm in right now really hard mentally is that I loved a big part of joy that I got. A big place of joy in my life was making fun of bad stuff. Making fun of movies and TV shows that i thought were bad um because that stuff gets crammed down your throat especially like really high budget stuff

that's bad it's like now we're in this like culture vacuum where it's like you can't it's like everything has to be positive like you can't it's like let people enjoy the things they want to enjoy or whatever and i'm like well this is like a corporate like advertising machine and i'm not allowed to have like a criticism of it it's just like and again you are allowed to have a criticism of it it's just like if you're willing to deal with the pushback or not but i will say that i felt you know unable to talk shit about stuff in the way that i like i thought was fun to before in the last couple years because yeah because of like my career and like now i've met some of the people that are in movies that i used to make fun of and and worked on it's like you never know who produced. Right, exactly. You're working with like a producer

who has been working in TV for years and like also produced this thing that you think sucks. And it's like you have to be, it's like, oh, now that I know that person, I don't want to hurt their feelings. Like I now, it's like, it's not just being about like, oh, I want to save my ass. It's like, oh, this person like put a lot of work into this thing that people really hate i think they've

kind of like you know endured the brunt of it yeah yeah yeah yeah but i don't know i just like also i'm not gonna put energy into dictating how other people react to that shit because other people have a lot more anger detachment that they can gleefully you know slice someone up about um but it does change i think that your level of empathy changes and i'm like oh man i think i kind of have to be nice about everything because the other night i was like drunk with my friend hillary and we were watching he's all that and i was making fun of it on instagram stories and i got a couple replies of people being like why are you being so mean to addison ray like people who didn't follow me too which was like oh god and i'm

like i'm not being mean to her this movie just really sucks like this movie is really fucking also and like that's what i think i'm being very clear that i'm like this is just a stupid array of decisions people have made that all culminate in this piece of like work that is like so fucking funny how stupid and awful it is and that's like it doesn't mean that the actors in it are bad or that they're bad people. But I think it does point out that there are a lot of people in the film industry who are pure corporate business people who get to call creative shots on stuff. And unfortunately, they have notes on stuff. And I wish those people's names were on the front of the movie and their contact information so you could fucking let them feel the ire of people when you don't like serve uh the community right or something like it's like yeah talk to the fucking like finance department or whatever

the business affairs department who's like being like this character actually is like their sense of humor is not landing with us. So we're actually going to make this character Caitlyn Jenner, if that's okay. It's like, yeah. And then the people online see that and they're like, oh my God, Caitlyn Jenner. This sucks. But it's like the people who are like protecting or concerned about someone like Addison Rae, let's say. Like there's a weird weird poisoning of the mind to be like,

she doesn't need your protection. She doesn't need you to protect her necessarily either. It's like, I don't know. It's weird. Well, I think... Meanwhile,

people like us, we did not have... We were not like... Now things are different, but we were not always supported by some infrastructure in terms of knowing... I don't know. Between the three of us, at least, we really had to earn our way, earn our keep

into these places we're at. And that's a different emotional background versus like and this is not to like discount like what these people go but like someone like i'm gonna say someone like addison ray and i don't know what her struggle is necessarily and she has some of course but it's like this is a completely different like echelon of like fame or of, like, put forward as someone who, like, people will like. That, like, there's a, there's a, I don't know. I think there's a, there's a subtle, there's a more nuanced way to be, like, not everything has to be, like, not everything gets to be important. Some things get to be stupid.

Right. Yeah. And I think that there is room for humor. You know what I mean? Yes. The reason I stop and want to do the thing about Kristen Stewart is because I'm thinking about the things I've said about her. And I think they might have been just, like, lazy and, like, whatever. like if i went back throughout this entire podcast or my entire life online or whatever and like combed through everything i've said about celebrities there's no use in doing that

because like it's just silly like because there should be that you like that is like there is something to like combing through what we get fed in the entertainment industry and like like calling it out and like making jokes about it like make jokes 100 i just think i was watching the trailer for spencer and i was like oh i've been like nasty about her and i think it was like a lazy thing and it's sort of a thing of like i think we all do it like you know like years ago we get on this podcast like make comments about ellen it's probably because we thought well none of us will ever be actually on her show. We're never going to actually have to meet her, so what the fuck? Who cares

if we drag Ellen? Then, all of a sudden, it's like, you're in the green room and Ellen, and she comes and knocks on the door and says, hey, just wanted to say hey before our big interview with no audience. And our teams have talked beforehand to make sure that there's a ceasefire because of some silliness I've said on the podcast, Las Culturistas.

You know what I mean? It's just like, it's all so surreal and funny that we're all even successful at all. I think about that all the time. I'm just looking at how my life has changed in the past five, six years and the way both of your lives have changed in the past five, six years and not a little bit in awe of it. Because I'm like, wow, I never thought anything. I just thought I would be on the Brooklyn podcast forever. And maybe that's why I felt the safety to be like, yeah, Ellen's dick. You know what I mean?

But also, ultimately, it was funny. So, I don't know. It's like an interesting thing to all of a sudden have to deal with that kind of thing. You know what I mean? Well, with all that said, it's going to be time for Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. Bowen, are you ready for your I Don't Think So Honey? I'm ready. Okay.

This is Bowen's I Don't Think So Honey as time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey's sucking dick. Let's normalize l, honey. As time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Sucking dick. Let's normalize licking balls. Licking balls should be the top of the list. It's easier on the mouth. You don't have to do all this crazy stuff. You don't have to like think of it. It's just easier mentally, logistically to just like go for the balls first and then not even touch the damn shaft.

Okay? I just want to work on the balls. No. I don't want to touch no cartilage. I don't want to touch any cartilage in the penis at all. I just want to work with the scrotum. That's it. And that's all I have to say.

And that's 42 seconds. Finish your time. Because you know what balls actually feel more sanitary to me there's not literal piss coming out of it why the hell would you put something with pee coming out of it in your mouth it's someone else you're gonna love it it's no i don't care and that's what i think it's less funky if it's the balls that's all I'm saying pee is sterile you're gonna love it clean freaks you're gonna love it that is vile what you've said

balls are the worst I don't want to talk about I don't want them in my mouth I love balls they smell the only reason you go down on somebody like that is to make them cum and if you're not gonna be able to make them cum with the balls why are you gonna put them in your mouth you don't know if you're not gonna be able to make them cum with the balls, why are you gonna put them in your mouth? You don't know that.

You don't know that you're not gonna be able to make them cum with the balls. Ah, yeah, I do. Ah, yeah. Ah, yeah, yeah. I do. I go up and down on the side like I'm eating corn, and then that makes them cum. Wow.

But then that's a dick still in your mouth, stupid ass. No, I'm saying I would be open to that, but I just, there's something about like, I feel like damn Kirby. I don't like sucking dick either. I just feel like... I'm sorry, that makes me I feel like I have nothing to offer if I don't like

sucking dick. I'm like, well... No, because I absolutely love eating ass. Period. Me too. You don absolutely love eating ass period me too you don't love eating ass i love eating ass but then it sends a mixed signal because they're like oh i thought oh i guess is he like is he like getting me ready like i'm like oh no no no i just like doing this you know ass i feel like is sucking i i and i. I like sucking dick. Pick me. I'm a pick me girl. I like sucking dick.

But I think it's more work and it depends. I don't like sucking a big dick. I don't like that. I have a really small mouth. And literally, I remember when I was 13, a dentist, which I wasn't sucking dick then. But this dentist was like, oh my gosh, your mouth is so small. And put her fingers in my mouth and tried to spread my mouth open wider so she could get this floor set thing in. And she split both my mouth. And like. Tried to spread my mouth open wider. So she could get like this like. Foreset thing in.

And she split both my lips. Oh. Like. Because they were also really chapped. Because I was always licking my lips. Trying to get people to let me suck their dicks. And they never did. And.

And that's good. They should know. I wasn't in a mentally good place. And I wasn't old enough. I'm sorry. To do that. So. It sounds like.

It sounds like she was like a Jennifer Coolidge character like oh my god your mouth is so small oh my god your mouth is so small you're really small now makes me want a hot dog classic

wait it's her birthday today happy birthday Jen happy birthday Jen I just think it's her birthday today happy birthday happy birthday jen oh happy birthday jen um no i just think it's a lot of it's like my jaw hurts if it's like big and then it's just like it's like if it's if you're trying to it's like there are guys that like like deeps like going in like deep and i'm like i don't think that feels good i don't think it's like not like it's not like nice and soft back there it's all. I don't think it's like not like it's not like nice and soft back there. It's all like weird.

And right. Like it's like I think it's just for those the action of like you choking. Yeah, right. They want to see you tear up a bit, which I'm like, well, honey, I can't really break down the psychology of like the two gay men like the man who's getting head the gay man who is getting head from another man what psychologically is happening there versus a like a straight or like queer guy who is getting head from a trans woman like i think there might be a different psychology of like but i don't't know. It's all porn. I think it's probably any mistreatment you get sexually is probably stemmed in something they saw in a video.

I had a guy a couple of years ago who had a giant dick who I like literally pulled it. I was like going down on him. And I pulled out for a second to like get hair out of my mouth because I was like sucking my own hair into my throat. And so I like stopped for a second and turned to like get my hair out of my face. And when I turned back, he had like bent his dick like back. And he like like slingshot it and like he he like held it back and then he like smacked me in the face with it like a damn like oh my god like yeah like he like bent it back like like and smacked me in the face like on my face with his dick and i was like why did you do that and he was like I wanted to be rough and I thought that you would

he thought you were a looney tune I don't like that but it wasn't sexual trauma I wasn't afraid he was it was just annoying you just like doyoing yeah looney tuned me Marvin the Martian

that was actually like Yoda. But that was a real life. How does he talk? What if I did another? I don't think so, honey. Marvin the Martian. I will to fling my dick at parties. That's kind of Caitlyn Jenner.

That's Caitlyn Jenner like intubated. This is Caitlyn Jenner. I'm running for governor of California. And I think that we need a big change in this big state my Caitlyn Jenner is Lorne Michaels and that's just what I am gonna have to accept and I'll leave it there Lorne Jenner impression is Lorne is a Lorne Michaels impression she's got it come back here with my show what is that? That's Lauren from TV Fun. The TV Fun House. Yeah. Give me back my show. It's time. It's my money and I need it now. Patty.

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it's time for your I don't think so honey now patty harrison's I don't think so honey her time starts now wait

are you giving me no joke oh yeah okay stop okay are you ready okay yeah

this is patty harrison's I don't think so and her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. And when people are mad that you didn't get back to them in time. And yeah, it's fucking that shit pissed me off you know why bitch i'm sorry i cuss so much i lean on it too much i lean on cussing so much i won't cuss time starting over now i don't think so honey people who get mad at you when you don't get back to them in time no i'm at i'm at one second now now i'm at one i don't think honey, how much time I have left.

We're back at one, starting now. I don't think so, honey. People who get mad at you when you don't get back to them. Sometimes I... No. No. I don't think so, honey. People who get mad at you when you don't get back to them in time. Sometimes I want to get back...

No. I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey't think honey and that's one minute thanks that was really good given a chance i wasn't even given a chance sometimes people don't even know you're just getting busy during the day you know and you didn't have time to get back to them yeah you're why you didn't well you. No, we're adding to your I don't think so. No, Patty, she's frowning. She's frowning. She's a vet.

She's leering. What if that's how you find out I have Botox? Is that you accept me enough? That's how you find out I have Botox. It's a secret. So, wow. This has been incredible. An incredible episode. Yeah, I feel like I rambled a secret. So, wow. This has been incredible. An incredible episode.

It was, yeah. I feel like I rambled a lot. No. No. No. That's what people want from this. Hanging on to every word. They want to hear us all ramble and hang on to every word.

Okay. I had fun talking to you, but I hope I didn't over... I feel like I over-talked. Patty, no. No. Don't do this. It's been years since you've been on. Don't do this this I think I did the Annette Bening thing I drew out the impression too long

no that was the bit was that we were waiting for it it was incredible it was perfect I talked about Ellen I didn't even get into what she really did to me well we'll save that for another episode I didn't even get to do I don't think so honey no that Patty I didn't even get to do one. I don't think so, honey.

No, that... Patty... I didn't even get to do one. I think this was really one of the best episodes. Did I... Matt, did I tell you that when Bowen... When we were in Dominican Republic and we went swimming really late one night, it was like 1 a.m. after we wrapped,

and Bowen... We were literally sitting there. We were talking about what shows we were watching. I don't know and Bowen like we were literally sitting there we were talking about like what shows we were watching I don't know where Bowen just turns me and he goes you know even if I were straight I would never hook up with you because you lost too much weight too fast and it made your skin on your body

you're kind of that skinny fat situation yeah he said that to me too it wasn't unprompted he has a thing with people that are skinny fat he's he thinks that he thinks it's a compliment he says it like a backhanded compliment meanwhile it sounds like he was just aggressive to you he said i don't want to fuck you because you're skinny fat it was it wasn't unprompted she posed a question to me she said bowen if you were straight what would be the first thing you did and i was like i don't know what the first thing i would do would be but i know what i wouldn't do which is hook up

with you because i have a thing with skinny fat what is the in in c i really hate that because people will be able to like corroborate or whatever the stories because i do ask that question to a lot of guys i'm trying to turn ask Ask me. Gay guys? Gay guys? Ask me. Try to turn me. I'm a gay guy. I'm one of the gayest guys. Try to turn me right now before we go. Matt, if you had me for 24 hours alone

and I couldn't say no, what would you do? She can't say no. That's getting weird. The first thing i would do is i would order chicken parm to the house i would watch you eat it and you would get so full i'm not eating i ate before you want me to eat all of it all of it i want you to eat every bite and the penne that comes on the side. When you're really full, listen, when you're really full,

I'm going to have you run around the house at a high speed. And we're going to wait 45 minutes to the point where you probably have to use the bathroom. At that point, I'm going to take you

in the bedroom. I can't run that long. Make you put on chains. Chain you to the four-post bed. And then I have sex with every one of your

full holes. I only have the one. Your mouth first. I'm gonna be so full. I'm really tired. You know I can't run for more than about a half hour. Yeah, well you're gonna be so

tired and full and I'm not gonna let you shit either. I want you to be chock full of parm when I fuck you. We always end every episode with a song. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday. Wait, we have to harmonize.

We have to harmonize. Wait, I just assume Matt will take the lead. Happy birthday Wait, I just assume Matt will take the lead. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday. to you happy Here we go, hardest note in the whole you could ever sing.

Happy birthday dear Jennifer Coolidge Happy birthday To you You Bye Bye guys Bye.

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