Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Trauma-Rama" (w/ Fran Gillespie)
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las culturistas ding dong Las Culturistas calling
Matt you had a big night last night
Yeah
It's history making
I had sex
With Sudi Green
We woke up in the same bed
And it was a bit that
Really she forced upon it
That we had had sex
And I was like look
I'll go with it
And if people want to believe that we had sex,
I'm fine with that.
Like,
because I do feel like-
She tweeted out a statement.
Or you tweeted out a statement.
I tweeted out a statement
that confirmed that we had sex.
We did not.
But I think it's fun.
And Sudi has,
for nearly a decade,
loved to push this narrative
that we've had sex
and have a sexual relationship.
Well,
Sudi-
And we have fake had sex on stage.
And my parents
and her parents both watched.
Oh,
you guys did not fake make out.
Was that what you were talking about?
Just sticking your tongues in each other's faces?
No, Sudi is the woman in this role
that I have made out with the most.
And then it really hurt my feelings one day
when we were going to do a sketch.
Billy Domino wrote a sketch where we played,
this is a very college sketch,
we played children who woke up on Christmas morning
and were so excited that they fucked.
And that was very much Sudi and I's...
It's shocking.
Schedule relationship.
I remember that, that day.
And we were running it one time.
It was like a best of show at the end of the year.
And Sudi expressed frustration that we had to kiss and it hurt me.
What was her frustration?
She didn't want to kiss me.
And it was weird because she had gaslit me into thinking I was a good kisser.
And then all of a sudden one day she was like,
oh, I really don't want to kiss you tonight.
And I was like, well, we don't have to.
But like, ouch.
Can I ask you something?
Anytime me, you, Sudi, and your mother Katrina are in a room together,
you never fail to bring up the time when Sudi,
like we were all together after a show.
Because Sudi does this thing where
she likes to kiss people on the mouth and I want to ask
my guest if she's experienced this
phenomenon with Sudi because she
is very close with Sudi
but Sudi likes to kiss on the mouth
Let me finish this story. You go ahead.
So then Sudi and I kissed on the mouth just as a way to say goodbye
or to show affection. I can't
believe this happened. And then Katrina your mother
asked me, asked you.
Asked me, so how long have Bowen and Sudi been dating?
LOL.
And I was like, oh my God, it made me sick to my stomach.
Was it, was that, this is what I have to ask you, stop.
Was that born of jealousy?
I was jealous.
I was jealous of both parties.
I knew it, I knew it.
And also like, I was just like, was jealous of both parties. I knew it. And also like,
I was just like,
mom,
you can't think this.
I was like,
I just was like,
it's so,
I don't know.
The fact that she sexualized you both.
And you now,
it seems.
She's sexualizing you.
She sexualizes everyone.
And let's bring our guest in on this
because we need to get her.
I want to know.
I want the tea.
Well,
our guest is,
I'm so excited for this.
This is a really good one for me because I don't think our guest knows this but we love and I told I tell Sudi this
because I'm very gagged that they're so close and I love our guest very deeply in fact this our guest
was the reason I became obsessed with UCB and I used to seek out your performances and go a lot
to your show oh let's get it she was my favorite improviser at UCB when I was
first going.
First going.
Okay.
I always talk about
a scene that she did
with Middle Ditch
where they played
The Sun and the Moon.
Oh my God.
She doesn't remember
that scene
because she's done
so many,
many thousands of scenes.
It's improv.
It's disposable.
And her action
as you played The Moon
and your action was
boop, boop, bee-doop.
Which sounds right.
It sounds right.
And the credits
come rolling down. credits come rolling down
they come rolling down
she is a writer
at Saturday Night Live
supervising writer
writing supervisor
the title doesn't matter
but it does
and she's written for
What Hot American Summer
10 Years Later
and Big Mouth
which I'm obsessed
with Big Mouth
I fucking love Big Mouth
I fucking love Big Mouth
so so funny
please welcome
Fran Gillespie
hello
yeah you are my fave
I'm learning this now and it's embarrassing
me
don't be embarrassed because I genuinely love
also Sudi always tells me don't ever tell her that
and she says don't be a fan
yeah it's funny when people
are like oh my god I saw all of your
improv shows or whatever because
I just can't imagine
how many bad shows that was.
It is true.
I was doing UCB most days of the week
for the better part of a decade.
I can't remember any single scene.
That's probably good.
Not a single one.
I truly cannot remember one improv scene.
Who can? It doesn't matter. Not a single one. I truly cannot remember one improv scene. Yeah, no.
Who can?
Who can?
Well, I guess I can. It doesn't matter.
Because I was watching it with you.
But your own, you don't remember.
Also, but when I say I sought out your improv shows,
I mean, I went to like five.
Right.
You know what I mean?
I really enjoyed like five good ones that you did.
And the memories are only positive, so don't you worry.
But it is just like there are so many thousands of
shows that it's like i the percentage is like i i would say what do you think the improv percentage
is 50 good and bad i mean when you're very talented for you it might be you probably
judge them more harshly i mean i would say half the time i walk off stage i'm like oh boy there
goes that night but then half the time I'm like yeah let's get a drink
you know what I mean then those are the extremes
of it it's like you walk off stage
and you like I guess my
worst shows are ones that are just
completely fucking off the rails
but not in a fun way
there's like off the rails where
like everyone is being insane
and then you're like out of breath
at the end of the show and you're like that was crazy and there's off the rails where like everyone is being insane and then you're like out of breath at the end of the show
and you're like that was crazy yeah there's off the rails where it's like the audience wasn't even
laughing yeah right like we were all definitely screaming yeah definitely improvising but like
i i peeped like the first row and like people were frowning yeah yeah we did the assignment but was
it fun which is like honestly a lot of improv for me I never got improv
I don't know
we've talked about this
a whole bunch
on this podcast
but like I was very much
on the sketch side of things
because improv
just terrified me
so when people like
we would sometimes
do a sketch show
after an improv show
was getting out
and it'd be like
all the really good improvisers
and they would like
talk about the set
and I would be like
trying to listen in
like how do they talk about it
you know what I mean
it's a language
I never understood
but discussing an improv show after an improv
show like there might
not be anything more disgusting than that
like oh I'm sorry
oh no this is great when you're like
first on a Herald team and
after the Herald you go backstage
and then just like people are apologizing
to each other because you just like don't know
each other that well and you're like you know there's so much pressure and the stakes are so
high that you put on yourself and then you like go backstage and it's like i'm so sorry for that
second beat were you thinking analogous it's like oh oh oh no it hurts it hurts not even here were
you thinking analogous like or time jump yeah like the group game we were all dogs right
yeah
okay good
okay good
yep
and I thought that
but it was like
so disgusting
talking about
when they were
I think
I think I had
Brandon Gardner for 201
and he was like
explaining what analogous
and time jump
time lapse
time jump
time dash
time dash
I didn't even get right
because when he was
explaining it
I was like
performing so hard that I understood.
Oh, no.
That's what being 20 years old in an improv class is.
I was like, absolutely.
I get it.
And you're thinking about how much you understand
and you're not hearing any of the information,
which is unfortunately when I started singing in improv classes
when I was 19 years old.
Same with me.
Yeah.
Actually, I started when I was 18.
I went to NYU just like you guys. Just like us was 18. I went to NYU, just like you guys.
Just like us.
And when I got to NYU, who cares about this backstory?
But I'll just-
No, a lot of people care.
Okay.
So I went to NYU, and I grew up in Chicago, and I went to NYU.
And when I went to audition at NYU, it was the first time I had ever been on a plane.
I knew absolutely no one on the East Coast.
I'm Midwest, born and raised.
All my family lives in the Midwest.
We had only been on car vacations.
Not only, they're incredible.
We love them.
We love car vacations.
And I love a car vacation.
Did you have a nice good van for it?
Fuck no.
Oh my God.
We had a Volvo station wagon and I sat in the way, way back because all my other siblings
said they got car sick, which I found out later they didn't.
No, no, no, no.
I say that too.
I'm in it.
I'm one of those assholes.
It's like, oh yeah, I can't sit the middle.
Car sick.
It's like, yeah.
I can't even sit.
I have to be in the front.
And my sister said I kicked in my sleep
so I would sleep
on the floor
and she would get
like a queen size bed
when we went on vacation
anyway
it's so brutal
but we had a Volvo
station wagon
and I sat
in the way way back
sometimes with my
little brother
sometimes just with
a cooler of food
and the only time
people would interact
with me would be like
excuse me
turkey sandwich
and I would just be like and these, and these weren't short drives.
Turkey sandwich.
14 hours.
No.
14 hour drives, two stops.
Oh, yes.
To go where?
We went from Chicago to upstate.
Well, you would call it northern Minnesota.
It's like almost Canada.
And we went every summer.
Upstate Minnesota.
It's like, and we went every summer. Upstate Minnesota. It's like,
and we went every single year for 20 years
and it was great,
but I had never been on a plane.
And then,
so when I went to NYU,
obviously knew nobody,
knew nothing,
had nothing,
was just like completely lost,
sobbing to my mom.
And she's like,
just join a club.
Just go and join a club. Just like have, you know, she was over it too. Well and she's like just join a club just go and join a club just like have you know
she was over it too yeah well she was like i'm gonna pay for you to do like one of those
orientation activities it was the sex in the city bus tour okay um i did sit with a nursing student
who was like in her 40s i was like okay no friends there um But so then the same day, I auditioned for an a cappella group.
Was it Enharmonix?
Actually, I think it was.
Wow.
Was that the Tish one?
Yeah.
It was like, oh, well, maybe.
Yeah, that was a Tish one.
That was like the one.
Where they were like, their thing was like they were fierce.
Oh, my God.
I think it was Enharmonix.
I've never thought of that name probably
since i auditioned yeah but then i also auditioned for hammer cats yes fam and hammer cats was in
its second semester because it started mid-year the year before i got to nyu and so it was like
the second semester of hammer cats and then was it was like donald and of Hammercats. And then I- Was it like Donald and Derek and DC?
Wow.
Donald Glover, y'all.
That's what we're talking about.
It was Donald and Dominic.
DC was my age.
And so he was also auditioning.
Oh, cool.
But he knew the head of Hammercats
because they had grown up in Arizona together.
Dan, was it Dan or Dan?
It was, his name was AJ.
Oh.
And I think he like writes,
um,
uh,
uh,
God damn it.
Poems.
Poems.
No,
um,
what's it like,
what's like a gamer,
uh,
video games.
Oh,
video games.
Oh,
that's kind of a,
what's like a gamer?
What's like a gamer?
And she made like a little drummer boy hands.
I'm sorry,
what's like a gamer?
Yes.
Um,
and who else was in it?
Oh, Dan Greger, Doug Mann, Lou Perez, Greg Burke.
So then I joined Hammer Cats and then Forevermore.
We hung out, I would say, six days a week.
Oh, yeah.
And that was just my social life.
But then they all took UCB classes.
I had never heard of UCB, but they were like, you gotta take UCB classes. So I started when I
was like 18, 19 years. Yeah, yeah.
Which is so... So early.
So embarrassing. No!
No, no, no, no. It's embarrassing to think
of who I was when I first started.
Doing improv? Yeah. You're never the
best version of yourself back then. Oh my god.
Bad behavior every single day of my life.
But also like
was so stupid and knew nothing.
So dumb.
And so like,
I couldn't improvise about anything because I didn't know anything.
Right.
Yeah.
Also like,
wasn't street smart or book smart.
So it was just like,
but at NYU,
but all my,
so all my scenes were like about having like a mom and siblings.
You know what I mean?
What were you majoring in at NYU?
My major ended up being English and Spanish.
Okay.
Originally it was musical theater.
Oh.
And I transferred immediately because my first semester of college, my classes were like
voice lessons and Alexander technique.
And of course, writing the essay.
Writing the essay.
Writing the essay.
Yes.
Out of respect.
And I also didn't have friends in those classes
because it was like musical theater people,
which I love, but I would say...
You're not that person.
I was not making friends.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I won't blame them.
It was me.
It was like, I didn't have friends
and the classes were insane.
And I knew how much the school was costing.
And so I was like, this is not happening.
So I transferred immediately and was an English and Spanish major.
I did the opposite of you.
I was in CAS and transferred into dramatic writing at Tisch.
So I was like, let's make this degree worthless.
No, it wasn't worthless.
But I'm happy I did it because you met people that matter now.
I know. I did it because you met people that matter now. I know.
I think about college and I'm like, I had, during college, I had two NYU friends.
And then just truly every single day doing UCB stuff.
Yeah, that's where you met the people.
Yeah.
I mean, it's where like, I was just there so, so much that when I think about college,
I just think about like, you know, Hammercats and UCB.
And UCB, yeah.
But I don't think I got my willies out.
You know what I mean?
Sure.
Like, I think I had problems later into my 20s because I was like, but I didn't really have a college experience.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was a person like at Turco, like talking to the improv group and being like and where is um the party afterwards
do we get together and like drink beers okay um yes like i was a person that like at the
turco was just like okay who's someone i connected with in this uh school and where's the party
is someone driving are we doing the designated driver beer pong partners just like who just like
didn't get my willies out and so like into my like late 20s was definitely like you bringing
like beer bongs to ucb parties and being like who wants to play flip cups and living on ratio
stands is like you know no like not doing like truly a child yeah so you didn't like do get your partying um
hat on in high school you know in high school we did party but it was like we i was not cool in
high school um but definitely i i have the exact same personality now that I had in high school. And people don't like that.
Especially if you're like just kind of like always loud and mean,
but also 16 people are like friends with you because you're like kind of
scary.
Yeah.
We have to,
we don't want to be on the other side of it.
Oh my God.
I've befriended so many people like that.
Cause I desperately wanted to be cool.
I wasn't cool.
I knew I was never going to be,
it was just like,
whatever's happening is happening.
Boys like definitely didn't like me romantically,
but like, you know, I was just, I don't know.
But we would get, we would shoulder tap.
Do you know what that is?
Explain.
Okay, shoulder tapping is where you park
in a parking lot of a liquor store and someone goes and taps a stranger on the shoulder.
You give them 20 bucks and say, if you get us a brick of Milwaukee's Best, you can just keep the change.
And I grew up basically on the Northwestern campus.
And so constantly, constantly, like, you know, a 20 year old with a fake id himself was like okay fine and so we
would shoulder tap and get like a big brick of beer and then like go drink it in like someone's
basement i mean never with boys just like you know just like me and my girlfriends just like
oh we would drink a friend of mine had a pool new a pool and we would drink
beer bungs from the pool yeah of course wow of course wow of course we used to get like a little
plastic we would get one handle of bacardi razz the first alcoholic drink i ever had was bacardi
razz and now it's like when i say the words i want to throw out i know we'd mix it with orange
juice and just like have our little plastic cups and be in my one friend who had a cool mom's backyard and be sipping this weird drink, Bacardi Razz and orange juice.
Is that a thing?
That's too many flavors.
Too many flavors.
Yeah, right?
We didn't know at the time.
Bacardi Razz is already a flavored thing.
It's so much.
Is it carbonated or no?
I don't think it is.
No, okay.
And then we would just put it together because you knew you needed a mixer.
It's an alcoholic drink. You need a mixer.
So you get that and that and put it
together and I don't know.
Bacardi Raz was like a thing. You decide
you want something. It was Bacardi Raz
and 99 apples.
99 proof
apple vodka.
And I had one friend, Kenny, who I
just referenced in the last episode,
who would fill a water bottle up with 99 apples.
And then he loved to show off how he could chug it.
He's going to love hearing this.
He listens.
I'm going to throw up.
And literally, we would be insanely fucked up.
And I would just like, honestly, I'd almost like,
it was like defining how to not drink
like in the very first few weeks of discovering alcohol.
So I guess like we got like our vicious alcohol problems out of the way very early and like
really wrecked ourselves like right there because it's Long Island and that's just what
you did.
Do you guys have drinks that you can't have anymore because it was like when you-
Wheat beer. Yeah, beer yeah because okay at my
college graduation i went back to long island my parents threw me like a graduation party
and they had um blue moon on tap and it was like an open bar the situation they had had so i was
drinking a lot of blue moon because i thought for some reason it felt like it was light to me i don't
know i didn't really know any better whatever Whatever. Yeah. Wee beer is sneaky though. Okay.
And it's also like kind of tasty.
Yeah. It tastes like orange-ish.
Yeah. It's like dessert-ish in a way.
It comes with an orange. You can't really have more than
a couple. Right. But I had more than a couple.
And then my uncle, my one uncle was like
buying us tequila shots. Oof. And so
let me tell you. And wee beer
doesn't, it tastes good going
down. It does not taste good going up. Couldn't smell it for like eight years. What's that drink for you, and wheat beer doesn't, it tastes good going down. It does not taste good going up.
Couldn't smell it for like eight years.
What's that drink for you, Fran?
I mean, when I was young, because we didn't have money,
we would get the cheapest vodka you could ever possibly get.
Was it Georgie?
I mean, I think it was like label-less.
It was like so cheap that it was just like a bottle.
And it was like, you know,
you needed to like check with the cashier what it was.
But I can't have any vodka.
Yeah, I can't have any vodka anymore either.
Because it's like the easiest thing to get wrong
if you buy it cheaply.
And if it's like an $8 handle of vodka
and you're like, there's no way it's good.
You will throw up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's yours, Bowen?
Like Mike's hard,
but that's everybody's, right?
Oh, yeah.
Mike's hard.
I vividly remember a night
when all my drama complaints
forced me to stay
at this person's house
when my parents were freaking out
being like,
come home now.
It's 10 p.m.
Come home.
It's a Friday.
But then this was,
Heroes had just come out on NBC.
Holy shit.
Way to transport us.
People were freaking the fuck out
about this new show, Heroes.
And so everyone was like,
but no, we're marathoning Heroes.
We have Mike's Hard Lemonade.
You're staying.
You're drinking at least three
and then you're gonna call.
And then John's gonna give you a ride home.
And then it was like the worst day of my entire the worst night of my whole life being
forced to watch heroes while drinking mike's hard lemonade did you get like black i didn't get black
i just like i got like i got like asian blush like red and i was just like i don't this doesn't
feel but mike's hard doesn't have a ton of alcohol in it but it has so much sugar that you're just like
it's like pounding
like fruit punch
and then like
could you imagine drinking like a gallon of fruit punch
no no and then just like
yeah but it has that vibe
a little thimble of vodka or something
honestly like the boys would drink
like beer and the girls would
drink like these like synthetic drinks,
like Smirnoff Ice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And like they would get,
they were drinking,
they were getting more fucked up
because like that's a drink
you get fucked up on.
And Smirnoff Ice also is like
basically Mike's Hard Lemonade.
It's like sugar.
Or the Mike's Hard,
you know,
because they were sweet,
they were like for girls.
Anybody else uncomfortable
with the color of smirnoff ice
yeah it looks does it look like cum yes it's like watery it's like it looks like it's so
fucking insane to be like chugging it looks like it looks like if you you know when people like
dip they like yeah it's like if you were doing that with like gum like if you're like chewing
gum and then just like spit spit it. It's disgusting.
Did people do like dip?
Did people dip around you in high school?
I knew some guys.
I stayed far away from those dippers.
Dip is a big baseball thing.
Yeah.
And dip is,
well, the funny thing about dip is it's like,
it's something that you can get a buzz on even,
you know, like if I was sitting here i could have dip in
my mouth and you wouldn't know or you would because my my lip would be bulgy but it's not like
it's like um it's like acceptable and acceptable way of like even when you're working or just like
in public of like getting a buzz yeah but it's so disgusting because it dyes your gums. You're black.
And it's just like the most obvious
like don't. It's so gross.
It's a no. It's a never. It's a no.
And then people have Gatorade bottles
and then just be just like spitting
into the like mini Gatorade bottle
brown juice. Stop. That's the
most heterosexual thing I've ever
heard in my life. Not that it's
a Gatorade bottle.
Now that I'm talking about this, I'm like, wait, would that be like kind of a sexy thing
for me to get into?
And if you started, started dipping.
Dude, should I dip?
I think you should dip.
Dude.
Just start getting Gatorade.
Wait.
Was it, does a Julio Torres joke like.
I got, I got my straight friend a gift and I got him an empty Gatorade bottle
okay wait Fran let's talk about drinking
reminds me of a time I don't know if you remember this
this was at DCM like 3-4 years ago
I hope I was nice no you were so nice
it was the three of us in Tarver and I think Brandon Scott Jones
were standing outside
a bar we were all wasted
Foss was there too
and we were all standing outside a corner
and then we were talking about how
pride was insane
because pride always
falls during DCM
not this year
but we were like
someone was like
everyone gets so
naked on pride
it's like
pull your pants up
and then you
came darting out
like you heard us
one of us say this
and then the bit
the entire night was
pull your pants up
like you saying
pull your pants up pull your was, pour your pants up, like you sang. Oh, do you remember that?
Pour your pants up.
Pour your pants up.
I do remember that.
It stayed with us.
It stayed with us.
That was the first time we ever interacted.
And I was like, that shit just nailed it.
Pour your pants up.
You better pour your pants up.
You better pour your pants up.
I actually really am remembering that now.
And I'm happy that that was a memory,
because speaking of a storied UCB history, or
if you're just like around long enough, this will happen.
Things are coming back to me to bite me in my ass now where people are like, six years
ago, you said this to me.
And it was not nice.
You know, it's just, it's never not nice, but it's like, okay.
So like someone puts on instagram and when i would
go on tours to i toured so much you did a lot of tours for years it was like my main way of making
money yeah and whenever anybody would ask me like for advice like kids on these are not kids but you
know these these college students yeah would be like what should i do i would always say like
don't go to grad school. Don't move
to the middle of nowhere.
Just move to New York or LA.
I do stand by that, but
multiple times now, I've been
tagged in Instagram posts, and it's like,
at BrangleSB told me when I was
20, why would
I do anything except move to New York or LA?
It's never negative, but I'm like, damn,
why do people remember that? Don York or LA? And it's never negative, but I'm like, damn, why do people remember that?
Don't blame me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because it's hard to make it.
Yeah, I know.
It's not bad advice, but I'm like, ugh.
It's not bad advice.
It's not.
That's the thing that keeps coming back to me
because people are tagging me in a lot of posts like that.
But I am haunted now by like, oh, yeah,
after a UCB show in in 2005 you said to me
and i'm like oh my god brace yourself brace yourself because also it's like don't you look
back on a younger version of yourself giving advice and you're like no bitch no we're gonna
listen back to this and be like to our fucking podcast like two years from now even oh no no
already i'm like i know that there's hundreds of hours
of us talking.
Yeah.
And I'm like,
well, something's coming back.
Yeah.
Something's coming back.
And it's also just like,
it's dorky to like hear advice you get.
Like,
and who am I to be giving any type of advice?
But it's also just like,
please don't quote me back to me.
Because also like,
if it's, yeah, you don't quote me back to me because also like yeah if it's yeah
you talk to me after a show i was probably in a hurry to leave or get to mcmanus yeah so like
we're drunk already right exactly like if you cornered me after a show in 2006 and i was like
short with you like i'm so sorry but i that's just me like Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But then I see people who have so much patience,
are so kind, will give like everybody the time of day.
And I'm like, I just think for me,
it would come off disingenuous.
Sure, I mean, there's a risk of that.
Like I, yeah, but you,
but I will never forget the advice Fran Gillespie gave to me.
No.
Which was, put your pants up.
Put your pants up.
Put your pants up.
And that's good advice.
Let me tell you something about these sluts on pride. You look like a mess, honey. Put your pants up. Put your pants up. Put your pants up. And that's good advice. Let me tell you something about these sluts on pride.
You look like a mess, honey.
Put your pants up.
No, we love nudity on pride.
We love nudity on pride.
Although not when it's centered
towards muscly cisgendered
white male bodies.
Yes, you need some shame too.
Cisgender.
We went to the gay bar
the other night.
Well, you didn't come.
I didn't come.
But I went out
and I couldn't believe, like, I don't know if you're experiencing this in LA. Well, you didn't come. I didn't come. But I went out and I couldn't believe,
like, I don't know if you're experiencing this in LA.
Well, you now live sometimes in LA,
sometimes in New York.
By costal.
By costal.
I couldn't believe,
like, everyone here is, like, so hot.
Like, I went to the gay bar and I was like,
oh, forget it.
Like, if I'm, like, a New York whatever number,
like, bump me down five.
Everybody is so good looking in LA and
women too it's like everybody
is like thin tan
blonde yeah and
I mean truly like everybody
even just look oh this is mean
but be mean girl be mean
be mean I was gonna say this is so
mean oh my god
I was gonna say look at the performer pages
I know no no no no you're right
and everyone knows it you're right there's a difference it's like we got some tv faces in la
and um and they're on tv writers yeah but but the thing is and they are on tv and that's true
that's true yeah most of them but i think it's like an active lifestyle. Well, I am a New York person through and fucking through.
I was saying.
When people do a like 9.30 show or, you know, like a UCB show ends at like 9.30 or whatever.
And it's like, what's everybody doing?
And it's like going home.
I actually need to wake up early and tomorrow morning for Pilates.
It's like, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Meanwhile, it's like you do like a 10.30 show on a Tuesday at UCB.
We're going to the bar.
Yeah, yeah.
It doesn't matter what's happening.
Right.
We did a show.
But it ages you.
It really ages you.
Sure, sure.
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Sudi
Bowen and I
are having what we call
the Summer of Cunt
with RK
where we're all gonna get
very attractive
and snatched
oh
if you wanna join
oh my god
if you wanna join
I can't wait
we should add you
to the text thread
Summer of Cunt text thread
and just tell each other
like what we're doing
like the other day
I almost had a slice of pizza
but I texted them
and I didn't they're like it's like a yeah yeah yeah like
my sponsor it's beautiful oh my god i've eaten lots of pizza while i was here well then the like
main issue in la for me is i'm a uh a fourth meal or before it was a thing yeah i got that
midnight meal baby right before you go to sleep, right? Yes, of course. That's when I'm hungriest. Of course.
The amount of times...
Field me up.
Please.
The amount of times
I have woken up
with remnants of sandwich
on my bare naked chest.
Truly turkey slices
all day, every day.
Or just like...
Chicken salad, baby.
That's mine.
Oh, I know.
On my body.
At least the word salad
is in the equation.
I used to do tuna salad.
Oh.
Before, I did tuna salad. Oh. Before,
I did tuna salad
because it was like
$2 a container.
But then a girlfriend of mine,
Sue Galloway,
was like,
you're going to get
mercury poisoning.
Because I was eating
like a container,
like truly resting it
on my chest,
eating like
with my bare hands
until I would fall asleep.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Honestly. Like four or five days a week. Oh my God. Minus fucking pretzels. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Honestly.
Like four or five days a week.
Oh my God.
Minus fucking pretzels.
Oh, I love pretzels.
I love pretzels.
I'll sleep with a bag of pretzels.
Hard pretzels.
Like not even like...
Wait, what kind?
Bavarian?
Okay.
Do you know...
Bavarian twist?
Bavarian twist?
I love Bavarian twist.
Not even like the plastic bag of pretzels.
It's like a hard plastic little like tin
that you get from like CVS.
And the pretzel rings.
Yeah, they're like hard pretzels. I don't know. I'll take a picture of it and send tin that you get from like CVS. And the pretzel rings.
Yeah, they're like hard pretzel.
I don't know.
I'll take a picture of it and send it to you later. Take a picture.
Well, I'm all about the rods.
Yeah, I love the rods.
Love the rods.
All about the rods.
Title of ep.
Let me tell you.
Okay.
And now look at the beauty glow up that we're all experiencing.
Fran, you came in.
Oh, yes.
You kind of
Streisand effected this it's not exactly
a Streisand effect but we wouldn't have noticed this
if you didn't mention that you were wearing a
baseball cap you're like here's
where I'm at she sits down and she goes
I said oh I have the same hat but it
says New York like I had a stupid opening line
and then she goes I have to tell you why I'm wearing
the hat and you had terror
in your eyes and I'm like oh my god
I literally was like she's gonna take the hat off
and she's gonna be bald
would you be weirded out if I took the hat off
and my hair here was connected to the hat
and you guys
and so I take the hat off but the hair was part of the hat
and you're just like what
and I'm like I have to complain
I've never had hair it's always been attached to a hat and you guys are like
you're thinking back like
full Kaiser so say like wait we've never
seen Fran without a hat
oh my god
my hair's connected to the hat
that's my turn
I was like the only
explanation for what she's ever she's gonna say
right now is that she's bald like if it's hair
in your eyes but then the explanation was micro blading yes it's true fran talk everyone through what is it hey so
basically in my lift over here i was like just don't bring it up nobody just don't do it just
like who cares just like don't bring it up and then i come in here and i'm like we've got a
problem gentlemen i'm literally sit down please sit down i literally I'm not gonna tell you this But here it is
I don't wanna tell you
But please sit down gentlemen
Yeah
Microblading
What is it?
Microblading is when
You tattoo your eyebrows on
Okay and so
Talk about
And why get the procedure
I was gonna say
Thank you so much
We didn't talk about this
We didn't talk about
The rationale leading into
The procedure right?
Okay well
Here
I don't put thought into
Anything I don't put thought into anything
i don't do research beforehand um i got an iud without doing any research went alone
it is years ago went alone didn't know that it was like basically uh one fourth as painful as
childbirth went alone because i hadn't done the research. Oh my god. Got an IUT and they
were like, you're probably going to be
laid up for a few days. I was like, dope.
I have a show tonight that I will do.
They gave me like Vicodin
and I was like, okay, I'll trust you.
But that
is just like, that's just to say
I don't research anything.
I don't put the time into it. I'm just like, life just to say i don't research anything i don't put the time into it i'm just
like life would find a way i'm like it will all work out just like go ahead and do it what's the
worst thing that can happen i'll power through yeah exactly well microblading turns out was uh
done by a doctor who had like microscope glasses on.
And I was like, sorry, what's happening here?
And first of all, I just want thicker brows.
I can use a pen for this.
Please.
I have been for years.
The rationale was I'm bored and was like, what can I do that will like distract me?
And cost money.
Yeah, it was like, i basically have no eyebrows and all it took was
two girlfriends being like oh you should get microblading and i was like okay and then i
heard it like another time and i was like yeah that's happening and and i'll take this two times
i truly two separate occasions in the last week someone's's like, oh, just do microblading. I was like, and it's done. It came in. It was fate.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So basically, they thread dye into your eyebrows.
And what I found out after the procedure, your eyebrows completely just like absolutely
poor blood.
I'm not able to-
Bleeding into your own eyes.
Yeah.
Good. like i'm not able to look into your own eyes yeah good i'm not able to see what's happening
because there's no mirror but i do see um her gloves are getting covered in blood and i'm like
uh-huh yeah sorry what else is happening also also i had to numb i didn't numb my eyebrows which is
like what i what's happening like why did i do this oh my god but so your eyebrows like look super
super dark and also scab and also you basically look bad for a week oh but here's the thing i i
think you look good no no i i said this outside and and it's perfect analogy. It's like I'm wearing pajamas, but also heels.
It's like one thing.
Yeah, fine.
It's like one thing where I'm like trying.
But then like if you're not trying, like the rest of the way.
I remember one time I like saw a picture of who's the person in Elizabeth Banks.
I saw a picture of Elizabeth Banks with like almost white blonde hair.
And I said, should I do white blonde hair?
And she's like, no, you'll have to wear makeup every day.
And I'm like, oh, you're right. Oh my god, yeah.
How insightful. I can't. Sudie.
Because I'm not doing that. I'm not
wearing makeup every day. I won't do it.
But now that I have
I mean truly two
bloody caterpillars that are now
living on my floor.
Weren't you blonde? I was blonde.
You were, yeah. But not like white blonde.
It was like,
yeah, I was blonde.
Because all of a sudden
when you said that,
I pictured you with white blonde hair
and I was like,
no, I feel like I remember that.
But then I was like,
no, because then
you would have to put on so much makeup.
And I did.
When I was blonde,
I definitely had to wear more makeup.
But then it was like,
I started SNL.
Truly just the blonde all,
I think fell out in
one day and um because of just sheer panic yeah yeah it actually turned white i have no hair now
no job no hair that's me all my blonde hair fell out and it was just like yeah i'm not wearing
makeup and i don't have blonde hair anymore but it is very funny because people will like not know my name
who I've like spent
thousands of hours with because my hair is a different color
like if I haven't seen
I lived in LA I would say like
under two years like a year and a half maybe
before moving back to New York
and people friends I made in that time
will be like hey I'm like it's Fran
and you just
it's like absolutely no ego
when you're like,
my name is Fran.
We actually do know each other
very, very well.
It's just, yeah,
different hair color.
It's just so funny
when people are like,
hey, Andy.
Yeah, uh-huh.
Just me, Fran,
many hours,
many hours spent together.
But did you like having,
this is your natural hair color now.
Yeah, yeah. Did you like having a blonde this is your natural hair color now. Yeah.
Did you like having a blonde hair?
Yeah, it kind of made me feel like,
lighter?
Different.
I dyed it right before I moved to LA
and it made me feel,
yeah,
like I would say dumber
and also got more attention.
Yeah.
Really?
Doesn't that suck?
It could have been
completely psychosomatic,
but I got way more attention.
Sure.
I bet it's not psychosomatic.
I guarantee that guys are just that dumb.
Like, oh, blonde.
It's true.
I talk to blonde.
Well, you know what's so funny is at bars or like at a party,
it would be like a different type of attention
where a dude would be like, can I grab you a drink?
Instead of like, I mean, when you're like a brunette i mean
now nobody hits on me but like back then when i was a brunette it would be like you know what i
mean like uh you watch killing eve but but then i was blonde it was like when i was blonde it was
just like no effort absolutely like yeah sure i'll take a drink. Yeah. Dang. Unreal.
Totally different attention.
Yes.
Ooh, ooh, ooh.
Eight to ten hours.
You know, I always look forward to getting my eight to ten hours
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Eight to ten hours of exercise.
No, I wish.
I wish I was a machine like that. No, I'm. I wish I was a machine like that.
No, I'm talking about sleep.
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I felt different when I was born.
Yeah, you felt like guys were approaching you?
Not that guys were approaching me,
but the people would approach me in a more like,
they were more compelled to speak to me.
They were like, hi, wow, I love your hair.
And like, you know, it would just be like a confidence boost.
The only time I ever dyed my hair was,
I dyed my hair jet black in college to do like a part.
I honestly don't think it looked good on you. I thought it looked so good, but it changed. I dyed my hair jet black in college to do a part.
I honestly don't think it looked good on you.
I thought it looked so good,
but it changed.
I looked in the mirror,
and Sudi was like,
it's bad.
You look bad.
And I sometimes mention wanting to do it again,
and she's like,
don't, because remember,
it was bad.
Sudi will always give you the tea.
What was the... It was called Marat Saad.
It was a performance of the assassination
of Jean Paul Marat by the Marquis de Saad.
And it was like a punk rock musical version
that Liz Suedos was doing at NYU.
And it was just like crazy.
And I was playing the Marquis de Saad.
So naturally, because it...
That's a big booking.
Real big booking.
She booked.
And it was controversial
because I was a dramatic writing student doing it as a drama main stage
it's very high school musical
very
controversial
and I got a lot of shade
from the musical theater kids
who wanted the role
wow
but I had a relationship
with the director
Liz Suedos
and so I got the part
thank you Liz
rest in peace Liz
but I thought
I'm playing an evil character
we must dye my hair black
right
of course that means mean so I went and dyed my hair black. Right, of course, that means mean.
So I went and dyed my hair black,
and I had just seen the movie Black Swan.
Oh, good.
And I had a bad interaction with a voice teacher.
I did the scene in Black Swan
where she menacingly marches to Lincoln Center to go dance.
I swear to God, I had black hair.
I became an evil person.
I was just storming in, and I walked in,, I had black hair. I became an evil person. I was just like storming in.
And I walked in and I told everyone,
I just had a fight with my voice teacher.
And my hair is black.
This will be the performance of my life.
And I went and I gave like a fine performance
because I didn't know how to sing or do anything.
But having black hair changed me chemically.
And so now whenever I'm like,
I kind of do want to dye my hair and do something fun but i can't do black hair because it literally changes me inside like it makes me
mean well it's like i want to be blind because i want to be fun but i already feel fun microblading
has changed me now i'm a shell of a person i don't want to do anything went to a party last
night absolutely the entire time which
just like could only think about it like you're like oh what are you doing this summer I'm like
well eyebrows um for one thing eyebrows for one thing I'm the same way I'm the same way as you
like when you came in and couldn't help it that's how I was I was telling you guys like a year and
a half two years ago I had like a herpes scare where I really thought I had herpes and I've
since found out I do not although it is fine if you do i love you and support um but everyone
knows every everyone knew that i thought i had herpes everyone like extended friends of mine i
was like they're like i was like how are you and like they're really good how things are going on
good how are you it's like probably have herpes yeah it's just sometimes you gotta wear your heart
on your sleeve yeah and also you want to like get out in front of it.
Yeah, I know.
It's like the worst thing in the entire world is for me to find out that people are talking about my eyebrows behind my back.
So I'm like do it in front of my face.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You want to be in on the joke.
I think it's like it's like a thing of like never having feeling cool and like, you know, like that kind of deal where it's like you have to just get out of it.
You got to be on top of the joke.
And I also like, you know, I was never cool, which is why I think I was a bully.
But I'm like, I also get bullied because I'm a bully.
And also had many siblings and like just was bullied and became a big bad bully.
And so I'm like, well, you can't bully me.
You tell me.
What are we talking about?
Do you identify as a bully now?
Yes.
Really? That's why you
been suiting it along i you yeah absolutely like sometimes no truly i will just go in on someone
yeah only friends yes right right right right right like it hurts to be close to me because
only friends rip them to shreds and then truly sometimes it will just be
like dude you're like mean yeah yeah no i mean look when you when you get in especially when
you get with someone else that's like that oh it's like oh baby but then you have to be able
to take it like no you must i feel you can probably take it i mean i actually think i can't
i'm not one of those people where it's like then I get insulted and all of a
sudden I'm like oh no you broke the rule no no I'm getting insulted all the fucking time and I'm like
yeah duh I put a target on my back because I'm throwing darts all the time yeah yeah it doesn't
matter yeah and also like I truly think you can't say something about me that I haven't already
thought about myself yeah and if it's like anything you think about me it's already i've already heard it or like i've already thought
it i mean i bully people but it would never be in a cruel way yeah no it's always gotta be fun
sometimes when i'm like dipping into that water with like i'm you know i've gotten to a point
with a friend where it's like and now i'm just ripping their ass to shreds and
then i like see their face fall and i need to be like i'm only doing it because i love you yeah
wait okay but what okay so just to go back to the thing of like you can take it like you have to be
able to take it does it matter who it's coming from like let's say it was Sudi or like a friend close collaborator whatever
if Sudi were to say something like
gut like a gut punch
to you like it wouldn't be
it wouldn't be a gut punch she talked about
this on her episode because we just had an episode with
her and she said that now it's like at the point with you
guys were like funny you said something well like
you can just be like no it's not funny right it's like
we move on it's not that's how she and I always
were too when we ran hammer well. Well, I gotta say,
time is not on your side at SNL.
Right, right, right.
And so you don't really have time
to be like,
maybe that could work.
Let's think about it.
It's like, dude, TikTok bitch.
We gotta turn this in.
Yeah, we gotta go.
Like, we literally need to do things
in a time frame where it's like,
I don't have time
to think about this.
There's no room for humanity.
No.
And so now there's
just a shorthand
where it's like, no.
And there will be times
where like,
we will not be,
have the same opinion.
Right.
And sometimes it's like
one person's got to give.
And I do think
that there's like
a 50-50 there
where it's like,
sometimes she gives,
sometimes I give.
Because it's like,
if we're absolutely not on the same page and it's like dude you can push it and then you know it's like give
it a minute and then one person has to be like we have to move on yep we have to move forward because
we don't have time to be doing this yeah but like I mean Sudi would never oh one time this is not
mean because this but this is a full example yeah i came into work
and sudi was like you need to get natural light in your bathroom where you do your makeup
oh my god that is me but it was true it was true it's helpful and it was true she's one of the few
people who will do that she has it was true i like like went to the bathroom and it was like the bronzer
looked crazy yeah and it was like a monday pitch day where like you're going to be with every single
one of your co-workers speaking in front of them and i looked like and she was right i didn't have
natural light in my bathroom i mean she didn't even know but she was like you got to get natural
light where you're doing your makeup i was like oh yeah but that doesn't hurt my feelings no it
doesn't it's a good note.
Like she told me one day,
she looks at me and she goes,
I have to tell you something.
The difference when you don't have facial hair
and when you do is crazy.
You don't look good with facial hair,
don't have it.
And I was like, okay.
And now I'm always shaved
and sometimes I'll go hang out with her
and I'll be like, I have to shave.
Because I'm scared of her.
I'm scared of my wife here's the thing she's never like really like read me for filth like like hygiene appearance wise
and maybe that just means that that's not where our friendships that oh I mean that is the thing
it's like if I haven't bullied you it probably means that I don't care.
We're just not close enough.
Right.
And also like,
I also have scary friends that I wouldn't bully because,
um,
I think that when I would open that door,
it would come back to me in a way where I like,
Ooh,
no,
no, no,
no,
no.
And also maybe is there someone out there who like you could become close
with who's like better at that than you.
It's like,
if you want,
Oh,
you want to cut people down? Here we go go but i bully people about like insane shit that
i know just gets under their skin like yeah i went to disneyland a couple days ago oh my god we almost
went we're supposed to go on sunday it's incredible i mean truly you're never gonna have a bad time
there no but at the end of the day we'd been together like 10 12 hours and at the end of the day um i was with
kyle mooney and he's like all right i gotta go grab my backpack from the lockers and i was like
oh but what and he's like my backpack's in the lockers and i never dropped it i mean for two
days i've been like and you're a guy who puts his backpack in the locker like it's not an insult but
i know it's bothering him i i renting a locker at Disneyland because he was coming from San Diego and then coming straight to LA.
So he had a backpack of like, you know, like four nights worth of clothes that he locked in a locker at Disneyland.
But kept it a secret until last minute.
And I was like, that's psycho.
You're a psycho.
I don't know him, but I was on the same flight as him i sat six rows
behind him and at the end of the flight all he had checked in the above carriage was a skateboard
no and i well i thought it was so funny i was like he has no bags he only has a skateboard
bitch i live see i would definitely go in on that but then last night i show up to the party
and i was wearing this hat and he's like looks like the sandlot's here i was like oh man i love it bullies bullies bullies
if only you knew that that was attached to there right then it'd be a whole other level
the thing about some people though is like sometimes i have a hard time like reading
sudi especially now that the bitch has money and she buys like good clothes and like wears good shoes
and like you know
look snatched I'm
always like damn
bitch like now you
get like the better
job than me and
more money and you
look better fuck
you but you can't
resent her for that
no I just because
now she's using her
position but I do
feel I will get to
a point a point
where I can be like
hmm I've and
then now and like
for maybe a six
month period I'll be like
you're also I mean like you're presenting
different genders like it doesn't you're not competing
against each other no I'm just kidding I'm just
saying I would love to be able to be a bully again to her
do you feel
oh you can still believe me people
definitely still bully
it's like I think more
fun to be like oh you
think you're somebody now
more fun for people to like more fun to be like oh you think you're somebody now like it's more fun
for people to like
try
you know be like
snatch your
from the face
to latch on to
yeah
here's a question
do you feel like
do you ever get
comfortable working
at SNL
or is it always
a panic
oh god
um
do I get comfortable
working at SNL
like do you feel
like you walk in
the you
cause you ever
walk in the building and are like,
yeah, this is work, or is it always just a little bit like,
okay, it's Saturday Night Live?
Well, I will say that the work schedule is, on average,
let's just say you work three weeks in a row and then get two weeks off.
Then you work three weeks in a row and get two weeks off.
Give or take.
Sometimes you only get one week off.
Sometimes you only work two weeks in a
row whatever sometimes you work four weeks in a row and so the work schedule is such that like
by the end of a run like in week three of three out of three i'm so tired yeah but also just like
i have spent now at the end of three weeks say i i spent 120 hours there a week at the end of three weeks i've
been there more it's the only thing i've been doing thinking about whatever so it's not like
okay i'm comfortable now it's more just like this is what needs to be happening let's go yeah but
then you get a hiatus very regularly that's like it's incredible you get these like hiatuses where you just like sleep
and watch tv but then day one when you go back it's like always reset and it's i always feel
like crazy i always feel like sick to my stomach the the day because you're resetting and it's like
yeah i haven't been here for however many days, but now I'm starting over.
And really, every week can, like,
it doesn't matter what you did the week before
because there's another week to do work.
And so it's like a reset every week.
But if you've been on hiatus and then you come back,
it's always just like, okay, and now I'm in the mindset.
And, you know, there's 21 episodes a
year and so you get like seven hiatuses so that's like seven times cycles or like i don't even know
how many but you're just like completely resetting every time you go back and yeah that is the hardest
day and also the week begins with pitch and pitch is really nerve wracking.
Yeah, because you get like a couple seconds
to be able to impress somebody and everybody.
And like it is a very strange room
where like sometimes things work
where you're like, I can't believe that worked
and sometimes things bomb.com
and it's like you can't figure out why
and I've worked there three years and it's like there's not a perfect formula I mean and we're
just talking about a Monday pitch but like there's no perfect formula and that's the way the week
begins where you like are with all your co-workers the host is there all the producers obviously
Lauren and it's like okay
every week starts with like
I hope I say something
that makes people laugh
that sets the tone
for the rest of the week
it's
so
wild
that is never
I'm never comfortable
at a pitch
God the first time
you ever did that
had to feel fucking insane
well actually
that is
the craziest thing
is when I and I think a lot of people feel this way. But when I started at SNL, I was my most confident. Really? Because I had just gotten hired at SNL. Right, right, right, right, right. And like, you know, it happened. And like, you walk in and it's like, oh my God, I'm here.
But you see that a lot.
When people are new, they're like the beginning of the year,
everybody's the most confident because they don't know.
And then it was like the more I knew, the more like,
it just becomes more intimidating the more you know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow. So does the atmosphere like wildly change based on the host?
Or is that kind of like?
Not really.
Yeah, not really.
I mean, only if the host is a super extreme in bad or good.
Yeah, right, right, right.
Or this year there were some hosts that were friends of mine.
And so that was kind of a wild feeling.
I mean, that really changed me.
Donald.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like an old friend.
That's been so cool.
It was really cool,
but, you know,
he's someone I hung out with
every day for years
and then not at all.
Right, right.
And, you know,
every time I see him,
it's great
and, you know,
it's totally natural
to be hanging out.
But then it was like,
okay, he's coming to host.
He is a legit superstar.
Like seriously.
And then that was such an insane week for him too,
because that was when This is America was like exploding.
And now.
This is America got released during the show.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I remember I went down and got to watch that performance
on the floor and I was like, this feels different.
You know what I mean? Like there was something going floor. And I was like, this feels different.
You know what I mean? Like there was something going on and it's just so crazy to think about him
and his trajectory because he was someone where,
when I was in dramatic writing and hammer cats,
he was like my sort of like an idol because it was like,
he was like ahead of me and like did both of those things and like wrote on
30 rock.
And it's like so crazy to think about why you um sort of like looked up to him then and then
why millions of people around the world look up to him now but it is truly wild for me because like
i you just don't really have a sense of how famous somebody is right especially if it's just like
well it's just donald but then it's like not really
I mean
it's also Childish Gambino
yeah
right
it's
but it was very fun
having him host
that was
that was great
but like
if a host is
incredible
or awful
yeah
those are
but really that happens
so infrequently
like Will Ferrell
was an incredible host
and I think
everybody just felt like
happy that week
if that makes any sense
yeah
of course it does
he was like so personable
you feel safe
he was so nice
yeah
but the cast
has so much interaction
with the host
that I think that
that affects
their week
more because
you know
like
they have to legit
work with them
in the scenes
they're with them
yeah yeah but yeah so an
extreme host i think can change the temperature but it doesn't really happen a lot i mean for
the most part like a host is a very very famous person that you won't really talk to a lot right
yeah yeah yeah as simple as that so was it always like a thing for you like was was that like where
you wanted to be snl or were you like everyone where it's like well i guess that's what that's what it's all leading up to is snl i'm
telling you i have like no brain cells and don't really think about anything yeah and i'm just like
everything will work out and it happened well i think about it now and i'm like I can't believe how lucky I am or how lucky I got because like I didn't
I mean obviously I was at UCB for years I saw everyone around me yeah yeah get hired and get
work it never really bothered me it was I was never like damn like yeah you know it i was never like drinking poison and expecting it to kill my enemies
yeah i was never like really because i think i'm like stupid i'm like not thinking about that i'm
like good she got the movie like i'm not like i'm not like how can i strategize to also get work
right i'm like oh good for you i've never anyway but yeah yeah i relate to that so
yeah go on sorry it's just i'm never i really am just not strategizing because you don't expect
like it's like that thing of like well i don't expect it to happen for me so i wouldn't dare
be jealous or like covetous of a position someone else has because it's like i'll just keep doing
my thing i'm already surprised it's working i truly think that for me it's like you know i don't have room in my brain to be like
thinking beyond just like and tonight i'll do show and yeah tomorrow i'll do podcast yeah yeah i
don't i don't but then you know i was working at funny or die and i was, it was the summer. And I was like, you know what? I think I'd like to submit to SNL.
Yeah.
And I had, because I had been working at Funnier Diet,
just had sketches.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it just was like, here we go.
There's a packet already there.
Yeah.
I actually had applied a few years earlier
and didn't get hired.
And then didn't apply for a few years and then i was like
i already have the sketches yeah so why not right and so i and then i applied and that was the year
and that was the year that whenever that packet comes around every year i'm always freaked out
because i'm always like i know i can write sketches but it's like because i'm supposed
to do it for this show and like there's a deadline on it. It's like all of a sudden I'm like, my brain breaks.
I honestly think that it just helped so much
that I was just like looking at a backlog
of things I already had.
I think sitting down and being like,
I have one day to think of commercial parody,
like which is how the show actually works.
Right, right, right.
But I think when you're thinking about writing a packet,
it's just like, I don't know.
If you're making a case for yourself to these people
who don't know you,
then just put your best stuff in there.
Yeah.
I think it's a really,
submitting a writing packet,
I just, it does not work in people's favors.
I mean, that's why just having a writing sample,
like a pilot you're proud of,
I think is probably more helpful than like,
okay, and we need one topical joke,
one joke about Brett Favre. Yeah. Brett Favre. Also, what I think is probably more helpful than like okay and we need one topical joke one joke about Brett
Favre yeah
also what I think happens is when you get
the late night packets and maybe this is too
inside based on but you look at the host and they'll
you try to write in their voice and that sucks
yeah it's really hard it's so hard
because it's like a lot of times you watch these
shows and no shade but like there aren't a lot
of jokes in the monologue it's just the host being
there whatever version of their charm or the voice is like not specific but um packets are so hard
they're really hard and also like yeah i mean i don't know how to be good at it is it just like
i don't know whether or not it's better to like write a seamless packet that's in the voice
regardless of whether or not you like it or to give them yourself i think it's probably a mixture
of both and then it's funny
to see who gets hired
on these shows
and some of these people
have such specific voices.
Like for example,
I'll mention Julio Torres.
He has such a specific voice
and you would never think
that he would ever compromise that.
And on the show,
he has not compromised that.
And you think,
so his packet
couldn't have been
a Saturday Night Live packet.
It had to be a Julio packet
because that's what makes him so iconically
special well
I don't want to I
don't have facts but
I think Julio
didn't submit a packet because he was
hired at the end of
he was hired as a guest writer
at the end of me and
Sudi's first season I
think based off an audition you know what you're
right you're right you're right you're right and so I mean this
is like talking about a very specific
person who has like such an incredible
and unique and hysterical
voice yeah but yeah I don't
think that's the thing is also I shouldn't even
think too hard about like what works for everyone because
literally something different is going to work for everybody
right yeah and that's the
biz that's the biz Fran we're going to ask you
what we ask all of our guests, which is
what is the culture that made
you say, culture is for me?
I'm doing a Fran Gillespie voice.
It was like the pop culture where
something in your life that was like
this happened and you experienced this
like a movie or a television show or
like a musical artist
or something where you were like, oh, I now i know who i am oh i guess i have an answer but it's lame no i love it
titanic oh my god titanic was huge for me too titanic was was the thing that made me like that
opened the door to all of show business yeah titanic okay so i wasn't really allowed to watch tv growing up i could watch one show a week
and it was the simpsons and good one but i did go to movies like would go to movies a lot but um
i also wasn't allowed to have magazines that had the word sex on the cover
or sexy right like i wasn't allowed to have like a, a, like, you know, YM or Seventeen.
Yep, all those.
The covers would be, like, ten ways to blow him to smithereens.
You know what I mean?
And it's, like, Chad Michael Murray shirtless and it's, like, tomato red nipples.
And it's just, like, this is erotic.
Nuts.
It's truly, like, they were out of control.
People had Sean William Scott, like, fully fucking naked. Iconic. Iconic cover. Yeah. Amazing cover. it's truly like they were out of control and i was people had sean williams scott like fully
fucking naked iconic i got a cover yeah yeah but the thing was it was like it made sense i wasn't
allowed to get those magazines but i was like nine you know or like eight or nine or whatever
and i wanted these magazines because i became so obsessed with Leonardo DiCaprio. Absolutely. That I just wanted every single magazine that even there would be like an insert.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so I became really, really obsessed with those like teen magazines and I would babysit.
Of course, I was like could be in charge of an infant, but like couldn't look at the word sex.
Yeah.
But I was like babysitting all the time and i would use my babysitting money to go to the corner store and
buy all these magazines and just hide them under my bed and i would read i would every single one
and they came out well teen people came out every week oh no a lot of them were monthly yeah they
were they said i would get like 10 a month and then cut out the photos and make photo albums.
Yep, yep, yep.
But in like a nice photo album.
Yeah.
He was so iconically hot.
Like, oh my God.
I had a Titanic.
I had two Titanic posters that I absolutely would kiss.
And I was so obsessed with him.
I bought the VHS.
It was a double.
The double, yeah.
Because, you know what I mean
wait did it end did the first
did the first tape end after the
car fucking scene was it like
right after I think it was no no no
I remember because they do
that late in the movie the first tape ends no
I think the fucking is in the first
tape yeah the fucking is definitely in the first tape
and then the first tape I believe
and culturists listeners, if you can
contest this, let me know. I believe
it's after the glass with the water
starts shaking. That's the moment that it
cuts off. After
the fucking, after the iceberg
hits. Sound of Music was a
double VHS and I would
stop after the first one because the second one was
all about Nazis. So I would just always
stop after
and I was like and the movie's over. Wonderful. after the first one because the second one was all about Nazis. So I would just always stop after Diane Ely
is an oligot
that let me leave.
And I was like,
and the movie's over.
Wonderful.
Oh my God,
Julie Andrews is here.
Julie, it's Julie.
I actually got her voice back.
I was like,
the movie ended.
Good.
It ends on a puppet show.
Did experiencing
Titanic,
the movie,
also cause you
to want to know
everything about
the actual ship itself?
Well, the Oscars, yeah, but. Not actual ship itself well the oscars yeah but
not the ship itself i was i knew everything i bought books about leonardo di caprio like books
that were clearly made in like three or four hours where it's like and he's popular now and
then it was just like oh my god yes those books but then i would watch like basketball diaries
which i was like didn't like as a movie, but I was like, and he's here.
Good.
Like I was so obsessed with Leonardo DiCaprio.
And then it just, that was probably, God,
I would have been like sixth grade, maybe fifth grade.
Maybe fifth grade.
And that just launched me.
And I was completely fucking boy crazy.
Wow.
Crazy.
In general?
Oh, no.
Just for Leo.
Celeb.
Celeb boy crazy crazy in sync it was like 98 degrees backstreet boys i truly became the most extra person it was like constantly i just found this
locket that i had i was like a year ago um but i've had found this locket i was like oh i wonder whose pictures i put inside oh pop it is leonardo caprio and usher oh so we've got like good but so i like cut their
little faces out put them in this locket and i was like wearing usher and leo every day just on
your heart yes it was like a locket i got for like my first communion or whatever and i i couldn't i was so fucking boy crazy and celebrity
culture crazy but what's insane is i didn't even watch tv i wasn't allowed to yeah so i'm like
worshiping matthew fox from party of five holy shit no clue what the show's about yeah no idea
and i'm in for him yeah i remember the first time i saw that tearing on my heart music video with
justin timberlake on that bed in the white wife
the white like oh my god I almost called it a wife beater
that's where like my Long Island-ness comes out
what would you call that? Tank?
let's do that
and he just like was like so
sexualized and he had to be what 16
17 years old
that changed like something chemically
and had like ramen noodle hair
but it didn't matter.
He was the hottest person I'd ever seen in my life.
I know.
And like then coming into school
and all the girls were talking about him
and I had to be like,
I hate Justin Timberlake.
I hate him because my body was just fighting with itself.
It's like, no, you have to kill this.
It was just so, oh my God.
But if I had been allowed to be,
I would have been boy crazy too. I mean, I was just so, oh my God. But if I had been allowed to be, I would have been boy crazy too.
I mean, I was just pouring over
these like pop culture magazines
and like even like Z-Bop.
Like I was going so crazy.
And I think that that is when,
and now I'm like so obsessed with like reading Us Weekly
just cover to cover. And I don't know why, I don't care. Well, because now it's just like so obsessed with like reading Us Weekly just cover to cover and I don't know why I don't
care well because now it's just like so stupid I I think it's so funny like it's fun the what
they think are jokes in Fashion Police like oh my god you like growing up like I thought it was so
funny we get Us Weekly and like as this fucking nine-year-old I'd be like I have first thing I
would turn to was Fashion Police. Yeah, absolutely.
I was like,
what did they say this week?
Because it was comedy.
Like I remember there was,
but it wasn't though.
But it wasn't,
but there was,
I literally,
I could,
it's just kind of like,
and this coat's yellow.
It's bitchiness.
It's just like,
I don't like this
and here's a pithy take on it.
But I remember one time like,
they're all rude.
It was probably like,
some insane celebrity
like Maria Conchita Alonso
like was in like a fucking
fluffy thing
and I'll never forget
how hard I let
I couldn't get over it
for two days.
I was telling my mom about it
until she had to tell me
to shut the fuck up.
The caption was
how many Muppets
do you think died
to make this outfit?
And I thought that was
the funniest thing
in the world.
I remember it to this day.
It's barely a joke.
It's barely. It's the word Muppets and the image of them dying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's dark.
You know, I was obsessed with Traumarama.
That was something in 17 where it was like,
I had my period all over my mouth.
And then it was like,
and then it was like.
That's like very Dresen.
That's a Dresen joke.
That's a Dresen joke.
That's an Anna Dresen tweet. I had my period all over like very Dresden. That's a Dresden joke.
That's an Anna Dresden tweet.
I have my period all over my mouth.
500 likes.
The Traumarama truly was just like on my second date with my uncle,
all of a sudden,
like,
wait,
where was this from Traumarama?
17.
Wait,
the title of this episode
is going to be Traumarama.
But they were all bad.
And like every third one was just like period shame.
It was like.
I got my period all over my second statement.
It's true.
It's just they're all so stupid.
But I like I ate it the fuck up.
And I still like I just can't every time I'm in an
airport I'm getting like Us Weekly you know I had a subscription Us Weekly and then I was like
this cannot go on wait how long ago how long ago for years yeah okay I mean I I think I cut it off
maybe like when I was like going back and forth between LA and New York too much and was like missing too many.
No, I think I probably cut it off like a year ago.
But here's the thing.
A year subscription is like they pay you.
Right.
Like it's nothing.
It's no money.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But then I will shove like an $8 us weekly.
I'm like, can I get two?
Just one to sit on.
But then if you'd like have a subscription to a magazine it's truly
like a dollar a year yeah yeah yeah and i'm like yeah i can't have a subscription because i know
like i haven't read a book in like six or seven years but i could like tell you that like lincoln
from this season of the bachelorette has a history of assault you know what i mean you read that on
the page you read it on the fucking page.
Wait, but true or false?
Like Us Weekly actually used to be like a people level.
Like you could go to it for real news
and now it's fully a tabloid.
Well, People's fully a tabloid.
People is?
People's a full tabloid
except you're going to get a serial killer
like every other issue.
Yeah, right, right, right.
It's like she didn't know her daughter was a dog.
It's like People has has a human interest story,
and that makes it journalism?
Well, that's the thing.
It's like this week they released
a Kate Spade, Anthony Bergean thing,
and it's sad, but it looks like fucking they got engaged.
You know what I'm saying?
That is the editorial treatment.
It's like, oh, look at that.
All about the wedding.
Literally, I'm insane. The cover of Us oh, look at that. All about the wedding. Like literally insane.
The cover of Us Weekly the other day,
we were in the supermarket.
Dave and I were getting groceries at the other Airbnb
and we were like paying for it.
And I look over at the like rack of magazines
and it's like Us Weekly was saying like,
Jen and Brad texting.
And it's like, what?
How would you know?
And also like, this is like not what I remember.
You know what?
It's just crazy.
Well, the worst one is In Touch
but it's the cheapest
oh
but then how do you feel
as a reader
about In Touch
In Touch
has
is
absolutely
like the most rumors
it's like
is Khloe Kardashian dead
like
it has
and it has evil stuff too
like
it's like
not scared to speculate
and has been sued so many times like it's like not scared to speculate and has been sued
so many times
because it's just like
and truly
it's really nasty shit
yeah
it's like
Sharon Stone
on heroin
and you're like
just
I like
get it because
sometimes I've read
all the other ones
and it's also $3
like Us Weekly
it will push like $6
yeah
but InTouch is $2.99 oh my god i'm
sorry i just i i haven't katherine zeta jones insane around town like yeah it's in touch is
yeah in is mean and on the cover life-ruining mean they'll have mean photos like us weekly
will never do that in touch will put put like a terror read on the beach.
It's like, leave alone.
Like, InTouch will do.
A terror read on the beach.
I haven't had like the giggles like this in so long.
Fran just has the knack for just pulling out these random specifics.
Which one is getting you the most right now, bitch?
She didn't know her daughter was a dog
is good for me
this is like a new form of joke this is a new form of comedy like like that could be an improv game trauma or just like making up cover stories
for these rags it's but even though like truly every section is like its own beat you know what
i mean like they have well us weekly has that page where it's like uh quote and quotables yeah
but it's just like can you believe ryan seacrest said this? And it's like, a picture of Ryan Seacrest. And then it's like, two days a week, I'll eat goldfish.
And you're like, okay.
And it's just like the wildest joke.
No, I can't believe you said that.
Fuck.
Where did you get it from?
When did you say this?
Who else has reported that he said this?
The poor goldfish.
And it's just like pictures of people with the quotes.
I mean, yeah.
I've now spent
It's in your bones.
Thousands and thousands of dollars.
And Leo is to blame.
How did loving Leo that much inform your opinion of Kate
Winslet? Oh, you know, respect.
Respect. I never was
jealous and I'm glad they're still friends but i
gotta say uh what you doing in the wonder wheel movie yeah what you doing in the wonder what you
what you doing like not kind of like fully she also worked with roman polanski yeah on carnage
i got a carnage movie adaptation that's two i that wonder wheel movie you gotta look at that cast and be like
you knew already
you knew
who else is
Justin Timberlake
Timberlake
who honestly come on
you're adding on
you're putting
fans to the fire there
but for him it's like
okay he doesn't do
a ton of movies
yeah right
for her it's like
you knew
you have options
also
she has such
an incredible resume
and it's like yeah exactly you have options like Give me a break. Also, she has such an incredible resume.
And it's like, yeah, exactly.
You have options.
Like, you can't think this is a good idea.
No, no.
And then there was like an actress roundtable or whatever where she was like talking about Wonder Wheel.
And she like brought up Woody Allen or whatever. And it like pans the room.
Yeah, everyone's the best.
And to just like, you know, like a marion couture just like face
dropped just like dude yeah yeah and you're still going on about it yeah i know i know what you're
talking about so i will say this if you are an actor that has worked with one of those directors
here's what you don't say but i had a great experience right that is not it doesn't matter
it's not the point right like we don't want to
hear about how great your experience was right you because your individual experience unfortunately
doesn't literally matter and like i don't know it's just crazy i do think but her as an actress
i love you ever seen little children oh yeah i mean she's one of them one of the best and i do
like that her and leo are friends i mean now now I don't have a Leonardo DiCaprio thing.
Also, like, you know, that was for that time.
And it was the gate opener to, like, me being absolutely just obsessed with celebrity culture.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I don't, like, I will read those magazines.
But now the person I would be most excited to meet would be like jwoww maybe honestly
oh my god really i mean like i also think just as part of my job like i can't feel like too
attached or you can't be like wow we're totally different levels of human yeah no you have to
be able to talk to them and i don don't really care. I do like reading
all the gossipy stuff
but like
I think the person
that would get me
the most excited
would be like
maybe Rachel Lindsay.
Honestly.
Are you a big
Bachelor fan?
Huge.
Were you with Rachel
the whole time
or were you disappointed
at the end?
Disappointed at the end.
Same.
Well now
Peter Krause.
Peter love him.
Why wasn't he The Bachelor?
Yeah, I think he should have been The Bachelor.
Because I actually know.
Do you think he has a history?
No, I think he was actually supposed to be The Bachelor
and they were going to announce it.
And the thing that I heard is he got so upset and nervous
that he had to go throw up.
And it was like a thing of the next day
he was going to be on Good Morning America
and that he literally panicked because he was like, this doesn't work for me i understand that it would
be good for the show and the fans want it and i feel a lot of pressure and he got so upset
because he's a sensitive guy and i mean i think that's why everyone loved him and why wait we
thought it made the most sense because they had such chemistry because he's just someone who's a
good dude he's great and i mean remember her eyelashes still on the floor oh that was that scene was so hard to watch
that's a better
Peter Krause rumor
than the one I made up
which is that
maybe he has a criminal history
oh yeah
I don't think it's something like that
like a DUI or something
I don't think it's something like that
I think it's just legit
he
why wouldn't you want him
to be the bachelor
and then like
the showrunner
like Mike Fleiss
was like tweeting out like
uh why would you want to have Peter as the Bachelor
when he doesn't want...
He's messy on Twitter.
Mike Fleiss.
The showrunner of The Bachelorette and Bachelor
is like, he's a lot,
and he'll tweet out some shit.
He gets gossipy on Twitter,
and sometimes he blows his load
and is like, tomorrow, guys, it's coming,
and then shit goes wrong.
And it feels like every season of the bachelor or bachelor in paradise or
whatever,
there's this,
this insane controversy.
Like now,
like apparently like one of the guys who does really well is like liking all
that transphobic shit on Instagram.
Like,
this is what I heard.
It's like this guy,
Garrett,
who got the first impression,
who allegedly does well on the show.
Um,
he is literally like one of, one of those, like an alt-right person.
Oh, you know, I gotta say, I'm not feeling good about Becca's options.
They're like weird aggro dudes.
It's not a good year.
They all also look the same.
Do you like her?
I am happy she's the Bachelorette, but I also think that like,
it's going to be a boring season all the dudes look the same and they're like something weird is going although i do love
that the guy rolled off the bed oh that's just classic i mean he broke his face rolling off
the bed had to go beautiful yeah well he's gonna come back he's gonna come back but the thing is
like after rachel who i think was the best bachelorette until the last episode
yeah
I
I don't know
she
Becca doesn't have that
star quality
she was the
Rachel was the only one
that like drew me in
and was like
she's why I started
watching the whole franchise
yeah I'll be like
I'll watch this season
yeah
yeah
she was so great
oh god
I'm just remembering now
that one time
I was walking down the street
and I thought I saw
Rachel Lindsay
and
I it wasn't the street and I thought I saw Rachel Lindsay and it wasn't her.
Wow.
But I was walking behind her
and then...
That's her ass.
That's her ass.
And then I passed her,
stopped, turned around and said,
excuse me, are you...
Never mind.
No.
On my street.
I get it.
I get it.
Bad.
I've had this happen with every person
like
I've seen people
like Matt
walk down the street
and I'm just like
is that Matt
and it's not
it's like
I understand
just being so excited
to see someone
yeah it's true
you like manifest
and I'm Bowen's
Rachel Lindsay
and Matt is my
Rachel Lindsay
for sure
that's nice
I do kind of want to be
the gay batch you would be a gay batch that would be great I. That's nice. I do kind of want to be the gay batch.
You would be a gay batch.
Oh, that would be great.
I really want to.
I don't know if I want to be the gay batch
or I want to be like in a promo with a white background
and like holding a rose.
I don't know which I want more.
Not that this would be bad,
but if, when, not if,
when there's a gay bachelor,
do you think that contestants
will end up hooking up with one another?
They did this with Finding Prince Charming on Logo.
Okay.
But the unspoken rule was that the contestants could not fuck each other.
Well, of course that's an unspoken rule, but like, I mean.
I think it makes it more interesting that people hook up in the house.
But then the whole show is just going to be like,
I wanted to come and pull you aside and tell you that, you know,
these people like each other.
Well, what they did on Finding Prince John Moore,
which I think is a little problematic, is they cast a
fucking model as the Bachelor, and the rest
of them were kind of a little bit more...
I don't know. It was weird.
It was by design that the contestants
were not in the same
lead, quote-unquote, as the Bachelor himself.
As the guy.
Oh, that's strange.
It was weird.
Everyone's aspiring to this one strange. So it was weird. It was like, it's like everyone's aspiring
to this one person.
Because of his looks.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It just didn't,
it didn't feel good.
It's so,
there's a lot of like design flaws
in just saying gay bachelor,
but like,
I don't know.
I think there is a way to hack it
where it's like the contestants
are allowed to hook up
with each other
and that is an element.
Well, here's what I want to happen
with my narrative
on the gay bachelor.
I want to be a contestant and just people love it.
I want to be Rachel Lindsay.
And then they bring me back and everyone's like,
yes, it's his time.
He needs this.
I want to be on The Bachelorette
because I want to go on the dates.
Yeah, they're fun.
I mean, nobody would want to,
like if I was The Bachelorette,
I don't really think people would be fighting to be with me,
but they would be like, and we want to make it to Italy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to, like if I was the bachelorette, I don't really think people would be fighting to be with me, but they would be like,
and we want to make it to Italy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want to go to like Stockholm.
But wait,
there's one thing I want to say
before we do Adam Vick's 100,
which is you will like this.
So when Rachel Lindsay was filming
her season of The Bachelor with Nick,
how do you say it?
Vile or Vial?
Nick Vile.
Nick Vile,
who I think is hot.
Yeah, he is.
I like all his Instagrams and I'm like, you're like a stupid bitch.
I'm always like, I love you.
I really, I fall for it all.
He's not funny, though.
He thinks he's funny.
He's not.
It's important to say that.
He does comedy in wigs.
Okay, what?
Anyway, because wigs are comedy.
A wig got me to JFL.
That's true but anyway
this isn't a wig
that's a hat with hair that's different
Rachel
Lindsay shot
her fantasy suite
date the day after the election
and it had been like three months since
they were allowed to like use their phones or whatever
but like and so she was very tuned out of the election but obviously she like
got posted up in a bar like in like sweden or something and like was it well it was like
watching and drinking at the election what's happened she thought hillary's gonna win it's
gonna be amazing like we're gonna bring this home and then donald trump won so she proceeded to get
fucking drunk she said this on an interview and she woke up the next day and was like really
truly hungover and had to film like her fantasy suite date and like remember when she did that
with nick and everyone was like oh my god she's so comfortable and dropped in and like they're
so natural and comfortable with each other she was so hungover that she says that when they got
in the fantasy suite she fell asleep immediately they didn't talk and that's that's why he
eliminated her the next day and her energy was very like i kind of understand because she knew that literally they they spoke
not at all they did not have sex in the fantasy suite he sent her home because he's like well
i did speak to the other two in the suite and we didn't get a chance to talk because you passed out
that's so funny yeah which it worked out for her because then she got to be the bachelorette but
everyone was like that's crazy that she didn't win they had the best chemistry
etc
it's like no
she just like got tanked
from being so depressed
about the election
that's so funny
and they didn't allow them
to talk about it on air
and remember at the fantasy
I think her date that day
was like them going
and like drinking
during the day
yeah so she had like
hair of the dog baby
that's so funny
yeah but she said that
in an interview
and I thought that was
so classic there you go I need to know what that in an interview and I thought that was so classic.
There you go.
I need to know
what happens in the suites.
I mean, I need to know.
I think they ask
the hard questions.
Because this is another thing.
It's like,
like Becca,
who like,
if you look at her Instagram,
she's like a Hillary supporter.
But if she ends up
choosing someone
who's like an alt-right person.
She won't.
She can't.
She's smart.
She may have.
That's the thing.
They're not allowed to talk about it on the air air so you have to ask that question in the fantasy suite and it
might not be top of mind oh right for me if i'm dating for me i would never go on a date probably
with a republican yeah and also like you would assume that you were attracted to this person
and like they share your they share your political alignment or i would ask that question and if
you're in a situation where you're not allowed to look at any instagram you're not allowed allowed to do anything, and you are not allowed to ask that question because it's not cool for air, what the fuck?
You could end up getting on one knee or saying yes to someone who has a crazy thing about them.
But don't you think you would know there would be other red flags when you were hanging out with someone?
Like, oof, I think this guy might be trouble.
You would think I mean if there's like an aggro
anything yeah like you
know what I mean you would think you would think but
and also like um
probably top of mind when you get in the fantasy suite is
you've been hanging out with this person for months like you want to fuck
I know and then maybe like the pillow
talk afterwards it's like so um
are you super religious
but anyway
Hail Satan
Hail Satan
and you get
you get in the
as he comes
Hail Satan
you get in the fantasy suite
and then you're just like
that for three
all three of them
say Hail Satan
when they come
yeah
that would be cute
that would be historic
okay
historic
let's move on to
I Don't Think So Honey
this is our segment
in the show
where we take one minute
to rant on something
that's just getting our goat.
In culture.
In culture, in life.
Fran was on our I Don't Think So Honey live at the Echo Plex.
She drew Hilary Duff.
Yes, thank you for coming out, everyone.
And I have one.
I have an I Don't Think So Honey topic.
Because I was jarred by something recently.
When we were in LA.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
I know what this is.
Okay, I'm ready.
This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey. His time, yes. I know what this is. Okay, I'm ready. This is Matt Rogers'
I Don't Think So Honey.
His time starts now.
I Don't Think So Honey,
the name egg slut.
I literally was hungry
and then I saw egg slut
and I was like,
I can't eat now.
Because it's not,
I love eggs,
I love sluts,
but egg slut,
like the idea of being a slut
for an egg,
I don't think so honey.
No, no. Like like i don't know
like for me eggs are very specific i need them scrambled i need them like in a specific way
i don't need them like in a sexual sense right and also when eggs are like a little bit cold
like i get very weirded out by them also like i they have to i'm very specific about my eggs and
so like you know being a i don't know egg slut there's two words that can't go together and
already i have a complicated relationship with
eggs so when you put them in a sexual thing and
you want to be a slut for eggs like
I guess I would be a slut for eggs like
if I knew that I was going to enjoy them but unfortunately
I don't always have like a consistent relationship
with eggs and so you know
I do consider myself like a little bit more on the
slut side and I'm very proud of that but the
thing is like I don't know about egg slut
it made me not hungry and I know
I needed to eat so I don't think so honey
and that's one minute wow I agree
it turns me off egg slut
egg slut but it's the egg
part that gets me and also like
who named it you know what I mean
like could they be there are a lot
of things in LA that have
names that they want to be the
draw and most of them are like a run-on
sentence you know what I mean like there's like a popular bar called like don't come knocking on
mama's door yeah right right I love that though I love that you know what I mean like there's so
many like it's like a Michelin star restaurant called like pigs are home
I mean I appreciate
a stupid fucking name
our podcast is called
Las Culturistas
oh that's good
but I literally said it
I said it out loud
I pulled it out of my
asshole
and Bowen laughed
because it was so dumb
and then we were like
okay yeah this will be
the name of our dumb podcast
that now like is the
main thing we do
so
funny
I mean yeah
what's it a name
a name can take you anywhere can look like anything potentially success okay let's do Bowen Yang's I mean, yeah. What's it a name? What's it a name? A name can take you anywhere.
It can look like anything.
Potentially success.
Okay, let's do Bowen Yang's.
I don't think so, honey.
And Bowen Yang's time will start now.
I don't think so, honey.
Styrofoam cups and bitch here in Forever Dog LA.
What do I see?
A stack of styrofoam cups.
Brett Boehm, hot producer.
Brett thinks it's fine to have an unsustainable cup.
Stupid bitch.
Stupid bitch. Stupid bitch.
Forever long LA, I don't think so, honey.
There's no ventilation in this room.
There's some vent in the ceiling.
It's doing nothing.
Stupid bitch.
I cannot be in this room where the curtains are drawn,
the cups are styrofoam,
and will never disappear off the face of this earth,
will never biodegrade in a landfill, and will just outlive all of us.
I don't think so, honey.
Styrofoam cups and this Brita filter in the fridge that does not have a good pouring exit rate.
It's not intuitive.
It's not intuitive, Brett.
I demand better cups, better ventilation, better Britas, honey.
And if you cannot accommodate this, then I will be the queen diva,
best believer,
big Frida.
I cannot have the styrofoam nonsense in this place.
And that's one minute.
I have something to say about this.
Two things.
One, also, if you eat styrofoam,
your risk of cancer goes up.
Also,
Who's eating styrofoam?
I don't know.
Kids, dogs.
Dogs.
Adults who don't know better.
Your risk of cancer goes up when you're eating.
Styrofoam.
Sharon Stone. Is cancerous. Also, when you're eating. Styrofoam. Sharon Stone.
Is cancerous.
Also, when I was young,
I did a science project
which was which kind of cup
will keep soda the coldest
and Styrofoam won.
Yes, it is an insulator.
It's a great insulator.
Hold on.
HPB, what do you have to say?
Can I rebut?
Yes, rebut, rebut, rebut.
Okay, please.
Hot producer Brett's
going to come over
and tell us
what's up
I can't believe
I'm ashamed
of these cups
this is gonna be
a whole fucking
production
he's putting on
the fucking
headphones and everything
here we go
shit
what's going on
that hit a real
sore spot for me
why?
good
I usually do not
have styrofoam cups
I usually get
biodegradable cups
from the Target
that is like
three blocks
I'm not seeing them where are they? well she wasn't beautiful tonight I usually get biodegradable cups from the Target that is like three blocks.
I'm not seeing them.
Where are they?
Well, she wasn't beautiful tonight.
I was in a rush this time.
I was taking other preparations for your arrival.
I noticed that you did not mention
the gamut of pastries.
Fine, fine, fine.
What are we supposed to do?
Not eat?
Brett, thank you for the pastries.
I was just like running
with those donuts.
They were good. French bakery. I had one. It was definitely French. Well, thank you in the pastries. They were good.
I had one. It was definitely French.
Thank you in a real way.
Thank you in a real way.
Fine.
Well, then fine. Then shame on the
bodega. There's no ethical consumption in
capitalism, but don't chop there.
And thank you for the donuts.
They were delicious.
We love you, Brett.
Love you, Brett.
That was all a bit.
We love Forever Dog LA.
They did roll out the red carpet for us, honey.
Yes, bitch.
And we love it.
Okay, so now it's time for Fran Gillespie.
I don't think so, honey.
Oh, God.
I forgot that this was going to happen.
Okay, I have one now. Okay, great. Okay, this is Fran Gillespie's I Don't Think So, honey. Oh, God. I forgot that this is going to happen. Okay, I have one now. Okay, this is Fran Gillespie's
I Don't Think So, Honey, and our time starts now.
I don't think so, honey. Movies that say
based on a true story.
I don't give a fuck.
I don't care. It doesn't make it more
interesting that you and your
buddies had a little run-de-s-buzz.
Like, I don't care at all.
If you're like, but can you believe it was true?
It's like, okay, why not just like do something interesting?
You know what I mean?
Like, the only thing I care if it's based on a true story is the jinx.
And it's a documentary, so cool.
Or like The Staircase.
If it's not a documentary and then you're just like, oh, can you believe that this is based on a true story?
We're not kidding.
It's like, yeah, you're not kidding.
It's boring.
Like based on a true story, like me and my friends hung out and that's not a lie.
It's like, yeah, I really, truly don't give a shit.
I will still see it, but I can't be like compelled to be like, and it bad but it was kind of true and so that's good
anyway i don't think so honey based on a true story and that's something and you know what's
worst on that based on real events what the fuck does that mean that's the new based on a true
story based on real events like the blind side based on real events what does that mean you took
these people and like kind of fucked up their life a little bit and now there's a film oh you spent
an extra fifty50,000
buying people's life rights congrats
that's not even that the 50k is low
yeah you're oh my god that's so that's so
funny I hate it and it's also like
it's one of those things where it's like this
isn't good so what if
we say like but it's true it's
almost true right right right that doesn't
make it good that is like that the
worst seasoning you could put on
any bad thing.
Yeah, based on a true story.
Guess what?
True stories are often boring.
That's why they're not movies.
Fiction is queen, honey.
I don't want to see my own life
because it's not interesting
enough to be a movie.
If you have a film
and you have the opportunity
to get a crew together
and you're blessed
and privileged enough
to get people
that are actors and talented
get them together
and guess what?
I don't want to watch them
act out a real story.
I want to see spectacle,
honey.
I want to see a Hollywood glamor.
I want to see everyone wearing a dress.
There you go.
Amen.
Amen.
Amen.
Oh my God.
This is,
this is one of the first times,
trauma,
trauma,
trauma.
This is one of the first times I've fully cried from laughing.
I,
and thank you,
Fran,
for giving me the gift.
Well,
thank you guys for having me.
Well,
listen,
we do close every episode with a song.
Here we go.
You want to lead us, Matt?
Yes.
God bless America.
Land that I love.
Stand beside her And guide her
Have fun with it
Through the night
With a light
From above
From the mountains
If you want to hear
the rest of that
go to a football game.
Thank you.
Bye.
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