Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - “Treasures Untold” (w/ Matt + Bowen)

Episode Date: August 6, 2025

The sisters are back for another culture catch up and they have a lot to cover! They talk Broadway plays Purpose and Death Becomes Her, the use of staircases in theater, Jesus Chris Superstar, Josh Sharp's show Ta Da, the importance of adopting dogs, why you need to TURN YOUR PHONE OFF, the new Naked Gun film, horror films versus haunted houses, Conan Gray, new Demi Lovato AND old Demi Lovato, 'meep' culture, The Hunting Wives, ending the Jax Taylor discourse, ending email, the end of AJLT, and of course Happy Birthday Kyle Cooke. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Is that culture? Yes. Oh, goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. I really just watched your fingers on the countdown. And don't you do that every time?

I was really, like, intent on watching the finger countdown. Because, you know, BTS, everybody. Bowen Yang famously, every single episode counts three, two, one with his fingers. But this time I was just, like, really focused on it. Hypnotic Philips. The eye of the dog. The eye of the dog. Speaking of, we are recording this on Matt's first day back in the hallowed halls of 30 Rock at the Today Show.

I was at the Today Show today. We're recording this on Monday. and we really didn't get into it last week. We just kind of said there was a thing with dogs. But this is what's been happening. So, bad ass, what do they call? Badass animal rescue. Bad ass animal rescue.

This amazing company that's like fostering dogs and helping them get fostered, helping them get adopted in Brooklyn, has named two dogs, Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers. Ayah, wow. And they are angelic. Yes.

And it is truly, Every, whenever they post, I feel I have to repost because we have to get these dogs home. I know, no, and they're just angels. They're from Alabama. Yeah, they're rescued from Alabama. So this company, badass, they hire dogs from high kill shelters

and, you know, bad situations. Did I say that they hire them? They rescue them. If I said they hire them. What they do is they hire the dogs. The dogs are working. No, no. No, and so there's a Boen Yang and a Matt Rogers, a husky mix.

That's Bowen Yang. Then there's a hound mix that's Matt Rogers and they brought Nat Rogers the dog to the today show today and surprised me. She was so good. She was such a good boy. I do think you need to think about it. Not to pressure you on Mike.

No, I'm thinking about it. Because then there was another one you loved. Dabby Wendy. Explain her. She is a feist. She has perky little ears, gorgeous, wide-set eyes. It's giving, it's giving Dabby,

it's giving Emma Stone. It's giving... You know, Annie Taylor Joy. Wow, a beautiful an ingenue dog. No, she is an ingenue. And look, no dibs, anyone in Brooklyn? Or who wants to come pick these dogs up from Brooklyn? Please.

Just give these dogs forever homes. All I want is for them to get adopted, but I will say I told them, someone just cracked open their bevaray. Right, rich cigarette. The refreshco, as it were. One of the best words for refreshments. go. Spanish.

Yeah. I deeply want these dogs to just be adopted, but I will say I knew it was going to be dangerous. I laid eyes on that dog and I was like, oh, you have to be in my life. You have to be in my life. So I think I would like to be the dog's godfather. I would have to rename him. You couldn't have a dog named Matt Rogers.

I don't think so. What about Junior? What about Hey, Junior? Well, speaking of Junior, we have to talk about play in which this figures heavily into y'all yeah okay hold on we maybe saw the best play i one of my favorite plays i've ever seen yeah we're talking about purpose purpose and more to say about lost culture figuring into that lore as well oh yes because we got it confirmed we got it confirmed see but i was also but even like today i was talking to someone who who had seen and and he was like

i mean that's you like they're whatever there's a reference to um to what's the line the line is She was talking about two gay, two intense gay She was listening to a podcast She was in a 50 hours Of two intense What is it? Two really intense gay guys

Who are really invested in pop culture Yeah And so you know it is us Because Anna Hosniere Our producer went to the show Went backstage And met up Met with Brandon Jacobs Jenkins

The phenomenal playwright of the show And apparently anecdotally he has confirmed it He confirmed it So we knew we had to see the show, and we are so late on this one. Oh, we're so late. By the way, we're sort of

burying the lead here. We are going to talk about the cultural awards, which are now out. Thank you for watching it. If you did, if you haven't, you can stream it right now on Peacock, which feels crazy. But Bowen and I were able to watch it together, and we love it. And you can watch it now. And so we're going to talk about it at the end.

And if you haven't watched it. No spoilers. We are respecting that backloading so that you guys can tap out and watch if you haven't already. We went to go purpose finally, well, I guess the Tony winning best play this year by Brandon Jacob Jenkins. Yes. I'm directed by Alicia Rashad. Yes. And I really didn't know what to expect. I think that was the way to go in. Obviously knew about the accolades, but I was like, I don't know what this is going to be. And was really blown away. I mean, it was delighted. It was, it started off

for like genuine curiosity, and then once everything gets established, there's a lot of really important setup that happens in the first, I would say, hour or so of the show, right? And then, God, it really all just pays off. Yeah, it's just like painting this gorgeous painting and then watching the painting destroy itself. That it's really, I mean, it's, I think it's loosely based on Reverend Jesse Jackson's family. This family is called The Jaspers, and it's just a,

about like this incredibly important prominent black family in politics and religion and the sort of esteem they hold in their community and how that esteem is dealt with on the inside while having to project so much to the outside world. And every member of the family is dealing with some different strife in relation to their role in the family or their, you know, position in their lives.

And like you were saying when we left, Like, it's doing a lot. It's expansive. It all takes place in one, in one sort of set piece. Yeah, but just the living room of this home. The living room in this home, but it covers so much ground in terms of, as you mentioned, civil rights and religion and, like, sexuality and fertility and, like, neurodivergence and all of these things that, like, somehow it, it never gets bogged down by. Yeah, also, like, misogyny within family. family structures in many different ways.

It just took me back to family period. I was thinking about my family the entire time, which, you know, not to center like an Asian experience onto a black one, but it was just like, the way this is nailing family is crazy in a way that even like, me, me think I said to you was like, God, like, when the show first started, I was like, okay, this is, like, the Felicia thing makes total sense. Like it's, it has that sort of air of like that kind of comfort and like that family interest that, like, she's obviously known for, but it's like, it completely gets flipped on its head

in a crazy way. Yeah. I mean, it's really one of those things where it's like pretty much every moment is compelling and it's a constant build, which is hard to do. And it started with a really long monologue by the main character. And I was sitting there and I was like,

okay, is this going to be a monologue-driven show? Like, those are really hard to sustain attention. But it was really, really, just a testament to just how thick and how dynamic the situation between these characters are that, like, yes, of course, we did have that, you know, monologue set up, but then the scenes just sang. Like, really funny, really smart, really surprising. I didn't think I knew where it was going at any given moment. And there are a number of Chekhov's guns that do literally go off. But It's almost like really fascinating to watch a play know that's exactly what it's doing.

It's a very smart, very contemporary play. And he also wrote appropriate with Sarah Paulson, if you guys saw that a couple seasons ago. But I think one of the one of my favorite things about it was I said this to you afterwards. Two shows actually that we've seen in the past weekend. You've seen, but I've seen before. Use this thing to maximum effect. And that is a staircase. there is a staircase in purpose

that several different characters when they've just had it like on the first floor of the scene sort of ascend the staircase and like give it to the rest of the characters like it feels very dramatic and of course in death becomes her the staircase scene from the movie

is recreated and I know you just saw that and probably have a ton to say but don't sleep on the staircase as a set piece it is drama and it's actually a rule of culture number 10. Don't sleep on a staircase as a piece. It is drama. I remember one of my formative theater experiences was seeing the Smoky Hill High School production of Hello

Dolly the year before I would end up going to that high school. And wouldn't you know a staircase is used to great effect in many in many iterations of that show. But just on the titular number of Hello Dolly, if you have, if Dolly Levi comes out on a staircase, that's That's all you need to do. You're jumping for joy. The rest of the show can be dog shit. Mm-hmm. And I'm happy if I see a woman as Dolly Levi doesn't have to be,

doesn't have to look age-appropriate. She can be in high school. She can be 95 years old as, you know, Carol Channing was in a production. But, God, it's staircase is in theater. Huge. It is major. And don't think I haven't noticed that staircase over in. the West End, Evida.

At least at the end of the show, there's a staircase. And of course, we're playing with levels there because Zegler is up on the balcony, giving what they're saying is one of the best performances in recent memory, which this is crazy because they just said that and were right about Jamie Lloyd's last work. So he continues to crush.

I am really holding myself down in my chair to not fly to the West End and go see it there first because I'm just going to pray and hope that they get it together. But I need to see that performance. I need to see that number. I need to see those screens. I need to see that staircase and balcony work

come to Broadway. Staircases are very important. Staircases are very important. We might have to do something with that. Yeah. What do we do? I think... TK. TK.

The next Las Caltreista's Culture Award should have a staircase. We'll have a staircase. We did have stairs. We did. Great stairs. I got to utilize the stairs and you kind of did for a second.

I went down very quickly, I think we should have one on stage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that will be a huge expenditure, but I feel that it will be worth it. I would agree. I would agree. So I just want to, before we wrap up talking about purpose, I just want to shout out. Alana Arenas. Alana Arinas, because we said she played Morgan in the movie, who's the wife of this sort of disgraced eldest son.

And did you know this? So all of the actors got Tony nominations except for her. Really? And I said to myself, now, this is why she needs extra mention on Lost Coach, because we were living for the whole cast. But especially for Alana. She was ferocious. Well, from the first moment, because they really, like,

the way she's written and revealed, like, there's a slow drip of her, and it's a powder keg, whatever, whatever mixing metaphors, but she really, really pops for us, popped for us, I guess. It was our show. But by the way, we have to talk about that audience. Oh, yeah. Because this part of your, I don't think so any later. See, it's not.

But because I need a more measured way to pop off about this. This is the floor. So anyway, like, these actors are tearing it up. And what the, yeah, finish her thought. A lot, we just had to shout it along it still before. I'm so sorry. No, 100%. Let me put a little comma on that.

No, literally, shouting her out to the high heavens. And I'll tell you, who else was shouting out from the audience, was the audience. Was the audience? a very engaged audience, which we love. We loved, here's the thing about the audience. It was a mixture of like such an active crowd, people really reacting to everything, really fun to be there.

And some of the most disrespectful people, I turn around and it's at least six cell phones going off. It was six cell phones going off, one in our row. I have to say, you need to turn your phone off. Turn that shit off. I get that maybe everyone that we're talking to right now might not be the target audience for this because I think you guys have brains.

It was elderly people. It's older people. You need to reach out to the people in your life that are going to these shows and letting you know they're going and just make sure they've got their phones off because it's crazy. They had Felicia Rashad herself.

Getting on the God mic. Oh, like in a taped video that was like, please turn off the phones. They weren't even allowing snacks into this theater because of noise concerns. Like they were really going the extra mile and these people are so disrespectful. And if you are sick, do not go to a live theatrical event if you were sick.

Hacking up coughing. Hacking up alveoli. My God. Turning these lungs inside and out. And I said this to you. Really, really come after me. Obviously, this is not the right take. Let's go.

But it's like, if you know for a fact that you have a coughing problem on the day, I think it's worth considering maybe not going to the theater. Retire the side. You do not have to go. If you're hacking up coughing, seriously, I bet even if you called, I actually wonder about this. I wonder if you called the theater and you were like, I am infirm.

Yes. I am unable to make it to the performance because I will be a distraction. And it's not a safe atmosphere. Can I get my refund or, you know, can I reschedule? etc. Would they not do that? I feel like they would unless we really have like had such a crazy amnesia about COVID that like that's just that would be so unconscionable to the theaters. I really hope that there's something in place. Anyway, this is all to say like a lot coughing, a lot of coughing. So much coughing. I'm not even being like, no, we were we were in shock.

We were, it was like every two seconds. Someone was cartoonishly coughing. Because The thing about the cough is it's like, okay, I'm a little bit more lenient with that because it's like, I mean, the seats are tight. Sometimes you might think it's like you're making a whole fuss trying to get out of the seat, whatever. Like, you know, I have a little bit more grace for that. The cell phones, I have no grace for the cell phones. I have zero grace for phones. Because these people are on stage giving it everything. Like, and you are, and it's always like a ring a ding ding ding whackadoodle, whackadoodle time ringtone too.

It's whack a doodle ringtone with... a whack-doodle person. I'm sorry. Yeah, the people are laughing. I turned, I turned to look at some of these people and I was like, of course. I'm sorry. No, yeah, it was very of course vibes because it was what? The oldest, whiteest people in America coming to this play and acting disrespectful. It was crazy. The irony there is ironic. It was just so uncomfortable and disrespectful. And it happened, I'm telling you six times. It was the most I'd ever seen. I was like, but it's the year of our Lord.

2025. This is the Tony Award winner for best play. You couldn't even bring a snack in because of the concerns. And thank you for validating this because I felt like I was going crazy. It was actually one of those rare moments where I was like, oh, wow, this is something actionable that I can be upset about. And my upset will perhaps affect things for the better. And you were really flustered. And I was like, I just know we're going to make this part of our whole thing going forward. Yes. Me at the sign off of everything, turn off the phones in the theaters. Turn off the phones. Yeah.

This is cuckoo. Just do not disturb. Don't even airplane mode. Silent has existed for 18 years on the iPhone. Can't be on vibrate even during the show? It has to be, you have to ignore the warning and keep it on the volume.

Human beings don't deserve technology as we are seeing. Right. Especially as it gets more advanced. We do need it taken away. What say you about them being like kids can't have phones until they're 16? I say do it. Totally agree. Do it.

I mean, it's really hard. As a parent, I must empathize as a parent. I'm sure it's so hard to draw that to enforce that. Yeah, but they did it before. The parents of today would say, but it's just so part of our world now that, like, for kids to, like, shield and deny kids of that up until they're 16, while, like, from a very, from the age of four, every screen is being shown. up in front of their faces. It's like, how do you, how do you deny that?

Look, I'm not saying it's going to be an easy thing to do. And then maybe this is bordering on me, you know, performing my least favorite expression, which is devil's advocate. But like, if the problem is that it's such a fixture in our world, then like, you have to start like, regulating that from an early age so that like these, you know, little people when they become big people don't like need it and require it. Again, I'm on record here being like, I'll never be a parent. I don't see it for myself. I don't think it would be,

it would work for me. So whatever is working for you, but, you know, it's another reason. It's, their attention spans are really zap. Right. I can't,

like, it's like a chicken or the egg things. For me, where I'm just like, well, I don't want kids for this reason because it's like, I'm going to bring someone

into the world whose brain is going to be liquid by the time they're, there's, they're eight years old. You don't know what I mean? Because of like, yes.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's already happening to people who are fully grown. Yeah. So I'm like, no way. I'm not going to be responsible for an extent, for like an extension of myself out in the world,

acting that way. And so... And this is a lot about what purpose is about. To be honest with you. It's like, it's like I... Because it is about like purpose and legacy. Yes. It's like you create something in your legacy

and then you see it when it's become a realized thing and you're like, holy fucking shit. You say that can't be my fault. That can be my fault. And yet... It got me thinking, though, I was like, my purpose, the meaning that I draw from in my life is the thing that I think is the most direct panacea to despair, which is connection and community. I don't think you necessarily

have to have a child or, you know, have to like check off any boxes besides just like connecting with someone. And I was like, my best friend is sitting right next to me. And my purpose is just like our friendship and just trying to like radiate that outward to people and have them be a part of that. That's my purpose. Yeah. You know what I mean? It is kind of interesting to see something that's like, you know, about family and like anyone that is in a family or even a chosen family, I guess.

Like, not really. This is really about the blood ties that bind and how that can be restricting even if it feels elevating to everyone else. But it was interesting to watch a piece that like kind of was like arguing anti-family. And yet they, this is an example of a family that, you know, because of power. and influence, like, is also able to have each other's backs in this way that, you know, maybe in the short term is helping them, but certainly in the long term is damaging their souls. Right.

On that point, exactly. Like, I think this is why we're shouting at Alona Arena, specifically because that character does so much of the sort of clarifying work in the show in terms of, like, wow, this family is really, really fucked up in terms of how it deals with outside people. Yeah. And she just has a great scene in the second act, in the middle of the night. That's all we'll say.

Yeah. She does have a line with that I think we both loved, which was, I'm about to eat this here cake. Do you know what I'm hilarious? At the same time, hilarious. Devastating, too. Yeah. Her first line was, hello, whatever. You know what I'm talking about?

Yeah, she's just, she's got it. She was phenomenal. We really like it. We're fans. We're huge fans. And also shout out to Carrie Young, who won the Tony Award for this, who is her second. Antonio Award right in a row. She's been nominated in this category several times and like an icon. And we are very proud that you gave a performance as a reader.

Yes. I turned to man. I go, the fact that this character is a reader. Is a major reader. A finalist, even. No, she's a reader because the character is not a spoiler alert. She's a social. She does, she's involved in social work. And she's very just, you know, aware of her community and in politics and everything. Very much a reader. Yeah. I think definitely fits the bill. If people want to know what a reader is, you've got to go see purpose. We can't explain it to you anymore. It closes end of August. So if you have a chance to see it before then, please.

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You finally saw Death Becomes Her this weekend. So long overdue. I mean, I'd heard for months and months and months, like, this is your kind of show. I'm like, I know. It really is. And I even saw Paul, like, after the Tony's. And I was like, Paul, I haven't seen it. I'm sorry, Paul Taswell.

Who did the costumes for Wicked and Death Becomes her? And it's a phenomenal job in both. I mean, every single person on that stage looks amazing. Just like in Wicked. I'm like, oh, same person, not a single, like. Yeah, very detailed and just gorgeous down to the detail. And he, like, if he's so good at, like, making people stand out in very character-specific ways, but also he's good at, like, he says, like, he's good at people in, you know, the space.

Like, with Aw, with Wicked, like, he does that in every, like, shis. Emerald City, wherever. Much can land. So good at that. Like, this is a group of people and how does that look and whatever. I wonder if he sits in on auditions for musicals. Because you're kind of like, when someone like Paul is involved, I would imagine that it's almost like you're kind of looking at like not only dancers, but also models for your creations. And like, I really wonder about that process because he's such a huge part of why these things are as successful. Like, I wonder how creatively and prudorially involved he is. I'm sure very because I'm because I'm I'm like, yeah, like, I'm referencing, like, the fact that, like, everybody on that series,

just everybody in that company looks phenomenal. Michael Gricepha. Yeah, Mikey Gersepa. You might know from Fire Island. We've known him for years. He's, like, one of the Broadway boys. So wonderful. And he's fabulous in the show.

Fabulous in the show. It looks hot as shit. Of course. And, oh my God, just, there's nothing I love more than comedy. Yeah. It's so funny. It's just so fun. And when it's when something is funny,

in that way. I just go, oh, thank God. Yep. I feel like I've gotten cynical over the years just like doing the being lucky enough to do the jobs that we do where we really have to like buckle down and like think about and pick apart comedy in a way that like doesn't take the fun out of it, but just makes you like take it seriously, which is like what you have to do sometimes. But sometimes you realize that it's just about like the guttural sensation. Yeah. of, ha, this surprise element of, wow, didn't see that coming. And sometimes it's a lot easier to see things coming

when things are relying on playing emotional beats. And so something like Death Becomes Her or something else that we saw, I want you just keep talking about that becomes her. So this is moving into, I think, a bigger conversation, which is where comedy is at and where maybe it should go. And I think we are firmly in camp movement towards dumb. I mean, if you watch the Culture Awards last night,

are going to stream it today, you'll see that we are proud to be part of the movement towards stupid bullshit. Yes. And Death Becomes her is that. Absolutely. And I will. Also being like incredibly well done and executed. But it's also like, you know, they

take a potion and they, you know, death becomes her. But it lives alongside like a Paul Tazwell, like highly elevated departments. Yes. Like it lives alongside Paul Tazwell, lives alongside Christopher Gateli, directing this like everybody is at the top of their game Chris Sieber I thought was amazing oh he was so good

I loved his number Jennifer Samard Megan Hilty yeah some like our two funniest motherfuckers yeah that was crazy I mean like just the duet that's happening on stage between them the whole time to speak to say nothing of the songs that they actually do share which are so great but they are so perfect in this and I know we've been fans of both of them for such a long time but you know even in that like crazy-ass, like, best actress in a musical Tony race. Like, I was like, you know, part of me is not going to be upset at all. One of them just sneaks from behind and takes it because... I mean, that was it stacked.

It was a stacked here. It was truly stacked. Truly. Like, Nicole, Audra, Megan, and Jennifer. And then Ms. Jasmine, Amy Rogers. And, of course, how could I forget. To be honest with you, like, could have been the best of all of them. It was five great nominees.

Yeah. Samard, like, just like, how... confident you have to be to like of course be performing out on a Broadway stage but also throwing it away and in contrast to the bomb bass that is Megan Hilty who by the way reputation like precedes her in many ways and still blows it away I know still blows it away you know I wonder how she feels about this because I think it's so fucking cool and I think it's very aspirational and I wish like more actors could be identified this way so many of the things that she's done two handers. Yep. Like between Wicked and Smash and this and like and of course she has a huge

array of other work that is singular and it's it showcases her. But I think that's so amazing that she she's so comfortable sharing the bill in the space with another actor who's on the horizontal to like lateral in terms of that kind of whatever positioning. It's like I respect the fuck out of that. Yeah, absolutely. I mean she I think I you probably first became a became aware of her when I did, which was as like a young gay boy YouTubeing Glinda. Yes. And then like seeing what she was capable

of then and it felt like when she booked Smash when we were, I guess like in college. It kind of felt like I remember like reaching back to my younger gay self and being like oh my God, Megan Hilty is on a big television show. Like we won. We're kicking ass.

And then even on that show, she was so fucking good but so underappreciated. I know. Like Ivy. Like, in terms of, like, giving a performance in a musical show, like, no one was doing it like that. No. And also, not that anyone was getting opportunities to do it like that, but nobody could do it like that. There was a few numbers that she did on that show, one called Let's Be Bad.

Let's be Bad. Which also was then in some like it hot, the musical. Yes, yes, yes. She crushed that. All the big musical theater set pieces, she always crushed. And then death becomes her, like, there's that scene where she first, like, kind of realizes that he's moved on and she's old. Right, right, right. I'm like, just, like, the way she was tearing it up and belting to God.

Like, but the whole thing was so stupid. I was like, is this what made me want to do comedy in the first place? I think kind of. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, that sort of stupid, gay, over the top, very knowing, you know what I mean? Right on the nose, but, like, deliciously so. But it hits the same.

same nerve is like a Jenna Maroni. Like there's some, like gay men go crazy for that. You know what I mean? And she absolutely, totally, totally does that. 20th century fox mombo. That's also. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 20th century fox mombo.

Yep, I remember the whole thing. So good. But then Smash was also so dumb sometimes. Remember when they didn't sing cheers, I'll drink to that in Times Square? I do. Like, it was like the two characters like hated each other. Uh-huh. Hate it.

And they were like, well, I guess we're just. out in New York tonight and then they went and saying cheers drink to that by Rihanna because this show let's we forget was airing at the same time as Glee and so like they were like

it was all over the place I'm sure in the rain is where they were like what the fuck do we do yeah what are we just do can we just try the glee thing and see if that works even though it makes no fucking sound like sing just like a pop cover

can you imagine getting the scripts and like they're really working hard I'm like we're building our dynamic it's really tense we both want this job and they flip the page and it's like oh in this scene we get rum drunk in Times Square and it and we are singing Rihanna Cheers

drink to that like sure let's just try I mean that's network that is network TV baby I love it from a different era and again bring it back bring it back um but I but I went to go see it with Gina Gershahn yes we got we had a long lovely night together and also there at that night we got to go see hi backstage janks monsoon and Jen Harris this the weekend before their last girl's date before this is tonight tonight's the first of their i love it they were like kumail's amazing michael yurie's amazing of course like it's a great i can't wait to see this new cast um but it's just so fun like jinx and megan go way back and megan saw gina when she did cabaret and like early in the early in the early on had you met

megan hildee before no that was my first time and i really fan girled hard i was like well yeah And I caught myself. I wanted to be like, I want to be like, little gay, little gay boy. Yep. Like going on Broadway.com every day. Like that was when I first found out about you. Like, I really had to contain myself. And I wanted to be like, you're the reason why like I started researching the

like Carnegie Mellon when I thought like that was like a pathway. And obviously I'm like it all worked out. And I would not have done well in a musical theater program. But I'm like, but she was like she opened like her. She opened up the door to all these things for me. And she's just so. fucking good. Just great.

Just chill. Good vibe. I could tell good vibe. She brought us out the stage, George. She was like, I'll be your cover. Like you guys run past. Oh my God. You're a fucking legend.

I feel like if I could have wrapped the opportunity to like be myself now and visit my little gay self as a ghost. What I would just say from the corner of a room is Megan Hilty. And I know that little gay me would be. What? Who said that? Who said that? How do you know I'm gay? How do you know?

know I would know that name. That would be me. Just like... Megan Hilty. Yes, I know it's me from the future. She slays even in 2025. Don't worry. There should be a gay discovery satellite.

Wow. Yeah, there should. Do you know what I mean? Because you know the discovery satellite is like, it's just like there's a vinyl on it. There's a golden vinyl on it. There's all these different things from human culture from like they like sent it up in the 70s.

Oh yeah. We got to do that. We have to do that for gay culture. All right. That'll be the next. That'll be the next thing we do. because now the cultural awards are out. We have a little bit more free time.

And you have reminded the group, the producers, and the editors of Los Culturistas, the award-winning podcast on IHeart Radio. Crickly claimed. And big many players. We are approaching 500. We are approaching our 500th episode. You guys, I believe this is like 485.

It really doesn't feel right, but I have to tell you, remember, we absolutely blew past the 400th. We didn't do our 400th. 400th until 440. And again, we don't take breaks. No. And that is something.

Which honestly felt good. Sounds great. But here's the thing. It's like when we do episodes like this, I do kind of feel like we're on a break. Totally. You know what I'm saying? And just to let everybody know, men are going to just be sort of like orbiting around each other not necessarily in the same place all the time.

So it will be more just like just culture catch-ups. We're going to backlog some guys. episodes in September. Yes, that's right. You know, but those will be evergreen by design. We're not going to talk about any top-old stuff on those.

Can I have it? Can I maybe pitch something for the 500? What's your pitch? In the vein of like gay satellite, the 500 things? The 500 things. Los Culturistas, 500 things. That's really good.

It will be a little bit. Banana is on there. Banana? Banana might be a huge bummer. Banana is top ton. Can I start off FYC for one of the things? Of course it's your podcast. I talked about this with Jenna Bush Hager today.

Of course, it's your podcast. It's actually real culture number nine. Of course, it's your podcast. Apple cinnamon muffin. Think about it? No, I never mind it. I always say yes. What do you mean you don't mind it?

I'm just saying if I have not, I can't say that I've like pursued it very much in my life, but any time it's in front of me, I go, oh my God, I love Apple Cinnamon Muffin. Do you know what I just realized in you saying, of course, it's your podcast? I can kind of use this for anything, huh? So what I'm going to use it for in this moment is I need my New York and L.A. readers, Katie's, publicist, finalist, and Kyle's, which, by the way, congratulations, Kyle's, you remain as one of the fan community.

Really wonderful messages I received. I want to know where I can find an apple cinnamon muffin. And I want to know if you have favorites, I want to know where they consider. Consistently and reliably make apple cinnamon muffins. Not an apple muffin. Not a cinnamon muffin. Apple cinnamon muffin. You know, you could make it on your own.

Don't do this. Because you know what you're doing. Being a bitch. No, because you make the foods that you love such as buffalo chicken dip. Girls, let me get my bag. What is that? I need my reefer because my girlfriend is coming for me. We should be smoking reifer.

All right. Let's get the thing. Do you have anything else say about Death Becomes her because I haven't mentioned two words yet Michelle Williams Michelle Williams That voice, that look I just went

That is a muse in every way Do you know what I mean? Did you hear about the rumor? What's the rumor? The rumor is I took one hit and I'm being conspiratorial The rumor is Act 3 is

Definitely rock And that ball Destiny's Child is coming that last part feels too good to be true but why would it be too good to be true you know what I mean because it's like what else not to say that Kelly and Michelle aren't booked in busy as we're literally talking about Michelle

I'm sure there will be Kelly and Michelle features on act three you're saying the rumor is that they're the whole album no well then they come on tour with her that's great that sorry I was not specific enough act three is a rock album yes perchance the girls are featured on it yes but that the acts three tour

is going to be all three of them what I had heard and mind you we hear so many things about Beyonce and then half end up being true half end up being not like the sphere of it all

was not true the visuals the visuals I mean kind of came kind of didn't also there was that crazy thing about them

being stolen from the car that is true that's crazy bitch that is the truth I still don't I still haven't we haven't talked about that that's like the Mona Lisa

being stolen you don't take that That's actually real a culture number 90. That's like the Mueller. You don't take that. By the way, we should just pause here and say, I know we're going to get to the Culture Awards later, but Mary M. Cosby came to a, essentially came to a party that we threw.

And played a role. And we met her. And this is what she said. Do you remember what she said? All I remember is vaguely her saying, Who are you guys? Mm-hmm. This is what it was.

We came around the corner. Mary Cosby, I turned to ball, and I was like, The look that Mary Cosby pulled for our show, she's in a red, be cloaked gown, and with a red bag and a red gloves. And she turned to us and she said, I had the most amazing time. And we said, Mary, thank you for being here.

You elevated the whole thing. And she goes, my husband said, you better know who they are. And she goes, and I do know Matt and Bowen. And I was like, you are everything. She was like, we need to get a picture. picture. And so I think we should just post that picture. There's going to be a lot of things posted online. That needs its place. That needs its own grid spot. That's how I knew. Us and

Mary Cosby? Yeah. The fact that we, was she enjoyed her time there. So a huge badge of honor. But quickly before, death becomes her. Yeah, we've been in very much a Broadway episode and there's so much to get to. Lauren Yang, he's the one who does the tumble down the stairs. Yes. And spoiler. Okay. Well, that's a Spoiler by spoiler. But it's been many months. Please go see you. I did not ruin anything.

Trust me. Michelle ate them up. The singing. If you bought a bunch of shriek, the, like, riff she is doing at the top of her belt. I love it. Absurd.

And she, I love that she kind of comes in sort of laughing the whole time. She's like, I'm having fun doing this. She stands, delivers absolutely. belts these songs like you've never heard and then leaves being like, I killed it. She had exit applause every time. Our audience, we had a respectful audience. See, that's what I'm saying.

Is it like they showed up and also death becomes her is quite loud. Yeah. So it's like you can't always hear everything going on. If it's a play. That's the thing. It was a play where you really needed to listen. With most plays, you really got to engage. You can't be coming to the theater.

Like cracking, popping, coughing, like chewing, gnawing, ripping, ripping. There was a lot of-and-dialing. We're brow-beating a lot. But it's just... I'm sorry, but it's crazy. Does this make us like the old faggots in the chair in Muppets? Basically, no, because they were insulted. No, they're actually the problem.

No, you're right. If Staller and Waldorf were still going to the theater today, their phones would be ringing. They'd be canceled. That's not what I said. to speak more in things that have happened on stages have you seen the clips of Cynthia giving what looked to be the performance of a lifetime in Jesus Christ Superstar

Yeah I mean it looks sacred It looks religious Remember when she was on and I was like Wow so you've played Aretha You've played Harriet Tubman You've played Elvaba, you've played Sealy Now she's played Jesus Christ You can't she can't play a normal woman

Unlimited Whoa I had even thought of that. Elphabah. Oh my God. Life imitates art. Life imitates art. Yet again. I saw Josh Sharp to-da. Oh my God. Have you talked about it yet on the pod? Um, not really. I guess I guess I was waiting for you. I'm so proud of Josh. He's just, he's so great. And honestly, I'm sitting there watching the show and it, the way, like, it was just unraveling. It just, it's one of those. It's like, it gets better every second because you realize what the no pun intended purpose of the slides are and you know he goes through

2,000 slides in the show and is like perfectly exactly on it and ends up telling you know a really beautiful story and I just love him so much it's just life affirming literally it's a life affirming show and hilarious Sam Pinkleton yeah heard of um want a Tony want a Tony that guy is And, yeah, I mean, we don't want to give it anything away necessarily. That's the thing is it's like you can't really give it. Like, you got to go. Bert, you know what, guys? Sounds like you're hitting the block.

Sounds like you guys have shows to go see. And that's good. Yeah. That's a good thing. Today ticks. And you know what? I'm being really earnest when I say that. Oh, yeah.

And a lot of times on this podcast, when we say today, tics, peek behind the curtain, it's an ad. It's an ad. It's an ad and we're getting paid for it. In some way, in a way that we don't always see. You know what? We know that someone is making money. Someone is making money somewhere.

We hope us. That's all that matters. But yeah, no, get on today ticks. I wonder if to-da-a is on today-ticks. It is on today-tick. It is definitely on today-tank. And use code, whatever the code is. Just put it, just, just, just, ding-dong.

For today-ins-you-use code ding-dong, or it's called Doristas, or just do monkeys at a typewriter until you get it. The way we were laughing in the theater, not just Broadway or I at all, But the cinema varietal When we saw the naked gun Is movies your favorite? It's right. Actually, theater is always my favorite.

Theater is always your favorite. And I said that to Celestium at Wicked in the West End. I said, theater's my favorite medium. And you were like, well, yeah. I was saying this to them as a player. And they were like, well, yeah, I mean, the fact that you're sharing space with them makes it the most immediate thing.

I was like, that's it. To me, it's like this. Number three, film. Okay. Number two, theater, theatrical, R.E. theater are and then number one number one of course haunted house escape room that is interesting is it interesting or is it not if it's not that's okay too i don't say it because it's interesting i just say it because i like to run around and be chased are you saying that i want the boys trying to

come and get trying to come and get you don't well i guess you do but you do no remember that we went to win the Poconos. What? Do you remember the one which way to win the Poconos? But that's interesting though. Like you want to run around and be chased,

but like don't you feel, don't you get that same sensation of running, like running around and being chased while you're watching a horror film? Like, it's the same day. Oh my God. I can't re litigate this with you.

I would rather do a haunted house than a scary movie because in a haunted house things make sense. It's like, okay, that is flying out of that door. Okay, that beast is coming at me with that knife.

In a film, you can edit it to make it crazy. But it gives you that same thrill of like, oh my God, like, I'm terrified. I have to just go along for the ride, I suppose, which is what you do in every haunted house. Honestly, if we were to actually unpack this, I want to know. I want to know, too. Should I reach this subject with my therapist? And be like, hi, every time I sit down for like a scary movie or even a suspenseful movie, I have dread.

What is this? that something happened to me at the theater. Right. Well, I'm saying like there's something about like, I'm learning a lot about my, the reasons for my anxiety. Really? Yes. I feel like I shared them with you the other night.

Like things, I'm really breaking open new ground. Mercury is coming out of retrograde. It was a rhetorical. Really? Really? I think you figuring this out will unlock so many other doors. Treasure's untold. treasures I'm told

All right Stacy I'm coming back to therapy on Friday babe She doesn't listen to this Actually my therapist did tell me She's like I purposefully if I see you in something I turn it off right right no that's I was like well that sucks you can't like See some cool stuff

That's fair though right I guess so I had so remember that period of time Like a couple years ago where I had two Therapists yes One of them was like I'm a fan of what you do And the other one was like I turn off everything, I see you in,

and I make a point if you say you're gonna be in it, I don't watch it. And I was like, I have to stay with you. I must stick with you. That's like that, it's like that riddle of a, you run into a town where there's only one barber shop, and there's two barbers. Love this riddle.

You need a haircut. For some reason in this rule, you dress and need a haircut. Okay. And you go into a barber shop and there's two barbers. Oh my god. This is my nightmare. One of them. has an amazing haircut

and one of them has an awful haircut which one do you go to? Is there a right answer? Yes. If you want a good haircut, which barber do you pick? Okay, in this world,

this is a simple answer. If someone has a good haircut and they're like, I'll cut your hair. And someone has a bad haircut and they're like, I'll cut your hair. To be honest with you, I would go with the first one with the bad haircut. That makes sense.

Because they got the haircut from the person with the good haircut. Was I supposed to have like known that? That's like part of the reasoning. I'm sorry, I maybe didn't set it up correctly because it's like... Well, because I think you said it was a riddle. It's a riddle. You think that's a riddle?

A riddle is like, fiddle me thee, fiddle me this. No, no, that's a riddle that doesn't have to... A riddle so have to rhyme. I have an enigma wrapped in a riddle in cash. Fucking Erica. Fucking Erica. Wait, what we were talking about earlier? We were talking about...

Oh, that therapist. It's like you chose the therapist, you picked the therapist who doesn't see you and stuff. So you're like, it was like the barber with the bad haircut. Yeah. Like the one who is, who understands what she does on a more deeper level. Honestly, just on a more deeper. It was weird. It was like, I was like, well, I kind of, I'm because I remember back in the day.

The girl's reverse has me flying. Back in the day, my therapist was like, we were dealing with stuff around the shooting of fire. Island. And I was like, I think I want you to watch the movie because it's relevant to the issues that I'm going to. So I did the same with my therapist. I gave them homework. Yes. And she was like, I watched it. I enjoyed it. And I was like, okay. And then we talked about it like as related to things coming up shooting the movie. This is Stacy. So I think my therapist is the same. I don't, I think he does not really. You have a gay man. And so it makes it even weirder, I guess. But like I, but the only time I've ever told him to watch something that I've done with Spire Island. I was like, I was like, I was like, this is going to

explain a lot. Yeah. I think it was really important. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Agree. Also because, like, I think probably a lot of us were talking about each other. Girl. Well, no, I think we were just like, like, this movie is like something. This is our first time doing this like this. Yeah.

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It's that, you know, something that you need to work on. I would say with this stuff is look out for those feelings of resentment because they're a sign that there was some sort of boundary that wasn't held before, you know, that if you're not asserting your own desires or wishes or needs and then resenting your partner or your friend for filling the space for you, then it comes back to, okay, well, what do you want that's not this? Listen to a really good cry on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so we, one thing I wanted to say as we move into, because the reason we even started talking about this is because I was breaking up that we saw a movie, which is Naked Gun.

You have to go see this, everybody. So good. It's so good. It's so fucking stupid. I need to see it three more times because it really is that kind of movie where, like, the, comedy comes at you from every which angle, and you're just like, okay, I need to process that joke in about like two weeks because I need to focus on this other joke that's coming on. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, there was, there was like, it was you really, it was blink and you miss it in terms of just how many jokes there were. And I love Liam Neeson. I love Liam Neeson. I have to say, I was kind of Liam Neeson agnostic before this because I'm not like a taken girlie. Right, right. of all respect to Maggie Grace, always,

and she will always be Shannon and lost. But I could not make the leap to the Maggie Grace vehicle taken just because, again, like, didn't seem like a movie, I was going to be like, B for B, Pound for Pound, I enjoy this, this pace of film. And Liam, to me, is wrapped up in the taken of it all. So to see him in this, he's got a fan for life now. I love that.

I love Pam. I love Pam so much. I love the guy who, played the villain. Oh, we were saying his line reads where everything, there is a run about the black eyed peas in this, which was really, really, really, really one for the books. It's really good. And then Fergalicious comes in as a drop at one point.

That's a great needle drop. The movie knew something. Akiva Schaffer, you know something. You know something about filmmaking. You know something the other girls don't, which is that you, if you can do the Fergalicious drop, you do do the Fergolicious drop. It is stupid comedy. it is really see yeah the original one we need to go we need to move in this direction yes absolutely the original movie i rewatched just in the lead up to this new one and i was just like the original and the first in the original trilogy and i watched it and it was like i mean a lot of this just still holds up yeah like this kind of humor it's just like i mean it'll never go out of style some of it is like okay like that's there's a slight patina on that but everything else it's like hilarious site first one had a lot more psych gags yeah um and just for some reason like like

I love that they kept in this updated version, like, you know, just these two people, like, running over everybody and, like, crashing in the things all the time. So a little bit different on 70s cameras, or 80s cameras, I should say. I mean, yeah, like, because, yeah, I will say, because now we know, like, how... I know, that's a little bit more, I guess. How intense, like, I don't know how to, how, this is what I think it is.

Comedy has for a while now actually asked a lot of the audience. And I think watching something done that is just literally so much time had to be put into this, but it doesn't feel like it. Like every hard joke is what matters and what's important. And I love the sketch way that the scenes are all set up. It obviously made me miss Austin Powers. We were even talking after them.

Could there be another Austin Powers now after this. But that is, I think, the difference is it's like, even when I sell Superman, I was like, yeah, in this superhero movie, like, one of the gags is Lois puts sugar in her coffee for like approximately 15 seconds and then just drinks the coffee like it's normal. And it's just a joke in the movie. And I'm like, hmm, even superhero movies took themselves so fucking seriously there for a while. So to see that gag happen, I was like, huh. And then with naked gun, it's all just so stupid. And I was like, having a bigger reaction than I've had in a long time.

And that's not to say that comedy can't be meaningful or shouldn't be meaningful or isn't meaningful in this new way I'm like exalting. But it is really nice to just drop your shoulders, not take anything too fucking seriously and just rip 100%. Because I don't know what you were thinking in the theater yesterday or two days ago. I was just like, this feeling of laughing in a theater feels so foreign. Yeah, and also so good. So good. But I'm like, it's been way too long since I've done this. You used to reliably be able to go to the movie theaters and like laugh at something like bridesmaids.

Yes. You know what I mean? Like those are formative memories. And honestly, this is, this is, I think, a real thing. Like, horrors continue to do fine at the box office, but comedy's not actually drives away. a whole kind of person that goes to the movies when the only thing you can really reliably go to the movies for is like shock or wonder it's like a lot of people aren't interested in a lot of people are interested in a different kind of reaction and going to the movies and i get that

like you know because of streaming you can it's easier to provide that sort of comfort viewing or it's more acceptable to get away with it going straight to people's homes but we're really missing out on putting hard comedies in theaters because those are some of the most formative experiences of my life. Of my life. And we don't have that. And I'm sorry, but that type of human

that would enjoy that is still fucking out there. And there's still that age. And there's still, you know, I get that the world has changed, but like, I just don't believe that there's no desire for people to go see good comedy at the theaters. I just don't.

Because as you're saying this, it's like, that does drive away a whole kind of people who goes to the movies. And so the way that we, you and I, and a whole generation of people, defines comedies now is that, like, okay, we're still attached to this thing of going to the theater and laughing with everybody. It's just a different sensation. You're just aware of the people around you. Anyway, obviously.

But I'm just saying, like, it then defines what comedy is for a generation of people growing up who all they think comedy is is, like, some person on TikTok doing a very, like, refracted kind of meme-y thing. Right, which it is, but it's just like, that's not all of comedy, right? It's not direct, hard comedy. Exactly. It is, it is in reference to something where there's almost no, like, proof that exists anymore. Or this generation thinks comedy is like someone, a stand-up comedian, quote, a quote, going up on a mic and just saying whatever slurs they want at, like, Kill Tony. It's like, that's not comedy either, but they think that's comedy. And it's like, you need movies like this that reach every audience, and that is what.

the example should be. This is not going to be to everyone's taste. But what I am saying is you can be any kind of person and think this movie is fun. Yes. You know what I mean? And that's important. You might not love it. Like I even,

I'm in a group thread where a couple people were like, I thought the movie actually could have been funnier. Not everything landed, but it doesn't have to. There's almost something about that too. It's like, okay, that bit went by and maybe it didn't work for me as much as the last one.

But the fact is like your batting average can be a little bit lower. when you're taking a lot of swings. You know what I mean? This movie is constantly jam-packed with the goal of every single fucking thing being funny. So, yeah, if it's batting average is like a 760 instead of a 9-90, that's pretty fucking good.

Either way, it's great. Yeah, because there's some quote-unquote comedy out here which are taking no swings of comedy. And I'm sorry, but when you, when everything is comedy, you do dilute things out of that. I don't know, moratorium on what is comedy. And I think everyone...

But I think you and I just figured it out, for real. The way we, for a second, there, were number three on the comedy podcast list. Behind... We said, eat it. Yeah. And Rogan. Eat it. Alex Cooper?

Eat it. Eat it. We went right below her right away. Of course. That's okay. We respect all these girls. No. we just think

But for a second we had We had the number three spot And I think we just proved why Absolutely Right now we are wearing All White, we are in an all white room And we're like little angels

And that's how I want you guys to think of us Whenever we don't have a visual aid Just like two little angels In like a white room Like it's heaven or something Just talking to each other Floating around like a little heads and we're wearing white button downs with like a chiffon with the siphon chafon with the

siphon chafon pant speaking of music and pants oh you know who's wearing the pants um in terms of my spotify most streamed lately interesting expression sometimes i really segues in me go great And then other times it goes like that. I love it. Who's wearing the pants of my Spotify? Have you been streaming the subway? Absolutely. So good.

So good. I just, and I love that it is so different from what, like, the version of songs she's been performing at the concerts. Because it feels like it's more like acoustic and like not quite as lush and like, I don't know. I feel like when she was doing it live only in her concert before she released it and recorded it, like recorded it, like recorded and released it. It just felt like a different song. And this just feels like it gives it a whole new life. Yeah.

I mean, my. my confession is I actually wasn't very familiar with the live version because I just really wanted to at the time I remember being like I really want to wait because I'm sure that this is coming soon and then it's just kind of never came so I didn't really have like much of a vocabulary for it so I'm kind of experiencing it as a new song. Oh that's great then that's a great experience. Of course I listened to it like when it came out at first and then a couple times when she was coming on but like it hasn't been in rotation. I fucking love that song. So good. Like and just how grand it is and how long it is.

I just love that she feels like she can get away with something like this because she can. She doesn't feel emboldened, I mean, she doesn't feel encumbered by any expectation about like what a pop song is. I think because like everything she's done has been on her own terms anyway.

I love that like Casual has like this little sister song. I do think ultimately it is the best song on. Casual or something? I think Casual is the best song on our first album. 100% agree. I mean, when you see her do it live and you feel that song alive, and it is the song that made me first really turn my head to her. There's just something so special about it.

Are you kidding me? Like that whole fucking thing. Anyway, yeah, Subway. And this feels like that song. I need to give the music video another spin. But just the shot of her of like those butterflies like flying around her as it pans up. She's a great actor. I'm just like, this is an incredible visual, just period.

I think it's, I think that the subway video and the man child video both were feats in pop girlie music video history, recent history. I love the man child video. I love that every single shot is different. I love that, uh, like literally. Right. I love this choice with the hair and the subway. Like I, she serrated it. She serrated it.

These girls are serrating. I think we have to, we all have to surate. We have to serrate better. Oh, it's not the butterfly. Sorry. It's the garbage when she's, yeah, in the intersection. Fuck, I'm just, God, that's, that's amazing. Yeah, it's her being dragged by the car.

Oh, like, are you kidding me? You can do that in a music video? I'm so happy that they're being intentional about music videos. I know, I know. Because that's another thing that's gone the way of the dodo is sort of the music video. Like, you know. You're right. It's only the girls.

The girls who like, Ariana is always really, really good about. But I was saying, like, were you going to say it's always the girls? I'm sorry. Yes, I agree with you. I didn't interrupt you. No, you didn't at all. But are you saying that it's the girls who, like, have the studio backing? Because it's just like some of these girls just don't have the money. It's the ones that have, like, the big guns, I think, that can crank out these videos.

And then... It's the girls who, like, don't get the money from the label. Yeah, but you know what, though? Like... I said studios. I meant label. You don't need that much money to do something, like, cute and interesting. Yeah. And I just don't think you do.

Like, I think you just pick something that's like... You're being so... Michelle Vissage right now. I love it. You don't need... You don't need a lot of money. I'm refusing to give them a budget. Girls, I'm not giving you a budget.

No, make your own videos. I'm not giving you a budget. You're not getting a budget for the season. I also, speaking of Dan Nygrove, his other song, that's Conan Gray's Black and Cranberry. I'm supporting this young girl. Conan Gray, I'm supporting. I think we need to really be listening to this one.

Bright star. I'm only streaming this. That's so cute. I love it. I love it. I love that we, I love that like. There's a singer like that.

Yeah, I mean, the belt at the end of the bridge. I love it. It's crazy. And then he put together a cute little video too, where the boyfriend leaves him. R.

Sorry. No, he, he gets to put together a saucy little video or he's got like his like little gay love interest. Then there's like a, you know, an errant single tier at the end when they know it's not working. They break up. Oh, we love it. Punching the gut.

Punching the gut. Little gay singer. Little gay singers everywhere. Conan's one to watch. Have you listened to Demi Levato? I want to go fast. I want to go far. And it's like, given it home.

It's locked and loaded for the gay guys. Of course. Demi Lovato. Is it, ah, is the music a day about? I'm sure. No, but she's been doing a lot of like. Walking through a claw. She's been sort of giving this.

Describe to everyone what I'm doing. I've seen videos like walking through a claw. I want to go fast. Yeah, man, that's just kind of posing seductively. I look like jinx from Pokemon. Yes. Yes. You know what I mean?

Like, you just give them a little reference of a wiggle. I want to go fast. This she, Demi, I want a big Demi moment. Cool for the summer was one of the great peaks of my life. It continues to reappear in beautiful ways. Cool for the summer. Should we just like really, we're going to Peatown. Should we make cool for the summer a big thing in Peatown?

Yes. Just like whenever we get ready, like it's always cool for the summer. Like we can't leave any place without playing it as we leave. This is how I feel about apple cinnamon muffin, which I was going to say is your beef stew. How'd you feel? Huh? How'd you feel? Good?

Yeah. But cool for the summer is like apple cinnamon muffin. I will never mind it. Oh. Yep. You're edged. How about that? You thought we were actually going to play it?

No. I was ready. You're edged. You're not getting it. See, and this is what we've been saying for a really long time. Our grandparents will have somewhere over the rainbow. Our grandchildren will have Cool for the Summer. And we have been saying this.

It is number one on the Great Global Songbook. I don't think you're hearing me. I really don't think you're hearing me correctly. Cool for the summer. Cool for the summer. for the summer is number one. On the great, not American, global, never American songbook.

This song stands tall with other winners of our lists. The iconic 400, the number one person on the list is Mariah Carey. The top 200 moments in culture, the number one moment in culture was Adele DeZeme. Do you understand? It is the song equivalent of those. To those. Oh my God. I still don't think they get it

is the sick part you will get it even more there are a lot of people that are just like you know like Demi Lojado Fast comes out and they don't remember what a Demi era can give and that's the part that chokes me up

it chokes me up cool for the summer you will understand even more when we release the 500 objects of culture yeah you will it would be the equivalent to the number one of that. How about that?

Let's just say Demi Lovato's top in that music video is on it, okay? The top that she wore in that music video

is on the list of 500 things of culture. Should we drink Flower Boy? Yes. Okay, so happy birthday,

Kyle Cook. Happy birthday Kyle Cook. Is it his birthday 50? Yes, actually it is. Mr. Butula,

we are, so we're going to have, so did Kyle send you this? Yes. I'm sorry. Kyle,

you're in the dog house with me because Kyle cook. I was supposed to get some flower boy and you know I'm a little stoner. Amanda, get Mr. Batula on the horn. Can I say something? What? I texted Amanda Batula happy birthday and I did not get a response. I think she's like that cool. One thousand percent. Wait, what do you mean? She loves you. She was, she's going to text back happy birthday. No, she, no. I'm saying she doesn't have to. And I'm saying that these people, the Kyle and

Amanda, while we love them, maybe it's not meant to be that we're friends with them. You know what I mean? As much as we would like to, maybe it's not, maybe they're not ready for us. You think, do you think that our, our expectations were too high? I thought we made a real connection with them. We thought we made a real connection with you guys. And we're sitting here, we're drinking Flower Boy and we're just kind of despondent. We're just kind of, because we just miss you guys. We love you. We're going to drink Flower Boy. Happy birthday, Kyle Cook. Dieter Cal Cook. Watch what happens live. They asked us if we'd rather fuck you or who was the other...

Oh, Jesse. Jesse. And I said you. For so many reasons. Yeah. No, but your type is Jesse, though. And even on the show, I believe that you said your type was Jesse.

Oh, no, so it wasn't Kyle and Jesse. It was... Who was it? It was like, who would you rather bang? Kyle Cook or... But Kyle's was with someone else and Jesse was with someone else. Well, clearly you ran away with this one, Kyle.

Anyway. Cheers to you. Happy 43rd. Your skin looks better than ours. I literally said to him, I was like, I turned to him at one point. I think, oh, is this grape? Yeah.

Did you give me the grape one? Is that okay? What is that? Orange. We can trade. I like the grape one. Can I at least try the sip? Yeah, you don't like a grape.

Whoa, this is an ad for flower boy. I'll take the grape. And to think how heartbroken we just were. I know. I like the grape. Do you like the orange? I want the orange. Okay, green.

Okay, you like the grape. Yes, there's something about grape, the kid grape juice feeling that like. I got to tell you something. This is actually really fucking good. And I was drinking Loverboy when I was, where was I just, where was that? I guess it was not Memorial Day weekend. Oh, 4th of July. For the July.

And lover boy was slapping. Yeah. I was drinking Flower Boy during Fourth of July as well. Or you were doing lover. I was doing flower. And it was like, you were on your flower. I was on my lover. When I became a journalist, I was the first Latina in the newsrooms where I worked.

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they're creating this narrative that immigrants are criminals. This is about everyone's freedom of speech. Nobody expected to popes from the American continent to stories about our cultures and our identities. When you do get a trans character like Imira Perez, the trans community is going to push back on that. Colorism, all of these things that exist in Mexican culture and Latino culture. You'll hear from people like Congresswoman, AOC. I don't want to give them my fear. I'm not going to give them my fear.

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Let's talk legacy, tech, and generational wealth. I don't think any person of any gender, race, ethnicity should alter who they are, especially on an intellectual level or a talent level. to make someone else feel comfortable just because they are the majority in this situation and they need employment. So for me, I'm always going to be honest in saying that we need to be unapologetically ourselves. If that makes me a vocal CEO and people consider that rocking the boat, so be it. To hear this and more on the power of black innovation and ownership, listen to Black Tech Green Money from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Eye Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, Puzzlers, let's start with a quick puzzle.

The answer is Ken Jennings' appearance on The Puzzler with A.J. Jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land? Jeopardy-truthers who say that you were given all the answers believe in... I guess they would be conspiracy theorists. That's right. Are there Jeopardy-truthers? Are there people who say that it... It was rigged. Yeah, ever since I was first on, people are like.

They gave you the answers, right? And then there's the other ones which are like. They gave you the answers, and you still blew it. Don't miss Jeopardy legend Ken Jennings on our special game show week of The Puzzler podcast. The Puzzler is the best place to get your daily word puzzle fix. Listen on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Radhdi Dvlukaya and I'm the host of a really good cry podcast and I have the opportunity to talk to Dr. Julie Smith. Julie is a clinical psychologist, a bestselling author and one of the most trusted voices in mental health online.

She was one of the first therapists to use TikTok as an educational platform and since then she has built a global audience of nearly 10 million people by making emotional support accessible, honest and deeply human. You know, resentment isn't something that the world owes you. It's that, you know, something that you need. need to work on. I would say with this stuff is look out for those feelings of resentment because they're a sign that there was some sort of boundary that wasn't held before, you know, that if you're not asserting your own desires or wishes or needs and then resenting your partner or your friend fulfilling the space for you, then it comes back to, okay, well, what do you want that's not this? Listen to a really good cry on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, should we finally talk about the culture rewards?

Or do we have other things to talk about? Okay, so this is, I just because I think it's funny, this is the rest of the stuff that I wrote down as potential topics. And I almost never do this to you guys. But this time I was like, yeah, you know, like let's have a proper culture catch up and talk about all the things. Can you imagine if we commented on Katie Perry and Justin Trudeau's date? I was like, I, I, I, what would, what is there even to be said? Two people connected, okay? Can't people just fall in love?

Yeah, I'm, I, just leave, leave, leave, leave them alone. Can't people just have a fairy tale romance anymore? Leave them alone. Leave them be. And just like that ended. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

It's sad. I think that we will always have sex in the city and Carrie Bradshaw and watching Sarah Jessica's real about, did you watch this? I did, of course. I was so emotional. It was so moving. I was just like, wow. That's one of the best characters in TV.

Honestly, here's what I'll remember about it, just like that. How hard Sarah Jessica Parker tore, especially in that first season, which she ran in and she discovered big in that first episode, I remember, I remember that gagged me, yep, that they did that. So respect on the show's name for that. I will remember Che Diaz. I will remember Miranda as lesbian in this time capsule. You will, you, I will not only remember, you will cherish it.

And I will remember Seema. Yeah, I will remember her. I will remember her. LTW, I won't. But I will remember Seema. Um, I'll remember. Yeah. I remember Kristen Davis.

doing a lot of work opposite animals. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, because remember when we were, like, positing, like, okay, if you watch Kristen Davis and LTW scene like it's the Muppets. Right. It's actually really good. But then that just wasn't the same show as the other characters. But can I say, like, we have not talked enough about Charlotte

and then just like that as a culture. No. Because I think sometimes it's hard. Well, but there's such a reality distortion around Charlotte and in just like that specifically where like you have LTV, like forgetting that her dad died or having two separate fathers who passed away or just whatever, like the whole dad then. Oh my God. But then remember in season one like I took a screen grab of like LJW like holding a phone the wrong way

and she was speaking on it? Then there's just like a bunch of. There's just something bizarre. I will just, we'll just come out and say, there's something bizarre in any of the storylines involving her child, her children. Yeah. Just something, I was like, I don't know what's going on.

It happened in another dimension. This is what I'm saying. It's in another dimension. This is the thing with the LTW and sometimes when LTW is with Charlotte. And this is my opinion. And listen, I'm on the record as saying lots of things. about this show, but this is what I want to leave with.

The number one best thing that this show could have done when it was revealed that LTW had said her father died twice, the number one thing they should have done absolutely immediately and I'm disappointed that they didn't. Because these are not the third graders that I remember.

The third graders that I remember would have made Charlotte wake up in the cold dark of night. She shoots up in bed. She goes, oh my God. Harry says what? What's matter? She goes, I think Lisa Todd has been lying to me.

She said her father died two years ago, but she just said he died again. It can't be right, right? Well, I don't know. Why don't you just talk to her? Okay. She wakes up in the morning. She actually goes over LGW's house. She goes, hey, I just wanted to check in because you said your father died twice.

Lisa Todd Wexley goes, Oh, did I? Excuse me a second. Leaves the room, comes back with a knife. It's like full LTW psycho reveal. Kristen Davis goes, and at this point, it's like, it's an action film. She does a dive roll because LTW is throwing the knife.

She gets a gun, a bazooka. Fuck you, you can't expose me. LTW reveals she's a psychopath. This, if you better not, eating on this mic you're going to give the misophonia girlies a nightmare and a half cover your mouth and I and you did get too high

full psychopath LTW reveal is the only way that that should and it's I'm sorry it could have kept going but I'm not seeing the third graders I remember should we literally just have this episode be the culture catch up and then

do another one that we put out which is the culture awards recap Like, no, literally, like, do it, like, right after this. Like, if, because I don't have that much on here. We did a whole culture catch up. We could in a couple days do the lost culture. Yeah, we're already an hour. We're in an hour, 17 minutes.

Okay, yeah. Let's, let's do, maybe should we do it next week? Should we do what? The culture catchup recap. Because maybe we should do that because it gets more people. Exactly. Exactly. Okay.

Yeah, okay. We're not going to do the culture awards recap this time. Hmm. Guess you'll have to. I guess you'll have to. watch it now. Ooh. This has been a rip-roaring, rollicking one.

Yes. All I have left on my list is two things. Okay. I watch The Hunting Wives on Netflix. Perfect. It's has the, I've only watched one episode so far. It has the potential to go full crazy town. And so I think I'm going to keep going.

I think people are, this is what people are saying. I have not watched it. I will get to it at some point. Malin Ackerman's character, it's, what's that? My laundry. I'm sorry. Oh my God. That beautiful song.

It's really good. Malin Ackerman's character, I can tell, is going to be some sort of femme fatale, really sort of eating and chewing the scenery. You can tell she fucks everybody. And what's Bernie Snow giving? Britney Snow right now is giving. I'm a little bit nervous to be here. And you can tell I have a little bit of anxiety problem.

It's a little bit like meep. You know what I mean? But I think what's coming is going to be. be a full opposite of meep situation. You guys know what meep means, right? Like, meep. Like, you know what? Imagine the face that

Bolin and I are making when we do this. Meep. Like, that, you know what I mean. Like, the least horny thing in the world is to be meep. It's actually like, there's a, there's like a 1 through 10 scale, and at a zero is meep

and out of 10 is horny. Right. Meep. Um, so that's sort of like Britney's to know's vibe in the first episode, but she's absolutely licking her chops at Malin Ackerman who's sort of this like sexy va-va-voom

like... So they're gonna get together? I'm gonna get dressed in front of you like sorry babe like that kind of vibe and we've already seen Malin Ackerman teach Britney Snow how to drive and how to shoot a gun so her fingers are basically already inside her

and I can't wait to see this pop off and I think it's really gonna pop up I didn't realize that's what it was about oh yeah it's like it's I think it's about to be giving like psychosexual lesbian cult great that's at least what the first episode is giving

because Malin Ackerman has like another female friend that you can tell is like obsessed with her and so she's like I'm going to go hang out with Britney Snow and I'll see you later and the other one is like but wait I was supposed to go with you tonight and she's like whatever I'm going to go hang out with Britney Snow

but Malin Malin Malin Malin stop stepping so uncool I'm going to go hang out with Britney Snow and drive and do donuts in a parking lot in my truck

melon and they're and where does the hunting and the wives come in girl that has yet to be seen where are they they're all like they're like they're like

it's more politics like Dylan McDerm not Dylan McDermott Dermott Dermyn Dermott Dermin is like a he's like a guy in Texas who might be thanking her

and running for governor and like this is like his wife is Malin Ackerman and she'll her friends so like we're the wives I see and Britney Snow is like I'm new

but do not eat on that mic you're expecting I'm sorry you're expecting a flip like Britney Snow is going to be like on that bit I think Britney Snow is going to get

to be quite frank with you her pussy eating by Maloney Ackerman. That's the thing that's shot I think that that is going to

unlock Treasures Untold Is Treasures Untold The title of It's the second time It's come up So yes Treasures Untold

I'm sure I'm sure We've used that title in the past Treasure Untold We have high potential now

We're just repeating a title without I don't think Treasures Untold has been a title I'm saying it

I think it sounds like well which means it's a good idea I feel like it sounds so wonderfully non-specific to any other time in our life when we were recording this podcast. I think maybe the word untold. I'm sure untold and the word treasures separately.

Las culturistas. Treasures untold. Treasures. Like we really could. Untold. Okay, let's see. I don't think so. Um, treasures.

No, but there's another podcast called Treasures. Well, it's something to think about, what our title that was going to be. I think treasures untold, maybe exclamation point. How about that? I love that. Treasures untold. Treasures untold. What else is on the list?

The Valley on Bravo, I said, so dark. And this actually does lead into my, I don't think so, honey. That's great, because I knew after season two, episode one, after I started this season, I was like, no, this is going to be too much. When I became a journalist, I was the first. Latina in the newsrooms where I worked. I'm Maria Inojosa. I dreamt of having a place where voices that have been historically sidelined would instead be centered.

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to stories about our cultures and our identities. When you do get a trans character like Imidavetes, the trans community is going to push back on that. Colorism, all of these things like exist in Mexican culture and Latino culture. You'll hear from people like Congresswoman, AOC. I don't want to give them my fear. I'm not going to give them my fear. Listen to Latino USA as part of the My Cultura Podcast Network, available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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rocking the boat, so be it. To hear this and more on the power, black innovation and ownership, listen to Black Tech Green Money from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, Puzzlers. Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings' appearance on The Puzzler with A.J. Jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land? Jeopardy Truthers, who say that you are given all the answers, believe in? I guess they would be

conspiracy theorists. That's right. Are there Jeopardy Truthers? Are there people who say that it was rigged? Yeah, ever since I was first on, people are like, they gave you the answers, right?

And then there's the other ones which are like, they gave you the answers and you still blew it. Don't miss Jeopardy legend Ken Jennings on our special game show week of the Puzzler podcast. The Puzzler is the best place

to get your daily word puzzle fix, listen on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Radhdi Dvlukaya, and I'm the host of a really good cry podcast, and I have the opportunity to talk to Dr. Julie Smith. Julie is a clinical psychologist, a best-selling author, and one of the most trusted voices in mental health online. She was one of the first therapists to use TikTok as an educational platform, and since then she has built a global audience of nearly 10 million people by making emotional support accessible, honest and deeply human. You know, resentment isn't something that the world owes you. It's that, you know, something

that you need to work on. I would say with this stuff is look out for those feelings of resentment because they're a sign that there was some sort of boundary that wasn't held before, you know, that if you're not asserting your own desires or wishes or needs and then resenting your partner or your friend for filling the space for you, then it comes back to, okay, well, what do you want that's not this? Listen to a really good cry on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, I have my I don't think so, honey.

And this is I don't think so honey. It's our segment on the podcast where we take one minute to rant Rail and morgue and something in culture that's been really bad towards us, its own community. And I think in kind of this case, it's both. I think it's bad for the world. Okay, here we go. This is Matt Rogers.

I don't think so when his time starts down. I don't think so, honey, Jack's Taylor, Jacks Taylor discourse, Jacks Taylor on television. It is done. It's a wrap. I know that like it's pretty much already out there, like that it is officially a rap

on the Jacks Taylor of it all. But my God, I think it's actually like just hurting our spirits and souls to watch this. In this world, what we have to really take stock of how we spend every minute of our life because nothing is promised.

Like, you can't spend it watching the Valley. If Jack's Taylor's going to be the center of it. Like, I like a lot of those people. I enjoyed the show the first season a lot. Me too, me too. Just like, God, so dark with Jacks. He's really, really, really brutal towards his wife. And it's just sad because there's kids involved and just like, yikes.

And then elsewhere, you look elsewhere and, like, Jesse and Michelle just trying to ruin each other. Like, really, it's Jesse. Five seconds. But, like, Jesse is awful. It's just the whole thing. Woof. I can't with Jacks anymore. Oh, that's one minute.

Um, no, there's just secondary. I was, I was holding the Jacks thing. Obviously, the Jacks thing is, as you are saying, much darker. But the Jesse Michelle thing graded on me in such a crazy way. It was like, watching the two of them argue or the way they were acting individually or together, I was like, this is intolerable. It's like, it's like, there's, like, there's, nothing. There's no

caloric entertainment value there. It only just makes you feel like empty and bad. Like and also it's like it's a shame because the first season, I don't know what it is sometimes because it's like it might be something with that group in particular. Because like it feels like nothing can be light. Like Vanderpump rules had to end. The valley, I don't know how that continues. It's just like we don't have fun together. Something about that group of people. something. I'm going to

I'm going to like excise Kristen Doty in the way. Like Really? Yeah. I really missed her when she was none of my TV or like just like gone from Vanderpump. Yeah. But like that like I don't know, there's just something about it that's just like oh that's that's that that

that vibration is bringing in. Yeah. It's other other other like behavior like that other bad behavior. There's people on the show that feel low vibration. Yes. Like and Jack The X-to-energy is so dark and evil. I'm just like, ooh.

And then there are people on the show that I really like, like, individually. And, like, you know, like, we love Sheena Shea in this house. But also it's like when certain people are mixed together, like, but we also love, like, Ariadamatics. I'm like, it's like, we watch the show and it's just like, maybe this group of people, like, is too triggered by each other. Because all they know is this reality TV experience of, like, trying to fuck each other. up. So it's like, I'm not saying they're not all individually, like, you know, in most cases,

certainly not Jackson's, but like, you know, should be on television in some way. But I think just this configuration is feeling like it's done. Agree. Yeah, I just, I really gave up a long time ago and I feel bad about it. Don't feel bad because you chose you. Yes. Do you have, I don't think so, honey? I do. Well, it's fabulous because I know everyone's charming at the bits are here. This is Bill and Young's. I don't think so honey is time starts now. I don't think so, honey, email. There have been no real meaningful advancements in you for many, many years. The language around you has gotten only worse. Um, per my last. I'm not going to like rattle off office,

speaking. The way that we as human beings have learned to speak to each other through, because of the formal limitations of email is actually really scary to me. 30 seconds. Like, why do I have to type two full paragraphs of like fluff before I get to the to the meat or the mirror or the bone or whatever of why I'm communicating with you? Like other forms of communication are so much more direct, so much faster. There's an expectation than when someone responds to you. There's none of that in email. It is lawless and it is not advanced. As I've said, meaningfully, there was a time when Google was trying to do Google wave, and that was their answer to innovating on the way email should work, threads and docs

and all these things. It was a huge failure, but email is the kanker in this state. And that is one minute. Okay, so. I'm bad at it, and I didn't even own that. Why do you think you're bad up? Because it is a bad medium. Okay, but when you, can I ask about your thing that you said about, two paragraphs or semi-paragraphs of fluff before you get to the marrow or the meat of your email. That's like a lot of initial emails, right?

Like, especially in our industry. It's like, or do you gotta get right to the chase? I do. You see me emailing. And I was saying, why do I have to do that in a way that is actually not something that I do? I'm saying like I'm swapping myself in as a way to soft in the argument

because it is a bit accusatory. Yeah. Like so many emails that I get are like big, chunks of, you know, just like introductory, lovely pleasantries, which I appreciate and it is a thing that you have to do, but we all feel like it's compulsory because that's, that's what the rules, the quote unquote rules of email are. I'm sick of them. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, like you're talking about the, the pageantry of,

Hi, Bowen. Hope you're well. Hope you're well. And that everything is, yep, yep, has been amazing this holiday. Ugh. Hope you're holding up okay in amidst all this. I hope you're not holding up okay amidst all this is so real. Loopy, following up

adding this person to revisit. There's just bullshit sentences that float around in our brains now because email is fucking dusty. So how would you prefer we act on email? Like if I was to add someone to...

We don't have to do anything about email. There's no getting out. There's no changing it. I'm just saying I prefer, you know, I prefer text. Matt's asking, Matt's acting like I like raised a hand to slap him, but I'm just gesticulating.

It scares me. He scares me. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, text is just so much more direct. There's an expectation, like, within, if I don't respond to you in 24 hours, then something's wrong. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Okay. People can hide in the bushes of emails or strike from the bushes of you. I think we're metabolizing these things differently. I feel like, like if I don't get back to your text, it's like easier for me to get away with that than it is for me to not respond to your email. I feel like an email. I feel like an email is like an official correspondence. It's like I sent you an email. There's like an intention there. I'm with you.

I'm with you. Whereas with text, maybe this is just the way I am about it, but it feels a lot more casual. If I miss your text, if I don't get back to you on your text, a million other things could have happened. If I don't get back to you on email, even more million things could have happened. This is what I'm saying. Like, I don't know why I'm separating these two. I kind of, I kind of see where you're going with this. Because text is more casual, I guess, more person to person direct. I would say, I would say text is less casual. It's more emotion, has a different emotional register for people as they communicate through because having someone's number is a different thing than having someone's email. That's interesting. Do you know what I mean?

So, like, if I have someone's, if I have this person's a number, that it's like, oh, we're, we're bud. This is where, this is where I'm separating from you in the woods, I believe. Okay. Because for me, email is professional and text is personal. So if you have my phone number. I see. I'm with you. And, and you reach out to me and you text me, that to me does not fall on a professional.

It's, if you were to be professional with me over text, that, that would be not inappropriate, but like, I'm, not taking things over text as seriously as I am over email. So maybe that's the separation. Interesting. And I think where the separation is, because I'm with you the whole, the whole way. I'm like, if you reach out to me over email with an official kind of correspondence that I have to like that way through, that I have to wait through and that is actionable for me in some way where I have to like respond. I'm like, I'm just going to let this sit here because I got like more are these coming from people that I, I don't know from fucking yeah. You know what I mean?

And then like I, I'm sure like it's the same for you. Like a lot of these official correspondences, if they do have to do with work and our jobs and like other people mediate that for us. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's why I'm like email is so like low stakes in terms of response for me. It does feel like you communicate on email in a way you never would.

Just talking about me. No, no, no. Generally. Generally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The world. Yes. The world acts on email.

mail like crazy fools like crazy fools like this was like hope you're well the rules of even said hope you're well you'd be like where's the oh you'd be hey where you say hey robot where's stepford wives what you do with my best friend matt rogers where does you do with him and then you see me in the corner oh please you rip off the the duct tape I go oh I'm sorry that's an important thing he went that way your mouth hurt so bad but you can't touch it because you're still um gagged from behind not gagged from behind i guess tied up being tied up is being gagged from behind it's actually realoculture number 59 being tied up is being gagged from behind kind of hot and horny

so listen we both don't think so honey is we've talked about everything in cold I think if we missed something, quite honestly, what I would say to you is, fuck off. Because we really tried very hard today and you broke ass. We broke ass. Okay, well, stay tuned for our recap episode. Yeah, I guess stay tuned for that. Because the thing is, like, there was actually too much pop culture to get to. And I do think it's a good idea to encourage people to still stream the show.

I think so. I don't, I think what's not, it's not spoil the soup. No, we'll spoil the soup next week. This is a reference to the winner of the Matt Rogers Most Matt Rogers Coded Award and a nominee for record of the year. And one thing I will say is that Remy Wolf

absolutely destroyed her performance. And I'm sure that's no surprise. So we'll talk about this next week when the discourse has settled. For now just discourse about everything else. Bye. Oh, we don't, we have end every episode of the song. Oh, my God, you're so right. What the fuck? It's okay. It's okay. Why did you forget?

I'm sorry It's because you're high And I want you to know how many times I've had to stop him from eating on the mic No, no, don't I don't hear We end every episode with the song So Delicious

My body stay vicious I'll be up in the gym Just working on my fitness He's my witness And put them boys on rock rock And they'd be lining down the block Just to watch what I got So delicious

I-I-I-I- Freakilicious. I. I. I. Freakalicious. Fergillicious. That's an insane song.

But it's amazing. It's so good. And remember glamorous? Oh, I love that. Glamorous. I miss glamorous. I miss that year. 2007.

Well, did you know how you used to be able to ride the Hollywood Rip Ride Rocket in Universal Studios, Florida, and play the song, Glamorous? Glamorous by Fergie. You can't do that anymore and also they're tearing it down. Have you thought about that? No, that. I can't think about that. Bye.

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