Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Visual Identity" (w/ Matt + Bowen)

Episode Date: August 19, 2026

Finally, Las Culturistas has a SET... and it has SET... them free. It's a brand new Las Cultch as Matt + Bowen neurally link and ride to the beach, to the stars and to heaven in this long-awaited culture catchup! Bowen discusses taking on the role of Mary Todd Lincoln (!!!) in OH, MARY (or shall we say BO, MARY!?) on Broadway (9/15 - 12/6!!!) and being ridden like a Banshee by a Navi acting coach. The boys discuss the albums of the moment: Confessions II, petal and, of course, C, XOXO, and confront themselves about why they haven't seen The Odyssey. Also, how Zara Larsson could be Jimmy Buffett if she wants, what it feels like to recover from a panic attack just in time for the Hilary Duff concert, and meeting Rosie O'Donnell in the wild... on Broadway! All this, Abdul El Sayed's "Positions" energy, the regional pronunciation of the word "Michigander", and "face acting" in film. All this, a shout out to Disney Cast Member Angel from the Kilimanjaro Safari in Animal Kingdom (we will literally never forget you), a highly awaited discourse on Peacock's SMASH HIT The Five Star Weekend (!!!), and due respect paid to The QVC Woman aka Toni Brattin, who we will hold on to forever. Real Miami girls get it poppin ❤️See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm obsessed. Listen to Pro Society on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Look, Matt. Where? Oh, I see. Wow. Why? Bowen look over there

Wow is that culture Yes Oh goodness wow Las Culturistas Ding dong Las Coulteristas calling Look around At how lucky we are to be alive right now

Why does it feel like a brand new thing? It feels like a... This is episode one of Las Culturistas And we need to take for granted This is yeah this is a first This is a we have never actually had a look. We've never had a visual identity. And therefore, we've never really had an identity.

This podcast, one of the things, it's received critical acclaim. It's won the IHeart podcast of the year award twice. It's never had an identity until today. This is, this is the best set I've ever been on. And that includes Wicked. Yes. And that includes Wicked. Say that again on the mic. This is the best that I've ever been on and that includes Wicked. And we're also talking about the vibes. The vibes in here are better than that of wicked.

Inaburk, Damaris, our amazing production designer, everyone in this room y'all fucking tore this shit up. This is amazing. Round of applause for everybody. This is amazing. Thank you guys. In a second we're going to fly in the champagne, but not before we say this.

There's a fridge here. The thing is, we're living in a post there's a fridge era. look what he's got and by the way we haven't been recording live because we took a little break the amount of times

that Celsius has come up on this podcast why aren't we the face of Celtsis? I don't think they're too I think they must have some exclusivity with the Theo Vons of the world where they're like we can't give those gay guys well one thing I'll say is we really are giving it away for free

we are we're just And yeah. Meanwhile, like, we slay an ad read. Listen, if you write us a good, if you write us a good ad. And if you, if a human being writes us an ad. Which is what brings us to the topic of the episode, which is AI. Wait. We obviously are.

What is that? No. Today, this morning, Greta shows me some girl, random girl, God bless her. Love random girls on the internet. Well, Greta just goes, you need to see this. it was a girl at the beach going I mean can we just pause for a second on how terrible data centers are and just say please pick up your trash off the beach

and that'll make things a little better She wants to start at the very beginning She wants to she's at day one So many things we haven't figured out yet Before we move on to data centers Which is so complicated We can all agree pick up your trash on the beach I

And she's not wrong but she's not right. I have to tell you, there are so many people out there who are so incredibly wrong whilst being incredibly right. Us? We're wrong all the time.

You'll see today many times. You ask for a culture catch up, you're going to get one. And let that be the occasion. Let that be occasion. And speaking of occasions, let's fly in the flutes and the shams. It's the reason for the season.

Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you, Kate. Everyone be careful. Everybody can be careful. They didn't make the set safe for us babies. Okay, Vov-Click-Co, I feel like Mariah. And it's the 30th anniversary of Daydream.

A Daydream. Oh, and there's an amazing... Thank you. Thank you, sir. Love when a handsome guy pours me shamps. Well... We have to usually go to some sort of airline for that. Yes.

Talk to one of those gay guys who run the show. Oh, flight attendant. That's what they're called. That's what they're called. To them? to us and to... Day one of this podcast. Day one of this podcast.

And we said maybe this is the 500th. Yes. Well, can't we go. I bet we're closer to 600 than we are 500 at this point. It's so crazy. We haven't said something yet. It is, can I say, I'm now clocking minutes into this podcast. It's so crazy that the first thing that happened that we've already cheered.

And if you think we're not going to cheers again, you're deeply mistaken. You're one of the wrong people. people. Bowen will be starring in O'Mary as Mary on Broadway! Klink for a third time! I don't want to talk about it. No, I'm happy to talk about it. Don't ask them about its process, you vultures.

I'm happy to talk about my process. Can we, though? Because I've known about this now for... It's been months. It has been a very long time. And it's hard. It's hard not to say that Boone Yang is in O'Merry. The, I had, you know, I had to like lie a bunch.

Yeah. I had to do the thing where people were like, I heard and I'm like, oh no, it fell through. It's, it felt. Oh, you went as far as to say, confirm. So in the reality, you confirmed it had happened and it fell through. That, because I was like, that's the best way to sort of. Most credible. It's most credible because Sam put the fear of God in me.

He was like, it was just such a bummer because Maya, the news about Maya leaked before we announced. and it was just a real fucking bummer. And I was like, oh, no, I better keep this under wraps. I'd been telling everyone. Yeah. How soon after you found out, dude, I know. About. I'm also trying to figure out when you told me.

It was like a week after, because you were still, you were in L.A. Like, I wanted to tell you in person. Fitting off. Flitting off. Flitting off in L.A. God knows what. What have you been doing in L.A.? We're not talking about me yet.

Don't worry, guys, soon. You're getting some of me. But, okay, so you're saying process. Process. So literally could not have happened without you. What? Because who do we run into at the Tonys? But the queen, Michelle Uranowitz.

Yeah. So I knew Michelle from school. She was a standout actress. She's become your acting coach in this regard. She's become the... The girl. The movement queen. throws she throws she holds classes for anybody yes um uh through via tish i believe yeah i've only ever

known her as being the coolest person i've been in a room with when i was in a room with her and then actually we had never really met until that night i didn't really meet her i didn't really meet her until like the summer either right and so then i am thrilled to hear i think because i told you i had this great conversation with her that you were going to work with her for O'Mary. You inspired me. I'm happy to inspire. Always happy to inspire. But you always do.

Okay, so you've been cracking shit open or what? Yes. And this woman, she gets elemental with it. Because I've, like, I've, like, worked with people before, like, in a coachy capacity. Yeah. And it's been great. It's just, like, I walk away from them being like, okay, I think I get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but this year's really getting it.

I'm so. in the pocket is not the right term I just I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm nerily linked she I am her Banshee she is my avatar She is my Noggyz righting you But you're nerily linked I am nerily

Could it be a word? We'll find out It is a word NERALOS NERAL yes N-EU That's like a startup but yes R-A-L-Y N-U R-A-L-L-Y Yeah you got it

When are we doing Oh wait a minute Trusting you An adverb, meaning in a way that relates to nerve, nerve system, or electronic... An adverb. Absolutely. We are nerily connected. It's actually rural culture number three.

We are nerily connected. Who's the banshee? Who's the Navi? This is so fascinating to think about. I think we're the brain. You look, and this is a compliment, you look like a navi. I've been told this so many times. And it came up again, obviously, because we did go to the world.

And we'll get to it. Again, soon, don't worry, guys, because you're going to. get a lot a little bit more of me and Disney updates but first this so that's all I'm just I'm so excited yeah um yeah so you're nerily linked to someone who is guiding you to yes to the beach in an avatarian Navian sense because where do they go in flight of passage they go to everywhere they go everywhere oh you guys in flight of passage and we're going to get more into it in a little bit but they go everywhere the beach they go over the Beech the Cave. Heaven. Heaven. Now, and funnily enough, she also worked with Miss Betty Gilpin,

who you have to watch Widow's Bay. All I've heard is that, okay, so I want to say two things. One, I will watch this because it's your, it's so for you. It's like the hunt. I'm incapable of resisting the idea of Betty Gilpin's slaying. So that's why I watched the hunt. You said this about Lady Gaga, during art pop era when you were like, yeah, yeah, I like Gaga. But you said the words, I will always be interested in what she's doing. You remember that I said that?

By the way, I was like, what, like 22 years old? I'm saying I will always be interested in what Lady Gaga is doing in art pop era. That means a lot. Can I say I was recently confronted about what my top three Gaga albums were? Okay.

You can't take Art Pop out of that top three. No way. You can't. You can try physically. to attack me, I have studied the ways in which people try to wrestle art pop from a little monstrous top three. You won't be getting that here. I don't think that happens anymore. Well, not anymore.

But back in the day, we've had to be very vicious in our defense. I think we're going to have this treatment to Kromatka. I already see it starting, and I'm not interested in having the conversation. But just know, I'm learning how to defend myself against the attacks. less they come. So Widows Bay. Should they come? Widows Bay, I think you would enjoy.

I have to. I have to watch it. I will say people don't necessarily understand how sensitive I am when I say I'm sensitive because I had a what? Panic attack before the Hillary Duff concert because someone described to me the Perez Hilton video. Someone described it to me? Which was their first mistake. I hit the ground.

This was a good friend of yours who should have. known not to go into detail about the Perez-Holten's self-mutilation. Dave Mazzoni doesn't know better than to not do that at this point, and that's why I love Dave. Because he will just be himself, no matter what, always. I love the man. Love him. He, I was, I'm like, didn't he know that you were a little bit stoned?

Can we reveal? Well, let's just say, I was at one of, I was at one of my favorite restaurants. Before seeing one of your favorite artists. Before seeing our girl. I'm so sad I couldn't go. Bowen got sick. I got sick. You think Disney Germans were the culprit.

But then none of y'all got sick. Melissa got sick. I think there's something tactile. And I do want you to say we're making a lot of people brave today. Born This Way Foundation. One of the things about this podcast, Last Culture Recess, is it's one of the key elements of the Born This Way Foundation. And we've been working with Cynthia for years. Oh my God.

By the way, I know we're going to talk about the girls today, but I just want to say, I'm having such a gaga moment again. Yeah. I'm just, I'm... What brought this on? I don't know. Can I tell you something? You were watching interviews of her. You know how there's famously three eras, circus, surveillance, well, Christmas.

And then there's another one. Circus surveillance and Christmas. Circus surveillance Christmas. And then like summer. Like summer. Sure. Like, Zara Larson right now. and maybe forever.

I do think Zara Larson should be summer forever and I'm going to tell her that when she comes. Because I think she has an opportunity if she wants to be Jimmy Buffett coded. And someone should take that lane. I don't want it to have to be me. No, and it should be a Swedish person.

I'm just saying Zara Larson at this rate could have a Margaritaville if she wants that. She's funny enough. She gives you... It's the C-Sherner. shells, it's the delectable pop. Yeah, it's the delectable.

It's like a Swedish gummy. So I guess what I'm trying to say is I just, I feel like when I'm listening to Gaga, I'm having more fun. And a lot of the girls right now are discussing in their music, lyrically, this is how I feel about my station in the public eye. Authenticity, which plays into surveillance, which we are now, which is bearing down on all of us. And I think it's like, it's kind of like sometimes they all get the same idea, but in different ways.

Because I think it's obviously a cultural response. And I think they're all sort of responding to comment and perception culture at the same time. It's the Taylor, Charlie, R. Ari trifecta at this moment. Yeah. They're all at this time have recently like gone about authenticity and their own individual. ways. Yes. And so mayhem was just a moment a bit ago that we weren't doing that.

I will also say this opens up a huge avenue for me to be enjoying the fuck out of conventions too, which we have not discussed on this podcast because we haven't not had the opportunity to do so. Exactly. Exactly. Dan Citeria feels like a song we've always had. Well, it's

Vogue New. Basically. It's like these are the names of people I love and here we go and this was the vibe at Densitia. I hope that if I ever run into Debbie Mazar on the third floor, that whatever we're doing turns into a party. Well, Debbie, I have to imagine that Debbie's a little bit like, fuck.

Now this is what everyone's going to be saying to me for the rest of my life. Do you think she's mad, though? Where did the champagne go? Oh, no, no. So you brought it all the way over there. I think Debbie and Madonna have a really, I'm just going to, I'm totally conjunction. Just because Debbie Mazar came up,

I feel like I should have a full champagne glass. I think Debbie and Madonna have such a beautiful and also complicated. Thank you. Thank you so much. Oh my God. We also have to talk about speaking of beautiful and complicated relationships with Madonna. We also have to talk about who we ran into literally the other night after a little shop of horrors when we went to, yes, say it with us. Bars and Trial. Rosie. Rosie. O'Donnell. We just ran into her. And the first thing she says to us is she looks at Matt. She goes, you said that nice thing about me at the Tonys. And then I grabbed both.

And then I grabbed both her hands in line. Both. And I clutched them and I said, I did. And it's because I love you so much and you should have been up there. And then she was like, she was like, you know, that was very kind. She didn't like agree and say, yeah, I should have. That did not happen. She remained graceful.

I don't think she wants to be on a stage. I think she's fine with being on and watch what happens. Yeah. I don't think she wants to be on a huge platform. on display like that. So that like the, you know, the people that she's dealt with. 100%. I do just think sometimes, and don't worry, because we then quickly pivoted to how much she needs to come on the podcast. And I do think we'll have a time with her.

I think we would have a time. But I will say that we would I think benefit from the healing moment that would be restoring Rosie O'Donnell to a place where she can entertain us en masse because I think she's one of the most important and effortless comedian slash host and who really put that first part first that we've had the privilege of being able to have access to and the fact that our access to her was just cut off for me is shitty. I agree. I think a lot of the cutoffness is her. own choice. Sure.

And I don't think we should force her out into the open. Although, it's an invitation at least to come here. Of course. Although she did. Take our show. She did. It did surprise me and delight me that she was so flattered by your comment. First of all, and I realized you hadn't met yet.

You had never met her. So I turned out, I'm like, do you know Bowen? And then she said, I believe you guys clasped both hands. I don't remember. blocked out. As in like I was emotionally. Now let me correct the record. No, I was not, I was not on anything. I was just, I was just, I was very emotional

meeting her. I, for some reason knew that you would feel that way. It's Rosie O'Donnell. Not since Meredith Marks, have I been so sure that you would need encouragement. I was thinking about you. What? That you would need encourage, that you were

so overwhelmed after meeting Rosie the rest of that. No, I honestly like, It must be the medication talking Because I am not nervous anymore To like, hey, like, I don't know I would have went under the table two years ago I love this Under the table

Was that is that anything It must be the medication talking Is that anything? Sounds like Jimmy Buffett Well, Jimmy Buffett could never She was never on meds And I want to just respectfully Because I realize what I just did

I said Jimmy Buffett could never after I sang. That wasn't the way Jimmy Buffett sang. But it sounds like meatloaf Jimmy Buffett. It's like some kind of... It was kind of giving... Not Kenny Rogers, but not not. You know what I mean? Who sang, On Zoom stream.

Yeah, Kenny Rogers, right? Why? Where are my Kenny Rogers people? I'm looking at every single person in the eyes and it's like, oh, there you are, Becker Ramos. There's my Kenny Rogers, Gurley. song, there is none. Well, I knew what I was doing was brand new. I was just asking, is it anything like, is it a hit? It is not a hit.

You, it is not a hit. Your next album is supposedly about vacation. But I think you can make it a, you can sort of fold in the surprise, which is it's about being medicated. Well, I'm going to Grand Rapids for four days to see the boys actually over a labor due weekend. That's so nice. I may actually put a pen to paper.

I love that. You should go to Saga Talk. What's that? I think it's the gay lake. It's the Epcot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, and Dentatoria. Did we talk enough about Madonna?

Probably not. Probably not. I mean, I don't fuck with it. Amazing. Well, I just, I will, one of my favorite moments ever I'm realizing was just her on that German show being like, I have a problem with the fact that I, that it's hot and there's no air in here. I'm suffocating. I'm suffocating.

Open the door now. It's unbelievable. And the best part, she says it for the end. She says it for the end. And then what she goes, just give me a fan. Just give me a fan.

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We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head, right? How about we flip the script? What is the surprise woman? Actually, you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird. Adam Scott. This entire time, you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show.

I would never expect. I have. I would never set expectations for something like that to happen. If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept. You know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you. I was like, I was like, is that weed? Nope, it's fragile masculinity. Man Stiller, no. Because a lot of times out of context, people don't get it or even know it's a circle. is. You know what I mean?

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I love it here. Did you change everything for the better? Why am I about to burst into tears? So emotional. So the medication is not stopping you from feeling emotion. Well, yeah. I mean, I could certainly still have a panic attack. Yet with the way I hit the ground to say nothing of by the, by the way, I was back in like 30 minutes.

And I, that Hillary Duff show looked amazing. She brought a good Charlotte. She's saying, she brought out. They sing the anthem part two. Yes, they did, Bowen. Part one that goes, This is the anthem. Throw all your hands up.

Yo! So good. Don't want to be you. Which, by the way, kicked off a whole couple days of nostalgia listening for me. I ended up listening to Yellow Card. Oh, wow. Last night, can I just say something? Broken these fragile things now.

And I can't. I can't pick up the pieces. We really. we had a really nice because like we were we were forced to listen to a bunch of different shit all the time yeah we had eclectic taste because

you had to use the radio and they had to answer a lot of people yeah yeah okay oh by the way she was amazing why is roommates the best song why is mature still the best song by the way you know who we were next to Doug Peck oh just love being at a show with Doug Peck

because I look over during the singing and he opens up his eyes to be like yeah Michelle Uranowitz is the dugpack of acting to me really good to have that person in your life which she legends who know the fucking craft what are you most excited about doing in O'Mary is there the I hired another coach actors accent access she's a she's a lady who lives

in the UK And for the audition, I was like, I want to go scouse or Brummie, Birmingham or Liverpool. Got it. Even though in the script, it does say cockney. And Sam, if you want to push back on this and rehearsal. So you haven't yet had this conversation. I'm prepared to do it scouse. I'm prepared to do it, Liverpool.

I think that that would be good. Even just from hearing you say that one word, I think it'll be good. I think you need to follow your heart. Because the way a scouse person would say. bow she would go rip the trousers it's like almost it's Scottish it's it's very groundskeeper Willie yeah um I'm excited to do that I'm excited to do the medley have you medley I'm so nervous but yes I'm so excited why are you nervous it's just a lot it's just a big old I mean it's it's just it closes out I mean not to spoil but it's just it's an amazing it is a reverie like

I have to have to meet it at the reverie. Anyway, September. 15th through December 6th. Through December 6th. I will not be on October 3rd and 4th. What's happening then?

My dad is getting an award for engineering in Washington, D.C. And I, he's treating it like the biggest honor anyone's ever received in the history of the world. Which it kind of is. And I love him. So what will happen then, Hannah Solo will. Hannah Solo will tread the board. You're going to get to spend so much. I can't wait to hang out with him.

That's what I'm most excited. you're going to be inseparable. That's what I'm most excited about is hanging out with Hannah and, like, Julian and like, Barrett and Philip, like, everybody. Like, I'm so, like, that is such a great group. I went to go to, I met them at Dintai Fung one day. Uh-huh. Because it was Simu's last weekend, and Simu took them all out, because Simu was

Mary's teacher, and Simu took them all out to Dintyfong. And he was a come, and I was like, and that was right when I was like, I think I'm going to do it. And we all ate dumplings together. And it was just such a sweet vibe. They were like, we love every, like everyone just loves each other. It's so cute. And then they, like, like, Meg's having a great time with them. It looks like it.

I mean, they're up to their antics. They're up to their antics. I do have to go see that. I have, God, I have, it always feels like, um, you turn the corner and there's a, because now they announced Lolly is going to do it in the UK. And I was supposed to, I'm also bummed. I'm not going to be able to see Ari's tour. I was supposed to go to the UK.

No, I'm not, not going anymore. Darn it. Yeah, she's singing pedal. I know she's singing some of pedal. So shall we about pedal? Absolutely. Petal. For me, it's like horny enough where it satisfies

the pop star Ariana thing. Yes. And like, I don't know, lyrically, like, is it actually this feral thing that's saying everything and going no holds barred? No. But she, the way that she kind of like characterizes.

her audience here, which is like that perceptive, the people that are talking about her, works as Ariana Grande as well. Like like I do in big feelings, I think are about the subject of the audience, but she's able to map them in ways that I really enjoy. Yes.

Ariana Grande doing it. I think the feralness, the feral, if that's the right word, the noun, I think that is in the conception of it, but I think in the, execution of the album, it is like about restraint.

Right. She like, she's going to belt at the fucking show. She's not going to belt. She's going to keep it well placed and ethereal on the track. Yeah. It is in conflict very purposefully with the production as in like the noise, which is like what this album is about. It's about her versus the noise of being like one of the most like, like,

talked about people. Yeah. And pretty genius, I think. And I think a lot of people have a lot to say about, like, what is she singing about? What is she frustrated about? That she's not being specific enough. But I feel like the specificity is all projected in that it's, like, already preconceived by the, by the audience.

It would feel cheap if she were to come out and be like, this is what I'm... This is exactly how I feel. I feel like what makes her the daughter of Mariah to me is that in retrospect, correct, Mariah still allowed you to project a lot onto her early media. She never sang about Tommy. She was never like Tommy's doing this to me. It was like even in butterfly and

all through emancipation even how she was feeling about her circumstances because Mariah just as much as Ariana was picked the fuck apart and always found her craft to be her like guiding light through that. So for me it's like the way that Ariana is also the daughter of Mariah

is she's thinking about things in a more artistically and musically, holistic way. Ariana Grande knows what her voice can do, just like Mariah did. And she's escaping a track. Like Ariana Grande is saying, this is the way, because I think she's even said that her most... Her actual talent is not her voice, even though she knows it's technically special, her real talent is her ear. Yeah, her voice is not her only instrument. Yeah, yeah. And so she's using the instruments.

that she has at her disposal as a producer to create this thing. And to me, it's like, that's why she's just, like, far and away the most technically proficient and therefore inventive pop star that we have. That's why she's on Ableton or Logic or whatever. Yeah. Like, that's, like, she's, she gets, she's in flow state because this is her real art. Right. It's putting, is putting these sounds together.

That's why, like, that, that video goes viral of her doing positions. Yeah. Where she's layering and she's, like, move that back. I want to come in on that. Like, it's, yeah. She, she's, she gets all galaxy brain with that. Yeah. I think that is what people are maybe not totally bringing to the fore with this

conversation. It's like, this is all incredibly by design. She's been recording since January, February. The songs are, the songs are very adaptable to her and the audience, right? Yeah, you, you want to look back on these albums and be like, able to project on them. You don't want them to feel dated or like they're trapped in time, which like, I don't know. I don't think everyone is as successful as she is when they try to tackle the perceptions. And when an artist decides, okay, like right now what I'm going to focus on is everyone else focusing on me, that is tough to accomplish because you don't always succeed in not just feeling like a total narcissist who has all these tools at their disposal.

Like she's creating a lot of stuff. Like I don't need to know anything about her to have sex to like I do. You know what I mean? Like I don't care. That's also, I'm on the record that Positions was my fuck album of the pandemic. You've said that. I don't need to know anything about. It was everyone's fuck album.

Not like me. If you had seen me. Positions was my election album, unfortunately. An election and sex. Because it came out around November 2020. I mean, it certainly did. Well, what was my election album? We all had one.

Everyone says song of the summer, bitch. What's your album of the election? That's Rulogoldo culture number eight. Everyone says song of the summer, bitch, what's your album of the election? I mean, I will say that I've never seen such a positions-esque candidate than Abdul al-Said. What does that mean? What I'm saying is I think that people saying he reminds them a moment. of Obama.

I think what you're saying is you are attracted to this political candidate at this moment. And he's also inspiring in an actual way. You want to take your oven mitt. Your mitten or whatever they call it in Michigan.

I think they call it all sorts of weird things. I'm so happy to have a break from discourse where you hear this word said this way. Michiganer. I don't think we're having a break from that. I don't think we're having... Never shade.

We're about to go into an election. The primary is over. So aware of that. But Michigan is very... And you're about to go there. I am going to go to Grand Rapids. But I'm going to see people who don't say it like Michigander. How are you supposed to say it?

I'm sorry. Well, I mean, I'm not here to teach a Shakespeare. Act class about Michelle Uranowitz herself. Movement and more. Move it and more. But I will say something like, this would be nice. Missichander. Michiganer.

Michiganer. You want to be a little British inflection Madonna with it. Get me, just get me a fan. Just get me a fan. Michiganer. She's a Michigan. She's a Michigan. Oh, that goes back to Madonna slash Michigan.

It's actually real culture number six. Madonna is a Missigander. Is a Michiganer. I can't even think to answer a question. I can't even think to answer a question. So funny. She's so funny. Okay, we have to reveal something.

What? we actually were supposed to host her album release party in New York and she was coming on the pod and unfortunately it didn't work with her dates they had to move around and we were because we needed a break we were committed to having a break in July and the break was an occasion for the set to be built it was the reason for the season that is the set I just want to say get into it I was real can I kind of scared you will feel so the entire time we were in the black sort of liminal space. The void.

The void. You were like, I don't, I don't know. And I was like, I don't know. I think it works. It's very like anti-set. Like every podcast is a set right now. I think ours, it's so refreshing that ours is just black curtains and white chairs. I never liked it.

And I, and I have to agree. But I'm always willing to try things, gentlemen. I just, I want to apologize. You don't have to apologize to me. because it's good that we tried. Everything happens for a reason. Are you, is this clocking to you? You said to me after you

panic attacked to the Perez-Hulton moment. And then rallied for each stuff. And rallied for each stuff. I was like, oh my God, are you okay? I can't believe that happened. I'm so sorry, you said, sometimes it doesn't clock to people

that I'm so sensitive. And I was kind of a bitch and I was like, yeah, it really doesn't clock to people. Yeah, but then I'm, on the ground like in Soho fully me on the ground in Soho it took me three tries to get up were you all like like

I'm all because someone simply described what happened So then it was so ho It was so ho like at like Like during like happy hour time I would describe the time as being 6.15 p.m. Yeah you were on the ground

and people were just kind of walking past you They hate me in the streets bowen but when they hate me in the streets they see me coming in the streets the streets the streets are a little bit the streets are a little bit suffused with something manic right now oh you don't say could it be

Amazon like humidity which was something I saw actually reported but they described it that way let me also get you into my perspective on this I I'm at, I get a text again at a time I would describe a 6.15 p.m. From my friend, Alyssa.

Oh my God, I have a random ticket that I got. I have random extra ticket to Olivia Rodriguez. Amazing. Pop-up show at Warsaw in Greenpoint. Tiny. Tiny space. Tough. I go there.

Olivia, you are the girl. You are the one. It was 110 degrees in the space. I suspect that she cut a few songs from her showup. I have a feeling because she didn't play vampire. Didn't play vampire and didn't play begged. Didn't play begged and didn't play vampire. That's not to say that the set list wasn't incredible.

She's now at the point where she's got three excellent albums and things are going to get cut. I commend her for cutting the show short. Someone I was with was mad that she chose to do making the bed instead a couple of things. And I was like, you better let that girl do making the bed if she wants to do making the bed. Let her do making the bed. Also another thing I love about that crowd. not kids. Because you go see Olivia Rodrigo

in concert and it's like, okay, there's kids screaming. You never know. This was like cool Brooklyn people in their 20s and 30s. Warsaw. Greenpoint. She was great. It was 120 degrees. And then I looked it up and they were like, oh, it's because temperatures are coming up from South America

up the East Coast. Like, I guess there's some weather event happening where it's like bringing Amazon -esque humidity to New York. Like the other night it was the Amazon. Yeah, it was the Amazon. At the Olivia Rodrigo concert. It was the Amazon when I went to go see Shmigadoon.

If there's a place to be while there's Amazonian humidity in New York City. It's seeing a delightful show. It's at the Niederlander. It's at the Niederlander. I was seeing Shumogoodoo. Excellent show. It was very, very gagged. They, I mean, they put on quite the show there.

Anna Gastier. Yeah, she's kind of a lethal weapon of being funny and dumb. I was like, I can't believe I'm, I don't know, I'm gagged. I know, and then you talked to her after her. She's like, hey. How are you? Yeah. She met my parents. That was a delight. I know her kids names, Francis, Ulysses. Her kids are icons.

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Adam Scott. This entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never expect. I have. I would never set expectations for something like that to happen. If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm. I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept.

You know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity. Exuding. I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you. I was like, is that weed? Nope, it's fragile masculinity. Ben Stiller, no. Because a lot of times, out of context, people don't get it

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And I wrote down, I will literally never forget you. We went on the Kilimanjaro Safari at the Animal Kingdom. A ride that some might say you kind of do to pass the time if you're waiting for flight of passage. No. Not anymore. I hadn't been on the Kilimanjaro Safari ride for many years. It's at Disney's Animal Kingdom. should you want to go on?

We were rained out. Not rained down. What happened was Avatar went down, okay? And sometimes rides, they go down. Totally. And it's not an indictment. It's just what happens sometimes with these technological marvels.

And so we had time. We had time. We went on the Expedition Everest. We had one friend with us, Patrick Foley. He didn't do so well on it. But the start of his arc was beautiful. That was the start of his arc. and he was loving life.

Loving life on Detron twice. Adored Guardians of the Galaxy, Cosmic Rewind. Yeah. And then, but then, no, to wait for our time, flight of passage, we went on the Kiliman Dara Safari tour. Our driver and our guide. We were the luckiest people. Star cast member.

Angel. Throughout the entire property. Literally named Angel. Named Angel. saying things like I was hoping to see these girls referring to flamingos. Yeah, I was hoping I was to see these ladies.

I was hoping I would see these ladies. Or a group of elephants. Oh, I'm over there having a key. Look, those elephants are having a key. What else did he say? And then, no, there was one moment where we were about to start the tour and we were kind of, you know, feeling our oats.

We were like, excited for the, not the tour, Safari. Which, by the way, it's actually really culture. It's really culture number five. A safari is a tour of animals. The animals.

So we finally start, and before he's about to pull us into the safari area, he goes, and I can't even lie to you, I'm actually really excited. And then... The best.

And then towards the end, we see a wild ostrich. Walking alongside us Kind of like showing off Angel says Ooh look at hers Stopped the runway And then

As we disembark We all gave Angel a huge A round of applause Huge A star Because we also saw So many animals It was a little overcast

We saw a lion The lion was crazy The lion perched We were like This is crazy Apparently that is the time to go If it is overcast This vibe

There were zebras This is a pillow on the new set I don't know what to do with it And I was saying it's too specific to be AI It's too like a pink zebra with like I just Goat horns Can I can anyone answer

Where this came from Well ask Damros This we have to know more about We have to know about the artist You know what I mean Like we have to know more about this Because it's like everything is so And there's a lot of

Jungle like animals in here. It's kind of giving the Kilimanjaro Safari. I wanted the panther. I requested a panther. Yes, yes. What about her? Is this a monkey?

That's a monkey. Yeah, there's a lot of animals. Oh, there's a whale tail? Whale? My favorite. A responsible way. And then obviously these. Okay, so anyway.

So, okay, so then as we disembark, yeah. We applaud Angel. We say, we love you, Angel. Amazing job, amazing. That is the time to go on the Kilimanjara safaris when it's overcast, because the animals are out.

Yeah. Angel says these words. I will literally never forget you. I will literally never forget you. And I was like, that is an ear hit for the ages. I went on the Disney app. I left a great comment from Angel. And I left a comment.

I commended Angel. I had never done this before in my life. Angel, if you're listening, anyone who works at WDW, please send this along to Angel at Animal Kingdom. You have to, like, if you get Angel driving your safari. know that you will literally never forget. And I also want to say thank you to what we went there and we met Imagineering.

We met Imagineering. We did the rock and roller coaster starring the Muppets. So we are, the occasion for going was after we had a, after it was our honor to host Miss Piggy at the Culture Awards to promote the rock. The honor was ours. The honor was ours to promote the rock and roller coaster starting the Muppets. Disney Imagineering invited us to the parks. they did and then gave us an amazing experience.

We did do the rock and roller coaster. Fabulous. And it was fabulous. I, we had one thing after, which was where was Miss Piggy? Found out. She's in the pre-show. She's in the pre-show. You get a different pre-show.

Our pre-show featured Kermit. Yes. And I was happy to see him. He was very happy to see Kermit. And don't worry because this is why you do repeat writings. This is the way do you repeat writings? That's how you get Miss Piggy. And I have to say Kermit is dressed in a hoodie.

Yeah, Kermit looked hot in it. Kermit looked hot. Not me thinking Kermit was hot watching the pre-show of rock and roller coaster starring the Muppets. And then Kermit comes up and you're like interested. Kermit with the kind. And I was kind, like. Kind eyes and a big mouth. You know who kind of gives Kermit?

Phrase. Fraser Oh Kind of gave Kermit Yeah You know what I mean Like in so many ways In all the best ways

Really sweet So sweet I know A little slip of a thing Oh Yeah he's Kermit That makes you He's kind of Kermit

That made you Peggy I absolutely miss Piggy Hmm Hiya Hiya It's all good there by the way I know Everything's wonderful

It was just literally open up the phone when will I see you next never well you're like okay isn't there can you say in our 30s isn't there nothing better than like an amicable separation there is no room for anything

but that yeah well and it it would bum me out so much to have like that go down again but I will say I'm definitely dating again because I went out the other night and I don't like this guy well I had one of the it was one of the world Worst kisses in recorded history, and it did happen in Central Park, and he also did that little bit of a thing.

And lovely guy. Yeah. But a little bit of a thing where there was like some weird little choking. Hands on the clavicle. And I was like, it was just like, wait a minute. Well, this is dating in New York. Sometimes you die in Central Park. I wanted this lifestyle.

Move back. That Carrie Bradshaw lifestyle. Sometimes you're just getting a little choked out. A choke on the first... Central Park itself. A choke on the first kiss is really wild stuff. Which was going bad. In public.

Which was going bad. I mean, no, no, no. Don't worry. It was in a place in Central Park that was extremely private. No one would have known if I had died. Right. And he did say... He did that thing that sometimes happens.

Mm-hmm. When you're on a date, when you're, let's say, Matt Rogers. Yeah. Or someone with a podcast. cast he goes and I'm not a fan I'm not a fan and I was like oh okay because I did have to ask because I did one time go on a date I was dating someone who about six dates in was like I'm obsessed with was like I actually have to tell you something I'm a huge right right right

that's allowing me to like have said so many things right it's not like with you where it's like you're Bowen Yang and so they know who you are like I occupy a different tier, which is like, they may not. So when I'm on a date with someone having a nice time, I do sometimes, I'm like, can I just ask you, like, what is the familiarity with me? Because I believe anything. Totally. And he let me know that he was not a fan and that I was like, as a C-list celebrity,

I kind of have to ask. And he, and I didn't know if it was a joke or not, I was like, I would say you're more D-list. And I was like, work. That's his way of flirting. But for me, I think it was like a way of flirting. and I was just like, oh, maybe that's funny. But then minutes later, I would have a terrible kiss and be getting choked.

So it's like... For the maybe that's funny. Like, that's... Don't worry. I hung out with him for two more hours. We're so back. There's literally... Celeste said this when you were telling us this over drinks the other night.

They were like, you can just like end the date early. Just be like, I got to go. Can I tell you something? I wasn't having like a bad time. Totally. But it doesn't need to be a bad time. for it to be like, this is a waste of time. I didn't even think it was a wasted time.

You know what it was like? It's like, you know when you're on a date with someone and you're like, this is weird, but it could become suddenly hot at any moment, which usually just means, let me drink more. You know what I mean? It usually just means like maybe what I should do is just wait this out,

to see if it gets interesting, aka I get drunk. Right. And then I remembered, oh right, I'm 36, not 26, despite the fact that everyone on every dating app is 26. So you can change your age range. Got to figure out how to do that, I guess.

Yeah, yeah. Because definitely certainly most deaf, I'm seeing all 26-year-olds. And they're all in private equity. Which did you hear? Is the hot new accessory this summer, a private equity boyfriend? Hot new. Hot new accessibility.

Accessity. Hot new accessory. is of course the private equity boyfriend. I love that. Love what they do, which is to kind of drive down value. Well, I think it's like a right of passage to tell everyone what you stand for

and then go opposite all of that because of dick. It happens all the time. Yeah. And I think we should... Allow people to do it once, maybe twice, depending on the dick. They can do it a couple. couple times. Yeah. You get to do it. You get to be, like you get to be Laverne Cox, you get to date a cop, just to try it. Yeah. You know, I completely understand that thing of being attracted to.

She didn't did a cop. She just dated a MAGA person. Well, I thought she dated a MAGA cop. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. I go. I get being attracted to something you absolutely should not be attracted to. And it must suck to be in the... the public eye and also have that like thing where you don't want to shut down your life or you don't want to you know and then all of a sudden like oh yeah you made that mistake you're supposed to make in private you fucked that person you're supposed to be fucking in private and you're in public so now you're kind of down to the thing this is what I'm saying this is the authenticity trap and people who listen to this podcast love that word yeah um it's it's giving surveillance state oh big pot it's like hold on

Why the fuck am I supposed to like, it's fear of being seen, it's the anxiety of being seen. It's like, which we're all sort of like, it's like, reject all cookies. Yeah. Because to be seen is to be judged, which is to be, you know,

perceived and then understood as being something that didn't. And most likely it's a misunderstanding. Right, right, right. So anyway, whatever. But that's interesting to even think about the fact that like that's what everyone it feels like is talking about right now.

in art because I do feel like all the, like, you know what I mean? Like, even in a weird way in films, like with like disclosure day and stuff. It's like, it's like if people knew everything, this isn't exactly a good one-to-one, but it is like. No, no, no, but it's, it's pretty applicable. It's about how people might feel if they had the real or the right information. Yes. And it's like, that's kind of interesting in our culture that that's even such a topic.

It's like, we know this and you know this. and that is the tension that exists in everything. Yes. Is it like, you know, this lack of understanding. Despite almost total knowledge or something. Right. Or not almost total, but just like a set of facts that like people, I haven't seen the movie.

Me neither. Can I tell you what's driving me? Actually, it was going to be my ad. I don't think so, honey. Maybe it still will be. When people will talk about someone's, when people talk about someone's face acting that's distracting

Zendaya's face acting Zendaya's face acting in this scene was amazing Do you mean her acting? What her face acting Like when someone like Because it just came with disclosure day At the end the reporter

Yes yes And everyone's gagged over her Who slays down And they were like Her face acting Was some of the best face acting I'd ever see And I was like guys what

She's also acting with her body And just remain still in this moment You mean nonverb which is sleigh. I don't know. I guess, yeah, maybe what they're trying to say is her silent performance.

Yes, yes, yes. What she did with just her eyes or what she conveyed in this moment. Her face acting suggests a removal from the physical body. Suggests like an absence of anything facial during dialogue.

Correctamundo, Bo. Correctamundo, Bo? Trying it out. I like it. Correctamundo? Bo. How about this? Bo Mary.

It's going to be it. Oh, you coin Bo Mary. Bo Mary. Yeah, okay, go. After we record this episode, Troy Savon is coming in to talk about all sorts of things and being Troy Savon. Yeah, yeah. We should drop Correctamundo into the episode. Correctamundo Tro until he calls it out.

We should call him Tro until he calls it out. You want to call him Tro? I'll call him Tro. Right. You, you, here's what we're going to do. And you guys can see you next week if it panned out. You try calling him trow like a bunch and see when he, when he calls it out. Yeah. I bet I bet I'm not the first person. And I will say correctamundo until he calls it out. And then if he's able to by the end of the episode, and please keep us honest here, Becca, can you keep us honest about this? We will say, so there was actually a hidden game happening during the episode. And we've never done this.

on Las Colch. And what was weird about the episode? Sure. And if he says like, and you were calling me trow and you were saying correctamundo. That's really good. And I actually want to try something with him that we should start on this episode. Three way.

Three way. Feel the rush. Feel the rush. To the crush. We need to start queer handshake. Hmm. The official queer handshake. What will it look like?

So we should start the first move. Oh. So this and then what's after that you and I establish and then he adds on the next. Okay, cool. Should we start right now? Yeah, what should it be? Okay, so it'll be like... You want to start wide. Okay, so that's the first one. That's the first one. No, no, no. And then after that. Oh, I have an idea. Yeah. Pull it back.

Okay, great. So starting wide... Yeah, like... It looks great. There's a... So then, like, I think we build the handshake with select guests. Oh my God, perfect. Okay, so Troy is next week. Troy is next week.

Spike and honey. Spike and honey. That will be good. That will be good. And then I think we'll go from there. And we'll go from there. We just don't want to say because the next person is not confirmed, confirmed. Right.

But sometimes that's a way to confirm, confirm, is to say it live on the podcast so that people feel bullied to do lost culture is this. I need to, we need to talk about five-star weekend. Can I agree something? Yeah. It's just another reason to get emotional today because it wasn't on the list. And I'm realizing how wrong that was because you're so wrong. You're absolutely right. We need to talk about the five-star weekend, a show whose podcast I also listen to.

The official one. You love that. That's a rule of, if you fucking love a show if you're listening to the podcast of it. That's a rule of culture number 78. You fucking love a show if you're listening to the podcast of it. I listen to Chloe Seven-Ye get interviewed about actually her surprising ties to Nantucket. Really? Yeah, people don't think that Chloe Seven-Yee is connected to Nantucket, but she actually has very

surprising ties to it. She's a East Coast girl. I think if you're if you're a East Coaster, you've got, you've visited Nantucket. Can I say something? That's not true. As an East Coastal League, not everyone has the ties to Nantucket. It should be surprising that you've been to Nantucket. You would be surprised the ties that she has to Nantucket, which made her want to participate

in the show, which her fans have been surprised. to see her in. No, literally. As a fan, I was surprised and delighted that she played a townie so well. Chloe Seven-Y as a as a masshole townie. So fun. It's really good. And she's also not because she's like refined in Nantucket.

She, she's a mass. She's a messole. No, she's not a mass hole. I was, I was being an asshole when I said that mass. An asshole. A New York. Wait. Okay, I just did Colin Badell's podcast.

All of us astrology content. I've been following for years. and he's starting a new podcast and they were like, what'd you do? I was like, yes, I'm such a fan. I mean, I did over the weekend. He read me down. He didn't read me down.

He like really got it. He's so sad. What was said? He was just, he's always so fucking smart. And I said to him, I was like, this is what I know to be true about you Long Islanders. And for my eternal bond with Matt Rogers,

you guys are some of the smartest people on the planet. You have a, but it's rooted in like a working class sort of like, eh, like, you know, how are you? it's like, but it's, it's intelligent. I would say it will be dangerous to tell a lot of Long Islanders right now that they are the smartest people in the world. Because I do think that one of the symptoms of being a Long Islander is you tell yourself that all the time.

And look how, look how far it's gotten you. Yeah, I left long ago. And by the time I left. You sure talk about it a lot. I don't even think I brought it up today. maybe even the rosy conversation earlier but she also brought up she she asked me the classic long island question which was what exeter are you yeah can i tell you something actually don't know that answer you used to do it feels like a litmus test for long islanders you used to know no because when they

asked that question they mean on the long island expressway and you weren't a driver you went driving down the expressway was not really that girl who was using it for that type of commute so i would use sunrise highway so i can tell you sunrise highway i think was like four 34, 45, 46? Just say one of those numbers. Well, that's what I explained to her at the time, but... Then I was like, why is my conversation with Rosie O'Donnell about X-S? She asked.

She axed to you. I guess because she axed me. Which is a Long Island way of asking. Yeah. I'm axing you a question. That's what, Colin's like, I got to ax you. I got to ax you. Let me ax you.

Let me ax you. Anyway, sorry. No, five-star weekend. We wanted to talk about it. Darcy Cardin. Can I say she's the heart of the show? She's the heart of the show. Face acting, down.

Some of the best face acting I've seen. Some of the best face acting. Yeah. Oh my God. And Jay Gardner and reuniting with, um, what's his face? Didn't we're they in a movie together? Jay Gardner? Jennifer Gardner.

Oh. Jennifer Gardner reuniting with, um, uh, one and only Timothy Oliphant. Who, still swinging dick as he walks into rooms. It's just such a, what an eternal hottie. Oh, he's a good one. Garner, Eternal Hody. Regina Hall. Regina.

Loving my life whenever she's on stream. I love my life. I love my life with Jemma Chan. I love my life with Darcy Cardin. They're doing a second season of the five star. Which is, which is the best news we heard. It's actually going to be nominated.

Well, then they'll be like, oh, they only nominated it to promote it. No. But it's like, I'm sorry, sometimes we really do love things on Peacock as much as we say. And can I say something? We would have no reason to... Candidly, like, we have it.

We're still the same fans as we were. We're still normal people out here who love peacock. We don't have the allegiances that are perceived out there to Peacock. We just thought that the best little creature, one of the nominees, was the miniature wife. Get Bell, Pure Fiber Internet with Crave, Netflix, and Disney Plus. From $94 a month, price guaranteed for two years on internet with a two-year term and auto pay credit. Visit bell.com. and to check availability. Bell, connection is everything.

If your bookshelf and your for you page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is Prose Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm going to have to look up this story.

I'm obsessed. From bestselling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table. If you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters, then that is a Trojan horse. Whether you're looking for literary deep dives,

smart pop culture conversations, or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to pro society on the IHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and held captive for nine months.

I survived and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are the Survivor Files. I just remember this low, taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up, without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed, and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them.

There's stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week, we talk to someone in show business, aka the biz,

and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head, right? How about we flip this around? What if the surprise woman, who actually you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird? Adam Scott, this entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show.

I would never expect. I would never set expectations for something like that to happen. If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept. You know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I could smell it walking on the hallway, to be honest with you. I was like, I was like, is that weed?

Nope, it's fragile masculinity. Ben Stiller, no. Because a lot of times, out of context, people don't get it or even know what a circle is. You know what I mean? They're like, oh, what's just a state. Everyone's so dumb. And fake. Right.

Fake and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life. I don't care about your life. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now, I do want to say a thing that really got me through yesterday. Yesterday I had like just a languid day, Sunday as fuck. Everyone did, I think.

I know. The vibes were off. Because we were sort of talking about hanging out and everyone was like in and a house. I've been watching, I need to, I've been telling myself, I need to go on like a Lisa Rina day one journey. Really? So I remember watching her first season in bits and pieces. I want to watch it all the way through beginning of Beverly Hills.

Beverly was beginning of Lisa Rina era to end. And, as in her enemies on that show, I'm Rina all the way. I'm Team Rina all the way. Okay. Because I see her on my screen and I light up. Yeah.

I mean, there's no question that she is, would cause anyone stimulus in seeing her on the show. Towards the end, I'm interested to see what you think. Yes. Well, I was there towards the end.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. with the whole Kathy Hilton thing and I'm like whatever there's there's stuff about I mean there's that that whole side of Beverly Hills to me is like like bumps me out sometimes it's good to root for the villains though

sometimes sometimes the villains are the ones there's nothing better than a good reality TV and I don't want to call Rina a villain because she's just she was just being her authentic self and can I just say episode one the first couple episodes of Rina just sums her all up she's just like I'm an entertainer I guess I'm an entertainer

an actor, I don't know what to call myself. She is an entertainer. And, you know, when she and I lean sit down for lunch, like, they cut back to, like, old episodes of Days of Our Lives where it's just like, God, Lisa Rinna is just, and she, she's like, and I'm not ashamed of anything, which explains everything about her in terms of her, like, going to all these, like, runway events, her dressing up, like, full on committed to the new, like. She loves it.

She loves it. But it's like she is, she is a true entertainer in the sense that she is interested in what is on the front line, and she will commit in the way that she has committed for us at the culture awards. I just love her, and I think she would be an excellent Mary Todd. You know, I think that they would be fools. Because the only way they can top you.

No. They've got plenty of people. Is to bring Lisa Rinna in after that. What's on the list? confront ourselves. Why haven't we seen The Odyssey? Well, we've been on record as saying that like, we love Nolan.

We just, we just, we, it's, it's just been, I was, I do want to see it in IMAX and it's still really hard to get a ticket. I can't say where I, I was shooting. You were shooting. Mr. Smith. And I, I think that's where my NDA begins. So I, I, I can't say where I was, but I was in a place where it was not accessible to go to a theater. I could not go to a theater in the way that I had been told I must see the film. So when all of the narrative is like, we shot this on IMAX, you must see it in this way. And then it's hard to do that. It's kind of like, okay, I'll get to it later.

Tough marketing. And then I couldn't hear the dialogue at all. I just could not hear it. and and then now I'm happy that everyone is you know revisiting two things in culture interstellar and CXO XO XO and I'll talk about that in a second but people are revisiting interstellar and they're like oh interstellar is the best Nolan and I'm like I would have loved well a lot of people feel that way that's int well that's just because people are because they haven't they're over they're over saying it's the dark night

even though it is it is like I understand it will always be the dark night right it's like okay people that like you know I'm one of these people, but it's the way that people feel about like chocolate chips and oatmeal raisin. It's like you can say oatmeal raisin is your favorite. Which it is yours. It is mine. I know this doesn't really work. It's like Pepsi and Coke.

It's like Coca-Cola is the girl. You know what I'm saying? It's like, oh, I love Wendy's. It's like, no, you like McDonald's. It's like you think you're going to get your cinephile card revoked because you didn't want to do the Odyssey to see the Odyssey. I think we have to Actually, this will be my hand I don't think so honey.

Cinephelia. I don't think so honey. Sinephilia is really good because the goalposts they move. Here's what I said. The QVC woman, let's not lose sight of her. Tony.

We know her name. And can we remember it? Tony. Can we remember the QVC woman's name? Tony is going on Fallon today. What? It's such a phenomenon. And the way she was posting on her

own social media is I'm going to be unfound and it's just not a picture of her face at the back of her head well I mean and thank God that her back of her head is so but I'm going to say it ridiculous that's such a perfect example which you've learned at this point yeah and known for a while which is the art of that job is just to keep talking and here's what so here's what's going on right now And this haircut is just reminding me of a time when my mom cut my hair. Stop. Sell me those matches. Now these, oh my God, well, now I'm on the spot.

Do it. Oh my God, no, you go. I have found, and this is going to be something that happens with everyone out there. Whether you're lighting incense because you've had a really stressful day, whether or not, and hey, I'm not going to tell anyone here, but you like to enjoy a little, in the words of Britney Murphy on my favorite movie. herbal refreshment, or if you just want to light one of the many candles that we've spoken about on this very day, you need matches. These are amazing. So, and what I love about matches, they're like little paintings. They really are. And I love that every single one has a beautiful

visual identity. So you can trade them. You know, for example, like if you had one in there and I wanted it, it has the value. And that is the, the, the shame. the exchange because we all need a light of fire. And I'm talking about physically as well as metaphorically, Bowen. And here's what's happening, and this is not a metaphor. We are selling five matchbooks. You're going to love this. For $25.

That's a $5 per matchbook value. That's a steal. I know what you're saying. That sounds like far too much. This person does not have a grasp on people's economic reality today. But these are luxury items. No, no. And you think I'm being,

You think I'm being Lucille Bluth. That's very funny. Excuse you. I know exactly why you say that because what makes these different? These are matchbooks from the first day of Lost Colch having a new set. And that's not just something, but everything. And let's just talk about the set for a second because I think this is the best compliment I can give a room. Yeah.

I want to take a nap in here. I want to take a nap in here. And you know what ties it all together is a beautiful centerpiece. And no one thinks. No one thinks. they're going to have enough matchbooks for a whole centerpiece. That's because you're not thinking about them as collectibles. These are special.

And you're collecting hearts. I'm collecting hearts because you want to know what people, people, and I'm going to get vulnerable here. They relate to me. And they relate to me because they know that I need a light in the dark sometimes too. And that's why I have a whole little centerpiece full of matches right here, bro. It's time for, I don't think so, honey. Anything else on the list? that you want to talk about?

We actually kind of got through everything. Really? Yeah. In a really exciting way, except this one thing that I wanted to sort of get into even more. Okay. Okay.

This is fabulous. This is Matt Rogers, I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Oh, you're just getting into CXOXO now? Some of us have been having a great time. Some of us have been having a lot of fun, including I'm telling you this right now,

some of the hottest gays on Instagram DM respond whenever I put up a flare that I like Camila CXOXO because I have taste people respond and they are some of the most beautiful men in the world That's so beautiful. Camila congratulations on that 30 seconds and it's not the only album that people have just totally like you know taken and just thrown away but it is the album of the moment

and I'm willing to say it right now CX OXO is the album of the moment 15 seconds 2026 and that is not to take away from what I believe to be the actual album of the year and I'm just going to say this because I don't want to be totally frivolous

World Scurl in America by Slater Best New Artist Narrative we need it, we love it but CXOXO I guess welcome home everyone like I said the water's really warm It's Miami And that's one minute Cute girl in a sick mind

I text Bowen and Jared all the time I'll just text CXOXO or there was a time when your vocal stem was cute girl with a sick mind Cute girl with a sick mind What's your current stim? Oh

You stimming? I'm stimming on I can't even think to answer a question Or just give me a fan Or no I'm suffocating Open the door now Well

There's a lot to Stim on in but in confession too as well. Yeah, I mean, I don't fuck with it. It's not okay. I don't fuck with it. People think the Jans floor is frivolous. Now what does she say?

She says, she says, safety and numbers. Safety and numbers. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. I love whatever register she's in right now. It's amazing. I love Madonna. Love.

So much. She's invented everything. much like peaches Josh Harper and I say peaches invented everything Madonna also invented everything obviously in a more obvious way but peaches did invent everything

Started it all You don't get Slater without peaches You don't get Keshah without peaches You don't get all these things without peaches Okay You don't get I don't think so honey without Bowen Yang This is all this is I'm just gonna

You know I'm just gonna ref Let him cook One of the top phrases of 2026 Give him 10 Give him 10 Give me 10. Remember this one? That was a good one.

All right, this is Bowen Yangs. I don't think so, honey. As time starts now. I don't think so, honey, sinophilia. Let's just say, you love movies. You don't have to have a whole sharpness around it. You make it seem uninviting. You make it seem like it's a closed conversation, right?

It's like now everyone is like, out here being like, this is what your letterbox top four should be. There should be one little silly one. It's like, no, no, no, no, no. There's no should with film. 30 seconds. You should watch. It is film is sculpted time.

You should just enjoy the sculptures that you like. You should like the shapes that you like and that can be anything. But there is this thing like, God, I'll never forget. I had the honor of going to the criterion closet and I made the mistake of reading the comments. And it's just people being like, well, yeah, everyone loves Paris, Texas. Yeah, I, but I fucking love it too. So then what am I supposed to do? Not acknowledge it.

Say that I don't love it. Because then when I say that I do, it's like you're damned if you do, you damned if you don't. I just like all kinds of movies, the prestigious, the Janus Filmsy, and the fucking Disney Pixar, I suppose. And I don't know. Let's just everybody, not too much on the synophilia. And that's one minute plus. I will say it is, it was at a time a thing where it's like, oh, you've described yourself as a Sinephile, that means you have an interest I might be able to.

But now it's like... Engage with. Now it's like you're not like, oh, the vet, like you're... It's stolen valor or something. And I just... Sinephilia. And I'm just like, I thought, I thought everyone just loved movies. Different kinds of movies.

But it's like, I can be like, yeah, I'm kind of whatever on Nolan. Yeah. And apparently that's like a crazy take. Well, when someone's artistic output is pretty much expected to be something specific,

people can make value judgment. Totally, and I'm thrilled that it's doing well and that like the weird fucking attempted woke takedown of it, the takedown of it trying to be quote woke has failed and like there is such a thing like there's like a new kind of era of like a tour blockbuster directors

once again. But overall, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, again, I'm like neutral. I'm like, the way that people are like, I'm neutral, I'm neutral on Taylor. I'm like, yeah, great. Or like on any other artist. I'm like, that's, that's good.

Neutrality with art is like fine. It's not a dire political need. Well, things need to be mid so that we can see what's truly great. Period. Like, I do think we, we don't have. have enough people out here being like this was fine. Like everything is either like it's polarized to be like this is an excellent thing or this is a terrible thing. And most of everything right now is fine.

That's actually the big reveal about our culture right now. It's all kind of fine. It's all fine. Like there are things that are happening that are like, oh, that's extraordinary. That's cool. But we're not living in a time of like. We're not saying that the Odyssey is fine. We're just saying like there is like we're trained to be extremely polar about anything and everything. Toy Story 5 is out now. Greta Lee's in every movie. Love that, though. I mean, listen, if Toy Story,

Christopher Nolan and Greta Lee are all going to be ubiquitous. Mary Fuck Kill. I marry Greta. Greta's in Toy Story. That I guess I fuck Toy Story and I kill Nolan. I knew I knew you. I don't know it. We end every, you have any

else to you want to say? We still gotta do a whole other one of these. I know, no, I'm good. But I'm excited. I love our new set. This is so good.

I'm really, I'm so thrilled. And we're just gonna keep out of, we, well, I think we're gonna swap out the couch. Yeah. I love the couch.

I don't think, I don't think, you know, I have a very similar rug in my apartment. I know, this rug is classic fat. It's amazing. Guys, this rug is amazing.

No, and I'm not nitpicking here. I'm just saying like, you know, just prepare for some changes, some slight changes and tweaks. And, but this is all, I mean, you know, I did almost bring one of our I heart podcast of the year trophies today. And I thought to myself, do we want to display it? And I think maybe we will. I think we will. To remind these girls. Let's display it.

That's what awards are meant to be. That's what you're supposed to do with them. Okay. We end every single episode of this podcast with a song. I have an idea. I'm going to do the beginning of a concert that you missed. Oh. And I want you to think about the atmosphere being so dense with excitement, anticipation,

because you know you're going to see your generational icon that you feel like you grew up with. Yeah, you did. Maybe even you had your kid at the same time. time. She was having her kid. And you look around and you're like, wow, look how far we've come. And you see it's Madison Square Garden. There's people talking. They talk about me.

They know my name. Everything. They know everything, but they don't know anything about me. Give me a dance floor. Give me a DJ. me a record. Forget what day you say because I need to go.

Need to get away tonight. I put my makeup on a Saturday night. Try to make it happy. Try to make it all right. Why this key? She was young and you chose it. But why did I feel like I need to do it in that key? Because, I don't know, hubris.

Oriana was right when she came on the podcast. I remember at the end of the podcast, I started to sing positions in like, She was like, that key. She was like, that's a weird key. Let's just get to the chorus. I know I made mistakes that live in left day to day.

It's never really easy, but it's okay. And the thing is, it's not a hard song to sing, but it's going to feel like it's a hard song to sing in a second because of what I've chosen. I think we go for it. Five, six, seven, eight. Wake up, wake up on a Saturday night. Could be New York, maybe Hollywood and Vine.

And in Paris, maybe Tokyo Something going on Anyway go tonight Tonight Yeah, tonight We can have one Hillary Duff album in the studio Which one should it be?

It should be the new one I have it. It's so good. Mature is my favorite song of the year. Mature is? Mine is roommates. Love that. Too bad the episode over, or we can verbally spar about that.

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