Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "War" (w/ Lauren Lapkus)

Episode Date: April 22, 2020

Star of stage and screen and podcasts (all visual mediums) Lauren Lapkus joins Matt and Bowen this week for a Babu Frik-ing good time. Discussions about Star Wars, JoJo Siwa, and why Donald Duck is qu...eer start us off, but stick around to hear why Lauren's formative culture was Nickolodeon programming. Everyone also shares their favorite experiences working for Story Pirates and unleash three electric IDTSHs. Listen nao! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:30 don't think so honey to bowen and he he thinks he knows but he doesn't know but the fact of the matter is a large thing has happened in the culture and i feel that it's created um it's not what it's not a roadblock for me what roadblock it's not what people the large thing in the culture is not what people think it's not like the top of mind thing although it's it's top of mind just in terms of culture in core i feel that this thing i'm going to talk about i'm just gonna you know what this is ridiculous i'm just gonna say what it is no no no no save it for later save it no i refuse okay this thing that i have found yep is that i tried to listen to fiona uh-huh fetch the bolt cutters yep and i don't get it i don't get it you know you didn't listen to her old stuff
Starting point is 00:03:17 did you i know criminal like i know i know what i need to know but and i here's the thing it bothers me so much as I know I'm wrong. It's like one of those things. No, it's not that. It's just that I think you haven't had, and this sounds so annoying, but I don't think you've had the supplemental materials to close the gap in the understanding
Starting point is 00:03:37 or the appreciation of this album. See, and this is the other thing. I knew this would bring this to light, which is along comes Fiona with this album, and everyone's saying they love it, and then I like i don't know and then everyone's like well it's because you don't have the tools to really enjoy fiona with you know you don't have the culturally you of course you wouldn't get oh you would say the same thing about someone who like was hating on kelly you should like read the lyrics you should read the
Starting point is 00:04:05 you should look up the lyrics to all these songs on genius or something the lyrics i i trust me i have done everything i can do to try and understand not just liking it because i get liking it i don't think it's bad it's just that 10 on pitchfork and then like everyone universally being like this is album of the year sure and i'm just sure sure that the pitchfork thing i mean part of it was like to drive clicks or whatever you know what it was they i know it they did that to start this conversation they did it and they then you know what they're trying to start a civil war in this country between people with taste between people with taste and people with no taste and they're're going to get it. They're going to get it. They're going to get a war.
Starting point is 00:04:51 You're saying that Pitchfork gave their first perfect 10 score to an album in as many years specifically to start a rift between you and I. To compromise this. No. I'm saying we are but a microcosm. And we are always but a microcosm. It's actually rule of culture number 12. We are always but a microcosm and here's the thing is i have to say that i actually have already death threats i have death threats from our from our gay group chat i have
Starting point is 00:05:14 death threats from joel kim booster and josh sharp that if i didn't i don't think so honey today on fiona that i would be i would be dead and they would kill me you would be flayed so just know that during this entire podcast episode, what's going to be racing, absolutely racing to the back of my mind is, do I want to be so brave as to face death in order to give a truthful, I don't think so, honey.
Starting point is 00:05:33 So that's going to be my internal narrative the whole time. Yeah. Wow. Well, let's see if there's an arc to that in this episode. Let's see if you end up somewhere different. I hope I do. I mean, maybe our guests will be able to convince me, although I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Ooh, our guest could convince, could sell ice to Eskimos. Is that okay to say? I think that's actually going to be okay to say because I've bought whole blocks of ice from our guest and it's just like any other ice, but it's just the way she sells it. By ice, you mean cocaine.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Blocks of cocaine. Yeah, she's my coke girl. She's my coke girl. Lauren Lapkus is my coke girl oh my god am I here am I here yeah
Starting point is 00:06:09 not yet hold on hold on our guest first we have to fluff the guest okay okay I'll back up let us fluff you first
Starting point is 00:06:16 let us fluff you we'll get on our knees and fluff you trust us no one wants to go in hard without a fluffer you're right please fluff
Starting point is 00:06:24 100% so listen the podcast with nicole byer that is now out it you know it goes through all the different star wars flicks first timers first timers newcomers i did newcomers newcomers i'm happy you did for that one i had to oh no no yeah the title is newcomers i was just saying they're first timers to the franchise thank you thank you yes yes we were getting there damn i got it back out of this fluff man i got it you got it back out of this fluff let us fluff you let us let us work it's so hard for me to let myself be fluffed but i will i will let yourself be fluffed and we also have to say i mean podcast queen podcast queen true podcast queen and queen of, I'm sorry, but film and television.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Sorry. Sorry she looks. Film and television and, get this, new media. New media. Oh my god, new media empress. Damn. And I have to say, it's very brave of someone who was in the Jurassic World franchise to come out and say, I don't know Star Wars. She could care less about nerd culture no but here she is she wants
Starting point is 00:07:27 to start a civil war between the franchises that's i think what's happening and i'm actually if we're gonna cause a war and she's gonna cause a war this podcast already has a title of ep and title this has a title of ep front runner and it's war it's just war war with our very special guests please welcome into your ears oh my god oh my god i can't believe i'm here first of all here being your own home as we do this i can't believe that but i can't believe i'm on this podcast because I've wanted to be on this podcast for, I would say, many, many months that would equal years. Wow.
Starting point is 00:08:09 I would agree that it has been an anticipated event on our end as well and we had such a fun time with you and Gabrus on Raised by TV. That was so fun.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Such a fun time. I really cherish it and this is, I'm sorry to bring it back to tie this to current events, but here's some perspective for all y'all, okay? Yeah. If you're like, And this is I'm sorry to bring it back to tie this to current events, but here's some perspective for all y'all, okay? If you're like, oh God, I'm so anxious.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Like, when is this going to be over? It's going to be as long of a time. Here's what I'll say. This is how I'm going to frame it. If we could all wait for this episode to happen, for Lauren Lapkus to come on Las Codristas for about the same amount of time as this thing is going to keep going on in the world, we can all do it, okay? We can all wait.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Yes. We can hold on. Of like our resilience as people. It is. It is. Yeah. Um, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:08:52 My words are kind of garbage. I'm a little stoned. It's we're recording this on four 20. Okay. I see. I was going to get stoned, but then I was like, I got to talk on less culture. But I should have just done it.
Starting point is 00:09:00 My thing is like, I was thinking about getting, see, now I actually have to start another fight, which is with my boyfriend. So I, Oh was boyfriend oh my god oh my god it happened um lucky me i have to say but he's in the dog house right now because i just want to go look if i had any wheat and he took it all he took it back to his apartment that is not okay it's actually not okay and i'm actually 20 that 420, that's actually illegal.
Starting point is 00:09:26 That's actually illegal. It's actually a real crime here in California. Oh, no. And I have to say, I have to put him on blast. There is no weed in the apartment, but that's probably for the better because I have smoked 98% of all the minutes I've been in quarantine.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Yeah, yeah. It's a necessity. I mean, you know, you got to get through the day. For me, a lot of it is like just straight up television or podcasts like noise at all times and when the noise stops i get scared yeah truly yeah when it's silent and dark that's when it's sad yeah what are you indulging in what are what are your things that you've been watching and um consuming in core people want to know i've been consuming basically everything i love television it is uh
Starting point is 00:10:05 my favorite thing to do all the time but so this has been like a real deep dive for me but um there have been a lot of great things coming out did you watch too hot to handle okay this is the new one i have to watch this is the new one yeah this is the new one and the whole thing is they basically bring like uh 10 like essential sex addicts to live in a house together and then tell them they can't have sex and if they touch or kiss each other the money from the 100 000 pot is decreased with every action yeah yeah and let me tell you they still hook up like they don't care that the money is going away it's crazy that okay they're so horny that is insane you think that that would be the
Starting point is 00:10:42 easiest thing ever but like is there like uh an amount of time they're gonna be there do they know how long they're gonna be there but like it's within a day there there's a couple that's like okay like like they take they just met and they're like we have to fuck and like they just do it like it's just crazy are they releasing it week to week um no it's it just was eight episodes they just dropped all at once you can just watch it and call it a day yeah that is a really good that is a really good um idea of tell for television for right now where people are in quar and it's top of mind that they're not able to touch kiss or fuck and then you just see these people just go like who cares i mean i think there are a lot of people doing that in real life anyway so uh which is also disturbing yeah um i watched all of that i i've been watching god you know you know what's kind of been
Starting point is 00:11:29 interesting about this time is like i have no memory of any day that's happened and like i've been in quarantine for like five weeks or more and i like remember two days of it yeah like i don't know like what's happening or what i'm doing with my time it's the days fly in the weirdest way yeah now they've said like it could be like for a really long time that we're doing this and i'm like oh that's just gonna be a real lost year isn't it like that's crazy to think about like i thought recently like i just was reminded about something that happened a little bit over a year ago and i was like wow that feels like a lifetime ago and then hearing that we might be in quarantine for that long is like truly crazy it's truly crazy but then i saw today that they were opening up um georgia on friday for like hair salons i was like
Starting point is 00:12:15 that is literally insane i mean i don't have to be the voice of reason but that might be because the governor is an idiot okay i was kind of picking up on that on Twitter. That's where I get a lot of my opinions. Oh, Brian. The Walking Dead quote retweeted that and just had their hands on their heads like, does that emoji of like, oh, doi emoji. So even The Walking Dead is like, wow. This is how crazy, like, I feel like Twitter
Starting point is 00:12:38 has changed that way where it's like shows have opinions about current events right now. Yeah. Yeah. Like Nestle is is like this is us as fuck well this is one of the things when this all started one of the things my husband said like right off the bat was like i can't wait to see which brand jumps on this the fastest and then it was like we were watching tv and suddenly within days the commercials were like you want to stay at home with your family and you're missing everyone out there.
Starting point is 00:13:06 How do you connect? And it was like, that was the quickest pivot I've ever seen. Truly like the toilet paper commercials. I mean, like they've always been around, but now it's just like, we are this, we're going to get, we're going to get there together. It's like, oh, it's ennobling to be a toilet paper company. Like it's so respectable. I use you to wipe my poop. I literally flush you in the toilet paper company. Like, it's so respectable. I use you to wipe my poop.
Starting point is 00:13:26 I literally flush you in the toilet. Yeah. And you're telling me it's going to be okay? But no, but it's like... I don't want to talk to you. It's the way that they're positioning selves to be like this amazing, like charitable company.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Not charitable, but it's like they're like doing good in the world. Yes. It's very funny. It is interesting. Well, corporations are people charitable company not charitable but it's like they're like doing good in the world yes yes yeah it's very fun it is interesting well corporations are people we're really finding out yeah and they are sentient and they have emotions and they're actually okay they're actually neutral good true neutral true neutral yeah corporations are true neutral i like like that. Yeah. Well, Lauren, I feel like you, because I feel like I'm in a different, you're in a different camp than I am right now
Starting point is 00:14:12 in terms of the way that I'm like unwinding or killing time where I can't sit through shows or movies. Like I'm having a really hard time. Oh, okay. So what have you been, do you like flip around or you just not watch things? I just watch things and I like lose, I lose interest within like 10 minutes and then I go to something.
Starting point is 00:14:28 And then I know, cause I've been doing video games. I'm thinking all my times in the video. He's a gamer. Do you play Animal Crossing? I just started playing that. Played Animal Crossing. Oh my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:36 I saw. Yeah. I joined that and that's been very fun. That's been my whole quarantine. Oh, I have to say I have signed on kind of mentally to watch a few shows that come on every week as like sort of markers of time so i now watch the masked singer and i really love it yeah but it now they've been playing like reruns for some reason i don't know do they not get to finish their season because i might be really devastated if we don't get the ending of that
Starting point is 00:15:01 oh shoot well i don't think they did. They did not finish. I don't think. Cause isn't it, isn't it live? Isn't it sort of live? Yeah, maybe it is. Maybe I've been watching reruns and I don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Who has been on, who has been on that? You've been like, Oh my God. Cause sometimes multiple people in the thing and been right. Jojo Siwa. I called it like right away. And I was like, why do I know this?
Starting point is 00:15:27 Yeah. Well, she's got talks like that so it's really tall and I can tell and she was like kind of dressed like her like an insane tall toddler she is a fascinating creature I'm like so intrigued I watched a like a few well now probably a year ago I watched a bunch of of YouTube videos of her giving a tour of her room and then her room, she redid it again and gave a tour of that. And she has pictures of herself plastered everywhere. On her sheets, there's pictures of herself. And her car is all pictures of herself on the outside. And I don't really understand that.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Well, she feels like a weird throwback-y kind of famous kid star type thing. Like, where it's like, hey guys, come on! And it's just like, wait, this feels like it was something from like the mid-90s. Like some sort of Rugrats adjacent pop star. That shouldn't be viable now, but very much is. It is like she's like a Rugrats character that came to life. That feels really accurate. Definitely that.
Starting point is 00:16:26 There's an element of Gypsy there, though. Like Gypsy the show. Like I think she has a stage mom. The musical. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's a Roma. Doesn't she have a stage mom? Isn't she from the Dance Moms universe or something?
Starting point is 00:16:39 Oh, yeah, she is. She is. You're right. Right. I feel like I should know this. I don't. Honestly, I'll tell you. She had to recently be explained to me i felt like i was like way out of touch with it but she's one where i really did not know her deal and then i saw her i had heard the name a bunch
Starting point is 00:16:55 jojo siwa jojo siwa and then i saw what she was and i was like no and people were like no this is something people like and i was like oh well because she's the part that stops me is that she's an adult like that's the part that i find confusing i'm like wait she's like grown up like what it would be hard to keep the keep going with the act but you know when the money rolls in i guess yeah i wonder if we'll see her like ex tina miley phase of her jojo siwa like raw well that makes me want to ask you how you feel about Amanda Bynes' Instagrams lately have you been checking them?
Starting point is 00:17:30 what's the deal tell us well I might be a few weeks behind in terms of the content but she is pregnant she announced that she was pregnant she posted a picture from the ultrasound she got a tattoo of a heart on her face I'm looking at this now for the first time oh my god it's really interesting and she She got a tattoo of a heart on her face. I'm looking at this now
Starting point is 00:17:45 for the first time. Oh my God. Oh, it's really interesting. And she deletes a lot of videos, but she'll post them and when you catch them, they're really good. She'll be like,
Starting point is 00:17:53 thank you all for your appreciation of my time here after my situation with my probate. I am doing everything I can with my conservationship to figure out
Starting point is 00:18:00 what I need to do next. And she just says that kind of stuff to her fans. Wow. It's very interesting. Wait, well, I'm looking at it do next. And she just says that kind of stuff to her fans. Wow. It's very interesting. Wait, I'm looking at it now too. So she is not verified on Instagram,
Starting point is 00:18:10 but it does say Amanda Bynes real and she has 471,000 followers. So I'm guessing this is her. Yeah, I wonder why she's not verified. She looks completely different. Well, it looks like it's a relatively new Instagram. Like her first post is from september 10th 2019 and it's her with pink hair a septum piercing and like what looks like to be a whole new head
Starting point is 00:18:31 and she's going to fit him the fashion institute whatever it stands for right wow that's crazy because correct me if i'm wrong wasn't she like um in some way coming back like wasn't she trying to make a comeback of a few years ago yeah there was some interview where she um just like had her wits about her it seemed i'm not like i mean we can't really tell i don't know i don't want to know and it's versions but no i agree i'm saying like i've just been kind of fascinating popping into her instagram and seeing this whole new look and whole new deal she has going on. And then she did announce her pregnancy
Starting point is 00:19:07 and then deleted it. So I don't really know about that. Wow. The heart tattoo is like a little jarring. Getting a face tattoo is such a move. I don't know. I mean, I could never, I feel like I would never,
Starting point is 00:19:17 I can't even get a tattoo. I couldn't decide on anything for my body, let alone my face. No, no. I mean, Bowen has a couple. This is, but this is how stoned i got last night was i just was like looking staring at my tattoos and being like oh i can't get this off
Starting point is 00:19:30 not that i even want to but it's like if i wanted to i can't get this isn't that weird that is weird no that's actually something i told you would happen no oh no but no i'm not saying that i want them off i'm not saying that i want them no but like the stoner realization of like yes oh this is on forever it's forever yeah yeah yeah yeah i think that you have beautiful tasteful tattoos bowen what did you get i feel like i've heard you talk about them you had one that's like a little red square up here and then i've got a little i've got like my parents last names and this like specific seal script in Chinese well that's meaningful it's it's it's it's nice but I but I did just but Matt just pounced on my ass real quick right there and you were like yeah I told you to get them off
Starting point is 00:20:17 no because whenever anyone whenever anyone in my life is like I'm getting a tattoo my instinct is to always I don't know what this is about me but my instinct is always to be like yeah right like i never really believe they're gonna get it it's like when i see it's like when i see my friends like bone yang smoking cigarettes i'm like but we're kids right right i have this thing in my head it's like we're too young to do that oh my god it's like so when people are out there having free will and inking their body up and smoking like a damn chim i'm like well we're what do you mean like i i feel like it's not a possibility for me there was a time when my sister and i i think i've told this on the pod my sister and i were at universal studios florida yeah and we were like away from our parents they let us like go to the parks by
Starting point is 00:21:00 ourselves and we were like let's get tattoos and we couldn't decide what to get and we went all the way to the tattoo place and we were like we don't know what to get and we're in orlando so maybe not this was there's a tattoo place in universal studios in city walk there at least was a tattoo parlor that you could go to crazy move to have that there oh yeah do you think people go in and just get like daffy Duck or whatever? Like they're just like impulsive. I'm sure Ms. Daffy is in the book. Or like whatever. Yeah. Or actually wait, Daffy Duck. She's Disney, right?
Starting point is 00:21:31 Okay. So whatever the universal version. Daffy's Looney Tunes. Oh, right. Looney Tunes. Damn. Of course, Daisy Duck. Ms. Other Duck.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Mm-hmm. The Other Ms. Duck. The Other Ms. Duck. I was recently asked who my favorite Disneyney character was and i did say donald duck donald that's like literally no one's ever said that no one ever but i but i like that he's like donald duck to me is like the queer one because mickey i feel like that represents like the majority heterosexuality and then then there's donald's always like like always kind of just like being the comedic relief and always getting
Starting point is 00:22:08 pushed aside and I feel that he is like Donald's very emotional where do you put Goofy? Goofy's like stoner which is a sexuality yeah which is queer it's actually rule of culture number 33 Goofy is a stoner
Starting point is 00:22:24 which is a sexuality I's actually rule of culture number 33. Goofy is a stoner which is a sexuality. I do have to say really quick, I have, I stopped smoking the day before quarantine, before I started quarantining myself.
Starting point is 00:22:33 And that's like been a perfect way of like keeping count of the days for me personally. It's actually also a very convenient way to commit smoking
Starting point is 00:22:40 because no one can see you. Well, it's also like I don't want no damn comorbidities, honey. So that's why I stopped. So are you claiming, Matt, that he
Starting point is 00:22:49 didn't really quit? He's just saying he did. Yes, that is my claim at this time. That is my claim. Sustained. Thank you. And honestly, I would testify against him. On the charge of smoking? Yes, you are guilty. And you know one time but what bowen yang said to me he's like i'll stop smoking when you start therapy and i said
Starting point is 00:23:10 that is not the same thing whoa and why are you afraid to go no no no this is not this is not about me i said to him i was like you quitting smoking and me um not going to therapy is it a life or death situation and then he said to me well maybe it is wow i did not say that therapy though therapy is very um rejuvenating and life-giving in many ways like if you if you have any i mean i think even if you don't have a solid issue that you're working through right you'll find plenty of stuff to talk about in there. I mean, I started going like a year ago. I haven't been since quarantine. I need to like Skype her or something,
Starting point is 00:23:50 but I don't really want to. But it was so amazing, like the things that come out, like you go in for one reason and you end up talking about something else or the days you think you have nothing to say, you go on and start crying about something. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Yeah, I would actually be really interested to see what like what what made me emotional i guess there's an interesting thing that's happening now at least among my friends where we're like is there really a point to going to like even doing these like like skype sessions um and i think there are but like a lot of therapists are saying that like yeah it's just we talk about the same things with every single patient and client and so I feel like so my therapist did a
Starting point is 00:24:32 nice thing I think which is she was like we can just reduce them to every other week and we can just do them half hour sessions and that would reflect in the rate and I was like great that's nice yeah but it's this thing now where it's like i am at the same emotional place as i was for the most part like 10 days ago yeah i feel
Starting point is 00:24:52 that too like i think the first week or so i was like a complete wreck and then i've kind of leveled out in this weird way but i have a friend who's a therapist and she said her clients it's the same thing where everyone's talking about this of course but she has some teenage clients who are like still just talking about like their drama with their boyfriend or whatever and i'm like i kind of love that yeah yeah that's great that's great and it's good for like matt yeah it's just good for like um the pedestrian stuff which sounds like which is not all relative now it's like i don't know i don't know the thing is like yeah i feel like i i can't start now because my also my mood is so violently different every single day i don't know. I don't know. The thing is like, yeah, I feel like I, I can't start now because my, also my mood is so violently different every single day.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I don't know how you guys feel, but the way that my, my, my emotions are responding to the situation is like, I'll wake up one day and I'll be like, just another day. And you know, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I mean like whatever. And then the next day I'll literally be catatonic. Yeah. Well, I have those moments where I'm like, I'll just be like playing animal crossing and I'll be those moments where I'm like, I'll just be like playing Animal Crossing and I'll be like, I'm actually doing really well. And then like, I'll like look above myself
Starting point is 00:25:50 and see how sad it is. And then I'll want to cry. And I'll be like, wait, this is actually so dark. Like it'll just turn weirdly on a dime. But here's the thing about you, Lauren. You actually get to have a hashtag hot husband with you. That is true. That's actually the tea mike castle my castle he's very cute we are spending so much a lot of time oh yeah
Starting point is 00:26:16 yeah it's a mixed bag yeah yeah we mainly are doing well and not getting on each other's nerves but we have moments but then for sure you know go in the other room a little bit or something but yeah it's been fine do you know how i met mike castle i don't think so i met him when we both auditioned for the lead of the other two which drew tarver ended up booking but that's that's where i met him and i i loved him instantly because he's i'm gonna put him on blast'm going to throw him under the damn bus. Oh my God. He somehow had the list of everyone that was auditioning for that part.
Starting point is 00:26:52 And like, and I was like, how did you get that? And he was like, I can't say, but do you want it? And I was like, yes.
Starting point is 00:26:57 And so we fully like, I was like, I was like, I love her. And then we left and I was like oh of course he's of course one of the most gorgeous straight men oh yeah but we were auditioning for a gay part
Starting point is 00:27:12 and I was like I have a new sis but yeah it does throw you a little bit especially that he was like do you want the list of everyone I was like okay girl that's hilarious I love that and then I loved looking at the list of everyone? I was like, okay, girl. That's hilarious. I love that.
Starting point is 00:27:26 And then I loved looking at the list and being like, oh, her, her again, her. Wow. We see all the, we see all the same girls.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I love it. I love it. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure. That was great that Drew got that. That was so cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I mean, he's, he's so good in it. Yeah. He's, he's one of the damn best. He's so funny. Do you improvise with him a lot um from time to time we do i we've done like a lot of podcasts together more than live shows but right right right he just kills me he's so funny i feel like he's so surprising with the things his
Starting point is 00:27:58 characters say yeah i love teacher's lounge ah yes mind. A group of minds. Mm-hmm. Okay, we're going to take a quick break, and then when we're back, we will be talking more with Lauren Lapka. The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is. Joined by elite new friends.
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Starting point is 00:30:56 Together, we are Giving Kitchen. We help food service workers. Okay, we're back. Yay. And we're actually back and here's the thing that we're gonna do one is that we're gonna say we forgot to mention up top that you're actually part of the iconic improv group wild horses yes and we want to exalt the horses we must and we have to say the horses are actually improv culture because one of the one of the renowned improv groups yes thank you thank you and you know who
Starting point is 00:31:28 i actually um love and adore very much is well all the girls but mary holland i've run into a couple times and that is an icon mary is one of the sweetest people in the world and she's so funny but she's just the best isn't she i can never imagine someone disliking mary i feel i i don't know who does but i feel confused at the idea that someone could she is in that like darcy carden betty gilpin pantheon of like people where it's like oh i found out someone doesn't like her just kidding no never right totally i loved your episode with betty by the way that was a while ago now but that was such a good episode she was so like she's so good awesome i don't even know how to describe but i was like she was so open and like vulnerable and i loved all the stuff she said about acting
Starting point is 00:32:16 and she was great it was like a life coach vibe like yeah it was schooling us did you watch the hunt the hunt no i haven't seen that yet. You should watch it. It's very good. I remember it kind of got that big, there was kind of news around it because it was going to come out at a weird time. And then they, so they put it out now?
Starting point is 00:32:33 Yeah. Yes. They canceled the release in what, November? No, December? Like, it was like even earlier in the year. I think it was September, October. It was supposed to come out. And then it,
Starting point is 00:32:43 she's controversial. So, you know, they put the kibosh on that and then they were gonna release it again in theaters and then quarantine happened so it just had a lot of bad luck coming out but it's now on demand oh good i will say yes it's good because like the hunt was the one of the few films like the few exceptions in my quarantine viewing that like i was able to sit through the whole thing and i just like had a glass of wine i was like oh this is great i'm having fun yeah it just moves quickly it's not too long either it's truly like it's like 82 minutes it feels like oh that's great yeah i really love a short movie i've had to because of star wars i've had to watch every
Starting point is 00:33:16 fucking star wars movie which are each 215 at honey at best yes yes these are the longest films in recorded history they're the longest films in recorded history. They're the longest films of all time. I just can't believe it. Every single one. I'm like, wait, every single one is over two hours, two and a half hours? Okay. Even this last one, I think they came out and they were like, it's actually not going to be two and a half hours.
Starting point is 00:33:38 And everyone was like, great. I have to watch that one this week, so that's good news for me. Wait, you have not yet watched that last one? No, that's the one I have to watch that one this week so that's good news for me so you have wait you have not yet watched that last one no that's the one i have to watch i respect that one the most okay because i feel like it's the most camp and the most drag oh good we've liked things that have that element i mean like have you seen the holiday special on youtube so nicole was talking about this too like she like her favorite piece of star wars film has been the holiday special yes i mean and it's really bad but it's really good like it's just funny and weird it's too long if it was like 45 minutes would be amazing but they drag but i mean
Starting point is 00:34:16 what i love about it is like it's chewbacca's family story right and they don't speak english and they don't have subtitles they just just go, like it's just, that's your interpretation. It's very interesting. I have a question for you because I actually am a big Star Wars person. It's shocking to me that you like hadn't watched them before
Starting point is 00:34:36 because you like love movies, television. I feel like you're such like an absorber of culture. It's very true, but I feel like I just decided like an absorber of culture. It's very true, but I feel like I just decided I didn't want to see that. And I just, I was thinking of Valerie Cherish, which is why I got distracted. But I don't want to say that.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I don't want to say that. But I just didn't want to watch them. And I think also being in the improv community where like a lot of annoying boys like love that stuff and want to be referenced all the time it was almost like an act of defiance to like just not know what they were talking about yeah i don't care and i don't know and i'm not going to know right but i you know you mentioned that it's like oh and you're joking a little bit but like that it's like risky to say you don't like
Starting point is 00:35:18 star wars or whatever but it kind of is like it is like it feels like you can't say you don't like anything like i don't want to say i don't want to have a negative opinion of like a show because i would like to be on most shows and like i don't want to you know it's kind of a tough spot when you're in the entertainment industry but i felt like it's it's been kind of liberating i think for me and nicole to say we don't like it because then we've been finding things to like and we've been watching i've seen it all you know it's like yeah and the fans of star wars often hate star wars and they like are mad yeah so many things about it so it kind of kind of fit in yeah well that's kind of like where i think the conversation is with star wars right now is you're kind of damned if you do and damned if you don't if you do like it the the taste police
Starting point is 00:35:59 will attack you and be like even people even within the star wars fan community it's like oh this one sucked what are you talking about? They ended up ruining these movies. The legacy is ruined, et cetera. And then if you don't like them, you feel crazy because these movies are, I'll say, for kids. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:16 And they're also fun and passionately made. And if you actually compare them to the old ones, they are acted better. And so much blood, sweat, and tears goes goes into them and it's just to entertain you so it's like to shit on them feels cuckoo and they are fun to watch so i feel like it's almost become that thing of like i'm equally scared to say my opinion about star wars as i am about like the democratic politicians because it's like truly, even if your heart is in the right place,
Starting point is 00:36:46 like, or if it's not, you're fucked either way. It's, it's actually very, it's a really good analogy. It does feel like that because I feel like Star Wars as a franchise is this like a smooth surface that everyone just projects their shit onto.
Starting point is 00:37:00 But then it's also like, yeah, it's funny that you're comparing it to like Democrats because it feels like it's also this committee too it's like not even like it's not even like like a joyful thing i don't know i mean like the the original trilogy is like a beautiful like piece of storytelling i don't know about the the new ones but like but now it's the last jedi i like i love the last jedi that one's like a really horny movie everyone was shitting on it everyone was like the last Jedi sucks it sucks and then I was like I'm sorry but I prefer this one over the force awakens because it doesn't just regurgitate the plot right the whole trilogy
Starting point is 00:37:37 and not only that but also it took really bold stances and choices like spoiler alert for anyone that hasn't seen the last jedi but like the big reveal in the last jedi is that ray is not special that she's not actually related to anyone that her identity is she's just some girl and then i won't say because you haven't seen it yet but um the rise of skywalker sort of makes a an addendum or a choice on that and it's like i didn't like it i thought oh you really tried to do fan service here and it doesn't work for me but that being said i did like so much else about the movie and ultimately i understand why that choice is the right one to make because essentially what we have here is a soap opera in space so why wouldn't you go campy and big and stupid like that yeah that makes sense to me yeah because they're supposed to be that that's the fabric of their identity is luke i am your
Starting point is 00:38:34 father you know what i mean like we're not talking about like grounded shit even even the line anakin you're breaking my heart is so camp iconic stupid I mean Natalie you're breaking my heart it's so funny Natalie it's on the same level as Luke I am your father it's like oh my god this is so melodramatic so dumb you don't need to know what's
Starting point is 00:38:58 like you don't need to have watched the last two movies to like understand how dumb that is I don't know I love love yeah well i'm finding that even watching them doesn't help me understand what i'm now seeing you know it's like i'm like i wait i've seen that and yet i still don't know who these people are what's happening but i've been and i've been talking about it at length but anyway well there's also a million characters and also not for nothing a lot of them look alike yeah so and their names are all like glue blah glue blah blah blue blah yeah i can't remember
Starting point is 00:39:26 it yeah miss miss miss gluna bay comes in and she i'm supposed to know she's different from miss tina sun i don't know girl i think i saw both these girls on the jedi council both these girls also i'm gonna say it there's not enough women women on the Jedi Council. It's a rule of culture. Rule of culture number 16. There's not enough women on the Jedi Council. Lauren, it's time for us to ask you the question we ask all of our guests. And that question is, Lauren Lapkus, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me? Matt, explain it. Well, you know, this is the culture that made you say okay that really does clear it up yeah you know um i was thinking about this question and you we actually touched on it briefly the the thing that made me say culture was for me is the early 90s nickelodeon lineup like rugrats doug Double Dare, Guts
Starting point is 00:40:25 Clarissa Explains It All Legend of the Hidden Temple I'm sure yes yes all of it all of it I feel like that was like my brain and like Ren and Stimpy like all of that stuff like I feel like that was where like I feel
Starting point is 00:40:41 like I started to form my personality and like neon colors and slime and gack and like neon colors and and and slime and gack and like all that fun stuff like that was like it is its own visual language it's it's it's its own aesthetic and it's it's its own sensibility and like it really did like shape it for a lot of us yeah that green splatter is like so. I remember I never, what do they call it? Gak or goop? What was the slime?
Starting point is 00:41:08 Gak, yeah. I never knew what it smelled like, but I always knew what it smelled like. Oh, you didn't ever have any? I don't think so. You could buy them, right? I had it and I had floam. Did you ever have floam? No.
Starting point is 00:41:22 I had floam. Floam was like the beady probably is like killing whales like permanently right now yeah it was like micro beads that you could like move into shapes and stuff it was so fun where did you grow up i grew up in evanston illinois right outside of chicago okay this is of course famous story pirates culture it is i know we'll we'll talk we'll touch on that a little bit later but that this is that's so funny because i feel like any suburban kid that grew up with nickelodeon i just picture myself when i was that age like drinking so much soda oh my god because like that was so i just remember drinking so much soda in my basement, like running around in circles and like waiting for the next show to come on.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Like, oh, I feel excited. It was so 90s culture to be like, oh yeah, there's a lot of soda in the house with the kids watch Nickelodeon. We don't even care the kids running around tuckering themselves out. Why was it okay? Like I drink Coke more than I drink water for sure.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Like I don't remember drinking water. 100%. It was like there was always coke and sprite on the table when i was growing up we had coke sprite you might have minute made in a can yeah um oh and the concentrate yeah yeah oh fuck yes dr pepper sorry i cut you off i cut you off no mountain dew i mean you know i had phases like dr pepper was like a summer like mountain dew Mountain Dew was a summer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Like, there were just like moments where you'd be like, I'm going to try this new one. And then it was everything. But like, it was fully like that all the time, watching TV all summer long. I don't know. It's just the best feeling ever. It feels so good.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Like, I mean, and now we have to do it and it feels bad. I don't know. I know. I know. It's so funny because if you went back in time and told like little kid me like, hey, like when you grow up, you're going to write for TV. And sometimes it's even going because if you went back in time and told like little kid me like hey like when you grow up you're gonna write for tv and sometimes it's even gonna be animated isn't that cool like he'd be like fuck yeah and now i'm like oh i have work
Starting point is 00:43:14 but see on the other side of that it's like every people are like mentioning this or like commenting on this thing where it's like it does feel like we're all like adolescents in a way. Like we're like right now. Yeah. We're like latchkey kids. We're like home alone before our parents or whatever. It's like we just got to like kill time the same way as we did like when we were like 12 year olds in summer. No, it's so true.
Starting point is 00:43:38 And I think I actually have gone through like waves with this. We're like at first I was like, OK, I watch TV all day. I smoke weed i do whatever i want at all hours and i stay up all night on my phone like i can do whatever i want and then like a couple weeks and i was like this is probably not good and then like a couple weeks later i was like okay now i'm gonna have a schedule like i just like which i think is what my kid self would do too like right okay guys just because mom and dad aren't here doesn't mean we have to be bad all the time like we have to actually get stuff done wait you know what i think is a good idea for you did you see and and also like bell
Starting point is 00:44:10 and this is an idea for us as well did you see that they are rebooting legends of the hidden temple on quibi i did see that wait what is the story with that yeah you knew more girl i think it's just that they are literally kids and it's not kids it's for adults and it's going to be like more adult challenges i think that they're specifically catering to the kids that grew up with that which is i think so smart and it's going to be like essentially it's going to be like survivor-esque like real physical challenges like not like you have to spin its head it's like you know you have to do like crazy stuff and so i think you and your husband should go on it i would literally love that i would love that so much wait did you
Starting point is 00:44:52 see that they have a reboot of say by the bell coming and tracy wigfield wrote it and it like looks good it looks like edgy and cool i'm sure it's gonna be good it looks like funny i'm so excited if tracy's doing it yeah of course i was like trying to figure out who wrote it because it was so funny i was like i had to google after i saw the trailer because i was like this is hilarious and all the like original people are coming back and being like cool now like as actors like they get to do like a kind of funny version of their old character right right but see no but this is a specific thing that not enough people are doing, which is to reboot kids game shows from the nineties or the aughts, but have the contestants age had to have aged up.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Like you do like bad example, bad pitch, but like adult where we're in the world is Carmen San Diego, but it's like edgy and sexy or whatever. I don't know. I love that. They're reboot. They are rebooting Carmen San Diego and you know,
Starting point is 00:45:42 who's in it. Who? Ms. Gina, Gina Davis, Gina Rodriguez, Gina Davis. They are rebooting Carmen Sandiego, and you know who's in it. Who? Miss Gina. Gina Davis? Gina Rodriguez. Honey, Miss Gina Davis. Honestly, I would gag.
Starting point is 00:45:52 She's like, I'm Carmen. She's like, I'm Carmen Sandiego. No, honey, it's Miss Gina Rodriguez. Oh my God, that's amazing. Wait, is it a show, or what is it? It's a Netflix thing. I don't know if it's a movie or if it's a show. No, but that's different.
Starting point is 00:46:05 No, but you need game shows. I agree with you. It's not like, oh, edgy, Sabrina the Teenage Witch. It's not that. It's like you need game shows where the,
Starting point is 00:46:14 it's like this Legends of the Hidden Temple thing is brilliant because it's a kid's game show from the 90s, early aughts with adult contestants now. Like that's what you need more of. And do you think if like, was Carmen Sandiego like a's what you need more of and do you think
Starting point is 00:46:25 if like was carmen sandio a geography show like it's questions where you have yeah so it's not super sexy but like like something where like you can repurpose the container well i think it'd be really funny to watch adults like get geography wrong like i would be horrible at it yeah i would terrible you know what is that show are youarter Than a Fifth Grader still on? That actually was such a funny show. That is a funny show. It was hard. Well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:46:50 It was really hard. I'm on this upcoming season, this current season of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire. Wait, we have to talk. I was on Millionaire too. You were? Are you on like a celebrity version? Celebrity? It is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Yeah, I don't know how I got into this situation. I was on a normal person version. Oh my God. It was like two years ago. Who was the host? Chris Harrison. Okay, I'm freaking out. Wait, is it online? Yeah, it's online.
Starting point is 00:47:18 I will watch the shit on this today. I always love to spill tea about this. I can't wait to hear. I went to go do it. And literally, I was able to pick a friend to come with me to come be my plus one. So Sudi and I went to go do it in Las Vegas. They fly you out. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Yeah, it was insane. We stayed at the Mandalay Bay. And it was this whole thing. And so we in and chris harrison is the host and you can just tell he's like check the fuck out he has been hosting for 25 years like straight up non-stop yeah it's crazy the bachelor i was saying if anyone out there you might have fans who would be willing to do this i really want like somebody to do a super cut of chris harrison saying every name of every person has been on The Bachelor or Bachelorette like every just every single name.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Amanda. Yes. Someone needs to do that. Also you watching The Bachelor is very funny on Insta. It's my favorite thing. I started watching Listen to Your Heart and now I'm doing watch alongs on my Patreon where you can sync it up and hear my commentary on the show.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Oh, because I was doing like a trillion Instagram live stories and i was like this is killing me okay wait tell me the million all right so here's the t is like you can watch it it is it is online like you can find it i i ended up winning five thousand dollars i was on two episodes because like sudi and i like answered a question and like it was at the end and it was a whole like tv moment where we're like are they gonna get it and then they ended they ended it after we got it so i came on the next episode so what they make you do is it's not actually the next day obviously you just change your outfit and then you go offset and you walk on and they didn't really go through with me like what the cues were gonna be for me to walk on so i ended up coming on like a little early or whatever
Starting point is 00:49:02 and i guess i guess i turned to the audience and made like a face and they laughed and curse harrison didn't like that and so i did my entrance and he did that thing when he shook my hand of like shaking your hand and pulling you in like sort of like not not for nothing but like how trump does like like is he like was he trying to like assert dominance? And like, to be an alpha, to be an alpha. I think that's what was happening. And so I kind of got like knocked off my feet a little bit.
Starting point is 00:49:31 And you can even see in the video, I'm like a little thrown off by it. And then I wheel around to my podium and I can see on my face, I was like not happy. And I remember like he really pulled my hand. I cannot wait to watch this. To make me feel like a little boy. You know what I mean? Like he was definitely I think it was maybe like the end of a long day for him and he was just not hiding it. Well, like you could tell that he was really not happy that I had even for a second slowed things down and it wasn't a big deal. Yeah, but he doesn't he doesn't exude a joyful presence let's just say
Starting point is 00:50:07 that but he has to present as like a blank slate like all the time honey the blankest funniest way to put it he does as a blank slate he like has to be invisible in some way like he's letting the action happen around him right right yeah but you compare him to someone like jeff probst he's not even in the league no like survivor is jeff probst the bachelor is not what's his face i don't even know no but they're in some ways it is like i feel like the people on the show make it as though he is the point of the show. Like when they leave, like he is their center. Like he's kind of like the nucleus and like everyone returns to him after the show,
Starting point is 00:50:50 after they're off the show and it's the way to stay attached to the show. Yeah, they're always like, well, you know, if Chris shows up, you know it's bad news and it's like, oh God. And then on Survivor,
Starting point is 00:50:59 they're like, oh, here comes Jeff and you as the viewer are like, Jeff's here. Jeff's here, something's going down. But for me, when Chris Harrison comes on, I'm like, I don't care about this. the viewer are like, Jeff's here. Jeff's here. Something's going down. But for me, when Chris Harrison comes on, I'm like, I don't care about this.
Starting point is 00:51:06 You're a mouthpiece for the producers. For me, I always believe it's Jeff. Oh, that makes sense. See, I don't watch Survivor, but I've been told I need to. I'm going to start. Wait, Lauren,
Starting point is 00:51:16 you and I should start on similar timelines because I've been getting all sorts of information. You should start with this season, this season, this season. Okay, yeah. We should find out
Starting point is 00:51:24 what the best one is. I can tell you,'s it's the my favorite thing that i have done for myself is get into survivor during quarantine it is so good it is such a good show and you forget because like i'll watch it tonight i'm sure it was this like thing i mean what else am i doing yeah truly it's was it like this thing in your culture that you always knew was there it's been on for 40 seasons so it's like it's been on there our whole like childhood and adult life and you forget but it is so good like even the weaker seasons like it's always so compelling that's so awesome yeah mary loves survivor she's obsessed i'm gonna contact her about it you must contact her well you really find out people come out of the woodwork like when i when i said i was watching survivor and
Starting point is 00:52:03 i'm actually i can announce right now i'm doing as an online survivor like it's gonna start soon what does that mean it's this thing called survivor quarantine i don't know what it is but i'm on the quote-unquote second season of it and i will keep everyone informed just like what that means oh my god i am doing it i want to watch that i was essentially cast they were like hey would you want to do this? We see that you left Survivor and I was like, yeah. I love that.
Starting point is 00:52:28 I'm really excited, but it's true. I said I was into it and all of a sudden, these people I had no idea were like, I'm obsessed with that. I've watched it for 20 years.
Starting point is 00:52:40 I didn't know you were into it and I was like, I'm really not, but this whole community is hiding in the shadows. But now they've really come out into the light that's that's like all i'm seeing on like the socials now it's like people this is the thing i do feel like from this quarantine like everyone is sharing a lot more of their personal life like not even necessarily on a super deep level but stuff like that where it's like they normally wouldn't tweet about that
Starting point is 00:53:03 show but now they're like looking to engage with people about it because they want connection yes which is nice that it is nice i do think it's a nice side effect like of our social media addiction at least we have this right now so like i do think it's helping me feel more connected to people but right where normally i might feel bummed about it but totally there's a couple friends in la that i think i see more now than beforehand because we're like playing games on zoom every now and then and like you know it's like you you feel like you're compelled to keep up with people um whereas before you kind of took it for granted and i do think there was something you know my boyfriend reposted something that i thought was really an interesting way to um say this and i'm going to read it out loud because i thought it was really
Starting point is 00:53:45 interesting uh it was the tweet that he posted today in his story he said it's it's a tweet from ashley c ford who you can follow at i i smash fizzle um and she said you are watching people go through withdrawal from the emotional addiction to the myth of certainty yeah i have to think about that yeah i actually had to walk it back for a second too but it's pretty interesting like we all really take for granted that there's gonna be more time that's so true i mean i think like you know when you're living your life it's so easy to forget about that and then you'll see something like i always think about chris kelly's movie other people because i just think that title is the movie is amazing but the title is so
Starting point is 00:54:27 relatable that you think these things happen to other people and this is the the first thing we've had in our lifetime where it's happening to everyone at the same time and we're all going like oh shit yeah i i'm i'm interested to see down the road what it has done to the consciousness for sure. Totally. Chris Kelly, another Survivor watcher. Oh, this is him too. I want to say something really quick about Jeff Probst. And this is just my general theory about like what makes a good reality show host. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Go. Jeff Probst, Padma Lakshmi, like RuPaul. These are people who like embody what the show is about. And like the goal is to try to impress and please the host like these people as the host whether or not they're judges or whatever is like kind of not relevant but like chris harrison you're like no like the women aren't there to like impress or please chris harrison and so that he does not feel like a vital part of these like ethoses it's just like oh like these hosts that are like like even like heidi klum and tim gunn it's like oh these are like oh, these hosts that are even like Heidi Klum and Tim Gunn, it's like, oh, these are people that you respect, that you're like,
Starting point is 00:55:28 we have to... They embody what the show is about. You either have gravitas or you don't. Sure. But above that... And that's a rule of culture. You either have gravitas or you don't. That's rule of culture number...
Starting point is 00:55:43 2014. Rule of culture number 2014. Rural Culture number 2014. Now, I feel like Chris Harrison, people can make the argument that he does have gravitas. I feel like he is a blank slate. He presents as a blank slate. Well, those people shouldn't become lawyers. And that's what I'd say.
Starting point is 00:56:00 It's a Rural Culture number 20. Honey, if you think Chris Harrison has gravitas you should become a lawyer absolutely i just threw my socks now before we take another break i do want to just get from you the true intel on television shows of that time so could you maybe rank the shows from that time like i'm talking the animated shows that everyone was watching from nickelodeon what are your favorites what what ones do you think never really found it blank just shows from that time like i'm talking the animated shows that everyone was watching from nickelodeon what are your favorites what what ones do you think never really found it like what are
Starting point is 00:56:29 the shows that that you feel are the most culturally imperative from that time period i would say i always feel ren and stimpy is one of them because it's disgusting it's beautifully drawn it's funny and the characters are very clear. I love that show. That one's that. And then it's also like the art is you can kind of stand alone as like beautiful pieces of art.
Starting point is 00:56:52 It's just very well done and very interesting. I would say Doug comes in with the storytelling. Doug has heart. Doug is like, Doug is like Arthur before there was Arthur.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Like Doug is like a meaningful relatable but he's very sappy and he's very like emotional romantic um he's never satisfied well drawn emotionally and physically yes um rugrats that's one that i actually i i think is like very um pleasing in its chaotic energy. It kind of has a frenetic sort of style to the drawing. It has perspective of the...
Starting point is 00:57:33 So when you're watching it as a child, it's funny because it's like your perspective and like how babies... It's like, that's what the babies are thinking, which is basically what I am
Starting point is 00:57:41 when I'm five or six or seven. And then as you get older, you can watch it from the parents' perspective and it's funny in that way. Yes, yes. I love that. No, sorry. I was just pointing just to emphatically agree.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Keep going. Oh, okay. Podcasts are a visual medium. I would say, though, Arthur, I did mention Arthur and it's not from Nickelodeon. That is one that I would rush home to watch after school. Was that PBS? PBS. That's just to watch after school and I love PBS PBS that's just a sweet show and like I could still quote it and I love how they would also do that
Starting point is 00:58:10 kind of thing where they would go to like kids schools in real life and show like a clip from the kids yeah and then they would like have a moment on Arthur and that was very sweet those are my tops I think actually I think those are my faves but do you have anything you would add see i honestly for me like i feel like the one that really exists in my mind still is um rugrats and i but but i every now and then i will get flashes back to rocco's modern life yes and the i remember like just the broad comedic choices I thought were so funny at the time. And it's interesting because me as a child would not have said
Starting point is 00:58:53 that was one of my favorite shows. But I think me as an adult, what stuck with me, that must mean something, is the fact that I still remember, like, he would, like, this is insane, but Rocco got, got like flung from one
Starting point is 00:59:06 house to another one time and landed and like his neighbors like huge tits and the woman the woman just goes how dare you and I was just like that is so funny to me just like so many things like I feel like I don't I don't I don't watch children's shows now really so i can't really say but it feels like we were in a time where like they were doing edgier stuff like that like i feel like peewee's playhouse was another thing i was gonna say as my culture yes yes because it was like it's kind of got a whole like undertone to it that you just don't get as a kid and it's so funny for the adults like there's something weird happening at all times for everyone in the room like I love that there was
Starting point is 00:59:47 there was like a sense of danger to those shows that like you don't really get like stuff now might be a little too sanitized again I don't know I'm not watching this but it seems like that like I feel like Ren and Stimpy like they would like zoom in on someone's ass and they'd be like on their butt and it's like no one's doing
Starting point is 01:00:04 that there was so much, there was butt crack in every show. This is my, this is my theory. No one's zooming in on butt crack. No, this is my theory on why we were able to get away with a lot and see a lot as kids because our parents were the baby boomer generation and the baby boomer
Starting point is 01:00:22 generation, the way they like played and the way that they did things is they just went out on their bike and rode around you like they like my dad when he was young in the early 60s like he would ride his bike from his house on Long Island to Shea Stadium and like seriously like and ride his ride his like bike back or I don't know exactly where they lived he moved around a lot but they were so much more free as children that i don't think it was top of mind for them to be like monitoring and watching what we as children were consuming as much as gen x parents and millennial parents
Starting point is 01:00:57 especially millennial parents are now and maybe what do you think parents are a little bit more lenient i don't know i think it's just i think it's just the way you learn to parent the way you were parented and you're you're gonna like either be over corrective or do the same thing i remember my my parents like i was down in the basement watching whatever the fuck and then every now and then they would come down and it would be like mtv and they'd be like turn it off and you're forbidden to watch this so of course they're gonna think i'm fine with like nickelodeon but i don't think they knew and or cared about the rampant butt crack they did they didn't have the media literacy to like draw the lines in any like defined way so like it was just very arbitrary and random they'd be like
Starting point is 01:01:39 mad stop watching real world or whatever well i guess it must have been weird too because the tv was like suddenly more and more things were available as we were growing up like we didn't have cable for a bit then we had cable and then that opens up a whole nother thing i interrupted what you're gonna say no no no no but that's that's that's my point is like now you have you have gen x and millennial parents who are like who understand what's out there and like have a pretty like um macroscopic view of like all the crazy garbage that's out there that could potentially like that they kind of are clutching their pearls out like if i was a kid and like god there were so many butt cracks and running stimpy like i better i better make sure that my kids
Starting point is 01:02:14 aren't watching butt crack well i mean it's kind of true when you think about like us all getting the internet at a certain point and then like the things you saw and did on there that were unsavory and then we were children doing these things and so as you as you saw and did on there that were unsavory and then we were children doing these things and so as you as you have kids of your own it's like okay i know what's on the internet so i definitely don't want you to go look at the insane porn or whatever right right yeah i remember i remember the day like parental controls were invented like it was like i was like i was like eight or nine years old and it was like this thing now on AOL where it was called
Starting point is 01:02:47 parental controls. I remember really trying to keep it a secret from my parents. You read the press release. It was like one day there wasn't and then one day there was. I was like, oh, I have to keep this from my parents so they don't stop me from going in any old chat room, which I now know, looking back, had
Starting point is 01:03:03 oh, thousands of pedos in it probably but i know did you ever watch to catch a predator yes that show is so disturbing yeah dark dark dark i kind of loved it but it's so disturbing and you know that i was thinking about um how uh like that that sort of programming that was for quote-unquote for kids when we were younger like didn't talk down to the kids and like um that's i think why we enjoyed it and also parents could enjoy it it sort of does remind me of story pirates which you are also a story pirate we all have story pirates legacy yes yeah and i was just thinking about how that was something, I don't know about you, you probably knew everyone from way back. From Evanston.
Starting point is 01:03:48 I didn't actually. I moved to New York and joined Story Pirates. I guess someone must have recommended it to me. I can't remember who the initial connection was, but then Duke Doyle was a part of it and we went to high school together, but I didn't know that he was a part of it. So it was kind of this thing. That's so interesting. And then I didn't go to Northwestern together but i didn't know that he was a part of it so it was kind of this like thing and then i didn't go to northwestern so i didn't know any
Starting point is 01:04:07 of those people so it was all you didn't go to northwest no no i'm just i just grew up down the street from it but i like joined and then everyone had lived in evanston so it's kind of a nice connection to have with people where you feel like you're sort of from the same place yeah when did you meet lauren ashley smith for, for everyone that doesn't know story pirates is a group. It's in New York and LA. And what they do is Bowen, myself and Lauren are all in it. And it's like hundreds of actors and comedians and singers and dancers,
Starting point is 01:04:37 et cetera, who take stories that are written by kids. And then we pick some of them and stage them as like little sketch comedy shows. And we go to the schools and perform them as like little sketch comedy shows and we go to the schools and perform those stories for the kids and it's a surprise they don't know that there are some of their stories are going to be performed in front of their eyes and it's just like encouraging them to write and be creative and it's really really fun and so that's what we're talking about i just wanted to make sure the school shows were some of my favorite shows to
Starting point is 01:05:02 do because because we would do some at at theaters and other places as well. But the school shows were so touching because the kids have such a heartwarming reaction to it. Yeah. And just even being excited for each other. If it wasn't their story, but it was their friend, they're so excited. They are all supportive. Maybe there is and we just don't see it, but there's no air of jealousy or contempt whenever you would announce the kid's story was being staged. Right, no one's going like, oh man, it's not mine.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Exactly. I think what helps is there's like 400 kids watching and we do like five. And it's not like, okay, 98% of you were chosen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. My story with how I met Lauren Ashley Smith is kind of interesting because I had joined Story Pirates and then at the time I was really into using Tumblr. So I searched Story Pirates on Tumblr and I found her blog. Oh, great.
Starting point is 01:05:53 And her name was Lauren and she was in Story Pirates. And I was like, my name's Lauren Ashley Smith. But I hadn't started yet, so I hadn't met anyone. So I followed her and we like started following each other and we would message a little bit. And then we finally got to meet like at a story pirates rehearsal thing and we're like lifelong friends ever since i met some very good friends from that and that's i i'll remember i always remember a couple things from it which is how good it felt to do those stories for the kids and you know that that feeling of empowering them and you know the
Starting point is 01:06:25 teachers that would come up after with tears in their eyes and being like you guys picked you guys picked exactly the right kid it felt like that always happened um that so i'll always remember that and i'll always remember the great people that i met doing it and everyone you know always on the same page because it didn't pay much money but it was just some really good community and always i always knew when someone was in story parts that i already liked them yeah i feel the you know, always on the same page because it didn't pay much money, but it was just some really good community. And always, I always knew when someone was in Story Pirates that I already liked them. Yeah, I feel the same way. It was my first like little comedy community
Starting point is 01:06:52 after college, like before UCB even, because I was just taking classes. And I was just like, oh, well, you know, I'm just meeting people here and there through classes. But like Story Pirates just felt like there was like this purpose and direction and like uh around getting better at performance because they really do drill into you like in the trainings like basic like commedia dell'arte principles and like
Starting point is 01:07:14 really like fundamental things about performance that like no one ever really tells you out outright yeah it was really helpful with like being super clear and like having a point of view and just like sticking to one thing. Like it's really helpful with all that stuff. Yeah. I always forget about how like fundamental it was in my education as a performer. You're right about the clarity because it's kids watching it. And so even though some of the content is just goofy and sometimes like they don't even know it, but the kids have written an edgy thing. And we as adults performing for kids are like, we're going to do this and say, well, the kid wrote it.
Starting point is 01:07:51 But it really was because kids are watching it. You essentially have to perform as like a two dimensional character on stage, which I'm sure for the three of us is like kind of a thrill as people who have the ability to be be super perhaps even too big um but yeah while we're saying this i do want to say like in this time of quarantine you know they're not doing shows so you could definitely donate to worse places than storypirates.com if you have oh my god yes and they have a podcast if you're home with your kids they have a podcast that's obviously safe for kids to listen to. Two albums on Spotify, too. Two albums on Spotify. They're wonderful.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Lauren, what was your favorite story to perform? Do you have one? Oh, wow. Oh, I'm trying to remember. I did one. I remember doing one that was very exciting for me because I was like the lead of the story and it was about a ballerina and angelica houston
Starting point is 01:08:46 was in the audience so i remember being like oh my god yeah so that was cool um i always liked there was this one song that was um cars crashing into robots do you know that one yeah yeah it's a song right and i had a dance and I always liked, I always loved, because you know, in Story of Pirates, some people are really good singers and I wouldn't put myself in that category,
Starting point is 01:09:09 but I love performing with really good singers and they just like crush it and like, there's something about like singing this like simple children's song but like really well
Starting point is 01:09:18 and like doing a dance. It's like thrilling. Yeah. It's like showmanship. It's like, you're all like working towards some common goal together. Yeah. like showmanship it's like you're all like working towards some common goal together yeah um so man i feel like you wait what i was gonna say there was one where that i
Starting point is 01:09:33 was directing and you were in the cast and we went to austin texas and i used to go to austin texas every year with story pirates in fact one time i got chased out of a bar um because someone's it was after the show we all went out in aust and someone, we went to a taco truck and I felt the guy took my money from me. And of course I was like too drunk so that I got like, I had to be like kicked out of this bar in Austin on a story by a strip. We might have to cut that out. Maybe not. But anyway, I remember the story that we did was I wrote it or adapted it based on what the kid had written.
Starting point is 01:10:08 And it was called When You See Me Dance. Bowen, do you remember? I love this story. It was about this little girl who the mother was very mean. And the mother was like, you can't dance. That's not what we do. Now do your homework. And she's like, but you haven't even seen me dance.
Starting point is 01:10:24 And when you see me dance, I know you'll change your mind and like i made it into this song and bowen played the mother and bowen so smart it was very sweet at the end how to run through the aisle i had him come through there was like the stadium seating in this elementary school for some reason and i had him come all the way down the stairs watching chrissy shackelford like dance and he was like i'm watching her dance and i'm changing my mind i love that and do you remember the song bowen i it's it's like tucked away like as soon as you sing the first two notes like like, I'll know what you did. It was, when you see me dance, it will change your mind. When you see me dance,
Starting point is 01:11:10 you're gonna change your mind. Wait, that's not how it went. I love that. Yes, that was how it went. Wow, wow. I mean, it was a beautiful story. And I'll just never forget Bowen singing it. That sounds beautiful.
Starting point is 01:11:23 When You See Me Dance sounds like a movie that wins Sundance or something. It just is like a cool, interesting title for something. I remember I was reading it. The kid wrote it, and it was so purposefully written. She was like, my mother wouldn't let me dance. And I thought to myself, when you see me dance, you will change your mind. And I was just just like this is it
Starting point is 01:11:45 like this is jumping off the page it's so good bowen what's yours my my favorite stock story is apple land which um you are so good at apple land lauren did you ever did you ever see apple land lauren ashley's las did did it a couple times i don't know if i know that one how did it go okay so basically it's it's so crazy it's um this whoever introduces is like this next story is written by someone named cianni and it's called apple land and then i come out let's just say i'm i'm driving us and i go hey what's up you guys my name is cianni and i am going to tell you guys about the most amazing apple filled place it's called Apple Land okay do you guys want to know how to get there oh no no
Starting point is 01:12:27 then I bring out my three best friends to tell them how to get there and I'm getting them hyped up about Apple Land and then I'm like okay it's basically this like this like Beckett play where like I'm screaming it's amazing it's amazing and I'm screaming at my friends for not getting it right for not following
Starting point is 01:12:44 my directions and then like you never get to apple land and i fully have a nervous breakdown in the story it's it's truly i love that good in it i remember like it was like a legend i i thought i knew like i thought i knew what bone could do oh and then i saw bone perform apple land i was always that kid that i was the kid i was always that one that was doing wanted to do the musical stories and even though apple land was not a musical story i loved that one it was a fun that one i mean that sounds so funny it sounds it's like the way you describe it is the perfect story pirate sort of setup like it's just one person's got a whole thing they bring in their friends they tell each friend and then
Starting point is 01:13:22 they do the next thing it's like very fun it's very satisfying so good i i miss story pirates a lot yeah it's so sweet yeah it's a great little great little comp and that's a show for company um it's a great little comp the little comp that could um so listen here's what we're gonna do we're gonna take a little break and we're gonna be be back with Lauren Lapkus. The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is. Joined by elite new friends. Rebecca Minkoff.
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Starting point is 01:17:10 Can you tell us, was that joke in the script? That thing of Jake going up to Jesse and you being like, I have a boyfriend? No. So it was like, we kind of, we shot two versions. So we shot one where we kissed and it was kind of like the underdogs getting their moment of you know the nerd moment of like because initially i believe what it was was that initially um bryce dallas howard and chris pratt did not kiss in the script but then they had a passionate kiss within a sure did right that was improvised but but great this is my understanding i could be
Starting point is 01:17:42 incorrect but i think that's true wow great and so we shot both ways because they weren't sure if they were going to use that because that wasn't intended. Right. Oh my God. Or if we would have, because initially it was supposed to be funny that we were the ones who have the kiss because that's unexpected. Right. And then we shot a version where we improvised the boyfriend thing of like, let's just go
Starting point is 01:18:02 back and forth with like what you would say. Yeah. I don't want to kiss you. you know so that was very fun it's the standout moment of the whole film oh thanks number one best part of the movie thank you well i i that's a lie the best part of the movie is dallas howard out running a t-rex in in heels kitten heels yeah And of course, Bryce Dallas Howard's hair. Yes. She's perfect in the whole thing. I love Bryce Dallas. I'm a Bryce Dallas Howard stan.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Bryce Dallas Howard stan. I'm a Bryce Dallas Howard stan. Bryce Dallas Howard. It's actually rule of culture number 31. It's Bryce Dallas Howard. What is she like? She was was so nice she was really cool and she showed me that she can cry out of whichever eye you tell her to yeah she's done that on late night shows she's really good she was like yeah tell me
Starting point is 01:18:57 what's on and i was like that one and she was like and then like a tear just popped out i was like so jealous to me that's also an iconic part of dress up is when the Indominus Rex has its face coming around the thing and she just turns to one side and a single tear rolls down her eye. I'm like, come on. So good. She's giving it everything to this film. I want to do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:19 It was literally, Bowen and I said to each other, we couldn't believe, we respected that movie so much that they did that joke of oh I have a boyfriend like it was so unexpected well the director Colin Trevorrow he like he has like a comedic background too he did like a that indie movie Safety Not Guaranteed
Starting point is 01:19:38 with Jake Johnson before that was like his bigger that was like the movie he had done right before he did Jurassic World so he has a sense of humor and that was great to be able to do something funny in that movie. Yeah, that rocked. And I thought, I think that Jurassic World sometimes gets an unfair shake because I think it's really fun. And my number one problem with Jurassic Park is I felt like you didn't see enough of the theme park. Like when you say like Donna's Dinosaur theme park, like I want to see that.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Yeah. Well, and I think that that movie Jurassic world has a lot of great, like the, the mastodon eating the thing, eating the thing or whatever, you know, it's like,
Starting point is 01:20:12 I don't even know the names of all the things, but it's so shocking. It was drag. It was drag, which is what I want from those movies. Like Jurassic world, fallen kingdom. It wasn't drag.
Starting point is 01:20:21 It wasn't like camp. Like that's why I like rise of Skywalker is because it was drag and camp. And for the young gay girls, I can't like camp like that's why i like rise of skywalker is because it was drag and camp and for the young gay girls i can't wait to watch the young gay girl i'm actually excited now that you said that oh it's for the young gay girls let me tell you we got we got kerry russell in a fucking skin tight uh the bounty hunter outfit we got a little little guy named babu frick oh girl it's it's It's for the... And then, honestly, it goes down with Kylo Ren and Ms. Rey. And it goes down.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Okay, really? Oh, my God. Nicole and I are going to freak out. We wrote fan fiction that's like literally porn about them. Oh, my God. Literally, when it goes down between Ms. Rey and Kylo Ren,
Starting point is 01:21:00 I scream. I was with Matt Whitaker. We saw it in 4DX. Our chairs were spinning. It was a roller. What is 4D? It's a play? Honey, girl. Basically. It's a theme park ride. It was basically a theme park ride. Oh,
Starting point is 01:21:13 I never heard of that. The chair is moving. Anytime there's water, you get fully sprayed in the face. It's iconic. Wow. And the best special effect is what has the chemistry between Miss Daisy Ridley and Adam Driver. And when it went down between them, I literally screamed in the theater, yes! I was so into it.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Wow. Okay, good. We were like, this is the horniest movie. The Last Jedi is so horny. They're like, they want each other so bad and then nothing really happens. It's really disappointing. You will love it. I haven't seen it either.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Now I'm going to decide between Survivor and Last Jedi or Rise of Skywalker. Both great epic pieces of content. Maybe you should start Survivor with Lauren and then also virtually watch Rise of Skywalker
Starting point is 01:22:00 at the same time as Lauren. Matt, you need to say what Survivor we need to watch because I don't want to just waste my time with some season that's not that good. So here's the deal. I would say, ordinarily, I would say you should start with an early season to sort of get acclimated
Starting point is 01:22:16 to what the rules are. But you know what the rules are. It's 16 people on an island or wherever. They split up into two tribes. The tribes compete and one one wins and they have to vote and the other team has to vote someone out it whittles down to yeah there's a merge etc so you get that so yeah with that being said and this is for all the readers as well i would start with season seven which is pearl islands this is what i would do season seven
Starting point is 01:22:41 pearl island seven of 40 what of 40 then season 13 which is cook islands and then personally for me i would follow the journey of parvati the character parvati or the contestant parvati she is real um which is season 17 micronesia and then we'll talk okay that feels like enough homework yeah i mean that's three seasons she did write it down we can we can improve she wrote it down and um that's what i'll say about that but listen it's actually in fact time for i don't think so honey yeah it's time it is time and matt's coming in hot with an already controversial one that he's given away but i can't wait to hear the points around it so do you want to start i'll start okay all right this is matt rogers i don't think so honey his time starts
Starting point is 01:23:31 now i don't think so honey fetch the bolt cutters i i just i try so hard and i also really don't think so honey that i know i'm wrong and the attitude around it but i'm sorry this is the same reason why i don't like wes anderson because I don't think so honey Wes Anderson I don't want to listen to a song that was obviously inspired by like the way a cracker dissolved in my hot hot soup it's like this twee stuff that I really don't like honestly I don't think so honey that people are so obsessed with this album because I saw girls in Brooklyn do this same kind of music the same type of way I don't understand what's so new and special about it beside the fact that it's you obviously
Starting point is 01:24:08 miss Fiona Apple honey I saw tune yards do this eight years ago in Brooklyn and I guess what I didn't like it then and it almost led to the breakup of my then relationship because I was like I can't even pretend to like this and he got mad at me and he is one of
Starting point is 01:24:24 you the people out there who act superior because I don't get I can't even pretend to like this. And he got mad at me. And he is one of you, the people out there who act superior. Five seconds. Because I don't get this Fiona Apple thing, but it's a bunch of nickels in a jar getting shaken around and someone singing like a rabbit over it. I don't think so, honey. Okay, and that's one minute. I just don't get it.
Starting point is 01:24:37 I haven't listened to it yet. I can't weigh in. I don't know yet. That's okay. I feel like, Matt, the only thing that I will agree with you on is that it is very similar to early tune yards where it's like, okay, it's like,
Starting point is 01:24:48 it's not fully novel. I mean, the, the, the, the thing that people are like freaking out about is like the, the novelty around like what she's doing with like instruments and how like she like basically like produced it from home and like,
Starting point is 01:25:00 you know, like there's, there's, there's, there's all this like fun Lord to it. That's very like on the nose, Fiona Apple, like she's's tapping on it she's tapping on a box with the with her dog bones in it like it's like stuff like that it's like the the mythos of fiona is like suffused through the whole thing and so people are like loving it which i mean if you if you
Starting point is 01:25:18 like have followed her album to album it's very satisfying but i get like for someone who hasn't really like latched on to it ever at any point like I get how that like feels I get how that feels like inaccessible but I don't I think it's a little reductive for you to call it twee though I mean maybe maybe maybe it's a misuse of the word but for me it's just like I understand that there's like powerful lyricism happening like I read the lyrics and I understand i get it but for me it's like um i just i i knew that when you when you rub two nickels together it makes a sound you know what i mean like that's not like a revolutionary 10 on pitchfork for me and so for me i guess what
Starting point is 01:25:58 i'm really i don't think so honeying at the core is this sort of like embellishment and hyperbolic like insane praise the album is getting because i think it's you know exactly what joanna newsom has done her entire career it's it's not quite okay whatever this is my well now but now i sound like a jerk and i'm like uh see but this is what i and this is the war that they're trying to start this is the war is they're trying to start a war between high and low class and and they've been trying to do that with me and bowen because i am famously low class and bowen is famously high class bowen is the atlantic where i am us weekly and that's actually the Pacific I was like how is the Pacific low brow well you know the Pacific has all the big sharks anyway no they don't um I did a shark claw um anyway that's what I think and I'll give it another shot but
Starting point is 01:27:01 I really tried guys I really tried hard to like this one. This is, this is the thing. Okay. And I also want to respond just to, to this, to this whole thing. Like I've seen girls in Brooklyn do this, but like,
Starting point is 01:27:13 like the thing is like Fiona, like basically invented, like having like, like banging on keyboards and like truly like having a full on meltdown in front of a piano. Did she invent it? I didn't realize. I feel like, I feel like she kind of did.
Starting point is 01:27:24 And just in terms of like culturally how we like assign meaning to um an artist like performing that like i think that's like that trope is i think like something that i respect her i really respect her and i would welcome her looking me in my eyes and saying fuck you i i like i would love it i i'm a fan it's just that it's the hyperbolic response to it which i'm like god you would think you were a fucking idiot for not liking this and it's just it's cuckoo sure sure wow okay but it's honestly maybe that's what i should go to therapy about maybe it's my own problem but i respect the difference of opinion i think it's fair i'm sure there are people who agree with you but it's just a where it's that thing where you're like i don't want
Starting point is 01:28:07 to say it yeah scared yeah okay i get it i get it i get it wow and here's the thing now is the time since my i don't think so honey has ended now is the time that we pass it on to bowen yang and he does one and i don't think so honey that is. And I'm actually just stalling because I got my stopwatch. Okay. Here we go. This is Bowen Yangs. I don't think so, honey. And his time starts now.
Starting point is 01:28:31 I don't think so, honey. Plants. Yes, I'm coming after plants on 420. But I have a beautiful Monstera sitting in the corner. I don't know if I'm watering it too much or not watering it enough. I look it up on the internet. It says water it once a week, but it seems like that's not enough
Starting point is 01:28:47 because the plants are, the leaves are yellowing and I'm leaving it in like a decently lit corner. I don't know what to do here. I don't know what it means to have a damn green thumb in this world anymore. How do you intuit any of this shit? No, plants, it's a scam. It's a scam for people like me to feel bad about themselves for
Starting point is 01:29:05 not being able to sustain life this way and plants you're busted you're done i'm done with you and you know what so what if the earth rots and if it means that you guys are gone and out of this world then 15 seconds good riddance plants while we're talking about i'm going to talk about weed indica you're not working for me anymore no indica is helping me fall asleep i still feel a little too five seconds on indica and plants in general including marijuana you're trash and that's one minute wow wow and then he thinks he could just live without plants it's so funny it's so funny but i actually really relate to you though because i've never kept a plant alive and And I have a fake plant behind me. It's gorgeous.
Starting point is 01:29:46 It doesn't matter. It always looks perfect. I can tell. You just aren't getting the right plants. You know who bought me a plant for my housewarming? Joel Kim Booster. Joel Kim Booster. And he got me a very good plant.
Starting point is 01:29:57 And the reason why it's very good is because it's, I don't know what it really is the deal with it is. Maybe it's a fern because you barely have to water it. That's what I need. I need something where where like i need something where it never needs water and then when it does it goes hey can you water me yeah like yeah i can't guess i have a succulent i've killed succulents before me too me too we're gonna have joel can booster reach out to you with the plant that he got me i would love to i think that you would enjoy this particular type of girl okay i think it's nice when people have plants in their house. I feel like it looks like.
Starting point is 01:30:27 Oh, I think it's the difference between nice decor and not. Whoa, hold on. I don't know. Some minimalists would slit your damn throat over that. The minimalist can come for me. Okay. But here's the thing. This is the thing about watering plants.
Starting point is 01:30:43 You don't water a plant and the plant's like, hey, me and the leaves start to go a little bit and you're like okay i'll water it and i keep watering it and the leaves don't get better right it's it's they're not like wolverine where they start to regenerate it's you never you can never win you never can win with the plant so there you go you're damned if you do damned if you don't it's like it's like having an opinion. Truly. In this country. In this country.
Starting point is 01:31:10 Okay, Lauren Lapkus, I think it's time for your I Don't Think So, Honey. Are you ready? I am. Okay, this is Lauren Lapkus's I Don't Think So, Honey. Her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Me not dusting under my bed for many months at a time. I don't know what I think I'm doing by not dusting under my bed. I think in my mind, it's kind of a, if I
Starting point is 01:31:26 don't see it, it's not there sort of situation because I will dust everything else around my bed. But then time comes when quarantine is time. And that's when I am inside now. And I am realizing I will do a deep clean. And I go under the bed and I realize there is a full animal made out of dust
Starting point is 01:31:42 that lives under the bed. And let me tell you i had my allergies done a couple years ago and i don't think so honey the only allergy i really have being dust mites so why do i not dust what is wrong with me why don't i respect myself i think it's a real it shows a real low self-esteem that i don't feel like i need to go under the bed once a week and get all that stuff out from under there two pets and i don't know what dust is, but it does make me feel really, really gross when I pull a huge pile of gray out from under my bed.
Starting point is 01:32:07 Oh, no. I am a gross human being. Five seconds. I am an adult, and I do not clean under my bed enough, and I don't think so. Honey! And that's one minute!
Starting point is 01:32:15 Very good. Perfect. Can I tell you, you gotta give yourself a break, because let me tell you what's hard to get to. That space under your bed. It really is.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Yes. You have to get down on your stomach with a swiffer on a thing and start pulling it's like not easy no way and and like well i gotta ask what's the what's the distance what's the height we're talking about of empty space um less than a foot still not enough yeah still not enough still still tight it's tight it's tight they also form so quickly like i i just moved to a new apartment and so i'm trying to at least in my beginning months being here like make it a habit of vacuuming and i'll be shocked sometimes like i'll have just vacuumed already they'll be like these like i
Starting point is 01:32:54 don't know maybe it's like where the way the light comes into my room or what i don't know but it really like you got to be on it to have a totally dust-free apartment do you sometimes think that vacuums like create their own dust within them? Because sometimes I'll empty the thing and then I'll vacuum again and it's full. I'm like, how is it full? There was that much on the ground? I don't know. I don't believe you.
Starting point is 01:33:16 It's also shocking when you vacuum and you see how much dust is in there from just a couple minutes. It's disgusting. I was living with this all around like this was in the air it's kind of like when you drive in la and like like that during the fire season in la when you see what happens to the outside of your car yes all the ashes and everything yeah sick yikes you're like this is what we breathe i know it's bad it's bad truly not good anything i'm happy that everyone heard that so that now they can know it's bad it's bad truly not good i'm happy that everyone heard that so that now they can know it's time to fucking vacuum you gotta get under there it's not easy but it's
Starting point is 01:33:52 you gotta do it i can't believe that like things that we can't even see are like fucking up the world right now including dust including dust i know i know well it's that's what it's it's so crazy this time i'm not saying anything new but like the idea of going outside and just being like is it gonna be here yeah yeah so crazy it makes everyone feel unsettled it's wild and i say dust i say you can't see dust but you can see it but in terms of like a single speck of dust it's got to collect no yeah you can't you can't see it i don't see it on my rug and then i vacuum and it's the biggest pile. No. Yeah. You can't see it. You can't see it. I don't see it on my rug and then I vacuum and it's the biggest pile of gray
Starting point is 01:34:27 that anyone's ever seen inside there and I'm like, uh, what? Excuse me? Yeah. It's like a damn crypt.
Starting point is 01:34:34 It's a damn crypt. You could tell me that I wasn't living in a damn crypt. If it were for the dust. Remember Legends of the Crypt? What was that show called? Tales from the Crypt?
Starting point is 01:34:43 Tales from the Crypt. Where is the Crypt Keeper? Bring him back. Good movie recommendation is Tales from the Crypt, Demon Knight. This has Billy Zane. This has Jada Pinkett. And this has CCH Pounder. And this is a movie that people should seek out.
Starting point is 01:35:03 It is absurd. It is Tales from the Crypt branded horror. And it cuckoo lulu crazy i love it i love it check that out i love jada i love red table talk i know we're like wrapping it up but i just want to know i've watched some red table talk too and i'm gonna say those ladies go there i love it i love it they really go there it's like my favorite online show yeah yeah they do they do yeah i mean anytime the kids are on huge what can we talk about quibi and how i just got it the other day and i started watching game show and it's so funny oh my god congratulations you have to be on the second season as a woman i would love to oh would love to. Oh my God, I love it. And Gabrus was so funny. It's so good. My partner.
Starting point is 01:35:50 He is a game show winner of the live version. It didn't go his way on game show on Quibi, but he is a very game partner. He's a veteran. Yeah, yeah. He's so great. He's so awesome. And he's the best.
Starting point is 01:36:00 And it was fun. And by the way, it's out now for all those readers who haven't yet watched it. And Quibi has a 90-day free trial. And I't work for quibi i'm just telling you this and also there's a show on there that i got into that was called um it's called murder house flip or something and it's like it's like houses where there was a horrible murder that people bought and then they have to flip it so they don't think about the murder all the time and it's really good yeah see that that's a really good show and i couldn't believe what it was about and now it kind of felt like it that like a lot of the criticisms that the reviews of quibi shows have been getting is like
Starting point is 01:36:32 it feels like a 30 rock joke and i'm like yeah but those 30 rock jokes are fun they are you would watch all of them yeah like and there's another show called dish mantled which is titus burgess host where it's like they literally rocket out of a cannon like a dish at these two chefs. And then the chefs have to like taste what's just been shot at them. And they have like 30 minutes to make that dish and whoever's closer wins $5,000.
Starting point is 01:36:58 And it's so funny. It's genius. It's literally five and a half minutes long. That's a thing. They have like Erica have like erica jane guest judging it it's like fun it's so stupid i like how short the things are for this weird time that we're in because i know it's kind of meant for being on the go but i i wanted to try it out and i've been using it while i do like a chore i'll be like okay i'll watch one quibi while
Starting point is 01:37:19 i do my setups and i'll watch one quibi while i do this other thing and so it kind of breaks things up wait you know what would be fun, which I'm just realizing is we should have you and you should be paired with my castle. Oh my God. I would love that. Oh my God. That doesn't happen. I love a good marital moment. On the live show, we had
Starting point is 01:37:37 Naomi Eckperg and Andy Beckerman and that was really fun. I love that couple. And I think they're so funny together. And Naomi is also like one of the, she needs to like skyrocket. I'm like waiting for this moment. She's so funny. One of the funniest people.
Starting point is 01:37:49 One of the fun, Naomi, Naomi is my boyfriend's favorite comedian. That is so funny. From way before we met, he was like, Oh my God. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:37:58 Do you know Naomi Ackpergen? She's my favorite comedian. She's so funny. I love her, her, just her perspective. She's just so so unique and my boyfriend doesn't does impressions of naomi and i say hold on now hold on now and then i told naomi that i have a jubu you do have a jubu i do i have a jubu but it's you can do an impression naomi she goes white women yeah well
Starting point is 01:38:26 that was good that's that's my tracy's my amanda's don't go jogging after dusk it's such a beautiful timeless like like whatever like cadence or something she yeah so good it's majestic majestic and regal yeah she is the best yeah the funniest ever but you know who else is the funniest and best ever is you lauren lapkus lauren thank you you guys are the best i'm so happy i got to do this this was so fun you and the thing is like we had uh ego wotum on the show last week and i was like oh we keep having these great remote episodes but you gotta come back so we can be in the flesh yes I'd love to do that too yeah come on the damn room in the damn oh my god I love Eggo oh my god and I learned SNL last weekend with um the from home
Starting point is 01:39:14 I thought it was really funny there's a lot of really good stuff yeah there's good stuff we might do it again we'll see I was thinking like last weekend I was like wait where is it but it's a lot to it's a lot to produce in one week from home I'm sure it was crazy, like last weekend, I was like, wait, where is it? But it's a lot to produce in one week from home. I'm sure it was crazy with like getting people all the props and cameras and things. I think that Saturday Night Live will be back. I really do. I really do. Of course.
Starting point is 01:39:35 We'll see. I think they're going to figure out a way to come back, that SNL. It's a dumb bit. Oh, I see. It's a dumb bit. I was like, what do you mean? Of course it's coming back. Seek out all of Lauren Lapkus.
Starting point is 01:39:48 Not that you really need to because the woman is everywhere. Watch me on Good Girls and I have a movie coming out called The Wrong Missy on Netflix. Yes, on Netflix. Oh my God, we didn't plug the Netflix movie. No, we're doing it now.
Starting point is 01:40:00 It's on May 13th, Netflix. The Wrong Missy on May 13th, yes. And watch, you're on Good Girls, which I love. I love Good Girls. Yeah, it's really fun. It's on may 13th yes on may 13th yes and watch you're on good girls which i love i love yeah it's really fun it's on nbc i love that damn cast did you get to work with christina hendrix i did i did she's so nice love her she had her cute dog on set and the dog was so sweet she's great wow love love we called we called her a gay icon to her face, Matt. Remember? Yep. It was fun. It was so great. And she was like, well, that's nice.
Starting point is 01:40:28 And I was like, no. It's important. All right. Well, this has been an absolutely stunning episode, and it's called War. I love War. You know the way we end every episode is with a song. All right. What I episode is with a song. All right.
Starting point is 01:40:45 What I need is a good defense. Because I'm feeling like a criminal. And I need to be redeemed. Oh my God. I completely go off. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 01:41:10 I'm NK, and this is Basket Case. What is wrong with me? A show about the ways that mental illness is shaped by not just biology, swaps of different meds, but by culture and society.
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