Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "We, Tonya" (w/ Tim Murray)
Episode Date: September 20, 2017Chirp chirp! Matt and Bowen, demanding a "good ol' fashioned queer" be in studio, summon the singular Tim Murray! Tim demands that Las Culturistas get INTO (what some might call) the defining trio of ...modern culture: Tonya Harding, Hillary Clinton, and Ellen Pompeo. Bowen teaches the god-damn children about "Practical Magic" while Matt whips Kelly C fans into a god-damn lather over the upcoming album. Tears are shed and laughs are had and Tim Murray burns down the studio with a wicked "I Don't Think So, Honey!"Â Subscribe, download, and review today!LAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasCONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASThttp://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Ding dong, Las Culturistas calling.
Whoa, there's a little bit of a lilt in that.
I have to say, there's been a lot of changes in my life lately,
and I felt like changing up the ding dong.
Okay, here we go, because I, just before we hit record, I had asked you, you're just coming in from work.
We're recording in the evening on a Sunday evening.
You're working the weekend shift.
Famously.
You're in your Brooklyn Crab regalia.
So what's going on?
And you said, well, I'll tell you why.
And I sense this chipperedness, this energetic spirit. What is it? What's going on and you said well i'll tell you why and i sense this chipperedness this
energetic spirit what is it what's going on you won't believe this but oh my god this bitch
has become a kombucha bitch i have begun to drink kombucha each day and let me tell you something
and las coserias listeners know they've been on a health journey with me.
Sure, yeah.
And us all.
And us all.
And I have to impart this wisdom unto you.
Okay.
I'm not.
Let me tell you something.
Here we go.
I have famously had bronchitis.
Yep.
And then the flu.
And then for over a month, you guys, and I truly think of you all, the listeners, as
close friends of mine.
So I will share this with you.
Please. I have not been, quote unquote,
regular in a long time.
But then the kombucha. And then
I was speaking with one Mo Frypasek.
Mo! And I said, you know,
I was on a series of antibiotics
this summer. And she goes, well,
there you go. They fucked you up.
So I was truly wrecked. And she said,
you need probiotics. She said, you need probiotics.
She said, you need to drink kombucha or go to the store and buy the pills.
But she's like, but they're expensive.
I was like, okay, well, maybe I'll try kombucha.
And I literally asked, what is it?
Because I thought it was some sort of like coffee offshoot.
But little did I know it is raw, organic, literal live bacteria in a glass bottle.
Yeah, it's like vinegar water.
Yeah, and you think, wow, that's disgusting.
Yogurt water, I'm sorry.
I live for it.
Okay, and I'm not totally on,
I haven't been totally on board with kombucha because
Have you tried it?
Yeah, of course.
Just, you know, I was an early adopter.
I got it on the ground floor with kombucha.
Wow.
I'm just kidding.
A pioneer.
What a disgusting sentence to say.
But I just never.
I got in on the ground floor with kombucha.
I never, it never did it for me.
But if you're saying,
because you know what,
I've been complaining to you.
I've been taking poisonous shit lately.
Water.
No, water, but also like,
I'll wake up in the middle of the night.
And usually, you know,
when you do a little diary,
like it's like after that you feel, after that, you feel great.
Yeah, you feel diarrhea-oo.
But not in these times.
Like, I've had to go to the bathroom, like, rule of three,
I've been going to the bathroom three times within the span of 30 minutes
because my-
Like clockwork three.
Because like clockwork three, because my bowels are just wrecked.
And I think it's because of the antibiotics.
You know, it's rule number 92 of culture.
Comedy and diarrhea, the rule of three. Like clockwork three. You know, it's rule number 92 of culture. Comedy and diarrhea.
The rule of three.
Like clockwork three.
That's okay.
Well, great.
Well, I have to tell you, there's so many different flavors and I recommend two brands.
Okay.
Synergy and Health Aid.
Synergy is like the big one.
Synergy is like the famous one.
And so I actually just had a kind of not great one, which was a strawberry flavor.
I've tried the strawberry and was not on board with it because they have the little seeds in there. Gingerade. Oh,
fun. That's the one you need. Okay. Ginger
beer flavor. And our guest is nodding
in agreement. Our guest is nodding in agreement and
I nod in agreement because can I tell you
something? We love him. I'm so excited.
I'm so excited for him. And I'm so
thrilled because I feel like, you know what, Bo?
Yeah. I feel like we've had a lot of
great guests, but it's time to get a
good old fashioned queer
in here I said it's
time to get a good old fashioned queer in here
and we were discussing who's going to be on the show
and you even said I even said let's get a gay
let's get a gay it's time
it's time I cannot believe you're outing me
the time is now
let's list the credits bitch
alright the credits are gay Let's list the credits bitch Alright the credits
Are as follows
His web series
Unfunny gay guys
You can find that
On his YouTube channel bitch
Also on his YouTube channel
Untucked the musical
Which is a collaboration
Between he and
Friend of the show
Henry Koperski
And this is where
They take amazing
Little well known
Segments from
Untucked from
RuPaul's Drag Race
And musicalize them
In fabulous Fantastic ways Brilliant And an upcoming New project They take amazing little well-known segments from Untalked from RuPaul's Drag Race and musicalize them in fabulous, fantastic ways.
And an upcoming new project.
I'm so excited for this.
Yes.
It's called Slumber Party.
It's going to be a new talk show featuring Tim, also on Tim's YouTube channel.
And in order to more accurately find the YouTube channel, you should know the bitch's name.
Here we go.
And his name is Tim Murray!
And what a day.
What a day it has been.
What a day.
I'm following a conversation about feces.
Yes.
A conversation about feces and then Tim Murray.
Because it's a gay show.
Because it's a gay show.
We got to get real about the feces.
You got to get real about the feces.
Unfortunately, as gays, we have to confront fecal matter often.
Here's something.
I'm recently starting to douche
and I bought this really chic looking bulb from Amazon,
but it doesn't work.
The suction is bad
and you really have to try these out.
It's a really hit or miss thing
with buying these douche bulbs
to clean your hole out.
I've never once douched.
Me neither.
I've done what they call the fleet enemas that they sell i've done those but apparently those are
bad for you if you do them a lot because it just like really eats it's eat away up in there it gets
real up in there and it really starts to like tenderize your your tenderize the meat no there's
no way you need your whole well done absolutely Absolutely. Well done. Well, or rare, but not tender.
Yeah.
Something like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, I'm sorry.
I thought I'd bring that into the conversation just because it's part of the feast.
I'm thrilled that you did.
Honestly, listen, and I feel like we can open up to you.
Yes.
I feel I can open up to you.
Can I just start this off by saying, do you remember the best day of your lives?
Yeah, I think it was when we were in Disney World.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
Mine was when I saw Idina Menzel in Wicked when I was 18.
Oh my God.
But I feel like this is the second best day of mine.
Oh my God, Tim.
Because I am so thrilled to be here.
To be up there with Idina is truly momentous for us.
It is truly huge.
Oh my God.
You know what?
I really, I just was having a rough day at work this week and just.
A rough day at work this week.
Mood boost.
Just thought, let me put on the wicked OST.
No.
Original soundtrack.
Yes.
No, Broadway cast recording.
OBC.
OBC.
OBCR.
OBCR, bitch.
And God, what an instant
I mean
it holds up
one of the things
that holds up
when you look
that's where I met you guys
yes
oh my god
yes
Henry's
Wicked
mashed up with
with
Pat Regan
as
as Miranda
previously
he had never seen the movie
no
and he famously
did not
totally disregarded her performance style completely he would just come out and go you look ugly Miranda Priestly. She had never seen the movie. No. And he famously did not,
totally disregarded her performance style.
Completely.
He would just come out and go,
you look ugly in that outfit.
And then walk off stage.
And you were Fiyero slash Adrian Grenier?
Yes.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Fiyero slash blonde douche. The mentalist.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that was amazing.
I remember saying to Henry,
who is this bitch?
That was the first time I met Tim Teague.
I was like, he's very funny.
That was transformative for me
because I was like
a musical theater douche
before that.
Yeah, yeah.
Not a douche.
But like,
I didn't know what I was,
you know what I mean?
Like that type of
musical theater boy
that just is kind of like,
I don't know where I'm going
or what I'm doing,
but I need like
outward validation
from other people
all the time
to like feel like I am doing my art or whatever my my yeah and then we did that show and I was like
wait there are like gay people that do comedy that are making their own shit and are making
their own stuff and it was honestly like a huge shift in my whole yeah was that when you started
no that wasn't when you started making videos but honestly i had been making videos before that but they were only ever theater related content and very rarely
and i would rarely post about them and then doing meeting you guys and henry and that your whole
crew of like awesome new york queer comedians was like oh these people are putting themselves
out there all of the time oh but now
you're like i mean now you're the one who's just like just churning all this quality the content
keeps flowing the content keeps so i have had such a shift in the last like especially the last year
but in the last like six months i was like very very depressed like boner and i were talking about
this a little bit before that i was living in like an apartment with no windows and it was just dark it
was dark times and I have had this just complete shift in my brain where I now
am I was telling my therapist like a year ago like I don't know I used to be
like a happy person and now I I used to like walk down the street and like hear music in my head
yeah yeah
and uh
now I don't
and that's like
very scary
yeah
for me
and with the
the more I've talked it out
and the more I realize
it's just like
all about creating stuff
and like
having fun
and throwing shit
against the wall
and like not being afraid
and improv helped
with that a lot too
to be like
oh sometimes you're gonna
fucking fall on your face
yeah a hundred percent I love that I love that I just love that that shift that it's you know And improv helped with that a lot too. To be like, oh, sometimes you're going to fucking fall on your face.
Yeah, 100%. I love that.
I love that.
I just love that shift that it's just opened all this stuff up for you.
That's so cool.
The joy is in creating the work.
And it's about the work.
It's about the work.
It's about the process.
You also very much enjoy the process.
Sometimes, like, he is over the house all the time with Henry,
and they're creating their goofs.
And you guys are always laughing.
And we've witnessed him direct us.
Yes.
And he is very much just very involved in the process,
very, very collaborative, so fun to work with, so great.
You guys did a little shoot today.
We did a little shoot today for some of Henry's promos.
Yeah, for Henry Kamiarski.
Look it up.
At TeamMurray06.
It's going to be on the YouTube.
That's the YouTube.
TeamMurray06, baby.
What can you tell us
about this project
that you did today?
It's like,
basically,
the big thing
that we're trying to do
is,
and one thing I've realized
with one of my other videos
is called
We Get It,
You Know Each Other.
Yes.
Okay, I love that.
You need to watch that.
Yes.
There's about two people that scream
when they know each other.
But I've been making so much fucking shit lately.
Yeah, yeah.
And it feels great.
But it's like sometimes I'll make something
that I'm like, this is it.
Last year I made Hillary Clinton, She's All That
and just mapped the movie She's All That to Hillary Clinton
and no one watched it.
Yeah.
It got no views.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
That's so true.
But what I realized
with this video was like
all I had to fucking do
was label the top
of the video
we get it
you know each other
and suddenly it
blew up.
We are getting so
dumb is a mean word to say
but we're getting like
we need things like
like so clearly
stuck to us
on the internet.
So what Henry and I
were trying to do with this is
to clearly label yeah and bone was so funny no um guys master class performances from becky
chicoy and sammy's these are just people that i guys what was the video okay so it's henry
kapurski sitting um at a piano at an audition in an audition room and just being the accompanist
and it's just and maybe tim you can this better, but it's just different people
coming in,
being different versions
of like different types
of nightmares and monsters
in those rooms.
That are auditioning.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, musical theater monsters.
Musical theater monsters.
That come in in certain ways
and expect certain things
of the accompanist.
And treat the accompanist
like garbage for the most part.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can't wait.
So I tried a couple things
where I like was flirting
hard with Henry
because I've witnessed
that myself
just in front of
my own eyes.
And I admitted to you
that I've done it before.
Well, I mean,
we've all done it,
but like with Henry specifically,
it's this really funny thing.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so I was just like
pulling from my experience
and just like really
making Henry feel uncomfortable.
And he was method, honey.
Oh, full method.
He was giving you
Strasburg, Stanislavski,
I don't fucking know, but he was like really acting and I was like, this is was giving you strasburg stanislavski i don't
fucking know but he was like really acting and i was like this is gonna read really well my favorite
thing is when henry acts he's really good at it see see sometimes the other day he did an impression
of someone no he didn't it wasn't someone that oh i forget but he came home from an interaction
and he did an impression of the person and and then i sometimes
tease him like oh the actor but and he gets very bashful but it was very good of course it was
yeah he's just been inundated with like people like throwing and projecting like their own like
shit at him for all this time and of course he's watching so much is like such uh which again the culture is this podcast
big thing for me like hearing other people's things that they watched as kids that like that's
why you're when i heard pat regan talk about this shit that he watched growing up i was like that's
why you are as good as you are yeah yeah and you guys talking about desperate housewives so much
makes me be like it's a moment okay hold. So because you've just brought it up organically, let's talk about this.
So Tim, what is the culture?
And we ask this of all our guests.
This is the question we ask all the guests.
This is the question we ask all the guests.
What is the culture that brought you into culture?
It was the culture that made you decide culture at large as a concept was for you.
Is for me.
I've been thinking about this a lot because, you know, I'm number one fan of the pod.
At me in the comments.
You're not a bigger fan than me.
At him.
At me.
And I have a really bizarre memory.
Like I can remember where I was sitting and what was happening.
I remember I was sitting.
We were on vacation in Miami.
And we were sitting in a hotel room,
and I am watching the TV, and the news story of Tanya Harding hits Nancy Kerrigan's leg,
comes across the screen.
And I literally feel like I could, my whole body just like went light.
And I was like, this is fascinating to me.
And I looked at the screen
and it's just like
the most specific,
and you guys talked about this
on the podcast before too.
We have.
I was just thinking to myself,
have we talked about this?
I'm almost positive that we have.
Tanya and Nancy,
that's not what I'm talking about.
You've talked about,
so specifically,
your friends,
your sister's hot friends.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And what that looked like to you
and what that meant to you.
Yes.
And seeing these women, these fierce figure skater women with their very specific hairdos
and their specific costumes.
But what I now realize attracted me to this story so much was storytelling.
It was such, so dramatically laid out for the world.
It was so thick.
It was like, Tanya Harding was, and so thick it was like tanya harding was and i
fell in love with tanya harding and i was like she had these blonde bangs that just came down
like this and they in the news story i watched they were like you know poor white trash up up
against uh rich nancy pristine nancy cold nancy kerrigan yeah and that was the narrative being
spun for me so i remember going home and sitting in my
bed and clamping my hands so tight and saying dear god i know tanya harding didn't do it
please please please let the world understand that she is a good person and she would not have
done this that is so interesting because you just were empathizing
so much with this person who was being
villainized in the media. Yes.
I'm so empathetic but then
y'all wanted a twist, eh?
We did.
It was so bad
at the Olympics. So fucking bad
that I turned.
And I put up a Nancy Kerrigan poster
in my room. Oh, so not even you turn your back on perform. And I put up a Nancy Kerrigan poster in my room.
And I'm a Nancy Kerrigan.
Oh, so not even you turn your back on Tanya, you put up a Nancy poster.
I turned 180 and I joined the other side.
Oh, my God.
I joined the other side.
That's filth.
I'm a bad person.
So, wait.
I do think that maybe it's not as fascinating.
Well, so it's up there for me with the OJ thing.
With, yeah, unbelievable, you could never make it up.
100%.
The Tanya Harding and Nancy Kerrigan thing.
And you know what else?
You guys are a little younger than me,
but I feel like the OJ thing was the second biggest news story
of my lifetime, maybe the first for you.
Do you think?
It's up there.
I mean, I will be completely honest and say that because I was in Canada as it was happening,
Canadians just, like, didn't really care about it.
And so I didn't really, like, the car chase, like, the whole Bronco chase thing, like,
that was all something that I, like, learned, like, much later on about.
Yeah.
And, like, so many of the details, like, about, like, Marsha Clark and Clark and all these people like I didn't really learn about until like last year
last year like the documentaries and American Crime Story like I was like oh
like I really missed out on this because for yeah so I mean that's just I mean
that's interesting but like did you miss I do remember it dominating but I'll
tell you what also dominated and continued to dominate for years and the
two stories kind of jumbled in together for me as like, oh, that's just like, I guess, tabloid culture.
It was what my five, six-year-old self understood tabloid culture to be was JonBenet.
Oh.
And it felt like JonBenet was never not on the cover of one of those magazines.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you go to the supermarket, you still see JonBenet.
Absolutely.
Seriously.
That's crazy.
It didn't go away for years. Yeah, and the fact that it still hasn't Benet. Absolutely. Seriously. That's crazy. It didn't go away for years.
Yeah, and the fact that it still hasn't is crazy.
Yeah.
We are such a strange culture.
Why are we so obsessed with that?
And also two things.
One, didn't realize that OJ was an athlete slash actor slash superstar until much later.
Didn't understand how famous he was until I was watching Crime Story
and I texted my dad and I'm like, how famous
was he? He was the most famous athlete
of his generation. Two,
didn't understand that JonBenet Ramsey
was a little beauty queen.
Thought that was just the way
she looked and
thought, oh my god, that
pretty girl died. And I didn't
understand why it was such a huge story.
Yeah.
Same.
I didn't realize that either.
I don't think until way later.
And then you understand what a fucked up, bizarre story it is and why it's so big.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That is so crazy.
But yeah, just thought that was what normal little girls looked like.
I think I thought that too.
Talk about the patriarchy.
Oh, dark.
It's a dark world.
It certainly is, Tim.
In second grade, the teacher took a poll of all of us and said, how many of you think OJ did it?
Oh, my God.
And one little boy, Ricky Haas, raised his hand and said, I don't think he could have done it because he's a very good football player.
And we accepted that in this Catholic schoololic school as like oh yeah except for me
who was like but also he was like taking a sample of a room full of second graders like that is
it's shocking but we just talked about this last week with ruby like um the positions that these
teachers put kids in and like these questions that they make them answer like talking to a bunch of 15 year olds about abortion
rights is just so
fucking crazy
overwrought and fraught whatever yeah
just like why would you do that it's overfraught
overfraught rule number 75
overfraught
um okay
um I would I would position
to say I would posit sorry I'm trying to sound smart today.
Position it.
I would say that Princess Diana was like, yes, that was like the, I think that's one of the biggest stories.
I was going to say, we were a little bit older then.
Pop culture-y things, yeah.
And she was an international figure.
Totally.
And so, therefore.
No, but Princess Diana dying was before Jean Benet, though.
I don't think that that's true.
I think Jean Benet was. Let's look it up. Jean Benet, though. I don't think that that's true. I think Jean Benet was...
Let's look it up.
Jean Benet was like 97, 98.
Oh, really?
I think she was 95.
I think that was earlier.
Okay.
I remember where I was.
I think the chronology of it was...
I'm Googling it.
Tanya, OJ.
Tanya was definitely first.
Jean Benet, Princess Diana.
96.
Okay.
And then, yeah.
Oh, the 20th anniversary of Tanya was very recently.
So... So 97. Right. Okay, so you're right. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Yes. Jean Benet. But then, yeah. And then, oh, the 20th anniversary of Diana was very recently. So.
So 97.
Right.
Okay.
So you're right.
I'm so sorry.
Yes.
Jean Benet.
But Jean Benet we heard about in Canada.
I accept your apology.
Thank you.
Jean Benet we heard about in Canada.
And it was like two years before I was going to move to Colorado.
And I was like, people.
And I've said this a million times before.
Yes, you have.
You have.
You have.
On the podcast.
But when my parents were telling me that we were moving to Colorado, I was like, people.
That's where Columbine happened?
Oh, that's where Jean Benet died?
Yeah. People fucking murder each other there.
And that's not accurate.
Columbine was a big thing in Canada that you've heard about.
Because I was
thinking about this when
the three of us are all reading
Hillary's book. It's literally
out on the table right now. In the gun control
chapter, I was crying
specifically a lot because
i really feel like that would have been her legacy yes had she been elected and i thought so i
couldn't stop thinking about the second grade version of myself and where i think like a lot
of my paranoia comes from is that of being like oh anyone could just walk into this school and
shoot us yeah and like that like shaped, that, like, shaped so much.
And, like, then, was it in your guys' towns, was that, like,
did it become, like, sort of part of, like, the local culture, too?
I will say it affected my, it happened when I was in third grade.
It affected my teacher so deeply that she wouldn't stop talking about it for days.
And I, she actually made us, have I said this on the podcast?
She made us all stand in a circle
and listen to Hands by Jewel.
And we stood holding hands
and sang Hands by Jewel.
My hands are small, I know.
And I've definitely said this before.
But then, like days later,
we all got in trouble at lunch.
And my lunch monitor, like, pulled my teacher out and said,
the kids are peer pressuring each other to be mean to someone.
Or they're peer pressuring someone to do something they didn't want to do.
Wait, what is that?
And the teacher came in and was like, I'm so mortified that I had to listen to that.
And not for nothing, but this is not dissimilar
to what happened over in Colorado.
The peer pressure and the bullying and stuff like that.
Well she's kind of right. Yes but
traumatizing to tell a group of four.
And then I realized
even like in third grade I kind of said
to myself like okay don't absorb
that. That's her issue.
That is not
What she meant to say was that, like, bullying is wrong,
and you shouldn't make people feel isolated,
but she doesn't need to, like, make you guys feel like you're murderers.
Like, we're the next Columbine.
I mean, who knows?
Because she was connecting those dots, like, in a correct way,
but of course the way she was communicating it to you guys as third graders
was, like, awful and wrong.
I think she was traumatized.
Rightfully so.
Yeah.
Speaking of which, surreal experience having my first Story Pirate show in an elementary school in Long Island the day Sandy Hook happened.
No.
That was the day it happened?
The day it happened.
And we were setting up, and it was my first show, and we were performing for all these kids.
I was with Katie Skeltonin and branson reese yeah and i get this news notification
on my phone about sandy hook and i was like oh my and i and i didn't want to tell them about this
yeah until after the show yeah because i but i saw this and i went out and i looked at all these
fucking kids and it's like horrifying this is. And then all of us got into the car,
drove back to the city,
and we were just silent.
We were just like,
how did this happen?
It was wild.
Wild, wild, wild.
We'll never forget it. Yeah, I joined it after that too,
and I remember,
it's weird.
You go into elementary schools now,
and you look at the kids,
and you think,
you just get sick to your stomach.
Are we your teacher now?
Are we your great teacher?
No.
You people did this to me.
No, but it's crazy.
It's fucking crazy.
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And then... And it's crazy that it's not going to change now, especially after hearing her chapter in the book.
I was just like, what?
This is insane to me that we are not.
And after Orlando, I was at my 10-year high school graduation the night that that happened.
And I took all these boys that I thought would hate me for being gay.
We all were out at a bar together and I was like, I know this is like so lame, but I'm
having such a good time with you straight guys.
Let's go to the local gay bar in town.
And they all came with me and we had the best fucking time.
And it was just like, you know, defeating these like inner demons, like thinking these
were my bullies.
And then to wake up the next morning and be like, oh, wow, this just happened in a gay bar somewhere else.
Oh, my God.
In the country.
And like from like trying to bridge that gap of like making people feel comfortable and being like even as an ally, you could be.
I mean, oh, yeah.
I mean, A, I mean, that that is just nice.
Isolated event wise.
It was.
That is really nice.
I don't know if I've said this
before and when he was on the podcast
I definitely didn't mention this but the night
before the
the pole shooting Cole
and I were doing a show at Union Hall and then we
walked up to Artichoke Pizza in Park Slope
to get a bite and then
we're sitting there and
this crazy person like
barrels in and is like screaming and screaming and screaming.
And then he goes to Cole, Cole and me and starts screaming faggot at us.
And then he like lunges at Cole at one point.
And Cole was just like really shaken by it.
And we were both shaken by it.
And then like and then it was fine after that.
We checked in with each other.
We went our separate ways.
I checked in again with him
when he got home that night.
And then the next day,
a fucking pulse happened.
And then checked in with each other again.
We were just like,
it's, are we both,
we're both thinking the same thing, right?
It's just so fresh
that this is still happening.
Yeah, like what a weird,
I don't know.
It's so fucked up
to think about how all these atrocities can happen.
And she talks about the mothers in those chapters of the world, like, you know, the murdered black youth and everything.
Like, and just to fucking realize that he still was elected.
You know what I mean?
With nothing on that topic.
And only, like, only all the wrong things.
All the wrong things.
Everyone should have a gun.
Speaking of like you teaching, right?
So Orlando happened and then a week later I was teaching like kids, like young kids in a classroom.
And I have this paranoia thing where I'm always thinking that something bad is going to happen.
And I am sitting in the class and I was just like, what would I do?
If someone came in here right now, there's 40 children,
what would I do?
If I had a gun on me,
that wouldn't help.
Oh my God, no.
What would I do?
Like, that's not...
It's not the answer.
That's not the answer.
It is so flat out not the answer
and the fact that people think
it could be the answer
shows true...
People firmly believe
that that's the answer
in a truly wild way.
Oh my God.
It's insanity.
But the thing that's bothering me the most about
the fucking
people's
furor over this Hillary book
and I'm seeing this a lot on my Facebook feeds
is it's like always the
pull quote is
wow, Hillary
really stuck in the past, still blaming
Bernie. Fucking read the book.
It is not about Bernie. This book past still blaming Bernie. Fucking read the book. Read the book. It is not about Bernie.
This book is not about Bernie.
The library's open.
Check out a card
and check out the book.
I don't have time
for your fucking bullshit.
She spends maybe...
I'm halfway through it.
But from what I've read,
there's lines that are about Bernie
and about the rightful ways in which she contributed to her loss.
Not that he wasn't entitled to say whatever the fuck he wants to say and campaign however he wants.
But she's also entitled to write this book.
You don't want to fucking buy it or read it?
Don't.
You certainly waste a lot of your fucking time posting about it on social media. You certainly are fucking interested. But if you don't want to read the book, don't you certainly waste a lot of your fucking time posting about it on social media
you certainly are fucking interested but if you don't want to read the book don't that doesn't
mean she doesn't have the right but you don't get to say anything about it then yeah and don't
fucking tell me how to spend my money because people being like well at least don't buy it at
a barnes and noble you can go fucking shove your own cock up your butthole and let me watch on X2 because that sounds fun.
Honestly, you're all fucking disgusting.
She doesn't say anything about him or anything in the book that isn't in service of the party.
That isn't in service of trying to bridge exactly why she believed the same thing she believed and took the stances she took and why Bernie took the stances she took.
She's not blaming him. She's saying this is how divided we are
and this is what he believed
and what I believed
and why I believe that was a problem
for all of us coming together
stronger together.
The book is called What Happened.
So she's telling you what happened.
And one of the things that happened
was they were in conflict
and it made her look bad.
And had he become the nominee,
he probably wouldn't have won either
because there would have been all the fuckery
that happened with Russia anyway.
So it's just like, get over it.
I don't know.
And what she's been saying in interviews
is that, yeah, it has just been about him
just doing this sort of damage
that he sort of did inflict where it was like well
hillary's a fucking crook because she's taking all these speaking fees and it's like she talks
about in the book she's like i mean all my predecessors took speaking fees everyone else
who ran for president took like took money from wall street like had no reason to believe that
it would have affected me this way except in these these gendered ways. And then the line that punched
me in the fucking gut was like, she
just has this whole paragraph where she asks these questions
like, why am I seen as a divisive figure
but Joe Biden and Bernie aren't? Why am I seen
as this person but these people aren't?
Why am I caustic
but these people aren't? And then she
paragraph breaks into just a one
line paragraph after that just says,
I'm really asking. She goes, I'm at a loss line paragraph after that just says, I'm really asking.
I'm at a she goes, I'm at a loss.
And it was just like, oh, I was at the gym when I heard I'm listening on audio book and I had to put the weights down.
Oh, my gosh.
And take a lap because it was so sad.
It makes me so fucking sad for my sister.
My sister is a fucking fierce lawyer and she didn't take her husband's name.
And Hillary has an amazing little paragraph in there about that.
About Bill losing the governor's race in Arkansas.
Yeah, people said that it was her fault that he lost the governor's race
because she didn't take the last name Clinton.
And then when she finally did take the last name Clinton,
there's footage of her in, like, in the 70s,
just, like, on an interview, on, like, on some, like, TV press thing.
And she's just, like, first of all, she looks,
she looked fucking fierce back in the day.
Just, like, she, like, really just looked like this.
She looked, like, twiggy in a way.
Like, with this, like, really fierce, like, eye makeup and just, like, this straight blonde hair, like, brownish blonde hair.
And she's just, she just looks pissed.
And she's, like, you know, I decided to take,
I finally decided to, know just take clinton because it seemed like everyone was
getting really up in arms about it so you know i will now for and she rolls her eyes back she goes
i will now forever be known as hillary rodham clinton and i was like fuck that fuck fuck the
fuck the fuck the forces that like made that happen and like for her to roll her eyes at that
is like still so great and delicious well that's fucking classic misogyny and sexism for you and your hatred of
her everybody is fucking fueling it's just tired machine it's and it's also it's like why uh like
like i don't know read the fucking book read the fuck or or you know what or don't but either way
go fuck yourself because you're gonna read the book
and I hope you feel like shit and if you don't read the book
continue living in your own fucking
ignorance whatever
maybe I'm drinking the Kool-Aid too much but I happily do so
and I like whatever
it's not harming other people
it just makes me so mad
it's making me feel better
like being able to read it
so like stop posting everywhere why does this book exist It just makes me so mad. It's making me feel better being able to read it.
So stop posting everywhere, why does this book exist?
Anyway.
I just think it is sexist to say that shit about her.
Absolutely.
It's garbage.
Agreed, 100%. I don't know.
When you read the chapter on being a woman in politics, that's really hard to read and listen to.
And the situations she accounts are so specific.
And it's like, give the woman a fucking break.
Give her a break.
Did you see Cory Booker being like,
he basically has a leave Britney alone moment,
but about Hillary, where they're interviewing him.
He's like, just leave her alone.
Like, God.
It's like people don't fucking freak out
about John McCain staying silent
after his presidential race loss.
Like, we're still lionizing him like he's a fucking war hero, which, I mean, that's questionable to begin with.
I don't know.
Anyway, let's just dig ourselves out of this heavy politics hole.
But I like it down here.
Did you hear that Hillary is going to be a judge on All Stars 3? Yes!
Honestly, that would be a
fucking gag. Chelsea went
to Jinx's show!
Chelsea Clinton went to one of Jinx's show this
past week. Really? And I'm
just like, Hillary's gotta go.
Hill's gotta go. She's gotta go.
She's gotta go. We gotta get her at the show.
Book her for
slumber party. I would die to book her for slumber party oh i
would die to have hillary on oh my god oh my god oh my god can't wait to have you guys it'd be an
honor for her you know what i i thought about this the one question i would ask hillary clinton is
she is back in the day especially in at the show's peak she was a huge great anatomy fan and i want
to tell i want to ask her what her favorite episode is or who her favorite character is. That's all.
I love that.
Who are your...
For you.
I want that question for you.
Favorite episode?
Who are your favorite characters and your favorite apps?
Yeah.
Christina.
I'm a Christina bitch till I die.
Yeah.
I didn't get Christina for a long time.
I do think that she provides some of the best moments ever.
I didn't get her for a long time.
My favorite character was Izzy.
Until she started acting like a stupid idiot.
Yeah, yeah.
See, and that's the part of it that I do agree with Katherine Heigl about.
The writing was god awful.
It was bad.
And let's not pretend like Shonda isn't capable of that.
I mean, like, she wrote bad.
Crossroads.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, why would you say that?
Crossroads is amazing.
Sure.
I'm just saying, like...
Crossroads is a better movie than people give it credit for.
Agreed.
Shonda Rhimes is not...
She doesn't hit it out of the park every single fucking time.
No, no, no, no.
And also, like, she is very guilty of, like, stepping away and caring less about her shows
after she feels like
they're past their prime. She gets away with murder.
So she...
So she walked... I don't know what
happened with Grey's Anatomy, but season four
was a total fucking mess.
And I think that the way
Katherine Heigl handled it... There were some great moments in season four
though, and you know what I'm talking about, especially with Christina,
especially with Sandra Oh, honey.
Which one? Just wiping the tear away.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Burke monologue.
That was not season four.
That was season four.
Yeah, because season three,
he leaves her at the altar.
Oh, oh, oh.
You're talking about
you took a piece of me.
No, no, no.
That's season five.
Season four.
Or season six, even.
Season six.
Unbearable?
No.
Yeah, unbearable.
It's season four?
She goes,
there you go.
My relationship with Preston Burke
in writing.
Satisfied.
Yeah.
She has to report
that she slept with Burke
to the whole fucking...
It's not difficult.
It's unbearable.
You guys have talked about this before,
but I want it on record from me
that her
You Took a Piece of Me monologue
is the greatest television acting
we will ever discover.
Never.
Again.
Except she did it with a hundred times the restraint that we just did it. Oh, yeah. We will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, He's not the son. You are. She pisses me off though, Shonda. I'm sorry. Yeah, that's fair.
She fucking pisses me off.
Yeah.
Because I will never get over that she let Isaiah Washington come back for that episode.
That homophobic piece of garbage.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Got to come back and wrap up the storyline because Christina deserved it.
However, like, she like can't fucking knock whatever ego thing
she has with Katherine Heigl and that character
gets literally no
resolution whatsoever.
Honestly, you know what? If you didn't
like her, just fucking kill her in the
cancer storyline. Don't bring her back
from the literal dead in the cancer storyline
only to have the character get fired
six episodes into the next season.
That was bullshit. The cancer story was bad.
I didn't think it was bad.
I just thought, if you're going to, then see it through.
Yeah.
Like, have her pass away, because don't fucking have her survive only to fire the character
because she made, like, a judgment error.
Like, it was so stupid.
The show is so stupid.
I'm sorry, but Grey's Anatomy is so fucking stupid.
It's very stupid.
But don't you think that we deserve a single from Ellen Pompeo?
A single?
I want to hear music from Ellen Pompeo.
Her raspy voice.
Yeah.
I want to hear a Pick Me, Choose Me, Love Me dance track.
Oh, wait.
Yes, agreed.
And she also has been killing it on Twitter lately.
Has she?
Should I follow?
Well, yes. Has been killing it on Twitter lately Has she? Well yes because Someone sent me this tweet of hers
Where like
Some idiot tweeted at her
Like oh she's
Oh she's a fucking Hillary supporter
Fuck you
Trump supporters hate you
We hate you
And then she like quote tweeted this person
And was like I wouldn't want a fucking Trump supporter
As a fan anyway you doof Like she was so She goes news was like i wouldn't want a fucking trump supporter as a fan
anyway you doof like she was so she goes news flash i wouldn't want it i would i would never
fucking want a trump supporter as a fan yeah she's literally like actual like mouthy great
i love it i love it do you ever see her episode of punked no okay she was on an episode of punked
and like lost it It's insane
Because she's with her husband
Who knows that this is happening to her
But it's like
They're at a restaurant in LA
And like the waitress comes out
And is like being an idiot
And she walks away from the table
And Ellen Pompeo is literally like
Our waitress is a fucking idiot
Like
She came out here like
Doof doof doof
Like she's a fucking idiot.
And then she starts laughing about it.
And then she starts making
jokes about her falling
down and hurting herself.
It's really weird. And you see the
husband kind of be like,
oh my god, we're on TV.
We're on TV right now and you're being...
And it's so funny to hear her real accent.
She's from... I think she's from Boston or some sort of Massachusetts or something. Yeah, and it's so funny to hear her like real accent she's from I think she's from
Boston or some sort
of Massachusetts
or something
yeah yeah yeah
but you see
you hear her talk
and it's not
Meredith Grey talking
it's really funny
it's so weird
Ellen what a mystery
what a mystery
yeah because we only
know her as
we only literally
know her as the
one character
have you seen
the interview with her
and Viola Davis
and
Carrie Carrie and they're like so what would you do if Grace and Adam know her as the one character have you seen the interview with her and um viola davis and um
carrie carrie and they're like so what was what would you do if grace madame ever stops
and she's like well um i don't think it ever will but uh if it does i won't be acting anymore
and they're like why why and she she actually said something that i thought was so cool she was like
i don't find acting very empowering and i was like oh that's cool she's like i think i would like produce i was like oh you're you're pretty cool yeah i think she's
totally cool that's so funny i need to watch this punk but you should i need to watch that too
i want to burn i want the whole world to burn down i want to see everyone's true colors also i mean
shonda may or may not have had a hand in making Sarah Ramirez bisexual by writing her character as a lesbian.
Is Sarah Ramirez bisexual?
She came out as bisexual like a year ago, which is great.
But like, I don't know if like the character had anything to do with it.
I don't know about that, Beau.
That's an interesting thesis.
I think Shonda Rhimes made Sarah Ramirez bisexual.
Well, after I played a a lesbian I realized I was bi
Well it's like
That freaking orange
Is the new black writer
Who realized she was lesbian
She was gay
After she like
Kept writing these
These queer women
I think
There's something to it
Really is that how
She discovered that
And then she fucking
Just married
Samira
Yeah
So I mean
I think
I think there's something
About TV
I've also heard
Open it up Open it up What's inside of you TV. I've also heard. Open it up.
Open it up.
What's inside of you already?
I've heard that Taylor Schilling is also a lesbian.
Oh, yeah.
I've heard she's bi.
I think she's in a relationship with a woman.
A famous woman.
I don't know who it is.
I'm losing it right now.
But I feel like she's closeted.
I think you and I saw her come out.
We got off at JFK and we saw her come out.
She was in the car in front of us at JFK.
Did we?
Where was that?
I think this was Orlando.
No.
And she fucking came out and I was like, that's Taylor Schilling.
Oh my God.
What a guy.
Maybe you forgot about that.
Well, ask Dave because I don't know.
I don't remember.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We were literally very high the whole time.
I remember this very vividly.
The fucking Taylor Schilling. That's crazy. The first season of that show, I was like, this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were literally very high the whole time. I remember this very vividly. The fucking Taylor Schilling.
That's crazy.
The first season of that show, I was like,
this is the best television show I've ever seen.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then I stopped watching.
The most famous person that I've seen come out of a car
is Anna Hathaway.
Anna Hathaway.
Anna Hathaway.
Was she getting out of the car and Meryl Streep was in the car
and she was like, everybody wants to be us.
And Anne was getting out because she quit.
Yeah, that was it.
I was on set for Devour's product
in Paris, France, on location.
To Emily.
To Emily.
You did do it.
To Emily.
What a delicious performance.
Oh my God.
This is like our 20th time
talking about Devour.
Yeah, but you know what though?
But for a cultural podcast,
I want it on every episode. All Alright, let's talk about a new
movie. What movie haven't we talked about?
I don't know. You've listened to every episode.
I have listened to every episode. Hold on, there is a movie I want
to talk about because I was thinking about you, Tim Murray,
the whole time as I was watching it last weekend.
Tim Murray, famously on the first
I Don't Think So Honey live episode. Gagged it.
I Don't Think So Honeyed, Harry Potter
fans, and
Harry Potter bullies.
Harry Potter bullies,
excuse me,
and that is a specific term.
And he instead proposed,
instead of a Harry Potter theme park,
a Practical Magic theme park.
I've never seen it,
but I have to.
I saw it last week
with Anna and Mike.
And it's not a good movie,
but it's a good...
There's great performances in it, but it's not a good movie. but there's great performances in it,
but it's not a good movie.
Want to know something horrible?
Please.
I've never seen
Dr. Go-Man.
It was for the comedy.
I was playing a character.
It was for the comedy.
Great, great, great.
I was playing a character.
And so you did your research,
and so you had that reference
tucked away.
I had it tucked away.
That's genius.
Because I said,
in my head I was like,
do I say The Craft?
Do I say,
in my head I was like,
here's some witch movies,
and then I was like,
I'm fucking
I love it
I love it
because the craft
is very first thought
like everyone
will fall back on the craft
practical magic
is like a nice deep cut
and I love
that you referenced it
even though you hadn't seen it
because I feel like
we should not
I feel like
more people should do that
I don't find a problem
in doing that
and referencing something
that is not familiar to you
I think it's
I do it all the time
the reference
yeah we're not getting
we're not gonna get a quiz
on it
exactly
it's not a fucking
until you come on a podcast
and they're like
let's talk about that movie
and you're like
I mean we don't have to talk about it
I was just
I thought of you
I love that you thought of me
that's so sweet
and my problem with the movie
is that it didn't know
if it was gonna be a thriller
a romcom
or you know
what did it end up being
like a fucking Franken movie
of all three
of those
of these things
it was like
it wanted to be a thriller a romcom and like a fun like Nancy Me franken movie of all three of of those things it was like it wanted to be a
thriller a rom-com and like a fun like nancy myers-esque movie it was crazy it was wild
it's nicole kidman playing like the confident witch no it's it's sandra bow playing like the
main witch like the like the the one who wants just like your normal cypher like you can project
anything you want on her and nicole kidman is like the rebellious sister. And then it's very Thelma and Louise too
because Nicole Kidman ends up dating this vampire
who holds her hostage
and then they kill the vampire
and then they bury the vampire
and then their aunts are played by,
and it's very Sabrina the Teenage Witch,
their aunts are played by Stockard Channing
and fucking Diane Wiest.
Oh, wow.
That's so great.
Great cast.
And a young Evan Rachel Wood is in the movie, too.
Plays Sandra Bullock's daughter.
So it's a great movie, well cast,
but it's also, it just doesn't know what it is,
and it was just kind of unwatchable by the end.
But, you know, it's in the lexicon.
It's in our lexicon.
Speaking of witches.
I was just literally going to say those exact words.
What are you going to say?
I was going to say that Michelle Pfeiffer is back on screen.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
And I can't bring myself to see it.
I don't think I'm going to go see it.
The news feed is a disaster.
It's crazy.
Everyone's freaking out about it.
I've never seen such hate for a movie.
Did you hear that it received an F CinemaScore rating?
So this is what happens when all movies come out.
What this company does is they go to five random cities nationwide,
and they poll many audiences coming out of the theater to give the movie a score.
A, B, C, D, or F.
Like a numerical grade.
Not numerical.
Like an alphabetical grade
like you would get in school.
So famously,
this can really
prove to say
how a movie's gonna do
based on word of mouth
because it's really the audiences
that drive the box office.
Like the reviews help.
Right.
But ultimately.
But I think a lot of people
are going to go see Mother
because they see
Jennifer Lawrence
and they see
like a 70% score
on Rotten Tomatoes
which isn't bad.
Right.
However,
it got an F
for CinemaScore
which is like unprecedented.
So everyone hated it.
Almost everybody
gave it an F
and usually you can,
usually someone likes a movie. And usually you can, usually
someone likes a movie.
Like, for example,
like, one of the
highest scores of the past 10 years
has been The Blind Side. The Blind Side got an A+.
It got an A-plus cinema
score, and Hidden Figures also
had an A+. Oh, that's cool. So, basically,
these crowd-pleaser movies
that, like, have mass appeal, they'll get these very high scores, and those areaser movies that like have mass appeal
they'll get these
very high scores
and those are the movies
that have a lot of legs
the box office
I believe Wonder Woman
also did really well
I think it got an A
so these movies
have real legs
but if you get an F
that usually means
the movie's fucking DOA
oh wow
so it got an F
and that's happened
like five times
I think it might be
like a producer's type thing
where it's like
such a dud
that people will want to go see it.
I mean, I have no desire to go see it,
but people are talking about it like crazy.
People are talking about it
and that's a rule of culture.
Get the people talking.
Here you go.
All press is good press.
But it makes me mad
because there's nothing I want to do more
than go see Michelle Pfeiffer in a movie.
Oh, hell yeah.
Like, I fucking love Michelle Pfeiffer.
The children have forgotten.
The children have forgotten. There will never be a Catwoman like Michelle Pfeiffer. The children have forgotten. The children have forgotten.
There will never be a Catwoman like Michelle Pfeiffer.
No, no, no. Eartha Kitt was great, but honey,
Michelle Pfeiffer was it. I even thought Anne
was great. And she was amazing in Hairspray,
the movie. She's amazing in everything.
Oh yeah, Grease 2, come on.
She's one of the, I think, of the past
like 30 years, she's one of like
the iconic
faces on screen. I agree. agree she's amazing and we think that
imagine what the generation above us would say if they were sitting around oh i know that's
she's like one of the gay the like the like the gays up the gays one generation of the gays up
yeah live for the five at the townhouse right now they're talking about michelle five but i was
actually reading an article about her which is an interesting article because she's been nominated for Oscars like several times.
Yeah.
And actually has quite a like versatile like talent.
Like she does like period film.
She does like superhero movies.
She does like traditional like contemporary romantic comedies.
Like she's got everything on her like resume but
what i read about her in this article this i thought was a pretty astute observation was
this happens sometimes with actresses she's so gorgeous that you don't take her super seriously
as an actress and she's like too talented to be like super commercial.
I relate to that so much.
It's like you got that model face and those like abstract talents.
And just so much talent.
And immeasurable talent.
And you're just like, I don't know how to process this.
That's so true though.
That really, yeah.
Right?
And the way that like, you know, the big box office actresses are like, of her her generation were like Sandra Bullock, Meg Ryan, Julia Roberts.
Not actresses that I think at the time of their peak, you could give them any script and they'd make it work.
Or they'd heighten the material.
Michelle could.
Right, but she never was a box office sensation in the way that like –
She's never been this
draw
like let's go see
the new Michelle Pfeiffer movie
right
wow
and I thought that
that was an interesting article
and I got it
because she is so striking
and she is so good
like you
you usually walk away
from a movie with her
in it and
remember her
yeah
and people are saying that
about this movie
I mean that's cool
I mean I do want to support that
I do want to support her
I think we can
just start this campaign
to just really
like get her
to number one
on the IMDB star meter
I want
let's get Michelle
to number one
to number one
I want her
to just make such
such a huge
groundswell
of a comeback
well they're saying
that she might get an Oscar nomination for it.
I sure hope.
I sure hope.
Because that is such a real thing.
It's like, we know that about the industry.
It's not about talent.
If it were about talent, all these theater actresses that I'm obsessed with would have
been box office draw.
But no, it's about like Julia Roberts, Sandra Bullock.
Accessibility.
Usually it's about whiteness.
And it's about accessibility.
And like, who is someone we can put on the freaking screen that is approachable,
and someone in the middle of Nebraska wants to come watch in a theater.
Right.
And the thing is, I think right now there's really only been one,
and it's Jennifer Lawrence.
And I think with this one.
Emma Stone, though.
Well, I think Emma Stone is close. Yeah.
Someone actually said that recently. They think Emma Stone
is like the next Julia Roberts in a way. And I think
that that's pretty astute. Maybe, yeah.
But it seems like
Emma Stone draws a certain vitriol
that Julia Roberts never did.
People fucking hate
Emma Stone. I feel like people did
back in the day hate Julia Roberts.
Really? I don't know.
I just, I get that feeling.
Because she was liked by women and men, which is, they say what you need.
Right, right, right.
Sure, sure, sure.
That's the whole thing. Emma, just from stories I've heard, is like a cool fucking person.
That's what I hear, too.
I've heard that, too.
Jessie Britta Filter, our friend, was her roommate in LA.
What?
Oh my god, what?
Yeah.
Britta?
They grew up together
and then, speaking of drag queens,
I gotta plug, Tammy Spanx.
Tammy Spanx? I don't know what you guys are all doing on a Sunday
night, but you gotta get your ass to
Barracuda to see Tammy Spanx.
And Britta Filter, go see all those New York queens.
Yeah, Britta's fucking amazing.
Britta's gonna be one of those household
named drag queens. Britta Filter's gonna be on
Slumber Party on my channel.
Can't wait.
Wait, but she lived with Emma Stone.
She calls her Emily.
Yeah, because that's her real name, right?
Yeah, they grew up together in Arizona.
They moved to L.A. together.
Then Emma Stone started to do pretty well, I guess.
She's doing pretty okay.
Yeah, she's doing okay.
Now they're saying that she might be up for an Oscar again for playing Billie Jean King.
Apparently she's better in this movie
than she was in La La Land.
And if she hadn't won last year
she would be a slam dunk.
Oh dang.
That's what everyone said.
I'm excited for that movie.
I'm really excited for that movie.
I can't wait.
I didn't really know
that this was like an event.
Like historic event.
Oh no,
this is like a big one.
I don't know as much
about it either
but I'm excited for the trailer.
Totally.
From being like a little sports kid
I knew about
Billie Jean that's cool yeah like this was like it was exactly that it was called the battle of
the sexes between this like chauvinistic idiot yes yeah and who was like kind of like the John
McEnroe of his time sure and Billie Jean King who was at the time a closeted lesbian uh women's
tennis champion right and he was like, let's do
this. It'll be good for the sport. It'll get excited.
And also, you know,
whatever, I'll beat you. And don't be a
pussy. Do it. And she
beat him. She beat him.
That's awesome. And now Battle of the Sexes
is just this norm
in tennis. I sound so stupid,
but am I correct?
There are tennis events where it's like
battle of the sexes, and it's just like
male versus female.
And it's just like
modeled after that.
I think it's one of those things that's like
you can't duplicate.
Of course not. But they try.
Totally, totally, totally.
Where's my movie about Monica Salas getting stabbed?
What? I didn't even know that this happened.
Okay, hello.
Monica Salas wins a match.
Hello.
She walks over to her fans, says, hello, fans.
A fan stabs her in the shoulder with a knife.
No.
And she survived?
She's totally fine.
Thank God.
I mean, oh my God.
Was it her tennis arm?
Which one's your tennis arm?
Bitch, I don't know. Both, I think. Which one she swing the't know which one she's swinging the club which
one she's seeing the club i'm just i mean that is like a number i think 30 9 30 30 rule number 30
of culture your tennis arm is the one you swing the club that's like a that's like a sort of a
nancy kerrigan type thing it was a big wait and I'm happy to return to this
because I can't believe
we just talked about
Tonya Harding and Nancy Kerrigan
without talking about
the film that's coming out
yes
I, Tonya
I, Tonya
it's called
I, Tonya
can't believe
and it stars
Margot Robbie
and Allison Janney
as the mother
and I'm hearing
it's basically
Drop Dead Gorgeous on steroids what which I and I'm hearing it's basically Drop Dead Gorgeous
on steroids
which I'm
I'm here for
and also
I'm getting different
accounts of it
so like I'm reading
a lot of
first of all
I cannot wait
to see this movie
I'm so down for it
you don't even understand
are you reading
different accounts
about whether or not
Margot Robbie
thought Tanya Harding
was a fictional character
no okay
also I want to get
Margot Robbie
off the hook for this
okay yeah yeah yeah
because like you were just
saying, she is from... She might have missed it. She is from
a different country. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll never...
She's from a different country. I need to be known that I'll never let anyone
off the hook for not knowing Katanya. But that is... I mean, it's
the Olympics. It's an international event. So, who
knows? She's
our age. I know about those Canadians
who... Or, no, Russians
who... I guess I don't know.
The Russians... Wait, are you talking about the controversy?
The figure skating? The doubles.
The doubles. Yep, the Canadians.
They were Canadian, right? Oh, God.
Russian? Canadian?
Okay, but it wasn't on the level of Tanya and Neil.
No, not at all. I mean, it was a controversy in its own right,
but it wasn't one
one's crazy
stupid husband trying to
break the other one's knee
yeah yeah yeah
right after a practice
right right right
so nuts
it's insane
but the different
accounts I'm hearing
are
that
it's a good
and like dramatically
potent and humanizes
her
yeah
or that it's like
a crazy ass
campy
campy ass
characterization of her
where
that like weirdly
asks you to be on her side
but...
I'm down for either or a version of both.
All I know is that
Tonya Harding was happy with it.
They said
the director and Margot were being interviewed
and they said that she was
great during the process
and she was shown the movie
and that she was pleased with it.
I'm sure she's pleased.
Like, she's getting
all this attention again.
Yeah.
That was always the goal, honey.
She wanted to be out
from eighth place
and up in the spotlight.
Yeah, and she wanted
to sell her life rights, honey.
But it's not attention
that she wants.
I, well...
You don't understand.
If you know Tanya Hardy,
I mean, she wanted
any attention.
That's why she was
so fascinating. She cried why she was so fascinating.
She cried when she was doing her performance and was like,
my shoe, my shoe, let's get my dog.
Have you seen the 30 for 30?
30 for 30?
It's the documentary that a lot of this is based on.
It's a crazy, you have to, Tim.
If you love Tanya, you have to go watch,
I think it's like on Netflix or something.
It's a 30 for 30, which is like an ESPN documentary series
based in sports
but this one about
Tonya Harding
and Nancy Kerrigan
is amazing
it's like
modern day interviews
with Tonya
and she's basically
looking at the camera like
it took everything from me
all I wanted to do
was skate
all my life
it took it all
it took it all
my mother
my husband it took it all and I took it all. My mother. My husband.
I took it all.
And it's so.
You don't know what to believe because.
She's like, of course I didn't know.
But she's so.
Like.
She's so worn down by the years.
I know.
That you're like, I don't know what to believe.
She was in a desperate situation.
There you go.
Right there. That is why that story is huge situation. There you go. Right there.
That is why that story is huge and important
and is fascinating
because like
just that effect
that effect of that event
on her life.
Huge, dramatic,
Shakespearean, everything.
Yeah, it is Shakespearean
and that's why they call it
I, Tanya.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But also, think of this
and I will advocate for Tanya
for this for a second.
She's head and shoulders the most talented skater there.
She was the first to do the triple axel.
Tanya Harding?
Tanya Harding.
She was the best, apparently.
I don't know.
I don't have the tape in front of me.
But she was the first woman to ever complete the triple axel on the ice.
And Margot says they were shooting the movie and
she was like okay we'll just get a double to come in and do the triple axle and then everyone on set
that was like tasked with that was like no you don't understand like there's really very few
people in the world that can actually do that and you can't get them to come here and do it and look
like you i mean like that is wild and it's so funny that the narrative
that ended up taking hold was that she's
like was white trash and that she was poor
and like and you like that's
what you remember and you don't remember that she was this amazingly
skilled figure skater well because they grade
also based on presentation right
and that's where she would get knocked and also when
she was in the actual
competition she was very bad
yeah like I remember being like and Nancy
Kerrigan was un-
fucking believable like I remember watching
her and just being like wow she is
powering through this knee
injury and I thought she did a
triple axel
I don't know that she ever did it I know that Tanya
was definitely the first that's see I
flip-flopped so much that I just I don't
remember which one it was, but I do remember.
In this moment now,
whose side?
Tell us.
Oksana Bayul.
I'm sorry?
Oksana Bayul!
Oksana Bayul,
who got,
that was a trick question.
Who beat Nancy Kerrigan,
I'm pretty sure,
for the gold,
and,
You were supposed to say Michelle Kwan.
I love Michelle Kwan.
I had a Michelle Kwan poster as well,
and she was,
all of these women
had the most incredible
outfits. And they would just
they would dance to
this music. They were
all honestly all of them.
Even a little
later I was still into like Tara Lipinski.
Tara of course.
But Michelle is I'm going to say it
the Hillary Clinton
if that you're skating
never got the gold
never had
the moment she deserved
the moment she deserved
because she was
she was so old worthy
I'll never forget
watching Sarah Hughes
win the gold medal
and they just
with that horrible haircut
don't get me started
yeah but she deserved it
I mean she turned it out
she was incredible
but I remember
they just cut to a closed door
and it said Michelle Kwan
and she obviously
the vibe was
that she was not
I was such a Michelle Kwan fan that I truly couldn't handle
I was happy for Sarah Hughes because that was
truly amazing skating
I want a Michelle Kwan biopic now
Constance Wu
make it happen
and Michelle Kwan campaign for Hillary
because you know what? It's the same
narrative. These women who work so hard
who do not get
what they so desperately deserve.
Michelle Kwan, Hillary Clinton,
Alexis Michelle.
Alexis! You're a monster.
Fuck you, Tim. Alexis is
great. We've gone on record. She might have hired me
at DragCon and she looked fucking flawless.
She looked great at DragCon.
Did you go to DragCon?
Okay, here's the thing.
Little T, can we share this tea?
Share the tea.
We-
Oh, we did.
Yeah, this is tea.
They reached out to us
to moderate a panel.
Oh my God.
Not even moderate.
I think it was to be on a panel
or moderate something.
We were options as moderators
and then they reached back out
and they said that their programming changed.
But will we like passes? Will we like be like these free passing we said of course and
then it just the weekend went by and it was just one of those weekends where we were just like oh
there's a million other things going on i'm not gonna go all the way to the javits center like
it was you know what it's you know what i respect go ahead and i went and i went to the one in la
and it's it's great it's wonderful it's i mean it's very transparent that it's just like merch
merch merch merch merch merch which is cool Merch, merch, merch, merch.
Which is cool.
If you're not trying to spend the money to take those pictures with those queens.
And we are going to do comedy with those queens.
Or we have already.
God willing, yeah.
Yeah, you know them or you meet them.
I'm not going to pay $60 to take a picture with Shay.
There you go.
Love you to death.
Who is your queen for the people for Tim?
Bob the Drag queen is like
hands down without a doubt my absolute favorite agree and even and bob and bob and i got a little
twitter tiff but i still did get in the twitter i saw the tip i mean i wasn't even a tip i mean
bob was just you know like bob was wrong but bob was a little salty and i was just like well here's
here's how i feel here's where i'm coming from. And it was fine. And like, love Bob to death.
Still,
Bob is one of my number ones.
Oh,
here's a little thing.
Someone,
some queen on Facebook
was like,
LOL at Shea Coulee
charging $60 for a photo,
but RuPaul charging $50.
She's like,
girl,
who the fuck do you think you are
charging more than RuPaul?
It was like,
everyone at DragCon
was talking about it.
Every person you walked by was like,
but in Shay's, I will say
in Shay's defense, she had a full
like, Queens like Shea Coulee and
Kim Chi and somebody else
had like, not only the look, but the
booth was an experience.
It was almost like going into a haunted
house. Like, it was that cool.
But, yeah, I mean, more than RuPaul.
Trinity Taylor was charging
five bucks and a dick pic
and a dick pic
I walk into DragCon
somebody grabs me
and goes
Trinity is here
and I go
oh my god oh my god
and they go
Trinity K Bonet
and I'm like
ah
was Trinity at DragCon
no
no merch for me
what why bitch
because you know what
because this is what I hear
Ruby told us this
remember at night's up she was like yeah a lot of queens don't do drag con because
the booth fee is insane.
It's like $1,500 to open a booth.
No way.
It's crazy.
It's a fucking, it's like a bell money.
It's wild.
I hate that.
Wait, I've heard your queens on here before.
Jujubee is what you said.
Oh, yeah.
Like Matt and I are Jujubee and Raven.
And Raven.
Was Raven yours?
No, no, no.
The queen of my heart is Alyssa.
Yeah.
I mean, of course.
I feel very close to Alyssa.
All of us would agree, Alyssa.
I agree with that, yeah.
Katya for all of season seven.
But then since then, I've sort of hopped off that a little bit.
Bob is just someone who we would go see.
That's so cool, yeah.
And we saw the full arc of Bob,. That's so cool, yeah. And like we saw like the full arc of Bob
and like that is so cool.
Yeah.
I think that for me,
Alyssa is everything I want
in that like she's just,
I don't know,
she's that unexplainable quality.
Yeah.
Like she's just that.
I went to Look Queen
and saw her recently after All Start.
So I did a thing with Alaska and Katya.
Yes.
And then literally this was the week of Drag Queens for me.
Of All Stars to Drag Queens.
The next week she was at Look Queen.
And Preston and I went.
And I am telling you, I have never and never will again be at any show like that in my life.
Tammy Spinks was standing next to me and she grabbed me and she was like,
I'm so glad we got to go to a Beyonce concert together.
Because that's what it felt like.
She was performing the house down so funny on the mic.
Kept yelling at the DJ to play better music.
And it was so funny.
And just was like offering free drinks to everyone in the bar.
And then the bartender would be like, you can't do that.
And she'd be like, what'd you say to me?
Like, just, it was the best show Alyssa is one of those people who and this kind of goes back to
your thing about like something just like opening up I mean like before she was self-aware like
would never have done this now that she knows her power and her humor and her spirit like
everything is happening for her it's so cool before we move on to I Don't Think So. Hold on. Wait. I want to do something special.
So, Tim, I want to do two things special.
Here we go.
Tim just released a video called, is it When You're a Kelly Clarkson Superfan?
Correct.
When You're a Kelly Clarkson Superfan.
So, talk to me about what your thoughts are on the new Kelly.
I'm obsessed with the new Kelly.
I have never heard lyrics that bad in my life and yet i think
it's incredible music it is incredible music so so good and i bop to it everywhere that i'm going
i think the whole album is going to be on fire i have to be great i have to i can't wait so she
played the whole album for entertainment weekly i guess and they wrote up like an here's seven songs that are gonna be like new kelly carson classics from the album there is a quote
whitney houston-esque ballad called i don't think about you which is the breakup ballad for
all time i heard that it is based on her leaving RCA Records, but it's written
in a style of like, I'm leaving
you forever, and guess what? I don't think about you.
Pick me up off the floor, because I am
completely denied. Yeah, I can't wait. And apparently
she, this is the song
that, quote, shows off her range.
As if all the other songs aren't doing
that. I haven't done that. That this is the one
that shows off her range. That's incredible.
Amazing. Did they say Didn't I would be one of those songs? Didn't I wasn't even on the list. And Didn't I sounds amazing. Didn haven't done that. That this is the one that shows off her range. That's incredible. Amazing. Did they say
Didn't I would be
one of those songs?
Didn't I wasn't even
on the list
and Didn't I sounds amazing.
Didn't I sounds
like the best ones ever.
So Ramin Satuda
was like tweeting out
from the Rainbow Room
where they held
like a big party for her
on the day
that the two songs came out
and the album announcement
was made.
The Rainbow Room in New York
like had a big party for her
and she played like seven songs.
She played six songs from the new album and walk away which she's been performing
walk away a lot because i think it she thinks it fits with her new sound it's like a old song that
she has that she thinks fits in with what she's doing and it might be an rca dig too uh it might
be an rca the tea that she's spilling about rca is fucking piping hot the Dr. Luke thing
that you posted
was oof
I didn't read that
so basically
basically
she was a co-writer
on My Life Would Suck
Without You
but
they gave it all
to Max Martin
no
this is right after
My December
which was her album
that she wanted to do
for her
that Clive Davis
was like fuck you
we're not promoting it
and they're like
learn your lesson
you want to make no money you want people lesson. You want to make no money.
You want people to work for you that make no money.
Then do what you're doing.
Such bullshit.
And then she said, okay, fine.
And all I ever wanted was kind of like her red flag album.
Like, okay.
She said one thing.
She said, I don't want to work with Dr. Luke.
She said, I'll work with anyone else.
Don't make me work with him.
Literally no one but this person.
The very first single, they're like, you're going to work with Dr. Luke. She says they're like you're gonna work with dr luke
she says i'm not gonna work with dr luke they forced her to do it or they were they told her
they wouldn't release her album because i think she had a very bad experience recording since
you've been gone with him i have a feeling he was verbally abusive towards her in the studio
that's like where that's like the the the the t that hearing. Burn RCA down, bury Dr. Luke in the words of Matt Rogers, bury Clive Davis.
But she, bury Dr. Luke.
Clive Davis is a fucking, is seeing it in himself, I think.
And I think he's one of the reasons why Whitney is dead.
Thank you!
But the fact is, Kelly.
Tim and I just shared a look.
We're like, yeah.
Kelly, like, changed a lot of the lyrics to My Life Would Suck Without You
and deserved a writing credit.
And they said, so do you want a writing credit?
And she said, I don't want my name near his.
She said, I don't care how much money I'm going to lose.
They can have it as much as they want.
She's like, I want to send a message to the people that work with me
that this is not what's important to me.
She was pissed that they made her do that.
And then she also got fucked over on that album because ryan tedder yeah was using like identical tracks already gone in halo and halo and beyonce's halo yeah beyonce's halo
which of course is henceforth known as beyonce's halo well no just to make the distinction that it
was right that like ryan tedder basically had the same core progression, same melodies for Already Gone and Halo.
And a lot of his other songs.
Yeah.
Honestly, if you've listened to a lot of his music.
One Republic's Ryan Tedder.
Oh, golly.
XO is really good in here.
He helped write XO.
XO is great.
Well, he's a talented musician.
There's nothing to do with that,
but a lot of those songs sound the same.
It's like these mid-tempo mega ballads.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And she also got
fucked over on that song
and was public about it
at the time
so she's been
very unhappy
for a long time
so it's cool
that
those videos
you were showing me
of her
Matt was showing me
the videos of her
doing stuff live
and they were like
look how happy she is
she really does look
because she's able
to dress and act
and do the things she wanted
because she also said recently in an interview
that at RCA, they had every major female vocalist.
Sony RCA, which is the whole company,
they had Beyonce, Christina Aguilera, Alicia Keys.
They had everybody, Pink, everyone.
And the way she says it is,
she always wanted to make an album where she was singing soul
or urban music, but they would never let her because they didn't want her to compete with
other people they had on the roster that did that.
So she was always their quote unquote pop rock girl.
So she always made the same music.
Like, Since You've Been Gone was followed by My Life Without Took Without You, was followed by Strong Girl, was followed by
all these kind of... Rock, pop, rock?
Rock, pop, rock songs.
And she was never allowed to do anything different.
Meanwhile, if you see her live or see any of her live
performances, she just does
so many more things.
Everything, yeah.
You know what? That's huge.
And just hearing you talk about Kelly in this way
in depth, it makes me so excited for the new album well there's gonna be a lot of that yeah because october 27th
the album comes out and you know that i'm gonna be promoting it yes because that's my friend that's
your friend that's your dear friend that's my dear friend i can't wait for you to meet her someday
oh i really want to meet her and can i tell you something i am manifesting it i want to meet her
during this album cycle promotion
somehow,
some way.
I think it'll happen.
We're witches
and we are holding hands right now.
Yeah.
You will meet Kelly Clarkson.
You will meet Kelly Clarkson.
You will meet Kelly Clarkson.
I will.
You will meet Kelly Clarkson.
This album cycle.
What is it called?
Meaning of Life?
It's called Meaning of Life.
Meaning of Life.
And I want to do one other thing.
So tonight the Emmys are on.
Yes. So this will air on Wednesday. So I want to do one other thing so tonight the Emmys are on so this will air
on Wednesday
so I want us all
to guess
what will win
some awards
it's real close
it's real close
this year
and we'll see
who wins
and that person
will buy the drinks
oh
that person who wins
will buy the drinks
will buy the drinks
at Tammy Spanx
on Sunday at 10pm
so this is a gag category
Barracuda Barracuda
A legendary venue and Tammy's following in some very big footsteps
And she will fill those shoes
With a plum
You guys don't even understand I've never seen a drag show where I was just like
Oh every single song is exactly the song I want to hear right now
She is
She does log rolls into the audience
She's so funny
Phenomenal saw her perform in Cherry Grove this summer
So great She did my comedy show Drag Court She was phenomenal it's she's so funny phenomenal saw her perform in the uh in cherry grove this summer so great she
um did my comedy show drag court she was phenomenal she is really a consummate professional
and so talented let's talk best drama series so i'm just gonna say the ones that have a shot at
winning which is not house of cards in better call Saul so west world stranger things the crown House of Cards and Better Call Saul. So, Westworld, Stranger Things, The Crown.
Few.
Not, that's a limited series.
Oh, yes, of course.
And there is Handmaid's Tale.
And you're saying, I think you're saying it's Stranger Things.
You're leaning towards Stranger Things.
Well, I have a feeling that Stranger Things is going to win.
Yeah.
I'm actually, do we have to compete with you?
Or can we agree?
You can agree.
I really want Stranger Things to win,
so I'm going to also assume that too.
I think Stranger Things is...
Maybe Handmaid's Tale is the biggest competition?
No, but Matt is saying this,
and I don't know if this applies to the show overall,
but Matt is saying with the best actress
in a drama series category,
Elizabeth Moss is not going to get those votes
because of the whole Scientology thing.
I think people are sensing a lot of hypocrisy in her,
and that's not going to rub off well,
despite the fact that she is very overdue for an Emmy
because she went all those years without winning.
And she probably does deserve to win,
but I just don't think people are down
for the Scientology thing anymore,
especially because Lea Remini's show won.
Yeah. And in Hollywood, that's such a thing. think people are down for the Scientology thing anymore, especially because Leia Remini's show won. I think there's a message being sent.
And in Hollywood, that's such a thing.
It's like a statement to be like, I'm going to vote against the Scientology.
It's an interesting category because
Westworld has the most
nominations of any show. It's tied with SNL.
And that would
ordinarily mean that people would want
that would be the one to win.
But also there's the
crown which like a lot of people like and a lot of people feel like netflix is due for a win and
it's like the prestige kind of royal show that usually does well at awards such as news i think
quick tangent do you guys miss the time when we all were watching the same thing yeah of course
yeah we you all had like the one i this is maybe an insane thing to say
but i think this type of thing has a lot to do with the election to tie it all in that we like
have our generation is so used to having everything so catered to us down to our tv shows yeah that
they were like no bernie no hillary no trump no no no no uh up moon to pick jill stein yeah it's
like their version of like,
you can cater what comes in your newsfeed.
You can cater what you look at on Instagram.
You can cater what TV shows you watch.
Like everything is so individualized that we deserve.
We shouldn't have to conform to two parties.
We should like,
and I just think it's so nuts.
It is.
It's a very millennial thing.
I just want to say one thing.
I do miss those days.
Sudie Green is at the Emmys
right now and she just sent a picture of her dress.
Can you fucking gag at this? Oh my god, red.
Look. Oh my god.
She looks so good. She looks phenomenal.
I'm saying red for filth. She's wearing this amazing red dress.
She looks incredible. She looks
like fucking Alaska in her perfume commercial.
Are you ready
for me?
Alright, let's move on. This right, so let's move on.
Yes.
Okay, this is huge.
It seems like you've got one prepared.
I sort of have one.
So how about you go first, Matt, and I'll time you.
Okay, I will go first.
And this is, of course, I Don't Think So Honey.
This is the big old thing in our show here.
And Tim Murray has slayed before, and he will probably slay again.
But first, me. Here we go. First, Matt Rogers. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey. Time starts now. our show here and tim murray has slayed before and he will probably slay again but first me here we
go first matt rogers this is matt rogers's i don't think so honey time starts now i don't think so
honey the modern renaissance of horror movies bitch i am not gonna be squealing and squirming
and chirping watching these movies it that is not it i am not going in there the first time i saw
that clown i said there's something fucked up about that clown. Now I hear it's ripping off
kids' arms, dragging them under, eating them.
No fucking thank you. I don't
like. Scary! Mother?
Exclamation point? I don't think so, honey.
How about a question mark? How about
a question mark at the end of mother? Mother?
I don't think so. I answer that with a
no. I answer that question with
a no. I don't like to be afraid.
How about this happy death day? No, bitch. I don't like to be afraid.
How about this happy death day?
No, bitch.
I don't want to watch a girl die again and again.
I don't think so, honey.
And I know it's going to do well.
Because guess what?
All these teens are figuring out that horror movies make them come.
And I'm not into it, bitch.
Stop it.
Get your hands off of each other's crotches.
Go home.
Watch a kind comedy with Sandra Bullock, bitch.
And that's one minute.
I don't think so,
honey. We're gonna go see Happy Death Day
and we're gonna love it, I think.
It better be comical. It better be scary
and funny like Scream.
I think it'll be scary
and fun like Scream.
Not necessarily funny,
but fun.
And teens coming to horror movies,
that's where they go.
That's where the teens go.
This is Bowen Yang's
I Don't Think So Honey
and his time starts now.
I Don't Think So Honey
and forgive the basicness
of this,
the MTA, bitch.
Today, I had to go meet
Tim Murray and Henry Kapurski
for something I was so excited to do
to help them with their video, and it
took me 55 minutes
for what should have been a 20-minute
commute, bitch.
I don't think so, honey. The MTA. This was the
longest commute in my 57
fucking years in this garbage city.
It was horrible. I hated
every minute of it. It was sweaty. All the lines
were down. Every line.
30 seconds. Every line. And honey, I took the
bus today too. I did the subway
and the bus, honey. Yes, that's right, MTA.
You cannot, don't poke holes in this
because I took every single vertical in your
stupid, stupid umbrella.
And I hated every minute of the bus.
I hated every minute of the train.
You better get your act together.
I go to Europe, and it's such a better experience.
I go to Asia, forget it.
It's amazing.
MTA, you have a lot of catching up to do.
And Cuomo, you better fucking do right by us.
That's one minute.
Cuomo, you better do right by us.
You better be a do right man.
You better be a do right man.
Because you know what?
Oh, God.
And I know that it's so boring to shit on the MTA, but they deserve every word of hate
that comes their way.
Today was crazy.
And I felt so bad for you because we didn't care at all, but everyone was having that
same problem.
Everyone was late.
I had a fucking actually really good experience today.
Okay, whatever, man.
No, you were late to this.
What are you talking about?
I was three minutes late.
Three minutes of my life I'll never get back.
Here we go.
This is Tim Murray's I Don't Think So, Honey.
I can't wait.
And his time starts now.
I don't think so, honey.
People who slide into my DMs to ask about my friend.
If you are sliding into my DMs, honey,
you better be talking about me, honey.
You better be talking about how handsome I am, honey.
You better be talking about how funny I am, honey.
You better be donating $100 to my Patreon account
so that I can make more comedy videos, honey.
Patreon.
Honey, you're garbage, honey,
if you're doing that, honey.
And you, what?
You look at my Instagram,
you see a conventionally hot guy, so you click on his link.
30 seconds.
And then you go to his page and you see him shirtless and you think, that's hot, honey?
Funny is hot, honey.
Oh, you're not attracting me because I'm posting pictures of me in wigs, honey?
Fuck off, honey.
Gay men in comedy and women in comedy are not here to be your clowns, honey.
We are fully realized sexual beings, honey.
And I'm not, you're trash.
And I'm not going to get, I'm not going to have my friend take you out
Because we already did the chores this week, honey
You don't need me to get laid, honey
Because you can go fuck yourself
That's one minute
Wow, amazing
That is a great button
You might be iconic
You might be
Iconique I be. Iconique.
Will I hang in the
All-Stars Hall of Fame with Pat
Regan in Alaska? We'll have to find out at the next
I Don't Think So Honey Live.
And there might be a little format switch up.
Maybe we've
been talking. Real quick before we
sign off, I have to get sentimental on you both for
a lame moment. I Don't Think So Honey
Live. And to listeners, if you haven't been to don't think so honey live you gotta i don't think so
honey live part one was the week leading up to it was the worst week of my entire life i like don't
even want to fully get into it but basically like dark dark dark shit was happening i kizzled
everything that was happening and i was like i'm going to keep this one thing because i just need
like one moment to like take my mind off what's going on in my personal life.
And I went to that show.
And when I die, I will think about like the happiest moments of my life.
And being on that stage and like you guys squirting me with water is one of them.
That and seeing Idina Menzel.
At this very day.
But truly, I was going to write you both a handwritten thank you note
about what it meant to me
you should've
you should've done that
I did it's called
What Happened
don't you hold that book up
Tim no you were phenomenal
and that just warms our hearts
and you're bringing joy to the kids
and thank you for that.
Someone out there is listening.
And we are so excited that you are making as much stuff as you are.
And you always bring my...
You lift my day up whenever I see you.
I really, truly adore you both.
You've had such a positive impact on my life.
I'm going to cry.
That's enough.
We are crying here.
We are crying over there. We are crying here. We are crying over there.
We are crying everywhere.
We are crying.
We are crying over there.
We are crying everywhere.
We are crying everywhere we are crying everywhere
we are
crying over
there
we're
crying
this is classical teresa's
podcast my name is
my name is Mateo Rogelios.
My name is...
That's Tim Murray.
We love you. Bye.
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