Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Who Cares?" (w/ John Early)

Episode Date: April 26, 2017

Who cares??? You should, HONEY! Because this episode is a Tinseltown rollercoaster. Matt and Bowen hit their LA stride with special guest/comedy auteur JOHN EARLY (555, Search Party, Animals) who reveals that the secret to good living is fine dining. John takes the Culturistas through his own cultural development from Blockbuster beginnings (CLOCKWATCHERS!!!) to acting alongside RuPaul. Also, does John have any regrets about NOT sending Toni Collette the photo collage that he made for her (and of her) in fifth grade? Listen to find out!!!LAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasCONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASThttp://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But I have a problem. What? It's an overcast day here in Los Angeles. But it's okay. And to that I say, what the fuck? Here's the thing. And I don't mean to have an inane conversation about LA versus New York. But in LA, you get an unobstructed light, and it really does change things.

I mean, yeah. Okay, so anyway, that's my thesis, that's my treatise. Just for everyone that doesn't know, this is day four of Bowen and I being in Los Angeles, like, really, literally living on top of each other. And Matt has made such progress. We were walking down Sunset Boulevard. He points up to the Griffith Observatory. He goes, wow, look at that house.

I was like, Matt, that is... I thought it was a house. That is the Griffith Observatory. It's my second time here. The first time I was on vacation with my family. We went on a celebrity homes tour and almost died chasing Adrian Grenier down the street. The guy was...

It was like a safari cart. And the guy's like there's adrian grenier and then we really almost died trying to get him and it wasn't poetically that would have been so poetically i think beautiful of you i would have loved that to be to be the the news the news you guys we have a resplendent guest speaking of the sunshine oh baby baby baby can we talk about the credits let's talk about the credits okay as he fucking sharts out his mouth he gurgles into the mic um so listen you can see it well first of all this is actually brilliant 555 on vimeo honey it's not just a place where you watch people's acting reels anymore vimeo no no it is a full platform honey 555 with the fucking queen

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Yes. June 24th and 25th. Check him out then. You guys. Welcome. John Early. Hey You guys. Welcome. John Early. Hey, guys. Hey.

Hey, John. Podcast voice. Well, I really, I'm sitting here and I'm like, this could be the podcast where I learn to like, try to let the artifice of it melt away. Yeah. No, this is that. Yeah. What you're saying. It's the moment.

You're saying there's a lot of artifice now? No, no wait wait by the way i love artifice you gotta love but i'm talking about i'm talking about mike's headphones because i yeah i've been on you know a million podcasts yeah it's part of the part of the round you gotta do it and i always i never really get to a place of conversational ease. It's impossible. I'm immediately comforted by both of you guys. Really? I am. We know each other from back. In the jaw.

I remember John. First time I ever heard about John was he was in a production of a production of, here we go. Psycho Beach Party. Charles Bush. Charles Bush. Charles Bush. I didn't see it, but I heard such amazing things.

But no, but people were like, oh my God, John Early, John Early, John Early, John Early, John Early. And I was like, okay. Blip on my radar. Blip, blip, blip. And then, of course, Start Your Skit. Guys, if you haven't seen Start Your Skit, it is truly like the seed crystal of this whole thing. Oh, my God.

Of John's whole career. You must. I mean, it still holds up so well. It does. Just Google Start Your Skit. It's fantastic. Google it, bitch. Also, if you want to see me at my skinniest.

Sure. I mean, but who wasn't skinnier in 09? You know what I'm saying? It was just a time when we were all, we all had jawlines and felt great about ourselves. It's far enough away now where I can look at it and I'm like,

oh, I look young. You know? Like, that's... You're forever young. Matt. You know,

there's, I won't deny that the change in my physical activity from when I was 19 to, it's like night and day. Like,

I used to be like a runner. Really? I ran every single day. And now, this is our second day in a row eating McDonald's. And I know that it will hit me tomorrow. It's coming. I can feel the body changing. But physically, it hasn't really repercussed. But it will.

And I'm very aware that it will. Well, anyway. Sorry, we don't need to i am you i always make it about weight no moment within 10 minutes i've this is the gay community and we should be talking thank you we it's not only a weight journey for me it's a jowl journey first and foremost it's like when facial weight facially it's like when when is this gonna like just zhuzh up i don't know no i'm just saying i'm like when did facetime be like when did i when was i all of facetime right you know what i mean

i take up the whole frame now no that's just that's just an arm length thing that's no it doesn't matter how far i could put it at the end of the room and if i walked in my face takes the whole frame but when it's a parallax effect 100 john it must be how are you emotionally what's your climate what's your climate i'm good i'm i'm actually really good good i just moved here yes and it's perm we we've established that it's perm it's perm um yeah i i'm just like having a great time. I've met some great people. I'm loving my little bungalow. Let me say John moved from a beautiful place.

Greg told me it was a beautiful place in Cobble Hill. Wait, Greg? Greg Kazatak. Oh, yeah. Beautiful place in Cobble Hill. Or was it Carroll Gardens? Carroll Gardens. It was in Carroll Gardens. Carroll Gardens.

Beautiful place in Carroll Gardens. Really right on the border. Right in the middle of Carroll Gardens and Cobble Hill. Yes. Or was it Carroll Gardens? Carroll Gardens. It was in Carroll Gardens. Carroll Gardens. Beautiful Place in Carroll Gardens. Really right on the border. Right in the middle of Carroll Gardens and Cobble Hill. We know it. We know it. You know it. And then to go from that to Silver Lake. I mean, it's the ultimate.

Come on. I mean, that's a lateral move for me at least. Yeah. I feel like Carroll Gardens is like. No. Yeah. I would kill for that. I lived in South slope yeah i like almost

almost sunset so close yeah they called it greenwood heights yeah heights uh but anyway um so you so congrats on the move sorry i just had to like just just take that tangent with the the carol garden was it an anguish decision or you were like no it's time i'm ready there was no thankfully there was no anguish because i thought i had a job like kate and i thought we had a job and so there was no choice it was just like i have to move just pack up and move which made it so easy yeah i sobbed my brains out i was like i delayed my flight for four days i just kept pushing it back and like literally hourly like i would like push it back a few hours push it back a whole day and and i just like refused to pack and then like the night before sorry was that a pop no no no no no that was an emotional reaction um the um then the night

before i like i just like went up did put every for all my furniture on craigslist for free and like had like scavengers come pick through it. And then I, you know, whatever. And I just, I was a mess leaving New York. Had a very kind of clean, like on the plane ride there, I read, my friend sent me a PDF of goodbye to all that,

Joan Didion. Oh, that sure helped. And then I finished the essay and then I had purchased the Jonathan Gold documentary on iTunes. Oh, wow. So I just, so I provided a, I really took care of myself.

You did. I made that, that, uh, flight a metaphor. Sure. Yeah. And I, and I, and I, and it was beautiful. It worked. And then I got here and I just, I've had such a great time. Great.

I love it. That's good. And you know what? New York is still there. It's still there. It's still there. And the work what? New York is still there. It's still there. It's still there. And the work's still there. And the work's still there.

What was the toughest part? What set you off in the sobbing marathon? The sobbing was like, well, first of all- Not the people. Not the people. Not the people. No, what set me off was like, I think it's just i spent all 10 years of my 20s in new york and so just it's just a very natural like uh it's over my 20s or it was just saying goodbye

to my 20s i guess and then also like there is something so devastating about moving when you're single oh like when you're doing all that stuff by yourself and you have no one like i had like three i had like four suitcases like everything was packed and then i had four suitcases that i was taking on the plane and i was like it like dawned on me it was like fully snowing and i was like when i was like waiting outside for the cab i was like i literally am not going to be able to carry these the stuff from the cab to the check-in. Right. Or whatever.

Check-in? Check-in. Check-in. Who knows? Who cares? That's the thing about your podcast. Who cares? Who cares?

Who fucking cares? That's the thing. But, yeah, but then I was like, this is so brutal. I just, I don't know. It was just, you just start, and then I just started, like, looking at past, I couldn't help but start thinking about past relationships. You were revisiting the romantic aspect of new york and there's just something about like leaving a city for good with no one you're like you're like oh well i failed which of course isn't true which is my heightened emotional state i'm like

i never nothing ever worked and you think it's gonna be easier because you're like oh there's nothing here to fucking keep me behind i'm not tangled up in anything here but like kt tune stalls playing underscoring the move yeah it it was i don't know i just was like i was like i was really upset but i think it was also just a totally normal emotional response that i was then like trying to like assign meaning to when it was just like a big change, a big change. Yeah,

sure. I mean, we're here for a week and I spent the whole first 48 hours like having an anxiety attack. What was it about? You know what? It was really just like, I felt like it,

you know what it is? It's like a Pavlovian thing I'm having, if that's even the right word, where it reminds me of long Island where I grew up because you have to drive everywhere yeah and then i was we were sitting around we were separated one night this is how fucking dependent i am we were separated one night and i was like what are you doing and he didn't respond for like two hours and i'm like what's happening what's going on am i in high school it's very the kind of thing this isn't a city first of all i'm say it. This is a part of a state.

Okay. And you got to drive around. And maybe it's, I don't think so, honey, Los Angeles. It's a pastiche of neighborhoods. No, I'm having a good time now. But yeah, I was just anxious. Maybe it is because I'm separated from Henry. Oh, that's it.

It's a boyfriend. I'm just crazy. Who Henry? Who Henry? Henry Kapurski, man. He tinkled the keys. Oh, yes. I know him.

But literally, he's like such a facebook person for me and he just got back on facebook and he's been very absent for six months in fact everyone everyone check out his recent post where he's detailed everything that's going on in his life in the past six months that facebook has missed he listed the shows that he's watched one of them is search party which he loved thank god a little bit of love for you there um but yeah no at that and i was thinking to myself like that's how crazy it is like he feels like the need to like update everyone like just so you know facebook we've been we've been apart and here's what's going on right like the point was to actually excise all that impulse yeah to like share what

you're doing and then you come back and you have like that's so funny no it was it was very but i had a conversation with someone yesterday who's like not on facebook and never has been and she's like it's very interesting it's like food and water i was like well it's not but it sometimes feels that pervasive yeah yeah yeah sure but it was but to go back to your anxiety oh yeah it was henry related you know what it is it's coming here and not loving it at first and knowing oh i, I might have to move here someday. Well, are you eating at the right restaurant? It's literally just, like, where did you go? Oh, my God. Honestly, I've been pushing Mohawk Bend on this one.

And we went there for drinks. We did. Guys, it's immediately just, no, stop. Here we go. Tell us what's up. Tell us what's up. Put us at ease. You need to do, you need to go to, okay, well, are you staying here?

We're staying. We're moving. We're in between Airbnbs now. We're going to be in Little Armenia. We're going to move a little bit closer to the water. You need to go to Night Market Song. You need to go to 12 Familia. You need to go to John and Vinny's. You need to go to Chengdu Taste. I'm going to write all these down.

We got to go. Is this on cool? Chengdu Taste is the best Chinese food I've ever had in my life. Chengdu Taste. We gotta go. Is this on cool? Chengdu Taste is the best Chinese food I've ever had in my life. Chengdu Taste. We're going. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Anything else?

Yes. Okay. There was a lot of other things. Can I ask you, is this on cool? We went to Connie and Ted's. I love Connie and Ted's. That was great.

I loved it. I love it. Had a great seafood stew. That's a great. What an assortment of oysters that place can lay out. Guys, our waiter, our server came by to talk to us, talk us through the menu. His name was Max.

Matt saw the oyster list and asked him, and Matt works in the industry. I'm industry. He works at a seafood restaurant. Where? Brooklyn Crab in Red Hook, you know it? In Red Hook. So Matt, so Matt is, Matt is very. It's called Brooklyn Crab.

So Matt has like a working knowledge of this. And he asked, do you guys have all these oysters and then the and mac says yes we do and matt this is so adorable uh and his excitement and his delight uh was uh said wow that is super cool i should qualify that no place has a dozen different kinds of oysters that's true unless that's an la thing and in which case I will move here. Okay. I love myself some, some raw shellfish. Raw shellfish.

Yeah. But Matt is really, um, is really acclimating to the city. Well, and to the showbiz here. Speaking of showbiz, John,

can we talk about five, five, five, please? We just binged it. And holy shit. You guys are so good. It's nuts. you should be super proud

you should be so proud oh my god just so many thoughts and just so many good thoughts about it I felt very seen by aliens yes I grabbed Bowen and I was like this is literally insane also Nicole Spezio is so fucking funny on it so good fan of the pod Nicole

love Nicole have you been on the pod no she will be on but she like will quote it back to us sometimes she's the best oh my god hi nicole hi um but holy shit i felt superseded by that episode it's like when you guys are describing the characters that you have i just love everyone knows that's every fucking showcase yeah what was that what does the title mean that's what and we know it's five different installments i mean it's literally that simple and then it just happened to like also have some thematic relevance of just like 555 is the fake area code they use in movies when there's like a phone number oh i didn't even know that yeah it's like it's whenever it's because

you legally can't be like 310 yeah but like We do have a phone number in one of the shorts, which we didn't even know one on set was considering. And we like, when we were editing it, we were like holding hands and we called the number. We're like, Oh my God. Oh my God.

And then it was a fax machine. Oh great. So we're fine. Wow. Subverted there. But yeah, five, five,

five. Yeah. That's the fake area code. And so we're like, Oh, that's kind of nice. Cause there's like, it's like related to Hollywood and it's like, yeah, it yeah it's you know there's some like element of artifice in

every short you know whatever i was hoping it was as simple as just there's five episodes it literally is and by the way good job because people are literally never consider that people yeah we've been interviewed so many times people were like so there are six shorts i'm like no five i mean it's so weird to me that no one picks up on that right oh my god it's so good that last shot of i mean it's it cuts from you here's a question i want to dive right to the truth of this can he see at the end of the fifth episode i or do you not even know well listen or do you that was not in the script at all that was actually that moment of me looking at kate is actually just when we had stopped shooting okay

now now i love it makes it even better and we were shooting we were we were gonna shoot something where i was like looking past her and we accidentally made eye contact and she was gonna that's why we have the reaction of her being like yeah yeah but then in editing it was like it just worked really beautifully andy who directed it was like just it was like a really effective powerful ending however i don't think he can see okay i'm not interested in a short in which he can see andy and kate might disagree with me on that okay but like i don't think i think he's really going blind like yeah no for sure he's screaming in the meeting like he's really going blind and like and yeah so i just i just don't think he would make it up to get out of his life or something that you could

you can interpret it that way my interpretation was yes the book club that this is that he gained his sight back in that moment she was like oh was like, oh, fuck. And to me, that was clearly what was happening. Well, I like that. I like that. Like, I looked to Bowen and I thought, we thought the same exact thing,

which was like, oh my God, he can see again. Not that he could see all along, but that he can see again. No, he genuinely was blind, but then he gets it back. I don't know how.

Do you never consider that? Amazing Grace. Yeah, really? I, no, I honestly only considered it as either it's literally an accident like she's actually making that content and she's confused or he has been faking it right and that's to reveal it but that is beautiful and i want to say that that's right i'm i was positive this is

why we record this podcast yeah we get to that kernel of truth. Also, we started that episode and Bone goes, I love her straight hair. Stop. No. Fuck. God damn it. No, no. That's not how I meant it. No, but it's great. She looks amazing. She looks great. I mean, like, it's not about the hair, but just in that, for that character. No, it's perfect. But she did look amazing.

It's also, Kate was so funny with the straight hair. It was the way that it was parted. It totally informed the dancing. And then also, she just, as Kate herself, the whole day was like, this is crazy. She kept taking pictures of herself. She's like, this is insane. It is insane.

I'm telling you, I haven't had straight hair since I was 12. I was like, I know. She was absolutely obsessed with her straight hair. And it really, I mean, she could have done it without the hair, but I feel like the hair really put her into that fully literally obsessed. It was that extra push. Totally. Wow. And then Bowen turns to me and he goes, we really are all

robots. We all fucking talk like that. So y'all were high. We were not. We were very sober. Shockingly. But I was like, yeah. We just fucking talk like zombies. That's what this whole thing is. we were not we were not we were very sober but shockingly but i was like yeah like we just fucking talk like zombies that's what this whole thing is like we have a certain friend that we that we looked at each other and we're like that's yeah like that was that the actual was that the syllable count that was the syllable count that's yeah actually yeah and you know what they don't

listen to this get because who cares because who cares who cares who fucking cares but it was so it was it's so good i'm so glad you'll like it. You should be so proud. I loved it. Every single episode was great. And also, I couldn't believe how dark. How dark? Very dark. I thought watching the first episode, I'm like, oh, we're gonna get a narrative here. She's gonna find him.

No. But there is a little gentle narrative. Right. Yes. And also, Kate's character at the end says, you have to hear my new client. She's a genius. Yes. You're supposed to assume that the girl made it,

not me. See, and I was confused about that. I was like, is this a world where gender is not a thing? Right. For a moment. Oh,

no, no, no, no, no, no. It's that she, she's that shot of her pushing at the end.

It means she survived. And like, you're supposed to assume that somehow she gets her vengeance. Right. Right. Yeah. And there was the other little nexus there for the series.

The Tube. The Tube. The Tube. The Tube. Yeah. Love that. Anyone who's listening who has not watched it,

which is 98% of your listeners, it is just so funny to be like, The Tube. The Tube. It's going to be one of those things that I don't drop.

I mean, I think it's legitimately so fucking amazing. I want everyone to watch it. Me too. and while we're talking about that okay so we we touched down here and some of our friends told us about this video they were like you've seen this and i was like no freckle freckle oh freckle's a genius we just in green we just discovered this and i don't think anyone in new york like knew of it yeah but it's insane guys look it up look it up jason green freckle acting reel and then all the caleb gallo stuff

stuff it's so good anyway i hung out with freckle a few times since i moved here and it's so funny it's so funny yeah i extremely extremely funny so so can't let it go all right so listen guys this is the moment in the episode where we ask of our guest the cultural beginnings of john early so what was the culture that made you young john early say cultures for me i want to move in a cultural direction yeah well it was really like southern boy i was a southern boy in nashville tennessee nash um home of country music yes and the show nashville and the show nashville and the movie nashville yeah of course of course um i what culture i mean yeah like it's a broad question it's tough but um it No, it's very easy for me to answer.

I'm honestly just like, where do I, where do I start? It was mostly like, you know, it was the blockbuster trips. It was like my mom dropping me off a blockbuster as she was grocery shopping and like going to the Sundance recommend section, which happened to be very close to the gay and lesbian section. So that's where I was really going. So were you looking at them and not renting them or just seeing what was out there? Yeah, I was looking at the Sundance stuff

and then shooting the eye, darting the eye over to the gay stuff. Yeah, not renting. Yeah, it's like when you go to Target and look at the underwear. Yes. Just like that. I did rent, rented queersfolk eventually

but like asked for it in a to-go bag and then i would get in the car like what'd you get i'd be like sense and sensibility i just yeah it was and then i would watch it and in like with my remote an inch away from the tv like i would like my eyes were this close to the screen in case they came in yeah just I was like I'm like one volume anything yeah yeah no but that's but through that kind of like I don't know what I think I was very much like trying to be older than I was and I was obsessed with like the idea of having good taste and like, and like surpassing my like childish peers in their like love of like Zoog Disney,

you know? And so like, I was very like annoyingly proud of like, Oh, I also, my sister had a friend, Jenna, who was so funny and cool and gorgeous.

And like I was, she was she's my older sister and i would always just try to impress her and make her laugh and then she was like i told her i was like i love the movie clock watchers with tony collette and lisa goudreau and parker posey and that movie was the start of like a lot for me yes and then she she started kind of like oh you should see these like bridget fonda movies and like so there was kind of like, oh, you should see these like Bridget Fonda movies. And like, so there was kind of like, and these Parker Posey movies, like there's kind of like a 90s indie film,

like with women in the leads. Yeah, yeah, of course. That was very important to me. That was, but then also just like, I watched I Love Lucy constantly. And then I remember like seeing the Spartan cheerleaders and being like, my god i like and not knowing what snl was right i was like nine i'd be like who what is that yeah and my

parents explaining snl to me and then like going back you know each generation of snl like finding the women of each generation and just becoming obsessed with the women of snl because for spartans i mean for me it was i'm sure this is what you're alluding to. For me, it was all about Sherry. It was all about Sherry. I had like an autographed picture of her. I was so obsessed with Sherry. Morning Latte is like the foundation of my sense of humor. It's so funny.

Yeah, Will Ferrell could have been invisible. He was great. But he's obviously amazing. But like it was about her absolutely but also like it just feels like he he's such a good scene partner too like yeah it's so cool that like he is such a mega star but then you go back and watch snl he's like such a good supporting player it's like her on a gas star molly shannon there are like so many little duo stuff that he does where he like takes the back seat you forget that he's the straight man in celebrity jeopardy you know what i mean essentially it's like that's like one of

the things he's known for and you would never associate will ferrell with like you know straight man solid straight man but like he does that extremely well he's so good yeah such a good i was gonna say what what emotions get stirred up when i say the name tony collette because you yeah a deep love i really like intense emotions yeah i really loved her so much and i mean where do we begin the site is a gay icon there is something about her that hits on like such an intrinsic level. Because literally me, your solo show, you talk about make her proud. Oh, yeah. And that is like. It is really gay.

It is gay. Yeah. Totally. Because it's about dance. It ultimately tells a queer narrative. Ultimately tells a queer narrative. I had a teacher in college that was like we have to talk about the six cents and specifically this scene in the car and tony collette got an oscar nomination she did and just about like

that scene in general like being actually what made six cents a great movie yeah well he was like an incredibly gay teacher okay but so i was like yeah this is very for you his name's paul selig he actually also is a psychic medium wow dramatic writing instructor and psychic medium wow you can find him online i recommend you look him up um he literally speaks to them yeah great in a tongue yeah it's it's that but he was very into tony collette too yeah and loved scene. And I was very happy that I was like, yeah, maybe I did make the right choice coming here. They're going to tell me this is right, that I was attracted to this.

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Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Yeah, she just, I don't know, it was really like, it was Clock Watchers and Muriel's Wedding were the two that really, and there's just nothing, there's, her performance in Muriel's Wedding is so undeniably genius. Yeah. And like, it's just so good. I named my dog Muriel,

you know, like it was like, it was an intense, I like, I made her a collage for her birthday that I never sent. Cause I was like, Oh wow. No, but I got so close.

I was like Googling her managers and like, I mean, well, Alta Vista-ing her managers rather. But like, it was, I like made a collage with like pictures of her in like paper magazine and then like and quotes of hers like why would anyone want to receive this because like it was like quotes of tony's and then and then there were fun facts about me oh my it was like favorite food, pasta. Favorite movie, Clock Watchers. Like, I mean, it was like, yeah, I was obsessed with her.

Okay, well, reverse it. From like what age? Age like 10 or 11. The sweet spot. Because I saw Clock Watchers because of Kudrow. Because I was so obsessed with Romeo and Michelle. And then I was like, and then it really was like, I really felt a shift when I watched Clock Watchers.

I really was like, you know, I think you can, at some point over time, you can have like a gradual like intellectual awakening. Yeah. Where you go from childhood to like, not everything is good. Yeah, right, right, right. The moment. Yeah. Or you can have like a very like sharp, clean moment.

And I had like a fully clean, like was like watching clock watchers i was like why is this affecting me so intensely and i was like scream sobbing watching it because it's so dark oh my goodness and it's really it's really gentle and simple but it is dark i've never seen it you have to see it okay yeah that's gonna top my list for me now. Yeah. It's really beautiful. But anyway, but I was like, you know, it's like four friends and they're off as Tim, so they're like, you know, horribly mistreated, but they kind of become really close friends despite that. But then like, there are these like off, oh, I won't tell you, but whatever.

I'm not going to tell you. You should watch it. It sounds like a nice, it's like a realer nine to five. Is it a very dramatic movie? I don't know. Well movie well it's quietly dramatic there's no histrionics yes yeah exactly so you know it's dark yeah um you can do dark no histrionics but with those actresses that's great yeah it's it's so it's so good but yeah i don't know i just i so i think i just forever associated tony and she's the main character and she also kind of like becomes self-actualized throughout the course of the movie but she becomes self-actualized not in some sort of like tropey movie like she finally

follows her passion of singing like she becomes self-actualized because everything falls apart around her and it just like sucks but she's like like, well, this is it. This is life. And I just like, yeah. So I like, I think I just felt like I owed Tony like my like awakening. Wow. And like, yeah.

And yeah, I was going to ask if, if it gets, okay. So reverse the situation of like, just imagine someone sending you a collage of you yeah in quotes and your quotes and then they list off there is some little gay out there that's putting it together okay so then that would so you would receive that positively yeah totally i know but i think i just

was like so embarrassed oh yeah i don't know why was there was there a closet element to that? Well, definitely. There you go. And I made a website for her. And I was telling my teachers about the website. I was telling all my friends. And then I realized I was gay. And I was like, oh, no. Yeah, this is why. I was like, there's a website. I was like, I literally, I'm out, essentially.

Was that the moment? Was there a moment where you visually remember like oh i'm gay well not because of the website i just was like yeah i'm there's like literal proof on the internet this is how far it goes website yeah it's like there's no hiding it now and it's my own fault totally 100 i mean i remember getting asked like when like first day of school type questions like everyone put your favorite food this this this favorite actress favorite whatever favorite this i it was probably 2001 i was like of course i'm gonna put nicole kidman because moulin rouge and the others and just the versatility yeah and but everyone was like well who are you gonna put down and i was like i can't i knew it was wrong to say

nicole kidman and moulin rouge so i ended up putting Tara Reid. And I walked around for quite a while saying Tara Reid was my favorite actress. And then I remember my Spanish teacher turned to me one day and was like, so Tara Reid, what's this about? And I just said, oh, I saw her on a website. And then she was like, cool. And I was like, ew, I just literally said the straight thing that I thought I was supposed to say and it was like ew i just literally said like the straight thing yeah that i thought i was supposed to say and it was gross oh my god i was like i should just fucking said nicole kidman i also used to lie and say i loved limp biscuit well i was baptized by the bassist in limp biscuits

father so i'm sorry if you're listening wow tom. Tom Borland. Yeah, but I kept thinking to myself, I was thinking back, did anyone actually like Limp Bizkit? Oh, sure. I guess they must have. People definitely like Limp Bizkit, okay? Okay, you're right. I also had a babysitter that I thought was cool.

It was kind of like your sister's friend. Her name was Mickey. Her name was Michelle, but everyone called her Mickey. So there you go. And she loves Creed. And so I bought several Creed albums. And then I still owned them years later when it was like, Creed?

When they were like a full punchline. Wow, sisters? Huge. It's huge. Sisters are huge. Sisters are huge. And sisters' friends are huge, especially if they're older. Older teenage girls who are cool and funny and pretty.

Yeah, it's a it's it's a thing and not to like bring this into it but like for for immigrants like families older sisters who had like essentially white friends who like were tapped into that because that's that was like the funnel for me was like okay this is the source and it's all coming down to like this very specific upbringing i have but anyway um oh my god i'm dying to know about that i don't well it was just like um the first time i ever heard about fucking ah like um like mandy moore yeah it was like through like like it was like white friends white friends like peripherally white female friends that i could only that i could i could

only befriend through my sister yeah Yep. And so that was it. So yeah, I mean, the paths are all different, you guys. Well, they ideal, it's like when I first saw Alicia Silverstone,

it was like, I need to know everything. Yeah. Can, can someone explain everything? So there is that. Yeah. I mean,

she's, that's one I wish would, would just be everywhere still. And what's the movie she's going to be in coming up? Like, it's like, Oh, she's like a mom.

Diary of a Wimpy Kid. Diary of a Wimpy kid yeah that's it good for her yeah hell yeah she's booking you know there was a movie that came in a couple years ago with her and i think kristin ritter that amy heckerling directed it was called vamps oh and kristen johnson's in it yes yes yeah did you see it i didn't see it no and i i was like i remember hearing that it was going to be a thing and then i was like oh that'll be big yeah because amy hackerling and elijah silverstone that'll be a big deal that they get back together and then i don't know i guess whoever just decided they weren't gonna it just never became a story and i guess it just didn't get enough publicity for people to come out and see it so i feel like it didn't even come out. Oh, no. Maybe it did it. Maybe it went straight to home video or straight to the web or wherever things go now.

VOD. VOD, baby. Well, you know what? Alicia's fine. Amy's fine. Alicia is in... You know what? There's a new movie with Anne Heche and Sandra Oh.

Oh, called Catfights. Yeah, with them beating the shit out of each other the whole movie. Did you see it? No, have you seen it? Have you seen it? I walked out. Really? I was so excited.

Yeah. Yeah, it seemed like it's going to be great. It should have been. I love those two actresses so much. Come on. It is written by an idiot. Like, it's just not. It's like the dialogue was horrendous.

I could not believe it. The production design, like, it was you it's not just like it's low budget like i could make it look so much better blindfolded like it was so oh i don't know it was very disappointing seeing like extremely good actresses have to say such shitty lines and like i was like always already i was so down for it to be like not great yeah you just get to do something juicy and like beat each other up I didn't get that far because I really had

such a bad feeling about it was it because it was offensive or was just bad just bad no it was just bad it was like it was

it was like it was very like I it was like it's like watching like a Paul Verhoeven thing but like with like less skill it's like like a director who's like

and you two you hate each other but you love each other like you could just feel like like a man a straight man like pitting women against each other like and and i just it was stupid well that guy like the director i don't know what else he's done but he's apparently this huge dirt bag and yeah there was a guy on doug loves movies yeah yeah yeah with ann heche and sandra oh and the last time he was on on the show was plugging some other film where and he just got shit faced and like was belligerent and like tried to get in a fight with fucking

with fucking doug and then they and he got kicked out and so they came on again to promote this movie the three of them yeah and it ended up with the director and anne hayes getting kicked out again because it was such a scene and she was just being very um she was really i guess on edge about the way he had been treated last time and that was kind of clear and she was very defensive from the beginning i actually listened to it yeah and sandra's kind of sitting there quietly the whole time kind of just behaving and there to promote the movie yeah and they had made such a spectacle yeah the director gets kicked out almost immediately And Sandra's kind of sitting there quietly the whole time, kind of just behaving and there to promote the movie. And they had made such a spectacle. The director gets kicked out almost immediately.

And then Anne Heche is kind of just being a jerk. She's being a jerk. And she's trying to turn herself on. And she's trying to do bits and stuff. But she fails catastrophically. Meanwhile, Sandra is charming and great and nice. And they get kicked off and then they're like i'm he's kind of like so what's up and she's like look i just want to talk about the movie i'm excited about the movie let's just talk about it and then they

had a great interview just the two of them yeah sandra's clean promotion honestly it made me it made me watch the trailer i hadn't heard about it before yeah you know what you got to get out there and you got to get that trailer on people's screens. If it means fighting publicly on podcasts. So we should start a fight. We should start a fight on the pod to promote.

Are you shooting Search Party in New York? Yes. Oh, great. I'm coming right back. You're coming right back. I said off the air before we started, John is the prodigal son of new york coming to do a show i'm so excited uh are tickets on sale for bell house yeah yes great cool as of like today great get your text oh as of today which i don't know what today means in podcast world well you know they'll have been on sale if you're listening now so get them now for that they're not sold out you never know what happens um i love the show too

the search party good yeah oh my god i'm obsessed with meredith she's so good yeah she's really great she's so special what's her story like did she like not a comedic actress before this or i mean like what she's like yeah no she's like a proper actress like she is a north carolina girl but she did like she like did soap opera she like moved to new york at like 19 and was like i think maybe as the world turns i'm not sure yeah one of them but she did a soap opera for a really long time she has this amazing story about like she got nominated for a daytime Emmy oh hell yeah and she's like she didn't know that you could choose your clip like that they show when they're announcing the novel i didn't know that either so like they're doing all the nominees and everyone's is like like super like

like eyes full of tears like really dramatic scenes and then like it got to hers and she literally was just like she's like mom i want to have sex and she was like 24 playing a like 17 year old yeah yeah anyway but yeah she's so she's really done like she she's to like do musicals i think or she would audition for music she's like a proper like hit the pavement new york actor girl yeah and like it's all worked out because she really is she i just can't wait for people to cast her in like beautiful romantic comedies oh yeah she can do so much more but i just feel like she is so charming and magnetic and like a meg ryan like yeah yeah she would excel in that yeah and we need in the media we need meg we do need we need that type there's really we need meg if you think about it who is out there

that's doing the romantic comedies because i miss going to see romantic comedies i love a good solid rom-com too and then i guess there was katherine heigl there for a few years and then that for whatever reason didn't didn't pan out yeah but now there's really i mean pan am didn't pan and now there's like the sandra bullock sandra bullock well yeah sandra bullock proposal was not too not too not too long ago not too long ago i think the proposal was longer longer okay you know what was it like 2006 and i'm nine two thousand nine you know what i think i saw it when i was yeah no it was the same year as uh blindside oh i know that for a fact are you sure because she was and this is like i'm a little bit of an awards gay so she was nominated two times in a year and a proposal and i think the

blind side and she walked away with the globe for the best actress in the drama one the globe which also now now i'm and the oscar eventually yes that's what you're saying you know and i will bravely say that that was gabourey Sidibe's Oscar. Absolutely. Of course. You disagree, though. I don't have an opinion. That was a pretty boring best actress here. That was Carey Mulligan. For an education.

Wait, who else? That was Gabourey, Carey Mulligan, Sandra Bullock, Meryl Streep, for Julie and Julia. I'm asleep. Okay. I know and then there was one more and I can not possibly remember

who it was Brett can we look it up can we guess it okay imagine if Brett just turned around and knew it I'd be like

okay you're my fave now we were talking about Feud earlier and I was like I didn't know who Hedda Hopper was until this show

and then Brett's like oh I knew about Hedda and Luanne and Luella Luella Parsons Luella Parsons and I was like I didn't know who Hedda Hopper was until this show and then Brett's like oh I knew about Hedda and Luanne and Luella. Luella Parsons Luella Parsons and I was like god. Original gossip divas. Brett's a better gay than I am. But what drives me nuts is when you say that they're allowed to pick their clip because my least favorite thing is when

the clip show and they cut to the actor and they make this face like oh god can you believe how awful I am? Jesus I'm so embarrassed. i'm humble i'm really a humble person but it's worth that that's at least better than like yeah i know yeah you're right you're right listeners can't see but i was doing a stoic like melissa george we'll just complete melissa george no no no melissa leo melissa george is a different actress i know the best i'm sorry well tony when t was nominated, her clip was the car scene.

Of course. But they didn't use any of the dialogue. It was just her tearing up. So it was Haley Joel Osment talking, and she was like. And then it cut to her, and she was with her parents. And she was so embarrassed. And hilariously embarrassed. She was being funny about it.

But that year. Jolie. I know that category so well, because I was her manager at that point. Yeah, right. So it was her in sixth sense, Angelina Jolie, Girl Interrupted. Can you fill it out? Can you give us maybe one? Was there a Joan Allen?

Was she nominated? No, is that wrong? Let's see if it gets there. I'm pretty sure I know all of them. I don't think it was Joan Allen. She may have been nominated for The Contender. Wait, wait, wait. Was there Vanessa Redgrave in there or Lynn Redgrave?

Okay, this is not a year I know as well. Well, I'll give you a couple more. Catherine Keener being Joan Malkovich. Yeah, okay, yes. Which, that nomination blows my mind in the best way. Yeah. I love it. She's so amazing.

Yep. Samantha Morton, Sweet and Lowdown. Sweet and Lowdown. Okay. And finally, oh my God, it's so incredible the fifth one wait what chloe 70 boys don't cry yes okay wow that might be my favorite category ever that's best supporting it was best actress which is always my favorite best supporting actress is where it's at for me wow couldn't give a shit less about best supporting actor y'all one thing about this la

trip that's really like stuck to me is i was over at a friend's house, and there was just a bunch of fun little showbiz gays. Here we go. The thing that they do is they whip out the heads up on the phone. Oh, yeah. And they have a deck that's just best actress and best supporting actress winners, and I was just out of my element. I was just like, oh, and you know what? I've accepted this on this trip, and it's a beautiful part of my journey. I was like, I'm never going to be that

gay who knows. That's fine. It's so fine. Oh my god, here we go. Oh, Helen Mirren, The Last Station. That's the one we mixed. Which, honestly, like this podcast, who fucking cares?

Listen, I have the DVDvd so the last station i've never seen it what's it about i have no idea but i was like at i was like with an old teacher from inouye i was like at her apartment one time and then i was like i was like oh the last station and she's like do you want to borrow it and i literally just like was so i cared about her opinion way too much like no because i absolutely didn't want to borrow it and i i've had it for now like eight years i've never seen it wow well hey i'm scrolling through this now just looking at who's one and i guess they ordinarily get it right i mean what category it was it was gabouret precious gabouret precious i thought see my thing is when it comes to oscars it's like did you give the

performance that no one else could give it's like that's kind of my it's like did you give the performance that no one else could give? It's like, that's kind of my, it's like, did you put your individual unique stamp on this? And that makes it worthy of really raising up and saying, everyone should see this. And for me, like, Gabourey and Precious, that was like a very special thing. Sandra Bullock,

you know, you can cast a thousand actresses in that part. And they do exactly that because all you really have to be is an actress to do it. I mean, and not saying that Sandra isn't amazing amazing i think she's fucking amazing but you know sometimes like i get that it's an industry thing and it's a show and it's entertainment well also just like politically like give it to gabby you know like make a fucking statement like and with that criterion of just if no one else can if you're the only person who could play this role or that that's what you're saying, if you left your individual stamp on this role, I would say Gabby too. Yeah.

Because who else would have played Precious that? I mean, and I just, well, first of all, there is no one that we know. Right. And she's actually had a good career. Yeah. She's done lots of great stuff. She keeps it going. She's been amazing and the thing is like i even thought last year like i when they said emma stone was gonna win an oscar for la la land

which they said like eight months before like i didn't screen at some festival and they were like it'll be hard to beat her for the oscar in fact i think yep the art industry has already decided that's the way it's gonna go that means you have the best publicist right you're paying like eight thousand a month at least yeah for a publicist if that's happening i'm sure that's how it works but then it's just like you know months later they're like by the way annette benning is in a movie that's fucking amazing and it's like oh but we already decided it's gonna be emma so good so good no yeah and nothing against i actually like i come to emma stone's defense lot. I thought she was great.

She's one of your closest friends. We're very close. We, of course, we briefly met on Stone Street when I was working in a bar called Ulysses and she was filming The Amazing Spider-Man outside on the street. And she came in to use the bathroom and I pointed her in the direction.

And ever since then, it's just been a magical carousel. No, but I thought she was good in the movie and people came for her singing. I was like, yeah, but who can sing really? Who can sing really? Anna Kendrick? Would you rather Anna Kendrick? No. No, the answer is no.

By the way, okay, I know what my thing is for the end. It just here rhymes with Schmona Pendrick. Schmona Pendrick. No, I mean... Okay, well, we, wow, wow. It just here rhymes with Schmona Pendrick. Schmona Pendrick. No, I mean... Mm-hmm. Uh-huh.

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Okay. That's enough. And we're back with John Early. Yes. Hey, guys. Oh, man. Some huge news just broke over the break. Yeah.

Broke over the break. John just got the RuPaul follow on Twitter. Okay. Well, congratulations. Thank you so much. First of all. Thank you. Second of all, spill the tea. yeah broke over the break um john just got the rupaul follow on twitter okay well congratulations thank you so much of all thank you second of all spill the tea what was he like on set john and john and roo share a moment on the season's animals on hbo tell us everything well um it's it's a live action episode of a typically animated series yeah uh and it's very innovative yes it's very um the the the tone of this is very like kind of like scooby-doo like evil scientists like and um and i and so rupaul plays this like evil scientist who's developing this like

pill for civilization i love it and i am i am his like assistant oh my god like like nervous gay assistant who also might have some evil motivations of his own oh i see i feel like when you talk about rupaul you always want you want him to be like this like person on set giving out sage advice and like really talking and was it that or was he just like oh yeah that's a person yeah like no he's 100 percent like they're giving the sage of it they're like moments where i like overhear rue being like i'm a medium and when i'm on a train in new york city i pick up people's energies and if someone's in pain i feel that pain you know and he's an empath he's an empath yeah and uh but no but it, but I was so nervous. I mean, I'm typically very good around my heroes.

I'm good at just kind of being very transparently a fan of them. I think it's the better approach to be like, I worship you, rather than being coy. Yeah, yeah. to be like you know i worship you rather than being like coy and yeah yeah um and and yeah so i i was i but i was very nervous around him and like the first moment of shooting i immediately like i did on this podcast i immediately made it about weight in what way like how so what'd you do well because i like there was like an issue with my costume or something where, like, the wrong size suit was, like, brought to set or something. And I was, like, I was, like, popping out of it.

And I was, like, and it just made me feel insecure. And I'm, like, oh, God. Right, right, right. And then it's, like, the first moment with RuPaul, I was, like, oh, no. Oh, no. I just, it's, like, vomiting out of me. I was, like, well, first of all, I'm a cow. I was, like, you're a legume. I was, I was like, well, first of all, I'm a cow. I was like, I was like, you're a legume.

I was like, you're a string bean. And he goes, he goes, he goes, I do not need your life story. In like a shady way or what? Well, no, in a very funny way. Like he was absolutely sensing that I was just like talking out of my ass. And it was so stupid. But, and so that was so that was so hilarious and then like so then of course i was like wildly intimidated like john please calm down and then

and then you know on a break or something he's like where are you from and i was like nashville we started talking about country music and he knows like every mandrell sister you know like he's he's so he loves the mandrell sister like he throws that reference out all the time. Yeah. So we talked about country and then later he was like, what's happening, John? Is it happening for you?

Are you auditioning or whatever? And I was like, I'm going to be honest with you, RuPaul. I was like, it's happening. Yeah, great. I was like, I'm going to be honest with you, RuPaul. I was like, it's happening. Yeah. Great. That's the best answer to give him. I was like, I'm not going to be modest. I was like, it is popping.

Yes. Yeah. And he loved that. He was like, don't make me laugh at that. So that was good. That was when I kind of broke through. And then we spent two days together shooting this stuff. And it was very, oh, then he was like, at one point, he was like, what's your favorite

movie? And I was like, oh, God. Like, it's such a dream to be talking about movies at all with paul i was like and i kind of got in my head i was like no i don't know it's like there are so many he's like i do not need your life story and then he was like and then i was like clock watchers yeah and then he was like cackling oh the fact that i like clock watchers oh my god um and and then we started so i started telling about tony and and i did like we started talking about just like i was like you know i i see i was like it's so funny to me when people talk about their influences like when i think about like actors

talking about their influence it's always like al pacino you know and i was like but it's literally it's like tony collette and like about a boy it's like it's like like meaning i'm doing moment for moment tony in certain things like i can feel myself physically like just facially doing tony colette and like about a boy it's like it's like look meaning i'm doing moment for a moment tony in certain things like i can feel myself physically like just facially doing tony like that's what i associate with like dramatic scenes or something and because she's like all i've really exposed myself to like dramatically because everything else is like i'm obsessed with comedians you know right yeah so and he was like he was like i see tony and what you're doing i see that and then i was like and then he was like i'm doing Tony and what you're doing. I see that. And then I was like, and then he was like, I'm doing purely Faye today.

And we started talking about Faye Dunaway. Oh, wow. You know, and we talked about what he's doing on Drag Race, like reference wise. And like, it was just really fun. And he was like, you know, we were talking about like people, you know, like it's so fun to like diagnose who people's influences are. He was like, you know what Cher is doing. And I was like, who?

And he's like, Elvis. I was like like that's so genius that's so true so we had a we had a lot of fun kind of doing like reference lineage together and then we were talking about Faye Dunaway I was talking about this interview that with Faye Dunaway where she's like on a bed and it's like in Cannes it's like probably this early 80s late 70s and she's like she's smoking a cigarette it's like a 10-minute interview and she's like probably the early 80s, late 70s. And she's like, she's smoking a cigarette. It's like a 10-minute interview. And she keeps trying to prove that she knows French. Because the interviewer is French. So she'll say things like,

she'll be like, sorry, sorry, can you close the door? Fairway, left, right. And there's one part where she says literally just avec, which is with. She's like, I mean, i don't even know what the sentence is but she's like i did this one movie with avec um she literally says with and then frozen one other with like because she knows two words yeah yeah yeah with um it's so genius but i was telling rue about that and he was like dying and then so i was like oh i have to get him that link

you know and then um you know and then and then when it was over like he was he walked by oh yeah when i was leaving he was like he was like john he was like 40 feet away he was like email me at and we'll get lunch in new york so you know and then and by the way that email doesn't work i shouldn't have said that not as email but. But because I did, I went and I sent the email last. I sent the email. Oh my God. You should bleep it out. We'll bleep it out.

We'll bleep it out. Just bleep it out. We'll bleep it out. It's number two. Thank you. Great. But I emailed the email with the Faye Dunaway link. I was like, such a dream working with you.

Like, true hero. And, you know, and then immediately bounced back. But I do, I don't think it was intentional, obviously. I think he was being very generous and very sweet. But it is funny, I just don't know the proper email. Well, hey, but no, you really just connected with him, though, despite that email situation. Oh, my God.

I love hearing that he's a great guy, because I feel like so often now, as friends, you just get to know people in the industry more. It's so often so disappointing, and for someone like RuPaul, that would be really crushing. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that would be too much, I think. He's very powerful, and also he was on a set with a lot of... People were really being respectful of him, and they knew that this was a big day, that they were like a set with like a lot of, like people were really being respectful of him.

And like they knew that this was like a big day that they were going to work with RuPaul, you know. But it still was like, it's a pretty straight show. Like it's like a comedy, like hetero show, you know. So there was something interesting about like RuPaul in that environment. Like where I was like, do people fully understand, like, how special this is? Yeah. Because, you know, so many people don't think of, people always refer, or I feel like people think, like, gay culture is low culture.

Yeah. And so it's, like, it's interesting. Like, this is a person that's entirely an icon in a real way. Yeah. Not like, you're an icon like like the way the way you throw it around like that's he's the real legend yeah and very intelligent and like has through just like decades of being a public figure has a kind of developed a philosophy you know that's like very helpful to people yeah anyway but it was it was. He's very powerful and intimidating, but he's also very...

He was extremely curious, and we just talked a lot. It was so nice that he was willing to, in the downtime, the fact that he was just totally down to dissect Faye Dunaway. It's so on the nose, but it was so fun. Yeah, no, it's great.

But also, I forgot to tell you this, when we would have long breaks and we'd go back into holding he had his own we were like shooting in this weird like space like a studio where like they do like procedurals and so this was like we're holding was like in a fake courtroom and he had his own like his own little dressing room that was like a judge's office or something and he but because it's a studio there's no ceiling so you can hear everything like that's going on the other rooms and on every single break he watches the golden girls that is perfect yeah well and and i've heard anecdotes about it being judge judy on on days, it being Golden Girls on other days, and now I think he's on this 30 Rock kick.

Oh, that's what I'm on right now. Talking about nonstop. Oh, you're just watching? Yeah. It's so deeply comforting. It's my go-to. It's so good. Oh, my God, I remember you posted.

It's so reliable. I remember you posted a few months ago just from the pilot episode when we were on the yacht. This is Jenna. It's the funniest thing. Just singing, yeah. Oh, my God. Do you watch Veep? I don't watch Veep. episode when they're on the yacht just jenna just the funny song but just singing yeah oh my god do you watch veep i don't watch veep it's the next one i need to watch yeah god i gotta do it

you gotta do it and are you up on this season of drag race no i haven't watched the season well speaking of drag race and speaking of rue um we've like it's been well documented on this podcast like what are like what room means to us like this is sort of a broad question but like just what is rooming to you like with your uh i guess like upbringing just because like we've talked a lot about rude philosophies remaining consistent over years he can really release you yeah i think i mean for example like in stuff that i do i feel like this is bizarre but a lot of people agree with me about this it's like the kind of like don't give a fuck like truly don't take your life too seriously there's something about when rupaul said it and just all these mantras that i was given it's this is like

insane but we talked about this with nicole silverberg it's the closest i felt to ever like feeling like i had like not a religion but something to go by totally whereas like there are things i can say and like remember that remember when you wake up in the morning like like be a light henry says all the time so like yeah i mean i feel like and he that can really set you free in your work too like in the way you perform in the way you write like do you feel i guess the question is do you feel that way about rupaul like has rupaul like guided you in some way yeah in some ways like i mean well when i was little i was so one of to go back to the literal very first question of the podcast like the brady bunch movie was so important yeah huge

and and him his scene as miss cummings the like therapist yeah the guide counselor with jan was like so monumental and i was like something is happening here that's like very deeply smart and like satirical but there's also a real sweetness to it because it's like the way that that movie positioned jan as like a gay icon and she is like the heart of that movie yeah yeah she's like they like the the climax of the movie is her running away and they're the whole family like going to get her and like right and there's all that stuff but it's the new jam brady and her putting on like the afro wig yes yes and then like being on the streets of la like it's just i don't know that was that was and there's something

about rupaul being the guidance counselor that i feel like is just so like divinely placed it's like it's very special and sweet and so i was always in love with that scene and always like being the guidance counselor that I feel like is just so like divinely placed. It's like, it's very special and sweet. And so I was always in love with that scene and always like transfixed by RuPaul and was obsessed with, you know, supermodel and whatever. Um, and then,

and I loved her VH1 talk show too. It was just such a nice moment. Her and the sequel of Brady Bunch too, when they run into her at the pool and her two daughters are there. Moesha, Moesha, Moesha. It's so funny. Just that she had daughters. It's so great. Also for RuPaul to be the guidance counselor

and now she truly is the guidance counselor and mother of so many people. John mentioned just over the break that you guys shot that for animals two days before the election. Oh, my gosh. So then you just blocked that out for people, right?

Yeah, it just literally disappeared. And then in the past couple weeks when I was like, oh, it's coming out, I was like, that was very special. That was a nice couple days. But, yeah. When we felt so confident. Yeah. Just thank me for yeah thanks bowen uh you said something before that

that actually i didn't realize about myself too but when people ask about comedic influences i can very rarely really articulate what they are but i can name like dramatic influences that affected me comedically yeah like that's very much a thing i think maybe yeah for a lot of for a lot of gays yeah totally that's just that's very real and i i'm not surprised that but when you can pull from tony and like your comedy oh yeah absolutely but when you say that you can't name a specific comedic influence is that because it's like it just maybe honestly maybe it's a thing of being truly um because when i was having them when i was in high school, I was so aware that they were gay and I needed to keep them a secret. I couldn't just say, oh, Sandra Bernhardt and all her albums.

You know what I mean? That wasn't something I could just toss out. It was like, oh, everyone's saying The Simpsons? Okay, cool, The Simpsons. I never watched The Simpsons. I recently saw Sandra Bernhardt on the subway. And I had the moment where I was like, am I going to tell her what she means to me?

I was like she doesn't want to be bothered I don't think. It's hard. Maybe if it was a situation where I was working with them I would tell people what they meant to me or something and um No that's fair.

I did something with Jerry Seinfeld years ago. Oh, sure. And it was more about like, I feel like I remember this. It was Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee. I was on like one tiny, I was on two episodes of it

and I was playing with, this is, it was so insane. It was Jerry and Kramer. It was Michael Richards and Jerry Seinfeld and I was like playing the assistant and I was like watching them go back and forth and I'm like,

this right here is like something else yeah and then at the end i i just kind of came out of my mouth i was like you know my parents will kill me if i don't get a picture and i didn't mean to say but that's genuinely what it is that was like a good way to frame i think that's smart i remember being five years old and like listening to like from the next room like hearing my parents laugh at that and whenever and then really i had i didn't work with but i was very intimidated by him i think because he felt like another generation and then i did a very short thing with lena dunham and it was like very casual and i was like see this maybe it's because she was closer to my age yeah but i i didn't feel like the need of like i need to be very nervous or anything like that maybe that's just getting older jerry didn't shake

her hand he didn't shake my hand whoa am i allowed to share yeah did you i was i was fully i was like hey he actually cast me so he was in the casting room and then he offered his hand oh no i offered my hand i was like thank you so much and he was like oh i i don't really i'm a little i'm a you know i'm sick germaphobe it was as if he was making an excuse i was like oh that's fine he's like this is my writing partner went to shake his hand same i don't i was like really neither of you gonna shake my hand i was like okay it just it just felt like, okay, cool. Great. These people don't shake hands. And then with Lena

Dunham, it's like a hug. And she's like, I'm a huge fan. I'm like, you're not. But like, you know, you're not. But it's very nice of you to say. Speaking of, you guys, Girls came to an end last night. We ran into John at a bar a couple days ago.

And then John was like, what's the theme for the app and and then i just i just girls girls and then you just laughed you're like yeah whatever oh my god girls fun though fun it was i didn't watch it it's fine it was it was good it was it was very i mean i actually was pretty satisfied with the way that it ended but i'm gonna love it anyway because i also know that a large part of it is like it's not going to satisfy everything that you want. It's like with the end of every show.

Not every finale is going to be Big Little Lies, people. Oh, right. Universally perfect. I know. It's amazing how they did that. They really pulled it off. It's so satisfying.

Were you loving it the whole time? The whole time. Yeah, me too. From the second it started. I mean, I was completely on board. There were things that like major red flags that like if they weren't within something that was so great,

I would probably be upset about. What do you think of the Greek chorus? Like the like sort of- Well, that's exactly it. Like that's something that like I should have been so annoyed by. I'm like, Madeline, let's just say she didn't you know like but that but i didn't care like i was totally on board for that and then like

like the lip syncing is absolutely unforgivable it's so insane it's not okay it's a horrible choice i'm i'm it's a horrible choice and zoe kravitz should not have sung that well or like as comfortably as she's saying. It's like, it would have been so much more interesting if all three of them who sang actually did it. I mean, Zoe did it. Yeah.

The men did not. But if they had actually done, I'm not saying this was their choice, by the way, because I know Adam Scott's listening. He's obsessed with me. But like, but those people,

like the, the, the fact that they, who were the people they hired to sing for the men because that was humiliating and hbo should be ashamed of themselves it was weird also like it's i did read the novel and it's a full departure from the novel they called it trivia night in the show all year and the fact that then they were all working on their elvis impressions and we're gonna perform i was like is this a joke that the show is making? But in the book, they

literally do a trivia night. Oh, yeah. With trivia. With trivia. And they talk about how, ooh, you know, Jane's really good at trivia. We're lucky she's on our team. And Perry apparently is good at trivia in the book. But then in the show, they call it trivia night all series. And then there's like these weird performances which do not happen in the book and don't need to happen in the show which makes me think was it a thing where it was just specifically to showcase zoe kravitz singing interesting i mean i liked the idea of like seeing parents out of their comfort zones right but like that then the second

they started singing they completely abandoned that because their voices were like uniformly beautiful yeah and we're like the voices of someone who's been singing on the road for 35 years like yeah what like you could have had you could have either had Adam Scott and what's-his-face. Who cares? Yeah, I mean, not I. Yeah, love Adam. But that other guy. Whoa. First of all, slow down.

He talked so fast. Oh, my God, yeah. Every scene. I was like, I don't know what he's saying. Oh, wow, I didn't even. You're right. Way too fast. It also might be an accent thing.

I think he might not be an American. Oh, sure. Which I have a problem with, honey. Were you hearing nicole's australian accent yeah but you always do a little bit okay yeah she does i'd rather do i'd rather she lets it slip during those dramatic things i mean especially in the car scene in the finale i'd rather have what nicole has than what kate winslet does which is i'm american right i'm speaking in this way ours in Revolutionary Road it was

very over the top but yeah Nicole I could kind of hear the lilt and I think when people were like oh yeah the therapy scenes are so relatable my Australian accent always slips out when I'm in therapy I literally know what tweet you're referring to

hi Joel is this Joel well it wasn't joel it was joe castle baker but honestly joel joel probably did tweet about that by the way i meant in my head i meant joe and your name flew out there you go yeah honestly yes i did like that tweet it was it was a good one it was a good one but i in my like gay impulse of like my 11 year old who feels like he can't say nicole kevin and Moulin Rouge was like what the fuck are you talking about she's perfect did you get a little tiff

no not at all I stayed clear away from that one oh my god no what am I gonna do like defend Nicole Kidman's honor on Facebook and destroy your friendship with Joe there's been some annoying call out posts haven't they of late oh sure sure sure some New York specific stuff you don't have to worry about it, John.

Yeah, things are different for me here. I mean, there's a lot more sunlight, there's a lot more happiness out here, a lot more interest in exercise. Can I just say that my favorite, to me, the single funniest performance in Big Little Lies was the therapist.

Robin Weiger! Her absolute stillness yeah yeah like the more the stakes rose the more she was like elongated spine and like and all in her head was like slightly turned and like it was like when she was like leave him i wish your listeners could see me because i'm doing it perfectly you are doing it it's like it's just she's like just go find a place and don't touch your lawyer like it's it's so funny and it's like and you can see her mourning of you can see her like with her husband being like it's nicole today it's a nicole day well listen she played a fucking uh statue in angels in

america and she was calamity jane in deadwood right i saw like well i went to her website it's amazing it's just like it's like it was designed by someone who went to like no c college of art in tennessee strange reference but it's like it's like so it's tough oh wow but it's all yeah it's just someone who's just like it's not her fault it's just like the time of her being like oh i should a manager probably you should get a website yeah it was like 2002 and it's like it's so funny it's been left untouched since yeah it's been untouched since then. Yeah, it's been untouched since probably 2008. Her biggest credit is her two episodes on Lost.

Was she on Lost? Yeah, she was. She's really like an actor's actor. She's like a Sarah Paulson before Sarah Paulson became Sarah Paulson. Well, she's going to get more work now. Oh, I think. For sure. She's amazing. And that's, though, all the casting on the show was pretty great. Besides,

you know i yeah i agree with you nathan who cares but but also kind of genius to like not care about the men to like to make the men just like less interesting yeah and whether that be through the writing to this or the casting it's just like yeah it's it was absolutely just about like relishing in those women yeah it was so good i loved that that. Laura Dern for the win forever. Laura Dern and I patch. She's so great for the win. I was on board, I think, the second Reese Witherspoon started limping.

It really didn't matter what else happened. I was like, okay, yeah, this is it for me. She could be in anything and I'd be on board. She was so great. She was so great. So great. John, what's next, baby? What do you got going on?

What do I have? Well, we're going to go shoot some search party. I got some real fun stuff to do that I just heard about. Oh, my God. I literally was like, I'm missing the table read. What? No, no, no. It's tomorrow.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I was like, oh, my God. Delete, delete, delete. Wow. No, I would say. Table read of F1? Of delete, delete. Wow. No, I, let's see. Tiberita of ep one? Of five eps.

So excited. But yeah, Kate and I are working on a show together that I'm so excited about and I hope the world gets to see it. So it's just something that you're working on now? Yes. We've written something and we're hoping we get to make it.

So I really hope it's a good it's i've never met her i think she's so amazing she's a star she's a full star like i watch her in that show and i'm like the academy award i know she's an incredible academy award the banana videos oh my god how have we gone this long without saying we haven't talked about banana phone i love banana phone it's shut you should be so proud i'm so you dp all those honey i shoot them honey we can see them together but it it rests on her performance oh my god well of course i would retire on them okay that'd be it for me the cap and the gown can we ask this like how do the premises do those organically? Well, it very organically happened because

we were in the Vancouver airport so stoned. We were on tour together and we were like, she had a banana and she just like, we have a joke that we always do together where we just like, we'll be talking and I'm like, oh, sorry. And we just take a fake call.

It's like a good way of like, if someone's talking about something that's like very sincere it's just funny for us to be like like so and then we always like pretend it's the other person's manager and we're always we're like we're like yeah i'm with her right now and i'm like i'm like oh god okay sure i'll tell her yeah she needs to know and then she's like what is i'm like i can't get into it you know it's like it's like our favorite thing to do and so she started doing that with a banana and i was like i was laughing so hard and then you know and so i just started and like by the people in the line were laughing it was very sweet and then and then we were i just shot her doing the one of like where the first one where she's just kind of like you just said i love you yeah and it was just it was killing me it was so funny and then once we did that one we were like we

should do we should just like follow the relationship the second one was the was the roses the flowers and she just had she had those roses in the apartment where she was staying and so like we'll use these and then and then it was more just about like trying once we like did those, we're like, it's always just about doing that kind of like small demure thing. And it's like, like, like rom-com. Yeah.

Like dramedy, like rom-drom. Like, you guys nail it. I think my favorite moments of five, five, five are in a series of amazing moments. There's definitely you guys on the bed as actors. I think my favorite moments of 555 are in a series of amazing moments. It's definitely you guys on the bed as actors.

I love that so much. You getting the number wrong is, it's pretty perfect. You don't get better than that. And also the scene where Kristen Johnson's like, yeah, just put it wherever the fuck you want. I feel like I hear someone start to laugh in the back. Yes. Oh, totally. We were laughing so

much i can't imagine being on set with her and especially doing that scene that you guys do where she gets on the floor in front of you guys watch 555 thank you oh my goodness i'm not gonna you know i'm not gonna fucking ruin the whole thing please please watch it watch it figure out what the tube is 399 for all five episodes there you go and then you know what catch some acting reels. Why not? Exactly. While you're there.

I actually have a great thing to show you guys. Well, not, well, actually there's no way you're going to find this because I don't know what it's called, but I'll figure out a way

and then maybe you can tack it onto the episode. Send it. Oh my God. We'll tack it on. There's a real company, R-E-E-L. Uh-huh.

There are real companies, I'm sure, plural, but I found one on YouTube and it is a treasure trove where it's a treasure trove. Where it's a real service where they provide the kind of generic scenes, like a courtroom scene, like a quirky friend scene, a romantic scene. And they shoot, like, we found it, because Kate and I were watching this girl that we know, we were watching a reel. Because, you know, late night, whatever.

And we were like, what? It was like so eerie, weerie we couldn't figure out why we're like what the hell is going on and like and then we were like oh they've they've literally haven't cut away from her it's not cutting between two people it's just one shot and there's like a shoulder in the frame to be like the other person but it's like it's clearly it's either a literal dummy or it's like an intern who's like gotta stand down yeah we're like it's clearly not an actor it's just something just felt false about it and then we realized every scene was that like there was never cutting to the other person and then we like looked at the the the youtube account that was making it and it was like all these generic reels it is the funniest i mean that need that. And it's on Vimeo?

No, it's on YouTube. It's on YouTube. Okay, good. That's a new wormhole. We can stumble on a couple. We'll just do a wide net search of real companies. Real companies, yeah.

And then we'll just shoot them over here to confirm. Okay, oh my god. So now this is it. This is where we've gone to the segment of the show. It's the moment.

This is I Don't Think So, Honey. We take one minute to rail against something in culture that's bothering us. Matt. John has alluded to his. John has alluded to his previously. Matt, do you have anything? I don't have anything.

You know, I have one. Okay. All right. I have one. All right, let's get one minute on the clock here. Okay, this is Matt Rogers. I Don't Think So, Honey. One minute on the clock.

Time starts now. I Don't Think So, Honey. Cloth napkins at restaurants. I, this is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey. One minute on the clock. Time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Cloth napkins at restaurants. I want a paper napkin. You don't know what I need. I might have to blow my nose. I don't feel comfortable blowing my nose in a cloth napkin. You want to know why? Because I guess you're going to reuse it? I mean, I would imagine if you're paying the money.

I don't think so, honey. You know what? Take the money, put them into something else. Get better quality food. How about that? I want paper. I don't think so honey you know what take the money put them into something else get better quality food how about that I want paper I don't think so honey cloth also you know what I'm sorry

bougie just like just dress it down bring it back bring it back to basics you know what if you give me a cloth napkin and it's a plastic table

there's a disconnect there I work in a restaurant I'm industry so I feel like I can give you this advice. Make it work. Make everything match. If you're going to charge me $49 for a king crab leg, I don't want to eat it on a paper plate.

And then don't tell me this is casual fine dining. This is, it's adverse. So I don't think so, honey. I've had allergies while I've been here. The restaurant has one that had cloth napkins and I didn't know what to do. I had to go in the bathroom for toilet paper i don't think so and that's one minute wow oh boy i'm missive against the restaurant industry wow wow um i

agree and that to me is culture that's culture because i've been very involved in the restaurant industry for about 10 years and you know what best practices we're trying to get out we're trying to we're trying to get out very badly. It's around the corner. We have our toes dipped into the tour guide industry. Okay? What tours? It's called The Ride. It's fantastic. It's in New York. Okay, you've probably seen it.

It's like a big sideways bus. It's like a comedy tour. It's a comedy tour? Oh, yeah. So it was originated by Darcy Carden and Timothy Dunn. Yes, yeah. And it's a comedy tour oh yeah so it was originated by darcy carden and timothy dunn yes yeah um and it's just evolved into this great thing now it's like it's like they get a lot of ucb people to do it it's like yeah they put two comedians on a bus and call us tour guides and they're like oh know enough about the city that when you fly by you can say like when when it was

built or like what some dates about and then just make a bunch of like jokes about it right oh that's fun and now i'm thinking because i'm starting to get the point where i can't really do the waiting tables thing anymore yeah the other day a woman had some cork in her wine and she's like i have some cork in my wine and i was like does it matter and she was like um yes i should have been fired but hanging on can't believe you weren't. But the thing is, I've now heard that the tour guide stuff, it's actually not that hard. And it's pretty easy to get a license. And you make great tips. So, we'll see.

Hopefully, we won't have to come to that. But, you know. And then hopefully someone videotapes you on the tour. It goes viral. Exactly. You get a series. You get a series. Someone else.

You should EP. Tour guide series. I'd be. Honestly, I would be honored to put my name on it. I just know time-wise for me. It's not going to really work. I can't kind of get my hands dirty in the way that I actually like with integrative process, but literally my name's on it. Which is really what matters, right?

By the way, guys, it will have aired by now, but last week you'll have seen me on Who Wants to Be a wow i didn't do that great did i oh okay are you serious yeah it's gonna well it's airing on you know what it's not bad five k's a few dinners recommended by me here there you know what yes just a few 5k is us hitting up connie and ted's again there you go i'd get that seafood boil you did it you did it Now there's other places Move on We're doing that You worked at a seafood place Move on Chengdu Taste

Chengdu Taste Sushi Park Sushi Park Sushi Park's gonna be your expensive one Okay cool You're gonna go to Sushi Park You gotta get a reservation You're gonna do omakase

Do you know what that means? No I just learned to sweetie Talk to me What is makase? It's omakase It's when the chef just makes whatever is fresh oh and i had to say i said no raw shellfish because literally just spiritually i was like no yeah

freaks me out you might be fine with that i'm good with it yeah so but like but it was the best sushi i've ever had hands down good to know love sushi and it's just and they and they know it's just so nice wow wow wow um we're making a rest where sush and it's just and they and they know it's just so nice wow wow wow um we're making a rest where's that and where's chengyu taste monterey park chengyu taste is in san gabriel valley careful careful and um sushi parks in west hollywood fun fun fun we'll go we're going but you're not gonna where i'm gonna leave with a list please you know what i mean yes yes yes absolutely i can't talk um okay i think i'll go but you're not gonna I'm gonna leave with a list please you know what I mean yes yes yes absolutely

I can talk okay I think I'll go time for you oh okay I think I have something you have something good yep alright this is Bo and Yang's

I Don't Think So Honey and time starts now I Don't Think So Honey talkative lift drivers here in LA one guy yesterday was just like

the bro-iest bro and was trying to talk to me about baseball and the Dodgers and I was like sir I'm so bro and was trying to talk to me about baseball and the Dodgers and I was like, sir, I'm so sorry. I'm listening to this new song. Please leave me be. But he kept

pushing Yasiel Puig onto me, you guys. Yasiel Puig. And I knew, now I know shit about this person and I don't want, I don't have the real estate in my brain to know anything about Yasiel Puig. 30 seconds. About how he's the hothead

of the Dodgers, about how he had a promising start when he was first picked and but now he, you know, he's batting what, like he's batting 70 something.

I don't know baseball. I don't know what these stats mean. I don't know what these metrics are. I don't think so, honey. Do not push this hetero narrative onto my trip here. I don't think so, honey. Lift drivers who,

Matt and I had a terrifying lift driver on over here. She was swerving and twirling and just trying to plug her vacation. Tracy Renee. Tracy Renee, her Airbnb substitute business. I don't think so, honey.

Talkative lift drivers and that's one minute. That's one minute. Listen, coming soon to you in LA with Stacy Renee. She has got a name for it. It's gonna be, not only is it gonna be an Airbnb, it's gonna be a destination. Oh, wow. She's gonna hang out for it. It's going to be, not only is it going to be an Airbnb,

it's going to be a destination. Oh, wow. She's going to hang out with you the whole time, set up dinner. She'll serve you. She'll have activities for the kids back at the Airbnb. She'll have jump ropes.

She'll have a kiddie pool. She has it all planned out, but logistically not feasible. And she detailed all this as she was driving us wildly. I was like, this is crazy. It was,

that's the thing about LA too, is like you take a lot of lifts and you get who you get. You get who you get. Today, the guy goes, he, he goes, um,

he's putting on the, the navigation and it was not, it was like not agreeing with him. And he goes, just like all women, right? She doesn't listen. And Bowen just goes,

okay. I think, yeah. You did. You had like, you had like an exasperated which I was proud of and then he goes he immediately goes sorry yeah so they're learning he cleaned up John this is your moment

I can't wait for this you don't have to it doesn't have to be what you originally planned I think it's written in blood so we have the timer in front of John this is John Early's I don't think to. It doesn't have to be what you originally planned. I think he has to. I think it's written in blood. So we have the timer in front of John. This is John Earley's. I don't think so, honey. Time starts now.

I don't think so, Anna Kendrick. Listen, and this is why. I am, by the way, as you know, RuPaul just followed. It's like the Twitter clout has increased so heavily in the past two years. I know that I am risking a lot by talking about this. Okay, but to me, it's worth it. You named your memoir Scrappy Little Nobody. Scrappy Little Nobody?

God damn it. No, no, no, no. Okay, I just don't know. I don't know really what else to say, but that's absolutely inexcusable. It's not okay. It's not okay. I don't. You're not know really what else to say but that's absolutely inexcusable it's not okay it's it's not okay i don't you're not a scrappy little nobody if you're like if your quote is like three million for a movie you're not a scrappy little nobody if you have a house in the hollywood hills like i just and you're not a scrappy little nobody if you have an ingenue singing voice like

i don't like that, that's... No. There you go. I'm sorry. I didn't say my... But... You know what? And listen, by the way, come at me, like, defend yourself. Like, I know you're a longtime listener, but like, I don't know.

That's one minute. That's one minute. Now, listen. Here we go. You're absolutely right. No Cinderella is a scrappy little nobody. Was she in the... Well, I guess Cinderella is a scrappy little nobody and who then...

But, you know, you get it. She was in the Stage Door movie, right? Or not, like the camp. Camp, that's what it was. I'm so sorry. Oh my God. No Oscar nominee is a scrappy little nobody. No.

Thank you so much. You're welcome. It wasn't, I don't know, whatever. You know what? It was measured and it was correct. It was correct and that's the most important part. I guess I'm just a scrappy little nobody. You should name your autobiography that just because.

Just, just cause and just get the cease and desist, but ignore it. Some, one time a guy said to me, he's like, I mean, I don't understand why we're giving Lee and Michelle any parts when we have

Anna Kendrick. I was like, first of all, that's, there's so different. By the way, I have zero opinion of her work. I actually don't know her as an actress.

I just saw the book in an airport and I was like, what the hell is going on? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think she's good. I mean, I certainly liked Into the Woods. I liked it very much. I think Pitch Perfect is like... The second one is fully... There's a lot of...

Full trash, full trash. A lot of racism in them. Oh, God. Lots of immigration jokes. Yeah. Which is what everybody loves. Oh, my God. Rebel Wilson loves a racist joke.

Yeah, you know, mainstream. I don't know if it's her in the movie doing it, but. I mean. Yeah, but it's like, no, it's not her. No, it is her. It doesn't matter. It's just, it's all racist. No.

Oh, John. John is going to, going gonna rile the base up i can't wait rebel wilson call us come on defend um oh my god you guys this has been a great episode thank you so much john early listen bell house june 24th and 25th it's true get those texts jackal novak ham opening oh my god um i love you guys thank you for having me thank you this is on we love you so much to see you in this natural la guys thank you for having me thank you this has been we love you so much to see you in this natural la light thank you you know now that i've been here i'm like it's okay literally let me curate your restaurant experience yeah then you're gonna be sold i can't

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