Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Who Is That Funny For" LIVE from Moontower Comedy Fest (w/ Chris Redd & guest host Joel Kim Booster)
Episode Date: June 26, 2019Bowen is joined by guest host Joel Kim Booster and guest Chris Redd live from the Moontower Comedy Fest in Austin. They discuss who it's funny for, the success of Joel's parents home censorship, Bowen...'s discovery of the problematic history of Kewpie dolls, and Adderall just being meth.MERCH! MERCH! GET YOUR LAS CULTURISTAS MERCH!https://www.teepublic.com/stores/las-culturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST. LAS CULTURISTAS IS PRODUCED BY EMMA FOLEY.http://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Wow, is that culture?
Yes.
Oh, my goodness.
Wow.
Las Culturistas.
Please welcome to the stage, Las Culturistas, Bowen Yang, and special guest host, Joel Kim Booster. Hi.
Hello, hello.
Oh my goodness.
Keep it going for Brian with that incredible...
Give it up for Brian.
Did you hear the little...
He gave it a little spice.
A little roll d'ar.
A little bit of a roll d'ar.
Well, first of all, we should say
ding dong.
Last call, Teresa's calling.
I know.
I'm a guest in your house and I
didn't even do it correctly up top.
I ruined it. I didn't give you the tour.
I didn't give you the tour of the house. That's true.
It's partially your fault. How are we doing, everybody?
Are we good? How's it going?
Oh my god. Bone and I truly, everybody? Are we good? How's it going? Oh, my God.
Bone and I truly, literally moments ago stepped out of the movie theater.
We just saw Avengers Endgame.
Avengers.
Wow.
I mean, I cried three times.
I cried several times.
Now, do you guys,
you guys don't care if we spoil the whole thing, right?
From top to bottom,
we're going to spoil the whole thing.
You see Chris Evans' full asshole.
Yeah.
You see everything.
So now you guys want to go.
Now you guys want to go.
And then you do see Thanos' taint.
And that's actually like a nice kind of like smash cut that they do.
Yeah, and it's sort of beautiful because Josh Brolin went in there.
And he did the whole green.
They put the little balls on his own taint.
On his taint.
You know, those little white balls where they motion capture.
And it's actually Josh Brolin's motion capture taint.
Yes.
On it.
And then, and this is a little Easter egg.
You know that little ridge on a scrotum?
The frenulum, I think it's called?
Is that, oh, there's a name for that?
I thought so.
For a while, I thought I was...
Any doctors, any experts know?
Any anatomy experts?
What is it called?
Oh, wait.
What is the frenulum, then?
Oh, that's right.
It's on my penis.
It's on your penis.
It's on my penis.
But I thought for the longest time
I was the only person in the world
who had...
A ridge? The line down the axis of your testicles. Got it. Do the longest time I was the only person in the world who had a ridge? The line
like down the axis of your testicles.
Got it. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Oh, like the seam. The seam. Thank you.
It's where God sewed your
sack.
He said, oh, we got one, we got
two, and then...
I thought it was scarring.
I thought I bled as it...
when I came out the womb or something.
And like a sneaky doctor sutured me back together,
sutured my ball sack back together.
And in a way, God is our doctor.
Yes.
Our first doctor.
And in a way, if you have a phallus,
if you have a scrotum,
that is God sewing it onto you, suturing it onto you. I don't know
where I'm going with this. I don't know either, Boehm, but
it's your show, and I thought I'd let you talk.
It's really,
it's so great to be back here.
I have to say, I know that, listen,
I know that about half of you don't
give a shit about the Marvel movies, but
I was truly moved. I thought it was incredible.
It is, I think on the
first time I ever appeared on this show,
I talked about how comic books were very formative for me growing up.
I owned thousands of them.
I spent my entire life reading them.
And this was the closest experience, I think,
to reading an actual comic book after years.
Because I'm like a real continuity nerd.
And the fact that they've been doing this for 10 years is insane.
And it's actually, actually now that I'm talking about it, I'm scared.
I am, because the
fact is, the only reason they were able
to do this is because Disney owns everything.
Yes,
someone just gasped.
And it's like, I'm so thankful that we have
these movies, and now I want Elizabeth Warren
to come in and break them up!
Break Disney up!
No monopolies! Free public college and break up the. Break Disney up. No monopolies.
Free public college and break up the
MCU. I'm going to fuck up
this statistic, but Google it. But like Disney
now owns like, what is it, like 70%
of the box office? It's something truly
insane. It's more than half the box office for sure.
And that's scary. I think that should be
scary to us as
a community of artists.
And I think, you know, no matter
as much as I'm so glad
that they could get Natalie Portman
in for a day shoot to reprise
her role in this film, it's like
it's not worth it, you know?
It's not worth where we're headed
I think it's bad, I think it's really bad
There was one little flourish of like
gay sort of
tittering of like,
oh my God, it's Natalie Portman.
And then it fully subsided within a second.
Didn't care.
Anytime she comes on screen, though, it is like a shot,
like an adrenaline shot.
I'm like, give her an Oscar!
I didn't see Jackie.
Now, did she deserve the Oscar?
She did deserve the Oscar for Jackie.
Justice for Jackie.
I am one of those people who is a Justice for Jackie truther.
I can't wait until we're like in our 90s and we get to see Chasen.
Who would play Chasen?
Well, we don't know who it's going to be yet.
No, I think it'll be like Lucas Hedges.
Oh, yeah. No, no, no. Because I found out Chasen well we don't know who it's gonna be i think i'm no i think it'll be like lucas hedges oh yeah no no no because i found out chasen is night 29 29 you were gonna say 92 92 29 and it
shows it shows i think he was much older no to me like his soul is zygotic it's like 12 if he's 12
years old inside listen i don't want to get too much into politics because that's not what this
is about,
but we cannot have a Disney gay in the White House.
We can't have it.
And I know that I'm speaking in Matt's house right now.
We can't have a Disney gay.
Like, pissing on his altar right now,
but it is just like, we can't have it.
We can't have someone who identifies
as a Hufflepuff in the White House.
That's it.
That's it. Just can't let that happen. Can't have a Charlotte in the White House. Can't have auff in the White House. That's it. That's it.
Just can't let that happen.
Can't have a Charlotte in the White House.
Can't have a Charlotte in the White House.
No.
It's the equivalent.
Wait, so what do you think of Austin, Bowen?
I love Austin.
Austin's great.
Someone's waving their hands.
Austin's wonderful.
Oh, I do want to talk about this man
who we saw yesterday at Rain on 4th.
Oh, my God.
Anybody heard of Rain on 4th in here?
It's a gay club.
It's wonderful.
Okay, you're feeling a lot more enthusiasm for it than I do.
It was lovely.
There was a stripping competition where anyone could sign up and strip,
but the hosts were a drag queen named Sable, who was wonderful,
and then the club promoter, I guess,
and he kept doing, he kept doing the hook'em horns,
like, kept doing this when he was bringing people up.
First of all, we should note,
just to paint the picture for you a little bit,
he had a face mic, like a Britney Spears face mic,
and everyone else was using hand mics,
and it was so strange.
I, like, the whole, whole, it like really posed a question
that was never answered,
which was why?
You know?
It wasn't holding anything else.
No, he wasn't.
There was truly,
he didn't need his hands free
except to do the horns.
Is this hook'em horns?
Is this hook'em horns?
Yeah.
Yeah, he kept doing this.
And it was unlike,
it was an archetype
I had never seen in a gay bar
hosting a show before.
It's something I think only could exist in Texas.
It was so strange.
It was so strange.
But shout out to Brad who won, who is a fan of this podcast.
Yeah, Brad won.
He deserved the win.
And then as soon, he came up to us before he went on and he was like, hey, I'm a big fan.
And then he went on and won.
And then we tried to say hi to him afterwards and he won and he ignored us.
Ignored us.
And we're like, oh, you win one amateur strip contest
and now you think you're bigger than us, Brad?
You're better than a podcast host?
How dare you?
Austin is great.
I love, this is the second time I've been to Austin,
but the first time I've been not during South By
and so therefore feel like this is the first time I've been to Austin, but the first time I've been not during South By, and so therefore feel like this is the first time I've been in Austin.
Because that is a Bobo sort of sideways reality Austin,
and I didn't appreciate it at all.
But you guys seem chill.
Yes.
What are the big differences that you're clocking?
Well, I would just say,
because the problem with South By as a comedian
is they plan
the comedy week the same week as the innovators which is like all the tech bros and like they're
just like constantly like trying to sell you on vr or give you like a little cube of gum that's
like this is five coffees and one piece of gum and it's like nobody asked you know like
what problem are you solving with this this This is not going to take off.
Like, it's just crazy.
Like, every street corner during that week
felt like a fucking mini shark tank
because everyone is just trying to sell you
on some new product that they've brought
to the fucking festival.
And it's so obnoxious.
The streets are closed down.
Everyone is like,
there's like new hats that are created every year
at the festival, I feel like, that then germinate across the country.
It's bad.
It's bad.
Everyone looks like a Heim sister.
It's not fun.
Wow.
Okay, yeah, that sounds miserable.
It is miserable.
But this has been great so far.
I did last night open for Nicole.
Right.
And there was a man.
I love that Nicole is now,
at least in this circle, a one name.
Just a one name.
You don't know which Nicole I was talking about.
I opened for Nicole Richie last night.
She's doing comedy now.
And there was a man in the front row
who may have been
gay, may have been attractive,
may have been British, and may have been into me.
And I said as much on my Instagram story,
and within three minutes he messaged and said that was me.
Yes, thank you.
Wait, what? What did they say?
No, they just said yes.
Oh, yes.
They literally involuntarily were like, yes!
And that's exactly how I felt.
And we DM'd the whole night
through. What's the plan?
The whole plan is a loose
hangout
Yeah it'll be loose
eventually
How dare you
in front of a live studio
audience
He's on a tour of the worst
places in Americaica now wait wait
wait not here that this was a detour because he wanted to see me and nicole perform
um he was in a place called beaumont before um i knew what i was doing the whole time
um but no yeah he's been traveling like Like the quote unquote, like he's like,
I love a sad strip mall or a casino.
And so he's been going to cities with that.
And I called him a cultural masochist.
And then he's now, this is where they're ending the trip.
Oh, that's nice.
This is a good special.
Yeah, with Austin and he likes it.
Right.
That worries me. That's a red flag. Yeah, with Austin. And he likes it. Right. That worries me.
That's a red flag that he's ironically going to these places.
Because it's like when you want to like,
it's like when you get your friends together,
you're like, let's go to Chili's.
Let's go to Applebee's.
Wouldn't that be so funny?
And it never, ever, ever, ever, ever is as funny as you think it is.
No, it never.
And actually, I am that person.
In fact, I feel like I forced you to go...
Wait, let's...
Every time we've seen a Star Wars movie,
I force you...
What's that restaurant that we...
Oh, Outback.
Outback Steakhouse.
I...
Do people know...
People who've been to Denver
know what Casa Bonita is?
Oh, yeah.
I told Joe to go to Casa Bonita
when he was in Denver
as a joke.
You motherfucker.
It's like a joke.
It's Mexican Disneyland.
That's what they call it.
And then you went and you hated it.
You didn't understand
what was worthwhile about suffering through it,
right? No, I didn't understand it at all.
And wait.
Oh!
Then we're not going to talk about it.
We're going to cut this out.
No, no, no. You can talk about it.
Hi!
Hi!
No, no, no you can talk you can talk about it hi no no no stop it
don't I
stop
I don't like the side of you
that you like the attention
yeah
well yeah
no no no
this is our house
we gotta
we'll move on
but I do want to talk
a little bit more
I want to talk a little bit more
about these restaurants
because wait
I do make you go to
Outback
and it's been awful
every single time
it's awful
I made a lot of people go to Outback. Outback. And it's been awful every single time.
I made a lot of people go to the Olive Garden in Times Square.
Always regret it. Never worthwhile.
I made Anna Dresden go with me to a Texas roadhouse in Baltimore that made me so sick.
I was sick for three months and lost seven pounds.
Yeah.
So, thank you.
That's your state. Your state. Seven pounds. Yeah. So thank you.
That's your state.
Your state.
I mean, it was a Texas Roadhouse in Baltimore,
and I did get fish.
So I feel like in many ways that is my own fault.
Sure.
Well, you lost seven pounds.
Okay, but yeah.
Well, that sounds crazy that you're going to all these places, but at least you're here.
I did want to, like, I didn't, like, send him any gross pictures.
No.
You know, and I was going to talk about how proud of myself for that.
Great.
And I was going to say a lot of other, like, wonderful things
about how your book sounded.
But now you don't get any of that.
Because you showed up.
But you get that in private.
Okay, what else?
We haven't seen each other in a while.
I know. Actually, that's false.
We saw each other last weekend. Yes, we did.
But a week apart from you is a long time.
I couldn't even get through the sentence convincingly.
But it feels like you
and I are the ones who pick up right where we leave off.
It's true. I saw him triumphantly
after, did you guys see the actress
on SNL, the digital show
with Emma Stone?
Of Bowen Yangerich. Talk about
that. Talk about Emma a little bit.
People want to know while it's fresh in your mind.
Emma's wonderful. We forgive her.
We forgive her.
We heard the apology at the Golden
Globes and we said yes.
We hear you and we accept.
This was the platform we needed
from you. Off camera
screaming on mic.
No she was
great. She was so so so wonderful the
entire time. Our guest worked with her as well.
He can tell us more about her later.
I think she's great.
There were multiple times.
She literally was like,
she came up to me and Julio,
who wrote it with me.
She goes, okay, so do you guys want me to cry in this?
We were like, oh yeah.
Like for this take, yeah, cry.
She goes, okay.
And then they're about to call action and
she goes sorry sorry I just need a couple minutes was so nice about it was not like
wait wait wait she was just like actually I need like one more second and she's just like pacing
and then she does the take it it's perfect and her eyes are welling up and she's fully giving
you that performance and then Meisner yeah Meisner, yeah. Meisner.
And then afterwards, she comes up to me, and I was like,
oh, I made some offhand remark about menthol sticks.
I was like, you don't need a menthol stick.
And she goes, my memories are my menthol stick.
Very, like, very jokingly.
Okay, thank God. So she wasn't being serious.
No, no, no.
If it's a self-aware joke, then that's funny.
She was very self-aware about it.
It's not that she's a monster.
No, no, no. But I was like, what have joke, then that's funny. She was very self-aware about it. It's not that she's a monster. No, no, no.
But I was like,
what have you been through?
That's wild.
She grew up in Arizona.
I feel like that's enough, you know?
It's the worst place in America.
Worst place in the world.
I will say,
in college,
they taught us,
in your freshman year of theater school,
where I went,
acting school,
you had to,
one of the things that you had to do
in order to move on was cry.
That's insane. But they,
the method that they taught us
is very actually like sort of
full, I think it's a way everybody
can do it. I'll teach you guys now how to
cry, which is they just teach
you to get here
and then you just pick a vowel
in a line and
ah!
It works! Yeah, everyone here and then you just pick a vowel in a line and ahhh it works yeah everyone
who's listening at home I absolutely
cried no it was the dumbest and most
humiliating experience everyone had
to do the Emily monologue from
Our Town at the end of
our second acting class and had to
cry in that monologue
and had to not only cry but they wanted
they didn't want you to because there were there there was always a girl whose memories are their
menthol sticks oh there's always a girl like that and god bless them we need them we need our emma
stones but they did they were like no no it's cheating we want to see the work of like truly
making yourself puke um to cry and like trick your body because
like our teachers were like this is the physical response that your body does when it cries and so
it's reverse engineering if you're if you're heaving like that and breathing then your body
will be like oh we should be crying and start crying and um it doesn't work it doesn't fully
doesn't work um but basically every time i was was, like, she did so, she did all these takes
and every time we would turn to each other and be like,
she's incredible. And
thought, not that I ever
disputed it before, but I was like, she absolutely
deserved that Oscar over Natalie
and Jackie. No.
Okay. No, I don't think so.
Actually, I would, I
think Emma is like Sandra Bullock,
someone who deserves the Oscar,
but not for the role.
She deserved it for the favorite.
Yeah, she deserved it for the favorite,
and we knew.
And Sandra deserved it for Gravity,
and we did not know.
And we did not know.
And in fact, the Academy always knows, okay?
So trust the Academy.
Yes, we were mad at Blindside,
but we didn't know, you know?
And they did, and that's what's important. Put your trust in the Academy. Yes, we were mad at Blindside, but we didn't know, you know? And they did.
And that's what's important. Put your trust in the Academy.
Yes.
The Academy. Unairing.
Unairing the Academy.
Ooh, baby.
Okay, what else? I think
it's time to bring in our guest. Do we have to?
I think we have to.
I'm kidding. I love him.
Wait, before we bring him on, I wanted to say
yesterday, because we're about just to get Wait, before we bring him on, I wanted to say yesterday, because
we're about just to get into it before we get into
his credits. Yes. I have to say this
man is such a fucking renaissance man
and is so good. It's actually
unfair that he's good at everything. I think of him
as a prolific stand-up
comedian. We recorded our
half hours together in the same chunk
in New Orleans. And so in
my mind, he's always been this stand-up.
And so yesterday we were chatting and I was like,
oh, do you know Bowen? Have you ever met Bowen?
And he was like, yeah, you fucking
idiot. We're co-workers. And I was like,
oh, that's right. You're also on the biggest
fucking show in
comedy right now. And he's also
been in a comedic
milestone of a movie
that has recently... Had a res has recently had a resurgence.
On Twitter, thank God for it.
That is Meet Joe Black,
of course, that we're talking about.
The scene where Brad Pickett said bye.
Chris Redd is in Meet Joe Black.
No, Popstar. He was in Popstar.
Like I said, he's on SNL. He recorded
Comedy Central Half Hour. I think, and this is sort of
the mythology of his career, by the way.
We'll ask him if this is true or not.
I believe he's the first person in history to ever put Saturday Night Live in second position,
which is industry speak for if you have two jobs, one of them is like the second choice.
And I believe that Chuck Lorre and this is all the mythology.
Come on.
All of it.
He can deny any of it.
It's Chuck Lorre and Chris Radford. Chuck Lorre and Lorne Michaels had the mythology. Come on. He could deny any of it. It's Chuck Lorre and Chris Radford.
Chuck Lorre and Lorne Michaels had a phone conversation
where they fought over him.
So two of the most powerful white men in the industry.
Yeah, because of Disjointed, his Netflix sitcom
that he's also a star of.
And somehow he's the nicest person I've ever met.
The nicest prince angel of a man.
In this industry.
He is a titan. He of a man. In this industry, he is a titan.
He is a king.
Please give it up for Chris Redd!
Fuck everybody in here.
Now, you can speak on the validity of any of those statements, or you can speak on
the validity
of any of those statements
or you can
choose to remain silent
and let the mythology
sort of germinate
and spread
and become even.
Trying to see
what's the most
powerful position
to take.
No, that was
a very stressful situation.
I didn't know about this.
It was some like some back and forth because i was on a show yes and uh and
but but lauren kept calling me he was like you want the job and i was like yeah he's like well
don't worry about the other thing i'm like what and when white men say that to you you're like oh
shit's about to happen. Shit happened.
I mean, those two men, though, are
two of the most powerful men in
the industry right now.
I fuck with Chuck Heavy, I fuck with Lorne.
I mean, it just ended up
working out, but I was stressed out for three weeks.
I want to write a play about that film
conversation. Yes.
Truly, it's going to be my Frost Nixon.
Oh my God, right. It's chuck lori and lauren michaels
fighting over chris red by the way that was the most accurate piece of information that someone
has said um that i didn't directly tell them I know it all, bitch.
Because your career, Chris, this is another industry, sort of insidery thing,
is you were announced as a cast member on SNL when you weren't a cast member.
The season before.
The season before, when Mikey moved up and Alex got alex and alex got hired and uh melissa got hired i there was a article from a
blogger who will remain nameless only because i don't want to give him no clout yeah no he a
bitch though uh he know it uh but he like released this so basically i was like leaving 30 rock onto
the plane go back to l.a to keep filming disjoining and while I'm
sitting on a plane next to Melissa
this dude puts out a blog
that says I got the job and
I've gotten jobs before that's not how
it works you don't find out on Facebook
when your friends are sharing you usually
get a call beforehand
and so I was like what
what is happening so I'm texting my people
and they're like no we haven't got a call.
So it's just like shit.
And all of Chicago comedy is going crazy.
Like Chicago in general, it's blowing up.
We're taking off.
I'm sitting next to Melissa.
She's not involved in this article.
It's only about me and Mikey Day.
And so I'm like, hey, how's your day going?
I'm trying not to say nothing to her and uh knowing that she's
seeing this and i'm just sitting there awkward as hell i'm like and then they didn't have any
internet uh on that flight i was losing my fucking mind bro and so then by the time i landed it had
went viral in our world and uh and i called my people and i was like yo what the fuck is going
on and they were like um oh I think it's just a mistake.
I think you still have a good shot.
But you know, Lauren's very touchy about shit like that.
And I don't know why it didn't happen the way it happened.
But it ended up that Melissa got the job.
I mean, y'all saw how it fucking played out.
But I didn't.
And so that was crazy.
Because I couldn't tell everybody, like, hey, y'all, I don't have it.
Because that's not how it works.
Because if you ever address it, then it hurts your chances of getting the show.
So you just got to leave it alone.
And so I'm just sitting there just watching people think I have this job.
And then the season started.
Like, what episode are you going to be on?
I'm like, I'm not, nigga.
You didn't see me in the opening credits, did you?
God.
That is a nightmare.
It was definitely.
Is this, was this, is SNL sort of, was that always the goal for you?
Was that like the job for you for a long time?
I think doing, I like sketch. So I like, doing sketches is, I like to live in color.
Like, SNL was dope, but it was also like, there was just more black people on other shows.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I did love Chris and Eddie in it.
So it wasn't something I thought I wanted, especially coming up with Chicago comedy.
And, like, Second City, they, like, shoved down your throat.
Like, if you don't go to SNL, you won't be shit.
And so I'm a rebel by nature, so I was like, fuck that.
But then when he offered the job,
I was like, yes, please.
When you get the call, you gotta answer.
I mean, even at the audition
walking through the halls, I'm like, I guess I would
kind of want this. This would be
dope. I'm not done with sketch,
so I would love to be here
and figure out what it is.
Right. At least figure out if I is. Right. You know, at least figure out
if I'm good at the show
because you gotta be,
you know how it is.
You gotta be like decent at it.
Right.
The thing about the building is
it is this thing
where you walk the hallways
and you look around
and there's photos of all this shit
and you're like,
oh, okay.
I guess this is an important place.
And this is not like,
this is not like commenting on
like for better or for worse what it is.
This is just what it is.
You're in that building and it's a constant reminder of what the show is to people.
It's amazing because you have your ups and downs.
And it does become just a workplace.
Just like any other place that anybody in here would work at.
But then every week I have a moment where i'm like oh nigga where are you this is
fucking dope you know i mean like so as long as i'm still feeling that i think i'll be good
i have never had an interest in sketch i took two ucb sketch classes one of which where i wrote a
sketch where a man fucks a bird um and that's the only sketch I've ever written and have no
ability to do like sketch acting
either like but when I was visiting you
at work when I was there to see the show
just like even I was like
oh my god like it is like such
a weird like it's a tangible energy
in the air of your like this is
there's so much history like comedy
history attached to this place
that it's intoxicating.
Oh!
Oh, intoxicating.
Joel, you wrote a sketch once
and I think it was
you and Aaron Jackson
just writing it
within 20 minutes.
It was a gay PSA
about things that
straight people
can't say anymore.
Yeah.
But no,
but it was just like
it was a full-on joke.
It was just like
straight people
can't eat grapes anymore.
It's a very
can't eat grapes.
Oh, I've been fucking up, bro.
We knew we were successful.
I love grapes.
Well, can I, I'm going to just,
I'm going to fully drag her
because what either of us have to lose.
But this was supposed to be a funnier die sketch
with Lena Dunham in which she canceled three times.
Oh no.
And she somehow had the flu every time.
But the weird thing with her is I kind of believe
that she could have gotten the flu three times in one year.
Like that just seems like something
that is possible for her life.
But then we were like, it was like sort of like,
we couldn't do push the shoot again,
or we were there, everyone was there.
The crew was there.
And so they were like,
do you want to just shoot something else?
And it was me and Aaron.
We were like, yeah, I guess we will.
And so we just sort of wrote with
Lang and Kingsley and improvised slash improvised this thing about like uh gay appropriation like
appropriating gay culture and we knew we were successful because if you go and look at the
YouTube comments for it it has pissed off literally everyone on the left and everyone on the right no
one knows who it's supposed to be making fun of um it is 100 percent nonsense and it truly i watched
it sometimes and i'm like what is the pov here um but the pov is unity man it's like just like uh
and like there are weird jokes in it that truly looking back i was like are we high because
aaron's maybe like a full foot taller than me yeah but I said, I was like, on the day of shooting,
it's just us standing in front of a green screen.
And I was like, I should stand in an Apple box
so that it looks like I'm the same height as Aaron.
And they were like, sure.
And they're like, who's that funny for?
And I was like, people who know that Aaron's taller than me.
Who's that funny for is the best question
I've ever heard in my life. Like, who is that funny for is the best question I've ever heard in my life.
Who is that funny for?
If I get heckled,
I want that to be my heckle
of a new joke. I'm like, I'm trying a new joke.
Like, hey, who's that funny for?
You're like, you're right,
sir. You're damn right.
Yeah.
That's fucking great.
What a beautiful philosophical guide. i know you've been asked
this before but when what started for a stand-up or sketch for you uh i started at the same time
i got i was better at improv and sketch first because stand-up is harder for what i was trying
to do with it that's right you suck on suck on that. Yeah, we come from...
Chicago's such a like,
you either do improv or you do
stand-up, but you don't do both, brother.
Especially in the South Side.
And people were told me not to
do that. And they said like,
oh, you're fucking yourself up.
And then when I started getting jobs,
they were like, hey, what class did you take?
Some are pioneers. that story is about.
You really bridged the gap.
You are sort of the baby that was birthed out of both communities and were held up.
And they were like, we are joined now.
Yeah, they kept picking me up.
I was grown at the time.
I don't know why they kept doing that.
Don't grow, man.
Don't Simba a grown man.
That's stupid. Don't Simba a grown man. That's stupid.
Don't Simba me, man.
I feel like people should just do one.
No, I'm kidding.
You know what?
Hot takes.
There are only, I can say with confidence,
there are only 10 people in my mind,
Chris being chief among them,
who I think of as being truly great.
Full triple threat sketch improv.
Thank you for that.
I mean, I'm always constantly thinking something slack
and always trying to make sure I'm keeping up with all of it.
And I also do think that if you're going to do them all,
you have to go hard at it. And you have to be, if you're going to do them all, you have to go hard
at it. And you have to be, if you're not
tired, you're slacking somewhere.
Because you're holding up three
careers at one time. You know, like, God, the gig
economy, am I right?
The millennial
condition. I'm so
tired. Somebody do
my laundry.
That is,
I still think about
that fucking article
in BuzzFeed.
Yo, I think about
that article so much.
You know what I'm talking about?
Yeah, where they were like,
this is why,
you're not lazy,
you have a condition.
Yes, you've been,
you've inherited a trauma
from the last generation
that promised you
a false thing.
Yeah, and now,
and now every time
you want to do your dishes,
you're like,
but what about earth dying? Yeah, Yeah, and now every time you want to do your dishes, you're like, but what about Earth dying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then you just don't do your dishes.
But the Earth's still dying, though, bro.
What are we to do? That article ended on, there is no answer.
Yeah, I've never seen a more grim article than like,
yeah, all this shit, and also nothing you can do to fix it. I'm like seen a more grim article than like, yeah, all this shit and also
nothing you can do to fix it.
I'm like, alright, thanks, man.
Who wrote that article?
This like sociologist?
For BuzzFeed? Yeah.
A BuzzFeed sociologist?
They probably keep him in a basement.
Like, go ahead, Eric. It's your time.
Unchain her.
Let her speak. I have have thoughts eric the female
sociologist let her do it yeah don't make assumptions um gender is a construct um i
no i don't know but then the thing is also like oh but as long as you have an awareness of the
parameters then that helps but i don't think that true. I don't know if that's true. Because now I'm just lazier.
Yeah, I feel like you gave me a reason
to give myself a reason
not to do the dishes scientifically.
Yeah.
So now I'm just like, dog,
my crib looks crazy.
You know what I'm saying?
That's why it's insane to me
that people in our generation
are having kids, though.
Yeah.
Like, there's like half of us us can't do the fucking dishes,
and the other half are like, yeah, let's make another one.
And it's just crazy to me.
I'm so glad that I have no inkling to have children.
I also feel very nihilistic about the future of this planet,
and I want to die by 60.
Like, I'm so mad that I quit smoking.
I really am.
Because, listen, smoking is the coolest thing you can do.
It is.
It looks so cool.
It doesn't smell as cool as it looks, though.
It looks so cool.
I would give up two pinkies to be able to smoke again
and not have it, like, truly, like, make me feel awful on the inside out.
And I would.
I would.
I would look like a freak to be able to smoke
because I think smoking would even it out. Like, I'd be a would. I would go. I would be I would look like a freak to not to be able to smoke because I think smoking
would even it out.
Yeah, I wouldn't have pinkies
but I have a cigarette in my hand.
I wouldn't give up my pinkies. I couldn't give up
my pinkies, bro.
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I can't smoke because I'm scarred from my uncle.
He passed when I was young.
He was my favorite uncle.
But then he got throat cancer, right?
And he had that little thing in his neck.
But he was a hood dude, so he used to fuck with us all the time.
He was like, you should never smoke.
You know why?
And then shit would spill out of his neck.
No!
Yeah, and then he would smoke out of the hole.
Like, you want to be me?
And I'm like, ah!
And again, he looked so cool doing it.
He looked cool as shit, man.
He had gold rims on his wheelchair.
It was crazy.
Listen, I want you to live.
I also feel like I'm with Matt.
Like, you should stop smoking, Bowen.
Oh, you still smoke?
Maybe don't.
He's an every now and againer.
I can't take that leap.
Otherwise, I would go full tilt.
I was just a pack a day for a couple years.
A pack a day.
I got some friends who are like,
they're like, I'm going to quit after this pack.
You've been saying that for 13 years.
Just let them do it.
There's nothing to live for.
I don't smoke shame, anybody.
I just don't do it myself.
I mean, I smoke weed for sure.
And some of it looks like cigarettes
because the packaging is getting crazy
for real like someone was like
oh can I get a square I'm like no this is
this is a funny square fam
I call it funny
funny like an old person
is that a funny cigarette
funny cigarette
give me a light
I love that your eyes
lit up around the packaging of weed
i love the weed technology where it's at now i i really do like i like the edibles the edibles
are amazing i had a fruit butter foot that was so fucking crazy yeah it was so i got too high
just because of how delicious it was and i'm like you, you got to eat the whole foot, my guy. Wow. And then I couldn't sit down
the whole plane ride.
I was tripping my ass up.
Those, yeah,
I've had the,
I usually will do one of those.
I call it
Molly in a pinch.
Like if you can't get your hand,
if you can't get your hand on Molly,
just take a really powerful edible
and an Adderall.
And it's the same thing.
It really is. It's the same thing without the comedown um it's amazing you're right yo i
tried to take it i tried to take an adderall when i was high uh because i was on a flight i was like
i'm gonna get some work done yeah but i had decided to get some work done after i was already high as
fuck and so i was like take some adderall you'll. You'll be good. You'll be focused. And what it ended up making me do is focus on how high I was.
And I was like, yo, you are so high right now.
And that's all I did the whole flight.
It was four hours of just standing there.
Not even, standing on a plane.
And there was, I had a seat.
I was just standing.
It was so dumb.
Adderall is, you guys, Adderall is the same molecule as meth,
but meth has one extra methyl group.
Yeah, one extra thing is like a big thing.
Because it makes it more lipid soluble,
so it crosses the blood-brain barrier easily.
But you being stoned and then taking Adderall
is like you basically being on meth
while you're stoned.
I don't know.
And?
It sounds amazing.
Meth is so dumb. Here's what you need to do. I've never done meth. I don't know. And? It sounds amazing. First of all, meth is so dope.
Here's what you need to do.
I've never done meth.
I don't.
It's not a black drug.
It's just not.
I don't know any black meth heads.
Maybe I don't know enough black people,
but I don't know enough.
Yeah, we didn't have that shit.
We need better representation around meth heads.
Where's representation in the meth head community?
Huh? Where are my Jamals? If you want, where's representation in the meth head community huh
where are my Jamals
if you want
I
here's
here's a little bit of advice
if you want a fun weekend
okay
oh here we go
hook up with a guy on Friday
steal some Adderall
from his medicine cabinet
um
and then
on a Saturday
take it
and then watch a YouTube video
that says
I am the mother of
James Woods' secret children.
And now you have a mystery to solve.
James Woods has a secret.
According to this YouTube video,
I watched while I was an Adderall while I was avoiding doing work.
Cause you take an Adderall to do work and then it,
it helps you focus on one thing that is not the work.
And I have,
I have organized my iTunes library so many times.
Yeah.
In a way.
You can't venture off and do other things once you take it
because then you'll just focus on those other things.
You've got to go right to...
That's why, man, I remember I took it one time to do some work
and I ended up just masturbating for a long time.
I was just really focused.
And that's the Lee part of that Molly thing.
It's the we and that part.
So it's like you're sort of like happy and horny.
And that's what we all want.
That's what Molly is.
Oh, you're right.
Are we figuring out the world right now?
Yeah, I think so.
I've taken Adderall on a Tuesday for writing night. Yeah, yeah.
And it fucked me. It did not help.
Because I think instead what I did was I just arranged
the dolls that I have in my
office. You have a lot of dolls.
I thought you were doing magic. I thought you were
I literally thought it was doing witchcraft
at one point. I was like, yo, who
in the office is that doll?
No, I'm just kidding.
Real peek behind the curtain. What kind of dolls are these?
They're little Kewpie dolls.
I have this obsession with Kewpie dolls
and I wanted to get one tattooed here.
I wanted to get a Kewpie
doll tattooed here, but then
I put this out on InstaStories.
I was like, I'm thinking about getting this tattoo. What do you guys
think? And people,
my inbox flooded with people saying
in hanky coat days, if you had a Kewpie people saying in hanky coat days
if you had a Kewpie doll
on your hanky or anywhere on your
body it meant that you were into underage
what
why did we need a code
for that I know
who is that for who is that funny
for
who is that funny for
at what club are you going to
where you're like,
you know who I am?
Like, what?
That's so nasty.
So now I got to get rid of these dolls.
It seems like...
Or you pick up a few more...
Oh my God.
They let some kid in the bar last night
do the strip contest
and we were so uncomfortable. I would punch that child. They let some kid in the bar last night do the strip contest and we were so uncomfortable.
I would punch that child.
They were like,
he's under 21,
so you can't tip him in shots.
And we were like,
then I don't want him in here at all.
What is this?
It should be illegal.
This is resurgence in young people shit.
That's not how you say that.
Yeah, you sounded older than when you said
funny cigarette.
What's the deal with all these young people
being young?
I don't know why I'm talking like my uncle
right now, bro.
Not the smoker.
I have a huge family. Over
500 family members. I only know about
200 of them. Only?
What?
We're from the south, Mississippi, so you know the story. over 500 family members. I only know about 200 of them. Only 200? What?
Yeah, we're from the south, Mississippi,
so you know the story.
Boats, you know, slavery, shit like that.
I hadn't heard that.
Yeah, we're just one of those families. We just have a huge family.
So I have a lot of uncles.
How do you know that it's 500, though?
It's just Facebook, really.
I'm the only one in my family who's ever uh done this like who's ever been on tv who's ever done movies and shit so then they come out
of the woodwork but they know but the story is this is like uh they we're we're very family
oriented so like uh i always knew we were big like we had a huge family but all the the last names and all the neighborhoods we take up just in Mississippi alone is crazy.
I'm like, oh, yeah.
So she's like, yeah, it might be 500 of us at least.
I'm like, at least?
That's too many.
Some of these niggas don't count, dog.
I'm going to be honest with you.
Some of them hit me up like, hey, cuz.
Like, nah.
500's a good number to pluck.
I mean, if I'm talking, I'm saying this is like your aunt's smart to like nah 500 is a good number to pluck i mean if i'm talking i'm saying this is
like your aunt's smart to pull like pull out 500 as a number not saying that she's making this up
but it's like yeah 500 is like a solid believable number yeah because if i research it i'm an insane
person you know what i'm saying like oh 500 we'll see you know i don't have the time i mean that's
your pilot babe write the script yo
500
going out
to look for all of your
you remember when Facebook
first came out
and you would just
search your last name
and friend all the people
who had your last name
I couldn't
I couldn't use Facebook
is that not a relatable
why
I couldn't use Facebook
when I first
because I didn't finish college
and when Facebook
first came out
it was like only college kids
simpler times
better times one might say.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
All I was doing was-
Only people who went in $100,000 in loan debt should be able to use Facebook.
It was cleaner.
It was easier.
I snuck in.
I had my ways.
I still went to college.
I just didn't finish.
I was taking two classes and selling weed to make my money back. I thinkuck in. I had my ways. I still went to college. I just didn't finish. I was like, I was taking like two classes
and selling weed
to make my money back.
I,
I think about this.
I,
this is such a dumb,
stupid,
patrician thing to say,
but I think about this all the time.
I should have just dropped out.
I did not use like my degree at all.
I mean,
you just explained how Adderall is meth
and I feel like that.
Sure.
Yeah,
you're already a scientist.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
Honestly, bro, you already got it figured. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Honestly, bro.
It's a little bit.
You already got it figured out.
I mean, I—
Where did you go, and what were you studying that you dropped out?
I went to College of DuPage.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and I love psychology, so I wanted to major in psychology and minor in English
because I just like writing.
I created writing classes uh but then i i was rapping at the
time and i just liked the hustle more than i liked sitting in a classroom and i wasn't using it in
the way that like can you give us a little snippet of what you would have been like as a therapist
oh is it there yeah i'm okay okay i think since people i think people thought you were gonna do
rapper no i don't give a shit about that.
You can find it on YouTube.
Go on SoundCloud if you want that shit.
It's SNL.
You came here for true inside,
once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, okay?
This is watching me do improv with Chris.
Okay.
Come on in.
Door's open.
Yeah, this is Dr. Red.
I'm going to be the intake person over here.
I'm sorry. He is so late. He is so late. Red. I'm going to be the intake person over here. I'm sorry.
He is so late.
I'm new. I'm excited.
This is sliding scale, right?
Oh.
We're doing sliding scale now.
Okay.
Here's all my income.
How much do I have to pay?
Because it's very expensive.
I'm going to go to the back. I'm going to crunch the numbers.
You and Dr. Red talk. But what if you come back and it's more than have to pay? Because it's very expensive. I'm going to go to the back. I'm going to crunch the numbers. You and Dr. Red talk, okay?
But what if you come back and it's more than I can pay?
I wish I had more walls in this office.
I'm going to listen, and then I'm going to evaluate
and assign a quantitative money value
to how much this should cost
based on what your problems are
and how much Dr. Red can help you.
I like that.
So you're going to listen in on my session?
Yes, yes.
But it's, I mean,
it's full patient confidentiality.
I don't, I don't follow.
You don't tell nobody
outside of our group chat.
There you go.
Okay.
Okay, I'll be over there.
Bye.
Hey, so what brings you in
besides problems?
Just the problems.
Was I supposed to have something?
I didn't know
I was supposed to come
I thought I was just going to come
and sort of talk about
how I can't do my dishes
and you were going to help
tell me more about that
well I just feel like
the world is about to end
so what's the point
I think you got it all figured out
and seen
right across the stage
sweet batter
and you see
this is why
we should only do one thing.
Yeah.
I thought y'all were great.
Oh my god.
There's nothing worse than
giving improv
notes. Because it's
like, I've only had to like
coach people a few times,
a handful of times, but every time I'm just like,
yeah, I don't know, you made that up on the spot and like, it can only be so good.
Yeah. I mean, it's that, and also it's just repetition, like doing it more. Some, sometimes
people make a decision just because they're new and new people make that decision. And sometimes
I want to just give notes like, Hey man, man, what do you think of that decision?
I think you should just do it until you stop being dumb on stage.
Being dumb wrong.
Being dumb on stage is super fun.
It's great.
But sometimes it's just like you're going to make these broad decisions and these weird decisions because all new people do the same shit.
Until you find yourself.
So just keep fucking doing it.
You just need to fail enough times to know that.
I failed my whole life, you know what I'm saying?
I want to hear more about that,
and I want to hear more about how you went from
rapping to SNL,
but I think, should we ask the question?
This is the question.
We're going to go way back.
We're going to go way before College of DuPage.
Way, well, maybe not way before.
I don't actually know how old you are.
So we can't play.
75.
75.
Hand me a funny cigarette.
I'll tell you all about it.
Back in the time of funny cigarettes, Chris, we asked all of our guests, what is the culture
that made you say culture is for me?
Did not go over this with you before the show.
And I'm sorry.
It's all good.
This is like a piece of pop culture, basically, that like formed you maybe as a kid growing up.
Or even later on, like told you about something else that you could explore.
A touchstone.
Something that formed me.
Yeah, something that like you look at your creative output now or your personality or your life.
And you sort of go back and say, oh, right.
Baywatch Nights is where it all began, you know? Oh, man. now or your personality or your life and you sort of go back and say oh right baywatch nights is
where it all began you know oh man i would think i mean hip-hop was hip-hop is like a part of me
yeah and uh and i was i mean rock him the 18th letter he he uh is the first real album
first explicit album i bought uh and I don't know if enough people
know who Rock came in.
But look him up. He's one of the best
of all time.
He had this group with Eric B.
But he really praised writing
and studying a lot. And I loved
to read and
study culture and figure out how to
have it. And I
love to just write lyrics all the time.
That's just kind of like what I did growing up
when I wasn't running the streets trying to be down.
I was like reading books and like just trying to write rhymes
and just write the most clever shit.
And I think that that's what really like affected me the most.
Doesn't gravity suck?
I hate it when it just shows up, you know what I'm saying?
That's incredible.
How old were you when you got that album? Man, I was 10 years. when it just shows up. You know what I'm saying? That's incredible. So,
how old were you
when you got that album?
Man,
I was 10 years,
I was 11 years old
when I got,
when I got Rock Kim.
And I was already,
I was already like starting
to try to write raps
and they were really,
you know,
they were a kid like,
I was writing about
Barney and shit.
I hated Barney.
I hated Barney growing up.
Like I watched it,
but I hate watched it. That was like the first thing I hate watched. I get it. Because he told Barney growing up. Like, I watched it, but I hate watched it.
That was, like,
the first thing I hate watched.
Yeah, I get that.
Because he told me to clean up.
I'm like, hey, my nigga,
you don't live with me, you know?
So I used to write battle raps
to Barney, bro.
Wait, are you being serious?
I'm being dead serious.
Like, I used to just write
these raps, like,
about, like, different cartoons
and, like, characters
that I didn't like. And they would rap back at you? You would write their raps about different cartoons and characters I didn't like.
And they would rap back at you?
You would write their raps back?
No, no.
This is all in my...
I was in my room.
No one was rapping back.
Were you writing from their perspective afterwards?
Oh, no, no.
I didn't give them no time.
You know what I'm saying?
I think in my mind, I was like, I'm going to write these raps.
And when I see Barney on these streets, I don't know what street.
He's going to hear my bars. Be like, I got't know what street. He's going to hear my bars.
Be like, I got bars for that ass
and he going to hear them.
But yeah, I think my first actual album
was Will Smith.
It was, yeah,
because it was the only album I could buy,
I could get at the time
because my parents were really religious
and they didn't like the rap shit at all.
But Will Smith, they love Will Smith.
So they're like, oh, you can get with Will Smith.
Get jiggy with it.
That was the first rap song I learned.
And then, I'm not proud of that.
But I love Will Smith, though.
Will Smith is great.
It's a decent rap song.
I mean, if you're putting it up against stuff. No, but like Divorced From Context, it's a good rap song. It's not. I mean, if you're putting it up against stuff.
No,
but like
Divorced from Context,
it's a good rap song.
Yeah,
a lot of things
are good
Divorced from Context,
Bowen.
I think Will Smith
is sort of
another example of
you should only
do one thing.
You know?
I don't know, man.
Parents just
don't understand, bro.
He had some good ones, man.
Did they listen?
Did your parents listen to everything?
Or were they like kind of keeping an eye on stuff you were consuming,
like on the TV movies and stuff like that?
No, me and my parents didn't see eye to eye at all growing up.
Like we got tight when I got older.
No, I mean, did they like, were they like making,
did they have like strict
control over everything you consume?
Oh, um,
like, no, they were like very
like, this is what it is. Like, but
no, they didn't follow up because I
snuck a bunch of shit in the house all the time
and I was listening, I was finding my way
to listen to shit. But, uh, they,
if they had found it, they would throw it away.
But they're not like checking my bag for shit. Like, it's, they ain't had the time. They throw it away but they're not like checking my bag for shit
like it's they ain't had the time they both
work so they're not they weren't like
doing any of that shit
but you but Joel also had very religious
parents yeah my parents found time they both worked
they found time
they would read every book
every comic book they would they had every
channel locked on the television and they would have to
manually unlock it for us because mostly because i would like they locked it started because they
locked like mtv obviously and stuff like that but then they my dad was really mad because they had
to lock tnt because i was watching charmed in the afternoon and so they were really pissed off about
that um i remember i used to there was an era when Anaconda was being advertised in comic books.
I was so mad because my dad would rip out the Anaconda advertisements out of the comic book because J-Lo was exposing too much skin.
And so I had like, I was always, there's like a million comic books I'm just missing one page from.
Because of J-Lo's tit.
And that's upsetting.
They wouldn't let me get the Backstreet Boys CD
because they sat me down.
I was nine years old and they were like,
that song, no matter who you are,
what you've done, where you've been,
as long as you love me,
they're like, Joel, it does matter
what a woman has done.
They didn't like the Backstreet Boys philosophy.
Yeah, exactly.
That's okay.
Exactly.
And I was like, I'm nine, you know.
They're covering too much ground, this Backstreet Boys. Exactly. And I was like, I'm nine, you know. They're covering too much ground.
They were.
Yeah.
I was very lucky to have parents that didn't know how to work the TV as well as I did.
Or the computer.
So they couldn't, they wouldn't even know how to search.
I could hide it from them.
I was always really into that, like figuring out everything.
Did you also think you were the first kid to learn how to hide your search engine history
and stuff like that? Oh, definitely. I was definitely...
I mean, but they... My dad hyped me up all the time.
Like, I would, like, unplug the computer and plug
it back in. He's like, oh, shit, you should be an engineer.
Goddamn,
Marco, come in here. Do it again.
I'm like,
all right, pops.
My dad was a real
Luddite, too, but my mom was, like, she was so fucking smart on all that shit.
Like she took back,
she got rid of all the remotes in our house
because we were,
I learned to do the last channel thing.
Like you hear your remotes coming
and you press last.
Everybody was saying that.
You hit last and then it goes back
to the clean channel.
Oh, I did that so much.
So they took all the remotes
and then they
actually at one point made me sit far enough away from the tv because i used to keep one toe
on the channel up or down and so i would do the same thing and then they caught wise to that
and so i had to like literally they had a little piece of tape on the floor and i had to sit behind
it um oh my and then my mom started noticing she would start I started having to do dummy
covering my tracks online
because I would erase the internet explorer history
and then my mom would be like
where did the history go Joel
and you would repopulate it manually
so I would have to sit there
and then she got to the point where she was like
how did you visit all these websites in only 10 minutes
and I was like are you monk
that is crazy
it was nuts at one point they took away my door in only 10 minutes. And I was like, are you monk? Like, what is going on? That is crazy.
It was nuts.
At one point, they took away my door.
This was when I was like 15, 16.
They took away my door to my bedroom.
And then I moved into my closet.
And then they took the closet doors.
And then I propped my bed up so high and put sheets in front of it.
And then they gave it all back
because they're like, this is ridiculous.
This has escalated so far.
I got a question.
Where do they keep the doors?
In our basement.
Just in our basement.
My dad would walk it
down to the basement.
That's Freaky Friday plot
and Harry Potter plot.
I had only seen that happen
with one of my best friends.
His name is Chris,
we call him Tut.
But, like, I was there when, because I was kicked out the house at the time,
and I was living with him and his family.
And I remember the night we came in too late.
His mom was mad strict.
And she was like, just for that, you don't get no damn door.
And she took it off, but then, like, she didn't really know how to take the door off
all the way,
so I had to Google
how to take a door off,
and I'm, like,
instructing her
while apologizing
to my friend
at the same time.
I'm sorry, dog.
Turn to the right,
Mrs. Tut.
I'm so sorry, my nigga.
That's great.
It was the wildest shit.
I haven't thought about that
in a long time.
When did you move out?
I got kicked out a bunch for just like,
just all throughout high school.
But I moved out.
I was like gone, gone, like 17.
Then I came back again at like 21
because I was like,
I'll try to rekindle some shit with my folks.
Also, I was broke.
And then... It's weird how those always sort of coincide. one because I was like I'll try to rekindle some shit with my folks also I was broke and then
it's weird how those always
go inside I mean it was just timing
then I left
again and then
the longest I lived with them
outside of being like a kid
was when I was coming
back to actually when I started Second City
I was like well can I stay here
and I'll take classes and I'll just stay here.
And we really did. My mom had
lost her job
on some bogus shit.
So she was going through some things and we
found a great relationship there.
Then it was like
23 when that happened.
And so between like 23 and 26
we got really tight, me and my
family.
That's good. And are they still religious? Is that still something? And so between like 23 and 26, like we got really tight, me and my family. So, yeah.
That's good.
That's good.
And are they still religious?
Is that still something?
Yeah, but they a little looser with it now.
Like my dad was an usher of a church when I was growing up.
You know, I don't know if you know what the ushers are, but they're basically an R&B group that doesn't sing.
And they just greet you.
And then they're the ones who pass the they have the flyers yeah they pass collection play like well i got it oh yeah yeah but now they're just like you know so
like they still go to church and and all that but just not as they loosely go they don't go every
week what do you think changed for you when like what do you think was able to like rekindle that like what what well I think my mom's had just had more patience and and
and because my parents came from the south and they they only know how to get they only know
how to get out of that situation by going through school and and taking these certain steps so that's
all they saw so growing up it was hard to tell them I'm sure y'all know that too but that's like
it's it's hard to tell them or have them see what chasing a dream is.
And that's all I've done is want to be a rapper, want to be a comedian.
I remember when I first wanted to do comedy, I was like, I'm going to do comedy.
My mom was like, God damn it, another fucking dream?
Jesus Christ.
How much do you sleep?
But then she saw comedy working.
And it also didn't have me in the streets anymore.
Because when I was rapping, I wanted to, like, build my rap stories.
I'd be out in those streets all the time getting into all type of shit that they also didn't agree with, you know?
But with comedy, it was like, oh, you around a bunch of nerds all day.
That's dope.
But then they really saw, like, it working in a way.
I started making money.
Then they were like, oh, fuck.
You can, oh, this is a thing.
Dope.
And then now they're like huge fans.
If I, when she hears it, she's like,
why you gotta keep telling people I was like that?
I'm different now.
But we just grew together.
And I got more in control of my anger issues too.
So that helped me have patience.
So we both.
Your mom's going to listen to this? Probably. So she's's gonna hear me say the phrase josh brolin's taint yeah yeah man she's
she's heard me say a lot of shit bro she'll she'll she'll be all right she'll be like oh lord
wow nah she would love this conversation but it's so cool that you're it's so cool that you're doing
both basically and that your big movie break, at least, in Popstar,
was that you were this rapper and that you were...
Man, that was like a...
I almost cried that day.
Because we did real concert scenes.
We had thousands of people in these arenas
and we were doing these concerts.
And of course, they were scripted,
but it was still like he had people going crazy and at one moment uh we had filmed uh me and Andy
performing and then people going nuts and then we they said cut and I was like I know this is fake
but it feels amazing it just felt so good though was that your first like movie first everything
yeah that was my first major movie role ever.
And I thought it was going to be like Lil Rel's Get Out moment.
I was like, oh shit, I'm about to what?
I remember when they called me.
This is how much I didn't know about the industry.
They called me that Saturday, the weekend it came out.
They were like, yo, it only made $1 million.
I was like, holy shit, for real?
Because I've never made $1 million of anything ever.
So I'm like, yeah.
They're like, nah, Chris, that is not good.
And I was like, I did.
And then we just saw the slow rollout.
And I was just, it was like, all right,
well, I guess I'll just keep hustling, you know?
And so that resurgence that you had mentioned
was like crazy.
Crazy.
I just woke up and I saw a pop star training.
I'm like, this can't.
Nah.
Not my pop star.
Yeah.
And then I saw like, oh shit.
Okay.
That's what cult classic means.
It means like that over time.
That shit takes a long time.
Right.
That was like five years ago, I think.
But what was it?
I still don't get to, did anyone get to the bottom of why it was trending that day?
Was it an anniversary thing?
It was a, no, it was like this,
the anniversary was like three weeks prior,
but there was this dude who just released a video,
I think it was like part of the DVD package,
but it was like a,
it's a song that got cut from the movie,
and it's a full performance, full like,
and the song was like,
tell your parents, fuck off. And it's a full performance full like the song was like uh tell your parents fuck off
and it's so funny it's so brilliant brilliantly written like every song on that fucking um
soundtrack is but it was such a funny such a funny uh thing i i i didn't know why that
particular performance got cut because it was it was it was crazy to me because it was so it was
so funny so to do just post this random guy josh Morgan, I think, because I saw his name a thousand times.
But this dude Josh posted like, yo, I'll never understand why this movie didn't do as well as it should have in X, Y, and Z.
And the Lonely Island have been busy this year and last year putting out different work.
So I guess between just Little Long Island being
more present and that thing just being
funny as hell it started getting shared
and then by noon that day
it was like trending
but then there was this collective thing of like
oh yeah like we saw that because
I literally went with fucking Sudi
Sudi, me and Matt
Rogers smoked
a bowl. You've heard of him, right? You've heard of him.
Smoked a bowl and went to go see Popstar.
And it was so goddamn funny.
You were so funny in it.
Oh, thank you.
Chris was so funny in it.
That was such a fun show.
Such a fun movie to do.
You know what I think part of it is, though?
Is I think that, I think it's two things.
I think, A, like, people are smarter about comedy.
Like, it's caught like people's
sort of consciousness of what comedy can be and is and what can what they consider good is caught up
with the movie and i also think like there's this thing like your gen our generation of people who
were in college when it came out or younger when it came out i think like for a while i think we've
just aged into people taking our taste seriously sure yeah because they think like people are like
oh that's a movie for college kids or a movie for high schoolers or whatever and then they those
people become adults and sometimes those movies hold up for them i will also say now you're the
tastemaker this is a huge part of it of why it didn't do well and the in the uh in in the theaters
was because when that movie drops people viscercerally hated Justin Bieber so fucking much.
And they thought it was a thing
about Justin Bieber.
And he had just dropped
like three fucking biographies.
How many times
can you tell us about you?
But like,
and I have no feeling
towards Justin at all,
but it did have a lot to do with it
because everybody thought
it was like that.
Like, fuck that Justin Bieber movie. Like, it's not even about that that's so interesting now we're so
removed from it no one even like compares the right right and they're like oh yeah oh it was
just funny we talked about that in the other two room i think because i think that was the worry
for the other two as well was that people were going to think it was just going to be a show
about justin bieber and we were and we talked a little bit about, like, how that happened to Popstar, too.
And I think, like, that is exactly correct.
Because this is, like, pre-Christianity Justin Bieber, too.
So, like, height.
Height of everyone hating him.
And that's crazy how successful Justin Bieber is
and should be,
but how he can ruin projects around him.
Insane.
That have nothing to do with him at all.
The only, like, thing you could connect to
Justin Bieber was like pop star colon
never stop stopping and people were like oh that's a
never say never reference and they just freaked out.
I do think Joel is probably on to
something though with like people aging up.
It's like that thing where fashion trends
cycle every 30 years
when kids like in high school
start to like wear the things that they wore
in high school when they grow up because
now they have enough money to be in like the creative class.
Something like that. Anyway.
Okay. Less cogent
than your meth is Adderall.
Sorry.
Make everything edutainment.
I still think you were scientist
though. Thanks Chris. Okay.
I think it's time oh my god
I feel like we have so much more to talk about
we have so much more to talk about
we have to
we're gonna do some
I don't think so honeys with Chris
oh yeah okay
I'm ready for this
there we go
so I don't think so honeys are a segment
we would take one minute to
rant on something in pop culture
that's getting our girl
or it can just be anything
that's going on in our lives
tomorrow night
at Palme d'Or on 6th
at 8pm
we're doing a
40 comedian
I don't think so honey
local comedians
Houston comedians
40 people
so we hope to see you there
thank you so much for coming
are we supposed to be
looking at
no no
we'll time you
yeah I'm getting
my timer out
so Bowen can do it
do you need to go first
I have two that I could
probably do
no yeah I could
I could go first
we've got random
about something
from pop culture it can be about anything you need to go first? I have two that I could probably do. No, yeah, I could go first. You got random about something from pop culture?
It can be about anything. You'll see.
You'll see.
Just to give you an example, I have done
Birds That Have Appeared
and Blue Planet 2.
Ariana Grande.
Not by choice.
I had to do it.
And what are some of the other...
Cum That's In My Asshole... Cum that's in my asshole.
Famously not a part of pop culture, but a little bit my ass is culture.
Your ass is culture.
So it's just like anything from
think TV, movies, music,
dance, something that's more...
Can it be something that's just like in my everyday
life? Yeah, it can. I think
they've moved on to that.
We've moved on. I don't know how I'd think about yeah, it can. I think they've moved on to that, being that. I mean, if you ask me... We've moved on.
A couple years ago. I don't know how I'd think about it,
but, um...
Yeah, but Bowen and I will do it, and I think you'll
see. You'll get the job.
Okay, Bowen Yang, your I Don't Think
So Honey. Time starts now.
I Don't Think So Honey Alamo Draft House.
Yes!
Why are you
ducking down and rushing
across the fucking theater? You're only
calling attention to yourself. I would not
have noticed you had you just walked like a normal
fucking person with an aligned spine,
motherfucker. And the
queso is actually better in Austin than it is in
Brooklyn, and that's a flaw in the
franchising. Make it like
Cheesecake Factory. Make it the same everywhere
across the fucking world.
I do love your pre-show, pre-trailer content.
That's fun.
That's great.
And if anyone works at Alamo,
I really love Alamo Draft House.
But the little,
the service motif of scurrying across the fucking theater,
you're only drawing more attention to yourself.
Like I said, Alamo Drafthouse,
just chill out.
Just make it chill, okay?
Because right now I'm walking in
and I'm about to see Avengers
and you're making the whole experience
even more jittery for me
and I don't like that.
I don't think so any Alamo Drafthouse.
And that's one minute.
Give it up for Rowan.
Thank you.
I do have to say,
the one thing about Alamo's menu
is I ordered a salad
along with a lot of other shit,
so please don't.
But like,
it is not a good food
to eat during a movie
with no table really
in front of you.
And then I started eating it
right as they were like,
don't make any noise.
And I was like,
it's a salad.
It's a salad.
You need to look at a salad
when you're eating it and you can't just
like, I had like leaves
all over me. A salad at
Alamo Drafthouse, this is a rule of culture.
Rule of culture number 95.
Thank you. A salad
at Alamo Drafthouse is
a diner lobster. It is just something you're not meant to order. If you. A salad at Alamo Drafthouse is a diner lobster. It is just
something you're not
meant to order. If you go into a draft
house, you've agreed walking
through the door, no vegetables.
I just feel like
that's... I'm gonna... Bowen had the best
order, I think. I had a very stoner
order. Bowen got a
giant milkshake, queso,
and a pizza.
Damn.
And I was so,
I was like,
I watched you order all that
and I was like,
Bowen is going to fart
so much.
Not once.
During Endgame.
And not a peep.
Not a peep
out of your butthole.
It was crazy.
I was going to ask you,
when you shit,
did you lift up?
You know what I'm saying?
I lifted up.
That feels like a lot of ammunition.
I actually haven't shot yet since I don't know. I don't think you will up you know cause that feels like a lot of ammunition I actually haven't
shot yet
since
I don't think you will
I know
I don't think you will
ever again
after that meal
it's gonna just be
a big bezoar
that's gonna come out
of my asshole later
okay
this is Joel Kim Boosters
I don't think so honey
I think do we have
we have something
yeah
I'm a little nervous
about this one
but okay
we'll see
this is Joel Kim Boosters
I don't think so honey his time starts. I don't think so, honey.
His time starts now.
I don't think so, honey.
The comedy on Game of Thrones, okay?
Listen, Game of Thrones,
you need to understand what we come to your show for,
and that is dragons named Drogon,
not comedy beats featuring breast milk, okay?
Like, I don't need it.
I do not understand why a character needs to button a scene
by saying, I guess I will have that drink, like understand why a character needs to button a scene by saying,
I guess I will have that drink.
Like, it's an episode of Seinfeld, you know?
No, worse yet, it's not even that good.
It's like fucking Frasier, which actually is a very good show.
I take that back as well.
It is like Big Bang Theory.
Oh, I'm so sorry.
It's Chuck Lorre.
I love him as well.
But this is the thing.
They've gotten so brazen in these later seasons with these comedy beats.
They're sneaking them in, and I get it.
People are like, but we need levity.
We need levity.
Bitch, you got four episodes left to wrap this shit up.
I do not have the time to watch a comedy beat, okay?
I want to see battles.
I want to see people dying.
I want to see tearful goodbyes.
I want to see incest on me, okay?
Give it to me.
I don't think so, honey.
Comedy on Game of Thrones.
And that's one minute.
That's how I felt about... You are so right. Yes. You are so right.
So right. That's how I felt about Avengers, too.
And this, I was like...
Chris Hemsworth is given a
primarily comedic role in this
movie, and it is tough.
It's tough. Not everyone is Robert Downey
Jr. Not everyone can deliver a punchline.
Yeah, the thing is about halfway
through the movie I was like, maybe Chris Hemsworth
is a comedian.
And then about two-thirds of the way through
I was like, he's not a comedian.
Mileage may vary. It really
does sort of like, you're like, I've had enough.
You can't do everything. You can't do
sketch, improv, stand-up
and Marvel.
If you are that guy, you don't get to. You can't do sketch, improv, stand-up, and Marvel. If you are that guy.
You don't get to look like that and do
all the things. Right. What's that?
Yeah. Donald Glover
is the exception, and he's sort
of in Spider-Man, but that's it.
Yeah. That's it. Okay. Alright.
Chris. Okay. This is Chris Reds.
I don't think so, honey. Are you ready?
And his time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Are you ready? Yeah. And his time starts now.
I don't think so, honey.
What's the deal with all these fucking walking commercials outside in Austin, Texas?
These people who are just like spam walking up to you.
I don't like being walked up to and saying to.
Do-do.
Do-do.
Do-do.
Do-do.
Do-do.
Do-do.
Do you have time for your environment?
Do you have time for classes, sir?
You are off note.
Your voice sucks.
What?
Focus up.
My head hurts, nigga. Stop talking to me. Your voice sucks. What? Focus up. My head hurts.
Nigga, stop talking to me.
I'm just trying to welcome my friends.
Also, what is the deal with this confederacy argument on Twitter?
Why are people acting like they can't read history books?
30 seconds.
I know.
That's a little dark.
I should have started with that first and then went to the guys over there.
What's the deal with me wanting to talk about really important things only so much time?
That's what I usually do at parties.
So I can plan my exit.
As soon as I walk in, I'm like, I'm going to get to that nacho dip.
Now I'm out this bitch.
You know what I'm saying?
And what's the deal with motherfuckers talking so close in the morning?
I hate when people are talking to me on an airplane.
They're like, yo, what you here for?
Nigga, flight.
That's what we're all here for.
Five seconds.
It's an A to B.
It's a transaction, sir.
Why you ask me dumbass questions?
It's 730.
I'm super high. And I can't sit B. It's a transaction, sir. Why you ask me dumbass questions? It's 7.30. I'm super high,
and I can't sit down. And that's
one minute.
He's super high, and he can't sit down.
A legendary three
topic. I don't think so. I think we've only
Luke did two. I think he was the first to
do two. Luke and y'all did two.
You fit in three. Well, I had
to, because that Confederacy thing wasn't
I didn't have enough time to give y'all enough context. It might have been four. Well, I had to, because that Confederacy thing wasn't... I didn't have enough time
to give y'all enough context.
It might have been four.
First, it was people...
The walking commercial.
They're very annoying out there.
Y'all know what I'm talking about.
I haven't run into one yet.
They're in these green or orange shirts,
and they walk up to you like,
you have...
One guy was like,
hey, you know my friend Dan?
I'm like, no, nigga.
And then he's like, he's right here on this clipboard.
I'm like, what the fuck kind of hook is that?
Who does that work on?
That's such a gross.
I really wanted us all to gaslight Chris
and be like, no, what are you talking about, Chris?
That's not a thing that happens in this city.
Oh, then I would walk us all outside
like a science project
where you have the fun teachers
like, come on outside, y'all.
And we would all circle around this person.
I haven't seen these people.
I feel like you guys are all gaslighting me into thinking that they exist.
We did that.
We did talking about the Confederacy argument on Twitter.
I think it's just because Trump just dug into the Charlottesville stuff.
Yeah, he just kind of, and then people were just,
I was,
I went on a wormhole today.
So that was my fault.
And there you go.
Oh,
and then Close Talker.
So it was three,
but it was a beautiful,
graceful three-part.
Yeah,
it really was like,
they were all full thoughts.
Full thoughts.
One more time for Chris.
I have a lot of complaints,
y'all.
Wow.
Chris,
thanks so much for joining us.
It was so much fun.
I mean,
you'll see him every week on SNL.
Three more shows,
y'all, this season. And thank you so much for. I mean, you'll see him every week on SNL. Three more shows, y'all,
this season.
And thank you so much
for coming to our show,
our recording.
Please come tomorrow night
at 8 p.m.
at Palm Door on 6.
Thank you.
And give it up one more time
for Joel Kim Booster,
my guest host.
Joel Kim Booster!
Give it up for Bowie Yang,
y'all.
Oh my God.
Stop, stop, stop.
Good night.
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