Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - “Wordsmith” (w/ Candiace Dillard Bassett)

Episode Date: March 25, 2026

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Ding, dong. Las Culturistas calling. So here's the deal. We're speaking to you the day after the Academy Awards. And so it's now a world where we can say Academy Award winner Michael B. Jordan. We can say Academy Award winner Amy Madigan. We can say all these things. All these things.

But there's highs. And all I can think. about today is the fact that there's an award winner with us, a record of the year winner for the last culture. The inaugural record of the year winner. That part. It's which you, I'm sorry,

I have to call you out because. Lotatory. Lawtory. Call you out. Call you in. Positive. Positive.

Positively. You had to, as if she needed a reminder, you were like, we do this thing called the culture awards if you like, you know, want to be a part of that. And I was like, Matt,

you're talking to a culture award winner, a record of the year winner. I know. We're starting to, tease this year's cultural awards, maybe our guest will appear. Perhaps a traitorous return. Perchance. For chance to dream.

Suffice it to say that this has been a moment highly anticipated. We've been so thrilled with the sort of resurgence of our guests on our screens because the screens have lacked without our guests. And we'll get into this, but like she never went away. Meanwhile, this, so this woman was giving birth. Heard of it. Heard of it. raising a child. And lest we forget, while she was promoting deep space,

she was getting her fucking MBA. Yeah. Like she, like this, this woman doesn't pause. You know what I mean? Revenue streams. Learn from the guest. Learn from the guest. I mean, if only you knew.

I mean, if only you knew. If only you at home, you know. And after this episode, you will know. So you may know our guest from, again, An iconic turn on the traders. Prior to that, Real House Rise of Potomac, a storied legacy on that show. And a fabulous singer, we were streaming Deep Space, you should be to, the new single, if only.

And again, it needs to be said and stated and remembered that Drive Back is the song. When I heard it, I was like, wait, it hit on something deep in why I love music. We were watching the music video from the trailers on the Fire Eye. movie. Yes, we were doing. It was a part of our... It was part of the lore and the culture there. It was a set song. Okay. Yes. We're so honored to be here. This has always been a Basset Hound podcast. Yes. Everyone, please welcome. Candace Tillard Bassett.

Oh my gosh, you guys. Look at these Versace. Well, you know, Versace. They've been through some things. I think I spilled like something on them. But you know what though? It gives them a match. We're still here. Yes. They have a story. They have a story. We're so happy. You got plopsing.

Like I just, you all are so famous. You're famous bitches. What does that even mean to you? I can't. I just can't. I'm like, I'm in awe. First of all,

I've never been so excited to go into the watch what happens live Clubhouse than when we were on together. I know. We really had a time. And from there, I got to see you perform my favorite music. At the 930 Club.

Yes, in D.C. Yes. The only time I got starstruck and nervous and I messed up my words. No, did you mess up? First ballad in the show. Have you heard of Christmas? I sang the second verse as the first verse.

And I was like, only I'm going to know, but damn it. We did not know. No, I had such a time. Like, yes, yes. And like, y'all are famous. No, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, the wicked of it all. Stop.

The wicked of it all. Yeah, Lincoln, you'll frigging miss me in both of those films. You are there. If we have to pause to look at you and all of your glory, we would do that. No. know if we've told this story on the podcast yet, but we went to Japan. And we were at, we, we had this amazing experience of a geisha dinner in Kyoto. So it was like these three geishas who were, they live the life.

They love the life. They're completely off the grid. They take their phones away for like the entire seven years that they trained to be geishas. Like they don't have really much interfacing with the quote unquote like outside world. They're like, they're like jediies. They're monks. It's like a monastery. Yes.

But basically, yeah, she. One of them was like, I know you. and ran and got the little wicked book and had him sign it. And then before we left, she goes, this is my treasure. Fame! Listen, that's famous.

You know what though? Like, I feel like you experienced this too because the thing about Housewives and then Bravo at large is A-listers come up to you and completely gag. It's so strange. Yeah. It's like, why are you watching this foolishness?

But they are like, it's my escape. It's how I unwind. which I love. I love that Housewives is this thing that, like, people go to to, like, forget their troubles. Well, because I, even right now, I must say being in the same space as you is really powerful. And I'm super. Oh, no, she knows this. I, so I have, my thing with, is with Housewives.

Yes. I really, I've seen every single famous person in the world come through the halls of 30 Rock. Yes. This is extremely different for me. That is wild. This is like I'm like, I'm blushing. I'm nervous. You are a little blushing.

I see it. Don't you, I call it like, because Chris blushes and I'm like, you're turning white people red. White people red. This is yellow people red.

You're turning white people red. before they're supposed to write memoirs and flipping tables and cussing. And I'm like, we're not doing anything, but just stirring up dust. But I think like, okay, we were saying before the mics went on and we will go on record to say this,

like since your departure from the show, this, you know, Potomac, it's like, I have a hard time watching it because I am not finding a foothold sort of morally, narratively, like, because I've always held the same side, as you in terms of the people that we, let's just say we dislike. Oh, who are they?

I've got, I've got a little too hard in the page for, against certain people. And it's, and it's, they give reasons, though. They give, you know. They give, you know. Yes, don't, just don't get fined for liking the wrong tweet. Find. Find. Find. No, no, so I don't get fined.

Yeah. We're not, no, no, we're not finding. No, no litigiousness. No, please don't, yes. You know, you, you, you leave those, those people. who shall not be named where they belong. Exactly.

On the curb. But then tell me this in a post reunion of Traders world where Rina is doing front-facing videos in the car being like, it's so nice that we've all come full circle that we're all friends now. Is this mostly true?

For me on my former cast? Not of Potomac, but of Traders. Traders is, that's a good vibe. Yes. Oh my God. The best vibe. Like when I was leaving, I was like, I love you guys. And even like immediately after like when we all got home, we were all on the phone like, we weren't supposed to be talking.

We were on the phone like, so what happened? And like when did and how? And oh my God. And who's a traitor? We were doing. And they were all like apologizing to me, which, you know, saying sorry they didn't like pick up my crumbs. I see. So it just made me feel like, okay, I'm not a blubbering idiot.

I'm not like crazy for writing down Rob's name. No, no, no. People were just like, we should have listened to you and blah, blah, blah. And it just made me feel better about the way that things ended. Yeah. No, I'm, I still talk to Tara. I talk to Johnny. I talked to Mark.

I love you and Tara being besties. That's my castle bestie. We saw her. So we were in Milan doing some Olympic stuff and we saw them together. Just the sweetest. Oh my God. Tara and her. Tara and her kids.

Like it was just very sweet to see. Yeah. Like them together because it's like a real genuine friendship between Tara and Johnny. Yes. And then her just being like a mom running around with her kid and then like seeing her like dressed to the nines that night. Yeah. Like doing it all. It was it's amazing.

Like even in the castle they, I don't know who they thought they were fooling. Like. So you were not fooled. No. No, you know. Yes. I mean, I knew before. But like I didn't say anything.

But it was weird that they were kind of not who they. Because they're always holding hands. And I'm like. Why aren't they holding hand? Yeah. And then of course I realized later, okay, they're trying to like play a different game. But like I say all the time, I love their love.

Like that is such a, it's such a beautiful friendship. Well, it's also that thing of like when two people don't want you to know something about their relationship, they are moving in a way where it's like, okay, why are you guys ignoring each other? Like, it's like when people don't want you to think they're a couple. Yes. And you just have to at some point be like,

are you guys fucking because? What is this? What is this? Well, you haven't looked at her. Yes. Yeah, it was weird. Like, y'all, we know. Most of us knew. I knew.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, is it confounding? Because I feel like what is happening now with a lot of traitors' discourses, a lot of the cast has to come out and be like, guys, it's a game. Yeah. Everybody needs to chill out. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And you know what's crazy to me is I know the housewives fandom. I know that we are, you know, we get a little rowdy. It's thick. Yes. Yeah. But the gamers, those people, they need a box of crime. Yeah.

They just, why are you crying? They were just really emotional. Like just. I don't think they're expecting the dimension that you guys bring to it. Uh-huh. I think because they are so cold about the game. Yes. Once they're reminded like that there is an option for this to have an emotional angle.

Yes. They're like totally caught off guard. You know who I saw struggling with that? Natalie Anderson. Yeah. Who I stand from Survivor. And then all of a sudden there she is surrounded by all. this emotion and it was just like, yeah, this is a different way to, like, play a game like this.

There's more than a way to skin a cat. Like, you, you can't just, like, think that you all are like the end-all be-all of gameplay because we are good at this game. We being housewives, we're good at this game and we do it with like a console, a full beach and a heel and our edges laid. Okay? You're sweating. I'm not.

Like, there's a difference. Well, like, you said that it took some convincing for, was it NBC or Sterey Lamber to be like, you would be great at this, but you're like, I'm running around outside. There's flies, there's bugs. I'm not like, what was, like, what took you over the, what brought you over? My, so I'm still really close to my NBC executives,

and they were like, we just think this would be great for you, and it's just a great opportunity, and you'd be great at it. And I'm like, why? Why would I be good at this? Because they wanted you to be a traitor the whole time, I bet. They were like, oh. I never asked. I wanted to be a traitor because it's like, okay,

I'm going to play the game, like, sign me up for the game. Yeah, right. The game is called the traitors, so I want to be a traitor. But I was just like, I don't know why you want me to see me run up a hill with a bale of hay or like slosh around in water. See, that is a thing where you say it like that and we do want to see it. Yeah, no, but I didn't. You want me to submerge my koochee in this murky water. I'm not doing that.

So it wasn't registering. But I was like, you know what? This is a challenge. Like I can do something hard. Yes. It's pageant brain maybe. Yes. It is a little bit of pageant brain.

It's like, okay, this is a challenging moment. Let me, like, train a little bit, aka, like, watch the show and, like, take notes and learn, like, the, you know, the rigors of the game. Yes. And then, you know, go in there and get on stage and do a wee turn. Yes.

Just a little bit of this, a little bit of that. Yeah, you know, more action. It's also type A person, which I'm assuming you are. It's kind of like, they give you a challenge. And even if on face value, you're like, no, it will sit there. Yes. And it will be like, Now I'm living in a world where I'm not doing this thing.

Yes, right. The voice says, but what is? Right. Get up, bitch. If only. Yes. Only. Yes.

So then you're saying that like when they're texting you like why we should have followed the crumbs that you left, like you're saying, oh, I'm not. Thankfully I'm understood. Was there an internal thought where you were like, oh, did I make a mistake? Did it like? Because I want to say you played it really. the entire time. Like Matt and I are watching this being like,

she is, she's like up there with the Survivor gamers. I wouldn't have known. I wouldn't have known. I feel like you were playing it as yourself. People were like, oh, the thing about, because here's the thing is like,

I knew from watching you for years and knowing you that like, I was like, anyone who knows Candace knows that traitor or faithful, she would have come in here saying the things. Yes. And so you have to be.

Right. You couldn't have done what Eric did. Yes. Which is sink in the back because everyone's going to be like, why is Candace sinking in the back? Right. She's a trainer. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. No, I didn't go and look with a strategy. I went in like, okay, let me assess the room, see who's here, and then like figure it out as I go. And it worked until it didn't. But no, and to answer your question, I felt good about my choices. And I felt like in the moment I made the right decisions for this situation.

Yeah. But I felt like when I, when I found out that Rob 1, I was like, so wait, did, was I not clear? You guys didn't pick it up. I mean, these were like huge crumb. I let whole Oreos, like not even crumbs. Loaves of bread. I left disc golf.

Like, hey, discoph cookies. You wanted to Delta 1. You said, can I take all of these? Can I just have a handful? I'm just going to crumble these up and leave them. Y'all, y'all don't like cookies? I really was like, I was like, the thing about Candace is she's, if she goes, she's not going to go quietly.

No. And you didn't. Thank you. But that is the power of, let's just say it, a tall man with eyes that look like that and that floppy little hair. I really think they were dignitized. They were. I mean, it was a really brilliant social experiment.

Yes. And I think that it did a great job of holding a mirror up to society. Yes. Agree. This is life. This is how it is in real life. The mirror is ugly and shattered and fucked up. A little bit.

It's a bad mirror. not a good mirror. Society tends to get dignitized. It's actually rule of culture number 20. Society tends to get dignitized. And now that's in the rules forever. We've seen it before. I'm screaming. What is saying

axioms and truths? But that moment, that moment between you and Rob of, that, that seems so cinematic. I'm not saying it was produced or anything, but I'm saying like that was It didn't feel like that. In the moment, it did not feel. significant in that way. No.

I was literally just like, okay, I know, you know, I'm about to be packing my things. You thought so. I knew. I knew it was happening. Blood was in the water. Night.

And I said, okay, so as I'm packing my things, as being my bags, I'm clearing this desk and that one. I'm taking this plant with me. To quote the ancient African proverb from our uncle, our uncle Denzel,

I'm leaving here with something. Yes. Okay. And something is my dignity and my pride. Okay. So I'm clearing this desk and you're going to hear from me. Yeah.

It was really just like, Like, I'm going to make sure you know that you will be shaking in your boots all the way to the end if I have something to say. And, but I didn't register that it was going to become this like huge moment. Focal point in the season. Yeah. So in the turret, your last turret with you and Rob, because you've been saying in interviews that like it was the choice between murdering Colton or recruiting Kristen. Yes. And you were just convinced even in that last tour that you weren't going to make it to recruitment.

Is that, is that, is that, is that what you're saying? No, I, so I, it was just like, okay, I can either recruit or get rid of Colton. Yeah. Either one would be good for me. I, it didn't matter. Like, I really, but what I said was my regret was that I didn't push harder to recruit Kristen. Uh-huh. Because I, when he said, no, I was like, okay, fine, let's just do Colton.

And I do wish that I had, like, pushed, but my, my worry was we would be at a stalemate. And then neither would happen. And we would just leave the turret with no murder and no recruitment. And then it's like, okay, now we're in limbo and we got to keep the train moving. It's so hard. Yeah. Like I watch it and I'm like, again, you see, like, for example, Mora at the very end. Oh.

Seeing how gagged she was, how hard she cracked in that moment. It's insane. I was like, that is truly. And then I felt bad because she was really internalizing like, I'm a dummy. Like, I'm a fool. And I was like, no, I really think it's exactly what you said. It is truly mice in a little maze. It says something about the human brain that I think we haven't seen a reality show say in a long time.

And that's why it's so interesting for people. And I love Mora, but Mora, I wanted her to wear a thinking cap. Yeah. She had a lot of beautiful head. We just need to find a designer one. Yes. I think we need to find one. We just need a designer thinking cap for more.

I said a million times. The faithfuls needed to go to faithful school. Yes. They didn't pass a single class. No. They need to go to summer school. Would you do an All-Stars or another like competitive reality show? If Traders does a, an All-Stars and they don't call me, I'm writing.

This is what I know. I would only do. I don't, I don't see another show like this that I would do. Like I'm not doing the challenge. I don't want to do House of Villains. No. I don't want to run anywhere else. I would run in Scotland because I've done it already

And it's like I know the terrain I know the terrain Yes But like I don't don't ask me to sweat no more No Yeah that is tough Because it's not just sweating I think the thing that would bump me

And they approached us for the show They did Yes they did What do we do? I feel like we can't go on together It's gonna be Tara It's a Tara and Johnny It's a Tara and Johnny situation

Because we cannot go on together it's a matter of doing it or and or doing it together. I don't think, I think at this point we're like, we'll do it. I don't think we can do it together because they're going to knock us out. No, not necessarily. Like you, well, you guys probably can't play that we don't know each other game. So you lean into it. Yeah, exactly.

They don't know. Like, there's no way they're going to think you're both traitors, you're both. Like, they don't know. Like, the combinations are too like up in the air. Right, right, right. Okay, here's what I think, though. And tell me if this is possible to happen. Okay.

Because I do think it, the worst thing that could ever happen is you go in with like a relationship that you have and they make one of you a traitor and one of you isn't. And then you're like, fuck, I'm now burdened with this because I have this person sitting here who knows me really well. Right. Not just like we've met, I've seen them around, you know, we were on a say the same series or whatever. It really knows you. Yes. Do you think it would be possible for you as the trader to go to that person? Or is this against the rules?

And be like, I'm a traitor. If you just maintain this rule is that I'm a faithful and I'll recruit you later. Is that against the rules? That is against the rules. Okay. Then. But it's not to say that it can't happen. I thought the only rule was traders can't out other.

A trader can't be like, I'm a traitor and Rob is also a traitor. You can't do that either. Right. I thought that was the only rule. No. You can't. Like if you're a traitor and you're a faithful. you can't like, do telepathy and be like, I'm a traitor.

Yeah, so you'd have to go right away then if I was a traitor. What you could do is you find a way to recruit him later. So you just have to play the long game. And you all are actors. You could do it. And it would be fucking hilarious. You would know right away if I was a traitor. It would be so bad.

Okay. But that's good TV. So you find, you go, you skulk off to the billiard room, the two of you and you give. You like do like one eyelash and then you giggle and then you go back to the kitchen. Got it got it. And you think maybe there was some eyelash winking and giggling happening in the mansion. She's indicating.

She's indicating. I cannot say. The pearls are clutch. What I will say is that I know what I was told. Yeah. And I was told that somebody was told. Wait. That's it.

I was told that somebody was told. somebody was told is great. Yes, I was so, there were many phone calls when we left the castle. Holton was one. He called me. Okay. And he literally, he was like, among other things, he was like, yeah, Rob told me you were a trade. Oh.

So, I mean, what do you, what do you want me to think? Yeah, I mean, you can, once you're, once you're explicitly given information, you then can't be mad that the person has said I was given this information. Right. Now, was it told, I was, I was under the impression that it was, like, said within the confines of the game. because you can say like, I feel like Bowen is a traitor because he was like scratching weird

or he sneezed funny or you give a reason so I was waiting all season to be like well where's the evidence and there was never a moment so I was like okay this is weird and I'm being like dragged and hung from crosses and wearing scarlet A's

and teeth on my chest because you are accusing I'm literally just like processing information I was given

but crucify me you know and you are one of the great verbal processors I do my best I do my best really really are

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Yeah. So there is movement. Okay. Yes. It's not, not happening. There, yes. This is so exciting. And then did you, so, and I'm sure you've talked about this before.

Are they prefolded? Where do those, where are those coming from? Technique. I fold them. Yeah. They're not pre-folded. Beforehand or as the tears are coming. Um, as they're coming.

I'm like, I'm swift. I'm quick with it. You're doing side work. Yes. Yes. I'm at work. I'm doing side work. Yes.

Yeah. Now there are situations, like right now in my purse, there is one folded. Like you'll find them everywhere. Well, because I save them. Because it is a lot of work. And sometimes I just, you want to have one ready. So I probably have one in like every pocket.

Like I was doing laundry and, you know, when you like put tissue in the laundry and it gets everywhere. It's like, oh shit, a triangle was in there. A triangle. Yeah. Casualty of the laundry. Is this, is prepping them beforehand like mom brain?

Now is this a new thing ever since the baby? No. Mom brain would dictate that I wouldn't be doing shit because I forgot. My brain is very ghetto. Did that have? happened? Like, once mom brain sets in, like, how did you change? Oh, my God. Well, I'm always sweating.

Oh, I'm hot. Yeah. It's like, is this postpartum? Is this paramedopause? Is this like, is the devil trying to smite me? Like, what's going on? Um, my edges fell out. So I was fine. And then all of this, I woke up one morning and just like, bald right on my sideburns. They were just gone. I was like, this is, who is writing this book? This is terrible. No. Um, um, Who's writing this bus? It's not good. I think your feet will grow.

Oh, really? I think I'm in denial because I will still, I'm going to shove my foot into my YSL. I don't give a damn. Yeah, you're getting in there. My heel will be hanging off the edge. I think my feet grew a little bit because my shoes are a little more snug,

some of them. What else? You can pee is not the same. You can't hold it the same way. Oh, sure. You got to go right away. And you have a beautiful baby. And I have a beautiful boy.

Yes, the best most perfect boy. He does everything. He's so cute. He's so cute. But then you went on this like postpartum, which I didn't realize where this, this like wonderful, necessary thing for new mothers where you're like, yes, go and like. The retreat. Convales. Yes.

Yeah. Sanu is the name of the retreat. It's in Tyson's corner of Virginia. They are like when I started hearing about these retreats. years prior. And they were only like in New York and L.A. And I was like,

well, how do I? Can I like close up my Kuchi and like run to New York? After I give the birth to the baby? Like, how do I do this? And then they, Sanu opened one in Tysons and we partnered

and I was, we were there for like four days. They give you massages. I had like, like, engorged breasts. And they have this, this Chinese medicine doctor that came and like gave me all these herbs.

she literally like massage, she spent an hour on each breast. Wow. Just massaging the milk out because it was stuck and it wasn't coming out. And that's, you can get mastitis, which is an infection and you can die for my. Postpartum is get out. I feel like no one really understands or because when you're growing up, especially as a boy growing up. Yeah. It's just like, oh, woman gets pregnant and has a baby.

And can you believe how easy it is? And then you become an adult and you realize what you have to go through. through and you documented so much of it on the show too just in terms of getting pregnant. Yes. And that adds another layer. Like when you are dealing with fertility issues or like me, you want to like provide insurance for yourself by freezing eggs or embryos. Yeah.

That's another layer that you're adding on top of that because now there's this physical part where you're having to like give yourself shots of hormones. You have reactions to the hormones. You have emotional, physical, spiritual, all these reactions to this medication. And then when after I got pregnant, I had to do 10 weeks of something called progesterone and oil just to like tell my body that I'm pregnant so that the baby would stay. Wow. So for 10 weeks, I had to give myself these shots every day at the same time. I traveled my whole pregnancy.

So at least four times I had to give myself these shots on an airplane. And one time I took a video of me going in the bathroom and it was like turbulent. So we're like, we're like bankhead bouncing while I'm trying to squeeze. my ass and stick this needle in. It was like, what is going on? Yeah. The trials and tribulations. Yes. And like the women that do this because they have no other choice.

Yeah. Because you want a baby, you want a family this bad. I'm like, we are literal superheroes. We are wizards of industry. 100%. I also think that's one of the things about housewives that I think is one of the most important is the way that so many more people understand. stand IVF now.

I wasn't seeing any conversations about IVF about the terrain emotionally of preparing to get pregnant having a baby. In all of that, I think that because of the Housewives franchise a whole couple

generations understands this and mostly gay men that can now relate to their female friends in a way that they could not before because of the Housewives. Yes. And I think there was like an element of shame because it's like it's created for women that

cannot have children on their own. That was the intent. And there's shame attached to that. It's like, I'm a woman. My body was made for me to be able to give birth. That's the thought. And especially coming from the South, it's like we are baby making machines. Like that's the thought. So when you can't do this thing that is supposed to be

natural to you, it's like what's wrong with me. Right. And even if you tell yourself that's not a rational thought, you still have it. Like society says like, you're a woman. You've got to be able. What are you good for if you can't have a baby? That's what the world tells you.

And women who don't want to have kids, it's like, why don't you want to have kids? And it's like, because fuck you. It's my uterus. I want it to stay empty. Like that's also a choice. And there's just, there's so many stigmas. We live in a patriarchal society and everybody gives a fuck about what the men say, not the women. And so it's just there, there are so many narratives that me talking.

talking about it and everybody else who's had the chance to discuss it, it just brings it all to the kitchen table. And I love that my story is like perpetuating all these different narratives that can be discussed and make it, make it sexy. It's like this. I always say you have to make things sexy for them to then become like a part of the conversation. Yeah. And we're now talking about it. Yeah. So you made it sexy.

It's sexy. Needles are sexy guys. Also I think it's like just hearing someone else say out loud these things. now people are like, oh, now I at least know how to even say that out loud. Yes. You know, I could watch someone go through something and be like, well, if I couldn't think of a way to verbalize that, I now have an option. Yep. Because like people don't.

So many people are not externalizers like the three of us here. You know what I mean? Yes. And that was. We're gifted. That was another question I had for you prior to housewives, because obviously you come on housewives, it had had been an assistant. established thing at that point, you know that the whole gig of the show is conflict and resolution. Were you always someone that was comfortable with conflict?

No. Oh my God. Interesting. I always said this. I came, I was a pageant girl. I came from a space where everybody loved me. And I loved everyone. And like you, I don't argue. I don't argue with people. I'm not like cussing people out. So like people will come up to me and be like, can you read me? No, no, no. I don't want to do that. I don't know you. And if I did, it would be good.

Right. That is not at all my nature. Yeah. And it's so funny that that is like who I've become known as like during my time on the show is like this like feisty like reading person. Rat tat tat tat. Yeah. Rastat tat. Candice.

Yeah. And yes, that is a part of who I am. Like I, you know, I'm, I can be feisty. I can have spice. But that's literally just one part of who I am. And this idea that, like, I am the resident, like, you know. Reader and Chief. Yes.

Yeah. Was so weird to me. And it just, but it worked because I became, I understood my role on the show. Totally. And, yes, I was the spoiled princess who reacted. And I'm good at reacting. Yes. And I found that, okay, well, you know, this is not my.

everyday life, but like for the, for the purposes of this space, I can enjoy, like, reading a bitch down who tries me or as I would say, like, if you come to my porch, my porch light is on. Yeah. Come in. Let's have a tussle. Let's sit down. Yes, yes. Are we just saying?

Whatever you need. Yes. The light is on for you to come in. Yes. It's great. On-T-A. I'm also identifying with this thing of, like, it might not be natural to who you are, but you come in and they tell you, this is really good.

You're doing really well doing this. You're kind of like, all right, well, I'm getting high marks. Yes, I'm going to keep going. Yeah. But this is, I think this is like a thread, if you'll let me, like, about you where like people will put you in a box and then you are always going to wonderfully break out of it, right? Pageant.

Yes. Housewife. And like, like, you've, you've really done a remarkable job of like going to the next thing. Thank you. I'm trying. But you are, I'm like, how does it feel? Because I think drive back and deep space started this conversation among people where we were like, where everyone was like, oh, like these housewife songs can be great. Yeah. Like that wasn't a thing before.

Yeah. Like how does it feel to have like the first like, I think you like broke ground there by like having like genuinely great. And love to all the other housewife songs. Yes, we love all the songs. And you don't have to comment on that comparison. But it's like these are. Like you can have this very like intentional. Yeah.

Visually sort of like curated artistry about yourself. Yeah. That was a part of my evil plan. Like coming on to housewives, I wanted to make friends. I wanted to like, I love a, I'm a pageant girl. I love a sisterhood. I love fellowshiping with women. Like that's a part of who I am.

But I was also like, okay, like I see what this platform can do if you use it the right way. I see how this could be like, you know, a springboard, how it could almost be like a cheat. Yeah. Yeah. To like break into these entertainment spaces. That's what I wanted out of it more than anything else. It's like, okay.

And even the song was kind of an accident. Like my first song, I was getting married on the show. And I always knew I wanted to perform a song for Chris at our reception. I always knew that. And I was like, okay, let me like, what would I do? And I wanted to do Tony Braxton's, I want to be your baby. Yeah. That song is from her Libra album.

Oh. Oh. I can't wait to ask you about your culture because I feel like I know some names you're going to say. And I'm really excited about it. Oh, yes. So I love Tony. And Chris and I were at the gym. And that song came on and I was like, I looked at him like, this is what I'm going to sing to it.

So then I go back to the producers and I'm like, okay, I want to do this song. And they were like, oh, no, bitch. We're not giving. We're not paying $40 million. for this song. For Tony's song. And I was like, oh shit. And then they were like, you need to do something original.

I said original, I don't have anything yet. So it forced me to sit down and write. I see you. Yeah. Which was my first like R&B ballad. Yes. That then turned into rest in peace, Chuckie Thompson, the go-go song. That it was like my love letter to D.C.,

which is where I became a woman. Yes. And then it was like kind of off from there. Yeah. But that's how it started. Yeah. That was, I'm getting a flashback. That was my first episode of Potomac.

Was your wedding? And was I see you. Oh, my gosh. This is the last thing I'll say about Potomac is that I used to say this is my favorite franchise because I would hang out with all of these women because they're funny and they're, they're so dimensional. And now it's like, I can't say that about these women except for, you know, a couple people. I mean, we are Stacey Rush for president.

The Daisy for president. I was so head of the curve on the QVC stuff. I was on this podcast and you guys have to check out her QVC videos. She's so crazy. I love her. She's my kind of crazy. She's quirky and funny and intro. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of layers there. And also at the end of her first season, when it turned out that, you know, maybe T.J wasn't actually her boyfriend after all. I was thinking, see, there's going to be a school of thought that says get her off the show. She's a liar. No, no, no.

Yeah, I was like, you have to leave in. This is, we have to dig in here. Yes. And they made the right choice. Oh, 100%. And then, like, also, the, there was a lot of, like, because I saw, there was a clip from the reunion where she's, they're talking about her QVC stuff. And somebody's like, well, you were acting on there.

And there was just always, like, a pile on, I feel like with her. And so, like, and they're upset with her, them being the rest of the cast. But you all made her famous because you, you, like, willfully hated on her. Yes. Right. If you had just ignored her, which she probably would have still, because she's,

she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's,

like, she's, but, like, you helped to, like, build these bricks. Yeah. And you stoked these fires.

Yeah. I was telling, I was telling Matt, um, but, like, the reunion, like, Annie's bringing up the QVC videos,

and then he throws it over to Kiara and he's just like, like, like, like, like, don't you enjoy the QVC videos? And she goes, um,

I think she was just, like trying to come up with an answer and she was like, that would be a no, but I do enjoy them. What? So are they? Did they have beef? Yeah, we don't know.

Kiana goes after Stacy. Yeah, in a big way. Oh, right, with the, um, my man, my things. My things. My thing. That was a great moment. My things. Yeah, I see that.

I mean. But even in that clip, it's like, like, Andy was asking her, do you enjoy those videos? And then Karen goes, no, but I enjoy them. So it's like, she even has to like, she had to give it to be like, oh, no, this is a thing that people love. It's because I knew her from our Fox local station in D.C.

She used to do like the traffic and weather. Oh, wow. Yes. At Fox. Shout out to WTTG. I was an intern there, so that's my station. She's always been that. Yes.

And you can't, you just can't deny her. Yeah. So some people are just going to be who they are. Yes. And that is meant for stardom. Yes. Speaking of who you are and stardom, I think it's time to ask Canada. the question. Yes.

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So the thing that came to mind, and I don't know if I'm like if this is good or bad. Now we have to say. No runeons. Like, is Tiffany New York Pollard? God bless. Thank you so much. Thank you so much.

You. What's happening because they know this is one of our North stars. I remember just like watching her the flavor of love of it all. And being like, wow, like that's me. Yes. Unapologetic. Yes, just she was just. herself.

Yep. Unapologetically, no holds, just like, I'm going to show up fully as myself. I don't care what you think. I don't care what you say.

And it was, like, I'd never seen that, like a dark-skinned black woman like living fully in her, in who she was. Yeah. Even if it was like,

some of it was cringy or, like, weird, or there were a lot of opinions, but like, you don't make history if you're not polarizing. No, no, no. She didn't, she didn't apologize.

She's a household name. Literally. Literally. Yes. I mean, and you're, she's a fellow wordsmith like you. Yes. Oh, you know what? And I, you know, okay.

WordSmith title of epa. I love my, I love Amarosa. That line. And I don't, I wasn't even, that, was that House of Villains? What was that? That was House of Villains. Yes. So I used to like, I used to watch it like late at night.

And I was like rolled over this way, half asleep. When I said, what? I had to rewind it. Because we were. What do you mean? I can't even repeat the words because I'll go to hell. But like, how do you come up with these things? And the thing is that's not, that's like, that obviously is in the Pantheon now,

but it's not even in the top 10 things that she has said. I mean, even just recently with the Zeeway interview. Oh my gosh. Barbara Walters could never. Never. Zeeway, by the way. I was like reading her lips to try and see what the bleep. You got Zeeway.

Yeah. Of all people to bleep you. Zeeway, like, she's like, like, pulling things. She's trying to get you to go there. Yeah. She was like almost like uncomfortable. I was like, let me just see if I can like see through the bleeping.

Can I like, and I couldn't get it. But we need to call the, what's the girl? She's deaf. She's deaf. She's deaf. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes. We need her.

We need her. She can read the lips. Absolutely. She told me what Kelly Rowland said. down to the, what was that? They were in France. Oh, oh, oh. When Kelly was like,

the Houston, Texas came out. Was it the Cannes Film Festival? Yes, Cannes Film Festival. Yeah, because one of the assistants was like pushing her on her. And she was like, don't put your hands on me. She got it perfect. I love her. Kelly Rowland, another name invoked legendary.

I love Kelly. She, one time I was singing the National Anthem at a Clippers game. And she was there. I just peed on myself. I was like, oh, my God. Did you get to interact with her? No, because she was like over there and I was over there.

And I can't talk together. But you know, no, it's like, it's like me and you. It's like, I can't. No, Bowen, please. I can't do it. Please. Wait, and this is, you and Tiffany, both iconic moments with knives,

waving a knife around. What knife? What knife? What knife? Flavor of Love Season 1 to Pumpkin. Oh my God! Do you know what I'm talking? I know.

Oh! Hello, Bowen here from the future. relative to when this episode was recorded here with a shameful correction. It was not pumpkin who Tiffany Pollard waved her knife at. It was hottie in the kitchen, giving birth to the phrase. New York is in the motherfucking house.

There is also another famous knife moment when New York was upset. That Flav was flirting with Goldie on their joint date, and she was brandishing a big, big sharp knife. Hope that clears things up, as you were. Wow! But she had a steak knife and he had a butter knife. so it's just different.

Wow. You remember those. She is my mother. She's your mother. Wow. I will say. She's like, no. This is a significant moment in media,

I'm going to say, like, in just media portrayal representation, something where it's like, it was, I got to school the next day after the spit moment. Oh my God. Culture had changed. Because I wasn't watching season one.

I didn't have cable, but I was like, we got to school the next day, and everyone was like, did you watch Flea of Love's? I was like, no, like what? It's like, it's a show in VH1, pumpkin spin on New York.

And then I like, I got the entire mythology in one sitting and I was like, something really important has happened. Turn it on. Turn it on. And so I would go with my dad to his business trips to Wyoming to just stay in the hotel room

so I could watch. You could have cable. So I could binge. So I could binge flavorable because VH1 would do these marathons. And it was just, it was, my jaw was on the floor. I was like, this is a star.

We've never seen. anyone like her. No. She is a wizard. She's a fairy. Also, you know, we both, our friend of ours just gave us as a gift, a mug,

and on it, it's the whole speech of pretty much I would let Jenna know. That she is a fat. Oh my God. You can't say it. I literally now we both own mugs. Did you get yours? I got mine. Okay, yeah. I need one. So now there's

no excuse to not be off book, everyone Truly. Yes. You can put it on a mug. Yes. But it's like she's a wordsmith like you. She has a very interesting mother. Yes, I was thinking that.

Sister Patterson. Sister Patterson. I saw a lot of my mom. That was the other thing. It was like, wow. And her mom is like mine. Like a strong woman. She's great.

She is a grandmother, honey. Yeah, that's cool. She calls me. and she's like, I'd be like, hey, and she's like, where's Jett? I mean, I'm okay. You know, I ate today, thanks. My inches are going back, thanks. But here's Jett, okay.

And when she comes to visit at least once a month. Yeah, great. And I don't see Jett. They sleep in the same bed. She's feeding him. He's like, Gaba, he can't say grandma. So he says, Gappa, Gabba, Gabba, Gabba, Gabba, Gabba. And now that she's gone, every morning I would get him up,

and he would, like, go to the top of the stairs and look down, and she'd be sitting in the living room. like drinking her coffee and watching Sherry. And he'd be like, gabba. So now every morning he goes and looks down and get up, gabba. And like, she's not there. She is at her house. Yeah.

We'll see her later. But they are just like, they don't tell you like that part of being a parent is like the, it's such a special weird feeling to like see your child with the person that birthed you. Wow. It's like, oh my God, this is special. What happens there when you see that? It's like, I can't describe it yet. It's just, it just feels like, it's almost like you're watching yourself.

Yeah. With your mother. It's like you get a glance into what they might have been like with you, but nicer. It's like in a moment where you see like, oh, it's almost like an appreciation. Like now that I can visualize literally you caring for this person, like I have an extra gratitude because you cared for me. Yeah. Yeah. So special.

It's like, for no other reason. do it for that. Like, just to give, give grandparents that moment. See, I don't think

either of us are going to have children. But you, but hearing you describe it is like profound. It is beautiful. Yeah, I just have one.

Of course. You can share them. We'll be able to this point. Are there songs about motherhood? There is a song. There is a song on my impending album.

Impending. Yeah. What can we have any details about this? Well, there is a new remix. So if only is out now. stream, download, all those things.

There is a remix that, so I teased it today on my social. Great. With a very special someone that we all know and love that will be coming out, I think, in like two weeks. Oh, love. I should know the date, but I don't. So it's a surprise. Yes. The remix is.

The remix is a surprise. Got it. The special guest is a surprise. The remix is out. The teaser is out today. Got it. but the special guest is very special. Oh, I want to find out off here.

But speaking of music, because I love that you said Tiffany, New York Pollard, but as a musician, one of the things I love about Deep Space is I feel like I can draw a line to it to really, really important music from when I was younger and then looking you up a little bit, I know that you like are a late 90s R&B girly. Oh, yes. So I just have to say that you know that I was thinking about never say never. Oh my God, of course. Like I'm telling you.

Honey. And I hear just like obviously lots of Tony but like the tone of your voice like speaks to yes Tony but obviously Brandy. Yeah. Like I can just hear it in the way that you sing. I can hear it in the way that you approach words like I wanted to know about like your musical. Yeah. Inspirations and wondering if I'm onto something. there.

You know what is so, you know, like when you do something and it's intentional and you don't know people are going to get it. Uh-huh. Thank you.

Yeah. For getting it. And I, it just, it validates like, the little girl in me that was like in her room dancing until she was sweating

with her hairbrush to I want to dance with somebody. Oh, yeah. And knowing like somehow, some way someday, like she would be here and like me be talking about her music.

Um, I used to, so, Do you guys remember, like, the big CD, the like six-disc CD changer? The two big speakers. Oh, yes. And it had the two cassette tape because we still had cassette tape. 100%.

So I had one of those. Yep. And I had, it was always a Whitney Houston CD, um, butterfly or rainbow or bold. Oh, my God. Never say never. Just punch me in the heart. Butterfly is my favorite album all the time. Monica.

What's her album with the blue, the baby blue? I'm so gone. Angel of mine. Angel of mine. Angel of mine. Yeah, yeah. I'm back with another correction. It is not Angel of Mine.

That is the name of another single off of that album. But it is called The Boy is Mine, of course. And I knew that that was wrong when I said it, as you were. Misunderstood Pink. Oh, yeah. When Pink was still kind of black. Yeah, the Candy Burris era. Black Pink.

Black Pink. We love pink. We love pink pink today. We love pink pink. We love Black Pink too. And we love Black Space Pink. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. All the Black Pink. Yes. All are invited. That was in there. Oh, dirty. Yes. Yes.

The stripped album was the album. Not to say she never got back there because like she's got so much incredible work since then. Yeah. But the reason I say that is because we were in the midst of a moment with stripped and we didn't even realize it. No. Right. It was a phenomenon that we didn't know. And I would like, I study back when music videos were still like a thing.

Yeah. and making the video and you'd spend like three, four days, like and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to like give the world this art. That we don't have. Nobody is spending that kind of money anymore. Nobody is like investing in that part of the artistic process anymore. It's such a shame. Yes, I tried.

I did do it. I did it. My favorite visual of mine is, is it enough? Mm-hmm. And I spend a lot money on that. Yeah, they're expensive. People don't realize. These are like, for a music video, it's like 50, 60,000.

if you're rocking and rolling. Oh, yes. I think I spent like 40, 35, 40. And it was over two days. Yeah. But I'm not mad. I don't regret it.

No, because you'll always have it because I also feel like, especially you as someone who's like wanted to do this for so long and like has inspirations and a vision of what this looks like. You can't just do your album without music videos.

No, like and my team was like, girl, we don't need that. I say we're doing it. Yeah, we're doing good. I want this. It's for you. Yes. Yes, it is for me.

Yes. I don't care if anybody else watches it. Even on my new project, I know right now what song will have a visual. Okay. I don't care what you. And there will be an eight count. Yep. Okay.

I'm going to oil my knees up real good. Let's go. Yes. It's going to happen. And if nobody watches it, I will have lived my life. Yeah. And done the things I needed to do. It's investing in yourself.

What is this about you being a rock star on your past life? Because you're bringing a rock sound to this album, I hear. Yes. Yes. Talk about, was there a rock album in the rotation of the sixth CD player? Or like what, like, what are you drawing from personally if? So it is still a goal of mine to do like a rock R&B version of Under the Bridge. Ooh.

I love the chili peppers. Yeah, come on. I love, I love, yes. Yeah, he was hot too. Yeah, he was cute. He's kind of weird now. Now it's tough. He was cute then.

I mean, you know. I love what. I love when our straight guys who do our show, like, sort of, like, interact with one random straight thing we say. Yes. And Anthony Keatis got them to laugh today. It was David Fincher a couple of years ago. And now it's 2026 Anthony Keats.

So we're back. Yes, yes, welcome. So you want to do Under the Bridge? Yes. Wow. I love that song. I love that song. I love, like, Led Zeppelin.

I love, what is his name? What is, um, um, with the teeth? Mr. With the teeth. With the teeth. Freddie. Freddie Mercury. Oh, yeah.

Yes. Yes. Yes. You know. You know, him with the teeth. May he rest. May he rest.

That's a great flattering way to refer to him. Yeah. Well, because that was just like. Signature. It's the dark hair. It's the white tank. It's the jeans. It's the belted situation.

Yes. Even Prince. Prince is probably like my rock idol. Yes. I like I want to be. print. Yeah. I just,

he, he did it right. And he went too soon. Like it was, and it made no sense. Like, no business being did. Like, none.

It is crazy. It's like one of those ones that you're like, wait, can we go back? How did this happen? How did this happen? Yeah. It just,

it happened so fast. Yeah. And if like, he didn't even get like his just due. Like, it was just like, okay, he's gone. What's next?

Like, we, we need to go back and like, honor him properly. Yeah. Because he just dropped that last album with like the three sort of lens, glasses and then that was it yeah you're right it didn't feel yeah yeah there was it we i don't

because he's such a monumental yes influence forget about artist in his own right influence on the most important artists of our generation yes like namely biance who by the way shuts everything down yep to to i'll never forget it was the formation world tour at queens and she and she She stopped everything to make sure that at her concert, Prince was going to get a full-on, you know, like, moment. Yeah, yeah. And Tina Turner, too. Tina.

Tina is like the female version. They are like each other's opposite and gender. Like, I, if I could be Tina, Tina, Tina's knees are better than mine. Like, if you, old school Tina, when she was like, it was like, there would be, there are like videos of her where I'm like, is this sped up? She created something.

And it wasn't. It was insane to me. And I'm not even, this is how I know, like, I'm going to be here for a while. Because I haven't even, like, touched the surface of what I want to do. Of course. Like, I feel like Deep Space was amazing. Introducing. It's my baby.

It was my introduction. And I was, like, timid. And I was, like, kind of, like, doing what I thought I should do. And listening to my trusted team, listening to. listening to them. This next album, I was like, no, I'm not doing that. Yeah. I was a little bit more vocal.

Yeah. But I even still, like, even now, this project is like mostly done. I'm recording a few more songs. But I'm already thinking about like what I want to do next. Yeah, good. And it's like, I'm like slowly coming out of my shell. And like eventually I'm going to do like whatever the fuck. And it's going to be what it's going to be.

And I like, I can't. can't wait to get there. This is what I'm saying, Candace, like, you will keep coming out of your shell because this is what you do. This is, this is so exciting. And, like, I mean, hearing you talk about, like, the Robb conversation moment, not to go back to this, but just quickly, I'm like, oh, you have such an understanding of narrative. And, like, you knew that wasn't, you knew in the moment, you didn't know in the moment that it would be such a moment. Right. Right.

Yeah. And then what Matt's kind of bringing up with, like, the pageant stuff where it's like, oh, you weren't sort of conflict-oriented back. And you're in that sort of, sort of origin. It's like, I think you, I'm like, oh, you could be like a producer. Like, you could be like behind the scenes. You're such a star. You should be in front of the camera. Well, that's a thing.

But you know, I think, I think the world's your oyster. Thank you. I really do. I receive it. I mean, also the thing about you is, are you a voice noter? Oh, yes. Because you write when you speak. Yes.

That's something I recognize in you is I'm like, I feel like you, you, channel. Uh-huh. And you have to have, just your hand has to be on that voice note. Yes. Because I feel like sometimes, I don't know how you feel, but it's hard for me to sit down and, and like actually write and log. Yeah.

It's easier to handwrite. Yeah. You, like I said, one of our great verbal processors, you literally write when you speak. It's good, you know, it is quality enough when it comes from your brain through your mouth. That's why it's caught on so many times on housewives. But that, if you channel it, like that, there's so much. much that could go into the work.

I received that. Yeah. Yeah. My Jet, because I do talk to text all the time. And now Jet will take my phone. He calls it a stone, stone. And he takes my stone. And he'll like hold it up to his mouth and go.

I'm like, what are you doing? And I'm like, oh my God, he's mimicking me. Yeah. Because I do that all day. Yep. It's insane. But yes, I'm working on. a piece of literature.

Mm. And so much of it, just a little, a little, a little tomb. Yeah. A little bit of a miniature tomb. And I do type.

Because I do, like, depending on the day that I'm writing, some days I do just want to, like, I want the energy to come out of my hand. Yeah. Yeah. But sometimes I'm like, now I'm just about to hit this button

and, like, speak the words of this book. Yeah, 100%. And it just, it, It goes. Yeah. And yeah, I do, it's because I read a lot as a kid. Yeah. Always reading a book, a Goosebump's book, Babysers Club.

Goose Bums. Babysitters Club. This is the box card children. Yes. Oh, boxed our children. Oh, my God. Yes, I do. Oh, my gosh.

No, yeah, that's, this is all, it's all foundational. I've always wanted to ask you, what did you do at the White House? What was your job at the White House? I was an intern in the offices of public engagement and intergovernmental affairs. I see. So I was a liaison. So my office liaised between the White House and mostly the black community. Oh, okay.

So, like, we would do all the tours. We'd bring people in. Yes. Yeah. First term. Obama or second? First term. Okay.

End of first term. And then when I did the campaign, that was the second time. Yes, yes, 2012. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. What a time. We were lucky enough to get a tour right before the old switchover. But I was on tour in D.C.

This last, no, no, obviously not this last, but the year prior. Mm-hmm. And it was, I had to be, it had to be, you know, December 4th, 5th, 6th. So they knew. Oh, the holidays. So it was the holidays at the White House. But it was obviously a month after the election and a month before the changeover. So they were like, yeah, if you want to come in for a tour, they literally go.

I think I did that too. Yeah. Yeah. We was like, and I took Jet. That was like his, that was like his fourth time. Because you were like, let me get in here before. Yeah. He had been like three other times when he was in utero.

Yeah. And I was like, let's go. So you can like see it and get to get a picture in here. So, you know, if it all burns to the ground, but we can say we were in here. And it basically is, anyway. It's ashes. Yeah.

They said as much, though. I remember feeling so frustrated, but obviously understanding because, you know, the lovely women that were giving us the tour there were like, because, you know, who knows if we're ever coming back. And I'm like, even you guys are saying that. It is grim in there. Yeah.

And then recently I was invited. Oh, no. For a tour. And I was like, no, why? I've seen it, thanks. No, thank you. Yeah, I've been there. And, you know, somebody was like, well, you know, it's still the way of hells.

It's like, it's not my way hell. No. And I don't, and then it's just the energy. I'm going to go in there and, like, I've heard about the, like, out of spite, the changes that have been made. Oh, yeah. It's just going to piss me off. I'm going to end up, like, underground in a bunker or something because I'll, like, kick a door. I don't need to go.

No. No, I've seen it. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Oh, I have to really quickly point out, we forgot to say. Undomesticated. Undomesticated. Michael, no, I've read his book when it came out. Which one?

I can't date Jesus. Oh, that is my book. That's how I slid in his DMs like, wait, this book is like my life. Excellent. Just the way. He writes the way that I think. Yes. And like all of his books are this way.

But like you just, you feel like you're sitting like with a friend like just talking about your life when you're reading his book. Yes. And I remember my best friend was like, I'm reading this book. And I feel like you really like it. And it's like it's just aligned with your life. And I was okay, sure, I'll read it. And I was halfway through and I just,

I've never done it before. I was like, I need to tell him how amazing his writing it. And I slid in his DMs and I was like, you know, I just like everything you're saying about like your mom, your relationship with your mom and like your life and being from the South, we both went to Howard. Yeah, yeah. So I was like, I have to tell you this.

And we became friends from that. Genuine, beautiful. Like, I just, he's, he's a brilliant human. He's, like, too brilliant for the world. He's wonderful. He writes all about how, like, he calls it, um, beatheism, like his love for Beyonce, but like, like, how, like, because he came up Catholic, I believe.

He's Catholic. He was raised Catholic. He was raised Catholic. And, like, he, like, maybe was going to be a priest, I think. I don't remember this. Or a man of the cloth in some way. And then, like, he just writes about how, like, loving someone, like, Beah,

Beyonce is a better sort of lens to which, through which you like evaluate your own self concept or worth or whatever. Like that is a bit more meaningful in the current day. That's interesting. Like look at a pop star like Beyonce or any, or just any artist that you love and just be like, oh, this is, this is telling me something about myself. It's very, it's so, it's very beautiful. And like I've always, I've been such, I love that you guys have this wonderful podcast

together. Yes. It just, it works. And he's, he lives up to his name. His name on Instagram is Young Seneca. So he's going to give it. you very straight and tell you the truth. And I'm not far behind.

But I love how we like, we find different ways to like approach the same topic. He's going to be like, yeah, that bitch is fucked up. And I might be like, yeah, she is fucked up. But, you know, maybe in her childhood, her daddy was, you know, I will find a way. Because I have an honorary MD.

Yeah. Come on now. My parents are physicians. So, you know, I will diagnose. I was just talking the other day about. You know enough. Something. Somebody's like blood pressure or something.

And my mom was like, are you a doctor? I say yes, girl. Isn't that how it works? Okay. I'm an airdresser, I suppose. Yes. Yes. You've been around it enough.

Yeah. You have an MD honorarily. You know what, though? You do pick up some things. Yes. Part of why I think I'm doing this is because I heard my mom talk to women in the chair when she was cutting their hair. So you're a doctor. It is the same.

Yes. And you are Oprah. Yes. That's how it works. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. In that vein, I think it's time to move on.

Before we move on to I don't think so, honey, I do have to ask you one question, which is what is your favorite brandy track? There's not one. The entire of the full moon. I just, I die to talk about her all the time on this podcast and we rarely have people that are like, that know the lore. Same. Same. People don't respect Brandy. He does not get the respect she deserves.

They took her for granted. Yes. But no, it's not even that. It's just that you don't have the range. Like when you don't get Brandy, it's because you can't sit with this. Like you don't get it. You have to put your ear on the speaker. Yes.

To really appreciate Brandy, the vocal Bible. Vocal Bible. So you used to really, I read this about you, you used to really put your ear to the speaker so you could hear all the stacks, all the harmonies. Every one, every stack. Yes. And like, I want like six-harmonie. I want six-part harmony because Brandi did it first.

No. And if people be sick of me. So Ariana could sprint. Listen. Yes. Kalani, too, has talked about how she is like, that is her mother. And they'd be sick of me in the studio. Like, okay, we, no, no, no, it's one more in there.

Let's, let's find it. Let's find it. Because it's in there. Yes. Like, you, I, the fullness of sound is because of branding. Yes. Acapella from Human. I love the entire Human album.

Yeah. But Acapella is probably one of my favorites. I think it's a tie. I never say never comes at. in 98. So that's like right around when butterfly happened. So this is when I was like telling myself

that okay, this is the music I like. Yeah. But then also, you know what album gets lost is Aphrodisiac. Unfortunately, Kanye is on Talk About Our Love.

A little bit. Yeah, that's a good one. I also, the latest one that she did with Camper that everybody was like, this is weird. What was that album called? Are you talking about B7?

B7. Yeah. I appreciate B7. Yeah. Like, I appreciate anything she does. Yes. Yeah.

Yeah. Like people were like, This is, it was different. And, I mean, Brandy is known for a specific sound. I get, I respect that she wanted to try something else. Yes, of course. And I lived for it. Yeah.

Last year, when we were putting our culture awards together and so we heard that Brandy and Monica were going on tour together. And I remember I said, wait, I was like, there's no better moment in life I can ever think of than them for the first time, or at least for a long time, performing the boy is mine together. Yeah. I wrote them a letter. Do you remember this?

Because they were pitched to us. So basically, like, we saw that there was a possible chance. And I was like, stop everything. I've never done this before. I'm writing a letter to the talent. And I got to, like, I got to find it and keep it because I, by the end, I was emotional because I realized, like, I was speaking about something that had such a bigger impact that I could ever know.

Just like the lore of their relationship that all went right into that, to the vocals in that. Like just the wildness of the riffs and the choices, but how they spoke to each other, the tension in that. Yes. The very adult tone in Monica's voice, contrasting with the girlish airiness of Brandy's voice, gave personified POV.

One of the great tracks ever, ever is that song. Whenever reduplicated. Never reduplicated. Never. Never. They can't. Yeah. Or they should try because we'd love to hear the attempts.

Yeah. No, I want to see them at essence. Like, they're, I'm happy that they're continuing. Like, they're not sick of each other yet. Like, keep it going. Yeah, because you do worry. Yeah. You know, ever so slightly.

When you're tied to people in that way through the years, it's like you never know what the tone is. When they're going to be over it. Yeah. Exactly. Let's keep it going. I love it. And ever since their versus, that was like what got me into the versus of it all.

I'm like, okay, is this like child's play, what's happening? And then they said they got Brandy and Monica to come do it. And I was like, oh, this is real. And then they had that one moment of tension. And I'm like, no, no, don't ruin it. Pack it up. Like, please. Don't want it, please.

We're all living at home during COVID. They're amazing together. And it's also just like, it's very grown woman of them. Of course. Let's put this all to the side. The fans want this. Let's give. And we need healing in the world right now.

Okay. So if the girls are not fighting, everything is good. Yes. other girls are fighting. Let them fight. 100%. Let them fight. Not y'all. Yeah. Yo is throwing it back. 2010s, the decade.

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I can, I might start this time. You want to start this time? Because, because Candace has inspired something in me. Then LFG, okay, I'm going to put, One minute on the clock for the one, the only Bowen Yang. Yep. And he's going to tear it up. This is Bowen Yang's.

I don't think so, honey. And his time starts now. I don't think so many, oh, you're still on your dad's plan for X, Y, Z. Yes, I still have a Chase College debit account because my father started it in my name. Right over here we have the iconic Candace Dillard Bassett saying, yes, I'm still on my father's phone plan. And I will never get off of it. Oh, why? For why?

Why? What would be the reason? Because it's not like a thing with like marriages, let's say, where it's like, yeah, of course you like kind of combine your assets, you combine your things. There's nothing wrong with someone in the family, no matter what the age is, to be within the plan of some arrangement. Yes.

I don't think there should be stigma around that. I don't understand. I'm not, there's no existential functional difference in me having this Chase College account. 15 seconds. Under my dad's name. It's under my name, but it still has his name in parentheses. He doesn't have any visit. into it.

But I'm like, yeah, why not? It connects me to my college days. I think of myself 2008 moving to New York with a dream and $10 in my account. And that's one minute. I remember the moment that the Chase representative walked up and said, what about a credit card? And my parents turned to me and said, I guess we're getting you a credit card. Wow.

It's a moment. Yes. I'm also, my, so my first checking account that my dad opened was like under his name. Yeah. I also still have that account. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. So, like, if he needs to, like, transfer money or take money out,

because, like, I think, you know how you can do the, you pay for the phone in installments? Yes, yes. So he makes me pay. You're still, it's still your phone. And it comes out of that account. Exactly. And I just pay him, like, the $47 or whatever it is a month.

And he set up the automatic trance. So it's like, yes. But if he wants to slide a couple dollars in there, he can do that too. That's fine as well. Yes. Their parents having access. to that kind of account is so funny because when I knew I had to end it

was my mom goes to me I just wanted to ask about because I can see it and I was like okay don't look at that she was like what's only fans I was like I'm supporting the arts I was like don't look at this anymore

you are technically it is the arts it's artful art is a loose term and don't we know it Listen, my God today Yes Okay

Fabulous and more Thank you I think you spoke to a generation Well I understand the stigma around it Okay I have one Okay great This is you know It's not directed at anyone in particular

But we're talking fashion This is Matt Rogers I don't think so many's time starts now I don't think so honey Men in Shear Now I'm Is this a little bit me just scared to do Because I feel like

You know, when Hudson and Connor hit the carpet and they're in a look, you have to think, is this now a fashion trend? And they were in sheer last night at the Vanity Fair Oscar party. And I said, please not this, because then we might have to explore sheer. That's not happening for me like the way it is on Hudson and Connor. And I think this may go the way of shirtless under a blazer. If you think can think back to six years ago, a lot of people doing shirtless under a blazer on red carpets. It dates the look. It dates the look, and I just think, classic.

30 seconds. What if we return to classic? I think about this a lot. I just kind of want to see. You showed up the other day at the Glad Awards in like a black tucks. Yeah. I said classic. Remember that?

Return to Hollywood glamour. Five seconds. I'm just saying, let's call out these things before they become mainstay trends. Shear, I don't think so. And that's one minute and 16 seconds. Oh, wow. I really went over. It's okay.

It's a given over. No problem. You had a lot to say. I just, because you know when you see it start to catch on? Yes. And you're like, okay, now you have to wrap your mind around it. Yes, yeah. I love sheer, though.

I do sheer often. That's you, though. Yeah, I do like a bra and I do like a sheer top. 100%. But for men, it's like, it's like if you're going to do sheer, that kind of means you're showing nipple. A little bit. Yeah.

I mean, but they're just little nips. There's little nips. They are totally little nips. It's like huge ariolas. Right. You know. But not every nipple. made the same. They are not.

Like some nipples are like, you see a nipple out in the wild and you're like, oh, wow. Yeah. And mine have the little points. Mine I'm like, I gotta go to Sanu and get the massage for an hour per boo. Uh-huh. I got to go to Sanu. Yes, yes. Get the milk out. It's important. Okay, don't let it stay in there too long. The shaking

of the heads that are happening. Okay, so here we go. We're ready for the moment. That is, Candace's I don't think so honey. Do you have thoughts? I have a thought. Okay. And you can read off the phone if you would like. Wait, do I want to use this one?

Because I feel like I already. See, now this is how we know the notes app is. The notes app will be popping on my phone. Like, not even kidding. Wait, I might, let me try. I want to find one. Yep, take your time. Wait.

I wasn't prepared. No, no, no. Be prepared. You need to cover and be prepared. Yes. My mother called me scar once. Why? I don't know.

We were talking about. the Lion King, and it was like around the time of my wedding. And she was like, you have an attitude. You're acting. And she's like, you're acting like, Scar? She was like, oh, whatever, Scar. She said it like that. All right.

And my best friend never lets me forget. Okay, Scar. Okay, scar. And I will never forget. By the way, you would never do house the villains because that's predicated on you being a villain. Exactly. And I'm not a villain.

I'm just misunderstood. Yeah. Also, I think it's loose. It's loose. It's loose. They asked Fraser if he wanted to do it. I'm like, you're not a villain. Frazier like. Blowdeck. Oh, yes, yes, yes.

Uh-huh. He's not a villain. No. He's not a villain. Well, maybe that's the lore in it. He's just like blonde and icy and British. And so they try to like, they object. He told me that they're always trying to push him in a villain direction.

And he's like, but that's not really what I can give you naturally. And so, yeah, I feel like you. know something about that. Yes, that's how I feel often. Okay, I... There are so many things I could say, and they're all just escaping me. That's okay.

Oh, I've got it. Okay. Okay. She's ready. Lock in for Candace. This is... Candace. I don't think so, honey. Her time starts.

No. But again, one last time, as we mentioned at the top of this episode, we recorded this the day after the Oscars, when Matt and I were listfully unaware of this whole Bachelorette fiasco. Obviously, a lot of things have happened since, including the TMZ video and the cancellation of the season at the time of this recording, as in this little memo insertion.

It seems like it's still developing. Anyway, that's just helpful to know. Okay, enjoy Candace's wonderful. I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey. But y'all and this new bachelorette, Miss, what's her name? Taylor, Frankie, Paul? She's ghetto.

and I'm just going to go on the record and say as much. I've said it already. But the Bachelorette used to be this like girl next door. You know, she's pulled up. She's straight and narrow. She's got all of her marbles. She keeps her legs closed. She sits pretty.

She gives you sash shang of the shoulder. 30 seconds. And now we are fully like embracing the direction of hood rat. Like she, she's been to jail. she is she's been she's like beating up her husband allegedly right 15 seconds

she's a mess and I'm just like how did we get here the Bachelorette is going downhill fast I'm gonna be watching but I will be watching with just like a squint in my eye

because how are we here what do we do? The man came out the other day saying that he slept with her the day before she left to go do the show Oh no we are in the gathering

And that's one minute and ten seconds. So I didn't realize until last night watching the Oscars when they were playing the commercials for ABC. I was like, that's Mormon girl. Yes. I didn't realize we were dipping into the other properties. You're dipping into the ghetto. I have not. Wait, who is this person?

Who is she? Frankie Taylor Paul. It's Taylor Frankie Paul is her name. Taylor Frankie Paul. And she's just, she's a mess. Well, she's just a mess. Utah doesn't have a good history with people with. the last name Frankie. I'm just going to say. Oh, is that

who else is Frankie? So there was also that she's the bachelorette. Yes. That's it. Wow. Tilly Frankie Paul. How do we get here? TikTok and reality star. Well, you know what? I think honestly what happened is I think Dancing with the Stars had huge success with Whitney Levitt. Yes, whom I love. And yes. I love her. And real talent. And then they said, okay, well, this is a property that people clearly are hungry for. Right. It's both ABC.

Let's lean in. So they probably said, because the secret wives is on Hulu, right? Yes. Yep. Yep. Helping the umbrella. That's a There you go. Yeah. What is that called? Synergy? Synergy. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, down the line. Just this thing trickle down. I was unaware she was selected for such a role. I think it started already or it's starting soon. But I'm just like, she just, I'm going to watch. I'm going to be open. Yes.

But I'm very much judging. Do you feel like as someone in unscripted television that you must be very, very literate and very cut up on the general landscape of it. To a degree. It's a lot. It's a lot of stuff. Yeah, I think you have to also kind of protect your piece and decide, like, okay, I'm going to step away for now. Yeah.

But it's also like, if you are at all on socials, you can't escape it. Like, if you're on TMZ or the Shade Room, which is like, that's the devil's door. TMZ, the neighborhood talk, like, these are, I follow these, these, these behemble. of social. And you're like you, you're gonna see it. Even people, like all of our like reputable

like journalistic outlets are like in the smut of it all. Right. There's something did happen. Well, obviously we know what happened, which is fucking a reality star became the president of the United States.

That part. But then I do think everything kind of collapsed in and itself where it was like there's no, it's hard to tell what's an A-list star now. Correct. And who and others. Yeah.

Like people. people lose their minds in the airport for reality stars. But like Angela Bassett is standing here. Exactly. You're like, can I divert your attention? Hello. Like real talent is, you know, they don't care. Well, I'd say it's the parasitiality of it.

It's like I, but meanwhile for me, whatever, I'll analyze myself later, but it's like people feel like they will know you. And so they'll like come up to you and sort of break down the familiarity walls a little too quickly, whereas if they see someone more, quote unquote, reputable artistically and whatever that means. They're an another echelon. So I can't relate. Unreachable.

Yeah. I, yes. I don't know too many details about their life firsthand. Right. But do you, before you were you and you were you, if you saw like Tiffany Pollard on the street. Never. That's different. Well, when you have also like an occasion to speak to them.

Yes. That's different. So there was something like that happened where once I got in the rooms as and I was invited to the room, I was like now I feel like I can say hello because like I always say well since I was little like my idol was Kelly Clarkson. Idol, idol, idol, idol. And I remember when you performed on her show too. I was so proud of you. I was like, yeah, she performed on Kelly. even though it was COVID and virtual.

Yes. But I had gotten to the point where like there were a few times where I could have like gone up to her randomly and said hello. But I was like, no. Yeah. I have to wait because I knew I was manifesting like interacting with her like in some way. And then I got to meet her on her show when I was a guest. So I was just like I'm happy. I waited because I never think anyone's going to want to talk to me anyway.

Like why? Yeah. And it's not to say that I, my friends call me a friendly ho, because I will stop and talk to you everybody. I love like when people want to come up to me and talk to me, but that's me. Yes. I don't think that anyone wants to hear my story about how I was crying because I, when you threw your butter knife, it made me one for my butter knife.

Like I don't. You give us on permission. Right. I was liberated to throw butter knives. Like I don't think you care. Have you been, have you had? that occasion with Tiffany. I've never met Tiffany.

I've never been in in proximity to her. So if you are in like a room with her where everybody's sort of like, like the social glue is there, would you go up to her? I would. Because like you, I feel like I'm in a space

where I've arrived enough. She'd be thrilled to see you. Enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I still have more arriving to do, but I've arrived enough where it's like, okay, we are like, we're,

there's synergy here. We're like in a similar, zeitgeist of things. 100% And yes, I would. We need to see you guys in conversation. Next year, variety actors on actors. I want to see everyone who's up there at Oscar

and then Camis and Tiffany. This is what I'm saying. And I know we can make it happen. This is a place where things get manifested. Listen, I'm a manifest. I'm a manifester, however, I will say, a good friend of mine, Cammy Crawford. Do you know Cammy?

I don't think so. She was Miss TN USA. She was on, she hosted Catfitt. with Ned. Oh, sure, sure. She has a podcast called Relationship. She recently did a post

where she met a woman like randomly at the Grove. The woman was like, do you say, do you manifest? And she was like, of course. And the woman was like, well, stop. You need to woman fest. Oh, sure.

And I was like, well, wait a damn minute. Sure. If that's not real. So I'm no longer manifesting, I am woman festing. Yes. Okay. It is women's history month.

And I think we have. fully gay guy effested a full banger of an episode with you today. I could talk to you guys all day. I swear like we have always like looked through the screen and just had so much fun watching you. You're so just like

you carry the light and we love watching you crush. Of course you're the star of the traitors. Like when you and Rina pulled off those cloaks to see each other know that that was also the response we were having at home. I called you like I can't

I pumped with who they picked. I pumped my fist in the air. It was one of those. And we needed it in the moment. Yes. Absolutely. It was a brilliant time. We adore you.

Are you going on tour with Tamar? Perhaps. Oh. Braxton family values. You know, we are the Braxton's and you'll see. What is the song? We are the Braxton's and you'll see. Yes.

We are not like, I don't know the words. We're like, I don't know the words. We'll teach you a thing. Yes, and she's warm. Family Val. No, I'm not. Now you are. Yes.

We're good in there. I love long live the Braxton. Oh, deeply. But I will say, I know we have to go. But like, they say you're not supposed to meet your heroes. I actually like would be terrified to meet Tony. Well, Tony is another level. I would be terrified.

I've obviously met Tamar. Yeah. I toured with Tamar on her Love and War tour. Oh, Loving War. And then I have a song with Tracy Braxton. Yes. Yes. And she's probably my favorite breast because she is just,

just insane. Like just the funniest, most hilarious person you will ever meet in your life. Yeah. And so kind and so just sisterly and a mentor. And Tamar is that to me as well. But

there's no one like... Tony is the reason for the whole season. I would... I don't like get starstruck. I would like melt into the carpet. It's funny Brexit. I would just rather adore her from afar almost.

I understand. You know? Like, she's, I would, I would convulse. I saw her in Aida on Broadway. Oh. And I just,

this is the 90s? Yes. This was like 2000. Maybe right turn of the century. But I'm telling you, she went in as one of the replacements and I was like, you know, a little 10 year old,

like a little closeted gay white boy. I was like, we have to see Aida. To my parents. And they were like, okay. And I believe Adina Mendel was Mnarris at the time. Oh, sure, sure. Yeah, it was star-star-studded. I think.

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