Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "X, Y & US" (w/ Danny Pellegrino)

Episode Date: February 9, 2022

Truly gay podcasts collide in this episode as Matt & Bowen are joined by Danny Pellegrino! The host of Everything Iconic and author of How Do I Unremember This? Unfortunately True Stories (out March 8th) has thoughts on the whole season we just experienced of And Just Like That..., as do our hosts. Guess what? RAVE REVIEWS. The third graders keep winning. Also? Housewives. Rosie. Tyra, Sunny, Whoopi Joy, everyone else that's ever hosted The View, Bethenny, and much more. Danny felt like a third co-host! Get the book. Listen to the pod. Rinse, repeat! So what?! Who Cares?! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Look, man. Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. In person.

In person, but I'm pissed. Why, though? We lost an award again. I'm furious, and I can't believe on our own network we would lose the award for best comedy podcast. Why do you do this to us, iHeart? I'm turning around looking at the producer. It's not... And I the producer. It's not... And I'm pissed.

It's not Anna's fault. No, it is. She's a part of the whole operation. It's corporate structures. She's a part of it. She's a part of it. But you know, she's our producer. And if we're going to go by and just like that rules,

we got to make out with her in the elevator. Can I say that was so hot? Oh my God, Bowen. I loved it. I really, I was so uplifted. And I kind of, can I say something? Made the whole insanity of the season worth it. It was a perfect season.

It was a perfect season. Now that I've seen the finale and I love the finale so much, I'm confident in saying it's a perfect season. And we're going to bring our guest in because we truly have, in a second, but we truly have someone who I know is going to want to weigh in on this. I really need to hear this. And what I want to say at the top is give SJP the nom. While we're

talking about awards, give SJP the nom. We sat down, looked each other in the eyes, and Bo and Yang said you'd watch her do anything. I could watch her do anything. We've said this before on the podcast, but I could watch her act with a lamp for hours.

Her scene partner was a fucking reading light. When she turned to that lamp and she was talking to the lamp, there was more, and I'm going to say this, there was more electricity between her and that lamp than Miranda and Che ever had all season.

Thank you. And can we talk about her going back to the electrician, to the lamp store or whatever the fuck. Lamp store. Lamp store. The disappointment in her face when it the electrician, to the lamp store, whatever the fuck. Lamp store. Lamp store. The disappointment in her face when it was just like,

it's just the wire. It's just the wire. And then, the lamp went on again. I said, it wasn't the wire. And then that, did it make you believe in heaven?

Yes, me too. In the afterlife? Yeah. Or not Judeo-Christian heaven. Oh. But the afterlife. Yes. You know what? There's's something I think that when we die there's something

I never expected the sex in the city universe to touch on the afterlife in this way on the paranormal I just did the readers mind blown I just did the thing of like

mind blown oh my god can we just say the line reading that gave me chills from my toes to the top of my hairs from the root chakra

to the crown everything I'm Carrie Bradshaw and this is Sex and the City no even even before that

when she goes well that's it for my first podcast I'll get better like And this is Sex and the City. No, even before that when she goes, well, that's it for my first podcast. I'll get better. Like, do you know what I'm talking about? She's effortless. She's so good! And you know what the thing is?

We gotta bring the guest in. We gotta bring the guest in. All right, so listen. This actually, this is huge, okay? This is actually a moment in time because talk about, so this, I'm gonna put in quotes as like a pop culture podcast. But we don't know what the fuck we're talking about. Never, not once.

And could either of us do this alone? I don't think so. No. And can you fucking imagine? You know what? I did the HBO Max Movie Club podcast alone. And it's hard as shit. It's hard as shit.

I did the search party thing alone. It's so difficult. It's one of the hardest things anyone could ever do. To solo host a podcast. And to solo host a podcast. And Carrie Bradshaw's doing it. Honey. Carrying it it as it were

we both got carried away oh shit and who the fuck is that i know you're all asking and i actually think the readers are actually going to be really excited about this because i bet there's crossover now so not only is our guest today an esteemed solo podcaster and he has guests but you know it's mostly the main event is him. Of the podcast Everything Iconic, which is truly, it lives up to its name. But also, now he's written a book, Beau. Another one of the hardest things you could do.

The hardest thing you can also do is to bring hard copies of your book to the podcast you're about to go on. The elegance that that has. Talk about effortless. Talk about effortless. And the way he handed it over, I brought has. So effortless. Talk about effortless. Talk about effortless. And the way he handed it over, I brought books. I brought books.

I said, what? You two are two of the first people to get the book. Are you fucking kidding? My mom got a copy, and then you guys got a copy. And then we also said the blurbs. The blurbs. Okay, here are the blurbs. Yeah, say the blurbs.

We got Andy Cohen. Huge star. Casey Wilson. One of the most iconic people love her Kate Bear hello

number one New York Times bestseller Kate Bear there you go I'm gonna skip one Linda Pellegrino Danny's mom yes and

a huge wall of text from Rachel Lindsay and can I just say I just want to put out there into the world Rachel you're invited on Lost Cult

she has to come on. She's so good. She's smart. She's funny. She's everything. And she loves Bravo, too. She loves Bravo. And I will just say, the press day we did for Adore from Queens season two was long and sort of like, okay, we're going to do what next?

Okay, great. And it was just me on Zooms all day. Not that fun. But when Extra came on. Oh, baby. And I saw that it was Rachel Lindsay. I said, oh my God, Rachel. Can you imagine?

Like, she's the kind of person on the red carpet who's like, hey, it's me, Rachel Lindsay. And the celebrities are like, girl, I know. Did you ever see the interview she did with Rihanna where Rihanna's like excited to see Rachel? Oh my God. Can you imagine? Rihanna's favorite celebrities are like Rachel Lindsay and Karen Huger. She'ser she's smart and heather gay good taste okay listen okay already we've he's sort of broken through because it's like it's that it's that and just like that energy where it's like we have no no no don't apologize the book is called how do i unremember how do i unremember

this unfortunately true stories you can pre-order and that will be a smart decision everyone please welcome to your ears Danny Pellegrino! I'm so happy to be here. I'm excited. I'm a little nervous. I don't want to let the readers down. I don't want to disappoint anyone. How is that possible? Don't be nervous with us. Can I say with SJP, you totally

agree that her acting was phenomenal, but I was so excited about the dress moment too and I feel like the whole season I was waiting for something. Sort of like a weird look that was overd moment too. And I feel like the whole season, I was like waiting for sort of like a weird look that was like overdone and dramatic. And I felt like that was it for me. Yeah, absolutely. It all led up to that.

This is what I'm saying. It did make up for the like errors of the season. Yeah, of which there were a lot. Of which there were many. There were many. Do you feel good about the season? I want like a hundred more seasons, but I thought it was batshit insane.

There was a lot of stuff that I felt like that was just dropped. Like I was thinking the other day about- The alcoholism. The alcoholism. Do you remember at Big's funeral when like his- His secretary? What was that?

It was like they- I thought that was going to be something that played in. Like there was a secret mistress or a kid or something. Yeah, yeah. And maybe it will down the road, but that was like another one of those things where it's like, oh, what happened to that? What the fuck happened to that? Yeah, they. And maybe it will down the road, but that was like another one of those things where it's like, oh, what happened to that? What the fuck happened to that?

Yeah, they really featured her entrance into that funeral and it was like, they really made a deal out of it, which makes me feel like maybe they didn't know exactly where they were going, which is like,

how could that be true? How could that be true? But even to have the ash, the last time you saw the ashes was episode two and then they, it came back roaring episode 10. Like, I'm like, it's- The timeline 10 like i'm like it's the timeline was

so fucked up it's a weird syncopation on the on the stories yeah a little bit but overall i i truly stand by this yeah perfect season i mean it was perfect season and also it kept us talking yeah and didn't it make you feel like i feel like we're all starved for shows about older women yeah it was like we all just wanted to talk about it and yes a lot of it was crazy to me and bad and all of those things but it's like i we need more stories about these older women because it's like we all are craving it obviously everyone's talking about the show right yeah i also think like you know another thing is once it got to the end and like i guess the big conversation piece of the season was say it it with me, Che. Che. So when the final episode was over, I sort of turned to myself in the mirror and I said, I think they know Che is cringe.

You know what I mean? Because the pilot of it all, also Sara Ramirez belting out that song. Beach Boys, yeah. Whenever a non-singer in a show is played by a singer and they have to do a number, I'm always like- They can't sing bad. No. It reminded me of Alison Williams in and girls do you remember when she did kanya it was like that's the kind of feeling i got when she started doing the beach what was it what did it was i

wish they could all could be california girls just like oh my god that was that was tough for me yeah that was tough i think if you would take out the chase stuff, I think I would like it. I think I would think it was perfect almost. Yeah. Yeah. Leave in Bobby Lee, like the Bobby Lee, like Jackie and Carrie, just like being like, Carrie being like, oh, I loved that little interaction where she's like, we can't be site-specific friends. Yeah.

I was like, oh, I, you know, like you, everyone has that thought about someone like at work or something. I was like, that relationship is really cute. And then Franklin, the podcast producer, I loved that. He was so hot. He was so hot. Great. And I knew he was going to be.

That first episode when they showed that glance, I was like, yeah, he's got to play a role. They can't be an extra. And he's too good looking. See, but that's good threading. That was a good, because it was. That was very good threading. It was subtle. It was like, you see him looking at her and he's interested in the first couple episodes.

And like, he's there the whole time. And then their chemistry in that elevator. I was like, you see him looking at her and he's interested in the first couple episodes. And like, he's there the whole time. And then their chemistry in that elevator. I was like, whoa. And that is very Begin Again Taylor Swift vibes. It's Begin Again Taylor Swift vibes. And I immediately went and saved that song to Spotify. It's The Paradise In Love With You. It came out in like 2003.

And it made me feel like I was on a party drug. Bowen, did you save that other song that Che Diaz did? Which could be California Girls? Did you save that? I did. I did. I hadn't heard it before. When they said Hollywood called bitches, I'm making a pilot.

I was like, first of all. With Tony Danza. With Tony Danza. With Tony Danza. The new Roseanne, but the good one from the 80s. What is that? What is that? What is that? And then for the comedy pilot to be a live taping of a special still, that's not a, how is that serialized? None of it.

This is what we're saying. Like, I think they know, the writers knew that this was going to be fully unintelligible. But what about the podcast of it all where it's like they're taking the live caller thing? Like, I don't think they knew that most podcasts don't do the live call. Right. And they're fully in, like, a very serious XM type studio where it's like, it's getting

radio show, and you can tell they wrote it like radio show. And yes, it's true that you can take live calls for a podcast. I just would like to confirm out there and sort of break the fourth wall and say, you can do it, but it's not done. People don't really do it. Yeah fourth wall and say you can do it. But like, it's not done. Yeah, people don't really do it. Yeah, just say it's SiriusXM.

Yeah, say it's a radio show. But you know, they were so hard to say podcast. But all along, I wanted Carrie to be the voiceover of the show with the podcast. And I wanted her to be solo with the podcast. And I'm like, oh, I'm excited now going forward. It could be just Carrie. I also love the trans rap. I want more

Hari oh my god this is what happened I watched Hari Neff be this rabbi I was like oh my god

she's being so good in this yeah and then I went to Instagram and she had posted this beautiful block of text about like how full circle this was

and how like she like moved to New York with that fantasy like so many people do she was amazing and you could tell she was having fun yeah the show like you could see there was like a sparkle to her that was like i'm on sex in this oh my god sparkle with sema too like i've loved the sema scenes all season i like sema she also got railed by a hot fucking guy that

guy's tragic hot yeah he was in the original too too. Was he? He was like a salesperson or something. He had lines, but he was in the original. Is this like an Easter egg that he eventually owns a club or something? I think he's playing a different character. Oh, interesting. Well, then bring back Bradley Cooper. Have him play someone else.

Is there space for Bradley Cooper in a show where we've discovered this new A-list hot guy in the elevator? Who do you want back from the original? Like next season? There's going to be a season two, right? John Slattery, I think would be great. You know, I kept feeling like

I thought the teacher when they flashed to him in the trailer I was like, oh, that's Berger. It looks like he could be like a brother or something, right? Yes, they look alike. I for some some reason thought i think it was you telling me like i think burgers coming back and i was like for some reason i was waiting for a cameo at the end yeah like somebody i thought it was gonna be aiden aiden yeah aiden aiden it was giving that

aiden was gonna come and they also teased in the in the promo like her turning around and looking and seeing someone and I thought of course I was so hard for Samantha but it's not going to happen and now Sarah Jessica Parker has an interview

that she pretty much confirms like she's not coming back like that that off camera conversation they had was their way of wrapping it up was their way of letting us the audience know

the characters have gotten closure but samantha will not return which i think hurts it's really hurtful yeah i even just a little appearance and i'm i thought they handled it really well with the text messages like i liked that yeah and i hope they at least keep doing it but also if they lean too far into it'll get really annoying knowing that we're never getting a Kim. Yeah. I would leave it now. I immediately, because I think I was also waiting for Aiden, I watched

just the scene in the market from Sex in the City 2 where they see each other again. Yeah. Which was the same her turning around looks. So I guess they couldn't have done that again. Right, but I don't know. I was kind of craving it, and I watched it back. Craving Yusuf Aydin.

It was a good moment. Craving Yusuf Aydin. And whatever, the second movie, we all know what we think about it, but that scene is great. They had the best chemistry. They did. I mean, just the way he would look at her, and that, to me, was always Carrie's one.

Yeah. I was always T-Maden, too. Yeah. to me was always carrie's one yeah i was always team aiden too yeah yeah yeah it was always an asshole to her he was big was an asshole to her aiden treated her like a queen but i guess like the thing that aiden has that is like self-respect like no i'm not gonna go back to this person that like really hurt me yeah yeah yeah which is probably helpful i don't know that carrie deserved Aiden no I think that you're right about that but um I

and then guess what like I watched the next scene in the movie and like Samantha was there well Samantha was there and like I was like god this is

this is painful this is painful to watch like what she was just so good in that role and it's it's hard there's no one

could ever replace Kimmy Cattrall in that role no no and like Cola Scola shared like a clip of,

because they've been watching like old Sex and the City from the beginning, and like early seasons. It literally is like, if you think about Samantha Jones, like the stock line that you're like not even sure she really says is, let me tell you about his cock. But the clip that Cole Escola sent was literally Samantha going, let me tell you about his cock. And I'm like, this is so iconic.

Well, the thing is, like, imagine, imagine like auditions for that part. Like just to think of that having existed at one time on the page without her is crazy. You know what I mean? It feels like she just walked in, like with the characterization, like Samantha Jones is so alive. You know what I mean?antha jones is so alive you know what i mean and it's weird because you know probably for a while like i haven't watched the first season

in a long time but she probably was like one dimensional and then like there's so much like it's her performance is giving dimensionality even without what they did with her character which i think was really smart and she talks about how you know well back in the good days when she was like excited to talk about the show she talks about how when she was given the cancer storyline she was like don't punish the character with sickness because she's free and because she's like has a has a full sex life and they were like we're not going to do that and, like, in terms of shows that turn to cancer as a storyline, that was one of the more elegant and really, like, complicated versions of that, which I think was great

for her. You know, she was so much of the comedy of the original, too. And I feel like this series was obviously meant to be a little bit heavier. But I think if you go back and watch the original and you take out the Samantha character, there's not as much humor in it. She was the comedy in it. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I'm really excited for a second season because I think now we can get back to it, the lightness.

We're more comfortable, too. We know our bearings a little bit. Yeah, exactly. Okay, we can enjoy it a little more. Yeah, exactly. bearings a little bit yeah exactly okay we can enjoy it a little more yeah exactly like i i've re-familiarized myself with like the nature of how it can sometimes get a little weird and surreal and like these characters come in and out and i also am hopeful that the che and miranda thing just crashes and burns but i kind of feel like they're gonna lean in more to the che of it all like i feel like it's almost now they got a a point to prove. I don't know. And maybe Zara

wouldn't even come back. Yeah. Right. So they just finally came out with a publicized statement. Oh, I heard about this. What did they say? Well, they were just like, you know, I'm aware of the response to this character, and

all I know is that Che is not there to be liked and all this stuff and I think they asked they asked them like what would Che say if Che like knew whatever like a meta on meta question but like what would Che think about all this response to

them and Sara was like they would just like laugh it off or something and I'm like see like that's such see like I don that's such, see, like, I don't think, which makes me think that, like, I don't think Saur was in on the conversation around, like, in on, like, that portrayal of Che as, like, a quote-unquote, like, annoying comedian. Right. You know?

Right. Well, that's, this is the thing, is it's, like, the only, obviously Che is, like, a glaring thing about the show where I just rolled my eyes so hard every time they were on screen because of the things they would say. I mean, it wasn't at the character itself. No, no, no. It seemed like it got deeper and deeper into the hole. If it's not.

And the final stage was like. Yes. Hollywood called, what was the line? Hollywood called bitches on making a pilot. Which is like. And these people are in the industry. They work on the show. So they understand you don't throw a party for making a pilot. Which is like, and these people are in the industry. They work on the show. So they understand you don't throw a party for making a pilot.

You throw a party if it gets like picked up. The other thing I think the writers were in on is when Chase said, I'm a narcissist. It was like a flat out like, I'm a narcissist. And sort of add that line of like, here I am saying I'm a narcissist. It's like, they have to be in on this. Yeah. Yeah. And I also think, what else was there?

It was Tony Danza though. I want to know what he thought of it. Did he watch it? Was he consulted? Do they have to? That's one thing I want to know. Like, do they have to reach out to Tony and be like,

hey, we're referencing you in the show? Cause it's Tony. You have to have respect. I did. I did on the floor at work. Colin was there and I was like, you were mentioned on the, on and just like that the other night. I like that Colin was there, and I was like, you were mentioned on Just Like That the other night.

I like that Joe's joke. And he was like, yeah, I don't get it. Like, real estate tease? So does that mean I, like, tease selling it or buying it? Like, he's like, I don't understand. Buying it. I know, I know. He didn't get it?

Well, he, like, got it, but he was kind of like, that's not, he was, like, giving notes on the line, which I'm like, no, that's Colin. And I think for him to be referenced on that show like he has every right to be like what yeah it must be bizarre i think um i think tony i'm sure tony loved it yeah i mean i bet tony liked it i mean i had such a crush on tony danza oh my god of course one of the first early crushes who's the boss tony so He really, and he also has that like, definitely fucks energy. Oh yeah. You know what I mean? Like he gives like, it's a good time.

Yeah. I don't know, I'm horny. How much would you give though to see, or to listen to a podcast, like a recap podcast of Kim Cattrall and Pat Field doing like a series? Like I would pay every amount of money to just hear the two of them break down each episode.

Yeah, just like Willem and Alaska drag race vibes. And Darren. Get Darren in there. Darren, yes. I mean, it's so interesting. I still haven't seen Emily in Paris season two. I haven't watched it either. I have not watched.

I think I watched. You know what the weird thing about Emily in Paris is? Everyone was like, it's so fun to watch for reasons of they dragged it. But I was like, see, I couldn't even get into it for that. Something didn't work for me with Emily in Paris in terms of an I can enjoy it. It felt like a moment in time for me. It was like the early pandemic or whatever. It was like, yeah, I'm sitting enjoying dragging this a little bit.

And also enjoying it on another level. But yeah, the moment passed and then season two came out. I'm like, I don't really care anymore. It was enough. I did enough. I had enough. You did your time. I think overall, we can say that in Just Like That was the television event of the year.

It feels like it was over before it even began. I know. I do already miss it so much. Wasn't it so fun to just have something to talk about with people? Like, it was so exciting each week. All we've done on this podcast is talk about the show. Oh, it's given us a lot of good- So much content.

I mean, it's really beautiful, huh? It's like the circle of life. How the podcast and the show gave this podcast, podcast material. X, Y, and us.

X, Y, and us. Oh my God. I forgot. Title of app. Title of app. Title of app.

Or should it be? No, because, because we can't, we can't be like, I'm Carrie Bradshaw and this is Sex and the City. No, no,

no, no, no, X, Y, and us is the title of this app. It can be, I'm Carrie Bradshaw and this is Sex and the City. No, no, no, no. No, X, Y, and Us is the title of this album. It can be, I'm Danny Pellegrino and this is everything. I need to get a woke button. Oh, God. That was tough. That was tough.

I mean, there was so much that was tough. And then at the end when they had rehearsed a song and said, I'm going to Hollywood, bitches. And Miranda was like, I'm going to LA. I felt like they have to know it's cringe and Miranda's like regressing. Did you like Miranda's hair change? Did you? I liked it. I did find it jarring for

them to cut immediately to her waiting outside with Brady. It felt like either a time I couldn't tell that it was a time trip it felt like an alternate timeline you know this is that's how all of it felt though they played with time and space every episode yeah three months went a year right right right like how much it was like five years later i was like what the fuck but this is this is my thing about the hair is like i'm i'm

unsure of what the comment is they're making there because the first episode when when when charlotte who we haven't even spoken about says to her i like the red go back to the red and miranda's like i'm aging gracefully please like i'm i like this i feel good and i was like yeah miranda's right like she does look amazing she looks great i adjusted to it and then all of a sudden she has the red hair and i'm like what is the regression maybe yeah there's something yeah something that i can't put my finger on with miranda that i feel like needs to get a little bit more hammered in in the second season because thematically i'm i'm just confused with miranda right like i think miranda always tried to follow like this guideline of life and then this season they sort of blew it up and then at the end at least i think

at the end maybe they were trying to comment like, Miranda can make up her own guidelines. She doesn't have to keep gray hair because she always believed as a woman you have to age with the gray hair. You can have the red hair if you want. But she's also blowing up her life. All of her choices are like

not okay. You know? I wonder what happens to Steve in the second season. I wonder if that, obviously... Yeah, you do a good Steve. Yeah, the Steve impression is really good on the podcast. I mean, I want more for Steve. Don't we all?

What if Steve just got, like, a smoke show new wife, and, like, we see him fuck the shit out of her? That's what I want for Steve. Yeah. And he's like, I remember how to fuck a girl. That was more like... That was good, too. That's what I want for Steve. Yeah. And he's like, I remember how to fuck a girl. That was more like, that was some sort of gremlin.

It's no, you described it on, on your podcast. It's, um, it's like Dorinda and Carol Channing. Yes. Yes.

It's, it's all of that. Um, so speaking of your pod. Yes. Now you cover the Real Housewives franchise. I sure do. What you've told us when you came in was that you've just seen

the finale of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Well, no, not the finale. It's the penultimate episode. Oh, it's not the finale. How could it not be the finale? I'm so confused. There's been a million episodes. Well, when this episode, when this podcast comes out, there'll be a finale left. Okay. Yes, that's right. Does that make sense? Yes, but we're, Yes, but we're recording this

before Sunday's episode on the 6th? February 6th. Yeah, right. So the penultimate episode though, I mean, there's still it opens in Zion. Of course, last week we had Lisa Barlow forever. They've been in Zion for a million years. Sorry, keep going. So Lisa Barlow's behind. She's doing the hot mic moment. She's calling her friend a

garbator and all that stuff. And it opens with that and it just keeps getting more and more chaotic it like it's everything is crazy there's lisa takes off her top and she's just running around in a sports brassiere like yelling about her best friend of 10 years being a whore you know running around the house they're all fighting lisa's trying to pack her bags it's just like pure chaos so we you would say that the hot mic moment bleeds into life keeps going i i expected with the zion trip every week i thought they they can't heighten anymore right like yeah they're gonna go downhill and it's like every week it gets crazier and crazier all the women are completely unhinged yeah they hate each other they don't like whitney's like a dog with a bone with the

meredith and the memorial thing yeah father thing. And so she just keeps going. And like Meredith is like, she's like, I'm not going to tell you. It's my fucking father. You know, she's like, my fucking father. She's really losing her mind. And it just keeps going. And it's so funny because in this week's episode, Lisa just without, with the bra, it's like a sports bra, but she's just running around. And I feel like she finally gave up trying to like look normal on camera.

And I really think that Lisa was most mad about the Taco Bell comment. Which, oh, my God. She's trying to make it seem like she's most mad about, like, Meredith said that she wasn't a good friend or something like that. But Lisa's very clearly triggered by the fact that Mary said she doesn't give the kids nutrients and she gives them Taco Bell. Which, by the way, you, your husband, your children, they need nutrients. You need nutrients. You need nutrients.

That is almost you smell like hospital. I would call it like, yeah. If you smell like hospital is an A plus, like thank God it really launched the franchise. You need nutrients is B, B plus. I would give it an A minus. A minus. You need nutrients?

I've always been anti-Mary, but hearing her say you need nutrients made me, my sister, and my mother scream. You need nutrients because you know what it is? It's not just... It is very personal. It's like you don't feed your family correctly. You're a bad mom.

It's like you hear it, and I'm not surprised to hear that she can't let it go. Because it's the thing that you hear, and then you think about it, and you're like, wait, what the fuck did she say to me? Like, she says I'm a bad mother. Bad mother. Wait, can I spoil something? Yes, please. The listeners will have seen this.

But Lisa, then there's another scene after she gets back from Zion, and she's around the family, with her family, and she got a grill. And she's cooking asparagus wrapped in bacon. Oh my god! And she's like, she's telling the camera, I love my grill. Like, I just love my grill.

And she's cooking for the kids. And so it's like very clear. That's what triggered her was like the Taco Bell. She doesn't, I don't think she really gives a shit about Meredith. It's all the Taco Bell thing, but she can't say like, I'm so fucking pissed. This woman said,

I like Taco Bell. That's a really, really good observation. And I, it's something that would not have been that obvious to me. Yeah. That's really good. I mean, you know what?

You know what really struck me about the whole thing is like, you could tell that chemically something happened because her voice changed. I know. Like, when she was, I hate Meredith. Like, when she was saying that on the hot mic. Fucking whore. Yeah. She was like shaking with anger. Garbage whore.

Garbage whore. Fucked half New York. When she was getting into all that, I was like, wow, this is like a true unmasking. And to hear you say like she stopped trying to posture at all for the cameras, which I wrestle with whether or not I feel she's being her authentic, insane self, like with the prom of it all and everything or if she is posturing and I think we now know the answer we now know the answer it reminds me of when Erica would cry

on Beverly Hills behind a closed door and like you you would hear her sob in a way that you're like this is not how people cry

in front of other people does that make sense like that was Erica's voice like dropped when she was crying too I forget which episode.

The thing that pissed me off with Beverly Hills, though, is they didn't go behind the bathroom door or follow it afterwards. It just ended with Erica crying behind the door. And at least on Salt Lake City, they're like, no, you guys are still filming. They filmed for two hours after that. Yeah. And it's like, we're just going to keep going. Yeah. The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. Who is your favorite housewife that you've had on Everything Iconic? Because you've had so many of them on. You really have. I do love Heather Gay a lot. I think she's just a normal, wonderful human being. I love her.

I'm trying to think. Karen Huger is a wonderful human being. I love her. I'm trying to think. Karen Huger is a dream to me. I love Karen Huger. She's just such good TV. I never want to stop following Karen Huger. She's truly wonderful. She's special.

Very special. All the Potomac women are. I mean, not all of them, but I've said this before. That's my favorite franchise because it feels like i i would like to be friends with most of the women on that show i love dr wendy too i know you just had dr wendy on we loved her she was she was really really cool yeah you know and we almost had whitney rose on and i mean the tea is that we were in the dms with whitney like we had gone back and forth on twitter a bunch and we were going to have whitney on we were in the DMs with Whitney. We had gone back and forth on Twitter a bunch, and we were going to have Whitney on. We were really excited because we love Whitney.

And she was going to be our second ever housewife. And then she DMed us and she goes, oh, I'm so sorry. I really want to come on. You guys will be the first thing I do. But Bravo has asked the cast of Salt Lake to not do any outside press right now. And we figured that it was right after the Mary.

We thought it was a Mary thing because they were like, oh, they must not want anyone to comment on Mary's absence at the reunion because they don't know how they're handling it yet. Three days later, the Jenny Facebook post came out. I don't know that they were trying to get ahead of that. I don't,

I think they have known that this on a, on a Reddit that like it was going to drop. I think a lot of it is just trying to shield, which I, I smart even though i love talking to these women i think it's smart to kind of keep them under lock because it's like all this stuff that's playing on the season i don't think any of us expected i think i went into the season thinking we had the jen shah of it all and that's like a which was enough i know yeah and it's like that's nothing here or and then the mary church stuff is sort of like a c-plot too yeah it's like so i think it's good that we're not knowing exactly what's going on um and i'm excited about there

i heard things i've heard about the reunions like meredith is like goes you know it's completely insane yeah which i understand because it seems like they just keep poking at her well what i heard was that they watched they had watched the rest of the episodes the day before. Because Andy said on Watch What Happens Live with Meredith and Bridget Everett. Yes. That like, he looks at the camera and he's like, well, just for the people at home, Meredith, like all the women watched that episode the day before the reunion. So what you will see at the reunion is a very, and I think he said, raw response to that. And Meredith went,

yes. Raw. I mean, come on, she didn't even know that her friend had said all that. I know. Imagine watching it. Of course. And I will say Meredith

represented herself very well on Watch What Happens Live, like moments after. Did you guys watch? I did. She's very poised. Very poised. The thing about Meredith is,

like, she is so unbothered in her day-to-day. So to see her spiral on the show like this is so fun. I don't think it's fun. I'm concerned. I'm enjoying it. I'm watching her be like... I mean, I want her to be okay.

Yeah. She seems okay. Yeah, she's fine. But I watch her and I go, she's more agitated and perturbed than, like, Jen Shah at this point. Mm-hmm. But, okay, let's all remember her dad died, like, right before. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I think sometimes as viewers, because it's, like, a week-to-week thing and we're watching over the course of a couple months, it's like, for her in real time, her dad died maybe three weeks ago or something. Totally, totally. I would be a fucking nutcase. Mess. Yes, yes, yes. Like, a nutcase. Yes, yes. And then have to film and all these people are then saying

you made up something about your father's memorial or whatever. I would fucking lose it. And she also, she also like, you remember from the early episodes,

had a very difficult time with the passing. Like it wasn't a thing even though he was sick for a while. And she says like, you know, I lost him emotionally

and mentally a while ago, but I didn't realize how difficult a time I would have to lose him physically. And she was devastated. So to see her triggered by this is unsurprising. And I do think that you're right. We forget in terms of proximity, I think because we're also watching Injust like that, which goes back in time five, six years. We can't understand. In reverse. We can't understand. In reverse. We as viewers.

We're not expected to. And the crossover there is, sometimes I forget what universe I'm in, like Am I in House 5 or Injust like that, because both are often surreal that I forget what time in space I'm in. Yellowjack gets you understand. Magritte.

It's very Magritte. It's surreal. It's Lady Gaga on the press tour. Yes. Yes. It sends memory. Yeah. We are really in a surreal time.

And I'm not saying anything. I think this season of Salt Lake City is one of the greatest seasons we've ever had. Okay. Absolutely. Ever. Ever. Absolutely. I trust.

I think between the three of us, I'm probably the least literate or versed in the franchise. You don't watch every franchise. I don't watch every franchise. And I feel like I need to correct that. But there's just such a back. So, okay. I get asked this all the time. And I'm like, I don't know what to tell you because I'm not the person to tell you. And I'm sure you've been asked this a million times.

What is your, like, general entry point for someone who wants to watch it? It kind of depends on, like, what you like. You know, I love New York season one, two, three. To me, season three of New York City is, like, my peak. Okay. To me, it also scary island it was the first housewives trip too which is like kind of set the template for what these would become and so and it also was luann singing a song for the first time so you get a lot of like those

these tropes that we all just accept now which are fucking crazy yeah but you get a lot of that in there the early seasons of atlanta to me are like atlanta is absolutely incredible when it's good yeah when it was good it was it was just the best yeah and i always like atlanta but like those early seasons to me sheree nini kim like those people bebopping around town it's just like the best it's incredible and then jersey with like the family stuff those early seasons like when melissa came in three, that season three opener is like one of the greatest hours of television ever. The christening. Yeah.

Do you watch Jersey? I forget. Here and there, I'll watch it. It is my favorite. Yeah. So now it's back, and it's going to be a really good season. Okay, great.

I'll start watching it. And actually, I had never seen it at all. And then I had COVID like a month ago, and I was like, well, I'm going to watch. And I don't know why I avoided it. I think because I'm from Long Island, it's like a month ago and i was like well i'm gonna watch and i don't know why i avoided i think because i'm from long island it's like a little too real i felt i was like i'm going in italian you notice you know those people a little bit like well i'm not italian but i was around so many italian people so when i see dolores catania like she's such a warm spot for me like she reminds me of all my mother's friends like you know what i mean and i'm

imagining dolores is a fucking dream i love dolores yeah yeah you've had her yeah she's i mean she reminds me of all my cousins and stuff yeah it's like a lot of those women though i think so like that's that's what it is it's like it's very like it reminds me of my mother i think yeah that's crazy friends and like so but but jersey when it gets truly crazy, is insane because they don't – it's almost like they don't know the cameras are there in a way that the other women on other franchises don't. Like, they seem to not give a fuck. Atlanta, too. I've been complaining because I want new blood on Jersey because they don't change up the cast a lot. But on the flip side of that, I do think there's, like, a benefit in having these women there year after year after year.

I do, too. Because they develop a stronger bond and so like the relationships can can break and bend more than someone coming in for the first time a first season person who is going to leave in a season or two yeah i feel like there's a deeper thing happening but everyone talks about the jersey table flip which is of course what put that sort of on the map but i think that christening is even better like i think that basically it's like like and this is where you meet melissa this is where you meet melissa and joe gorga who's essentially two on the call sheet honestly right teresa's brother joe gorga and so basically

they have a christening for their son and teresa is you don't know this but teresa is pissed that melissa is on the show. Like, pissed. Like, whether it's for ego reasons or she didn't want to fight with her family on camera and was mad at the producers. They get into a fight and they make a war zone out of this christening. And it's crazy. It's like a Shakespearean operetta. I don't know. It's so, so good.

And Jersey's also got that family vibe, too, where it's like when Melissa and Teresa are fighting, it's like they're an actual family. Or with Kathy, when Kathy and Rosie, there was all these big fights between a family. And it's like, even if they're putting it on for the show, it's like that's their real-life family. I don't know. There's a deeper feeling when you watch it. And so, I mean, that's when Housewives is at its best, is when it feels Shakespearean. Right. And it often does i i think yeah i

mean if if the template is soap operas then oftentimes on soap operas it it is about a family you know what i mean like so like i think that that's what i like about and it's kind of getting to know who i would have been like in the 80s and 90s like i would have been someone who watched soaps i think right because this i i just enjoy these dynamics so much and like the the fact that it can only go so far really and then when it goes a little further like when someone does get pushed down the stairs in a soap opera is sort of akin to like when you see monique and candace get into it and that thing you're like yeah it's so it's just interesting and i do think there is something to and i think that that's some franchises really fail.

Like, for example, last season of New York, because I don't want to watch women who don't know each other talk about something. About race, for example. Right, right. And if it feels like they wouldn't hang out normally, I know that we have to pretend a little bit. But on Orange County, I'm watching, and I'm like, none of you would be friends at all. No. It's so, we're so forced to try to pretend you guys like each other, and we can clearly see that you don't. But on Orange County, I'm watching and I'm like, none of you would be friends at all. No. We're so forced to try to pretend you guys like each other.

And we can clearly see that you don't. Yeah. They basically put this Patty Harrison character named Noella on the show this year. On Jersey? On OC. And it's just like, what is going on? Sure, sure, sure. It's just funny. And trying to see Shannon Ben to pretend like she's friends with Noella.

And Noella at least is bringing something to the show. But it's like, I don't think Shannon is friends with her, but we're pretending. But to what end? To what end? I will say that Ultimate Girls Trip, I have not finished it, but I find it to be a great entry point for people. Because you are getting like a Seafood Tower sampling of like all the best. I love that analogy. You know, like it's like all the best that analogy you know like it's like

it's like every like all the best people and then it does fill you in it gives you context on like what the dynamics are and like you do kind of get a little bit of the melissa teresa yes dynamic yeah in there the remote you get all the ramona stuff like it's like a little bibliography and i kind of really enjoyed that yeah and to hear luann talking about like her cameos and stuff to me it was just like, that was... The amount of money she makes on cameo, did you get to that? I haven't yet.

She claims to make like $100,000. A year? Yeah, on cameo. And I think, did she talk about how much time she spends? She's like, you gotta do... She's like, well, I sit down and... Your Lu is like a Sesame Street character, but... It's really just Cookie Monster.

Money can't buy you it really it really feels like glue to me when you do it also I have to say I have to commend you on I think my favorite sound effect of any podcast that like that comes in when something spooky happens

some you reference something the other day like something on Salt Lake City I think it was like Seth's behavior or something like who's truly crazy. He does something, or like someone does something and you just

hit the... Well, I literally almost drove off the road. I have to entertain myself, because I'm recording alone, so I'm always using the soundboard. And when I got that soundboard, a couple people complained early on, and I remember somebody said like, somebody said, I listen to your podcast

so fun. You know, people say they listen to your podcast to fall asleep to or something. I'm like, well, somebody said, I listened to your podcast. You know, people say they listen to your podcast to fall asleep to or something. I'm like, well, you're going to have to listen to it during the day. If it scares you awake, then like, it's just,

it is what it is. Not all podcasts are ASMR. Like you can't, you can't, that can't be your relationship. Like I got to entertain myself. I'm playing with, I'm having fun.

And if you want to come on board and have fun too, you can come on board. If not, I get it. Are you reading off of notes? Like, are you just kind of crazy chicken scratch? so perfect but then but that's like mostly like the that's how like the the connective tissue gets like laid out as like you're just

kind of reading this and you're like okay and you're just kind of waxing yeah and i try to go off like if if i'm talking about something i don't know a week ago i was talking and beethoven's second came up and i just like 10 minutes on on Beethoven second you really went off on Beethoven second and also have you remember the second Beethoven movie? I couldn't believe the daughter's name is Rice the daughter's name is Rice

like the starch yes I'm familiar so if Beethoven second comes to my mind then I'm going to spend 10 minutes talking about Beethoven second if you want to enjoy that, come on board. If not, I appreciate it. I mean, it really is a skill.

Like it's an art. I don't think either of us do that. Greta does it great. She does. Our friend Greta does it wonderfully. Certain people do it really well. And I don't think either of us do. It was too hard for me to book people all the time.

It was like, I got to a point. I was like, I'm just too tired. You know, I'm a one man band over there. So it's like, I'm just, I'm tired of like going around people's publicists or directly or whatever. And people cancel. I'm like, you know what, whatever.

I think it's not, it's really great though. So you often will do like a 30 minute-ish recap and then have like an interview, which feels like what, 20, 25 minutes? Yeah, like I have people on that I like. And you know, if I want to have someone on, I love having guests on. Yeah. But I don't try that I like, and if I want to have someone on, I love having guests on. Yeah.

But I don't try. I do it on my own, and then if there's time, I have a guest. If I want to have a guest, I do. Or I'll throw a bonus episode if I want to have a guest on. I'll just do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You do the video element, too, which I always feel like would be a good idea for us. But I love the video element.

All of it is too much work. It's a lot of work. And then cut in like a social media clip, and it's just a lot of work. I'm tired. And you got to put your face on for that. You do. I was leaving the house to come here and my boyfriend's like, you're wearing that. And I was like, yeah, he said I look like a farmer or something.

I was like, they're not recording video. I was like, you look great. Your boyfriend's name is Matt too, right? Yeah. So many of us out there. It's one of the most popular names. It's actually Rural Culture. What's your middle name? Rural Culture number 89, Richard. What's your middle name? I names. It's actually Rural Culture. What's your middle name?

Rural Culture number 89, Richard. What's your middle name? I don't have one. Okay. Yeah. What's yours? Michael. Michael.

Yeah. Daniel Michael Pellegrino. Author. Boring. No. No. Pellegrino is, oof. It just, and you know what?

It's also a sparkling water. I know. But it just, but it is literally. I wish it was related to the water, though. I don't have any of that. Well, don't worry about that. No, that would be like a weight on your consciousness. But I feel like Pellegrino,

it's an effervescent name. I get lifted. Wait, can I say I was listening to your last week's episode? I'm interrupting. No, no, please. You guys were talking about Katy Perry and the Great American Songbook. Yeah, the Great Global Songbook.

What would be... Adam and I just was shouting through the screen as i was listening like to me teenage dream yes like one of the greatest pop songs ever made like i think that's a flawless masterpiece didn't it's one of max martin's favorite song best song sorry no i was saying didn't you know that the second you heard it what teenage dream was forever yeah i remember where i was yeah i was in my bedroom at home at my parents' house. Summer after freshman year of college. It's timeless.

It's timeless. You know what's crazy is it's like, Katie, that album, the Teenage Dream album, is front to back. And what's weird is her recent albums are decidedly not. So is it a thing of like are decidedly not. So is it a thing of like, was it Dr. Luke who wrote that song? I'm not sure. Maybe. And sometimes I'm just like, gosh, like we gotta get more people on the map who are really brilliant pop songwriters. Because I just wonder how some of these songs on Witness get there.

Sure. You know what I mean? Like sometimes I'm just like how did that how did this make the final track list not to drag i'm just saying like when you know an artist is capable of a front to back teenage dream moment it's like maybe and maybe there is something to like when a pop star does that front to back pop thing where it's like hooks hooks hooks they want to get more experimental. They want to like be sonically challenge themselves.

But I really just want the hits. I mean, I feel like I have no understanding of like how labels step in and are like, there should be a song that's like this and like this and like this.

Like I feel like that kind of intervenes and shapes a lot of it. I don't know. I really don't know. I think that that's probably a lot of it. And it's just like

an imperial phase thing where it's like, you know like they can do whatever they want but only within a certain window you know and i don't believe actually the teenage dream album is great but to me teenage dream the song is is timeless more so than the other songs sure i love those other hits but like what do you mean hummingbird heartbeat shouldn't be in the great global song what was the like the end singles like the towards the end of the cycle there was like a couple that were like wide awake they did really i i liked wide away i love what you're saying you're saying before um the like the one that got away was not my one that got away um et pearl wasn't a single like to me those are good but not forever songs teenage dream when i'm

100 years old i'm like that's the fucking best song ever. I feel the way about We Found Love, too. I feel like that song, to me, is a perfect song. It's like Since You've Been Gone. There you go. It's like Since You've Been Gone. I also arguably love My Life Would Suck Without You almost as much as Since You've Been Gone.

The title for me is tough, but it's such a fun song. It's a great song. But the thing that bothers me about My Life Would Suck Without You and that era is that I know how depleted she was. She didn't love it. She didn't love it. And that was following My December, which was like such a low point for her because they bailed on her so hard. So I feel like all I ever wanted that album is like her like white flag being like, yeah, whatever. Take it.

What you want to do, we can do. And that's how we got my life would suck without you and um i do not hook up right which was but people like katie perry all goes back around there you go um danny should we ask you the question we have to ask danny the question danny what is that the culture that made you say culture is for you uh rosie o'donnell show oh i know people are i talk about rosie o'donnell show all the time and i know it's probably exhausting for people but to me,

that was it for me. I remember watching it after school with my grandma, with my mom. I loved the Rosie O'Donnell show. She was the first influencer. I'm obsessed with it. So I thought it was

a perfect talk show. She loved pop culture as we do, you know, and it showed and I loved her. Wow. Did you guys watch it?

Oh, almost every single day. I remember like, it was like, some days I would say a prayer to be sick so I could stay home the next day and watch Rosie O'Donnell and also got to give it up to Regis and Kelly. Love Kelly. Yeah. I mean just like – I remember I always want to end The View, which I know is huge for you. Wait, can I interrupt you though and just say Kelly Ripa is underrated as a talk show host. And I don't think people give her the flowers that she deserves.

You're right. Because she is so charming. And I think she makes it look effortless in a way that people think she's just okay. Or that she just doesn't get her flowers. And I think if you watch Kelly Ripa, she's so fucking good at it. But people don't give her the credit I think that she deserves. Right. Right.

I think it's the pairing of it all. I think it's that she's paired with someone, which is probably either her choice and, I don't know, but you're right. I completely agree. She's so good. I could talk about Tyra Banks for hours, too. Sit back because we've got a lot to talk about. Have you seen this video of hers where she's talking about everything

she eats in a day? Maybe. She describes this thing she does. Have we talked about this? No, I don't think so. Where she's like, she does this thing where she orders the same dish

from multiple restaurants. Like, let's say she wants a pad thai, a shrimp pad thai. She will order shrimp pad thai from six or seven different thai restaurants

in her area at the same time. She's like, I love doing this. She goes, I love doing this. I do this all the time. Don't you guys do this? Oh, my God. Six of the same dish from six different restaurants.

They all come to her house. And then she's like, and then we just sample them. And then we just figure out which one is the best. That's so Thai. It's so Thai. I guess it's fine. It's clever. It's such a waste of money. It's so Tyra. I guess it's fine. It's clever. It's just such a waste of money.

It's such a waste of money and food. And the fact that you don't see that you're coming across a certain way by saying, oh, I just get up from this. Don't you guys do this? It's crazy. But that's what we love about Tyra, isn't it? It's like, I want Tyra to not get any of it. Yeah, she's like and dressed like that in that she's Magritte Surreal.

I will share this. The hardest I've ever, I'm sorry, this is such a name drop again this the hardest i've ever i'm sorry this is such a name drop again the hardest i've ever seen lauren michaels laugh was we were at host dinners me and ego and chloe like you know on one side of the host dinner table like they're having a conversation inside but like the three of us i'm like i bring up the whole like rabies episode of the tire banks talk show and i was like describing it i like, she starts barking like a dog as if getting rabies means you turn into a dog. And then I turn and see Lauren burst out laughing.

Like it was the funniest thing he'd ever heard. He's like, he's like, what? Tyra should host. Tyra should host. Tyra should host.

Yeah, she should host. Oh my God. I need to, has she hosted before? Maybe. I don't know. That's a good question actually.

I don't think so. She's been on Mad TV for sure. I think she's definitely, no, no, no, that's not true.'t know. That's a good question, actually. I don't think so. She's been on Mad TV, for sure. I think she's definitely... No, no, no, that's not true. No, no, no. I'm thinking of her being on Fresh Prince, which is... Why am I...

No. That's another multi-cam comedy. Well, okay. So, I literally just almost said, we need Tyra Banks to come back into the conversation, completely forgetting that she is the host and executive producer of Dancing with the Stars, which is a train

wreck like you've never seen. It is Magritte's surreal to watch Tyra host that show because she is always wearing something insane and they have those crazy themes and like she'll dress up and like just to like

see them come back from commercial watch her find the camera and say we're back like it to just to like see them come back from commercial watch her find the camera and say we're back like it's just like whoa and the fans of Dancing with the Stars like hate her as a host

don't they my mom calls me every week and is like I don't like that Tyra on the show well she messes up all the time like one time she was like

we have our bottom two and I'm now being told that it's not the bottom two the card was wrong The car was wrong. And that was my fault. I love her. And now we're going to bring back someone I just said was safe.

And it's Mike the Situation or whoever the fuck. I'm so sorry, baby. And you're actually out. It's like what she puts them through because like something is wrong. Like some conk in the wheel is like not going. Like whether it's production or her but you can it's so funny because like you can literally feel the chaos behind

the cameras like no no no no no no they're just freaking out because she can't do it do you remember when she tried to fake her sickness on America's Next Top Model and she's like I'm just not really feeling really good and then she fucking like eats shit and like starts seizing on the floor I'm sorry I'm just

she's given us so many moments the Tyra Banks show And then she fucking eats shit and starts seizing on the floor. I'm sorry, I'm just... She's given us so many moments. She's given us so many moments. On the Tyra Banks show, or the fat suit, remember she walked around there? Or remember when she confronted her fear of dolphins

on the Tyra Banks show? Yeah. She is entertainment. Giving away Vaseline, just losing it. Her fucking shit, giving away Vaseline. Giving away Vaseline,

the Naomi Campbell interview. Yes. That show was wild. just losing it her fucking shit losing giving away vaseline giving me the naomi campbell interview yes like that show was wild that is actually an iconic television it was crazy yes it's an amazing episode when when she when she is telling naomi like and i want you to know that you hurt me and while i do forgive you that hurt will never go away and naomi just goes for me it's not that deep it's not that deep it's not that deep and then when they came back I remember like they came back from commercial on that and like she had just said like it's not that deep and I remember like

Naomi turned to her and she was like I want to apologize for what I said I validate you and I'm sorry and she like and you could tell that like producers had to step in and be like hey like even if you don't mean it, we have to have

conflict of resolution here. She came in just ready to be like, I'm so sorry. Imagine producing that show with her. Just like the chaos. I feel like the comparison is not terribly sophisticated,

but I feel like Tyra set up a lot of the high drinks, the tone of Wendy Williams. Yeah. Like, this, like, show where, like, the audience is, like, so, like, oh, my God! Like, the audience,

and now we can go back to Rosie. Like, with Rosie, it was always, like, you were watching this person, like, just be, like, so charming. And I think we eventually went into this era of daytime talk where, like, the hosts were fully unhinged. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like, that was not always the case.

Yeah. You know? Yeah, I think Rosie was, like, a watershed because she really was, like, she was so good at being herself that you genuinely felt that you knew her yes which i think is why when she started to pull back the curtain on like the darker parts of who she was like america felt like a little like weird about it was a different side of her yeah yeah and they weren't like people were not ready for that dimensionality she even used to say back in the talk show pre-talk show she was a stand-up comic and she would go around and she had stuff she would talk about

woody allen and like you know heavier topics and she would swear and all that stuff and i remember her saying when she did the talk show people would come see her do stand-up and people would walk out or people would because that was her bit before the talk show but for the talk show she was doing merv griffin and yeah yeah so she was doing a nice – it was a different side of her, but then we started to see these other sides, and some people liked it, some people didn't. But I also loved her on The View. I mean, to me, she was the best era of The View. The thing is – Which that's my – well, I know.

The View is huge for you. But that is Rosie, too. I mean, the thing is just like what – she, to me, is someone who needs to be by herself. Because other egos can't handle that smoke. You can't have Rosie and Whoopi, and they couldn't. If you read the book, The Ladies Who Punch, which was great, really fun. And it's just so clear that it really genuinely came down to ego and how much space gets taken up. And, like, even when they agree, it's like, no, I think that more.

You know? I think also Rosie has this quality where you hang on every, even if you disagree with her, I think you hang on what her opinion is on something. Yeah. And so when you have her in a panel, I think you're just sort of sitting there waiting for what she's going to say. Did you ever go to a taping of the show? I did, yeah. I went to a taping of The View right before COVID. Oh, great! Oh, The View. No, not Rosie. But it's my dream to be

one of those people on Rosie to introduce. Our friend Doug Wydick was that when he was a kid. He was like a Harry Potter obsessed. That was his thing. They brought him on because he was obsessed with Harry Potter. This is little Dougie Wydick from Boca Raton, Florida. This is Rosie now. I wanted that job so bad.

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What was the view experience like for you? Oh, it was fun. I went right pre-COVID. It was like Abby Huntsman, Whoopi, Megan, Sunny. And Sarah wasn't there at the time. She had been gone and hadn't come back yet. And then Meredith was filling in for Joy. So I got to be Meredith, who I love Meredith.

Vieira? Yeah. Oh my God. That's great. So she was there. But no, Joy. I love Joy. So I got to be Meredith, who I love Meredith. Vieira? Yeah. Oh my God, that's great. So she was there. But no, Joy, I love Joy. Ah, yes, yes. I love Joy. Did they do the dancing contest?

No, they didn't. Okay. Oh, you said Whoopi wasn't there? Whoopi was there. Whoopi was there. Okay, great. No Joy. No Joy.

We've told the story a million times on the podcast, but when we went, this was fall of 2018, they do a dance contest where the warm-up comic is, like, just, you know, picking different sections of the audience, like, getting everyone to dance and having, like, you know, I guess the panelists judge. They were going to judge. That was the whole thing.

It's like, okay, we're going to do a dance contest, and, like, while they were getting, like, their touch-ups during a commercial break, like, and they're gonna judge so all right let's see over here and it's like this woman like like doing like like mom dancing waving her arms and like whatever and then the woman turns over to the panel and goes all right what do you think whoop and whoopie just goes i don't give a fuck about this and we screamed laughing like it was so funny no one else in the room responded they were like oh they were like oh like it was just kind of like this thing of like they didn't really get it and

i think the the moderator like nervous laughed but then sunny stepped in and she was like i think that that woman won over there i really do i think she was great and like my other favorite line that we did was we're sitting we're sitting right by sunny because megan was not there thank fucking god but because i don't think i could have handled her energy no i couldn't but um we're sitting right there and sunny's on the end and it goes to commercial and she truly looked amazing so we bone and i at the same time go like you look amazing sunny and she turns to us and she goes thank you so much you know when i'm not doing a show i don't even wear makeup i don't wear makeup at all and we just go good for her we're just like sitting there with our mouth open like oh my amazing like two gays like like gagging over her dream what a dream you know i don't

wear makeup i don't wear makeup at all uh i what i love about sunny is she's always the one who does the reading like if anytime i have an author on or she does the she'll watch the one who does the reading. Like, anytime I have an author on, or she does the, she'll watch the movie, like, no one else clearly, like, does any homework for her. Well, she kind of like goes, and I read the book. Yeah, every single time. She does that little look with her eyes, and she goes, and I read it.

Well, I read the book. Great. And what I thought was really interesting was, and also I love that she's a, I have a legal note. She is, Sunny is iconic. But she always says, twice impeached, once or whatever about um oh

yeah she goes our former disgrace twice impeached every former president uh and then it's just it's just so funny this is the thing about like these people in the public eye these ticks that they have these little things are so important and you gotta nail it yeah because when you choose to stick with something it's like if that's gonna be your thing like that it has to you mean like sunny's choosing the right things or i don't know like who she is like the tics that she has like these little things like it's great that they're tolerable and iconic and even fun yeah because it's and she also can't help herself and she cannot help herself but to say, and I read the book. I think she'd be a good housewife.

Against... You know what? She has a thing with Bethany. Did you know about this? They have a feud. Oh. Explain the feud to Bowen. They were visiting,

I think it was the Hamptons or something, and Bethany had yelled at Sonny's kids or something. So they had homes in the Hamptons next to each other and they don't know each other

because Sonny could not be bothered with housewives. She just doesn't care. Sure, sure, sure. And so I think she was aware of who Bethany Frankel was, but Sonny's kids were playing on the beach. Perfectly fine, public domain during the day. Bethany came out and screamed at Sonny Hostin's kids. Oh, God.

So the kids came in, and they told Sonny, sunny like the woman next door yelled at us so sunny marched over there knocked on the door and gave bethany the business about like don't yell at my children when they're playing in the beach during the day like shut up and she's like if you have a problem you come to me i'm i'm the adult here like whatever and bethany like blew her off and then andy she told that story on the view and anytime like time Bethany sort of comes up, she'll do that thing like she does with the book. She'll be like, well, you know, I had a run-in. And Megan had one of those things where you could see her brain break because Megan is a fool and loves Bethany. But she was talking about Bethany and Sonny was like, oh, yeah, well, I actually met her and she was really nasty to my kids.

And this is the story. And Megan was like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. And then, so then she breaks in half. Andy brought it up to Bethany on Watch What Happens Live. Oh no. And Bethany said, I don't know what she's talking about. I think she was drunk or on drugs. Oh yeah, yeah.

I forgot about that part. Bethany's disgusting. And I feel like it comes up on The View like a lot. Like for some reason I feel like I've heard heard Sunny tell the story like a million times. And I love, I don't know who's doing it, but I love it. Like who's bringing it up all the time. Well, I've read your book. Well, you know, I ran into her once.

You know, I ran into her once. She wasn't very nice to my kids. She's the only fucking one to read the book. Joy's never done any of the homework. No. Never. I mean, Abby used to be good about it, I think. Well, Abby was like a good student, I think.

Yeah. We were there the day that Abby was like a good student, I think. Yeah. We were there the day that Abby was there. It was like when Abby was new. And one thing I do remember is like, they brought Abby out first to do like, I think like, look at spring fashion or something. And they were like, okay, everyone, the first thing we're going to do

is we're going to do a quick segment with Abby that's going to be on tomorrow. And Abby came out, you could tell she was ready for like, for the audience to go like, and everyone was just like she just didn't work on that show she came back recently and I felt like

she tried to sort of step it up but it didn't it just didn't work she wasn't good she seems like a nice person she's just fine she seems like a nice moderate conservative there you go there you go we wish her the best Rosie the thing with Rosie too is,

talk about picking things that stay in the cultural lexicon. The koosh balls. Koosh ball, yeah. Have they stayed? I haven't. I don't know that they stayed. Valid point. Valid point. Cutie patootie. That was a good one. Remember the Rosie Elizabeth

Split screen Like come on That was like Some of the best television Of all time Well ever Amazing It was

It was At the split screen Was when like They both knew What was going on And then they just Dialed it up Yeah

Like yeah Who's our director Defend your own accusations Who's our director here Let's go to commercial That was joy That was my joy That was your joy

It's a good joy I would say it's not As good as your lou no no and nowhere near as good as your steve who's directing this let's go to commercial who's directing this i do think that fred armisen doing it's a great joy so what who cares so what who cares and also this it's the this for me it's the it's the picking at this spot in your shirt. It's a little bit uncomfortable and a little bit I'm too hot. So what? Who cares? Also, it's a little bit of a callback because Joy is, I feel like, constantly talking about taking off her brassiere.

She always talks about, I get home and I take off my brassiere. Steve's like, what's that? She's always, I feel like, mentioning brassiere on the show. So I almost feel like that's what I took. Fred was doing a little picking at his brassiere. Ready ready to get it off ready to get it off who cares whoever whoever decided to put so what who cares in there it's like that thing of like so stupid something that someone has never said but it's also the only thing they've ever said you just believe that that's the only thing joy says now do you know what i heard what apparently in

the show i love lucy ricky never says you got some splaining to do oh he says splain he doesn't say lucy you got some splaining to do it's but it's that it's that thing of like everyone's made up yeah that's someone said this to me and i was like, is that true? But apparently it is true that he never says, Lucy, you got some friends. There are other things like that that aren't necessarily like Mandela Effect.

It's not that like- That's what it's called. Yeah. But I don't think that's what that is either. What is the Mandela Effect? Mandela Effect is like Berenstein Bears,

Berenstein Bears. It's like, there's like a bunch of people remember something completely different. It's like that Shaq movie that doesn't exist. Like Shazam. Shazam.

Or Kazam. Kazam or whatever. One of them does, though. Isn't there one that does, but people think it's something else? We have to get to the bottom of this. No, no, no. There's a whole lot. Kaboom.

Have you ever heard of false memory syndrome? Like remembering something that didn't happen. Basically like a therapist. I could be getting this wrong, so forgive me. But it's like a therapist can convince you of something that happened that didn't happen. Basically like a therapist, I could be getting this wrong so forgive me, but it's like a therapist can convince you of something that happened that didn't happen. Yeah, and that's every parent's worst nightmare when you tell them you're in therapy. Or somebody can convince you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My parents are always like, well, don't let your therapist put memories in your I'm like, no. But I know what they're saying. I did like a crazy deep dive. That's what I was thinking. Oh, and like this happens? It happens. It happens. And people believe believe crazy shit happen like there's something horrible and their child would happen with their mom or dad or whoever that reminds me actually of

ebony k williams is one iconic line on housewives that's gaslighting that's gaslighting no you're gaslighting me you're gaslighting me ramona ram. I don't know what's going to happen with Roni. It makes me sad. I think I do. Dorinda's coming back? This is what I want to say. I don't think Dorinda will be back. I want her back, but I don't think she will. I guess you would know, huh? Well, I don't know. I just guess. No, you know. I would love them

to bring back Dorinda. I really think Dorinda is the key to that franchise. I think they need her a little bit. And I know she went a little nuts and all that stuff. I agree. But it was like, yeah, we need that. I want Jill. I want Dorinda.

I want Lou. I want Sonia. I want the old gals who feel like they're friends. They all feel like they're friends. I want them four. I want Leah as a friend. Make her sweat. See what she brings.

Because I don't love Leah. Though I did like her on Project Run the the the episode with the housewives um and i want three new people that are like friends enough with them and each other that it makes sense but i do think we need to like bring some like downtown energy in yeah you know what i mean like i think it's like just tired and weird and i think we need to find a i don't think it's as simple as rebooting but i think we need to find a... I don't think it's as simple as rebooting, but I think we need to find a bridge between the old that we love about Roni that will make people that have watched it

keep watching, and new energy that feels like it makes sense, which maybe is easier said than done. And I really gotta say, we gotta lose Ramona. I don't know that that will ever happen. Me neither. I don't know either if it'll happen.

I feel like, yeah. Has she come on Everything Iconic? No. Ramona Singer? No. You're not interested? I interviewed her at BravoCon, like on the carpet or whatever, and that was it. And I always really liked, I used to like Ramona, and then it got to the point where

it's just like, I don't know, it just starts to feel gross. There was something charming about her, and then once- It was fun. You met her on the street once. I met her on the street once, and met her on the street once and it was, I was, she was coming out of a car and I was such,

and I did not like her, but I was just kind of like, oh, there's Ramona Singer. So I went up to her, was the most annoying person, intentionally the annoying version of myself where I was like,

Ramona, can I please get a picture? And then she was like, sure. Like, just didn't- I can't believe she even did it because apparently, she's like famously so rude. Yeah. No, she was incredibly rude. she was like, sure. I can't believe she even did it. Because apparently, she's like,

famously so rude. Yeah. No, she was incredibly rude. I was like, thank you so much. Did not say a word to me. Do you still have the picture? No. I just saved it just for the story. I probably had a bad day, and I was like, well, at least that happened. When was that? It was like 2017.

Okay. You know, I think we're in for a treat though with Dorinda's spinoff show with the girls at the Bluestone Manor. Oh yeah, that's the second season of Ultimate Girls Trip

is like all the women who've been fired. Go to Bluestone Manor? That's amazing. The things that I've heard about that show, it's gonna be fucking wild. Yeah,

it's like Phaedra Parks who famously, basically accused Kandi Burruss of rape on Atlanta. Her. Brandi fucking Glanville. Oh my god. Jill Zarin. Taylor Armstrong. Taylor Armstrong. Do you know about

Taylor Armstrong? I don't think so. So her husband committed suicide. Her husband was beating her. And that's where Camille Grammar said, we don't say on camera that he beat you, that he broke your jaw, but now we said it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's where that comes from. She's also that meme of, like, people yelling at the cat or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Vicky and Tamara. Vicky and Tamara. It's, like, the most chaotic people. Dorinda. Right, right.

From the universe. And you're hearing that it's, like, crazy shit happened? Great. Unhinged, crazy, like, chaos. I don't know how it'll be. The things that I've heard about it, it's just crazy. But hopefully it's, like, a coherent crazy

that we're able to, like, follow and everything. Which I think it will be, but... The first season of Ultimate Girls Trip was, like, the pros and, like, the ones who have been lasting

and, like, the ones who really know how to do the show. And so they were bringing their light drama, but it really was more like a celebration of Housewives as a franchise and, like, a retrospective.

This is, I think, going to be like Housewives. And trying to get back on their franchises. Like trying to do- With something to prove. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's going to be good. I think. I hope.

I hope. Danny, do you watch 90 Day Fiancé at all? You know, I dipped in a while ago, but I haven't been in a while. It's been years. I'm officially back in. You're back in. Is it good? I love it.

And I do have to say, I really still am hurt. There's a little bit of pain in me. I watched a whole season of it. But you didn't like it. And that hurts me. Can I say why? The episodes are too long.

Yeah, it's hard to keep up with. That's the problem. I loved it, but it was very long. He's in pain. I'm in pain. I've watched Survivor for you. Survivor's very easy to watch. I've watched many episodes. You haven't watched Survivor for you. Survivor's very easy to watch. I've watched...

You haven't watched Survivor for me. I said you should watch Survivor. You started watching it and you loved it. I just want you to take one of my recommendations. I do! I watched a whole season of Runaway Fiancé. I was absolutely amazed. Matthew, just watch it for me.

I'm going to. It's just... Can I say? There's so much out there. And just like that is out there. Also, you know I'm working on a show. I work long, hard hours. He's so hurt.

Look at him, he's hurt. Is Darcy still on it? Darcy is still on it. Wow, she is. You didn't watch the Darcy season, did you? Yes, I did. Oh my god. Because that's really hooked me.

And I've interviewed Darcy a couple times. You have? And it's been wild. Darcy. And then Darcy has her own spinoff with Darcy and Stacey with her twin. My boyfriend watches that. So I feel like I keep up with them and I keep up with Darcy like peripherally. Like I know where she's at and everything.

But I love Darcy. The Darcy of it all was crazy. Right. Darcy. I don't know how she still is on the show, but it was. I mean, I don't know. She figures out a way to stay in there, and it's pretty impressive. So is her second relationship working?

Tom, no. Tom is... Because the first guy was completely insane. Yeah, Jesse, I watched that season. That's a crazy season, but you needed to watch either season three of Before the 90 Days with Angela or season four. Oh, no, Angela I love.

Oh, I watched that one with Okay. With Angela, yeah. I mean, it's really good. The Caesar storyline, the guy who goes to Mexico and buys the candy panties and shit. Oh, yeah. No. It's so incredible to see.

This is so tragic and sad. I mean, I guess that's why people don't latch onto it because it's pure despair no that doesn't bother me that part doesn't bother me like i like that and you know it is kind of like like but by the time those things really happen you actually are happy that you've watched so much of it because it's like i just think they they could they could afford to cut like two storylines out always like i just feel like i want to see more of the people you love

because then when you go away from them, it's like, ugh. Like, some people I just was not responding to. Yes. No, that's fine.

You know, I went, I was covering it on my show for like a season. It was around that, I think it was before the 90 Days with Darcy. And they invited me to like a mixer

to come and interview like some, it was at a gay bar in West Hollywood. I forget where it was. But there was like a whole sle in west hollywood i forget where it was but uh there was like a whole slew of the characters there right and i was new to the world and they were like said they were bringing people to me to like interview and i didn't know who these people

were and so i got like a crash course and like all of these stars of that show of that franchise and it was crazy it was like i can't you i mean it's shocking to me that Darcy is the star of that channel. Right, right. That's crazy. Of TLC. She is the star. She's the, like the face of TLC. She's the, I don't know, like.

So that's like, part of her probably is like, oh God, I hope none of this shit works out on the face of TLC. I gotta stay on this show. Exactly, exactly. She needs a lot of 90 day periods. There you go. And she'll stay. She'll stay. She's the star. And now they have a spinoff. Darcy a lot of 90 day periods. There you go. And she'll stay. She'll stay. She's a star. And now they have a spin-off. Darcy and Stacey. That's crazy. Her sister.

Oh my god. Are you able to tell the difference between the Darcy and... Yes. Stacey has had better work done. Okay. Unfortunately. I hate to hear it. Anyway. Before we go into I Don't Think So Honey, tell us a little bit about the book. The book is good. It's a lot of nostalgia, pop culture, a lot of family stories.

It's comedic, and then there's some drama in there, too. It's an essay collection, so there's funny stuff and some dramatic stuff. I can't wait. I'm really proud of it. I love it. I hope everyone gets it. Pre-order. It's out March 8th.

How do I unremember this? I'm going on tour. Oh, great. Where are you going? Oh, yeah. I'll be in New York, Chicago, Boston, Cleveland,

and LA. Stadiums? Yeah. Gillette. I'm partnered with independent bookstores. So you can come to, you know, and support the independent bookstores

or order from your local bookstore if you want to. And then I'm doing South by Southwest. Oh, fuck yeah. That's so great. I've always wanted to go to South by. This fall on Bravo.

It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. We're friends like that. Who needs enemies? You ain't seen nothing yet. Cheers to being Germanic. With the Real Housewives of Potomac.

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Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. everywhere. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family

separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story as part of the My Cultura podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Julian Edelman. i'm rob gronkowski guess what folks we're teammates again and we're gonna welcome you guys all to dudes on dudes i'm a dude you're a dude and dudes on dudes is our brand new show we're gonna highlight players peers guys that we played against legends from the past and we're just gonna sit here and talk about them and we'll get into to sit here and talk about them. And we'll get into the types of dudes.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so I guess it's time for I Don't Think So, Honey, huh? It's time. Wow, this is that moment when we take one minute to rail against something in pop culture that we just, we want to put on notice, on burn notice. On burn notice. And then really just drag them through the goddamn mud. But I have something and it will put a button on my feelings on a particular topic. Okay, great.

This is Matt Rogers' I Don't think so many his time starts now i don't think so honey sada ramirez having to play che diaz this is one of the most talented people in the world yeah go online and i want you to youtube two videos one is whatever happened to my part from spam a lot this human being is the most talented person in the world. I understand Che Diaz seemed like an opportunity of a lifetime, but the Che of it all is keeping Sara Ramirez from being Sara Ramirez. The second video I want you to watch is Buenos Aires from Evita. There is a performance that Sara Ramirez does of this that is standing the test of time forever.

This is one of the most talented musical theater performers in the world. I understand why they were like, throw them a song and just like that. But all it did was piss me off because I'm like, if I'm in the audience in this world event, just like that. And I know it's surreal and Magritte, but I'm saying,

why aren't they on Broadway? Is the pilot musical? It should be. If it's not, I don't think so, honey. Saturday Ramirez, come back to the stage.

And that's one minute. Wonderful. When you see people that can do anything... I know, it's very frustrating. They sang that Brandi Carlile song, The Story. Yeah, The Story. And I think they sang... Unreal.

Chasing Cars. I think they all sang... It was like a group thing. They did How to Save a Life, too. Yeah. Oh my god. I think everyone... Maybe that was broken a group thing they did how to save a life too yeah i think everyone maybe that was like broken up every single person did a little i think kyler lee could sing yeah and pompeo's not a singer she shouldn't have to sing right why are we trying to make her sing we shouldn't be doing we shouldn't be doing that but that musical episode existed because they were like i mean here's sada. So like, let's have it happen.

That was at a time in Grey's history when, I don't know if they still do this, but they were doing a lot of gimmicky episodes. I think it was that same season they did. And I liked this episode where it was real time. Like, it all took place in an hour. Yes, I liked that too. And I kind of liked that a lot. I also loved the documentary.

I hated the documentary. Oh, I don't like that either. See, that was when Mandy Moore died. That's right. First of all, when Mandy Moore died on Grey's Anatomy, that was a moment in culture. Yeah. We actually missed that on Top 200 Moments in Culture. We did.

We did. We might have to do another list. Might have to do another list. But when Mandy Moore died, that was incredible. And just Chandra, like, taking it to camera, being like, yeah, she's dead. Also, I mean, all their disaster episodes, being like, yeah, she's dead. Also, I mean, all their disaster episodes, my joke is always, there's a lion loose

on Wisteria Lane. Like, basically during sweeps, when the tornado came. Kyle Chandler and the bomb. Yeah, the bomb. So Grey's Anatomy and Desperate Housewives were so good at it when they would do their event episodes. My favorite is when there was a twister on Wisteria Lane and John Slattery took a white picket

fence to the chest and died, and Eva Longoria was free. I want that reboot. Me too! It's Bowen Yang's time for Adam's Bigger Money. I don't have anything. I didn't have anything until I started speaking. That's not true.

You had it ready to go before you uttered the phrase. You don't know me at all. You don't know me. You don't know me. You don't know me. Oh, I've got something.. You don't know me. You don't know me. Oh, I've got something. Okay, see, this is what I'm saying. Like, sometimes it just comes. It was sitting there in the back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so

this is Bowen Yang, the one and only. First of all, let's just say. I love that I get to be here and watch this in person. This is, we haven't done this in a while. Isn't it amazing? I feel like I'm just, I'm getting, like, a live show. I feel, like, excited. I'm excited. Well, we're gonna get the show. Isn't it amazing? I feel like I'm just, I'm getting like a live show. I feel like excited. I'm excited. Well, we're going to get the show. Yeah.

Isn't it just amazing to watch us work? You know, it's so like when, when you get in the room and it's like, it's electricity, you know, it's electricity. What is this Ramona energy?

It's really happening. You know, I'm incredible. You gaslighted me. Um, that's gaslighting. That's gaslighting. Should Ebony come back?

Well, I don't know. We'll think about it. During Bowens, I don't think so, honey. And his it during bowens i don't think so honey and his time starts now i don't think so honey anytime someone's like this person looks like you it never goes well they never get it right they always show you some like person who like i don't know like is missing like six of your chromosomes or something? Like, it never looks like you.

Do people do this with you guys? Like your relatives and shit? Like, it's like, it never, ever, ever makes you think, wow, they really do look like me, don't they? What are you trying? What is the end game there? 30 seconds. When someone is like, this person looks like you. What do you expect the other person to say?

I don't understand what that conversational exchange, what that exchange is supposed to be. And you're putting me in a weird position to be like, I think that's not what I look like. Or you like kill a part of yourself to be like,

yeah, you're right. I don't like it. Five seconds. It sets up, you know, something very contentious. And I don't know, it makes me like you, respect you much less. I don't like it. Five seconds. It sets up, you know, something very contentious and I don't know, it makes me like you,

respect you much less. Don't ever do that. That's one minute. You know, unless it's going to be like a model or like a huge movie star, like it shouldn't be done. You know who people were telling me

I looked like? Do you remember the teenage girl who was texting her boyfriend to kill himself? Oh my God. What was her name? But they did a documentary about her on HBO.

Yes, and everyone was like, you look like her. Oh my God. Wait. The documentary was good. It was an incredible documentary. I also would argue that people shouldn't, you shouldn't say about yourself

that you look like anyone either. Do you remember back in the day when people were posting their doppelganger online? Yeah. It's like, I don't think you should say, like every gay person was like, oh, Jake Gyllenhaal. And it's like, you don't look like Jake Gyllenhaal

or whoever it was. Right, right. You're like, wait a minute. Like, what is this? That was uncomfortable too. Dysmorphic view of yourself. Wait, okay. Her name was Michelle Carter.

No, but she looks like fucking like, she looks like Cara Delevingne. She looks like Cara Delevingne she looks like Cara Delevingne and I think who's playing her I think Cara's playing her no no no someone's

oh no no no it's someone else it's someone else it's someone else who the fuck is playing her um Elle Fanning Elle Fanning

is that it yes it's Elle Fanning is it it's Elle Fanning who is playing Michelle Carter who is playing Michelle

Carter oh it says Varder I have really big thumbs Elle Fanning is playing Michelle Carter. Who is playing Michelle Carter. Oh, it says Varder. I have really big thumbs. Elle Fanning is doing it. And I think I saw a photo of Elle

with her blocked brows and these chunky brows and making that sad Michelle Carter face with that hair and I was

honestly chic. Did you see the photos of Renee Zellweger playing that podcast? podcast you know what i'm talking about yeah what they put her in a fat suit they did and it was shocking to me i didn't see the the video i guess there's a trick is there a trailer i don't know what is she playing she's she's in a fat suit playing a it's like a pot someone a killer she's in fact she's playing a

podcast killer something like that she's playing a killer i think or something what's going on look you just look up renee zellweger new movie or show i think it's an nbc show okay renee with judy greer's in it too we love but renee zellweger new show literally my jaw dropped when i saw the image okay wait okay um did you find it renee zellweger is unrecognizable in trailer for true crime series The Thing About Pam. Okay, wait. Yep. This is so... Renee Zellweger is unrecognizable as a Midwestern murdering mom.

Okay, wait. Yeah, they really did go... Wow. They went the distance on this one. Okay. And I'm concerned that it's NBC. We love NBC, but it's like... I'm concerned that she did all of

that for a network like procedural yeah yeah zellweger stars as pam hup p-a-m-h-u-p-p real person a middle-aged mother an insurance office worker she's not a podcaster unfortunately who in 2011 became embroiled in a brutal slashing murder for which she is currently facing charges this is what she looks like in the show incredible the shoes why can't just just cast to just cast a fat person that's kind of what i think but oh look josh dumell is in it he is yeah there's i mean it's hard to even focus on anything else when you see that photo of Renee Zoegger. Like, you can't even see the other people in the background.

I mean, this is my new lock screen now. That's 100% it. Sure, sure, sure, sure. Like, that's incredible. But, wow. Well, I think it's time for Danny's I don't think so, honey. I think it might be time for Danny Pellegrino's

I don't think so, honey. A moment in time, this is. Okay, this is Danny Pellegrino's I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. The View, I love. We just talked about The View, of course.

All these things. We love The View. And it's one of the most incredible shows on TV. 25 so, honey. Time starts now. I don't think so, honey. The View, I love it. We just talked about The View, of course, all these things. We love The View and it's one of the most incredible shows on TV. 25 years and it's still making headlines. My problem is that they never address the headlines in the Hot Topics when they're in the headlines and I think we need to finally start breaking down that fourth wall. If Whoopi's going to be taking a two-week leave absence,

then I want to hear the host talk about it the next day on the Hot Topics table because the other shows are talking about it. The Talk is talking about it, The Real, Bill Maher, the other shows are talking about it. So let's sit the women down. I want to know what Sonny thinks of it. I want to hear the host talk about it the next day on the Hot Topics table because the other shows are talking about it. The Talk is talking about it. The Real, Bill Maher, the other shows are talking about it. So let's sit the women down. I want to know what Sonny thinks of it. I want to know what Joy thinks of it. When they're searching for a conservative co-host to replace Meghan McCain, page six is writing about it. Every magazine is writing about it.

Let's have the girls sit down and talk about who do we want? Who do we like from the past? This is a hot topic culturally, so let's address it as a hot topic in the show, but instead they decide to not talk about it. And I want to hear those women talk about it because The View is a pop culture phenomenon and it's in the zeitgeist. And when it is in the zeitgeist,

I want it to be a hot topic like it rightfully is. And I love the show more than anything. And I only say this because I care and I want the show to address it. And that's what made it. That's wonderful. Incredible. I mean, here's the deal that was oh my god and truly the the the density it was the most words per minute we've had in a very long time in a very long time and that's because it's deserving

of it because the fact is the view is being left in the dust by the real and the talk i don't even care about the talk but The Real is the best panel daytime show on television right now. Really? Yes. Because they have Garcelle now, who's a great center. Right, right, right.

Garcelle is such good vibes. She's good, yeah. And Adrienne and Lonnie are always like, they always, and Jeannie, who's amazing, like, they always have like, they, they, it's never contentious between them,

but they disagree. And I'm never nervous watching it because it feels like they all have like a respectful working relationship and the view i had to stop watching the view because it feels toxic to me like and i get nervous watching it it just feels so weird to me though that there could be a story like the whoopee thing or like whatever it is it happens all the time yeah it's, then you turn on the show and it's not on the hot topics. And it's like, it would be such a great opportunity for us to like sit and talk.

Like there's been so much back and forth of like, should Whoopi have gotten a two week break and should, or should she have not, or should she been fired completely, whatever it is. And I feel like that could have made such an explosive thing to hear Joy and Sunny and Sarah anna or whoever sitting and talking like oh yeah i actually i you know i think whoopi should have been here right i don't

i think she should have been whatever yeah yeah it's when this thing happens with wendy williams too when it's like when she becomes a story she doesn't talk about it she doesn't talk about herself because for whatever reasons like she's she's allowed to keep that private but like there it does kind of like chip away at the whole i don't know uh exists the reason for existence of your show it's like well then why aren't you talking about yourself if you're the story i think that it really boils down to the fact that it would piss whoopi off and i don't think whoopi would come back if with if whoopi was being discussed on the show and like if there were anything negative about her because i don't i i actually from what i understand about whoopi from like the stuff that's written about the um show and like the stories around the show is that she

kind of does actually run the ship even if it feels like and the the um vibe that she wants to give off is that she kind of doesn't really care about it. She actually very much does. Yeah, yeah. And I think that there's, you know, a lot of, like, main character energy there and she's not going to be, you know, dragged by her own show.

But it's interesting because it's actually, like, it is a fascinating discussion about, like, when someone is a cultural icon and, like, has learning to do and messes up like that it feels very in line and what of what the view does just normally just talk about right because because i mean that's one thing i really i'm so tired of hearing them talk about cancel culture because i i just don't think that they i think that they sunny in particular is always like i don't like this cancel culture like it's that simple

and they do discuss this topic all the time so for it to be in their own home and not address it feels like a missed opportunity and and also like if you want people to watch like people would watch yeah and there's so many logistics around it and i'm sure it's like you said maybe they don't want to whoop you to be upset or whatever it is but it just happens time and time again where the view is making like worldwide news and they're being talked about because they're that girl yeah yeah yeah

but so it's like let's I don't know let's address it some a little bit on air it feels like the thing about the real too I don't know if you ever watched the real like the real is so good because they actually will get personal with each other i love that you're a real stand oh i love the real first of all lani love cries every day ah we love it's always a thing of like and you know and then you'll hear adrian go oh and you'll hear something and garcelle will be like okay

all right and like we're here for you and lani will be like, we're here for you. And Lonnie will be like, I just feel like. And then she'll just like, go into like, and they're crying all the time. And they like, I love that. They carve out time in the show. It's like, it's like, they literally say like,

and now we're going to get personal. And it's like, time for them to cry. That is something you tune in for. Yes. Yes. And that's, I don't know.

It's like, it's that, that relaxed, actual friend energy that I like. I don't know. And I just feel like with The View, first of all, why don't they just find a fucking fifth host already? It has to be a conservative person, right?

I guess, yeah. there is some world that they could find someone like a different kind of left person and, and sort of examine the group, the differences amongst the group as they are. And it feels almost like they kind of skate over the fact that this group does also have disinterest or, or differing opinions within there, but they don't really explore it because they're looking for like the, the person who like rounds that rounds it out,

quote unquote. But it's like, you don't need to do that. It's already rounded out in some way. Like let's find what's, what's differing within. Unless you invite like, I mean,

God, this, this, this might, they'll just end up with another like person who cannot meaningfully or like constructively bring anything to the conversation. They'll just bring in like some like right-wing nutcase i think you know that's the thing i think is that they're trying to figure out a way to put someone on the show that's palatable and also like reasonable and also conservative which is like that's not the base right now there's not a reasonable like

that that type of voice so i always feel like to get away from this thing we have right now which is essentially like for centrist democrats because they all kind of think the same shit um like there are like little differences but the conversation doesn't really go anywhere i think they need to like get someone that's either really progressive like they don't have anyone that's like truly progressive and then someone that's like i don't know like jedediah bela or whatever like that's like a like a libertarian but that's good on television i never i never realized i never understood why they got rid of herself i think there's also a a world too where it doesn't have to be like a political talking

head you know some of the best people in view historyW history have been Elizabeth Haselbeck or something who lean right, but they're from a reality show or something like that. I don't think we have to have like a political commentator who's right or leans right. You just need someone who's good on television. Yeah, yeah. Someone who's good in television.

Yeah. And I think that that's, I hope they're listening. I do love the VIEW though. I hate that you would just talk shit about it. Well, I had to bail on it. I'm sorry. And I'm sorry because I'm going to protect my energy first. I get it.

And you're a real stan, so you have to defend your ladies. I get it. And the thing is, when they put Garcelle on the show, I was like, oh, now I'm – You're watching. I love Garcelle. I do, too. She came on my show when she was promoting Tenna, which is like her incontinence. Oh, wow. Good for her. And it was so funny when she was promoting Tena, which is like her incontinence. Oh, wow.

Good for her. And it was so funny because she kept having to bring up Tena. She's coming on Lost Gulch. She's coming on this show. She's the best. She's the best.

She's got a book coming out too. That's going to be exciting. Oh my God. And I read the book. Oh, did you read it? She's going to read it. No, no. Are you going to do that?

And I read the book. Well, I read the book. And I thought it was good. Please do it. And I read the book. Well, I read the book. And I thought it was good. Please do it. And I read the book. And speaking of reading books, gotta say, how do I remember this?

There's some good gay stories too. There's a, you know. I cannot, this is all I talked about. I told him, all I talked about in therapy yesterday was, well, this, okay, let me just finish up the Harina thing.

I read her Instagram caption and it's so beautifully written. And I was like, I was stoned. And I thought my stoner narcissistic thought was, God, I used to be a decent writer like this once. And I was like, you know what I have to do? I got to start reading books again. And then I went to Barnes & Noble at the Grove yesterday.

Absolutely. Picked up a Neve Babbitt. Picked up a Joan Didion I haven't read. And then now I got a third book. Same league as those two. Same league as those those two i love holding a book too like to me there's something like even buying a book holding it like i love it i was like on this whole like oh like e-reader ipad kick of like reading my books on that but no like you can't have the thing be on the same thing as the distraction you know like it has to be its own thing that you can fully separate from

like just all this bullshit on my phone you know i'm also reading a book right now i'm reading uh jennifer lewis's yes autobiography i'm working with her right now and she's incredible and so i have in my trailer um the mother of black hollywood which is her book and it's she recalled to that because she's truly played everyone every like black superstars mother and she's also a legend in her own right and she's got so many amazing stories she like originated effie white um and then they ended up going with jennifer holiday for the broadway thing and it was like this but anyway there's stories on stories and i i can't recommend that book enough either and she's so in the pages and she's just amazing so but lovely but also how do i

unremember this unfortunately true stories you can preorder it you're gonna get it on March 8th yes and dear God we end every episode oh but Danny thank you so much for telling me this was like a dream come true I love you both oh my god

everything iconic is such a good podcast and I'm telling you truly a tour de force every episode yeah you're so good we end every episode with a song i wish they all could be california girls i wish they all could be california girls oh stunning Oh, stunning. Stunning. Bye. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida.

And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home, and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to

Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had.

We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. I was a desperate delusional dreamer. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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