Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "You Can Go In Now If You Want" (w/ Natalie Walker)

Episode Date: January 9, 2019

Matt & Bowen welcome guest and fellow culturista Natalie Walker to the studio! The three talk shitting in plastic bags, performers who can make a meal out of a snack, bathtub acting, Disney world, and most importantly, awards season. Plus, Matt & Bow reminisce about the early days of Las Culturistas, after a tearful goodbye to HPJ. ---MERCH! MERCH! GET YOUR LAS CULTURISTAS MERCH!https://www.teepublic.com/stores/las-culturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!LAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST. LAS CULTURISTAS IS PRODUCED BY EMMA FOLEY.http://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and tears have been shed ducks have been have been triggered. Because. Ducks with the teeth. HPJ, hot producer Joe Cilio, and we have to say his name. Joe Cilio. He just came in here and he's moving to Los Angeles. And we had a really emotional moment all together. Yes. We all just sort of joined in a hug. Joined. He had some very nice words to say.

And I. And the fucking. The thing that's like sending me over the edges he brought the like the original las culturistas hat and back when hats were part of the brand back when i mean hats there's still the hat they're still there but uh oh my god just what a what a journey he's been so he's been there since the beginning and and you should know like if you listen to forever dog podcast if you love seek treatment if you love race chaser if you love you know black man can jump in hollywood everything like that's like this is all it's joe and alex and everyone at forever dog that have like seriously made this such a great dynamic

network there's so many great cool new podcasts that are still coming yes and it's just really awesome to have been at forever dog since the beginning and like we watched it we were just doing stuff at alex's apartment and then like he would like put goofing goofing and like the way that he would like filter out sound was he just put like an air mattress in the window like yeah like like those two boys built something together. That's so special. Yeah. I wonder how they're doing going to be separated.

Cause they're like Matt and Bo. They're like a Matt and Bo situation. Not, not, not quite as codependent maybe, but like, I don't know. They run a business together.

Well, sure. Um, but they, yeah, I'm just, that was, that was a really emotional moment that was seriously

emotional and tears were shed and we all had to hold each other yeah it was very special anyway we love hpj we love hpj and you can buy an hpj shirt at tpublic.com or a tote or a pillow or whatever your heart desires i got it you feel this way throw a pillow how cute is it did it come in already it came in all my merch came in and look i have a phone case that says erasure erasure i had a friend buy an erasure tank top and love t-public so much but something about the way that so that i dragged that logo to the very top left corner it could possibly go inches below the nipple i was like it doesn't it doesn't really make sense but well i'll talk to

our people you speak to them at t public and also i heard that you feel this way t-shirt is a little see-through but the person who got it says they actually love oh like it's a little bit see-through a little bit sheer a little bit sheer um do you have a story to share i told you i had a story to share this has just been a very stressful week fraught fraught week and for me it's sort of i thought it culminated in this one event where um but that it was this took place on a friday yeah this did this was on friday love that i wake up have a bezoar of a shit waiting for me in my bowels just heavy heavy heavy poop oh i walk out of my room no and um my one of my roommates is in the shower uh and i'm like okay great it's fine i'll just wait this

out it happens all the time oh no 45 minutes later no no still in there and at this point i'm just no my my dilations let's say are like two seconds apart like a baby child like a baby like i'm giving birth i'm giving an ass birth essentially and then um really did not one of my most help one of my most helpless moments oh god run to the closet where we store our plastic bags. Double bag. I mean, I don't... So I told this story last night to Pat Regan,

friend of the show, co-host of Seek Treatment. He was like, I don't know about this story. But then basically... Choked this double bag, went back to my room, oriented myself into a squat over the bags in my hand explosively shat into two plastic bags yeah yeah um and i want to say it's not my roommate's fault um no it is well i didn't

force them to not make me knock you know like i could have knocked but also she was in the shower and like no no no that's also too long whatever um so then so okay let's get back to the i shot i literally shattened two plastic bags get back to this um my whole room stinks like a fucking ghost and then i i set the bag on my nightstand and i'm just like well and i i'll just i'll it just has to sit there for until she gets out of the bathroom another five seven minutes finally she leaves no i bolt to the fucking bathroom slam the door invert the bag to make the shit come out into the toilet no no no no flush that i can't just throw away a poop drenched plastic bag into the trash right so i go to the sink start washing it with detergent and soap just to make sure all at a molecular level all the shit is gone okay um so that way so then i'm able to dispose of the

bags but then my sink is covered in poop dust so then I have to take bleach and like a bunch of different cleaners I like just did the whole I just threw everything at the actual literal sink and washed that down and I was like I can't I was like I can't believe I have to go

talk to Matt Damon after this and whatever I don't know I was like I was like I shatten in a plastic bag this morning. Can I tell you something? Yeah. I've done the same thing. Really? Years ago, I had to shit in a plastic bag

back when I was sharing a space. Yes. One of my lovely roommates was taking a day and a half in the bathroom. And what do you do when you have to go? I mean, I actually asked the listeners, what do you do when you have to go i mean i actually asked the listeners what do you do you do when you have to go and you're sharing a space and you know when you have to go you have to go it's actually rule of culture number 18 when you have to go you have to go so i shit in a bag as well this was years ago this is i'm gonna say

five six years ago destroyed a paper bag in my bedroom paper bag no not paper plastic i'm sorry let's be clear but let me tell you something i didn't go to the fucking needless trouble and i don't think so honey all the all the craziness that you did in the bathroom i'm not gonna go to the you go to the garbage outside you put it in the garbage and then the garbage people deal with it no but then they fucking fine your ass it It's like you can't. No, I don't think so. I don't think you're. Wait, what do dog owners do?

Do they throw those shits in the garbage? They put them in the garbage. In the public garbages? I feel this way that you just get rid of it. I don't know. I might have gone to one of my neighbor's garbages. They have. The police, the NYPD has eyes all over the city. I don't know. I might have gone to one of my neighbor's garbage. They have, they have,

the police, the NYPD has eyes all over the city. They see that these, they have eyes on every single trash can. I'm convinced. Well, I stand here a free man. No household trash.

My shit in a double bag. It counts as household trash. That's horrific. I really, what you went through was horrific, but I feel that you made it more complicated which you often do i resent that i just i really wanted to make sure that um there was no risk there was no margin of any sort of thing wrong to happen i get it it's just you know look i think that humanity would have forgiven you had you just thrown it out.

Oh, God. But, like, there's really no moment, like, after you've just shit in a bag and you still don't have access to a bathroom or toilet paper that you just sort of have this moment where you can't sit down. Right. You can't lie down. You're forced to just stand there with, like, a dredged layer of your own feces lining your ass, your fissure in your body. And that's when you realize just how human you are. Oh my God.

I don't know. Look. Look. But it's going to be up to the listeners. Yes. I want their feedback on this. Yes, I want their feedback on this too. What do you do

what would you do also um you know really really had this moment where i was like this what a low moment but we have a guest oh we sure do who just no she would handle the situation with poise absolutely and she would she would be she would just have and And good humor. Good humor, but you would immediately have the smartest, most... Most smart... The most smartest. The smartest, most smart. Most smartest from...

Most smartest. From Drop Dead Gorgeous. Oh, yeah. I know the reference. Thank you. But just the funniest take on it immediately. Oh, and I guess we'll find out. We'll find out.

But the way this person... The way this person processes information or things that happen in her life, other people's lives, and then is able to speak on them, speak on those experiences. I would say an uncommonly intelligent person and that intelligence,

and this is very academic the way I'm speaking about this, that intelligence is rooted directly to their sense of humor. You know, some people, it's like those places, those two things exist deeply different parts of their brain. Whereas, however, this person's intelligence and their sense of humor is forever linked.

Forever linked. And we are grateful. And that's why we follow her at and walks. Yes. And that's why we enjoy so much the things she does. Now let's go through the credits. On her social media platforms. And I'm about to go through the credits.

Okay. So every single time this person posts, it an event it is an event so this person does performances of different like archetypes oftentimes that actresses will play in film and they are so funny and dead on from a performance standpoint honey right from a writing standpoint i think most of all. Oh, my God. Because it all starts with the text. It's actually rule of culture number 22. It all starts with the text.

And I'm always G-A-G-G-E-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D. Gag-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Gag-da-da-da-da-da-da. And then, to top it off, you can also get more of these writings. These writings can be found at Vulture. And you can also see this person as an interview s on vulture oh my god did you read her her piece on the jimmies i have read every piece oh my god i've read every single piece you can check out my reviews of rupaul's

drag race which i now do solo thank you very much check and now to top it off, you thought that it was just happening on the written page? No. Because this person also is a fabulous performer. Yes. Superlative. Yes. And I would say, you know, just, I would say just sit around and wait to see them perform. It happens all the time. But guess what?

I have specific information. Oh, this is huge. This is crazy. Alice by Heart is the new musical at mcc it's the new musical from get this steven sater and miss duncan she miss duncan chic spring awakening the previews begin january 30th and this superstar is in the show literally truly excited to to have this person on the podcast i have been saying this is a true cultureista yes and i sometimes i even feel a sheep in wolves clothing i feel the same

way or am i a wolf in sheep's clothing you're a wolf in sheep's okay great it's real culture number 14 wolf in sheep's clothing is the expression uh she's really the i think she's the one who is just really showing us all up she's showing us all up because it's like we think we're performers no we think we're writers no we think we have style no we think we have class no she's the one she's the only natalie walker and i feel how do you feel about the poop intro oh my god the poop intro was flawless I've never experienced

it in my personal living space but I did I got diarrhea the first week at a new school on we had to go on like a wilderness trip and literally on the way home I was

like in a carpool with two other girls who I had just met like the week before. And I got diarrhea and I like knew it was going to happen. And then I just was like, Hey, can we stop at a gas station? I think, I think, I think I'm getting my period. I think I'm getting my period. I'm just getting my period. I'm getting my period and we have to stop. I'm getting a monster period.

That's taking me now. Yeah, my period smells really bad. That's something you should know about me. It's horrible. And then also, while I was at NYU, there was like a stressful day at Adler and I literally did not make it to the bathroom. No.

Like I had to leave like a Shakespearean scene study class and was like, oh my God, I'm going to shit myself. I can't go on as Juliet like this. I simply can't do it. Congratulations on going on as Juliet. Congratulations. Oh my god well no they did it they did it because they wanted to stretch me as an actress because they were like you're an idiot clown like let's try you as this and then um we had this one teacher who like chloe feinman discussed on the show we're like in the culture of Adler he was like this mythic figure where everyone's like oh my god Jimmy says the darndest things and then you look back

years later and you're like oh those were all abhorrent things that he said to me so literally after he stopped me three lines into my Romeo Juliet scene uh after I got back from shitting myself and he was like stop stop stop why is your juliet disabled and i was like what jesus happening what's going on and the thing is it's like i was trying to play young because i'd been playing 47 year old women my entire life so i was like oh i'm juliet i'm a young girl he was like no yes um wait that's insane and also yes a very real thing and also that like these teachers they

they were I get it's the arts but like you can't just say whatever the fuck no no no no it's real culture number 80 you can't just say whatever the fuck wait can we pause I literally we can keep this I have to must shit right now.

This can't be the shit episode. No, I'm sorry. No, Natalie, this has never happened before. I'm so sorry. I've never. Go. Okay, we're going to. Okay, if you guys want to keep this going.

We'll chat for a second. I truly love it because that intro was. He's going. Oh my God. The thing is he works this very stressful job contagious yes and so the

I guess that has to do with it but the thing is he's always been like this yes do you have someone in your friend who's like in your friend group who's like

always shitting always shitting oh my god probably I feel like I just have I don't know if they shit that much but they just

are always announcing it like whenever they come back from the bathroom they're just like oh my god what a shit and I feel like I just have, I don't know if they shit that much, but they just are always announcing it. Like whenever they come back from the bathroom, they're just like, oh my God, what a shit. And I'm like, I don't need to know every time. Right, exactly. And I know it was a particularly stressful week. Like this is like the last week before they break. And so here he is. And like there's like a lot happening.

Yeah. But it's, we never, it's never about this much shit and poop on Lost Culture. And you know that. I know that. As a fan of the pod. No. Truly, honestly, this is like a perfect little break because it is so out of body for me as such a ridiculous fangirl of the podcast.

Oh my God, no. Like, I feel like I am making this up. Like, listening to you guys talk about me was insane. No, we love you. I'm like, who is this guest. Like listening to you guys talk about me was insane. No, we love you. I'm like, who is this guest? I feel like I'm like in my apartment. Like I usually listen to the pod when I'm like trying to power myself up to get out of my depression bed. Oh God.

I've been there. Especially in the wintertime. I'm like, oh, culture is does please help me. So I truly I feel like I'm in bed and I'm like oh my god this guest sounds so good do you know that you are an obsession worthy topic of gays nationwide that is

so delightful we have LA gay friends and they that you apparently are a character in their text thread I was like whenever there's a Natalie Walker post yes I saw Louis Vertel say that. And I. And that's some high praise indeed.

Yes. You know, he's very discerning. He is incredibly discerning. No. And all of those people. It's very weird for me because like. I have been following all of them like on Twitter and like seeing them for so long, like so much longer than I was ever a person. So stuff like that is incredibly

psycho to me and like joel like joel kim booster like i went to his i went to model minority like you did go dan lempert brought dan lempert was like we're going to this thing chris murphy it was me dan and chris oh and chris like went up and was like the youth guest with Aaron. Yeah. Yeah. But I was like, we opened for that as slow. Oh my God. Yes. We opened for that.

That was a slug night. I think that's why I ended up going. Cause I like, that was like the tipping point was I was like, Oh, Matt and bone are going on. Like I already listened to college because I am a long time fan. Because we had met at Battle of the Divas. Yes.

And I think we had even met before that a couple of times. Probably. Because I think at NYU we ran into each other a couple of times. But NYU, you know, chaotic time. Of course. And I was fully drinking the Kool-Aid of Adler. So I was just like wearing all black and being like, oh, I am the seagull. Similar to Chloe.

Yes. Yes. Yeah. But Chloe was like the queen of Adler. Like. Really? Chloe was as a serious actress, like the queen of adler like really chloe was as a serious actress like the queen of adler and i was a person that like at all of my panels they would be like well we know

you can do a clown role oh i hate that yeah i did speed the plow and my teacher was like the boys were big but they were truthful oh you, God. You were sort of... Because it's Speed the Plow, and there's no fucking role. There's no great role for a woman. The female role in Speed the Plow is literally, come on, be dumb, then be a bitch.

Ugh. The end. Like, walked off in humiliation. Elizabeth Moss did that on Broadway, right? Yes, with Jeremy Piven during the mercury poisoning thing. When he ate too much tuna the sushi.

Okay so listen how did it go? It was good. Thank you so much for supporting me in that moment. What I told Natalie while you were gone was that she is a topic of gays nationwide.

Because you know the LA gays also, like they love it. The LA gays love it. There are text threads about her amongst LA gays. We've talked, our New York gay thread. I think that those LA gays

who literally live and die for the Oscars and those kinds of things. Yes. Like it really hits with them because you truly do nail the sort of like, I am the actress in this movie and this is the role I'm being given

and you really like you must have like are you like an Oscar girl? so I want to talk to you about awards season oh 1000% because aren't we feeling like it's a little kooky this year? it always feels kooky

it's felt kooky in the last five awards yeah it's well also I feel like this is a year where people have more than ever before been like really staunchly advocating for less prestige like less movies that present as prestige movies to get

recognized which I think is like so fucking crucial and great but yeah it feels like there's more to get recognized, which I think is like so fucking crucial and great. But yeah, it feels like there's more passion on both sides about it. Interesting. That's the right interpretation. I think so. But here's the weird thing.

And here's my take right now on the whole Oscar season. And I actually think it has to do with like sort of like like the stuff that you do online and everything the category fraud that is happening this year oh yeah it's crazy that's what you're talking about yes it is out of control can we talk about the sag awards nominations yes yeah the supporting actress category is not acceptable even Even the Globes. All of them. All of them. Because look, we've all seen The Favorite. Yes. I fucking live for The Favorite. I think The Favorite

is incredible. Yes. You cannot look me in my eyes and tell me that Emma Stone and Rachel Weisz are supporting actresses.

No. And you know what? Sometimes when the category is very thick and there's, thank God, a ton of great actress potential nominees this year. Thank God. I'm sorry. They are not supporting actresses.

And you are taking it away from, I'm sorry, Regina King? Yes. Regina King does not get a supporting actress nomination at the SAG Awards? And then Nathaniel Rogers was saying other stuff. Oh, Nathaniel Rogers said Michelle Yeoh deserved a fucking supporting actress nod. She definitely deserves to be considered. Yes. But you cannot put her up against someone like, I'm sorry, Emily Blunt in A Quiet Place, who is a lead.

Yes. And just gets to do more. And then say, let's compare them. Because if you compare them, you are, and you're allowed to be in the same category. The rubric's already fucked up. The rubric is so fucked up. And so I would move on this podcast right now there needs to be rule changes wow do you think no i definitely think because also like even when i love the person and they end up like the fact that viola

davis won supporting for fences it's ridiculous shit. That is a leading role that carries that whole fucking story more even than the character of Troy in Fences. It's like, it's Rose's story, really. And so she should have won lead that year. I think that's the year Emma Stone won for La La Land. And I'm not mad at Emma Stone ever, but like Viola should have been nominated in lead. It's never about Emma Stone.

Yes. I feel like it was it was a decision that was made because the studio didn't have faith that Viola could win over Emma and I think that was wrong I think that was a mistake because I think Viola should have been nominated in lead

and should have won lead Viola Davis should have a leading actress Oscar at this moment in time 100% this feels gender specific too. The category is mostly centered on the females. You are so right because it's something that they'll do. Like, like I will fucking snap my neck if Sam Rockwell gets a nomination for vice

for playing George W. Bush because it's, and you know, I love sketch comedy, but it is a sketch comedy performance. I've seen the film. That's what it looked like. It is a sketch comedy performance I've seen the film that's what it looked like it is a sketch comedy performance you might as well have Will Ferrell doing it and

it probably would have been even better but the thing is like it's true these famous actors can fucking like basically come in and like do a dance step in these movies and they get nominated for like doing this bullshit whereas like it why is it hard

to acknowledge real supporting actresses? And I feel like what I would say is like, it's gotta be a screen time thing. Yes. If you're in more than 30%, if you're in more than 50% of the movie, how about that? I'll even say that.

Okay. You cannot be nominated for supporting actress. It doesn't make sense. Emma Stone is the protagonist of The Favourite. That's that. And when I'm talking about iconic supporting actress performances, what it is about, what that category

specifically is about to me is making a meal out of a snack. I think that's the job of that category is to reward the actress that does that, that is able to take a little bit and stretch it out. Like my favorite winners are the people that won for like seven minutes of screen time. I agree with you. Yeah.

I think that's what that's for. I think, I think, thank you for adding your voice to this movement, Matt. I think we need to ring the alarm. Oh, I'm fucking ringing the alarm. And the thing is, it really happens every year. But this year, I'm like really disappointed in actors.

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because we should know more than anyone else, like, that, like, the supporting players, like, those are important roles. And it's like, I love that actors love Emily Blunt. You know what I mean? I love Emily Blunt. I live for Emily Blunt. You love her so much, fucking nominate her twice in Lead Actress.

She was fucking great in A Quiet Place. She was great in Mary Poppins. I am positive she's delightful. Have you seen it? Oh, I did because I ranked it. I ranked the soundtrack for Vulture. Oh, yes. Yes, you did, you did, you did.

So fucking good. And I was expecting not to like it because I went to the screening and at the top of it, it was one of those screenings where they come out and not to like it because I went to the screening and at the top of it was one of those screenings where they come out and they're like, you're going to leave with such a smile on your face. And I was like, oh, we'll see about that. We'll see.

And then. You smiled. Wow. Yeah. And also she is unbelievably fuckable in this movie. Like really. That's amazing. A fuckable Mary Popp?

The ranking becomes an exploration of like all of my just like gay sub desires. Mary Popp in her ass, as we once said. Yeah. She's because she's just so where Julie Andrews like played the dry like prim side of it. But she was beautiful. Yes. She's gorgeous. But she's sort of like untouchably beautiful.

Yes. Almost a brunette Hitchcock blonde. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally, totally. But Emily Blunt is like very dry and like domineering. And the way that her first musical moment is her instructing the kids on how to take a bath. And I was like, this is so much for me. Here's how you take a bath.

Like, is that pretty much it yes and then she and then her line readings like she does change it up but so many of them are my favorite kind of line reading where she's just like well i suppose yeah right absolutely you have no idea i'm a fucking obsessed with emily blunt yeah i think emily give her she should have had a supporting actress nomination for devil Wears Prada. Like that, if supporting actress were correctly structured

to show off performances like Emily Blunt's in Devil Wears Prada where it's like a star making moment, then whatever. And that's the thing is it's like,

you get the sense that it's all to make up for something and it's like, don't, just do it right the first time. I hate the concept of like giving all to make up for something. And it's like, don't just do it right the first time. I hate the concept of like giving out an award for another thing.

Like Colin Firth winning for King's Speech when he should have won for single man. I'm like, stop doing this. Oh, my God. Stop. I mean, and they shot their load with Emma in a way. I mean, not that she didn't deserve the win originally. But like if she, I'm sure. No, here's what it is for her, though, is that they don't feel comfortable pushing her as best lead actress because they're like, well, we're not going to take our chances and like have that be in such close proximity with La La Land.

They I think here's what happened. They wanted the nominee. They were they were saying, how do we get the most nominations? Yeah. Whereas I think what they the fair thing to do, and I think what I would have let them get away with, I actually would have let them get away with this, is if they put both Emma Stone and Rachel Weisz in lead,

see where the chips fall where they may, guarantee Emma Stone gets nominated. Rachel Weisz probably loses out. Debatable whether she should or shouldn't, but politically it's probably the way it would go. Olivia Colman would win supporting actress. And I think that out of the three of them if you had to gun to your head say which one is the supporting actress it is olivia olivia and are you saying and then is is the general conversation around olivia that she doesn't have her chances of

winning best lead are not super great well Well, I will not vote for her for best actress for SAG. My reasoning for that is it's not that I don't think it's a great performance. I just think it's not a true leading performance. And out of principle,

I am not voting for... Well, I have to see everything still. It's Gaga. It's Gaga. Wait, everyone's going to be so mad. voting for well i have to see everything still right but it's gaga it's gaga wait everyone's gonna be so mad but i i can't resist it but also can you resist it you're not gonna i well first of all she's non-union uh no you're insane she's union she's been she's simply not union she's been

she's been in search party she's I think a must join after season two season three of search party but

wait you mean she's not union as in Gaga or she's not union as in Natalie oh my god wait you are not union no

oh my god that's ridiculous we have to have a movement she's joining actors equity finally for Alice by Heart. I thought you were reading Lady Gaga

for being non-union. I live for that. What if I was like Gaga's EMC points? She did Summer Stock at Weathervane. I will say this. Despite having the most money here at this table, I guarantee you have... Can you vote?

Did you pay your dues? I did pay my dues. i haven't gotten screeners i they have the wrong address but i'll i'll figure it out you'll figure it out um but listen as if we could all vote what would you say i'm forgetting what else is that oh there's melissa what are the things melissa there's melissa there's um i'll pull it up yeah pull it up yeah let's get like gold derby or whatever there's Olivia there's Melissa there's Miss Gaga Miss Gaga

there is I guess Viola Davis missed it oh there's Emily and Mary Poppins yeah it's not an Oscar you don't feel this way

perform I don't feel this way I loved it but I'm like you're not gonna vote for an Oscar yeah exactly despite Julie Andrews

bizarrely winning for Mary Poppins back in the day yeah and not well it was I feel that the Julie Andrews win was basically them saying like fuck you to Audrey Hepburn wow because they gave Audrey my fair

lady after Julie Andrews originated it and then they passed over Julie when they did the movie version but then Julie did Mary Poppins they didn't even nominate Audrey Hepburn I live for drama like this yeah they didn't even nominate Audrey so I feel like it was sort of

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It's like you're referring to the whole by its parts. Let's hear these noms. We have Emilyily as you said we have glenn close olivia gaga melissa my unnoted enemy from the last i don't think so yes well okay this is gonna make me really i've actually seen i've seen the favorite i've seen um stars seen clearly and I've seen I haven't seen can you ever forgive me I would have to see the wife I honestly might go of those I think I might go with Melissa McCarthy

I really really love that movie she was really good in that movie well for me like she was she was giving you a great performance in such groundedness but like it didn't fully click until that courtroom scene. Yeah. Right?

Yeah. I don't know. But yeah, no. Sometimes it doesn't dawn on you to the courtroom scene, I, Tanya. That's true. I, Tanya. It felt very I, Tanya.

That's a rule of culture. It's rule of culture number 66. Sometimes it doesn't dawn on you until the courtroom scene. I couldn't remember what I said, but you guys remembered it. Famously, last year, who got my vote? Margot. Wow, for SAG? For SAG. And it was the courtroom scene. I couldn't remember what I said, but you guys remembered it. Famously, last year, who got my vote?

Margot. Wow, for SAG? For SAG, and it was the courtroom scene that did it. Yeah. Wow. But mostly that scene

where she was like putting her makeup on. Putting her makeup on? Right. any scene of putting on makeup or taking off makeup, I want to watch forever. Wait,

can you do that for your next audition video? Yes. Makeup scene. Just makeup scene. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've like, private moment. Just makeup scene. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've like. Private moment.

Chloe Fineman, again, has sort of memefied the steering wheel acting. The car, yes. I think. Which I saw like right after I saw Tully. And I was like, oh, steering wheel acting. And then I saw that video from Chloe. And I was like, how? That's her mind.

I feel like you could do like a bathtub acting thing. I'm super into bathtub acting moments with a glass of wine. So many, so many things. Glass of wine or the thing where you like go underwater and just long enough to like need to breathe again

to feel. And you're like, wow. Yes, yes, yes. And you could put like a fake montage over it like of her memory, like of what she's thinking about

so many memories honestly wait you need to do private makeup moment yeah private makeup moment must happen with like maybe like the like interior

like monologue like written below yes yes because I do need more prop work ones I think that's the next frontier

now that I've done a wordless one I feel like I'm just I need to yes that's the note. Now that I've done a wordless one, I feel like I'm just, I need to Yes. That's the note. Continue, continue shifting.

Although I feel like, is this fair to say, I feel like where you mine a lot of the comedy in your other videos is that these are characters who are peripheral

to some lead character. Yes. Is that fair to say? It's like, is it deliberate in that it doesn't, it isn't usually the lead role?

Yeah. Yeah, that's the thing is i feel like the makeup the makeup scenes are usually in movies that i actually like where i think the character is actually compelling legitimately and isn't like a man writing a woman and like yes oh my god but i think but i think i think this is a this is a good except the makeup thing is a good example yes i think i think it's just it's it's like niche enough where it's like yeah i think it's very good you can make it work but anyway yeah this i mean oh and then supporting should we look at supporting yeah it's a it's a joke okay amy adams and vice who you who you love i loved um i loved emily blunt in a quiet place margot robbie mary queen of scott which is insane What? How is that a thing? It's psycho that that's happening.

When the trailer first came out, everyone was pretty gooped. They were like, this looks amazing. This is going to be great. Everyone was gagged for a seer shot. I was the only one saying, I think Margo looks better.

Well, because Margo is like, you're inferior. Margo is doing Eddie Redmayne's voice from Jupiter Ascending. She's doing Eddie Redmayne's voice from Jupiter Ascending. She's doing Eddie Redmayne drag. Yeah, she's totally doing it. She's doing Eddie Redmayne drag drag. That lack of eyebrows, too.

Like, it's all, yeah, it's all Eddie Redmayne drag. That's all it comes back to. And then the favorites. And then the favorites, girls. Yes. I think Rachel Weisz is pretty good. I think Rachel Weisz actually has the hardest part. Well, that's a tough one.

Like Emma gets like the Anne Baxter role, which is like fun and cute and juicy. Yes. I think that Emma Stone has an extremely difficult part because she has to appear like likable to the queen while we know she's being sneaky. And she didn't do this like Reese Witherspoon

and Vanity Fair thing of like, I'm being really sneaky. And it's obvious, but no one that I'm talking to can tell. It's like Emma Stone was genuinely like, you get why the other characters bought into her. Right.

And then Rachel Weisz has to play. Like an old timey Taylor Swift. Exactly. Like. And then Rachel Weisz has to play. Like an old timey Taylor Swift. Exactly. Like appealing. And Rachel Weisz has to play like, I fucking see you bitch. Yeah. And watch it.

And also she just has to stay so strong while also being so shake. They're all three of them are just so fucking good. It's an amazing movie. I loved it. The end. Yeah. Fabulous.

I love him so much. I loved the lobster. I loved killing of a sacred deer. The end? Yeah. Fabulous. I love him so much. I loved The Lobster. I loved Killing of a Sacred Deer. Like, he's just- Miss Yorgos? Yes, Miss Yorgos. Miss Yorgos. He creates a world.

He creates a world, and I- And tone. Love it. Oh, tone. Specific tone. The best. Yeah. Yep, yep, yep, yep.

I forgot that he was Killing of a Sacred Deer. What a different thing. Yeah. He can do it all that bitch and that movie is really fucking good and I wish that it felt like you know what's crazy too

that movie doesn't get an ensemble nomination everyone is good in it even the guys the guys do their job similar to the men in mamma mia where they like know that it's not about them but they're still doing their best yeah like they're committing to it but they also know what their role in the movie is nicholas lift up the women

making a meal out of it making a meal out of a snack nicholas did make a meal out of it and even um the taylor swift's boyfriend owen yeah. He was good. He was very good. He was good. I liked it all pretty much all around. And it's bizarre because it's like, I think it's weird because SAG after really fucked up again with this nominate with the film nominations or the cast nominations because they did both of their things that I think are wrong. They did the thing where it's like,

well, it's a big cast. so it has to be nominated. Bohemian Rhapsody is- I know. It is a hellscape. Crash. I- A terrible film structure.

The ensemble of Bohemian Rhapsody? What? I thought my brain was broken when I read. I really did. Literally, for doing what? What? For doing what? That movie is one of the worst things I've sat through, I think.

Do you remember we almost left? I couldn't see it, but I was just like, who is in the movie? I've heard nothing about any performances even. Not even Rami's performance have I heard anything I found him repellent he was terrible all Rami does is he sticks his fist up in the air and like just the affect

that he takes with with doing Freddie I thought was I thought it was so cheesy and corny that was a fucking sketch performance too absolutely I mean there was moments towards the end where I was like okay I guess it's getting me a little bit but that had so much more to do with

Queen than the movie that music is foolproof yeah yeah yeah you're like oh the music is good like and that's not that doesn't need the container of this film that is two and a half hours long it's like and this is my thing it's like so can you read the nominations for the films?

I believe it's Bohemian Rhapsody, Crazy Rich Asians, Black Panther, and then A Star is Born. And a fifth one. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. So Best Ensemble. Okay. Oh, sorry.

Sorry. I skipped through. A Weekend. Okay. Here we go. Yeah. A Star is Born, Black Panther, Black Klansman, Bohemian Rhapsody, Crazy Rich Asians. Black Klansman, I don't...

I didn't see that. I have to see that still. It was good. It was good. It wasn't like... It wasn't the best Spike Lee. It wasn't like the best like... To me, it's like I have to see Black Klansman still,

but that seems like if they want to nominate that, it's great. But for me, it's like, okay, then we have Black Panther and Crazy Rich Asians. Two big casts. Two great casts. Yeah. But like... but for me it's like okay then we have black panther and crazy rich asians two big cast two great casts yeah but like but but it's like prestige awards yeah i don't know i think black panther's phenomenal and i and i fucking love i live for crazy rich asians they don't feel and it's not that they need to feel awardsy it's just like huh did we just do this because it was

a big cast right right but i still love that they're both nominated but then like on the other side of that it's like then why bohemian rhapsody why star is born bohemian rhapsody i think they i think it probably came out at the right time and like um i think they saw a big cast and i think that off this often happens not a big cast well it is they just don't all don't do anything. Is there literally any person other than Rami Malek that's a person? Really? That's my other criticism with the movie. The supporting characters, it's like the rest of the members of Queen have no personalities.

No personalities. And then it's the woman that he had a relationship with. The most vacant performance ever. And the man that he ended up just relationship with the most vacant performance ever and the man that he ended up just partnering with before he passed away like it's like a truly such peripheral unrealized characters

like yeah that that's Alan Leach who plays the like manipulative gay lover yeah I fucking hate is performing in the movie. He's acting. But it's like what else?

I mean and then with The Star is Born it's like okay you really like the two leads. Those two performances. Yeah. And maybe Sam Elliott.

Right. And then no one else does anything. No one else is given really an opportunity to do anything. It's certainly an ensemble. If Willem and Shangela are like.

They didn't even get nominated as part of the cast. What? Well, then fuck that because those are the only two other characters that I cared about. Yes, yes, yes. Who are you nominating instead of them? Like that stretch of the movie is the best part of the movie. You know what's crazy? The rules are,

and this is a big, I don't think so, honey for me. Okay. Is you have to appear on your own title card to be nominated as part of the cast. So Harry Shum Jr. from Crazy Rich Asians gets nominated.

That's insane. And you know who doesn't? The single mom. You know who doesn't? Oh my God. You could rattle up. Ken Jeong probably? No, no. Ken Jeong does, but I guarantee his wife doesn't? Oh my God. You could rattle up. Ken Jeong probably? No, no, Ken Jeong does,

but I guarantee his wife doesn't. Oh my God. Like big, big roles in the movie. Gemma Chan's husband in the movie does not get a nomination. Wow. Major parts of the film. Major roles.

Harry Shum Jr. Fucking God bless your agent. For saying no words. For appearing in the post credits. I love Glee. For appearing in the post credits. I love Glee. For appearing in the post credits. I mean, between those movies, for me, what makes the most sense is honestly Black Panther. Yeah.

That's probably what. Because great ensemble, great performances across the board. Yes. Across the board. But can I say something controversial? What? It's crazy to me that the person being singled out as the one who gives the best slash most memorable performance that people are maybe supporting actor is Michael B. Jordan.

What about that? I think he gives the weakest performance in the movie. I don't think so. He literally Googled how to play a villain and showed up and acted tough. I think that if there's a performance in that movie that is superlative, it is Danai Gurira. Oh, I think Danai Gurira is absolutely a star.

What you're talking about with Michael B. Jordan is actually something that I loved about his performance because I felt like that character, because of his past, because of, yeah, he would have like tried to harden himself after like that heartbreaking disappointment and like a moment with his father like that once that moment between him and sterling k brown happened i was like oh i get it He has like invented this protective persona of a bad guy. Like all of this is stemming from that.

And then I felt like that also carried through to his, uh, his climactic scene. Like there, there was so much vulnerability there. Um, so I felt like it was sort of a dam bursting type thing. Um,

so I actually, I really, I really love him in that movie. For me, it's, it is Deny Guerrero Erasure to not watch, to watch that movie

and not be like the supporting performance in this movie that we should be talking about is her. Sure, sure, sure. And I feel like it's because she's not as big of a star.

Sure. Sure, but she will be fine. I think she'll be fine, honey. She's a Broadway playwright. I want to give credit where it's due, the nomination. But of course, when we're talking about, when we are literally having this thing of...

It's okay. I pooped earlier. Yeah, I spilled milk. I spilled milk and now I'm crying over it. Famously, it's rule of culture number 80. What do we not do over spilled milk? We don't cry. We don't cry over spilled milk. We don't cry. But it's rule of culture number 80 what do we not do over spilled milk we don't cry over spilled milk but it's just interesting to me obviously the industry is like

chomping at the bit to want to reward Michael B. Jordan and I think it's like okay I know we're excited about this movie but for me anyway I hear what you're saying I hear what you're saying but I also hear what you're saying because I like noticed it but I felt like it was part of his performance and that's stuff that i'm always right down to discuss like i'm so much more interested in discussing from a standpoint of

like i see what this actor was doing right then i am from the standpoint of like oh they're bad like i saw michelle williams in cabaret and i loved what she did and then i felt like a lot of the reviews were just like, she was bad. And I'm like, no, that's the point. And she's doing a thing. And it's actually so stupid to be like, she's bad because she's one of the smartest actresses around, I think. She's so good in I Feel Pretty, which like I didn't live for the movie, but she's brilliant in it. She is like the most compelling part of it.

She's like giving you a baby Madeline Khan performance and I was so happy to see her like being dumb and having fun at the end at the gal or whatever the big event is like that is like the true like the beat before she starts talking is the beat yeah yes when she shows up

it's like it's insane and it's inspired and it is brilliant and I'm sure it's all intentional and deliberate and you know when she has her head on the table she's like, it's insane and it's inspired and it is brilliant. And I'm sure it's all intentional and deliberate. When she has her head on the table. She's like, hey. Although I will say she's absolutely heinous in Venom. She's so bad in Venom. I did not see Venom, unfortunately.

No, I have to see Venom. I was just like, why is she in this one? Like, what possessed her to do this one? Money, money. And it shot in New York. It shot in New York. Oh, yes. You know if she's in a movie,'s in a movie it probably shot i'm so excited for her in the fossy show i'm gonna lose my mind oh wow i totally forgot yeah she's she's gwen burden in the fossy show with sam rockwell wait so i'm sorry i'm so oh no no worries so play dumb so it's a foss it's a it's a Bob Fosse-like retro thing? Retrospective thing? No, it's...

FX is doing it, I believe. And it's... It's a TV show? Yeah, it's a miniseries. I think it's looking at a specific section of his life. I forget which show he's working on in the context of the show. But it's Sam Rockwell as Bob Fosse.

Great. And Michelle as Gwen Verdon. Gwen as gwen verdon and i'm so excited for it and there are like a bunch of norbert leo butts is playing patty schayefsky like it's yeah it's they're really casting like a bunch of legit theater actors to round out round out the cast but i'm i love that excited about it i mean michelle fucking books work michelle bucks i mean she's in like a lot of shit and good for her yeah oh it's great for her whenever i see her happy it really does fill my spirit because you know there have been periods of her life where she has been unhappy of course so we love to see her happy we'd love to see her

even when she's absolutely learning her lines 15 minutes before in venom there's a scene where she gets fired from her job because and she's like she's literally what if the movie is horrible stop but jenny slate but you've said jenny slate is by far the best part of it because she knows how bad the movie is yes i was talking to someone about your assessment of her in that movie the other day. Right before she dies, she goes, No! 30 plus year old woman who's someone who's lived a

full adult life until that point. No, she's gonna die. The way she feels about her life ending is, no! Oh, no. Holy shit. It's so genius honestly that maybe i love that what is the part of the movie that michelle williams gets fired in that you were gonna say so she gets fired because tom hardy does some shit where like she like he like use it's his girlfriend is michelle williams and he like uses like some stuff at her job she's like a big time fancy lawyer and then she's like carrying her little box of shit outside of her like

corporate building and she goes you are unbelievable i can't believe this how could you and it's like less personality and character than that and you're like you're like you know what don't call me anymore and they like live together she's like she like marches down the street and then like I don't know it's the funniest and they were roommates honestly maybe it's

maybe she's actually a genius in it like okay I don't know are we getting a revived discussion around camp because I feel like

I mean A Star is Born sort of kicked that into gear maybe Venom is camp maybe Venom is camp I'll tell you what was camp Nutcracker in the Four Realms was camp

I can't bring myself no I refuse to see Keira Knightley is doing Venom is Cam. Maybe Venom is Cam. I'll tell you what was Cam. Nutcracker in the Four Realms was Cam. I can't bring myself. No, I refuse to see. Keira Knightley is doing Bernadette Peters as Moaning Myrtle, and it is unbelievable. Oh, my God. The layers in that. Keira Knightley, Moaning Myrtle, Bernadette.

Because you can do impressions of all of them. Truly reference trigonometry in my brain. Keira Knightley has a big heel turn as the Sugar Plum Fairy, where it turns out she was evil the whole time. Yes, I love that. And it's literally a moment where like, the whole movie she's been talking like this. And then she like mobilizes the toy soldiers she has just brought to life against Clara.

And then the first thing she does is she turns back once their person says. And she goes, oh, hello, boys. And it's unreal. I truly gasped in the theater. Honestly?

Hello, boys. The thing is, though, you had to think maybe that was going to happen because whenever there's like a huge actor in a part and you're like, why are they in this part? Your boys have to ask that question. Are they evil?

Yeah. Richard E. Grant is the nutcracker of the four realms. He is like the king of the shiver realm. He's the king of the snow realm. He's fucking booking all of a sudden. He's the fucking, Oh my God.

Why am I blanking on his name from last year? Uh, just to call me by your name. And, uh, Oh, still bark. He's the fucking, oh my God, why am I blanking on his name from last year? Just call me by your name and- Oh, Stuhlbarg. Michael Stuhlbarg. Yeah, Stuhlbarg. He's like the Stuhlbarg of this year. Feels that way.

Yeah. He's popping up in everything. Yeah. Prestige movies. Prestige movies. Can you ever forgive me and Nutcracker before else? To me, to me- Iowa Debris is obsessed with him

and like keeps having like- Richard E. Grant? Yes, like full on threads of Iowa like thirsting for richard e grant and it destroys me and now she like because she knows that i saw his two major films this year she will text me like just photos of him i'm just being like natalie natalie what's wrong with me i was yeah i've seen i has instagram stories story i think she's included richard in some

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So what was the culture, Natalie Walker, that made you say culture is, for me, it was the culture that formed you at a young age that truly brought you. It's a whirlwind, but you ended up in this chair right now. Yes, yes. I am sort of a 50-50 split between both of my parents. And both of my parents have like wildly disparate cultural influences. And so from my dad, my dad had a whole collection of VHS tapes of The Twilight Zone with a huge booklet that he got on eBay in the early days that was a synopsis of every episode before DVDs came with that stuff. And so there was a huge booklet with synopses of every episode. And I loved watching those so much.

We've never had this before. Yeah, I really love Twilight Zone and I'm so excited for the Jordan Peele version. Every announcement about the Jordan Peele version. The casting is crazy. It's incredible. It's so fun. I'm so excited. I just got chills thinking about it.

Yeah, like the one thing I do want so badly and when I was at Comic-Con for Vulture, there was, oh God, what was his name? I feel so bad, but he is the co-producer on new twilight zone but he was there to plug the new um oh jean gray movie oh sure turner and so they brought him in and with all of those i was like i don't care about the actual comic-con thing i was like i want to get into twilight zone so i I was like we talked about Twilight Zone

forever and I was just like all I want is a remake of Time Enough at Last with Jeffrey Wright in the Burgess Meredith role because that's one of my favorite episodes of Twilight Zone ever but I would watch those all the time I love Time Enough at Last which is

the one where he just wants to like read books and his wife is horrible to him and everyone is mean to him and then he like goes down into the like basement of his office and he and like there's a huge bomb that goes off above ground and he like comes back up and everyone is gone but then he's like walking around and there's a library and he's like oh i have all the time to read all of these books like all of these books are mine and then his glasses break and he is blind without them and he's just alone with all these books and it's the most heartbreaking thing because i'm i'm legally blind without my contacts um so like and i like grew up with like coke bottle glasses i had no friends growing up like none at all and so i like really

felt for this like oh sad sad middle-aged man um with a bitch wife who now i'm like maybe we should do it where it's gender because really a big part of it looking back is that his wife is a nightmare bitch yeah and you can play the truth of that that's me um i love that one i love um monsters are due on maple street is one where like this whole street just like random lights keep going off and it's like a mccarthyism uh parallel this show is so amazing it's so good and I feel like now is the exact right time to bring it back because like so much of it in its original incarnation was like about social parallels. And Jordan Peele is obviously the exact right person to do it. They tried to reboot it in 2002, which is a very fun, like bad watch.

There's an episode where Katherine Heigl. I remember this. Yes. Wasn't Jessica Simpson also on one? Yes, she was. A baby Katherine Heigl goes back in time to kill Hitler. But like she goes back too far. And she's Hitler's babysitter.

We have to watch. You truly have to. It's an episode called Cradle of Darkness. And it is truly unreal. It is unreal. It's an episode called Cradle of Darkness and it is truly unreal. It is unreal. There's a spoiler. There's the way that that ending happens is wild and I won't spoil it for you

because it is like a camp classic to me. It's insane. We have to see that. Maybe even today. She's like 22 or something during it. Forrest Whitaker does the Rod Serling like voiceovers and stuff. Yeah.

Yeah. It's wild. Molly Sims does Eye of the Beholder, which is another one of my favorite episodes. Yeah. It's all of these people that are either about to become huge or are people that Hollywood thought was going to be huge. It was like, ooh, these are the next people. Oh, Amber Tamblyn is in an episode.

It's wild. But I'm excited for an actual good one. Yes. Yes. It's one of my goals as an actor. It's wild. I'm excited for an actual good one. Yes, yes, yes. It's one of my goals as an actor to do something scary. Yes. I really want to do something scary. And you know what's crazy? I hate scary shit.

Me too. It really bothers me. Yeah. But I always, in my writing sometimes, I would love to perform something scary because I love immersive stuff like that. Stuff that I don't understand oh my god you won't even watch killing eve because you think it's too scary no it's not well anyway and it's

how dare you olivia coleman's in that oh no no no no no no no olivia coleman's in fleabag i'm so sorry yeah yeah fiona shaw's and yeah but olivia coleman is in fleabag that you have to see yes i haven't seen the whole way through. I know, I'm so, I'm bad. So listen, but I want to get back into Twilight Zone because I want to connect it to something. But what was the other 50%? The other 50% is from my mom. And my mom was more musically inclined.

And my mom also like volunteered at our church. And like, she's not super religious now. Like she never goes. But I think she just like wanted to be in charge of as many things as possible so she would like direct our i know the type yeah she would direct our christmas pageant every year and she put in uh she like scrapped the script from before she was running it and then she was like we're gonna put in all these songs from Preacher's Wife and like Who Would Imagine a King and Sister

Act and so like my mom put all of those songs in and so Sister Act 2 I feel like was very incredibly formative truly one of my favorite favorite movies and it makes me absolutely it makes me crazy that they did a Broadway musical of the lesser Sister Act it's how can you not have

Joyful Joyful how can you not have joyful joyful how can you come on it's one of those examples of a sequel that is so objectively superior to the original I've never happened Cheryl Lee Ralph speaking of support and making a meal out of a snack Cheryl Lee Ralph has an entire arc

over the course of joyful joyful in three cutaway shots to Cheryl Lee Ralph she's mad and we're like, oh no, she's not gonna support. Middle of the song, she's kind of getting into it and she lives, she lives and we went on a whole journey. The line, I am so proud of you. That is acting.

Yeah, the line, take off your robes. Your teacher says take off your robes is one of my favorite things. Your teacher says take off your robes. Your teacher says take off your robes is one of my favorite things. Your teacher says take off your robes. Headset. Harried headset woman. Booked it. Booked it. Booked it.

Your teacher says take off your robes. What? I've never seen that. It's so good. Never yell at me. Baby Lauren Hill. Never yell at me. Never yell at, shut up.

Baby Lauren Hill. I may have seen clips. Baby Jennifer Love Hewitt is the token white girl in the class doing nothing. Great. Yeah yell at, shut up. Baby Lauren Hill. I may have seen clips. Baby Jennifer Love Hewitt is the token white girl in the class doing nothing. Great. Yeah. Love it.

Incredible. And iconic whoopie. Yeah, of course. Iconic whoopie. Oh, happy day when she's, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. Oh, God.

The best. The best. So that was the other. There's a scene where a male student hits a whistle tone. When Jesus. Oh, and Matt. Yeah, you got it.

It was higher than that. It is wild. Oh, my God. Such a good movie. Yeah. And Lauren Hill, when she sinks his eyes on the sparrow, that was a star is born moment. Yeah. Oh.

It's her and her best friend in the movie are just like sitting at a piano and they do the most gorgeous harmonies. Sl's and then they have this exchange where um lauren's like goes to the friend she goes hey you could really make it and she goes no this is for church you could really make it and lauren's like well i don't know and then basically you start what you get from the scene is that she could really make it yes and famously lauren hill really made it she really made actually rule of culture number 103 famously lauren hill really really made it i don't know if she did that that's debatable she won many grammys yeah well no but then but now it's like it's what a tragic story but now it's just whatever we've we've had a whole with chloe we had a whole discussion about chloe about what about miseducation miseducation um anyway um uh this is these are two great

pieces and they they do sort of add more texture to natalie what natalie does i think i think it's we obviously have the performance yes and the creation can i connect something yes i famously am a am a walt disney world gay yes now being the fan of twilight zone that you are have you experienced the tower of terror oh i have i have i was very scared i want to go back so badly i have not been to disney forever and being a huge fanatic of the podcast as I am, I've heard so much about Disney. And I'm like, oh, every time you make me want to go.

You make me want to go back. But I did, I did go. The last time I was there when I was like 13 or something. I was so scared. I was so scared. I think that the Tower of Terror crosses over into art actually.

It is. It is actually an artful ride and the entire experience is amazing. And even when you're- It is. It is actually an artful ride. And the entire experience is amazing. It's what Sleep No More wishes it was. Honestly. Sleep No More could only dream of being Tower of Terror. Whenever the cast members at Tower of Terror are getting lazy and being nice, I'm like, no, no, no.

No, no, that's not it. You have to commit. And when they're scary, that is when it is art. I have to tell you like from from you're right from beginning to end the tower of terror is if they ever tear it down like to put some bullshit with their ip up i'm gonna i'm gonna actually go down there and protest because i feel it should be a national landmark yeah i'm not even kidding we have to have towers of Terror on this planet because if we lose it I will be so it's one of our

greatest natural resources we have to it's like it's like it's like honestly like the Arc de Triomphe this thing that most that people with disabilities

cannot access no they can they can it is ADA compliant and you know it it is it is ADA compliant it's actually

rule of culture number 44 the Tower of Terror is ADA compliant and you know it and it is it is a rule of culture number 44 the tower of terror is compliant and you know wait honestly it's so fucking good and and like i love that like you can go there now and experience that piece of culture that is the twilight zone through that theme park attraction which millions of people do every every day yeah you know i i love millions thousands um millions do every year yes roughly yes but um i have to tell you what's happening in orlando right now what they're gearing up for is a shake him up a shake him up it's shake him up are you when's the last time you went to disney world it's been a long time like a normal person yeah no no it was my like junior year of college or something

oh okay so it's been sort of recent it's yeah it's sort of it's sort of recent but i like didn't have that much time and i i don't have the encyclopedic knowledge of it i have large swaths of uh blind spots. I wouldn't dare take up a ton of time with this on the podcast, but I feel that in the early days, I used to really give updates

and I just want to give a short update. Okay, all right, all right. So Star Wars Land is coming and it looks like the gag du jour where it's going to be a Millennium Falcon attraction.

When is it opening? It's opening like late fall. 2019. 2019. So this year. Yes. There's going to be a Millennium Falcon attraction, which one, it's going to be six people.

One is the pilot. One's like the shooter. One's like the this, one's the that. It's going to be a gag. Literally. It's going to be a gag. Well, there'll be like a hologram Oscar Isaac. Ooh.

Because I would be into it. Yeah, for sure. He could break my arm. Then there's going to be a Battle of the First Order attraction, which is like more of a dark ride experience and that whole thing. And those are the two attractions there.

There's going to be a cantina, which is like an absurd alcohol, which, you know, is different for Disney. Very much da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Very much. Very that. Toy Story Land is up and roaring.

I have to just add something by the end of this but yeah keep going um epcot's getting a guardian to the galaxy roller coaster which is the biggest building in epcot it's going to be state-of-the-art you can look and see what kind of technology they're using for the ride system it's going to be out of control it's going to be able to swing 360 and be a fully launched roller coaster um you are fucking no i just want you to get through this yeah you um and etc and also over at universal there's going to be a harry potter roller coaster which will be the most highly themed full roller coaster in orlando i don't i don't know what that means highly it means you

get butter beer at the top you guys are turning me you get points and then you go into a bathtub bathtub I play Moaning Myrtle yes and then I come out Natalie Walker does Keira Knightley doing Moaning Myrtle with a Bernadette voice

yes yes yes and then she does Unexpected Song yes there's rumors that we're getting a Jurassic Park rollercoaster

that will be themed to raptors that will be potentially as high as 200 feet and be launched and be the fastest rollercoaster in our land and you have to wear heels when you're on the coaster now go ahead and drag me bitch what I'm not dragging you I'm just saying to Raptors. That will be potentially as high as 200 feet and be launched and be the fastest roller coaster

in our land. And you have to wear heels when you're on the coaster. Now go ahead and drag me, bitch. What? I'm not dragging you. I'm just saying some of,

I love a coaster. Well, actually, no. The more I have, the more I evolve in my relationship to theme parks, the more I realize that coasters are key

and Coasters are key. Those more, like, that Millennium Falcon ride that you just described i was like as soon as you said that i was like okay like cool there's a pilot there's a this there's a that there's a that like literally all that amounts to is one person pressing a button when they're

literally yes like it's it doesn't matter it doesn't matter and but then but then i'm thinking oh but the coasters are what i actually like though those are like because the button thing it's like well i can just stay at home and play a video game. And you often do. As I often do. But then it's the coaster. It's the highly themed coasters. We need highly themed coasters.

And don't worry because they're coming. I sometimes feel that these theme parks try to impress us with screens and buttons. And it's just, I can get that anywhere, babe. I just truly, I don't need to pay upwards of hundreds of dollars to play a video game. Exactly. Oh, do you have an update on Tron Roller Coaster coming? Yes, it's coming in 2021.

And they've just broken ground. That's too late. It's for the 50th anniversary of Magic Kingdom. And also all of Tomorrowland. Oh, so it's just Disney World for now? Just Disney World for now, but Orlando's getting it, and it's coming in 2021. Ground has been broken.

They've shut down the railroad in order to do it, and they're going to move the Tomorrowland Speedway to make room for this, and it's going to go right behind Space Mountain. Wow. And all of Tomorrowland is getting a visual rebrand to go along with Tron because it's going to go right behind Space Mountain and all of Tomorrowland is getting a visual rebrand to go along with Tron because it's hard to do the future.

It's hard to make it seem futuristic when Tron's there but also a lot of people are, would you agree that I feel like Light Cycle is the spiritual successor of Space Mountain and to put that next to Space Mountain is very much an all about Eve situation. They will fight. They will fight.

It will be tense. The 100 yards between the two attractions will be tense it'll be a tent 100 yards here's here's what you will never get anywhere else tower of terror is the addison dewitt you are a bitch you will never get this on any other podcast where we describe walt disney world rides in terms of addison dewitt in terms of Betty, in terms of Anne Baxter, bitch. No. We're comparing, like, this is what you get here. Yes. Celeste Holm is a foot.

Her spirit is felt. Yes, yes. She is a foot. I just, like, it's been a while since I spoke. No, no, yes. I'm glad you did. Anne, I want to propose something to you. Okay.

Off the mic. Just because I had a trip fall through and did and I Want to propose something to you Off the mic just cause I had a trip fall through and I Think I need to go I need to go very soon much Sooner and it might even have to be an impromptu trip In the next few weeks that's what I'm Saying wow bitch okay Listen I have some updates for you

I'm thrilled to have these updates I'm unhappy to hear That a trip fell through yes well For good reasons and for bad but yes Okay well listen I'm always down to go Like. I'm unhappy to hear that a trip fell through. Yes. For you. For good reasons and for bad, but yes. Okay. Well, listen, I'm always down to go. Like, here's the thing. Like, I am a theme park queen. We know this.

Yes. Yes. Yeah. Do you even do Six Flags? I do. I do Six Flags. I have done Six Flags historically. You don't have to appease him.

I promise. Guys, please. I just sort of like want him to find something. What's even your culture? She's talking about art, like Twilight, classic TV. And we're like, I fully use it as an opening to talk about Disney World. Guys, be sure to check out Disney. Be sure to check out Disney.

Disney.com. Follow them on all platforms. Like and subscribe to Disney. Oh my God, we are dancing. Rod Serling, I think maybe the hottest man. Yes. He was fucking hot. He could have pinned me down.

Brows. That voice. Brows for JSU. You're about to enter another dimension. That wasn't good. It wasn't as nasal. It's deeper. Yeah, it's deeper.

You're about to enter another dimension. Ooh, this is good. It's a clenched lip. Yeah, you're right. I can't. Oh, wow. It's deeper. Yeah, it's deeper. You're about to enter another dimension. Ooh, this is good. It's a clenched lip. Yeah, you're right. I can't. Oh, wow. I can't. Cohen.

Shut up. Cohen, honestly, your impressions, when you did Pat Regan at the start of this episode, I really and truly had to cover my mouth. It was a mouth cover. He's a shocking impressionista. Oh, stop. You guys should do a show as

Kat and Pat that would be I can do Catherine Cohen I know you can I know all her songs yeah

and we have the same pianist and you have the same pianist I could I've seen Pat sad enough times now that I could do it you just slipped into Pat Regan

that's slipped into Pat the phrasing yeah the phrasing was this isn't because we're good this is because they're both caricatures of human beings that is that is it they just have established identities yeah um but listen we love we love and like also i had a lot of fun with Pat. I don't think so, honey. You were deeply missed. I loved the episodes.

But you know what everyone said? Everyone was like, it's weird to see you be the straight man. I was like, yeah, because Pat Regan is the unusual thing wherever he goes. Always straight man to Pat. Yes. Yes. Oh, my God. We love.

But here's the thing is I would almost move that. We know it's my dream. It's my goal. It's my fucking dream to take everyone I love in this community and supplant them in Orlando. Yes. For a week. And then I think you would love.

I truly would love that. It would be an actual dream come true. To go with my celebrity, to go with my number one celebrity crushes, Madame Bowen. Oh my God. Truly insane. And we have, we have pals there now there now yeah and that worked out that that listened to the pod and like oh my god it's been

so long since i've talked about it and now they're now they might gag oh that that that you're talking about no that i'm talking about the theme parks in general because i feel that there's a contingency of people that listen to this podcast that want to hear the breaking tea. And we have some. Oh, and for people in Orlando who are distraught that we are not stopping by there for the tour. We're working on it. We're going to work on it. We would love to. And same goes for Chicago.

Same goes for Denver. Same goes for Atlanta. We're going to try to make this happen. Maybe that can be like a good reason to go down there as we book a show in Orlando. Yeah, wait. I would go down if as we book a show in Orlando. Yeah, wait. I would go down if you need a guest for the Orlando show. I think we do a video. The show is

there's a segment that's or the whole thing is just built around Natalie Walker's first experience. Right. Wait, do you want to gag really quick? I do. Put our tour together. Book the dates. February 24th, we're going to San really quick? I do. Put our tour together. Book the dates. February 24th, we're going to San Francisco. Guess what night that is?

Oscars. The Academy Awards. So first we were like, Oscar night. But first we were like, oh shoot. But then of course Matt had the brilliant idea of just making it like a part, like a viewing party. We're going to lean into it. We're going to lean into it.

And then during commercial breaks have I Don't Think So Honeys that are maybe Oscar themed or movie themed or something. That's actually perfect. So then, so that's how I would want to watch the Oscars. There you go. And it's a party

and we'll have, you know, there'll be drinks, there'll be food, it'll be fun. We're going to lean in because we have to. We have to.

Because we've already announced the show like literally the day before Bowen goes, the day before we announced that it was going on sale. Yes. Because we already announced the date and Bowen was like,

oh my God, it's the night of the Oscars. What should we do? And I was like, I feel like we can't. We can't change it. Yeah. Yeah.

You have to just leave it. No. It'll be great. You're the culturistas watching live commentary. The night of culture. And I will say this.

I will say this. I think you can agree. If we're watching it and Lady Gaga doesn't win, it's going to feel bad. We're going to want her to win. What do you mean? Just in the room? Just us? The three of us?

No, no, no. I'm saying like the night of the Oscars. The night of the Oscars. Yes. If she doesn't win. If we are there with all those gays that come out to see the show and best actress rolls around. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If she doesn't win the award, I feel like it's going to be disappointing. I mean, sure, but that's not specific to us. What do you mean? No, I'm just saying there's a discussion about whether or not Lady Gaga actually deserves to win.

I don't think people are going to be that disappointed. If she wins? If she doesn't win. Honestly, remember that there are 99 people in any room that don't believe in her. That's true. I said, if she does that during the oscar speech i'm gonna fucking she won't i feel like she knows

it's a meme now yeah she's like there that's honestly why i'm surprised that it continued as long as it did because she feels so in control of public perception of her and her brand. Yes. That it was wild to watch her do this same like studio spiel over and over. Thank God Jonah Hill said something. I, oh, we needed his voice. We needed. I,

I did, I did rewatch the super cut again this week and it made me laugh and laugh. I was like, this is so funny. The subtle ways that she changes it. It's unbelievable. It feels like when you are going in for like one line

on an episode of a TV show and you're just standing in front of your mirror and you're like, you can go in if you want now. You can go in if you want now. You can go in if you want now. Title of that? You can go in if you want now. I've done so many auditions for like mean reception like vaguely mean receptionist is sort of my deal right now

just constantly going in for those and not getting them but just being like why am i here oh story i mean i i just i had a callback for a duncan not duncan donuts duncan commercial which i thought i fucking slayed but the one line. It was weird because the first audition was just one line, and then I came back and the character had been blown out. And I had tons of lines all of a sudden. I'm like, they wanted to see the improv and all that

shit, and I really thought I booked, but didn't book. And that's why I'm here today. No, I would have been there. Boston, Massachusetts, but didn't book. Despite slaying. But the line was, the password is Duncan. No, the password is

the password is hockey. And I was like, password's hockey. You don't sound natural saying hockey. You don't sound natural saying that word. No, I agree. And I'm sorry, what was the context? Are you, is this like a commercial?

I was a Dunkin' Donuts employee who was telling someone the Wi-Fi password of the hockey rink. Okay, let's do some readings between me and Natalie. Let's just do a LeRonde of readings. This is one of my favorite games. Come on, let's go. Okay. Here we go. Oh, the password is hockey.

Great, okay. The password's hockey great okay the password's hockey the password is hockey wow let's do two more rounds okay okay the password it's hockey the password is hockey. The password is hockey. That wouldn't book me the gig. That would? That would not. Okay.

That's what I did. Was that bad in the audition? Yes. So, listeners, you can vote. You can vote on which one you like the best for which one you like the best title up the password is hockey none of us did a Boston accent that was our failing

the password is hockey I'm John F. Kennedy and the password is hockey oh and he's John F. Kennedy JFK the password is hockey that's, and he's John F. Kennedy. JFK, the password is hockey. That's very good. Boston lobster. I can only I only learned like what JFK's voice sounded like

in air quotes from Clone High. It's like I can only do lines from Clone High where he's like, I want a party platter. It's incredible. Hold on. Wait. And the Simpsons. I haven't seen it yet. Matt Damon just hosted SNL. Did he do a Boston accent? He did. He did a Boston accent. Thank God. Oh, yeah. It's incredible. Hold on. Wait. And the Simpsons. I haven't seen it yet. Matt Damon just hosted SNL. Did he do a Boston accent? He did.

He did a Boston accent. Thank God. Thank God. Oh, yeah. The boxers. Oh, yeah. Heidi did Angel, Every Boxer's Girlfriend. So good.

Yes. Yes. I love that so much. And someone once responded to the audition videos and was like, isn't Heidi Gardner doing this bit on SNL? And I was like, I've been doing these for two years. Oh, yeah. Gardner doing this bit on SNL and I was like I've been doing these for two years oh yeah so it's possible that like more than one

woman is annoyed by reductive female characters in film like it's not a thing that only one person has a monopoly on of just being like hey a lot of female characters in male driven films are not great it's like come on do something with it yeah totally so annoying

also to be honest, Amy Adams did it first, so maybe we should toss Heidi and Natalie out. Amy. I love her. We love Amy. We love Amy.

Drop dead gorgeous. Drop dead gorgeous. She's so great. Her first role, Amy is so good in Vice. I can't wait to see it. And if she were to win the Oscar for this,

I'd be like bummed because I want her to win a Best Actress Oscar, but she is very, very good at this. In a Viola sort of way, where it's like you deserve the world. You deserve more. I want to make sure you get something.

It's unfair of me to say this without having seen it, but I feel like Vice makes more sense as a Best Ensemble. Yeah. It certainly does. It feels like such a well-rounded cast. Isn't Tyler Perry Colin Powell? Yeah, he's good. He's really good. The whole cast is good. ensemble yeah it certainly does like it just it feels like such a well-rounded perry colin powell yeah he's good great he's really good what was the other prestige thing that he did where he wasn't girl gone girl yeah he was great and he was really good and gone i really like it's weird

too because tyler perry is like absolutely huge but every time he's in a movie is that part of the ensemble it really works it works because so much of his brand is like not looking like himself in things right right and so i went to this vice sag screening and afterwards they did a talk back with adam mckay amy adams and a bunch of the crew members and you were in the same room i was in the same room as aim and um adam mckay and his scarf um Love that. But basically what happened was they were talking about Colin Powell. They were talking about Tyler Perry and Tyler Perry had to call Colin Powell and like get his blessing. And like he said, only Tyler Perry could just call Colin Powell. Sure.

But apparently like they talked because this is not like a good it doesn't depict like a good moment in colin powell's life right right but like colin powell was fully cool about it he was like yeah i mean that is what happened like this is the truth of the situation play it as truthfully as possible i went out there against my better judgment and said they were weapons of mass destruction out of without a doubt and i i knew my instinct told me otherwise and i did exactly what they told me to do and play that god wow has he has colin powell himself i mean i don't know if any of us know the answer to this has he like come out and like said as much like in public he's called and this is in the movie he's called it the worst day of his life the day when he had

to get up in front of everyone and be like without a doubt like we're doing the right thing they say in the movie like it's a really good scene where tyler perry is saying it and then you kind of see on his face he's uneasy about it and the voiceover over it is like colin powell would later call this the worst i mean wow i mean like that is like whatever like it the fact that it happened in real life and that led to this horrible war is like terrible but like that is like meaty meaty meaty meaty meaty role yeah there is a lot of criticism of advice calling it the michael moore of movies which is like terrible but like that is like meaty meaty meaty meaty meaty role yeah there is a lot of criticism about vice calling it the michael moore of movies which is not not true

but the thing is i thought vice was excellent and i think adam mckay is genius yeah genius he's fantastic and not only just like his scripts are so clear his his worlds are it's so cohesive amongst all the actors even when it gets like mealy like you were saying like it still feels right um and he gives his actors really fun stuff to do i can't wait for

you guys to see this movie to see this one scene between amy adams and christian bale which is like there's so many moments in the script that just like are like wow you don't see movies have fun with themselves like this yeah and there's this one scene where it's, it's very, very cool. And it gives the actors a really cool opportunity. And it's like a, it's like a sub, it's like a knowing subversion,

but it's so funny. I love that. And it's so truthful and real. And I mean, there's also some really real moments that have to do with Mary Chaney, who's played by Alison pill in the film, um, about how,

you know, her family really like ultimately really left her out to dry in a crazy way. And like, it's, it's a, it's a good movie and I, I, it's coming out kind of late,

but it's still getting the awards attention deservedly. And I think that it's, I think it'll actually make a splash at the Oscars, especially screenplay. I'm always so excited to see anything. Amy Adams says she's in this category of actresses where they can do any genre and I am obsessed with

that and it's what I love about Emily Blunt Rose Byrne is very much in that place Charlize Charlize is amazing Charlize kills me in everything and always like knows what movie she's in like never seems floundering at all.

Yes. Even at this point, Melissa McCarthy. Yes. She's like crossed over to this space now. She can do any genre. Yeah. If you think about the range that it would take to do something like Sandra,

Sandra doing fucking killing eat. Like, Oh yeah. It's comedic. It's drama. Yeah. It's any genre and is able to seamlessly use all of her talents to bring it all to life. Think about being one actress and doing Monster and

Mad Max Fury Road and Young Adult. And Tully. And all these things. And fucking Snow White and the Huntsman, which is not a good movie, but she is incredible in it. She knows exactly what it is.

And I would, oh my God, I would rather watch that performance than like most male prestige movie performances. Well, that's what I was thinking. I was like, I don't feel this way about male actors at all. I don't care about whatever their quote unquote versatility is because they don't, I don't know. It's like, it's just so wooden in that way where they'reatility is because they don't I don't know it's like it's just so wooden in that way where they're just like they

don't want either they don't have the opportunities to do that kind of fun stuff or it's like they just are bad and I feel like also male actors weirdly get away with so much more hair and makeup and prosthetic acting and we don't talk about it right right

whereas like when a woman like puts on a fake nose or something to play a historical figure everyone's like let's talk about the nose for a million years or whatever or like margot robbie like yes the hair and makeup team like does a great job on that movie but like she's not unrecognizable in mary queen of scotts and all of these pieces are being done about it that sort of like undermine the acting work that women do whenever they use hair and makeup and prosthetics. And then meanwhile, like, I feel like Gary Oldman, like all of these actors that I'm like,

they just gave you a fucking new face. And you did, and you yelled and that was it. And like, it doesn't get covered as much as when women do like one thing to alter their appearance for something. It makes me insane that is interesting i will shout out one actor and i'm going to start talking about vice again one actor who i think actually is really fucking good steve carell no well steve carell

i think is great welcome to marwin he's always just performing what the fuck is welcome to marwin i'm sorry no one will ever know the other night was just welcoming me to marwin over and over we were in a concert together and she was just like she kept going through this door to the bar and she kept location tagging marwin you're gonna love it you're gonna love it oh no she was just like welcome just wouldn't say the actual title but just kept saying it what a dummy the actor I was going to shout out was Christian Bale he's so fucking good

and he's so talented and he does a lot of different versatile things so I will give one actor a shout out and it's Christian Bale and Richard E. Grant and also you know who I have a crush on? who? Lucas Hedges

oh yes I love that sweet boy. He's your type. Stop it. You're cruel. I just said he's your type. His little breakdown in Lady Bird was so sweet. Why did you say that?

Because you have a crush on him. I was like, yeah, he's like the Matt Rogers type. What do you mean by that? He's like a sweet little white boy. Yeah, exactly right. And that's fine. He thinks I don't contain multitudes. Sexually.

No. Meanwhile, he has no idea what I jack off to. Uh-huh. No idea. No idea. What do you jack off to? What am I jacking off to? Yeah, he's gonna lie.

I don't... I've talked about this in the past. Jack off to all sorts of things. Exactly. No, I mean, same. Huh? Same. Yes. What do you jack off to all sorts of things. Exactly. No, I mean, same. Huh? Same. Yes.

What do you jack off to? Oh, variety. I love porn. Variety the magazine. You just love industry. I love porn, actually. You love the trades. I love porn, and I've been really into daddy porn lately.

But also, it feels insane to say what you jack off to, because the categories in porn are so disgusting and so like it's so like bizarre and like the way they categorize things it's like oh this is so weird anyway i used to jack off to the cruel intentions like shay's scene yeah when sarah michelle gellar like is lowering herself on right that's beautiful and that is culture yeah that's another formative cultural moment for me it's time it's time it's time to move on to i don't think so and we have a legend among us oh yeah a legend of the form now this is the first time because this is the first time that i have not pre-written

anything that's okay wow no i know because i heard you guys be like it's not a good I don't think so honey when you are reading that was a joke booster criticism I simply read Glenn Close off my phone because I wanted to make sure that I eviscerated her

as much as I have always wanted to yes yes yes I fully but yeah for the first time we're pushing the boundaries

of what the I don't think so honey is and if you do if people who read them I've I understand people who read it off their phones in a way. Right. But then, but I think Joel was saying that a true I Don't Think So Honey is as minimally written as possible. The driving force is just your emotion.

The hinges are off. The hinges are off. And that's what makes it fun. But we we you know but Matt and I we'll see how we do no I'm just a slave

to the form no I just want to always honor the form that you have created you always you've never you've never fallen short

you've never fallen short wow I'm gonna play this is my ringtone this is my validation that will get me out of bed as you guys are talking about this I'm like

do I want to do my topic? I do want to do my topic. Okay, so you want to go first? Yes. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so. And his time starts now. I don't think so, honey.

Sam Rockwell. And it's not that I don't like you. It's just that I don't think so, honey. Because honestly, like, when you won the Oscar last year, I was like, ugh. Because it felt like whatever. I really didn't want to see that movie. And then I was forced to. And I was like, yeah, fine.

You're good. But I don't think so, honey. I am sexually attracted to you. But I still don't think so, honey. I kind of always feel like you're kind of doing sort of the same thing. Like it's always very Sam Rockwell. And it's not that that's bad. I just don't think so, honey.

And I really don't think so, honey. You invite getting awards recognition. And the thing is, it's not that you are doing anything wrong it's the conversation around you being so bloated and it's this thing we're talking about which i don't think so honey about which is like allowing people to get praise for doing kind of like easy things and it's like you're getting kind of like recognition for doing this i'm sorry but sketch comedy performance and this is not i don't think so any sketch comedy it's sam rock it's sam rockwell i don't think so any getting praised for

doing sketch comedy performances on the world stage at the Oscars I don't think so any Sam Rockwell I loved you most in Charlie's Angels and that's one minute he was great in Charlie's Angels incredible final line he was so hot in Charlie's Angels and so good and like it was the first time I kind of got a sense of

Sam Rockwell and I was like oh he's like sexy and he's but isn't it funny that he starts out like in the movie being like dweeby and like. And then when he does the heel turn, it's fun. Oh, absolutely. And that's sexual. Yes. Both of my types are like dweeby nerd who worships me. And then like a full on villain.

And he's rocking that tank top too. Oh, hell yeah. Sam Rockwell, Secret Good Body. Oh, yes. Okay, and that, just Charlie's Angels, the first one, is such a good movie

because the way that that turn is executed, it's all one shot and it's like, it's Marvin Gaye's playing and like Drew is like in her like, is like naked with the sheet over her yes and like

you really don't see it you don't see it coming in the way that it McG what a genius McG as she's rule of culture

number 98 McG what a genius an auteur an auteur and the OC and then he moved on to do the OC

yes okay so this has to be Bowen Yang's I don't think so honey oh my god do you good I'm good I'm good yeah his time Yang's I don't think so honey you good? I'm good I'm good

his time starts now I don't think so honey my sister demanding and badgering me for screeners and it's truly one of the most stressful things that's been happening to me in the last couple months and she's like when are you getting screeners when are you getting screeners when are you getting screeners Yang I love you I don't

this is my first year getting them I haven't gotten them yet I think SAG doesn't give you as many as Writers Guild does as WGA does and all my WGA friends are getting all their screeners ahead of time and I I don't think that you should feel entitled to something that I don't even particularly

even have the time to like take care of I know she's listening I love her so much she's been supportive very recently, but also like, come on, just like fucking pirate that shit then or just go to the movies. You're in Atlanta.

You have 15 seconds. Gorgeous, giant Megaplex malls where you just go to like recline in seats and watch these films. I, you know, it's, it's, don't, don't rely on me. I'm not your gateway to showbiz. You are your own gateway to showbiz. Everyone is a culturista. No one needs anyone to be shepherded into culture

You are your own shepherd And that's one minute You know what Yang? You want the screeners? Join the union Join the union Write something Write a script

Yang you want the script You want to get in WGA? Write a script She wants to write a script actually With her friend Rohini And they're both Growing up they were like The best

Smartest people And they wrote a lot I want to hear that They wrote a lot of like I mean like Gr growing up they were like the best smartest people and they wrote a lot I want to hear that they wrote a lot of like I mean like granted they were in like the 10th grade but they wrote like

they wrote a lot of stuff together and they're two very funny creatively Keaton people and then like you know life happened and then like

but then Yang is having this really great sort of moment where she's like I think I want to like a creative resurgence try she's having a creative resurgence

and I fully support it I love that but you know what she's gonna get I think I want to like a creative resurgence. She's having a creative resurgence and I fully support it. I love that. But you know what? She's going to get her own screeners. And you know what? I don't think so many people like demanding things that require me to go put something in the mail. Exactly. I'm like, it's like you guys. No, because then I have to go to the fucking mail.

Yeah, exactly. I feel this way. I feel this way too. I feel that way. I feel this way. I feel that way. I feel this way, that way. feel this way I feel that way I feel this way I feel that way I feel this way that way and the way I feel right now is that we are gonna feel a certain kind of

way with Natalie Walker Natalie Walker's gonna do her I don't think so honey so this is Natalie Walker's I don't think so honey her time starts now I don't think so honey James Franco why

are we allowing James Franco to be around and about he has why are we giving him so many chances why is this the person that we've decided he gets to fucking proposition a 17 year old at the stage door after his broadway show he gets to like busy phillips comes out and he's like he abused me on the set of freaks and geeks and also we were at nyu when he was on the motherfucking loose. He became the Svengali figure of this girl in my year at Adler who was from Canada and like didn't know what she was getting into. And he was horrible to her and did a bullshit play at Adler where he like yelled at her

on stage. He had people do angels in America and he was on a God mic in the back and he would just repeat like the actress would go, are you a homo? And he would go, are you a homo? He's an idiot and he's not talented and i am so incensed that he is allowed to just continue being james franco around and about five seconds middling level of talent i don't think so honey oh my god at a middling level of talent thank you so much and yes we need to talk about this james for the james

franco presence at nyu between the eight years of like 2007 and 2011 yeah something like that yeah or no he was like there for two years it was like 2008 he was there for a decade because he just would sporadically come to classes and then hit on young girls every lecture across every school this was even in cas i would it would just be like me like conversations of the west or whatever bullshit social studies class I had to take for my core. But people would come in every single day and be like, wow, so-and-so saw James Franco. Here's a picture in Washington Square Park. And it's like, what is this celebrity worship going on here? Such a spectacle.

It's not worth, like, doesn't, oh, and that fucking moment where the person who took the photo of him sleeping in that lecture nodding off. He was asleep in every class I heard. But it grossed me out then. And then he was also fucking so many young women that were impressionable. And I just did not dig. And he. And yeah. dig and he um and yeah and now when he was doing a play at adler which he just like used their space and was like i'll sell tickets or whatever uh my friend was in it he recruited like six adler kids

to be in it including the girl that he was with at the time and there was one rehearsal where a woman walked in, like stumbled in, and James was like, oh, I'm sponsoring. I'm like this girl's AA sponsor. And he brought her. It was Lindsay Lohan. And she like stumbled in and was with her friends and was like giggling and just talking through the whole rehearsal. And James apparently like yelled at her and told her to leave in front of everyone and she like cried and left this is true ego to think

that you can just allow like oh my god oh my god there's so much going on in that story it's truly so much I will never forget my friend Will my best friend Will got back and was like as someone that grew up obsessed

with Lindsay Lohan I was so sad for so many reasons that story shakes me yeah yeah honestly the thing with James Franco is I've always just been like allured by him and now as of late I'm just kind of like oh god I really don't care there are just

so many reasons to not with James Franco that I'm absolutely baffled that we continue. There's a ton of other people in the world to admire. Like, and it's just like, I don't know. To give any attention to. The Busy Phillips thing is weird. The fact that he ever thought he could just push her to the ground.

I get that people are young. They do whatever they do, stupid shit. But like, he pushed someone to the ground. and it affected her enough to keep talking about it just it just these men just like can keep taking these hits and like it doesn't really even the hits keep coming yeah because it's a glorification of a time in Hollywood especially where like male actors when they were really quote-unquote in it yeah could do whatever they wanted and they would just be heralded as a genius like dustin hoffman conspired with his director in kramer versus kramer to actually throw a glass at meryl streep right and it's not okay that's not that's

truly not okay and especially it was like very pervasive at nyu even just like beyond james franco it's just like you see how yeah all of that is ingrained yeah yep yep yep wow men we should move on from men we should move on from men we are post male we are post men we are post men we are post men

wow thank you can you believe this app I can't believe this app what a true I came in I came in today you saw me today earlier I was tired oh babe I don't believe this app. What a true... I came in today. You saw me today earlier. I was just like... Oh, babe. I don't know if I...

I was just like... Tired full of poop? No, no. I was tired full of poop. I was like, this is such a weird place for me to be. I don't know where I'm at. And Natalie just recalibrated my emotional state. The recalibrator.

She's the perfect one. She is the perfection. Can I tell you what a dream come true this has been? I feel that you must come back. You must. Because this is a return guest. This is a culturista. Yes.

And look, we have great guests, but not everyone's a culturista. Not everyone's a culturista. I think Natalie is one of the few. Just a compendium of references, really. But that mixed with the way that you were able to communicate that to a larger audience, of references really but that but that mixed with the way that you were able to communicate that to

a larger audience mixed with um mixed with this very this very textured background i think is everything that a culturista is it's and she's schooling me on what a culturista should be and that is why we love that is why we love natalie walker and i would actually give you the opportunity of ending us on a song, and we will join in. Oh my God. Oh my God, oh my God. Oh my God, this is so stressful.

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