Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "You Can Take It Back (Hugh Hefner is Alive)" (w/ Peter Smith)

Episode Date: July 19, 2017

Hugh Hefner is ALIVE and so are Las Culturistas honey because we have the one the only Peter Smith on the show! Matt and Bowen dive deep with a spirited discussion of drag, summer bods, Final Fantasy XIV and Orlando Bloom. And of course, Matt spills the tee on Orlando's newest parks - Star Wars anyone? Super Mario anyone? Download today and GIVE 5 stars!LAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasCONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASThttp://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listeners, I want you to know that I love you guys. I would never provide you with information that was incorrect. However, you're about to hear us yap on about how Hugh Hefner has passed away at the age of 91. You guys, he is very much alive. At the time of recording, he is very much alive. But we know what? It opens up the show

uh this episode but we just roll with it we hope you're you can strap yourself in for the ride you know what guys um clickbait is real yeah and sometimes clickbait can be really shockingly detailed and fucking fake as fuck that's how they get you. Yeah, honestly, I'm telling you, he was dead at the age of 91, found in his home. They went into detail about how he had been succumbing to illness for some time. Listen, the man is alive. He's alive. He's alive. But you know what?

We sort of look back on his legacy, and all of that still stands. So enjoy the episode. We're so sorry this was fake news, but enjoy it. Thanks. My grandma and your grandma were sitting by the fire. My grandma told your grandma, I'm going to set your flag on fire. Talking about henna, henna, henna. Aiko, aiko, ande.

Jagamo, fino, andane. Jagamo, fino, andane. Ding dong, left's Culturista's calling. Bowen, guess who is dead. Who's dead? Hugh Hefner. Oh my, wait, what? Today? He died just now.

Are you kidding? No, I'm not kidding. Oh my God, what? Dead at 91. Wait, what? You waited until we went. Yes, I did wait. You just found this out? Yes.

Peter's jumping in. No, Peter, no, please. Absolutely not. But now that you have, let's welcome our guest into the conversation. I mean, not absolutely not. No, no. Absolutely not. All three of us will talk about this. Okay, everyone, we have an incredible guest with us today. Amazing. Amazing. They are

just a... They were floored by the information. They were floored by the information. She's such a wonderful performer. You've seen them perform at Caroline's on Broadway. They have a show coming up August 26th at the Duplex. And you saw them open the I Don't Think So Honey Live first installment with their amazing impression of Annette Bening. Look for that.

Look for that. In the future. Please, please, please do. And they're going to be at the second live show on August 11th. Yes. And they are a star in the upcoming limited series on Forever Dog podcast called Turner Master's Memory Hospital.

A star in it. A star in it. And we might have a little role in that too. We can't wait to listen to it. Yes, absolutely. And I think their name is Peter Smith. Yes. Now Peter.

Uh-huh. What say you about the death of you? I need to see a tweet notification or some kind of proof because I... Peter needs to see the body. I just don't. It's so shocking to me. Can you talk about a death of culture? I'm sorry.

Yeah, this is the world we live in though now where we don't believe news unless it's in a Washington Post notification. Confirmed dead. He yeah well the magazine is shifted now right? There's no naked. I feel like yeah it's changed. Yeah. Right? Now it's like it's like a lifestyle just a general

lifestyle magazine and there's just funny articles and such. I think it's like kind of important. Playboy absolutely. But like the death of him kind of is like the death of this sexual thing that he kind of caused. Was he a gross guy? 100%.

But also, not in a pejorative way. I'm not saying this in a negative way as to shame that. It was important. shame that it was important what he did was important well I guess it's different for every woman right of course whether

they all felt I'm sure we can't gauge whether they all felt empowered doing that no that's not up to us that's not up to us you know what not even close not even at all and I rescind I retract my previous statement I made 30 seconds ago I have no opinion.

I have none. That's your cultural right. That's my cultural right. Rule number 48. No, rule number 43 of culture, because I'm sure we haven't had 43. Yes. It's your cultural right to take back an opinion. Absolutely.

Absolutely. Peter. How about that? I agree. Peter, okay, so I'm sorry. We just launched right into this wow this is a first for the show

what's a long held opinion of yours go a long held opinion about what anything about anything anything

what have you held an opinion about all your life long that you'd like to take back this rollercoaster started and we're on it this is it

the an opinion I've had my whole life I don't know that like, dudes look great in makeup. Yes. Yeah.

Okay. But you, and I mean, the rule is, I agree too. The rule is you can retract that, but we're not doing that.

I'm not going to retract that. Just letting you know, you can take back that if you want to. If I want to, that's rule number 43. If you see me in a full beat later and you don't think

it looks very good, you can take it back. I'm sure it'll be gorgeous. But Peter, I want to, that's rule number 43. If you see me in a full beat later and you don't think it looks very good, you can take it back. I'm sure it'll be gorgeous. But Peter, I want to say, not to play devil's advocate, but I've been wearing makeup this week just for shows and such.

I saw. Oh yes, that's right. You've been in makeup three nights out of this week. Incredible. I think I look just awful. In makeup?

It's not just annual makeup. Well, you're talking about your slug makeup. Can we talk about slug? We can talk about slug. But here's the thing, Peter. You don't understand. Bowen came out for Night Soap in his actual beat that Ruby Rue, what's up Ruby, did to Bowen, and you don't understand. The crowd

gasped. I'm sure. Because of the beauty. The gorgeous beauty. I refuse to sit here and tell you that you look bad. I don't. You're lying.

I just, it's hard. It's hard. It's hard for, I'm going to say it, it's hard for Asians because our eyes are so almond.

So, Ruby put on a lot of liner and my eyes just disappeared and I just, I just looked like a beautiful skull.

I think you looked like a glamour puss. I'm sure you looked like one of the most beautiful creatures ever to grace a stage. It was shocking when he came out, and I had been seeing him all day in the makeup, and Bowen stepped out into the light as Veronique, and I was like, oh, my God, she's here. Speaking of beautiful stage visions. Yes. I just want to, and it's because Peter's here,

but it's also because I truly believe this to be empirically true. Most beautiful thing I've ever seen on stage was Peter at Carnegie Hall at the Three Busy Divers show. Yeah. Angel wings, a mesh see-through top. I keep forgetting I didn't have any clothes on. You looked amazing, Peter. That was my introduction to you as well.

Really? That was your first time seeing them? First time ever. I think it was the first time I ever saw you two. Because I could see everybody in the... Because all the lights were on. Right, because the lights were fully on. Because we couldn't afford to turn the lights off.

Wait, you couldn't afford to turn them off? What hall was that? Senkel? Vial? No, Vial. Vial Hall. Vial Hall. We had the Vial Hall.

Because, you know, famously, Carnegie Hall, not just one hall. Of course. No, there are- In fact, three. Yeah, trois halls. But it's an honor to perform in any of them. Absolutely an honor and expensive. An expensive honor.

Well, but okay, explain to me this whole light situation. It would cost you money to turn them off? There are so many. I mean, you know, you guys ever heard of unions? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. My dad's a union man. Yeah. So they're great. And they apply to Carnegie

Hall. So there's just lots of stuff that if you need this to be done, you'll have to hire someone to do it. Union guy. And then you get, you know, it's just like a union person. It adds up. Sure. Okay, that's fair. Okay, because you would have, if you turn the lights off, you would have to hire. Or girl. It adds up. Sure. Okay, that's fair. Okay, because if you turn the lights off, you would have to hire. We would need a tech person.

Exactly. That makes sense. And that's like another thousand dollars. Another thou. Peter, how are you? How am I? Yeah. This weather that is kind of...

I mean, not to talk about the weather. No, no, no. It's taken me a while. As we're now in the heat of summer, and then today had this kind of chill. Yes. Really appreciated it. Over the last-

Just to kind of- Yeah. It's been so much and this has been nice. Over the last several days, I've been saying to myself, am I really sick or do I just live in Manhattan? Like, I feel I'm constantly covered in a film. Oh, yeah. You're an uptown girl.

I forgot about that. Uptown girl. You are uptown. Spanish Harlem. Living the life in Spanish film. Oh, yeah, you're an uptown girl. I forgot about that. Uptown girl. You are uptown. Spanish Harlem, living the life in Spanish Harlem, living life just like a movie star. There is a rose in Spanish Harlem. Oh, that's such a good one. Yes.

I love that song. Wait, which song was this? Spanish Harlem. Maria, Maria. There is a... No, I'm singing There is a Rose in Spanish Harlem. Oh. Do you know this?

Does anyone know that the Elton John... We were singing two different Spanish Harlem songs. Here's a third. It's an Elton John. We were singing two different Spanish Harlem songs. Here's a third. It's an Elton John deep cut. Oh. And now I know Spanish Harlem are not just pretty words to say.

Elton? Elton. Elton. No, I felt like Elton was here. I... When's Elton gonna die? When's he... Oh, man.

Sorry, sorry, sorry. I went there. Okay, you went there, and we loved it. No, we want to talk about the legends dying. The legends dying. You know who's gonna be a sad one? Stevie Dubs. Stevie?

Stevie Woods. Yeah, now I think. Stevie Dubs. Oh, I had to think. Okay, Dubs. My first Stevie W wonder. Not that Stevie Dubs isn't, like, maybe the one Stevie to rule all Stevies, but whenever I hear Stevie, I think of Nix.

Oh, and whenever any of the Macs and the Fleets die, once that happens, I'll be a wreck. No, Joni. When Joni passes, oh my God. Everyone always talks about that. Everyone's always like, God, when Joni Mitchell goes, I'm like, stop saying that. When Joni Mitchell goes, I'm like stop saying that. When Joni Mitchell dies, there will just be

a breeze through the plains and every wildflower will quiver. Quiver. And they'll make a sound like a flute. Yeah. And they'll know. And the caves will echo. When Joni dies, the plants will know first.

And every child in Canada will be orphaned. And Mark Wahlberg will flee the town that he lives in with his family. These plants are talking. These plants are talking. Peter, we are going to ask you what we ask all of our guests. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that is, what was the culture that made you a young Peter think, culture is for me? Yeah, so it's the culture that made you say to yourself, you know what?

Now I'm ready to think about this. Yes. In terms of your growth. The film Tu Wong Fu, Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar. Reads. Amazing answer. I would watch that straight up on a loop. Mm-hmm.

And, yeah. Because that was like, oh, yeah, that's what I'm, that's, I was like, oh, that's what I'm supposed to. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I did. Wow, wow, wow, wow. In terms of what? In terms of, like like comedy performance or like gender

like It was just like oh these like guys that are born with a male bod like are fucking around with shit you know

and like funny performances like good performances Yeah In a real way Like yeah like in a

just like being honest and then like the small town I love a fish out of water. Yes. Fish out of water. And those were three fishes. Out of water.

Of water. Okay. And you said, you mentioned small towns. And does this sort of track back to your origins at all or no? I mean, I was in like the Burbs, small suburbs of Chicago. So yeah, it was kind of this like, oh, this like community, whatever. But then I did Dragon Fifth Grade.

Yes. Wow. Wait, okay. In what capacity? Oh, you have to, I have it on YouTube. What? My dad filmed it. Really? Yeah. Okay. Incredible that he filmed it. Very incredible. Yes. Paint it for us with words. The that he filmed this. Very incredible. Yes. Paint it for us with words.

The blue velvet curtain opens. Oh, shit. I am standing with like a blonde, kind of like bump it that flows down. A little bit of a, there's a Gabor-ness to my look. Right, right, right. Like, because I'm kind of like Rubenesque, fat fifth grader. And like, this hair is big and peroxide blonde. Right, right, right. Ja, ja. Because I'm kind of like Rubenesque, fat fifth grader. This hair is big and peroxide blonde.

And then I have this cape on and I'm all black covered up. And then the beginning of I Will Survive starts. And I didn't really get the lip sync thing. I was like, no, I'm going to sing. Over the track. I'm supposed to sing. This isn't a lip sync. This is like I will.

So I sang over the track. And they were like, you want your mic on? And I was like, of course I want my to sing. Like this isn't a lip sync. This is like I will. So I sang over the track and they're like, you want your mic on? And I was like, of course I want my mic on. So I kind of bleed it along with the track. Did this like reveal with this cape to like this sparkly look.

Had someone backstage hand me a boa. It was like a fully produced. Oh my God. Yeah. It's the greatest before once I've ever had. How did this opportunity arise?

The fifth grade talent show. Oh, it was a talent show and you did drag in the talent show. That's incredible. I closed it out. You closed it out? Of course you did. Yeah, of course.

What can follow that? Fucking a baton twirler? It was fucking a baton twirler. Fucking the popular girls doing a dance to what? No. Fucking the girls? Or was it Protected by Britney? Janet Jackson.

All for you, right? It was always all for you. It's such a good song. All those stupid bitches were doing dance routines to all for you. It's a great song. They all were. And guess what? Rule number 101 of culture.

Janet Jackson, all for you. It wasn't for you. No. I did not finish that rule because I don't know. Are these rules also opinion? Can you take them back later?

I was exactly going to say, I rescind this rule. Thank you, Peter. You can take back any opinion. You can take back any opinion and that includes rules and we've just built a new rule into the rules of culture. It's incredible how cyclical it all is.

Yeah. Sure. Now, Peter, you took it upon yourself. Yeah. And it wasn't even like a resourcefulness thing. As a fifth grader, you were just like, like oh i'm going to dress this way yeah and and it was just there was no friction about it you just did it yeah yeah well i would wear like skirts at home or whatever like just like with my sister we'd like fuck around and then like of

course until like middle school you're not like well at least we weren't really yeah it wasn't like boys girls no no no right So we had this sleep away thing where it was like the boys and the girls would sleep separate and every time that would happen I would be with the losers. Because it was like no, we didn't have any dude friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I, in fifth grade was like

oh no, this is hilarious, I'm going to do this. Wow. Because I didn't think like, oh, I need to express this because it doesn't really exist yet. But like this is hilarious. I'm going to posit that around fifth grade, like you're nine, ten, however many years old. But I just distinctly remember fifth grade being like the beginning of what I thought I started to like absorb was like being internalized and developing within me. It's when you awaken sexually, right? I mean, the majority of people.

You get like a conscious. Not that it has to do exactly with sexuality, but you start to become conscious or more conscious of how the world sees you and how you're responding to what you're supposed to be in the world. You get social, so then you get fucked up. There you go. Exactly. Oh my God, so then you get fucked up. There you go. Exactly. Oh my God, that's it. I remember that was when it all kind of went to hell for me and being self-conscious. Because I wasn't there.

I wasn't the kind of person that was like, oh, this is funny. This is all a construct. I mean, that didn't become aware to me until I guess two or three years ago, honestly, where I actually knew what the sentence gender as a construct like was. I mean but it just seems like you were very precocious though Peter.

I guess. Own it. No you know own it. Sure. What does precocious really mean? To me sometimes I think it's like a bad thing. That you're ahead of your own time. God, well, this sucks. It's like a precocious child is like a child who behaves in sort of...

In advanced manner. In advanced manner. Okay, I'll take... Yes, sure. You're an old soul. I was, yeah, I told... When I was a kid, people would say that. Yeah.

And I'd be like, why? You know, or like, like shut up or something like that shut up you it is like an irritating thing to say to someone when you're a kid and then it's like you're a really old soul

like what does that mean I'm not fitting in and you're calling it out because I'm aware of that I'm something different than everyone okay great yeah thank you

thank you for underlining that to Wong Fu um god drag movies in general drag movies in general right yeah Mrs. Doubtfire except some of those are like fucked up is RuPaul important to you To Wong Fu, God, I keep... Drag movies in general. Drag movies in general, right? Mrs. Doubtfire.

Except some of those are fucked up. Is RuPaul important to you? RuPaul, the opening of To Wong Fu, she comes down in a Confederate flag dress. Wow. Because she's hosting this drag competition. Yep, yep, yep. And then she doesn't come back.

There's this cameo from someone who's like actually an amazing drag queen yes this movie that then these three straight dudes take on to do but

these dilettantes RuPaul right now yeah I mean yeah I don't watch Drag Race is there a reason for that no

yeah just not interested yeah and then I sometimes I'm I like seeing it live more. Yes, totally. Even comedy specials, I'm like, this is funny,

but it's so much better to be live. It's interesting that there's a whole, now millions of people that watch Drew Paul's Drag Race, and the vast majority of them have never been to see drag live. Exactly, which is kind of too bad. Yeah, and wouldn't understand what drag even is live. It's so funny to me, like, when people kind of take issue with drag queens

for their behavior on the show, it's like, well, you've never been to a real drag show then, and you've never seen drag, because if you think, like, this is subversive, what they're allowed to get away with on VH1. Like, you don't even understand. Rose petals sprinkling from your head. Yeah, right.

I saw that. Well, you saw that. Well, you saw that. Oh, you saw us do that live, and that was a tribute. And I've seen Money. Yeah, it's like that's kind of, that was an iconic moment in whatever the drag race. Yes. It's become quite the meme.

It's become a very prolific meme. I'd say out of the nine seasons, I'd say it's in the probably top 10 iconicized images. Sure, totally. Of the show and like intentionally like there was a lot of thought put into that yeah I think she knew what she was doing

totally totally totally yeah I mean other drag movies some like it hot some like it hot my grandma told me to watch that because I would like burn out the too long food tapes then she was like why don't you watch this one? And then that one is funny.

Because like Jack Lemmon is funny. In what way is that movie funny? Is it like, it can't get. No, the joke is like, they're boys actually. Right, right, right. Which it just like, I don't know. I was just like soothed by seeing like dudes with dresses on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Or you have to like exist in this world and I get that, whatever. And they were doing it. But then usually the punchline was the thing where it was like, oh no, this is, I guess, bad. Like Mrs. Doubtfire, the ending, it's like, you don't do that because then everyone's mad at you and it's very wrong.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, that's fucked. Yeah, like you've- Deceitful, deceitful man. All of it's there, it's kind of fucked. But the rest of it is great. Mm-hmm. There you go.

Sally Fields. Sally. The whole time? The whole time? The whole time? Yeah. You know, that line reading. I haven't seen it in a minute.

Oh, I've seen it. Oh, I thought you haven't seen it. No, no, no, no. Oh, my God. Joel was talking to me about that show Emerald City. Oh, it's the new Wizard of Oz. It's like sort of a Game of Thrones layer on top of a Wizard of Oz prequel.

On NBC. Where were our readings from? Why didn't we go in for that? Yeah. And apparently, Ozma, so in the Frank L. Baum books, Ozma, I think. Who's that?

Who's Ozma? Ozma is like some princess., Ozma is like the, it's like some princess. I'm not, I don't, I don't quite understand the whole mythology. I don't know her. I don't know her. So thank you,

Matt. Um, but Ozma is apparently born a princess and, um, longs, longs to be, uh, uh,

a boy. Oh, and so there's that journey, but then in, in, so, so, so that's, so that's very interesting. But in the show for some reason the the creative people behind this show took it took it upon themselves to complicate that by having asma like talk to the wicked witch of the west who is sort of a

sympathetic character and the witch wants to help Asma transition, but then the other witches are like, no, Asma, no, Oz has to have a princess. So then, for some reason, this is just an added thing Joel was telling me, Asma's, like,

resigned to ghosts, going back to yes, being female. i was and then we were just all like why would they do that i don't know it's like let's you know what this is a this is a wizard of oz prequel in a high fantasy world let's let's let's attack gender yeah let's go in there let's talk about it right and be get off the mark it's just anyway yeah i think people are like really they're trying to get on on the ground floor a little bit with that. It's about the next thing.

It's like, well, they ate ass on ABC. So what do we got to do? Did they actually? Yes. Where? On How to Get Away with Murder. Those boys ate each other's buttholes. They ate it on television.

Right up. They ate it right up. Wait, what's that guy's name? Jack Fallahy. And the other one? Connor Ricamora's that guy's name? Jack Fowley. And the other one? Connor Ricamora is the guy's name. He's actually gay. Yeah.

He's got a cute face. Oh, they're both super cute. In fact, we went to college. We didn't know him, but we went to college with Jack Fowley. I couldn't point him out. Yeah, I couldn't point him out. He's handsome and... Eight ass on television.

Eight ass on TV. And, you know, for ABC, I guess that was a lot. But now it's funny because they're all... It's funny that you say that because they're all like, all right, how do we do the next outrageous thing that may or may not appropriate a whole group of people? It's so outrageous. Yeah.

I mean... Also, the way that the group of people. It's so outrageous. Yeah. It's, I mean. Also, the way that the guy got his butt ate was so funny. I'd describe it. Like, they were having dialogue and, like, making out, and then the guy just, like, flips him over very, like, kind of, like, cinematically, and the guy just throws his head back and goes, oh! Oh, yeah. Like that.

That's how it happened. Cartoon. Yeah. Explosion. Oh, yeah. That's how it happened. Like that cartoon explosion. And at home, all the middle-aged women watching it were like, ooh, I felt it on my butt because he was such a good actor. And then all of us are just kind of watching the highlight reel and it's like, I heard the ADAS on television. Did you see this, the ADAS on television?

Here's the link. Watch this. Yeah. All I need they ate ass on television. Did you see this? They ate ass on television. Here's the link. Watch this. Yeah. All I need is the link. Yeah. We never consume it just from the primary stories? No, it's just like, Rick and Morty eating ass on television. Watch this.

Bunch of pervs sending media around. Rick and Morty gets butt-eat by Fallahee. 34-second clip. Yeah. I mean. Context? No thanks. I think that's my media diet now is just compilation videos.

I was literally talking about a compilation video. Wait, what was I talking about when I came in? Something. Oh, when you came into this room? Into this room? To this space. It was a compilation about something. Oh, it was about why Hillary Swank.

Oh, right. Why no one in Hollywood, why everyone in Hollywood hates Hillary Swank. That's negative content. Why did you watch that? It's so negative because – He was interested. I fell for the clickbait.

I fell for it. And – Yeah. There are such negative compilations out there. It's awful. It's awful. And I love Hilary Swank so much. And I was like, why –

Do you? Yes. I'm telling you – You're wondering why everyone else doesn't. I'm wondering why – Yes, that. And I truly was changed by her SNL episode because it had some of my,

it had a great. She played a good Heidi Klum. She did. She played a great Heidi Klum. She was. What year was this? 2003 or something. She.

Long ago. I need to watch it. Her musical guest was 50 Cent and she, the first sketch was this morning talk show called The L.A. Face, I think, and it was about the Botox lifestyle and all women had Bot called The L.A. Face, I think.

And it was about the Botox lifestyle and all women had Botox. Yes, L.A. Face. Or something. And Hilary Swank played this Botox woman. I'm chuckling. Botox woman. This Botox woman, I'm sorry. And her story was, her character was, that she uh was operating um no no no so she was like

i work in the in the entertainment industry so i had to get botox i felt i had to get botox and then my rudolph plays the host and she's like here's a photo of you here's a before photo of you and it's just just a really nice looking headshot of hillary slake with like a universal studios roller coaster behind her. She was like, yes, I work in the entertainment industry. I operated the rollercoaster. She was just very committed and good, and I was like, I love Hillary Swank now.

I always have. It's true. Whenever they come on and they host a damn good episode of SNL and they're committed and they can pull it off, I do have more respect for them. And when they're trashed I'm done Christina Aguilera

had a good episode yes or she kind of just killed it with that Samantha she did a really good Samantha and that was

transphobic and that was transphobic too I'm a dude like what Samantha I did live I do live in the

meatpacking district I was like come on she did a good voice and also oh she's also the musical guest she did one of those like double turns oh yeah like I can do it all but she can do it all have

you seen burlesque I love culture that then catapulted me into any new height new height my favorite scene in burlesque is Cher's like I gotta go home and they're like Cher You gotta do a song.

The thing is we set the lights and we rehearsed it's all ready for you it's all set up she's like alright just one puts her shit down

fucking slays this like huge ballad You haven't seen the last of me You haven't seen the last of me Yeah

I've never seen it What? Oh my god You need to And I hear Kristen Bella plays a great She does There's like a hot guy She's a bitch goddess Me! Yeah. I've never seen that. What? Oh my God. You need to. And I hear Kristen Bell plays a great monster. She does. There's like a hot guy who's always kind of naked, walking around being like, wait, why?

What's his name? What's his name? He has eyeliner on the whole time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's his name? He's hot. Cam Gigandit. He's just one of those, like, you'll see him and you'll be like,

oh yeah, someone was trying to make us like you for a while. Yeah. But it didn't work. He was on the OC as Marissa's edgy boyfriend who maybe was abusive. Not Oliver Trask. No, no, no. Later on in the season, right before she died in a tragic car accident. Oh, this is season three.

Did you watch the OC? I did. Yeah. Excellent. He was on that. It's all on Hulu. Did you know? I did. Yeah. Excellent. He was on that. It's all on Hulu. Did you know? I did. I did know because I was watching The Bachelorette the other day and I watched

the last episode and then they just started an OC episode and I was like, oh my God. Because they're like, whoever's watching The Bachelorette wants to watch the OC. That's what they really want. Probably. Or they just need to know it's on here because they're going to be like, oh, I didn't know that. Yes. Yep, that's it. Yeah. I mean, I feel like everyone has this opinion I'm about to share.

But no, maybe not. I think Cher is number one. Number one diva for me. No, I've sat on the show Celine before, but Cher just has the personality, though. I honestly can't rate them. They all have their own special. Like, Celine, you can't compare Celine to Cher. No, you can't.

It's very hard. But Cher has just been, since day one, since the days of Sunny and Cher, just this funny, sardonic person. And she's evolved into this caricature, but still so charming in interviews. And, like, God, she was even doing an interview with RuPaul in the 90s on VH1. And she was just so funny. So, she's just so funny.

She's so funny. She makes fun of herself. She like, can handle, she had like a variety show and then it was like, she went from that to like a pop career

but then she was like an actress. Serious actress. That's the thing. And then she did it, it's like, she just is like, yeah,

I'll do that. Yes. Yeah, I'll do that. I can do that. I'll do that. I'll try that. I can do that. She's really good at everything. And the thing is like, she just is like, yeah, I'll do that. Yes. Yeah, I'll do that. I can do that. I'll do that. I'll try that. She's really good at everything.

And the thing is, like, you could even debate how good she is at everything. Like, I don't think she's a 10 in any area. But at least she's a solid 8. But she's clearly a 15. Yeah. As something altogether. As just, like, you just can't take your eyes off her. No.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. This is the irony of ironies is that my father's favorite Western culture song is Believe by Cher. And I don't have it in me. He's gay. I can't tell him that Cher is a gay icon and that this is a very queer song. Because he would just immediately hate it and it would ruin the song for him. And you have this kind of special thing where you could put it on and he'd be like, oh great.

And you'd be like, oh yeah, great. We would both enjoy it so much. You guys want to know what he calls it? Would he dance to it? He will sing along to it and he doesn't know the actual title of the song because he only refers to it as Bowen play that a la la song

which is his phoneticization of after love after love he calls it a la la so it's the a la la song to him it's like oh it's so good that whole album oh it is such

a gay song it's it's such a i love it i think bob the drag queen had a bit we did were you with me when we saw him live like before that he was before he was in drag race and he was saying how like he was like getting driven around by his mom and it was when believe was becoming popular and you just hear the beginning of like they're like and then he just like felt something change in him when it played and his mom knew like oh shit yeah i have a gay kid it is a very sort of seminal album yeah i will say oh yeah and then well there really wasn't that much else on that album, though. Taxi Taxi was a song. Song for the... Taxi. This is a song for the lonely.

Was that on that album? Yeah, Song for the Lonely is on that album. Oh, great. Well, then I love. I mean, I just want to say Cher... She had like wintry blonde hair on the album cover, right? No, it was black. Oh, okay.

But I just want to say the children have forgotten Cher. Because now it's like, oh, she tweeted something so funny. That is a shame. Yeah, it's like she has such a massive canon of stuff to watch. Or it's like, you put her into YouTube,

it's like, this is from 1960. It's like, fuck. It's like she walks out in a 60 years of shit to watch. 60 years of shit to watch and not to like just objectify or anything,

but her body Oh my, yes. Beyond. On Sony and Cher was just like, just so lean. So, yes. Beyond. On Sony and Cher was just like, just so lean. So snatched. Just like cigarettes

and cocaine body. But it was so beautiful and the hair, the way the hair fell. I mean, just a dream. That's ruse number one. Cher. Cher.

But she's so smart and funny and charming. Yes. I can't get over her. You don't know where to start with Cher. I've never seen Moonstruck. I've never seen it either. Whoops.

Have you? She's just like a joy to watch, do, talk. Yeah. You're like, yeah, I believe anything you say. And you're dealing with this right now. Even burlesque, I'm like, this is a great performance, Cher. Yeah, I'm sure. You are dropped in.

I'll never forget. She dropped in. I love to do the monologue that share gives to Christina Aguilera when Christina Aguilera sitting there like I don't know how to do my makeup and shares like come here yeah my mother would say you're doing your makeup just like painting a canvas except you're painting a face Christina Christina gets it. And then she becomes a superstar. A full star.

Raise the curtain. Raise the curtain when she goes, Yeah, exactly. And Cher's like, hold on. And everyone's like, wait. The girl can growl. Qua? Qua? The mark of a great singer and vocalist is a growler.

Imagine like the power going out and then someone doing that. And then it's like, no, let's keep this going. And then the band's like, I guess we'll play. Oh, God. How can we keep up with her? Dust off these old instruments. I remember like me being a little gay 12-year-old. There was growls in everything I sang.

Pretending to be Kelly Clarkson singing, that was how I learned what vocalization was. Is that a Kelly Clarkson song? For a moment like this, you know she did it. Yeah, she started at the growl. You always start at the growl if you're a pop star. When she came to prominence on that show was when she sang R-E-S-P-E-C-T.

She did, no, no. She was like giving you growls and riffs and bells. I'm going to say, and this is an opinion I will not take back. Growls are gimmicks.

Growls are gimmicks. They are gimmicks, but they work. Sometimes it's like, hell yeah, but sometimes it's like, oh, you don't need that. Fine.

No, yeah, I don't need that fine no yeah I think I don't think you ever need it but I do like to like to hear it because it makes me laugh I think singing should be funny singing should be funny that's true

it should definitely give you joy it should absolutely do that oh my god to spark joy to spark joy you cannot throw it out were you were you hesitating

to make that a cultural rule for house or gimmicks I didn'titating to make that a cultural rule? I didn't want to make it a cultural rule because I'm sure I'll, I want the people to come for me on Soch because I want to have a discussion about this. But so I don't, I don't want to canonize it. With a community.

You just kind of want to spark. I do want to spark. You know what? This is, people are really tweeting at us their opinions and they get really impatient with us when we don't have new episodes, which we love. Because, please, we want you to clamor for this.

Wait, what did I? Someone read us for, we did something wrong. Oh, because we butchered the synopsis for Three's Company. Yeah, apparently I actually didn't know what Three's Company, the television show, was about. What did you say it was about? I said it was he was a straight guy who pretended to be gay to live with those two women.

No. Which I disbelieved. What is it? What is it? Weren't they just like living together? I don't think that's enough for a show. I'm sorry. I don't think that's enough for a show.

Well, it was like there was a lot of stuff that's not enough for a show. It was different back then. What? Charlie's Angels, I mean. Yeah, three women who are fierce with guns. Yeah, I mean, that's a TV show. Fine, fine. And you never see Charlie.

I love it. Yes. Make it a movie. That's, you know what's a TV show. Fine, fine. And you never see Charlie. I love it. Yes. Make it a movie. That's, you know what? You're right. That's feminine. They should. They should make it a movie.

And they should make another one after that. Yes. Full throttle. Full throttle. I loved Charlie's Angels movie. Me too. Yes, me too. I kind of just got lost thinking about it.

Yeah, right? Yeah. I had the DVD. And I just loved, I kind of loved that the sequel was just a beat for beat the same movie as the first one. I love the DVD. And I just loved, I kind of loved that the sequel was just beat for beat the same movie as the first one. I love them both. Like Cameron Diaz has like a dance scene with Luke Wilson. Remember when Cameron, I'm sorry to derail the train, but Cameron Diaz is Miss Hannigan. Oh, I never saw that.

I never saw that because you know what? I thought it would make me violently ill. Really weird. I mean, it's kind of, it's amazing. You think Carol Burnett, you think Cameron Diaz. Of all people. I mean. You think like, it's just,

like Jane Lynch in the Broadway version and then Cameron Diaz in the film adaptation. Oh my God. Like nothing about it makes sense. Nothing about it makes sense but it's kind of hilarious though. Yeah.

Because what else, I mean, who else was miscast in that movie? Who played, oh no, no, Jamie Foxx was Daddy Warbucks. Jamie Foxx was Daddy Warbucks.

Rose Byrne was, was a face. Yes, yes, yes. Kevon Janay Wallace was Annie. Annie. I heard, how was she? Was she good? Well, she can't sing. She can't sing. The movie was not good. Right, yes. Kevon Janay Wallace was Annie. I heard, how was she? Was she good?

Well, she can't sing. She can't sing. The movie was not good. Right, right. You could argue that everyone was miscast. But you wanted to root for it, though, sort of from the side. I mean, Jamie Foxx is talented. Yes.

Definitely. Rose Byrne is the most talented and beautiful, smooth creature in the world. Incredibly smooth. And then Kevon Janay Wallace is talented, but it's just kind of like, Cameron Diaz, I guess, yes, is talented. You had the stars, you didn't align them. Here's the thing. Cameron Diaz has star quality. I don't know if she's talented in terms of versatile acting, giving you everything.

I think that she, when she's directed well can be phenomenal. Like I think that My Best Friend's Wedding My Best Friend's Wedding is like I think she's amazing in it. That was her first fucking role.

Well after the mask. After the mask. And she was good in the mask. She did what she needed to do in the mask. And then Best Friend's Wedding it's like that whole movie relies on

you buying that character. And also Julia Roberts you like too, despite that character being awful as well. I think My Best Friend's Wedding is one of the underrated great romantic comedies. It weirdly set a template that was never followed again. Does that make sense?

Yes, it was like, oh, this is the way, but then no one ever did that. It was a romantic comedy that was ultimately sort of a tragedy in the end. There wasn't another guy for her to go to. She was kind of like... Right. It was a tragedy.

Spinster. She was a spinster. Say it to Bowen. Yeah, she dies at the end. She dies at the end. She gets crushed by the cake. That's what a spinster is. And then, no, but then, yeah, no one ever really followed that.

Is this the... Was that... Wait. Did the... The moment I wake up before... Was that in that? Yeah, that really followed that. Is this the, was that, wait, did the, the moment I wake up before, was that in that? Yes, that was in that. That is a iconic moment in this. Many iconic moments in that. Also, I always say, one of my favorite scenes

in any romantic comedy, well, the opening's great, but it's when Cameron Diaz, like, Dermot Moroney has, like, run away. Yeah. And Cameron Diaz has trusted Julia Roberts Moroni has like run away yeah and Cameron Diaz has trusted Julia Roberts to go ask him what's wrong yeah and she Julia's of course you know has her hijinks yeah she goes back and she's gonna tell Cameron that he's not doesn't want to be with her anymore so the way that she does is

she does this creme brulee analogy yeah she says your creme brulee you're perfect you're irritatingly perfect. Suddenly, he realizes he doesn't want creme brulee. He wants something else. Cameron goes, what does he want? Jell-O. And she's like, I could be Jell-O. And Julia's like, you're never going to be Jell-O.

It's an insane scene. It's so good, but they're so good. They're so good. I mean, it's such a weird scene, but they're so good. They're both so good. And Cameron Diaz will never be Jello. Yeah. She will never be Jello. She's like, I have to be Jello! And also, one of the great iconic moments in that movie, which I think

made her a star, was the karaoke scene. Yes! I don't really remember, but I remember I can see the kind of shot of her jumping around. She's petrified. And Julia Roberts thinks the way that she's going to break her down is by making her sing karaoke. In front of all these people.

And she's petrified. And she really starts to cry and break down when she realizes she has to. And she's like she starts off super shaky. She's nervous. She's about to like fully break down. But then like eventually she wins everybody in the room over it. She's just so endearing. It's a triumphant ending,

and then Julia Roberts' character is like, fuck. And it's because Cameron Diaz is endearing in a real way. Wow, I mean, you know what? Talking about this now, I'm just like, yeah. Cameron and in Charlie's Angels 2, full star, she does not get the credit she deserves. No, she jumps off that screen. I mean, there was a reason why she was number one for a minute. Yeah, she was not get the credit she deserves. No, she jumps off that screen. I mean, there was a reason why she was, like, number one for a minute.

Yeah, she was. Her salary was up there. She was getting paid, like, 20 mil. Out of all three Charlies. She was making the most money. I saw the sweetest thing in theaters with, like, a babysitter. And I was too young. It was, like, a rated R movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was like, let's see this movie. And then there was this scene where like her mouth, or like someone's mouth gets caught on a dick or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the tongue ring gets caught on his dick. There's something where it's like the shot is her mouth over a dick for like 10 minutes of trying to get like a dick out of this person's mouth. And then my babysitter was like, don't tell your parents

that it took you to see this movie. And I was like, I won't't but then we were like chuckling about it but it was this like secret oh cool yeah I'm not telling my parents saw this dirty movie I'm nine yeah whatever the hell you gotta though because oh my god yeah this this happened with me with um something about Mary and yes it was come in the hair come in the hair and it was just all these it was like three Chinese families at a dinner party and we were all like let's watch a movie and i was like yeah like what seven and then they they played it and i just did not understand what was going on with the come in the hair thing and they were like yeah it's gel and yeah um oh but cameron has

also you mentioned the sweetest thing which brings me to another rule of culture. Yes. It's rule number 34 of culture. Christina Applegate always steals the movie. Always. Always. I can, yeah, okay. She's the great icon of our time.

She's the great. Wait a minute. Am I thinking of Christina Applegate when I think of Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead? Yes.

Yes. Okay. Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead. That is the ultimate, if I could be in any remake of anything, it would be that. That should be you.

Can you imagine just babysitting and I'm like, no, now I'm in corporate fashion and I'm like, oh, God, how do I juggle this? Are you kidding? Give me that script. Only you could do it.

Yeah, Peter. Only you could do it. It's so good. And then she has a fashion show at her house. Yes. She's playing a 40-year-old woman with kids when she's 16. Yeah. It's so good. And then she has like a fashion show at her house. Yes. She's like playing a 40 year old one with kids. Yeah.

She's like 16. Yeah. It's amazing. But you buy it. You buy it. You totally buy it because she's like 25 but playing an 18 year old

so she looks old. It's just perfect. Yeah. That was like I guess while she was doing Married with Children. Oh yeah. So when they were like

you're a star but then she fucking was such a star. then she she is she's funny she is talk about staying power oh yeah like she's a star of the stage she's on Broadway yes sweet charity she was nominated for a Tony which she did oh yeah she like what like 10 years ago right it was a while back yeah yeah she was nominated for a Tony for sweet charity famously broke her

foot during a performance and finished the whole week of shows. Right, I remember. Yeah. I think Christina Applegate is going for that EGOT. What does she have? I don't know. I don't think she has any of them. She doesn't have anything, but think about what she's done. She's done Broadway, she's obviously done movies, TV, and maybe she can sing.

She is one where I would love to see that happen. Yes. I would love to see Christina Applegate one day blow everyone away and win an Oscar in a sort of, you don't see it coming, but it happens way, I guess, for Jennifer Hudson. It happened like that. Like a Mickey Rourke way where it's like, oh, this return to the top. And you know who else? Matthew McConaughey.

You know who I think it will happen for? Matthew McConaughey is a perfect example. Yeah, but who? Judy Greer. Oh, interesting. But to me, Judy Greer is like, everyone loves her. You can't deny. Everyone's a fan of her.

Yeah. But she has to start that inflection now. She has to start turning that ship around. Not that it's going anywhere bad, but it's like she should start that campaign. She was in The Descendants. Oh, right. She had like a big dramatic part in She was in The Descendants. Oh, right. She had a big dramatic part in that movie, The Descendants with George Clooney, which I think was a shit movie. Which was like eight years ago. Yeah.

I guess you're right. It was a long time ago. Yeah, that movie was like every sad dad. Yeah, I hate that. I've realized that Alexander Payne movies are insufferable. Oh, they're the worst. It's like George Clooney is playing a Hawaiian Harid. Who did Oh, they're the worst. It's like George Clooney is playing a Hawaiian. Horrid.

Who did, what's the, Aloha? Oh, God, Cameron Crowe. Cameron Crowe. Oh, yeah, okay. Cameron Crowe, who, man, I used to love. Why did you used to love him? Because Jerry Maguire was just like really important. Okay, Jerry Maguire is super permissible. Almost Famous, not permissible for me.

Okay, explain. Iissible. Almost Famous, not permissible for me. Okay, explain. I secretly love Almost Famous. I don't like that movie. It doesn't hold up because of the gay panic. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's gay panic in it? Yeah. I think you've seen a part of it, I think.

The plane scene. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. They hack joke it up. They all think they're going down in the plane like all of Stillwater is like on this plane and the plane's crashing and they're all like telling each other their secrets and the one guy's like I'm gay and then the plane writes itself and they're like

I know and it's just like comedic climax of the movie and it's like really okay you're right you know what I rescind my opinion you can do that and you can do that you can do that here here it's a rule um oh and also um I Right, you know what? I rescind my opinion. You can do that. And you can do that. You can do that. Here. Here. It's a rule. Oh, and also,

I hate love, love, hate, whatever, Elizabethtown. Really? No. Especially with fucking Paula Deen. Paula Deen. Acting.

Paula Deen is acting in that movie? Yes. She plays his aunt. Which I remember thinking, like, wow. Because I loved food celebrity. What? I loved celebrity shows. Yes, me too, me too. Food celebrity wow. Because I loved food celebrities. I loved celebrity chefs. I love calling them food celebrities.

I was trying to think of... Like Katy Perry, a food celebrity. I was thinking of a joke walking up. It was like, oh, I'm a celebrity chef. And then it was like, no, I'm a celebrity's chef. And I was like, that's not funny. Well, think of it and then throw it away. I think there's something there.

But Paula Deen was a celebrity chef yeah and then she was a mom in a film and I remember thinking like wow you've made the jump from like your set

your home in Savannah Georgia to now this like film with Kristen Kristen Dunst like playing her mom yeah

it's I mean I can't do you know this? Paula Deen used to be agoraphobic. Like, she would not leave the house. Like, she was a shut-in. She was terrified of going out in public. That explains a lot of her comments.

Absolutely. Like, I'm saying she's still, like, a disgusting, poisonous demon. Succubus. But I just find her fascinating. And it's just so funny that she's in Elizabethtown. And she's like, oh, you like that? Like and it's just so funny that she's in Elizabethtown and she's like, she's like, oh, you like that?

Like she's just stupid. Oh, wait, no, no, no. I can't, I watched Elizabethtown recently. It was on the apartment and I thought, and I thought, oh, there's obviously

like 10 minutes left. The movie went on for an hour and a half. I was like, it felt like the end the whole time. It took a two and a half hour movie. And then at the end

when Susan Sarandon does that dance. Wait, Susan Sarandon's in it? Wait, no, what are you talking about? Elizabeth Town. Susan Sarandon plays Orlando Bloom's mother. Really?

Yes. And she does a dance at the end on the stage. What? Positive. And then everything starts to come down. In like a Ricky and the Flash

kind of thing? Did you see it? I did not I hear it's horrible it's like she's she's doing it wait listeners of Las Colas Teresa's

confirm this Susan Strandon like gets up on stage and does a dance it's like her ex-husband who's Orlando Bloom's father's like funeral or something

and then something happens where the the like hanging pieces from the ceiling start to fall oh no too much too much

but it's bizarre that's not the ending and the whole time Kirsten Dunst taking pictures that don't exist that was her kind of thing it was like

she's a photographer she's a photographer oh but that movie was the origin of the term MPDG yeah Manic Pixie Dream Girl like I forgot which critic coined that phrase

but it was I thought it was for Garden State no that she's lumped in with that she's lumped in with that because Eliz phrase. I thought it was for Garden State. No. She's lumped in with that. She's lumped in with that because Elizabethtown is so derivative of Garden State. Are they both in New Jersey? No, Elizabethtown is in Kentucky. Oh, it's a southern thing.

Hence the Dean. What was it? How you look dead like your father. I don't know. How you look dead like your daddy. I don't need it. It's so fun. Oh, yeah. Look just like your daddy. There you go. Thank you. And daddy.

Thank you. And look like your daddy. That's my Paula Deen impression. And Orlando Bloom. Here's the thing about Orlando Bloom. He was naked recently. He was naked recently. He was naked recently with his dick out very near to Katy Perry's back.

Yeah. And you have a story about him. Oh, I've told it on the pod before. Okay, tell me later. He was screaming crazy into McDonald's. Yeah, he was in front of me at McDonald's at 3 in the morning on 14th Street. Oh, no. And he was just screaming and just yelling at the people behind the counter.

He was like, why aren't you feeding this homeless person who is standing next to me? He was advocating for the homeless, but not gracefully. Any other actors? Katy Perry. Lacking grace. Lacking grace, but with questionable intentions.

Okay, let's take this moment now to read off one of our Rules of Culture. Yes, it's a fan-submitted rule of culture. Yes, and let me just pull this right now. Which fan? I believe this is from our very good friend, Sudi Green. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw Sudi when I was getting a coffee two days ago.

Oh, where? Was it at Variety or whatever? No, I was on my way to work, and I stopped at the Whole Foods on Bedford and Forth. There you go. And I got a coffee there. Yeah. Because they had the almond milk I like. So she walks in from swimming, and she's like, oh, my God.

And we had kind of a convo in line. Yeah, yeah. And it was just kind of like a enjoy your day. Seeing comedians first thing in the morning is the best. I see Annie Donnelly sometimes. Oh, she's a treat to us. It's a treat. We gotta get her on.

That'll be a wild fucking coaster of an episode. Annie Donnelly. Did Annie Donnelly read you? No, I didn't put my name on that thing yet. Well, she's done. The library's closed. Okay, that's fine. Comedian Annie Donnelly recently posted on Facebook,

comment on this, or like this status, and I'll read you like a fucking drag queen. And so, a lot of people commented and liked it, and they got read. Now, what did she say about you, Bowen? She said about me, here's her read. I'm going to try to... I'm going to paraphrase.

She goes, Do your parents know your secret? No, not that you're gay, that you're honestly trying to break into the podcast. Which I read. I loved it. I loved it.

She said about me, Matt Rogers, if I ever want to find out what's happening in pop culture, I just have to go to your feed. If I ever want to find out everything I ever need to know about you, I need talk to you for five minutes you loud bitch she's so free no she just cuts it down she cuts it down you gotta love this is our our second fan submitted rule of culture from sudi green rule number 891 this is so many the sibling of a pop star may have one good album and that is it.

So I have questions about this. Your exhale there. Burden. Burden of a rule. What a burden of a rule because I was like yeah okay sure. Ashley Simpson. No. No. Well she had one. Metamorphosis. No.

Autobiography. Autobiography whatever. That's Hilary Duff. Metamorphosis. No. Autobiography. Autobiography, whatever. That's Hilary Duff. Metamorphosis was Hilary Duff. They've all gone through changes. But, no. Solange. Would you count...

I would count Solange as a sibling of a pop star who has... I would, too. Who has transcended that sort of label and released her own body of work. Also, to be honest, there is Janet Jackson. Of course. Yeah, you can. You know what? This rule.

So, Suji Aibo. Wow. Are we refusing to. I don't refuse it, but it's just there are such. Exceptions. Exceptions to this rule, such as Janet Jackson. There you go. Yeah.

You know what, Suji? I'm sorry. We reject this rule. We reject this rule. We reject this rule. Guys, the stakes are high, high, high. Even if you submit a rule of culture for us to include and canonize, there's a chance that we will reject it outright. And that's not on us.

That's on you, and you have to go to bed with that. Absolutely. Absolutely. Because we don't work for you. We work for Forever Dog Podcast Network. Yes. Now, Peter, tell us a little bit more. You are making a face.

About? Okay. I saw you on the street. You were wearing this beautiful pink shirt. Oh. And what, you don't want to talk about this? See, now all of a sudden, that's true, but you came in your shirt. I was looking at your shirt. Are we talking about Joanne?

Yes, we are. Okay. We're talking about Joanne. So Peter is wearing this pink shirt that says, 2004, 64th Sturgis Rally, Live to Ride, Ride to Live, SD, South Dakota, I'm assuming? So it's got a beautiful... It's bright pink.

Beautiful, hot, rowdy motorcycle there. Bright pink, looks fantastic on Peter. Thank you. And I said to them... Oh, no, I think they even said, this is just giving off Joanne vibes. Because I was looking at your shirt, let's all, for the listeners at home,

Bowen is wearing a Lady Gaga brand T-shirt. Yes, it's a black shirt with just a simple embroidered Lady Gaga. She is simple now. And she scaled it back. She's pared it down now. Yep. And I am wearing this shirt that because when I was a, well, whatever,

a long I-90. Which is in what state? It's a highway that goes through many states but it's how you get from Chicago to Montana. Okay. So I would drive a lot as a kid, and we would get Sturgis. It was like we would always drive in Sturgis as this motorcycle rally. And so for most of the trip, it'd be like surrounded by thousands of motorcycles on this road, this highway.

And it was like, oh, fuck, oh, fuck, oh, fuck, oh, fuck. Because they just were like boom, passed for a long time. It's's jarring yeah. So I drove there a few years ago when I got this shirt so I was like cute yeah it was a gas station and then I saw your shirt and then I have anxiety about this shirt cuz it's Joanne it's like Joanne because it's pink. The aesthetic of Joanne. Sure. Her look of Joanne. It's like girly. Like girly, like Western wear. Yes. Girly Americana. Yeah.

Sure. Okay. And she looks good, but I just was like, oh, this is like now, unfortunately, she's branded my, you know, image of this. Right. Which she's done her job. She took that from you. But I wouldn't have made that connection necessarily.

No. But now you've imprinted that on me. Well, obviously it's in Peter's mind. And Peter, a couple weeks ago, Peter has a great Instagram story. It's one of the superior ones out there, I will say. But Peter had

a sequence of images one night of Lady Gaga photos, mostly during the art pop slash cheek-to-cheek era, where she was wearing a lot of caftans, a lot of...

She had just lost one of her costume designers, art directors, Nicola Formichetti, who went on to work for Mugler, I think. He already was Mugler. Oh, he was already working for Mugler. We can get into the semantics of all of this.

We can, we can, we can. But basically, she was sort of at sea with her aesthetic for a while. Exactly. And she was wearing a lot of really funny, goofy things. I think it was sort of, I think it's sort of perfect. Like, it reflects the messiness of that time for her. But she was also, she'd also sort of put on some what she like filled out a little bit and peter was just viciously posting these photos it

wasn't it was not vicious okay fine fine i'm sorry there was like five pictures of her in these looks where she i guess is unflattering some of them were unflattering one of them more than flattering yes yes but I laughed and I didn't I didn't necessarily think oh this is a malicious thing but I said

Peter these Lady Gaga I texted Peter I was like these Lady Gaga photos that she is a vessel to

I don't know like I put we all I mean I think we put some stuff emotionally into her where like

some point in that time of her like eating a lot and like wearing dumb outfits. I'm going to say it. Dumb. They were dumb. Because she was at sea without someone to say like, wear this. It's really cool.

Right, right. And which people need to know that she had a great team working for. Right. And I don't know. I was just feeling it. Yeah. So I was like, yeah, OK, mood. I'm not taking it a task for this necessarily.

I just thought it was very funny and it affected me because I just I do have this emotional investment. And so I texted Peter and I said, I forgot what I said. Like, what is this? What is this? But then they said, oh, I this is just like what is this what is this but then they said oh I this is just like this is reflecting my weight journey and it's like

well me too because I feel like I'm going through this now where I'm like it's summer I can't fit into my shorts from last year all this stuff

and I think this is a conversation worth having we've talked about bodies before yes weight journeys through the lens of Gaga just in general well this is like and then after this time period of these like outfits she had her like bodies before. Yes. Weight journeys through the lens of Gaga.

Just in general. And then after this time period of these outfits, she had her my body is... Adele can be fat, but I can't thing that she said. Remember she said that? Yeah, that was pretty messy. That was kind of weird. It was weird. It was obviously come out of crazy insecurity.

Well, it's like... I mean, how would you react to everyone talking about your body? I mean, talk about... It's such a weird Well, it's like, I mean, how would you react if everyone was talking about your body? I mean, talk about like, oh, yeah, it is such a weird time because it's like, I guess not the beginning of the summer anymore.

No. But it's just past that point where it was like, well, I really didn't get ready for the summer in terms of my body. And now it's like too late.

In terms of like the social events were there and you were judged on how you looked like without any clothes on. Yes. I didn't even... Yeah, okay.

But it's just at that point now where it's like, okay, it's July. This is it for this summer. Again, I didn't do it. I didn't get it right for the summer again. And this is what it is. Sure. I saw you both in midriff-bearing tees last night. Sure. Well, I saw Sluck in midriff Bearing Tees last night Well I saw Sluck in Midriff Bearing Tees

That was Sluck That was Sluck Sluck for everyone that's listening That doesn't know is Bowen and I's Garbage dance duo Garbage dance duo We lip sync to trashy songs And pieces of little clips.

And it's disgusting. We have a full face of makeup and little shitty shirts and we go out in our underwear and we lip sync and perform. So Peter saw us last night. And I was going to say you both looked gorgeous. But this Gaga weight journey, I was feeling it and I was like,

okay, this is the only thing that can just like sum up what I'm feeling right now. Okay, but that's fair. Because I was feeling it and I was like, okay, this is the only thing that can just sum up what I'm feeling right now. Okay, that's fair. Because I was trying on outfits for a show and I was like, yeah. And then these pictures of her just chilling, walking out of

a plane. And then the weird cheek-to-cheek stuff where she did it. She wore an afro. It's like, you can't. What are you going to do? Oh, yeah.

She was going crazy there for a minute. It was really strange and bad. That black afro. Yeah. I kind of loved it. She sang Bang Bang in that, right? She sang Bang Bang, My Baby Shot Me Down.

Yeah. In kind of a My Cousin Vinny sort of thing. Or even a Moonstruck thing. Yeah. Or share at the Oscars for Moonstruck. Like gigantic. Gigantic Blackwig.

No, yeah. She sang Bang Bang My Baby, Shot Me Down live with Tony Bennett. It wasn't a duet, but she sang it herself. And I've gotten so much mileage out of just covering her rendition of that at the duet. You really have. So much. It's a showstopper. Have you ever seen Bowen that song you i i thought you've seen me do this okay well next time here's what i think we have to do i think lascautrice has to do a live show

at the duplex at some point yes and we have to have bowen's performance of bang bang i would love him shot me down i would love a musical. Shot me down. I would love a musical themed live show. Yeah. Not musical theater. I just mean like songs or sort of movies. We could, we do know a pianist. We know a pianist. We're familiar with a pianist.

We've got many singers, friends who are singers. Oh my God, have you heard Peter sing? Yes, I have. Torn? By Natalie Imbruglia? Yes. Oh my God. I was going to bring this up earlier

Peter at their show was it Trump's Jubilee mhm sings the most hauntingly beautiful wow rendition of Torn

by Natalie Imbruglia it's very kind it's a good song it's a great song oh my god the lyrics are so good it's a classic song Gaga's gotta cover it

on Cheek to Cheek 2 no only the standards it's Cheek to Cheek but it's a classic song. Gaga's got to cover it on Cheek to Cheek 2. No. Only the standards. It's Cheek to Cheek, but it's a two. Right, right, right. And Tony Bennett's dead. Long dead.

He's been long dead. She's just wheeling him around. There you go. I mean, it kind of felt like that at some point. Oh, definitely. She's like, Tony! It was weird. The Grammy, she's like, I love Tony. And then I think Tony Bennett really does think

Lady Gaga's first name is Lady I think so too In all the songs he's like Lady I think this Cheek to cheek body time was when she started Doing like plastic surgery on her face Oh sure She certainly looks different

Because she got lip injections I think She did have Botox too She like did the Frank Sinatra performance different because she got she got lip injections i think yep but i have botox too there was some she like did the frank sinatra performance something like that and it was like her face was she's gotten a facelift different sure sure and that was like a turning point for me being like whoa your face is now new yeah it looks different than it was yeah but there is still a sort of strice and s quality about your profile that the the nose just juts out and it's very bold and sharp. And I like that.

I think she still maintained the essence. The thing about Gaga is there were so many years where you didn't really know what she looked like. You know what I mean? When she first came out her bangs were so in her face and she was in such heavy costume. You never, in such intense

makeup, you never really got a sense of what she looks like. And so now I feel like people don't really talk about Gaga and how much plastic surgery she has or hasn't had. Because her face wasn't really a part of the thing. It wasn't. Because she did, she would contour differently some days and it was like, your face looks different. She would line her lips crazy some days.

You really didn't have a sense of what her quote-unquote makeup free face looked like until maybe like you and i where she just like wasn't wearing anything or even bad romance was the first time that it was unobstructed it was like oh there's not a fucking like bang yeah like not a banger uh you know like a fucking iphone chrome ip iPhone on your face. But no, I mean, and that's kind of brilliant on her part, I will say, that she kept the image, so whatever, flexible. Okay.

But I didn't mean to force this wait conversation on all three of us. No, no, no. I mean, I'm down. I just feel, I was thinking to myself, because I've been thinking about it, and I was thinking to myself, imagine looking in the mirror and being like fuck yeah some people do that I know but imagine how what that would feel like yeah and I don't know if yeah

I mean what like would that fix all the problems oh that that's how people get eating disorders when they fixes all the problems yes yes yes and it doesn't but by summer there are so many just like hot people walking around with no clothes on and i'm like darn it i'm not like darn it i'm like thank you see yeah thank you i i will eat these oreos right now thank you i love to look at hot people and then part of me is like am i turned on by them or am i jealous of them or what? I think it's, it's obviously

a vicious human combination of everything. We are the greatest game. Yeah, we're so complex. What is that?

The great, is it the greatest game? The most dangerous game. The most dangerous game. Which is about humans hunting each other. Yeah. Which I would love

to bring back. As a reality show with Jillian Michaels. Jillian! And you're hunting your skinny self. Yes. Oh, that's fun.

Peter, can I ask you a question? Yes. How do you think Bowen and I would do on The Amazing Race? Just hypothetical. Is there a doubt in your mind

that you wouldn't win? Absolutely. 100%. But only because I'm garbage. I think Bowen would win. No, because I don't have the stamina for it, and I don't have the patience for it, and I think I'm a good problem solver, but there is a critical...

Bowen, you're a certified genius. He's a certified genius, speaks multiple languages, and I have great ground speed. I can get places very fast. Yeah, and you can like you can risk it all for like you know you can grab

something fast. Yes, I would grab things the fastest. We did escape the room and I was always like over here! I don't want to do that. Yeah, like you keep it

and Bowen's like oh wait, now it's I think you would 100% win the damn prize. I can't I would refuse

to swallow you know a mole rat or whatever the fuck they do. I would do that. I don't know. Isn't that Fear Factor? I don't really watch. I wanted to go on Fear Factor when I was a kid. You would do great on Fear Factor. I was like, put me in that tarantula pit.

Are you fearless in that way? I think I just was like, this would be crazy because there are so many cameras on you that you're like, is this real? Yeah. And then you're like, this would be crazy because there are so many cameras on you that you're like, is this real? Yeah. And then you're like, I guess it is, but if I die, then this whole thing's going down, so they don't want me to die. So this is a weird environment where things are enabled, but you're being, it's, I want to get on that. Either you get on that or you host the fucking reboot. The reboot of Fear Factor.

Do you know who won Celebrity Fear Factor once? Who? Omarosa. Wow. Because the final challenge is to go into a room facing Omarosa. She just broke the mirror staring at herself. Omarosa. She won Celebrity Fear Factor.

Guess who she beat? Nikki McKibben from American Idol Season 1. Oh my god. I don't even know who that is. She came in third place. She was like the pink haired rocker. She was a Jennifer Hudson.

She was a Jennifer Hudson by rank. Yes. But she was the upset third place because she beat out Tamira Gray.

Yeah. But not an American Idol queen sitting in front of us. I really... American Idol rubs me the wrong way. It should. Oh, absolutely. It's an evil show.

It's an evil show. The, like, making fun of people, singing however they want. I don't like it at all. Yeah, we have friends who, like, have been personally victimized. And it's horrible. It's horrid.

But no, I mean, I think there needs to be... TV is evil. TV is evil, just in general. Except the Great British Baking Show. Oh, yes, of course. Wait, how far are you? I've seen three seasons. Okay, the ones that are on Netflix.

I need to catch up. I haven't pursued further. Are you a fan? What are your thoughts on Chetna? Come on. This is such an important question, Peter. The Great British Baking Show

finds its success Yes. on not tearing anybody down. I'm not asking to tear her down. I think she's talented. She, the only reason I ask is because, first of all, I will say I found her to be...

Is she the Middle Eastern one? She's Indian. Indian. And I found her to be a little bit not compelling to watch, which is not the point, but she was just... It's kind of the point.

It's kind of the point. It's TV. But she does have an amazing cooking channel on YouTube. She bakes, obviously, but she makes amazing native dishes. I can't taste it, so I couldn't say definitively, but it looks like the most amazing. That's the thing with those cooking shows. It looks like the most amazing butter chicken and chicken tikka masala and biryani. Oh, my God.

Okay, so there's a lot of garbage with those cooking shows, though, because you can't taste it. And also, I heard, T, that none of the contestants can taste each other's food. On British Bake Off? No, on all these cooking shows. Wait, why? Specifically, I'm talking about... Top Chef? Not Top Chef. I'm talking about... Top Chef?

Not Top Chef. I'm talking about MasterChef. Okay. I'm just... I hear... What is this? That... You're like such trepidation.

I know. Such the fear in your eyes. Because I don't want to say something I'm not supposed to say. Okay, I get that. You leave the room. We're all... People taste your things. I know why you're saying that.

And then you come back and then they give the critiques. And it's like, you're never allowed to taste each other's food. You would never know if a person deserved to win. And as a viewer, you would never know. You have to take their word for it based on who's the best. Sounds like Scientology. It sounds a lot like Scientology. You leave the room.

Somebody decides something for you. You come back. You can't question it. You can't question it. Is that Scientology? Sure. Sure. It's a bad way to do something with

groups of people and secrets. That's all you need. That's all you need to make Scientology happen. But Top Chef, I was always confused. One, how do they get the food plated to then have the shot of

where they show it and the 360 view of the food and then also they eat it. food plated to then have like the shot of, you know, where they like show it and they do like the 360 view of the food. And then also they eat it. And then they have more. I'm like, how many servings are you making? And like 10 minutes left. I'm like,

what is this actually mean? Because you probably have to plate the like, yes. Close up shot. Yeah. Well, that's how I feel about Great British Bakeout too. It's like, this is impossible.

I would collapse from exhaustion if I were in this situation. Also, in the heat of summer, under that tent, with a bunch of ovens. No, no way, no way. No, thank you. These, like, ruddy British people

who are like, it's very hot here. Well, apparently, they go home after each episode. Like, they go to their own literal homes, and they travel back to this

to like beautiful cuffing on kent cuffing on kent biffing on shropshire you sound lovely

thank you I want to go to biffing on shropshire to biffing on shropshire yes well that's where the great british baking show season 8

you know how many seasons are there oh there's there's been many and the ones that are That's where the Great British Baking Show Season 8. Ah! You know something? How many seasons are there? Oh, there's been many. The ones that are not... Did they just come to America? Well, there's the American one. Oh, is there an American one? I don't want to watch that.

I haven't seen it. With American bakers? Are they mean? I don't know. Probably. It's probably like, cutthroat! Yeah. No, they're not mean.

Hot producer Joe's shaking his head. It's on PBS, right? Yeah, he's nodding. I'm sure it's just- Oh, it's PBS? Yes. Oh, okay. So then it's fucking tame as hell.

It's genteel and tame. Yeah. All right. Publicly funded. Yes. We've reached the point in our show where we will- I don't think so, honey, for the gods.

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who might be like should I go see this uh huh like the first one was a party a party it was fun

it was really fun like you had a party going on it was so fun and everyone was just like watching this party but they were also in the party. It's like how I felt watching Hello, Dolly! the other day. Oh, my God.

Why didn't we talk about that? I'm so sorry. Hello, how was it in the short review? It's the best thing I've ever seen. Are you serious? With Bette Midler, it was the best thing I've ever seen. You saw it with Bette? Yeah.

God damn it. It was the best thing I have ever seen. Oh, my God. I lost myself for the majority of it. What did you think of the train? Sure, yeah. Great. She sat on it and went off.

I'm like, yeah, okay. Man, I want to see that. But just Bette doing bits. Yeah. Driving him into the goddamn ground. Yeah. Oh my God. Like a 10 minute bit.

Having fun, huh? She was having a great time. We were all just there for it. God damn it. I want to see that. I'll see it with anybody. I love me some Donna. I want to see it with her too. I go again.

I heard Bernadette is taking over. Okay, the rumors change week after week. First we hear it's- Well, it's not Dolly Parton. But then before that, it was someone else. Reba McEntire, they said for a second. But then it was also going to was someone else. Reba McIntyre, they said for a second. But then it was also going to be someone else.

All crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. Well, Sudi went to go see it. Yeah. And Bernadette was there. Oh, wow. And she posted about Bernadette being there. And someone who really sounded like they knew what they were talking about was like, that's because she's taking over.

That's the tea. But every week, it's always someone who really knows what they're talking about. Yeah, everyone really knew what they were talking about was like, that's because she's taking over. That's the tea. But every week it's always someone who really knows what they're talking about. Yeah, everyone really knows what they're talking about. And they should know that only we know what we're talking about. And I do want to say one thing. I'm so sorry. I have to say this. Okay.

There is Orlando tea. Oh, okay. All right. By Virginia Woolf. There is Orlando tea by Virginia Woolf. By Virginia Woolf. Orlando tea. She killed herself shortly By Virginia Woolf. Orlando Tea. She killed herself shortly after writing it.

Yes, yes. That was her last book. That she never published until now. So listen, as you know, I love to deliver the Orlando Tea. The Orlando Truth. The Orlando Gossip. This is what's happening in Orlando. Let's just say there's about to be a theme park war coming your way about 2019

2020 2021 okay so let me first go over what's going to happen over at disney world they have released a detailed detailed model of star wars land now this is in depth it shows where everything is going to be you actually see what where everything's going to be located. Yep, yep, yep. You're getting a Millennium Force simulator attraction. Apparently, it will be interactive to the point where how you do on the ride, in quotes, in terms of how you participate in the ride. Yes. While you're in the rest of the land, characters will approach you. Oh my God.

And interact with you based on your performance? Your heroic or failure of a performance in the ride. So they'll berate you? They will sleep no more you. They were going to sleep no more you. Yes, this is the rumor. Now, obviously some people are not going to want that.

So it's going to be voluntary, I hear. But they have those magic bands, which apparently that system is getting updated to. So look for that. So you opt in to sleep no more. Yes. So what was formerly Disney MGM Studios is now Disney Hollywood Studios. It's probably going to get renamed. To like Naboo.

No, to like. Wait, is that the one with the big sorcerer hat? Yes. Well, it's not there anymore. They've taken that down, and they're thinking about they're going to demolish or take down the great movie ride, replace it with rumored the great Mickey ride, which is going to be a Spider-Man Transformers-esque 3D motion simulator dark ride using Mickey, Donald Duck, Minnie, all those. So they're trying to move into that direction,

and they don't really have a ride that uses all those characters. So essentially they're turning Hollywood Studios into like an adventure park based on their big adventure movie properties. Yes, yes. So probably what's going to happen is the Tower of Terror is unfortunately

going to get rethemed to the Guardians of the Galaxy Rockin' Roller Coaster probably same thing probably going to be turned into something else themed to Marvel because Marvel is also going to figure into this park Fantasmic the nighttime spectacular show is going to get completely rethemed and updated

Toy Story Land is opening there they've released a lot of stuff about what's going to be in Toy Story Land I just want to say Matt is just this is off the top of his head. There is no fire in his eyes. This is in the last two or three days. And he does all come out. I'm sorry, Matt just has this memorized. To me, this is sad because the aesthetic of old,

well, for just like drag queens in general, and I'm just still talking about this because we're all here just sort of looking at each other sort of like the aesthetic

of like us going to Disney World and being like oh even just like that old Hollywood thing like now it's like Spider-Man

so these kids aren't going to have this like enchantment with old Hollywood opportunity to like or just like Twilight Zone was weird.

Like, I loved Tower of Terror because it was like Twilight Zone. And that will be something that people have to reckon with is the death of that kind of old aesthetic there

because they're going to try to revamp it and do something new. Also coming down is the Indiana Jones stunt show. Okay. So it's all coming down.

Just like you wouldn't know about Twilight Zone without Disney. Right, exactly. A little bit, yeah. And that's kind of like

how I felt about, you know, all the old movie properties that they used to kind of, there was a lot of classic movie rides at Universal Studios. Like, you know, your Jaws, your, they still have E.T., but like all that stuff is kind of gone now for like, you know, Fast and the Furious is getting a ride next year. And that's like a movie property, but it's not a classic movie property. They did an okay job of kind of like, it's a franchise a franchise right and so they know it'll make money and they know

it'll bring people in now so that's happening over at hollywood studios which is to be renamed and to be completely rethemed yes additionally the magic kingdom is getting tron light cycle is getting the tron light cycle roller coaster now getting the Tron Light Cycle roller coaster. Now, originally, the tea was they were going to take out the Speedway. Oh. They were going to take out the Tomorrowland Speedway where you drove around in a little car. But that's changed. Now they're saying they're going to keep that.

The Tron Light Cycle coaster is going to be behind it. Oh. Also rumored, there's going to be an in-park hotel behind the Haunted Mansion that's themed as a haunted mansion hotel. That is your wildest dream come true. I'm down for that. And this is like- I love that.

This is a breaking, that's a brand new rumor. Wow. Now, moving over to Universal. Okay, and this is where- This is where the gag. This is the gag. And now we find out.

This is the gag. And now we find out. This is the gag. Yeah. So, hearing that Disney is getting the Tron light cycle ride. Yep. Which is a half light, half dark roller coaster. Yes. I've been on it in Shanghai. You ride it like a bike and Bowen has done it and he described it as.

It's Space Mountain on every drug. It's the most thrilling thing I've ever been on. They made me take my glasses off. So once we were in the indoor portions, I didn't have depth perception. It was dark all around you, but with neon lights and it just looked like I was in this infinity field of light and it was

blurry light and it was gorgeous. Universal hears that Disney is bringing Tron to the United States. Yes. And, you know, this is going to be a one-of-a-kind theme park experience. But. But.

They are going to tear down the Dragon Challenge, formerly Dueling Dragons, iconic roller coasters that are there. You know, they were racing and inverted and dueled. Two different roller coasters. Near misses. Helices. Right. Oh.

They're taking it down. And there's going to be a Harry Potter Forbidden Forest dark ride slash roller coaster that uses the same exact ride vehicle and technology as Tron. So basically they're coming in and saying- You're not on a broomstick. You're not on a broomstick. You're on that thing that Hagrid rides. And someone's going to be able to ride in the little thing next to you

in the little pod. Yes. It's a motorcycle. It's an enchanted motorcycle. Exactly. It's going to be like a Hagrid ride, I guess, through the Forbidden Forest.

This is war. Because literally right where Dragon Challenge is is where the Forbidden Forest would be in relation to Hogwarts Castle. So, yeah. So Disney's not going to be happy when they hear about that. Okay. Or I'm sure they're not happy now.

When they find out. When they find out. Of course. When they listen to this podcast. Of course I am breaking all the news. So now we're going to have another Harry Potter extreme theme park experience up there with Gringotts and the Forbidden Journey. I've yet to go to Harry Potter World.

You must. I know I must. Are you a fan of the series? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, not everybody. We can't assume that everybody is.

I didn't read The Cursed Child. I think I've come maybe have given it to you. The new stuff, I'm like, I don't do that. We did a whole episode

of this podcast about how The Cursed Child was garbage. I don't know. You gotta go up here. The seven books and then also to have it be

live in it? It's the same aesthetic as the movies, right? It's the same set. Very similar. When I walked into Diagon Alley, I kid you not, it was an emotional experience. Diagonally. Diagonally.

The music was playing, and it just felt... A sound bath. A sound bath, and it felt like I was in fucking Diagon Alley and I wanted to cry so all of this is happening in 2020 also in 2021 probably you're getting Super Nintendo Land

in Universal Studios Florida which is taking over the kids section of the thing apparently you're getting a Donkey Kong mine cart coaster you're getting a Mario Kart sort of dark ride slash coaster and a Zelda apparently like a Broadway

level Zelda show. Oh my god. There's my ticket to Sardom. Lose 20 pounds and move to Orlando. You would just start screaming. You would be Zelda. Just be screaming. Anything. Just get me in this show. I think they should get Peter to play both Zelda and Link.

And Sheik. And Sheik. And Sheik who is queer. Give me all the checks. Give you all the checks. For each role. Here's the thing, guys. You gotta book your tickets for 2021.

Get it. Because all this new shit's gonna be there. Also, you know. Do you have yours? Today, Bowen texted me and he goes, I was thinking about doing an impulse buy for like literally next week. And I was like, no, we have to wait. We have to wait to see what's about to happen.

You can go again. I was just literally. How much was it? It was altogether. A bit much. Under a thousand, but still. I want to go. I still haven't gone to Pandora.

Bowen's been to Pandora. I haven't been to Pandora a couple of months ago. But I'm just saying. It was fine. All it's been to Pandora. I haven't been yet. I went to Pandora a couple months ago, but I'm just saying. It was fine. It was fine. All it took for me to be inspired to text Matt to let's buy tickets again was I was literally just looking at a map of Florida

on my laptop, and I was like. Why? And smack dab in the middle was Orlando, and I was like, I want to go back. What brought you to the map of Florida? It's shaped like a dick. It's shaped like a dick, and I'm just drawn to Phallus, but I saw Orlando to the map of Florida? It's shaped like a dick. It's shaped like a dick, and I'm just drawn to Phallus.

But I saw Orlando on the map, and I was like, there is magic happening there every day. I'm sorry I took us so far away, but I had to give the tea because there was so much tea. You love Disney. It's not Disney. It's Orlando. It's everything. It's the park culture. It's park culture.

It's the park culture. I could also get into- You've been to Branson? Even what? You've been to Branson? Have you been to- culture. You've been to Branson? Even what? You've been to Branson? Have you been to Branson, Missouri? No, no, no. What's in Branson, Missouri? It's basically Vegas for...

Queers. No. In a major way, no. In a major way. Okay, the flat image, 2D image that we have created of, like, in our mind what a Trump supporter is and looks like and, like, where they live and all that, whatever, Jazz, it's for that creation in our mind. Okay. Right. It's catered to them. Parton has an experience there which is like Enchanted Castle but like a

pistol saloon shooter show on horses. There's like a huge Madame Tussauds with all of the kind of fucked up first tries kind of go there. Yes. Thank God. First passes. Actually, I have a picture with

Hugh Hefner on his bed. Oh my God. In Branson. Rest in peace. I'm going to drag that out. It was this weird room of this bed that you take a picture on with him. And you put these ears on. And it's in the middle of Missouri. And I'm like, this is for Christian. Everything has a cross on it.

And everything kind of comes back to a Bible story. Oh, my God. And we went on a showboat. And every song had, no matter what song, it had a slideshow of Jesus behind it. Sure. And everyone was just eating their potato, enjoying themselves. But Branson, in terms of park culture, Silver Dollar City,

you must go. All right. We'll go, we'll go. You must go. There are so many beautiful ladies in turquoise belts and long skirts and in trios singing songs of the hills. Will I have to dress up like a Trump voter to fit in? No.

I think I was wearing like... They have a Titanic museum there. Wow. They have a Titanic museum where you get a character and you go in and you might die at the end and everybody dies. Okay, well, have you been to Worlds of Fun in Kansas City? No. Okay, it's another theme park. It's pretty decent, but it is sort of like

just a tier below Six Flags in terms of quality, but it's pretty solid. And safety. And safety. I think it's a safe park. It's a safe park. Theme parks, they're out there. Let's move on to I Don't Think So, Honey.

This is our segment in the show where we go on on a one minute screed against anything in culture um matt or do you have something something prepared i have something that i could go on about okay all right let's let's do it so this is matt rogers i don't think so honey time starts now i don't think so honey bronchitis i have you right now and i don't know if you've been hearing on the podcast but i've been turning away from the mic took off. Don't worry, y'all. I'm not contagious. Okay. Bronchitis has been very difficult for me because when you have bronchitis, you have to have cough medicine.

And cough medicine, I don't know if you've ever had it. It makes you very tired. I have been in a fugue state for the past three days, you guys. I don't think so, honey. Bronchitis, it makes me cough. I feel like I can't breathe. I went to the doctor the other day, and I said to him know this feels different oh this feels different 30 seconds and he said let me test you and i had a funny doctor and i think so honey my funny doctor okay he felt my chest he said

breathe in he goes that's good he's like you got a good heart too do you know what that means i said what he said it means you're a good person and i laughed because it like wasn't a good joke but you know what I mean? Like, he was making it fun for him. So I think so, honey. And I don't think so, honey, his diagnosis of bronchitis. I'm on a Z-Pak right now. Time will tell.

If five days is even enough for medication. I don't think so, honey, the Z-Pak. I still feel congested. One minute. Oh, man. I'm so sorry. I don't know. And you know it's not comfortable to have this in the summer.

No. Sick in the summer. It's not cool for the summer. Not cool for the summer. No, summertime sadness. Wow. Absolutely. I just feel like, what about the Z-Pack? Like, I hope that-

Z-Packs make me break out in full body hives. Okay, we just had Rachel Winitsky on the show. She had a vomit fest when she had her Z-Pack. Well. I can't do it. I can't do it. You can't do it either? Oh, no. I'm saying I will not do it because I've never had her Z-Pack. Well. I can't do it. I can't do it. You can't do it either? Oh no,

I'm saying I will not do it because I've never had a Z-Pack but all these horror stories are making me. I blew up and I had tiny dots. I was like a, like it was medieval

what happened to me. Oh God. A bubonic thing. My face swole, like swollen up shut. Oh my God. Rolled myself to the ER and they like popped me

and bloodlet me. Horrific. Horrific. Oh my God. Oh my God. You know what? They had to pop him and bloodlet me. Horrific. Horrific. Oh my God. You know what? They had to pop him and bloodlet him. Yeah, baby.

Yeah, baby. They draw a cord. I think we can put them out of business. It's time for Bone Yangs I Don't Think So Honey and is he prepared? I'm prepared.

Okay. Bone Yangs I Don't Think So Honey time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey Final Fantasy 14 servers. I am not able to even log on to my character, Rupa

Rupa, a level 51 summoner who has an amazing Garuda edgy avatar. Oh my god. And every time I log on, you always boot me and say that the world is full. There's a queue of 20 other players going, but then I try again and lo and behold I magically appear into the world. All of a sudden I skip that line. Am I cutting other people in line?

Because I don't want to do that. I don't think so, honey. Don't make me be that person. I don't want to be a villain in this world. I don't want to do that. I don't think so, honey. I don't want to... Don't make me be that person. I don't want to be a villain in this world. I don't want people coming after me saying, hey, you cut me in the line for the Q to the world. 30 seconds. And how are you playing as a level 51 summoner with a Garuda edgy avatar?

And I can't. So I don't think so, honey. Final Fantasy XIV servers for not being reliable. And when I go into a dungeon or a raid with eight other players who are expecting me to support them as a DPS and deal damage to the bosses and to all the mobs. I don't think so, honey. That makes me look bad, and I do not

respect you assassinating my character. Final Fantasy XIV servers. So I don't think so, honey. Squaresoft, Square Enix, Mogstation, and my Square Enix password that sometimes does not work. I don't think so, honey. You had a lot of words per minute there.

That was actually your most worth WPM. You'd be a great secretary. That's one minute. Wow. You had a lot of words per minute there. That was actually your most worth WPM. You'd be a great secretary. Thank you. Secretary. Great. Secretary. I don't think so, honey. I am not prepared

because I think the best thing that happened at your show, which I hope happens at the next one, if I may say. Troll bowl. The fish bowl.

Yes. Is the best way. The troll bowl will return. And in fact, what you're saying, Peter, is that you like the troll bowl. I think everyone should just pop in. Damn, it's funny.

I can give you a troll bowl. Please give me a troll bowl. Okay. Okay. Got it. Alright, great. Peter Smith, your topic is the hardworking middle class. And your time starts now. I don't topic is the hardworking middle class, and your time starts now.

I don't think so, hardworking middle class. Yeah, I don't want to see, oh, complaining about gas prices as you're trying to get to the gap at the mall. Yeah, I don't think so, honey. I don't think so. You talking about going paleo? Yeah, I hear you over there. I hear you over there, college kid whose parents are a hardworking middle class. Yeah, I don't think so, who are paying your ass to get through college.

Yeah, yeah, oh, now you're complaining about, oh, your different diet you're going on. Yeah, that's bullshit, right? Because your parents, yeah, they're doing their jobs. They're getting in the way of their own happiness because they're working too hard. I don't think so working too hard. I don't think

so very hard working middle class because you know what? You've given up on something and you're devoting your life to money. And that's one minute. Wow. Burned them. Wow. Don't you ever ever come for

Peter Smith on his take down. Also like the hard working middle class. The hard working middle class. Not the lazy middle class. No, no, no. You have to come for the hard working middle class. The ones who deserve to be helped out of the hole they're in. The elbow grease.

You've got to come for that. Yes, you've got to come for them because... Because sometimes they don't always make the right decisions. We all got to get pigged down a couple of times. That was gorgeous. I don't think so, honey. You know why? Because Peter...

Measured. Measured, but just chewed into every word. I loved that. You know, I loved it too, and I loved this. You know, I loved it too and I loved this episode of the podcast. I cannot wait to see Peter at the live show

as well as 49 other brave souls who are going to confront the Trill Bowl. They're going to confront the audience. They're going to confront us. They're going to confront themselves. I like how you called it a fool's errand. It was a fool's errand for us

to get 50 people together. We have lots and lots of people that will in future installments also come on. We were just like, these are the 50. It's a fool's errand to just organize this. It's so fun. It's so worthwhile.

I already started making a list of people that we haven't had on the first or second one and there's a long list so don't worry everyone the sun will touch your face you will get to get up

on that stage in Gowanus in Gowanus the sun shines in Gowanus the sun shines over the Gowanus canal yes thank you so much

for having me when you sent me the invitation, I just started laughing. And no one had said anything yet. But I threw my head back and started cackling. Wow. Wow, wow. August 26th.

Right? August 26th. Oh yeah, I'll be at Duplex at August 26th. And we don't know the show yet, but just know that Peter will turn out an incredible performance. Oh my God. They will be performing.

And one more time, August 11 11th go online and buy tickets for I Don't Think So Honey Las Colteristas Live at Littlefield 8pm okay this has been Bowen Yang and this has been oh my god oh my god what you forgot I don't know your name

Karina Brunt. And that's Peter Smith. Guys, bye. Bye. Bye. Bye, guys. Bye.

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