Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "You Can't Trust These Gay Guys" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: December 20, 2023

In the last Las Cultch of 2023, the boys get holistic. After paying Madonna respects, Matt and Bow recap their respective years, which were turbulent yet important! Lessons learned...knowledge gained! They also get into Ziwe/Santos and the pros and cons of platforming clownery, anal sex in the Senate Hearing Room and why it may or may not be being covered by mainstream media, the only sex tape Matt and Bowen will ever film, whether or not your "Close Friends" can be trusted, and how the political climate affects pop culture discourse at any given time. All this, Bowen Yang as mustache top, a theme park breaking news update from Matt, Tate McRae's new album and the return of the dance break, Billie Eilish being stunning on SNL, the Kathryn Hahn Agatha show constantly changing its name, and why Claire Foy might not "do blue" when it comes to autograph. We will see you in the new year, RPKF's!!!!! We love you. Happy Holidays. The sisters will be taking the next two weeks off. We will be back on Wednesday, 1/10, with a new episode. Happy holidays and happy New Years!  This bonus episode is available early for subscribers to Big Money Players Diamond on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/lasculturistasSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. Hey guys, this is Matt, and I'm actually emotional because this is my last plug of the year

for Have You Heard of Christmas, the tour. I am having my last few shows. I would love for you guys to come. I'm at the Castro Wednesday, December 20th in San Francisco, Ace Hotel Thursday, December 21st in LA. And on Saturday, December 23rd, I will be at the town hall in New York City. And then I will just disappear into a cloud of smoke. I promise you. But anyway, stream the album, come see us on tour. And if you have already, into a cloud of smoke. I promise you. But anyway, stream the album. Come see us on tour. And if you have already, I love you so much.

It's been the joy of my life meeting you guys. Love you. Okay, here's Las Culturistas. Look, man. Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture?

Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. Wait, I have a question for you. Yes.

Did you end up going to Madonna? I am going to apologize profusely to the people. Well, first and foremost to Madonna for not going. Yeah. But also to the lovely people at the Barclays Center. The lovely people at H&M who are going to generously put me up in their finest silks to go and attend the concert. To go in their little box. But you know what?

I'm going to throw my other SNL girlies under the bus. They invited some of us. We all were like, we're so at zero. Like it was not going to be the right vibe i think it's just fine also you know she didn't end up going on for so long like she makes you wait because bitch she's madonna etc it's been said before it will be said again i'm sure she'll say it bitch i'm madonna you're gonna wait for me and you guys can't be waiting up you gotta get your beauty rest no madonna is on Lauryn Hill time in terms of live performance. Or I'm sorry, Miss

Lauryn Hill. And we cannot rush these people. They deserve the time. But it's not going to work with my current spirit. This time? This time. This is not a complaint. I'm being very sensitive

about this. I'm being very sensitive about this. I'm not complaining that my life is any harder than anyone else's. I just think it was not going to work for Madonna at the Celebration Tour, which it looks fabulous. It looks like everyone's having a great time. I've been paying my respects because I know I'm not going to be able to go either.

Can I tell you what song goes so hard? Tell me. La Isla Bonita? Absolutely. And someone said on Twitter, if Madonna's going to do one thing, it's perform La Isla Bonita. Like, she is out here performing. Were you going to say La Isla Bonita? No, I wasn't.

I was going to say Gang Bang off MDMA. Oh, my God. Such a shocking name. I do love MDNA. MDNA kind of got... MDNA goes in very hard. I love love MDNA. MDNA kind of got... MDNA goes in very hard. I love Gimme All Your Love. I just love

the whole chanting. Oh, one of the greats. L-U-V Madonna! Y-O-U U-A-N-A! It's so fun. We love MDNA. We've never said anything otherwise. just it feels like

sacrilege that this my year of going to and celebrating all the divas all the icons to miss madonna the icon a couple weeks ago a bunch of my friends went to la for chris schleicher's birthday and they saw kylie minogue in what looks to be such a stunning room. But I did see Kylie at World Pride. So I actually checked my Kylie box before Padam was even Padam. Isn't that unbelievable? And I have a feeling this might be our last episode of the year. So this can very much be wrap up because I just don't think we're going to do one for the last week.

So this might be the last coach of the year. That's okay. Let's make it recap episode. Come on, let's go. It's unbelievable that that was this year, that I was in Sydney, Australia this year, vomiting in Ubers because of a mixture of alcohol abuse and mourning and grief and vomiting all over myself

and then finding myself at the Kylie Minogue concert, a different day. I didn't go to the Kylie Minogue concert covered in vomit but going to see her at World Pride pre-Padam that was this year pre-Padam oh my god that was pre-Padam

oh I have to say one of the things that we have to always remember is that Padam Padam was not just always here. No, it feels like an eternal song, an eternal sort of missive from the ancients. Oh, 100%. This is something that actually was born in the early summer and allowed it to be Song of the Summer and the winner of Record of the Earth, the Lost Culture, Reels,

Cultural Awards, a fate that a lot of people didn't see coming for it, but we knew from the beginning. Well, we were so lucky to have her perform at the show, even though she looked suspiciously like Patty Harrison. Yeah. I mean, do we reveal at this time that it was Patty the whole time? It was Patty. Do we finally pull back the curtain on that?

Let's take a second and just appreciate Patty Harrison's ear. Before we get into ours, let's talk about Patty Harrison. That girl, I think, she has a future. She's got big things coming. She's got big things coming. And by big things coming, I mean the big things on her

chest. Oh my god, her titties. She's got big fake tits that are infected. And she does a show about it. Me seeing her do that show in Edinburgh was this year. So many divas. Let's talk about your year. I just want to rattle off a few things that you've been through.

Okay. Not been through, but that you've gotten to experience. No, let's do it. Let's get it holistically going. Well, okay. Holistic episode. Before we get holistic, I just want to to put out there i just want to put clay on the table okay my favorite thing to do sure you're always clan sydney world pride edinburgh fringe las culturas culture awards these are things we've just talked about my gosh multiple shows

multiple performances oh yeah have you heard of Christmas, the album, the music videos, the visualizers? Rockefeller Center, in Rockefeller Center. Yeah, we went there. A Kelly Clarkson show, included in the multiple shows. A wonderful sort of traveling to London, to Amsterdam, to Berlin. So much. All of these things. I think you've had a really eventful textured.

Let's just say textured year. Can I? I'm going to be 100% real. Okay. This year, right? It couldn't have started worse. I think I spent the whole first half of it like not myself. I think I was grieving and mourning a relationship that ended for maybe what

I would call, but my therapist would say to stop being hard on myself, but a disproportionate amount of time, like truly difficult. And then pivoted to the Christmas of it all, which really took up the last half of the year. Literally the second half of the year, July to December. Yeah. And it's been one of the most interesting years of my life because it has been like truly every emotion. Like I was looking back on it and I was thinking, wow, I really always thought this was like one of the worst years of my life. I was like really struggling, like emotionally looking back on it. I think it was an important year because I did learn a lot.

And I think that like even those periods of like really doing bad because I was really doing bad. I mean, like me going to all those concerts and traveling that much was entirely a cover for me just not wanting to sit with myself because I was too fucking depressed. I was just getting stoned every single day, sitting in my apartment, eating bad. I don't think I've ever fucking depressed. I was just getting stoned every single day, sitting in my apartment, eating bad. I don't think I've ever ate worse in a single year than this year.

It was horrible. And then I put my whole energy into this Christmas thing, which usually every year, if I am having a tough one, saves me and brings me out. And this year, it's been really interesting because I feel like I hit like the maximum on this bit, which is the Christmas project. Because literally when I started it in 2017, I thought, oh, the thing that's funny about it is Christmas ubiquity. Like that to me is what's the funniest thing about it. That's the whole bit is like you can become ubiquitous during Christmas if you just nail it during the Christmas season. And so then all these years later... The reality is you are Christmas ubiquity.

To say yes to every single opportunity. And I am so tired. I'm having the best time of my life, but I am so tired. It is so weird the way that the internet of it all, just riding that wave too, just like the interesting things that happen on the internet when you all, just riding that wave too. Just like the interesting things that happen on the internet when you put yourself out there this much for this project has been so interesting. So as a meta project in a way, I feel very proud and happy to have landed the bit and stuck the bit and like the album did great. And I fucking love meeting everyone at the shows and being on the

road and performing the material that I still like performing. But I am fucking exhausted. And ultimately, I will leave the year having been like, you know what, I got through it. It was an emotionally really difficult time. Professionally, it was an incredible time. And there's positive and negative things about both that I didn't realize before. So it was a fucking growing year. Absolutely. And next year, if I have resolutions, it's be better with money, way less internet,

like the Twitter's going, kiss goodbye to our Twitter. Can we announce here once and for all, this has been months in the making, we're taking down our Twitter. And we are- It is no longer mentally healthy. I has been months in the making. We're taking down our Twitter and we are no longer mentally healthy. I am still keeping my porn alt, unfortunately. And by porn alt, I mean, do it. I'm not posting anything. It's just I'm aggregating the porn girls.

Yeah. So way better with money spending, way less Internet and overall overall just more balance, less extremes, less going everywhere and doing every fucking thing because I can't fucking handle myself. And even professionally, no longer saying yes to everything just because I feel like if I take a break one day that the album will flop or it's all on me. I just push myself so fucking hard. And then just because you show up and have a positive energy and like work really fucking hard. Like that doesn't always mean like operating in this kind of environment of like the internet and like the press thing, etc. That it's always going to be positive. And so just tons of lessons learned. And then a bunch of personal things too.

Like red flags are red flags you know it's nice to take your time but that's for me that's what I think I would say girl you have grown like a giant stalk to the sky I got 22 tattooed on my arm

because 2022 was like a year where I really like felt like everything I did paid off and I reminded me to take risks, but I probably should have that fucking number 23 tattooed on my arm because it was actually more important. I think it was a more of a test. It was less constant high. There were a lot more lows and sustained lows, but ultimately like a triumphant good year where I learned things and at least have a plan going forward about like the way I can make my life better doing the things that we do. You might have to get an arm extension surgery because you might keep getting those years

that tattooed on. You are going to learn every year. It's just like, wow, this was another year tattoo it on my body to the point where I'm the most tattooed woman in America. And it's just numbers. I'm like Adele, but with my own body and dumber. That's a sleigh.

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the summary, the recap of Bowen Yang's 2020 fucking three well i think mine started really harrowingly too i think january 2nd i was on a plane to go to london and thus began my like yo-yoing between two i was gonna say time zones, but really two nations. And then after a while, it not becoming so good for my physical and mental state. And that on top of working what's already a pretty demanding job emotionally, mentally, physically was a wonderful illustration of my limits as a person. And I think that is actually quite beautiful to know about yourself. I think I took time this year, as everyone knows, to like really gather myself because it got bad.

I think I had one of the lowest lows of my life just on an awareness level. And the big takeaway from that was not only like personal things and self knowledge, but I was just like, Oh, the people who matter, a lot of whom are the listeners of this podcast can understand where I'm

coming from. And they will, there were many moments this year where like RPKFs were like very, they got it, you like very they got it you know they got it yeah they got it when we were comfortable or not comfortable with something they respected it completely and that is extremely rare and we are so thankful and it just speaks to how how thoughtful everyone is and we really appreciate that they They're the best. They're the best. And I'll say again,

I fucking love meeting you guys because you're all gorgeous. Like literally, I'm obsessed with the people that listen to our podcast. I mean like... Slay legends. You guys are great.

But keep going. That's basically it. It was just a lot of ping-ponging that was like the main thing for the first half and then with the strikes that was really tough but also necessary and it was nice to sort of feel some sort of community with other writers other actors i think you and i also got to educate ourselves on how this whole business works in nice ways, in ways that are illuminating but also troubling.

I am loving the inkler. If anyone wants any sort of insight into the entertainment industry, it's a good sub stack. This is my year of sub stacks, honestly. And then, gosh, and then going right back into work was a really abrupt shift, but one that I think we were all grateful to do or to sort of go through.

And we did eight shows in 10 weeks at SNL, which is a lot. Normally we get those spaced out a bit or we have some more padding in between runs. And I think we all met that challenge well. And I'm really proud of everybody who works with the show, cast, writers, crew. And there's a real sense of community, not community of just like siblinghood. Like I think everyone, the vibes are really good there right now. And that is a collective sort of mindset that we all are putting aside ego as much as possible, even though it's extremely difficult at that job. Everyone is supportive. It's been really nice. I love seeing everybody shine. We've got a good

bunch of people. And I think on a cast level, I kind of am really into the fact that SNL is having this like ensemble era to quote Joy Behar, Fred Armisen is Joy Behar. So what, who cares? It's like, I don't think a show like SNL necessarily needs like an identifiable star. Like it was amazing to have Kate back and like,

I love and miss the Kate Cecily 80 era where you had like these like people that like really drove and led the show. I kind of like that we're all sharing the wealth a bit. I honestly do. Yeah, I will say you have seemed in this, because you just said it's been a lot of shows in a short amount of time and going right back in, et cetera.

I think that what makes me so happy is you seem the happiest there that you've ever been. That's true. I can feel that from you. And I also think that what makes me so happy is you seem the happiest there that you've ever been. That's true. I can feel that from you. And I also think that you have been absolutely fucking crushing it too. And it feels like you're excited creatively and professionally. And maybe that is because the ensemble feels right or the vibes feel right. But you've been so good, obviously, on the show.

And it seems like personally, like, and I'm just like so happy to see it because I know how bad some segments of the year were. I felt bad in the past. And like, that's not to say that, like, I mean, the winter is always tough, just emotionally, vibes wise. We're all just like depressed from the cold and whatever. But yeah, I have really settled into something nice. I'm very lucky there. I think I am heard there. I think people, there is a level of care and thought for me. It's not been easy. It's been as challenging of a year as any. I just really, each and every person there at the show right now, I really appreciate and enjoy. And they're all very good at what they do like everybody

everybody that's great yeah you know what did Becca say a certified fave of my dad I mean Mr. Ramos let us not go without saying that there was an ABBA Christmas sketch that started Bowen Yang

Maya Rudolph Kristen Wiig and Kate McKinnon okay like i mean let me just pump my sister up for a second all of his ensemble talk aside which i do believe and do agree with the truth there's still there still was a little bit of a quartet happening in that abba christmas sketch and i said my girl in by the way the transformative makeup and you really do rock a mustache I said I need to do a project with Bowen Yang where you are a mustache top

girl I wish my follicles could produce the mustache I'm writing it looks incredible on me it belongs on your face the way it belongs on your face but I can't naturally produce this I can't naturally make my own but you know what you can naturally produce?

Joy. Girl. I'm looking at the joy factory right now. You are the joy king. I've been so up and down. I've been so up and down. Of course you have. This has been the most, it's been the weirdest weirdest year. It's been a weird year. I have no expectations

for the next one. I really don't. Yeah. but as a unit of time as an arbitrary unit of time I am very just in awe of like oh god we're at that place now obviously all of us where we're like oh gosh that was this year like I think that's

a very and look it's tough like bad things are happening in the world worse things might come horrors hor come horrors horrors horrors all around but at least we have each other at least we have each other and at least george santos has finally wished for you to have egot status i can't say that i watched that and felt good about it okay let's talk about the Z-Way interview with George Santos, because it is culture. When I heard that she was going to do it, I had a group chat going,

and a lot of people were like, oh, we really wish she wouldn't do this. Why are you platforming him? I don't want to see him, et cetera. And I was like, look, she's got one fucking job. Z-Way's one job is to be a comedian. And what that should mean is fucking dragging people like this into the clown square and saying tomato, tomato, tomato, tomato, and pointing at the fool. And I think she did that. I think she did too. Look, I mean, like it was entertaining. Do I think

it's a shame that you cannot humiliate him? Like you cannot actually expose ignorance in him, which is when I think Z-Way's song is song. Z-Way's song. I mean, she is a pop star. She is a pop star after all., which is when I think Z-Way's song is... song. Z-Way's song. I mean, she is a pop star. She is a pop star, after all. But it's when I think Z-Way's show is

most successful and effective is when it feels like someone, because of their own ego, who couldn't help but grab the spotlight, something about their ignorance is exposed about them about like their blind spot or something evil about them or something that's like you know incredibly

ignorant that they think and i feel like you can't do that with him like i do kind of think like when she asked like what can we do to make you go away and he said stop inviting me places but you can't. I was kind of like I mean he's got her there like at that point I think like she is operating outside of a traditional sort of like she's putting this on like ZNN and her YouTube channel

like she is no longer like journalist drag. No she's doing journalist drag and like look like Showtime was flop enough to cancel her show. I'm sorry to call Showtime a flop, but in this case, and in other cases, you could say that. I'm sure the people at

Viacom will survive with me calling them this. That's fine. I think she still succeeded in what she does best, which is, whether or not he feels humiliation, it's still some kind of like Emperor's New Clothes thing where like she can make you look foolish

and like even the whole Marsha P. Johnson James Baldwin thing not knowing who those people are of course he doesn't know who they are of course he doesn't know who they are but it's like the rest of it is also just like us understanding on a slightly deeper level that he is like just kind of ridiculous person.

Pathetic. And then I like in the beginning, I think she did the responsible thing in the beginning by being like, no, congressmen were paid in the making of this video, even though George Santos asked three times. Three times. That is. Yeah, Z-Way. That's Z-Way. That's Z-Way. And I think that is successfully embarrassing, George, even though we don't see him feel it you know what i mean yeah i mean maybe in the totality of it

it's like a little embarrassing i don't think it is though and that's the thing is it's just like look like i said it's her job to point to the world and be like this is fucked up this like that's that's a comedian's that should be our job and like pointing out something about like our society that's like hey look over here like this is unusual or suspect for some reason and obviously like we all already knew that about him so that's where i guess it falls a little short there's nothing to be revealed but i did have fun watching it do i think it's good for the world that we have him on tape doing the nikki monster verse i don't really know you know what I mean but I

fucking think that she is a fucking original she's the only one that could have done I think it would have been weird had she not said like George Sandals you'd be an iconic guest and then he said okay let's do it so what is she supposed to do not no of course yeah exactly

and I think she also looked fucking sensational amazing she looked amazing and i do think like i get that it's polarizing and some people like how could you do this and other people were like slay mama and i think it's absolutely firmly somewhere in the middle where it's just like no i don't think there's anything particularly grand slam about this but like it was entertaining it was you know whatever that means but also like the fact that he's platformed is not her problem it's our problem we platform people like this all the time and mass he's not even close to being the worst person in government like think about

like everyone i mean like we platform these people this is the hell that we live in. We are dancing in hell right now. Yes. And it's like the fact that she had him on her show, that's just like the reality of our world. Be mad at that. Right, right, right. The thing that set it into motion was him getting elected, even though it was reported on later that he was this grifter. I mean, any feeling of, ooh, this isn't the best is solely his fault and it doesn't reflect on z-way at all it reflects on us as a society like this is what the world is on fire and we

refuse to put it out and until we put it out this is just what it is like this is the famous political figure right now it's not z-way's fault it's not entertainment's fault it's the fucking reality of the world this person was elected to congress and we're living in a post-trump world like you know what i mean it's this isn't a new thing like platforming criminals who are also in government this goes back people like i understand like you know you might think that like the way we put out that fire is for Z-Way to not platform this person. But this person has been legitimized by the fucking populace. Yeah. It just is what it is. He's not just going to go away. He was elected

to Congress. Fix that. Yeah. Do something about that if you're upset. know I'm saying speaking of Congress I am so curious about the way the congressional twink slash top right the gay sex situation is kind of still feeling like a niche story at this point it's like not really getting a lot of pickup outside of like gay Twitter, gay social media. I'm not seeing it covered. Am I crazy? I can't tell anymore. You know what? That's what's weird about like the way that I'm getting information lately. I can't tell if this is a big story or if this is a gay thing. I really can't. I was with Jared and our friend Steven Sambari on Saturday. They came to the show.

So Saturday morning, we all wake up to the video and... Okay, see, Hans doesn't even know what we're talking about. Really? Wow. This is so interesting. Okay, so basically, I'm going to do a terrible job of summing this up, but there was a video

that leaked from a close friend's story of someone in DC. The person filming it was someone, some like German lobbyist or something. I guess. Like someone who basically had anal sex with a congressional aide of someone from Maryland. I'm not sure his name, but a Democrat from Maryland. They filmed themselves having anal sex in the congressional hearing room. Just railing. And the dick was huge. The top's dick was absolutely huge.

Could you, did you see it? Because I saw it. I did. That's an important, that's an important detail of the story. Absolutely. me, Klobuchar says this twink was taking a huge cock and then posted it on close friends where you can't trust anyone. Are you crazy? You think you can trust gay people? Is nothing sick? Oh my God. Well, the thing is, we thought we could trust gay people

on close friends. No, and Bowen, I will say sometimes there are certain people on Instagram who post things on close friends. And I'm like, are you insane? Right. How can you ever think you can trust gay people? You're close friends.

I guarantee if you're a gay person, you have a list of close friends. It's this. It's a few of your actual close friends, including one girl, which God bless every straight woman on a gay man's close friends. They don't understand everyone you've ever seen that you've ever wanted to fuck and then a couple celebrities maybe just in case. That's what everyone's close friends is.

Gay close friends, yeah. Gay close friends. You think you can trust these gay guys? I don't think so, honey. You can't trust these gay guys. It's rule of culture number eight. You can't trust these gay guys. So in this close friends,

it's the top taking a picture of this twinks hole with this writing. In this very room, Sonia Sotomayor had her confirmation hearing. James Comey testified on Russian interference in the 2016 elections. Aiden got some thick German sausage and a Jäger sauce finish.

Period. So that is what happened i think this is too shocking for mainstream media that's what me and jared were talking about like it's like how do you even even begin because like of course i'm getting tagged on saturday like bow and yang are you prepared to play like the congressional twink oh my god i wanted to be, how do you think we're gonna- Tell this, cover this one. I'm so curious. I honestly am open to pitches.

This is the only time in my career that I've ever been open to SNL sketch pitches. Every other moment of my life, after this week, moratorium period for the rest of my life. I think it should be a meta sketch. You guys in the writer's room literally discussing how exactly you get this across. That's funny. I think that's what it is. should be a meta sketch. You guys in the writer's room literally discussing how exactly you get this

across. That's funny. That's what it is. It's a meta sketch where you and one of the biggest things is they keep looking at you to explain. That's really funny. Before we keep going, I just want to say on behalf of everyone who works at SNL, we should not

listen to your joke pitches because it becomes a huge legal issue if your idea, by some off chances, something that we end up using. Okay, so forget I said that. Just forget I said that. So please rescind that, Matt. I rescind.

That's a really funny idea. I retract my statements. I retract my pitches. But okay, but isn't this so interesting though? I think not a lot of people off the internet, like our parents, I think, are never going to hear about this you know what i'm going to do actually literally right now i'm going to text my mother and see if she knows what this is i promise you she won't i promise you so how do i even say this okay mom do you i'm going to text them both actually because my dad does watch a lot of news so he will tell me i'm saying guys

what do you know about the gay guy having sex i can't call him senate is he set at bottom or set at top the congress twink do you know about the congress twink ask them about ask them that i'm saying do you guys know about the congressional aid? I'm going to I'm going to be proper and just so they can fill it in. Because if I say that, then it's going to be like, guys, what do you know about the congressional aid having sex in the congressional hearing room? Hey, guys, this is Matt from the future. I just wanted to update you on how my parents did eventually respond because it wasn't until after we recorded the episode. My mother did not know. And my father said they hadn't been watching television that day. I said, no, this is days old. And I explained to them what happened. My mother emphasized the text

and said the word, geez. Okay, that's all. Hans is saying, I typed in NY Times Gay Sex Congress and the first hit is 7 links down and it's from Politico like I think there is some SEO witchcraft and wizardry along with the media not to get too tinfoil hat but it's like Senate staffer who filmed public sex in Congress leaves Ben Cardin

yeah Ben Cardin but this is what I'm saying like there's this like concerted thing where I think people are like, this is too crazy. Icky. It's icky. I don't think we should beam this into the TVs of every household in America. I mean, maybe.

I guess, okay, so now I'm kind of flipping around, too. Is it even important that some gay guys were having sex in the senate hearing room like for me it's just like i don't know our government is kind of funding a war where thousands of innocent people are dying and that to me is just like where the the continued energy should be and for me it's just like the fact that these gay guys had sex in the room it's like you

know at least they're not congress people at least it's not like someone doing it in public like Lauren Boebert. You know what I mean? To me, that's a story because she's disrupting the peace and supposed to be a figure of respect. These gay guys boned in the Senate hearing room. I would love it if it could be publicized on the news because I think we should play those gays

in the feature film on HBO. I think they should really discard the George Santos movie. There's a much more interesting and fun. It is very interesting because you want the lead up to that moment. You want to know like how they plan that. It's a heist movie.

That's our sex scene together. Honestly, like if there ever is going to be one, the sex scene that you and I do together is me. I think I play the top, the German top, and you play Congress bottom and I rail you is me. I think I play the top, the German top, and you play Congress bottom, and I rail you in the Senate hearing room. And that is, I think the only sex scene that we should ever do.

And the movie is called Jaeger sauce finish. Yeah. I think that you're absolutely right that this should be the movie instead of the George Santos pick. Yeah. And I think we win Emmys. We tie for Emmys. It's like fellow travelers, but us.

And the sex is more graphic and happens once. It's an absolute railing in the Senate hearing room. And actually, no one even remembers the names Matt Bomer and Jonathan Bailey anymore because of this. Because of this film. Well, I just want to say, maybe this whole thing is not

important because at this point, I think everyone understands that, like, institutionally, like, maybe that means nothing anymore. Like, it doesn't really mean anything to have sex in the halls of Congress because it's like, well, Congress is sort of whatever. Yeah, I mean, George Santos was prancing about in there

and Marjorie Taylor Greene is still there. So, like, yeah, let's have gay sex in it. Go off. I just want to challenge you on the Lauren Boebert thing because I don't think it's shocking that Lauren Boebert was being like frisky and handsy. Have her jugs felt up. Have her jugs felt up.

Say it with your chest. I think anyone having their jugs felt up would be like, we're treating them the same way we would treat anybody having their jugs felt up. It just so happens that she's this congressional figure. But what is sacred is like theater. we're treating them the same way we would treat anybody having their drugs filled up. It just so happens that she's this congressional figure, but yeah, what is sacred is like theater.

And so frozen. No, is, is, is, is Beetlejuice. I wish it was frozen. I wish it was so funny if it was frozen. I mean,

it's perfect. Let it go. And mama's getting her fucking areola twitched. She's saying oh that's a really good little umbrella oh makes my nipple feel so good when you touch it daddy like i think that's during the big song touch my nipples during the big song and i think that it was it's the fact that it was being done at a beautiful show.

That's why people love stuff. Yeah, a beautiful show. I guess, here's the thing. Should we take it as a personal insult as a community that they don't want to report on our love? You know what I mean? That's the way we make love. Sometimes the way that we make love

is we take a huge penis publicly. That's our lovemaking. Like you don't want to hear about it in the news. That sucks. You guys, that's the source of homophobia. Exactly. This is painted in the Senate airing room.

Like, like all of a sudden it was like messy gay sex all over Klobuchar's seat. Well, this is like an aspect of queer theory. I might get some flock for this, but I feel like here we go. We'll get into queer theory. I might get some flack for this, but I feel like here we go. We'll get into queer theory. Sodomy is the thing,

but sex is the reason why like gay men are less accepted in society than lesbian women. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's not. No, I've always felt that. And look,

this is problematic, but I have always felt straight guys being like, oh yeah, lesbians. Haha. Great. It's because like that attraction to women is still seen through the straight male gaze.

Whereas the second you start talking about like gay guys and the way that they fuck. And of course they walk around with a ton of privilege, like white gay men in this society walk around with a ton of privilege. But when it comes to gay sex, that is what kicks it over into like it's homophobic incense for straight men to kill us because they think that's disgusting and it shames them and that's when it gets weird and that's why it would never be reported on in this en masse way is because butt sex is poop is

gross and they don't think of it like all sex is gross which it kind of is it's just appeals to our base instincts they think about it like poop is gross butt sex is gross gay which it kind of is. It's just appeals to our base instincts. They think about it like poop is gross, but sex is gross. Gay men are gross. I don't want to hear about it. So it casts gay men aside. Now I have the instinct to go out and like murder them. That's what I think.

Should I cut out the lesbians thing? I don't know. I think if you can't at least understand what you're saying, then like you're being obtuse. You're being glib. Like you're not saying that like lesbians are more accepted in society like or we have it worse you're saying like there is a thing about gay sex and i think this is true there is a thing about gay sex that is identified with being

disgusting and therefore like it puts us at the bottom of like a certain arena like it puts us at the bottom of respect in that regard like it's butt sex it's gross it's poop yeah yeah people think that people think and that's probably why you don't see like the way you'd see like lauren bobert engaging in sexual activity in the crowd at beetlejuice you do see that like on the major news you're not gonna see grainy footage of this twinks ass in the air getting it in the butt on abc nbc no because it's cbs you're just not cnn is not reporting on that anderson cooper is not saying next up twink gets railed right poop and we're not saying this from a place of at least i don't think we're saying this from replace of internalized homophobia i think it is just like so shocking it's so shocking for a general news consuming public yeah 100 i agree with you yeah yeah it's

just like it's not that i'm like oh gay people shouldn't be seen it's just that like this like the angle the angle and the images out of that situation are like gay Twitter is going insane because we're like, oh, my God. Yeah, it's so crazy. But that's the world. I guess that's the thing is it's just I was thinking about because I think Joel made the comparison to the Lewinsky scandal. He was like, you know, people be fucking in places they shouldn't have been in D.C. for a very long time. This is not like a gay thing. They're not the first.

They're not the last people to fuck in that room. I'm sure. No, certainly not, especially if we keep putting the biggest clowns in America in Congress. You know what I mean? Like, and also not that it's clownery to have sex wherever. Like, at this point, I'm very burn it down about the whole thing or who cares about the whole thing. And that's why I'm like, whenever anyone's like,

how dare Z-Way? It's like the reason why we feel, I think, how dare Z-Way or the reason why we have this animosity towards each other on Twitter over this stupid shit is because we are so politically hopeless right now. Like there's nothing we can do. All we can do is spin our wheels online and say, I'm really personally hurt

that you don't like Tate McRae. There's shit like that. Stan Wars are able to go so hard because it's not like whenever we make noise about anything bigger or a bigger deal, like anything happens. No. So you can scale your outrage down to like, how dare you not like Tate McRae, even though we all know that that is a frivolous thing to care about.

Exactly. It's like, I think that sometimes, and something I've noticed over the past few years, that it feels like everyone's personal taste, like for example, with art, like on a grander scale, rather, it's like if i say i didn't like something or i have something to say about some piece of art or some you know whatever artist television show etc despite the fact that like you know there should be places to like critique art discuss things whatever it all becomes very personal and it's an identity who said this or where I read this. Yes, people associate identity with the things they like.

And that's stand-up and that's like stand culture. And that funnels into online, which gets very ugly, etc. And someone said that that tends to happen during times when there is political lack of agency politically. Like a feeling of hopelessness and helplessness politically, it tends to correlate to very intense discussion and discourse about things that are more artistic in nature or commercial in nature because there's this feeling of, well, we can't actually have actionable change, but I can go online and say this thing about something I like and say this negative thing about something you like.

And I can contribute to discourse in this way. And it tends to be more intense when there's political hopelessness. That's just something I tend to agree with. And I feel like it's happening. Yeah, for sure. I feel like that sounds like a Guy Branum quote. I mean, maybe. Maybe he's the one that said it.

Just assume anything. If you even thought that was an intelligent thing to say, just think it was Guy. It was Guy. It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. We're friends like that. Who needs enemies? You ain't seen nothing yet. Cheers to being Germanic.

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Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba.

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Well, let's see. What else? Speaking of Tate McRae, I did listen to her album. I do think it all sounds the same. I appreciate that she's bringing back the dance break. I love her dance break. I love to see the dance break come back to culture, but I don't know.

Would love to see some of this energy online behind someone like Chapel Roan. That's just what I would say. But I do like Tate McRae. She dances. I like the album. I like Stay Done. She's an album called Stay Done. It's like the whole album itself is like I think a lot of people are surprised

at the sort of overall tone of it, which is not quite as dance poppy as maybe like the lead singles might have suggested that it is more like vibey. It's very vibey. Cursive-y, you know, whatever. Yeah.

Everything has that sound of like taking place underwater a little bit. Like it's that, that like production thing where it's just like, Ooh. Yeah. Ooh. Yeah. Ooh. Yeah, definitely.

I just want to say, LOL at me being like the first person to ever think that Billie Eilish is amazing and iconic. Oh my God. She was unreal. Being in that room. I watched what was I made for both times. Once it addressed and and on air.

Just like watching her sing that song, which will probably win her another Oscar. It's just like rightfully. Oh, there's no doubt. Like rightfully, completely rightfully. But just watching her and she, it was her idea to like have the cast and Maya and Kristen and Kate, like send in footage of them, you of them from when they were kids.

Just so beautiful. Her voice in that room, just to hear her voice live is really sublime and really heavenly. God, she invented this shit.

She invented... I think she innovated on this thing that I think all the girls are doing now. And I feel like mileage varies depending on who tries to replicate it. Yeah. And I'm sure it's not their own. I'm sure, like, the label puts pressure on them

to, like, do a Billie Eilish song. But, like, that just speaks to, like, her influence and her sort of vision as an artist to, like like stick to this thing that like was never a guaranteed success until it was like, she is so, and I finally listened to happier than ever all the way through for the first time in a long time.

Like, I think like when it came out, I was the album. I was just listening to like spots here and there, but like, God, that is a true artwork along with like when we all We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go? Like just her albums are so,

she is like, thank God she is an album artist because that's the thing that like, could have died along with like, so many other things in the music industry. Like album artists are still here to stay. Like, I don't think that is a bygone format. Yeah. Well, first of all,

just to speak on a song from Happier Than Ever, I am an oxytocin stan oh yeah i absolutely love that song happier than ever obviously is like one of the great amazing amazing i just yeah and also like i appreciate more and more her aesthetic of that album like that sort of like just we talked about it at the time but her like sourpuss on the in those glamour looks with that blonde hair and like you know hair. I think that she's fucking incredible. And that performance was amazing. That song is so fucking great.

It is a perfect movie song. And it also makes that movie even better. It takes the Barbie movie to another level. It is an absolute slam dunk for an Oscar, I think. Like, in a time where, like, I guess this is a good year for the songs? Not really, though.

I mean, it really just was that Barbie song that, like, really popped off. And then, again, we talked about that song from Wish, like, kind of not being anything. Well, I don't think so, honey.

It's winning in a walk. I don't think so, honey. Out Alpha the Alpha not making it into the conversation for these damn awards that still don't know what's good for them. They don't think so, honey. Out Alpha the Alpha not making it into the conversation for these damn awards that still don't know what's good for them. They don't know what's good for them. Out Alpha the Alpha, Megan the Stallion,

I mean, come on. That is a show stopper. Yeah. It deserves to be in the conversation, I'll say it. But, you know, those precursors are coming in and we're not seeing many. Have you seen any movies? Have you watched any screeners that have come through? This is finally my week to like really catch up.

So I don't have a dive in me too. Sort of. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Me neither. I, we will get into it at some point people in the new year, but, uh, while it's still this year, what do you say we get into some, I don't think so, honey.

Yes. I have one that I hope people understand. Are you saying you want to go first? No, no, no. I'm just, I'm just prefacing mine with. Are you saying you want to go first? No, no, no. I'm just prefacing mine with that. But do you want to go first? You hope people understand that. Okay, I think I'm going to make this very easy for people to understand.

I think people are going to agree with me. Okay, this is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So, Honey, and his time starts now. I Don't Think So, Honey, the Agatha Show changing its name literally every week. So the Agatha Show, which is the spinoff of WandaVision, was originally going to be called, I think, Agatha. It was at one point Agatha Coven of Chaos. It was Agatha Darkhold Diaries. It was originally something else.

Like, I'm forgetting what it was, but now it's Agatha all along. And literally every time they announce the show, it's agatha all along and literally every time they announce the show it's a different title you guys i don't think so honey just call this agatha colon you like this remember agatha colon katherine han agatha colon from wandavision agatha call like this like alliteration parade that is happening just name it something and move the fuck on i don don't think so, honey. This thing of the show constantly having a different title,

just stop. Or just like stop announcing it. Like when it comes out, it'll come out. Do press for it the week before. Five seconds. Please, God, Disney, get it together for once in your life. You are losing to Universal. And that's one minute.

Ooh, you heard it here first. And you're the authority on this. Well, you know, this is breaking news. Universal has bought over 500 acres of land in Great Britain, and they've trademarked the names Universal Studios Great Britain and Universal Great Britain, because there was a rumor that Universal, once Epic Universe is finished in Orlando,

and yes, this is the place I go for my happy place when I am off on the road. I go to at BioReconstruct and I look at construction videos of the Epic Universe project in Orlando and it is going to be unbelievable. The paint is on the buildings. A lot of everything is like testing.

The rides are testing. I'm telling you, if you're like me and have this like disorder where you are into theme parks construction, I don't know where my tribe is and my community is, but this is what I do. It's engineering. Honey, this is beautiful.

I love it. It's what I've wanted to do since I was a little kid. And I just love watching everything go up in the landscaping and architecture. And as you guys know, I'm a theme park person. So I've been really, really watching this. And Universal is about to eat Disney alive in Orlando. They really are. They really are.

And now they're going to have a huge, probably massive theme park complex in Great Britain in Bedford, which is about 45 minutes outside of London. And that is going to be where they expand next. And it's going to have all original rides. They're not going to carbon copy anything from another park because they want it to be a destination in its own right and they don't want to cannibalize the Orlando market. Amazing. So this, I'm just saying, there's a lot going on

and the theme park wars have only just begun. It's really the only area where these companies can for sure thing make money. So they're going to be going in. I mean, Disney has said 20 billion is going into the theme parks over the next 10 years, which is insane. Like it's about to pop off. But going back to my original point, just name it fucking Agatha. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Agatha, Colin, you like this. Remember, I think Agatha, Colin, Catherine Han is actually the best title for it people are going to be seated it's fine just make it clear make it easy I mean or just go Patti LuPone's in this right it's just I forget

what it was originally first called Agatha Coven of Chaos it was called Agatha Harkness yeah but it was I think it was originally called something it was Coven of Chaos. It was called Agatha Harkness. Yeah. But it was... I think it was originally called something... Coven of Chaos was definitely a thing. And then there was Darkhold Diaries. Now it's Agatha all along. And I think it started out

as something else, which makes it the funniest version, is that they're not even on the third one of this. They're on the fourth. It's like... That's really wild. Shocking. I mean, they're scrambling. They don't know what they're doing. I think, they're scrambling. They don't know what they're doing. I think like the Marvel's not being mama. Slay was like the nail in the coffin.

I'm on the Wikipedia. Okay. Okay. Yes. It was called Agatha house of Harkness. Then it was called Agatha coven of chaos. And then it was called Agatha dark hole diaries. And now it's Agatha all along. So they're just going down the fucking

alphabet picking things and i think it's so funny but it has to stop just telling you like just stop it is embarrassing it looks so embarrassed so humiliating just like thinking about like execs anywhere being like, should we announce another name? Like, no. Can I ask why the separate trademarks for Universal Studios Great Britain and Universal Great Britain? Just to like buy domain. It's like when people buy domain names and...

What I would guess is that Universal Great Britain would be the name of the overall complex and Universal Studios Great Britain would be the name of the park. And why you'd have a different name of the park and of the complex is because if you wanted to add a second park, you then would name it something else. Probably, I mean, I don't know if these trademarks have already been filed, but probably you'd see like, you know, some sort of Universal Great Britain city walk type thing. You'll soon start seeing trademarks for different hotels. That was how everyone knew the Universal Epic Universe project was happening

is because you can pretty much figure out what they're planning to do by two things, name trademarks and land acquisition. So there was a massive land acquisition. In Orlando. Billions of dollars in Orlando. And then also now in Great Britain and it amounts to about 560 acres.

So when you have that and also a trademark file for Great Britain, it pretty much leads to one thing. Well, this is the thing. Like people in the UK are very much like, oh yeah, like we went all the way to Florida because the kids wanted to go to Disney World and Universal. Yep. So they're flying overseas for that stuff.

It's like, because Disneyland Paris is not all the way there. I think it's kind of, it's plateaued. It's very different. Yeah. It's very different from other Disney parks because in Universal Paris,

the culture is just very different there. Yes, yes. For example, you can drink wine in the Magic Kingdom there. Like, they're not really a theme park driven culture.

And if you're going to Paris, I don't know that you're necessarily thinking and Disney World, of course. It's probably not the number one thing you're doing. Whereas Universal Great Britain, I think you're right, doesn't have a lot of competition. And if it does, it's out.

And the thing that Universal has is the Harry Potter IP, which if you go to London, is everywhere. But I also think Brits are secretly a theme park culture. Like Britain is a theme park culture. All of the UK.

Well, yeah, I mean, I think it's kind of a slam dunk. I just think because of the IP they have, because another IP that Universal, I don't know if this is official that they own it, but it's probably a thing is they probably have the Lord of the Rings IP. There's been rumors for a very long time that Universal was going to be the one to break open the Lord of the Rings IP into a full theme park situation, which I think is a slam dunk if it happens. And another thing I heard is that they were finally going to try to do theme park rights for 007 as well as Paddington.

Oh, a Paddington one would be so- They are not universal properties, but those are acquisitions they could make- Yes, yes. To add onto their IP already, which includes stuff that's pretty international like Jurassic Park. Of course. Nintendo now. I mean, they have the right IP. They just have to flesh it out so it doesn't repeat all over the world. Yes, yes, yes.

Of course. Wow, this is very educational. And that's my theme park report. Thank you. This fall on Bravo. It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been

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Let's have a real good time. On Thanksgiving Day 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so

fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian, Elian. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez.

At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story,

as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being

one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer. And the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life.

I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. Are you ready to do I Don't Think So Honey, my darling? Yes, yes. Okay, that's good. And remember, he hopes that you guys understand this one. This is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey

as time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey so honey people gagging standing this whole clear foy i don't do blue thing like i don't understand what's cool about that or what's like aspirational or admirable i feel like whatever reason this person has to not sign an autograph with a blue sharpie is probably a stupid one. Probably one that doesn't make much sense. And if she explained it to you, you'd be like, well, that's weird. If I were to say I don't sign

with a blue marker, that would mean I was a weird person. That I was a very weird person. And if that's who Claire F foy is then that's wonderful but i feel like it's i don't think it's like a cool thing to be like this is a boundary i have no blue i feel like that is and i love five seconds i love any kind of diva behavior i think this is something outside of that i think this is just a weird idiosyncrasy that i will never

understand and that's one minute what i was told because i had the same reaction as you something outside of that. I think this is just a weird idiosyncrasy that I will never understand. And that's one minute. What I was told, because I had the same reaction as you, well, A, let's just say in terms of the reaction, that's just like, I think, gay Twitter being like, oh, this woman did something unusual, stan, stan, stan, stan, stan. And that is how simplistic it is. Not everything deserves that. Right. It's literally just like, oh my gosh, something happened, Stan. Right. That's literally, something happened with a woman mother, you know? Right.

Like that's literally all that is. So that can be reduced to that and it is that simple. What I was told is that the reason she doesn't sign in blue is because she was advised that if you sign in blue, your signature can be copied and put on documents. Oh my God. I take it all back. So that's why she did that. And I actually was like,

oh, that's actually really interesting because then she grabbed the black pen and just signed. Because I thought, what would be a weird enough reason? Is she just that weird? And because any interview I've ever seen with her, any interaction she's had with anyone that I've seen, she perfectly normal and I think it's because she is and she was just told don't sign with blue ink because then they can use your signature to potentially steal from you oh my god I gotta google this yeah I think it might be a thing because as iconic as it I guess

is for her to be throwing her head over her shoulder and saying, I don't do blue, like maybe that can be put over like, you know, someone absolutely bombing in a blue dress on a red carpet and then a meme after being like, I don't do blue. I'm sure you will see that from gay people on Twitter and Instagram for sure.

And I think it could be fun given the application. I legit think she had a reason to do that. Okay, I guess this is a thing and I must rescind that. Let it be on the record. If the publications want to say that I was trashing Claire Foy, that's fine. Wow, we've learned so much even in this episode and this year. And Bowen Yang, I have to say, I think this next year is going to be a good one

for us I'm so excited for everything we got going on girl me too endlessly proud of you

always smiling when my girl is slaying and the star of my life star of my life I love you down I always will

love you down I always will love you down and I'll see you very soon yes we're about to see each other for fun for festive merriment festive merriment

we always end every episode with a song have yourself a merry little Christmas. Let me give you time. Yeah. Yeah. From now on. From now on.

Our troubles will be miles away. Think of thoughts of us twink getting it in the butt in the silent hearing room as we sing. Here we are as in olden days. Happy golden days. Shaved too. Shaved cock. Of your. Your.

I hate the prostate. Faithful friends. Did he say it became? Who are near to us. I think that's what a Jaeger. Have we heard from him? I think that's what a Jaeger I think that's what a Jaeger finish is

right gather near to us once more through the years we all will be together where Klobuchar sits if the fates if the fates allow

hang a shining star upon the highest that jockstrap better be in a museum someday honestly and have

yourself a merry little night. Jaeger monster. What was it? Jaeger cream bomb. Jaeger something bomb. You guys can find that. Merry now.

Bye. Bye. Bye. bye bye hey guys this is Matt and I'm actually emotional because this is my last plug of the year for Have You Heard of Christmas the tour I am having my last few shows I would love for you guys to come I'm at the Castro

Wednesday December 20th in San Francisco Ace Hotel Thursday December 21st in L.A. And on Saturday, December 23rd, I will be at the Town Hall in New York City. And then I will just disappear into a cloud of smoke. I promise you. But anyway, stream the album. Come see us on tour. And if you have already, I love you so much. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999,

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