Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "You GLOW Girl!" (w/ Sunita Mani)

Episode Date: July 26, 2017

The time to ACT...is NOW! Bowen and Matt get INTO the CRAFT with Glow's Sunita Mani. But don't think for one second that that is all honey - cause we're talking Pandora, the "weirdos" of Emerson, and fast-casual Southern Chinese places. Do not miss it! Subscribe on Apple Podcasts and give us 5 STARS bitch.LAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasCONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASThttp://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh my god, our Hot Producer Joe spilled some water on his lap earlier. It was hilarious. It was so funny. We are not letting him get away with that. No. It was dripping everywhere. Oh my god. So can I tell you, I'm nervous

about what I might say because now you know after listening to last week's episode, I broke the story of the death of Hugh Hefner. And guess what? He's alive. It was not true. It was patently false. And we're so sorry that even we are not immune to fake news. I mean, I am, but Matt is not.

Right. No, I'm actually, I'm of course, as the listeners know, the worst of the two of us. So that is not, that's up for debate. worst of the two of us. So that is not. That's up for debate. Rule number 106 of culture. Matt. Bowen's better. Bowen's better.

No, I can't say that. Well, OK. You guys. Tell us in the comments who's better. All right. Tell us in the comments. Tweet at us who's better. But you know who's better than both of us?

I agree. Our guest. Our guest. Let's go through the credits. Fucking credits down. Down. Boots. Boots. Our guest. Our guest. Let's go through the credits. Fucking credits down. Down. Boots. You've seen her on Mr. Robot.

You've seen her on Search Party, and you're currently seeing her right now in the hit Netflix show, Glow. Well, I assume it's a hit. You know, Netflix famously, they don't release the numbers. They don't release the numbers. They keep it very close to the vest, honey, indeed. But the buzz is everywhere. Deafening. Deafening buzz. The din release the numbers. They keep it very close to the vest, honey, indeed. But the buzz is everywhere. Deafening buzz.

The din of the buzz. Breakout stars and stars that used to be stars now seeing them in a new light, defining them. Sure. I think amazing. And I'm gagging over a lot of the stars. And we'll discuss it. We'll discuss it. And she's part of the legendary group Cocoon Central Dance Team.

She's gagged. she's part of the legendary group Cocoon Central Dance Team and they have an amazing film called Snowy Bang Bongs that is coming very soon it played at BAM for a couple nights I'll bing my bong to that guys please welcome Sunita Mani come through y'all I've peaked

no way I'll tell you when we peaked was when we did the lottery for I Don't Think So Honey live and then you won and we were so gagged when it was you our fate I remember you screaming

and it's on the record but Sunita goes oh shit she shoots up we're like it's Sunita goes, oh shit. She shoots up. We're like, it's Sunita. And then she does her, I don't think so honey about white people appropriating yoga. Yeah. So funny. Taking yoga from my people.

Yes. I was really, I can't believe I had one. Yeah. Oh my God. Inspired by your sick show. I mean, it was an incredible show. So amped. The crowd was like freaking out. It was fun. It was fun. So fun that amped. The crowd was like freaking out.

It was fun. So fun that it merits a sequel that you'll be on. And I cannot wait. Also, I like, I told this to Bowen on our Disney trip, but I just like,

I was so excited and I just rushed the stage and I was like, okay. I didn't like give enough time for people to realize that I donated to charity. Yes.

That is the takeaway. That's how I won. Wow. Raffle tickets. Yes. It was a raffle for Trans Lifeline, wonderful organization. I donated. I donated, and that is the most important part of all of this.

Ten raffle tickets. That was $10. That's great. I was going to say, that's a lot of money. That is a lot of money. That's in the double digits. That's a drink and a half. Sacrificed.

There was no question. Oh, my God. So you had 10 tickets floating around in there. Yeah. That's how you win the lottery. That's probably why. Rule number 41 of culture. You've got to put a lot of tickets in to win the raffle.

That's true. That's a true rule. Raffle culture. Raffle culture. Raffle culture. Sunita, how are you doing? I'm good. I am so tan. Yeah.

Just for the listeners at home to visualize. Right. Get that. Get that. And another important visual part of Sunita's presentation today is this bow in her hair. It is timeless. It's for you both.

No. Now, I accept it and I receive it, but I'm going to say it's mostly for you. And when you came in, you commented on my mustache. Yes. And then I commented on the bow, and then we said, you know what? It's for now.

And I said, you know what? Rule number, what is it? 74? 74. Yeah. Rule number 74 of culture. Sometimes things are for now. They're just for now.

They're just for now. You know what it feels like? Even though we're real people. Yes. And they're accessories to our lives. It's like when you have those things in a photo booth. Yes. You have the sunglasses.

The props. Yeah. We're like making the props real. 100%. And they're for the photo booth of the sunglasses. The props. We're like making the props real. A hundred percent. And they're for the photo booth of the world. Yeah. To see. Yes.

You know, you're all born naked and the rest is drag. One hundred percent. And sometimes people live their life without a bow. And then you put the bow right on. Also, it's humid out there, but your hair looks unreal. What's going on? It loves the moisture. It's a sponge. It's 100% sponge, but your hair looks unreal. What's going on? It loves the moisture. It's a sponge.

It's 100% sponge. But you wear it. Texture. You wear it. It looks so good. I'm about to get it cut. I tried to get it cut before this podcast. I wanted to look so good.

You look snatched. I was like, I gotta get my bangs back. And also back. Yes, you had bangs. Yeah, they grow so fast. Are you just pushing them back, or have they just always disappeared? This conveniently placed bug. No. Oh, my God. It Yeah, they grow so fast. Are you just pushing them back or have they just always disappeared? This conveniently placed bow. No, oh my God.

It's holding back my long bang. Okay, okay. So it's function. Little function. Little function. You're going to get it cut. Yeah, I'm going with the shag look that I had earlier in the year. So you're getting a lot of it cut off.

Yeah, lots of layers. It's so heavy. I get that. I love the length. Oh, yes. I think you's so heavy. I get that. I love the length. Oh, shit. I think you will look timeless. I'll send you a lock. Send it to me. Locks for love. Because we're a charity girl.

I love charity. I would just like that to be clear. Yes, yes. Of course, let's state that for the record. Everyone here loves charity, okay? I love charity. Joe is rolling his eyes currently at HPJ. Hot producer Joe, don't roll your eyes Everyone here loves charity, okay? I love charity. Joe is rolling his eyes currently. Joe, it's PJ.

Not producer Joe. No. Don't roll your eyes at charity. It's very important for us to talk about. Hang on to that one bottle of two hands, you motherfucker. How about that? Oh, wow. I just stepped in a goddamn puddle. Sunita, I just want to really quickly recap Sunita and my trip to Disney World in June.

Wow, okay. Can this be quick? In front of me, even. Oh, wow. This will be very quick. So Matt was... You were very much a part of it, though. You were so present.

You were present. Absolutely present. I was fucking texting them too much. Yeah. Sunita and I, along with Michael Hartney and Eric Gerson, got to experience the newly opened section of Animal Kingdom at Disney World, Pandora, the World of Tomorrow. World of Pandora. World of Pandora.

I'm so sorry. The World of Tomorrow. Do I deserve to go? Did I deserve to go? It was so fun. We got to do Avatar Rite of Passage. Oh, wow. And we got to do the river ride, which was underwhelming.

It was. But what we gagged for, what I think is unequivocally the best ride Everest Expedition Everest That was so fun That was the only one we rode twice But it was the right one It was the right one

I'm just the whole thing We got there at what Like 7 for an 8am opening Like for the doors to open Wow you were there early the whole thing was just like I can't believe we're doing this it was kind of weird it was like a

sojourn thing where all these people were there for the same reason and it felt weird and it was to go to see Pandora it was bizarre it was to be amongst the clouds and it was like you wanted to appreciate the detail and the massive like floating mountain. Just all this precious work.

But you were just like running to the line. You're like, get out of my way. Bridge. Oh, this bridge is slowing me down. I know. Fucking eight-year-olds who are like, I'm hungry. It's like, get the fuck out of my way. It's so funny because when you go to Disney World and you're like us,

we were literally so annoyed with all the children. And it's like, don't ever forget, it's for them. It's for them. You've had this moment several times in your life, but you're just pissed at the kids being loud in the Magic Kingdom. Yes. That's my take on it. I'm like, get the kids out of here.

But then at a certain point, you tune them out. Anyway, I was just very glad to have shared that. You were my guide. Yeah. Yeah. It was insane. The one moment that we were separated was when you had to wait in line for Rite of Passage. Yeah.

But it was Flight of Passage. I'm sorry. Right. Rite of Passage. I'm sorry. I just was gagged that that was like the turn of phrase. The pun. Right of passage, flight of passage.

But you need to wait in line for like three hours. No, seriously? I was fending off like an older Argentinian man just like pretending to like point at things ahead of me and be like, huh, I wonder what that is. And get in front of me. No way. And I was onto him. Good. I had what that is and get in front of me and I was onto him I had to wait for an

hour in this line and he kept being like huh what's that and saying like interesting as if he was fooling me and everyone and he just kept bumping my shoulder which caused me to be

really annoying to the people in front of me. Yeah. Because you were on their ass. You're like, I'm holding my spot at all costs. It was embarrassing. I couldn't believe his behavior. No. And honestly, that is so anxiety-inducing

that it's contagious. Because then you become that crazy person that when someone stops in the line to look at something and there's like a space between like where they should be moving, you're like, you got to move. Move. Go. We have to keep it on.

It's airport behavior. It is. You know what? Okay. Very much so. So we as New Yorkers. Yeah. Flight of passage.

Hello. Delta. It all goes back to New York. Delta. To Delta. To Delta. Ann Coulter was on the line like, this is an inconvenience. Ann Coulter took pictures of everybody. No, really quickly, I just want to say, we as New Yorkers, when we go to Disney World,

I think we have a good sense of how to navigate crowds and weave through people. But imagine, so this is Shanghai. Let me paint you a picture for Shanghaianghai disney when i went in november imagine um so china is basically a nation of new yorkers just no one just like not caring about crowds tunnel visioning through the day and at disney world the tricks you would not believe um a lot this is what we saw a lot my sister and i um two people saying hi sorry excuse me pushing through us in the line saying just sardines and being like hi sorry um we have we have relatives waiting ahead of us please let us through lies but it would happen lies happen happen happen all the time

and then and then we we caught on to it and then we were like wow we've been we've been fooled bamboozled you didn't do it yourself. No, because we have principles. We have class. You don't lose that in New York, you know? Your principles. Absolutely not. You drop a bugle on the train platform, you pick it up and you eat it.

Do you eat a lot of bugles on the train platform? No, it was just like the last snack that I was talking about. i haven't had bugles in so long i love bugles describe a bugle it's a gorgeous cone of corn it's a corn yeah it's a corn cone it's a gorgeous corn it's like it was like a toy because you could put them on your fingers them on your fingertips and they were like nails yum and that that was maybe my first queer experience with food was pretending to be a queen

in my bugles nails and being like yes. Fishy. Would you say that bugles they present ultimately a queer narrative? Bugles ultimately tell a queer narrative. Yes. Fingers. Fingers. Horrible texture.

And a little umami flavor. A little umami. Perfect. That's it. Okay. Oh, my God. So, Sunita, we're going to ask you what we ask all of our guests, which is, what was the culture that made you think culture was for me?

So, this could be growing up, like the neighborhoods you grew up in or things that were passed down from your family. Piece of media that really turned you around, you know, really snapped you into culture and said, okay, I am a cultural being after all. Yes. This is so, it's a good question. It's on the spot.

We're putting you on the spot. I feel like as a multicultural person, such a fragmented identity. Absolutely. I want to give you like a Pinterest board visual. I'm just going to like say list some things. Please. Come on.

I love an amalgamation. Like that movie, I Love Trouble. Oh my God. With Julia Roberts? Yes. Oh my God. With Julia Roberts? Yes. Oh, my God. I, like, thought I could be a reporter. I, like, my idea of culture was, like, journalism.

Mm. Via that movie. Oh, my God. And, like, I wanted to be a magazine writer or, like, an actual writer for, like, the newspaper. But who gets to run around and get in trouble. Yes. Yeah. actual writer for like the newspaper but I do like but who gets to run around and get in trouble yes

and like it's really catty and ugh that's her and Nick Nolte yes yes and did you know that they hated each other like they actually

hated each other yeah oh my god do we know why well apparently they just didn't mix as actors and apparently

all the shots where they're talking to each other almost entirely is stand-ins. To a stand-in? Yeah. Wow. We've got ourselves like an RG Punjabi. Julianne Margulies.

Margulies. Situation. Yes. Wow. That is so rough. I hope that doesn't like change the movie for you. I love it even more. Yeah.

It's like she's even more independent. She did. What craft? She just got her shots just acting next to a stand-in. Oh, my God. Rule number, I think, nine of culture. Get your shots. I'm sorry.

As an actress, get your shots. Get it done. I can't get the vernacular right right now. Lay off. Shots? Pretty good. Coverage? You know what? Who knows what the right word is at any given time not me someone's gotta know but no one does can't hear him he's too soft it's too soft i love this

okay so that's the first piece of the of the of the puzzle is i love trouble with nick nolte and Melty and Julia Robbs. I loved this one Chipmunks movie, The Chipmunks Adventure, with the hot air balloon rides. Okay, of course. That was my way out. That was your ticket. That was your hot air balloon. Small town in Dixon, Tennessee.

I was like, I'm going to see the world through this movie. Yes. Like a musical chipmunk in a hot air balloon, like smuggling diamonds. It was so dangerous. I didn't know you were from Tennessee. Yeah. Yeah.

Come on. Sunita's a Southern girl. Just from the South. Just from the South. Those are the cultures I'm talking about. Yes. Southern baptism and South Indian. But that is an intersection, honey. Yeah.

And then Sunita and I have had many conversations in the backs of cars in Orlando. Moving vehicles. In waiting rooms. In a lot of places. We audition. We're working a lot. We're working. No.

I mean, but whenever Sunita's in a room, you're like, oh, okay. It's legit. What? Here we go. Yeah, the product's for real. The product's for real. It's going to go. It's a go.

It's a go. It's going to go. You guys. It's going to go. It's going to go. It's going to go. Like, when you're in the room and you see Sunita walk in, you're like, this is going to go.

This pilot's going to go. This pilot's going to go. Yeah. Yeah. What's like, is gonna go this this this pilot's gonna go yeah yeah um what's like what's is there like a southern specific thing i mean that's such a broad question though that's for you that's like oh like lightning bulb like cool this is like what is what i'm gonna connect to growing up in the south probably passive aggressiveness or like really an indirect quality

that's like so delusional like you you think you're saying what you mean because it's so ingrained

to like avoid confrontation right that you're like you're you are like literally

singing a song with your voice to just like get out of a situation. You're like, okay, well, you know, and then we'll see about that. And you can't confront anything is how I feel. That's paired with my family's miscommunication. Wow.

No wonder I'm a dancer. Yes. You expressed physically. Yes. My expressed physically. Yes. My nonverbal skills are high. And consequently, my verbal ones are low. Truly.

I mean, oh, that's, I feel like, do Southern people, like, usually, like, put in, like, just label that as what that is? It's like to avoid confrontation we'll just like not be not be completely genuine with our words i feel like that's i feel like you really you really nailed something there it's like yeah there's like an etiquette or something that's still a little old-fashioned or it's kind of like sweet in some ways except that it's often to hide like awful things yeah like racism right yeah or or yeah but man i guess i guess it's you from a small town you're like seeing the same people all the time you just like want to be in good graces and totally maybe there is something about like church where you have to like you're under a set of like principles and you don't want to i don't know be be an outset a pagan

a pagan was church was church like part of your life in tennessee i would pretend i would tell people i went to church just to like avoid talking about hinduism see oh my god people I went to church just to avoid talking about Hinduism. See? Oh, my God. Because I went to temple, but I wouldn't tell anyone I went to temple. Yeah, right. I go to church on Sundays. Where?

And I would maybe literally run away. Across town. Yeah. Oh, well, you know, it's a church. And whoo. Sing song. And then we're like, I've got a great voice. I would distract them with my

triple threat talent yeah yeah yeah of course what you would do in that situation is break into a split yes and they were like

oh my god send the girl to New York get her out of Tennessee ship her off in a hot air balloon in a hot air balloon I thought there is something where i have so many conversations maybe this is just more common than i think it is but like

i've had so many conversations with people where it's like oh yeah like religion was just a social survival thing where it was like i only ever said i i only ever went to my youth group because the because people i wanted to hang out with my youth group because the because people i wanted to hang out with went to their own youth groups and i wanted to be like yeah well at my youth group we learned this and read this and that and like what a shitty thing for me to like have put myself through right and like i don't know if but that's yeah i mean that's it's different but also But also, I want to say this. I feel like talent is owned. I feel like religions take ownership of talent, and it's not theirs. And we need to take the concept of talent back from religions.

Am I making any sense? No. I would love to hear a specific. Not to me. And I need an elaboration here. So where I grew up was I grew up in Denver Colorado it's Mormon adjacent place a lot of Mormons at my high school

and all the musical theater leads would coincidentally be Mormon because the parents who would like pay and fund the drama club were these super religious Mormon people and like they would host all the cast parties and all the events.

And for me growing up, it was like, well, you can only be talented if you're religious. I hear you. It's like that, where did you start singing? Church. That kind of thing. There you go. That kind of thing.

It's never like, there's never a pagan talent. I want a pagan talent. Yes. An atheistic talent. You know, writing. Writing. Sitting alone in the room. Uninspired.

See? Thought I was going to be a writer. I thought I had talent as a writer, writing. Writing. Sitting alone in the room. Uninspired. Yes. See? Thought I was going to be a writer. I thought I had talent as a writer. Journalism again. Because of that. Like, it was like, well, I can't express myself to anyone else. I'll just stay in my room and write a story about a wizard. And of course, you wrote Harry Potter and sat

on the shelf and then, of course, a woman by the name of Jo Rowling wrote that she stole my future she really did she really did so she did

now when when you you got out of there you hitched the ride on the hot air balloon and got out of there did you come right to New York no I went to

Emerson College in Boston okay Boston cultural I went to college yeah oh come on yeah we went to college too you don Boston. Okay, Boston cultural. I went to college. Yeah, oh, come on, yeah. We went to college, too. You don't need it, but it was great.

Now, Emerson, this is funny, because I applied to Emerson as well, and you know what everyone was telling me, which I thought was so strange? Everyone was like, you know, Emerson, a lot of weirdos. Yes. A lot of weirdos go here.

They're very artistic. You know, it's very artistic. And that was, like, I guess, like, the suburban mentality is like, oh, you know, the art school with the freaks. But, you know, like, and even when you got there, there was this thing of, like, hi. Yeah. We're the weirdos. We're the weirdos of Boston, right?

Like, outcasts. But that was what I remember about Emerson, was they were very, like, and that was a selling point, and also Jay Leno went here. Yes. It's such a weird mainstream place with a bunch of, like, weirdos

who are interested in, like, counterculture, perhaps, but they're just sold by the fact that it's like, well, if I can't make my artistic statement, I'll at least intern on the Daily Show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a, maybe like a, it's a very privileged place, too, where you can just like, I have ideas, and you don't have to worry about what that means, like the consequences of that. Wow. But it was like the height of the

postal service when i got there like it was it was like i know exactly it was just like hipster culture meeting hipsters and jews and i was like where am i yeah yeah what oh my god oh my god that's so funny i like didn't know any Jewish people at all. And it was like, oh, cool. I think we're all the same. I think it's like we're all the same student, which is kind of like you were an outsider or something. And then I did find my best, closest friends,

like my soulmates from college. But I still, Talia and Eleanor are a lot of my friends here. So you guys all went to Emerson? Yeah. We started out at Emerson. That's great. Is Cocoon an Emersonian creation? Not really.

It's like a New York-based thing after we kind of went out and then came back together. Went out in the world and came back together. Tali and I graduated from Emerson, but Eleanor transferred to Hunter College, so she was like in the city. Yeah, finishing her degree. And she said, you have to come to New York. I was like, I'll do anything for you.

I was like, that was it. I was like, I just want to get there. And then you straight up moved from Emerson to New York, or from Boston to New York. I went home for like a month or something something like that I went home you took the month

you took the month I took the month and really like considered my options you have to take the month and then you started the hot air balloon yeah

and you got on the hot air balloon which of course it crashed yes got stuck in a tree yeah got stuck in a tree

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Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so can you talk about the beginnings of Cocoon Central Dance Team? Because you guys, like Bo was saying,

iconic and legendary. Wow. What a force. What a force. Dance comedy. It's my true passion. Yes. It's kind of crazy how organic it all happened.

Out of sadness, if you can believe it. No, yeah. Can't believe it. Like all good art. Like all good art. We were scraping the bottom of the barrel for just like, I can't say that entirely for Eleanor because she was in school and was working on a visual art degree. She had the structure and was happy in class. But myself and another Cocoon member who's not in Cocoon today, unfortunately.

Oh, wow. Katie. She moved away. She left New York. Uh-huh. She had to go. She had to go. She had to get on the hot air balloon.

Yes. And go to her own destination. She is a fisherwoman now. Oh, that's beautiful. She's a mermaid in Alaska. Thank alaska thank god what a dream yeah it's just another dream and she was like i gotta do it that's my yeah that's the dream cold there though cold there cold people say that rainy um but yeah we were like living in this apart like a two bedroom in Sunset Park. But like three of us just kind of like I had a room that didn't have a door. It was like the side door is like the side room to the bathroom.

It was just like a little cubby. And then they had they had bedrooms with doors with doors. And then we just had like the open kitchen living room thing. And then like one exposed brick wall. And we were like, oh. Thank God. That wall is gorgeous. What is it about an exposed brick wall that like is a real selling point?

It's an accent. And we were like, that could be the background of our stage. Like it was like this. Oh, wow. It was just like a hardwood floor, like a rectangle and then like this brick wall and Eleanor and I saw the place together

and we were like, honestly, we could use that. It was like, it became, we were just so like talent show minded. Yeah.

And that's basically how Cocoon started. We would like host open mics in this apartment because we couldn't afford furniture and like didn't try. Like even if Afford furniture And like didn't try like even If we could we like didn't try

Yeah we just left it open And but for functional Things for functional purposes it like worked Out better to just have it like We could have more people over And and we love we do Love to dance and it is It makes you feel good when you're sad.

So we would like just like get high and dance. Yeah. And like there was all, it was, it felt like hours, you know? That's amazing. And it was sometimes romantic and sometimes like, fuck. Oh yeah. What, you know, that year of like. You're like, oh wait, hold on.

We have no furniture. Yeah. And like, wait, I only have a furniture yeah and like wait i'm i only have a job two days a week like i i don't know what to do and it at at an open mic we were like hosting these it had been like the second open mic or something and it was eleanor's birthday and we decided we would like make a welcome dance and that's like the origins of Cocoon, to like just dance for fun because we love ceremony. Yeah. To get together and express.

Yeah, pretty much. It was Kate Bush's Hounds of Love. And we were like, let's just do this right. Oh my God. And that was like the start of the party. And then it was it was our friends that like we like to take

talent shows seriously I mean it's just like it's an excuse to like perform for each other and like get drunk and dance but we like would tape a mic to a broom handle

like a little boom mic and then just like hold it for each other because there's no mic stand but we were like well you need the mic but you gotta hold it yeah exactly because one day there will be a mic yes yes so were you the kind of kid that would do dance contests oh my god and we're like because we used to do dance contests and we would score each other oh i used to well i used to i do i do

remember one dance contest i was the kind of person who like choreographed songs to like jingles like I love that Dairy Queen song and I was like that was my first piece of choreography to the Dairy Queen commercial

love it but the only dance contest I've won was doing the Macarena at like a hospital

Halloween party and you did the Macarena the best I did the Macarena the best I I did the Macarena the best. I think I was Cher. What was, I mean, do you remember?

I like that. Do you remember what the, what your skill was? What set you apart? Was it just the sharpness, the cleanness of the moves? I think I shocked everyone by being like paper thin, pencil thin, hair out to like huge hair.

Like pageant, like imagine tiny pageant girl, but like brown and her hairlines connected to her eyebrows. I like had a mustache. I was so tiny. I was just like too tiny for having a lot of energy. And my eyes were like half of my... I think I just purely shocked people. You were a meme before memes. Yes.

If someone recorded that, you would have been on the internet. A superstar. Everywhere. I do believe the news channel was there. Oh! The local news. I witnessed. But I don't know

where that footage is today. I'll get my agent on it. Someone's gonna get that out. Get someone on that. We need to track

that down and either burn it or make sure everyone sees it. Oh my god. Okay, so basically from that very scrappy beginning

for Cocoon Central and now you're, tell us about the film because I just want, I'm so sad that I missed out on seeing it. But I can't wait Cocoon Central. And now you're, tell us about the film. Because I just want, I'm so sad that I missed out on seeing it. But I can't wait to see it when it's just available for everybody very soon. There's one more screening. One more screening? When is the screening?

It's part of the Brooklyn Comedy Festival. Great. Taylor Moore hosts. It's August. We love Taylor Moore. Yes. Yes, I do love Taylor Moore. He's the best.

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I say it you know what my favorite quality about Taylor is he has his Spotify discovery discovery weekly Spotify

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Spotify Discover Weekly playlist oh yeah let me tell you what the date when it's playing yes please at that festival on August 22nd

at Nighthawk lovely oh Nighthawk Nighthawk famously you can get food there and watch a film famously you can get food there and watch a film

famous Nighthawk theater but not the only game in town now with the Alamo have you town now with Alamo. Have you been to Alamo Drafthouse? Oh yeah. Let me tell ya. Oh, are you about to like rip it?

No, I like it. We love it. Oh, I like it, the food though. Not so good? Not so good. Wow, on the record. You order some buffalo wings and it's- Okay, that's it, I'm a vegetarian.

That's what it is. You got like a grilled cheese and a flatbread or something. Sure. I remember we saw Fantastic Beasts and where to find them. And I had my weed butter and I was dipping my fries in the weed butter. And let me tell you something.

I don't know if I was super stoned, but did you guys see it or was that movie a gay art house film? missed it a gay art house film it was a gay art house film and JK Rowling had a lot of fun with it and every time Colin Farrell would

like put his lips on Ezra Klein's face I would be like I have to see it now I'm gonna suck on this wing is his name Ezra Klein Ezra Miller Ezra Miller

I'm sorry Ezra Klein writes for Vox and was on MSNBC the other Ezra the other Ezra okay August 22nd. Yes. At Nighthawk

as part of the Brooklyn Comedy Festival. Okay, I'm there. Are there still tickets left? I'm sure. I don't even think. Forgive me, Taylor. I'm not even sure

if it's announced yet. Sure. You're hearing it before anyone. Wow. We love that. We have a breaking story. We have the scoop here. We love a little bit of a scoop. A little bit of a scoop. Okay, so tell us about the film. Not fake news. We love that. We have a breaking story. We have the scoop here.

We love a little bit of a scoop. A little bit of a scoop. Okay, so tell us about the film. Not fake news. What is the movie? Come on, tell us. Yes, it's called Snowy Bing Bongs. And it's a film adaptation of this live performance that we did. Yes. Like in 2015.

Featuring these creatures called Bing Bongs that are so dumb and beautiful. Oh, I love that. That's my favorite thing a thing can be. Dumb and beautiful. Yes. They're just so much fun. They're like little space aliens.

They just kind of exist in their, you know, in their tundra, their Arctic tundra. I think that's the best word. It's, oh. Tundra. Yeah're arctic tundra. I think that's the best word. Tundra. Yeah. It's a good one. It's got weight. Yeah. It means something.

It's so visual. It's an exotic word. Truly. Absolutely. I don't know. I stopped everything to say that I liked the word tundra. Continue. No worries.

It's hard to explain because it's basically a series of dance pieces based around the snowy bing bongs, but it goes a lot of places. And it's kind of held together by you are put into space and these planets are revolving around each other. So you see the snowy bing bongs their world, and then we move to different planets and see different dance pieces. Holy shit. I already love it. I'm bringing my weed butter to that. Dip, dip, dip.

It is a trippy movie. It's very stony without being like, we just weren't stoned. We made it. It was just like we had a deadline and we had to make something. And it was like we wanted to tell this epic story. And the way we told it in the live show was through tableaus,

just like 30-second dramatic still things. And we just cut to them throughout the show. And then in between those tableaus we had other silly dances dances and monologues and videos that's the coolest the format is really patched but it's deliberate on film it's like more of a connected story i guess loose story but yeah it's like very grand that's awesome the scenes are really really beautiful and yeah how long have you guys been performing in new york and like how long have you guys been a thing it's so long since 2009 yeah wow and that was like one variety show back in 2009 called the moon that we were like the house dancers for right and we'd like perform every other week a new piece that was like super choreographed.

That's kind of where like dance team came from. Yeah. And our name was like, we're like the drill team. Nice. We will be there at every show. Was this Matt Townsend's show? Yeah. Yeah.

Matt Townsend and Bob Wallace. And Bob Wallace. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That's like, that's like, I'm not, and I'm not saying this, I'm not saying this to date it, but that's like a great legendary show. Yes, because I'm very young. Very young. But I'm saying, what? Say what you were going to say. I didn't mean to cut you off. No, I was just saying. I'd be so happy to hear that.

No. Oh, yeah. It's just a great legendary show. That's awesome. And Nat's great and Bob's great. Yeah. And it had this like Muppet show spirit that we love. Oh, I love that.

Yeah. And we're so, we could really indulge in some like vaudevillian stuff. There you go. It's like very sincere. You don't get that anymore. Of performance. You really don't. No, I'm sorry.

Where is it? Where is it? I don't see sincerity. Not on stage. No. Not out of these comedians. Everyone's just filtering through stuff. I don't know what I'm saying.

Get sincere. Get sincere. Get sincere. Sunita. Wait, did this, so you guys actually performed for a long time at the pit? We did. We had a run at the pit

with Snowy Bing Bongs. It's been like a whole run of like variety shows forever. Like we've been, we've been in every shitty bathroom. That was kind of like Pop Roulette in the beginning, too. Yeah.

We were at the pit for quite a long time, and I felt like, yeah, we would get booked on these little shows that were like, oh, what's the space? Oh, it's a rug. Right. And that you have production value or a sense of production value. Right. It just doesn't fit. It doesn't work.

You're in a literal basement, and there's like, sorry, the lights don't work. And you're like, what? The lights don't work? Yeah, lights don't work. And unfortunately, there's four chairs. Did you bring anybody? We got booked one time. Love this space, but it wasn't for us.

Pete's Candy Store. Oh, yeah. Great space. Oh, my God. Such a good space. But Pop Roulette, there was eight of us standing at Pete's Candy Store doing these pop songs, literally screaming at the audience. And to this like railroad style

set up. On like a postcard sized stage. It's a literal four by six. Exactly. Four inches by six inches. Gorgeous stage but yeah like it just was so incongruous. It is a very sweet space. Very sweet. Yeah. I think half of us were like sitting and like Oh my god and it was really one

of those moments where I was like, wow, I, I hate myself. No, I mean, no, but yeah,

it's like kind of, it went from like, God, we're in it, we're doing it. We love it. And then you're like, sometimes,

you know what? It's good. We got out there. And then it went into like, I'm how old and I'm doing what for who these men it was just like got so

men in suits dancing for men in suits I don't know how sentimental I should feel or even like how much I should romanticize that cause it's like was it did I need to do it maybe sure yeah like maybe it did enrich something in me. No regrets.

No regrets. I don't know how you feel about it, Sunita. I had nothing else going for me. Right, there you go. Like, I was truly proud of it, even though it was, like, some basement. Yeah, yeah. But we were, like, making costumes.

And we were, like, rehearsing. Like, it was the day of the show feeling. Yes, yeah and i i kind of needed it because i didn't have i wasn't really i didn't really get into acting until like a couple years ago yeah like really yeah i like really shouldn't be on television i i disagree in fact like you go you know okay so here's the thing and this was i think i think before we started recording i was i like told sunita i was like i'm gonna ask you a question and you prompted her and you just have to accept this because it might seem like it's too much but you just have to accept it and you just and i said you deserve it but i just think that you are

you are just very very very captivating to watch and watch. And you were just very good at what you do on camera. Because I was even just watching Search Party the other week, and I was watching your episode, or the one where you were here in a couple, but you were- No, it's mine. It's yours, it's yours. She wrote it, directed it. She wrote it, directed it.

Choreographed. DP'd, absolutely. She did like Go Back to the Video Village. Did craft services. Did craft services, yeah. It was all grilled cheese. Grilled cheese. She had to go back to the video village do craft services it was all grilled cheese grilled cheese she had to go back

to the video village after every take and be like okay we're good it was worth it but even that scene I was like oh my god

Sunita's nailing this you guys I mean Bowen Matt disagrees but even on she's even on Robot

even on Glow I mean like I'm just like god she's just so so compelling to watch and receiving and this so much and my question sounds so shitty now that i'm thinking about it but it's like oh i can't wait what is what are you going through what are you thinking because i feel like i'll every now and once in a blue moon when i'm on a fucking set i'll be like

what the fuck am i doing? I'm terrible at this. What's going on? And like, I just. Great question. Do you pick that? Like, is that something you've acquired or is it like. Yes. Yeah.

It's like a confidence or just like you have to learn to be OK with no feedback or like your taste. It's like the way you read because it is like this moment in like a 20 minute episode like you don't really have the foresight of how it's going to fit in so you just have to like be okay with what you're doing and trust they'll tell you if you're not on the

right tone or pitch it's kind of it's really hard actually in these situations because especially with I mean all of these situations. I get like two takes or three takes. Sure. Because it's like super ancillary.

And that's like I'm so down to be a part of it. Totally. And I love that I get to. And it's just part of the process. Yeah. And learning, like I don't know if I could, it's good to, like, learn through these steps for the bigger thing. But it's so, it is really nerve wracking to feel like, can I say the words? How do I just be a normal person?

Just, like, be a normal person. Is that enough? Especially coming from live performance. Yes. Like, I think the majority of us because I mean I wouldn't know that you didn't have acting training I wouldn't know that because you are so fantastic so but I know that sometimes myself you know when it when acting opportunities come up and I think you've just we've

discussed this as well bow and you can feel like shit I actually don't really know how to do this and then I think back to like, shit, I actually don't really know how to do this. And then I think back to like acting school or I wasn't even in acting school, but like those actors that went through that for many years and you're on set with a lot of those people and you're like, oh, I have to fake that. I actually know what's going on. And all of a sudden you're, you, you, yeah, you're in that position and you're like, just be a normal human, be a normal human. But like there is, you're without that validation that you're like, just be a normal human. Be a normal human.

But you're without that validation that you get from live performance, which is so valuable and teaches us how to do what we do. And that it's like you do the same thing over and over with multiple takes or you're just off camera for your lines. You're getting this repetition that's so surreal. Unnatural that what was I gonna say that you oh and learning how yeah like how you read right on camera it's like I look and sound so different than what is going on in my head actually so it's like for some people they don't i don't really like to watch myself too much but sometimes i really need to because i'm like oh that's an angry face oh i didn't think i was being oh i thought i was being soulful or you know it's like you kind of need to adjust your awareness of yourself yes and that's super hard because i still don't know if I'm, I don't know.

I think maybe all of us as artists and actors, you'll just never feel like you're doing the absolute best job. Like, oh, you could if you could, or if you just could have another chance. You know, it's that feeling. I don't know if that ever leaves you. No, I don't think it will. And also knowing that it's ultimately not going to be up to you. Because they are going to take

several times what you did. I was just listening to WTF with Marc Maron, your co-star, because I've recently kind of, not discovered, not rediscovered, but I'm enjoying the podcast again because I've been watching Glow

and I like him very much. I really enjoy WTF. But I listened to the Anne Hathaway episode and she was talking, I really enjoyed this episode and I actually liked her a lot after it. Oh sure. But she was discussing Brokeback

Mountain and she was saying how Ang Lee would say, now play this take like you know your husband is gay. And she would. Lay it on pretty thick sometimes and then not. And then he would say, now play this take like you have absolutely no idea. And she would do that.

And then she said when she watched the movie, she saw both. And it was like a performance that was put together essentially by the director and the editor. And that's just like part of being an actor is it's you take that direction and you do what you do and you try to see it as best as you can and play the text and remember it's not really about you or your choices are there to be manipulated in like the most professional way like exploited for your resources which is like i want to i want to be that way like i want you to get the best nugget yes but it's so strange to like let go of your

idea of what it should be especially because it's like well i mean i don't feel like i'm gonna get that many you know i just feel like is there going to be another chance like I want to make sure that this is a good representation of me and then it's like of brown women of brown Indian American you know like you feel I know you can't but it's

like you just or maybe you can but it's like for me it's like other then it's completely out of control yeah but as in the it's awful. But in that position, I'm like, it wasn't because they needed more brown people in this room. You know, so you feel like you have to be a good representation of. Sure. You're basically of yourself.

Right. Like be as true to yourself as you can. But also then it's like, I don't know, it gets. It gets. gets totally too big sometimes yeah and i'm and i'm sorry i didn't mean to like speak for you in that in that in that thought and that sentiment but just i you know of course and we all feel the same yes definitely or maybe you weren't included in something for a particular reason it's just something that when you come from a minority perspective i think is always going to be in

your mind right whether that's uh fair for us not. You know what I mean? It just isn't. So I do want to talk about, of course, GLOW. Yeah. Because actually what you just said, when I was watching it, that show really, of course, it depicts a certain time period. Yeah. But it has certainly a take on the way minorities are presented in the world of ladies wrestling. Can you speak a little bit to that?

What is that like? Because it's very edgy, and it's really interesting to watch, and it has such a sense of humor about itself, but especially today when everyone has an opinion about everything, I'm watching it thinking, what are people going to think of this? It just charges into it.

I think, yeah, it was like that party scene where I think, yeah, I think... I'm specifically talking about when they filmed you guys gonna think of this it just charges into it like i think yeah it was like that party scene yes where i think is yeah i think i'm specifically talking about when they filmed you guys on the camera and they were asking you to do like the like ultimate stereotype and like yeah it was so rough i mean for me that was like so intense i was losing my shit yeah and there were a lot of conversations with the writers who were Liz and Carly, Liz Flehab, Carly Mensch, who were so receptive to our thoughts, like making sure everyone had a dimensional story. But that it's like it's about these labels. It's about like, yeah, just setting that up first and then we'll on you know unpack unpack that yeah and that it's like it is that's the whole point of it like how people are things

are put upon people and this is like the most extreme version of that but it was like uh i've never felt i was having having a really, really hard time. I mean, talking with them, I wanted to bring more of like this meta thing, this actual conflict into the arc. And we talked about it, and we did have it in there, but it all actually got cut, and it just sort of – I don't want to spoil it, but it just is pared down to like

that major moment in the last episode so i hope we can have that conversation in furthers in like other seasons but that particular moment i never felt more out of my body and like oh my god i'm this is menstrual c like i was just like this is i am this is crazy yeah and the moment of like um taking the gun yeah like we did different like different reactions for me to like how okay are you with this how aware of this situation are you like it's a lot to to do in like a small moment like a character's level of intelligence and where they're like where their heart is and then just like is this a funny moment or is this not a funny moment and a lot of the takes like in the party too we would do certain lines where it's like is this is this like a comedic moment or a dramatic moment? And it's kind of crazy that we did both takes.

And they used both? No, it would just be like one or the other, but just like not sure where to land tonally. Wow, they just wanted to get their coverage. Yeah, and ultimately like watching that episode, it's so much lighter than it felt. And it's like, it's funny. And all the girls are in that situation.

It's, like, we really were each struggling with, like, how to do this as an actor. Yeah. And be, like, a dimensional person, not perpetuating things, but, like, putting it out there so we could debunk them. Right. And it was a super supportive fluid set. Like we were talking all the time about like, is this, I mean, we're working in like a mostly female environment, but like also challenging like, well, just because it's female, is it just, is it the same thing? Is it like the same power structure and the same sense of like, I can't speak my mind?

It's like one less variable. It's like, well, if everybody's a woman, that can't be what the thing is. It must be something else. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. It's fascinating. I'm really proud of everyone.

Yes. It's so good. I can't believe it comes off so much funnier. Even to see it in a detached way. It's like, oh oh that's really funny like kia stevens who plays teme and when we're at the party scene and he's like and you bash chris says you you're and you're a big black girl and she's like what the fuck you said it's so perfect it's so funny actually or like it kind of lightens the mood but doing oh sorry doing over, we were just like, is this fun?

It feels bad. It feels bad. Yeah, while you're doing it. But I think it succeeds as a scene. Yes. Just tackling this very charged thing, but sort of making it seem like, A, relevant to the plot. B, like, this is an inflection for all these girls. Like, oh, you have to sort of change your presentation based on the public's perception of you.

And C, it's light. I mean, I thought it worked. It's also a period piece. You know what I mean? And those discussions weren't being had. I was actually even surprised when Welfare Queen gets that moment where she says, you know, this is offensive.

Yes. Because I don't, and you know, maybe that is like giving even that character a little bit too much credit because, you know, that wasn't a thing that people said. You know what I mean? I'm still glad it's in the show. So glad it happened.

And I was like, but, and it's just like, it makes you think even more. It's like, well, you know, not every character has this opportunity to call this out. And that's like the crazy thing about it being a period piece is that it is so closely parallel to what is going on right now. Wrestling even more so with our dumbass president. But the moments where we have to spell it out in that party scene and in with like that scene with Tame and Mark. Where it's like, yes, this is the way the world sees you. And that's why I'm saying this. And then it's like, oh, are you talking about stereotypes?

Like it seems really silly to have to do that almost but it's like we have not moved we haven't moved as much as we thought we had not at all it's a very powerful show

in that way and it's entertaining which is so smart I'm really enjoying it I'm on episode 9 so I still have some ways to which is I'm really enjoying it so smart I'm on episode 9 so I still have some ways to go and I'm really enjoying it just a little bit

it's so much different than I thought it would be you know what I mean me too I really thought I thought watching it from the outside I was like

oh they're gonna jump right in this is gonna be a show that is glow yeah you know but it's so much about the process of getting there and I'm really But it's so much about the process of getting there

and I'm really enjoying like it's really it's the show it reminds me a little bit of you know shows like Mad Men where you're really sitting with the characters

so now when you're getting towards the end of the season you really know them so well. I think it's really well done in that way. So and oh my god these actresses are incredible.

Oh my god. I'm such a fan of Alison Brie forever. So good. I mean, I love her. She's so talented. So talented. So good.

But I will say this. Fucking Betty Gilpin. Betty Gilpin. Let me tell you. Praise Betty Gilpin. Praise the Lord. Let me tell you. She's something else.

She's incredible. She's raging. She is so fierce. Yeah. She can something else. She's incredible. She's raging. She is so fierce. Yeah. She can do anything. It's shocking. She can do everything. Like the littlest thing that she does is like opens up this whole world of a person.

Yeah. And I can't believe that. I'm like constantly in awe of the fact that she can continually do that. Yeah. And try something new or try like just volume change. You that she can continually do that. Yeah. And try something new or try, like, just volume change. You know, all these things that... Yeah. You know, I think it was...

It's come to her. Exactly. It was the scene in the pilot where... At the end. At the end. Now, watching it, you could think to yourself, like, this is a little bit of a jump. Like, this character's going to come into this gym, start a public fight with her friend. They're all going to air this out. It's tough. It's a tough

scene to execute. You know what I mean? It's very it's a very pilot-y scene. In that we have to start the action and but you buy it. Because she's so stunning and Alison Brie's reception of her behavior is so fantastic. And I did listen to their

Marc Maron interview and i heard that that was their audition scene oh wow yeah and that they um actually were uh screen tested together for a chemistry test on that scene like they flew them both up to canada apparently right and the casting director wasn't even there jen houston wasn't even there she like hired somebody to watch them and put them on tape oh Oh my goodness. But that they did that scene and they have this connection to that scene and that really reads,

I think that scene is so huge. Yes. And then the cut to, I guess the future or the dream sequence where they're so amazing. I just thought that was such a tough scene

to pull off and they really did and I was like, this is a special thing and this actress is fantastic. I say, I'm talking about her so much because I know like, this is a special thing. And this actress is fantastic. I say, I'm talking about her so much because I know Alison Brie's work and I know how amazing she is. She's just kicking ass to me. Betty Gilpin.

Watching her do that scene over and over, coming in with a baby and like streaming tears and gut fierceness and like changing like she goes through so many levels and like to buy that she actually wants to kick her ass yeah is you're right it's like so hard to pull off and it was thrilling we were all like truly riveted oh yeah riveting you watch that i watched that back like three or four times. I was like, you know what? Let me go back to the first episode. Yeah. Fast forward to the end. Because it really is incredible.

Oh, you know what else I rewatch of hers is when she's explaining to the guy what Liberty Bell is. And she's like, yes. Oh, my gosh. It's just such a funny moment. She's so funny. The physical stuff is amazing. What a great physical actress.

And she wrote something for Cosmo, I want to say. Glamour. Saw this. Saw this. Glamour magazine about her body image journey. And it's so funny. Endearing and charming and just really real. And she really opened up. What a star. Anyway, you guys

are all so good. I'm so honored to work alongside them. I cannot believe I'm on the show. Oh my god. It's so amazing to see you on it it's so fun like I really and I can't wait for you know more seasons because I can't wait to get to know your character better yeah me too yeah I can't wait to see where it goes and hopefully there will be like in I don't know we can deal with the meta reality or you're gonna get there and yeah it's just nice.

And you were talking about in these conversations with the writers and it's just, you know, as challenging as that inherently is, you know, it's such a great opportunity that you're even having those conversations and like that's the dream. It's like you're able to build this together

and it's so exciting. And no, I mean what I say. It's like you are just really, really, really fucking great to watch, Sunita. Thank you. Really you are. I'm so, I really what I say. It's like you are just really, really, really fucking great to watch, Sunita. Thank you. Really, you are. I'm so, I really, thank you. It's great.

I mean, you are, you're spectacular. I fucking, I just, well, you know what scene I love? When the hot pizza boy comes over. Oh, those are great. Hashtag pizza boy. Pizza boy. I wanted to, I'll say it. I wanted to see more, if you know what I mean.

Okay. I wanted to see sexual scenes with him. I wanted to see it. Season two. Oh my god. Season two. Season two. Dick is in the pizza box.

Yes, yes. Pizza dick. And your whole, and the way you were acting in those scenes were just great, too. I got my eye roll. You got your eye roll? But it was such a good eye roll. Comedic value! What was the line?

It was like, well, there's this number, and she's like, does he want me to call? Do you think he wants me to call? And you're like, yeah. Yeah. I loved it. What a nail. It really felt like we conjured the women of the 80s, though, too. Yes.

I mean, we have moved on to lighter moments. But with those testimonials, like with those personality things where you're in the situation that a woman was in in 1985 to be this like crazy exaggerated stereotype to make like commentary on it. But you still have to do it. It's like, it was, it truly was like mothers of 1985. And then, and then before that and before that and before that,

it's like a really expansive lineage show. Yeah. I mean, with all the women, like the 14 women, like there's just so much to pull from. Oh yeah. Yeah. And we. Oh yeah.

Yeah. And we're, yeah. But it's really fun to just also be the, in the 80s trope. Yeah. Totally. It's fun. The ham-iness of it,

for me anyway, like I love, I love it. You gotta love an 80s costume. But the music too, the music is just like, oh yes, this is the perfect thing for this moment what I love about it

it seems like it's always um the sun is always setting in the show oh sure I feel like that's like the aesthetic is so like it's always 730 I feel like that's happening a lot like there's like it's like very cool

like neon lights setting I really love the aesthetic of the show. But, like, a little rugged because, like, you've been through the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, because it's all, like, the exterior stuff is always, like, parking lot. Yeah. It's, like, parking lot things where it's, like, they've reversed. Parking lot realness.

Parking lot realness, girl. Absolutely. There is a lot of parking lots in the show. You know what? Matt's wagging his finger like he's really discovered something. I really discovered this. A critique. A critique of culture. No, it's not a critique. I want more parking

lots. Put up a parking lot. There is some meaning to that setting where it's like it's somewhere where people it's a repository for people's cars. You know what? Yes. We could get real film school about this. What does the parking lot

mean in GLOW? What does it mean? Prescribed space. It ultimately tells real art we can get real film school about this oh yeah what does the parking lots mean and glow mean and glow what does it mean prescribed space yeah um it ultimately tells a queer narrative i think i you know what and i and definitely yeah i will write a treatise on this later but before we get to i don't think so honey we have not forgotten about these user submitted rules of culture no let's let's just let's just uh read out the one that we love right now. So Sunita, now our listeners are submitting rules of culture, and we're inviting some into the camp. Yes.

That's good. So here we go. This is today's rule from Janie Stohr, who is a host of the new Forever Dog podcast, Relatively Healthy. Yes, check it out. With her sister, Dr. Ellen Stohr. Really cool. I will check it out. Yeah, sister, Dr. Ellen Stoller. This is rule number I will check it out.

Yeah, it's a doctor and a comedian fielding issues. They're two different takes on issues and they're sisters. So many hooks. So many hooks.

And there's a hotline you can call 1-800-STOLER-X I believe. Is that right, HPJ? Okay, HPJ, Hot Producer Joe might correct me.

Check it out on foreverdog.com You know whatcom look it up okay so this is rule number look it up it's not our fucking responsibility

Jesus Christ we already said enough yeah alright Janie relax this is from Janie Stolar rule number two multiple people's heads peeking in from a door frame

must be arranged from oldest bottom to youngest top which is a great rule I love it I think it's hard to get the younger ones

on top, though, because they're usually not the tallest ones. You created a challenge. That's really hard, Janie, but for culture's sake, we're going to try to do it. Yeah, we'll do it. From now on, that's the rule. Youngest at the top, oldest at the bottom. Maybe if it's like

Baby Bjorn, you had to put the kid on your back in a sack. There you go. That's it. You have to help it out. You have to nurture the young. Maybe they're on each other's backs, right? So what you don't see is the fact that they're on each other's backs like a pyramid.

There you go. And because the youngest one is probably the lightest, but of course we don't want to make any assumptions about the weight of the child. Right. No. That one is probably on top. Or that he has a body. Yeah. Or that he has a body.

He or she. Could very well just be a head and you know what? That's fine. If you identify as just a head, it's fine. Go forth. Go forth. Let's move on to I Don't Think So Honey. Yes. Now listeners may be familiar with this segment. I Don't Think So Honey.

It is our one minute to comfort culture that we are not feeling right now. And of course, I Don't Think So Honey live on August 11th featuring Sunita Mani. And 49 other comics. This will be your second one. You'll be the only person on stage with that history.

Who's already. Yes. Well, yeah, okay. From raffle winner to life giver. There you go. Raffle winner to life giver oh there you go raffle winner to life giver um this is huge this is huge this is gonna bring some people in oh yeah i think oh for sure matt do you have one ready i do okay this is matt rogers no i don't i can't believe that i have to even say this okay it's one of those i don't think so honeys that is like you know what we're gonna have to do it but i think through your saying, it will have been even more underlined and valid.

We need to talk about it. Matt Rogers says, I don't think so honey, time starts now. I don't think so honey, people who don't flush the toilet because they peed and it's just pee and they're trying to quote, save water. No, bitch. Let me tell you something I don't care if Al Gore himself Came to me and said You could save the planet by flushing By keeping your pee in this toilet

No It is not acceptable To do this It is pee, it is unseemly It smells, it does stain the bowl 30 seconds You have got to be kidding me it is not respectful

for you to walk out of the bathroom I go in and there's piss in the bowl I will next time I see this go to you and say I don't think so honey get back here

and flush it I will publicly shame you I will shout it to high heaven and I will come for you do not this is unacceptable if you're pooping you're flushing if you're peeing it to high heaven. And I will come for you. Do not. This is unacceptable. If you're pooping,

you're flushing. If you're peeing, you're flushing. You're flushing. Period. If you see anything in the bowl, flush it. That's one minute. I don't think so, honey. Oh, wow. You clean up after yourself. I'm done. I work at an establishment. I'm not going to say which one. I have several jobs, but

there's one where the clientele, I don't know what it is about this place, they don't flush. Oh, yeah. And it's crazy. They care about the environment, it sounds like. I don't know, Matt. That one's tough. No. You don't pee.

Do you do this? Sometimes. Do you keep the pee in the bowl? It depends on what time of day and the pungency. And it depends on the culture. Because I think they do this a lot in China and in Europe where there's a lot of population strain on resources. So, Matt, you really have to think about that. I refuse to think about culture here.

I will not be culturally sensitive to this. No. You have to flush your pee. Alrighty. Unless you are so well hydrated that you can make it a secret. Okay. But if your pee is bright yellow, A, you need to fucking drink more water, and B, you better be flushing.

Wow. All right. If you have Amorio pee. Yellow pee in Spanish. It goes down. It goes down. It goes down la puerta. The door?

The port? Okay. The port? Oh gosh. This is going to be one of those really last minute ones. Okay, bitch. On brand for Bowen. But these have such a hit or miss success rate, but let's go.

This is Bowen Yang's last minute I don't think so, honey. And here he is already grabbing his temple, honey. Trying to psych himself up. Here we hold on. Last minute, I don't think so, honey. And here he is already grabbing his temple, honey, trying to psych himself up. Here we go, Bowen Yang, I don't think so. Any time starts now. I don't think so, honey. People who go to Xi'an Famous Foods and don't know their order right off the top, bitch.

I go in there with a mission. I know what I want. I want the stewed pork noodles, and I want the ground pork burger, and I want a fucking chrysanthemum jasmine iced tea, bitch. I don't think so, honey people. You fucking, you think you're so cultured going to some southern Chinese casual fast food establishment and taking your sweet goddamn time. It's fast, casual, honey.

30 seconds. Look at the board. Take your time, but step out of my way while I go up to the register that I know by name. Hi there, Dong. I love you so much. He knows my order every time I go. It's the one in Chinatown. They just got a new mural.

It's gorgeous. Go. I don't think so, honey. You customers. So look online. Get your bearings. Find your footing with the orders, bitch. And know what you're going to say at the cashier.

And don't hold up the space for me, honey. Five seconds. I don't think so, space for me, honey. Five seconds. I don't think so, honey. Chinese food isn't for everyone. Maybe it's just for us. Whoa! That's one minute. Holy shit.

That was stunning. Stunning. That was incredible. Gorgeous girl. You know what? We're starting a lot of controversies in this episode. You are. Oh, my gosh.

I love them. That was very good. Can I say? Chrysanthemum Jasmine. Oh, say it. Oh, Chrysanthemum Jasmine. I think, coming to the stage, Chrysanthemum Jasmine. Two different flowers, bitch.

Two different flowers. I thought you said Jennifer Flowers. Jennifer Flowers. Of course, we remember her. A huge part of culture. R.I.P. A huge part of culture. R.I.P.

Jennifer Flowers. It's time, Sunita. Now. Oh, I do one.I.P. A huge part of culture. R.I.P. Jennifer Flowers. It's time, Sunita. Now. Oh, I do one too? Of course. Of course you do. What are you, kidding? Are you crazy?

Oh my God. This is truly. Okay. This will be your second of three. Think back on when you were called on to the stage at the last I Don't Think It's a Honey Live and it just came to you. You just had it. This is kind of, I guess so.

Okay, do you have something? This kind of happened recently. It's only just the moment. Please. The way that you are doing this with your hand makes me feel like it's going to be quite good. Because already the sass is like, I'm with the who. Okay. It's coming through who.

Here we go. Through who? It's Imani. I don't think so, honey. Time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Man in a Kangol hat hailing me on my bike as a taxi who do you think i am also you want my attention obviously but what reality are you living in

where you can get i'm going to stop and you are going to ride on the back of my bike so I can take you where? 30 seconds. You must remember when a woman is on her bike. You must remember. Think of it. She is her clitoris is

pressed into the seat. Stimulate. She is on a mission. She does not have time. She is on a mission. She doesn't have time. She is on top, bitch. Man in Kangol hat. Call a cab. Lift. Five seconds.

Whatever, bitch. I don't think so, honey. Oh, that's one minute. Wow, that's shocking. What happened? What just happened? Oh, you blacked out, girl. Oh, my God.

You did an amazing takedown of a man in a Kangol. It was so specific. I wish you had been here to see it. It was so good. First of all, men, no more Kangol hats. No more men. No more men, honestly. No more men.

I'm done. HPJ, get out. Replace all the men with bikes. Yeah. You can't even spill water. Ugh. This place is soaking wet. I'm so... I can't believe that happened.

It's so, honestly, dangerous. It's so distracting where I'm like, huh? What? And then, who knows? Car? Car could hit me. No, honestly, was he making sounds? Yes. He's making a scene. Oh my God. This nation is corrupt.

Cross streets? Do we know? Can we get cross streets? This is Park Slope. No. I don't think so honey. Park Slope. South Slope.

In fact, I've come for South Brooklyn on this very podcast and thank you so much for solidifying what garbage it is. No. No way. I don't think so honey. South Brooklyn. South Brooklyn. Overrated trash. If you're south of is. No, no way. I don't think so, honey. South Brooklyn. South Brooklyn. Overrated trash.

If you're south of Flatbush, get out. But no, but Sunita's in Sunset Park. I'm on Sunset Park. Yeah, but you know what? Good thing. It's so pure. Because they need you there. It's pure.

Because if you weren't there, I would burn it to the ground. But you're the only thing that keeps me from regional arson. There you go. I love being a savior. Savior. Oh my God. Absolutely. I love being a savior. I love being a savior. Savior! Oh my god. I love being a savior. I love being a savior.

Oh my god. Rule number 12 of culture. I love being a savior. Makes no sense. This episode was fabulous. Thank you so much, Junita. I don't want it to end. I don't want it to end either.

Thank you for having me. I will say this. I mean, we've had great conversations in the past. This was a meaty one about the craft bitch. And look, you listen to Sunita talk at length about acting, even though she says she's just recently gotten into it. But she speaks. I'm still getting used to the camera.

Really, the fact that it's in the room, what? It doesn't make any sense. But the way you're able to speak about it you speak about it with such maturity and grace and Oscar winner Suni Tamani. Academy Award winner I mean who fucking knows yeah

SAG Award SAG Award honestly watch watch who knows honestly with that big old cast okay that's a big cast and you know they'll nominate wow that's a big cast and you know they'll nominate they'll nominate

and they'll give out wow that's a gag to think about though 14 SAG awards honey or 15 with Mark OITNB wins every doodah day they do

win all the doodah day new ensemble in town there you go new ensemble in town there's a new Netflix ensemble in town get out of here Uzo

and oh my god see you later Laverne Cox bye Natasha bye Natasha bye Natasha catch snowy bing bongs at the Brooklyn Comedy Festival at Nighthawk

August 22nd I will be there I'm so excited and watch Glow the new hit show I hope you'll like we love and HPJ

has to get the fuck out of here he has to go spill water all around town so guys thank you so much. We love you. I've been Bowen Yang. Matt Rogers,

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