Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "You Have To Grow A Penis" (w/ Chloe Fineman)

Episode Date: September 19, 2018

Remember: "Steering Wheel Acting" wins awards.The hilarious Chloe Fineman (@ChloeIsCrazy) is in-studio with Matt & Bowen and she has brought 5 beverages with her! They discuss catcalling, the intensity/self-seriousness/general insanity of acting programs, the effect of "Black Swan" on emotional acting students, the Groundlings, impressions, The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, and more.Plus, one of your hosts gets a real life meatball stuck in his brain!---MERCH! MERCH! GET YOUR LAS CULTURISTAS MERCH!https://www.teepublic.com/stores/las-culturistasLAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASThttp://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Forever. Dog. Look, man. Where? Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there wow is that culture yes goodness wow ding dong let's culture is just calling here's the actual tea okay yesterday i was at my

beloved family's home beloved and my mother had made her food and we were eating the food and I ate it a little too fast. And does this ever happen to you where it goes down the wrong pipe, but it doesn't like, it goes into your sinuses? Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. That's horrible. It's the worst feeling. There is a meatball in my brain.

Currently. Right now. And I woke up and I thought, surely it will have passed. There is a piece of food in my sinuses and i'm starting to feel sick okay here's what you do you're gonna go to you're gonna go to your cvs you're gonna buy a neti pot not a neti pot i mean it's functionally it's the same idea but just one of those like saline rinses you gotta flush that out oh my god it feels insane you have a meatball brain once i ever tell you the story about the one time I ate McDonald's too fast in high school

and then fries came out of my nose? Oh, no. Okay. This is... What? I mean, that's the whole story. That's the whole story. Okay, okay, okay.

But listen... Matt, you gotta be careful. I have to be careful when you're eating. It's actually rule of culture number 16. You gotta be careful when you're eating.

I used to have the worst habit of not chewing my food completely and then swallowing it and then it getting stuck. And I had to... What do you think that's about? Oh it's about It's about the cultural ergonomics It's a very Chinese thing

It's a very immigrant narrative And I was bent over The Costco bathroom stall First of all can we just say hot? Hot, bent over, agape Oh my god, literally hot I had. Bent over. So fucking hot. A gape. Oh my God. Literally hot. I had like a two inch piece of hot dog stuck in my esophagus for about four hours.

And I was just in Costco trying to wash it down. And my parents just being like, what did we do to, how did this happen? What did we do to make this happen? It's good they were asking those questions. And I do blame them. And I do blame them. I do blame them. Now.

And I blame us for getting such a good guest. I blame. What a great segue. I think if we have too good of a time tonight, I blame them. And I do blame them. I do blame them. Now. And I blame us for getting such a good guest. I blame. What a great segue. I think if we have too good of a time tonight, I blame us. I blame us. And we're going to have the best time. Can I tell you what the party is? What's the party?

At Chloe is crazy. At Chloe is crazy. Ooh, honey, it is a trove of content every day. Each day. Each day. Sometimes more than once a day. You'll get a treasure trove. And it will become impressions down.

It will become characters down. Characters down. Acting moments down like steering wheel acting. Or it's photo shoot moments. It's dance moments. It's street things. Last night she had this fucking guy who was catcalling her,

following her, and it was riveting to watch. She can turn anything into Academy Award. Academy Award, but it's truly compelling. Let me tell you where I met this person.

Catherine Cohen. Again, how many times do I say this? She links. It's my favorite show. She links it up. She links, yes. It's my favorite show in New York.

It's my favorite show. Well, you see. Cabernet Cabaret, I was guest hosting for Catherine. Yes, I remember this. I was sitting in the audience our guest goes up I was like oh

she literally my god Catherine emailed me like two hours before she was like okay we literally this person is in town we must have her on the show I was like okay cool

give me her number came in slayed did impressions of famous celebrities giving beach it was a moment giving BJ's Blue Jays

Blue Jays BJ's Blue Jays.'s. Blue Jays. Blue Jays. B.J.s. Toronto Blue Jays. Blowjobs. Blue Jays from Toronto, honey. I think she's so funny. And then just, and then the moment that you,

I mean, at this point, tens of thousands of people follow her, but at the moment that you look through her stuff, you're just like, It's a treasure trove. Wow. Anyway. We're very happy.

We're very happy. She's in town from L.A., and so we have her on the pod and her name is Chloe Feynman. Thank you. Wow. Hey, Chloe.

This is a big, and also this is a moment where I was like, I literally have been telling people, I was like, you know, Chloe Feynman's coming on the show. And people are like,

oh my God, what? Oh my God. My friend Nika from LA is gagged. Really? Yes. Really? Okay, can we talk about what happened last night?

You were walking down. So it's actually, I can't stop thinking about the fact that I'm not getting catcalled in 2018. And you're lamenting it. I'm lamenting it. I like tried, because it was like this thing. I was like, this is content that has legs. Conversation starter. Conversation starter. Conversation starter.

I remember like putting on shorter gym shorts and going in downtown LA just like, hello. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like silence. Wow.

Everywhere. But then when you were here, when you were in school here, would that happen? Yeah. Yeah, okay. More disgusting city, New York. A little bit more disgusting,

but also like I have a butt, and it was nice to have it finally be acknowledged. Right, right, right. If on the street. But not last night. It's been silenced, honestly, for the last year. Ever since the Me Too movement, I'll never forget.

I used to walk downtown, and there was this guy in a driveway, a security guard, and he'd always be like, hey, lady. And I walked by, and he looked at me and his mouth just was glued together wow the power he learned his lesson

he learned his lesson but I hate it and I have all these girls being like yeah like I don't know if I look good like we're so mad at getting cackled

but we need it but you need it oh my god and how does it get reflected back is the thing right yeah but then okay

so then talk about this guy coming up to you. Because this guy was- So he was really kind and I was really desperate. But he was aggressive. Yeah, yeah. But I was desperate. Okay.

And I was asking for it. I was in a tube top. You were in a tube top. You look great. And he came up- Thank you. Thank you. Thoughty 30.

Thoughty 30. Thoughty 30. Yeah. I love that. It's an embracing. It is. It is. How much time left do we have on Thoughty 30?

Is it Thoughty 30s or Thoughty 30? I think we can make it the Thoughty 30s. I think it's an embracing. It is. It is. How much time left do we have on 30? Is it 30-30s or 30-30? I think we can make the 30-30s. I think it's the 30-30s. 20s was NYU stage blacks. Yes. For sure. And period costumes.

Yes. 30s are 30. Yeah, good. 30s are 30. What studio were you in at NYU? I was at Adler. Adler.

Yeah, Rachel Winitsky was in my studio. Oh, wow. Okay, yes. The famous Winitsky. Yeah. I mean, so you're in Adler. Adler, wow.

You're in your studio box. You walk outside, immediately get catcalled. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Yes, the Chelsea catcallers. Yes. Wait, was that at Chelsea? Was Adler at Chelsea?

It's in Chelsea, yeah. Great, great, great. Okay, so Adler is like a studio where they take it V seriously. So serious. Yeah. I didn't leave all four years wow which is people should know is uncommon very very uncommon yeah usually people you know they dip around they dip around they go to London the experimental theater you wanted to

stay in there Adler I was like I need to play this 50 year old alcoholic now truthfully now at 21 at 21 yeah did you take yourself as seriously as the studio took itself more seriously really yeah like i get embarrassed coming back to new york and like seeing people like rachel because they know me a certain way and i'm desperately trying to never remember and so what way was that like in what ways did you take yourself so serious one time i had a meltdown in the bathroom over a roll and the head of the, Stella Adler's grandson, Tom Oppenheim

banged on the door. Tom. Tom was like, I was great. I was just weeping and he was banging on the door. He's like, Chloe, Chloe, come out. Chloe, please let us talk to you. Chloe, Chloe. Yes. This is theater school. I was theater school absolutely yeah and i

was like and i'm like talking to my mom and she's like what is wrong like people are gonna worry and then i were worried of course they were worried and then i came out and then they went up to the front desk and they're like it's okay it happens at least once a week these kids they're constantly breaking down. But see, this is the thing, as someone who secretly always, secretly wanted to be

a tish kid while I was at NYU. Oh, I was, but I wanted to be an acting kid. You were, yes. I got into dramatic writing because it was the

quote unquote easiest to get into. Right, and I was like even more degreed away than that. I also feel like the most sustainable. I'm happy I went now.

At the time, I agree with what Bowen is about to say you really wanted that kind of acting education well secretly I was like I am not in the right place you wanted the passion but my conception of what drama school was like was crying in a bathroom

and having Tom Oppenheim Stella Adler's grandson knocking on the door and also never forget, there was, I got in a huge fight because the casting of the plays had come out

and I was cast as Lady Macbeth. Fabulous. And no one wanted, I did, because it's a great role, that people were out to kill me. Oh yeah, I've experienced that.

And this girl, and this girl's boyfriend was Macbeth and she was so upset and so mean that she started running down the halls. Oh, my God. Weeping. And I was like, Eleanor, Eleanor. Come, Eleanor, let's talk.

Eleanor. Oh, my God. And she was like, no, no. Because she desperately wanted to be Lady Macbeth. She wanted them to have the power couple. To do a power couple do the play. And so I remember circling her, and I was like, Eleanor, talk. Eleanor, Eleanor, Eleanor.

She was like, no. And she always wore like really fancy Marc Jacobs because NYU has like those rich kids. So she was like draped in couture and like ignoring me. And then Ellen Adler, Stella Adler's grandmother saw us

and she was crying and she goes, if my mother knew that you girls were arguing on Rosh Hashanah, I swear to God. No. So this was like, this was, this is like this time of year. Yeah. Wow.

That is unbelievable. September casting. So how did the production go ultimately? Oh, I'm very, okay. So they brought in a director who directs Shakespeare, like the Harlem Shakespeare Company. I love it. So it was not used to directing whites in their early, like 20-year-old white girl. And so I was like, he wanted me to like spit on Macbeth and like grab his, I do this thing where I was like, no.

And I would like fake grab his balls and look him in the eyes. Love that. Because she's really got the power. how to know and i would like fake grab his balls and look him in the eyes love that and be like because she's really got the power yeah she's got the power to be like was like uh you know the baby line i don't know sure sure i'm blinking on all of ladies yes i don't remember it either never was the hope drunk grab his balls look him in the eye spit it was very like okay and you did that i did that and i was doing it and i hit him or something and he was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. What's going on? And his direction was like, come on, she's crazy.

She's crazy. And so I spit on him and the director was like, why did you do that? Like, what? That was so crazy. And I was like, well, you told me she's crazy. He goes, no, no, no. Like, damn, you crazy.

Oh my God. And he was white. He's like an old white Italian guy And so the day that we premiere our show He sits us down and is like Enjoy this Kazem You're probably never going to play these roles again What?

I remember this God rest her soul But Liz Suedos She would fuck with my head So we did a Tish main stage of Marat Saad I remember that I played the Marquis de Saad. Mm-hmm. I remember that. I played the Marquis de Saad. Oh my God.

And it was controversy because I was in dramatic writing, but I was one of Liz's favorites. I mean, I can say now. Yeah. But she selected, and I remember I got a...

And so people were out to kill you. They were out to kill me. They do that. It's gross. I mean, they were so upset, and I guess they had a point because I was not a drama student.

Here I was in the main stage. Sure, sure, sure. But I kind of was like, well, you know, this is what happens in the industry. Models are going to take your part, so it might as well be me. You compared yourself to models.

Well, to models who had no rights to take the jobs. But it's true. But I was like, you know what? I honestly was just like fighting, fighting, fighting to be accepted. And then, of course, there was, of course, all the pressure on me to be good at the part. And then you add on to it. By the way, they made it a punk rock musical.

I don't know if you remember that. I remember this. Yeah. Did you see it? I saw it. I think I saw it. And I'm starstruck that it was you. Oh, that was me.

I was the mark you just saw. I sang the song where we got whipped and it was like a punk rock ballad. It actually was pretty badass. Okay. I don't know if I did it well. I don't remember a single fucking thing. No, it was like a full fever dream. It was crazy.

It was like being underwater. It was 19-year-old screaming at a bunch of fucking white middle class adults. Because they said it in a detention facility for troubled youth. Yeah, yeah. And they also had us write our own monologues as the characters. In top of doing the text, which was musicalized in punk rock. It was insane. That's what they do.

But I remember Liz would drive me nuts because she'd give me different direction every day and totally like she's like no i want the character to be like stephen tyler so then i would come in and i'd be like stephen tyler she goes wait can i see you just well like when she said stephen tyler i was like okay so you want to be like an active rock star yeah like johnny depp you want him to be like come in and with swag okay she's like no it should be much more moody than that i'm like okay well stephen tyler isn't moody and then i i kind of realized that she she either one of two things didn't know what she wanted and was gonna when she saw it was like do that or she wanted me to be confused she constantly wanted to to keep it fresh and have you switch back and i think what she wanted was for me to be like a lunatic.

Yeah. And she succeeded. I was fully crazy. It died me her black. And that like changed my personality. You looked like a villain. That's why I don't recognize you. Probably.

I remember Black Swan had just come out. Oh my God. Yes. Yes. Yes. You remember this era? I too was a tishton black oh yeah so that changed too that changed the way you thought i remember one time i had a

this is the most nyu story and i probably have told you before but i had a fight with my voice teacher who asked me to he asked me to sing that rock ballad in in voice class with him and i hadn't gone over it with him because he he was trying to get me to sing. Oh, what a beautiful morning. And I just was like, this is not the way I sing. So he's like, can you sing the ballad that you sing in the show for me now? I want to hear the way you're singing it.

He told me, I could tell you that you're not allowed to go on stage singing it the way you sing it. And I'm like, well, I have to sing it like from my gut. Like it's like, it's like a,

I'm like thrashing around getting whipped while I do it. It's like, I have to, I can't really sing it like this. I can't do it like this. I have to do it like the, I'm like thrashing around getting whipped while I do it. It's like, I have to, I can't really sing it like this. I can't do it like this. I have to do it like the way I'm being directed to do it. He goes, this is why Tish sucks. They don't teach you how to sing correctly.

Steinhardt is the only place you learn how to sing correctly. We got into a fight. We got into a fight. And I walked from that class like Natalie Portman in the last scene of Black Swan, walking to Lincoln Center like crazed her hair is askew like I was like

and I stormed in and like threw my makeup on the table and did my makeup and it was like truly tish you don't get more tish than that

and gave like a fucking seven out of ten performance probably I remember seeing Black Swan in the Union Square same we saw it in that theater and I saw it with a girl

and we were in the middle of a play and I was so triggered by it because I felt like it was my story that she was like are you okay

and I was like I have to go take a lap and I walked alone like around Union Square and all that and just like processed the film

not a good movie for narcissistic drama students to be seeing I was like this narcissism story square and all that and just like processed the film. Not a good movie for narcissistic drama students to be seeing. I was like this narcissism story is my story. I relate. There's a kernel of truth to this. Both of you should be arrested for that behavior. I know. I fully

should have been under arrest. I also was very sexually reckless at the time. Oh. Hot producer Alex was in drama school at NYU. No. I was creative writing and history. Oh, cool.

Joe Cillio. Hot producer Joe. That's better. Joe was the actor. Creative writing was cool. I would have pegged Alex for an actor this whole time.

I'm sorry. You did act. He was a fabulous actor and a great director. Yeah. Wonderful. I took creative writing and there was a girl

who would show up with an entire pumpkin. Veganism had just hit NYU. Yeah. Wow. I took creative writing and there was a girl who would show up with an entire pumpkin. Veganism had like just hit NYU. And this girl would show up with like a baked pumpkin that she'd unwrap the tinfoil

and she would just eat the pumpkin. I love that. And we would read her. I love her. She's an icon. She was iconic.

She was iconic. Wait, it's actually rule of culture number 17. Pumpkins are iconic. Especially in October. They are. There in october they are there we go they are you know the pumpkin spice is back they are i like the kabocha squash a lot what's this that's the it's a japanese pumpkin oh i prefer my root vegetables japanese like the japanese sweet potato japanese wow yes yes yes you're a taro girl yeah i am yeah yeah yeah have you been to the east I have not

you have to go you have to go to any McDonald's in East Asia oh they'll have it they'll have apple pie but then in the same pastry as the apple pie

they'll put taro in it oh really I love taro it's so good taro chips yeah yeah there we go it's a dangerous thing

to cook though oh yes I'm from Berkeley and so we like are really eccentric I don't know yeah for sure everyone's like

a white person being like let me tell you like how to prepare tarot but you have to you can like poison yourself if you don't like soak it or something

yeah shit even I don't know that wait can we talk about this okay so what do you think because at this point it seems like you've undone all of this like

yeah wild histrionic like drama school behavioral stuff I am but but well you can look back on it now and be like oh my god i can't believe i was a nightmare well i can't believe i was that person like whether or not you're a nightmare is up to someone else yeah that's true that's actually very but um what do you think was the thing that like helped you like was it just time or like like because at what point do you look back on

yourself and be like oh i can't believe I was that person. Getting into comedy. I was not, I had no sense of humor. But all throughout, Tish was like, this is so dumb. You know what I mean?

You knew at the back of your head. Yeah, like Rachel was, like they knew they were funny. Yeah. But even Rachel didn't get into comedy until after she graduated. It didn't exist. It like truly did not exist

in that space. It didn't exist in that space. Yeah, yeah. But also we had this awful class where they like typecast 19 year olds basically. Oh God. So good for a 19 year old. So good for a 19 year old.

And I remember like that day you'd like come in and be like, well, people tell me I kind of look like Kate Winslet. Yeah. You know? So I guess I'm- I guess that's the line.

I'm the next Kate Winslet. And. You know? So I guess I'm the next Kate Winslet. And like, I remember like Rachel going up and some other funny Jewish girls and then being like, you're funny. You're this meets that.

You're hilarious. To you? Saying that to you? No. To like Rachel and like the Jewish girls that went up. Oh God.

The Jewish girls got to be funny and then I went up and I had highlights, which I still do. And they were like, elegant and complicated. And I died. that is monstrous

it was monstrous they think they know what they're talking about and all they do is get kids so in their heads that they can't actually find what they're meant to do right and I literally was like

but I'm and then I had to be like you can't be like I'm funny but you know they're like well you don't look funny yeah

they do that I mean in Cap 21 we have friends that went to cap 21 too and they they were the same thing i mean dave gets told all the time like he he said he got told a lot like you will never ever be funny you are only handsome like he he said he'll see even say it's like it's gross you go up there and they assess you and they and they're out of work i mean not to shit but like they don't have jobs they're just working in a i mean they work in a school.

Sure. I mean, where's... Yeah, like... They sat us down. I'll never forget. They sat us down, this guy, and he pointed to all of us, and he'd go, romantic lead, character actor, romantic lead, character actor, and then he'd go, in between. Did you ever hear this story?

They had this dance teacher. I guess his name was Lloyd or something. Of course. And he would just go, and he'd be like chorus lead funny no career what a fucking nightmare he would just like they go they would call him real life lloyd because he'd give you the real life and it makes you so self-involved my friend was staying with me at the time and i had everyone from our class come over yeah and like point and be like well you know you are you are rachel mc Which is like, no, but like you really are.

Like you're sweet. You don't see it, but you are. And we all, that's how we see you. Holy hell. And my friend, she was like a journal,

she's like a hyper genius journalist student and was like, why are you here? Yeah. This was so traumatic and gross for me to witness. God, I mean like,

I'm still like reckoning with that bullshit from high school. Really? And that is like, there's no structure behind that, but like, I don't know. High school? What happened in high school? I just had like shitty adults still like reckoning with that bullshit from high school and that is like, there's no structure behind that. But like, I don't know.

High school. What happened in high school? I just had like shitty adults who like didn't know what they were talking about. Be like, you will never be like the lead. Like, like you will never be like someone who will like be like prominently

featured on stage. Like make it work, make it work as like, like milk it as a chorus member. Do that. Somebody said to me one time, um, not handsome enough to be the star,

but not ugly enough to be the star but not ugly enough to be the best friend so hmm what and then i was like create your own work yeah wow i'm like i'm holding my face right now you guys can see oh my god it gets worse in la um okay really yeah but then it's like funny and you have a you know who you are. I mean, I know that I don't like to be myself. Sure. Auditions in LA, I mean, I've only done it like for one week,

but like the people who work those are their own breed of people. Oh yeah. They're just like, I mean like. You mean the people who like run the casting? Well like, yeah, like I,

like I did one with, with this woman who like worked out of a bungalow, lovely bungalow in Silver Lake. Oh, you did the, oh, that's a big deal to get to her bungalow. Yeah. I know who you're talking about.

I think I do too. She has like, she has like the sort of like the short hair. Yeah, yeah, good for you to get to that bungalow. She didn't have any sides. She was off book with the whole thing. Was giving me like full like grounded realism. Like, hey, so, and I was like, oh, we're just doing it. Like she walked into the room,

she sits down, and then she just starts. She started the scene. She started the scene, and I was like, and it was fine, and then, like, afterwards, she goes, yeah, okay, um, yeah, I'm gonna need you to come back in tomorrow, okay? Josh needs, like, whatever the guy needs to say, she was like, Josh needs

to see you, and, um, yeah, I see what you're doing, and just, like, it was just, like, so bizarre. She was like, Josh needs to see you. And yeah, I see what you're doing. And just like, it was just like so bizarre. It was lovely. Like it was a positive experience, but I was like, Oh, people in LA are so specific in how they do this.

Yeah. Yeah. It's well, they say it's harder. It's harder than theater. The specificity of the choices. I see. I agree with that.

It's true. When you, when you're acting on stage, you can perform. You can perform. But when you are acting on camera, you have to be acting. Yeah. You can't hide from the camera. It's true. Because when you're acting on stage, you can perform. You can perform. But when you are acting on camera, you have to be acting. Yeah.

You can't hide from the camera. Yeah. There's this awful teacher who actually, have you heard about this drama that happened where this woman told a Jewish girl to be Hispanic? Right, right, right.

Were we talking about that the other day? We were, yeah. Yeah, I love talking about it. I can't like that. But we talked about this, yeah. To a Jewish girl that she should change her name. That she should change her name to Rosa day? We were, yeah. Yeah, I love talking about it. I can't like that. But we talked about this, yeah. To a Jewish girl that she should change her name. That she should change her name to Rosa Ramirez. Right, right.

I read about this. She's based in New York, this person. The teacher? The teacher, yeah. No, she's in LA. Oh, she's in LA, okay, great. I was in her class around that time, and I ended up dropping out and used this to get out of it.

But I remember I showed up and wasn't fully off book, and she looked at me and was like, how can I critique your acting and wasn't fully off book and she looked at me and was like, how can I critique your acting when you're not off book? And he literally said like the instead of and. It was like, yeah.

Wait, the and? Wait, what are you talking about? My line was like, the fuck. And it was like procedural doctor sides

that like I'll never, ever go out for or cause anything to do with my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, the spinal fiff I'll never ever go out for or cause anything to do with my life yeah yeah yeah I was like the spinal fiffeta and she's like

I like spinal fiffeta better yeah how can I critique your acting if you're not if you're not off book yeah that is

I kind of live for that though I know that's the thing I was like I kind of am like I kind of love that I kind of think you're amazing. It is.

Wow. It's like that cold, like authority without raising your voice. It's just, it's literally, it's what you did the other day. It's Meryl Streep in Devil Wears Prada. She barely raises her voice.

Yeah, she never does. It's stillness. Yeah. But those, but like I've, but then like ever since I've thought of that, like,

I'm just like, I'm trying to like emulate, but like, but then you seem like you have to, that has to be earned. Like, I can't just do that from now on. Yeah.

Without someone being like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, to be quiet and like still. Well, that's the weird thing, right? It's like at this stage of our career where it's like starting out, it's like you go in there and you make a big choice. And they're like, what the fuck do they think they are? Like why didn't they do what they were supposed to do? Right, right, right.

But it's like, but I'm told to make choices. I had a really bad, my worst audition like so far was in new york like in the winter what was it what was that um no don't say what it was but like what was the experience i showed up i had a fun rainbow sweater that that was like trending at the time i love a trend yep 30 30 30 30 30 30 and the woman i like sit down i brought like glasses because she was a nerd. And then she was like, please take off your sweater. I like was wearing like a silk and a bra. And I was like, yeah, okay, sure.

So I took off this sweater and I like did it. And she was like, do you act? Oh my God. And I was like, what? She's like, well, I mean, you do the skits and the sketches. But do you act? Jesus Christ. Scripted material.

Here's the thing. I mean, this just goes without saying, but I'm just realizing this again now. It's so much worse for women. I was just going to say the same thing. Really? No casting director has ever treated me like that. Never. And I'm sorry.

Maybe a gay man. Really? And then I take that. I'm like, oh, great. We're just queening out. It's fine. Yeah, but sometimes it's the maybe a gay man would be like sweetie or can we can we do this like but no and maybe commercial

commercially the directors cast directors for commercials are a little bit more like um just like not willing to engage like it's more than an output that's kind of the nature of that but i've never been spoken to like that to another woman I felt so bad and I because I was like I'm not good at

multicam yet it's hard it was also like I got it you know I was like I got it the night before I had like five hours

it was like eight pages oh god do you act that's so annoying you do the skits and the sketches yeah and I hate when people call like

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Yeah, I, when you graduate Adler, they don't really give you like any career advice because you're just used to playing these alcoholics. Yeah. Nailing them. Nailing them. Wow. And so they send you across the street to one-on-one.

Do you know that place? Oh, yeah. Of course. One-on-one studios. It's on 27th. And they have casting director workshops. So you go to those. You have to learn how to do on camera. Right, right, right. Yeah, you learn how to do on camera. casting director workshops so you go to those you'd like

to learn how to do on camera right right you learn how to do on camera and like i would go to those and like cry and do those kind of things and they're like i we want to see your funny side um but yeah it wasn't until i like moved to la and just was like really lost that got into it how did you get into it um i my mom told me to do improv to find a guy so where did you go groundlings or ucb well i went to groundlings and i was like they're all gay yeah groundlings is pretty gay it's very gay it's my home it's my home yeah it's women and gays and like one straight guy from ohio well and he's probably wonderful yeah he is it's like literally indiana ohio everyone else is gay and women yeah it feels like the groundlings is gay it's very gay but, Ohio. Everyone else is gay and women. It feels like the

Groundlings is gay. It's very gay. But it's also, well, I shouldn't say this, but it's a little homophobic. Are they playing stock? Well, it's like, Drew Droege is like

my hero. Yeah, he's like my divine inspiration. I've loved him forever and he was not a Groundling, which blows my mind because I think he's

one of the most talented people of all time. He's amazing. Where did he come up again? For the longest time, I thought it was groundlings. He was groundlings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Oh, my God. And they, like, just this year are letting men play women. Like, it's just a slower game. Really? That's so interesting. But I like it there because all the teachers are women. Right.

Great. And gays. Perfect. And I like that. And UCB's, like, it kind of kept me in LA for a while because I felt like I could develop as like a female. Yeah, I hear that. I think that at UCB, it's only recently.

And when I say recently, I think in the last five or six years, it's become this place where it's like you see more than one queer person, gay person, more than one woman. Like now there's like a whole community large community of people in the new york scene that are like we're queer or like even just like you see more than you now i think is the only time and i think it did have a lot to do with having a female artistic director where the a lot most of the teams are half women half men yeah but that was not the case no no in la you'd like walk in and you'd be blinded by the plat you'd sort of like see like all this you'd see like the kids or whatever yeah or the converse and then the plat

and then you'd have to like look up because everyone was so tall yep it was like men yeah taking improv classes there i started in 2009 and it was like it was it was dicey it's already like it's already like um vulnerable and you're anxious taking an improv class. Because you don't know what you're doing. And then when everyone is a certain type of person, you're like, oh my god, oh my god, I'm gonna die. You know what's so interesting? I was talking to someone,

Maritza Montanez, she teaches UCB 101 now, she's great. But she was, I ran into her and I was catching up with her and she was like, yeah, I'm teaching classes now. And then she brought up something interesting where she was like it's interesting giving feedback to people in one-on-one

where they don't have the language yet like they don't have the language for you to say like oh you're not playing game this was off game like the only way

you can note these people at one-on-one is to be like hey that wasn't funny you know like you can't make a disabled joke because that's not funny. You can't make a disabled joke because that's not funny.

It's every scene. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And when people start out, they don't know how to not be offensive. Right, right. No, it's really true. Those are my treasure troves are those 101 classes.

Oh, God. Even 201. Yeah. In terms of your own stuff or watching other people? Watching other people. And I remember I had to repeat 201 for several,

I don't know, it took a while to get yeah sure and in la the people who take those classes are like business like yeah for so long it's no one who actually wants to do it which makes it so fun and funny so fun yeah like really old people oh yeah i i there's always the one like really outliery person yeah yeah yeah in new york in new york you mean well in any class i feel like there's always that one person you'll never forget yeah yeah there was there was like a glitch i was signing up for 401 i took 401 i was signing up for 401 i took 401 with doug moe okay and um it was like there was only eight people in the class due to a glitch. Wow.

And like, so that one guy was like in every scene. Because he just, by nature of it, we all did more scenes because there was only eight of us. And so it just became so overwhelming

that it was like, I don't know if I can do this. But it was just like, yeah, I don't know. It breathes weird. I don't miss being in classes. No. I never thrived there.

I was never the person that was like crushing it in class. That's, you don't want to be that. That's what I was at NYU. I crushed class and then failed at life for years.

Wow, interesting. That's a gross thing to, I crushed class. No, no, no, but that's the truth. That's a thing. You were like, the teacher likes me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would say I didn't love classes at UCB. I mean, they're great. They're necessary. But I would say that I was always a good student in class. And then in the outside world, I'd be like, whoa, I'm terrible at this. But I still have this weird thing with improv now. But anyway.

Yeah. I think that is such a good – i think that's such a rich like trajectory topography whatever for you because it's like topography it's just like i don't know you're just like evening that out in such a nice way where it like yeah but like re-equilibrates i don't know using all these big words yeah it comes in handy for like impressions yeah yeah like all those years of impressionista impressionista can we like get into this like we like i don't want to get too process oriented on this but like i have i have five beverages amazing she does have a solid five beverages on her oh my god so let's just talk about what we

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Impressionista. Yeah. So when did you discover you could do them and like... When I had to for submitting for some stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So really? Oh, submitting for some stuff. Yeah. So. So really. Oh, it was you had.

Yeah. Only when you had to discover you could do them. Yeah. Because at UCB, they're not allowed to. Right. And in your mod audition, you're not allowed to. And Groundlings, you're not allowed to. Oh, you're not allowed to in Groundlings either?

No. They encourage no impressions. No impressions. Characters welcome in mod. We were told to do it. Yeah. And I remember like in a class doing like Drew Barrymore or something and being like, oh, I guess I actually sound like her. That's crazy. That's literally crazy.

Flower films. Flower films. Flower films. Flower press. I can't do it. Crocs. Okay, but this is what I want to get into. What are the first little things

that you key in on or is it just more of a holistic thing where you just like learn the whole I think it depends I think like my brain was

washed because we had voice class for like three days a week at Adler and so I usually go to the voice first because I feel like

I'm like it's the only way I feel like I'm actually applying undergrad yeah yeah that's actually Kristen Wicks said the same thing they asked her about impressions really she said that really go to the voice first because I feel like I'm like, it's the only way I feel like I'm actually applying undergrad. Yeah. That's actually, Kristen Wicks had the same thing.

They asked her about impressions. Really? She said that she doesn't even watch videos of people necessarily at first. She listens to them. Oh, really? No, I watch. It's a lot of like mindless YouTube

and then kind of like finding what makes you laugh. Yeah. Like I just watch them until something they do makes me laugh. Yeah. Right. And then that,

because you have to have a take. Sure. Which I find hard. I find it easier just like be them. To just be them. Yeah. Like I just watch them until something they do makes me laugh. Yeah. Right. And then that, because you have to have a take. Sure. Which I find hard, I find it easier just like be them. To just be them? Yeah. Like, okay,

like with Gigi, for example. That was her voice, 100%. That was her voice. That was watching Vogue, 21 Questions, and being like,

what atrocious. Hey guys. Hey guys. Zion really likes pizza. And you're like, you look like a cat goddess and the voice of like a seven-year-old boy yeah it's crazy yeah no whatever it is and it's like kind of it's like she's from malibu and things aren't pronounced correctly and um yeah so i think my favorite that you do is nicoman in Big Little Lies

the wig is on point thanks that was you make me laugh that was pressure to submit a tape for something

wow and I was like I feel like I could do Big Little Lies and I and I locked myself I didn't have HBO

in my apartment so I drove to San Francisco what I was like man when I have a deadline I like get manic people do that same same same I feel like I notice in LA they're like I have a deadline, I like get manic. Yeah, yeah, same, same, same.

I feel like I noticed in LA, they're like, I have to write and they're like in a hotel somewhere. Everyone's like at the Madonna Inn. I understand it. Yeah, so I was like, I'm gonna go home. That's what I did.

Three days, like a day of it was in travel. I literally drove and just like watched it and yeah, her laugh made me laugh. I was like, we have a take. It's so funny with Nicole Kidman too

because like, stunning performance. Amazing performance. She's incredible but does she slip into her own accent often? Yes, honey. Yes.

She does, honey and you can't deny but you're still, I had that SAG ballot in my hands and I checked Nicole Kidman. There you go. There's no way way it's the scene

in the therapist's office it's like stunning it's absolutely I mean I have to go back and watch just that scene it's just that one scene

that was amazing the first one or the last one when they're together the therapist actress I forgot her name is incredible she was in

Angels in America I have to remember it she was in Deadwood she's like Angels in America the play or the HBO it. She was in Deadwood. She's like. Angels in America, the play or the HBO? The HBO thing. Who's she in the HBO? She was like one of the figurines in the museum that comes to life and talks to Harper.

Oh, I love those people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's amazing. She's amazing. But yeah, that therapist. Oh my God. Oh my God. No, I'm not accepting not knowing her name.

Aaron. I think it's Aaron. No. And the way she just like gently prods the questions Robin Weigert Robin Weigert oh that's it yeah yeah

she's tremendous one of the best she just played a fucking great therapist you know what I mean and Nicole and the way that

Nicole responds to Alexander in that scene amazing I also think Alexander Skarsgård he's amazing he deserves every award

he won for that he's amazing he deserves every award he won for that the show doesn't work without him being terrifying and terrible and you have to imagine that a lot of actors were like hesitant to do something like that because when you're too good at playing that it's like especially now it's like you know what I mean you get people are so stupid

they can't separate the two he's tremendous and then with okay and then with Hannah Gadsby oh that was that was voice and like that was like my friend Casey who I shardy party 69 yeah I love him yeah I love shardy shardy's the best

um we were like thinking of new ones to do and he's like I think you should take on Hannah like we treat it like a role like you treat it like a role yeah yeah yeah I think you should do Hannah yeah and that was really hard I had to watch her a lot and then even when we shot

the video the first 45 like we had like so many first takes of it and it was sounded like Emma Thompson doing an impression of oh

like it was just like a bad Emma Thompson impression yeah for so long I loved the backdrop you guys used it's her backdrop and like

the stool and one mic and then like, oh my God, it was so funny. We just do it for fun because finding the green screen, like finding the image

is honestly one of the most fun. Well, the fun of it really comes through. You know what I mean? It feels like Drew even. It feels like Drew doing a Chloe video. Drew is my divine inspiration.

He really is. He's carved the path. I mean, truly like Drew was one of these first people in, like, this modern, contemporary, whatever sense. Of internet comedy. Of internet comedy

where Matt and I were like, who is this? Yeah. Chloe was huge for us. Huge. Me too. Yeah. Me too.

And when I found out he taught at Groundlings, I, like, lost my shit. Yes, yes. And ran to his class. And he's a really intense teacher. Oh, sure. He barks and it's,

he's like, no, no. What did, no. Shit up, shut up, no. See, like, that. Oh, sure. He barks and he's like, no, no. No, shit up. Shut up. No. See, like that. I love that. That sounds similar than like any sort of

drama school Adler. It is. It totally is. I felt at home at Groundlings because the teachers are really like mean, but it's funny. In a way that is like,

that makes you want to do better where not in a very stressful way. I mean, it's stressful, but it's not as destructive as like someone at Adler being like I don't know well my first

like my first impression oh I'm being so gross but we're going there my very first impression was our Shakespeare teacher I have this acting teacher character

that's me just doing an impression of this old gay man who taught us Shakespeare who was like you have to grill a penis you have to grow a penis. You have to grow a penis.

He'd come up in your ear playing Lady Macbeth. You have to grow a penis. You have to grow a penis is the title of the book. You have to grow a penis. Make sure to write that down on HP. And then he'd be like, throw your pussy in the ring. And we were 18. And you're like, oh my god, throw your pussy in the ring. And we were 18.

Yeah. And you're like, oh, my God, a teacher's using the word pussy. Pussy. If you were doing Hamlet and I was Ophelia, he would ruffle your hair and then whisper in your ear, imagine she's sucking your cock. But that's like, that's Sling Blade. I know. I feel like it would not fly today.

Oh, never. But I loved it. No, I mean, the thing is like, impressions for me are the hardest. I am not good at them. So what I always do is I pick a take and it's kind of like we were watching. That's smart though.

That's like what you really should do. It has to have a take. Well, when it can be, when people can be like, oh my God, that was such a good impression. I think that's great. Those have to have takes too. and all of yours have strong takes but the thing is like like i see people like my rudolph i don't think is a good impressionist sure but she always has the funniest like her beyonce her beyonce is like you know it's a fine beyonce but for example we were watching her do omarosa from way back oh my god and it And it was not. She did Omarosa? Yes. Wait, that's problematic.

Am I wrong? No. Wait, is Maya Rudolph half black? Yes, she is. Oh, okay. Well, yep. But the thing is, it was like,

she did Maya Rudolph and she spoke in a voice that was like this. It was mid-Atlantic and it was so off the mark. Wait, it's Donald Trump. She must speak to Mr. Trump. Her mid-Atlantic stuff

is hilarious. It's so funny. She's so funny. You don't care that it's not a good Omarosa because it's so funny. But I remember in my JFL set, I had a Channing Tatum, and it's not a good Channing Tatum.

Did you dance? I danced a little bit. The game was that he's cripplingly insecure. He's mad that no one saw Jupiter Ascending. No, he's mad that no one saw Jupiter Ascending. No, he's furious that no one saw Jupiter Ascending and is very upset that people like him

for his body and not his acting. But that like, I actually think he's a really good actor. He's actually good. He's a really good actor. He's dropped in,

hawny. He's dropped right in. Hawny. He's Adler. No, but like, the thing is like, it's like for people that cannot do impressions

like myself, but can do original characters, it's like, you gotta gotta just like make sure you cover it up with like a fucking take because i mean i see people like you and people that can do impressions and i'm like jesus christ that's like a whole other fucking ball yeah yeah yeah yeah it's like it's so it's so but you your way you're talking about it it's like you do have to go about it the same way yeah you just you watch it a lot. Yeah. And like sometimes they're really bad until they're good.

There you go. That's what it is. You just break through the bad until it gets good. But then like the thing about Chloe is that she also just has like a good observational lens

in general. Like steering wheel acting I think is so funny. Oh that's the best. So good. Thank you. So good. You're the queen

of steering wheel acting. Thank you. You do it better than who does steering wheel acting for real? Well, okay. So it started, and honestly, it started with Annette

in American Beauty. Miss Benning. Yeah, there's like five accounts of it. Right. And then they do it in Big Little Lies a lot. Oh, yeah. They do lots of it. That's my favorite.

I want more! Yeah, that's my favorite scene. And that's when Nicole Kidman's like, and she does her like stop this thing yeah that's hand pause

that's steering wheel and then Elizabeth Moss did it in Handmaid's Tale yes so much she does it like four times yeah and that's this like

she has the wheel and she's like fuck fuck yes fuck fuck it's so good

it's so good there's just something it's so powerful and it's how you win awards like I really feel like it's gonna like it might get her another Emmy. I want it to go to Sandra Oh. We were talking about this. Me too.

I think it could go to Sandra and then one other person. I mean, Elizabeth Moss' performance is so undeniable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That it's like... But she doesn't talk. Well, it might be one of those things, though. The way Sandra Oh makes words come out of her. Oh, it's. I know that sounds really.

No, no. She's a prophet. She. The way, like I would never make those words come out. Yeah. Like they're so authentic and emotional. It's brand new every time. When I did the Sandra Oh lip sync, I was like, wow.

I know, I know. And I noticed it when you did that. She's doing, she's making a lot, like so many micro choices. Yeah, she's like, and the way that like so many micro choices yeah and the way that you felt felt yeah something

and then like yeah yeah the S's it's so delicious and then and then the end and that will never

happen again and also it's just like you read you look at just the words and you think wow if I got this

as an actor like what would I do it would be so different and so much worse. So much worse. It's just like, ugh. She's such fucking champion. She uses words.

Yeah, words that are played with. I gotta look up the other nominees because I feel like if it's not Elizabeth and if it's not Sandra, then it's someone else. I mean, nominations. Anyway, I don't know. It's a great year, though. There's a lot of steering wheel acting and sharp Objects, but I find that show hard to... Hard to watch because it's a little triggering. Well, it's like I would watch it eating breakfast

and then be like... It's not good. It's slow. And I love Amy Adams. I do, too. I'm obsessed with her. I do, too. Not that much in this, though.

It's a tough one for me, too. It's tough. What do we got? Claire Foy, I think. Because it's in this though. It's a tough one for me too. It's tough. What do we got? Claire Foy, I think. Because it's her last season. She's outstanding. It's her last season as Elizabeth. They're talking about

Ms. Claire Foy for the Supporting Actress Oscar. First Man. The first reviews of First Man. Oh, Dagan Chazzo. Because now Venice is happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so now we have

all the first reviews of the big Oscar movies. So First Man got reviews. Some people are raving. Some people not. Star is Born, the reviews have come out and they're all very positive really yeah they're saying it's actually a sleigh and a half really yeah i gotta work on that lady god you must work on the lady god um first of all she's giving you so much material just in that in that scene alone when he's like i just want to take another look at you there was so much material just in that scene alone when he's like, I just want to take another look at you.

There was so much material in her Netflix special. Oh, she's giving you material for eons. And then what else? You know what movie I heard is good? There's a movie coming out with Rachel Weisz, Emma Stone, and Olivia Colman called The Favorite. Oh, that looks really good. It's the same lobster guy? Yorgos Lanthimos.

Oh, great. Olivia Colman's in it? Olivia Colman plays like a queen. Great. And Emma Stone, and I guess Rachel Weisz is like just under her. And then Emma Stone plays like the new servant that they hire.

Okay. Or something like that. Like someone new to like this estate. Gorgeous. And it's like a comedy, like a sort of comedy of manners. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And rave reviews.

And they're saying that Emma Stone is phenomenal in it. She's good. She's good. She's really good. I think she's really talented. She is very, very. And she seems like a good,

and she's a good person. Yeah. She seems like a good person. Yeah, no, for like from people who like, whatever, peripherally know her, everyone's just like,

she's just like a solid human being. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And don't they call her like, Emmy or, I don't know. Em, Emmy. Emmy. Um.

Ma. Emily. Ma. Emily. Um, Chloe, I think we should ask you the question we ask all of our guests. I think we gotta ask this question. don't they call her like Emmy or I don't know M Emmy M Ma Emily Ma Chloe I think we should ask you the question we ask all of our guests I think we gotta ask this question and we like screened this

for you earlier oh no let's see if I say the same thing and you were self-conch but I believe you should know this is a great choice okay so and you can change your answer

if you want no I'll stick to the image okay cool Chloe what is the culture that made you say culture is for me that defining pop culture that made you say culture is for me that defining pop culture that made you say wow i might be forming into a person due to this the miseducation of lauren hill i love

wow and i love this just celebrated its 20th anniversary which is insane insane that's insane okay so then what are you okay so then let's let's dive into this so i'm from berkeley yeah and um like white people don't listen to white people Yeah Yeah And I was just like I As a

I've always been the person Where they're like You have more phases Than the moon But the miseducation I was like No no this is me And I was wearing

And I started wearing Like Ross Safari Oh my god It was so I was just like Little misappropriate I just was appropriating Everything I possibly could

Sure sure sure But like really felt Like smoked weed For the first time Ah I was just like little misappropriating everything I possibly could. But like really felt it, like smoked weed for the first time. But it all came from this earnest place. Yeah, of like womanhood and hip hop. And it was like the first time I really had a crush on somebody. Wow. Yeah, Andrew GK. That's a good one.

Yeah, it was associated with like, I'm going to listen to this music and I'm going to flirt with this guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, it was, it was that music that kicked in just as you were kind of

becoming a person. Yeah. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was for me, Mariah.

Black Street was like around that same time. Yeah, wow, wow, wow, wow. Was it like,

was it Fuji's leading into? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When I bought the Fuji's out, it was like all at that same time, especially the Fuji's.

Wow. I mean, that album. I mean, yeah, they're the best. But there's something still to this day like when, oh my God, Doo Up, that thing comes on. You're like, wow, this is unique.

You'll never hear it again. You'll never hear it again. Yeah. Although I really like hip hop right now. This new like lady hip hop that's coming through. Do you know Tierra Whack? You gotta check her out. She just released this.

I know you like Jungle Pussy because I see you love Jungle Pussy. And I deeply love you for that. Jungle Pussy, yeah. There's some like hints of Lauryn Hill. A little bit. Someone points at Lauryn.

Yeah. But y'all should check out Tierra Whack. She's this like 25-year-old girl from Philly. Wait, I think I was just listening. Did she do a thing with Kanye? I don't know if she did

do a thing with Kanye. I think she's great. Wait, I think I was just listening. Did she do a thing with Kanye? I don't know if she did do a thing. I think she's like someone she like people like people like people love her like all like the hip hop like higher ups like. Oh, see that's when you know. That's when you know but like so she basically put out this visual album and

all the tracks are a minute long and it's 15 songs so it's a 15 minute visual album. Oh, cool. And you listen to it in 15 minutes. And it's all like wonderful little like vignettes of melodies. And you're like, oh, these are really good. That's a cool way to do it. T-I-E-R-R-A.

Over here, I was listening to Tiana Taylor. Oh, Tiana's great. My co-star in the after party. Wait, what? She's in the after party? Yes, bitch. I'm obsessed. I have two scenes in this Netflix movie. Really? And she's like in it. She's in it? Oh, my God bitch. I'm obsessed. I have two scenes in this Netflix movie and she's in it.

She's in it? Oh my God. I was just walking past the brick like living. Oh my God. She's amazing. People are really into her.

She was really, really, really good. She was super excited when they found out she was going to be in the movie. You listen to Work This Pussy, right?

No. Bitch, you're going to pop your genitals. I'm going to pop my pussy. You're going to pop your pussy to Work This Pussy. She came up because I was listening

to City Girls do you know City Girls no they have this song called Period it's like the best song I've ever heard

the women are coming back yes they are and it's not this thing where it's like oh there are no female MCs no they're here and they're huge

I feel like Lizzo they should just have a concert where it's all it's just like Lizzo and Princess Nokia and Jungle Pussy Okay Princess Nokia people are like turning on her Everyone's turning on her because she did that alternative album

Oh Is that sort of the way it goes like You're not allowed to do anything different I love her I think she's very talented People are turning on Doja Cat now Yes Cause she tweeted this thing out of nowhere Where she was like

What did she say? She was like, am I homophobic if I use the word faggot when I was in high school? I would just call people faggot. Faggot, faggot, faggot. She's playing an Azalea thing. I didn't see that. She's doing an Azalea thing.

Although Azalea, how do you feel about Azalea? Because I feel like she's one of those people where... I love Azalea Banks. Sorry. I kind of love Azalea Banks too. Because her talent sort of transcends the insanity. Yeah. And her being... transcends the insanity. Yeah.

And her being, her whole thing with Elon Musk, I cannot believe. It's so fucking funny. It's so fucking funny. The fact that she called Grimes a Pabst beer pussy

is genius. Genius. If we all knew, if we all knew Azalea Banks, she would leave rooms and we would say, that bitch is so crazy, but so funny. Matt and I pulled up the video

where she called that flight attendant a faggot. And it's hilarious. Well, first of all, we have to say something. That flight attendant was a faggot. Stop. I'm sorry, but... Come for me. I'm a faggot too.

I just want to repeat the way she says it cause it's no she goes no it's not that she goes it's deep it's like she drops like the draw is more slack fucking fag she says it from her soul but the thing is like

here's the thing fucking fag let's paint a picture in our heads of what this is we hear about the way that some of these flight attendants

treat people we hear about fucking racism we hear about misogyny you're gonna tell me Azalea Banks being who she is so I would see

to her plane maybe she's being a little extra that doesn't mean you fucking not you're blocking her on the plane and you're not

letting her have her bag look she shouldn't have said it yeah but also at the end of the day like what the hell why are you abusing her yeah yeah yeah just let her get off the plane

then we don't have to deal with it at all this is all to say Treasure Island this track that she came out with like a month ago yes it's so good

it's so good that's the thing her music is so good it's so good her music is crazy good it's so good it's crazy good and what are you gonna do

like you're gonna be mad at her for speaking truth to power? No. I have to, I'm sorry. I have to read, I think, my favorite tweet of all time. I just, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Am I a problematic fave for saying that? No.

No, not at all. I also, I used to see her in downtown LA a lot. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Just like, and she'd be eating eggs eggs at the ace I why I was at the ace hotel downtown LA I don't know I like weird I live down I live down there and I thought that I would have this life where I like I get up and I go to the hotel yeah people do it here I see it in New York all the time that's where I like that because it's right by Adler right I thought I

would live that hotel is is where we watch drag race yeah well when that when now that it's on Thursdays we can't when it's not packed in those cou, yeah, yeah. Really? Now that it's on Thursdays, we can't because they have something else. When it's not packed in those couches, it's gorgeous and it's cozy. It's the best. It's very cool. And it's productive. And it's a great place for a little nightcap.

Yeah, she'd always have these eggs and these crazy nails and I'd see her and she'd look up and I'd be like, I love you, I love you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just freak out. I mean, her music is no joke.

No joke. Can I just read this? My favorite tweet of all time. I think I've read this to you. Jace. This was back in, this was right after Anna Wintour came out.

So this is recent. She goes, and this was right after Nicki Minaj wore a mermaid tail in a music video and then Azealia freaked out. It's like, people are copying me,

all this stuff. Well, she's not. So, I mean, sure. As she goes, LOL, female rap is a mess today, yet I'm still the most original, talented, and the most skinny,

all caps, drinking my skinny watermelon teeny, staring from the kitchen window as I watch the raccoons scrounge for art in my garbage bins. Oh my god. That's an artful tweet. Come on, that's amazing. It's amazing. She's amazing.

Although Jungle Pussy's pretty skinny. Jungle Pussy's great. Yeah. Jungle Pussy's amazing. I think... She has these great, she had this whole thing about how to make

like a skin potion. I like her because she's like healthy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like a healthy. She's a healthy rapper about like she butter and lemongrass.

I love. She'll give you lifestyle tips. Yeah, I took her lifestyle tips. Do you, wait, did you, have you listened to LaKali 47? No. Oh.

Yes, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So good. So good. Yeah, yeah. Wait, there's a there's a new one handbags oh i haven't listened to that that's really good oh my god oh yeah all the time all the time she's amazing that's my i listen to when i like get on a plane yes and i feel no fear that's great playing so hip-hop is your genre absolutely yeah yeah and it started with the miseducation of yes okay let's talk about this because my mom was like you can play play this. I like this. Oh. So it was mama approved.

Mama approved. So I could listen to it all the time in the car. Yeah. It's an incredible album. X Factor, Doo-Wop. God.

Still one of the most successful albums of all time. Sure. And even that bonus track, You're Just Too Good To Be True. Yeah. Whatever it is. And it came out

like when Sheryl Crow's CDs were coming out. So it just felt like. It was not that space filled. You're true. Yeah. Whatever it is. And it came out like when Sheryl Crow CDs were coming out. So it just felt like there was not that space filled. You're right. It was Lilith Fair. Yeah. It was Lilith Fair.

It was Sarah McLachlan. Yeah. Sheryl Crow. Well, you had like Lilith Fair happening and then you had like pop divas happening. And then you had Lauren Hill

because that was also so true. That was also it was Lilith Fair. It was you. You were either a woman. You had a guitar or you had a guitar.

Yeah. Or you had a big, big voice where you riffed the house down. Right. Right. Or you were a pop princess. Yeah. And then there was like this space. And I think like just even Lauryn Hill like singing and also rapping was like, oh, wait, let's pivot and let's look at this too.

And then like it's true. Like there is this like world of hip hop like, it's true. Like, there is this, like, world of hip-hop that I feel was exposed. Yeah. God. I mean, speaking of... One of the best singers ever, too. Totally.

Like, Lauren is this other, like, very mystifying figure where it's like, you don't really know what to make of her because there just seemed to be all of these prickly things that happened in her career. Right. Like, she came to Oakland, I remember, and, like, didn't perform a concert

because there was too many white people. Oh sure. But I like respect I don't know I kind of respect that. Classically always late. I've heard that she's

not the most pleasant person but when you have that talent it's like it's so hard to negotiate. She did a cover not too long like a year ago

that was on Facebook. Oh uh huh uh huh. Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah it was like an event yeah an event where she performed for the first time in a while

and I I mean it chills like her voice is insane you put up with people's bullshit when you know you're gonna get a certain desired result

I agree you just do yeah right but it's like there's no like mathematical way to like figure that out it's like Aretha Franklin

saying hi there can be no air conditioning yeah yeah yeah you turn the air conditioning off but she's right when the queen rose there's no like mathematical way to like figure that out. It's like Aretha Franklin saying, hi, there can be no air conditioning. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You turn the air conditioning off when the queen rolls. Yeah, but she's absolutely right.

With, with Lauren Hill though. Oh, I just want to, I used to do this joke when like the, the, the handful of times I would do stand up. I,

that I do it. Um, but I talk about going to this Beyonce concert with Brittany. You remember Brittany? Hi, Brittany Holloway Brown, if you're listening. Um, Oh yeah, I remember when you went to, but I'll,? Hi, Britney Holloway Brown, if you're listening. Oh, yeah.

I remember when you went to. But I'll be like, I'll be like, I am. I'll be like, yes, Britney came with me. And Britney is like the Lauryn Hill of being late to things. And I am the Lauryn Hill of hating white people. I thought that was a fun joke. That's really funny. It would like get such a mixed reaction.

Oh, I think that's hilarious. Anyway. But Lauren is. Yeah. So Lauren, I feel like what just came out recently? a fun joke that's really funny it would like get such a mixed reaction really oh yeah anyway um but lauren is yeah so lauren i feel like what what just came out recently someone some producer someone on miseducation or some close collaborator of hers like called her out in this essay and was like she's like i don't know she doesn't have good relations with people i i think because she's not you know she's a tough person to deal with i don't know i just feel like a lot of money tied up in that album too is a thing. Totally.

And I feel like if all is right in the world, we get one more piece of great work out of her. That's what I'm hoping for. Not that we're demanding things, but it's just I would want that. Yeah, it's in there. It is crazy because even... Really, it's nuts that really from her,

it was her work with the Fugees and then that album and then there's really hasn't been what I mean nothing it's like other people that put out like iconic pieces of work

like they've followed up like you know what I mean right right right Alanis Morissette there's Jagged Little Pill yeah and then it's almost like you don't even remember

anything else but there are other albums right right Christmas albums yeah Christmas albums oh my god Lauryn Hill should release

a Christmas album she had an acoustic album that came out really she did an MTV Unplugged acoustic and it's beautiful like it's just beautiful

I live for that love that I also live for her performance in fucking Sister Act 2 back in the habit yes and Cheryl Lee Ralph

was the mother yes so proud she's just so iconic and like her fashion at the time she's so beautiful those music videos are like timeless fashion at the time, she's so beautiful.

Those music videos are like timeless. Yes. Even now, even when she like did that little video where she like did an acoustic cover of Doo-Wop, like she just wore this giant brimmed hat and looked incredible. Incredible. Yeah, I love it. You have not aged. I also heard that in concert, she rarely does the same arrangement twice. Like she's always like rearranging things.

Like she's like, it has to be different. It has to be... Her instincts must be followed at all times. Her band is good enough to change. Wow. Because she has, of course, the best and the best working for it. She is a musical genius. Probably if someone were not perfect, she could just fill them a look and they'd be gone.

Okay, you know what? This is the thing that is solidifying all this for me, is that she is a musical genius. And you can't... And that is the thing that you know what this is the thing that like is solidifying all this for me is that she is a musical genius yeah and like you can't and that is the thing that you weigh against all the other behavioral stuff

virtuosic virtuosica and the I think the issue is that like a lot of people will have that behavior but without the talent sure

totally oh yeah that's like yeah and they and people put up with even them yeah

is it as popular in comedy? Yes, in the Lady Gaga Netflix thing where she's getting massaged every other take and weeping with her soul. I'm like, are you in that much pain? I'm not one of those massagers. I guess I choose to believe that she actually is because like...

Yeah. That's a lot. What does that mean? Yeah, it was a lot. She's like a ranting, raving crazy. I mean, just to weep all day

and just have somebody like, like, like just working here. And there's like four, like sometimes I'm sure she has like three masseuses. Yeah. She's just like slowly weeping.

I mean, that was so iconic for me. That's the take though for you. I know. I did. And then, and then I felt like the time went too far. Sure.

Just bring it back. I mean, that's, I have like a lot of impressions that are not relevant but I kind of want to just put those on. But I think if they're good enough sometimes it doesn't really matter. I think people do like to see a good impression even if it comes out. That's what I did with

the steering wheel Annette thing. I was like this is a 20 year old movie but like I have a Bill Paxton that I love but it's not relevant but I've been talked out of putting it in my submissions and reels I love. Yeah, it's so good. But it's not relevant. But I've been talked out of putting it in my submissions and reels and stuff like that. It's so good. But the thing is, I see these straight guys doing these fucking throwback impressions and no one cares.

They do it all the time. All the time. All the time. Straight men, where is their brain? I don't know. I see it in stand-up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're talking about Caddyshacks still? No, I know. I see it in stand-up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, you're talking about Caddyshack still?

No, I know. I know. That's the thing. It's just interesting to me because it's like, oh, man. You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The bar's different. Oh, babe, it's a different bar. Do it. I had to fucking pull a Michiko Kakutani impression at my ass. Who cares what

the references are? Right. I mean, look, as long as it's good, it's good. That's the thing that really matters better rather than timely I've done some bad timely stuff

there you go yeah because you feel like you have to you have to rather than do something like of the past right right right right I mean look I'm gonna whip out all my stalwart you have no idea how good this Bill Paxton is and then he passed away and it was like oh no I know

but it's a very good it was based on the twister attraction at Universal Studios oh my god so he's in the in the twister attraction pre-show or Dealey Departed

that ride no longer exists I know he just is standing there in the craziest stance just talking about how a twister is the worst thing you can go through

and laugh it's got the force of a he's just like truly and the way his body is positioned It's the funniest wooden performance

ever of anyone. I talked about it on Podcast The Ride coming to Forever Dog Network. A new acquisition. It's a really good podcast. I'll give it a plug. It's a really good podcast

where every single time they have a different guest and I talk about a different theme park attraction. And I'm a theme park bitch. Oh you are? I am. Do you fuck with Coney Island then? I fuck deeply with Coney Island I'm jealous

of you because you're going there today right after that that's great I fuck deeply with it I've done that cycle on a couple times really I'm just I think I might go tonight do it you gotta do it one ride just do do the cyclone feel your Beyonce XO fantasy and yeah that's one reason to do it when they go upside down. Oh, no, no. Cyclone doesn't go upside down. Cyclone is wood and it's all... Oh, I like the old like you could die one.

Yeah, you might die on it. You might die. You might. But the thing is to die on an iconic coaster. I mean, that's an iconic coaster. It'd be amazing.

An amazing death. I hope that one day I'm on it and it just flies off the tracks and I go, you love me like XO! And I like deeply die. Go right into the ocean and i go you love me like xo and i like deeply die go right into the ocean

and i'm like and you die in a ball of fire and i die like beyonce um chloe i am just this sounds so obnoxious oh here we fucking go no no the day that someone does the chloe feinman impression what happens then that that is that's a snake eating its own tail. In Groundlings, they'd always do these things where they'd teach characters their impressions and they'd be like, let's do someone in the class. And they would always be like,

do Chloe. And it's always somebody going like this. I don't know what the impression would be. I think an impression of me would be so insulting. It would be someone screaming. It would be I think an impression of me Would be so insulting No It would be someone screaming It would be what you literally just did Like

See what I mean Can I do Can I Please do an impression No no no no no no no Do an impression I was gonna do an impression of you But can I ask a stupid question

Always Where Would it make sense If you were to ever Do an impression of yourself Of myself That's so stupid I don't know

It doesn't work it doesn't work i mean i know that like uh forever i like in school i i was they were always like stop smiling while you talk northern california like because we kind of like talk like this and i don't know i talk out of the side of my mouth a lot like Like that was just how I grew up talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It would probably be like, she's being inappropriate and her dad's mad. You know, I don't know. I don't think I could do

an impression of Bowen Young just because I'm around you too much. I'm around you too much to ever do one of you. Really? It's the closeness. We don't have the critical distance. I don't have anyone call me out.

I would appreciate it. Oh, let me call you out. Or like, I always make fun of my friends and do impressions of them. Oh, got it, got it, got it. I don't feel like I've ever had. Well, because Chloe, like you, like I would appreciate it. Oh, let me call you out. Or like, I always make fun of my friends and do impressions of them. Oh, got it, got it, got it. I don't feel like I've ever had. Well, because Chloe, like you,

like I've seen you answer questions, like yes or no questions with like sounds and like physicality. So like, like you're like, like. Yeah, see,

it is not like. But like, I'm saying like, that's not me doing an impression of you, but I'm saying that's you like going to that place defaultly in your mind which is like so inspired

and like oh like that's like that's where it all comes from is like thinking in those terms of like yeah it's just very like it's just like Chloe being like yeah it was very oh yeah yeah oh animated yeah because I'm animated it was weird too because like Melissa V did a Jenny Slate impression on Instagram

Jenny didn't like it she didn't like it she didn't smash maybe she will smash the like button but I was just like oh that's so interesting to like do someone

like I don't know Jenny Slate's like so iconic but to do another comic is like is interesting I found that interesting it's close yeah Melissa does

Whitney Cummins she's really good she's so good and Sarah Silverman she does comedian impressions she does Sarah Silverman those are all so good. And Sarah Silverman. She does comedian impressions. Yeah, she does Sarah Silverman. Those are all really easy. I mean, Sarah Silverman,

I feel like that's like she has a state of manner of being which is like you. Like it's like Jim Carrey. The take is already there. You know what I mean? Jim Carrey, it's like and he does so many like iconic things.

That's why I don't do Amy Schumer. Right. But also because I saw someone do it online. I think she's friends with you guys. She's in New York. She did an Amy Schumer that was like flawless. Really? And when someone does that, I don't touch it. Like I think she's friends with you guys. She's in New York. She did an Amy Schumer that was like flawless. Really?

And when someone does that, I don't touch it. Like Chelsea Davidson's Lena Dunham. I was like, I'm never going to do Lena Dunham. That's very cool that you have such respect for that to not want to go near it. That's why no one does a Paxton. I fucking crushed a Paxton. It is on my old character reel, which is on YouTube. Wow, wow wow wow

I mean maybe that'll change but for now it's definitely like oh I can't go there that's wonderful that is like the platonic ideal for the craft of just having that respect for other people sacred beach sacred beach I think it's time I don't think so honey

did you not remember I never put it all together but now we're here don't worry now we I don't think so honey yes oh my god did you not remember I never put it all together but now we're here don't worry now we're here we'll go first so that you have some time to think

okay great or if you cannot think of something we can draw from the trouble for you I actually have a good one okay you do so this is Matt Rogers'

I don't think so honey his time starts now I don't think so honey Starbucks when you say pumpkin spice is back have the ingredients ready to make pumpkin spice

because let me tell you something when you say pumpkin spice is back guess who's gonna be the first fucking person in line honey me the bitch and when i step up and order pumpkin spice in a venti frappuccino form and then i have to wait 20 minutes for it honey i'm not a happy customer and i don't think so honey when i have a fucking full conversation with the employee and we both say how excited we are about pumpkin spice and how you know we're not basic we're just living our life because it's good and then this same young woman

is having a hard time finding the ingredients it's like honey you posted it up on the chalkboard you posted it up on the commercials let's get ready with the pumpkin spice oh my god you had the audacity to advertise everyone pumpkin spice and back. I'm going to come.

I'm here. So give me a pumpkin spice. I'm waiting on. And you know that I'm busy, honey. It's New York. I need my pumpkin spice right now, honey. And that's one minute. I'm just saying, like, if you're going to get me all up in tis about pumpkin, do you

like pumpkin spice? I don't. You know what? I'm back on the cycle of liking it again. But I think I should and I'd be a more whimsical person. No, no, no. Don't worry about it. I don't think I should have gotten a venti.

Yeah. But I do love. Yeah, that's like a lot. So much. You know what? It was so much. I feel like I liked it and then you overdo it because it becomes like in everything. Totally.

I want to make myself feel better after a stressful situation. And so then I went and got my pumpkin spice and I was like, oh yes. And honestly, here's the thing. It's actually a rule of culture. You never actually want a large. Say it with me.

You never actually want a large. You always want a medium, bitch. Or a grande, if you will. You just, you never need that much volume or something. I swear to God we were in Penn Station the other day me and I swear to God you were. Yeah. Was I with you? No. Oh I

think I was with my sister. Okay what'd you do? Oh yeah I was with my sister and I went to go get a smoothie and I was like I'll have a large without looking at the sizes and they were like are you sure you want a large? And then I looked over and I went to go get a smoothie and I was like, I'll have a large without looking at the sizes and they were like, are you sure you want a large? And then I looked over and I swear to God,

the large was this big. They downsold. It was crazy. I was like, oh my God, no, I want a small which is like a fucking bucket.

They downsold it. That's crazy. They never do that. Because even they were human beings and could tell that I wasn't going to finish this. But you guys, you never want a large.

You never want a large. Even if they tell you it's 50 cents to finish this. But you guys, you never want a large. You never want a large. Even if they tell you it's 50 cents more. Well. And then they get you in the movie theaters too. They do. Do you want to make that a large for a dollar more? I mean, yeah. No, it's a waste.

Oh, I always say no. Are you a popcorn kind of individual? Yeah, when I'm not like dieting. There you go. We always say, I tell you the rule of culture, popcorn doesn't count. Popcorn is air

and this is Bowen Yang's I don't think so honey he thinks he has one I think so and his time starts now I don't think so honey anyone who has not seen the Teddy Perkins episode of Atlanta I just saw it last night and I granted I am four and a half months late it is one of the best episodes of television I've ever seen in my life it is so bizarre

viscerally upsetting and funny and funny and tragic and I don't know. This is not the most interesting. I don't think so, honey, but I'm saying everyone has to watch this now. Even if you are not familiar with the show, although context does help, Lakeith Stanfield turns out an amazing performance.

What a beautiful actor, beautiful person. Hunky, hunker, hunker. I love Lakeith Stanfield. Love Lakeith. 30 seconds. He's like the kooky crazy guy in the whole show, but to see him play straight man against Donald Glover in whiteface is truly stunning.

Wow. I will never forget this episode of television. I have to go back and watch it. There's a scene with an ostrich egg. 15 seconds. I won't spoil it, but it is the most viscerally upsetting thing I've ever seen in my life,

and I wanted to throw up. Alex, do you know what I'm talking about? Have you seen this? You have to watch it. It's so good. Five seconds. Get thee to a funnery and watch the Teddy Perkins episode of Atlanta. And that's one minute. Less than I don't think so, honey and more just a statement of

appreciating a television show. And that's okay. And that's okay. And you know what? And that's okay. And that's okay. It's whatever you want to make it. I haven't seen that episode, so that was an I don't think so honey on me. Oh, you need, have you watched any of Atlanta? It's on my list.

Yeah. You would fucking stand for Zazie Beetz. You would. I'm sure I would. Oh, she's fabulous. Do you watch Atlanta? I have a crush on Donald Glover. Yeah, you should watch it.

He's so good. I should run to watch it. He is in Whiteface. He plays this eccentric billionaire type of person and my god he's incredible well it's it's truly insane this episode anyway so now we have someone to do

and I don't think so honey that has previously subverted the form by doing her I don't think so honey on Greta Gerwig and as Greta Gerwig I know I could do it as another person I could do

but I maybe I won't but listen we're gonna find out right now and this is Chloe Feyn but maybe I won't. But listen, we're going to find out right now. And this is Chloe Fineman's I Don't Think So Honey. Her time starts now. Okay, I Don't Think So Honey, white man who says

he cannot get through Nanette. Four guys be like, I tried to watch it, but like, I don't know. I only lasted 30 minutes. The whole point of Nanette is the 30 minutes that come after

your fragile male ego that cannot stand her. First of all, the first half is hilarious. There's teacups and salsas and all sorts of jokes. And the fact that you can't even get past that because everything has to be catered to you and your dick humor.

Go fuck yourself. Go fuck yourself. The fact that you don't get it or you find her boring or it's like not... Get out of your fucking comfort zone. You're never going to learn. Open your eyes and your ears. I cannot stand, I cannot stand

because you don't find her attractive or something. That is why. It's really why. You don't like gay jokes. You're never going to, you're never going to expand. You're never going to be woke

and you can't mansplain Nanette to me, which is ultimately what you probably want to be able to do. It's funny because, five to do it's funny because five seconds it's funny because I just thought it was boring

like I don't know I didn't really get it I didn't really get it and you know what 100% we've actually talked about this a bunch but the thing is like

you guys yeah it's just not it is for you and it's just not for you to explain it's not for you to explain it has

yeah like two I came yeah three guys since being in new york were like yeah that i tried to watch it god and like why bring that in can you just compliment your fucking impression and also like it really gets good if you keep watching yeah i mean but she's really a fine wine that she met yes you're talking you mentioned something that i think is very astute which is the fact that you know because they can't and don't fuck her or like they have no desire to do that because she's not for them or like she's not presenting herself sexually for them like there is a block there yeah it's such a thing and the thing about and

there's even some backlash i think think, from even like weird places. Like, I think I've heard queer people be like, I don't know. Or just people be like, is it comedy, though? It's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Like, you're not going to be the one to like define the parameters of what this is. I know. And if this is hurting the form. No. Are you kidding me?

No. You're going to be the person who died and made you king. Like, I don't understand the backlash behind sex aside. I don't understand the backlash behind people saying, well, it's not comedy. But it absolutely, the first 30 minutes, which I kept rewatching for the stupid impression, is hilarious. It's so funny. Joke after joke after joke.

But then she brings it all back together towards the end where it's like, oh, this is a masterfully done piece. But even if it weren't funny in the way that like people need it to be you cannot be the gatekeeper of someone going on a stage and performing art like that's just that's what this is you guys you know that's what we all do you go up there you get a reaction the way that you can yeah and and if you don't understand that reaction or aren't giving that reaction the way other people are or couldn't get that reaction in that same way that doesn't mean it's bad or aren't giving that reaction the way other people are or couldn't get that reaction in that same way that doesn't mean it's bad or doesn't deserve

a place it just means it's different and there should be more different kinds of art I think that's what's killing people is that they don't see it in that narrow way that they've had to come up or they've told they were told is the way you succeed so it's like how could this person be succeeding I also am like really

inspired by her thing to not have to self deprecate absolutely I never even thought about that I never thought about it until she like

it's so true it's true did you run into her a million times at JFL I saw her order something and I was scared I was genuinely like starstruck

I was like we were in an envelope we were in an elevator with her and we didn't even I would have lost my shit I was like I can't believe how i am

not like that's what's so cool about jfl yeah tiffany haddish came out of an elevator in a ball gown yeah faint jesus i would have sparkly red ball gown it was crazy to all be sharing the same space with people like that yeah it's so so crazy um but just the fact that she was like treated poorly there i just she was? Oh I did not hear Like stand ups Like she got heckled At this show that Lisa Trager hosted Her own gala

She was heckled at her gala? By who? What's that? Whom? And fucking Lisa Trager hosted this other show that she was on And then the comic who went up after her was like Yeah Hannah Gaspi hasn't said a fucking funny Trager hosted this other show that she was on and then the comic who went up after her was like yeah

Hannah Gadsby hasn't said a fucking funny thing in her life like ew I can't and he's proving her whole fucking point

heckle culture needs to end coming I've been at three stand up shows this week here and everyone is heckling ew really

I never see it I'm in such a bubble I'm not in like my I'm not in the bubble that I feel safe in but these like straighty shows yeah heckling heckle city I hate that if they were heckling um do you know I'm not in the bubble that I feel safe in, but these straighty shows. Heckling. Heckle City. I hate that. They were heckling.

Do you know Yedoya? Yeah. I love him. He was hosting. They were heckling him. Oh my God. And then this guy would heckle, and then this girl would turn around and high-five him. Oh, well, have fun going back to whatever the fuck Morris town you've come from. And I really was so tempted to just be like,

why don't you get on stage? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, sure, sure. It's a classic thing. Yodoye Travis, truly the most unimpeachable comedian out there. So likable. So great. So great.

Let's say hot. Hot as shit. He's so hot. He knows I think he's hot. Oh, he's posted thirst traps where he's sure it loves. Oh, yeah. He's a carpenter. One time I went up after him at a set, and my whole first minute of my set was how hot you know it was so hot so hot and just the nicest

person yeah i lingered after the show and was like hey yeah how are you i thought that was really good yeah that was good i'm just here for a little while so obvious like i'm actually just here for a couple days yeah um how's new york cool cool where do you live? Yeah. Oh, cool. He also has a tattoo that I shouldn't, well, whatever. He has a tattoo that he said was a wolf but looks like a Shiba Inu.

That's a great conversation to start with. I love that. You know what? Talk about it at the wedding. Bring it up at the wedding. Bring it up at the wedding. Wow.

What a fun episode. We love. We love. This was great. So is there anything coming up for you? People can see you? Do you have any shows coming up in the la-la? No.

Follow her on Chloe is crazy. It's all on the net. Or you're crazy for not. You're crazy for not following Chloe is crazy. Truly. How about that bitch? How about that bitch? Someone, we love you so much.

I love you guys. I really do. We're coming out. Listen, this is a love fest. This is a love fest. And that's what we love. That's what we love you so much i love you guys i really do now listen this is a love fest this is and and that's what we love that's what we love and that actually leads into the song that is gonna sing we're gonna sing and we're gonna you know end on a song when you love you love Chloe and that's a song we need to start singing

we can't do the Garth and Kat thing I think we need to do can I tell you what I've been listening to a lot because our last episode was exclusively about her what Avril Lavigne wait and I really don't like Avril Lavigne but I'm gonna have to sing this song Here we go Did you think that I was gonna give it up to you

Mr. Di-i-i-i Did you think that I was Something that I was gonna do And cry Don't try to tell me What to do Don't try to tell me what to say You're better off that way

Yeah This guilt trip that you put me on Won't mess me up I've done no wrong I don't know the rest I don't know the rest at all And then it goes Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

And then the chorus again We love Avril Well, that's the song we're closing out on this episode We love you We love Chloe Like, subscribe, listen, review. And leave comments. Bye.

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