Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "You Shook Gaga" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: October 25, 2023

Bowen is a little sickstress this week, so he's invited Matt to his new home to record an episode of Las Cultch and contract whatever he has. Stanley cups in hand, the two discuss, well, pop cultural topics! "Such as?" you ask? Well, Chappell Roan and Troye Sivan's latest albums, RHONY, the "sweeps" TV culture of yesteryear, and an oversaturation of the espresso martini. Also, Bowen MET LADY GAGA, Matt has a haunted weekend in Long Island at the Chambers of Hell, and BOWEN MET LADY GAGA. All this, handwriting vs. typing, earnestness vs. earnesty, a live pop songwriting session, and the naming of the Actress of the Millenium. More like OCTOBER flush and OUR flannel cure (the flannel being this episode). Bye! Bonus episodes are available early for subscribers to Big Money Players Diamond on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/lasculturistas.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Look, man. Oh, I see. Wow. Look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong.

Las Culturistas calling. This actually is another in the series of recording at homes. Recording at homes. I wonder what that's about. It's cozy. It's fall. Happy Scorpio season, my sister. Oh, my gosh.

We're in Bowen's house and it's Scorpio season. You kind of have the floor. What do you want to say? I say everyone dress in all dark colors. Everyone shoplift a little. Yes. Fuck your boss. Just kidding. Don't do any of those things. Especially not wear

dark clothes. Let's break that. Break the pattern. Pattern. I am loving dressing for the fall. I have not heard you so clearly state your not only distaste for summer, but love of the colder season. It has been the highlight of my year being here in New York City now.

Like the October flush and the flannel cure. November. That's November. Oh, sorry. Fuck. Well, I'm sure November will be great too. And Taylor was right about that one. When I got here,

Bellen was playing Cruel Summer, contributing to the number one hit. I mean, I don't have to contribute anymore. I'm doing it for my own enjoyment now. Period. I mean, congrats to her, by the way. Congrats to her. 10 number ones.

And later we will rank all 10 number ones. Look forward to that one. Later. Brother. Let's talk about my sister's huge, huge musical release. I was going to say album release, but not yet.

Album release incoming. I mean, let's talk about it. I have a song with Moona. That is so slay. You know, they say I can die now. I genuinely, they say I can die now. I genuinely, if I were to be hit by, let's say, a bus. Let's just say.

Let's just say a bus. I at least would have, probably in my, you know, what do they call the post-mortem when they write about you? In the... Obituary, girl. Obituary, or do you mean like the autopsy? Oh, okay. Well, if they cut open my body and could see my heart, it would be a flow with gratitude. But in my obituary, it probably would read, he had a song with Moona.

And then I could die now because I know it'll say that. That's the first sentence. Yeah, period. He had a song with Moona. Matt Rogers, age 33, was struck by an energy-efficient city bus. At least that. At least he helped. I mean, at least I know that while the energy

that was being used to run me over... Yeah, at least it was clean. At least it's not going to be harmful. I don't think you should even joke about this. I shouldn't. Because you would be distraught. If I were to get hit by a bus out there. Oh my God.

No, I can't even think about this. I would be so sad. At least it would be during the fall. You know what I mean? No, you're right. We can't. No, I'm a reader. Katie's published as finalist.

I'm genuinely so immediately sad now that I'm thinking about this. By the way, I am not feeling my best. And no one has what we think is an ear infection. Yeah. And I've come to his home and he's wearing all sweats and the lights were dim. He was eating, what was it you were having? Kang Shifu Ramen. There we go. Which is a famous Chinese

ramen that is, I think, better than some of the Korean and Japanese stuff. Sorry. Looks like you meant to start with that statement. Yeah. But things were feeling cozy in here. Like a sick boy was living here.

Right. So I've come over and I, of course, smoked a little weed and then handed him the joint. And then I smoked it myself. So that's how we sisters do. We get each other sick. And you did give me COVID recently. I did. And by you gave me COVID, I mean, I got COVID directly after you. It could have been the other way around, sister.

It probably was for me. Would you rather it have been from someone else? No, if I'm going to get COVID, I want it at least contracted from you. But you were doing that thing of apologizing about it. And I was like, no one should ever apologize at this point. It's out there. I was apologizing that I was around you guys. That you knew.

I didn't know. You knew. Well... That I was around you guys. That you knew. I didn't know. You knew. Well. You tested positive, looked at the stick, and you looked devilishly in the mirror at your reflection and said, Coming! To me and Suni. And you walked in and said, Give me a hug, sister.

Smiling all the way. As I contracted the virus. No. The coronavirus. 19. 19. You got to do a song with your favorite band. Is that a true statement? It is.

Do you know why? I was so nervous and scared to call them up and Brett was like, oh, we should FaceTime her right now. We should FaceTime Katie right now. And I was just like, I had been through like four drafts of like a notes app thing to like send them. And I was like, we can't just call. And he was like, yeah, we can. We're going to do it like send them and I was like we can't just call

and he was like yeah we can we're gonna do it right now and I was like okay because he's one of those people that's like such a we're gonna do it self starter and I'm the kind of person I don't know how you feel but I'll put her around anxiously before I do anything I think between you and Brett yeah you guys

are a great team because you get to pull the other in a direction of your choice. Yeah. Brett is Leland, by the way, who produced and co-wrote the track with me. And we called. She said yes immediately. And then she sent over the track pretty much the next day. And we heard her voice on it and literally just collapsed in each other's arms.

I was like, because this is his second Moon of Future. And it was obviously my first. And I was just like, oh my God, it just made the song so much better. I'm so happy. And then she was in the video. Comedy performance kick. She should act. The dirt, like it was Christmas, right?

Right. She killed it. She killed it. But just that move on camera. Giving pop star the whole time it was so good and i loved the discussion in the lead-up about what she would wear and she she texted me and she goes should i just be like a slutty pop girly version of you i was like yes yeah you should that's exactly how you should show up and she did she looks unbelievable was so funny she should act and made the whole thing better and Jared Freider

crushed it. We co-directed it. Now talk about this part. How'd it feel to be in the director's chair? We love. And we love. Because I wrote up the treatment.

So basically my two favorite music videos of all time are Gwen Stefani Cool which we've talked about ad nauseum on this podcast. Definitely inspired this video. Uh-huh. And then also Maroon 5 She Will Be Loved with iconic star turn by Kelly Preston.

Yes. It's like narrative in a way that I didn't know I could do by myself. So brought Jared in and he just like crushes. He's so good at what he does. Jared Frida, director. Director. Previous guest on the podcast, if you are not familiar. He threatened to come over again tonight.

He threatened to. I can't have guests tonight. No, only me. I'm so sorry. He did the Jared thing, which was I was like, I'm going over to Bones to record the episode. He goes, okay, I'll come. I was like, okay. And then he was like, he looked at me like, really? And I was like, no.

But he can come another time. I would have loved to have had him if I wasn't ill. Do you know what I mean? Yes. It's actually very sort of I'm not going to say chic, but it's apt of you to be sick now in the fall time. Because this is when it goes around, girl.

Look at you getting your liquids. He's absolutely sucking down water. By the way, are you on these Stanley cups? Babe, I'm a Stanley girl. I've earned money from Stanley. They took me to Sundance. Really? Girl, I speak for Stanley.

I have a partnership. I had no idea. Girl, get in on this with me. Are you obsessed? First of all, they sent me their 64 ounce cup. That is all the water you need in a day. And I'm looking over there and there is clearly whatever is in that huge canister is all you would need in a day.

Is all I would need in a day. And you want to know something? I drink more. Period. Because you get excited to drink it because you what? Feel like a Stanley girl. Can I tell you what I wanted to say when you and Sudi were talking about the people? And I love that for you who had those huge, huge bottles, 64 ounce bottles that had like

the markers and the little stupid little pep talks on the side. What? What were you wanting to say to us? Celeste, Sarah, and I got them at the office. We tried it for a week. We were both like, this isn't fun. Oh, why?

Because it feels like a chore? It feels like a chore. Aesthetically, those bottles are disgusting. No, no. And I don't need to be like patronized infantilized by this fucking water bottle with its words and then when this came i thought wow yeah like this is i'm sorry i'm all about the style and this has the style it will never go out of style it's classic it's. I know you love that logo.

It's a gorgeous logo. That bear with the wings. It's exciting to see you so immediately taken by and enthusiastic about a logo on a font. Because that's how I know the product is top-notch. Because you, my sister, have a discerning eye when it comes to that. I just want... Can you hand it to me? Can I just look at it and hold it?

Not sponsored, by the way. Unpaid. Unpaid. comes to that. Can you hand it to me? Can I just look at it and hold it? The Stanley Cup. Not sponsored, by the way. Unpaid. Look at that. Gorgeous. Hear her sing. This is the sounds of the Stanley Cup. Oh! This is the sounds of the Stanley Cup.

Hey! More to come later. That one is going to become a full bop. Wait, what is it called? What? This song. Which song? My song?

This is the Sound of the Stanley. Oh, this is the Sound of the Stanley Cup. I think we're going to find it. My God, I think you have like a Paul Simon Graceland-esque album in you. You are too kind to me. What are you going to do next? Hand me $20,000? Girl, I just might. This one is too

good to me. I literally am so happy to see you enjoying this family. It makes me so pleased. I look so pathetic and sick right now. You don't look like you could take on the world, but I'm here with you. Describe my posture. i'm like shoulders you look

like someone in a rom-com who gets broken up with you look like diane lane in like before she starts to like take her own life by the balls you know what i mean like it's giving gracie heart not yet gracie lufrey bush right oh wow not. Not in like... I look like a fucking butch FBI agent in the form of Sandra Bullock. You really do. Honestly, this is giving I'm off-duty FBI.

You know what I always love in Miss Congeniality is that scene that you see her go home. Like in the beginning in the first act where you see her go home. To a shithole.

To a shithole. She takes out a TV dinner, pokes holes in it with her fork, puts it in the microwave, punches a little punching bag, and sleeps in her shitty, disgusting apartment. And her hair's like nasty. Can I say, filming I'm getting home scenes must be very difficult.

I have not had to do that. Girl, I think it would be easy because you know all you have to do is channel how tired you are. But I think it's so hard to fake familiarity and this is just what I'm thinking. It's like, okay, I need to spend at least four days

on this apartment set before we roll because I need to make this feel like it's my home. You're actually making an incredible point about that scene in the film she is and I had never really thought of this before but she is not discovering at all

she is totally at home there is no doubt that that shit box is her apartment she is at home there this is why Sandra Bullock is being given the award that she's being given today by us which is Sandra Bullock is being given the award that she's being given today by us. Which is?

Sandra Bullock, you are the actress of the millennium. We will be awarding and honoring you at next year's Last Culture East. Culture Awards. Be there, Sandra. You are the actress of the millennium. And this is a developing story the way that woman carries herself oh yeah what an honor to be alive the same time she is babe let me tell you something one word that doesn't get said enough in this context gravity gravity we talk about gravity

all the time things might be falling down things might be falling down all around us but i want to hear the word gravity used more in context with this film. It should be the number one thing when you search gravity in Wikipedia. It should be this film and her performance, not what happens when you drop something from the air. I want the TikToks

to be not about, you know, it's not like a video of some woman and then it says gravity be like. Yeah. The woman and then it says gravity be like yeah the woman goes that's right put that down for real for real for real if people if you know you know but i think that's one of the funniest memes ever memes they can be so funny not us being on this podcast stone being like you know what we're going to talk about and spend energy on?

Memes and the Stanley. Girl, I did not expect this going in. Katie's are eating this week. I have an earth shattering, I don't think so, honey. You do? Yes. Stay tuned.

Readers, Katie's Publishers. Oh my God. To think that is still to come and we're going to rank the Taylor Swift number one hits. Wow. You're not, you literally don't know what's coming for you.

All of you. I'm looking at my sister. You don't know what's coming. Oh my God. It's like sweeps. It's like November sweeps. Oh yeah. And it's like the trailers

leading up to like a big moment. I miss sweeps. You will never be the same. I will, I miss sweeps and sweeps culture. We wouldn't have gotten Code Black if it weren't for sweeps. There would not be any of the most memorable episodes of any of these shows had it not been for sweeps.

And that is sweeps culture. Sweeps culture was TV culture. And that's rule of culture. Number six, sweeps culture was TV culture. I think I said this recently and it's staying with me and I hate to talk about work, but like, you know, I was doing like final interviews for Dicks

and then like people were asking me like, oh my God, what was Travis and Taylor like when they came to SNL? And my answer was like, you know what? It reminds me that like live TV lets you do things like that. Yeah. And like really surprise people and like and I said quite literally things like that. Yeah. And like really surprise people. And like,

and I said quite literally streaming could never. Yeah. You know what I mean? Literally could never. It's so, isn't it so crazy? I don't even watch Love is Blind anymore, but the fact that they couldn't get that live finale right,

that reunion right, is so embarrassing. I know it's been like a couple of years at this point or like a year and a half. That is a huge embarrassment for Netflix. Oh yeah. Anyway, not to be. No, I mean like, I think, and also also not for nothing but you know what would have been a huge moment if we had sweeps culture even like eventized television culture anymore

the aiden thing on and just like that wouldn't have been ruined the samantha thing which thing wouldn't have been ruined and then those would have been moments. And we can never get those. No. It's sad. It's really sad. No, we're genuinely like, if I think too hard about it, I'm like, I cry hard. The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite

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production in partnership with deep blue sports and entertainment you can find us on the i heart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast presented by elf beauty, founding partner of I heart women's sports. First of all, can I say you literally also, you took a fall. You took a tumble, but what hurt his shoulder and the circumstances,

the circumstances are not necessarily important, but he took a fall. I took a tumble Bowen hurt his shoulder and the circumstances the circumstances are not necessarily important but he took a fall I took a fall at work let's just say that let's just say there was a sketch

where there's pandemonium going on in the background and I was told to run away and check Molly Carney in the shoulder and guess what happened I spun into a fall

you ever hear that? spun into a fall like i was a damn fucking pinwheel you know what though at least like if it had gone really wrong yeah it could have gone much worse the headlight would have been bowen yang spills into fall in yourself face all for snl sketch. Mostly background role. Mostly background role. No, I don't mind that. No, I know. There are no small parts.

There are no small parts. You say that every single day. You call me and you somehow work into every conversation we have. Every single one. You say, you know, there's no small parts. I'm like, yes, I know about it. It applies to a lot. I do incorporate into every conversation we have. Listen, was there anything you want to say on this podcast

about the after party and the experience of being around Lady Gaga? Because we said it in our 92 Street and why, but we did not say here. Do you want to tell the readers about something that happened momentous in your life? It was a momentous. I haven't even really processed it. We even talked about this exact scenario a few episodes ago. Yes.

This is me meeting the person that I cannot imagine meeting because I don't know how it would behave meeting. And interestingly, now I know. So we're at the meeting between dress and air. We're on the studio floor. It's like two, three hundred people who work there all listening to Lauren talk about the sketches

that are making it to air. Mine got cut. No problem. I was totally fine with it actually. I was like, you know what? I don't need to have a little thing in this. This is such a strong show for other people. It's an amazing show overall. Anyway, Lorne goes,

and Lady Gaga will be introducing the first song. And then I screamed in my faggiest moment my entire time working there, Lady Gaga! Everyone gasped, giggled, screamed. Lorne was like, well, she's not the Lady Gaga. She's Lady Gaga. I was like, I think he was just trying to,

you know what? Lorne loves to be a little zinger. He was like, she's not the Lady Gaga. She's Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga. Like basically saying like, yeah, she's a normal girl. I know. I think he was trying'm like, yeah, she's normal girl. I know.

I think he was trying to like, he was telling me like, he was saying Bowen, calm down, straighten up. He was Meryl Streighten down. He was saying, straighten,

straighten up. Sorry, go ahead. No, that's, and then later, later, I have doubts.

No girl, later in the night when you met the gods. Oh, I thought you were saying later in the movie, doubt. And then later in the movie, what else? What was another line? And say the rest of the script. I have such doubts. Later.

She comes out. She introduces Bad Bunny. She says, Nueva York. Nueva York, Puerto Rico. The reason why she did that is very clever. And I can't really get into it. Yeah. But the reason she did that is very clever and I can't really get into it. Yeah. But the reason she did that is genius.

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, we go to the after party. Matt and I actually saw Titanic once with Bobby Campbell, her amazing, incredible manager. He's so lovely. And his partner, Robert.

And then Bobby grabs me. Well, actually, Bobby did not grab me. It was Robert who grabbed me. Robert's like, Bobby did not grab me. It was Robert who grabbed me. Robert's like, you have to meet Stephanie. I said, oh, no. I literally was like, no, no. Yeah, fear response, no. True fear response.

I was like, oh, no, that's okay. I really can't. I wasn't even gawking at her. Like, she was sitting in my eyeline, like, from my table. I was like, I can't look at her. I can't, like, I at her. Like she was sitting in my eyeline, like from my table. I was like, I can't look at her. I can't like, I can acknowledge that she's here.

I just, this is really overwhelming. But then Robert dragged me over in the nicest way. I will. But then no, I feel it. I feel that feeling. She was deep in conversation with someone else. And then she says,

hello. She says, it's so nice to meet you and she says you're so funny I think she just like knew me as a cast member but didn't really she doesn't know that you stand so she doesn't know that I stand so I don't think she

has ever clocked me being on the show other than that night she had no idea what I was about in terms of her well she lives on Chromatica. And she's been Harley Quinn for about a year and a half. She's been Lee. Yeah, Lee, sorry. And I immediately

launched to the story that I told earlier about Lorne, and I said, oh my god, Gaga, my faggiest moment in my time working here, my six years working here, five years, whatever, basically told her that story, and I screamed to her face in a crowded restaurant and I screamed, Lady Gaga. And she kind of like gasped a little and then like, kind of like looked around the restaurant in a way that like, wasn't, she was being polite. She wasn't making it so conspicuous, but like,

I definitely felt self-conscious. Like I was like, oh no, she giggled through it, was nervously laughing through it. But I was like, oh no. She giggled through it, was nervously laughing through it, but I was like, oh, I actually made her uncomfortable. You know what? Can I say? That is good. You made Lady Gaga uncomfortable. This woman turns into other people, okay?

She is Lady Gaga who came down like a spider into the Super Bowl. She is Lady Gaga, Patrizia. Patrizia. She was shook by, Patrizia. Patrizia. And she was shook by something that you did. Girl, the way you are one of the most legendary icons.

You shook Gaga. I shook Gaga. That's true. I didn't think of it that way. The title of it? Gaga shook. Gaga shook. I was Gaga shook in that moment. Gaga shook. I think it should be you shook Gaga Shook. Gaga Shook. I was Gaga Shook in that moment.

Gaga Shook. I think it should be You Shook Gaga. You Shook Gaga. I didn't physically shake her. I did not touch her besides like a hug. And that was it. Yeah, that's good that you made that clear. Well, so I guess the first moment was technically a good night's when I hugged her.

So that was literally the first moment you hugged her. And then what were you thinking while it was happening? I was like, that experience that what just happened is on a lightning fast conveyor belt. Let it go. Don't grab it. Don't think about it. Okay. Okay.

I don't think that counts. No. So then at the after party, I sit next to her at our table for like 15 minutes. She's literally fully turned the other way, like talking to someone else. But I was talking to Bobby and Robert and gosh, that was it. I was like, I apologize. I was like I apologized to her I was like I fully embarrassed her earlier she was like no you didn't

I was like oh yikes that could have gone better listen the rest is still unwritten I think it's actually one of the most beautiful lines in a song I think that there is a great future and I think that what you have done is you've both shaken you've shaken her but humanized yourself.

And it's because you showed up honestly that night. My sister only shows up as herself. She deserves accolades. That would never happen with anyone else in the world. Do you know we were supposed to be there

and Dave was kicking himself, but we did have a fun time. Because his two favorite artists are in fact Bad Bunny and Lady Gaga. We were out on Long Island. We were having a fall day. You guys had a gorgeous fall day. We went to go see my parents. We lost the family dog Bailey.

So that was a rough one for Richie and Trina. Put the lighters in the air for Bailey who was 14 and a half. She was a queen. She was a queen and a legend but reaching out to anyone out there that goes through the loss of a pet

because it is tough. But we went out to see them. I took House, Jared and Dave. And we went out and we had pumpkin beers girl and you know I crave them. And then we went to a haunted escape room themed to the film It on Long Island. Did you go into the damn sewer?

Honey, what happened was we basically were up in the sewer. Up in the sewer? Little boy's jacket, his yellow jacket was there covered in blood. It was a hard escape room and there was a live actor. No. As Pennywise. No, no. it was there covered in blood it was a hard escape room and there was a live actor no as pennywise no no so as if that wasn't enough terror and yes we did get out with i think seven or eight minutes to spare we got out we went someone was pennywise yeah yeah hun they were hun i'm not i'm getting in my solving no puzzle when pennywise is a foot away from me. One of film's scariest monsters.

And a frontrunner for that category next year at the Last Culture Race's Culture Awards. Because Pennywise has been under-rewarded at that ceremony. And it's time that we take accountability. Year three, we're breaking the terrible standards we've set for ourselves. In years one and two. The standards from before are no longer the standards. The Lost Culture Beasts Disculture Awards are a dusty, stodgy institution.

Used up. Used up. We know it's rigged. It's time we change it. I have a feeling that if a celebrity says they're going to be on the show, they win. What do you mean? I think it's fixed.

I think that Matt and Bowen fix it. I think that they wait to see if a celebrity's gonna like I think that do you think that they would have give Ariana Maddox the coolest girl award if Ariana Grande had said that she would show up? What would they have done then? That's hard. Fake. That's

both of them. I hate them. Matt and Bowen? I hate them. They're so annoying. Faggots. They're such faggots. Where did we drift from? Oh, the fall day. The fall day.

So then after the escape room, we went to, in Hoppog, Long Island, New York. It was rated 39th out of all haunted attractions in the country. Number one in New York. The Chambers of Hell.

Girl. The Chambers of Hell. Girl. The Chambers of Hell. Who did you see? Girl. Beelzebub. Basically her and a lot of her friends that are no fun to be around, sweetie. The Incubi. The Succubi.

For everyone saying that I was skipping right to Christmas, I want you to know, I went to the chambers of hell for you so that I wouldn't skip, sorry, but y'all's favorite holiday. I went into the chambers of hell. I'm not even kidding you. I've never experienced a walkthrough haunted house like this. There was a point. Oh, no. Where we had to get on our hands and knees and crawl under shit. Then I had to climb up in like literally it's like crawl spaces.

The actors are dressed down. They're jumping. They're screaming. They're carrying on. Playing for team too much. Chasing. It's hell, girl. It was the chambers of hell

and there were three of them. This was a 40 minute experience. What? We were so shook. I swear to God. We were having a heart attack throughout. Kudos. Can I bang the Stanley to them?

Let's just play the Stanley song. For all the girls in the Chambers of El and Hot Bog, we were so shook we had to eat. We went to Patrizia's on Long Island. It's an Italian restaurant where it's a party all night.

It looked like a damn party. I swear to God, they were serving towers of espresso martinis with sparklers on the top. Oof. And I said...

That's team too much. It was world championship. Heather J., be careful. Watch out. Watch out. Well, I think Whitney is more team too much this season was world championship. Heather J, be careful. Watch out. Watch out. Well, I think Whitney is more team too much this season. Oh, yeah.

Whitney's. But anyways, so then we eat this vicious Italian meal. Get on the Long Island Railroad. We are full of cheese. I wake up in the morning. And at that point, I was not making it to SNL. I wasn't taking my full of cheese body to go like, you know,

wink at Bad Bunny from across the room. Right. You know what I'm saying? Totally. But we wish we could have been there with you, beloved. It would have been

such a fun shared moment, but it was a nice night. And we missed you on the island too, slurping back pumpkin beers. Oh, I wish I was. I have not, see, the thing about this job is I have not had a nice,

proper fall getaway in so long. I know I was. I have not. See, the thing about this job is I have not had a nice proper fall getaway in so long. I know that you've been craving that. Remember that year we went to Tarrytown? Oh my god, of course. That was revolutionary. And then we did the Sleepy Hollow haunted house. That was so much fun. That was a little too... Here's what I loved about this haunted house. That one was really crowded

and the crowd... It was like you could barely move throughout because it got backed up. This one, they were doing like crowd control. Wow. So that you were really in every room by yourself with your party. And I was like, give it up. For production. Yeah.

That's producing, literally, is thinking about the experience. MetLife Stadium should talk to them about moving people through a space. Girl, there is no hope. There is. And listen. No hope. Y'all listening. If you live in the tri-state area,

it's just, it's the worthiest investment ever to just get the party bus. Honey, honey, that is the best money you will have ever spent. Go online, find a bunch of people who are going, especially if it's one of these big artists,

you know, there's big fan communities where you'd want to carpool and go in on one of these buses. You can get in and out. And then they guess what? They get to stay in the parking lot for the entire show. And then you just go back to where you came from. And then these huge vehicles plow through the lines that are leaving.

It's beautiful. Beautiful, big and bold is how you feel when you roll up in the automobile that's big. That one doesn't work as well as a lot of my other songs. I disagree. There was something about it in the beginning and then I don't know, girl.

That's how you feel in the automobile? That's how you feel in the automobile. There's something there. What if we just did a jam sesh what if you and i just wrote a fucking pop banger okay okay we'll do it well what's what mood are you in right now i'm so awful you feel awful because you're sick but i'm here with my friend so maybe there's a song about that i think that's definitely part of the texture but like i feel like your emotion right now is like yeah you know it's gonna be okay but you really don't feel good and what do you think is the tempo

if you could musically express how you feel this is wonderful and now just... I have a headache, but I'm with my girl, so it's okay. Another day in this world. Wait, this is good. Okay. I have a headache. It's sort of like rolling in the deep. Oh, my God. I have a headache it's sort of like rolling in the deep oh my god I have a headache

but I'm with my girl trying to hit it another day in this world this is good this song that is a driving through it tells you to keep going I know

things are bad like you know what I mean it's a hopeful song it is about rising up to do the podcast episode that's what it's about it's about I know I'm sick but we need an episode this week

I'm not going to let this stop me from doing my job and getting through the day and that's what makes the song connect to anyone listening I will not let my circumstances stop me from getting through this day you will not hold me down katie perry needs to sing this katie it's katie we'll see you on your next album can my label mate capital girl that'll be easy to get it over to her yeah is that how it works um i think that it would be a lot easier to work with

someone on the same label. Yeah. Yeah. Rebecca Minkoff? Have you ever heard of her? But things could change in a New York Minute. She had this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy. What? You've told her? Not today, Satan. Not today. The Real Housewives of New York City. All new Tuesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had.

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I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life.

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Let's discuss her. I think this album is so sublime. I mean, it's certainly this era of Troye, just well done. A plus, confident, comfortable songwriting, amazing production. And swings. A plus. Confident, comfortable songwriting. Amazing production. And swings. Swings. The music videos are unforgettable.

Yeah. It feels like I'm in the damn early aughts. Yeah. The whole album. I mean, Honey is fantastic. Honey is so good. I think it's called How to Stay With You, the closing track. Yeah. What time is it where you are?

I mean, like. What time is it where you are? Wow. That has gotten. I've contributed to half of those plays yeah i think she's racking up streams and that's for sure still god it is so good yeah oh silly got me started yeah it's all great and shout out to brett leland who's like so fucking good so good i mean excellent album we i think people have been chomping at the bit for us to talk about this album that we've been hyping for months and months.

Oh, Chapel? Yeah. Absolutely. We went to go see her at Brooklyn Steel too. I saw her both the night she was in Brooklyn and I did not plan to and I have no regrets. No, I mean, that show was fucking fun. And also it's just,

I called it when I saw her back earlier in the year, her following, it was twice as intense as it was then. And it, it's just, I called it, when I saw her back earlier in the year, her following, it was twice as intense as it was then. And it's going to keep growing. Like, this girl puts on a fun fucking show. And all of the songs translate live

in a really powerful way. No kidding. They hit. On Tuesday, I was with people from work, and they get to go to these concerts for free and stuff because sometimes they handle some of the bookings, and one girl turns to me and goes, she's special. Yeah.

And I was like, yes. Oh, my God. You connected the bookers of SNL to her show? That's mage. Who knows? I mean, that's not me. Yeah, but she should be on Saturday Night Live. 100%. It's like when Troy went on SNL.

I'm going to say, like, Maren Morris went on SNL. It's like, I love when SNL has, like, a discovery for you. Oh, back in the day, like, you could argue, we've discussed it on this pod, but, like, you could argue Adele became Adele because of her Saturday Night Live performance. She did Chasing Pavements the same night, I believe, that it was

the second time Tina Fey was doing Sarah Palin. It was Josh Brolin and Adele. Yeah, right. It was when Sarah Palin herself showed up. Oh, that one. Right, right, right, right, right. And Adele has a funny story where she sees Sarah Palin in the hall and she goes, Tina! Yep. She thought it was Tina Fey. That

is unbelievable. But you're saying that, like, yeah, like, T-Fa. That is unbelievable. I remember she won Best New Artist at the Grammys and that was Grammy voting time, I think. It was literally that election year where everyone's eyes were turned to SNL. And then I remember she even says it. She's like,

Tina Fey, sitting there like, it's one, I'm down now! And she kind of says it like that in that same exact voice I just did. That is an amazing impression. The fact that I lost control of my Adele, I'm worthless. I should walk into the street.

Stop it. You think it's a requirement that you have an Adele impression? It's the easiest accent to do in the world and I'm world famous for it. You know what? Cockney is... Break it down.

Well, it's like, you know how when you ask British people to do in the world and I'm world famous for it. You know what? Cockney is... Break it down. You know how when you ask British people to do an American accent or when you see a British person, like an actor and they go, hi y'all. Hi y'all. They go into the most regionally chaotic southern accent. You guys are so fucking chaotic over in the UK, dude.

I feel like the equivalent for us is doing Cockney like that. You know what I mean? I 100% know what you mean. So it's like, it's a very delicate accent to nail. So I'm sorry to Adele

and I'm sorry to myself for being so hard on myself about my Adele. And my therapist would be proud of me for saying, apologizing to myself. What did she say recently? Just another way to be cruel to yourself?

I love this, by the way. Do you want to talk about it? Yeah, totally. I mean, I was beating up on myself about, I think, I was nervous about the music coming out. Of course. And I was nervous about the music videos, which, by the way, I'm so thrilled with and happy with. Everything has been incredible.

But I stress out and I beat myself up. And she was just listening to me and she just takes a beat. And my therapist just goes, another way for you to be cruel to yourself. And I was like, oh, and then I actually laughed because I was like, when you put it like that, it makes it sound almost like when it's so easily clocked by someone else, you're like, now it just feels like, well, now that you are boring and annoying for me to be like that. It's beyond self-awareness and it's like

someone calling, your therapist calling you in and so that now you know it's like this external awareness that other people can clock it. She just texted me. Your therapist? Yes. Oh my god. Do we have a psychic connection? Oh. I asked for an emergency session this week and she just, I said, she said nothing yet. Oh no.

Are you okay? everything's fine i think okay just to be totally real like there was more attached to that song i just released than just like it's a funny song you know what i mean like yes i wrote that like sort of to deal with what i was going through earlier in the year so i had a degree of anxiety about it coming out and when it came out and it just brought things up. So I reached out to the old therapist. It was the first time I ever did, I think probably with you with Fire Island,

you may have felt this way, but it's the first time you feel like you give a little part of yourself into a thing. Because usually we just usually do sketches and characters and silly songs and stuff. And then all of a sudden, you actually show up in something and it's like it's different it's very strange yeah and i can't imagine what this feels like because would you say this is the first thing you've put out that has

a significant degree of like oh this is funny yes but like very me very diaristic very like it's the first thing i've successfully wrote about my own pain oh it's like and that that actually feels like so cool really cool because i remember like i don't know how you feel but sometimes i feel like the kind of writer that feels lame because i never can really put on paper what i'm going through emotionally i can be funny and i can like explore like comedic scenarios but i've just never been good at like using like for lack of better term like taking my broken heart and making it into art like that's not a thing for me i usually create from joy and i think when you are sad that makes it even more frustrating because you're like why do i feel

all these big fucking emotions and I can't do anything with them. Now I feel pathetic. And then I beat the shit out of myself because it feels like, yeah, sure. Like comedy is one thing, but then actually saying how I feel,

it's sometimes harder to funnel that into the comedy without feeling like you're trying too hard or, you know, getting in your own way, you know, but you feel some obligation to be like in that moment to be like creative generative whatever when you're feeling sad yeah and you can't and that's frustrating you can't so this was the first time i ever successfully ended up with something where i was like i believe that says something about what i went through and also i stand by

comedically and like as a song well comedic the comedy of it is so inseparable from the emotion of it, which is like, wow, I felt so many things with you, the person you're singing to in the song, but I don't really know that much about you, which is such, I'm going to go as far as to say that it's a universal feeling. And we've all had those

people. Yeah. It's about that thing that feels so big, but occupies such a moment. You know what I mean? And then all of a sudden time does its thing where you like literally start to forget. And there is something funny about that. Like when a star explodes, like a big bang of emotion, and then everything just starts to sort of settle. And then you're like, oh, wow, I i went through that and i can't really say much specifically about it right because time just starts to do that thing that they say is going

to make things better but then there's also something sad about it too because you're like oh man the specificity of it is going away that's also part of the heartbreak so i guess that's like the best distillation of how i'm feeling how I feel about the whole thing is that like it's worthy of a song, but I truly can't say much specifically about it. Yeah. But that thing makes the song. Right. And that's really incredible that you took it a meta layer above that and then you're like, this is what the song is about. It's excellent.

It feels good to create something that you think says something about how you feel. You know what I mean? That is girl, when we get our pens to paper. You know what? I can't quite tell where I'm at in terms of talking about my own emotions. I will say

when I'm in therapy and I go off, I go off, I'm like, well, I should be writing every word of this down because I am writing a fucking, I am writing like Jerry Maguire, the movie too. You know what I mean?

You should be journaling. I should be journaling. My journaling is awful. Well, I go back and read some of my entries from like last year and I'm like, today was fine. Went to the gym, had a smoothie.

I'm like, this is so boring. Then maybe there there's something there make fun of yourself like that I mean honestly that's kind of what ultimately the everything you want song is is like I literally sat down to like do this earnest exercise of like what do I wish him for Christmas this year I couldn't remember and I was like okay well I'm gonna drag myself. You know what I mean? Like there's something, I think it's just like, you literally just write those things down. Not so that like it can be something in the moment, but so that you can have a reaction to it later. That's, I think, something about writing.

I didn't realize or remember, but is something. Writing is so hard. It's hard. Yeah. Very very difficult especially when you train yourself to think in a short form again and again and again i would imagine well i am always like so paralyzed whenever the season's off at snl i'm like i think my creative process is my writing process at least is like purely site specific like you're just you just feel like it's now when you think writing, you think that type of specific. Which I really need to start like untangling

because it's like, I can't be locked into this. I cannot have the paralysis around this, around anything else because I'm only used to this one way of posturing myself. But I'm excited to work on longer form things in the future.

But also LOL at me being like, you know what you should do? Journal. Sorry, but as if I journal. Yeah. I have journal. That's all I'm saying. I hit a plateau with it like over the summer. I was like, this isn't really helping me.

So I have been off of that. And it's been fine. Were you spinning yourself out? It just felt like I made it feel like such a chore because it was on my checklist of things to do every day. And I always came with such a weird attitude around it. I was like,

this is compulsory. I don't really want to do this. And so that kind of just waste of time. Can I ask you a question? Were you typing it? Typing it. You have to write it. And then it will feel so much easier and actually more fun. And when you feel like you have to sit down and type something,

I think there's this message you sent to yourself, which is it has to be a thing and long right now. I never think I can just like jot something down typing. But when I write, I can write just like a couple sentences down and then put it down. And then news for you, when you add to that later,

you are writing something. Or you're just collecting whatever it is and then news for you, when you add to that later you are writing something. Totally. Or you're just collecting whatever it is but like your process, I think take it out of the computer. Girl. Where do you think you're going? To the damn notebook with the pen. Girl. You want to do I Don't Think So Honey

and you know it is time. I'm so sorry. I'm feeling really sick. The first thing we have to do before we do that, because we promised is rank Taylor Swift's top 10 number ones. And I'm going to do it really quickly. So you don't have to, because you're going to agree with me when I say it. Number one is all too well.

10 minute version. Number two is blank space. Number three is cruel summer. Number four is willow. Number five is look what you made me do. Number six. You already done this is we are never ever getting back together number seven is you think that's worse than look what you made me

do oh after the movie you rank it above that yeah sorry number seven is stop you're losing me that's not me saying that one but i'm losing what it is. It's, we should know this. Shake it off. Shake it off. Then it's bad blood. Then it's cardigan. That's only nine. I'm forgetting one.

Um, but that's okay. I think you got all of them. No, I didn't because I only had nine fingers raised. Oh, antihero, antihero.

Okay. Then put antihero in between. Look what you made me do. And, um didn't because I only had nine fingers raised. Oh, Antihero. Antihero, okay, then put Antihero in between Look What You Made Me Do and We're Never Getting Back Together. And We're Never Ever Getting Back Together. Were you that low? I think that I think that's one of her most incredible songs. It's Better Than All Too Well, 10 Minute Version, Blank Space, and

Cruel Summer. And then what did you do between Cruel Summer and Willow? But that's personal to me. Oh, I do love Willow. Willow is is that girl and when she came out with those orbs and said wait for the signal and i'll meet you after dark i'm gonna put that below well i'm gonna put anti-hero below willow better than look what do you mean we do Is that the ranking? You have seen the Error's Tour movie. I know you have. And you still want to do that? You still want Look What You Made Me Do to be that low?

After you saw the Error's Tour movie and you saw the slayage and the carnage, pop carnage. I think that's an amazing production moment in her concert. I respect you, sister. Do you understand what I'm saying? I do now.

Are we ranking them by song quality? Girl, yes. And I understand now. I think I do. I admire Look What You Made Me Do because it is such a swing and she was like, fuck it, this is my first single.

I'm basically doing Right Said Fred, I'm Too Sexy, who fucking cares? I think that's actually so, so amazing. It's literally so amazing I'm one of the best songwriters I'm the best songwriter of my generation I'm putting this fucking crazy ass song out there

for my like no press vengeance album don't talk to me album Taylor way to go way to go. New York City. Everyone is a gossip. No one gets a happier life. Salt Lake City. We don't wear pastels, we wear fashion.

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My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer.

I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that.

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It's where we take one minute to rant, rail, and more against something in culture that we absolutely want to drag discredit and more i have something that is actually based on my evening at patricia's it references something that i discussed earlier and i think this one's going to be tough especially for the katies but i have to say this because i feel it oh this is matt rogers i don't think so honey's time starts now i don't think so. I don't think so. Honey, espresso martinis. I'm sorry.

I think that the moment burnt bright. Yeah, but I think that moment has passed. I think that it's now gotten out of control because I don't think so. Honey, having an espresso martini before your meal, unless that meal is going to be like also some kind of dessert. You are absolutely ruining your palate. I don't think so, honey,

that you can really enjoy, like for example, at an Italian place, like chicken Parmesan after an espresso martini. I'm sorry. I don't think so, honey. I want to throw up

when I think about that combination. And you will see these girls sucking down espresso martinis with meals and ruining their dinners. Meanwhile, post-dinner fine. But as a cultural moment, we've moved on from just post-dinner drinks. And also, you can't use it in the place of a Red Bull anymore. I don't think so, honey, because culturally now we're confused. We've let espresso martini go too far.

It's time to go back to Red Bull. And if you're this type of girl, cocaine. I don't think so, honey. Amazing. Now, I want to say that... Don't do cocaine. Like an espresso, this peaked an amazing peak, but it is now crashing.

I don't really know what to say. You're saying that we as a culture have moved on from post-dinner drinks? No. I'm saying we as a culture can't handle Espresinis this is why we can't have nice things because they've moved too far beyond being a post-dinner drink to like give us a second win like now culturally like i see them at all hours of the day and also there's this crazy thing happening. And Jessel, I love you girl. But earlier in the season of Roni, my girl,

my diva, Jessel tank. I am a tank top. She ordered a espresso martini with tequila. Oh, I do remember that. That was when I didn't really, it wasn't a big fan of hers.

And now I look back and I'm like, go off queen with your weird ass cocktail but no no no no no we can't be trusted with this anymore we can't did you watch the reunion last night I have to tell you I didn't but I will but I heard that it was boring and that's making it hard to like

it's only in two parts it's only in two parts and the first part you would say was kind of boring pretty boring although there are interesting dynamics happening where you can clearly see it's so obvious that Psy and Aaron have come into that reunion being like oh we came off really bad yeah

but then Psy of course is fucking insufferable and does this thing where she's like I'm taking full accountability and I'm sorry Brynn for what I said to you and I'm sorry Jessel for what I said blah blah blah I'm sorry I'm taking full accountability and then within her next breath is like but also like I was right

and your husband's cheating on you and blah blah blah no one suffered more than me all this shit Erin does the same thing she has a tearful moment out of nowhere about being the older sister the eldest sister fucking Jenna starts sobbing 10 minutes in.

It was a weird one, but I heard Uba was kind of acting. Uba was misunderstanding things. I did not understand what to bring to that scenario was like totally derailing a conversation that Andy was starting where like everyone would be like, what are you talking about? Yeah, it was not great. And then it ends with Cy and Jessel. And then like Jessel came off great and Jessel has a great moment where- Yeah, she looks good next to Andy. She looks good next to Andy. But then Cy in one of her like, you know, moments, her

word salads was like, I apologize. I should have never commented on your marriage. I don't think you and your husband have a connection but I should never comment on someone's marriage and Jussel was like you just did and the way Jussel does it is like well you're fucking stupid it was great I think Jussel clear winner I shouldn't have said anything I apologize for saying something

I don't think you and your husband have a connection but I'm sorry I shouldn't have said anything but I don't think you and your husband have a connection. But I shouldn't be commenting on your marriage. Well, you just did. Can I ask, what do you think it is about Psy that stops her from being a villain we love and is making her more of a villain that we're irritated with?

She's not funny. She, actually, Hunter Harris was actually talking about this in her sub stack. Like, Brandon and Jenna have style. Psy has brands. Psy doesn't really, I don't think she knows how to dress herself. I will say, I think she always looks amazing, but you're right.

It might be for the reasons you're saying, because I think that there's a lack of individuality in what she brings. Well, she was harping on the same things all season. The food. Her mother, which is, of course, a tragic thing, there's a lack of like individuality in what she brings. And, um, well, she was harping on the same things all season, the food, her mother,

which is of course a tragic thing, but like constantly bringing it up as a way to like put down other people. So bizarre. I wonder if she feels really embarrassed about the food thing. I'm sure. Cause it's really, it got really tiring. Well,

you can tell that she is someone who embarrassment is adjoined to anger like when she like in the finale when she was like it was a fucking camera like she lashes out when she's been caught in something she fucking explodes and you're like yikes that is not something that anyone likes to see on TV from any gender you know what I mean

I don't think it's like a oh we're she's a woman she's not allowed to be angry she's a woman of color I think it literally is something that like, that's not fun on reality television. I think it just needs to feel like justified. And it's just, she got so, here's my thing.

I literally, I don't even dislike her. I think they're all figuring out. I don't know why I have like a compassion for this cast. Maybe it's because I'm doing their Bravo con panel and I'm really trying to be fair i'm no i think what it is it's not even about fair is i'm just really trying to see the best in all of them oh that's because i'm trying not to make a decision about one of them before i like go into this thing where i have to like you know talk with all of them and etc but i will say is tough with Psy because it's that thing of like,

her behavior just isn't very grounded. Yeah. And I just, you know, it could be the editing, but like, it's just, you can't really fake it. That's such a rookie move, though, for her. It's both Psy and Aaron being on like,

the Bravo Instagram commenting, being like, stay tuned for the editing, did a sturdy blah, blah, blah, and then like, people dragging them in the requirements. I had to get in there and be like, stay tuned for the editing, did a sturdy blah blah blah, and then like, people dragging them in the requirements. I had to get in there and be like, girl, you're not cut out

for this. I really don't think Erin is cut out for reality television. She seems very sensitive in a way where it's like... No, it's fine. It's not like a... Yeah, she's sensitive. If you're able to dish it out, you have to be able to take it. And it seems like taking it for her means like full meltdown in a way

where it's like, okay, cute. We can watch that for sure. We can adjust to that. I just, it's not clear at the end of it. Like,

and I think their first season and second season for better or worse are going to be very different because these women now have been in the machine in the cooker, which is why I don't think we should get rid of any of them. I think I'm going to double down on this. We keep them all and bring in Leah. I think that is the best move, if Leah even wants to do it. Right, but start the campaign.

Anyway, espresso martinis. I'm just noticing it's excess. That's all I'm saying. Bowen, do you have an I don't think so honey topic? Yes, you do. You said it was going to be a barn burner, and this is the moment we've all been waiting for. Bowen yang you're i don't think so honey time starts now i don't think so honey the word earnestness why aren't you earnesty why aren't you earnesty the english language is a lie

y'all we are breaking the language i just broke broke the language. Earnesty is not a word, but it should be, right? It's not honestness. It's honesty. And honesty is the word that is the most important, not earnestness. And therefore, honesty should set the model for earnesty. We need to write legislation to make earnesty a word in America, at least. I don't want to speak for other countries, for other countries that speak English. But in America, it should be earnesty.

That is something that we can all get behind. It's a bipartisan effort that will pass. 15 seconds. Unless you're being contrarian out there and being fucking, oh, it's earnestness, blah, blah, blah. No, I don't want to hear from you. You should not participate in our democracy.

Get out. You should only vote if you think the word should be earnesty. Because otherwise, the English language is a fucking grift. And that's one minute. I have to say, there's another example of this, which is it's not jealousness. It's not jealousness. It's jealousy that you add a Y to the word.

Yeah. Honesty. Jealousy. Earnesty. It's not ironness. It's irony. No, it's irony. Jealousy. Ernesty. It's not iron-ness. It's irony. No, it's irony. Ness, I don't like on any word. No.

Oh, you girl. Just watching Bowen just literally physically. You were like Yoda at the end of I think it's he dies in I think Empire Strikes Back. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no. No, he it's Attack of the Clones? He dies in, I think, Empire Strikes Back? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no. No, he dies in Return of the Jedi.

Return of the Jedi, yeah. Yeah, you literally just did that his final breath. No, I was going to say, I looked like, um, I looked like anytime Rogue would, like, touch someone. Oh, yeah. You need a moment of, like, coming back together because you spent all your

energy on that one. I agree with you, sister. of like coming back together because you spent all your energy on that one. I agree with you sister. Ernesty down. Ernestness don't sound right. That's all I'm saying. Ness offends you. Ness is so gross. Get out of here Nessie. Get out of here. Fucking Ness.

Dirty old man. Well this has been I think a very healing episode. Your energy seems much lighter and better now than when I came in and I thought you were dead man walking, sister, with the lights turned low. I'm gonna get better.

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