Last Podcast On The Left - Best of: Panzram

Episode Date: July 28, 2018

Because our book won't write itself (wtf why not) we're taking this week to work on LAST BOOK ON THE LEFT. We'll be back next week, but before that let's revisit Carl Panzram – a serial killer who has much in common with the next heavy hitter we're covering. HAIL SUPERCUTS.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last talk on the left We are talking about Carl pens Ram hands Ram and this story. Oh my god. Wowee. Wowee. Wow. Wow. Wow That's a hot take and I agree. I I'm gonna say this man I was sort of aware because I knew about the quotes and I've seen the pictures of his face very mean-looking Technically deviously handsome. Mm-hmm. Right. Yeah, kind of handsome beautiful eyes soft mouth That kind of hair that goes back looking a little bit like Kelsey grammar Oh my god, I'll pans Ram is slowly but surely licking scraping and fucking his way to the top of the list of serial killers for me Uh-huh. I think he is of what a story

Well, that's what he said in his head every time he was doing a murder He said one day a fat boy from Queens will respect me one day. Well, he technically had several fat boy from That's the thing about listening to true crime writers talk about Carl pans Ram They can barely contain their excitement. It's like they're all just waiting to go like Honestly, have you seen the Expendables this guy would be on the Well, I suppose there is a part of him that everybody does want to harness for their own sake and their own power I mean, yes, true out if he is a true outlaw, right? So Carl pans Ram was an American nomadic hobo serial killer who robbed raped burned and killed his way around the world in the

first 20 or so years of the 1900s and that is true around the world and in the 1900s the early 1900s That was very difficult to do. Here's a quote from pans Ram himself that tells you everything you need to know now Remember we have a collection of his letters So we have a lot of information straight from the old dogs mouth himself So this is him writing about himself and quite articulately as well. Mm-hmm In my love time, I have murdered 21 human beings I have committed

thousands of burglaries robberies Larson is Arsons and I but not least I have committed sodomy on more than 1000 human beings. I used the nice word That is nice. That is a nice word credit for using the nice word Carl pans Ram does get credit for it. You don't For all of these things. I am not the least bit. Sorry. I have no conscience. So that does not worry me I don't believe in man

God or devil. I hate the whole damn human race including myself If you or anyone else will take the trouble and have the intelligence of patience To follow and examine every one of my crimes You will find that I have consistently followed one idea through all of my life. I Prayed upon the weak the harmless and the unsuspecting This lesson I was taught by others might makes

Right that the Carl pans Ram story is known to us because in the later years of his life He befriended a prison guard named Henry Lesser and after they became friends pans Ram told Lesser you are one of the very few people I do not wish to harm Unless you start wearing that male romper It is a fashion Travis will not be around very long Lesser encouraged Carl to write an autobiography detailing his various escapades throughout the years and Carl obliged Now this is one of the very few serial killers where the main source we're using is the killer himself now normally

This is very unreliable normally now and a lot of this is going to sound absolutely Insane, but a lot of it has been fully or mostly verified by researchers And in fact no major statement that pans Ram wrote in his autobiography has been disproven He gives sources while he's writing, you know He'll be writing about a certain crime he said and and then he'd say look you can go to this location in this town Check out this newspaper and you will find an article about this crime that I did and you'll also notice There's a culverse Butter does make a better burger. I can tell you that that's the thing is that it's impossible to know how many dozens if not hundreds of

Carl pans Ram's Existed in America that we will never know about especially in this time period because it is important to know that Carl pans Ram Is very much a product of his time well He's a I would talk about with Natalie and we both compared him It's like I would see Carl pans Ram's an incredible villain as a part ham same thing as a HH Holmes same level also Created by this time period which is then it's it's transitory. There's literally there was no highways There was no way to get out They essentially the West was still kind of like the West but it wasn't there was like a weird-ass transitional period

Well, yeah, this is a super weird transition period like late 1800s early 1900s The West was pretty much settled by this point There were still a couple of indian wars going on But it was still extremely violent and this was at the tail end of the settling of the West and the tail end of the civil war The civil war was not that long ago the most violent period in American history had just happened So by this point Americans were pretty much used to violence was like well We just live in an extremely violent country and this is the way things are and of course when they had that violence They had to meet it with equally brutal punishment in the American penal system

Which Carl pans Ram is without a doubt a product of all pans Ram is different reminds me again of Manson Yeah, where he is a completely he was taught punishment by us the US government and the penal system Punished pans Ram so hard that he just shot it back out the back door and he just became harder and meaner But before we get to pans Ram many many years spent in prison. Let's start with his birth in 1891 A panzer amp was the youngest of five kids born to German immigrant dirt farmers in Minnesota He said I've been a human animal ever since I was born He had four brothers and two sisters

I believe the dad was kind of this weird restless spirit kind of a faceless one of those farmer guys, right? It was just like dead on the inside in the middle of the country extremely Tempormental well that's it is his father came to America thinking that oh, we're gonna get a homestead We're gonna get like a full plot of land But by the time you know the late 1800s came around a lot of America was already settled a lot of the West All of the good shit had been taken years ago ever ever believe the pamphlets never never That's why we had the dust bowl for fuck's sake. I love the dust bowl So he would beat his family regularly

But mostly he was restless and just kind of like trying to figure out what to do So he just kind of disappeared when he disappeared the mom kind of went a little crazy and also needed a lot of help Running the farm and so he as a kid was forced to he'd go to school for eight hours, which was not friendly Like it's just normal corporal thing and then a mom would immediately put him on the farm where he was picking up rocks and doing stuff all night long until he would get like two or three hours of sleep go back to school and did this every day until Just his childhood that was a story of many American farm. Yes. Yeah, that's not so bad And the days is that most of the other pans rams are actually all the rest of the pans rams turned out just fine But what happened to Carl?

Brain injury of course when Carl was a kid He had a mastoid removed from his left ear But as this was the 1890s and the family was dirt poor the surgery was done at home technically they were dirt rich Unfortunately, you can't sell dirt And of course that didn't work and the infection just got even worse and Carl was finally taken to a hospital Where a second operation was done and the more mastoid was removed successfully But it is extremely possible that the infection and or the home surgery caused some sort of brain damage

Yeah, like whatever it is in our brains that governs anger and hate and rage It just got knocked loose and Carl and he just could never get it under control again Well soon after the operation his dad left when Carl was seven and then after that Carl was getting into trouble constantly He got arrested for the first time at the age of eight for public intoxication And when Carl was 11 he broke into a neighbor's home and stole apples cake and a pistol because he sat in when he was sitting At 11 years old. He's sitting there drunk. He is the contemplating life because this point He's completely pulled out of school He's now just working on the farm and he's like, you know a lot of other kids could do whatever they want

They just I bet I could just take what they have like he literally just learned Like oh, I just go over there and I take their shirt Oh, of course, he was caught after he stole the apples the cake and the pistol He was beaten as he had been for most of his life up to that point And he was sent to the Minnesota State Training School in Red Wing, Minnesota And this is where pans Ram said he began to learn about man's inhumanity to man Minnesota State Training School was first and foremost a Christian facility Pans Ram said their method of training was to beat the goodness into him and the badness out

He wrote the more they beat me and whipped me The more I hated them and their damn religion Pans Ram got to the school. He said a man named John Moore sat him down Explained the rules and examined his penis and rectum thoroughly. You got to I don't know I don't know He then asked Carl if he had ever committed sodomy or had ever had sodomy committed on him And when Carl said when Carl told the guy he didn't know what sodomy was Carl said the officer explained it to him in Great detail quote-unquote great read detail. Yes, it sounds quite disturbing

So this is the one of the first incidences of his I guess he was being preyed on as a youth as well The reform school employees they were said to be worse than prison guards. They were underpaid They were under trained. They didn't know what they were doing They just shoved them in there with all these children. They're like figure it out. Yeah fix up fix So it's not gonna help. Yeah when pans Ram or any of the other boys were punished They were taken to what was known locally as the paint shop so name because that's where the administration administration would figuratively paint the boys bodies black and blue that wasn't where Bob Ross taught them how to paint mountain The boys would be stripped naked and bent over a large wooden block and a towel soaked in salt water would be spread on their backs

From the shoulders to their knees They would then be whipped with a leather strap that had little holes punched through it those little holes when they were hit It would make blisters and those blisters the more they hit them They would burst and the whipping continued and when the blisters burst That's when the salt water so towel was start to work on the open wounds. I mean you still got a sugar coated hat That's true. And by the end of all that pans Ram said naturally. I now love Jesus very much Yes, I love him so damn much that I would like to crucify him all over again Hmm now possibly the worst idea the guards came up with to punish pans Ram was to make him wash dishes and wait tables in

The officer's dining room giving Carl access to the officers food Oh, he would urinate into any liquid that was going to the dinner table And he jerk off on the ice cream and any dessert that came in front of awesome And he said they enjoyed it too because they told him so Well, I think I tried to jerk it off on the ice cream and pissing in the soup He tried to kill the officers with rat poison, but for the thankfully for the guard's sake This was the only time Carl got caught putting something in the food He was beaten and promptly taken out of wait service

So the more at the pans Ram got into trouble the more the guards beat him and the more they beat him the angrier and tougher He got then he came upon a way of dealing with shit that he would carry with him for the rest of his life If I couldn't injure those who injured me, then I'd would injure someone else. They call me a bit of a grouch That's a nice word for what he became 1905 pans Ram's brother drowned in a logging accident on Red Lake River Naturally pans Ram's mother asked if pans Ram could be sent home to help out on the farm They were down a man, but the superintendent of the reform school denied the request saying that Carl hadn't made enough progress yet And as retaliation like Carl would do time and again

He set fire to the building where the infamous paint shop was located. He was such a fucking holy terror He just burned down every single must have been great to see that horrible building building burned down with him It was always about revenge. Yeah, when you read his letters every time he like burned something down It's always in retaliation to something else. He's a man of weird principle. Yeah. Yeah, very strange principle Everything it's he is if I were to use a word to describe pans Ram It is deliberate like everything that he does has a reason So after burning down a fucking building at the age of 12 pans Ram got a tip from some of the smarter boys that if he ever wanted to get out of the reform school

He needed to do at the very least give the appearance of love in Jesus and it worked But pans Ram Naturally left a little bitter, you know He's a little bitter little bitter about the whole experience with the Christian reform school Yeah, that makes a little bit of sense I've been taught by Christians how to be a hypocrite and I've learned more about stealing lion Hayton burning and killing I

Had learned that a boys penis could be used for something besides to urinate with and then a rectum could be used for other Purposed and crepitating. Oh Oh, yes, I learned a hell of a lot from my expert instructors furnished to me free of charge by society In general and the state of Minnesota in particular From the treatment I received while there and the lessons I learned from it I had fully decided when I left there just how I would live my life And so in January Carl was released to the care of his mother and was sent back home But when he got there they immediately put him to work on the farm

So and he didn't want to do that shit and Carl decided it was time to hit the road At 13 years old Yeah But as cars weren't going to become in place for another couple decades hit in the road meant riding the rails and riding the rails meant hobos Bindle stiffs Mushfakers and rustabouts they learned that there's ways to hide on a train because normally you have also Railman and railbreakers guys. They're walking around like looking for people that are railroad bulls railroad bulls

Oh, yeah, no, yeah, listen any Woody Guthrie song you hear a lot about railroad bulls But I remember this one definition so so at the time there were three levels of homeless workers, right? There were bums that never work tramps that only work where they have to and hobos that Travel to work they travel and work Carl pansram is not our first This is the very first version of a hobo serial killer. Oh, yeah, there were hobos Bindle stiffs Mushfakers, they were also the curious American phenomenon of the Yeg now the Yeg does sound like a weird diet egg Now a Yeg was a kind of traveling burglar who was usually accompanied by his quote-unquote Boy and not boys and like oh, he's my boy. That's my boy

Yeah, that's my boy. No, it's boy. It's a young boy who got roped into riding the rails with a criminal I so yeah, it was a kind of weird like Pedophilic criminal tag team that would ride the rails and they and that's the thing there were so many of these guys They had their own subculture in the hobo world with their own like rules value systems and traditions. He wrote One experience I had during that time I never forgot and it had a direct bearing on a lot of my actions later in life That experience was being gang raped by four hobos in a boxcar in the middle of the night I mean he was a young kid. Yeah, obviously was a tiny bit hardened. He was kicked out on the street

He's out. He's riding the rails. He's alone He's is a bunch of people and the way he was is that he approached four guys They all seemed really nice and they were sweet to him and they were like talking about it And finally they were like I'm we're gonna do this thing to you that we all like to do to each other And he's just like I don't really know about that and then it became a very seminal experience for him Now not too long after that Carl ran into a group of men in a livery stable. They were all getting drunk And they said hey Carl, we got some beer try the beer, but the whiskey's better

And so they just kept giving him more and more to drink and they got Carl so wasted he passed out and he was again Gang rape and this happened a couple months. Yeah between each other and about this Carl wrote I Did not want to learn these lessons, but I found out that it isn't what one wants in this world that one gets Force and might make right Perhaps things shouldn't be that way, but that's the way they are I learned to look with suspicion and hatred on everybody The years went on and that idea persisted in my mind above all others I figure that if I was strong enough and clever enough to impose my will on others. I was right. I

Still believe that to this day Another lesson I learned at that time was that there were a lot of very nice things in the world Among them were whiskey and sodomy But it depended on who and how they were used so Carl spent a few more months hopping between boxcars robbing the whole way Until he was arrested for burglary in Butte, Montana and sent to another reform school There he attempted to murder a guard for giving him a hard time by beating his head in with a piece of iron Didn't yeah, he wasn't successful But first troubles the school sent Carl to a hospital and clipped his foreskin to prevent him from masturbating

No, did they think the power was in the foreskin? Like a Samson situation the biblical story where they're just like we know where he gets all of his strength You think if you make a man more European like he's gonna become less horny Rather than like why would they go about that procedure? But anyway, yeah about the whole clip in situation Carl said how the hell they figured that would stop me is more than I could see I Can't yet. It's like cutting Beethoven's fingers off. He would have learned to play with his feet Possibly true So a Carl was at that reform school. He made friends with a kid named Jimmy

So Carl and Jimmy escaped together, which was the first of Carl's many successful and unsuccessful jail breaks now This is probably the only true happy period of his life Yeah, it's like eight months strengths with a stretch with him and Jimmy going around doing their favorite thing in the world Which is Rob Church's and burn them down Yep Eventually the two split in Fargo with Jimmy going to jail for burglary and Carl heading back home for a couple days Before going out West again and there for some reason he decided to join the army because at this time The Indian Wars were just winding down

Yeah, the Indian Wars that like the major Indian Wars had only ended maybe like 10 15 years earlier But there were still a lot of skirmishes happening Across the American West with like little pockets of resistance with a certain Indian tribes Carl he lasted like a month and then after a month. He was caught trying to smuggle out Two army overcoats a suit and a shitload of gold collar buttons Oh, yeah, he was planning to just go to town fence them real fast and then come on back. He was caught court-martialed and sentenced to three years at For Leavenworth the worst military prison in all of America and this sentence was passed down by the then secretary of war and future President William Howard Taft and amazingly

Pansram would actually take revenge on Taft 13 years later So Leavenworth was a military prison where convicts were assigned greats from first to third first we get special privileges and third We'd get hard time Pansram very quickly found himself a third grader Yeah Third graders were put under a total silent system and if any of them broke a rule the entire company was forced to stand at attention all night long There were beatings of course They would also use straight jackets on men lacing them up so tight the men would pass out

And they would just call it giving them the jacket No, the worst punishment at Leavenworth was getting fitted with a stereotypical ball and chain which prisoners refer to as quote Earning the baby. What does that mean earn the baby the baby because the the ball weighed 50 pounds And it was worn day and night even when you slept you still had to wear the ball and chain like that whole stereotypical like cartoonish ball and chain shit It's all real. It's all real and he would wear a big striped suit and he'd have to carry it in his hands when they would do the gigantic like That forced marches they were doing they had to he worked in the rock quarry and the rock quarry was four miles away from the prison So he essentially took this gigantic iron ball this 50 pound ball and walked four miles both ways back and forth Did eight and a half nine hours a hard labor one of the craziest versions of CrossFit to ever exist

I was gonna say so the prison the the man who ran the prison was like maybe we should just get the prisoners to be like Stronger than like Brutus In no way will they overthrow us Yeah, he did this for six six months of that every single day And this is what he wrote about that shit what that did to him. God. Good Lord. Was he fucking strong? At this time of my life I was about 20 years old Six foot tall and weighed about 190 pounds of concentrated hell-fired man inspired Meanness I was as strong as two or three average men and half a spider-man

But all of that treatment did one good thing for me The worst the food was and the horror they worked me the stronger I got I quit my old habit of masturbating because he couldn't do that and hard work and punishment at the same time He's masturbated so much. Yeah, the work kept them from master This is what Carl later wrote about his attitude upon being released from Leavenworth in 1910. I had fun I feel flirty This is how this is really what he's it. Yeah, yeah for some reason it didn't help his attitude. No shocking I was the spirit of meanness personified. I had not at this time got so that I hated myself

I only hated everybody else Carl was released from Leavenworth in 1910 and headed to Denver, Colorado There he had another experience which proved to be fairly Formational although it could just be an excuse he ended up using so he wouldn't have to say he was out and out gay Yeah, yeah, yeah, he had a lot of excuses about not wanting to be with women, right? Yeah, absolutely now about a week after Carl arrived in Denver He came down with what he called a first-class case of gonorrhea. I do like that. He's like it's first class It's not an economy class case of gonorrhea. This is first class. I'll have my martini when I fly

Please, you know, it's first class because they serve you dish of hot knots Oh, this is so disgusting. This is what he actually said about that experience He fought it so hard the lady doth protest too much Because he met a man in a Denver holding facility, which is different now. It's not 420 Denver now It used to be just the mountain town before fucking old horse teeth John L. Way carved that town That's right It used to be a rough place And so he went into a jail for a couple months for stealing a bike

He started talking to this safecracker now when he said it was much older than him He was about 20 years old because he just got not 11 worth meanwhile He is 190 pounds of six foot to six a pile of muscle. Yeah, he's a ripped hard angry face little man Right, he met the safecracker Then he said that he was super curious about learning how to blow safes because he wanted to up as much money It's terminology and so he goes and he gets released He was only for a couple months, but the the man the other dude the safecracker had a five-year term So he gets out he robs a hardware store. He takes a bunch of files Carl does Carl does

He takes a bunch of files straps them to his legs underneath his pants Which is a lot of effort. Yeah in order to break it back into the jail to release his quote-unquote friend That's kind of nice if only for fucking Love in jail Not gonna horrible route that we'll get into that's kind of sweet So he broke into jail and then got caught okay The fucking moron because obviously not the most again inconspicuous human being in the face of the planet Yeah, they immediately put him back in jail. And so this is what he wrote in response

The things that got from old Cal was that he thought I was in love with him and he tried to mount me But I wasn't broke your ride and he was so I wrote him at that time He was about 50 years old and I was 20 or 21, but I was strong and he was weak. All right hot stuff After Denver Carl continued his life of crime mostly robbing churches until he arrived at the Kansas State Fair and joined Colonel Dickie's Circle D Wild West show It is just as you can imagine what they do after hours They didn't last long there and was fired for constantly fighting everything and everyone Including the horses. It is a scene out of Blazing Saddle. Yeah, it is real. He punched a horse right part of the reason

Why he was fired this guy Is a little stinker. Yeah Carl saw the Circle D again at the Missouri State Fair a few weeks after getting fired and in Retaliation burned down both their horse and cooked in before immediately leaving for st. Louis There Carl worked as a strike breaker for the Illinois Central Railroad No, this is how much of a badass Carl was that he'd even fight for the man He just wanted a job fighting and there were so many jobs where you could legally fight in 1910. It's amazing There's so many goon squads. Well, a lot of times these strikes would happen and the companies would send in strike breakers So otherwise known as the living hell of scabs black lead black legs or knob sticks

God and he loved all those names for himself. Yeah, those are all different names. He called his penis It could be Carl then made his way down to Jacksonville, Texas and on the way picked up two pistols a little robbery money from a church or two and in his words a Curly-haired blue-eyed rosy cheek fat boy now He was a yag and so he had a boy captain But when Carl and the fat boy were arrested in Texas the cops took pans rams guns But left him the fat boy. How do they take the fat boy leave the gun? There's no constitutional right to the fat boy You cannot get between a yag and his boy. You absolutely can't I get between a mama chimp and a baby chimp

I don't know you're trying to take the boy Man you're heavier than you look you may are you made of steel? And the two were sent to the road gang where the boy was taken away there Hmm only to be given over the bar to the boss man so he could become his fat boy. I don't understand What's going on fat boy from what I could tell you from being an alter boy fat boys are currency I guess so and when the boss man got tired of the fat boy fat boy got sent back to pans ram and the prisoners Oh, my point. He's all he's got all the boss man's oils all over me. Can you go back to the nest disgusting stuff happening now? In hobo terms the boy was what you called a punk so in Carl's words a

Punk is a poof turn a poof turn is a prater and a prater is similar to a fruiter The only difference between the two is that one likes to sit on it and the other likes to eat it It's like if dr. Seuss was horrible. Yes Anyway back in the prison camp with his fat boy pans rams 40 days were up and he was ready to head out Into the world alone, but the boss refused to let him go Carl tried to escape as was his want, but he was caught and earned some time at the snorting pole What the hell now I've been I have had some fun nights Sounds like a Paris Hilton activity. Yes snorting pole. What do you guys do there? Oh bunch of cocaine?

No, the snorting pole was a fairly common form of punishment in the southern penal system in the early 20th century How it worked was a rope was run through an eye hook affixed to the top of a 12-foot pole And the rope would be attached to a pair of handcuffs snapped around the wrist of the prisoner The prisoner then be pulled upward by the wrist above his head until his toes were barely Touching the ground he would then be strip naked and whipped with what was called a red heifer Which was an eight-foot-long snake whip particularly? They used black snake whips which meant that they had a load of lead at the bottom that could be used as a blackjack We don't have to whip you at all though the snorting pole was so called because when men were whipped

They would in pans rams words jerk yell jump and snort and about the experience Carl said When a man is let down after being whipped He has blood on his back and murder in his heart Carl saying that he had murdered in his heart. He would not act on that just yet after being released Carl set back out on Simple mayhem he would rob chicken coops and burn him down or set fire to prairie grass or the woods or Anything that would burn because for a while that was how pans room. That's how he got out his frustration That's how we got out his anger He just burned shit down until finally one day that wasn't enough anymore

Carl would also take pot shots at the windows of farmhouses from the freight trains He was riding just to occupy time and who knows if he actually hit anybody while he was taking those pot shots Right and when he ran a fell a foul of a railroad official Carl would pull out the Bible He kept with them along with an accounts book forged with evidence of him being a good Hard work and Christian down on his luck and usually that was good enough to get him out of trouble He keeps doing that for the rest of his life I even think that the game with Henry lesser is a long con that he was trying to get on the other side of Henry lesser Nor maybe help him get out of jail, but pens rams lies and schemes with all these railroad officials

Didn't always work out quite so simply is him just telling a lie and having the guard tell him to move on One night Carl was riding in a coal car with two other hobos They were found by a railroad breakman breakmen being the guy who would apply the brakes to individual cars on the trains when need be Me and this guy would walk from train to train to train Usually the breakman was the guy that discovered hobos right in the ramp. This seems like a very dangerous job Extremely dangerous job and when the breakman started hassling the three hobos asking them who they were what they were doing Carl pulled a gun pointed it at the breakman and said I'm the fellow that goes around the world doing people good The breakman understandably started backtrack and saying he never threw hobos off trains

Then he offered to buy the trio dinner along with giving Carl everything he had on him And Carl responded by overpowering the breakman and raping him on the floor of the coal car And when he was done Carl then turned the gun toward the other two bombs and made them Rape the breakman just as he had very he's very intense He's extremely intense and you can tell in his writings anytime he talks about sodomy or writes about it You can hear the twinkle in his eye He's trying to freak the squares a little bit a little bit The idea is to bring it up all to comes he knows how unsettling that is to everyone to use it as a weapon

Basically, he's weirdly using his sexuality as a weapon well Kind of like Eileen Warnows in that weird way where it becomes weaponized and it becomes this thing because you what is what especially a 1910s man, what is he most afraid of getting poopy food in a box car some things never change Just feel that way yes absolutely and San Francisco pans Ram was picked up for trying to fence a stolen watch in a bar called the Louv After getting caught for stealing the watch Carl was told if he pleaded guilty to steal in the watch He'd get a short sentence, but instead of getting a short sentence. He was given seven years in the Oregon State Penitentiary Known to be at the time one of the worst prisons in America, which was saying a lot yes, and and the Oregon State Penitentiary because of this essentially he he now viewed himself as he trusted somebody and they

They reneged on their word the prosecutor the prosecutor reneged on his word And this is going to be sort of like his professor Xavier school for two like of special children right of Criminality once he gets an Oregon State Penitentiary. This is going to pick it up a notch So the administrator of Oregon State was a man by the name of Minto who ran the prison as What could be considered a model of the for-profit prisons that operate in America to this day? Minto cut the pay of working inmates from a dollar a day down to a quarter to save money And then he funneled cash that once went to the families of prisoners into what he called an Institution betterment fund which was used to buy machinery that earned the state even more profits of which Minto more than likely

Took a cut and shit like this is still happening today And in fact, it's I mean it now it's going up to the highest levels of power and in Oregon State Minto his staff was just as heartless as he was his main guy was Jim vinegar Cooper Known in the prison as the man of blogs This guy is crazy vinegar Cooper Yeah, like he would wear gloves and he loved roses Yeah, and religious hymns like he would just listen to religious hymns as he whipped you and laughed

Yeah, he'd sing him to himself. Yeah, and he would break prisoners by lashing them with a cat a nine-tail So it's a guy named vinegar lashing you with a cat a nine-tails in a room full of roses While he's saying oh lovely thou art my god sounds like a Madonna video It might be a Madonna video, but the cat a nine-tails that wasn't even close to the worst torture used at Oregon State That honor fell to the hummingbird The hummingbird was a steel bathtub filled with four to five inches of ice cold water The prisoner would be chained hand and foot and lied inside the torturer would take a sponge Much like the one used in the electric chair to direct the current and connect that sponge to an electric battery

Using wires two or three minutes and the victim is ready for the grave or the madhouse Yet there is not a single mark or bruise on his whole body Oregon State like most overly punitive prisons was already a powder keg waiting to go off by the time pans Ram showed up And pans Ram's constant escape attempts did nothing to ease the tensions either this man was a One one man riot. Yeah, so one of the first riots He did is that he broke basically he waited for a break in the shift and the officer left He somehow had held the door so that he could pop out of it I forget exactly how he got out of the prison out of his cell

But he was locked alone on the bridge with everybody of the officers on the outside He stuffed all of the locks of everybody else's cell including the door leading into the hallway with rags So people couldn't get through and then he burned everything in the hallway And so they had to put him back in isolation. So he was just fucking maniac. Yeah, and all this stuff that the His prison records. I mean they actually look those up and he did all of this shit Wow, this isn't just him being trying to sound like a badass and saying that he did all this shit that he actually didn't do All of this stuff is on record. Hmm. Well panzan tried to escape maybe half a dozen times and every single time pans Ram tried To escape there would be a half dozen inmates that would try to escape right behind him in the exact same way

And even though the attempts weren't successful pans Ram wrote if I couldn't escape I would help everybody else that I could yeah, and the person who pans Ram eventually got out was a 21 year old kid named Otto Hooker And one night Hooker managed to get outside the walls and Warden Minto decided to join the hunt with the shotgun But Hooker had managed in the interim to get a hold of a gun himself and before the manhunt was over Warden Minto was dead by Otto Hooker's hand Minto was replaced by his brother John who cracked down on the prison even harder But that only made pans Ram spread more mayhem

But when pans Ram got back to his cell he continued to sow discord He'd bang on his bucket all night long He'd scream constantly and he would scream and make so much noise He was down in the basement he was down in the hall But still other prisoners would hear him and they would respond by screaming and banging their buckets as well And it would spread throughout the entire prison John Minto would set up all night because it would work its way through the vents Yeah, and he would sit in the jail with like eyes open staring at the ceiling and just hearing all Night long drive him nuts

Yeah, and eventually this chaos led to the escape of two more prisoners named cocky O'Brien and step it off Smith Oh, all right And since the administration couldn't punish cocky O'Brien and step it a half Smith They punished the chief troublemaker maker instead Carl. They took him down to the basement stripped him naked chained him to a door and unleashed the fire hose Sounds fun if it's like that means they're 50 cent 50 cent firebombs And another example of Carl taking out his anger on anyone he could in place of the people He really wanted to hurt Carl wrote this is more than 10 years ago

but still Every time I catch an Oregonian and get him in a corner. I give him hell Many a man has paid for what those men done to me that Sunday morning. I'm coming for Fred Armisen Now news of Carl's hosing reached all the way to the state house and the second warden Minto was removed for cruelty This was a statewide scandal. It was a huge deal Now that warden Minto when he was fired He was replaced with a reformer named Charles a Murphy now this is very interesting

This is super interesting stuff and Murphy began his reign at Oregon State by abolishing the hole the bullpen and all the torture And he made potato peeling the worst punishment an inmate could receive which earned him the nickname Spud Murphy. Yeah, I love Spud Murphy. Yeah, Murphy also up the quality of the food fix the phone lines and made more jobs Available to prisoners and after these reforms were put into place tensions eased and disciplinary reports plummeted But even though all these reforms were put into place pans Ram didn't particularly care and kept trying to escape He was caught again with a saw in his cell But Murphy responded instead of sending him to the hole of the bullpen by increasing his rations and giving him magazines to read

Why are you taking off and unless it's golf digest here it is When pans Ram was caught yet again Murphy called him into his office pans Ram Immediately identified himself as the worst guy in the prison. He was a lost cause Murphy couldn't possibly reach him so Murphy in a Gigantic gamble told pans Ram that the next day the gates of the prison would be open to Carl Who could go wherever he wanted just so long as he gave his word that he would be back And this is what Carl said happened. I fully intended to escape at the first chance But something went wrong

somehow Old boy Spud was as good as his word He opened the gates and I was free to go any damn place. I want I Just stood there dumbfounded and so surprised at what I couldn't understand that I didn't try to escape at all That evening I walked up to the gate of the prison and demanded to be let back in now after that Carl started to change Carl was put to work as a trustee outside the walls And he was allowed to stay out in the evenings after dark

But it wasn't to last Carl was still facing four more years of his sentence And one night after a few drinks Carl started to think that there was no real reason to go back to the prison When he could be having this good of a time all the time He wrote the night was warm and the moon was shining bright a free train was whistling down in the yards Calling me I figured anyway I answered but he was recaptured after a week in a spectacular gun battle because he said that he was so sad to return back To Murphy having disappointed him. He was more. He was more scared of disappointing him than going back to jail Yeah, because when he got back to jail

Murphy was just as he was extremely disappointed and he had decided he was gonna make an example of him He reopened the bullpen and kept Carl hanging by handcuffs on the cell door But Carl, you know usually when they punished him he'd scream he'd yell he'd destroy everything he could But during his entire time this punishment didn't say a word. I thought Spud Murphy was gonna make him peel the big potatoes That's the worst But once Carl was finally placed back in general population He saw it out of his cell stole a trusty cook uniform Used a bar spreader to take out the last obstacle and escaped Oregon State forever

So in the summer of 1920 pans Ram showed up in New Haven, Connecticut to settle a score with his old Nemesis president William Howard Taft Taft about seven years out of office at this point. I hate it when a fat boy is allowed to grow up to be a fat president The fattest of all so Carl broke into the house of an ex-president And stole forty thousand dollars in jewelry and bonds plus a 45 cult automatic Carl used the money he made fence in the jewels to buy a yacht another yacht the Akista Carl made his way to New York City in his yacht and docked off City Island in the Bronx He would make his way all the way down to the bottom tip of Manhattan a 25 South Street and

Find sailors who seem to have a bit of cash and promised him big pay and easy work Up on his yacht and when the sailor would inevitably say yes Carl would have them bring all their possessions up to the Bronx and this was a pretty smart move Get off part get all of your money. That's my shoes. Are you okay? Well, the genius part of that was that Carl was close enough for the trip But he was far enough away where the sailors couldn't leave anything behind I mean the tip of Manhattan all the way up to the Bronx I mean, that's a what ten mile or maybe like three or four miles

I say my schooner. It's three miles if you go how many depends how many knots you're going as the crow flies It depends if the jib is wired or the scoot is full. That's right. That's correct There Carl would get them as drunk as he could as soon as he could what we call pulling a Dahmer Sometimes he would sodomize him But sometimes he'd just let him go to sleep and while they were asleep Carl would use the very gun He stole from President William Howard Taft Wow to end the sailors life with a single shot to the head He would then tie a rock around their dead body take it about a mile out into the sea in his rowboat and drop the victim Overboard he only stopped when other people docked at City Island

Notice how much loot he was accumulating him just dressed like a fancy queen with a big Yeah, I'm on just drape with jewels and many layers of sailors clothes. Yes The next two sailors he hired were kept alive and the three of them started traveling down the east coast Robbing yachts together, but they only got as far as Atlantic City before they got caught in a squall and were run A ground now undeterred Carl immediately went back to Connecticut to the same town where he had robbed President William Howard Taft looking for another score of the same size No, you could buy another yacht, but on this burglary attempt Carl Panzram was unsuccessful and he was arrested for burglary and did six months in jail

Now once Carl was out on bail. He decided it was time to see the world and he skipped out He sailed to Europe and from there caught a ship to Africa And this is where Carl would leave his humanity behind forever and commit some of his most despicable crimes Ensuring his name would always be shorthand for evil son of a bitch Wow An angola Carl worked as a slave driver for the Sinclair oil company while there he bought an 11-year-old girl from her parents for eight dollars Making sure she was a virgin before he made the purchase He said he took her back to a shack on the first night and back to the family shack on the second as he said she was not in

Fact a virgin the parents exchanged that girl for their younger daughter an eight-year-old Carl said he took her back to a shack and thought that maybe she was a virgin But it didn't look like it to him now personally I think this whole thing was Carl in the most evil way possible because he was still a little gun shy from the Denver gonorrhea incident. I think he was trying to prove that he wasn't gay It seems like when he bought this girl He proved the exact opposite as he said he took the eight-year-old girl back quit looking for virgins and started looking for a boy The boy he chose was a table waiter back at the Sinclair oil camp Carl said I

Educated him into the art of sodomy as practiced by civilized people But he was only a savage and didn't appreciate the benefits of civilization I'm not sure if any of that's true Kid told his boss who fired Carl for the offense But didn't go quite as far as to actually have Carl arrested and Carl beat his boss half to death for his troubles Carl went to the US consul's office to try to get back to the states But Sinclair had called ahead and the consul refused to help

They said we're never going back to America at least not on our dime You got to stay here because you are a monster. Yeah Now while trying to figure out what to do next Carl was sitting in a park next to the camp when a 12 year old boy came along Carl let him out to a gravel pit about a quarter mile from the camp Sodomized him and bashed his head in with a rock Carl said his brains were coming out of his ears when I loved him And he will never be any dutter He is still there and as an added bit of mayhem Carl burned down one of the Sinclair oil rigs before he left camp Causing hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage an incident which was well

Documented like many of Carl's crimes, so we know that that actually happened And that's the thing about many of Carl's crimes and we'll we'll be talking about this a lot more In the next few minutes is that people went back? They looked they checked out his claims and a lot of times it checked out From that oil camp Carl bought a ticket down to the coast to libido bay and hired a canoe with a crew of six locals To ostensibly go hunting for crocodiles on the river But when the crew had their backs turned to Carl, he shot him one by one reloaded and shot him again in each of their heads To make sure they were dead

He then threw the bodies overboard and let the crocodiles do the rest Carl traveled from Africa to Portugal Where he tried to get passage back to America from the US consul there But Carl's reputation was so horrible that word of him had traveled all the way to Portugal from Africa And this is in the 20s the only kind of news that traveled fast was bad news and Carl was without a doubt bad news and carrier pigeons So when the US consul refused to give Carl passage Carl stowed away in an English ship And eventually made his way back to new york in early summer 1922 By july Carl had murdered another boy this time in Salem, Massachusetts He was a 12 year old named Henry McMahon. So Carl beat that boy to death with a rock after

Sodomizing him and Carl said he left the boy there with his brains coming out of his ears And while pansram would never go on trial for this murder when he confessed to it years later Cops and Salem said that the details Carl gave matched up with the facts they had on hand and locals fingered Carl as the guy They had last seen the boy with I don't think we should not be fingering. Yeah, I was good. Why would we say fingered? Now after the murder Carl acting as a yag picked up a boy named George Now with George in tow Carl shot and killed a man who would try to steal a yacht

That Carl had just stolen in Rhode Island using a gun that Carl had stolen from the new haven police commissioners yacht Damn now after the murder George decided that he had just about enough of a life of crime and Carl Let him go back home and when George got back he told police all about Carl's activities And they caught up with Carl and nyack new york and arrested him for sodomy burglary and robbery But Carl actually beat this rap only because he made an agreement with a lawyer that the lawyer could have Carl's yacht as payment for services render What has happened you can get away with with all these crimes if you got a yacht But Carl yeah, he beat the rap he gave the yacht

He beat the rap he got out of there But when the lawyer went to register the boat it came up as stolen And the original owner came back from Providence and took it back. He got pans rammed indeed A few days after Carl's release in august of 1923 Carl went back to new haven, Connecticut and found another boy But this one he gagged with a handkerchief before strangling him with his own belt And this one Carl said he quote enjoyed most and details of his confession again Matched up with details the new heaven police had on record But it wouldn't be the murders that Carl was arrested for the night after the belt murder

Carl was caught robbing an office in larchmont new york and was sentenced to five years in prison after being free for half A decade robbing raping and killing as he pleased. You know, I think it's good. They arrested him I'm just going to throw that out there Carl was sent to clinton prison aka danimora located in upstate new york danimora was often called the Siberia of America Essentially the precursor to alcatraz. It was alcatraz before there was alcatraz Now what made danimora special was that since it was so isolated the town in which the prison was located was almost completely Populated by people who either worked at or had worked at the prison And this made prison guard life a kind of tradition which was passed down from father to son

It was an almost Tribalistic life with its own value systems all of which were centered around the punishment of the inmate Carl began a predictable run of prison mayhem followed by an escape attempt But unlike the others this one would not only be unsuccessful But would be disastrous for pans rams health When they said one of the most interesting things about danimora is that it had 30 foot walls pans ram somehow without the guard seeing him built an entire Ladder made out of gardening equipment. This is how clever he was

So Carl tried scaling the wall using his homemade ladder, but of course it broke And Carl fell 30 feet down to a concrete slab Breaking both his ankles both his legs fracturing his spine and in his words Rupturing himself not good He was caught trying to sodomize another prisoner in their hospital bed And was thrown back into a cell where he would stay for another three years waiting out his sentence What a maniac he wrote my whole mind was bent on figuring out different ways to annoy and punish my enemies

And everybody was my enemy In an extensive letter to lesser and this is talking about how much pans ram thought about murder pans ram wrote about the plans for mass murder He concocted in danimora while he was sitting there waiting for his bones to knit back together Plans he very well could have carried out had he not been so devastatingly injured from the fall Now remember this this is eight months of solitary They put him in alone his legs do not work. He is his spine is all fucked up He's laying in a cot staring at the ceiling thinking of

Terrorists acts. Yeah, that's nuts. This man is very patient A lot of time to think not a lot of options either No Now the first plan started with a few robberies to gather up money for dynamite formaldehyde and a few hundred pounds of sulfur Carl would then go to a railroad tunnel between miersdale pennsylvania and cumberland maryland a location He had already picked out. He had it in mind Once there he would lay a contact bomb on the tracks in the middle of the tunnel Next to the large glass containers full of formaldehyde along with the hundreds of pounds of sulfur

And when the passenger train hit the bomb the bomb would explode Trapping the train and filling the tunnel with deadly gas killing everyone aboard the train within minutes If there was only a cartoon duo that could stop him like rocky and bullwinkle He does seem like a very strange. It's like an old timey sort of terrorism. I suppose in a way Carl would wait outside the tunnel and shoot anyone who would come out And when he was sure everyone was dead car would put on a gas mask and loot the corpses going from train car to train car And to ensure he'd have enough time

He'd also blow the bridge behind him that the train had just gone over and a carl carried this out The body count would have been in the hundreds But with the loot car would gain from the robbery He planned to invest all of it in the stock market and maximize profits by starting a war between england and the united states Thank god. I thought you were gonna say he was gonna buy a yacht This is how he planned to start a war between England and america. He had actually a very reasonable plan. Sure first He would wait until diplomatic relations were strained which they actually were between england and the united states in 1927

And carl would wait until a british ship was anchored in the Hudson river in new york city Then dressed in a u.s. Navy uniform carl would have fixed a navy flag to a couple of small boats Load him up with tnt and anchor them next to the british ship He would then light 15 minute fuses on all the tnt and conspicuously paddle away in a third boat Hoping that someone would see him in his u.s. Navy uniform The carl's hope was that an englishman would see either the boats or carl in a navy uniform and blame the united states Starting a war and if that didn't work carl played from the other side by buying a british ship and blowing up one of the Locks in the panama canal

He had different angles for this double angles and his and it was really close because back in the day I mean when you were saying it's like there was an actual real tension happening between the uk and the united states It's like he could have done it. Yeah, and technically he would have been like weirdly the most important man in american history But thankfully less than two months after carl was released from danimora He embarked on a reckless crime spree committing ten burglaries and a murder in baltimore But carl wouldn't be taken down for the murder This time it was nothing more than the theft of a radio That would put carl pansram in prison for the rest of his life and a murder while inside that would take him to the hangman's

Noose, oh, but he did get to hear the carter family and they're a great wonderfully wonderfully talented family On august 10th 1928 a fence named jo chivinski rolled over on pansram after being caught pawning a radio that carl had stolen from the house of a well-known dentist in Washington dc Oh and carl was arrested he treated the charge like a joke saying he killed too many people to worry about this charge But it would be while pansram was awaiting trial on the radio charge that he would meet a 25 year old prison guard named henry lesser Now lesser seemed like a pretty good dude as far as prison guards in the 20s went

He kind of reminds me of like tom hanks in the green mile Oh, okay Now lesser was immediately curious about pansram from the moment he saw him You know like we said a pansram is a man with presence So lesser walked up to pansram cell and asked what's your racket to which pansram replied What I do is reform people and the only way to reform them is to kill them And for some reason lesser decided he wanted to know more and struck up an unlikely friendship But what finally won pansram over was when lesser after pansram had gone through a particularly brutal prison torture for trying to loosen

his cell bars lesser gave pansram a dollar Game a dollar, but I mean this is 1928. I know Here's a dollar. Well, this actually brought tears to pansram's eyes He was almost crying and he told henry lesser that no screw had ever done him a favor before And because of that pansram chose henry lesser to be the one to hear the full story of the life of carl pansram It's time to tell his story maybe

So whenever lesser could he would smuggle a pen and paper in a pansram cell and pansram would fill each paper Carefully numbering each page before leaving them between his cell bars for henry to find the next morning And these pages are where we get the vast majority of our information about pansram Or at least what gave writers and researchers a roadmap to find out more Now while all this is going on between lesser and pansram pansram was starting to gain some attention During one of his torture sessions carl had confessed to the murders of the three boys in philadelphia newhaven And salem and like we said the details were all checking out So when carl went on trial for the radio theft a crowd was gathered and pansram took the opportunity

To say a few words for himself in open court Now the way these words are formulated You're going to say that he understood the gravity of having everybody's attention And he really he was trying to cement his place in history. Yeah, you people got me here charged with housebreaking and larceny I am guilty I broke in and I stole All what I didn't steal I smashed If the owner had come in I would have knocked his brains out

There's something else you ought to know While you were trying me here, I was trying all of you too I found you guilty Some of you I've executed If I live I'll execute some more of you I hate the whole human race You think I'm playing crazy, don't you? I'm not

I know right from wrong No delusions. I don't hear anything you don't hear my conscience doesn't bother me I have no conscience I believe the whole human race should be exterminated I'll do my best to do it every chance I get Now I've done my duty You do yours I am the Batman

You get the feeling his defense attorney is just like yeah, stop cut it out cut it. Oh my goodness And for that little speech Carl pansram was sentenced to 25 years at the federal penitentiary in levelmoreth, kansas The same prison he had served time in after the army when he was a teenager Hmm for on january 30th 1929 lesser took pansram on his transfer to leavenworth Once there the two shook hands and promised to write and write they did This is such a weird story Pansram's letters to lesser are worlds apart from the biography pansram had written while house in the washington dc Jail he talked about the articles he enjoyed reading his favorite philosophers

He left consen niches and his opinion that lesser should get out of the prison racket Well pansram even gave lesser business ideas such as pansram's admittedly good idea to invest in the dehydration of food stuffs as a means of transportation Oh, that's good. And then it could be lesser is more Which would be a good slogan because you've dehydrated food which it looks lesser But in reality it's more and when lesser wouldn't write back soon enough for pansram's liking Carl would play the part almost that of a wounded lover. Oh I received your last letter july 29th This is my third letter since then. What's the matter?

Don't you get all of my letters or don't you care to answer them if you don't want to write to me? Just say so and i'll not bother anymore. I saw what you did. You left me on red I see the three dots. What are you trying to say? Hey, but it wasn't all bananas and bitching for Carl pansram at leavenworth On Carl's first day when he was taking in for processing. He told the officer in charge I'll kill the first man who bothers me and six months later pansram would make good on the killing threat Upon arrival at leavenworth. Carl was assigned duty in the laundry room Which is overseen by a hard-ass kkk leader named robert warrenke. Why would this guy bother pansram?

I mean, he knew it wasn't going to turn out right. Well, Carl said in he said in open court He told henry lessor. He said it on the transfer there. He told the deputy chief He told the guy who who brought him in again and again and again and again I'm going to kill the first man who bothers me. Don't bother him So after a few months of being a good boy pansram started laundering a few extra handkerchiefs for some pocket change for the prison candy Now warrenke soon caught Carl and busted him down to third grade status, which was just as bad in leavenworth as it was The first time carl was there Third grade prisoners were sent to solitary confinement were placed under strict silence rules couldn't receive mail couldn't use the commissary

And weren't even allowed to watch the monthly prison movie. Oh, that's so sad And for busting him down pansram swore to kill warrenke as warrenke had indeed bothered him Now usually when a prisoner was busted to third grade the prisoner would be reassigned from the person who busted him down to avoid the inevitable revenge, but because pansram and this is the Amazing irony of it because pansram had specifically threatened to kill warrenke Carl was sent right back to the laundry room because warrenke didn't want to lose face Because if he lost face then he would lose respect and in a prison like leaven worth a hard-ass place like that respect is The number one thing that you have it's the only thing you have you lose that and you're done

It's the currency Yeah Now when pansram came back to the laundry room from the hole the other prisoners said that carl had calmed down Or at least appeared to and eventually faded into the background But in a letter to henry lessor carl wrote i'm still on my same job and like it less each day I'm getting all set for a change. It won't be long now. It seems scary. Yeah Yeah, so on june 20th 1929 carl was walking into the laundry room when he passed by a half-built washing machine That had an open packing crate next to it which was filled with 10 pound iron bars

Just out why are we shipping these depressants? Why yeah, what would be the point of that? Just be like use if you want to escape Carl picked one up and hid behind a steel support beam on the opposite side of the room and waited for robert warrenke And when warrenke entered the room warrenke stopped in front of the same washing machine to take a look at the construction Possibly to wonder why there was a large crate with a bunch of 10 pound iron bars Just seems to be a mistake And I know that i'm also a grand wizard of the kkk and i'm like fine with that But this is a big mistake. That is a mistake And when warrenke turned around there stood carl pansram and with the loud roar

pansram brought the iron bar down on warrenke's head sending him to the floor pansram bashed warrenke's head again and again until the foreman's head was an Unrecognizable mush of brains and bone Take that dad pansram then turned his rage towards the other men already at work and he started swinging the bar at them But his carl wasn't as surprised he once was due to the fall he missed again and again And pansram then limped out of the laundry and into the office of the deputy warden to take his revenge On that guy for denying carl's work transfer

But lucky for the deputy warden That guy was in another wing having a conversation with guard captain fred bull dorm shirty morrison pansram moved on to the adjoining clerks room and started swinging the bar again But he didn't hit anybody that time either and he also chased a trustee to the dining room But never managed to catch him due again to the limp carl then made his way down to the isolation block Open the nearest cell and sat down with a relaxed look on his face satisfied with the mission at least Partway's accomplished so on december 5th carl pansram was indicted for first degree murder Which sat just fine with him because carl at this point he wanted to die finally

He's getting charged with murder. Is this the first time this is the first time good lord And also he needed to get a kill on the books I think he knew in order to solidify his reputation as an all american folk tale He needed to prove that he could murder and I think that's why he did it in such a public way to be like I'm not full of shit. I will do this again and you let me out of here. I'll kill everybody But carl he actually had a surprisingly hard time making it to the hangman's news But not for lack of trying to carl's plan was to act as his own attorney plead not guilty to ensure the harshest punishment And essentially demand death during his defense

But the feds refused carl's request to act as his own attorney and the lawyer they did assign him Wanted a plead insanity that was the only way he could find out of it and carl's smart ass ways seemed only Confirm the whole insanity defense like when he wrote his last will and testament He left his corpse to a dog catcher in east gram forks, minnesota and bequeathed to mankind an unspecified curse It's awesome But carl's biggest obstacle was the fact that capital punishment was at that time illegal in kansas Where leavenworth was located? However, since the prism was on federal land the murder was a federal case

So the death penalty was on the table u.s.a But that didn't stop local death penalty opponents from coming to carl's aid Very much against his will when carl found out that advocates are trying to get his death sentence overturned carl wrote them an extensive point by point letter On why he should be allowed to die and why they should leave the whole business alone This is him writing to his advocates concerning their attempts to save his life Oh dear look. We got with that dear young carl panstram. He sent us a letter. I meant he wants to say thank you So very much. Well open it. Greg. Open the letter. Greg. All right. I'll open it

But I know he will be very thankful for it. We're doing the lord's work, Greg The only thanks you or your kind will ever get from me for your efforts on my behalf Is that I wish you all had one neck and that I had my hands on it I would sure put you out of your misery Just the same as I have done with numbers of other people I have no desire Whatever to reform myself My desire is to reform people who try to reform me

And I believe that the only way to reform people is to kill them. That's my trademark. I'm trademarking My motto is rob them all rape them all And kill them all I am very truly yours copper john two carl pensram I tell you what clark

I'm kind of wet And I don't know why I think it's the choking Yeah, and so carl pansram finally got his wish and was sentenced to death by hanging But in a strange move considering how much effort he put into being hanged pansram attempted suicide two weeks before his execution date What a great last way to say fuck you to everybody. Yeah, like honestly, it would have been all it's like He basically begged and begged and begged and finally like I did it before you could do it Yeah

First he ate a rotten plate of beans that he had hidden in his cell for weeks kind of fun Yeah I think I think I did that in college Yeah Then he used a sharpened button to sever a particularly vulnerable leg artery But he was found had his stomach pumped and was patched up But whatever the reason carl wouldn't try again the night before his execution pansram's Blockmate robert stroud the infamous bird man of alcatraz said is that the night before

Uh his execution uh carl smith the whole night singing a song Oh, and the song was of carl's own composition and in stroud's words its principal theme was Oh, how I love my round I I would never give him back Oh, how I love my round I tried to take him back Tries to take him back Tries to take him back Wow I'm a system of a downflare

And the next day carl was taken to the gallows so eager to die that he was half dragging his escorts behind him And when asked if he had any last words carl said yes, hurry it up. You who's your bastard? I could hang a dozen men while you're fooling around And so on december 5th 1930 the spirit of hatred and vengeance was hanged from the neck until dead And it would be another 40 years before the world would know the full story of carl pansram Well, there it is carl pansram all three parts marcus. How do you feel? Hello, Ikky.