Last Podcast On The Left - Best of: Roswell

Episode Date: July 21, 2018

We're currently at San Diego Comic-Con, cosplaying as the three mean ghosts from the Casper movie. So, this week, we bring you a "best of" episode hot on the heels of our MIB series. Let's revisit Roswell!

There's no place to escape to. This is the last part. On the left. Right from your glass. That's when the cannibalism started. What was that? Oh my god, so today's subject is amazing. We've been waiting a long time to talk about this.

Roswell, New Mexico. Something happened there? You know what I'll say about Roswell? The Roswell incident. And we're going to be correct. There's a lot of source material. Now the extremely short version of the Roswell incident is thus. In 1947, an interplanetary craft of unknown origin

crashed in southeastern New Mexico, 33 miles southeast of the small town of Corona. Yes, and that's why most people UFO purists believe that it should be called the Corona incident rather than the Roswell incident because Roswell was the town where the incident was originally reported. That's also because Roswell had a police station. Roswell was also the county seat. I'm also going to put it this way.

You can't have a gigantic international UFO incident if all you are is a Fudruckers next to a liquor store. Well those Fudrucker managers, they could get to some investigating. The problem with investigating is more like, I bet that night waitress Stacy's hiding tips in her vagina. I better go find it using my finding gloves. Which are just his hands. Roswell, by the way, an oasis in a desert of mess.

I mean if Roswell didn't have the International UFO Museum, if it didn't have this whole alien story, it would be like Hobbes or Clovis. Absolutely. Or Taris. Or Aztec. Or Truth or Consequences. That sounds cool. Yeah, I mean like Southeastern New Mexico is just a meth hellhole.

Yeah, but Roswell, they have a McDonald's shaped like a UFO. You see, so this is why we cannot give these incidents to Corona. Right. Because if we gave them to Corona, all of the people who'd be traveling around the world to come see the UFOs would be stuck in New Mexico with the crippling methamphetamine addiction. Isn't that said, Cactus Jack, one of my favorite pro wrestlers is from Truth or Consequences. It is also the legal name of the mayor of Corona.

Cactus Jack, well you have two names your mayor now. No, UFO activity in the Southeastern New Mexico area actually began the night before the crash on July 1st, 1947. Radar activities in Roswell, Albuquerque, White Sands, and Alamogordo began tracking an object whose speed, acceleration, and maneuvers far outpaced anything seen on Earth up to that point. The next night on Wednesday, July 2nd at 9 p.m., Mr. and Mrs. Dan Wilmot saw an object fly over their house that was shaped

quote, like two inverted saucers faced mouth to mouth to lend more. They were having sex, that's how you make extra saucers. You call the top of a bowl, you call it the mouth of a bowl. Yeah, that's how they make them. The problem with people describing UFOs back in the day is that nobody really knew what to say about it. Now we have the flying saucer thing. You always hear people struggling with the description.

It sounds a lot of times, there's like, it was a pendulum type, oh, jibbity jabbity, hot air balloon. No, a jibbity jabby, that sounds more of a sound. But that's what I mean, but a sound, but like a thing I saw. Oh, I see. Like if you could hear sounds. If jibbity jabby was a visual image. You know how when you see the color red, you think of the number four?

Yes, I do know about that. That's me, that's what I have. Do you smell smoke right now? Oh, no, no, no, that's me just wearing this green shirt. That's what green smells like. Oh, I see. So we know these flying saucers are up there kissing and air having sex. It seems to me like these aliens were maybe messing around.

Maybe it was teenage aliens having a good time on a joy cruise and then they crash four or five days later. Or they were heavily investigating what is our gigantic, our pantheon of underground bases deep within the deserts of New Mexico. You don't think they were investigating the Corona trailer parks? Yeah, I mean, they were definitely looking for it's like we heard there was a water slide here and we find it funny that you are lacking in water, but you use it for amusement instead.

You are doomed. That is very true. On July 3rd at 1pm, police and multiple civilian witnesses see several discs flying in formation over Portland, Oregon. While a whole carload of witnesses reported seeing four of the same type of object not three hours away in Redmond and at the same time, United Airlines Captain E.J. Smith and his co-pilot reported five discs during their flight immediately followed by a second formation of four discs.

So while all of these things are in the sky over the Pacific Northwest, military facilities in Washington and Oregon go on extremely high alert. And while the Pacific Northwest was in an absolute tizzy over those flying objects, sheep herder, Mac Brazel, was tending to his flock with a young boy named D. Proctor. Now D. is somewhat lost to history and with good reason, every attempt at interviewing D. Proctor before he died a morbidly obese alcoholic in Riodosa, New Mexico in 2006 failed.

He had an almost pathological fear of even discussing the Roswell incident and was said to literally run out of a room at even the slightest mention of it. Which was difficult for him because he was 450 pounds. Yeah, they should have kept on mentioning it and then he would have lost some weight. All of a sudden he was in like the 1984 Olympics. Yeah, that would be greater like Mike Tyson's punch out the cutaway scenes where you would bike and the trainer would chase you. Roswell, Roswell, Roswell, no good.

So back in 1947 as the salty old ranch hand and his young boy assistant herded their flock toward the ranch's only water source because remember this is southeastern New Mexico, absolute desert kind of mixed with plains but for the most part pretty barren. The two found they were blocked by a field of debris, three quarters of a mile long and two to three hundred feet wide that his sheep refused to cross. Which is very interesting.

The beginning of the Roswell incident starts with literally laziness, a farmer's laziness. That's not laziness. It actually is strikingly biblical. Well, no, I mean it's always a sheep herder that finds the next level of intelligence. It seems like sheep herders spend a lot of time alone and they're sick of talking to sheep. Well, I agree with that. And so they make up fanciful stories in their head.

Being like, there's one time I saw a Jew who could fly in his holes in his hands I could see through chicks' clothes. What he would do is say, Jesus, he called himself Jesus. I think it was Jesus because he was brown. And he said, if you look through these holes in my hand you can see a girl's boobies. He knew what I did and I did. Well, I don't want to know what you did because I'm complicit. Now, here's what they found among the debris.

Specifically, they found small to palm-sized pieces of smooth, very thin, very light, but extremely strong pieces of aluminum-like metal that could not be cut, scratched, bent, or burned. They also found a number of thin eye beams measuring 18 to 30 inches long by half an inch wide by three-eighths of an inch thick, light as balsa wood. But not balsa wood. Light as balsa wood. Light as balsa wood is very fragile, can be broken very easily. This could not be.

These little eye beams also bore writing in the form of unintelligible symbols that resembled hieroglyphics. What they said it looked like is it looked like hieroglyphics without the animals. Yes. There's no animals in space. That's letters, though. Yeah. There are animals in space, aliens. No, though.

Or alien pets. No, I don't think aliens have pets from what I understand. We are the pets. Yeah. Are we the pets? Yeah. Do you remember ghost cats in the south? Do you remember the alien cats?

Hmm. You remember nothing. No, I remember alien cats. Of course I do. One of my things I was kind of racking my brains about it being like, if these aliens are millennia ahead of us technology-wise, why do they keep crashing? Right. How come we can keep helicopters in the sky?

And helicopters essentially knives with a basket underneath it. Yeah, that's pretty much it, yeah. With gasoline running through it. Right. Right? How do we do that, but aliens keep crashing? And what Chuck Wade's theory is, is that these radar facilities were being used offensively. We found out accidentally that they could be used to take down UFOs.

And what they did was they were taking down UFOs in the New Mexico area using radar. I think they were drunk. That's what I'm going to go with. In America in the late 40s, I mean, there really was an hysteria of UFO sightings. This is the absolute height of UFO sightings. People are reporting it left and right, and we're also, I mean, we're coming right out of World War II. And the U.S. government is actually testing quite a bit of experimental aircraft and experimental

missiles, all shit that we stole from the Nazis. Literally, Operation Paperclip is going strong at this period in time. We've got Werner Braun, the mad German scientist, is going to take us to the moon. You know what I mean? Technically. And he did take us to the moon. It's true, Apollo 11 technically should have had a swatze to go on the side of it. And it probably did until the last 10 minutes and finally they were like, hey, guys, maybe

we should scrape it off. We've got cameras everywhere. Oh, man. And Werner's just like, how did the plane crash without the flow of the drill energy? They're like, no, Werner, Werner, you know it's rocket fuel. We're calling it rocket fuel. So after Joyce seemed to take the case a little more seriously than Sheriff Wilcox thought it should be taken.

The Sheriff, he was the one that called up Roswell AAF, after which the base dispatched the man without whom we would have no Roswell story whatsoever, Major Jesse Marcel. And you can literally see Sheriff Wilcox being like, you really want me to call it in? And him groan, go like, yeah, damn it. And him taking off his hat and then picking up the phone staring. I mean, like, I'm not really calling this in. They're like, you've got to. You've got to, Sheriff Wilcox.

We've got to stop these aliens from making everybody gay. And he's just like, all right. And he's like, like slowly dialing the phone, sighing in between me. So that afternoon, Marcel, along with fellow counterintelligence officer shared in CavCavit, traveled out to Foster Ranch with Mac Brazel. But because of the terrible conditions of the roads, the men arrive too late in the day to inspect the site. The three instead spent the night in Max Shack eating cold beans and crackers.

Which in New Mexico is just what you do when you wait. Yeah, I think everybody's got waiting beans and waiting crackers. Right. We call it visiting. They could have warmed up the beans. No, no, no, no. They had fire, right? There was no lightning that night.

Oh, I see. So you just got to hope that the lightning strikes your beans. And then how do we got warm beans tonight? And the main thing is you got to hope that none of your bushes are wet. And that's not even me being fun and sassy. I mean, the bushes can't be physically wet or the lightning won't catch. Oh, I see. There are many witnesses, especially children, that were involved with this.

Because basically, once the cops went out there and Marcel first went out there and they were digging up that they were moving the all of the debris off the field. There were kids just literally running around playing with shit. And they were like, let them do it. And one, there was a girl that was a farmer, a local farmer came to help remove the debris from the field. And she remembers picking up the metal and watching it melt in her hand. And then she threw it on the ground. She was like, haha, that's fun.

Like kids do when they don't realize that they are a part of something fucking deeply cryptic and secret. And then they were apparently approached, allegedly approached by the CIA afterwards, a man with a baseball bat, started talking to her, pulled her out on her front porch, slapped his bat against his hand and said, you know, a lot of little girls go missing in the desert. That was Babe Ruth. Yeah, it seems like it's, you know what, to steal a term we always often use here, Willie Nilly. They're just kind of going, where is the importance? Uh, Cabot, after he loaded up all of his shit in the trunk of his car, he showed up at his house at 2 AM

and shook his wife and 11 year old son awake and made them come into the kitchen to look at the shit and play with the shit because at the time it wasn't classified. No, right. So he wasn't necessarily doing anything wrong. He was just showing his wife and kid some cool shit that he found out in the desert. Well, he said if this was really alien based, if this was non terrestrial material, this is going to be the only time they'd get to see it because it's about to become classified in a hot second. I mean, God knows if you're giving everybody cancer or not, but he didn't even think about that.

But this guy is father of the year. I gotta say, if you get woken up by your father and he shows you alien materials, very cool dad. I, I mean, I don't know, getting woken up at 2 AM by your dad to tell you about something that he found in the desert that day. It sounds like something your dad would do. Yeah, you would love that, Marcus. I mean, yes, you would. You'd think I would have. I know you would have.

Now, the odd thing about the Roswell story is that in some version, the army is a rabid, hyper vigilant force on top of every aspect of the story. And in others though, they seem to be almost cavalier and just fancy free about the entire situation. They on July 8th, and this is, I don't know, this seems to be one of the oddest parts of the story and something that I cannot figure out why they did this. The army released an official statement, almost casually stating that a flying saucer had been captured outside of Roswell a few days before by a sheep herder and mentioned Jesse Marcel by name as the man who had recovered it. And they said that he was taking it to higher headquarters. He had loaned it to higher headquarters for further study. Why? This is an air force.

This is army. This is before the air force. They still got planes. They're right next to the goddamn air force. And they were like, they know what it is. And they thought it was going to be a weather balloon. The first thing you'd say is a weather balloon. You'd just be like, oh, it's a fucking balloon.

I mean, maybe it's made out of liquid metal. And then we want to talk about that it's fucking colossus shit. Is it possible that they just got the verbiage wrong though? And they're like, maybe we shouldn't have called it a flying saucer. No, flying saucer's very obviously one thing. Maybe they just weren't. Maybe they didn't really like understand the phenomenon that was happening. It was not a goddamn balloon.

No, it definitely wasn't a balloon. But it's so weird that they would actually say flying saucer. I almost think that it was someone like sarcastic. Someone accidentally. Yeah, it's a flying saucer. Why don't you go ahead and put out a press release and tell them that it's a flying saucer. And that gets great. G. Wilkers, Mr. Marcel, I'll get right to the papers and do it.

They're going to be way interested in this story. Aliens are everywhere! No, as far as the bodies go, allegedly, Glenn Dennis, a young mortician on duty at Ballard Funeral Home in Roswell, received a number of calls from the Roswell AAF Mortuary Officer, asking about the availability of small caskets. The second call Dennis got was concerning various chemicals and what effects they would have on the blood and tissue of a deceased body and also what procedures should be done for preparing a body that has been exposed to the elements. And when you hear the details of what the crash scene was actually like according to some people, you'll understand exactly why the base mortuary officer was at a bit of a loss.

Yeah, you literally have five tiny people that are all mashed up in different ways. And the first thing, you get a call from an army officer. It's like, hey, hey, hey, yes, this is Colonel Bubba Duck. I'm not making up a name, but let's say I'm making up a name. Can I get five children's coffins over to this field right now? It seems like if aliens land, do we have to give them a human funeral? No, this is one of those weird New Mexico things that they threw in there being like, well, the government wanted to make sure they got a proper burial.

An open casket? I mean, what's happening? Well, they wanted it. They needed to transport them somehow, and they thought it would be easier to transport them if they're transporting children's coffins. That looks good for the government to just have a bunch of children's coffins lying around. Well, because the problem is that no one really wants to fork one open and see what's inside, because then you have to deal with all the, my son's still alive? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I will say, if you have lost one, a loved one recently in the arena coffin, just check it out.

They might be alive. Oh, I will say this. You never know. When I die, and if I decide to be buried in a coffin, I am now saying this on the radio, so you are legally bound to it. Once every five years, you are to dig open my grave, open up the coffin, and make sure I'm still inside. I feel like you're just going to haunt all of us. Every five years, we're going to get together, and it's going to be like, I know what you did last summer, and it's going to be terrifying. Hey, you know what time it is? Five years coming up.

I'll get the shovels. Yep, he's still dead. He's smiling, but not have decomposed at all. His nails are still growing. Dr. LeJune Foster, a renowned expert of spinal cord surgery and a former undercover FBI agent during World War II, was brought in to study the nervous systems of the mysterious creatures. I don't know what these are, but they're fucked up. That's your professional, yeah.

Yeah, I'm a doctor. I've been a doctor for years. You know, I'm an expert in spinal cord injuries and the nature of the human body, all of these things are fucked to shit, and they give me the creepy weepies, and I'm about to shit my pussy. Okay, they're fucked up. They're fucked to shit. They give you the creepy jeepies, and you're about to shit your pussy. I got to get out of here. You're staying by those comments.

I just want to be done. I absolutely, I'm signing the form. This is the official form. In 1947, I got to go because I have to clean all this goopy fucking bottom throw up out of my old hole here, okay, because this is just, I am beside myself. I say don't even bother coming back. She was understandably shaken by the experience, and was told afterward that if she said anything, her medical license would be revoked, and she would be killed.

She was often remarking for years upon years afterwards, someone in the government is trying to keep me quiet. Doesn't sound like they're doing a good job. They seem to be talking an awful lot. Yeah, and it seemed like, from what the description was, it seemed like it was just something she would mutter to herself. Her pussy's all full of shit. Yeah, well, I do believe that. She's wiping it off.

Her pussy's all full of shit. I'm thinking of an alien 24-7. She could put a fucking muscle on her, like she's some kind of dog. You could still be hygienic and think of an alien. She's got shit up in her pussy. Well, I don't think that has anything to do with the alien invasion that happened during Roswell. Poor stinky LeJune. I wish she could get her shit out of her pussy,

and be ready, and be able to live for free. Flash it out. She could. Get a hose on it. No. Just pay a kid in the neighborhood a quarter. You cannot pay a child to scoop. God damn it. In 1947, you could. Well, you could pay a kid to do a lot of stuff then.

I am now completely switched on this idea. Before I thought Roswell was bullshit, but now I actually think that they found something from an extraterrestrial nature. Well, you're using the ignorance fallacy right now, saying that- What you don't know is what you don't know, but what you know is what you know. But what you don't know sometimes can be bigger than what you know.

You sound like Donald Rumsbell. I can't even deal with it. I'm just saying it's about what you know and what you don't know. No, you don't know. You don't know, but what is it that you don't know? I don't know. Something bigger than what you know. We can't go down this road. Something bigger.

And that is the ignorance fallacy, that what you don't know has to be what you want to know. No, no, no. What you don't know has to be- Some of what you need to know. All right. But I want to need to know basis, but you know what I need to know? Everything.

There's a bunch of stuff I don't know. And there's a bunch of stuff that I do know is also highly debatable. But I do believe that the stuff I don't know is going to be more important than the stuff I know. Right. So what you don't know- Because of how little I know. Sure, it makes all the sense in the world.

Well, the debris was on its way to Dayton, Ohio. Now, whether balloon or not, a small amount of the debris was packed up into four brown paper-wrapped packages and loaded into a B-29 by Major Jesse Marcell, who of course is the number one witness to Roswell. He was ordered to supervise the transfer. Well, you know that Jesse Marcell did not actually himself put those on a plane.

He was a janitor named Barney. Right. I mean, they just wrapped it up like a leg of lamb. I mean, did they tie it with little- Like in the movie Scrooge when he shows up with his dad and the flashback shows up with him being like, that's $100 worth of veal. Right.

Yeah, yeah, that's how it looked. So they have no respect for the debris. They don't think this is even going to be a story. Well, in 1947, that's just how you transported everything. You just wrap it up in a brown pad. They didn't know really what it was. They knew that it was important. But on the other hand, you also don't want to draw

a lot of attention to it. Because all their fathers were butchers. That was the only job that they could have gotten. So much butcher paper. Everybody had the roll in their house. Right? No, Marcell, he comes into General Remy's office. He hands Remy the boxes.

Remy puts the boxes on his desk and said, hey, listen, let's go into this other room. I need you to show me on a map exactly where this crash happened. Marcell goes in and he says, all right, it's right here. It's near Corona, out about 75 miles outside of Roswell. These are the direct coordinates. These are the direct coordinates. They come back to the office and Jesse Marcell finds

that the four boxes were missing and they were replaced by a clean yet mangled radar kit of reflective foil, wooden sticks, masking tape, and bailing twine with a little bit of rubber thrown in. In other words, all the makings of a weather balloon. And the only thing Remy could say afterwards was, gotcha. Bristol Tango.

What if he just went into the other room and it was just Remy showing him one of those pens that you turn upside down where the woman gets naked on the side of it. Look at that. Whoa. Wait, wait. Whoa.

Look at that. And then you turn it. Look at that. Booby. Whoa. That used to be porn. That is porn. That is porn.

Every single bit of hard facts about UFOs is gone. The rest of time gone. The US history has changed. That chick's got boobies in the pen. So that UFO material is going on. Could I get the pen? And the story stayed dead until 1978, 1947, and 1978. This was a non-story after it's a balloon.

That is when Major Marcel was tracked down by our old friend, nuclear physicist and UFO researcher, Stanton Friedman. The most fearless, pear-shaped man in existence. Oh, personal hero of mine as well. Now the Roswell incident was published two years later and the rest is history. Now this is Stanton Friedman's stairway to happen.

Now he has been cobbling together information about Roswell up until this point left and right. This is before MJ12 papers. This is him investigating the idea because you remember the brief history we've done about Stanton Friedman is that he was a nuclear physicist. He had various security clearances and it heard bits and pieces about UFO stuff

and because he was a nerd, he was into sci-fi as a kid. And eventually, like we are sort of doing with our lives, he is turning his childhood predilections into a career. Absolutely, and destroying, I think, a couple of families in the process. Very much so, but when he comes down to the truth, it's bigger than a wife, quote-unquote. Every single one of his books in the forward,

he thanks his family for putting up with him and apologizes profusely. Well, if you've seen any one of his talks in entirety and if you have, I will give you a $20 bill. If you watch any one of those in entirely, can you imagine spending a lifetime with the man? You just gotta learn to love him. Yeah, you gotta learn to love him, yeah.

And I actually, when I got these Roswell books at the International UFO Museum and Research Center, I of course bought a signed Stanton Friedman book and I asked the woman at the gift counter, I was like, how do you know him? How is he? She's like, you know what, a lot of people think he's stodgy, but I think he's just the nicest fellow in the world. Isn't that something?

Wow, you fucked Stanton Friedman. Why did you make the mental leap that she had sex with him? I could see it in her eyes. She just said that he wasn't terrible. You could know when someone's had sex with Stanton Friedman if their eyes can go wall-eyed independently. You know, like, eee-ee-ee. She did have a veiled insult in her compliment.

Both, though. I mean, it was a quote, yeah. Some people say he's stodgy, because apparently I guess in Roswell's Stanton has a... A bit of a reputation. A bit of a reputation. I'm sure he does. The key's a known quantity.

Hard-nosed journalist. He's also the owner of up to 150 yards of suspenders. Yes, and a hell of a YouTube channel. But the other thing about Jesse's story, yes, it is creative. His story tended to change quite a bit. And because of this, UFO reach searchers are able to cherry-pick

bits and pieces of Jesse's story to fit whatever narrative they need. Right. Whenever their claims are debunked. They're allowed to change the story, and they feel perfectly comfortable doing so. For example, when Marcel originally told Stanton Friedman about flying the debris to Fort Worth,

he claimed that he was the pilot, that he flew the material himself. But when debunkers looked into his military history, they found that he had never actually even been a pilot, despite him also claiming that he shot down five enemy aircraft during World War II. And what's funny is I did it with just my finger guns. Oh, amazing.

I was standing on the wing of the plane, and you wouldn't believe it. Everyone said, Jesse, you're crazy. And I said, I'm crazy like a goddamn maroon. Well, that would make you crazy. A maroon is a type of weasel. I went out onto the wing of the plane, and I was just pointing my fingers,

just because I knew I could. Right. And I took down all of the Luftwaffe with just my index fingers. Isn't that a passenger airliner? Yes. I had commandeered a passenger airliner. I was going to Toledo to see my sister get married.

I got to say, we were all even surprised she was getting married because she was 475 pounds. Go back. But you hijacked the plane. Oh, I hijacked the plane, but I could, because I told them I was a pilot. Where were you on 9-11, 2001? Oh, I was in the grave.

Yeah, he did it. He died in the late 70s. And Marcel, as far as other things that he lied about, he bragged the freedom that he had a bachelor's degree in physics, that he studied at two different universities. But investigators found that he never attended one of the universities and didn't finish his degree at the other.

In fact, his military records state that when he was inducted into the army, he listed his education as none. Or high school. Street smarts. You're going to lie about it. Give yourself a master's. He just went with the bachelor's degree.

Yeah, he went with the bachelor's of physics. I don't want to go too crazy. Well, yeah, because if the master's at some point, something you're like, oh, well, you know how to handle this. You have a master's in physics. And then he would have to be like, let me show you my pen. I got this pen one. Yeah.

And when faced with these outright lies, these aren't even exaggerations. These are outright lies. Researchers rationalize this by saying that military records are, quote unquote, notoriously inaccurate. That may well be. But it's a huge contradiction to, on one hand, say military records are notoriously inaccurate

when it doesn't suit you while using those same types of records involving transfers and trips and telegrams as proof that something was going on. It's like Alex Jones saying that the mass media is lying to us about Sandy Hook and Aurora and Boston. It is complicit in the globalist takeover. And then turning around and using a new story from CNN or NBC as proof that the globalist takeover is happening.

Your source material is from the globalist fucking source. But that cognitive dissonance, but it doesn't add up in their mind. But he is right that aluminum is making kids gay. That is possible. It's a bit of a confirmation bias as well there, right? Yeah. I mean, they're looking for what, they're finding what they want. They're looking for proof and they're finding it in the same places

that they're finding lies. But isn't that the nature of reality in general, dog meat? Yeah, it is. That you seek out what you find and what you find then shapes your reality and then when your reality then becomes your own singular reality and then it becomes reality itself. Truth is. Boom.

Truth is boom. Truth is. Truth is boom. Boom. And out of all the witnesses, only seven of them claim to have actually seen the debris. And a couple of those seven, by the way, were children at the time. But what they do remember is afterwards.

That's what's interesting though is that the memories all line up. That stuff with the debris, the memories line up and the fact that these kids were literally threatened with death by government spooks is a thing that is very, it's interesting. I mean, but it's also, but you could also see that like there's things that went up from when I was a kid that I don't really know whether they're dreams or whether they're reality. You were molested.

No, he was not molested. It was a goblin outside of his. Was the pig goblin real? Was the pig goblin not real? It wasn't your uncle. It wasn't my uncle. It was real to you. Yeah.

So then it becomes real to everyone. Yes, it is reality. The pig goblin of Lubbock, Texas exists. In no way. Let's make it clear. Was Marcus Parks molested? Never once. Not one time.

Close. A couple of times. Well, now we're okay. Sounds like you were flirting with him. Yikes. Corso claims that in 1961, he was given the official files on the material that we recovered from Roswell and was instructed to filter the technology from the military into the mainstream via industrial development.

You folded in like chocolate into a delicate mousse. Yeah. Now you're talking. Exactly. Through reverse engineering, people like Corso were able to develop such modern technology as lasers, integrated circuitry, fiber optic networks, accelerated particle beam devices, and even the Kevlar used in bulletproof vests. Tickle me, Elmo.

Betamax. Spiny hats. The little kids wear. The weed is with the cats with the little kids like kids wear. Yes, they see them in the 90s, pictures of the 1920s. It's time travelers from the future from the 40s going back into the 20s and putting them on kids heads interesting and also condoms The you've never seen a skinny kid with a spinny hat because they'll just go right up. Yeah, you got to be fat stay low pinion Well apparently

Stalin's plan was to take a bunch of Of mentally challenged children like kids that were too smart and so they needed it They needed to be challenged like it was like school was easy for them. That's right. Yes. No, this is this is advanced classes for the rush You would take these mentally challenged children hideously deformed them using mangula style tactics Load them into an experimental aircraft Fly said aircraft over the border from Mexico crash land them near a population and when the Deformed returning children crawled out of the wreckage. They would spark a war of the world style panic. It's a balloon

That's a problem. They kept saying that when they came out of it Unbelievable it's a great idea To me, it's the thing that makes the most sense. It has slowly eroded our education system We're doing terrible, you know against the Chinese and things like that So I think they might have won her theory is not that it's mangula style tactics her theory is that it was mangula himself Oh, and the Russians that that wasn't in the last chapter. No, the Russians had hired him in between After World War two he went into hiding Yeah, Stalin kept him alive. Basically. They caught him kept him in life just to make this

Experiment and this is a part of what they hurt her anonymous contact and the entire book all of the other contexts that talked to her About area 51 they they state their names they go on the record or they talk about the top secret programs that are happening in area 51 this man said that spoke anonymously and he said that yes that Stalin and mangula Designed them literally drew them on paper right they created the modern gray together Yeah Because Stalin used to do this thing because mangula used to do this thing back in the day where he would split open Jewish People's heads and put extra skull in them just to see what they'd look like yeah strange It turns out now supposedly the Nazis were masters of UFO technology UFO like technology, right?

Right. Can we say a pedantic piece of shit? Yeah, and as far as the Nazis in UFOs go and as far as the Nazis in advanced technology goes See I agent Jean Poteet Said with a fair amount of confidence Hitler invented still Is that your interpretation of a fair amount of confidence from G is that what Jean Poteet sounds Hitler invented still there we go That's a fair amount of that's a fair amount and Hitler used that technology to build his stealth bomber the Horton ho 229 God it sounds like a special like huge prostitute. Yeah Just like five pounds of mashed potatoes

This is where I just I want to say again The the layers of diff's information and the stories that have been built into Roswell are all completely insane I wonder why some of them exist Why did this officer quote-unquote anonymously tell Annie Jacobson that this is what's happening at area 51 That this is what happened. They're like why did that story come out of nowhere? Why did why did it like I maybe that is why they wanted it so to keep it so secret, but it's just so Nuts it's even more nuts than aliens of the Russian one is nuts the Nazi one kind of makes sense But the Nazi one is also

The Nazi one is the most reasonable theory we put forth so far, but is the UFO technology even real? We don't see planes hovering now. It's 2016 Maybe it just didn't work very well But it just seems like if they were zips out but all over the place in fucking discs that had the zero point energy Whatever the fuck it's called. We'd have it that'd be places. Maybe it was unsustainable. Maybe maybe The airplane industry in conjunction with the automobiles It's very possible that you know that

Yeah, a free clean energy source Would be hidden from us or it could be the exact opposite that it is cost prohibitive that it takes You know a ton of plutonium to make zero point energy or it could be that the power sources were From an unknown source It's people if it was people we would have zero problem to a week would get rid of the homeless problem in a second Oh, yeah, just grind them up into UFO fuel Yeah, or could be we talk about it. I'm not news tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, do it I end up homeless people because they can be used for UFO technology. No, it's a fuel UFO technology

That will please your base do it. Yeah, I'm doing Ben. I guarantee I do it I guarantee it Then of course if it's not the Nazis and it's not the Russians, of course, there's the possibility that it is God now, this is one of the invisibles. You're excited about this Well, I'm very excited about this and I think Grant Morrison's the invisibles while it is Fiction honestly just as credible as any other thing any other source that we use for alien episodes this theory this Grant Morrison's theory It says that what was captured in New Mexico in 1947 was for all intents and purposes

God here is an abridged version from what I remember the aforementioned Trinity atomic test in the New Mexico desert Open a hole in quote-unquote reality and when Robert Oppenheimer uttered the words I am become death destroyer of worlds He invoked the idiot God of nuclear war which caused the creator of their universe in the form of magic mirror To goop out into the New Mexico desert where it was promptly scooped up and kept captive in you guessed it Don't say Underground base, so it's either doidoy Russians or God. Yes, and maybe there's no difference between the two Of course if it's not Russians if it's not

Nazis if it's not God, who else could it be? Oh? It's always you know what don't blame the fucking devil don't blame the devil don't blame the devil the devil's fine with you Cool barely exists, and you're you're nothing you are nothing. Why are you yelling at people? I'm already mad it would be so much cooler if it was the devil Yeah, would it be way more metal and of course he crashes the plane is getting blown by a buck like a eight-headed lizard demon Yeah, fuck yeah Wasn't the devil inside the plane? Oh, I see the devil controlling the aircraft now This information comes from the highly reputable echoes of Enoch comm yeah, and it's a site that specializes in biblical research of the

Paranormal yeah, and the man who runs the site Jim will helms actually moved himself and his wife Oh to Roswell from Detroit in 2003 following quote a calling from the Lord to stand in the gap from one of the biggest lies to come against the faith in a Personal God since before the flood he also Detroit is not doing well no good city to get now It's the wife. They're voluntarily or is she a hostage right good question Nonetheless will helms has managed to find a passage in the Bible that he believes with all his heart is Directly related to the Roswell incident again This is an abridged version, but it is from Zechariah chapter 5 verses 1 through 11

Then I turned and raised my eyes and saw there was a flying scroll and he said to me What do you see so I answered I see a flying scroll Then the angel who talked with me came out and said to me lift your eyes now and see what this is that goes forward So I asked what is it and he said it is the basket that is going forward and he also said this is their resemblance throughout the earth Here is a lead disc lifted up and this is a woman sitting inside the basket Then he said this is Wickedness and he thrust her down into the basket It's wickedness and through the lead cover over its mouth

Then I raised my eyes and look there were two women coming with the wind and their wings It's wickedness for they had wings like the wings of a stork and they lifted up the basket between earth and heaven So I said to the angel who talked with me where they carry the basket and he said to me You build a house for it in the land of Sheenar when it is ready the basket will be set there on its base I mean, it just sounds like they used to write down night terrors and then it became the Bible No, what is it? What does all this mean though? How is anybody religious there's a woman in a basket there was a woman there's a woman in a basket

Somebody dropped a newspaper in front of a fan. It's the blue. It's the blue. She's got stork wings Oh, I see yeah, and as the final word of proof Well Helm presented a single line from the Gospel of Luke chapter 10 verse 17 I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven It's double bass Svar I gotta say bro. I love your solo and in the bottomless pit of mob I gotta say you can we cool it on some of the double bass like but I just got this double bass man Um, Roswell. Oh my goodness. I um, I'm something happen. Yeah, what it was, right? You tell me you tell me

That's what people have been asking me for the last, you know, three weeks a month like so Like so it's in the next episode like fucking Roswell, man. Look, huh, so what do you think happened? Shut up like And you try you try it's literally convinced consuming my life Yeah, the last two weeks all I've been doing is reading watching Roswell. Yeah, I think it's a balloon You think it's I think it's a balloon You know my thing is I don't think that it's balloon, but I think that it's like it's well It's a balloon to somebody. It's you know, I mean, what is a balloon exactly? I don't think it's a balloon. It's not if it's not a balloon to us. It's a balloon to them

Yeah, I mean aliens just probably like I wish we hadn't lost that taco truck on Ryan Roswell last week You know, I mean like that's all they could they don't know what it is. Yeah, right, right But I also believe there's something to there's a book I'm reading right now if you want to know everything there is to know about modern UFOs In one book, it's this book and it's very interesting It's if you are a person like me whose whole life has been marred and destroyed by your UFO knowledge It's a lot of stuff that you already know, but it's it's very Useful and it puts it all in place

But the one thing he kind of talks about is the nature of UFOs It's very interesting and the idea of them being either natural or or handmade and whether or not that is mechanical or animal and what we're looking at for For UFOs a lot of the times that if they are interdimensional crafts if they are something from another realm entirely They can be something that we can never understand like literally something like a natural machine Like a machine that is alive that it's a UFO thing that literally the UFOs themselves are alive and they can come through And there are said another type of entity all together. So yeah, maybe he crashed I mean, we had a fucking heart attack. Maybe he was alive and it's fucking brain aneurysm

And it died in the middle of a goddamn desert because there were a lot of old people fucking died We've reached the max Henry Henry we're losing you Henry come back. Henry put the book down just for a second Okay, psychedelic nature to aliens. Yes, it's difficult to put your finger I think for right now. We have reached our limit. I think we alien conversation Henry We have to keep you alive. Oh, I'm bringing this book on the plane. I'm about to go. No, but don't start yelling