Last Podcast On The Left - Bring Her Back: An Interview with Danny & Michael Philippou

Episode Date: May 29, 2025

Henry & Eddie sit down with special guests - writers and directors of a24's "Talk To Me" and the brand new film "Bring Her Back" - Danny & Michael Philippou aka Rackaracka join the show to discuss the twisted new follow-up to their 2022 horror breakout, we find out if and how the two films are connected, and take a peek into the possible future of the Talk to Me Universe.BRING HER BACK. IN THEATERS NOW! #bringherback #a24 For Live Shows, Merch, and More Visit: www.LastPodcastOnTheLeft.comKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Last Podcast on the Left ad-free and a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.

Guys, I'm so happy you're here. Are we rolling? Testing unos, dos, tres. Hello, hello, hello, hello. Sometimes we get suddenly loud. That's what we do. It's our jobs. Oh, very much so. So first of all, if you had anything negative to say about our president, Donald Trump. I'm sorry, I just wanted to check.

I just wanted to check at the very top, just in case you have any issues traveling back and forth. Oh my god. No, we've got a visa. We have a visa actually. We're Visans. Oh, very nice. Well, I have an American Express. Oh, and you can get into certain clubs.

What's that all about? There's lounges that you can't get into. Yeah, the airports. It's called capitalism. Oh, I was trying to get in. Do you have the card? And I was like, I do. What and I do what I've got business class flight like you can't get in They want to make sure you know, there's a place you can't get into Australia if you just have a good enough ticket to let you in here. They tell you to go screw

There's like different clubs. I can't get in for $65. No, you can't get in for $65. You want to step outside Do you want to get knocked out right here This is the kind of juice we need Welcome to last podcast and love we have a very special episode here We have two of one of my newest truly favorite movie creators What you guys are doing is fucking out of this world the new movie bring her back is coming out. It's now it's out now, right? Bring her back the directors of talk to me as well Danny Philippo and Michael Philippo welcome Live-studio audience here. We have two people in the back here. Three. We, oh yeah, Rob is our producer. We got the gals.

The gals. Making sure that you don't say anything too horrible. Our goal is to make you say horrible things. Yes. We're in a constant battle. So before we get started, I just want to say, I love horror movies. Horror movies are probably my favorite genre of movies.

I have been terrified to watch Talk To Me, and I haven't watched it. I specifically did not watch this movie because I'm like, this scares the shit out of me. I want nothing to do with this. I watched it last night with my wife, and fuck you. Like, my wife had to sit there and see that. Like, what is wrong with you?

What are you doing here? I'm sorry to your wife. What are you doing here? I don't know what's wrong with me. You're, yeah, I don't know. You know, you just, you've got to get the doctors out somehow, you know? And then this morning, I woke up, 7 a.m., bright and early, to see Bring Her Back. Perfect breakfast film. I've been trying to sell people, honestly, see the matinee.

Yeah, yeah. Like, get in at 3 o'clock in the goddamn afternoon and just experience it sober I had to watch this movie. I had to pause it halfway through. I'm losing my fucking mind. All right, I'm going nuts I can't deal with this goddamn fucking movie. It's too early in the morning. All right, I got a beautiful dog I'm like, I love you. Please kiss me. All right, and so I'm like, all right, I pause He's a mouth kisser to the dog. Oh, yeah He gives me a like, I love you. Please kiss me. All right, and then so I'm like, all right I pause he's a mouth kisser to the dog. I go big. Oh, yeah So I go and I go make my breakfast and I start like cutting my strawberries and I got scared of the knife in my hand Yes, because of the movie that you yes

I was like I was scared of myself Because of the movie that you made! Yes! I was like, I was scared of myself! Because of what you guys did. I thought it would have been breakfast. I'm actually just jealous. Why haven't you brought your dog in? I miss my dog and I haven't patted a dog in quite a while.

So you gotta bring your dog next time. What's your dog's name? My dog, I got a new dog named Harley. I'm gonna kill it. She had a 25. Yeah, yeah. Fuck it. Fuck it.

She's 13, you don't have to wait long. We actually already got the funeral planned. Yeah. Can I ask, can I ask, how do you guys, because you guys made like stunt vids, right? Like you guys were doing, how does it get like, was it just a natural progression of filmmaking from there? Well, it was always, that was always the YouTube stuff was just practicing, but to become filmmakers, that was always the goal, always the aim.

And you know, speaking of stunts, Michael couldn't be listed as one of the directors at the start of insurance for Bring Her Back, because he was in Detroit having death matches. What does that mean? It's like an extreme form of professional wrestling where they use like light tubes and barbed wire and real weapons and they cut each other up for real. It's like an extreme performance art blood sport. I wrote a documentary on it and I was like, I want to be in it. You look okay.

Yeah, I've got a documentary on it You look okay, you know Australian naturally immune to certain types of damage. Yeah Luckily we brought a barbed wire back Listen before we plug any more of these films. I need you to eat a light bulb You gotta see it It's visceral. It's bloody. It's good. It's nice.

What was the like, so just like you do that just for the thrill of it or is it one of those that you just love physical action? Uh, both. Uh, I think we've been obsessed with death match wrestling since little kids. Yeah. We used to do it with our friends, unfortunately, but we had parents that would literally not let their kids hang out with us. No way!

Yeah because we were so delinquents, we were actual delinquents. You just threatened to kill my dog. I was jealous! It was out of envy. No dude, it was out of envy. You guys had fun charges though. I looked at your Wikipedia pages, your charges are fun. Yeah, yeah, we've had a few fun charges.

Yeah, yeah, they're not... Nothing bad. Like really, like nothing. Just the stuff that honestly just excited me about you. Yeah, underwater cars we got Michael got arrested for, so did I. Which wasn't even my idea. That was a video... You should've... Danny had an underwater car made and he didn't want to drive it.

What? Because I was filming and Michael was terrible at recording. That sounds like an excuse for everything. Michael was so bad at recording. Michael was so bad at recording. He would like... We would like do a scene and I'd try to be in the videos. I'd try to be in something and his footage is like out of focus, he's like, punched it in a weird way. It's like, dude, just point it at me and film it. Yes, but you were correct to be scared to get in an underwater car.

Well, no, I got in the underwater car. I was filming in there. Okay. Yes, I was in there. No, you weren't. You weren't in there. I don't know why there's lies being thrown around. And then the cops came and found you while you were in the middle of shooting, right? Is that the idea? No, no, it was, so the video came out

and then suddenly like a year later, I would, Danny got arrested. It wasn't a year later, it was like a couple of months. Anything but, getting arrested over making art is one of my favorite things in the face of the planet. It was so good, but I actually got arrested for pretending to be Michael. Yeah, yeah, sure.

But then they arrested him. And then Michael got arrested for the art. Yeah. They said I was like a wanted felon, like I had fled the country. I was like, I haven't been hiding or anything and then... I put the evidence on YouTube. Yeah, it's on the video. Come on. But it's like a year-long lawsuit. What was the charge?

Driving recklessly, driving dangerously, driving without a license, driving without a seatbelt, driving a car that's not fit for the road. Are you not American? Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah, that's what I said! No, but what happened was...

How about littering? We were not... No, no, not littering. Not littering! I am. No, that would have been a bad one. They're pretty easy on littering, actually, in a friendly way. No, but it was a big thing in the end that I got off Scott Free, because I wasn't actually driving dangerously or recklessly. No, we actually... it was a stunt before. It was a practice car. It was a big thing in the end that I got off Scott free cuz I didn't know I wasn't actually driving dangerously

Eraclously, no, we actually it was a stunt before it was a practice car It was a stunt. It was the police said that they were gonna have to recreate the underwater car to prove it was dangerous Why don't we go for a race boys Okay, let's get to movies. Let's get to some movies. I love books That's my favorite kind of movie one that I'm directing inside of my own brain I can cast it with all of my favorite porn stars That's my favorite I but when I Watch your movies first thing I noticed which is that one of my favorite attributes is that they feel extremely

The first thing I noticed which is that one of my favorite attributes is that they feel extremely Lived in like they feel like like talk to me feels like you're watching a story that's already Happened before and now it's happening again Which also why talk to me the sequel will also be perfect at some point whenever that comes out you better do it Yeah, yeah, Danny. I don't at me. Yep. Yep And then bring her back is kind of also the same where you're dropped into a world It's already going like can you add the first thing? I want to know is when you make that like with the hand and talk to me and with the story in bring her back Do you know that entire story?

Before you write the film because it seems like you know what's going on, but you leave sections out. Yeah, that's my, I love it so much. I love world building. I love building out the Bible and the backstory and the lore and going into every possible detail. I love ironing that out. And then I also love dropping people into the middle of it.

And it's told from the perspective of the characters and the point of view of the people that we're following. And like the kids being out of the depth of the hand and talk to me. I love that. That they're not sitting there researching and figuring out all the answers. But there's obviously a history there. There's something happening. And the same story with this. There is something that we've built out and we're designing right now that is like the hand of talk to me to the bring her back universe.

And I do want to, I just. Have you seen the bong? The pea, the bowl, the weed bowl that was made out of the hand? Oh yes, I love that thing. Yeah, yeah, that's great. That's good stuff, yeah. And it's like, it's a candle holder, mate. Yeah, we're just gonna have bongs.

It's a tobacco pipe. That's what we say. It's an incense holder, buddy. No, but it's the same as when you're writing a character. You've got to know the entire backstory of the character. You need to know all the moments that led up to this moment. Why they're like this, their personality. What are the key moments in their life that made them this way?

And it's the same with the backstory of anything on that other side of it. The tapes. Where did Laura get these tapes? The backstory. Who were these people? Who created them? Why? What is the mythos, the entire mythos, you gotta know that stuff, that's important to know. So even though you never, same with the characters, there's a lot of things you'll never see on screen, it's still important to have that so it feels real. I love that thing, like with The Shining and like that ending, like if you read the script, you'd know that Jack Torrance is, he's like a resurrected person from someone used to live here But it's completely cut out of the movie Yeah

And then there's the book that has all this backstory and you're getting glimpses of this bigger world and I love that There's this art there's a bigger stage that these films are playing in like I love that like a malazan Do you know those books? Yes. Yes, you know, like there's this entire world and you're like you're reading it and you're a bit out of Your depth you're like wait, what's this? Who's this? That's my favorite. That's my favorite I do like why I like all the stuff words you're dropped in the of your depth, and you're like, wait, what's this? Who's this? That's my favorite. That's my favorite. It's like, dude, it's like why I like all the stuff where you're dropped in the center now. Your job as the viewer. Yeah, you can figure it out.

Is to stay engaged. It's so good. I would say it's very arrogant of you to compare yourself to The Shining. I did not compare myself. It reminds me of The Shining. Sort of like Stephen King. The two of you together are close to a half a Kubrick.

Right? That's what I'd say. Maybe a quarter, maybe a quarter. But yeah, I love that. Because my biggest pet peeve with horror movies is when they over explain shit. And you guys really leave it up to us to figure out. And it's scarier that way, because my imagination runs wild.

Yeah. I'm sure you know the answers, but I honestly don't want to know the fucking answer. Yeah. It's sort of like the theorizing, when you come across like a piece of lost media or you look at those old school footage and you're like, you don't have the context and you're like, what the fuck is this thing? This is terrifying.

This weird clip or this execution video, fake, but whatever it is, and it's like, where are they? What language are they speaking right now? Like what is happening? Like that stuff just makes for really horrific art I think that you guys are also bringing up which is the hour, you know Probably closer to a younger generation, but also with my generation of the discovery Like our parents had finding weird shit in the woods. Yeah, we had finding weird shit on the internet

Yeah, and we saw a thing but industry but like we saw mysterious things on the internet and we, that was what inspired us. And I think what Talk To Me and Bring Her Back are doing is understanding there's the same amount of mystery in the modern world as there was in the old world. And I feel like that's what you're bringing back. In fact, I feel like there's more mystery in the modern. Yeah, it's easy, because it's more,

in a way it's more accessible, the mystery. It's more accessible now. You'd think it would be, but it's still things you can't scratch. It's still like, what did I just see? Is that real? Is that fake? That's even scarier because that is,

you can't differentiate that line now, and you're lost between those things, and you're like, people can fake this stuff, but also it's real enough that that real stuff also does happen. So it's terrifying It's terrifying Yeah And also you have Sally Hawkins in bring her back who's legitimately like a patriot missile actor like that is somebody What a fuck that's like driving a fucking Bentley

I know as a director and we thought there's no fucking way that she would respond and she would say yes, they're like that I still don't think she'll do it. Yeah Because we she was the first person that we reached out to and we're thinking there's no fucking way she's gonna say yes She's like the new Amanda Plummer. Yeah, that's her. That's her. We said that you're like the new Amanda Plummer Fuck you both, you know who the new Amanda Plummer. And then she turned down the film. Yeah, she's like, fuck you both. Do you know who I am? I make wet films. She really does make quite a bit of wet movies. She does, well she loves Shape of Water, she loves this.

It was the only reason she was drawn to it. No, she wasn't drawn to it. Yeah, oh there's water in it? Count me in. Can I be moist in the scene? She was like, she didn't connect to it on like a genre level, because she always reads it from a character's point of view. And she connected with Laura as a character, and she was just like going so in depth with

Laura and like picking up on the smallest nuances of the script. And she was, it's the best collaboration. She dropped the little pieces of lore in the middle of her extreme acting that you can like but you're like I'm watching it too being like oh she just she's threading the needle of all the info yeah yeah yeah and especially with that with there's like a scene with Wendy and she's like okay I can't stop her physically I have to convince her like please listen to me listen we have a bit yeah we have a history together we know each like please listen to me listen. We have a bit. Yeah, we have a history together

We know each other. Please listen listen listen and like she's so desperate like please. I like I let me explain this to you I know it seems impossible. It seems psychotic, but I'm telling you like a miracle is happening here Yeah, and she's but she's nice in person. She's beautiful. Of course. She is terrifying when she's actually in character I fucking bet dude are they can I ask this? Okay again? I'm trying to bring any real Distinct spoilers. Yes Can well look I'm the director so Rob brought this up. I brought my wife and I both kind of ping this to our talk to me and bring her back in the same world maybe this to, or talk to me and bring her back in the same world. Maybe.

Oooh. Jeez, who said that? I don't know who said that. Mysterious. The podcaster's haunted. They seem to be like they're kind of, because they both revolve around, we're both like, it's like a mysterious object. I mean it has an amazing, it has some storied past between the hand and the tape.

Well there's this thing where it's like you're writing stuff and you're always like putting things together. And like there was like, like parts in the script writing when characters in Bring It Back were in Talk to Me. Characters that were in Talk to Me were in Bring It Back because they were written at the same time. Yeah. And like you find that, you find your footing

and you find the structure and you find the bones. Like the more you go over a script, the more you iron over it, you're like, okay, this is that. Like this makes sense. Like sometimes when you, the bones like the more you go over a script the more you iron over it you're like Okay, this is that like this makes sense like sometimes when you it's like scribbles It's just like rough drawings everywhere when you're first starting off with something and then eventually it like it You know you color it in and the full picture is there every movie is gonna be set in the same neighborhood. Yeah Look over Laura's kidnapping Oliver. Just a minute of a car crash. Their hand's gonna have a hitchhiking thumb.

We've got to get out of this god damn neighborhood. This block's horrible. See, you guys don't mind the Australian accent? No, I love it. You know what I love? Yeah, I love it. Does it feel unsympathetic at all to people? What are you talking about?

No. Do you really think that? No, no, no. People in Australia think that. I do as well. If you guys say What's that over there? In an American accent, it sounds scary. But in Australian, oh, what's that over there, mate? Yeah, well, that scares me more because you fuckers are scared of shit.

Oh yeah, I'm afraid that it must be scary. Yeah, it's true. You know, it's so funny, cause like you even say that, like no, honestly, I think one of the most incredible things you've done with also both is make believable friend groups

and believable families and looks like they all like hang out and they all like belong together. I felt like I knew them. I didn't even notice the accent to be honest with you. Yeah, that's amazing. And like in Australia, like in some of the stuff that we'd worked on, just as crew members, they're like, you have to, like, Australians are not going to stand that, like, really, really pronounce it. So if you're like, oh, what's that over there? They're like, oh, no, that's mumbly. Oh, what's that over there? And like, it becomes Ocra Australian or Tour Australian,

where it feels really false. And then Australians have this cultural cringe about it where they're like, oh that feels weird and then Americans are like, that sounds weird and then it's just there was something about it like especially when we went into making Talk To Me like the producers are the people that we originally gave the script to were like can we film it somewhere else? What about with American accents? That could be more accessible. What about in America? You do it in America. That's very interesting. I actually love the hometown authenticity. I like that. I love it as well. And I love that there's certain words or phrases that are from Australia

that audience members would be like, what's that mean? I think that's universal. But you know they mean it. The actors know what they're saying. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I think it's something that's... Because we had one chance, it was like, talk to me was it, it was that only movie we were probably gonna make,

because it probably wouldn't work or whatever. So to us, it felt right to do it authentically, and Australian is authentic, that's where we knew that's the people we know and how we grew up. So it felt right doing that. So the fact that it resonated, you know, kind of internationally, and I think it does because it doesn't matter who the people are, where they're from.

It's a human to human story. Yeah, exactly. So we all know those people. It doesn't matter. Yeah, where you're from. Yeah. Well, so the kids are using, especially talk to me, they're using it to like, like it's drugs.

Yes. That's what's awesome. It's a fun game. Yes, I would do the hand if the hand was available to me. I'd be fucking on that thing. You would, wouldn't you? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I'd fucking do the hand. No! I'm not doing the hand! Get on the damn hand! If anything, I'll fight the people with the hand! No, you have to follow the rules. Yeah. As long as you follow the rules, you can use the hand. No, you can't!

Yes, you can. The rules are bullshit! Boys, relax. This is a whole gig. Don't make us relax. I'll fall immediately asleep. Oh man, but seriously though, man, talk to me. I'm watching this fucking movie and I'm looking at all these kids and they're going crazy and I'm just like, stop touching the fucking hand. Just stop it with the hand. guys are going too crazy and it's just like it's I felt the same way when I was at a party and like someone kid had stolen like a Nitrous tank from a hospital. Yeah, everyone was doing the balloons Yeah, when I saw like two kids almost died

I felt like I was back in that room when I was watching that movie That was like one of the inspiration points was like out like these neighbors that we watched grow up He was like having a bad reaction to this drug that he was taking. He was on the floor convulsing and everyone he was with was just filming him and laughing at him. And then I saw that footage and I was like, God damn, that's fucking barbaric. Yeah, man. I was the one filming it. That's why you're a director.

You're able to distance from the emotional attack. Even like when you're writing those characters and same as with Talk To Me and Bring Her Back, draw from real experiences, draw from things that make you uncomfortable. For example, there's these things, Greek Orthodox funerals in Australia, they probably do this everywhere. You know when they've got an open casket? Oh yeah. And then in Greek Funerals you have to kiss the head of the corpse.

Yeah. See, that's something I did not know about. That's a real thing. You kiss their heads and you don't have to do it. There's something that you have to do. If people freak out about it and you can see it's really bothering them to see even a body or a casket, they don't have to go up to it. But Laura is trained in this.

She's a child therapist. She's a psychologist. She knows this is bothering him. And she's like, I'm going to pull him up there. Because she's trying to break his ass. She's trying to break his ass. Make him unreliable. Get him out of the house.

Yeah. And yeah, I don't want to spoil anything. No, that's the problem. It's so hard to not do because I want to. Yeah, yeah. And that's what's so terrifying. And it's like, it's tapping into that. That was freaky to me as a kid

I remember when my grandfather died There was like this woman that didn't really like that much and she was like not even really part of the family And she like came up and put her arm around me and like I was like I'm trying to grieve here And then she was like Paul and me she's like you're okay. He's okay everyone It was this weird thing where I was like oh gosh like it felt really she told you to kiss your grandfather No, that didn't happen Lower lower kiss him lower Everyone it was this weird thing where I was like, oh gosh, like I felt really she told you to kiss your grandfather No Lower kiss him lower cold marble. Yes. I Kissed a dead head once and it is upsetting. I wish I did

Is that he's played with have mostly been extremely warm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he's got him fresh. I feel like you two guys have probably killed someone. No! Hey, hey, hey, hey! Not in this country! You said, hey, you can do something.

Hey, cut that out, cut that out. No! Can I see your acting face of strangling someone? Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on! Alright, come on! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo We're gonna wrap this up! That's been fun, huh? We know how to talk to big directors. Yeah, that's what we are. We're big directors. You're actually quite physically small. Yes. Were you surprised? A lot of people say that. They see us as a person, they go

I think we sound quite small. Yeah, but you're wiry fuckers. I ain't trying to fight you. You know? Did you ever get in fight as brothers? Like, did you fight dudes as brothers? Oh, like together? Yeah, we did. We used to fight people in the neighborhood.

Yeah. We were pretty cool. It's just having, it's called having a go, right? Yeah, you know, give it a crack. And that was just how kids walked in back then. Like you just fight each other. Yeah, a lot of the kids that we fought with became friends with. Yeah, of course.

You gotta fight them and then you're friends with them. I was surrounded mostly by girls. Did you fight them? No your friends with them. I was surrounded mostly by girls No, we played little games My sister used to fight us and she would you yeah, she has to have the last hit. Oh, yeah She was chase you with a fucking frying pan until she cracks you over the head. She will not stop There's no no stopping her. She will not stop. There's no stopping her Do you like the movies? Does she does she come in? She loves them. She's in the end in the end of that Hey, hey, hey don't

At the end of the film there's someone that gets out of a car that is my sister Cosmos in the backseat too, and then she starts getting out we cut it I can't wait to be in the movie. I was like yeah, it was the same. It was the same in talk to she was in it The scene got cut for so bad No, it's not a lot of but yeah, I perform better or we're not gonna use it honestly It's about being in the right scene. Yes, correct. Or in the right position. Oh yes, I remember I was in Wolf of Wall Street and one of the scenes.

Here we go. Hey listen, hey, gather round. Gather round. Gather round, let me tell you a story. Listen, there's many, I'm almost nine years older than you both. But I always remember, because there was a scene, it was one of the plane orgies,

and the AD told everybody, all the ladies on set, that if you're gonna be on set today, you might be nude, right? And so there was ladies next to Leo, and he said to one of them, just so you know, you're gonna be naked in this scene, so you're gonna take off your clothes, blah, blah, blah. And she was like, actually, I have a contract,

or a previous contract where I'm not supposed to get naked in this scene. He's like, that's totally fine, we're just gonna have to move you out because they've been talking about they want, and she was like, no, I'll do it. And then she just took off all of her clothes because she knew she'd be in the,

she'd make it in the movie. Were you in that scene? Yes, I was in all the orgies. What, you're in the film? Yeah. Have you seen Wolf of Wall Street? I've seen Wolf of Wall Street. I'm the fat ugly one?

I'm the fat ugly one. Oh my gosh, is that you? I'm one of the fat ugly ones. That's other, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm different now. I don't remember., is that you? I'm different now. I love that film. I'm so interested. Hey, I love it. That was the closest I ever got to seeing that. Wait, so you were extras on different... How many films have you been on?

I was an actor in that. You were an actor? I used to act a lot. It's been like six or seven legitimate films? I used to be good. I used to be very castable. Do people get rusty? I you know what's funny is that I think that oh, yeah, I've got fat. I'm just kidding I got skinny and then I got fat again and what isn't like you lost Rose when you got skinny. Oh, yes

Really? Oh, no, I was I will tell you the truth. This is a full-on exposure I was it was between me and Patrick. What's his name Swayze? Always were against each other always no This is a full-on exposure. I was it was between me and Patrick. What's his name Swayze? Always were against each other always know it was all how's her house for I Tanya and then they asked me if I could gain 100 pounds. Oh my god, and they said no Yeah, no, I couldn't get I was too skinny I got you skinny and then I lost all this No, they wanted they wanted me to be better again a hundred pounds Oh, hey, believe me. I just gained five pounds sitting here. I'm a coach Wait don't do is I'm to be what else what have I seen them in yeah?

I did this it was in a show called your pretty faces going to hell. This is amazing for me Cut all this. Can we? Can I get a- Cut all this. I'm like literally, now I'm just talking with them. I wanna do a podcast of him. Yeah, yeah, look at that guy. I do it every week.

It's not that great. Yeah. Can I ask? Can I ask? All right, so now let's get back to- Pull my IDB page. Let's get back to you. No, no!

Trauma movies. Trauma movies. Trauma movies. You're happy, really? Yeah. I love trauma movies. I collected those as a kid. We know Lloyd Kaufman. If you wanna go work for free, he'll gladly take you.

Actually, I think you have to pay him to work for him. Our first six jobs on sets were completely free. I would have loved a Kaufman set. Damn, the Troma movies are awesome. You know it's funny because we did get in touch with that crew and it is, have you found that yet? Have you met, how do I put this? Have you met a hero that's disappointed you?

Do you know what's weird? That the heroes that I've met have all been pretty heroic. Great. Nice. Yeah, Sam Ramey. Oh, he was so nice. You know what's awesome? It's so cool in LA because all these people are local. So we had a movie night just the other night

with Fede Alvarez. Oh, man. And we watched- And Zach Krueger. And Zach Krueger as we watched weapons. Fuck yeah! That was awesome! That was so- I'm like this is so Hollywood right now.

Yeah, I'm like oh my god. And you're like exchanging stories and stuff, it's incredible. Yeah, they're so awesome. Feday Alvarez is funny. Oh, he's cool man. That new Alien movie was fucking awesome. That was so fucking good. I really enjoyed it.

I can't wait to see what else this guy does. Now when you're in this situation, are you guys as fun as you are now or are you like actually playing it cool? Uh, I feel a little bit of both. We're in the middle there because we're at his house, we don't know him too well But you came out with like guns blazing. So I was like, oh yeah, we can cut loose right? That's the goal. Yeah, here we're not as elevated. Any room that we're in, I remember we were at like this A24 party and it was just all these directors were there. Real directors.

Real directors. Yeah. And I felt so out of place in that room I was like I do not deserve to be in here. I should do now man. That's fucking Incredible yeah, dude, you're two for two. Yeah, do you think so? Yeah, I know so I'll tell you what You're different. We talking about The Shining earlier used to be the scariest movie ever saw these two movies have taken it over in one day Are the scariest fucking films I've scarred him

Scar I was I'm like mad at you and also impressed You're saying like characters appear in and out of your films as you're writing them I know that like, you know, obviously there's probably not a lot you could say about you were developing a Street Fighter movie Was M bison ever in talk to me We weren't as in love with bison as we were Akuma, okay Oh, yeah, we love Akuma, you know We were in the Street Fighter rabbit hole for a while was a lot of fun It was traveling around Thailand going to different Muay Thai camps research, looking for the real Sagat who still trains people.

Whoa! To Thailand! That level with a giant Buddha statue, that's a real place. No way! That's an actual place in Thailand. Yes, I was going to these places and I was like speaking to these trainers that apparently he'd been with and they're like, no, he's over here now. So I was traveling around.

It was awesome. It was so much fun. Did you ever find him? Yeah, I found him. Well, he's so tall, it's probably easy. He's shorter than me in real life. He's shorter than me. He's shorter than me in real life. How about Blanca? How was he in real life? Exactly the same.

You know what they say, never meet your heroes. Exactly. Exactly as I wanted him to be. It was hard to turn down Street Fighter. It was hard to walk away. It was hard. It was just a... What are hard to walk away. It was just, it was, it was, it was hard. It was just a, what are you singing? I don't know what that was. It's blues. Yeah, thank you.

It's You're an America. I'm an America, so I started singing. No, it was, it was just, it was just scheduling. It was between Bring Her Back and Street Fighter, and we love Street Fighter. Bring Her Back, it's more personal. It felt more riot. I don't know. Yeah.

You were correct. Well, luckily Legendary pictures is amazing and they I think they're gonna do a good job Something that's gonna come back around also something like that. No because they're making it still I remember I read like a I read an article. They're like it's being postponed indefinitely. No And then I like text them like what's going on with Street Fighter? That's a full story. It's still happening Yes, as far as video games go you know what no one gives a shit about Street Fighter one Street Fighter two is the real game. That's the real game. That's the best One oh yeah, he's saying Street Fighter two is the shit Street Fighter two yeah make Street Fighter 1 because it's bound for failure. It's bound for failure.

Yeah, well, Son of a Street Fighter 2. Oh my god, the set pieces we're making, it would have been brilliant. Anyway, bring it back. Bring it back, Smirly. Are you talking about the interview or? But truly, I think that you made the utterly correct choice because the more you guys are betting on yourself, the more you're making an extremely good movie. I think there's time for you guys to do some IP. Yeah. And what's exciting, as opposed to taking a big IP,

is making your own IP. Amen. And it's like, oh, what if in 20 years they want a remake, talk to me. That'd be pretty cool. They won't, yeah, no. No, they'll be on Talk to Me 10 by then. Yeah, Talk to Me X. Dude, do Talk to Me. That'd be pretty cool. They won't. Yeah, no. No, they'll be on Talk to Me 10 by then. Yeah, Talk to Me X.

Dude, do Talk to Me X in space. Dude, I've written out 40 sequel ideas. I'm gonna show you the list. You will love it. You will actually love it. That is all I want to see. The more they haven't show up at fucking like, you know, it should be go back in time. Yeah.

You can go and password in time. Michael, keep talking while I get this up. You're gonna love this. I need to get my sequel ideas up. Talk to Me, they build it with pyram you guys over time. Yeah, oh my God. Michael, keep talking while I get this up. You're gonna love this. Yes, just like. I need to get my sequel ideas up. Talk to me, they're filled with pyramids. Stop. Stop.

Well, honestly, we're doing this alien festival in a couple weeks. Contact in the desert. Talk to me. Bring that hand to the alien festival. What is this alien festival? What is this alien festival? Contact in the desert.

It's a bunch of people who've been abducted and shit. I was on Time magazine as one of the main photos for the Storming Area 51. No way! Yeah, that was me! He clapped the alien cheeks! I was there! So you stormed Area 51?

Do you have the bullet holes to prove it? I was like, if everyone runs, I'm running as well. And there were SWAT cars everywhere, there was people with guns, and then I was like, I can't wait to get there. We pulled up, like 50,000 people RSVP'd. There was like 50 people there. And I was like I can't wait to get there we pulled up like 50,000 people RSVP'd there was like 50 people there yeah and everyone was like this I think the military were like if you do cross a line I'm gonna shoot you

we literally will shoot you yeah we're not fucking around it's area 51 it's not the capitol building for chrissake it was right it looked scary for those pictures it was terrifying and there were people getting arrested, but it was a good time. Let me get my sequel ideas up quickly. Michael, change the subject. Change it.

Talk to him. Did you Naruto run towards Area 51? I wasn't there. I wasn't there. I Naruto ran. Here's the picture. Does someone edit things? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Here's the picture. In fact, there's two pictures. Here's the two pictures. I went in two different outfits. I was all about it. This is amazing. Wow. How come you didn't, by the way? There's two pictures. Here's the two pictures. I wanted two different outfits. I was all about this is amazing Wow

You know guys, how come you didn't by the way because to be honest, I'm a pussy Honestly, I'm so I must be most I'm sitting in water right now like same as Sally Hawkins I literally am sitting within water right now just to sit. Do you know what's cool about Sally Hawkins? No matter how cold it was, no matter how bad the stump was, they're like, oh, we're going to pad you up because you're about to hit the wall. She's like, was Laura wearing pads? I don't think Laura's wearing pads, is she? There's a scene where she jumps in the water, the beginning of the movie was the first day.

And they're trying to put a wetsuit on her. Yeah, they had wetsuits. She's like, so when was Laura wearing pads? I don't want to wear pads. Did Laura put on this wetsuit before she jumped in, or did she see her daughter and jump in? What's your dad wet suit? She's like so when was Laura wearing? This wet suit before she jumped in did she see a daughter and jump in and I was like yeah She's the fuck. I hope y'all are gonna be pushing for her to get an Oscar for this because it was unbelievable Do I it's too it's probably too genre a together Oscar I thought that not after last year not to after The Substance. My problem is that... Oh yes! The Substance! It changed everything, it's all different now.

If we let the Oscars infect horror movies, it will never be the same. If horror movies get too big for their britches, it's never gonna be the same. We are too big for our britches because... Get back... Step back down. Humble yourself. Yeah, humble yourself. We're gonna win all the Academy Awards.

Yeah. No, no, it's sort of like... I like that the crossover is happening. We are in such a boom right now for horror. It's like... It's like we're in the 80s again. Oh yeah. It's heaven it's sort of like I like that the crossover is happening. We are in such a boom right now for horror It's like it's like we're the 80s again. Oh, yeah heaven. Yeah Yeah, the fact that substance went that far. It's honestly awesome. Yeah body or those for our two sinners now you fuckers It's crazy. What's happening right now? Well, I wouldn't put us in that category You put those three put us

Down there, but no, dude. I mean bring her back. I'm not just sucking for every movie. Yeah. Yeah, like it's a great movie I put it in close to like cuz I right now Mike's truly favorite modern horror film is hereditary And it is right on its tails. It's like doing the same It gave me the same feeling which is literally what Eddie was saying. I wanted to shut the movie off and run away. Yeah. Oh my God. I got up, I literally, at one point today, I stood up in the middle of my living room,

woke up my wife who was still asleep, and I'm like, it's just too much! I mean, it's too much! I was just like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He doesn't even want to, if you've seen the movie, you know what that sound is. Yeah, you know what that is. Here's a story. There was a certain sound that we couldn't replicate.

The sound designer was doing it. So I got a knife, and I did it. And on the microphone, right up close, and that's what you hear. It's like, okay, this is going to be hard to watch. You can close your eyes, but do it so you have to try and close your ears as well It's gonna be too too confronting. See that's a real director though. You stood in you're like, I'm not getting it enough

And also yeah, so like part of me is like, oh, I think this could like maybe like like non-genre fans But I could and other part of me that cause the scenes like that I'm like you have to be a hardened horror fan to enjoy it, but I don't know I don't know what you think you'll stay doing genre forever. I think what we're doing cause of scenes like that. I'm like, you have to be a hardened horror fan to enjoy it. But I don't know. I don't know. What do you think you'll stay doing genre forever? I think what we're doing the documentary next. Yep. So there's that. And then I think that we're writing a few different things. We are.

But I think the next thing. Like I still want to do two more horror films. I know first of all, I've got two that I've got mapped out in my head, me and my co-writer and like, I need to do them. People are going to be coming to see them if you make them. What's the documentary? The Deathmatch Wrestling. Oh, oh yeah. That's also going to do them people are gonna be coming to see him if you make them. Yes, the documentary the death match wrestling Oh, yeah

They're gonna do extremely well because I think that people are really interested in that and wanting see because it's a world So yeah, I mean well, I just don't know cuz that's real blood. I don't know how many people can actually watch it It's a real underground form of wrestling, but it's exciting. I find it exciting How does people when people get into death wrestling? Like honestly, like is it just is it real not not to I'm not saying that they're not gonna go to real wrestlers, but it's like trained wrestlers also doing it as well Yeah, it's just psychopaths. Yeah Big thing of the documentary is why what draws people to do it? Why do they do it? But they are professional wrestlers

They are doing a train. Yeah, yeah, but it's and it's not for money. It's not it's God forbid something else Much money for it and they're literally killing themselves. Yeah, it's passion There's a few different reasons. Yeah, that's how much that's what I bring to my Hold on I'm so sorry. I I just want to when does this alien festival thing? I really want to go so are you a guy are you a true believer? I love alien shit, please if you're ever in town for this It's at the end of May each year is called contact in the desert damn is in the May damn it I'll leave tomorrow, but it's the number if you're ever here

I'm certain that I don't know what Australia has in terms of UFO coverage you guys actually have one of the most mysterious There's a great deal of UFO lore. Oh, I know in Australia. There's nothing else to do, but look at the sky Which one it's called param, please please he's elucidate param they Experiment on aliens. No, no, is that a base? It's a base. And there's a town near it, and when the lights go red, no one can get out of their house. Fuck yes! Yes, I've been there.

And it's horrific. Really? No, no, it's pretty chill. But like apparently there's theories that there's aliens there. I've not seen any such aliens. Where is that located? In South Australia. South Australia?

Yeah. Because we went through South Australia, we drove to Snowtown. Lovely place. See that's crazy, the guys have been to Adelaide. You're the only American that's been to South Australia South Australia. Yeah, because we went through South Australia. We drove to Snowtown Lovely crazy the eyes have been Adelaide For 28 hours and we were like, you know, let's drive to Snowtown What were you doing you doing a show that yeah, you were doing a tour in Australia New Zealand There's like concerts don't come to Adelaide because no one goes to things. Dude, Adelaide was... The theatre we were in was awesome.

Damn right, Adelaide. What a dog, we love you Adelaide. Adelaide, Rippon. I love Rippon. Adelaide was one of our best shows in the fucking entire little tour. See, that's awesome. I love, see, it's changing then. The pendulum's shifting.

Maybe we are becoming a bit more cultured and arty. It was funny. It was like, there were literally three dudes in the front row, they were like the three stooges, they were beating each other up the whole show and like throwing beers at each other, it was amazing. But it was very funny, it was like they weren't even that disruptive. You know what I mean? Like they were kind of just amongst themselves.

But we went to Snowtown and they literally looked at us because they know why we're there. Like why are these three fat Americans here? And they're like what brings you to town? What brings you to town? And we're all like just driving The Indian food Just driving I heard a disturbing story because you know how the the barrels got discovered because the smell Yeah, yeah, and the sludge Yeah

So there when it did get found out and was on the news and everything People were like like driving there and then trying to sniff under the bank vault to smell the oh Nothing I love better than a true crime story that's scratch and sniff We I forgot to offer you guys would you like some cheese crackers knife? I'd love some cheese Man you are too fucking Larry canikans, aren't you? Yeah, we're a little, Michael, are you okay? Sorry. What, he does definitely not dress like that,

can that hurt him? Just take it easy, Matt, take it easy. You know what I had in the, I was gonna bring it, but I thought against it, it's in the car. What is it? I had a fake knife and fake blood, and I was gonna start chewing it. No, you had a blood all over the carpet.

He did a real, you should probably not. Oh yeah, it's a shining carpet, yeah. Oh! Yeah, it's a shining carpet We're very on brand here, oh my gosh, yeah, we're very very on brand your plants are fake Yeah, we got a lot of culture mom. That's from oh that is from a wonderful place. We hear what's called Lowe's Wonderful place here. Oh alien So, but you know if you ever want to come to, like, Contact in the Desert is awesome, but it's like, we're all true believers. It's the first place that I've ever been to where I went to this place. It's at this resort near Palm Springs, Contact in the Desert, and

we, I kind of thought we'd all be getting drunk and being in the pool. And it's like, all of these nerds in the lobby talking about UFOs They are they make me like dressed up by like galactic fighters and stuff and I am out of place I'm almost like I thought I was a serious one. I'm used to like literally alienating people making people upset I was like y'all are alienating me like I was like you guys should be in the pool For you to fuck like this is the time for you all to flirt and fuck each other. You shouldn't be here. You're all talking shop. Oh my god.

We were writing an alien movie. Yeah, you better. Hold on, hold on. In the defense to the galactic warriors, you needed someone to defend you. If the aliens were coming, they were already. While you were fucking in the pool, they're protecting you. I'll fucking aliens!

I would fucking- who knows what disease you'd contract. But listen, listen, listen. We were writing it, writing an alien movie, but then Jordan Peele released the trailer for Nope. Yeah! And I was like, nah, alright. Nope was good as hell. But Nope he kinda made it into sort of like a creature feature.

It was Jaws. Yeah, like more than an alien movie. I still think, you guys got an alien movie. Oh my gosh. There's no way you guys don't have an alien movie. Oh, we were writing an alien movie. Oh, and there's this one scene. Do you know what's a great alien movie?

Fire in the Sky. Yep. How great is that as an alien movie? And Phenomenon, the documentary Phenomenon. I love how it's wrapped everything up. Dude, Travis Walton spoke at the festival last year and then at night. He's playing guitar by the fire They're like flirting with like he's like I want to tell you a story about that off-camera. Okay, great. It's the best. It's the best story over here

No, no alien alien vibe alien story vibes. I really think that you're because you know, it's It's the best. It's the best story over here I love it. No alien alien vibe alien story vibes I really think that you're because you know, it's it's very real cut that out because I feel like they're left leaving out We didn't mean to leave you out. No, we love to leave Out it's just one of those things that if you talk about you could get the trouble you've already given away like five spoilers for your movie Five spoilers for your movie that's not even out yet. Don't even worry about it. Do you know all this stuff? But I was researching about how the United States

had nuclear weapons bases in Australia pointed at North Korea. And when we decommissioned all those bases, then all of this UFOs, like this is all in the last three years, there's like a massive influx of Australian UFO stories that were hidden for a long time because they were all now told by guys that are decommissioned officers from those old bases. Here's my thing.

Aliens are real, sure. Bring it back to the cinema very soon. Don't forget that, guys. It's out now. Bring it back. You guys can check that out. Bring it back just so we remember. Okay, you know how we've got drones and we're

flying them around? And you know how we can like observe planets from all the smiles away? You know, we are light years away, we can observe. If they're that sophisticated, and they're that ahead of us, and their technology is stuff that we couldn't imagine, how are we capturing them on camera? Why are they floating around down here? They can observe us from- No, but how are we even not... How's all the footage looks like it was on like a Nokia 3315? No, but even when it isn't, even when it isn't...

There's no... Where's the 4K? Even when it isn't... If you can look at other planets, where's the good footage of the aliens? What if we are barely acknowledged by them? What if they're... Half the phenomena could be interdimensional. So what if when we see something that looks like an amorphous floating like kind of QB type thing that is our Translation in this dimension of a craft that is literally going on a grocery store run

In the another dimension that might look like one of those like things from like Starfleet. They're not even in it or this dumb that might look like one of those things from Starfleet. They're not even in it! Or there's dumb aliens. Like tourist aliens. There has to be! There's dumb tourist aliens. And they crash the UFO out on Earth like, oh what the hell are you doing?

They talked about this and it's the BT. It's the BT! Yeah! Don't tell me, Greg, stop crashing and fucking on planet Earth! You crashed on Earth again! Just go outside of the atmosphere! Take a look at this, I got the keys to dad's car. Are you going on it?

Come on, bring the alien booze. You don't like it? That's the stuff that's fun. Yeah, but going back to what you said, it's hard to get a picture of that stuff because you're so in shock when you see it. Like right now, going back to my dying dog. All right, I got a 17-year-old dog that has seizures, OK?

And every time she has a seizure, I'm supposed to get a video of it. Be careful with the knife. I'm supposed to get a video of it for the vet the knife I was supposed to get a video of it for the vet But every time I'm like worried about the seizure so by the time I get the video out she's done season Why you have to do things with the aliens? Him filming his elderly dog seizing is definitely the same as intergalactic travel You could be in that much shock.

I don't know. If I saw the UFO, I would get that. But you're a director. Alright, just give us three Talk to Me sequel concepts that you were going to do before we go. Before we go, quickly, what happened was my phone isn't working in terms of... Is there Wi-Fi here? No, no Yes, it's right there. Michael. Do you want to did you have some talk to me ideas?

It's not gonna work unless I read them out I'll pitch you one. All right, you ready? I love it. Go right and bison. Okay All right, baby Alvarez Okay? Oh fuck. He's sitting there. I'm gonna go with this. We've already got that one. That one's written down. Alright. Fede Alvarez. He's like... Dude, you write it as you, as directors. Super meta.

Oh yeah, like New Nightmares. Yeah, but that's like number 11. Yeah, that's when we really get desperate. Alright, it's gonna come. It's gonna come. It's gonna come. It's gonna come. Me too.

Can't wait. It's gonna come. Oh, I'm gonna cause that! Don't make him come. Please don't make him come. Alright. Talk to me. It's gonna come it's gonna come it's gonna come it's gonna come it's gonna come it's gonna come it's gonna come Talk to me yep, okay Talk to me again. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Talk for me. These are titles these aren't Talk to me five more times No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Who's Talking to Me Now. Oh yes, I love that, see the lyrics? Again, all these are just titles, right? No, no, these are movies. These are movies.

I've written lots for these. Talk to Me Hand Takes Manhattan. Yes! Oh, it's gotta be in the 80s club scene. Yes! Oh yes! Yes. You can get a producer credit card.

Oh yeah, it gets a long pinky nail and it starts doing like, it does coke for people and shit. Now we're getting silly at it. No we're not, we're getting good. These are good. Talk to me triple X, porno in space. Everyone's expecting space. Don't give them what they expect. Full penetration. Talk 12?

No, that one didn't hit. That movie's not as popular. That one didn't hit as much. Unless it's in a heist, and it's like Ocean's 12, and then you have George Clooney having to steal the hand from a casino vault. Yes, see, yeah. Yes, I, yeah,

Talk to me! That's like an AI version with Michael Jackson. Ha! Ha! Ha! Talk to me! Hey, hey, hey, shut up! That's like an AI version with Michael Jackson. Ha! Ha! Ha! Dr. Beakley! Dr. Meade! Hey! You guys want to see what this is like?

Oh my god, because of the glove! Yes! Oh wow! See, he's getting it. Thank you. These are smart. Torque Tomey and bombed foot version. Oh, that's disgusting.

Yeah. Torque... That would honestly make... Why is it if it's a foot foot I'd vomit if I saw the film You have to suck on the top toe There was a sucking of top toe in that movie There was plenty of toe sucking in the movie Did you vomit?

No Well no but not if it's hmm Toe sucking was actually kind of peaceful You liked that scene He mouth kisses the dog, he sucks on his wife's toes And he's a huge fan of your film And he just speaks I know what's up He now kisses the dog, he sucks on his wife's toes, and he's a huge fan of your films. And he just...

I know it! I know it! It all adds up! He's... he is the guy... This is the best movies I've ever seen. You're marketing it towards him. How about... oh, the porno one should be cocked at me. Oh, cocked at me! Yes. There was a talk to me porno.

There was a talk to me porno. Oh, of course! Seriously? Yeah, yeah, I sent it to Sophie. There was a talk to be porno. There was a talk to be porno. Oh, of course. Seriously? Yeah, yeah, I said it to Sophie. And I was like, was that inappropriate? But then she laughed. I was like, dude, that is a high level of praise.

I know. Yeah. And that possession porn, it was really awesome. Was it like fingering someone and then like she saw a ghost? I didn't watch it that intensely. Come to me? You filmed it, Danny. I did not.

Danny and Dan. Danny and Dan. Dude. It's only harassment if you're in the film. I did not harass. I was not part of that film. But yeah, they'll possess them having sex. Come inside me.

No! That's enough titles about this one. What? Stop telling them to come inside you. They're trying to leave town. What would you say, what stuck with you more, since you watched them both today, talk to me or bring her back? Bring to me or bring her back. Bring her back. Bring her back.

Why? Why? Why? It's definitely like, I was like a half hour in, I'm like, oh, this isn't as bad. I can handle this. And then it's just so unforgivingly brutal. It really is. And it's just like, it made me visibly upset. I had to like, I literally turned it on. I don't think I could have seen it in the movie theater. I'm going to now because I've seen it already and so now I feel like I can see it in the movie theater because I know What's gonna happen? I'm just gonna watch the audience get pissed That I have an experience and have you seen the coffee table I have not yet the coffee tables fucked up Oh, I thought you're talking about the scene in the movie, but that's no I'm talking about a movie called the coffee table

I'll check it out that is fucked up But you know what I like is when it doesn't feel like it's just exploitation that is no like that's what that's what? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it was real and it was best in emotions and like you know as people as someone who's experienced loss You're a fragile person and you make these horrible decisions. That's why Sally Hawkins character is fucking Unbelievable in that movie because you could tell, we were talking about this before you got here, that she used to be a really good person. Yeah.

She would feel for her. Yeah, yeah. We wanted to make it like a character that Young comfortably empathizes with. And I think that's what was great about Sally, is that she brought it, she brought a human element to it. It wasn't, she didn't play it like a horror villain.

She played it as a broken human being. And she's struggling with what she's doing. She really is. And then the button... Well, again, I'm just spoiling it. And the ending! You guys are honestly, the ending is amazing. You have to see the film. Is there, like, what would you say is a series of references for you guys? Like, your films. What are your main,? Like go-to films in your head?

Always in Treatment, which is a TV show. Yeah. Because of how realistic those characters feel and how real the world feels. And something like throwing water on somebody feels like a car crash. So I love that film. I love Let the Right One In.

Yeah. Yes, I think that is a really incredible film. Also kind of wet. Yeah, yeah, there's a,'s snowy snowy you're right Snow is wet And then obviously obviously the Holy Grail exorcist. Yeah. Yeah, everyone talks about elevated horror I'm like they've been elevating horror since the 70s. Have you seen the exorcist? Have you seen Rosemary's baby? Yeah, yeah, like those mouse hunt is a good one. Yeah, Marcus obsessed with fucking mouse hunt

You've seen mouse hunt? Mouse hunt. It actually is a good film. Is, Michael's obsessed with Mouse Hunt. You've seen Mouse Hunt? Mouse Hunt. It actually is a good film. Is that the one with not with French, it's Stuart? They're hunting mice. Have you seen Stuart Little? I haven't seen Stuart Little, but I know the film. Indian in the Cupboard?

Have you seen that? Nothing I would love to see is the Mouse Hunt to Bring Her Back pipeline. It's connected more than you think. They were very practical like those that mouse hunt they did things so practically it is a little bit bring it back ish which you know was you know who's funny is that there's an actor in that that used to I used to love that I haven't seen him forever is Lee Evans oh is he in there yeah where the hell's Lee Evans now why is it now he's working on the sequel no I don't think I would be my son too I would you put him in one of your movies yeah I should do now Lee Where the hell's Lee Evans now? Well, he's in Mouse Hunt. He's working on the sequel. No, I don't think. I think he might have.

I would do Mouse Hunt too. You should put him in one of your movies. Yeah, I should do Mouse Hunt too. You should put Lee Evans in one of your movies. Hey, hey, listen. No, no, come here. This is what my parents always do. They'll be like,

have you ever tried being in a film, like a big movie? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you ever thought about making Seinfeld? That's what my parents have thought. You said, did you see me? I started leaning out of the capri. I'm naked at the back of that plane. Did you show them that? Your parents? I had to go see it with my mother, yeah. Oh my gosh.

That was horrible. I saw it with my mother too, actually. She was fine with it. She was happy that she was getting attention. Oh, she was getting attention? Well, just in terms of just being there, my mom just kind of believed that she was on display. Oh, right. You know what I mean? She was getting attention. Well just in terms of just being there my mom just kind of believed that she was on display Oh We invited my mom to come watch bring her back in America, but she wouldn't come why yeah, she doesn't like flying I understand. It's a fucking horrible flight And she has anxiety about it and 824 were trying to do everything like oh what if we can bring a friend what if we get

Up the class and then my mom still said no no it's yeah But you know that she will see it though you guys and she'll be damn proud Yeah, she'll be so proud proud of what she made She then get she made the film cuz she made you she did she she was based on her Wow One scene which which one? That punch. Oh yeah? We did a couple of takes for real.

Whoa. Whoa. I'm jacking up, jacking up. Oh, I believed you. I believed you. You're a stunt man. Yeah, I don't believe anything you tell me. That's my job.

We have committed an act of... Sally insisted she had to hit the blind girl. Yeah. She insisted. Was that girl able to do all that stuff with her eye? She's actually is, she's got vision impairment. Okay. She's great.

She's so good. She nailed it. She never acted before. Really? Yeah, it was her first time acting. All of the acting in both of the films was incredible. I was so impressed, especially because I didn't recognize anybody, obviously, because it's Australian films, and I was so impressed by because I didn't recognize anybody obviously because it's Australian films And I was so impressed by the acting and everyone obviously I'm sure you guys had a lot to do with that

But they all scared the shit out of me About finding the right people when they're in the audition process Yeah, it's in the auditions and everyone's so committed and down So yeah, we're blown away by everyone especially young actors and everything You just let them know like there's no such thing as a bad take. And you can change dialogue if you want to. Don't be embarrassed about anything. You're not letting anyone down.

It's like building up a trust and letting them know that it's okay to fail. There's no wrong or right take. It's just about finding it. I also think that you are setting a good benchmark for responsible auteurs making stuff. Because again, you name two auteurs like William Friedkin, Roman Polanski, both famously not great guys. two alters like William Friedkin Roman Polanski both famously not great guys We'll do one freak it was just a crazy. He was crazy But you guys were but that's just wonderful to see you're setting a great new tone and you're making you're not only setting a great Friendly tone, but you're also making truly horrible and horrendous movies, and that's the fucking best shit

the world. I can't wait to make another movie Yeah, I just want to be on set already. It's getting there man, but don't worry. They'll force you. They're gonna make it So check out bring her back, please one of the I'm gonna say it's probably the best horror movie of the year so far Oh, yeah, I mean we saw sinners. It's like sinners obviously It's like sinners in this or like obviously they're gonna be you know you and Ryan Google around them big here Danny Michael Philippo, thank you for lowering yourself Haha, so Danny Michael Philippo. Thank you for lowering yourself We enjoyed being here. Oh go have fun in New York promote the shit out of this thing. Thank you, sir Have fun with the alien thing. We will. Farewell. VFX, I'm gone

Guys thank you so fucking much, man