Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 120: The Satanic Government Part III: The Franklin Cover-Up Part II

Episode Date: February 17, 2015

Our series on the Satanic government draws to a close with the investigation, trials, and the ultimate injustice that is the Franklin Cover-Up.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last time. On the left. That's when the cannibalism started. What was that? That sounds good. That sounds good. That's perfect right there. It feels good. Feels good. Feels good. Sex. Feel so good. Alright everyone that's Marcus Parkes. I'm Ben Kissel back in the studio with us. We have a fella. Who is he? I got back into town. I'm a little hungover. Let's just say call him Henry Zabrowski but don't call him late for dinner. Henry Zabrowski. That's the character.

Yeah. Yeah. That's a very real to life character today. That's good. Henry. It feels so good to be back in the studio. We have a lot of controversy though and I know you can't say much. Peanut Butter Gates. It's really been heating up the Facebook page. I cannot express the actual details of said Peanut Butter Gate but let's just say I had a run-in with Peanut Butter. You had a run-in with it. Yes that's the reason why we didn't have an episode last week. There was a run-in with Peanut Butter that could not be avoided. You would be surprised. What Peanut Butter does and the properties of Peanut Butter are interesting. Because it's a fatty. It's like mayonnaise but for children. I consider mayonnaise for adults.

Sure. Mayonnaise is an adult condiment. You have to be an adult to understand it. Peanut Butter is for a child. It's a good source of protein. That's right. Yeah. That's another fact I can say about Peanut Butter. Yeah. And I can say it takes seven pounds to cover me in it. Seven pounds. Well that's not bad. So there was a run-in with Peanut Butter. Well you look great.

You should also. Yeah. I will say Peanut Butter certainly clogs up a shower drain. That's awesome and it's really fun when the look on a maid's face when you walk home and she's walking out of a hotel room literally because it's like a room full of peanut butter chunks all up in the shower. Right. I may have left a duke in the toilet reeking a weed in their beer bottles and a scotch bottle just like all over the place. Everywhere. The excreta stains everywhere. And not a woman to be found.

No. Not a woman. No, no, no. It's very hard to say when you want to come back to my place that it looks like a senator's orgy as if it was a part of some gigantic. Cover up. That's right. Of course we're on part three of the Satanism and Government. But Henry, of course, you know, we've had a lot of negative words and a lot of negative nativity towards Satanism. You want to clear the clear the Satanist name.

I just want to say it again. Let's all remember why we are Satanists because it's fun because the girls are beautiful. They are the men are powerful. The women are powerful and beautiful and the men are us. The men are us. And this allows us to hang out with powerful, beautiful women. That's right. Yes.

And all commiserate. And the Satan is just great for the legs. Satan feels so nice when it's just swishing back and forth between your legs, around your balls. You know what I mean? So the robes are great. Black goat teas are coming back. But I want to say let's all remember. I feel like you're sort of the reason that the vast majority of mentally stunted people became hippies in the 60s.

For the fashion. For the fashion. You're just sort of like the fashion of Satanism, not the tenets of Satanism. But that's true. Satanism is about symbols and filling them with energy and power and enjoying yourself. And you know, you're fighting for your right to be by yourself. Sure. Which is wonderful.

So let's give everyone a taste to remember of what makes Satanism fun. Yeah, let's hear it. Hit it, Anton! Immediately think of a monkey, huh? This is Anton LeVe playing the Calliope. Big ol' smile on his evil face. God, it's terrifying. I know, it is still scary.

But that's the best part. Come into the party, won't you? No, no. Can we at least maybe turn down the volume of the Calliope so we can speak with each other? They are really loud. No, there's just some girl just like moving her pec muscles back and forth through her making her boobies bounce. That would be fun. That would be fun.

Is there any other- A dolphin with a fucking weed shoved in his hole? And you can fucking spark the top of it and then French kiss it and suck all the weed smoke out of its head? Yeah, definitely. That'd be amazing. Definitely. Is there any other sound that this instrument can make? No, that's it.

The only one. All it can do is circus drone and phantom music. Yeah. That's the only thing a Calliope can make. Yeah. Just beneath the ukulele. That's an interesting one. Oh, that's bullshit.

I hate the ukulele. Yeah, it's the worst. The ukulele has got nowhere near the power of a Calliope. At least the Calliope can fill a circus with noise. Yeah. Calliope is ear splitting. Yeah, that's true. I'm in so much pain.

We got to get to part three here, guys. So let's jump into this. So just again, turn out the lights to your hotel room. Put on a old stinky robe and start getting out the strings to connect dots on a map somewhere inside your home right now. Yeah. Get that glass of bourbon going. Let's dive into this peep of shit.

Yeah. Don't do any of that. Stay with your wife. Do you know how close I came to making a diagram on the wall? No, I know. Like really close. You made a nine page outline. I made four nine page outlines.

And the first one was 25 pages. God bless your girlfriend. That's right. She's a real sweetheart. Quitting up with all that. So we left off last episode with the satanic abuses of Loretta Smith, possibly the most disturbing interviews that we've heard so far. They had a bunch of little boy tartar and it was really, you know,

it's really hard when you make a baby smoothie because, you know, I mean, the protein's great. Well, sure. Yeah, it's on par with peanut butter. Yeah. So it's at this point that a man named John DeKamp comes onto the scene. If there's a hero in this story, he's it. John DeKamp and Gary Caridory. John DeKamp is a true, like this is where I feel like we can inject

some hope into this story where people came forward to fight for these kids. And John DeKamp was one of them. Yeah. John DeKamp is a saint. This guy, he was one of the most decorated Vietnam vets that there were. He initiated Operation Baby Lift, which evacuated 2800 orphan Vietnamese children. That's beautiful. That sounds great.

And not only this, this guy is not. You should also stay, you should use Operation Baby Lift to take babies from women who don't want them anymore. Sure. So they can go back to being single and fun. Yeah. Yeah. So this guy, he is not a crackpot.

This is not your standard satanic panic bullshit artist. This guy, in fact, he's a lawyer for the National Child Abuse Defense and Resource Center in Nebraska, which fights against false accusations of child abuse. And it's made up of adults who have been falsely accused of child abuse. So which is an interesting kind of backwards way to fight for justice, where it's like, you know, it's technically, so it's almost, you know, it shows how honest he is that he fights for adult rights and sex and children sex scandals. Right.

Right. Yeah. This guy, I mean, his only interest is justice. And that's what I love about this guy. Real long. So an order guy. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.

Very much real boring at a party. Really, really boring at a party. This is a problem. It's like a way of now. I have now alienated several groups of people with talking about this subject. Right. You know that this is all this dude talks about. Maybe he talks about like the Texas Rangers.

Like maybe he's into something like something. He's got to have a go to. You have to have a plan B if you start talking about child sexual predator rings. And then you're like, their faces want to talk about baseball. Good thing. I know who Nolan Ryan was. He's like a John. Great, great man.

Wonderful man. Not much with the small talk. No. Really just kind of dives right in there with the children and then this physical sexual abuse. But I'll tell you, John DeCamp, when he dies, so does the last Steven Seagal fan. This man must love Steven Seagal. I feel like the law and order justice guy, Vietnam vet.

That's the recipe. Right. Absolutely. He first became involved in the case when it was found that 40 million dollars were missing from the Nebraska federal credit. Because again, you can't get the government to do fuck all until money is involved. Like it's the same, you know, Capone, all these people that were caught on tax evasion. It's all like, as soon as they're not getting their fucking cut, the government's like,

but like, but otherwise they don't, they don't care how many little kids are turned into a fucking Jamba Juice special. Yeah. And I don't know how special that is. I mean, it's off the menu. Yeah. You know, it's like animal style and in and out. You can't always get the baby, the baby smoothie.

Yeah. Well, I enough with the baby. I don't want to hear it's an interesting, it's an interesting detail. It's just a tough visual that I don't even know. Maybe you've got a big straw, something like that. Like, I don't know how. It's just a problem when you have a baby and you name it. You know, don't name it.

That's true. It's a good point. Of course, $40 million went missing and the FBI rated the rate of the federal credit union. And of course, their whole aim with this is that they knew that there was a lot of bad shit in that credit union. There was a lot of bad stuff surrounding Larry King. Because they knew that he was living way beyond his means. He was leaving.

He was living this crazy fucking lifestyle. Money was going missing. Yeah. A lot of money had gone missing. The FBI went in there and their aim was to just erase it. Just to get rid of everything, every bit of evidence that this credit union existed. That's what they wanted to do. Just firebomb the whole thing.

Firebomb the whole thing. However, John DeKamp got wind of this and as he started to investigate it more and more, the more he kind of started to see there were some odd things here and there. A lot of stuff didn't add up. Well, it's because he started going into the Children Welfare Services. There, the reports are being filed with him. He's sort of reading it and just seeing it again and again like Larry King, Larry King. The same thing happened.

What we find out later is that he was tracking Sandusky for years and years. Yeah. This guy, he had mentioned in the book that he wrote. This is the book that we based all our research on. He wrote this book, which was called? The Franklin Cover-Up. Yes. All of these episodes were based on the Franklin Cover-Up.

He mentions the Sandusky thing, he offhandedly mentions it at one point. Because that was before he was arrested for it, Sandusky, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, he wrote that in 1990. Yeah. And this is how much information this guy has. Just offhanded.

Just like second thought, like eighth thought. He's just like, oh, and Sandusky. Yeah. He has a drop out of our ring with football and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got a whole collection of those fucking, those sweet rings, those candy rings at the back of it. He says everyone comes over and treats.

They play the Pope game. Well, you can't commit suicide though, when everybody doubts you. To camp his entire life was probably considered a schmuck by so many people. Every human. And if all of them start to fall, he's just like, yeah, yeah. That awkward dinner conversation. I was right. Yeah.

Oh, I don't care. I don't care that I've ruined the wedding. I was still right. So that's fine with me. And then we see again what's happened with these accusations with Brian Singer and this gigantic Hollywood pedophile cabal that may or may not exist. I've been hearing about this pedophile cabal for years. Because at page seven, it's really interesting just when you're the celebrity gossip angle,

like you're actually picking up, which may actually be the fringes of some gigantic government secret keeping cabal. And then also key for the Sutherland drinks too much. Yeah. That's true. That's true. But now you, what's, what's this? Are you going to go see the new X-Men movie with this Brian Singer guy as the director?

I wasn't going to do it anyway. I hate comic book movies. Comic book movies suck. Very good. Captain America was wonderful. So now that he's starting, now that John DeCamp is starting to gather more information, he, despite having opposition from the local law enforcement, the FBI, and the Omaha World Herald, he forms the Franklin committee out of these Nebraska state legislatures.

Now this was an official government, what's the term? What's the term? Think tank. Right. But I mean, we've seen a lot of other official committees like the Warren committee and what do they do? They put out a fucking binders of hogwash. Hogwash?

Hogwash. It's hogwash. Get them out of here. Would you? So this is when they hire a chief investigator. The chief investigator that they hire is a man named Gary Caradori. I love this guy. I love Gary Caradori so much.

Before we really get into Caradori, we got to talk about the witness that Caradori found that ended up being one of the only two witnesses that were to testify in the grand jury trial to come, a girl named Alicia Owen. No, they believed it because she was a hard person to bring in too. She fought it and fought it and fought it because her and Paul Bernacke were in contact for a long time. And Paul Bernacke kept saying like, you got to come forward. You got to come forward.

And she's like, no, no, no, no. And then finally, she wrangles or wrangs her for the Franklin Committee. Yeah. I mean, her testimony, like she details abuse that goes back as far as 1983. I mean, and going back to the child pedophile ring, you know, these Hollywood in Hollywood, you know, they have an opportunity to not have an acting career, which you could argue is a luxurious thing to have in the first place. An acting career is the silliest career of all time.

That's right. So it's not real. Okay. I'm sorry. I would say I'm not going to suck your penis and I will say I'm fine with not having an acting career. I would walk empire. It will be okay for me.

But this woman is going against a huge, very dangerous organization. A mafia style bunch of folks who are threatening her life on a regular basis. And then meanwhile, a lot of time, these peoples, their reputation is so thoroughly smeared by the end of their lives are trashed. So of course their view is crazy. They're discredited for the rest of their life. No one believes a word out of the mouth for the rest of their life. And this girl, she wasn't a homeless, she wasn't homeless, she wasn't a drug addict.

She came from a nice family. She was never abused. She was just kind of a wild child. At the age of 14, she hooked up with a bad crowd. But this is where the victim blaming comes into. And this is exactly who they preyed upon a lot of these times is these kids that were kind of lost looking for somebody and they were partiers. And so now like that's the needle that the government can use every time.

And basically being like, well, wasn't she looking for it? And it's like, she's 14. She doesn't know. Yeah. Yeah. I did a lot of dumb shit when I was 14. I used to slick my hair back. You know what I mean?

I used to slick my hair all the way back to call myself the flying grape. I had to have a thing. You have to have a thing. You do have to have a thing. Yeah. So she started going to Larry King's parties at 14. And of course her testimony is just as awful as every other bit of testimony that we've had here.

But she does implicate a very important person in her testimony. She implicates police chief, Omaha police chief, Robert Wadman. Officer Wadman. And by the way, Robert Wadman, very close friend of Nick O'Hara, the regional head of the FBI. She claims, Alicia Owen claims that Robert Wadman raped and impregnated her and shoved the barrel of his gun up her vagina. Now, if you'll remember from our last episode.

And that's not normal protocol. That's bad. Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. And so if you'll remember from the last episode, Robert Wadman was the guy that walked down to the offices, the Omaha police department and told investigators to immediately stop

investigating Larry King. Of course. Because he was right on the list. Yeah. He was right on the list. And those are the other things. I got into a very detailed conversation in which I alienated a group of people last night. And I was saying this too.

I think a lot of times, especially in these like after after parties, you were saying the same thing about like, I think there's not everybody fuck the kids, but they were people were asked to stick around, you know, and some people like Nick O'Hara and stuff like that was probably like a dude that was just forced to sit there and watch it and just be like, and what did you see? Nothing. Like it's like, did you see me do it? Did you see me do it?

Yeah. And then like, no, because they have to, they bring that they create the gigantic secret cabal. Yeah. Not a lot of courage with these fellows. No. And then just on the initial interviews with Owen, Gary Caridory, the chief investigator, he recommended, he's a private eye too, right?

Yeah. I love this guy because he's a fucking civilian. It's like, I literally want to play this guy in a movie one day. I'm just like the guy who he's left it all on the line. He signed up for this project. He has like, I was reading a thing about him saying the same thing where he was like, he did it. It's the classic.

Like he did it for the money. Yeah. And then he was like, my God, this thing goes back forever and then I got like jumped into it. Head first. Well, I think in about 10 years, you could just make a reality show that's going to be your life. Henry Zabrowski, private eye.

I could see it. So Gary Caridory, based on this initial interview, he subpoenaed 62 people, 62 people that Alicia Owen was able to name that she said were a part of this ring or were victims of the ring. Yeah. One of the two. So Gary Caridory, he starts investigating these people. He starts investigating, what was his name?

Rusty. Yeah. Rusty Nelson. Yeah. Rusty Nelson. Yeah. Rusty Nelson, yeah. Rusty Nelson, yeah.

Rusty Nelson. Rusty Nelson. Yeah. Rusty Nelson. Yeah. Rusty Nelson. Yeah. Rusty Nelson.

Yeah. Rusty Nelson. Yeah. Rusty Nelson. He starts investigating Rusty Nelson, who you'll remember from our last episode, was Larry King's private photographer. He tracked him all the way to Chicago. He flew his private plane there and he took his eight year old son along with him.

but I mean, he's a private detective. He's got his own motives. I mean, yeah, you gotta get on the plane and go, yeah. I mean, and before this, he had gone through a lot of harassment. His house was broken into in 1989. A telephone repair man told him that his phones were tapped.

Oh no, this guy, he was run through the ringer over and over again. And so this was leading up to, this was because they could not get an official investigation, right? Because like up until this point, like the Franklin committee, that was technically the most official it got,

but no criminal charges were ever really put upon Larry King or anything like, right? No, nothing was filed. We'll get to the grand jury investigation. You gotta get to grand jury investigation. This is all leading up to the grand jury investigation. This is all leading up to the grand jury, of course. So he's in a plane with his son.

They're having a good time talking about, oh, look how high we are up in the sky, son. Oh, rum, rum, rum, rum, rum, rum. And she's like, daddy, is it true that sometimes a plane can just blow up out of the sky? No, no, that's never happened. Not in the history of planes. And another father lies to his son.

Yup, his plane blew up in midair on its way back from Chicago. And this is also when he, cause he had just made a phone call too, saying like, we got him. They can't get away from this one. He had some pile of documents. Yeah, he called Nebraska state senator Lawrence Schmidt

and he said, she was the head of the Franklin committee. John DeCamp was just a part of it. She was the head of the Franklin committee and he said, we've got them. There's no way they can get out of it now. So he did make contact with Mr. Rusty Nelson. Which again, do we mention that that sounds like a terrible sexual possession?

Yeah, of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, no. Rusty Nelson doesn't even need to be mentioned. Never give a woman a Rusty Nelson. Never name your son Rusty. No, no, definitely not. Because all he's gonna be is a private photographer. And if you're a private photographer, God knows. I feel like it involves like a period,

but then it's all just like crusted over. And then you're just like, oh, give me that Rusty Nelson, give me that Rusty. I just imagine it's just like rubbing a bunch of nails in between your hands and finger in someones. Yeah, yeah, real construction worker sex. Woof! Either way.

So Caridory, he even speaks like a private eye. Before he got on the plane, like he told his wife, if even half of what I've heard is true, this is the biggest thing that ever hit Nebraska. Yeah. Yeah. It's between that and cold. Gary, you never pick out the garbage, Gary.

You never take out the milk. It would be definitely the biggest thing that's ever hit Nebraska though. Oh yeah. Yeah, no doubt about that. So the explosion of farmer saw the plane explode in mid air. But farmers, they're already afraid of planes. Oh, they're afraid.

Every time they see a plane, they're just like, that bub needs to be put in the cage. They don't understand. Space gods. Yeah, yeah. And so the plane goes down, and initial news reports, you know, they quote this farmer, they say that, you know,

yes, a farmer saw a flash in the sky. He heard an explosion. He saw a plane go down. TWA 800. Gonna throw that in there as well. Oh my goodness. Yeah, it's pretty much the same thing. Has there ever been a reliable farmer?

Has anybody ever taken the farmer's word? No, it's open. No, because how many times a farmer being like, oh, you're going up to old McKeeva's cabin, huh? Well, I wouldn't be going on up there, you know, because McKeeva's black and he just hates blacks. I know, it's a racial thing. No, because they're always warning people

to not go to the haunted cabin. They live terrified lives. That's what these isolated farmers do. What are you talking about? They're with corn. There's nothing scary about growing corn. The government's paying them not to do anything. Yeah, that's true.

You don't know until you've been out there alone, Henry. Scary stuff. Once you've been out there alone, then you come talk to me. You tell me how it's unscary. So the plane pops in midair. This farmer's like, well, I never saw that before. And so he reports it to the police.

He reports it to local newscasters. But on subsequent reports, all the newscasters say that the plane exploded when it hit the ground. Sure. And so what's the difference there? If it explodes in midair, if it hits the ground. If it explodes in midair, then something exploded it. And there was either some kind of problems with the engine

or there was a surface-to-air missile that took it down. Or there was just a bomb planted on board. Or anything like that. If it just explodes on the ground, then that just goes towards mechanical failure. Like something fucked up. But when deputy sheriffs first arrived on the scene, they reported that there was child pornography pictures.

There's a story of that that they said it slittered all over the thing. Like all these naked kid pictures everywhere. And then it was at some FBI guy literally showed up. It was like, I'll be taking these. And like put them all in a garbage can left. Three flatbed trucks, they say. Three flatbed trucks.

Well, they took all the wreckage as well. Oh yeah, because again, it was like, why is the federal government coming here to pick up an airplane? Kind of like what happened on TW 800. Why did the government show up? They don't show up to pick up fucking wreckage of a private plane crash.

I'll tell you, MIB, men in black, more like men in boys. Am I right? Heller. Yeah, that was a pretty good one. Yeah, it is. But men in boys does sound like a forum somewhere on the tour.

Oh, I'm sure that it is. I'm sure that it is. Yeah, that's an offshoot in Nambla right there. It's a much better story though than finding aliens that may or may not be running pawn shops. Finding people who have sex with kids. Like that's what these people should be doing. Yeah, it would be hard to get the PG-13 rating on that.

Yeah, that's the real Smith. That you need for summer blocks, but you know. So adding insult to injury here, they never notified Karidori's wife of his death. She only heard about it when she, friends heard the news on the radio and they called her. The day after Karidori was killed, the FBI descended on his office,

subpoenaed all of his records, took everything that they had. And this is when John DeCamp finally writes the infamous DeCamp memo. What's the official cause of death? Official cause of death? Plain blow up. But was it murder or was it just mechanical failure?

Mechanical failure, yeah, they just ruled it as an accident. Okay. And so the DeCamp memo was what blew the lid off of the entire investigation. This was when he came out, John DeCamp came out and said this fucked up stuff is happening, there's these child pedophile rings, Larry King is involved in it,

Robert Wobbins involved in it. Which I'm sure takes so much strength to do because you're just now you're open for any attack. And you know they've already killed somebody. Yeah. Yeah, you know that. And Gary Karidori is the perfect example of why it's very hard to be a hero in this country.

I mean, or anywhere in the world. Why it's very difficult to be somebody who sticks his neck out for somebody because most of the time you get murdered. Yeah. Yeah, and you get murdered and no one goes down for it. Nobody goes down for it, no. True detective.

Again, it's the same true detective, it's real. It's real. It's real, it's absolutely real. So this, of course, the Decant Memo goes out and immediately every one of the victims, every one of the people who are making these accusations and John Decant himself, they're immediately attacked by the Omaha World Herald.

Which is just like, again, this weird thing of, look at another industry that has tied into this cover up. Like entertainment, sports with Sandusky, the fuckin' media, it's nuts. It's all the same thing. The media has been a mouthpiece for, you know, on a macro scale, it's a mouth, CNN and Fox Real Mouthpieces for the federal government.

And this is just a local version of it. Local version of it that just so happens to also have a fuckin', the federal government still has its hand fuckin' elbows deep of its ass. I was just talkin' to a friend about this. Yeah, remember Syria when we were gonna go in there? And the war's gotten worse, but, you know, they don't talk about it anymore

because they don't wanna, you know, trump it up the beats of war any longer. They don't wanna convince us that we wanna do it. So they just stop talkin' about it. They just stop talkin' about it. So it feels like it all goes away. Yeah, but it's gotten worse, you know? Yeah, yeah.

I was just so sure of the Omaha World Herald. Harold Anderson was a big supporter. Hello, my name is Harold Anderson. That is my real name, Harold Jean-Peter Anderson. Jean-Peter, interesting. He was a big supporter of Larry King. He raised money for the Franklin Credit Union. One of their columnists, Peter Citron.

He had been arrested for pedophilia many times. Oh, good. It just seems like that's the best thing. One time. The one time. You could arrest him one time for pedophilia. Just kidding. Cause it was like, we saw the same thing with John Wayne Gacy.

He got arrested one time. Oh, he was just didlin'. Boys bein' boys. They're just havin' a good time. Oh, it's a stag party. Oh, there's no rules at a stag party. There used to be just no rule places, yeah. I mean, at this point,

King has been busted now, right? With the Credit Union scandal, all these financial problems, yeah. So how did they even have the audacity to still throw support behind him just on those grounds alone? Because he was a standup man who just had big appetites. Yeah.

So yeah, King was, he presided over the Franklin Credit Union for 18 years. 18 years Larry King had control over this. And the newspaper the entire time, they knew Larry King. They knew him personally. They never once reported on anything that he had. You know, just this fuckin' extravagant lifestyle.

You know how much money he made on the books officially? That was 25,000? 17,000. That's insane. That's poverty line. Yeah, $17,000. I mean, which I guess in like 1980s money is we have probably about 25,000.

Nothing. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I mean, it's more than what we make, but. Everyone knows. Don't bring that up. Yeah, don't bring that up. Jesus, Marcus, what's wrong with you? I just stopped thinking about it.

So if you wanna go even further into this shit, the Omaha World Herald, they are the co-owner of election software and systems. And in 2003, electronic software and systems claimed that in the past decade alone, it had installed more than 260,000 voting systems, more than 15,000 electronic poll books and provided services to more than 50,000 elections.

And then that new study that just came out that showed that America is way more of an oligarchy than a democracy. And you just like watch these controls being put into place by the same people who cover up the same, it's the same thing. We're fucking, we're trapped in it. We're trapped in it.

They run our lives, we can't get out of it. We've had two families in the White House for pretty much the past 25 years. Going back to 80, we had Bush three years in a row and Clinton and now, of course, Bush again. And then we had Hillary in there. And now, of course, Hillary's the front runner again. I mean, it's the same people.

The idea that we have choice is a total myth. And I liked Barack Obama, but you know that he went to one of these fucking parties. Oh yeah. And the same thing, the Bilderberg group and all that stuff. I mean, he might not have gone into room C. No.

But he was, he was. He was in room B. He was in a plaster away. Yeah, he was in room B and they heard the noises and they're all like, oh, don't worry about it. They're playing the charity game of Twister in there. Yeah. Yeah.

And despite, so despite the Omaha World Herald coming against him, despite the Omaha Police Department, the Nebraska State Police, the FBI, the local and state judiciary, all of these people are telling him this, don't do this, don't do this, you cannot do this. He still finally manages, along with the State Foster Care Review Board, who had been investigating this

for two years before. Because they were fighting and they said the same thing. They'd bring the evidence to the FBI and they were like, no, no, no, they're crazy. I still love that whole, I don't love it, but that thing of just being like, oh no, these kids are raped. You can't believe it.

Yeah, I mean, that's the vicious cycle of it. You can't believe anything they say. But I mean, growing up in the foster care system, when I was 12, we started doing it in my family, taking in foster brothers and sisters. They are so stupid. They're all so, I didn't want anyone who was in the foster care system,

not the kids, but the people who run it are literally on par with someone who works at like, you know, a driver's license. It feels like, it's like a DMV. Yeah, it's a DMV. It's the same thing. Like, you know, how many times I've dealt with our city government, I went into the city hall

and it just feels like, you know, there's no care. They don't care. They don't care. I understand that that industry, the foster care industry, is incredibly difficult. But it's a, all you get is horror stories. I understand that there's no pleasant day at work when you're working for foster care.

Very little. Very, very few. And so I understand how that can dead in a person, but it just comes down to a point where it's just like, these kids aren't fucking units to be moved. These are humans, like, and all you're doing is perpetuating a cycle of pain and misery that just makes more miserable adults,

that makes more pedophiles, that makes more killers, that makes more jaded people, that make a gigantic fucking gray fucking gear machine that is our country. And just as they do with prisoners, they give them a number of just as we did with the Jews and anyone who's like, you know, put into slave where you get dehumanized.

No, no, my grandfather never did that. He wasn't on, he wasn't on number duty. But it just dehumanized them. And unfortunately these kids who are abused get that exact same treatment even though they've done nothing wrong. They've done nothing wrong. So the grand jury starts, the grand jury begins

and they want, they're trying to get depositions from 83 people. 83 witnesses are supposed to give depositions, witnesses and people who are, you know, better. What exactly is the grand jury system? So what is, it's like you can, they can, they file a petition to get a court, like a court hearing and that's what it is?

A grand jury, well Ben, you've served on grand jury. Grand jury, yeah, take care of it. Or just, there tends to be 22, 23 people, 12 of them have to agree to send the case to trial. So it's just the prosecution that comes in and makes the government's case or the state's case against the person who's on the defense. That's why it's the people versus,

you know, the people of Nebraska versus. So it was like the people versus the Franklin committee in this case, John and Ken. Or the people versus the Franklin credit union. Okay, cool. Yeah, Larry, and like also Larry King and other. Okay, I just need to do that, explain it to me. Oh, exactly.

I mean, the whole thing is innately flawed because odds are 12 out of any 22 people are going to be able to side. The whole thing is completely, I mean, it's, it's pretty much just. It's rigged from the beginning. It's just a small speed bump to get people into, you know, into trial.

Yeah, yeah. However, this proved to be much larger than a speed bump. This was an absolute nightmare because out of those 84 people, after they got through four depositions, the next 79 witnesses said, there's no fucking way I'm doing this. No, of course not.

Because they watched what happened to the first four witnesses, which is they were publicly embarrassed. Well, two of the, two of the first four, they were killed. Yep. Which that's the most embarrassing thing that can happen to a public. It's crazy embarrassing.

Yeah. And you're asking yourself, of course, and the only people that were really left at the end of it to really give their witness testimony were Alicia Owen and Paul Benaki. Alicia Owen, we mentioned earlier, Paul Benaki, we spent the lion's share of the last episode talking about his testimony.

So the pressure on these two are just, this is insane. It's nuts. Yeah, it's insane. And you ask yourself, where is Larry King in all of this? Of course, Larry King was indicted because of the embezzlement of the federal credit, of the Franklin credit union.

$40 million had gone missing. Of course, where is Larry King in all this? They whisked him away to Minnesota to a mental health facility. Now, why did they- For a psychiatric evaluation. No, this was just because this was to lead up to whether or not he was crazy to,

which is ludicrous before he took the stain of the grand jury. He never took the stain of the grand jury. No, of course, because they kept him in the sanitarium. And it's like, oh, well, he kinda went cuckoo for cocoa puffs. Well, here's what the grand jury actually said, because they never even called Larry King as a witness. They never even tried. Here's what they said,

because King is presently in an institution out of state pursuant to an order from the federal court. And because we believed he would rely on his right against self-incrimination, we decided it would not be fruitful to attempt to require King to appear before us. Which is insane. Attempt it.

Attempt it. Come out there. Just give it a shot. Try it. See if there's, see if somebody can fuck him wiggle their way around to get him to answer some sort of question. How is this being the most powerful manager

of a credit union I've ever heard of? Yeah, it just doesn't make any sense. I gotta meet him. I have to know, is he really that charming? No, it's what we said. It's his fucking, he's got all the pictures. He's got fucking Rusty Nelson clicking away with his fucking iPhone.

You got fucking, and he's got a bunch of people semen in a vial. No, and that's true. And like we were talking about, hell, we could just mention Skull and Crossbones. What they do inside of these ceremonies. You find all the most embarrassing sexual secrets of somebody's life, and then you hold on to him forever.

That knowledge is power. And when it comes to politics, it's all about that power. It's everything, it's about leverage. Yeah. So on July 23rd, 1990, after hearing hours and hours of testimony from Paul Benaki and Alicia Owen, the county grand jury, not only throughout

all of the allegations concerning sexual child abuse, they admitted that abuse had happened, but said that the Franklin Credit Union had nothing to do with it. Not only did they throw out all the allegations, but they charged both Alicia Owen and Paul Benaki with perjury. With jail time.

And we had Jim Polka on Abling and Stompat, and of course the lawyer who's often on New York City Crime Report, perjury is extremely undercharged. It's never charged. It's never charged. You know, they did it because they believed that it was the, what was the one thing

that it was a jealous former employee of Boys Town, and that they, that Alicia Owen and Paul Benaki had gotten together and devised this whole story. And it's just like- Somebody liked Penn State's football team, and you said Dusky was involved, and they wanted to fucking bet on the Rose Bowl. The grand jury said that it was a carefully crafted hoax

scripted by a person or persons with considerable knowledge of the people in institutions of Omaha. It's a really fun D&D game, this whole thing. It's great. It's a great story to tell. I'd love to go to court for fucking months, and make this whole story. Yeah, that sounds great.

That sounds really, that's exactly what I want to do on my fucking Saturday. Go through some metal detectors. Yeah, that sounds wonderful. Yeah, what would be, I mean, okay, let's say it is a hoax. What is the possible benefit? What would be the possible benefit for these people from testifying this?

What would never underestimate the power of getting attention? That's the one thing. It's like- No one wants to get attention for being a victim of a huge pedophile ring. Some people do. Some people are really fucked.

Some people want attention for anything. They say that's why a lot of, you know, false rape accusations happen. Sure, sure. He's either wanting attention or trying to get revenge. Or you're around Ben Rottlesberger. Yeah. And he's got dollars hanging out of his fucking pockets.

And he'll just pay you at the bar. Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah. But no, it's, this is, it's a, but it just seems like, I mean, who knows? According to judges, it's stuff like this, they believe them to be lying, but it just seems so fucking nuts that they would be lying.

Yeah, so okay, so they got charged with perjury. Yeah, they got charged with perjury. And King was charged in this grand jury trial. He was charged with embezzlement. A few of the other officers in the credit union were charged with embezzlement. Let me give you King's sentence first. Oh, okay.

King's sentence, he was given nine years in prison. Okay. That's hard. Alicia Owen, who was charged with eight counts of perjury was sentenced to 21 years. Jesus Christ. 21 years. 21 years. That's just ridiculous.

And then she came out, did she ever make statements as to like, did she ever admit, did she say that she was lying? No, never once. She did four and a half years in prison. So how do they even prove that she was lying? They, because they, they found it. All the evidence is supporting her claims.

The eyewitnesses disappeared. They had nothing to back it up. They don't know, they only have like, or their word against powerful people's words. You don't have the main perpetrator on the stand. It's like, it's, what are you gonna do? It just comes down to it's just this girl who, as far as you're concerned,

is just a former drug addict who's lying to get some kind of settlement so that she can get back on the horse. It reminds me of what we've talked about on Top Hat also with when it comes to votes. Or does your vote matter? Or does your opinion matter? If you're lower rung on the social scale,

it just doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter. Yeah. Yeah. She was sentenced to serve nine to 27 years in prison for telling a grand jury. She was sexually abused. Here's, this is fucking heartbreaking.

Here's, this is an excerpt from the Franklin coverup. This is DeKam sitting in the judge's chambers right before Alicia sentencing. It says, I do not understand it, Your Honor. I kept repeating. As God is my witness, I do not think that there is a judge or other person involved in this case who does not know that horrible injustice has been done.

Everybody knows that Alicia Owen is telling the truth and that she is being punished for it. In your honor, a person has to be blind or totally dishonest not to know that some of this state's and nation's top businessmen and public officials have engaged in the worst crimes possible, which are now being covered up. And these kids, instead of being honored and protected

for exposing these things or being sent to prison, why? And he said, judge and body looked at me, slowly his voice shaking, he began to talk. I'm just a man, I'm not a God. I wish I were. I have no choice in what I have done. I'm just a man, just a man, not a God. I am doing what I must do with the evidence before me.

Well, that's always difficult when you go in for a judge Pontius. Yeah. I mean, there's such a Pontius pilot washing my hands of its situation. Absolutely. And he said that he appeared even more shaken than to camp, the judge.

Like someone had. Oh, I'm sorry, judge. Oh, he must have felt really bad. Absolutely. And he's not wearing any pants under that robe. No, hasn't he? All right, you're all nude. Every judge you see has got his nipples

fucking hard on that stiff judge robe that they're wearing. Yeah, of course. And Alicia Owen spent almost all of her prison sentence in solitary confinement, which is ludicrous, ludicrous. For on a perjury charge. Yep. That is absolutely insane.

But then again, but then we find where this whole story began is this idea that, but their evidence was enough in the civil case that Paul Benaki was awarded a million dollars as a settlement, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we'll get to that in a second. Okay. So Paul Benaki, who also testified with Alicia Owen,

he received five years for perjury. And by the way, his claim held a hell of a lot more water because he had reported all of this shit to the police. When it was happening. Two years. Yeah. Two entire years before the Franklin case started. What's the race of Owen?

They're both white. They're both white, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're both white. And so after Alicia Owen's trial in 1990, DeKamp found this other kid named Troy Boner. And he was gonna- Unfortunate. Oh yeah, we can't make, but he's a victim.

So we can't make- Yeah, maybe we just call him Bonner. How's that about that? I think he pronounces it Bonner. I don't think anybody goes by Boner. And then be the worst name if you were like sexually assaulted. That would be really rough.

That's what sexually assaulted you. He was asking for it. He wanted my Boner. I can't stop him. I gotta stop this guy. So he was, he had more information. Like he had actual, he was willing to testify under oath. He was fucked up.

Yeah. And he said that as he came into the courthouse, he was immediately ushered into a private room by county judicial authorities. Troy was in a room with a special attorney and other officials from the prosecutor's office. He came out of the room and he leaned over and he whispered to the camp.

He said, oh God, forgive me. They guaranteed if I talk to you today, they will put me away for 20 years. Told me I would be charged with perjury for my original testimony. If I open my mouth today in court, look at what they did to Alicia. Look at what they did to my brother.

And by the way, his brother was found dead playing a quote unquote Russian roulette. So we're learning here, never go into a private room. Never go into a private room. And especially in a courthouse. Oh yeah, just in public rooms. Yeah, go with, yeah, not even the bathroom. No, no.

Even go into a bathroom at a courthouse. Go in a plant. Yeah. Go in the plant in the corner of the courtroom. Go outside. Yeah. We're a diaper. Sure.

And then he was, because he told a crazy testimony in the conspiracy of silence documentary. His testimony is very vivid and very intense. Kind of the same thing. He talked about the cattle prod treatment. He talked about they play a game where they would drop a cigarette between him and another kid's arm

and to see which one would pull off of each other. And it's like. Yeah, but we did that in high school. Yeah, I know you did, but you grew up in Texas. Yeah, and you guys were, there wasn't an adult playing the game. Yeah. We watched Terry Gilliam movies.

Different. That's what we did. I did too. Yeah. But no, he, and then he said the same thing. And he was like, he would like talk about how he could, he would like go at Larry King and she'd be like, you're a sick fuck.

Why do you do this? You sick fuck. And he's just like, oh, you like this? You like this? And then they beat him with an inch of his life and then drop him off in front of his house. But again, they were saying there were several times he was supposed to show up to all these witnesses things

and he just would blow it off because he had a very bad drug problem. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, that's sort of, you know, going back to the Hollywood thing again, that Corey Feldman interviews saying when he was 14, he was surrounded by these people forcing oral sex.

You know, or demanding oral sex. And Corey Hame, of course, they both got huge into drugs. And there was that very interesting interview. The two Corey's was a, was that reality show. But they did have an interesting conversation where they both said, you didn't defend me when we were getting molested at 14.

You weren't there for me. You heard what was going on. And it was really telling. Oh yeah. If you could get a chance to watch that clip. It's just that you get into any exclusive group all the way since the beginning of fucking time. Maybe the fucking kids.

But drugs are the best escape from these mental. I can't imagine having been stuck in a brain knowing with this history. What was it the, the, the BTK, the, what was the name of that documentary? I survived BTK. I survived BTK. His whole life was fucking shit.

And they're going to prison. What was it the, what's his last name? Otero. Otero, yeah. So John DeCamp, here's why I love John DeCamp, is that after all of these setbacks, after all of this, the fucker never gave up. Never gave up.

He's still talking about it. Still talking about it to this day. You know, anytime, any sort of, I'm surprised people haven't started asking him about this whole Hollywood pedophile ring. Because, you know, when Sandusky came up, people started talking to him about it. Yeah, I mean, and I found like a great article

where, you know, he was just pretty much, at this point in his career, he's just saying like, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you didn't read. Yeah.

This is just the way it is. Just, yeah. Look at it. Just look at it. It's like all day long. It's just like him, just like all he does is scream like, look at the evidence this is the whole day. Yep.

Yeah. And DeKamp in 1999, he stood by Paul Benaki this entire time. And admittedly, Benaki, he was a fucked up guy. They're all fucked up. Again, that's the vicious cycle. I mean, in full disclosure, Benaki got arrested for sexually abusing a five-year-old. You know, like, I mean, that's just in full disclosure.

And he spent five years in prison for perjury as well. But, you know, so these people, they're fucked up people. No, no one's, no one is, no, that was the thing is that all this does is, it's spread filth. All this stuff does is spread that evil to everybody. Yeah. And it's certainly not an excuse,

but that tends to be the case with a lot of pedophiles, sexual abuse, and they're in their history as well. No, of course. Same thing with drunkenness and spousal abuse. Yeah. Yeah. But DeKamp stood by him through that. I mean, if you're lucky,

then you sort of have like a Barry Sanders situation where your son also plays football. And he's really cool. See, that's a cool one. Like, you can do that too. Oh yeah, if you're Kirk Douglas, you got Michael Douglas. Yeah.

And you're happy about it. Yeah. I mean, his son, then DeKamp. Yeah, that's right. That was sad. That was sad. That was sad. But you actually met Donald Sutherland,

but we'll talk about that at the end. So in 1999, Paul Benaki and John DeKamp, they bring a civil trial against Larry King for $1 million. Paul Benaki goes on the stand and he gives a testimony that is so damning, so vivid, so real, and so believable that despite the fact that he'd been charged with perjury

talking about the exact same thing nine years earlier, a judge awarded him $1 million in civil case. So in held water somewhere, it's kind of like the same thing with O.J. Simpson. Yeah. And that's your judge, Dr. Evil. Hello, that's an Austin Powers reference. Heller.

I'm telling you, this Heller thing is what I'm doing. You've been saying this Heller thing often. I love it. Sure. I mean, it's your thing now. Judge Dr. Evil. Heller. Heller.

That is so a bad joke. It's kind of fun to say though. Oh yeah. Real good. Real good. You know, not all of them got off. You know, not all of them got kind of the happy ending that Benaki did.

Troy Bonner. In 2003. When the book came out. No, the book came out in 96. Yeah, but it was the new edition. A new edition came out in 2003 with a lot of updates to it. So he walked into a hospital in New Mexico

where all bad things happen. This is the perfect setting for something to happen. Oh, of course, yeah. He came in screaming, they're after me, they're after me because of this book. And he was holding the Franklin. Waving it around, yeah. Waving it around.

They sedated him. They calmed him down. When the nurses went in to check on him in the next morning, he was just sitting in a chair with blood pouring out of his head. Yeah, and he's dead. Not good. He's dead.

Yeah, just absolutely dead. Boom, boom, boom, got suicided. And as far as Larry King goes, I know all of you asking out there. We've been looking for him. We've been looking for him. And today, today, I found him. You found him, okay.

Sterling Virginia. It looks like, yes, apparently you found a Yelp review of his sales skills at a BMW dealership. He has been working at- Of course, he's a car salesman, of course. As far back as 2000, at least up until 2011, he worked at a BMW car dealership in Sterling, Virginia. He'd worked there five, six years.

Long time. I wanna see the people that he was like, well, now that this BMW, now you could rape about two, three kids in the backseat. Do you give him a two, three kids? Did I use to say that out loud? No, no, no, no. I mean, fit them in there.

Yeah, do you have children? That's what I was saying. Do you have children? You should bring them on by. Yeah, bring them on. We'll put them in the car together. I'll show you what I'm talking about. Not the rape thing.

That was an accident. So this is a man who brought in his Mini Cooper for maintenance. Of course, he was looking around maybe buying a BMW. He said, on one occasion, I had the unfortunate opportunity to have Mr. Larry King assist me. He was belittling and walked away from me mid-sentence.

He is flippant and cavalier in his dealings with customers. Oh, right. One star review. One star. One star. That is scathing. By the way, by the way, this is what happens when the dealership overall

is just two stars. This is a two star dealer. A two star BMW, two star dealership. They hired Larry King. Yeah, not a lot of background checks going on there. And this guy, this is what happens when, I'm sorry, man. It's like, you're an older man.

You're not going to get this special Larry King treatment. You're not going to get the red carpet treatment that you'd get if you were just a seven-year-old looking to buy a BMW. Because the main story about that is that he's got his own money. And that's so important in dating. You have to really, you can't always be pulling all the weight.

Yeah. This is a good job for a pedophile to have, though. No one 18 and under would go and buy a new car. So that's what happens. Switching on to BMW. No, yeah, that's it. There was a four dealership. There was a four dealership.

Yeah. And there's not a whole lot of families coming in to BMW dealership. So this is pretty, this is the end of our saga. And by the way, Sterling, Virginia, I mean, that's right there next to Washington DC. Oh yeah. So he's still there right along with all of his buddies.

He's still with them. He's having a great time. Yeah, still with them. So no one was punished. Nothing was fixed. Nope. All of the victims are trashed. Gary is dead.

Yep. John DeCamp is a screaming lunatic somewhere in a hotel six. Somewhere. So great. Yeah, I guess that's it then. Nothing worked that well. I really do want to thank everyone for going on this journey with us.

We've all learned a lot. I propose the idea of doing Satanism in the government did not realize the scope, but it's interesting what you discover. We've done this all the time with different types of research. The fucking rabbit hole goes nine miles deep. It shows you that there's a lot more to reality

than you think it is. There's a lot more to what goes on. There's a lot more than what's just in the fucking newspapers, y'all. You have to research it. But I'm also glad it's over. Yes, it's all done. This has taken a month of my life away from it.

And it's all done. And we'll move on. We're gonna get to some awesome, we have some great shows coming up. Oh, man. We've got a great big hitter coming up that's gonna knock your fucking slippers off. It's gonna be great.

We've got some ghosts coming. We've got some aliens coming. We've got a bunch of shit. I'm very excited. I want to say goodbye to V Kelly from Atlanta. I miss you. I miss Casper Kelly. People who listen to the show in Atlanta.

I miss Atlanta. And you had a wonder, and it's so nice to have you back. It's so good to be back. And you had a nice flight back. You got to- I sat next to Donald Sutherland. Mr. Donald's, and how was that?

He is sick. He's not doing well. What did he say about his son, Keifer? He was just like, he's like, my son, he brings home terrible women. And we talked about 45 minutes. We talked about God. We talked about, he hit it on the flight attendant with me.

You know, that was fun. That's cool. And we want to say thank you as well. What is it? Frank Mendoza. Thank you so much for the candy, dude. Candy, the t-shirt, some of the greatest stuff around.

And it's very, very nice. We've got some of the most beautiful fans in the world. I'm sorry we outraged you for missing a week, but we will do more. And we're gonna come out with a pair very, very soon. So yeah, we can all dress terribly together. Yes. And we'll have lots of extra, extra largesse.

Oh, that'll be the smallest size you can get. Oh, what am I gonna do? I'm sorry, Marcus. You're gonna have to wrap it around you like it's a diaper. That's right. Okay. All right. Yeah, Ben Kissel on Twitter.

I need to get 1,000. I need to get over 1,000. It'll happen for you. It'll happen. It's a good feeling, by the way. I know. I want the feeling. I want the feeling.

So much power. Good Lord. And Henry loves you. At Marcus Park. All right, well, Hail Satan. Hail Satan. I'll gain. Hail me.

And hail yourselves. And don't use peanut butter all over yourself. Yeah, absolutely.