Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 121: Remote Viewing

Episode Date: February 17, 2015

We explore the phenomenon of remote viewing, from the CIA program known as Project Stargate to how you can use it for fun and profit!

I just thought maybe it's just how deep the inside of my head is. Is that how we're going to start the show? I don't like it. I don't like a one-bit. That's Marcus Parks. I'm Ben Kissel and then we've got this fellow over here. My name's Carmine. I'm Ben's boss and I love it when Ben's late to work because that means he's no longer

my employee because I fired him for a couple of minutes and then he becomes my cladestine lover. What's wrong with you? It's disgusting. She's a wonderful woman. Let the puppet come over here. I want a smell. It's pee.

And then I want you to push it inside of me. That's enough. They don't listen, right? No. They can't possibly listen to this and still have you on the door, right? They can't know you fondle the dogs all day. I don't fondle the dogs. I've watched you with the dogs.

I cut all the dogs. You grab all the dog and you hold it up next to you. They're one pound each. I'm just saying you, you have, you are, it's, it's scary how much you control the actions of the dogs physically. They're very, they're very small dogs. There's no way around not, you have to control them. You sound like a Larry King.

Larry King, the pedophile or Larry King, the, I'm never talking about Larry King, the talk show. Oh, okay. From now on, every time we mention Larry King, it's about, no, no, I'll say old, old juice suspendees. Larry King. Yes. I see.

All right. So today we're going to talk about remote viewing and, and some other very, very fun things. You sound excited. I am excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited.

I'm excited. Coppel was talking about it on nightlines. Coppel. I certainly hope that no one uses remote viewing to look inside my underwear too. What's in there, Ted? Just tube underwear. You type a underwear, you can just stick your balls through. I like.

I like that. Coppel. Remote viewing. I was pretty good. I'm a really good Ted Coppel. I guess so. I mean, we don't have any. Yeah.

That's not a terrible Ted Coppel. I'm no Richard Little. Yeah. Well, yeah. Richard Little was very good. Very talented young gentleman. That's for sure. All right, Marcus.

Explain what this is. So we're going to, we're also going to be talking about astral projection, but that's going to be later on in the show, but we're going to start with remote viewing. Now remote viewing is the ability to see distant or hidden objects, events and location beyond the range of the physical eye. How I felt until after seeing under the skin last night and seeing Scar Joe's, they showed her bush. God.

It's the best. That's really good. Her bush is the best. How is the bush the best? Bushes are all the same. How can one bush be better than another bush? No, they're not. Some of them are core.

Some of them are fluffy. She's got a top nineer. A top nineer bush. What prompted her to show her bush? She's an alien. Oh, I see. No inhibitions. Oh, right.

No inhibitions whatsoever. She doesn't even know she has a body. Oh, that's my favorite way to meet a lady, a girl who doesn't even know she has a body. There's a surprising amount of nudity in those alien movies. Yes. That species movies to jack up on all the time. Love me some species. Natasha Hinstrid.

All right. So remote viewing. I did this. Yeah. Under the skin also. Very good movie. Very good movie. Highly recommended.

Go check it out. So for example, a remote viewer might be asked to a, describe a location on the other side of the world that he or she has never visited. You can't do that with just a postcard, right? You could. You can technically. But still, it's better to do it with your brain telescope. B, describe an event that happened long ago.

C, describe an object sealed in a container or locked room. All right. Or D, describe a person or activity all without being told anything about the target, not even a name or a designation. We'll see. What I found doing some of the YouTube research, this is your problem is that first you say YouTube research, YouTube research. And I also take some Umbridge with you, with you calling it research.

Umbridge. All right. Let's not get too technical over here. Mr. Umbridge. Heller. All right. Stop with that. I'm doing it.

I'm doing it. It's fine. I'm doing it. It's like check is me. Yeah, they just tend to draw a lot of pillars. They draw a lot of pillars and they draw a lot of walls and then it turns out that there was walls involved. We will get into the methodology of like how one remote views, but it's it's actually

very interesting because there's a lot of different theories as to why it even works. You know, the, you know, there's sort of a floofy do idea of like, you know, the terminal when you have tuning forks, the way they describe the universe is like the fact, like if we live in a multiverse, right, if we live in the idea that there's no such thing as time and we're all all information is present at once and all options are available once all future options, all past options, we're all, they're all just floating around in a goop. Right. Our brains are like giant antennas, which is true.

Like they can both receive and send down signals and the way of the, they say remote viewing works technically is this thing called the term I wrote down here. It's, hold on one second. Damn it. Damn it. Damn it. Oh, you definitely have to put on some weight, synergistic quantum entanglement was just this idea.

You couldn't remember that synergistic quantum entanglement because I was also, uh, yeah, I was, I was just, I was high. All right. Yeah. I could not remember the term. All right. So I had to write it down. Yeah.

So the idea is that honey, we are not getting married. We are becoming synergistically entangled meant to live together, but the idea is that like a tuning fork, if you have two tuning forks at the same pitch and you hit one of the, the one at the one end of the room on the other end of the room, the tuning fork will also vibrate. And the idea is that your brain can kind of stick its head into what they call lines of thought. Uh, and basically you, you, you pick it up.

And so you can, you can be in two places at once and you can shake a fork around. You can shake a fucking fork around. All right. And then there's also an idea that we're all one gigantic galactic entity, which is also an official like reason why it works. Yeah. Uh, and also that, you know, uh, ghosts are gossipers. I've heard that.

Yeah. Gossip ghosts. So the term remote viewing was coined in 1970 by American physicist Russell Targ and Harold Puthoff. This is why these guys become scientists. All right. You can't be a movie star with a name Russell Targ and there's Russell Targ on the red carpet with Audrey Hepburn.

He appears to be wearing pig pig skin and he's wearing, bring me Christina Hendrix. Oh, I will make wine sacks on my breasts. Not your typical Hollywood lady man, but we love him. So these guys, they were researched remote viewing for a 10 years. They used such tools as the magnetometer and the cork detector. Well, again, beginning tools. Yeah. This is the very beginning.

What are you going to do? Well, you used to think that, uh, people, uh, ran because they had jumping spirits in their knees. Yeah. I've heard that. It took a long time for us to figure out that it's just muscles. Yep. Muscles, bones, tissues, things like that.

Harold Puthoff, by the way, uh, I will say, oh, see that again. What's, what is his name? Harold Puthoff. Puthoff. Puthoff. Sounds like something you want to, you tell someone you want to get away from, you puthoff. Like you're the big faced man from, uh, under the skin and you're being very weird with people around you.

Do you just want to go to the grocery store and not get your fingers sucked by Scarlett Johans? I'm out of the loop on this under the skin. Good Lord. This seems like a saucy movie though. It's extremely saucy. Hmm. Hmm.

All right. So Harold Puthoff, by the way, he was an OT7 Scientologist. See, this is my problem with him. Yeah. This is a big problem. But they went through a lot. That was, this is the time, like, cause when was this like early mid 1960s? This was 70s.

70s. Yeah. They have this thing called Patysychology, which was the very beginnings of like paranormal research and there was a lot of stuff like that going on with Scientology with stress reading and all the different people taking infrared photo and photography of each other. So it was kind of a revamp of what happened in like the 1890s with the spiritualistic movement. Of course.

He actually put off, he cites Madame Blavatsky and her followers. Everyone's, yeah, Madame Blavatsky, she was the biggest spiritualist of the time. Hitler was her biggest fan. Yeah, because she didn't believe we were waiting on the seventh race to come save us and seventh race was beautifully white and they were coming from space and so, yes, it's always that. It's always that. Space white.

It's like really, Madame Blavatsky is so interesting as you read it and you read it and then eventually it's like, oh, she just hates brown people. Yeah, that happens a lot. Yeah. But this was, I mean, this is the glory days of Scientology. This was the fun 70s. Oh, yeah. They were just having a good time.

People weren't wearing shirts. Everybody was talking about how stressed they are. It was different back then. It was different. San Fernando. Yes. San Fernando. Jim's.

That's all. All I can think about is Jim's. Yeah. Well, I think there was a lot of gems around naked ladies. Oh, yeah. Oh, indeed. So put off. He thought that Madame Blavatsky and her followers were able to actually remote view

the inner structure of atoms, cool, which goes into the theory that all is one. We are all one giant membrane. So it does follow that you could go small enough to see tiny, tiny little things in the atoms like in the magic school bus or in inner space. I love that. I love that, yeah, great, great Martin Short movie. They show his bush. Yeah.

Love that in the inner space. Love that they do that. Martin Short is one of the best bushes I've ever seen. Nothing is higher on my bucket list than seeing the curly browns of Martin Short. As a matter, I might just remote view that right now. Lung, hairy, Martin Short, bush. You know what I've been watching a lot of is that Jiminy Glick. Oh, yeah.

It's very funny. Let's continue. Yeah. So other research was done by a group called the Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research Group or PAIR. Now let's just imagine what the body types are of the people that have joined up this society. They are, you know, maybe a little bottom heavy and they all had a secret little giggle.

It was like, oh, this is my microscope stool. And I'll tell you, they can't keep their glasses from breaking. Isn't that the thing with these kinds of people? Always tape on the glasses. My glasses. My glasses. Let's not make fun of these people. These people are very important to the paranormal studies world.

They're very smart people. Well, that was founded in 1979 and they applied modern engineering science techniques to the study of Psy. Look, it's a wheel. This is a bully. Very cool. They concluded that it is possible to obtain information by means that cannot be explained by known psychic phenomena.

And others have also found that remote viewing is affected by geomagnetic activity. So the higher the geomagnetic activity before the viewing test, the less successful the results. Very interesting. They say the same thing what happens all around the country of these random number generators going on that also seem to sync up during gigantic, either natural disasters or political like terrorist act, like weird, like gigantic catastrophes. These random number machines seem to also kind of jam at the same time, which causes

that they're, you know, they use a lot of random number generators for like for remote viewing to see if you can manipulate the numbers. Change the numbers. That was another thing that I learned a lot of people just trying to get into this game for the lottery. Yeah. Of course they do. A lot of people.

But the way they do it's really interesting. I was reading what they do with that is because it doesn't really work with numbers. Well, we'll find out when we get deeper into this, that involves this concept of gestalt, which is the idea of a feeling of a moment. That's how you jump into the remote like, but you basically you get a coordinate and then you have to imagine how the moment feels, how the area feels to you emotionally and physically. So what they do for the stock market in order to manipulate it, or guess when things are

going to rise and fall, is that they take pictures and they memorize the pictures and they associate them with certain stock market accounts. And then what they do is basically using the imagery of the picture, when the picture pops up, they know when the stock's going to raise or lower by attaching it to certain numbers. Well, I don't even know how we had a financial collapse with solid science like that. You would think we would still be living in the 80s, the roaring 1980s. Well, another one of the big researchers that came on the scene this time that became one

of the biggest practicing remote viewers was a man named Ingo Swan. I love this man. Now do we do we know that that's his real name? I hope you made it. Do we know that any of these names of these people's real names? Russell Targ is a name that was unfortunately given to a man. Honey, you got yourself a Targ baby. What did you say about my baby?

No, his last name is Targ. Hi, I am. This is Regunga Targ, and this is my husband, Boyk Targ. Boyk Targ was a nice guy, though, one of the best grocery baggers you can ever see. Honey, don't forget the Targs are coming over for dinner tonight. Oh my God. Oh, you didn't even tell me to buy the slop when I went to the supermarket. Let me go put the plastic sheeting on the new recliner.

You know quite a bit about Ingo Targ, Ingo Swann, Ingo Swann was the guy who basically helped develop what we now officially know as remote viewing. He helped train members of the CIA and our military, but this is this is what I know about him. And then where he started from was in the 1950s. He was a born clairvoyant when he says he was. And also like if you watch any interviews with him, I'll put him up on the Facebook page. It's incredible that he got anywhere near the army.

He's like the fans. He looks like a Broadway choreographer. He's like, oh, you boys, they're messes. Like literally like he was doing this. He showed up with the microphone and he's just like, you mean he didn't have a microphone set up for me before? Why didn't you do it before, Andrea, you know, but he's very sweet. He's very.

Yeah, seems like a nice guy. But they were talking about how like where he kind of started was that he grew up in the 19, like in the 1960s, he became that he joined this pathophysical group in New York City, pathophysical pathophysical, which is the, the original version of like the paranormal studies movement. That was when it was all stuff like the beginnings of Scientology was all gems and people like strapping. I don't know what to their heads, you know, strapping a little bit for all their heads

going like, I could see colors on my feet. I mean, what are you even talking about, Richard? And he's like, I left Leslie to come to New York. I got to find something to do. So they did, I mean, Scientology was just a nice way for nerds to get laid. It was great way for nerds to get laid. I like it so much better than the fucking comic book movement. Oh, sure.

Nerdist like Chris Hardwick wearing suits and that's cool to be nerd now. It was better before when everyone had long bushes. That's right. So but Ingo Swan basically discovered he could do remote viewing on his own. And I forget how it actually ended up working him towards working to the CIA. I couldn't, it seemed like he, he said it just kind of randomly happened. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, he was doing research and out of body experiences for the American Society of Physical Research in the 60s and 70s. This is one of those weird, like super liberal 60s college organizations that they, because the time because it was like the college boom too. So all this money was coming in from the government for to use these like college research facilities, kind of like how Ghostbusters starts. Yeah. Yeah.

It's a lot about like, I mean, a lot of this stuff is pretty similar to Ghostbusters. And that was pretty great. Yeah. Russell Targ is very similar hair to Mr. Ramis. Well, it's out there. Yeah. Leave me alone. I mean, none of these names are any more ridiculous than Egon Spangler.

No, exactly. That's why the Ghostbusters nailed it. Yeah. That's perfect. There's also other things going on at this time, like the human movement. Yes. What was that movement all about? It's exactly what it sounds like.

No one was wearing deodorant. That was it. That's one of that. It was just, yeah, no one was wearing deodorant. The human movement. It was a heck of a time to get shoes on a person. Yeah. What do we got to do to join this human movement?

Oh, turn. I already did, huh? Isn't that wild? This whole time I've been a part of it. So don't shave anything. So just stop taking care of myself, huh? Oh, wow. So Ingo, he was doing some really interesting experiments where he was remote viewing weather,

where he would do these experiments where he would remote view like the weather in Cincinnati and say like today. It's going to rain in Cincinnati. Yeah. He just became like what my dad does every day sitting on the fucking porch. And he's like, it's California, but it's hot, huh? Yeah. Am I right?

Yeah. Yeah. Yes, it is dead. And he would, you know, remote view the weather. And then they'd call up Cincinnati and be like, hey, what's the weather like? And then they're like, it's cloudy. It sucks. Knew it.

Nailed it. And yeah. And I forget exactly how he became involved in it as well, but he became the lead remote viewer for the best CIA program that has ever existed, Project Star Gay. Yeah, Project Star Gay is pretty great. No, no, no, no, no. Real. It's pretty amazing.

And so this is what I like about this program is that what it was was it's the CIA getting groovy. Yeah. This is what we could call the CIA's groovy period because I mean the Project Stargate, it was also known as Project Sunstreak, Project Center Lane. That's beautiful. I feel like a couple of agents got into the MK Ultra Drugs. Oh yeah.

Totally side project into this. Hey man, you know what we could do, man? It's like, you know what I want to see? I want to see George Bush just fucking on the way out. Yep. Yeah, dude. Let's do it. Pretty good.

I know this dude named Ingo. Ingo? No shit. That's a name? It is not a name. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. It just said his name out loud and we created it.

But what Ingo did was Ingo created the organized methodology for remote viewing. Yeah. In 1972, the CIA launched a classified project because of course it's classified. They don't want anyone to know about this. I mean usually they don't want things to, the American people to know about things because we're killing innocent people in Cambodia or something. But in this situation, they're just like, they're all going to laugh at you. Yeah.

If the American people find out about this, they're all going to make fun of you. They're just doing to themselves what they do to people who believe in aliens. Yeah. They make themselves look very silly because the thing is because they got word that the Russians were doing it. Yeah. They got word that the Russians and the Chinese were using these sorts of methods. And in fact, Congressman Charlie Rose said-

I bet they were just making a leak in those things just to see if the U.S. would do it. Absolutely. No, no, no. They say that it was probably a disinformation thing. That's so funny. Yeah, Congressman Charlie Rose said, some of the intelligence people I've talked to know that remote viewing works, although they still block further research on it since they claim it is not yet as good as satellite photography.

But it seems to me- Not yet. But it seems to me that it would be a hell of a cheap radar system. And if the Russians have it and we don't, we're in serious trouble. So in other words, it's the psychic gap. The psychic gap. And the Russians, I would give the edge to the Russians. They got that sort of sloped back of the head.

They kind of satellite looking heads. Do they? Yeah. I think Russians are beautiful except for the men who look like walking bears. That's who I'm talking about. Not the gorgeous women, but they're beaten down so quick in life that they're not. It doesn't even matter. I find this to be very interesting.

I do think that it is true. They talk about, when they say the remote viewing does work, but it's like, what it is, the way they say remote viewing works is if you create up to 10% more likelihood that they know this information or not. Yeah. So it's not much. It's 5% to 10%, but they say that is statistically good. Yes, because that puts it to like 51%.

Yeah. That like puts it over the lip of not knowing anything that you're fucking talking about. You could say you sort of know something. Well, let's go through some of the players in Project Stargate. Yes. First, we've got Major General Albert Stubblebine. He's not even real anymore. I can't deal with that.

It's like, what's his name? It's like David Copperfield. Yeah. Stubblebine. He was a key sponsor at the research internally at Fort Mead. He required that all of his battalion commanders learn how to bin spoons. Yeah. And he himself attempted several psychic feats, even attempting to walk through walls.

Can you imagine working for this man who is constantly pissed off? Yeah. You know, he's just walking around like, because it sounds like he's like Colonel Clink. He sounds like he's from a television show. Him just like walking around being like, I can do it. I will do it. I'm like him just like walking through walls. It's gonna be like, Henderson, get in here.

These walls are too thick. Thin up the walls. Thin up the walls, Henderson. I mean, that would just be tough. He must be very angry in the lunch room. Oh, yeah. All those straight spoons, straight forks. Him trying to bring the food to his face and just being like, aren't you hungry, Mr.

Stubblebine? He's like, don't remind me, damn it. Bring it to me. Come to me. Come to me. Come to me. Come to me. Come to me.

Come to me. Come to me. Come to me. So after some controversy involving these experiments and also- It's hard to have the numbers meeting. Yeah, it's tough. And alleged security violations from unclear civilian psychics working in the sensitive compartmented information facilities.

Stubblebine was placed on retirement. Was placed on retirement. That is the most gentle way of saying he died of an accidental car accident, like in the middle of an empty road out in the middle of Nebraska. I don't know if he had any information to be done away with. Yeah. I think they let him live. I think Stubblebine made it.

Yeah. Very angry, though. He's the first person to not stumble his way to the top. Next guy up is Pat Price. There we go. Nice normal. Pat Price. That's a good network.

It's a game show host name. Yeah. That's right. He worked with maps and photographs provided to him by the CIA, and he claimed to be able to retrieve information from facilities behind Soviet lines. Possibly he has the most famous example of remote viewing in that he was able to remote view and sketch a crane at a Soviet military site. He called it the big crane, but what it turned out to be was a gigantic experimental submarine.

What he envisioned was this construction unit that was basically building the submarine. It's interesting. That story is interesting. This is where there was someone brought it up on the Facebook page about this idea of being anti-spiritual or theological, but I honestly think that this is where I see spiritualism, where it's just like your will can reach out and manifest itself and can manipulate your environment. I put you at a crownier more than anything.

Yes. I don't know. I'm about to put him into early retirement. He is four seconds away from trying to get that coffee to his mouth without touching it. I really do believe it, though. I know. I know it. And Price, he also believed that aliens had established four underground bases on Earth,

and he often reported on these locations to Dr. Puthoff, and he was also- These aliens won't respect me. They say it's because of my name. And he was also Ingo Swan's biggest competitor. Yeah. And that's again where the bullshit comes in. They literally started competing with each other as to who was the most psychic. Yeah.

And it's a very tough thing to prove. Yeah, because technically, no one's got any proof. So the US intelligence, during the Cold War, they had the most up-to-date sonar and most up-to-date photographs coming from satellites, and then just barnapkins. Is that what happens? Don't put your coffee on that. That's evidence. That's a huge amount of information there.

Next. Next guy is Joseph McMonigle. It's Joseph McMonigle. It just is. They're not the worst Irish name of all time. I mean, do they have bones? Yeah. Do these people have bones?

The problem is, though, any name that will lead you to get the nickname Joe McMough is, like, the word- What's your actual name? Nick. Not to be honest. So he was also a very early psychic viewer. He said he first used his psychic abilities and his teens for his own protection while hitchhiking.

And he enlisted to get away from his alcoholic family. And he became an experimental remote viewer in Army Intelligence. In 1984, he was awarded a Legit of Merit for determining 150 essential elements of information and producing crucial and vital intelligence unavailable from any other source. Because that's what the one thing they say. It's really about its quantity over quality. It's the idea is if you can get any details at all remotely viewing, then that's in the wind column.

Yeah. I mean, it's what Sylvia Brown does. Sylvia Brown, though. But to me, there's also, with psychic readers, with reading someone's past or reading someone's future, I think there's a lot more to the Anton Levese School of Carnival Tricks and how it's actually, but it's actually not, that doesn't make it shallow. That actually the reading of someone is an important skill in determining their future. Because you can tell a lot about how somebody holds themselves.

Like if you know them really well, and then it's also what we hear about, which we're going to hear about in another version of remote viewing, is that sometimes you can tell someone a really good future and that will help them build towards a better future. Or make them extremely lazy because they think it's in the bag. Well, either way, they're fucked. Yeah. And then finally, there was Ed Dames. He was one of the first five Army students trained by Ingo Swan.

He's originally changed it from the name Ed Ladies, which they felt was a little too feminine. Yeah. And he was a monitor, which a monitor. Eventually he became a monitor and he was the guy that controlled the other remote viewing students, told them where to go, what to do. Yep, you got it. Yep, you got it. Oh, you need a massage?

Want some water? I just put it in my mouth. I spit it in your mouth. And he was known as the most extreme of all remote viewings because his target sessions were Atlantis and Mars. Also UFOs and aliens. Ingo Swan said during those experiments they did see water on Mars. The symbology of water on Mars.

And then he said that that was backed up by the recent research. Yeah, we found it. Very true. And not coincidentally, Mr. Ed Dames has been a guest on Coast to Coast more than 30 times. Oh, they're all pretty available to Coast to Coast. I think so. Coast to Coast just needs to pick up the phone and get them. They're looking to talk, that's for sure.

So there's just this whole wing at this military base just full of people doing remote viewing and things like that. It's incredible. Yeah, there was at the most there were, I think, 22 remote viewers working for the Army at this one base. It's wonderful. What else like doing like boot camp and like other stupid. Well, yeah, they're stupid.

They are stupid. You got to get to the good side army. That's what I'm always talking about. It's like maybe I'll volunteer for the army, but I only want to be in like good morning Vietnam army. Of course. Yeah. Navy army.

Yeah. I was watching this. Ken. What was it? Ken Burns documentary. There's some documentary about Vietnam. And I was like, this is not right. I saw it.

Yeah. You know, it's fucking good times. Laughs. No. It was at World War II. Unless you're my dad. What's the, what's the one you referenced? Mikhail's Navy.

Is that World War II? No, that was during their early nineties. No, that Mikhail's Navy. Which one am I thinking of? What's the Vietnam one? Good morning Vietnam. Good morning Vietnam. Yeah.

Right. For good. Jesus. No, there's a show. The Vietnam show. There's no, you're thinking of Mash and that was the Korean War. Whatever. That's what my grandfather fought.

My grandfather fought in the Korean War. The good one, not your evil one. No. It was in a different war. Scratch it. Delete it all. Jesus Christ. I'm just trying to find the goddamn name of the show.

So this program was declassified in 1995. So therefore we have the training manual that was written by Mr. Ingo Swann. Now it's really cool. So what you're going to find out here is that like what Ingo Swann is before this like truly it was just people who would get drunk at a party and then they do the old Johnny Carson game of putting the thing in an envelope. Then you try to guess what's the envelope. It was a way to impress women.

But what he did was create an organized system of methods for the CIA. Yeah. And it's very boring. Yes. It's very long. It is very thick. It was long. Yeah.

I try to read as much of it as I can. But what we learned here is that there's a system. Yeah. There's a system. There were six stages that they used in the room of viewing. They had to sit in a bareback chair with a plain desk with a pad of paper in front of them and a pencil. In front of them was the monitor.

And that was it. They had a light with a dimmer. And that's the only thing they could do. Because the idea is that as they go deeper in their trance they dimmer the thing. And also remember these people are not in trance. No. This is not trance. This is literally just sitting and just going like grape juice, grape juice, grapes, grapes.

Is it grapes? Is it grapes? Grapes. Is it grapes? Is it grapes? Is it grapes? Is it purple? Is it red?

Is it red? Purple red? Purple red? Purple red? Is it Clifford the Big Red Dog? That's right. That's right. So stage one, the stage one sites were, is it an island?

Are they in the mountains? Is it a desert? In a way they do this. Very broad. What they do is they give them a set of coordinates and then they say, do you draw your first impressions or what they call the, was the ideologies, ideologies. And what you do is you basically draw squiggles on a piece of paper and then they tell you whether or not that's oceans or mountains.

Stage two, that would be sites of quality sensory value. So you have the tactile touch, taste, sound, color, odor, things like that. Stage three, that significant dimensional characteristics, buildings, bridges, airfields, Ben, don't rub your face like that. Why? I have sleep in my eyes. I didn't have any coffee this morning. Stage four is a qualitative mental percept such as the technical area, military feeling,

research. She's hungry. What are we saying? I'm just hungry. Stage five is when the trainee learns to quote unquote, interrogate qualitative mental percepts in an attempt to produce analytical target descriptions such as aircraft tracking radar, biomedical research facilities, a tank production plan, getting real specific with it.

And then stage six involves the trainee in direct three dimensional assessment and modeling of the site and or the relationship of site elements to one another, i.e. airplanes inside one of three camouflage hangers or military compound. There are 20 pages of this, 20 pages of justice. No, because I tried to get into it myself and I was just like, oh, I can't boil this down. No, the manual is 199 pages long. You got to read it.

Yeah. Because it's government writing, especially when they write the whole thing at the top of being like, there is a matrix of unconscious information. It's incredible. This is the CIA manual. Yeah. This is an actual, but it's kind of like in Beetlejuice, the fucking handbook for the recently deceased, like it's the secrets of the universe, but it's mind numbingly

boring. The government's main job is to take all wildly interesting things and make them real fucking boring. Yeah. I think that's about right. So let's kind of go through a bit of the, and the manual also has a kind of the process that they go through. So let's go through a bit of that.

So stage one, it says, okay, rising angles across down solid. Sure. Stage two. This is an example of what someone would see. Yeah. This is just an example of the things that they would see. Stage two, rough, smooth, gritty texture, gray, white, red, blue, yellow, orange, clean taste, mixture of smells, warm, bright, noisy, Ben's knees, that could be.

Yeah. So far, so good. Tall, rounded, wide, long, open. Oh, no. This is when they take a break because they have to take a break because there is a very high instance of burnout in these guys. Yes. They say, was it the, the, the training burnout?

Yeah. And then they also say, you cannot be hungry that hunger is the worst enemy to remote viewing. I did not know that. So we're good. Yeah. We're fine. All right.

And so, uh, the stage three is when they start doing the sketches and they start trying to expand a little bit. Stage four, they start bringing it down, rough, smooth, manmade, high, tall, wide, then there's a bit of a break. And in this one, the, uh, trainee said sandwiches, coffee, and the trainee said, this is neat. Continuing, doors, windows, colorful, parapets, building, sketching some more, foreign feeling, people, somber, serious, devoted, enthusiastic, break. Okay.

That's a castle in a city. Is that a castle in a city? That's a castle in a city. That's a castle in a city. That's a castle in a city. That's through the sketch. That's, they said that's a castle in a city. I'm not hungry, but I eat a Snickers.

Stage five, religious objects, emanations, robes, candles, incense, religious attributes, emanations. I'm getting molested. I'm getting molested. Quiet, dimly lit, echoing, large, religious subjects, emanations. Very interesting. Worship. Reverence.

Is it like this? I wish it was like this. I think it is like this. I wish you could see. I just want to see. I just want to hear this guy talking to a, a war vet. I just wanted to VFW. She'd be like, how was your time in the military?

I lost two legs and I only have one hand. My buddy Manhattan got his feet blown off by a turret weapon. How about you? I ate sandwiches and I saw things in my brain. All right. Worship. Reverence. Respect.

Harmonious. Chanting. Religious topics. Emanations. Mass. Catholic. Priest. Communion.

Assembly. Religious decorations. Singing. Reverence. Scriptures. Clergy. I mean, what place doesn't have a Catholic church? I mean, he's just saying that they chose a specific site.

Yeah. Well, I mean, they're narrowing it down. They're narrowing it down. Yeah, they're narrowing it down. If you're going to say like, I'm going to say, yeah, there's a Catholic church in Russia. We don't know it's a church yet. Oh, I see. And so now this is when the matrix has started to get filled in by the, by the monitor while

the viewer is still constructing the model. So the, uh, the matrix is being filled out as to what this could possibly be, where it could possibly be. They're starting to narrow it down. So stage six, church, hand-hewn stones, gray, rough, very large, very old, war-damaged, monument, dreary climate, international feeling. You can say anything, you can say anything you like. Bugaboo.

I see bugaboo. Yeah, that's not a word. The color orange. Okay, that's right. I think I see leather. The smell of leather. Red leather. I got shoes on.

Yes, you do. Yes. Rubble, separate structure, tall, straight, rectangular, high, wide. This is slam poetry. Yeah, this is, it's good though. Modern, same purpose as other structure, church. New church and old church are the same, cosmopolitan atmosphere, war atrocities. And then the remote viewing comes to an end.

That's it. That's it. That's all the information. What they, what the viewer has summarized is that the site is composed of two churches. One church, which is old and made of hand-hewn stones, has been damaged by war. There's a lot of rubble around it. The new church is very modern in design. Both are located in an area with a cosmopolitan atmosphere and an international flavor.

The older church has been left as a monument to remind the people of the, of today, of the war atrocities of the past, while the new church now serves the same purpose as the older church did at one time, a house of worship. What is the site? Berlin. England. London. It actually got it.

Whoa. You're the psychic. Oh yeah. Your psychic. I mean, it's also, you remember your grandfather's memories of when they did their blockality. Yeah. It's the Kaiser Wilhelm church side by side with the older Kaiser Wilhelm church in Berlin, Germany.

Yep. That's incredible. I nailed it. Wow. That's very impressive. That's very good, Ben. So after this, the Stargate project, of course we said that the chances of them getting something to write were between five and 15%, which, yeah, pretty good for, for nothing.

You're like, from nothing, it's pretty good from literally nothing. Unfortunately, most of the information was very unclear and what type of tacos the Russians were eating and like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so in 1995, the CIA hired the American Institute for Research to perform a retrospective evaluation of the results of the Stargate project. This study was done by Ray Hyman and Jessica Utz. Poor Jessica Utz because you know that it was Butz before they got to LSI. Or nuts.

Yeah. Oh, Mr. Hyman. Mr. Hyman. That's just, you can't even write up. Yeah. Yeah. Boys, look away. I'm in an Utz.

They're coming through. Boys, look away. I can't be asleep when they're here. Well, Utz, she was on the side of the psychic viewers. She said that the five to 15% or boosting the chance of some sort of positive effect of an operation that was five to 15%, she said it was statistically significant. But Hyman argued that Utz's conclusion that ESP have been proven to exist is premature to say the least.

It's definitely premature to be able to be able to say the absolute least. This whole system is broken. Mr. Hyman's all blocked up. He said, you know what, I will never believe a single word that his sister had to say that I don't believe a single word that he's saying. I didn't understand a goddamn word Mr. Hyman said. He said that the findings had yet to be replicated independently and that more investigation would be necessary to, quote, legitimately claim the existence of paranormal functioning.

Yes, absolutely. Yeah. So Hyman's always getting into the way, you know, but English one even said that when he was saying that when they were working, he says like, he's like, we never knew whether they were going to keep us open or not. But every week we'd get a check. That's how we knew we must have been doing something right. 1995, this was going on until, huh?

Yeah. Until 1995. Unbelievable. And so based on both of their studies, the CIA terminated the $20 million dollar project in 1995. Quite a bit of cash. Quite a bit of cash. I just feel like they could have underbid it a little bit in order to have kept the

program going. Yeah. They were in 1995, there were still three full-time psychics that were working on a $500,000 a year budget. Can you imagine that being your job? That'd be so great. You're a full-time psychic? Perfect.

And one of those was just using tarot cards all the time. That's great. Interesting. But I really believe in tarot cards as well. Yeah. And some people still use remote viewing to this day. It said that there was one of the guys that, he wrote a book on the Green River Killer, I think, he's really into remote viewing.

He said that he found, or he saw the location of one of Ted Bundy's victims. And he called the police and told them, hey, check out there, like there's, and they never checked, a year later, they found the girl at the exact same site. And he said that the sheriff called them up and said, you know what, you were right. If you could figure out exactly where you said you were. I truly believe you could figure out how to break down the wall between your, our brains, otherwise known as an antenna, and the matrix, if you want to put it, the grid of information. There's a lot you can do.

I mean, I think you just play the odds though. Partially. You just know where Ted Bundy tended to kill and strangle women and you're like, there's a place that would be perfect for him. That's simple psychic ability. Yeah. But there's also, so that's just the control, there's, there's many other different types of remote viewing as well, this free form, which is, again, we were saying, just sitting

around. That's for the wild kids. That's for the wild kids. Then there's this guy, Dr. Simeon Hine, that's a good one, Simeon is a cool name. I would follow with Simeon. He's been working on this thing called human fusion. He was a student of Ingo Swan. He's a new, he's a new dude.

But basically what his idea is that like, he, he is proponent, listen to him on coast to coast and he's a proponent of the idea of remote viewing for self-help purposes, which of course people are into, you know, like they want that, but it's the idea is that you use remote viewing on your own life and the way they, the way he put it, he brought up the idea of, you know, that we're, we're in a, the time is, is, is not linear. That we're all time is happening now. You can plug into anything and that remote viewing is much easier if you're using yourself. And basically using your imagination, that's where he was like, he was against Ingo Swan's

idea because Ingo Swan was like, take all imagination out of it. It's just first response, first thing that comes to your brain. But he was saying imaginations and he truly believes this, that every single thing that you imagine is just an alternative reality. It's just that you have now sparked a new sliding doors. You got Gwyneth Paltrow on a date with you, new reality. And so, but he basically, he says that because oftentimes in Olympic training, they use these visual visualization techniques.

And this is what he says. It's the same thing, what they do with controlled remote viewing, but it's much more relaxed, which is the idea is that you imagine a feeling and like, and the way he did it for self-help purposes is that like, if you want to be good at something, let's say you just started using the, playing the piano and you're like, man, I just want to groundhog day myself and to be in grade at the piano, you know, just go like, bling, bling, bling and be done. And he's like, well, what you do is you start visualizing the feeling of being really great at the piano because these emotions are what kind of poke through time.

And then you go and you put on a performance at the Apollo and you get boot off stage because you actually suck at the piano. But you suck at the piano. Yeah, but you're like, I just felt like I was ready. But you felt like you rocked. Yeah. And sometimes that's all that matters. Yeah, that's true.

Yeah, but that's what he says. So human fusion, it's the idea that basically you go to meet, future you and you use visual visualization techniques. And it's always, it's about gestalt, which is like what Matthew McConaughey was talking about in his Oscar speech when he said his hero was me 10 years, but honestly, yes, that is, that is his remote, that is remote viewing. Yeah. And I really do.

I believe in visualization. I believe in the power of will itself, you know, and you could take from the universe, which you need from the universe. Oh, totally. Yeah. You know, as long as you're ruthless. Well, you don't have to be ruthless. You could be kind and loving too.

Well, you can be kind and loving and use remote viewing in a way that, you know, it may seem sinister at first, but in the end, it's good for everybody. It's good for everybody because you, sir, I'm talking to you. Me? No. You. Me? No.

The listener. Oh. Yes. You. You. I'm talking to you to tell you that you can use remote viewing to get girl. Yeah. No, you cannot use this for men.

You can't get a guy using this. I will say to girls, if you want to get a man, just, just tell him you won't, you won't it. And he's going to say yes, or he's going to be like, oh, my knees hurt because I've been beaten. I've been beaten in the street. I can't. I can't be with you tonight.

I mean, all our female viewers are beautiful young ladies. Absolutely. They're fine. Yeah. You don't need remote viewing. No. Absolutely not. This is the article that I found on the internet.

Oh. On the internet. So it's real. Yes. Absolutely real. Here's what it says. You might think of this as remote viewing seduction, simply because this technique is more geared towards impacting the consciousness of other people, realize that the only thing standing

between you and a happy relationship with a girl of your dreams is the way in which that girl perceives you. But that is true. It's true, though. You can change her perception of you. You can change your relationship. A big thing that helps with that is wads of cash. Laundry.

Do laundry. Do your laundry. Washing yourself. Yes. A lot of things. I keep hearing the term. People say it's very important to have good shoes. Nice shoes.

I keep hearing that, too. It is. Remote viewing. No. No. It's good to have a specific girl picked out because you will need to have an image to lock onto. Yeah, it can't just be any fucking hag that you're just dragging from the bar like some

kind of caveman. Right. That's illegal. I would never do that. I would never do that. Now, the next step is a bit hard to articulate, but basically you need to lock onto the way that you want to feel when you're around her, the way you want her to perceive you, and you need to project this feeling at her.

And that also does not involve piercing stairs. No. Imagine that you've known each other for a long time and you're just leaving a restaurant together. That is the funnest way to be in a relationship. Or take her to an upscale restaurant. No. No.

Imagine it first. Imagine it. You need to get the funds for that first. Oh, I see. I see. It's late, so not many other people are out, and there's a slow song playing outside as you walk down the sidewalk caught in the moment. She grabs you and pulls you into the shadow of the nearest building where you passionately

start makin' out. Now, I will say this could lead you to a crippling depression. Oh, violent depression or masturbation. Yes, bask in this feeling while you're there with your headphones on, listen into the song, and hold on to it for as long as you can. The power of theta, that's the dream power, by the way, the brainwaves power. The power of theta is that you can directly affect the minds of the other people around you at a fundamental level.

So when you feel this about her, she will simultaneously feel it about you guaranteed. She might walk by you, though. She may not pay a word one of attention to you. No idea, because you didn't articulate any of your feelings to her. But guess what? Because you imagined it, it happened already. In an alternate universe. In your brain.

Yes. In an alternate universe. But they're not the one that you live in, the one that you feel is. You cannot enjoy it whatsoever. No, no, no. By the way, this is especially powerful when she's asleep. So the next time you meet, especially if you do this same technique time after time again and again and again and again, you will notice that her attitude towards you has changed.

Maybe soon, it's likely that you both will act out the exact same scenario you envision in your mind. I would say that's true if you envision her running away from you. Just terrified. Well, the big thing is at some point you got to ask her to the dinner. Yeah, you have to. You have to open your mouth and ask her. And then don't be like, I've been thinking about, what would it be like if we went,

you pulled me in a dark building and you made out with me. But just so you know, this is literally the blueprint for getting any girl you would ever want. Enjoy and wield your powers wise. Honestly, though, but if you do, if you do have, you want to learn something about enchanting people and stuff, read the book, The Satanic Witch by Anton LeVe, it is a way it takes kind of the floofy do out of it. It uses what he called, what he even calls carnival tricks and to basically how to entrant

someone. But it's mostly how to get what you want out of somebody, but it can lead to fruitful relationships. You could also read the book, How to Win Friends and Influence People. Yes. You know, but that's a dumb one. No, the Anton LeVe was a lot more sexy. It is.

Yeah. I know it's a, the one thing about that book he never talks about, become a cult leader. Become a cult leader. That's what you do. Yeah. Then you get whoever you want. It's pretty sweet. Yeah.

I would love to be a cult leader. Well, you have, there's a lot of paperwork though. I don't know if you're going to be able to deal with all the logistical sides of being the legal worker, renting the space, doing all that stuff. I don't know. I'm not a promoter. Yeah. You don't have to get a co-signer.

I don't think, yeah, your credit's not good enough. I got your credit. Really? 57 credit score. Thank you. Thank you. Very good. Very successful.

And you use remote viewing to get that, didn't you? I did. And I also paid your bills. That's important. That is a big one. Big one. I keep trying to use my brain to fix my credit score. How's it going?

Not well. Staying down. Staying down. Not well. That's not bad. I have before. That's good. Yeah.

Yeah. All right. That's remote viewing. Very educational stuff. We'll get into astral projecting another time. We'll get into that another time because there's so much more on that because we can't just skim over the skin hags. I don't even.

I don't even start. All right. That's Marcus and Henry. And I am Ben. And that's Henry loves you. And that's Marcus Parks on Twitter. And I'm Ben Kizzle on Twitter. And what's that Marcus?

Oh, and don't forget the live show is this Saturday night, April 26th at 10 p.m. at the Greek. Get your ass there. Get your ass there. Get your ass there. To hug us. If you wanna dance with us. If you wanna smile with us.

It's gonna be an amazing time. And Henry, this will be your first live show back in two months. I'm back. So it's gonna be all three of us on stage. I'm back. And I'm taking back control. Well, I don't. I don't.

I have no idea. But that's fine. Um, yeah. So we'll see you guys on Saturday. It'll be a great time. Hail Satan. I'll gain. Hail me.

Hail yourselves, everybody. Ema gotele. Ema gotele.