Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 145: Listnerpasta II: Brain Worms

Episode Date: February 17, 2015

It's time for our annual Listenerpasta episode with stories from you, the listener! This year we've got aliens abduction, blood puke, ghost stories from Afghanistan, and a childhood friend of spree killer Seung Cho.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last talk. On the left. That's when the cannibalism started. What was that? How did you know? I've been around this old spinning globe. You've seen it all.

Alright, so this is listener pasta, is that the deal? Yeah, yeah. It's only all we've been talking about and sending emails about it for the last fucking week. No, I'm sorry. Alright, so I'm just doing like the welcome to the show thing. Yeah! Welcome to the show! That's Marcus, I'm Ben, and then we go to Henry and he does a character here.

I am Concerned Citizen Henry Zabrowski in the Creek and a Cave studio for the first time, and I have to say this listener pasta episode is also an intervention, Ben. You are, I'm gonna say visibly drunk at noon on a Sunday. I haven't drunk all day. I say you have like wavy lines coming off of you and you literally hiccup and a bubble came out of your mouth. And I know that that is, that's a problem. Alright. You have a problem, you must acknowledge, you have to acknowledge the problem for there to be one.

That's why I don't acknowledge it. It's the perfect way to avoid a problem. Ooh, yeah, so now we are on to week three of our Halloween celebration. Oh my God, I'm so close. Oh my God, I've got a hard one. Don't have one, don't have one right now. I'm having one. That's fine, I'm ready for Halloween.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we all are. And I also want to put this out there to Los Angeles inhabitants. What is the best horror show or like Halloween event that you like sent it to me? Because fucking fill my schedule with cool things, please. I think it's called the Emmys. Ben, you need to be on the red carpet. That is sheer gold. All right, Reeking of Gin.

I didn't even drink any gin last night. Vodka. I drank some vodka last night. I remember around 2.30, Ben silent up next to me at the bar and say, hey bartender, double vodka tonic with a splash of cranberry in it. You're wrong, double vodka soda with a splash of cranberry in it because you want to have a little flavor. And the soda has no calories and I'm trying to lose weight. And I don't know if you've noticed, but I've lost two pounds.

I haven't. Anyway, we got listener pasta and there's a fella and he called in from Medford, Wisconsin, which is one of the spookier locations around in this entire country. And his name is Luke. Oh, I thought it was Cluk. Oh, no. Is that not a name? No, Cluk is not actually a name.

Oh, that's weird. I know, I'm sorry. I've spent a lot of time on Uranus. Yes, Cluk is a frame of mind. Oh, yeah, I've heard that. Feeling cluky. You know what else is a frame of mind? What's that?

Your age. Okay. Luke is here. Luke, how are you? I'm doing good. How about yourself? All right. Are you ready to scare the shit out of us, please?

Oh boy, am I? So again, I just want to, before we begin with Luke, guys, it's Halloween. I don't care if you're at your workplace right now. I don't care if you're- Grandma's house. Your grandmother's house. I don't care if you are on the job at a hospital as an emergency plastic surgeon. Maybe a construction job.

Whatever. The fuck it is you do. Okay. Take off your pants. No. Right now. Take off your pants. Fiddle with your pubes.

With your left hand. With your right hand. Roll up a fucking pool table leg. Full of fucking sticky-nicky fucking pesto bowls. There's a person dying on the operating room. Who gives the fuck? Okay. Smoke it up and get ready to be delighted with fright.

Okay. All right. So Luke's story is, we're starting off with some aliens here. Fuck yes. Which I think we had a couple of alien stories last year, but we're going to start off with an alien story this year from Lucas. Lucas, Luke, tell us your alien story. I thought it was just about growing up in Wisconsin and how miserable that is.

Well, all right, let's get right to it. I guess all this starts when I was eight years old. We moved to a different town. It's not the delightful Medford, Wisconsin. It was more towards Minnesota. And at that time, you know, I was kind of a weird kid, which shouldn't come as a surprise since I listened to this podcast. I mean, we're all fucking very normal.

Yeah, man. But, you know, I was really into aliens. They had books at the school library, like, you know, Baby's First, UFOology book. And I just devoured all of that. That's awesome. I can't wait to get that for my children and then just send them off to school. And they're like, but there's a bigger agenda. And they're like, Mrs. Abrowski, your kids can't read.

But you're teaching them the truth. Yes. And that's what's important. Yeah, around that time, I started to have these really vivid nightmares. Just, you know, you have those dreams on occasion that they are real as they're happening to you. And they always took the same form. It was I would, you know, fall asleep. And in my dream, I would be lying in my bed, look over to my window, and there would be something looking in on me.

And, you know, obviously it was an alien. The best way to describe him, I guess, it's not that they were exactly like Whitley Strybers, communion aliens, you know, the short grays. But they sort of look like, if you've ever seen that movie, Splice, terrible movie. It's a great movie, Hot Sexy. He starts fucking his own daughter. I love that. Sexy, amazing stuff. But they kind of looked like the monster in that movie.

Well, you know, they talk about it because they're the types that people see all the time. The short grays are the ones that are the robotic-like servants of what is often described. Even what you're talking about is these tall grays. The tall grays are the ones that are a little bit more like us looking, elongated. And the thing that's always mentioned about them is that they are insect-like, that they move like insects. But that's also people desperate for attention. Was it masturbating? Do you feel like it was getting aroused when it was looking at you? I can't say.

I couldn't really, like, I couldn't make out any specific facial, like, movement or anything like that. It was just, there's something looking in on me. Was that the entire dream? No. It would be, I would, you know, I would wake up, look at the window. There would be something looking in on me and then I would just start screaming. Like, in my dream, it would be this top of my lungs just louder than I could scream in real life. Just guttural, terrified, oh my god, I'm gonna die, that sort of thing.

And in my dream, sometimes my parents would come down and they'd be like, oh, look, what are you doing down here? What's the deal? Look, you're listening to someone, that new heavy metal music? Yeah, and I would always be like, there's something outside, there's an alien outside the window. And they would go and look and there'd be nothing. They'd be like, oh, Luke, you're just, your imagination's going wild. And that would essentially be the dream. You know, I would wake up and there was never that, oh, maybe that actually happened.

Like, it was always, oh, that was just a nightmare. I should get ready for school. Do you have a rogue uncle? No, he's around in your family history of creepy people in my family or neighbors or anything like that. So that, you know, fast forward 15 years. How often have you had the dream through your childhood? I have not had the dream since moving out of that house, which actually could play into something. I'll get to that.

I was talking with my dad, and my dad's this big, blustery Midwestern guy, so the only way I can relate to him is through drinking. What does he like to drink the most? We were a few drinks down and we were just kind of talking about embarrassing family stuff. Ben is very focused on the booze today because he's literally visibly intoxicated. There is a juniper very hanging out of his nose. I'm not drunk. You woke up.

All right, what did your dad like to drink? He just answered the question. So you're getting drunk with your father. We're not mad at you, Luke. But yeah, we were just sort of talking about embarrassing family stuff from the past. And then he looks at me and he says, you know, I remember those times where you would just wake up screaming in the middle of the night, just bloody murder, and we would go down and you'd be like pointing at the window like, oh my god, there's something out there. And we would, you know, we would go and check and there'd be nothing, but you were just constantly like, no, aliens, aliens.

And I never thought that that actually happened. Oh, you thought that them coming to see you was all a part of the dream? Yeah, and like the entire time I was like, oh, that entire experience was just a night terror I should move on. And then, and then he just bust out and know that actually happened. Like I was screaming about aliens the night. Even Whitley Strieber said that, though, he said that during his experiences that he would find himself in the middle of it, realizing that he was screaming, realizing the entire time, because they say that aliens have this effect on humans, that they are so foreign to us.

They make our nervous systems that really get charged up. They make like our hair on the back of our neck stand up because it's like being approached by a superior creature. Yeah, what did your father think about you seeing the aliens? Was he mocking you or was he like a sympathetic? Well, he didn't like he assumed he knew I was sort of the sci-fi geek sort of nerdy kid. So he was just, I think he was coming at it from, oh, he's just having a nightmare, you know, let him, let him be. Yeah, this is what he gets for reading those books. Right, exactly.

But you haven't had any recent experiences? I haven't had any recent experiences, but just the fact that my dad sort of, and he also said, you know, yeah, you were, we sort of got to talking about it. And he was like, yeah, you were always talking about aliens. Like sometimes you'd come up in the middle of the night and like you're talking about, I don't want them to look at me through the window. If I was your father, I would be fucking creeped out. Yeah, I'd black out your window to say that.

But the thing is, I never remembered talking to him about like any of that stuff. Did he ever get probed? No, I don't think so. Like it's not as dramatic as say like, you know, oh, I found an alien implant in my ear or something like that. No, but that's a common experience. That is what people have described that experience, multitudes of weight. That's how they come a lot of the time. Jeremy Vainey, we interviewed Jeremy Vainey.

He was sexually assaulted. He was definitely sexually assaulted. Did you feel like you were dressing like a sexy astronaut when you went to sleep and sort of got these aliens all fucking hard for you? Are you saying I deserved this? No, no, no. No victim. No victim blame. No victim blame. We're not doing anything.

Definitely not, but maybe you did court them. Yeah, maybe you let them on. You know, just by sleeping there, being a kid, all fucking ready for them to come and just pull on your pants and just play with your little berries you got going on down there. I just feel like it's a fun little alien looking through the window of a Medford, Wisconsin housing. Oh, I wish I was a human. You know, maybe that was the case. No, that's just that's you. That was just you going through your neighborhood in Wisconsin looking at people through their windows.

Eating dinner with their normal family. Like that Norman Rockwell painting that alien just wanted to be a real boy. Thank you so much for your story, man. Yeah, no problem. That's great. It's an honor to be on the show. Listen to it every week. Do you bring this into your sex life at all? Every time I've tried, it's kind of backfired.

Babe, I just want you to lay here and I'm going to go paint myself brown and I'm going to stare at you through the window. She's like, I don't want to play OJ again. He's like, no, this is not OJ. Yeah, maybe the opposite. Maybe she looks at him through the window. All right, thank you. Hail Satan.

Hail Satan. All right, Luke from Medford, Wisconsin. Good God. He smells drunk. Well, I do not smell drunk. I didn't have time to brush my teeth this morning. All right, our next caller is Drew Frazier. Where are you from, Drew?

San Diego, California. Oh, beautiful. San Diego, California. How's the weather? Oh, I was going to say, I was going to say breasts. Oh, they're great. How are the breasts out there? Oh, delicious. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. San Diego. Don't get me going. I actually just got back from San Diego. I went to Rico's Burritos. Oh, boy, how do you one with 1,000 other taco shops? Yeah. I don't know it.

It was a good one. Yeah, good burn, Drew. Making fun of Henry. I love it. You went all the way to San Diego for a burrito? I go to a lot of places for just a burrito. Slowly the burrito, OK. No, that's a justifiable reason.

Yes. All right, Drew, what is your spooky story from San Diego? And again, before this story, what I'd like you to do is wherever you are right now, if you're driving a car, if you're flying a plane, what I want you to do is to take off your shirt. But you should have your hands on the wheel, though. No, no.

You want to have your hands on the wheel? Let Jesus take the wheel. And you fucking take a shot of whiskey and fucking blow a bong load into your asshole. Well, that's what brought down the Malaysian plane. I know, and that was again that. But it was a water ride. It was the 30 seconds before it disintegrated in the air, though.

And be prepared to get scared by the salty tunes of Drew. Frasier from San Diego. It seems as if the pilots have injected bong. Smoked bongs through their butts. Drew from San Diego. Drew from some bongs in their butts there. So, Drew, you're a marine, right? Yes.

All right, yeah. And apparently these stories have to do with your time in the Marine Corps? They do. In fact, they're from Afghanistan. Three of them happened right while I was employed. I have been looking for a ghost story from Afghanistan for years. Yeah, I'm excited.

All right. Yeah, this is great. All right, man. What do you got? All right. So it starts off. Let's go back to 2012. Year of our love.

And so we had an outpost that would get cycled through every couple of days with a new squad. So we were down there. It's a smaller compound about 100 by 100 three rooms and two posts. So you would be overwatching a river to your left and your right as a wall. Just to kind of give the tense moments or kind of feeling that it had was that anything could have come around those corners.

And so every time you're kind of on edge while you're down there. So I'm down there. It's wintertime. It's cold. And that's when I hear this maniacal scream. Best way I can describe it is just this deep scream out to my left, maybe 150 feet away. So already I'm on edge.

But when I hear this really gets the adrenaline pumping. So I yelled my buddy, hey, did you hear that? No, he didn't hear anything. He didn't hear nothing. So that's the first instance. And it's like, did you hear what? And he's like, did you hear the. No.

He's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, bro. No, he didn't hear it. But you know, it's understandable. So either way, I ignore it because I'm not crazy. We don't need anyone being crazy right now. So we'll fast forward a couple of days. And as we're transitioning with another squad, I hear someone ask, hey, man, how you been sleeping?

You know, we're on edge as coal, whatever. People ask these questions, but it was more specific to being here at this compound. So he asked that. He's like, oh, you know, I've been sleeping, whatever. So again, we'll fast forward again for a couple more days later. And is it raining for about five days straight? Mud up to your damn knees.

It's awful. And that's when, again, he asked how he's sleeping. But again, same kind of discomfort while he's sleeping. Either way, I'm down there again. It's nighttime, three o'clock in the morning, cold. It's been raining for five days. And I hear it again. I hear it again about same distance off to my left.

But this time, my buddy responds. Hey, did you hear that? Thank you. Yeah, I heard that, man. And he, he says, I mean, it sounds like a retard screaming. He's like, yes, thank you, Sergeant. American heroes are allowed to say the R word. That's what I would say.

So the next morning, sorry, not the next morning. That night, I go to wake up my relief. And as I wake him up, I walk into the room. It's pitch black in there. And I go to go to wake him up and I realize he's already awake. And I look a little bit closer. He has his rifle in his hands. So already, I'm okay.

What's going on? And he says to me, there's someone in the room. So my adrenaline's pounding at this point because I think I'm going to have to stab someone with my rifle, but he turns to me and he says over, over there. And it's at the back of the room with a pile of blankets. And he says, I woke up after a terrible dream to hear someone like breathing out and breathing in really slow. He's in this room alone.

So he hears this and he woke up and this was about 30 minutes before I woke him up. And he said, he had been listening to, now there's lots of creatures in it. And he's everywhere, but all he hears is this methodical scratching against the mud. Now the whole country is fucking mud. So it could come from anywhere, but he said it was the back of the room. And he hears this scratching. So I shone my light back there. There's nothing there.

But on the wall is a three by three, you know, a large dream catcher up on the wall. And I don't know how long it's been there, but either way it's been there since the previous residents had owned it. All their kind of belongings were in the back of the room. And either way he wakes up and, or not wakes up, he gets up and heads out and really uses us on post. When I go to sleep, I wake up the next morning and all the people's belongings, the dream catcher, all that shit's on fire.

All out in our burn pit. They burned it all. Now it is in something spooky. And they decided to burn it because they wanted it out of there. Because of all of the uncomfortable and bad sleep that everyone had been getting from that room. So finally, like somebody snapped and was like, I'm getting rid of all of this shit. They had to go. All of it had to go.

There was, it was, because it wasn't just one or two people. There was about five people that slept in that room on and off as they cycled through. So this was a consistent thing that everyone was having. So, and that's, that's where the story ends right there. That's clear. And that's the secret war in Afghanistan no one's talking about. Yeah, we need to send these new female ghostbusters over there. I agree.

That's, that's fucking frightening. So did all the activity stop after it was burned, after all the stuff was burned? Well, I was there for about one more cycle and nothing was mentioned. I heard no noise. I heard no screen. Nothing like that. How long is the cycle? Between two to three days and then when it would rain, we'd be there for about five days.

So this was someone's former home. This was an, this is what wasn't built by us. This was a local's like home that was retrofitted into a base. Well, it was an, it was an observation. Like it would, it would, five people will come down and it was literally just a house. And yes, exactly. There was some sandbags, put up things like that. But other than that, it was literally whatever they built.

That's what it was. Three rooms and that was it. Wow. That's amazing. That's so intense, dude. Well, I'm glad that you're back and you're, and you're all right, man. Well, thank you so much, man. No problem guys.

Appreciate it. And I look forward to hearing the new episode. Oh wait. One more thing. Didn't you say that you had, didn't you say you saw something in the sky? Right. Um, so this was, we'll fast forward again. We'll say this is a six months.

We'll say we'll fast forward. It's two o'clock in the morning and I was just sitting on a rooftop and I was looking at the sky when there's no lights around for 150 miles. The sky is just gorgeous and bright. I've never seen that. It sounds wonderful. And so I'm looking at this mountain range kind of behind us and I see what I only can describe as a projectile, like a white though, up in the sky. Big enough for me to recognize though is that and it is moving horizontally. Not kind of, not kind of an angle.

Nothing like that. That was the key thing was to move horizontally. As it went, it, it didn't explode. It burst, which I don't know. What's the difference? Well, I don't want to imply that there was like an explosion. It's separated into different parts sort of. Well, it's, when I say it burst, it went, it just exploded, burst into a perfect circle.

That's pretty much what it came down to with this circle. Well, I'm going to say that you guys are sitting on a lot of secret shit and I think you know a lot of stuff that you don't want to talk about. We're talking about it, Henry. I'm just saying there's other shit that you know that you won't spill, man. And I know that there's another agenda going on. Yeah. Because you know how much marine infantry men are involved in the area. It's always the one type shit.

So when you have it, the key part about that, about what I saw with the cloud of smoke that it created was a perfect circle and it kept expanding and expanding. And then about maybe two minutes went by and another one had branched off to make another smaller circle and it kept expanding. And that was, that was pretty much it that this thing went. It burst and burst and these perfect circles were up in the sky. Not even, not even a joke, but that sounds like fucking chemtrails. It sounds like when they seed clouds and stuff like that. Cloud bursting. Yeah.

So you could be, you could have seen your fucking government. I mean, it's everyone's government. I mean, technically, you know, our government, you were on the front lines and you saw us test a new shit. It didn't rain like snow cones or anything, right? Or like giant tomatoes. Ooh, I love that. No, but it was actually above the mountain. As it went off, there was a fog that came down the mountain.

It didn't make it to me, but I noted that it was this fog that rolled down the mountain. Chemtrails. Yeah. Chemtrails. Yeah, they might, I mean, we do know that the United States government has a habit of experimenting on its own soldiers. Well, I've had several people in Los Angeles come at me too and they're like, you can tell what clouds are chemtrail clouds because they're trying to make it rain in that fucking godless city where I'm forced to be in. Right. Abandon it.

Abandon it. Like, it should be abandoned. It's a hell desert. Do you have any health ramifications after you saw the possible chemtrails? Do you have like a third testicle or anything? No third testicles. I think I'm actually, I'm okay as far as that goes. Yeah.

Well, man, I'm so glad you're okay. Thank you for serving our country and thank you for giving us our fucking delicious routine. Yes, delicious. Thanks for having me. Hell yeah. You're welcome. You're welcome. So as a part of the listener Pasa celebration of Halloween this week, we're going to be reading some of these stories that you have sent in via email as well.

as well and we're going to smash them like a cock between two buttocks nice in between these recorded stories from some of our listeners and I'm going to say some of these are pretty spooky indeed. Some of these are pretty spooky and some of these are spooky and if you could notice that there is a difference in the recording sounding of my voice it's because I'm back in Los Angeles. I was only in New York for a brief period of time and good Christ do I miss it? You look miserable Henry. Thank you. If you want to know why Ben sounds weird that's because he is stuck at the doggie house right now. Yes if you hear a random Pomeranian barking there's no Pomeranian that I take care of. Hmm is it a ghost? It's a ghost. I will say I got

pretty freaked out by a raccoon last night. Yeah what is it with you and raccoons? They're fucking coming for me man. They love you dude. I don't think they do. I don't think they do. They look at you like you're a big garbage can full of meats and cheeses they want to eat. We are similar in that way. Yes um all right should I start? Start Ben. Yes please. Okay so I'm just going to read the full email. Read the story. No just find the story part of it. Read the story. I'm going to read the whole thing. Hello guys I have a story for you. Oh that's excited. It's not as cool as knowing a serial killer though my grandfather knew people who worked on the Zodiac case at the Maryland Navy base and my mother's teacher taught Patty Hearst before she

went crazy. So you're that's a case not solved and that's a teacher who drove somebody nuts. So your family background is uh full of bad educators and bad detectives. Anyways my story I live in Arkansas part of tornado alley. Tornado season starts around the end of April. I was a junior in high school and remember the sky was so dark it seemed like the sun never rose that morning. Oh missing sun. It was one of the most violent thunderstorms I'd ever seen. Around 9 a.m the principal announced that our classmate will call him John because his name was probably John. Had been struck by lightning around 7 30 at his bus stop at a local Baptist church and passed away at the regional hospital. I don't know why that's such a funny way to die.

What happened to John? Struck by lightning you know oh all right we were all shocked. Nothing like that had happened before in our school. By lunchtime people were spreading the story around of what happened. Rumor had it it was his that his last words had been along the lines of I hate this goddamn rain. And the rain smithing. Before being struck by the lightning to the school parking lot. Those are pretty perfect last words before you get struck by lightning I think. That his shoes had melted into the asphalt. I sure wish I had left my umbrella hat at home. Yeah his shoes had melted into the asphalt when he was struck. I talked to my friend into driving down to the church to check it out. There was nothing there beyond some burnt asphalt but there were

disappointingly no melted shoes. A week later after the funeral after his obituary was published I was in the library for study hall when another thunderstorm hit the town. The school was old and it wasn't surprising that when the power went out it wasn't surprising when the power went out. But when it came back on the fax machine was turned on and began spitting out copies of John's obituary. Also later that year a deer with brain worms ran through the school and shat all over the commons during lunch. That's the story I want to hear next. During camo day of spirit week. Camo day I assume everyone wears camouflage during spirit week here. It was kind of a weird year. Also I just wanted to say that I love the podcast and I've met so

many great people on the Facebook page. Thanks for that. Beth Ashley T. Wow. That's so nice. I think I'm going to preemptively hesitantly congratulate you on your reading skills for that email. I think that you did well. I think that you attempted to read it and you attempted to sell it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm proud of you. Yeah. And also later that year a deer with brain worms ran through the school and shat all over the commons during lunch which might be my favorite sentence I've ever read. Yes. Besides Henry Zabrowski you're not the father. Oh that's a funny one too. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. All right. Well let's let's go back to another call. Yeah.

Whatever you want to do. It's up to you. Rowan. Yeah. Hi. Hey how are you. Thanks so much for doing the show. Thank you for choosing my story. Yeah. Rowan's a long time listener. I have seen Rowan. I know Rowan's name. Don't creep around. I know everything about you. I have seen you miss McDonald's. Good vacation to Spain last year. All right. Our next story is from long time listener Rowan McDonald. How are you doing today Rowan. I'm good. I have some spooky shit. All right. And before this story I just wanted to say I don't care where you are right now. I don't care if you're at a grocery store or if you're at your grandmother's fucking funeral. I want you to take off your shoes. Sorry about

your grandmother though. Your grandmother nobody cares. All right. And what I want you to do is I want you to get a flask right and fill it with weed juice juice and suck on it the entire time and play with your toes in the grass and you're ready to have your mind fucking flip flop like a brown pancake by Rowan's scary tale of the McClellan. So you just asked people to be autistic at a funeral. Good to know. All right. Rowan what do you got. All right. So when I was eight I moved from California to Connecticut into a place in New Britain and my sister and I had a bunk bed a metal bunk bed because that was a good idea. Well I went to sleep one night. I tried to go to sleep early because it was a like five day trip across the country and my sister was on the bottom bunk.

I was on the top and out of nowhere I felt someone like punch me on the top of my head. My sister's a jerk so I assumed she did it. I got up and I started yelling at her and she was like don't you think you would have heard me get up and then get back down. I was like I guess but it really felt like someone punched me but I let it go for that point in time. Yeah because there's also that syndrome known as exploding head syndrome and I've gotten it a couple times where you hear a loud noise that wakes me up out of my sleep. But I wasn't quite asleep yet so it was weird. Yes. So then my sister went on like she went to a sleepover and I wanted to sleep on her bed because it was bigger and better and I was eight. Oh my god. Usually the top bunk is better than the bottom

bunk I thought. No I fell out of it once so. Oh and then you're afraid for the rest of your life. Believe me that's why I can't sit in chairs. Difficult for me. Always falling. I was asleep and in the middle of the night I woke up and I looked out from under the covers and I saw this girl sitting like in front of me and she had like this weird green decaying skin. She was staring straight at me and like she was almost glowing white. Like the rest of my room was dark she was like glowing white. I was so freaked out I couldn't breathe I couldn't do anything I just like hid under the covers until my brain was like okay you're going to sleep now but I didn't notice. After that point I would feel things in my room like out of nowhere I was alone

but I feel like someone was staring at me and I would bump into people that weren't there or I'd hear whispering in my ear one time it even whispered my name into my ear which I then ran out into the living room sat there with my door open just kind of stared. It was not okay. I also had a reoccurring dream that was. Rowan is a great name to say slowly. Rowan. Did it sound like that Rowan? Yes. We don't want to scare you Rowan. It was Henry. It was Henry. Henry's the girl. I've always followed you. So I had this reoccurring dream that I only had when I was living in this house of I was like a I was like a camera looking through these like through a slot and there was this person it was a dirt floor and there were like metal walls and this person was clearly insane

and they were like saying stuff and like writhing around and then it saw me and it stopped and it would go towards this window thing and it like reached out and that's when I would back up and it would tell me things like you know like let me out I'll get you it's like clawing at me and I'm just back. Which is too opposite message. Every time you tell me to let you out and then you say you're gonna get me I'm sorry bro I ain't gonna help you. It's kind of productive. No it is it is. Let me out I'll take care of you forever like that's nice. That's nice yeah yeah I'll marry your ass. Yeah let me out I'm gonna stab you a bunch. I had always had this bad feeling in my back hallway it was mostly my room and my back hallway where the bathroom was so that was inconvenient

and it was just bad a bad feeling I hated it and what was the feeling was it like super heavy and intense? Yeah it was very much like what I felt in my room when I felt like someone was watching me it was intense and it was bad. Now you weren't stoned to the gills right because sometimes I get that. Seeing as I was I was 8 to 14 probably not. You know you never know. I started getting high at like 14. You're also all fucked up. At next girlfriend you started smoking weed at like 11. You're so different also fucked up. I remember how fucked up she was. Yeah. Yeah. So have you experienced anything in adulthood or is that how still in your family? Not really like in your family. Like since I moved out of this place there's not really been much of anything.

Do you feel unloved? Calm down Ben. That's a different podcast. Yeah yeah yeah if that's the case please send me an email we'll get to it on the other the different show. The feelings. Well I had this dream and it had the girl it had the little girl and it was different parts of my house and then out of nowhere it like in the back hallway there's this man like hanging himself and the whole dream was like in like strobe light sort of thing. It's like every one of your dreams is a Metallica video. Yeah through these years apparently it was. All right good dad. See the guy hanging and he points to it and then it turns into Lars Ulrich and it's just him hanging by a noose while playing the drums. That was being wonderful.

So the spookiest dream of all is when I moved from this place to my current house the first night I slept here I had a dream it was my room my room completely empty and the little girl standing in the middle of it. She turns around and she starts walking towards me and it's still sort of like that. I'm a camera and I'm backing up I back up out through the house and I'm traveling backwards and I'm going I can tell I'm going from my old house to my new house but it's clear like I can see the streets I know where I am and it backs up until I'm in my town and then my street and then my room and I can see my room even though I'm still dreaming and as I wake up with like a pop I hear I'll get you and then I woke up and it was and it wasn't

but it was it it was a menacing I'll get you it wasn't like a oh I'll get you. No I don't think Detective Popcorn sent me that way. That's great. Yeah I'm sleeping there. It's like a hot dog laying on a warming tray. So delicious oh pink laying down there. Oh I wish I wasn't a crazy little ghost girl. I wish I could be some mustard. I'm that hot dog. I mean I agree with everything you said. That sounds perfect. Rowan that is wonderful and I'll tell you it's you're a beautiful woman and that and that ghost was really India. Oh thank you. Isn't that nice. Yeah I'll get you you know I say that to all the girls. He does he does say that to all of the women and it is it is legitimately a problem. It is. It is becoming an issue. Yeah. All right Rowan well

thank you very much. Thank you. Hail Satan. Hail Satan. Goodbye. All right talk to you soon. All right let's hear another reading from Henry. Yes I open my email and what do I hear. Is it a man yelling. No it's a ghost. This is a story from Rylan Anderson. Mr. Anderson. I was in late middle school or maybe even freshman year when this happened. I'm from a military family so we move around a lot. At the time this happened we were stationed in Hawaii. Oh I want to lay. The housing area that we lived in originally had been scheduled for demolition so we were moved into a newly built neighborhood that was outside the American Air Force Base. Oh it's an American Air Force Base. I thought it was a weird Hawaiian town. How was it

spelled. Yeah. Hickam it's spelled like Hickam but I thought maybe it's because they're all weird. I don't know what their race is over there. Right. Right. As I said Polynesian. Oh fake Asian. As I said the houses were brand new but they weren't great as I would later find out they were built entirely by the construction apprentices who did an awful job to the point where they even mixed the paint and primer wrong and our walls were plastically sticky like a grip tape. Anyway my mother had recently had another child who we named Gil which is an unforged name to give a kid because basically you've made him a middle manager his whole life. And he was just learning to speak in full and semi-full sentences.

About six months after we had moved into the house I personally noticed that there were odd cold spots around the house. I'd always jokingly think oh there must be a ghost in here. You were right. These spots were usually around the stairs. We had the kind of stairs that went halfway up stopped and became a small landing and then continued to the second story in the opposite direction. In addition to the cold spots I noticed things being moved from where I put them a door being closed the fan being turned on my plate moving from one side of the counter to the other even the TV volume would seem to change sometimes when I was away or in the WC. As myself I'm known to be an airhead so for most of it I thought I must have just moved things and forgotten

about it. It happened to my parents too though which was more strange. For instance I overheard my mom scolding herself for leaving open a window she swore she closed. It says mem but I feel weird saying mem. As all this started happening Gil began to act quite oddly as well. He would stare at seemingly nothing and say play as if you were talking to someone which we didn't think much of this only happened for probably two weeks and then his behavior changed. Every now and then he would run to my mother as if he was running from something frightened but not exactly terrified. One day he stood at the bottom of the stairs and pointed to the landing area and said to my mom why is he here mom would respond with the who sweetie the building man my brother said as if

it was obvious and it's not obvious Gil is fucking going not skilled needs to be put in a mental asylum my mother began to treat it as if she just made an if he just made an imaginary friend later that week though Gil asked mom to make the building man go away and then the same day didn't want to be carried up the stairs to the nursing room because the building man was there and he said it would it would always point to the general area of the landing or the stairs he'd always point right there to the landing eventually he began to act very scared of the so-called building man that he kept seeing near the stairs and he would scream and cry whenever my mom carried him up or down the stairs as his reactions became more alarming I mentioned it to a friend who

also happened to be the son of the first family to move into this new neighborhood but I'm telling him he became very interested like weirdly interested and I asked him why was he so curious and about what my brother was saying about this building man my friend who's called Joseph by the way informed me of an accident that happened at the time they were still erecting certain houses in the neighborhood they did it in sections so some could move in while others were still being constructed apparently there were a couple of workers that had gotten into an argument while finishing the wooden framework of a house they were doing something with the roof I don't remember what specifically but they became agitated I guess to the point where they weren't paying attention

and this one of them fell probably not using a harness system stupid apprentices and even though it was only two-story fall it landed on his head and it was a fatal injury as you could probably guess that house was my house my goddamn house so at this point I was putting together a theory that what my younger brother was seeing was in fact the ghost of the man who I presume was the worker that died that day I am indeed a believer in ghosts but I was not keen on believing that I personally had moved to a house that was actually haunted after a few days of talking about it with Joseph we decided that we needed to confirm the existence of this ghost or spirit and discover why it would be lingering that night after our parents were asleep he snuck out and came to

my house and we busted out the good old-fashioned Ouija board that George Norrie fucking hates when he asked the standard questions are you here who are you what's up my home dog fucker no answer and so it became kind of irritated and asked what was probably a significantly more violent tone who are you and why are you here like in paranormal adventures right after that a gust of wind swept through the living room but there were no open windows the doors greatly encouraged by reaction of some sort I asked again in an angry tone at that moment I did so so did Joseph the sense of presence like a feeling you get when someone is behind you there was nothing there then we heard a clear noise a noise like someone had just jumped and

stomp loudly on the landing you fucker you hear that noise yeah I heard that we ran out of the house like little schoolgirls let me tell you I was Usain motherfucking bolt for 15 seconds it took me to get out the back door and he would find that insulting yeah my parents were flying back to the mainland for a wedding the house would be empty for the weekend and I would be home alone for a few days we took this chance to perform a seance and hopefully get rid of the spirit we decided to call that out of respect since ghost sounds I mean we grabbed a few friends who were into the occult and contacted a medium there's a really only one medium on the island who'd be considered legit or real apparently it was very lucky that we were able to get a hold of her in such a short

notice we began at a circular table and began at midnight although I thought it was unnecessary she did the same general talk up asking her questions but she did it for several minutes eventually she paused and waited for a moment for going again who are you as if an answer the candles were that we were using went out I guess she took that as an answer because she continued she asked why are you here after a second of silence she said that it was angry almost described as irritated she cut to the point and told the spirit I want you to leave this place leave this house she got louder saying leave this house do not stay here leave this house this is Hawaii go to the beach and then the baby gate we put at the bottom of the stairs flew out of place like

as if it was kicked as if it was kicked with one more shot of leave here she stopped talking then after what seemed like ages of silence she said that it was gone and she made 300 easy dollars it's great Gil went entirely back to normal and never mentioned the building man again thank you so much Rylan it's at the worst part of living Hawaii huh that's sad because you're surfing to work every day and you got a beach boys playing everywhere and boy nothing but soft food yeah you're all upset about living in Hawaii because you got ghosts you should be lucky for the ghosts I live I live in Los Angeles and I can't see a goddamn ghost for the life of me yeah you're so the only thing the only thing that story was missing was this sentence

also later that year a deer with brain worms ran through the school and shadowed over the conference during lunch all right let's get back to another call hello cat hi how are you i'm good how are you doing cat what's up okay let's look at a little bit about here there's the boys get my unit i can't that's my hand no one can ever see me yeah put your head farther this way it's this way there's a camera here so this is the infamous smelly studio huh yeah does not smell better today no it's not worse today it smells bad like old weed yeah it's because it smells like yeah because also the smell coming from ben all right like wc fields corks oh can a man drink a bottle of vodka can a man come on hi how are you guys good cat how are

you doing only slightly hungover yeah just slightly where are you at cat i am on andrew's air force base in maryland holy shit oh are you um are you our air force i am that is good that's great i love because you guys are believable humans yeah not all of us you know i think we've got fans in every branch of the military yeah except yeah we got some navy people we we actually talked to a marine earlier today we haven't met a single person from the fucking nsa that's why i should drive by there every day when i go up to baltimore can you go and can you like get a bunch of rotten eggs and throw it at the fucking building for me just like every day you stop by you like i get my coffee i park it from the nsa office scream at them about getting out of my head and

then i drive back to the my air force base before we get into this story what i want you to do is take off your letterman's jacket if you're in high school take off your policeman's uniform if you're a police officer i like that idea right get all the way down to your your nude self take your underwear down and wrap it around your feet like it's weird socks and then i want you to go and i'll fucking make up a loaf of weed in the oven going up take a bunch of weed and put it in a fucking baking tray and put it in the oven at 450 450 what you do is yeah let that weed bake for like 15 minutes and stick your head in the oven shut it off shut off the oven after it's been baking a little get some of that sweet sweet all that sweet smoke and letting it fucking go on

your nose and then i want you to sit down i want you to put in your ear plugs and i want you to get ready for the scariest tale we've heard today from cat yeah and air force that's a very difficult way to smoke weed i will say i don't know if that's the best it's the fifth of these intros i've done oh okay i mean they're still just as good as the first yeah yeah i will agree with that marker yeah yeah very good yeah all right kawaii got all right so when i moved when i got stationed in mainland japan 2012 uh i i lived in the dorm since i'm unmarried so i mean at first when i got in there it's fantastic i had my own bathroom like tiny little apartment size thing it was great i was so happy to finally have my own bathroom and um i would notice like things out of the corner

in my eye just like moving kind of just played it off didn't think too much of it and um i started to hear like weird knocking noises like coming from inside my wooden closet and uh just kind of played it off as like other airmen banging around but the walls are kind of solid cement it'd be a little hard um it started escalating though when i would like i'd be putting my hair up to go running and out of the corner of my eye would see a black form walking into my bathroom jesus no i i just ignored it was not gonna like investigate anything further because that's how white people die in horror movies they investigate so you never good thing but you but cat you're the fucking air force you're you have to investigate yeah you're of the military the air force exactly what am i gonna do

yeah i'm rock hard can i just say that i am i can't stop thinking of jody foster silence of the lambs hair up going for a jog can't marry me but no you're the girl that survived no answer well i mean her profile picture she's got a picture with a man with a beard oh yeah he's a hipster is his santa claus it's not santa claus you're dating a man with a beer cat he actually introduced me to you guys his podcast oh i love him okay okay yeah yeah that's well offers off the table he's gonna go back to marrying that bottle of vodka dolly that's a bit likes well i mean i would i would see this black form and it would always be walking from like my front door from my closet into the bathroom um sometimes i'd be showering

i'd be afraid to close my eyes because like i didn't know what would appear and i'd see like shadows moving i'm like oh it's it's just the light it's just the light play it off um the scariest thing happened to me though i was taking a nap on my couch and i i distinctly remember when i came home i didn't even take off my boots i was just so exhausted i walked in the room locked the door and then lay down the couch and passed out um i heard my front door open and uh i i can't move at this point but my eyes are open and i i hear this japanese lady uh say sorry japanese and excuse me and i hear her walk in and i i look out i look up and it looks like she's wearing a of almost a business woman's suit like the dress and the pant coat um and she had long long black hair

and so i close my eyes i'm like i have no idea what's going on i'm terrified i close my eyes and i feel her hair drape on my face and i feel her touch my face and she opens my eye and all i see are the whites of her eyes and the long hair and so i sit up and i'm finally able to move and i scream and there's nothing there and the door's unlocked oh wow what i do like is that they're still polite yeah and how do you say how do you say uh i'm sorry in uh japanese uh guminous i that's so you know because the the the crazy we've seen it a million times down with like you know uh the original ring and with the every single j horror film like portrays the ghosts like that but that is that is how the japanese ghosts appear yeah right yeah japanese

ghosts definitely have a certain style panache yeah um what was the feeling when you were around the uh the entity there was did you feel like just terrified or i felt really unsettled i eventually that night i went out with a few of my friends to get ramen and i was like jokingly telling about it you know trying to play it off again and uh my buddy he's like what what kind of suit was she wearing and i explained it to him and it looked like dark blue he's like oh um i'm not trying to freak you out but i've i've seen that lady at the end of my bed and i i now sleep with lights on oh my god you know the actually i think it's it's amazing that he asked like what color the suit was yeah it's like oh mine oh that's a different one mine wears a brown suit but you're

saying someone sits at the end of your bed right yes okay does she like do the thing where she goes like oh i never had the future and then shoots blood all out of your eyes and you wake up and you're in the bathroom covered in your own blood does that happen to you too um that's really fucking terrifying like there's something that is so scary because we also got um a ghost story from a man that's served in afghanistan well um and it's terrifying what is it about and Henry maybe you can answer this what is it about moving to a foreign country i feel like a lot of these people experience these things when they're in new environments would say i feel like there's a lot as soon as you're unsettled they talk about it like even any sort of psychic phenomenon anything

that's like ghosts or anything that normally happens when something is either in transition or or during like emotional stress right like and there's a lot of puberty and stuff as well yes because there's a lot of change going on and i'm basically according to the modern theory of what's going on with ghosts and shit like that is that there is intelligences outside of us that that sort of work with our our consciousness which is like a gigantic operating system so sometimes it's just takes the right person and the right scenario to like be the key in the lock that allows like the ghost to play out so figure that into your moving plans you know just be like we have you know five thousand dollars for the move to chicago two weeks of ghost uh trauma don't forget that we

have to take off work and then we gotta get some deep dish yeah because you deep dish and of course get those hot dogs uh cat an amazing story thank you so much how much longer do you have in the air force cat three more years are you enjoying it so far i miss being in japan we're oh that's right you're not over there you're in maryland yeah that sucks yeah all right we won't tell your boss so i love this place it's fantastic yeah that's all right i bet well you you and your gun to our head you and your you and your fella gotta come over uh come up to new york sometime and come see the live show or something definitely it's like only a four hour drive that's not bad yeah come on come on for the weekend have a nice weekend in new york city well thank you well

i hope i hope you don't get any haunted by any real criminals of baltimore oh my goodness that's terrible um all right thank you so much cat thank you guys hail satan hail satan whoo yeah hello hey what's up jason how you doing dude i'm doing pretty good how about you very good very good very good indeed yeah it's just me and ben henry had to hop on a plane back to los angeles i figured he's probably filming something oh yeah man eight is the thursday's on nbc don't forget about how you doing jason i'm doing pretty good hell yeah dude um i should just got off work a little bit ago so where do you work at uh we're gonna pet store in the upper west side oh no shit what

what kind of pets do you specialize in over there uh dogs and cats mainly but we don't have any actual pets there we just basically give out night give out we sell food and things like that oh nice i love that um so you know sun show huh kind of um he was uh he was actually a um friend he was classmate of one of my little cousins when he was in school at stone middle school oh that's amazing so so did you hang out with the guy a few times yeah actually it got to the point where he stopped hanging out with my cousin and ended up hanging out with me quite often so you were creepier than your cousin that's what that means right like sun show was like this cousin of yours is far too normal i think i'm gonna go to crazy jason yeah for those of you who don't who's sung if sung show

doesn't immediately uh ring a bell in your mind this is the guy that killed 32 at virginia tech back in 2007 wounded 17 yeah i mean he he was uh i mean up until recently one of the most prolific spree killers in the history of the world as far as we know at least he was very calm he actually held the record for like the highest kills until some other guy and raise korean did it yeah oh also in korea i think it was korean guy i'm not entirely sure i believe the recorders breviks still anders yeah anders breviks oh no anders breviks yeah he's the one i mean after after sung show and then i think it was uh i think yeah it was anders breviks after that right well sun show definitely put the nail in the coffin for the matrix look no one liked it after that so uh go into your

experiences with uh experiences with uh sun show well when i was uh when i was in high school uh every so often i would go over and i would hang out with my cousins and i would uh basically babysit them until their parents got home because they both worked at the airport um if you don't know where central virginia is it's in northern virginia it's like right outside of dulce airport it's in a odd part of fairfax where it's like it used to be all farms and then they turned it all into like mac mansions and townhouses so you got a lot of people from all over the country who would come in and move there and eventually he was in one of the classes with my cousins i think it was like one of their english classes for people who's originally spoke a second language or something

um anyways he would come over every so often to work on homework with my cousin and afterwards they would just watch tv or something um one day i was what would they watch usually uh just believe it or not a lot of trl oh i believe it yeah that seems about something that would inspire someone to mass shoot yeah carcin daily daisy fuentes who is the yeah this isn't the heyday of that too this is like mid to late 90s oh yeah oh i remember that time mtv is responsible for more death than cancer so what was he like like what was he like as a kid was there ever any indication that he was odd or you know just generally off oh yeah there was a lot of indication that was just off i think that's one of the reasons why i got along with him

are you armed right now no okay no i'm not thank god basically he never talked to anyone and then if he did talk to someone it'd be like halfway through saying something he would just stop talking weird very weird what would he do when he stopped talking when he'd look away or just uh he wouldn't even look at you he would just like stare down in his shoes the whole time or whenever he's talking he'd be looking down in his shoes or he'd be just looking at some other random thing so there's no charm in this fellow whatsoever not really no it basically it was like almost like a walking shell it was the weirdest thing so what was it that made you want to maintain a friendship with him uh he came in he watched me

play resident evil too oh that's a great game i love right that's nemesis i believe right yeah he sat down and watched me play the whole thing all the way through so that was one of the largest um things that the media in my personal opinion and marcus correct me if i'm wrong i believe your personal opinion as well they blew that way out of proportion his love for video games how he played resident evil how he played call of duty as if that somehow was hitting the y button to reload as a hell of a lot more uh a hell of a lot easier than it is to actually reload a real gun yeah so what did you think when you found out that when you heard there was this shooting and you found out that it was this dude that you knew what was your first thought oh my god i'm the guy who gave him half life and

got him into counter strike right i mean and you do wonder is this aiding and abetting a terrorist is this is this providing uh you know you know crucial skills uh to help somebody go and murder a bunch of people you're a felon sir you're a felon well i actually get called terrorist by my friends for a totally different reason why is that i'm slightly off subject we'll get back to uh mr show okay uh basically i'm afghan so that's one of the reason oh that because your friends are racists don't listen to them for the Jesus you're not god now that we know that yeah i love this guy of course sun show was attracted to you he's like oh another person everyone hates at the time in the 90s afghans were like okay those are the guys who make the really good fucking turnovers with

potato inside of them yeah right right yeah that'll change the couple years ago a couple years later people like oh oh no yeah right that did change but i mean but seriously like i mean besides like counter strike like knowing somebody who committed such a heinous act that really just takes like did you say like oh i knew or like did it come as a complete surprise no it came as a total surprise um actually my cousins uh they after he'd start hanging out with me all they did at school is just make fun of them all the time right that's it that's all they do is just make fun of them every day and like poke at them throw food at them and stuff so you would say that he was actually bullied oh yeah quite often yeah and what do you think the the motivation of the bullying is obviously

the community you live in treats you as a terrorist uh so it's probably not very uh kind to him uh uh north of virginia is a very odd area it's a lot of really well off people and also really people who are trying to uh basically get their foot in in america at the same time right yeah well that was if you've ever been there it's that's basically all it is and and there's a huge korean population from there and it's a lot of people who are expats from south korea or it's people who have uh flown in directly from like getting smuggled overseas from north korea right right so i mean it was a similar situation in wisconsin there was a lot of mung uh from vietnam yeah so yeah but so when he committed the shootings did you understand his rationale more than somebody from the outside because we

see him as a monster we see him as somebody who just murdered 32 people injured 17 you know uh others these are college kids these are people who had their entire lives in front of them i mean did you understand a little bit more of his reasons behind it were you slightly more sympathetic i was i was more i there's really no sympathy towards just killing a ton of people just because you want to be seen as like a godlike figure uh and other things i used to talk to him a lot about religion too what was what was some of his thoughts on religion well he was great he was basically his family is like uh korean catholic i think i'm not really sure mm-hmm oh yeah the koreans are big into christianity oh yeah like back in back in way back when uh when the missionaries would

go to south korea in fact during um korean war there was a lot of people converted over to christianity there yeah but um he was really big into it um and i'm a stone cold atheist right and i would start giving my least little plants i'd be like yeah you ever question anything about the bible on things like that then years later he's got like this thing where he's going on diatribe about who he's the new jesus christ and that all of christianity is like hypocritical and how do the how do the friendships stay together uh throughout this entire thing do you feel like you convinced him uh you know into the sort of the atheist lifestyle he wasn't an atheist no he believed himself as like a new version of jesus yeah and his manifesto he said thanks to you i die like jesus christ to

inspire generations of the weak and defenseless people right yeah yeah he saw himself as a christ like figure so you can so you could never convince him otherwise no after a while it's just like i had my my thoughts he had his thoughts i don't ever try to convince people of the other thing right um did you find but did he get angry or uh was he super passionate about his religion uh he would just talk about it and he would just let you start talking and then drop off mid-sentence like in the middle of it didn't matter what i was saying he would always do that this seems super common with what he did i mean marcus can you google what i mean is there any what what is that is that autism did you find him to be like mildly autistic very much so but the time i didn't really even know

what autism was right yeah and no one knows those things that people didn't really diagnose back then yeah you just thought he that guy's weird that guy's socially awkward yeah in fact i think they said it was something to do like he was partially mute was an emotional thing right did not like a i'm sorry no no go on it wasn't like a it wasn't like a physical defect or anything like that it was just he would just stop talking but the community sort of understood this this was a this was a normal like everyone's like yeah that's that's on show he just kind of stops talking mid-sentence that was that was common kind of at the same time it's northern virginia there's no real community it's just people just go to work go to mcdonald's go home pick up some

food go back to work go to school have a few friends are in the neighborhood then go do whatever study go into college yeah that's it there was no real community when it comes to those things people aren't really neighbors there you know and this is really the the deterioration of the small american town and that's what we're dealing with here and this is uh this is like a planned community that's what right that's what centerville was it was a totally planned community from a to z they're like this is gonna be a place we're gonna have people work in dc take 66 to work and take 66 back right and then the neighbors are always uh you know randomly leaving uh un uh you know signed letters on somebody else's front door about their dogs barking too late in

the night and things like that oh yeah yeah there's no there's no community um is there any sort of sign uh that you would say what is there any definitive moment with your hanging out with sun show that you thought he might be able to murder 32 people and injure 17 others no i actually thought of him as more of a pushover you could just like he was made fun of by everyone i'm not kidding when i say like every single person you can think of made fun of him or they just mocked him or they did random shit to him it was just one of those things that it was the guy who got pushed over over and over again you wouldn't expect him to do anything later on i mean we're used to watching movies and reading books about people who are pushed to the breaking point and then they're

like fuck it i'm gonna kill everyone but he was not at that point he was at the point where he was like okay i'll just be meek in the corner over and over again do you think the fact that he was so bullied um do you think that that justifies his actions no jesus christ then who knows it's not it's tough to say no yet yet no it's not all right it's very easy to say all right just asking just as there's no there's no excuse for going in just killing a bunch of people i mean not unless you think that you are living in a movie or something like that and even that's reality versus fantasy there's a huge difference between the two mm-hmm yeah i mean i would assume he felt like he was living in a video game yeah i'd imagine so i mean it sounds like that you were

his i mean it's very possible that you may be the only friend that sung cho had his entire life maybe i have no idea i mean from what i noticed that after after a while i was more or less focusing on graduating from high school and he was just about to get into high school so there's a bit of an age difference there too but i was just studying uh to go over into college or do whatever i was going to do after high school and after that we just had we just didn't talk after that i played against him once in a while on counter strike kicked his ass a few times and that's about it well maybe you should have thrown some games ever think about that maybe 32 people would be alive if you just chose to fucking put the remote down for a goddamn second and let sun show

win a goddamn game jason you caused this whole this whole catastrophe oh god damn it not again all right yeah you're responsible for 32 dead and 17 victims jason thanks so much for calling in hey no problem man talk to you soon hellsade hellsade well this is an incredibly successful listener pasta episode thank you everybody for your submissions we got a lot of scary shit um honestly this the so all the stuff we've got from our military is all scary as shit it's awesome man because these are people whose jobs are to protect us and they're scared yeah what do you do then do you send in the comedians no no no why would you why would you even think about that if ices had to sit through an open

mic they would probably all shoot themselves in the head i think that could work just drop in just just it just started like blasting the desert with live feed from the creek sunday's at four i put four o'clock oh that'd be perfect um thank you guys so much so we're we're fucking slamming balls deep into halloween yeah i'm so fucking excited i'm going to halloween horror nights thank you to people for their suggestions online i'm going to halloween horror nights with my sister jackie's coming to town yeah we're getting tacos and then we're gonna go to i'm gonna get fucking ripped to the fucking eyeballs and go punch some dude dresses beetle juice very fun um all right everyone thanks so much for listening uh hail yourselves magusta lash hunts

someone pointed out that we missed it last week that made me sad and not a halloween of course hail satan thank you satan for your gifts yeah oh hell me oh and if you want to buy a t-shirt go to cavecomedyradio.com slash last podcast on the left and i'm sorry we've heard we have had several people who say that they search some the shirts sometimes smell like cigarettes but guess what that's what we smell like yeah so you're just getting a little window what it's like to stand next to or possibly kiss and hug one of us mm-hmm yep that's closest you're gonna get to kissing me i smell and taste like cigarettes constantly well that's disgusted well all right everyone we'll talk to you soon thanks so much see you in the cancer ward marcus uh yes marcus is gonna die

of lung cancer oh no i'll be killed long before then okay