Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 151: Horrors of the UK

Episode Date: February 17, 2015

We cover a smattering of UK horrors, including Spring Heeled Jack, ghosts of World War I, and the Moors Murders!

There's no place to escape to this is the last time on the left That's when the cannibalism started What is that discovered to annoy people in Atlanta I'm happy you're finding new ways That is annoying travel around the country and they're like oh man went to Atlanta You got to go to this cheesecake place, and you're like I went to Atlanta. I annoyed so many people like this Well, that's the most horrific thing that's gonna happen on today's episode, that's for sure I will say The last night while we were in the middle of shooting the Ferguson riots were getting so intense shut down I-75 and

I was very excited about the idea of walking out of this house on to the street where you could actively hear the Ferguson riots Ripping through the city the city was shutting down, and I am a giant literal white devil Yeah, you're filming your pretty face is going to hell here, right? Yes. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia. Yeah, I love it Yeah, so you could hear Ferguson from Atlanta, Georgia No, they were having their own riot right. We were having a franchise riot. I Know they are franchising out these riots. New York had a fairly successful riot as well Bill Bratt and our police commissioner got doused with fake blood, and I'm gonna say it looked pretty cool It looks pretty cool. It fit him. It did. So what I would which a lot of fun is

With these franchise riots there a lot of times are owned by sort of like an Indian man named like Vahir You know he comes out. He's like what make sure you come and you clean the floor of the riot You know rioters Are there you leave the sesame buns out of their containment? Containment just yeah Because they must be in there or else they get hard as the dickens. Oh, no, you come to the block man It's a good day. If you're in the riot cleanup business, I suppose Let's talk about today's subject. Let's get out of the United States. Let's get out of the race riots Let's go to our to the place where our former queen resides

The UK the United Kingdom the horrors that are living very good in the UK today Yes, and we're gonna do it. We're gonna be covering a crypto We're gonna be covering some hauntings and we're gonna be covering a pair of murders that people have been clamoring for us to cover for a long time We're gonna be covering the Moors murders Mira Hindley and Ian Brady the crypto tiptoe through the tulips If I ever have a child child who has a speech impediment That's what I'm gonna make him say over and over and over the crypto tiptoe through the tulips

And if you are in the UK right now what I say you do is doff your cap Remove your velour cape Take off your many layers of acrylic clothing and also because I've also heard in Victorian times people would wear Underwear with holes in it so they're fucking dick and pussies gonna hang out So they don't through their clothes because there weren't so many clothes because all the clothes is what keeps all the fucking rancid British thinking there Mm-hmm. Take off all of your layers that hide your shameful bodies Spark up a run debauch. I think they called joints over there a rickety Roy. Yep, and Enjoy yourself some horrors of the UK

Well, I don't think they have lumpy bodies or whatever you described them as they're beautiful women in the UK I'm following I think the women are beautiful in the UK. They're absolutely gorgeous. I'm so excited the men However, are very smart They're very smart all right very smart. Well, I like that you described my exact underwear situation I feel very British right now. No holes where there shouldn't be holes I'm on day three of these boxer shorts very good Glue left on my head because my skin is falling off. Yeah, you're sort of like what is it? Meryl Streep and death becomes her. I am I'm becoming that I'm becoming Isabella Rossellini. Yeah

So this first character we're going to Cover is one of my favorite cryptids I've ever read about yep Henry you mentioned the Victorian era and we're gonna start off with a little cryptid that first showed up in the Victorian area He's an evil phantom. He's masked underneath the cloak. He's got fire firey eyes and flaming breath his name Springheeled Jack. Oh spring heel Jack. Yeah, that's the run. Where's the high heels? He'll Jack It sounds like somebody who skips everywhere Spring Hill Jack is somewhere between Tigger and Bill Cosby Can you please not associate Tigger with Bill Cosby?

I'm just saying Spring Hill Jack is a jumping groper You know with giant red eyes that haunted England for many For like three weeks. Yeah. Yep. He's said to wear a black coat a helmet and an oil skin He has red balls of fire for eyes and clawed hands or hands wearing metallic claws Cool witnesses differ. He can breathe white flames of horror and take gigantic leaps hints Springheeled right and during the earliest reports He was said to present himself in three disguises a ghost a devil or a bear Yeah, I mean, I feel like Springheeled Jack just wanted to avoid a lot of puddles

Because it rains a lot in the UK and he's like with any luck. They're gonna treat me like I'm some sort of special crypto Oh, yes, I'm Springheeled Jack. Oh-hoo-hoo Jumpy-doo, pattern of the shoe Can't get any shepherd's pie on my shoes and I jump Oh, I put a sheet over my head and I'm a ghost. I put a rug over my head and I'm a bear Squeezy boobies off I go. The top of my hat That's what he is. That's Spring Hill Jack. He's just a doll a doff of my hat He removes his hat and then he just plays with your nipples like they're radio dials. Oh, I

Like that one. That's this is my kind of guy Well, let's start with the first recorded sightings it goes back to October of 1873 with a miss Mary Stevens who while on her way to lavender Hill through clap ham common worse names Steven's honestly though like for some reason I imagine her is really hot I imagine all wiggly in a loose frock. Mm-hmm definitely Mary Stevens is a very sexually attractive name Yeah, oh, yeah Well, not everyone in the Victorian era dressed in Victorian era clothes a lot of them were horribly poor Okay, so some loose

That's how most people in that's how most common people in England dressed in 1837 Well, I've seen some people on the subway in some really sharp-looking newspaper suits So maybe they did kind of look good. Well, she was attacked by a cloaked figure who first leapt at her then while gripping her Firmly to keep her from wiggling around sexually assaulted her and tore off her clothes as How many things can I get in your belly button? Oh And as the girl screamed in horror the assailant fled from the scene and despite a thorough search

No trace of him was ever found but the very next day Spring Hill Jack was seen in the same neighborhood where he jumped before a coach Causing the coachmen to lose control and have an accident He then gave out a horrific streak of laughter and made his getaway by jumping over a nine foot high wall That is kind of funny though It's a lot nicer than sexually assaulting someone much nicer But the way I imagine him assaulting women is just like slapping her boobies back And forth. Yeah, because you think of everything like a Benny Hill sketch when it comes to the brits

Just fluffing their boobies. It's like, oh, I love how they bounce. All right Stop it you horrible man. I wish you were right Henry So a few months later in february of 18 and 38 he assaulted two more young women He assaulted Jane Alsop who was in her father's house on the night of february 19th When there was a knock at the door and a voice called claiming to be a policeman Asking her to bring a light as he had caught spring hill jack in the lane It's the police certainly not spring hill jack sounds like not something the police would say but And as she opened the door she saw a cloaked figure waiting there

And on handing over the candle to him the man suddenly threw off his cloak Revealing a quote most hideous and frightful appearance And with fiery eyes He spewed blue and white flames onto Jane's face and then tore off her gown and inflicted bloody scratches on her neck and arms with ice cold Metallic claws. I swipe you. I swipe you. I swipe you. I swipe you. I swipe you and away I think he vomited like the worst booze in in london all over her probably as well That's the worst part But jane's sister appeared and jack fled

Next up was lucy scales So how did she get out of this one she just fought him off No, her her sister appeared and jack said away away jack. Okay? You can only handle one at a time. Yeah, so lucy scales on february 28th She was 18 She was returning with her sister from their brother's house in lime house And as they were passing the green dragon alley lucy came across a man in a large coat who unexpectedly Spurred it out blue flame onto her face disabling her sight and triggering and triggering

Violent seizures which lasted for hours Crazy, and then he sexually assaulted her as well. No, he just spit shit in her face and ran off. What does this guy up to? lucy scales, uh Did not really a fit a spring-heeled jacks a level of attractiveness. Yeah, I think he's got it all wrong I mean he has he has a cantaloupe in a satchel and he lifts it up and if her breasts are not the size of the cantaloupe Then he he only burns them with the seizure flames. Let him go and he jumps he jumps into the sky What is this stuff? Oh, son in august of 1877 Uh a few years later

Actually got a few decades later Uh at the alder shot barracks in north camp central road a century came across a strange figure Who advanced towards him and slapped him several times across the face Spring hill jack, what did you get a slippery slap slap slap slap and away you go In the garden shot at him, but to no avail and the figure then disappeared with astounding leaps Hence the spring hill jack connection Stick this back a spring hill jack try to catch him. You'll always fail gibberish jump

This guy just getting away like that constantly with the jumps It can't be the fastest way to move. I just think this is a crackhead After a while it just it just sounds like a guy on pcp. Definitely Uh spring hill jack, he disappeared for centuries. He was gone for or at least uh reports of him disappeared for centuries Because i'm sure not every encounter with spring hill jack was reported to the bobby. Oh, absolutely not. Yeah All those under reported spring hill jack cases. Man, we could go on and on about those Spring hill jack just like went on to just put on to record successful like flute albums Just like yeah, spring hill jack laying on the laying on the sweet british flute

And those albums also never made it out I think they're successful. That sounds great. And if you can jump and play the flute, you got something That's a real show Yeah, uh, yeah all the dude from jethro tall could fucking manage to just stand on one leg And they beat metallica out for a most rock and roll album of the year that they did promises that he would keep uh You know, they would get him into the studios and he would they would set up all the mics And he'd be sitting there all nice and they're like you ready. Um, so uh, are you ready to go jack? You ready to go?

He's just like i'm ready to record It's like okay, so um, we're just gonna come in there. We're gonna do a little adjustments of level Slippity slap spring hill jack at a way down No recording studio could hold me. I'm spring hill jack Sounds like a very similar charles manson experience there for the poor record producer Yeah, I think charles manson and spring hill jack recorded much the same So in the 1920s, that's when spring hill jack returns One woman said jack appeared to her in an alleyway and shot a beam of light from his chest blinding her

And the man in the same alley said he sprung away like a bird taking flight And then another account tells of him attacking police and the policemen spitting a luminous gas in their faces Cool. He sounds like a iron man or something It just sounds like yeah, he's lighting his incredibly alcoholic ridden fucking burps on fire. Yeah And he doesn't show up again for another few decades He shows up in the 1970s where the inhabitants of addercliffe in cheffield Complained about a red-eyed figure who punched women This guy, he's everyone's drunk uncle

He's just a a combination of everybody's drunk uncle and they made up one story to kind of like, you know What's uncle larry like? He's like spring hill jack It's just like in in in england you had like two types of people you have Winston Churchill's and you have a spring hill jack and that's it They're either like sexless old, you know, like, you know, kind of don't even think about it Do say witticisms and sip on brandy or they're fucking rapists But the reason why this was a sp- the man who punched women the reason why there was a spring hill jack connection there As big as he was rumored to jump between rooftops and walk down the sides of walls

Cool And in south herford chair a salesman named marshal had encountered in 1986 Now this was the guy who started the original marshals Which is also important to remember for the rest of the story So he's trustworthy. Yes, he's very trustworthy He encountered a man who took gigantic, gigantic leaps and slapped him on the road Jumpy jump, jump jump jump. Oh, where you going? What's your name? My name's marshal. Oh marshal so lovely to meet you. Tell me. Um, I was wondering so you work at a sharp ride

What do you think of this cloak? Do you like it? I think it's fine Thank you. Slippity slap There he goes Off again He doesn't really seem to do much other than that, huh? Slippity slap. There I go. That's spring hill jack He's gonna chill. He's gonna randomly punch us people Though in west surrey mini school going children reported seeing a man who was all black with red eyes Who could run as fast as a car? Cool. Spring hill jack just like fucking pound and crack in an alleyway

It's like so spring hill jack's feeling kind of low energy better get my jumping rock going Spring hill jack's feeling good He is back. I think yeah, junk jumping rock is my favorite thing. Uh, favorite name for crack. Okay. It's the jumping rock kind of fun spring hill jack has survived until Today in february of 2012 Scott martin and his family were traveling in a taxi when they saw a dark figure Skitter across the street and climb a roadside bank in seconds near nescott college and you will bypass

That seems like skittering these are british people being racist. Yeah, that's a skitter not a jump I'm not going to give that to jack. Well, he skittered across the road. Yeah, but I never heard of jack skittering so far And well, we think Okay, spring hill jack. He's over in the uk. We're safe. That's right here. Yeah That's a big kissle. Henry Zabrowski myself. We're safe from the man. We don't have to worry about spring hill jack We don't let's let them deal with it. Yeah, let them deal with it. However Spring hill jack has been cited in america since night 1892. Oh my what the fuck Yes, you know, it's true if we couldn't stop osama bin lad and how the fuck are we supposed to stop spring hill jack

Yeah, think about it In 1892 about it. Yeah, I'm thinking about it In 1892 a 7 to 12 foot tall phantom dressed all in white with horns on its head Was seen spitting fire in the vicinity of the jail in raymond street Right here in brooklyn new york. This is 1892 1892. Well, that was just the first rave that had ever happened in brook Quiet rave with one man at it I just also was imagining spring hill jack on the plane coming over to do 9 11 like on like coming from la and him Just like literally being like, uh, so when do I pounce on the pilot and I do my

I crawl and I sneak in between the chairs and then I spring into the cockpit and I slippery slap slippery slap and away I go Oh, uh, mr. Jack, uh, we appreciate your hate for America. We appreciate your energy You're really inspiring all the rest of us, but uh, it We are going to have to shoot you in the head, right guys. Yeah. Yeah, I agree because you're ruining all the shit Yeah, you can't have spring hill jack taking credit for 9 11 There's no way that would go down nearly as well as it went down after what though. He's a He's a he's a liability. He's not a planner. No. No, he's a jumper. Yeah Erratic is what they call them

Uh, and a few years later Uh, at exactly 11 55 p.m. Out in long island. Whoa mind you this guy's very regional to us every night A specter appears at the churchyard jumping to and fro trying to read inscriptions on the tombstones And when the clock strikes 12 the ghost positions himself atop a stone spurts out 12 fireballs no more no less What a shitty afterlife this ghost has five minutes of jumping around not being able to read gravestones because he never got that education Yeah, and then he just has to go vomit on top of one 12 times He's too ripped on jumping rock and he goes up to like fuck it. He's like, excuse me Gino So I hear this island is pretty long long island. Haha. I'm also referred to as strong island

I see your arms very big very strong. I'll take a calzone, please. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah. I won't get you What's what's your name? Because we look for my name is jack Jack All right, buddy. We're gonna pepperoni calzone. He's like, thank you so much for the calzone a slippery slap no charge for me Yeah, that's the worst thing about him stealing calzones from local italian eateries. It's not right spring hill jack Well as far as an explanations go there are many different options as far as how to explain spring hill jack Many skeptics dismiss the phenomenon as just mass hysteria or an exaggeration of the activities Of an irish nobleman named the marquee of waterford. They're blaming it on a drunk irish man

That's the explanation that the officials are giving He had previously had bad experiences with women and cops This is my thing. I don't think the irish are necessarily known for their vertical leaps. No, they are very well grounded Well, what uh national or what a heritage does larry bird have larry bird? He looks very irish. Oh the basketball the last great white basketball player 30 years ago Though he was seven feet tall When you shoot from far away from the hoop. He was not a physical player Yeah, that's the thing white people have a different kind of way of playing basketball

And we can only be good if we fall backwards weird and can still shoot Like that's all the white people are able to do and then everyone's just like I don't know how to defend that He's just falling backwards all odd call it fade away my friend fade away. Yeah, that's all we have Well, there are other paranormal Explanations for spring hill jack some of them say that he's a phantom a ghost possibly a demon But some say that he is an extraterrestrial being from a high gravity world Which enables him to make the enormous jumps that he does Okay, he's just the first scientist to invent meth alone in his lab

Well We're done. I miss spring hill jack already. I know I love spring hill jack I love the idea of just bouncing around just bouncing away from a crime scene of slappy slap jumping here and there and everywhere Oh, yeah, he's grabbing boobies at a heat. Okay. Look at it spring hill jack That's from the gummy bears. Yeah, was it the gummy bears theme song? Yes Let's move to world war one. Oh, this is where it's gotta get more serious. Yikes And we're covering world war one not because Uh battles took place in world war one because there weren't really battles on the british mainland in world war one

Uh, but one million british citizens did die in world war one and they did have many ghostly experiences On the battlegrounds now to really give you a picture of how How terrible world war one was It you didn't even have to be in battle to die During world war one during the time like, you know up until 1965 You could die from getting you know, like tripping over a horse like a horse hoof on the street Like that's a horseshoe up there and a carriage run over your head Like that's things were really intense for a long time people just died from wearing wool too long

Yeah. Yeah, and that's true. I mean the rats numbered in the millions in the trenches in the trench warfare See what trench warfare was is uh, I mean, it's exactly what it sounds like these different armies would dig these huge miles long trenches in which there would be uh miles of uh barbed wire in between the two enemy trenches and of course snipers on either end They were infested with millions of rats. They would have two types the brown rat and the black rat Uh, the brown rat was especially feared because it would gorge himself on human Remains by eating their eyes and the liver specifically and they could grow to the size of a fucking cat. They're classy That liver trenches is just another word for future grave Which I think really ended up happening in a lot of times

Yeah, of course and a lot of guys would die on their very first day because they were of course very curious as to what was going on On the other side of the trench. Oh, let me just oh, right. I am just terribly sick of laying on the stretch Maybe I'll just maybe have a constitutional a bit of a walk around Mostly just a sniper shot right to the head. Yeah. Yeah, they would have snipers constantly Uh working out this shit and that's where the uh, uh people say that it's uh bad luck to light three cigarettes to one match Comes from world war one where snipers light was there to light was there and yeah And snipers would look out for the lights and if they saw that those three flames boom all three fuckers are dead That's where you got to be a chewing tobacco guy

So then they would get shot in the arm or the leg or wherever and then the mice would just come and start burrowing up into their Wounds and things and lice was also a huge problem. They caused trench fever Which is a particularly painful disease that began with severe pain. I thought that was a dance hit Yeah, I remember the trench fever. You don't you just do it all on your tummy You just wiggle kind of on the ground face face forward the ground They would get be severe famed paul by high fever Recovery would take up to 12 weeks and lice wasn't actually identified as the culprit of trench fever until 1918 So as far as they knew ghost caused it they had no idea what was going on with their main their main cause for

For the disease was spring you'll check the balancing epitome of the trenches make a this is gross There's bugs everywhere a slippery slap trench fever Lice I mean it's just crazy what they got taken down by something that Infests a sixth grade classroom, you know, you really think of lice as being life-threatening well that back in the day It was that's how the bubonic plague was it was lice and fleas that spread the bubonic plague throughout europe But that's a whole different episode. Yeah, if you like that if you want to know more about the bubonic bubonic plague I highly recommend the book the great mortality. It's a fantastic history. Go check it out and it's fucking brutal

Frogs were also a huge problem frogs would fill the trenches slugs and horned beetles would Constantly be filling these trenches So these trenches were truly if you could consider if you had to imagine any time in history where we truly had Hell on earth it was the trenches of world war one particularly in the battle of somme Was truly hell on earth. I tell you if these soldiers wanted to fight their war comfortably They would have fought their war from the holiday in express. They've got comfortable beds friendly staff They'll pick up the foot you could call anytime be like I need a hot towel. I need hey I will say this about 20,000 shells

I will say this about most holiday in express is that I have been to covered in lice So that is that is a similarity between a holiday in express and a trench And you get free breakfast Continental my friend. Yeah, I love a continental breakfast runny scrambled eggs and hard business you go to some of these places If they have their make your own waffle That's the type of place that you want to spray mustard gas from Oh my god. Yeah. Well, you're making your own waffle. I love making my own waffle. Yeah, I love it too Well as far as battlefield hauntings go the biggest one as far as the british soldiers were concerned was the angel of mons

The angel of mons was thought to have saved Retreating french and british soldiers during the battle of mons in belgium now belgium is one of the big reasons Why a lot of these people got in world war one world war one is a horribly complicated thing, but belgium Uh, the german soldiers committed horrible atrocities in belgium. Uh, there was something called I just remember the balkan powder keg from high school history. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the balkan powder the black hand Yeah, the black hand france ferdinand all that type of stuff I mean you can go into the ottoman empire and go to all sorts of trees and all kinds of shit But belgium and belgium is where a lot of horrible things happen

Including the rape of belgium much like the rape of nang king the rape of belgium this what belgium This was uh committed by the germans Six thousand belgian civilians were killed and nuns were ordered to strip naked under the pretext that they were spies Well, were they all was it tony clifton? Wait, was tony clifton the only fucking person running working in the german army? It did sound to seem like for a second when you said the belgium the rape of belgium I just mentioned there. It was just more like them like, you know tussling their hair and like Changing the time on their fancy clocks

I'm also thinking of their waffles international continental breakfast Another atrocity was that of the crucified soldier in which canadian soldiers wounded at ypres Had told how one of their officers had been crucified to a wall By bayonets thrust through his hands and feet before having another bayonet driven through his throat And finally riddled with bullets This all these atrocities this really cemented in the british and french people's minds That a christian god would intervene directly against such an evil enemy as the hun For everybody hated the hun at this point

Yeah, and they blamed germany for starting the world war of course and that goes into the whole reparations thing Lead up to world war two But we're gonna get to that at a different episode when we cover hitler and the occult They really took a lot of time killing one guy Yeah, you know get on with it. So of course the british had this extreme belief that god was on their side The christian god was on their side and would come to save them. So during the battle of mons These soldiers they saw these huge visions of Ancient archers coming to their to their aid angels coming through and chasing the germans away

But skeptics say that the visions were due to intense stress fear and pain Right, uh, but some uh, this uh A latest and most detailed examination of the mons story suggests that these men may have been part of a covert attempt By military intelligence to spread morale boosting propaganda and disinformation So it could be that they told these soldiers like hey fucker uh mons telling me saw an angel I think if we actually saw what was what was going on there There would just be a bunch of soldiers kissing frogs and thinking they're women Rubbing beetles all over their body heads turning into turkeys

Yeah, like in looney tunes Like every cartoon stuck on a desert island. Uh, so so listeners anybody in the military if you want to confirm words I know this I hear that our Military is also starting to do the same sort of morale boosting propaganda by having soldiers dress up as spider-man Oh, I like that and fight up in the front and they think that spider-man is fighting with us And then we saw as afraid then we saw 15 kim kardashian butts going to fight isis And we knew god was on our side All right, well our last the last thing we're gonna cover today as far as our horrors of the uk episode is some of the most brutal murders that england ever saw

The moors murders. Are we talking about princess diana? No, that wasn't really brutal. That was it. Yeah, that was just paparazzi killed her Now that was talking about covert assassinations Yeah, because of her bloodline And what their child was going to do the combination of I don't want to call him necessarily iranian iguanian Or it's possible that princess diana refused to uh participate in occult ceremonies and because she refused to participate in them That's why she was killed all true

All at the same time Yeah, all true So the moors murders were carried out by a couple of lovers called eam brady and mera hindley between july 1963 and october 1965 in and around what is now manchester in england the victims were five children between the ages of 10 and 17 They were pauline reid john killbride keith benet leslie and downy and edward evans at least four of whom who were sexually assaulted We're gonna see a lot more in in in the uk There shouldn't be a lot more couple murderers than there are in america

Yeah, it's really strange how that works out, but there are quite a few in the uk The murders were called the moors murders because the victims were discovering graves dug on Saddleworth moor and a third grave was discovered on the moor in 1987 more than 20 years after their trial in 1966 But the body of the fourth victim keith benet Is definitely has never been found to this day. So let's get a little bit of background on these two idiots Uh, the first guy eam brady. He was born january 2nd 1938 the bastard son of a scottish waitress He was raised by foster parents in goreballs goreballs goreballs

goreballs That's the roughest slum district in glasgow sounds like a gumball company See that's a fun version of goreballs goreballs also sounds like to me sys the girl on the bottom of your balls So goreball. No, come on my goreball popped. I can eat. I gotta get new designer jeans yikes Well, he gained a reputation as a young psychopath who tortured other children and maimed small animals on one occasion Ian dug a deep pit in the graveyard tossed in a cat and then sealed up the opening with a stone because he wanted to see how long it would take for the

Animal to die of starvation. Oh mommy come outside. I made a bit of a science experiment. What I've done here is all right Now follow me mommy. I've taken mr. Mittens. You remember our favorite cat, right? I just I fucking buried him down the ground And I put a beo stony stone on top of him because I just want to see um if I can make a ghost I don't like that. He's swore. I'm just gonna say I don't care what happened to the cat But no kid of mine should be swearing like that So when he was a teenager like many many many serial killers that we've covered before He was arrested a number of times for uh breaking into houses drunk and disorderly and theft

He was an alcoholic uh and a lifelong thief uh, and he but get he's one of those guys Uh, he's not a dullard like our your gary ridgeway Uh, he had a little bit of cleverness to him. He was what you'd call like a pseudo intellectual A guy that reads a whole bunch of fancy clever books and then decides That he's smarter than everyone else in the entire world and decides that he's a superiority killer How long do you take the cat to die? That's what I want to know I how long does it take a cat to starve to death? I don't know Well, there's a graveyard around here in a shovel. We can fucking figure it out then

The last podcast on the left science experiment The thing about science experiments is they need to be repeated in order to confirm the results Right, right So in he began a period of worship for hitler and other high-ranking nazi officials His library included the history of torture through the ages sex crimes and sex criminals The life and ideas of marquis de saude the nuremberg diary A biography on hindrick kimmler the kiss of the whip and sexual anomalies and perversions Uh, that sounds like my library

Or mine either one Kiss of the lips I have so many I have may I definitely have the life and ideas of marquis de saude Oh, yeah, um, you have history of torture through the ages of something something like that. Oh, yeah, man I've got one called uh execution Uh, I think it's like 64 ways to put a man to death Uh and uh various other, you know tomes and volumes that you know, well Maybe just want to see somebody who is going around door to door like iron maiden salesmen be like and there's more ways

number 62 stand up on their head So mirah hindley, uh, she was a bit of a dullard as we say loved animals children and brightly colored lipstick Uh, those are the signs of someone who is dull My question is that she like wearing a lipstick or did she like eating the lipstick? I think she like putting the lipstick on cats Preferably dead ones. So that's where the relationship really blossoms Hey, look, it's a lady. I know it's got penis, but it's a little like it's got lipstick on it makes it a lady God, I love you, baby

So hindley's father he fought in north africa and cyprus and italy during the second world world war He served in the parachute regiment and he had a reputation for being a hard man And he expected his daughter to be equally tough, of course He taught her how to fight and she insisted that she always stick up for herself And if she didn't fight back in any physical altercation, he would beat her with a strip of leather So she was a bit of a tough gal 17 you know what honestly, this is This is what we're talking about when we talk about equality

You know teacher understand for herself There'll be a lot less cat callers if everyone was a myra hindley Yeah, if everyone was a violent psychopath the cat column would go away immediately I'm not sure About the theory, but it is definitely technically a theory. Yep at 17 She took judo lessons once a week at a local school But partners didn't ever want to fight her uh or train with her because she was often slow to release her grip She also wanted to quit when she found out it wasn't spelled j e w d o

Oh, yeah I thought I was gonna be wrestling jews She became uh fascinated with bretwell At 18 she fell in love with the dark and brooding brady Who she met while brady was working as a stock clerk at a chemical company where they both were employed Called mill words in west gorton This smells like farty pants That's all I meant the whole place

It just smells like pants that you've been traveling in for nine hours And you fart man because you fucking ate a filly cheesesteak for breakfast and you're hung over I'll never forget what I saw him be stocking shelves and the chemical plant in gorewood Now west gorton gorton if any of our u.k If any of our uk listeners out there have been to or live in west gorton Go to the facebook page. Let us know what west gorton is all about and what does it smell like what the beaches are like? Yeah Where are the hip boutiques? Do they have any vegan restaurants?

So mira she became fascinated with brady who read uh mine comp fund his lunch break and wore black shirts every day I used to work with this guy at the strand You know like I know this guy Yeah sits around like holding mine comp up like looking around just being like I understand that he's he had a hard time in jail And he wrote a book But of course she thought that he was very clever because he read it in the original german So uh their first date was to the cinema to see the trial at nuremberg This is such a romantic story

Like this is crazy. You never meet somebody that actually likes all your really fucked up stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's really hard He seduced her on the way home to her grandmother's house taking her virginity on the first date Nothing gets a girl wetter than watching the trials of nuremberg Their dates together followed, you know the similar pattern. I mean your grandfather met your grandmother at the trial at nuremberg, right? Oh, excuse me. You're talking to me. Henry. Are you talking to mark? Yeah. Yeah. No, yeah Yeah, they met They just immediately got married and rice was thrown at him as he exited to the courtroom a free man So that would that would pretty much be their dates they go to the movies usually to watch porno film

And then they go back to henley's house to watch or to drink german wine It sounds pretty great minus the fucking mass mass murder. Well, I mean they were both nazis. Ah, yeah right Nazi about each other So uh miras really started to get into the nazi stuff She started to idolize a woman named ermah gressa Who uh, she was a concentration camp guard that the british army nicknamed alternately the female beast of belzin And the hyena of auschwitz because she would alternate between those two camps

I want to make a real quick detour to this woman her favorite actor ermah gressa Her favorite activities including shooting prisoners and cold blood feeding them to to her half-starved dogs Personally choosing people for the gas chambers and stomping women to death with their big black boots and incidentally Also, she was she loved window shopping And uh, she loved down to nabby. Oh, that's a great show And just like ian and mirah. She had a in a relationship with another nazi psychopath She was a lover of joseph mengala. You have to be so how evil do you have to be because you know It's like when you're a comedian or someone's like you want to date somebody as funny as you

You want to date someone as successful as you or someone who like equal to you you are Joseph mengala is just like i've an only date I'm and i'm so hot for me to get set up with anybody because she's got to be a real fucking evil bitch You know what i'm saying? Oh, yeah Like i mean fucking straight fucking the evilest bitch that there is ever been uh, and you i mean you bring it you brought me When you brought me gretel and i told her hey gretel How about if we go on a date and we sprinkle a dog together and then she said no and then i had to fucking kill her All right, that's not how i need a date i need an equal let's me ask you have you met irma?

Oh, i heard she's a straight fucking devil Well, let's uh see if you two hit it off you know it's before tinder you know it's difficult to find love I hear she's going to be at the ovens this evening Oof i was oh it's so great because i got great box seats at the ovens i'm sitting next to have you met iven kissle as well He is a hilarious dude He is always making crazy fucking comments about how they virgle when when the gas comes into the room Yeah, yeah, you never know what the jokes were but they had to be pretty dark i'm sure

So this girl she was 22 when she was executed for crimes against humanity so she was executed Yeah, oh, yeah, she was and she was one of the few people who never showed Any remorse for her crimes and in fact the night before she was executed her and a couple of female inmates Just sang german folk songs all night long Huh like this was one dedicated nazi, uh, and she had been yeah, she had been torturing, uh Jewish prisoners from the time she was a teenager. So this was a true fucking cycle I'm not i'm not trying to be like really like fucked up But she's a little cute. Yeah, really cute. Yeah, she's i'm looking at her right now. She's like she's kind of thick

Yeah in a good way Yeah, yeah, man. Yeah, she's pretty cute You know usually mel Gibson was drunk and pulled over when he was saying statements like that henry But uh, I just want to make it clear you were sober right now Well, I don't I don't know dude. I'm actually looking at a picture right now that woman has a fucking Forehead on all right. I'm gonna be the deciding vote on this one. Holy christ. Jesus. My balls have gone into my chest My dick is terrified. No, she's she is a ball stomper She's got a nice smile the one thing that's making me only smiles when she's she's only smiles when she's covered in blood

And as soon as the gas no, he starts all that chew blood all over her forehead and that that is a turnoff Yeah, because you wanted to smile like charlie chaplin It's like I like it when I hear him get crispy Terrible strong german woman though Oh, yeah, that is one. That's german with a capital g right there. Yeah, don't mess with those chicks, man Germans are fucking brutes, dude. They are big nasty brutes No, they're delicate a lot of them are delicate sweet and nice That is not many very nice german people. They're they're amazingly kind german people

I've been to germany though and the the big ones are the meat. They're tough Oh, yeah, I wouldn't measure them but god damn the women beautiful I kind of want to be because like but then there's a part of me that just wants to be Be fucking hoisted up and lifted like a baby my big german woman and ever wash me in a tub Yeah, exactly. I mean that that's that's the other side of them. You know god nice big full gals Oh, yeah All right, so handling yeah, mera hindley

This woman would full-on nazi. She dyed her hair blonde She started to wear black leather boots started dressing real sexy all the time and okay and about mera I hear something that you really hear this is something that we really heard in the more zealous members of the manson family She grew up with really intense religious beliefs a super devoted catholic But as soon as she's with brady much like the manson followers She immediately denounced god and was completely enthralled by his pseudo intellectual rants type of things we talk about This is what she said about brady. She said Within months he convinced me there was no god at all

He would have told me that the earth was flat the moon was made of green cheese and the sun rose in the west I would have believed him such was his power of persuasion his softly convincing means of speech which fascinated me Because I could never fully comprehend only brows at the odd sentence here and there Believing it to be the gospel truth Where'd this cheese thing start with this whole moon cheese thing has always gotten to me. I never understood why people thought it could be cheese Anyway, people have imagination span. I was calling bullshit. We were born practical I was calling bullshit on the cheese moon ever since I was a child. I knew it wasn't cheese. It's impossible So first their antics were relatively harmless. They would pose for picture for pictures in front of brady's automatic camera

They would have hoods. They would have whips. They even included uh mirrors dog who ironically was named puppet It's kind of fun. Yeah Real fun real little pet dog named puppet. Yeah, and brady Yeah, and brady he tried to sell the pictures, but not a single person was interested in the marginally attractive henley Uh, oh, he wanted to sell him uh for sexual reasons. He was trying to make smut out of him He was trying to make some smut and no one was buying No, oh sad is that if you have your You and your girl for a naked like a sex film and you're just like hey, so I got a tape you want it and the number's like

Not for us. No, no can do. Oh, that's a slap in the face. Henley was a big hip woman. Sure Yeah, I some might say pear shape Yeah, I mean I'm just you know if you're gonna make a sex tape and you're trying to sell it You better be sure that you're making that sex tape with someone who can sell Let's just say she wasn't hitler's ideal. No, it doesn't sound like it So the couple have been seeing each other for about two months before ian moved into henley's grandmother's home And less than a month later the first victim would be dead Yikes first victim pauline reed on july 12th

Mira drove drove her minivan while brady followed her on his motorcycle and by the way It took mira three times to pass her driving test Yeah Which one's the which one's the turning knob? Which one is it the big one in france? One around frania It's in frania. I can't be doing this So mira's job was to pick up a female hitchhiker

Which she found in 16 year old pauline reed who was a friend of her younger sister maureen And mira told pauline that she was on her way out to the moors and moors if you don't know what those are They're bleak windy grassy expanses of essentially useless wasteland beautiful Absolutely a lot of the uk is moors, right? Yeah a lot well northern uk a lot of northern uk is moors So it's like our long island Something like that. Yeah, uh, I would say it's maybe closer to uh grasslands Oh, maybe like maybe like the midwest but with a lot of hills green beautiful like york sure manchester a lot of that Those are those are a lot of moors beautiful places. Oh, yeah, absolutely beautiful

And mira told pauline that she had lost an expensive glove out on the moors And she was wondering if pauline would help her find it and mira said hey if you help me find my glove I'ma give you a bunch of records mean sounds like when you beat a video game and but you're like I still want to play it. What's the other mission that I haven't done go find dipshit's glove in the field Sounds awful like the end of borderlands or something. It's a fetch mission. Yeah, it sucks So the moors brady who had been discreetly following the duo in his motorcycle attacked pauline Rape her and cut her throat Jesus and while mira claims that she stayed in the van as the crimes took place

brady maintains that mira also committed sexual acts on pauline and afterwards They buried her body on the moor and then when they returned to town They passed by pauline's mother who was already out looking for her missing daughter. Would they say anything to her? Or they just saw her they didn't say nothing to her. They just say like oh look. She's looking for not gonna find her Hey, hey, hey you want to buy some smut? We got piles of smut nobody nobody's buying it as pauline's mother don't bother I think opportunity baby, you know You know, I'm a business man

What are we gonna do with all this smut? So the next victim was john kill bride. He was killed on november 23rd 1963 He was 12 years old They picked him up telling him that his mother would be worried. He was out so late. Come on I'll give you a ride home. But then she told him. Hey, listen, johnny. I got a bottle of sherry back at my place Why don't we go drink some of that johnny? It was like, okay. Yeah, let's go This is what happens when you let kids drink wine by the time they're two years old This european stuff man

Then on the way to the house to sit. Oh, no, wait. I lost my glove out on another glove mission Another thing my come on lose a shoe I happened to lost my I lost my um It's not my shoe. It's what's the top shoe It's a glove Hat Hat my my hand hat You lost a glove. Okay. I'll help you find your glove. That's let's move on. So, uh,

Brady, uh, of course was out there waiting He raped the boy and strangled him with a shoelace after he found his knife was too dull to cut through john's throat Sawed at it and saw that he saw that right and then took the shoelace off of his shoes and strangled the boy Uh, and police would later find the boy's body by identifying landmarks and a picture of Mira posing at the grave with her dog puppet who incidentally died in police custody And uh, when Mira found out that the police the dog that puppet had died in police custody It was one of the only times she ever showed any emotion

Uh, because like hitler Mira also loved her puppies. Sure. Sure. There's something about those not seasoned puppies Like in the bunker, uh, when they were all when they were shutting down the bunker when they were closing up for good They got the sweetest death is his two schnauzers. They literally like got, uh, they got fed like a boy A very gentle poison and they were like they died in their sleep But everyone else got shot in the fucking face. Yeah, they were named uh one of them was named blondie The creepiest thing is when somebody dies and they have all their dogs euthanized to be buried with them You ever hear those you can do that? Yeah, you can do that You can yeah, it happens and it happens every now and again. It might be a stay-by-stay-at issue

Well, I can't wait till I die and ben and marcus are euthanized to be buried with me. You're not a pharaoh So we can do whoever dies first in the afterlife. We have to make a pact right now guys whoever dies first We must both kill each other. Oh, yeah, definitely Yeah, yeah, oh, yeah I mean, oh man, that'll be great. I mean, I was thinking we could just you know be replaced Oh, yeah, they have a nice funeral for the person who died remember their life and stuff Yeah, I don't know and then get a new co-host and the show goes on. Well, what's the point of living, you know If one of us dies, what's the point of going on?

So next on the kill list is another 20 years another 12 year old boy keith Bennett Uh, Hindley lured him into his minivan, which brady was already sitting in the back of by asking the boy's help and loading up some boxes After which she would drive him home because the old buffalo bill Yeah, and she drove to a lay-by on saddle worth more where she and brady had previously arranged brady went off with bennett Supposedly looking for a lost glove. I hate this glove It's my glove. I just you know, it's hold on to a glove. I I'm lucky. I got my shoes on How often I lose my glove. It's insane So hindley kept watch and after about 30 minutes

Uh brady came back alone and carrying a shovel that he had left there earlier in preparation for the murder And when hindley asked how he'd killed bennett, uh brady said they of course he Raped the boy and then strangled him with a piece of string. It's a thing with between the string and the other thing It just sounds like they're they're killing them as if they were like the mice that hang out with cinderella Like it's all weird tiny things Those shoelaces and strings and they're still having sex with each other this whole time He's always banging all these young boys and whatnot. It's it's a lot god. They're having just brutal sex the entire time

Uh and this kid was actually the only body to never be found Uh years and years later in the 80s after these people were already caught Uh hindley made the first of two visits to try to find the boy's body Four police cars took this woman out at 4 30 a.m. Police closed all the roads on the moor It was patrolled by 200 officers and 40 of them were armed and hindley came in with her lawyer By helicopter and touched down at 8 30 and hindley wearing a donkey jacket and a balaclava Damn, she's like Kanye, but you know the bright side of that story is they did find a glove So that was really something special. She was looking for that glove all this time. My god damn glove

It's it was never a lie They could have just found the glove in the first place. No one would have had to die Uh so frustrated they can't find these fucking gloves and then you're hard because you're frustrated And then you're raping next thing now you're raping next thing now you're killing. Yeah, no one's got shoelaces anymore real slippery slope Yeah, uh, so uh, she went out there and of course, but after searching for hours and hours They found absolutely nothing uh and the press criticized the fuck out of them They said that it was a fiasco a publicity stunt in a mindless waste of money And the official search for the body wouldn't end until 2009 and never been found still never been found

They never found the body. Good. Yeah, so a year and a half later on december 26 1965 on boxing day No less the deadly pair kidnapped 10 year old leslie and downy from a nearby fairgrounds They found her just standing unattended by one of the rides They walked up to her they deliberately dropped some of the uh shopping that they were carrying And they said hey listen little girl. We can't carry all this. Could you help us take this to the van? And of course little girl. I'm sorry far too many boxes of gloves Can you possibly help me take them to the court you one can't possibly have enough gloves And in his what is most possibly their what is definitely their cruelest murder they took her back to the house

Uh where brady set up a light in a camera and forced the girl to pose for uh illicit photographs And then he turned on a tape recorder to capture a police for mercy and uh he raped her for 13 minutes Uh and henley, what do you know it was 13 minutes? Because they played the tape in court Yeah, uh and that tape that they played in court that would cement their reputation as england's boogie men For years and years to come. I mean they would in in england Uh my ex-girlfriend who grew up in yorkshire in the moors. Uh she her uh parents would tell her When she was being bad if you're bad uh mere henley will come and get you crazy

Like they were actual boogie men that people would use to scare their children Whereas when we were kids if you would have told us that jeffrey dommer was gonna come and guess fucking cool Yeah So henley she maintains That she went to fill a bath for the little girl and she found the little girl dead when she returns But brady maintains that mira had insisted on killing leslie herself with her own two hands with a two foot length of silk Cor cord which this is fucked up henley would later she used to enjoy playing with the cord in public Just in the secret of knowledge of what it was used for so

I don't mean to ruin our afternoon, but even you just playing with it. The silk cord is creeping me out I'm not into it anymore. I just we've already killed a bunch and so I just need a break I think we should just watch them like cheers or something and just something like have a nice afternoon I just so her she told the cops that natural causes is what killed the 10 year old Well, she said she maintains throughout all this She said that she never participated in any of the murders never participated in any of the raids The only thing she participated in was luring the victims. Oh, okay. Yeah, she said that for years. I don't believe it marcus She's a killer and a rapist. Yes. She is in october of 1965

Brady for some reason or another decided that he wanted to form a gang The one glove gang The one Glovers So he chose as his first member mira's unemployed brother-in-law David smith now smith he was 17 and had a record of violence Which included wounding with intent to harm when he was 11 and he of course had a heavy drinking habit And smith like mira Developed a complete infatuation with brady and the three would drive around the moors and henley's minivan

Just talking about future gang activity, you know, what are we gonna rob? What are we gonna do typical practice target shooting out there because mira was apparently a crack shot She was a part of the rifle club It's sort of like that scene in the movie it where bev is a very good slingshotter. She's very good. I remember that Yeah, it's like it was meant to be bev. It was like that. Yeah Yeah, so brady, he would brag to smith that on what he would brag to smith all the time that he had killed Multiple people and he had buried them on the moors and he had the photographs to prove it He said I've killed three or four and I'll do another one

But I'm not due for another one for two or three months, but it will be done I will say honestly though. It does sort of feel like the very beginning of uh, the police academy movies Yeah, so some months later, uh, mira she woke smith up in the middle of the night Uh, and she said hey, I need you to walk me home and once she was there She lured him inside with a promise of miniature bottles of wine And as dave smith walked inside He found in on the living room floor crouched over 17 year old edward evans Rain and blows down on his head with a hatchet and the pathologist later counted 14 wounds in edward evans head

And during the struggle the screams and shouts by the way, don't forget They still lived with mira's grandmother at this point. Yeah the whole time they were living with mira's grandmother Shouts woke her up and mira went back reassures like hey listen. Everything's fine. We're just having a bit of a fight down here Why don't you go back to bed? And of course the grandmother went back to bed. You saw that with dommer as well When he was killing a dude down in the basement till granny just go back to bed every grandma's go back to bed That's what they do grandma's always go back. Yeah, so grandma's always just go back to bed They never stopped the serial killer right

So after rain and the blows down for a little while uh brady He just remarked he said this one's taking a time to go And he grabbed a cushion and tried to smother evans with it and when that took too long brady Took a length of rope strangled him to death and with the boy finally dad ian said that said that's the messiest one yet Yeah, and the darkest use of the benny hill theme ever They used that to uh sort of underline their whole actions and it was macabre But uh it still fills the annals of british comedy It's like one of the worst scenes of all time. How can't you kill him 14 blows to the head with an axe? Yeah?

I mean that oh a hatchet a hatchet. Yeah, but it's it's a lot. Yeah, it's enough Yeah, it's enough because you have to be a rubber axe and then you're walking in with the fucking with two balloons in front of her tits It's like you have the hatchet you you hit him 14 times in the head and then you're like Oh, I better go with the soft thing that people lie on for comfort Went to the pillow went to the hatchet to the pillow hatchet to pillow to rope No sense whatsoever So uh after he finished with the after he finished killing him smith Or after he finished killing him brady handed smith the the hatchet seemed like feel the weight of it

Which you know, of course ensured smith's fingerprints would cover the axe handle making him implicit in the crime Then the trio mopped and scrubbed the room to remove the blood stains smith naturally Too frightened to refuse because he had just seen the psychopath who he knew was a psychopath Kill a man So he just helped out with it and he even helped brady trust the boy up like a chicken Knees to chin and wrap the boy in plastic before carrying it upstairs to dispose of later And as they carried it upstairs brady quipped eddy's a dead weight And in one of the most British things these people could possibly do

After leaving the body in the vacant room the three then returned downstairs for a cup of tea So as far as capture goes Dave left in the early morning hours and promised to return with a pram to remove the body from the house to the car When he arrived home, he became violently ill and confessed to his wife what had happened Uh, and of course he was terribly afraid of brady So the two waited until daylight They when armed with a knife and a screwdriver made their way to a phone booth called the police So at 840 that happened when he's tried to start a new gang

You can't just bring a dude into the fray if he hasn't been properly fucked and indoctrinated Yeah, you got to be really sure they're super into it Uh, so at 840 that morning a police superintendent that was dressed as a baker's roundsman knocked on the door of the killer's house And when brady opened the door I hope you like pies Oh, you know I love pies brady. Oh, this was gotta Is it a handcuff in it? So when brady opened the door, uh, he immediately identified himself because of course it's a baker. Maybe he's bringing pies

Uh, the superintendent pushed his way past henley or pushed his way past brady to find henley laying on the couch wearing Nothing more than a vest. Oh my in his brady was getting dressed. Uh, he said uh Eddie and I had a row and the situation got out of hand for cops raided brady's house and found the bloody corpse Still wrapped in plastic and searching the residents police found a key to the train to a train station locker In the spine of a prayer book called the garden of the soul that mirrors aunt and uncle had given her For her first communion and inside the train station locker were the pictures and the 13 minute tape Recording of the murder of leslie and dally and I like during this year It's like and during the initial investigation

Yeah, my words said in true nazi form that she was only following orders. Yeah. Yeah in true nazi form That's what she said. Uh, as soon as she got caught. She's like, oh, no, I was under the spell of him I was only following orders. Sorry. It's just kind of funny if you think about a bunch of like bakers doing all of the detective work Yeah, yeah That's a problem. It's like it's like in scotland and in these areas a lot of times It's like how they we used to have like barbers and surgeons. They have people that are like bakers cops teachers Uh policemen senators Yeah

So police search in the house at worldbrook avenue also found an old exercise book in which the name john killbright Had been scribbled and that made them suspicious that, you know, of course, these people Were probably involved in the disappearance of all of these kids They found a big collection of photographs and a lot of them were taken out on the moors and 150 officers Searched the moors looking for looking at locations that maximum photographs And a close neighbor to mira and in who they had for some reason befriended and didn't kill This 11 year old kid named pat hodges Brady and hindley would take him out to the moor and they point out their favorite spots to him

And of course cops went out in october 16th. They found an arm bone sticking out of the peat And officers they thought that they had found the body of john killbright But instead that body was actually leslie and downy Yep, and then the detectives they were able to they found another spot five days later They found the badly decomposed body of john killbright And the search for bodies continued But with winners setting in it was called off in november. I'm too cold It's almost christmas. I gotta do some shopping. Oh my god. Wow. All right. Well, that's the moors murder very interesting

No, not yet. There's still there's more more. Yeah, there's more. There's just a little bit more The trial very interesting david smith He was brought in as a chief prosecution witness, but during the trial It was revealed that he had actually entered into an agreement with a newspaper Guaranteeing him the equivalent of 20,000 pounds that would be about 40,000 dollars in 2014 money for the syndication rights to his story If the murderers were convicted Uh, but the judge called it a gross interference with the course of justice And he smith finally admitted that the newspaper was the news of the world

Which had already paid for a holiday in france for him and his wife And was paying him a regular income of 20 pounds per week as well as accommodating him in a five star hotel It's a crazy and i'm filming a television show and i'm uh, i'm put up in what is probably a horse motel Yeah, it's kind of fun to be there though Oh, yeah, and uh smith of course Uh, despite being the main witness and despite being the guy that turned in uh the mirra and ian He was nationwide pariah for years and years. Yeah, his wife. He got death threats all the time. His wife got death threats Uh, so his life was pretty much over because you know, of course he hang out with these idiots, right?

Yeah, and so the the tape recording of lesley on downy was played in open court Uh, yikes. Yeah, and henley she admitted that her attitude towards the little girl was brusque and cruel Uh, but she claimed that she was only that was only because she was afraid that someone might hear the little kid screaming Uh, and she claimed that when downy was being undressed She was downstairs and when the photos were being taken she was looking out the window Which is one of her biggest hobbies Yeah Yes, so and she said when she uh was the kid was being strangled. She was running a bath

And on may 6 after deliberating for just a little over two hours They found brady guilty of the murders and found henley guilty of the murders of downy and evans And again kind of like manson Uh as the the death penalty for murder had been abolished While the two were being held Uh these people of course got life imprisonment henley died in prison in 2002 from heart failure While brady is still alive and kicking and wrote and released a book in 2001 called the gates of janice serial killing and its analysis

Wow still alive today, huh? It's not badly written. I've read some of it crazy. I mean, it's a lot of Yeah, I mean, it's kind it's a lot of speculation and you know, he's not the worst writer in the world But people in britain were pissed off. Yeah, it's I mean it was it was released by us company And still the profit from it or I doubt it. Yeah, uh, but like the how I did it book. Yeah, exactly Probably better written. Yeah, oh british people are natural storytellers Yeah, and still to this day people this is an extremely sensitive subject at least way up into the 90s in 1997 There was an art exhibition in which someone had done a painting of mirah henley's mugshot And there were protests. Oh really people came out against it very famous

Yeah, her picture that like because you've seen it on the number of uh, she's a pretty infamous character in the world of serial killers And uh, and I'm honestly in terms of female serial killers does them right? Yeah Yeah, she is a full-on She's a trickster. Yeah, she's truly true and to the day to the day she died now never confessed to a single thing Well, she's got nothing on eileen. That's what I always say. No, she does not No one got shit on eileen. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, and we did all of this today in celebration of what is not the official announcement not official a a uh, you know an idea of beginnings of research for when we will possibly be in the uk

Somewhere around the end of march 2015. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that would be very exciting. Oh, yeah in the works right now ladies and gentlemen So not the official announcement, but Working on it working on it. We're working on it working on it. Thanks. So dot the t's and cross the eyes That's right, and I have to learn how to jump and wear a cape Yes, it'll be good. Oh, there's podcasts on the left. I love the podcast But I oh companies come closer. Oh, henry. That's so lovely to meet you. So funny on the show Spickle smacks market tits. Jump away. Spickle check All right, everyone. Thanks so much for listening. Let's do a hail satan. Hail satan and a halking a hail yourselves

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