Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 152: The Dylatov Pass Incident

Episode Date: February 17, 2015

It's one of the 20th century's most enduring mysteries, the Dylatov Pass incident! What killed nine hikers in the Siberian mountains one fateful night in 1959? Was it an avalanche? The KGB? Aliens? In...digenous peoples? Yetis? TINY TORNADOS? Listen to find out.

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Starting point is 00:01:17 that's when the cannibalism started I got to say can that can these Russians just name a pass something nice can it be called like Jefferson pass or Washington pass I'm so sick of these riffy on passes and deal you talk passes that's why these skiers dying I'm dial a tall I love it I'm ready to go Marcus we're ready all right welcome to show that's Marcus Parkes I'm Ben Kessel who's joining us my name is Randy Johnson I'm a professional skier from the heels of Tennessee was a baseball player named after you to the big unit Randy Johnson yeah and I ever see him if I ever see him once in person I'll give him a slap
Starting point is 00:02:08 on his big Jew no Jewish and they'll be rude to do if he was he doesn't tell you I've never seen a bunch of skiers lose their fucking tongues and mouth muscles on a place called like Keith Urban pass the dial and all not Tylenol pass what is this some kind of I ain't got time for this shit dial I gotta go down the Texas Mariners and go find Randy Johnson their original Randy Johnson to pull on this pecker till they make some doorbell noises oh yeah I think you would love that I yeah Keith Urban pass I feel like if you go underneath your pants tighten up and your nuts get bigger he's one of
Starting point is 00:02:52 those guys got big balls and he's letting everybody know oh yeah yeah dial it true yeah well I don't know you can see him if you watch his videos yeah they're hugging up what do you do they hug one of those weird drunk things you do at night is that you sit and watch Keith Urban videos and stare at his fucking notes no no no I've done it stoned I've done it all right dial it off pass welcome to last podcast on the left they know what they're listening to then you have to do the intro if you do not provide the structure of this show people are gonna lose their fucking mind welcome to serial the podcast
Starting point is 00:03:32 everybody loves it I haven't listened to it yet I haven't either I heard it's good all right welcome to the last podcast on the left a far superior podcast every other podcast out there all right Marcus what's today's subject all about today we're talking about the Dilatov pass incident now the reason why we're doing this is because the fucking flimsy reason is because it's cold outside all right that's why we decided to do this topic as if it's cold and we needed a topic and this was that this is the coldest topic we could do oh it's very cold out there miserable well we were gonna do a whole
Starting point is 00:04:05 episode on people freezing to death like the Donner party and the Brazilian soccer team and all them but once I started getting into the Dilatov pass incident I found so much interesting shit this has everything it's got yeti's it's got aliens it's got KGB conspiracies cool weird Russian native Americans I don't know what the term is for a Russian Indian Ukrainian I think so I think that's what it is yeah yeah is the yeti KGB it's possible you'll just have to listen trained by the KGB I don't know if he stayed with the fucking faction right splintered off made some sort of black cop group on their own who
Starting point is 00:04:45 knows with these fucking Russian yeti's I can trust an American Bigfoot I agree I think the yeti what's better Sasquatch yeti your big foot I think we've had the discussion before I say Sasquatch because it sounds like a food I say Sasquatch too all right Sasquatch means wise man of the mountain very good that's the other thing about Dilatov pass is I mean people have been requesting this topic we I've been aware of this topic for a long time it's very icky spooky but the other thing is too is that it's one of those great perfect events for us where it's got everything it's got all the shit and tongues missing big titted
Starting point is 00:05:21 German women oh yes very good an ugly Ukrainian men no leave them alone they're going through a hard time right now so the Dilatov pass incident it's an event that resulted in the death of nine skiers north of the Ural Mountains in Siberia on February 2nd 1959 oh yeah Sonny Bono was not involved then huh Sonny Bono died in an isolated Sonny Bono incident yeah that was much later that was in the 90s so it happened on the east coast of Koliad Siaya and that thing that's good it's beautiful language in that name in the language of the local indigenous monzi tribe means alternatively it means either mountain
Starting point is 00:06:08 of the dead or simply don't go there now this is a thing I said you know ancient peoples have been wrong about a lot of things right you know they've been wrong about like slavery and like don't keep bears as pets but sometimes they're right and sometimes if they name a place like hey don't go there like specifically right hey let's not go there they normally like that's a that's a general direction that's like a hey oh we did go there once and it was it wasn't like the funnel cake stand nope don't go there we made in the town square I love how literal these people are what are you gonna name it everybody died
Starting point is 00:06:50 there don't go there so in January of 1959 23 year old Igor Dilatov you never hear of an Igor skin you don't think so I never thought I feel like this I feel he skis on his knees travels by ski or toboggan I can see the toboggan Igor Igor's travel by ski or toboggan or by or pulling a cart with their own bare hands it's full of fucking bones so he led a group of eight young Soviet hikers comprising of seven men and two women and they were mostly universal university students he led them into the Ural Mountains attempting to reach Mount Horten from a small settlement in Vizhai it was a 350 kilometer long ski
Starting point is 00:07:39 trip and it was meant to commemorate the 21st Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and again again they did this dumb ski trip that they all died on to commemorate the Communist Party and what do we do for America on July 4th we fucking drink beers and have barbecues safely in a park yes well we don't know if they weren't drunk good chance they were loaded when they did all this so all of these travelers they were all very experienced mountaineers this is very important to know later on they were very experienced mountaineers they've a big ski to cross frozen lakes and long stretches of uninhabited areas
Starting point is 00:08:15 just to get to the point in which their bodies were found I thought that was just to get to the supermarket and that was just your store and repair their freshly used Bjorgs exactly I love that Bjorg store where'd you get your new Bjorg at the Bjorg store yes I went to the 4th Bjorg store on the corner of York Street and Bjorn Avenue God I got to get a new Borg Bjorg Jesus so the Yorkie can I ask one question uh-huh what's technically is Bjorg it's a bread so there was only one member of this expedition that survived this guy named Yuri Eudon and he got sick before the crew made it
Starting point is 00:09:02 fully into the back country and he stayed behind at the village where all these people were last seen alive and in later interviews he remembered a conversation between one of the local men and Igor Dilatov he didn't catch the entire conversation but it seemed like to him that the local was trying to warn Dilatov about something don't go there if anybody over 60 tell you to go somewhere in a town that you have never been to before don't go there don't go there don't go there it cuz it's same cuz if they liked it if it was super boring and they liked it which is what these people like to go skiing as a
Starting point is 00:09:41 fucking habit or whatever I don't know I understand people who ski they'd be there if it was nice they would be there yeah I'd also like to see if Yuri Eudon instead of actually being sick and it was actually some sort of series of shenanigans where he accidentally super glued his butt to a toilet seat well he stayed behind this Yuri Eudon guy but the other nine trekked on and on January 29th it continued over the Lozva River and to the Ospia River and not much is noted in their journals because they did find many journals from these these travelers the only thing that they noted on these days is that they were
Starting point is 00:10:20 following a mancy trail mancy being the indigenous people who told them when I read this don't go there thought it was manzy man they were all like a bunch of broad-chested like big thick burly hair like man like huge yeah follow the manzy trail for the good times but then I looked them up on Wikipedia and they are very tiny yeah yeah they're very tiny you have to be small and compact to survive in the mountains of Siberia interesting now would assume a broader more hairy type person would survive best they got to be like little balls of fat and he takes too much meat and the promise is that they and the Russian
Starting point is 00:10:58 government with the mansy tribe we're gonna this is going to come back a lot with these fucking these tiny people is that they were very much they were maligned by the Russian government all these other tiny indigenous people's were given their own literature section like basically said that like they would collect all of their writings and teachings together but the mansees weren't and so there's a lot of feeling that there was there was bad blood between monsees and Russians proper to be fair that just means they got like different color bricks put in different corners of the library and that was their
Starting point is 00:11:31 literary section I read red oh you read blue we don't like each other like each other so they had they despite just terrible weather and slower progress and they really wanted the last diary and trees from these people were extremely high spirits and they even had a little bit of fun and I don't know I read this in a I found this in a website but it said charmingly in a very typical Soviet way of bonding they even produced a little newspaper about the trip which they titled the evening or totem and it bore the headline from now on we know that the snowmen exist oh that's Russian fun which could then originally that
Starting point is 00:12:12 sounds like a fucking weird warning about Yeti right yeah it does it does it really does from now on we know that the snowmen exist scary so it's very possible but the problem is that they were to there's such a fucking group of like humble figurine people just came out super cute yeah exactly so they decided on the night of February 1st to camp at the bottom of the mountain slope and which was a pretty dangerous place to camp they would have been much better moving a mile down the tree line which they would have gotten much more shelter in case of any sort of accident he sort of avalanche or something like
Starting point is 00:12:52 that but what they think is that it can be explained for two reasons either one Igor wanted practice camping on the slope or just plain laziness because they didn't want to go back down the slope and come back up again losing another documentary I watched said that apparently at some point during this when they had set off on February 1st that night as if the weather was really nuts and that they may have stopped because it was snowing really hard mm-hmm yeah also I don't know yeah that is to be told yes so Dillatob originally said that he was gonna be back in contact with Yuri on February 12th what you
Starting point is 00:13:34 supposed to send a note to his sports group yes and it's just every Stoviet and like German person like they all are like to Catholic like task the Catholics like shoot and and and jump and swing ropes and they were so much they should have won the war too yeah well they pretty much did yeah they were on our side technically they did yeah they beat the Germans yeah unless you wanted the Germans to win so I want me to talk about your grandfather anymore wouldn't that bit no ladies and gentlemen there's a small technical issue while Henry was defaming my late grandfather and I think we're just gonna leave it out I think
Starting point is 00:14:14 we're just saying that your grandfather would have liked if Germany won the war because then he would have been celebrated as a war right instead of being buried in a shallow grave yes thank you Henry very kind of you so Dillatob told Igor or Igor told Yuri that he was gonna be in contact with the sports team by February 12th but it could be longer but it wasn't until the 20th when there was no contact whatsoever from the team of nine hikers and by the 26th the camp had finally been found by a volunteer search and rescue team and nothing that they found made any sense now this is an incredibly mysterious
Starting point is 00:14:53 incident as has been told a number of times it's a very famous incident what they find here is is very strange because the way they try to explain it out rationally really doesn't make any sense no now is it because they're drunk or does it not make any sense I mean the thing is is that what they didn't know for a long time is that there was a thing called leader hose and fever by mercury being put in the comically large buttons love in front of the leader hose and that would make they would make they would make a yurt or a biurts which is the term for a female or male in clerk is God whenever
Starting point is 00:15:36 wherever they're from what the language is it would make their genitals corrupt oh it would go mad well that also could be an explanation my mother war made me and my older brothers very late later hose in well I was I was three my other brother was five my mother was seven so he wore it to second grade we got made fun of a lot now he's gay so what did she do with those later hose and when you guys were done with them did she use them as a giant truck cover yes I think they she sold them to a to a high school baseball team and they're the later made it to uniforms for all the team yes it was sort of when like yes it was a
Starting point is 00:16:16 when Jesus turned the fish into many yeah they turned the later hose in into many as well how is this different than the US mysterious missing national parks people in national parks missing is this sort of very similar yeah it's very similar in terms of when they find people and it's far away from where they lost them the we're gonna see right now when we go through the separate facts whether you find them like a mile away from the actual site up mountains want you basically found one with evidence of them trying to frantically trying to climb a tree and removal of clothing which is seen a lot in them
Starting point is 00:16:49 disappearances in the national forest very strange very high high strangeness so when the officials found the nine dead bodies on on February 26 the first thing that they found the first thing they noted that was really strange is that the tents that these people had been sleeping in and they were sleeping when whatever happened happened the tents were cut apart from the inside hmm did you look at any of the pictures as well yes if you look at the pictures they are ragged cuts to yeah like they were frantically trying to get out of these tents for whatever reason God knows maybe there was some sort of
Starting point is 00:17:27 fucking candy sale yeah these fucking Germans are yeah yeah so maybe someone freaked out inside the tent and they were attacking from inside and then you had to cut your way out was that the deal well we'll get to the explanation come on here what's happening yeah and so they ran out towards the tree line all nine people ran out of their tents and a lot of shoes and gear was left behind like some people left and this was the temperature was negative 24 degrees when all this was going on that's a balmy Russian 74 degrees yeah I mean they left some people left barefoot some left wearing nothing but socks and in some
Starting point is 00:18:07 cases they left with just one sock or just one shoe and which is very strange yeah these people left quick fast in a hurry some of them did others will find did not leave in such a hurry and were much better dressed but we'll get to that in a bit the first two bodies they found at the tree line under a giant pine tree an entire mile away and investigators wrote that footprints disappeared about a third of the way there although that could have been due to the weather in the three weeks it took for the investigators to arrive yeah that makes yeah they could have been a but still the bodies were found the first two
Starting point is 00:18:46 bodies were found a mile away and those two bodies they were wearing only their underwear and both were barefoot and according to the reports the branches were broken up high in the tree that they were found under under which suggested that they had tried to climb the tree and they apparently also is that when they were there one source I was reading saying that they found skin like basically treads of their skin in the bark as if they were like frantically trying to climb up a tree yeah very fast but they also found remains of a fire which suggested I they either suggested that they were too frightened
Starting point is 00:19:25 to go back to the tents something at the tents freaked them out so much they decided to make a fire in their underwear or it was pitch black and they just they were a mile away from the tents it was pitch black and they had no idea which direction to go either way it was terrifying and these people also were found with burns on both the tops of their heads and their hands huh sort of like what happened to the wet bandits in home alone yeah very interesting where was maybe they came across a young boy that was alone in the woods who thought they were a bunch of cat burglars
Starting point is 00:20:02 a series of pranks for him hmm possible how did they then what happened what would have happened to the fucking wet bandits in home alone happened to them which is they were dead right how did they survive this long to even make a fire in negative 29 degree weather I mean and just wearing underwear and socks well it russian yeah I think we're gonna chalk up a lot of things to their Russia yeah yeah absolutely so three more bodies including Igor Dilatov's were found at points in between the camp and the tree where the first two bodies were found and they lay is if they were trying to head back to camp
Starting point is 00:20:37 but one of them have particular strange injuries his name was Rustam Slobodin so his forehead had to be his forehead had to be sloped right oh yeah oh my god Rustam Slobodin is this reminds me it's just like seems like a guy who only works out his like pecs and arms but he's got tiny legs like the characters from that David Spade sketch they were they're all roided out they just have the little legs it's a great SNL sketch if you Google it yeah I want to pump you up yeah it's just like look at how large my chest has gotten oh it's difficult to keep a balance when I'm running when I'm
Starting point is 00:21:17 balancing on the ball for circus class since I take every Wednesday so he had very sad a lot of these people had very strange injuries let's start with Rustam's yeah first of all he had traces of a blood discharge coming from his nose he had a swelling and many small abrasions of irregular shapes on the right side of his face he had other abrasions on the left side of his face his skin was torn from his right forearm he had bruises in the joints on both hands which suggests that he was involved in hand-to-hand combat and he also had the fracture of the frontal bone of his skull and hemorrhages in his
Starting point is 00:22:00 temporalis muscles which this could have actually been done by a foreign blunt object and the autopsy states that slobidin probably suffered loss of coordination due to initial shock right after the blow which would have sped up his death from hypothermia now you know when I hear the term foreign blunt object I think like an Asian vase wrong yeah it's possible or he was he was hit with a Frenchman one of the with a Frenchman yeah I am sick of being a weapon so it's very strange that he should have the injuries he has because usually when a person falls it's their palms that suffer the most of course you
Starting point is 00:22:46 know when you fall you put your hands down first but the injury to the head especially where his injury was is much less common what is a bilateral injury mean I'd say bilateral probably so it probably means an injury on both sides of the body like you have injuries on the left side of your body and injuries on the right side it looks like this it's according to this it's two black eyes there we go there you go black eyes left and right no so they found these guys all at first and then they bagged them up and they took them away and they didn't know what to do but the next it basically it took two months until they
Starting point is 00:23:20 found the rest of the bodies yeah they had to wait until the spring thaw well they found the rest of them and those people were buried under a dozen feet of snow in a gully a few hundred feet downslope from the big tree and this is where it's gets real weird yeah this gets really weird and it gets really fucking rough all four of them one thing is like also what I was reading about it too is like when they found them so when they found them out here they basically found them where was it it was another like ridiculous amount away from that the cedar tree that they were all it's like kind of stationed
Starting point is 00:23:55 around right they found that they had taken precautions against the cold they literally had dug themselves into the ground right and had laid a bunch of cedar branches underneath them to basically create a barrier between them and the snow and they were also discovered when you hear the list of like how they discovered they they were wearing the other people's clothing they had taken clothing from what may have been already dead bodies and we're wearing them well that's terrible that's what hipsters do every time they go clothes shopping at a thrift store they're wearing corpses clothes all four of
Starting point is 00:24:30 these people that were found suffered extremely traumatic deaths although there were there was no outward appearance of trauma on no soft tissue damage it was all internal injuries the injury the autopsy reports say except for some of the more gruesome details we'll get to a second but the other details say that the injuries that they had could only be compared to the injuries the internal injuries that one gets from a car crash so they were making love to a Ben kissle yes that's very nice of you thank you one of them had a fractured skull his name was Nicholas tibodeaux Brignanel yeah another one was
Starting point is 00:25:09 Alexander Zolotoryov he had crushed ribs but the most gruesome injuries were found on a woman named Ludmila Dubinina do we know for sure that they weren't playing the hit me in the ribs with your head game oh I love that old Russian game oh it's a great that's how you that's how president was chosen for up to 29 years that's right yeah so this woman I want to give you a bit of a background on her she was active in tourist clubs she liked to sing and take pictures in many of the pictures of the last trip were shot by her and the pictures will become much more important later because there was many
Starting point is 00:25:43 pictures taken up until the night of the incident and this was a tough woman these words these were tough fucking people yeah one expedition two years earlier she had been shot by another dude who was cleaning his rifle and during the entire transportation back she didn't complain not only she'd not complain but she felt bad for causing other people trouble well having to carry her I'm surprised he didn't she didn't say yes to that Russian wedding proposal that sounds pretty nice do you shoot them and then you get them if she lives she is wife
Starting point is 00:26:19 it's a better culture in a lot of ways if she dies she dies she was wife she's ghost wife yeah ghost wife is a great Russian movie so she is wife it's the perfect Russian wife because she can't be heard right just you could just drink vodka in your fucking men's room with all the fucking guys chain spoken cigarettes and still be officially married nobody calls you gay though you know because you got that ghost wife oh yeah so she had quite a bit of clothing on she wore a short sleeve shirt a long sleeve shirt and two sweaters and her body was covered in underwear long socks and two pairs of
Starting point is 00:26:56 pants her external pair of pants was badly damaged by fire and also ripped she also had a small hat and two pairs of warm socks and in a last attempt to preserve her feet she took off a sweater and cut it into two pieces and wrapped it around so if you look there are there were some people that left the camp completely in their underwear yeah but this woman had multiple layers of clothing she's like Jeff Daniel's character in dumb and dumber when Jim Gary's characters hands are about to freeze off Jeff Daniel's character is two pairs of gloves give some people some clothes woman my hands are getting
Starting point is 00:27:32 sweaty so she had like a comically a bit comically dirt person who's like moving you know I mean she's just moving our clothes at once yeah except she's dead now that said she had some of the most gruesome injuries first of all and this is one this this detail is kind of what a lot of the mystery centers around her tongue was missing what do you mean her tongue was missing she had no watch like you miss your you're missing a watch yeah yes it's just like okay got my keys got my sunglasses she also had soft tissue missing around her eyes eyebrows in her left temporal area where bone was partially exposed although that was
Starting point is 00:28:27 mostly from the frostbite but her eyes were also missing no eyes no tongue her nose cartilage was completely broken and flattened she had four ribs broken on the right side she had one two three four five six broken on the left side the soft tissues of her upper lift were missing her teeth and upper jaw were exposed she had a huge hemorrhage in her heart's right atrium she had a big bruise in the middle of her left thigh and damaged him tissues around her left temporal bone on her face and it's also mentioned that her stomach had about a hundred grams of coagulated blood so what this means the red the blood in
Starting point is 00:29:12 her stomach what this means is that her heart was beating and her blood was flowing when her tongue was removed she was still alive when her tongue was removed but the official cause of death was the hemorrhage to the heart the multiple fractured ribs and of course the internal bleeding yikes yeah that is but you want to be asleep for that when the old tongue runs away yeah she definitely got the meat lovers pizza death oh yeah that scenario she kind of left they did it all they left it I put it all on the menu yeah so it's it was said in the official report that a lot of the injuries to her face at least a lot
Starting point is 00:29:53 of the missing stuff that was that those injuries were in line with future faction in a wet environment which would have come from her leg face down in a stream however photographs of her corpse showed her body kneeling against a large boulder away from running water so the photographs and the official reports don't match up in a lot of different ways who took the photograph there when you get to that the investigators the investigator investigator so the as we saw in Andre chick in the Andre chickatello episode rushing investigators are not the best at their job nope not at all they're
Starting point is 00:30:31 really bad at it as we'll see again and again they're mostly just trying to get out of the cold yeah that's about it so yeah these final four were much better outfitted me in the other five because apparently as Henry said they took the clothes off of the dead so this guy Zola Taylor off he was found wearing Dubinini's coat and hat while she in turn a raptor foot and a piece of wool pants that one of the two found at the pine tree had been wearing so there was a definite there not everyone died at once right some people died first second third there was a lot there was a long chain of events that resulted in the
Starting point is 00:31:10 entire the entire team ending up being dead they went cuckoo bananas it sounds like a definition yeah yeah and this guy this guy was very another guy very strange discoveries on his body and very strange injuries his name was semen Zola Torev the rough name that's the worst one yeah semen Zola Torev he was my name is cum Robertson he was found Robertson yeah I had to change it when I left Russia what were you in Russia see man Zola Torev are your seamen's okay good choice I guess good choice he was found with two hats a scarf a short long a short sleeve shirt a long sleeve shirt a black sweater and a coat with two
Starting point is 00:32:02 upper buttons unbuttoned it was clear that he did not die from hypothermia his lower body was protected by underwear two pairs of pants and a pair of skiing pants he also had a lot of different items on him he had a copy he had newspapers he had a lot of coins he had a compass few other items his feet were protected by a pair of socks and a pair of warm leather handmade shoes known as a burka I guess that's what they call burkas in Russia they're all wrong and here's another really weird part he had a camera around his neck yeah which is clearly seen in the pictures of his body and this camera was a complete
Starting point is 00:32:42 surprise to the guy that was left behind the one survivor he assumed that the group only had four cameras which all four were found in the tent but what this means is that Zola Torev had a secret camera that not only did he not tell anyone else about but he grabbed the camera on the way out of the tent he had always happening that he literally eat the first thing that it's like literally walking into the middle negative 10 whether the first thing he thought it was to grab the camera there's a good chance is going there's a good chance it that was his poo poo pee pee cam that he kept in the restroom and
Starting point is 00:33:23 he didn't want anybody to find his stash I love that this guy had fun to anyone to know that I take a picture every single time one of my dookies looks like a letter of the alphabet I think it's spelling a message I N K drink why oh drink your oval tea man you know so we talk about semen's camera but but unfortunately water damaged the film so we don't actually know what or at least the Soviets say the water damaged his film so we don't know what images cat semen captured out there that night but it's just it's a rough name let's call him as obelosky no he's gonna be semen to the then I mean
Starting point is 00:34:17 tell his memory is gone from this world he'll be semen semen and so one as far as semen's injuries go his eyes were missing once again you had missing eyes I use also missing soft tissues around his left eyebrow where the bone was exposed and he also his chest was broken in he had multiple ribs broken on the lot on the right side fracture lines he had an open wound on the right side of his skull and these people both Zoltarev and Dumanina who had the worst of the injuries they have they have injuries that are very similar in direction and force despite their differences in shape height and body composition which
Starting point is 00:35:02 was which would suggest that the two injuries were not a single uniform event such as an avalanche oh yeah they were homemade yeah yeah and while some say that they were attacked by monsee tribe men as I said earlier coroner said that the trauma found required more force than a human being could inflict especially don't understand the men see have a very specific style of attack what's they leave a banana tied to a string and they've lead you out to a forest or one of the other ones are sitting behind the wheel of a truck copy with the truck that makes sense so let's get to some possible explanation so this is the end
Starting point is 00:35:44 of the evidence that's what we know yeah that is for certain like that is a that we found these bodies these were the injuries and that's kind of the story as it is and whatever the guy's name is still glued to the toilet somewhere you're a unit you're a unit still still glued to the toilet yeah so for the first bit of evidence the first mystery that we have here is that their clothes were tested and found to be radioactive or at least one member of the group his clothes were tested and found to be radioactive and what's weird about this is that the officials thought to check the clothes for radioactivity it's not often that you
Starting point is 00:36:23 come upon a crew a group of nine bodies and you think all right well let's get the Geiger counter out well they have so but honestly Russia has deposits of naturally like that's where plutonium comes from they find it in the hills of the tone of Russia they know it's there uranium is just kind of around the kids play with it because they think their toys because they're glowing and they don't get real toys because the toys are given up to the fucking consulates yep parliament mm-hmm it should be noted however that one of the guys Yuri Kriven Yuri Kriven is shinko his clothes he was the guy that had the height and
Starting point is 00:36:59 radiation on his clothes he had once worked at Chelyabinsk 40 a secret nuclear facility that experienced as a disaster that became known as the kustum koi incident so this guy survived a nuclear meltdown and was just like I'm gonna go skiing yeah celebrate my victory against death two years earlier now the incident happened there was a radioactive leak and he was among the people who were sent to clean it up and but his body of course that he would not still have that much radiation in his body two years later the guy would have died the only explanation for a link between these two things is if Yuri was
Starting point is 00:37:39 still wearing the clothes that he was wearing when he cleaned up the nuclear reactor unwashed that just seems dumb it just seems like wouldn't they also be openly glowing like it would be a it would be interesting also that's the other thing too in Soviet like when they sent him out to fix these fucking these nuclear power plants it's like it's literally just with like a bucket in the box oh yeah no it's just it's a day in the life of being a janitor in Russia maybe you sure was sort of like a hyper color shirt kind of changed colors if you touch it it could be cool so go into the funerals of the actual victims one
Starting point is 00:38:21 eyewitness granted 12 year old boy but there were other eyewitnesses other family members but one 12 year old eyewitness said that he saw the bodies and he claimed the bodies had a quote deep brown tan which suggests that they possibly had an encounter with a nuclear weapons test as the campsite was located on the pathway from Balakonur Cosmodrome to Chernaya Guba which was a Soviet nuclear testing ground and most also say that this was this dialed a TAV pass was also kind of lesser known as the Jersey Shore of Russia oh you think they were they were putting on some tanner huh some spray tan huh and most
Starting point is 00:39:09 reports also insisted that their hair had lost all of its pigmentation and the hair was a dull shade of gray wow that's great so this is a transport from from the nuclear facilities huh yeah a pat yeah it's a path between I mean it was a it was a monsee path but this path was also used to go between these two nuclear testing facilities those monsees had a rough oh my god yeah we'll get to them in a second but another and a really strange thing about this entire story was the links that the Soviet Union went to cover it up if this was just an avalanche then they would not have gone that they would not have
Starting point is 00:39:48 checked for radiation they would not have gone to links they sealed off the area for four years and all the documents about the case were sealed after they were closed and when they finally became accessible in the 1990s during glasnost parts of the reports were missing and other reports also suggest there was a lot of scrap metal in and around the area which leads to speculation the military had used the area secretly and might have been engaged in a cover-up and Alexander Kola Vitov he kept a personal diary in the only survivor of the group testified that it was with him on the last trip but the
Starting point is 00:40:30 diary was missing also it is notoriously difficult to just to research this topic in Russia oh yeah they shut people out all the time they taught that was watching one thing and basically officials it's kind of like the area well area 51 in America is now they make fun of you that's how they that's how they beg you off where this is it is they shut you down they take your funding away if you are movie remotely find out you are researching this and it's like why if not again there's some sort of connection to either secret technology or who knows of a secret power plant but now all that might be moved there's
Starting point is 00:41:12 that good and documentary disinformation men all about how like area 51 it's probably then now they want you to believe the aliens are there because they're no longer there anymore you know now it's just it's a it's a glorified truck stop full of trinkets and in random gifts for grandpa so I'm sure you can go check this place out now in Russia yeah you can go there in fact they do people do hikes through the Dilatov pass yeah and there are there are certain superstitions surrounding it of course in that you get people never hike through it in groups of nine that's a good idea yeah yeah yeah you try not yeah you try
Starting point is 00:41:45 not to recreate the exact conditions of the Dilatov pass incident but people do still hike through there keep on put a little bell on the under your tongue so you always know where it is can't go missing all right so the most likely explanation for this is that it was an avalanche and the likely explanation for them being naked was a phenomenon called paradoxical undressing which happens in 25% of hypothermia hypothermia victims what happens here is that the hypothalamus malfunctions and you feel like you're getting warmer when your body is actually getting colder now this is a common way that they talk about
Starting point is 00:42:26 the like high strangeness and disappearance cases they always talk about this this weird paradoxical undressing it's just but in 25% it just doesn't seem like it it explains what happens here I don't know hmm yeah I think it's different when you're by yourself but when you're with a bunch of other people it's like are you hot yeah I'm a scientist maybe they're going for one last romp in the old snow or something well there put one of those Russian Daisy chains yeah it's called it's technically called a slag chain Jesus god so one supporting factor for for the theory of the avalanches that the
Starting point is 00:43:07 avalanches aren't actually uncommon on any slope that accumulates snow and then despite the area not being prone avalanches slab avalanches do occur in new snow which we said earlier the weather was pretty fucking terrible you know when I'm having sex that's the name of my finishing move it's the slab avalanche and then the woman just comes and comes when I give her the old slab avalanche I thought it was called riding the wave yeah she does after the slab you ride the slab avalanche so that's the way that creates that they say another thing that supports the avalanche theory is that the tent was
Starting point is 00:43:43 halfway torn down and partially covered with snow which could support the theory of a small avalanche pushing snow into the tin which is why they cut open the tin and went outside but the theory has gaps from what we can tell about the naked footprints left by the group everyone seemed to come out of the snow with relative ease like they weren't trying to dig their way out of snow and it is very unlikely that people with broken ribs and especially the broken trip chest would have been able to move at all because they these injuries that they found on these people they were so terrible I mean if your chest bone is
Starting point is 00:44:26 broken you're not going to be able to dig your way out of an avalanche no way like there is no way that that's going to happen no you're too busy going yeah and of course these people that all these people were extremely experienced and well-trained and that they knew that the risk of getting out into this extreme cold was much higher than the risk of being killed by an avalanche especially just in the flimsy clothing some of them went out with yeah and this is one of the big this is one of the biggest reasons why an avalanche isn't likely if you compare pictures taken on February 1st by the Dilatov past group
Starting point is 00:45:09 and but on February 26 when the group was first found by investigators you can see that a ski pole that was stuck in the ground kept its vertical position on the slope for weeks after the tragedy struck which would be impossible had an avalanche came down off of the mountain to crush the campers and if you can pull that highly improbable impossible impossible yeah and also young Vladimir Putin went to that snow and he took that little stick and he pulled it out of the snow and now he's president so think about that another fairly reasonable scientific explanation for this is I find this fascinating it's
Starting point is 00:45:55 called the Carmen vortex this is very interesting yeah I've heard of stuff about like this before it's phantom noises created by the environment yeah this is amazing so the shape of dead mountain summit combined with its proximity to the Dilatov groups 10 they created the ideal conditions for something called the Carmen vortex which occurs as a guy who wrote an entire book about the Dilatov his name was I car he wrote an entire book about the Carmen vortex and the Dilatov pass incident he said when wind of a certain speed hits a blunt object of a particular shape and size it causes a Carmen vortex to be created
Starting point is 00:46:37 and a Carmen vortex creates these tiny air vortices just small tornadoes kind of like this is can this also what maybe be called like the Mega Man vortex because that's a Mega Man villain weapon yeah it's like after you be Airman and Mega Man to the things that you shoot out of your hand yeah those little tiny tornadoes so little tornadoes did all this it crushes your chest muscles and rips at your fucking tongue what did the Lee exactly the little tornado gone to the people's people's eyes and things so what what happened with these small tornadoes it would have produced infrasound which infrasound is the
Starting point is 00:47:15 sound is actually below the range of human hearing so what these people actually found is they found these extreme vibrations in their body and they found that and they had like these inner ear malfunctions which would have caused it to freak out hey Igor hey hey buddy hey but you get your dick out of your pants whoa come on Igor come on I think Ludwig has been giving you the look movies been shaking just right come on take a dick out of your pants I'm gonna go for a walk I don't know what I'm hearing but I am liking it infrasound also causes nausea and it causes objects to shake it occurs from man-made
Starting point is 00:47:57 sources and also in nature as a byproduct of earthquakes landslides meteors and some tornadoes including these mini tornadoes and if any of you out there have ever been anywhere near a tornado you know how fucking loud it is it is so you cannot if you've never been around and you can't even imagine how fucking loud a tornado is yeah and these tornadoes sound like I thought it sounded like a bunch of cows spinning around yeah it sounded like a new wife of his tornadoes so it could have been that these people were bombarded with infrasound which would have caused them to freak out and to run out of the tent
Starting point is 00:48:57 as far and as fast as they possibly could and they got so far away from the tent that they couldn't find their way back a couple of people died at the tree line the other ones took their clothes off them and wandered off into the wrong direction and this guy claims that the whole tongue missing thing claims that never happened what do you mean it never happened he claims that it never happened where are the tongues now just some cruel Russian investigator just going like look hey everybody look over here guy cut out the tongue and look never have to lick a stamp again that's great I do think in
Starting point is 00:49:35 Russia that would be a stamp liquor it's just the corpse is done you just got to keep it wet so you need to tell me that literally tiny tornadoes that made a lot of noise scared them out of the tents and they ran away from them yes tiny tornadoes made a lot of noise in addition to the noise plus the infrasound which tickled their inner ear hairs which would have caused them to feel extremely fearful it would have caused them essentially to freak out they wouldn't have known what was going on and all they wanted to do was get the fuck out of there as soon as possible the old man from up would have really
Starting point is 00:50:09 freaked out hit a lot a lot of those ear hairs so of course we have some reason that yeti tea party still sounds like a more credible argument I agree I think it's definitely at this point we know for a fact it's the yeti tea party until current till disproven well you haven't heard aliens yet oh because it is also a theory that aliens caused oh yeah this entire incident to happen well the big thing you want to talk about if one thing that could tie aliens into it is that if there was true that there was a secret sort of nuclear testing facility aliens have been known to visit testing nuclear testing facilities because
Starting point is 00:50:49 they apparently you know alien phenomena is linked to nuclear testing all the time because they're concerned about what we're gonna do to our solar system oh yeah animals as humans 150 miles northeast is the tiny village of Malyovka slash Malyovka which is in the perm region and here in Malyovka Malyovka Malyovka in the perm region which is also where Lionel Richie was born oh I love Lionel he's great yeah over in this place we find audio anomalies sudden outbreaks of fire electronic interference plenty of UFO sightings and very strange plasma balls oh yeah the area also has an ozone smell to it
Starting point is 00:51:36 people experience strange fatigue feelings of being watched and the cell phone signal is terrible in the village except in a six by six foot area where it's almost perfect oh yeah that's where aliens set up their Wi-Fi hotspots so they can check their Instagram feeds alien instagrams are the funniest they are funny so interviews given by the lead investigator a guy named Lev Ivanov who by the way became obsessed with UFOs after investigating this incident he said that he noticed that the pines in the forest around Dilatov Pass particularly the ones where the bodies were found were burned at the top
Starting point is 00:52:21 huh interesting yeah which goes ahead of the character from home alone the wet bandits hmm and he said that he was told at the time to keep the case extremely shut to any and all media to any and all other people by the Soviet government any kind of reports of bright flying spear spears or anything like that which were reported in and around the area in February and March of 1959 and the last photograph on the film and one of the cameras found in the tent appears to capture a giant flash against the night sky Ivanov said the picture it's very interesting isn't yeah interesting you take a picture it just it looks like
Starting point is 00:53:06 it's a super blurry picture I mean you know it doesn't look like any yeah it could be a fucking balloon I don't know what it is I haven't said I suspected at the time and I'm almost sure now that these bright flying spheres had a direct connection to the group's death there were other UFO sightings in the area at the time on the morning of March 31st a group of search and rescue volunteers saw glowing pulsating orbs in the sky and another group of students camped out around 30 miles from the other group they also reported similar sightings at the time in written testimony one of those students said
Starting point is 00:53:42 that he saw a shining circular body fly over the village from the southwest to the northeast he said the shining disk was practically the size of a full moon a blue white light surrounded by a blue halo and the halo brightly flashed like the flashes of distant lightning and when the body disappeared behind the horizon the sky lit up for a few minutes afterwards oh cool yeah and another group of geologists 70 kilometers away from the mountains so that they saw some glowing and pulsating orbs flying in the direction of the campsite on the evening of the tragedy and a group of monsee hunters that camped out near this
Starting point is 00:54:21 place claimed to have also seen flying orbs near the mountain on the night in question so aliens went there on a hot first date and then the guy was like what do you want honey and she's like tongues and eyes and then you just got tongues and eyes come crass door must collect more tongues and eyes so I can finger bang quick rock quick rock was hot as hell though man hot as hell so we've gone through we've gone through science we've gone through aliens now time for some cryptids oh time for it's time for some yet yeah so one early European again so and this is the again the full package kind of like bridge
Starting point is 00:54:58 water triangle we got aliens we got fuckin nuclear testing facilities and now we got tiny man's eat people yeah we got everything man these tiny man's eat people one European traveler who first encountered them said that they possessed incredible powers when one army was approaching was approaching these people the locals started to destroy a mountain or at least the Tatars the Tartars thought that that's what they were doing and when they returned they left the area for ten years and when they returned they found ruins and when they tried to approach the locals they were hindered by a cloud like formation
Starting point is 00:55:36 that appeared between the two groups and the cloud was impenetrable the Tartars lost their eyesight as they try to approach it but strangely enough not even the Monsi people could cross the cloud to go over to the Tartars yeah many indigenous cultures have used the art of harnessing farts to face various form of white men across this whole world and I think the people of Ferguson you're gonna bring Ferguson into this huh is that there is that the right thing to do so you want you want that you want the black community of Ferguson to fart off the white allies and their white allies sure but that's not getting the news
Starting point is 00:56:22 press isn't far off the cops farred off the car and it's a matter of fact you can if you are in police custody fart all you want please why not we encourage it up fart it up do it so the Monsi people they have their own version of the Yeti called the Menkvi they say that it's an angry and violent human-like animal that roams the Ural Mountains the legend claims that their behavior and aggression towards the humans is the reason why the gods punish the world with the great flood and very few Menkvi survived on the very top of Mount Louvre in Siakva and others drowned these creatures were left to walk in solitude
Starting point is 00:57:06 across the empty land they die but they are later reborn in the same shape and appearance their bodies themselves are invincible but even if something destroys the Menkvi there's a way to repair the damage it is possible to create a new Menkvi from the bodies of his fallen comrades just as it's possible to use parts of robots to build a new robot but but if what if you're one of the similar what if you're one of the Menkvi's that becomes one of the parts that for the other Menkvi then you're part of that you're it's the Menkvi it's a new Menkvi you're its arm or something I think whoever has the head is the main
Starting point is 00:57:46 Menkvi would you know one who's got the dick yeah so several members of the search party that found the victims of the Dilatah pass incident they remembered that when they told the native Monsi that the native Monsi were shocked when they described the injuries to them some of them believed of course some of the men see believed that the deaths could have been caused by a Menkvi since several caribou's and reindeer belonging to a local man see herder were killed by a Menkvi just a few weeks prior to the accident and the bodies of nine Monsi hunters that were found dead on that same mountain that were left in place but
Starting point is 00:58:34 those play those bodies to showed very strange signs of internal damage the same types of internal damage that the Dilatah pass people suffered oh very interesting so everyone's pointing fingers here everyone's pointing fingers and most interestingly the American Embassy in Nepal sent a document to the Department of State in Washington entitled regulations covering mountain climbing expeditions in Nepal relating to the Yeti could you that was just a board senator oh yeah if you're if you're a senator I think that's the cool thing about one of the only Himalayan basketball players up there exactly it
Starting point is 00:59:13 was just Strom Thurmond exactly looking for one more person to be racist towards if you're a congressman or a senator I would like once a week I would just be like Sasquatch just in the subject line and just like send it out and be so fun people take you very seriously in those positions they do yes this this document contains three regulations for climbers that they must abide by should they encounter a Yeti very interestingly the date on the document December 20th 1959 just a few short months after the Dilatah pass incident cool what are the three steps I don't know I didn't look all right very good thing you do is you
Starting point is 01:00:01 get the Yeti drunk second thing you do is you play party jams for the Yeti get him dancing third thing you do let him sleep it off oh that's nice Yeti's need to also he may have had some incident with sleep with some sort of Yeti woman up there and he's trying to cover up a secret pregnancy yeah that's a good there's a good chance of that it's whatever you do if you go up and I'm out you see a monkey woman with the last thing you do the thing you don't do you don't forget because they can will and they will definitely carry the child the combination and you will be responsible man the last possible thing
Starting point is 01:00:36 we're gonna cover the last possible cryptid is called the vursa cool the vursa they were represented representations of the lords of the forest if a whirlwind appeared it was a sign that a slew of forest sprites possibly a wedding party were around and at such times one could see the spirits for oneself by looking through one's legs and squinting through one's fingers well that just seems like a weird doctor strange like doctor exam the vursa came in many forms some of them look like humans and others were gigantic beings without any clothes ugly and bearded with reversed feet lacking
Starting point is 01:01:20 eyebrows and eyelashes and many were without a shadow and sometimes the vursa were described as a tall man in a black wool coat well I just checked my feet are straightforward so I am fine I'm not one of them you see that in a lot of different and a lot of ancient folklore especially when you're talking about demons and such you see the backwards feet quite a bit yeah which is a very strange but I find that fascinating origins of the backwards feet is actually because many because they're hunting societies thing that has backwards feet is very difficult to track because when it's walking it looks
Starting point is 01:01:57 like it's walking backwards even more terrifying nice yes we just gave you guys many different explanations possible explanations for the dilatah pass incident then what do you think it was well I think it was aliens on a date that's what I'm gonna go with Henry what do you think I I think that it was to be honest it may be these fucking tiny tornadoes that made Igor take his dick out of his pants I'm going I'm honestly going for tiny tornadoes I think it's the most reasonable explanation tiny tornadoes have it but leave a message on the Facebook page and let us know what you think or some
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