Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 156: The Coronado Group Abduction

Episode Date: February 17, 2015

Aliens return with the Coronado Group Abduction, in which at least six people were abducted while attending a UFO convention on the same night in the same motel while Bill Clinton was in town. There's a lot to unpack here.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last talk. On the left. Right above your glass. That's when the cannibalism started. What was that? I find that if I have a laush inch and I, if I have a laush inch and I happen to either get,

you know, like blood up all up in it, or like some yellow from the deep part of my throat, you know when you get like yellow just comes out of your throat? Everyday. What I do then to get rid of it is I take my house keys and I just kind of goop it out. I kind of scoop it out of my house keys and then you can keep sucking on that laush inch

for as long as you want. That's what people do with sardines and stuff. That's what a sailor would do. I'm just saying sailors, has a sailor ever been wrong? Sailor doesn't have a family. Sailor doesn't have a fucking address so the government can find him. A sailor's got a fun little hat. He's friends with the fish.

I don't know what sailors do. That's about right. They got funny hats and they're friends with fish. I am not allowed to go on any sort of boat or be a sailor because I'm allergic to rope. That's not true. The Zabrowski family used to cruise all the time. You guys were buffet kings. Yeah, but that's basically a moving hotel.

You go from a hallway. It's like a dock onto a hallway that takes you just basically a room. That's all my parents did was stay inside one of the little side cabin rooms. They didn't go outside. We were in a sunning people. We look like the clumps. We look like the white clumps.

The white clumps indeed. Welcome to the show everyone. That's Marcus Parks. I'm Ben Kissel. We're joined by a white clump. Hercules. Is that what this is? Is that what you wanted me to do? I don't know.

That turned out to be exactly what everyone wanted you to do. So today's episode. I'm honestly having a really hard time concentrating on anything. But what is rolling around in my brain right now. Marcus knows the feeling. Usually Marcus sort of takes the lead on the research. But this episode is a

it's a Henry Zabrowski special. Well, of course, because what we're doing today, we're doing aliens. We're back. Back to aliens. And this one is called Coronado Coronado. The hotel Coronado group abduction. What we're going to start now is what I believe to be

is a sort of series of different alien episodes. So it's going to combine either a specific abduction scenario and the teachings of Jacques Villet who is a doctor, a French doctor if you could tell by his fucking name. Jacques.

His real name is John Valley. No, he's a doctor. He's a biologist. Oh, okay. No, he's a for real doctor. This guy is one of the most interesting. I'm reading a book right now. Hold a second. Okay, so Henry's gotten up now and he's going to go do some. He's going to do his book bag.

He just has a book in his pocket. Oh, no, it was right in front of him the entire time. I'm confused. All right. The book on the table. This episode is going to be smooth sailing. Smooth sailing. This is what I said this before. We are not going to do

the same jumbled, ridiculous alien episode that we normally do. We have an outline today, which we're sticking to. We are not currently sticking to it. I'm just going to say, this is a part of a trilogy by Dr. Jacques Vellet and the first book is called

Dimensions, a Casebook of Alien Contact and what he is trying to do is basically create a precedent that alien abductions and alien contact has been going on since the beginning of human time. We all know as people that are members, the people who've been listening to this podcast,

we already know for a fact that that's fucking true and it's been held secretly away from us by whoever it was and it's not the president because the president is too busy golfing and looking pretty in a bunch of ties. He does golf a lot. So he doesn't got the fucking keys to the secret. He has no idea where the secret room is,

where Klax or is, and J. Edgar Hoover who's still alive. Possibly, you never know. Somewhere in a broom closet dressed up as Carol Channing and Carol Channing is there and they're all fucking blowing each other and making new wifi fucking computers for you. Not far from the truth.

We all know these people have crazy sex parties. The Hotel Dil Coronado is a very fancy hotel that is on the island off of San Diego. Which means a world's vagina. You remember that? We can't do any anchorman rap. Anchorman.

You remember that? By the way, I've taken San Diego back. I hate San Diego. It's been ruined by that goddamn movie and if I lived in San Diego, I'd be livid. And so in this abduction is we're seeing about 10 to 12 people that are all abducted together in one night.

And we're going to see many different abduction scenarios. Probably every single type of abduction scenario that exists all happens within this one event. And what Jacques Vallée talks about, which I'm trying to get to,

I basically read a 500 page book about the Hotel Dil Coronado incident over the last two days. So I'm a little confused. Welcome to the Hotel Dil Coronado. My fucking house has become the Hotel Dil Coronado. Yesterday was just me sitting with my vape.

I drank three pots of coffee and drank in red all day. So I'm living in existence. And so, but Jacques Vallée talks about how there's the same instances of both high strangeness, which we see in several alien abductions.

Stuff like making them eat black goop, or a story about an abduction scenario that happened in Kentucky in 1955. Or basically a man alien craft landed on his lawn. He came out and met the alien creatures as they were coming out of the craft with a shotgun.

He shot one of them. And the creature went like and shot around like it was a Looney Tunes cartoon. Are you sure the guy didn't just shoot his television while watching a Looney Tunes cartoon? He may have just been hammered and fell asleep while watching Wiley Coyote.

But these scenarios involve iridiculousness and but also physical evidence as we'll see with this abduction case, which is like implants. Like indentations where the crafts like landed. All of these little bits have a psychic and

physical component to them. Each abduction scenario. And there is a thing in between those that makes the abduction scenario important to the human race. And that is what Jacques Vallée is trying to talk about. The symbolism of the weird nonsense

and the actual physical happening of the abduction mean something to us. But I haven't gotten to that part of the book yet. I want to know what that black goop tastes like. It might be unbelievable like a Turkish delight. We're not talking about Willy Wonka's

from fucking the 80s. It's the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe that woman kept on giving all the kids Turkish delight. I still think about those Turkish delight. I used to go into my closet as a kid and banged my head against the back wall. It never opened up. They were going for one of those late, late, late term

abortions where they hope you just drink yourself to death. I'm still trying to kill myself in my mother's womb. And if you think about it, we're all still in our mother's womb if you think about Earth as our mother. Alright. I'll think about it that way. But before that, let's get to the actual

Coronado incident on March 26, 1994 at a UFO convention. It's very convenient. In which, and we'll get more into the guts of this detail later on Bill Clinton was present

at the same hotel giving a speech on the night of said mass abduction. Hiding in plain sight or was he just having a fat chick blow him out by the spa? I'm not really sure.

So what happens? So there's a UFO convention where it's like having a Scott Baio event and then a fan event and then Scott Baio actually shows up. That's pretty cool. But then Scott Baio kind of pulls a Bill Cosby and gives you a glass of wine that rapes you in your hotel room. Occasionally just some coffee.

So on March 14, 1994 Mike Evans and his wife were visited by extraterrestrials in their hotel room. And on the very same night, several of their friends who were staying in adjacent rooms in the same hotel

were also experiencing an encounter. So basically there was a line of people all together that were all staying on the same floor, not at the Hotel del Coronado. It was a place called The Village Inn. Now because Yvonne Smith who was like the famous UFO researcher

and hypnotherapist named Yvonne Smith helped collect all of these stories together in a series of hypnotic regressions on the Hotel del Coronado night where she wrote a book called Coronado which includes a bunch of transcripts of her hypnotherapic

sessions. And that's what I have with me today. So Mike Evans what's really interesting is how it all happened at once and they all hurt each other, get abducted. How did the aliens do it? It was like a room service, room service

go away, go away! That is very funny Ben. No, no, no, absolutely not. That would just be if you were vacationing in like Columbia and you were just getting taken by a bunch of gorillas. So we're going to read some regressions

of what happened that night. All of them basically said the same thing. They arrived that Friday. They all were, every single one of them remarks of being like, and it was the smallest bathroom I've ever seen. Now these people go into this hotel room at the Village Inn and

anybody is abducted by aliens. I don't know if it's just being abducted by aliens but like just the type of people they just choose or they're all real weird and they're all the nerds.

I feel terrible for the people working the Village Inn that weekend. That sucks when the UFO convention rolls through town. Absolutely. So the night of Saturday, so they all kind of had like a get together. So they're all there for this conference. Bill Clinton's also there eating mayonnaise straight out of a packet

somewhere in the hotel. And this so Saturday night is when the events took place. Each one of these abductions began with the same thing with the whole room getting bathed with sort of a blue light. I'm going to have Ben Kissel here read the part of Yvonne Smith

with me. Yvonne Smith is the hypnotherapist that, by the way, let's give some of Yvonne Smith's credentials very quickly before we get into this. After two years of study and a thousand hours of internship at the California Hypnosis Motivation

Institute, the only accredited hypnosis college in the United States. Yeah, and he was just showing up, right? Like he was just like, well, I'm your intern now. But the problem with the Hypnosis Institute is that they just go like, welcome to the institute. Five, four, three, two, you're getting sleepy, you're

getting sleepy. One, when you open your eyes, you will have graduated from the hypnotism institute. Five, four, coming out of the hypnosis. You're feeling less sleepy. Two, one. Wow. That is pretty much all I remember from college.

It's about accurate. Is that the wedding song? Oh, that's nice. She's got her, she got her hypnotherapy certification in 1990, and in 1991, she founded CERO, the Close Encounters Resource Organization. And now these people are all members of CERO.

Everybody that got abducted that night, and each one of them either did not know that they had previous abduction experiences, but most of them did. Some of the stories we will read of some of the women that were abducted have some crazy fucking stories. And what I also love is they outlined that Marcus put together

did not include some of the more juicy details that happened that night. Again, is it possible they were just raped? Let's see. We'll move on. So Mike Evans started with a story of he was abducted when he was a boy.

And he did, he found this out through regression therapy. And basically as a boy, he woke up, he went on a camping trip, and what he would do is he would camp out in his backyard. His grandfather would own lots and lots and lots of land, and so he would have, he had, out there

he would like a little creek he went to and a little greenhouse that he would go hide in to like get away from his grandparents. He didn't really, the way he talked about getting away from his grandparents would seem like he didn't go into detail, but it seemed like there was something happening, because he was like, I like to spend

a lot of time in that green room. It's just nice to get away from what's going on in the house anyway. And so he he was noticing missing time scenarios where he would go out. So a lot of these abduction scenarios we're going to find out, it's the reason why they go into regression. It's

a lot of times it's a puzzling experience that they had when they were younger that the way they say the aliens deal with it is sort of like hypnotize you so you don't fucking remember. They put a bunch of bullshit on top of it so that you can't get to it. Are they nerds because they were abducted or were they abducted because they were nerds? Interesting.

Good question. I think they were abducted because they were molested by their friends on. That's possible. That's sad. They go out to this, he would talk about how you go out to his greenhouse and sometimes he would like, he's like, I go out there in the morning. Next thing I know it's nighttime.

I would put time just, you know. Yeah, it just goes away when I'm out there and I got two old plants and they take, each one takes about three hours of peace for me to stare at it. Anything but being inside that house. That's terrible. You're supposed to love your grandparents. And so will the story also then, Mike Evans has got the story of

he awoke on a table when they go into the regression. He woke on a table being tiny jaw, you know, almond shaped head, huge black eyes has him laying down the table and he's got a plate on his left arm that holds

his body down. Also, he notices that there is a gigantic X-ray machine. The term X-ray machine is also thrown around quite a bit in these specific abductions where they keep talking about like seeing a machine that they think is an X-ray machine. And he said that he sat on, as a boy

he was on this table and they put a cup over his penis and then the penis basically it was a cover of his penis. Like a let's say they traveled here from Andromeda so hopefully it's not a Dixie company. And it had

a snake inside of it that went up inside of his penis and made him ejaculate. And then he felt really embarrassed about ejaculating in front of them and they're like don't worry, don't worry, don't worry, you're supposed to do this you're supposed to do this. All the aliens are very supportive and very cool about what they're doing to you. This kid just got hard

during his first physical and he made this all up. Possibly. Ben? Or are there many dimensions and we are a part of one fragile slice of reality? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was very nervous the first time I got a physical. Dr. Hagnus gave it to me and I did beef up a little bit, I'm not gonna lie.

You're disgusting. Yeah, Hagnus. No, mine goes straight up inside me. I don't want him to see, I don't want him to see how important I can become. Mike Evans, when he was abducted when the aliens came down, he was at one of the few people that was actually like woken up

by the light and he assumed that it was just an airplane outside so he went and closed the window. Absolutely, which is now in a post 9-11 world if I think a plane's coming, I'm running out of breath. This is not just yell, just get your last yell. This is in the

Clinton years when everything was fucking hunky door. It was great. So this story is that when Mike Evans is awake, at the hotel fast forward to 1994, the hotel told Coronado, when Mike Evans woke up, he woke up with blood on his pillow. Basically, in his

conscious memories that he went to sleep, he woke up, there was blood on his pillow, his wife saw it, they took a picture of it and measured it with a ruler. Oh, man, that is a hell of a nice wife. First he assumed that he had just struck his lip on the sink, but he was like, but no, my lip

is fine. Well, I've done that a hundred times before. Because it's also possibly an alien programming bit that's put into his brain. So we're going to read this transcript from a regression done to Mike Evans with Yvonne Smith. Right now.

All right. Okay now, Mike. Take a deep breath. Try to do this. Try to do it. Okay, Mike. Now as you take deep cleansing breaths, allow the information to come forward as you drift back to March 25, 1994.

It's nighttime. We just pulled up. I get out of the car. I open the screen door and I get through the door. There's nobody at the desk. I ring the bell and this guy comes out. They live in the back part. I asked him if Alice and Lacey were there, but he said they were gone.

So he gives me the key to our room and we get our baggage and a guy from behind the counter shows us where the elevator is. It's like we walk into this closet like thing. It's a little elevator, just enough for two people, so little. They all talk about this fucking elevator. So we go upstairs and the elevator is so small.

And you have to close the door. It's like a little cage door inside and we go up there. But I'm tired. Jean is putting the book away. She's tired. She puts her light out and I put mine out. I give her a kiss. You know, I don't want to eat with her. And I go to sleep.

This light. This light is coming through the window. It's waking me up. What position are you in? On my back. I see the light. It's like a light. It's coming through between the blinds. It wakes me up. Are you lying on your back in the bed looking at the light?

I'm just looking at the light. It's bright. I just have the feeling that there's something in the room there. I can't see. There's a lot of light. And I see like shadows. It's foggy light. And I see shadows in the light. Okay, Mike. Now take a good look around the room

and the shadows in the light. How many shadows do you see? I think I see four. I see them in front of the bed. Yeah, I see one of them come over on my side, on my right side. I see him looking down at me.

Yeah, he has big eyes. He looks down at me. I think he's turning my head. He has something in his hand. It's like a long object. It has something. He's doing something to my ear. It's just looking at me. It has a large head.

It has a pointy chin. I can see this one very clearly. Very large. Very black eyes. Oh, I see a hand coming up. He has something in his hand. Long pointy thing. I think he put that in my ear. I don't have pain. I have this buzzing in my ear. It's high pitched.

Alright, Mike. Take a deep breath and describe what he's putting in your ear. I'm trying to take a look at it. It's a small thing that has like a cage over it or something and it has a high pitched noise. Okay, just stay focused I mean, I can't help but feel you're not being very sympathetic

to me, Yvonne. He turns my head and he puts this thing in my ear. I don't feel anything. The object in this guy's hand I think it was kind of like a ball in the end of it. Like a wire ball. There was something inside the wire. A ball. A wire ball. He only had four fingers. He kind of held it like this here.

I kind of saw it. Your microphone pretty bad on that one. I'm on my back. That being is just looking at me. Oh, they all leave. They just left. They were in the light. Then it got dark in the room. So that's Mike Evan's story of what he saw.

And so basically what happened after that is that he went to the doctor and so the blood came from his ear and so that day, you're going to also see each one of them woke up and basically it was a... It ruined everybody's day. No one knew what happened. They all woke up all groggy

and no one knew what happened. Everyone had mild to major flu-like symptoms. Yes, which is very common, which is also Jacques Fillet talks about has been happening since the beginning of time. When people talk about visiting things like the Gentry or like when they say the Gentry,

it is a type of Irish... It's a UK... Remember the Hidden People when we did the episode about Iceland? Okay. The Hildifig. It's like fairies and other worldly entities that can take people

but also will give things in exchange for knowledge. So it's basically the exact alien story, but from ancient humankind. And Jacques Fillet would talk about all the time is how people would visit the elves and they'd get really sick.

It's just always been happening. So everyone got the flu there. Was it possible that everyone ate the wrong bagel at the continental breakfast? Because his wife Gina felt fine. So unless there were alien enthusiasts eating different meals from non-alien

enthusiasts, because we can probably assume that Gina was not an alien enthusiast. And was very mad about spending her vacation days in San Diego at the Coronado Hotel. Measuring pools of blood on a pillow. It's a very bizarre weekend.

That's probably their most exciting day they've had in years. So we had a bunch of blood and immediately we're just like, get the ruler, honey. We got to see how long this one is. But later on down the line, Mike Evans went to go to get an MRI from the doctor because he was experiencing a lot of ear pain because

the blood that came out of his ear basically had been happening over and over again. He had three more abductions experiences. Also got raped again. Again, they just fish a line up the penis. It's bizarre. It's a different kind of rape that I'm used to hearing.

For more of a catheter approach. Because they just want to get that sweet, sweet jazz. Right. You know how it is. Ladies, as they're getting older, all they're looking for is that sweet, sweet jazz. Because they want a baby. And it's all these aliens.

And you got to get it fresh right out of the nuts. You can't even spend the time shooting it out into the air. That is fresh. And you can't just go in and grab a sock. And then so anyways, Mike Evans went to get an MRI and the doctor was like, well you got to stop cleaning your ear out so crazy. You got a puncture wound in there.

And basically found that they had a full puncture wound through his eardrum. So something's happening. Something's happening. So it's sort of a steel wool type thing. I like this guy's story. It's a little bit different than the traditional story. So it gives it some credit.

A lot of these stories, they are and when they did the hypnotism they kept all of these people separate. And they didn't allow any of them to talk to, you know, trade stories or anything like that to contaminate each other's experiences.

And what's interesting is because they all had experiences being abducted. They all knew that. They all knew that they all felt weird that night and they were all very used to this fact of like basically experiencing the abduction and then kind of letting it settle. Because that's when the memories come out

is later on. Because the aliens specifically, if you believe in the physical component to the abduction scenario and the aliens are taking people and then knocking them out so they don't remember like they know that. They already know that this is kind of what happens. And not just that but Yvonne Smith.

She's actually a pretty good person. I checked out some of her other credentials listening to some interviews and all that. She works a lot with veterans. She works with people. Her specific area of expertise is PTSD. And she uses hypnotherapy to try to, I guess,

try to get to the root of people's PTSD. And that's what she believes that anyone who has been abducted by aliens definitely suffers from PTSD. Which kind of explains why these people the next day weren't just immediately going on to breakfast.

They're like, do you have a weird fucking night? No, literally because we're going to find out the next one we'll cover basically the two ladies that were staying together in the next room over. Because that was the other thing too. That man screamed in the night. Because what happened was that Mike Evans

when he saw the plane coming in he literally saw the plane coming in and he was just like, I knew what was happening because I started feeling a feeling all over my body that I always feel when I'm getting abducted which is this tingly feeling from the tips of the toes to the top of my fucking head. So he sees it and so he was like

I didn't know what to do so I literally walked to the hallway and went I then like walked back into his room and the aliens took him. And they were going to put him in a cell which is what these aliens are doing and they need to be arrested for it if they ever do land on earth.

They're all a bunch of rapists. They're all wearing a bunch of funny sweaters. You must do the dishes Theo. It's very difficult to talk about these things when you feel like you're a victim of something so sensitive. Oh yeah, absolutely. The people that were in the room adjacent to Evans Nancy Stoller

which is a pseudonym, she doesn't want her real name to get out there and Lori Angelone doesn't give a fuck she's using her real name. They were also abducted. Stoller said that she consciously remembers having an extremely restless night and she also

remembers being awoken by a brightly filled room but then after that hazy blurry. And so we can now go to let's cut to the hypnotherapy session of what in the book her name is Alice

which I think is really interesting because I'm not sure which is the cover-up name and which is the fake name, which is the real name. I would say probably Lori Angelone. Lori Angelone! Angelone! I like it, that's a nice name, Angelone. So this is, so Alice and Alice Nancy

and Lori Lacey her name is Lacey in the book, they stayed together in one room and one of them got the raw end of the deal and one of them didn't which we're also going to see in each one of these abduction scenarios too is that the aliens choose one

and the other one just becomes a witness to it, except for the wives. Except for the ones who have been dragged along by their husbands. Because they're like, all right. Childless couples, sad at times. Get a cat! They had a lot to talk about

on Sunday anyway, that's good. All right, so now, so we're going to do the same thing. So you read Y-S, I read A. All right, Alice now take a deep breath. Drift down deeper and now it's much later on this Friday night you're in bed and Lacey is in bed on the TV. This is hot. And the TV,

I can't imagine that it's hot. All right, you're in bed and Lacey is in bed and the TV lights are off. The TV and the lights are off. Your nipples are hard. Now using all of your senses feel yourself there in the hotel room and get in touch with your body as

Get on with it. That's how your body feels as your body retains memories. Just verbalize anything that you're sensing. Flash of light. All right, where do you sense or see the flash of light? My eyelids. All right, so

how do you sense the light? Do you feel it in your eyelids? Try to verbalize everything that you're sensing. I just see Lacey in bed with her knees pulled up. Okay, which way is she facing? My goodness. She's like parallel with the window facing the headboard.

I don't know how I see that. Maybe the light, but I see like a flash. All right, get a sense of all around you. Do you sense any sounds? Any movement? Is Lacey moving? Is she awake? Yeah, she's got her knees pulled up. She's holding her knees. Oh, it's nothing. It's dark. Oh, I'm in the corner of the room sitting against the wall.

All right, you feel yourself sitting in the corner? Yeah, I jumped out of bed and I'm in the corner. Do you know why you jumped out of bed? I'm to the left of the bed in the corner. He scared me. What scared you? I'm to the left of the bed. Who is he? Oh, he had long fingers.

Hold on. He tried to touch me. Oh, long skinny fingers. He's looking at me. That's why I jumped out of bed. I can't hide though. Can you see his face? He bug. He looks like a big bug. Left leg.

Oh, they're looking at my leg. Oh, I don't know why they're looking at my leg. Get in touch with your left leg. Like a big needle of some kind. All right, what part of your leg do you feel this shot of? Are you putting something in my leg through a needle? It makes no sense. No, he was holding it. I don't feel anything though.

I feel very drugged. Very drugged. Oh, I'm so drugged. They did something to me. All right, what position is your left leg in? An inclined position. Tilted. All right, and the needle is still in your left leg? No, they're rolling me to the right side. I saw the needle. I don't feel the needle. I'm very drugged. Oh, I can't move anything.

They don't want me to move. They say, don't move. Everything will be okay. Oh, I'm feeling nauseous. Sick. They make me sick. They make me feel sick to my stomach. I'm very drugged. I think they gave me something. All right, now without feeling any pain or discomfort, just describe everything that's happening with your leg. No.

Done. They're done. I hear the word done. They're done. It's over. I hear that word done. And go back. Go back. And so basically, when she woke up, she found out what they have. Now, again, this is the second trope of alien abductions we're going to see immediately, which is she wakes up with a scoop mark

on her leg, a freshly cut, like a melon baller. Yeah. Melon baller. Melon baller. Melon baller. Best invention ever. Even more disturbing when she woke up, her bedspread was rolled up and placed lengthwise across her bed over her neck and tucked

under her mattress so tightly she was at first unable to stand up. And this is where Nancy Stoller sounds real fucking annoying, is that she has her own traveling blanket that she thinks which are everywhere. No, I hate that.

So basically, like long story short, Lacey slash Lori saw the whole thing happen. She was sitting there and she woke up to seeing Alice in the corner of the room shrieking crying, right? And she was just like, what's that smell? What's that smell? Four grays coming through the room

through the window and they stink like farts. They smell like rotten eggs. And so she was like... Hot dogs. Yeah, exactly. You didn't smell like hot dogs. Yeah, making me hungry. And so they saw her

and she was like, oh, they're not here for me because I don't get those guys. I get the Nordics. Those are the ones that only come for me. And so they basically... So these people subscribe to the seven races or the 12 races? Yes, they do. The Nordics, the Pleiadians.

Lacey has seen reptilians. She's seen grays. She's seen in the bug ones, the Praying Mantis ones. Yeah. And so she saw the grays come in and she's like, oh, they're not here for me. They're here for Alice. She jumps on top of Alice to try to save her. All of this was only found out through regression. The aliens literally go like do-do

and like, zap her off of her. Yeah. She lifts up out of the room, right? Underscores amount of period of time goes by. She's floated back onto the bed. And then she sat and she said, she watched. She's like, you know... You know, I was watching them, I was watching them

and they don't know what to do with the blanket. They don't know how to put the blanket on her. The blanket I got from the closet that she brought. They lay it this way on her neck. Horizontally, it drapes in the floor as if to hold her down. Oh, they see me watching. And so basically a bunch of aliens were like, what is this?

Wrong blanket. They're trying to get the blanket on the bed but it's not the blanket for the bed. What kind of pain in the ass bridge breaks her own blanket to a hotel? I've got an idea. Just follow my lead, dude. Roll it up. So she woke up with a blanket tighter on her neck.

They just did not do it right at all. Make her seem comfortable. Yeah. They're just sleeping with tubes up their ass. I love that there are superior race of beads but they just can't figure out the pesky blanket. And so another story about Alice is that she was... So we've covered Dr. Roger Lear on this show.

Who is a podiatrist who has also become a surgeon hero of the alien abduction movement. Also one of the founding members of Sarah. He's been in the game a long time. Have you watched

interviews with Roger Lear and you watch him go from like normal doctor to like alien superstar and so it's him just... normally he's just wearing a lab coat and he's just like, we take a look for implants as much as... It cuts to his last interviews right before he died. It's him with like a diamond stud earring

and like a leather jacket on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got people zipping and zapping out of here. And so what he does is he provides free like surgery for people who say they have alien implants. So Alice slash Nancy Stoller went in to get that scoop mark checked out.

He basically excavated it and found a piece of... It's like a piece of glass that had fibrous things all over it that were like basically built into it to keep it in place and so he scooped it and they sent it off to a bunch of labs and they did a bunch of research on it and what happened was that later

at later abductions the aliens punished her for removing her implants and put one in her ear and basically fucked her up. She showed up and she's got all of these pictures of her just with bruises all over with puncture marks all over her. And what's the point of the implants of the implants?

Why do the aliens put it in? We do not know. We have no clue. I wonder if it's to get our just information on our bodies and stuff like that. Yeah, it could be some sort of reading mechanism information back to the graves. What if it's just a glorified step counter? Yeah, that would be kind of sad.

Wendy took 5,000 steps today. Diet is good. A pedometer? Yeah, that would be sad. There's a guy that she was talking about. She interviewed one of her first books, Yvonne Smith and was saying that he had the same thing where he got an implant removed and then he got brought up to a ship

and then during regression, basically the thing he kept remembering he was screaming was like, I'm me! I'm me! No! I'm the one! You did it! You already gave me the implant! Because the aliens were saying to him, we don't recognize you. Where's your implant? Where's your implant? He's just like, I'm me!

You know me! You know me! Like he's a guy at fucking a bar at last call trying to get his fucking credit going. Right, so leave the implant in is what you're saying. That's your best bet. Otherwise the aliens are just going to come back for you. They get real mad. And so they didn't touch Lacey that night,

but Lacey had been touched pretty badly earlier where she was basically, she had one of the strangest abduction scenarios I had ever heard in my life where she went to go see basically And these are the Nordics that abduct that abducted Lacey, right? The Nordics and Bugs.

What do the Nordics look like? They just look like Swedes. Oh, okay. Big, strong, handsome, beautiful people. So those are the ones you really want as opposed to the Greys or the Mantis people. She kind of got lucky with the Nordics. Yeah, they're technically the nice ones. And they were a bit perverted

by a man that we will cover on our episode next week. Bit perverted by a man named Adolf Hitler. Adolf Hitler, okay. You can compare the Nordics to the Aryan ideal of the Nazis. Yeah, and he may have been met a bunch of them

and he's like, oh, you look like me. Oh, we friends, we party buddies now. No one wanted to party with Hitler, you know. Everybody wanted to party with Hitler. They called it the Nazi party. Nazi party. That is fun. That is a good show.

That is great. Nazi schlufen. So the Nordics went and got this lazy. So she had a library around the corner for her house. And it's actually, it's like very trippy. She walked around the corner of her house to go to this library and she noticed there was a line of people just hanging

outside of the library waiting to get in for no reason. Humans. Humans. It is abnormal for Americans waiting for a library. They'll wait outside of a foot locker for a random basketball shoe. Right. So she walked in there, there was no librarian

on board and there was just an old man screaming about how there was no today's newspaper. And he was yelling about this newspaper, yelling about this newspaper, but she, this was in 1993. And so she was there to make a photocopy of an article of this UFO abduction case magazine that she was featured in

and she wanted to show somebody. So much different back then. I feel like we, we lose that going to the library micro fish making a copy like, and she was in the paper. Now you just get sent that in the link in your Facebook. The promise the way I do my research is that I can't even imagine doing it with any clothes on.

Right, right. That was built in 1992. Naked in the library for the third time. I bet I could find a dank basement in the library to do all my research. I'd be right at home. There's a little typewriter. So she walks in and she goes to the

copy room and all of a sudden her head really starts hurting. And she goes out of the library. It's basically, she's like, she gets really confused and she notices that the bottom of her feet and the back of her neck are covered in a clear liquid, like this goop.

Right? The go over. The bottom of her feet too. Yeah. Ben, Ben, say it, say it. What's that? Hot stuff? Yeah, it is hot stuff. I love feet. I'm getting big and good. That's disgusting. Anyway, let's move on.

So she goes back to the hotel. She goes back to her house and she realizes it's been five hours. So she's been gone doing past, basically doing some hypnotism regression. She goes up and basically reveals that she wakes up to a needle being stabbed into her gut

where a praying mantis is basically taking eggs from her and they're like, listen, don't worry about this. They're like, this is just a part of the process. You know how this is. We've been doing this for years, blah, blah, blah. They're very reasonable. They're always like, hey, no, no, no, no, no, you know what we're doing. And so

she's like, what, you know, like this has to stop. She's screaming in the same society. I don't want to do this anymore. It's a lot of money. Those eggs are very expensive. Very expensive. 20 grand it takes to get some eggs. Nobody wants red-headed semen, but those eggs. So they were like, no,

but do you remember the deal you made? She's just like, what are you talking about? And basically these praying mantis and her, like they show her all of her hybrid babies of all these things. And they're like, you take care of our children and we don't take your children.

And so like that was like a thing that they had set up. And so this is just them getting a nanny. This is essentially yes, because that's another thing in the abduction scenarios we see all the time. We were talking about the alien hybrids episode, which is like, they need our warmth. They need our emotions

to raise these kids. So that also works into some of the theories. I think Jacques Vallée puts forth is that the earth is essentially a gas station or an energy source that they use to feed off of our emotions. The grand theory

is that we are a part of what he calls a control environment. We live in a virtual reality, which is already true. They already talk about what they say about how we live in a hologram of reality. What that basically means is that our reality is real fucking thin

and on a micro level all the fucking all of the math breaks down. It is a bit like the theme of monsters ink the monsters feed off our fear. It's pretty much just monsters ink. If only we were looking at ability crystal.

So really our biggest quality that humans has, it is our emotions. It is our ability to feel. That's the one that aliens are smarter than us but they can't feel anything. This is also in a Steven Spielberg human universe where our emotions are important. This is like a doctor who

why David Tennant loves him. I just love you humans. I love you humans. No, it's very interesting and so basically what they're saying is that we need it so she then would get regressed for many more abduction scenarios afterwards and it's basically her just going up and breast feeding hybrids

and so she did that in order to keep them from them taking her children. So she gets a banana tit then. So they can take our semen using just a Dixie cup over our dick but they can't get a breast pump to just you know get a bunch of her. This is what I'm saying

but this is what they say. So it's all this ridiculous shit, right? Every time these aliens these high strangeness things happen because that Lacey is what happened to her they pumped a bunch of black fluid and down her throat they said to clear out her system and the same thing happened to another man that was abducted at the hotel Coronado that night

he woke up throwing up just gobs and pints and pints of black fluid and then he said he took a very strange dump as well. My fecal matter was particularly peculiar. I'm sorry

I am obsessed with this. This is the thing I take the most seriously is this whole thing. I was up late last night. So he's got odd dumps. He's vomiting crazy things. That's a sad time in your life when you start to really start to have to look at your dump

and analyze what it means. You should be looking at it now. I don't want to. You're gonna get cancer. I look at it every single time I don't. Oh yeah. You have to. Yeah you have to. Sometimes I'm proud. Yeah. That's a big pile.

Good for me. Those were the main abductions we can talk about in this episode in terms of those are the ones that are like the important ones. What I like is the ones that you did not cover in the outline. Mr. Phil Baxter.

These are all the same people that were at the same event at this village. The same night. The same night. Yeah. Very crazy. Yeah so he woke up. So basically he got really sick that morning. He said that I may have experienced something that night

but I'm not really sure what it was and the truth of what happened was so in the outline it does not say Phil Baxter was staying in this hotel room. They do not talk about a man named Gary that was also staying in the hotel room with him.

Now Gary sounds like a real pain in the ass. He is kind of a very weird man it seems like they said he was real particular about the room. He came in and they got sort of

lumped together. Phil Baxter so same scenario. He is lying back in bed at night. The room is illuminated with light. He wakes up to an alien next to him a gray black guy. So he's got a small black

wand in her hand. His hand. Who knows. It is it's a hand. It's alternately described as a black wand or a black rod. And it touches to his forehead. He wakes up on top of a a table sitting there with

a female gray in front of him. And he's just hanging out there and they got this wand and they're just kind of like tapping him with the wand tapping the wand and he's just like oh what's going on here. It's like what's happening here. They're like you know the drill.

It's going to be fine. We'll be done with you soon. We're just running some tests on you. It's really normal. Scratching at the bottoms of his feet. Which is another thing that I didn't realize. They literally go like yeah that sounds good though. I can go for one of those. It's like a pet egg. Yeah it seems nice. But at the same time

it's like imagine if yeah if Mike Lawrence was doing it with his hands. So the so the grays have really sweaty palms. Really sweaty palms. Mike Lawrence from the Nerd of Mouthpunks. He's great. And so he didn't realize that like Gary got picked up too.

But Gary is next to him getting fucking ripped. He's looking at Gary. He's getting torn apart. He literally he's sitting there watching and this alien's got kind of like poking him with a thing and he's watching Gary go like

ahhh Let's freak out. With a tube up the front of his dick and a tube up his ass. They're doing both. Hit him with all this stuff and they're like they're going at him and going at him and going at him

and he's just like what's going on? What are you doing to Gary? You know and they're like don't worry don't worry that's not going to happen to you. And he's just like well what do you mean? And he's just like you know what we mean. And he's like he said I have this overwhelming feeling like I was a member

of their family. And they're like there's some of you that were way more interested in than others. Some of you have more of a reason to be here and basically it was just this illuminating thing of just being like you were because he said that he grew up with these psychic experiences. Like he could

tell when earthquakes would happen. Like a dog. Yeah like a dog. And so Gary got the short end of the stick real hard. Yeah he got the long end of the stick really. And then when he woke up so he wakes up they wake up and he feels like oh I got a headache

man. Wake up to Gary in the bathroom screaming Phil. Phil. Come in here. I've got a mark on my penis. I've got a mark on my penis. And so they're like what are you talking about. And he's just like no I'm not fucking coming in there. I'm not going to come

and take a look at the mark on your penis. No there is a bruise in here with three puncture wounds on the tip of my penis. You don't want to see it. He's just like no man I lost the bet. Yeah they were just ready to room with you Gary. They were randomly chosen together. They told me it would

happen. I didn't believe them. So it's not including the outline. I want to just go and read some of what happened to Gary in her previous life. So Gary decided to meet Yvonne. Gary was a very reluctant member of the research society because it seems like he got a lot

of things happening to him. This was him as a boy. It seems like these aliens we might have it all wrong. We think that they abduct red necks but I think these might be the red neck aliens that are coming down here. They seem very they seem to be doing a lot of local yokel activities. They seem to be

to me it sounds like just a whole bunch of shots in the dark. They're just sort of experimenting but they have no idea what they're doing. Throwing some shit in there. They just have to have gallons of semen. Gallons of semen and what they're doing. What they're going to do with it. So poor poor

poor Gary. So he had a thing happen to him. He woke up as a boy on a Boy Scouting Trip. He woke up. So far we've got don't want to stay in Grandpa's house.

Now we've got Boy Scout Trip. He woke up with two scoop marks on both sides of his ass. He got it real bad and he woke up and he doesn't remember what happened to him. So finally it's he says while sleeping one night

and during him out of regression I woke to something touching my feet. I see you do it last night. It's September 1977 while sleeping one night. I awoke to something touching my feet there. At the foot of my bed were two small dark figures and I

I was like hey hey now. I saw them and I immediately fell back asleep. I believe this was an abduction experience. So I'd like to do some sort of hypnotic regression with you Yvonne. So

man this guy can really sleep through a lot of stuff though. I would stay awake if that happened to him. Oh yeah. Alright so he wakes up too. I think there's a light in the room. I think somebody is moving over to my shoulder. Yeah. I saw the guys. It's the guys I saw

at the foot of my bed. It's now standing there. I think he's looking at me. Oh he's touching my shoulder. Okay. I think we're moving to the window. I can't really be sure. Somebody's touching my forehead of my shoulder. Yeah. Okay.

Alright now they're touching again. On the left side. My body feels like it's shaking. They're touching me. Alright now they're touching me on my back. Down my spine. He's touching my spine. He's moving up and down my spine.

I don't think I have anything on. I don't think I'm wearing any clothes. Further down near my near my butt. They're at my butt. I think they're they're moving my legs. Oh they're they're opening my legs. They're opening my they're opening my butt.

Oh no. They're opening my butt. They're grabbing me. They're grabbing me on my penis. They're grabbing my penis off. It's gonna hurt. It's gonna hurt. This guy he says don't worry it's not gonna hurt you know

but I think he touched me with something. It's gonna give me an erection. I can't control anything. Oh I think you're sticking up inside me there. In my penis. They're sticking into the end of my penis. Some type of tube. It's a long

silver tube. Oh it hurts. It definitely hurts. I just feel tangly and I just got a light on it. The long silver tube. I think it's got a thing on the end of it. Sort of like a bigger tube. It's going into a bigger tube. Oh like a Russian doll type thing. Yeah and then they said that the tube attached to

a gigantic x-ray machine on the wall. Right? So that happened to him. So they opened up his butt huh? That is a visual I can't. I don't even know how to visualize the opening of the butt. It's the cheek thing and then you got the hole. Oh yeah and then so he walked it. You can visualize opening up of the butt.

Yeah I picture, I mean I have to picture Gary like Henry so I know what Henry's butt looks like because the whole goddamn world does. Two little butt cheeks. They're opening up my butt. Exactly what it is. This is his testimony from

after he was trying because like so like she basically she asked him like so so basically Yvonne was like so what happened after the fact like when you woke up that morning when that thing because he did not remember anything from the night at the hotel Coronado.

No. He did not remember anything but Gary and Phil's relationship fell apart. Like they were sort of talking before. Yeah but they were like because basically Gary locked eyes with Phil while they're on the abduction thing while he just watched him get raped and not doing anything. Yeah. He could have vouched for him.

Phil did not leave his room for the rest of the conference. No. He did not want to talk to anybody. He didn't want to interact with anyone. He just stayed inside. He saw some bad shit. He had to room with Gary and so just ruined it for anybody. This is just this.

This is where you could just see all of Gary's character so it's just like and so it's just like we carevanned up to Carl's bed where we had lunch or early dinner and that's when I mentioned the mark to a bunch of people and because he started talking about at dinner the night before he kept talking about how he's got a mark

in his penis. He wants to come and see the mark in his penis. Yeah. So finally I took Jesse inside the restroom with me. Jesse male or female? Yeah he's a male. Okay. And yeah because I wanted him so I wanted him to witness. I wanted to witness it. Yeah. Yeah you see I was trying to take photos of the mark

I was trying to take some photos of the mark for the people because it's like she's like so you try to take photos of the mark. 1994 so he picked up a disposable camera from the content. Legitimately that is stolen here. He would have to go and get that. Someone else would have to develop that feeling for him. So it's only got a

fun little surprise. You know I gotta say there was a lot involved in trying to take the pictures what it involved was trying to suck in my stomach I lay my penis erect not flaccid on top of a towel on top of the washing machine and maintain all of that

put it on the towel and my belly sucked in and my penis erect. This was the day after and in fact it became all too much. The only way you can see he has to get hard and suck in his penis and suck in his butt. Now the photographs just show a flaccid penis kind of

popping out over a fat belly. I like Gary. I like Gary. I gotta say I worked at a CVS developing counter. That's a very interesting job. You must have seen quite a few different sort of dick pics. I tell you about the fat old lady I saw

on a toilet with a red hat on. She was naked. She was totally naked sitting on a toilet and she had a red hat on and I made a bunch of extras of it and I put it all over my apartment. Oh man back in the day when you had to have somebody else handle your most private photos that was something special. So that's one story

and then there's another story about a woman named Melinda who was a person who was also abducted from the Hotel Del Coronado and different about her abduction scenario is that it was very clear she saw these gigantic

basically these gigantic chairs, these high chairs and she saw everybody there. She saw Gary she saw Phil she saw Alice slash Nancy she saw Lacey slash Lori she saw Mike and she saw a sea of tables

and there was a bunch of people sitting on like stools and they had these lawn attachments put to their heads because basically she was saying the aliens were explaining to her that aliens were looking from energy from our memories which is really interesting and she- Neurotransmitters Neurotransmitters and there was an article written

about it that she found it was about how electronic transfers to the brain can summon specific memories but what Melinda was a specific sufferer of was a thing called MELAPS which I didn't really understand with its own category

which is military abductions abduction that happened and on the spacecraft or during the abduction you see someone in military gear some of the most accurate sightings of UFOs come from military people and of course Hellyer has been all over the news the former Defense Minister for Canada

he's ruining his reputation on a daily basis. He's old he doesn't care this is just a quick run down of her various abduction scenarios and this will lead into the final topic of this this is just showing how many different scenarios happened in this night early 1990

two roommates witnessed military men shouting orders at me in the middle of the night I have no memory of this. July 27th 1993 missing time while driving with two friends taking my ETs with the man in naval uniform present monitoring the procedures we were each regressed by psychologists who said that each of us

called the same exact details. July 21st 1993 gynecological medical procedures performed by humans in an underground facility hazmat clean room environment I was regressed many times for this one. November 23rd 1993 flown on triangular ship miscommunications

grew up drugs administered and interrogated extensively about ET technology mid-1990s experience with a friend while traveling in Sedona, Arizona car stopped by military personnel and I was escorted away from my friend not regressed for this one but had conversations with a witness friend many years later about her memory

and my conscious memory I would have doubted if not for her detailed account late 1990s interrogation and threatened with a gun put to my head in a military tent on a base located in the California desert I was regressed for this one August 20th 2000 abducted with friend out of her apartment and taken to underground

base both of us were interrogated threatened and saw reptilian with the military photo evidence of break into home. November 2010 abducted with three friends out of a friend's house in Sedona Arizona taken to an underground base with military and ET's together all four of us were tested for psychokinetic

abilities regressed by Yvonne I'm just jealous these guys have so many close friends you know these guys are always hanging out with each other oh yeah birds of a feather my friend so basically we're seeing all of it we're seeing semen got collected

eggs got collected butts were opened butts were open everybody was there all in this one night all of this shit was kind of all tied together I think it's an important summary yeah of alien abduction yeah it's a real super storm of events there

that's pretty awesome but the one thing that we do have not talked about yet that is around that's basically a shadow on top of this whole experience is that Bill Clinton was there yeah Bill Clinton was at this conference the entire time Bill Clinton and his secret service and this was the

90s this conference this was 1994 two years into his first term so Bill Clinton why was Bill Clinton there well was it just something was it the aliens proving to Bill Clinton like hey listen we can abduct as many people as we want

whenever we want right under your fucking nose because the whole place was surrounded by secret service too whole place was surrounded by secret service so it could be if you will remember Eisenhower signed a contract with the grays back in 1954 650,000 people

signed to the grays for consumption exactly so Bill Clinton who by the way admitted on the Jimmy Kimmel show that as soon as he got into office he started requesting documents about aliens what kind of UFO encounters that we had

so it's possible that Bill Clinton came across this Eisenhower contract and said hey wait a minute this is fucked up we're not going to do this anymore these are American citizens because say whatever you want about Bill Clinton he loves the American people yes he does and he also several times brings up

the concept of if we were fighting with aliens we wouldn't be arguing right now exactly Bill Clinton obsessed with the movie independent stay he wanted to be an alien attack president he wanted Bill Pullman went to the White House himself

for a screening of independent stay Bill Clinton I found no less than seven different instances and this is just all I could find seven different instances of Bill Clinton mentioning independent stay and even some of them were a little bit of a stretch

he was facing a veto fight and this was like in 99 this is like the end of his presidency he was fighting there was a veto fight with congress and he said he made the following statement to a group of educators he said you know if we were being attacked by

space aliens we wouldn't be playing these kinds of games this is what I'm talking about and that was him too watching Independence Day and he's like oh that their president he didn't know that there were aliens I bet if I just do a little bit of digging yeah you can find it yeah yeah yeah because if you'll remember

because he said on Jimmy Kimmel he's like listen you know they didn't we didn't find anything about the aliens we didn't find anything there but if you remember Independence Day Bill Pullman's character the president he didn't know about the aliens either you can't trust Bill Clinton with the biggest

the biggest fucking secret in the world he would have said it to any truck stop woman that he met who was born to me but she'd be a little blown to me like you know there's aliens right the economy was booming our president was just researching aliens and finger pop and chicks that's all he was talking about

cigars and women and Hillary got the cigar ideas a matter of fact researching all the aliens that's his brown one exactly sure the whiskey has a similar tale but it's all about Bill oh yeah Hillary Clinton brought it up he compared aliens to UFO sightings to social security

on eight different occasions when the man found a comparison when the man found a metaphor he stuck to it and on the aforementioned Jimmy Kimmel appearance with Bill Clinton a man his name is Ben Hansen he's the host of the

sci-fi TV show Factor Fake Paranormal Files alright he did an in-depth analysis of Bill Clinton's body language and he noted that he had non-verbal cues of stress and evasiveness eye contact and use of

hands that's every politician whenever they're talking but especially when they're talking about aliens Clinton he had both he was using both hands as he talked he had both feet on his floor he described Hansen described him as having a defensive

stance when Jimmy Kimmel asked and when Jimmy Kimmel said oh you're trying to give me a hint that there are aliens Bill Clinton said no while nodding his head yet and that is the coup de grace my friend and but let's also remember

that Ben Hansen said he's not an expert in non-verbal communication but he does use the skills regularly in his work as the host of sci-fi networks Factor Fake Paranormal and with his wife who is sick of it that's awesome man great research

I know this was a very this was a very educational episode sort of I tried my best first coherent alien episode that we've done I think so as well and it's the first time I've ever heard of an alien just opening butts he opened my butt

he opened my butt it's dinner right now so we should have talked about it at the bar after you're right you're right I know you're in the middle of your Colorado skillet there but the one thing I do gotta say is that man they could be they could be using some thinner tubes

when they shove them right up the front of your dick there yep thank you Gary it's also anybody who continuously refers to their their penis as penis I just feel like if I'm getting a tube shoved up my my dick I'll be like my dick my dick my dick

instead of being like I can't the penis is the problem my penis my penis we'll check out your dicks later on tonight and make sure that you were never abducted and things like that is that three little dots is that what it is a bruise with three puncture wounds

on the tip of your dick and the other thing too is oh my god it could be herpes don't worry about it mark you know what I would also say too is that that's probably a good way to get somebody of the weirder persuasion into the old bedroom there

I mean if she's if she's wearing crystals and she's got like sort of a scarf for a shirt but also for a pants you can tell her that you have got an alien bruise on the tip of your dick and she will look at it you can also go for women who have corsets on although that is a longer

shot that is a longer shot and it's a deeper game you're playing because you're gonna have to already be at the renaissance festival and the corsets pop off it's a whole another world down there so be careful alright everyone march 23 through march 27 we're gonna be in the UK by your tickets we're coming we got

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