Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 166: Ed Kemper Part 2 - Momendorf

Episode Date: March 18, 2015

We wrap up our Ed Kemper two parter with all of his gruesome murders, from his copulation with the disconnected heads of his victims to the eventual treatment of his mother to the same fate.

There's no place to escape to this is the last time on the left That's when the cannibalism started I'd like to say for one as we start the show I Believe Robert Durst is innocent. Why are you coming out in favor of Robert Durst? I think he's cute and fun, and I think he's sweet and I think he's got a bad rap You love him for the money Henry you want to pull an Anna Nicole Smith and marry that millionaire I'm just saying if he gave me a chance I could make the final years of his life in jail sweet years

So well in jail, you know, I just every man has his reasons I don't want to put that as a sort of blanket term for all murder, but I think with Robert Durst and specific in Specific terms he has had his reasons. Yes. I he killed his wife Absolutely killed just because you didn't like her though, but that's not a good reason to kill some it's a reason There's a reason for everything he killed that old man in cold blood and fucking chopped up his body with him with a bone saw Yeah, he was old he was in the 60s and that takes physical work. Yeah, that's hard right I I'd say they should give him a medal for you to be able to crack that guy's fucking spine

In order to rip his head off. There's an order rip his head off He couldn't get the bone saw through his fucking neck bones. How many times, huh? You know he had to step on the neck and literally wiggle the head back and forth until it came off the body And that takes Reasons Robert Durst a man of Reasons it's good to treat somebody treat your neighbor's head like a toddler's tooth just to wiggle it out Yeah, what I said when I was off what I think is a good way to get a homeless man sad a near homeless man's head We're over misbodies you tie a little string about it tie it to a doorknob slam the door

Well, all right All right Robert Durst defense I mean he made a bit of mistake with the reality show usually when you're a triple murderer You like to keep a little hush hush, you know, but he started speaking well P And and that'll get anybody in trouble. I can defense attorney that whole confession, but I won't do this here I do believe I believe that you can say he was Sarcastically running out of conversation to himself Well, perhaps we'll cover Robert Durst and millionaire murderers on another episode

But now we got a guy who's actually good at murder and he is poor as hell. Oh It's part two of mr. Edmund Kemper's story We haven't really gotten to the gruesome dark stuff, but we're about to get into it now now. This is uh, yeah Let's get let's really get digging to this fucking huge loser Again back to talk about like Edmund Kemper Largely in my mind the biggest sociopath murderer not even just physically I think like in terms of deep sociopathy. He is up there In terms of hell of a good bartender and no one gives him credit for that was he yeah, yeah, he's a bartender

Yeah, that's what it was. Huh? No working at a bar. No, he wasn't he just hung out at the bar He drank at a bar. Well, I'm sure they let him behind the bar over now and again to sling suds Have you been telling bartenders that you're a bartender? You can walk behind the bar Walking to the bar the the way is okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. I'm a bartender It's I know where all the gin is and no world about guys and I'll give you a tip. It's in my belly Right you walk in you're the bartender then you get to drink. Um, so this is we're getting into Edmund Kemper's first Victims we've now watched him. So he's rehearsed a lot. Yeah up into this point

Which I also think is a very big difference between him and other serial killers is the straight-up rehearsal time It takes 10,000 hours to become an expert practice practice practice. How do I get to prison in the future practice practice practice? Yeah, he has been practicing for quite a while and he does you'll remember he does already have two murders under his belt He has killed his grandparents at this point. Grandparents don't count. They do they count for one They definitely do though. So it's on May 7th, 1972 when he cannot resist the urge any longer He picks up two college girls Mary and pesky and Anita Luchesa. They're hitchhiking on a freeway ramp He describes Mary as haughty stuck up not beautiful not ugly and Distance you know because in opposite town

It does seem like that because the last thing I think of a hitchhiker when I see them is oh, they come from class Look at that wealthy woman just hitchhiking like everyone should give her a ride for free But in this time period it really was very true like there was a lot of hitchhiking was very very normal The Hilton's of the world weren't doing it. It was still a very middle-class mode of transportation It was Wilton Hilton the 80-year-old progeny of the entire family who created the Empire He wasn't hitchhiking because he was riding slaves in 1972 he had a slave he did yes, and he's hopped on his back for

Um, but this is we're gonna see this is where the pattern emerges where he views a woman who does not immediately Engage with his nice guy personality and he views her as stuck up haughty one of the bitches that his mom won't let him meet And all he wants to do is um Rape Yeah, yeah, yeah This girl Mary and pesky she was an experienced hitchhiker She didn't want to get into her red flags immediately went off because for one This is something a little mistake that he made as far as picking up like doubles. He had a coop

His Ford Galaxy didn't you had to pull the seat back which is a very creepy thing to do because essentially you get that back Seat if you can't get through the front seat you're trapped in the car completely trapped So Mary and didn't want to get in but Anita who was new to hitchhiking and thought oh this big man He's fine. She convinced her to get in and Ed also pulled the watch watch. I got someplace to be I'm sorry. I gotta go to the giant shoe store there They're bringing in a shipment of leather to make me some new heels. I'm a performer So they were going to Stanford University Ed He knew the entire area very well from his time at the highway department

And so he started driving them around without them knowing that he had changed directions He wasn't going to Stanford University. He was going to a remote location Classic maneuver truly though that has got to be very frightening when he's saying that basically you're an hour into your trip And you're like where the hell are we going and he's just like eep and he pulls that 22 out from underneath his seat Yep, he pulled a 22 caliber handgun from underneath the seat He started by handcuffing pesky into the back seat and about what he told her here's what he said I said, you know, I'm running the show here or some cliche. There's absolutely no Contact with improper areas. In fact, I think once I accidentally this but this bothers me too personally

I brushed I think with the back of my hand against one of her breasts when I touched it and it embarrassed me I even said whoops. I'm sorry whoops. Yeah Yeah, classic and this is what a fucking but this is the deeper deeper lie You're down looking at when he starts when these quotes all come from the confessions that he made like literally Either it was minutes up to after he was caught to like a couple of months Yeah, and so these confessions were for his benefit. That's it. That is my perspective on him always I would just say don't let him handcuff you, you know, just yeah, just go with the no I mean start running. He's got a 22 caliber handgun

I mean you're gonna get shot with handcuffs on or without him. Yeah, I would say go with a flail I am a I am a squealing Twisting monster You'll never catch me And I won't stop till I'm dead the nightmares that person will remember if they can just have the last memories being Henry squealing Flailing around there and they'll never they'll never kill again This is but he also talked about his move the move he did to pull the 22 He said that he would because he had escalated over time is that he would practice it

And he would keep the gun next to underneath his leg And he said he would sit in the car by himself and pretend and basically practice pulling it and pulling it It's kind of pulling it you got it It's like when you're a kid in the playground and you count down three two one you take the shot and you make it But he was doing that with a gun sitting in this car and everyone's just like why isn't this car moving? He's like I'm practicing my gun work. Yeah, I'm just doing my buzzer beater Okay, so he takes luchessa out of the car after he handcuffs pesky and he locks her in the trunk He comes back to pesky and he does this as as a part of he believes that's showing sympathy

Yes, because he says he's like well I don't want to see what I'm about to do to her friend It's the same thing that he did with it that he just used to justify killing his grandfather's that he said that he didn't Want his grandfather to see his Wives bullet-ridden corpse slumped over her children's little did he know his grandfather wanted to see that every single Day he was alive if he opened up his journal even once he would have seen he had sketched it So he comes back to pesky who still handcuffed in the back seat He throws a plastic bag over her head because he said I had this nifty idea about suffocate

I'd say it's pretty keen. Mmm. Yeah, definitely. So next he wrapped a bathrobe belt around her neck He pulled on the belt the belt snapped and pesky bit through the bag And I've got an interview clip and this is what he said happens next I pulled a knife out. I still had the gun in my pants. I Stabbed her. She didn't fall dead. You're supposed to fall dead. You're supposed to go. Oh and fall dead I've seen it in all the movies, right? It doesn't work that way when you stab someone they leak to death They lose blood pressure and you stab them more and more and more you complicated many times by where you're hitting the pain

You're causing and the aggravation of the person involved plus whether or not they leak a little faster It wasn't working with the dam. I stabbed her all over her back and She even turned around I stabbed her in the side and the stomach once why as she turned around I could have stabbed her through the heart but her breasts were there and It actually deflected me. I couldn't see stabbing a young woman in her breast That's embarrassing. I didn't say that to them back then. I don't think I may have but that's humiliating to admit that that I was that affected by her presence. I

Stabbed her in the belly. It had to hurt worse. I didn't do it to make it hurt. I was trying to shut her up and she ended up getting her throat cut and I learned the term ear to ear what that meant because that's the way it went absolutely Interesting what a fucking piece of shit nerd I think like it's a thing where it's just like he just totally thinks that that that reverence like makes up for it He really does and he does and while he's even describing it He's so distant from it saying the term she ended up getting her throat cut is like she did it Yeah, yeah, because that's what he was saying is that while that loving term that that loving thing when he's talking about her

Beauty and like a wanting to stab her in the breast up until then he called her straight up stone cold stuck up bitch Yeah, um the leak is a strange word. Yeah. Yeah spurt or drip or leak is accurate. Yeah. Yeah We're just bags of meat Ben. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I'm well aware Full of soft meat So he just had this gun with him the whole time and why didn't he just use that because he forgot he had it Yeah, basically you're gonna find out later He forgot he had it stuck in his pants and he forgot to use it. Well, when you're big you can lose things on yourself I've seen you do it. I've seen you how many times you're like, hey Henry do I got shoes on

So with Pessie bleeding out in the backseat he basically goes over to kill the other like it's a kill me Yeah, when he opens up the trunk And Anita asks what happened to my friend and lied he said I broke her nose because she wouldn't do what I wanted So you need to come and help her so Anita gets up and at Ed reaches into the trunk And he brings out a knife called the original buffalo skinner Yeah, which he also called the general which is such a nerdy thing Go get the general. Yeah, and he stabbed her in the throat eyes heart and forearm And he also said that he was surprised how many stab wounds it took before she lost conscious

He said she was wearing really thick overalls and the knife wouldn't properly like literally bounced the first time he did it And he said he the first time he hit her he hit her so hard It flew her up on to the roof almost onto the roof of the car. Yeah, right And did he stab her boobs or he didn't stab her boobs either. I don't think no boobs He's got a lot of reverence for the boobs if you haven't noticed by now Yeah, which is just sounds like a dude with a fucking Xbox headset And he said about the knife it was very expensive about eight or nine dollars that is expensive Wow, an eight or nine dollar knife you say in 1972 money that had to have been

$1920 this cup of coffee was three I can't even kill a co-ed with this cup of coffee Did you know for just triple the price you could get a knife that could skin a woman? Yes, so he drove back home towards Alameda and like a lot of other guys he got stopped by a police officer He was stopped for a broken tail light, but of course he knew exactly how to talk to cops And Kimper said during the entire interview he was excited and he had the officer He said that had the officer decided to just do a routine check and look into the trunk where the two bodies were Kimper would have shot the cop in the back of the head would have just killed him

Because that's what he's a big detail, too But that first crime is that when he basic when he stabbed her and he put the bodies in the trunk And he closed the trunk for the first time he panicked because he couldn't find his keys Yeah, and he was saying that he was like oh my god. Oh my god I've lost my keys in the back of the car like I'm fucked. I'm fucked and he ran He was like I'm gonna run and that's how we realized he had forgotten about the gun is that the gun had fallen down inside of His pants and he tripped over the gun like a fucking huge Bumblebutt tripped over the gun bumblebutt and then had to go back and he was just like all right Ed

Check every one of your pockets. It's like all right. Okay. No, this is right. This is a chicken wing This is a big fun. Ooh paper cow. We have work. I almost got that over at suds. What's up? Here's my here it is. He was gonna shoot himself in the leg with a gun like Plexigirl Burris It sounds like it was just in his pants He's got a stop wearing stretch pants or sweatpants to the murders stop being so casual Indeed so he gets home Carries the corpses into his apartment, which by the way he is sharing with a friend of his What is your roommate do exactly? Oh, you know, it seems like um, he does a lot of it seems to be amateur surgery

Otherwise, he's a fun guy cool guy, you know hangs out with cops cool guy. Yeah, you know He go takes him inside. He dissects the bodies by the way, his roommate was out of the apartment that night Yeah, yeah, yeah, he had curling practice. Yeah, Eddie. I'm going to curling practice I won't be back for five hours. So if you do happen to kill two co-eds you want to skin him in the living room tonight's the night to do it Okay, bye Oh, I didn't even think about doing that The roommates to blame for all of this. Yep He dissects the body snap the pulse snap some Polaroids cut the heads off and then had sex with the various parts of

What remain and talk about a guy who really jumped right deep into the cycle killer Mike Yeah, and this is the other thing too is that like I think to be honest if I were just member a woman I wouldn't I wouldn't remove the head last because what I admire most about a woman is her personality Well, it's all in the head, but she's dead. No, but she's yeah, but there's some kind of block in my mind Of like like how could she be talking to me and joking around with me if her head's not attached to her body? Well, Ed Kimper about that actual about that exact point He said with the girl there's a lot left in the girl's body without the head. Of course the personality is gone Yeah, that's one of the things about murdering a woman

You lose all of her charge. It's all the conversation you miss, right? When about the heads he said I remember there was a actually a sexual thrill You hear that little pop and pull their heads off and hold their heads up in the air Whipping their heads off body just sitting there. Mm-hmm. That'd get me off Yeah, that's it that you know when you know when you're just about to come there and the head pops right off, Jaddy You know I just shoot anyway. I just keep shooting even worse Yeah, I mean and I gotta tell you and I'm a Marilyn Monroe guy. I like a girl with a normal figure lover So he keeps the heads for a little while on one occasion

He said that he was just sitting there staring at one of the heads that he had rested on the chair across from him The head became unsettled somehow It rolled off the chair and a human head by the way weighs about as much as a bowling ball Yeah, yeah seven eight pounds hits the ground with a huge thud and Ed said the neighbor downstairs hates my guts I'm always making noise late at night. He gets a broom and whacks on the ceiling buddy I say I'm sorry for that drop my head. Sorry That helped bring him that helped bring me out of the depression and that's the bravest luckiest neighbor of all time Yeah, I feel like even in New York specifically even if the neighbors knew you were dismembering a body

Yeah, it would still be like keep it down. Oh, yeah, I'd still bring the broom out I got a driver train at six o'clock in the morning Hey listen, hey, listen, you're gonna be the cap-tape bitches up in your apartment when I gotta ask you to do I don't mean to stop on your business, buddy. All I'm gonna ask you to do put down a couple blankets I might just turn up the Netflix. I might let the whole thing go I don't know so after he's done with the body See puts the remains in a plastic bags and buries them in the Santa Cruz Hills torso and limbs in one location

Hands in a second and he disguised the burial grounds with techniques. He learned from the Boy Scouts The same place he learned how to use the Buffalo Skinner general The Boy Scouts teach you how to be a Nazi and they also teach you how to kill women It's a bad organization. It's a bad organization. Yeah, and it's because they won't let gay kids in there I've heard that if there was gay kids in there, there'd be a fashion design to badge and they'd be wearing nice clothes It's a little bit stereotypical there. Well, there'd also be a fucking sous chef badge But they would learn how to make fancy sauce. Oh, okay. Well, I might join now Yeah, so the heads he kept for a few more days

Orally copulating with them before that is a very nice way of saying face You know what? I tried to be as sensitive as I possibly could with that one You know because because that's what he would even say he would call it humiliating the corpse. Yeah, he specifically Viewed that as a humiliation technique. Yeah, and also it's just a you just get sick of masturbating I know I'm single. I've lived in a hotel for a long time You know, I mean, I'm not really at the point where I'm in a sever a human head and use it as a flesh light But it's mostly just because I like freedom and I don't want to yeah It's just weird when your to-do list is like get the hitchhikers kill them put them in a baggy

Disrespect the corpse check That's just a bizarre day. Yeah milk and eggs. Don't forget the eggs So after he orally copulated with the heads he just chucked him into a ravine Yeah, the girls were reported missing but because as Henry said earlier hitchhiking was such a you know People were just very transient then right hitchhiking was a big thing people would disappear for weeks at a time So when these girls were reported missing police didn't really do anything and they didn't find pesky's head until nine days later And Nita they haven't found her remains at all to this day. Yeah, that's for the best, you know You know it also is you know a flesh like and go in the dishwasher. Yeah. Well, nah, you don't need to put in the dishwasher

You know now you just you're not talking about your flesh like Marcus It is so disgusting and disturbing and for about five years now still going strong Oh, wow, you see it hasn't lost any of its its tautness. Absolutely not. They're very well made Wow It is disgusting So now we basically see this is a Kemper style has been completely set It is just like right out of the gate, which is really interesting because normally killers build yeah to this But it feels like his his rehearsal and his fantasy life was so deep and intense. It's like he knew exactly what he wanted It's like Russell Wilson. He won the Super Bowl when he was a rookie. He thought about it

He thought about it. He got there and he did it. I thought I you know what it is a lot like that It is yeah, and he said he characterized it as making dolls out of people because they couldn't they couldn't reject them You know, so that was as after he cut off the heads. There was no rejection whatsoever Yeah, you got to sell them if you're gonna make them and although he later recanted And said that this statement was only meant for his insanity defense on at least two occasions He cannibalized his victims slicing flesh from their legs and cooking it in a macaroni casserole Oh, isn't that kind of a nice place to put human flesh the Midwest such a no Yeah, it's really strange that it's a California casserole because they're not really known for their casserole

No, that's why everyone loves having it over for potlucks because he brought that Wisconsin flare even though he was from California How do you know like he grew up in Montana? Oh, there we go? I love But I will say this is that we see a lot with killers to who dabble in cannibalism because I don't view him as a cannibalistic killer I just think that when your perversions are so intense. Yeah, and you're dealing a lot of shit You kind of look at something like Little bit But he did eat it. Yeah, he's a cannibal. Yeah, I mean technically he's a cannibal I mean, that's all that we can run on but I wouldn't call him a cannibal

I'm gonna call Michael Jordan a baseball player Technically he was technically but you don't think of him like that. Look at percentage of career Right. All right. If the majority of his career was spent looking for people to eat I'm he's not going into the Hall of Fame for baseball But I'm just saying you did play baseball. Yeah. Yeah. No, I get it. I mean, I think we're in agreement agreement here Okay, I'm sorry. I'm just gonna say it. It's all his resume. You but it's not the top of the resume Kill and cook someone put into a casserole. You're a cannibal. Yeah, it's under skills It's like how you would you would probably list Microsoft word under your skills, right? Parasailing. Yeah, I lie

I usually lie on that part can a dabbler Yes, so all of his victims were chosen randomly on the spot This wasn't a planned thing where he would plan out victims and almost all of his murders from here on out would occur After fights with his mother he'd have a knockdown drag-out fight with his mother He'd get extremely angry and he'd say like all right I'm going out tonight's the night that I'm gonna fucking do it He said his rage is what really drove him and he said he would go on these rages where he was just like You know anybody who got my car was gonna die that night

Yeah, he said when someone put their hand on my car door handle They were giving me their life because after he killed these first two girls He went back to just picking them up and taking them safely to their destination because that's also a distancing thing too Because originally he said the behavior was just for him to learn how to talk to girls So he went back to it be like why I can actually do this again that I got now I'll have a bit cooling off period I can talk to women again and just kind of work it up and he said that what he would do is They would get in the car and the first thing they'd all talk about is the guy who killed those hitchhikers and then he would you would be like

Well, what do you think a guy like that would be like and they would be like oh, you know And they would describe somebody and then he would start to learn how to even deeply mold his persona Yeah, so then that's why you started wearing the blonde wigs and wearing the fake mustaches or yeah That had to be a very fun conversation for him to have with those people about the killer the same reason He talked to the cops about it But he said your God complex out because they know less than you do he was wearing the Google glasses talking with somebody who had No information at all, but he definitely said that if they brought up the killer at all He were definitely safe because he was too embarrassed to then kill them good note

So if you get into a car just so what what about that killer, huh? Just no matter where you go no matter what you do you never know when you're with the presence Yeah, I mean that's just kind of my practice anyway start talking to a stranger Just immediately start jabbering about killers. Yeah, that's what I always do. Yeah, that's what I mean I mean, it's a compulsion rather and I don't really and I'm uncomfortable I don't know what else to talk about because that's all I think about It's all I think about how reality is a thin fucking veil and we live in a hologram of a deeper deeper math And it's harder to talk about that with someone

Just go around the table real quick successful dates in the last month successful dates in the last month I got none last night I had I had about three glasses scotch and I watched the wire for two hours not a date. Oh, that's not no no another person Okay, it's a date with Henry. I Got lucky. I got real lucky. Okay. No, no, no so he kept that whole shroud of picking up girls and Just taking another destination for four months until September 14th 1972 Me and Henry were talking about this before and this is probably the saddest victim

This really makes me very sad all these victims are very sad like that They're all extremely sad because these are among the saddest victims because these are you know I mean not to say that you know other victims are worth less or anything because we always talk about the less dead and all this But these are you know, just truly innocent victims Yeah, at least if Gacy killed you you got to hang out with an up-and-coming democratic politician or Congressmen You were drinking and doing drugs. It's kind of like the Jason You know the freight Friday the 13th night or an Elm Street type thing I'll be unlike well Maybe you should have been naughty and you wouldn't have been buried in the crawl space

Not to victim blame Ted Bundy's adorable kind of a dreamboat guy Jeffrey Dahmer definitely got you wasted Damn before he started trying to drill in your head, but I go coo monster I go coo is a very sweet girl that I guess that that was his next victim picked up It was 15 years old ballet dancer. Yeah, she was hitching She was going to San Francisco for a ballet class. She missed her bus Really wanted to make that class so she made a sign that said San Francisco So he picks her up and he doesn't even wait until he gets to a secluded spot This must have been a horrible fight with his mother because he pulls out the gun while they're still on the road

It's probably about how he farted on the no fart couch. Yeah, I mean, you know Yeah, he pulls out the gun and he told her that he was planning on killing himself and he wanted someone to watch it But he told her that if she screamed or signaled to anyone at all that something was wrong He would kill her as well And this is extreme very interesting a very interesting thing at one point He gets out of the car and accidentally locks himself out with the gun inside the car Oh, that is goofy. Yeah, he said she could have reached over and grabbed the gun at all But he said she probably never gave it a thought she was so terrified

Because she was a tiny little 15 year old girl absolutely and he's a giant monster a six foot nine month 300 pound monster He was now locked out of the car get the gun. Yeah, no, she lets him back in. No, no Yeah, she's no Sigourney Weaver. Well, you just gotta get the gun use the gun So he drives her out to the mountains only minutes from the house of one of the case investigators That's one of those things about Los Angeles in California and specifically it's like basically it's got tiny little houses Surrounded by these mountains. You basically go up to those mountains and you disappear. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you really do So he tries to suffocate her first by placing his fingers up her nostrils But she was able to fight her he was a she was able to fight him off

but eventually he strangled her with her own scarf and after she was dead he later on the ground raped her and Said he achieved orgasm within seconds, right? So it was sort of three stooge ish ish, you know getting locked out of the car then with the fingers in the nose But then it got real that's a thing it goes straight from three stooge is to that Spanish movie irreversible. Yeah Yeah, yeah, it really does so after he kills her he places the body in the trunk and drives her home But not before stopping for a beer. He goes inside of the bar He has a couple of beers he walks back into the parking lot and opens the trunk admiring my catch like a fisherman this term admiring my catch like a fisherman is another thing of just like what a deeply

Deeply distanced man. He is from himself. Yeah disconnected from everything disconnected from the world at large So he takes the corpse back to his apartment cuts off the head and hands and has sex with the corpse He the next morning. He buries the body in one location the hands at another and with her head in a bag Drives to his court mandated psychiatrist appointment. So how are things going Ed? You know, I think they're pretty good. I think I'm getting well I mean, I can tell you exactly what the psychiatrist thought of them that day

The report said from the first I he saw two psychiatrist that day The report said if I were seeing this appointment without having any history available or without getting the history from him I would think that we're dealing with a very well adjusted young man who had initiative intelligence and who was free of any Psycho psychiatric illness It is my opinion that he has made a very excellent response to the years of treatment and rehabilitation And I would see no psychiatric reason to consider him to be any danger to himself or to any member of Society it's almost like your medical field is flawed. You shouldn't technically be called a doctor and the second appointment actually used the words normal and safe Both recommended the ceiling of his juvenile records juvenile records as a way to help him become a better citizen

Thus eight years after he had killed his grandparents Kemper gained his complete and total freedom Yes, you are a psychiatrist just at the end of every single paper just dot-dot-dot also might be a killer And let's play on what it actually was going on on the interior of Edmund Kemper's mind during these psychiatrists sessions To be walking up the stairs with a camera bag It belonged to a young woman that had her severed head in it Walking up to my apartment past a happy young couple coming down the stairs who nodded and smiled at me As they went by good evening And they're going out on a date for I'd love to be going and I'm aware of both of these realities and the

Distance between those two is so dramatic so amazing so violent that That really I could feel the wheels squeaking inside that was really pulling on it and I imagine at that point some people break But I didn't literally go insane. I didn't get lost And all this time. Yeah, he was doing totally good. Totally. I did not go crazy though I mean he could have just had a date with one of these women at the same time You just don't kill them and then you might maybe get to ask him out after this The thing is is that if you don't have much past like hitchhiker pattern, you're not gonna do well on dates

Yeah, I mean as the conversation between pickup and hitchhiker are not like we're not talking about like Great shit. I mean, I don't know. I've never hitchhiked. Maybe you do get into nice like cool interesting conversations with people I think it's very awkward. Yeah, it must be a little awkward up top, but then you gotta you gotta find a way I'm sure that he had a sentence that he said to all of these people in the very beginning. You got pretty hair I wonder what it's like laying on the ground, you know, it's separate from the rest of your body. Well It's gonna rain here, son What I would also say About him is that also that statement to me shows how deeply nuts he was

Oh, I mean in terms of sociopath because I feel like it's more of a deviousness to it when he talks about how like he could have been He could have went insane, but he was too strong to go insane that he would he did, you know, like he was he could face it Oh, he sees himself as the hero in this story Yeah, like he sees himself as a hero because he didn't kill anymore because he turned himself in I don't actually don't know the reason why But after he kills a cuckoo, he moves back in with his mother. Hey, you know You know when they say like certain songs would like come out of one specific guitar Yeah, it's an old shitty guitar. Oh, yeah, like trigger like Willie Nelson's guitar. It's a great guitar But yeah, it's the guitar that all of his best songs all his best songs are written on. Yeah, get back to the source

mostly trigger is a bit of a Is a touchy word for Willie to be yelling across a bar No, it's the guitar the one with the rope around its neck. I mean strap, okay Okay, well, how's about Lucille? I like Lucille. That's a name that can't be you know, yeah Rachel slur immediately. Oh, well trigger is more. It's more the name of a horse, but well, okay That's a different story So Kemper didn't kill again until he bought a 22 caliber pistol in January and he said I went bananas after I got that 22 Bananas wow positively conquers. That's amazing. I love it

He just treats it like a game of candy crush That's insane. So the same day he bought the gun on January 8th 1973 he picked up Cynthia shawl who made a habit of hitching rides to Cabrillo College He brings out the gun again keep out while he's driving. He drives her to a town called freedom Ironic, I'm very ironic and stopped on a quiet road He shoots her dumps her body in the trunk and took her home She was a big girl So Ed struggled to get her upstairs his mother came home right as Ed was stuffing her into the closet

And he just talked to his mom normally What are you doing? You want to get chicken head? Ed, you want to go get some chicken? What are you doing in there, Ed? You're jerking off? You pervert! You're disgusting pervert, Ed! I just can't think of can't stop thinking of throw mama from the train The mother from the Goonies the greatest bad mother of all time. Mom, I'm hanging out with a friend Mom, I'm having a good time with my friend. Oh my goodness He returned to the room and he carefully removed the bullet from her skull And he does this again and again when he

shoots the person in the head he always removes the bullet from the skull first all business Because he's also a he's a student. Yeah, and he understands since he's been hanging out with cops all the time And he faints is himself a fucking little genius that he's like all I know how to get rid of all of the evidence Yeah, but on the other hand he does. Yes, if he wouldn't have turned himself in I don't think they would have caught him until he would have gone into a berserker Well, we'll talk about it when we get there, but he definitely don't know when they did not know They had no clue who the killer was yeah, no idea So the next day he brought the corpse back out had sex with it before dissecting the body in the shower

with an axe How big of a gal are we talking here? Uh, I mean, I don't have the exact dimensions just larger. I mean larger than the others Yeah, because he usually went for petite women. Right. That was his that that was kind of his type But for some reason Cynthia shawl just you know, she had a twinkle in her eye, I guess. Yeah, I don't know So after he drained the body of all of her blood He carved it into pieces bagged up all the pieces and threw him off the cliff He had sex with the head for several days before burying it in the yard. Now. This is a very interesting

Uh detail. Yeah, it's very very interesting He buried the head right outside of his window in the ground and facing towards the house And he said that he would have is a sort of boyfriend girlfriend like relationship with the image of her head Where he would sit in bed and talk to her at night and they would have like a thing back and forth And there was also but then there's another theory that he said that he buried it in the head to mock his mother Yeah, because he said that his mother always wanted people to Look up to her. That's funny stuff It's fun little puns like that that make him the charmer. We know him to be

I love it. It's sort of like a jack in the bean stock But instead of beans, it's a human head and instead of a giant. He's finding love Which is kind of nice Well, both of those stories come from him Because as we said at the beginning of the first episode his story changes depending on who he's talking to Yes, and what kind of effect he wants to get what kind of effect he wants and I think he's also good at reading people So he can tell I think he knows what the person wants to hear He has a narrative. He has a story that he tells each time

It's the same story just with different details straight up has like tonight show bits And they talk about it because there's another quote that we have later on But are we going to play where basically a guy Interrupts him in the middle of his story and he's like wait wait wait wait wait you're going to ruin a bit there And it's like this he literally says it because it's it's rehearsed Patter. Yeah, it really is he has a rhythm. He knows exactly. He has no idea how to be a real person No, he doesn't a total robot that is like that He's a sociopath every single thing he does is highly rehearsed and highly put together because he has no real personality

It is just a it's just a combo of factors that he has like put together He really was so it's like this this is a truly dangerous man. Yeah that needed to be put in Well, we already all know that. Yeah Eighth eighth head now or something so less than two days later Dismembered arms and legs were found on a cliff overlooking the Pacific Ocean Then I get him into the water buddy. He didn't throw it far enough. Get him into the water There's a funny thing is that he threw he was able to make the torso into the water But the arms and legs didn't make it. I guess he was winded from the torso. I guess so

You know sometimes big guys got that natural hook Yeah So they identified uh shawl through lung x-rays Eventually the lower torso came in a surfer also found her left hand which offered fingerprints But her right hand never washed up The media at this point in a huge panic because not only if we remember correctly Ed Kemper Was not the only killer in Santa Cruz, California at this time There was also Herbert Mullen who had racked up who racked up 13 in a big spree murder capital of the world

Yeah, murder capital of the world one report one reporter. Uh, her name was Marilyn Baker Uh, she was a big tabloid lady. She consistently exaggerated rumors and offered uncorroborated information as fact Uh, she gave daily reports of of course Blamed it on satanic rituals. Well now everybody. It's a great scapegoat. Yeah, and it makes great news Yeah, and she's also she's saying shit like she suggested that the killer was a lesbian or a transvestite She started putting in these weird details that all of them all the murders occurred on Mondays after dark and during a full moon That's just gonna fun because also what it does. It's a cool. It's fun. It's fun. Super fun. Yeah But it's also a way to differentiate the crimes. It also makes you again

It's the idea of putting order to it. Yeah, instead of it just being some random in they can't five They can't find they're basically saying it's a part of an established magic group now that everybody is is doing hippie Dippy bullshit and wearing lanyards all the time. Well, they think that they can blame it all on that They've got to go find that lesbian satanic group that is also Transgendered and then boom you've got your killers. Let me in the room with them. That sounds amazing. Yeah I want to be in a lesbian satanic coven. No, I'll be a fun. I'll be fun for it. I mean a chef Yeah, maybe if you're the chef, but yeah, I think you're supposed to take it a little more seriously So so many girls go and miss and of course there were complete there were constant warnings for them to not get in

The cars with strangers, but ed had a secret weapon because the university had decided to institute a bus system That would assist off-campus students getting safely to campus and it was a sticker Ed had a sticker that his mother had given him a university issued sticker So he could easily get in the campus and pick her up from work Yeah, because that's what they said is that they were like nobody get into a car that doesn't have a sticker And so he had a big sticker and had a letter a on it, which meant he had all access to see the entire campus Yeah, and he said even though it's amazing that all it takes is a 25 cent probably a 10 cent sticker at this time

Yeah to make everyone just give you full 100 trust. Yeah, and uh his next victims He used that sticker to his advantage Uh February 5th 1973 had a violent fight with his mother ed called it a real tiff Uh and drove to campus jackson drove on campus where his mother worked If we're gonna have a thwart couch, I don't know thwart couch Then they need to not be next to each other. That's true because when you got a fart Yeah, you just want to do it right there on the couch He picks up roslyn thorp who was just coming out of a lecture and then picked up 20 year old 21 year old

Alice lu he shot both of them in the head while they were still on university grounds And in one account kimper said that two young men were at a security gate But when they saw kimper's university sticker, they just waved him right on through And in another account kimper said that the guard he told the guards that the girls were just drunk And he was just trying to get them home. Of course. Of course 3 p.m. On whatever a day it was two women literally lumped over in the front and back seat of your car Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, nothing suspicious. I would say both of those women are dead But you are you do make a good point you do and you got the sticker you have the sticker

I gotta let you go through Yeah, he said kimper said it was getting easier to do and I was getting better at it He took the body's home, but as his mother was home He had to wait until he can take him inside, but what he couldn't wait on Was dismembering the bodies. He took his hunting knife the general and hacked off both of their heads While they were still in the trunk of his car in full view of neighbors if someone would have walked by They would have seen this fucking monster Hacking the heads off of two young poets legitimately car parked outside of his mother's house on the street

It's not even covered. It's nothing. He was getting he really began this as this shows his ego Yeah, he really is at this point thinks that he can get away with anything. Yeah, uh, so he placed both of the bodies back in the trunk He cut off Alice's hands then dumped the bodies and heads in two separate places where they were found nine days later These two girls would be ed's last co-ed victims. Yeah I mean the one thing that you have to remember like when smoking weed in public just do it pretend like you're like Johnny Depp to use him as a reference again in the movie blow the most important thing to do when carrying Whatever pounds of cocaine through an airport is to pretend like you're not doing it If you're cutting off a person's head, just pretend like you're changing a tire

Oh, like Johnny Depp and willy wonka and the chocolate factory. We just kind of forget that you're in a movie He stops acting. Oh, I love the real chocolate factory. Yeah, your natural pedophilic impulses just kind of come out Come out. She's just gonna be you on screen. I love that. So yes, these were his last two victims So now we're looking at last two co-ed co-ed victims We're looking at a man who was like built all the way up to this sort of fever pitch in his own head And he was saying he was really trying very hard to quell it for a while. Did he really try though? More than not I feel like yeah, I think he's not doing it all together. You're right, right Yeah, he did make a conscious effort to not do it and the fact that he turned himself in does tell you that

He was actually trying to do it. Uh, but pretty soon after he killed these two girls, uh, a police officer He was checking through gun licenses and the way they found this too is very interesting Yeah, so his his record was expunged for killing his grandparents And so they were going through and they were going through driver's license because they basically There's like a random sweep where they go through a bunch of gun like gun license Things like forms and shit and make sure everything's up to date and everything's up to par and they were going through and they're like Oh eddy kemper. Oh, yeah, that big fucking the bubble butters. It was hanging out and being annoying I remember him and says here's like what is this thing and he noticed that back in the day instead of issuing a new card

They literally would just cross out your record on on the car They'd black it out kind of like, uh, you know redacted on But it was like with the marker. Yeah, and so he's like, what does it say underneath this thing? And he looks at it and basically he sees through the marker That he was put into an insane asylum for killing his grandparents and he's just like you guys know that eddy kemper murdered somebody And they're like no no, and he's like yeah, he killed his fucking grandparents And they're like what gun is he having? He's like he's got a massive 45. Yeah, and so they're like, right? We got to go get him

We got to go get this gun and they all knew him and so they're like well this guy's six foot nine and 300 pounds Who wants to go get the gun from him? Right? And you know if he throws you over the top rope, you're out You can't come back into the investigation. Yeah, so yeah, so they sit the rookie They sent a guy they literally drew straws and the rookie lost And the rookie is literally this tiny little tiny guy when I saw an interview with him and he's literally he's just like So I just uh, I know that uh, yeah, so it was up to me. Go go roll up eddy So I roll on over the car and they were saying they have a hard time finding the address

um And they went over to the basically he went around looking it was like one of those things where it was like 609a 609b there was a bunch of different houses all in a cul-de-sac And he couldn't see anybody and he was looking around and finally he said I saw a pair of feet hanging out of the car And he walks up to me. He's like excuse excuse me, sir I said you're like, can you point me towards those 609a and he was like and then I watched ed Kemper Get out and get out and get out of the car because he was literally was like It's just all of his body coming four out of this car and him standing all the way up and he was like can I

get your gun back This guy approaches Kemper like uh, Wayne or like garth did in Wayne's world when he confronted the bully with Excuse me. Excuse me. I have to get by now But he said then he went into so then eddy of then in his mind starts going paranoid He's like what gun do they want? Yeah, because he's like I got a 45 in my house But I also have a shit ton other fucking illegal guns in my house I've also got that 22 that I've been killing all these girls with inside of my car

Yeah, and so finally when he said the 45 he's like oh That's gonna be just such a strange thought process of uh, you know hoping they don't know the right gun Yeah, it really is So there was also a young blonde girl there with ed and if the cop hadn't come he would have killed that girl So he just let the girl go In two months after he killed those two girls I'd say he was started to play what I could only describe as russian roulette with other people's lives He just started picking up girls just to test himself

Just to see if he could pick girls up and not kill them Uh, but here's like some ridiculous irony. There was two girls that he picked up That he looked exactly the same as mary and the first two is the first two Uh, he they wanted him to take them the wrong way to their destiny to their destination Which would have taken them straight to the site of the first two Murders, but ed knew the right way. He's like no no no no you don't go this way We have to go this way and that's the amazing irony is that he scared those two girls more Then he scared any of his victims absolutely because they were freaking out because he was just like no no

Let me take you the right way. Let me take you the right way and he did it Then he dropped him off, but it was this point So that mounting pressure from its unsighted zone brain to kill Yeah, meanwhile with the cops buzzing him for that gun. Yeah, I started firing up his his paranoia He thought that the cops were playing a cat and mouse game with them. Yeah, they were just they were just stupid Yeah, they it was just complete coincidence uh, so He spent after that he spends an entire week thinking about okay

It's time. I am gonna go to the delta of my crimes And it's time to kill mommy And he would go through it that sunday Easter weekend So I think it was a part of my thought that maybe well, maybe have a killer. She'll come right back Yeah, you never know what who's gonna rise on Easter So he walks into a room on saturday night while she's reading

She slams her book shut and she said oh my god now. I suppose you want to stay up all night and talk I mean she was a cold woman. She was a very cold woman Because that was the thing is that he was such a fucking Huge dorky fucking mama's boy that he would go and sit on the corner of her bed every night And like tell him about her his problems and his feelings and she hated him for it He was a gigantic nuisance Yeah, right and he said that he said he just goes nope And left the room and returned four hours later with a claw and was also very interesting in the in the

In one of his first interviews He really he breaks in a tears talking about this because he says he was psyching himself up all night And you see because every other every other Victim he talks about with sort of a smugness sort of like a thing above him. I pulled one over on them Yeah, yeah, yeah, or they deserved it blah blah blah or think and then that thing we said It's not that I did a horrible thing But they would it's a horrible thing happened to them Yeah, right and so he

Was of course very conflicted about killing his mother, but he knew he had to do it That's when you stare into the window and you look at your own reflection and you're like a net banning an american beauty And you're like, I will sell this house I will murder my mother today. I will do it He bashes her head in as she slept He rolls her over slits her throat and he said that he was shocked at how easy it was to kill her That she died just as easily as all the rest of an elderly sleeping woman That wasn't the most difficult kill you've ever had

I imagine he thought she was like fucking king kupa when you come back like black and white and start like, you know, like Change like the flashing red. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder what he thought was gonna happen when he did like stab it like Light was gonna come from her or something. She was gonna turn into a stronger demon force like in Like like at the end of ocarina of time when you think you've eaten ganondorf And then the tower blows up and you got to deal with A super big ganondorf ganondorf more like mom and daughter pretty much. Yeah dead alive. I was thinking as well Oh, yeah, that's right So he then decided that quote what's good enough for my victims was good enough for my mother

Oh, very nice. Yeah, it wasn't very nice. No, no, no, he cuts off her head has sex with her with her corpse He then he does goes a little bit further He removes her vocal cords and throws him in the garbage disposal, but they won't they won't Don't grind up because they're too thick. Yeah, they keep popping back out of the garbage disposal into his face Yeah, and it seems like it seemed appropriate as much as she bitched and screamed and yelled at me so much over the years Even when she was dead. She was still bitching at me. I couldn't get her to shut up Yeah, I wonder if when if you went I wonder when he was having sex with his mother's head, you know If he was like, I think this is a career defining moment

You know, I think this is how people are gonna define my entire life. This is my saving private ryan This is great So he spends the next few hours Yelling and screaming at his mother's head. He places the head up on the mantle yells and screams at the head and then just starts throwing darts at her face He was upset. He was upset. I know I blow off steam. I've yelled at the coffee maker Yeah, I mean, you know like in these last couple months. I've yelled at some stuff in my house It doesn't need to be yelled at, you know, I held my tv like it was a woman once

No, we don't talk about that. We don't talk about that. This is being recorded Henry So he felt sick. He goes out for a drive. He sees an acquaintance who owes him 10 dollars And they went out for a drive in his friend's car and he's still got the urge to kill like he is fucking keyed up He said his buddy gave him the 10 bucks that it saved his friend's fucking life. Oh, that's nice God damn. So if you owe a buddy a debt just pay it us and pay up right now go seriously shut off this pond Can't go to your buddy's house and pay him it right now. Yeah, right. Yeah, it's like uh, like I just thought of Steve Buscemi's character I don't know why I'm thinking of all the movies today. I don't know. You're you're movie boy. I'm movie boy

In billy madison call up your friend or make sure that you're good with everybody in the world because you never know One of your friends is a serial killer and you want to be safe on his list So he's still keyed up and he also realizes that there is one person in this world that's going to miss his mother Her best friend sally howlett so he calls her up He invites her over for a surprise dinner with his mother and when she arrives The first thing she said was let's sit down. I'm dead Hits her in the but with a brick Strangles her first with his hands and then

Uses the same scarf that he had used to use to kill a koku and he did it with such force that he broke her neck He later recalled I had broken her neck and her head was just wobbling around with the bones of her neck Just disconnected it in the skin sack of her neck. So skin skin sacks of the neck Oh man, so he placed sally's body in his bed and spent his night in his mother's room The next morning beer pong with her butthole or anything like that. He's already got the dark game going with his mother's head Please please beer pong. He was playing it like a wine glass. Oh, I see Yeah, that is fun

So the next morning he leaves in howlett's car, but not without leaving a note for the police on his mother's Bloody mattress it read Approximately 5 15 p.m. Saturday no need for her to suffer anymore at the hands of this horrible murderous butcher It was quick the sleep the way I wanted it not sloppy and incomplete gents just a lack of time I got things to do. It's very busy. Yeah, I got things to do and that was two exclamation points after that Yeah, it kind of sounds like a text message from you Ben g2t. Yeah Got to yeah, so kimper drives for three days straight He eventually reaches colorado and he's he's been popping benes this entire time popping trucker speed

He hallucinates most of the drive and he said that he had the same feeling that he had after he killed his grandparents this weird Surreal out-of-body type of experience. Yeah, he said wow I've got to stop this before because it is getting out of hand I am not going to be responsible for what happens any further and I don't like that idea No, definitely not. So this is what I want to say to me with this shows again is guys out there when you're driving We're seatbelt because you don't know seatbelt 60% of the guys on the road have just killed eight women Their mother's best friend. They're driving around on benes. So be careful and buckle up And he was expecting a manhunt because that he expected because the police thought that this was a part of a big fucking

intricate game with the police Yeah, he thought the police had been watching him and as soon as he took off the police were gonna raid the house find all the bodies, but Nobody gave a fuck that Clarnell and Sally were dead. Let's just face it. They sucked I mean, nobody seems to care about a lot of people here But on the other hand most people who knew Clarnell like she was very popular No, she was very good at what she she was good at her job She had a distinct problem with men and with eddie in general. Yeah, I think it's because he was a co-ed butcher

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'll do it because he was a bit of a bastard Uh, so three days went by here. No word on the radio of anyone finding the bodies He stopped in Pueblo, Colorado Called up the Santa Cruz PD to confess to the killings. It took him several calls to convince him that he was serious They told him to call back Call back. I just killed eight women. Okay. Yeah, I know. I know but the thing is we're waiting The buzzer is broken outside of the station. We've ordered a couple of pizzas. We're having a bit of a pizza party It's marty's birthday. So if you get his way, we need to keep these lines open

Yeah, and he was so well liked and so well known by the police department They thought that he was drunk Like it took him Several calls because he knew these detectives by name. He knew who was on the case. He's like, yeah, I need to talk Uh to detective Sturgill and they called up detective Sturgill is like, hey, listen, I gotta tell you I I just killed my mother and her friend and I'm also the co-ed killer and they were like They're so used to him being a bumblebud around the bar because he said that that was a carefully crafted persona that he had with them

Yeah, it really was he was just kind of a goof. He was a police groupie As they called him and then he was just a harmless eccentric that was just you know I'm paying the ass a guy buy you a beer and you draw your your ear off and he'd fucking put bad songs on the jukebox Yeah, he's the guy that when you're out drinking when he shows up and you're sober. You're like Ah, fuck camper. Okay. I guess and then after you have like five beers. Yeah, he's your best friend He's your best friend. Yeah, right, right, right? So he uh said that he had gone all the way to play blow because it was weird that one time We all got together that one night and he raped that head of lettuce. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was funny though

I know it was kind of funny weird. It was a good time. We had a lot of Yeager that night You remember Henry dismissed it. Yeah, you remember you ate it afterwards. I had to yeah, we called it an Eddie salad Yeah, that was great. Yeah, he said that he went all the way to playable because he said he was afraid if he went straight to the local police department They would shoot first and act question ask questions later and he was quote terrified of violence Yeah, fucking pussy Yeah So and I really do think that if Ed hadn't turned himself in and hadn't killed his mother very likely he could have reached Bundy nobody once he killed his mom it was all done

Well, it was he was as we said in the first episode he was a displacement killer He couldn't kill his mother so we killed the next best thing the women that his mother wouldn't let him meet But after he's called they basically he said multiple times if I was on the street, I'd kill again. Yeah He said it he's he come up and went out and said it which is everyone else's that's where I would say he's on the only Honest thing he said. Yeah, well, the other killers would be like, uh, you know Dahmer found christ and everyone knows where it's just like he he knows it's he knows exactly what he is It's interesting. It's almost like a horror movie in the way that they they found what you know He found what was uh cursing him this whole time his mother. It's like when you find the bones

You have to put him in the sunlight at 5 a.m. To break the curse But there's a force equal contract that forces you to make more after you make the awesome ending of the first one Right, right, so kimper pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity But three different court psychiatrists declare him to be sane. This is very interesting Kimper His diagnosis has been used since then as the standard for what legal insanity is By reason of disease or defect the defendant did not know what he was doing was wrong Yeah, so that is that's still used to this day as far as the insanity defense goes

Uh, and when they asked him what he thought was a fitting fitting uh fitting punishment He said, you know what? I've been thinking about this moment from childhood He told the judge that he ought to be tortured to death Uh, but the death penalty at the time was suspended nationwide and he was sentenced to uh life in prison Uh, spent a short stint in the california medical facility in vockeville california And here he met up with his nemesis his only competition Herbert muller god herbert This would have been a fun time for him and the judge to play gas chamber. Yeah his favorite childhood game. That's true

That's true. Yeah, so he killed 13. He believed that he was trying to prevent an earthquake Yeah, and kempers said he was just a cold-blooded killer killing everything. He's everybody he saw for no good reason All right, you're a no-class killer. I'd say. Yeah, that's what he yelled at her And they would and he would tease her he would call him herbie because herbert hated it because herbert had a high habit of singing in a high-pitched squeaky voice while people were watching tv Yeah, he was just like Watching the tv what i'm gonna do what i'm gonna do about it. It's a real odd couple. I love it Oh, yeah

So finally like kimber got sick of it and he got into the habit of throwing water on uh like a cat like you would a cat He would throw water on him and then when he was he said when he was a good boy. I'd give him peanuts He said yeah, he said that was effective effective because pretty soon herbie would actually ask permission to sing He trained this man like a cat what an annoying room of losers It's like it's like that's the thing is you can see this context of just like a group of just f**k tards that are just the worst dudes to hang out with Yeah, there's one guy just saying it's like You got a bumblebutt just going like shut up

Meanwhile, you're just a rapist trying to calmly watch some baseball Right, right and you're just sitting there just guys guys guys Yeah It's like grumpy or old men or grumpy old men, but uh, you know just imprisoned some classy art thief Who's forced to be dealing with it. It's just being like where's in my tea I remember when I stole the Mona Lisa from the Louvre and now i'm here. Ah Oh fate cruel torturous fate Yeah, they're just so dumb

They're all so stupid. Yeah, he said that it quote stuck in his craw that uh, Kemper got eight out of eight counts of first-degree murder While mullen only got two out of six two out of 13 counts of first-degree murder But he followed up by saying I guess that's kind of hilarious. Am I sitting here so self-righteously talking like that After what I've done, right? Yeah, that is That's all part of ed kempers think he believes himself to be special Yes, like he is. Yeah, he believes himself to be special. His crimes are very personal. Yes, uh, and they were and they felt that He had a reason yes, and he believed that they had a he was a man of reasons and he believed that they uh

Had special connections him and the corpses had a special connection I mean it was all in loser talk Because it was all like staring at the girl who comes into the 7-eleven while you work at the cashier all day just being like Ah, I just I know we could be that was just gave me a chance and I could show off the delicious spicy Dorito curls. All right. Just the bubble-ish is for you again today. Okay. I love you, Becky I got there's more customers behind you. Did I say it out loud? Or was I just thinking it? She won't give me a chance Yeah, so while he was at vaquville. He also participated in reading audio books for the blind. He's got a very nice voice

He does he spent more than 5,000 hours in the booth in front of a microphone over 10 years He has more than 4 million feet of tape and several 100 books to his credit So he's really one of the most successful voiceover people in california at the time actually he probably is yeah Regular James Earl Jones him and meld blank Yeah Included in his work is a children's book called the trumpet of the swan

The fourth book of the dune series. Yeah, and a novelization of the star wars trilogy. It's unbelievable They gave him this is such a great job. This is the perfect very jealous that he has this job This is what you want technically if you could read out loud. Yeah, that would be helpful So there is we found the only thing we could find we couldn't find any full recordings of his audio books the only thing that we found listed we did find an example On the volunteers of vaquville.org where they list a lot of the books that edmund kimper read He read flowers in the attic Now i've never read flowers in the attic

But apparently it is a horror novel a very famous horror novel. I've never read it myself But he read so many let's listen to The melodious tunes the melodious tunes of eddy kimper of eddy kimper chapter one Goodbye daddy Truly when I was very young way back in the 50s I believed all of life would be like one long and perfect summer day After all it did start out that way

There's not much I can say about our earliest childhood except that it was very good And for that I should be everlastingly grateful We weren't rich. We weren't poor if we lacked some necessity. I couldn't name it if we had luxuries I couldn't name those either without comparing what we had to what others had And nobody had more or less in our middle-class neighborhood In other words short and simple. We were just ordinary run-of-the-mill children Cool chapter one paragraph one fly by daddy. I love it. I love it. I put a great little He also wrote a series of short stories. Yeah that I could I can't find if anybody can find it

Please send it to me. I've been digging and digging and digging. I can't find any of it But he definitely wrote a bunch of short stories. Yeah, and I think most of them were called like mommy's blowing me again You know just like stuff like that. Yep, and if you can't find him just just write your own and just sign ed. Kemper We're not gonna know the difference who knows. Yeah, so right now he is uh, he's still alive Uh, and he's in fulsome state prison. Here's a very interesting thing Fulsome also has an insurance agency called Kemper preferred Interesting. It's a real interesting thing. Uh, so ed of course ever the talker He has one of the most famous quotes in serial killer history when he asked

What do you think now when you see a pretty girl? He said One side of me says, wow What an attractive chick. I'd like to talk to her date her the other side of me says I wonder how her head would look on a stick Classic though Yeah, that that's that's an absolute classic one. I mean that that's up there with uh, you know, I ate her buttocks I did not fuck her though. She died a virgin It's up there with that. It's up there. Yeah up there with like serial killers are your fathers your brothers your, uh, your husbands

We are everywhere or everywhere you get every you like every time you get everything right in the 10th time You forget where the lug wrenches. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's up there. It's up there. It's guys This is I just think it's interesting. I just think you know, it's like, uh Fucking learn how to talk to people You know don't be a big fucking bumblebutt, but if you're ever described as a bumblebutt seek to change it Yeah, I mean unless it's really funny and people love you because of your bumblebutt Yeah, yeah, there's plenty of lovable bumblebutts out there. We got three right here We call us a couple of bumblebutts. Yeah, a trio of bumblebutts. Uh-huh. That's that's what we are

A confederacy of bumblebutts. How's that? Um, Kemper's still alive. He's gotta be in his early 70s now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. His last interview was in 1991 He did it with this weird french guy. Really cool interview. Yeah. Yeah, he is. I mean, I think now he's probably pushing 350 Oh, he's a bit. He's a bigot. You don't eat very healthy in jail. Yeah. Yeah, all that power. Yeah, he's gigantic Yeah, that's that's ed Kemper part two. Yeah, we really wrapped that one up man. Jesus Christ. What a tale Yeah, so again, yeah, don't hitchhike if you are if someone says put on the handcuffs Don't do it unless it's a really saucy bdm bdsm situation. Let them kill you Yeah, let them kill you quick make them kill you quick or fight back and don't die. Yeah, figure out a way

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