Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 208: David Bowie and the Occult
Episode Date: January 18, 2016It's a tribute to the greatest magician of the 20th century on this week's Last Podcast as we cover Bowie's occult obsessions during the 1970s and how those pepper-milk cocaine fueled days tie in with... Bowie's very last album, Blackstar.
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That's when the cannibalism started
Legally, I'm not a blade as are many things that I do I've been told again and again that I'm legally not obliged
All right. Well, welcome to the last podcast on the left everyone. I am Ben kissle. I'm looking at the beautiful Marcus parks
But to my left it's an empty space. Where did it go? He's in Atlanta
Well, yeah, I'm down here in Atlanta, and you'll know you we made our best barbecue. You ever hear that you'll lie
What accent is that?
That's brilliant, how's Atlanta going Henry it is seasonable
People I had oh my god
So the other day to one of my favorite restaurants in Atlanta's this place called Holman Inventions
My favorite place because they do that snout to tail kind of cooking where it's like the chef will come to your table
And he's like we're hoping to have four second pigs here today
And we have two of their kidneys left and we'd like to split them and devil them and then you just sit at the table going like
God you just you eat like Ray Liotta from Hannibal
I'm looking to die at the table. They had this thing called
Oh, it's a pate melt and it was a burger made out of just nothing but solidified pate and
Meat mixed in with it and like a little like burger and all go to bid into it
It was just like my dick God who art we've talked about torture chambers and 9-eleven
And that's definitely the most horrifying imagery I've had yet. I've experienced yet on this show
But I'm so sad about David Bowie passing. That's right. That's good God
All right, so that's what we're gonna talk about today David Bowie Marcus is taking his unbelievable knowledge of music and the Macabre and
Magic and it's all combined into a great David Bowie episode exactly. This is our
David Bowie tribute of course it should come as no surprise to any of you that I'm a gigantic David Bowie fan
Henry's also a big David Bowie fan Ben. You're I like him
Oh, I think that's what that's the tell of a true David Bowie fan
That's it if you say be like what do you think of David Bowie and he goes I like him. I like him and I but you know
I'm jealous. He was so skinny you get the feeling he could have all the food he wanted and he wouldn't gain a pound
Yes, but you know what Ben you'll actually relate to remember how you lost all that weight working out and healthy diet cocaine and
Gin and soda. Yes, that's right
But yes, David Bowie meant a lot to me as well it meant a lot to my group in college
It was just was just one of those things where we would have sing-alongs to hunky-dory all that shit
He you know, they gives you gives you an allowance to be weird. I heard him in a young age
It was great. It's like it was what it was a theater kid thing
So everybody was like I can be queer all I want to be but it's still at the same time
I kind of just want to kiss Becky and everyone's like you're lame. You're so square
Because I don't want to suck a dick and I understand that but David Bowie also besides being a rock legend was an occult
Just it's symbol. He's a figure himself and he lived the life completely. Yeah, he absolutely did and before we begin
I'd like to first and foremost acknowledge and
Highly recommend season of the witch by Peter Bebergall
It's one of the most well-written accessible and entertaining books on the occult that I have ever read and I'd recommend it to both magic and
Music fans. It's all about how the occult
Saved rock and roll that without the occult rock and roll would have been nothing but a flaccid flash in the pan
So without the occult we wouldn't have such great bands as wasp
We wouldn't have wasp. We wouldn't have poison not a single bit of rat
Other sources for this episode are the article The Fault Earth by Peter Doggett and a
Ridiculously comprehensive piece written back in 1996 by an OTO member named Peter Arcanig
He had a lot of additional material on the occult matters
Specifically. What's OTO again? The Ordro Templo Orientis. Henry. Is that correct?
I guess so. I'm not a Latin person. I don't mean Latin as in Spanish
I mean Latin as a nerd in high school that's learning Latin because he wants to be difficult
So our words and all tribute to David Bowie and by the way, this is a warts and all
Tribute this is not going to be something where we only talk about the good aspects of David Bowie
This really is like he was a very complicated
And at times horribly annoying human being to the people around him. So you mean a traditional magician
Sounds about right. Yes. That's that is how it always goes
I also think the combination of occult and rock music and any sort of musicianship is is a natural marriage because the you are
projecting a personality out onto a group of people
It's sort of the Grant Morrison idea of chaos magic and I think it's an interesting idea
Like if in terms of when we do our chaos magic episode, this is an example of somebody who truly live the lifestyle
That it takes to be an actual chaos magician and have results
Which again would you're saying means that you're complicated and annoying
But Grant Morrison sort of believes that artists and writers are the last of the true magicians because you're creating something out of nothing
and David Bowie
Created personas that he then completely inhabited and created that we all we all believed in Ziggy Stardust
We believe that the distances this entity he come he wouldn't allow it to not not be true
So that is the literally the the nut of
Magical belief. Well, you know, that's why that's why I like Lemmy, you know
He was just dumb enough to always be himself
He wasn't trying to fool me all the time. Has anybody tried to order a lemmy at a bar
No, it doesn't work yet
You know Jack Daniels is really trying to get the jack-and-coke to be renamed the lemmy
Oh trying to do it and I asked for one and I was looked at like I was an asshole because I was in that moment
Yeah, I agree with whoever called you that
Yeah, but David Bowie I can I can say that he was among if not the most successful magician of
The 20th century if not our entire lifetime. This is what Peter Bebergall said in an interview about him
He said Bowie's music and performance were a magical practice
Maybe even more potent than if he sat by himself in his room and tried to conjure a demon
And this is the point that he's making here compare
Bowie to say like Crowley like Crowley
Arguably his only point in everything and all of his magical practices was sex and power
Which in of course power was tied completely into sex
But Bowie used magic as a force of creation not just in music
But also as Henry said in the magical avatars that he created specifically from
1972 to 1976 but Alistair Crowley also believed that are you gonna do that now?
Are you gonna do the Crowley thing Crowley is how you pronounce it a Leicester Crowley. Yeah
Who yelled at you which which at what asshole yelled at you that you listen to listening to too many podcasts about it
They always say Crowley. It's like when I was listening to hardcore history
He kept saying Genghis Khan, and I'm just like, you know, I know. Yeah, I know what's proper. Yeah
I'm going with the Aussie pronunciation Crowley or Crowley. Oh, that's tough to say. It's actually it is true
It is pronounced Crowley. You're supposed to say Crowley, but come on mr. Crowley. It doesn't just feel right
Yeah, Crowley sounds like a short stout man who opens the door. He is thank you, mr. Crowley
I opened the door he meant it in magical terms
He meant forces cock inside of a young boy who thought he was just there for an internship. Ah, I see
But what he the power aspect of it was kind of like mana and magic cards
If we want to get totally virginal about it that he was you build up the power using sex
And then you're supposed to do something with it Crowley never actually used the power for anything
He just liked the sex and eaten calm and eat menstrual blood all the time. Right, right hungry guy. Yes, Bowie is
is an active magician and
With the way he harnessed audiences was kind of like how like a Batman villain did it over the Batman villain
Or was it Morgan for your child Morgan Freeman in the
Um hit the Batman begins when he harnesses all the cell phones to find the Joker is it or is it dark night?
No, that's dark night. That's the second one 16 hour days in a row. My brain is trash
For Batman lore. I'm sorry
yelling at the fucking radio right now
He used people in the audience too because they then believed in him and Ziggy starred us and stuff like that is just an example
It made it even more true. It's again the idea of
of
Perception meets reality the perception meets ritual equals reality. Yeah, David Bowie is possibly the best example of
Perception meets ritual equals reality, but I mean so if the crowd would have rejected the idea
He would have just gone backstage and it wouldn't have never had it would have never done it again, right?
Oh, no, no, could you just be some asshole on a costume show right like?
Spiders and
He's sucked right still had to be a very good musician. Yeah, that's that's what we must
Stress again and again is that he's also one of the best musicians of the 20th century
Right, and one of the more talented dancers apparently I read one story where all the sound went out in a concert
And he just did mime for 90 minutes and the crowd went crazy
Apparently the greatest mime can you imagine how much cocaine you must be on to do a pantomime performance for
20,000 people. I just can't imagine. I just can't stop thinking of Charles Manson as well coming on stage with him and just helping him do it
I can I know you're acting like you're in a box, but I can see the box
David Bowie rising from his mirror. I'll just mime my way out of this
It really is it's it's almost it's a superpower in a way
It really is the way that he was able to control a crowd because he also
Believed in it completely like even up till you know very recently up till the the 30th anniversary of Ziggy Stardust that he was supposed to do
Something for in 2002
He still to that day talked about Ziggy Stardust as a completely different person
Like it wasn't just like oh when I was doing that Ziggy Stardust character
He was like no Ziggy Stardust would be very surprised to find out that I turned out to be a rational human being that actually survived this long
cocaine
Again, it's just amazing what it does
Well, yeah, again, this is the warning
You can't just put silver nail polish on and have like a pants with like a tail built and no one and run around and think you're gonna
Change the universe. You have to also learn to play guitar right right right right and mime
Yeah, and Bowie you what you also have to do is you also have to be
A nerd because Bowie was also a huge nerd
He was an interpreter of sorts
See he was a voracious consumer of books art theater and movies
And he was able to use all of these things that he consumed to create both the music that we know and love and
The various characters that he inhabited throughout the 70s and really with Bowie
It just so happened that in the early to mid 70s a lot of what he consumed was
The occult and now it is widely accepted by most people that Bowie's first album is
Not very good
And of course had this been his only album almost none of us would know his name and even space already which is still
Pretty good if that would have all if that would have been all he released
He would be pretty much be known as a one-hit wonder. This is the most record store Marcus
You're gonna get Marcus worked at a record store. I did wear it
In fact, I am right now wearing my Ralph's records t-shirt, which is the record store that I worked at in college
Have you checked out Space Flattery?
Yeah, this is total mark record store me
But after Space Odyssey, it's on his third album 1970s the man who sold the world the Bowie
Truly starts to become one of the greatest artists to ever live and it's also
Maybe not so coincidentally where the occult references start to show up now his first interest in the occult starts off
Pretty soft. It's pretty much just on the very last track of the album
Some people argue that the first track of the album has some occult references, but it's a bit of a stretch
But the superman he sings when all the world was very young and mountain magic heavy-hung the superman would walk and file
Guardians of a Loveless Eye, and again, I'm just here to buy the new Adele
There's a great song called hello. Yeah, I know hello's great
But if you listen, it's a pretty good breakup album
But I don't know if you've checked out this albums by Robert Palmer and says hey, it's hey girl
Don't you leave? Oh, why are you leaving? Hey leave? Hey, would you come back please bring me some eggs?
That's actually that's the kind of thing about them. I think you should be listening to it
Oh, it's just like anybody's into so why don't you should you also be into it?
I mean they just buy it to the corporate fucking master. I worked at a record store
I took everybody to exactly what they asked for without trying to steer them from somewhere else because I cared that Ralph's
Records was a thriving local business. That's very nice of you. So those
So those lyrics that we were just that I just read they hint that it's around
1970 that Bowie probably read a book called the morning of the Magicians now the morning of the Magicians is a must-read book
for anybody who wants to be a student of
Magic it is outdated. It is
Very silly
but the core ideas of it are very interesting and it's more about seeing the train of thought and
And the morning of the Magicians are really good like seed of like the really the beginnings of modern chaos magic and how you can
Create your own reality by changing her perception
Is it outdated in the sense that it uses us a lot of racial slurs or is it outdated in the sense that it talks about Nixon?
No, no, it's out to it's outdated in the fact that it's like, you know
The end of all of these books are always being like and if we just make a drum circle big enough
We can end all the wars. Yeah, I mean like that's yeah, so it's like, you know that it's just you can't yeah
We're not we're not doing it. Yeah, and it also it talks about the ancient aliens thing
And it also it actually predates Eric von Daniken's cherry to the gods by about seven years or so
Ancient aliens still has yet to be disproved
until I still believe the burden I think a proof is on the scientists on the aliens
That's where the burden of proof is is on the aliens. I say until we hear their side of the story
I'm not gonna say what's truth and what is non-truths absolutely not
So morning the magicians the actual book also contain quite a bit of information about
of course Nazis and the occult the virile society and
The Thule society and this would be a point in time that Bowie's fascination with Nazis could be called
Almost innocent. It's like Nazi occult life. It would definitely become much more pronounced and much darker
Later on just a few years later
But at any rate Bowie would double down on his newfound interest in the occult with 1971's
universally loved
Hunky Dory like Hunky Dory is
It's the college album like that's that's the Bowie album that you listen to and you know
Like when you're about 19 or 20 blows your mind, but it's also one of those albums that stays with you through the rest of your life
Like sounds like the album you listen to when you go to a
Sadie Hawkins dance. It's a very it's a very western midwestern
Kind of country name, isn't it?
You've never been around a group of people. No, I have not I've not allowed around them
I pummeled a child when I was seven and they haven't let me be around groups of larger than two
So the occult references and by the way, hunky Dory starts off with the song changes
So it could pop. I mean, I don't necessarily think that he was talking
I fucking love it. I fucking love this album
I feel like when we mention these things you should stop the podcast and listen to one of these songs
So you could get back into the fucking mindset
Actually, if you want I made a playlist on Spotify that's called Bowie's occult songs
Yeah, yeah
Parkette, hell yeah, ancillary fucking content
But I actually I made that for my own
Purposes at first because you know, I had to listen to these songs over and over and over again
I spent about 12 hours listening to nothing but Bowie albums yesterday
Well, you and your girlfriend were making death masks of each other
No, well, we did listen to low while I had my death mask made until we got to
Uh side b when it really starts to get ethereal and weird and death like that's when I freaked out
And had to get her to put on a talking heads record. What's the death mask a death?
It's a whole long story. We'll get it. Okay. We'll do a whole episode on it. It's a whole thing
You know, a lot of couples go strawberry picking
And then you did it you made a death mask with your girlfriend. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, yeah
It was her christmas gift to me. Oh, isn't that nice? Yeah. Yeah. She really wants you around planning your death. Yeah, exactly
Nothing nefarious there
So the occult references in hunky dory start with the second song. Oh, you pretty things
But they're still pretty goofy and innocent
If you'll remember from our hollow earth episode
We talked about a quote-unquote novel called the coming race
Now in case you don't remember the cunning the coming race follows a narrator who encounters the real yaw
A race of humans who fled the great flood of noah lost their way ended up taking refuge in caverns and decided to set up shop
In the hollow earth the real yaw were masters of the drill
Which was said to be the source of power that pervaded the entire universe and enabled them to influence the minds and bodies of others gave them the ability to
Manipulate weather and also fly a lot of people say that george lucas
Ripped off the concept of the force from the coming race
Absolutely a lot of people ripped off a lot of things from the drill also the coming race
I also remembered everybody that the coming race was essentially like the silmarillion of the nazi party
Where it was the the organic quote-unquote
Lore magical lore of the nazi party. So just also remember that
Yeah, I can't stop thinking of a group of people that just are constantly ejaculating
When you say the coming race just people walking down the street
He's one of the coming race
I'm sorry. We're not hiring coming race people right now. It turns out not good for the coffee shop
General zandor. I've been trying to fight in the war, but I just
I want to get in the tank and I want to roll over that village, but every single time
We want to give you your rights. We want to have you on the front line, but you just can't stop coming
So about the drill this coming race. This is what the narrator had to say about them
I praise that ages may yet elapse before they emerge into sunlight our inevitable destroyers
I have sorted my duty to my fellow men to place on record these four warnings of
The coming race and translated to bowie lyrics that would be
From oh, you pretty things. They're the start of a coming race. The earth is a bitch
We finished our news almost sapience about grown their use all the strangers came today
And it looks as though they're here to stay and of course don't forget about got away make way for the homo superior
So in other words bowie
Was a hollow earth nerd
I'm here for the miming
Can you imagine if somebody watched the mime show and didn't realize that was uh, you know not supposed to happen
And went to see him live because like this is totally different
Hey, hey, this rock music is very loud. I prefer the silence of mime
Please sir
Think of the minds
Think of the minds
So I don't know if to you guys if that makes the song better or worse in your eyes
But you know, that's a song that I've been listening to for 15 years of my life
And I just found out about the hollow earth thing maybe a year ago and to me that made the song so much better
It really opened up david bow. It made me see david bowie in a completely different light
When I had known him as before because before david bowie was ziggi sardis david bowie
He was a music theater guy his first album started sort of a soundtrack to a theater show a live show that he did
And so I always knew he was a nerd and I also believe that yes, he has his interpretation
His content came from like the hollow earth from the coming race book
But at the same time
Like what's the best part about art is what you're supposed to take it and you're supposed to put your meaning on it
It's supposed to be about your experience to it
It's like oh you pretty things was like a song that my group of friends would sing in unison on mushrooms
Like this song to me was always about like how the world would be a lot better if everybody took mushrooms, man
But also because I was fucking 19, right? I still believe that I agree with you
I always think of that song. I say all these pretty things beautiful voice
I have and I always have that going through my head when I look at puppies in the store
And I love it and I want to hold them
so the other song on hunky dory concerning the occult quicksand is
Is much more explicit as to what it's about if you know absolutely anything about the occult whatsoever quicksand
immediately comes off as
Full of a cult of occult references the song begins. I'm closer to the golden dawn immersed in Crowley's uniform of imagery
I'm living in a silent film portraying Himmler's sacred realm of dream reality
And if you listen to the entire song
I think what it's really about is something that me Henry and
All of you struggle with that is that magic is hard as fuck
It's also very isolating. Yeah, and the more you talk about it the more you sound like a fucking crazy person
Yeah, he continues in the song
I'm sinking in the quicksand of my thought and I ain't got the power anymore and the chorus goes
Don't believe in yourself. Don't deceive with belief knowledge comes with death death's release and to me just rock and roll
It's just super rock and roll. Yeah, and to me. It sounds like that. He's given up
He's just resigning himself to the thought that the answers he's looking for won't ever come until he's dead again
Magic is very very hard and can you also imagine being his producer and at one point just being like
Hey, David, love this song. Love this song. First of all, you creeped me out. I wish you dropped the robe in the wand
But again, it's your it's your life. This is your life number two
Maybe the Himmler thing we can take it down
From like a 12 to like a two maybe a zero. Maybe we could maybe do a zero on the Himmler
No, no, no
No
David you are an artist. I love your energy. No, I'm just saying the UK where we're at right now
Not even 15 years ago. No was like leveled
By the Nazis. Absolutely not. No
essential
That's still that's the music industry
There it is just spiking a rail
It was great that every single time you hit that really hit that wall with an artist just go like everybody shakes their head and just like they all just
Snort
And then not coincidentally this is about the time that the cocaine comes in
Full effect with David Bowie. Not that it never not was there
It was there in the beginning as well. Right. It was definitely taken to pilot seat
After that, well, this is the good stuff. This is the 70s, right? Yeah, best cocaine around. Yeah, this is David Bowie
Can you imagine being David Bowie's fucking weed deal like weed or coke dealer?
He actually did not like weed. He said the the first time he hated weed. He said the very first time he smoked weed
Uh, I think it was like with the basis of deep purple or something like that and the coolest way to smoke weed
Yeah, yeah, and he said that he just like uh, he said someone rang the doorbell and Bowie went downstairs
To see who it was and then got distracted by the cracks on the sidewalk and just followed those for a few miles
And then realized he wasn't hanging out with the basis for deep purple anymore. Not a weed guy
Not a weed guy
Nope following the cracks
His coke dealer just shown up dressed in a lightning bolt costume and roller skates
Just shows up being like I just you know, you know what's funny, man
Is that I didn't even think you wanted cocaine. I woke up this morning and I smelled you needing it. Yeah
Roller skate coke dealer
Well, what Bowie's talking about in quicksand, uh, is that of course like magic is very difficult
And he's having a very very hard time grasping it, uh, and so
He kind of starts taking shortcuts and as we're gonna see shortcuts in magic are a
Very bad idea
So after hunky dory came what many people including myself consider to be one of the best rock and roll albums ever recorded
The rise and fall of ziggy stardust and the spiders from mars and this album came with bowie's first character creation the titular
ziggy stardust
Ziggy was a bit of a departure from the occult into the space alien sci-fi realm
Uh, and during a meeting between bowie and william s burrows in 1973
Bowie who completely inhabited the ziggy stardust character
So that ziggy came from a race of alien super beings called the infinites
Who lived in black holes that used ziggy as a vessel to give themselves a form that people could comprehend
David, uh, I just can't I know you're talking about ziggy like he's a real guy
But I just can't help but think it's a thing. You're making up. I don't think I you know
I I don't mean to cast doubt, but I think maybe you're making them up
Actually, william burrows came right back at him. He counters like you know what actually I want to open up an institute
That will prepare people for the coming, uh
A race of alien super beings because we're not ready to interact with them yet, but I am totally on board
You know how that that conversation started? Oh, wait a second
No, you know what you're right at the same time
I think we need to make a cooking class for these aliens so they can learn how to make human food
So they can get jobs as short order cooks
Anytime they like
So
Maybe not so coincidentally
Ziggy start us also loved cocaine
So coincidence is one of those that's a coincident
It's just one of those things and it's just like is it a happy?
Is it a happy coincidence or is it like a meant-to-be type thing? Is it fate? Yeah basketball players like jumping
And ziggy likes cocaine
It's around this time that bowie's
Legendary cocaine intake really started to ramp up and with the cocaine came the paranoia
Here's what fellow magic user Alistair Crowley had to say about cocaine
Give cocaine to a man already wise and if he be really master of himself
It will do him no harm
Alas the power of the drug diminishes with fearful pace the doses wax the pleasures wane
Side issues invisible at first arrives
They are like devils with flaming pitchforks in their hands
That means eating nothing but peppers of milk for you. Absolutely
God he definitely sold it. That sounds great
Now it's my opinion that bowie was attempting to use the cocaine to shortcut his way
Into transcendence or at least to try to gain the knowledge that he had been trying to reach for the few years previous
And we'll get into later exactly where he got that idea
I think that it's it's like he is sort of looking for a shortcut
I also think it's about the confidence that cocaine gives you where it's like it's not even just looking for a shortcut
It's that the cocaine makes you believe you have found the shortcut. Yeah, I don't have holes in my jeans
My skin is just fighting through
Absolutely
Yeah, and then it's also like he already had millions of dollars at this point
There are many people that were just kind of doing shit for him. So it's almost like magic was working
But he really just had a team of assistants
Arriving with the plates of peppers and the pictures of milk that he was eating
And at some point he's just like I just think it and it comes around
Because he doesn't realize that after breakfast every morning after is he's had his fucking cup of fucking columbian coffee
He's like he just thinks about peppers and milk and he thinks it shows up
But really he's been yelling about it for 45 minutes. Right. That's very true. So we took a shortcut with cocaine
It's similar to uh an athlete using the juice using steroid something like that. Yeah, I think it's somewhat like that
Yeah, I mean he definitely he took a different path because most people especially in the 70s
Their shortcut was lsd
Uh or mushrooms or weed or anything like that and bowie went on record. He's like
I don't he said he never liked hallucinogens. He didn't like lsa. He didn't like weed
His thing was uppers because bowie was also a workaholic
He was also very hyperactive. He had to constantly be doing something
He released an album every single year and some years released two albums from
1969 until
1980 like that is and they are almost all fantastic. There are a couple of exceptions and a couple of albums
I don't necessarily like all that much, but for the most part it's a body of work that is unparalleled by any other artist
I mean, how does he even have time to go to the bathroom? Was he just recording that too?
You don't really album you don't really go much to the bathroom when it's just nothing but cocaine and milk in your sister
I feel like that is the recipe seven pounds. Yeah, but I I'm gonna have to say
I usually agree with 100 with mr. Henry Soprowski, but cocaine and milk that is a recipe for a problem
No, no, no, you get the peppers to even it out
You guys might be thinking we're joking no
David bowie survived on cigarettes cocaine peppers and milk for like two years
And nobody and nobody not even bowie knows why he did it
He just fell into it. It's like well, this is me now
I just imagine what his breath smelled like. Yeah, I was gonna go close to him
Yeah, I'm thinking, you know, he had a lot of women at this time. I would assume as well. What does that taste like?
His magical sauce he was married to a woman named Angela from 1970 to 1980 who and by the way
They did also have a pretty open relationship
Uh, he bowie was super fond of the blowjob
Um or a person though. I mean that that's milk peppers cigarettes and coke
Can you imagine what that come tasted like? Oh, that's probably burnt a hole through the tile
Like an ale like the aliens blood
So no matter what we say bowie what was going through bowie's head at the ziggie stardust time
He was in way over his head
So 1974 saw the release of diamond dogs, which diamond dogs does not get enough credit for its completely horrifying
post-apocalyptic imagery the opening track future legend is an extremely unsettling spoken word piece
Where in bowie talks about how quote fleas the size of rats sucked on rats the size of cats
But he was trying to build up to a rhyme for that
He got it. He got there. He got there. And the gay folk cover of the album is an absolute beautiful horror
Shows bowie as a naked half dog man top half bowie bottom half dog flanked by two
overweight blue dog women in green bikinis all three have this weird bizarre kind of troll hair red
And all three look like they're ready to kill no cocaine involves anywhere in that cover design
I just want to be the employee at sears when they show up for the photo shoot
Like what kind of backdrop do you want? We got the tree. We got woods
I want something that shows the power of stasis and how I am between god and man on a spaceship to bars
We got a blue. We got a blue one. I like the blue. Oh
Diving dogs marks the point in bowie's career when the simple and somewhat innocent fascination with the occult
The you'd used on for inspiration on hunky dory and the man who sold the world
turns into a full-blown
extremely harmful obsession
And with bowie status as a world famous rock star increasing steadily along with the paranoia
It was almost certain that conflict with other world famous rock stars would occur
David bowie found his antagonist in the form of led zeppelin guitarist jimmy pate
If you don't know and I found out recently that some of you out there don't
Led zeppelin was one of the heaviest bands of the 70s particularly the early to mid 70s
And their stock and trade were songs about either fucking or magic
Specifically lord of the rings type magic right jimmy page in particular
The guitarist was heavy into the occult and he even went as far as to buy allister krally's old house, which
coincidentally
Burned down just a few months ago, and I'd like to think that bowie
One of his last wishes
Burned it down himself and it down burn it down and the wizards house
Down right will not conquer me in death
I don't know men at the time because I just can't imagine that bowie in the 70s
While all that coke is just like his he's just so flimsy that he can't even like strike a match
The match wins somehow he lights himself on fire
I was said that bowie was deathly terrified of jimmy page because he believed that jimmy page
Was a powerful warlock hell bent on cast and harmful spells against him
We've got a nerd alert. It's a postmortem nerd alert and it's going for david bowie
Can you understand that like most people in bands excited honestly except for marcus
Are incredibly lazy
I'm stunned people. They they have no drive. They're sitting around noodling jimmy page
I'd like to think yes. He'd like to wear a wizards hat
And yes, he'd like to he liked to write magic lyrics and stuff again
But I think one thing that we forget in all of this is that occult teachings and magic writings also just straight up
Help you get laid
Right right yeah, and that if you want to talk about magic all the time
It helps you get laid by the exact type of people that you want to get laid by witchy people
You want to meet a hot witchy woman?
You got to talk about magic to get them to want to have sex with you
But that's what jimmy page also may have been doing. I'm gonna say
The world famous rock star behind the the magic discussion probably helped. Yeah, if you're putting up fucking
Yeah
Rebuter parts and radio shack and you're trying to talk to a woman there being like
Sometimes I believe that this realm is just a fold on top of the next
I don't even know why I'm in a radio shack. I don't need anything from 1992
Yeah, but if you're jimmy page you can sit and talk about hermeticism
But you could also pause every once in a while to say play the riff from whole lot of love right?
Yeah, exactly and panties just like literally go
Seems to shoot out the side and the pussy just goes up and all of a sudden
He's just like he becomes really tiny in his mind and he's up inside of her
Do the panties go into the or out like an incredible hulk thing or sort of a consumption like a black hole thing
It's out and then he's tiny crawling up the herlabia's and then going up to the clit and just
Like it's a fucking speed back. Yeah, like a drum solo
Well, well, of course a lot of this is anecdotal type stuff, but I
In my research found a comment on the website mysticbanana.com
Titled is it true jimmy page tried to kill david bowie with his magic powers
That just might refute this. This is what the comment said in full
No, it was never true jp actually liked having db around it as beckoning because db always had the best hero and connections in the states
me
Jimmy was actually so fond of db and tried to help him out of his paranoia by leaving db fingernail clippings in a milk carton
Fully urine for db to keep in the refrigerator alongside of his own
So that db could have a spell cast on jp of db found his paranoia to be true as weird as it is
It sounds today
That is the honest truth of an ex heroine dealer who was there
We got some purple stuff. We got some orange juice. We got a piss gallon piss drug full of fingernails
Don't you dare touch it? That's my jimmy pager and I used to cast a counter spell if he ever finds my magical elixir
What what kind of apple juice is this? This is a tasty, uh
Do you like it? Yeah, I do. It's very good
Sometimes I wonder why I keep all this urine in the fridge, but then I just
Got a peppery. I just feel fine, and then I know why I know exactly why
Well either way by 1975
Bowie was in the throes of full blown cocaine psychosis, which is an actual
Medical condition. He would late. He later said that he was hallucinating almost
24 hours a day during this period and he always kept a copy of psychic self defense by deon fortune nearby
Which describes itself as a quote safeguard for protecting yourself against paranormal
Malevolence
I'm so glad everybody can join me at my house right here. This is my gold record for zaky sodas and spider's remorse and over here
This is just a safeguard for protecting yourself against paranormal malevolence and over here is the refrigerator
Where I keep my jimmy page urine now if you all please leave
Leave this dinner party is over
Kind of straighten the last two things were kind of odd there
So besides protecting himself from jimmy page
Bowie also became convinced that a coven of black lady witches were trying to steal his semen
So they could use it to impregnate themselves to create a baby bowie to sacrifice to the devil
Now he might be on to something there. That could that that seems actually kind of reasonable
And being single is hard. It is it is before tinder
He also sometimes switched to believing that the black lady witches wanted his semen for the purpose of building a david bowie
Hamunculus. What's a hamunculus?
A hamunculus is a totem type creation normally in the shape of a body that is said to a lot of times an ancient jewish lore
That you can use it to
They call also called a golem that you can use this thing to serve like it's a it's kind of like a frankenstein monster
And you can use it either for a magic ritual
Like as a to stand in place of a person that you're trying to do something for or against in a ritual or for it to come
To life on its own and I guess
Do copycat albums? Is that what they want to do? They think it's going to roll around and steal david bowie's cocaine?
I just feel like it's a
Really mean thing to call a tall person in high school
Hamunculus you're actually pretty lucky that no one's ever called you
I don't have any magic friends growing up
They did a lot of coke though. So david bowie in 1975 arrived at what could be called the cocaine capital of the world
In the mid 70s san antonio, texas
Is that right? Am I right?
No, no
Los angeles california, and I actually have to take it back
This is where he hung out with the bassist for deep purple
That would be glenn hugh's when he first got to los angeles
But he would soon move out of glenn's house after finding out that he was living just a few doors down from the site of the
Lobby onka murders perpetrated by the manson family, which it must be remembered in 1975
That it only happened six years before and of course there are also you know another person in the music industry if you'll remember
Dennis wilson was heavily involved with the manson family
So manson and magicians at that point in time weren't a groovy mix, especially if you're all
Psyched out on cocaine. That's interesting. I would have thought that he might be drawn to it
It's kind of cool. No, I mean it's kind of cool
Maybe at a different point in his life you would have been drawn to it, but if you're all gacked out
Uh, the thought that an entire family of hippies might come and murder you
Tends to freak you out a little bit. Yeah, his paranoia was already at its height
Yeah, and uh, all of that just seemed like some pretty heavy dark vibes
I imagine and helter skelter was already well known the entire story of the manson family at this point
Was well known at least vencent boogliosi's version of the manson family was well known at this time and bowie was very very
Uh aware of the devil at this point in his life
as we'll see
with
What happened when he moved into his next house?
So him and his wife angela ended up buying a house that was formerly owned by the dancer gypsy rose lee
Who bowie discovered soon after moving in had painted a hexagram on the floor of one of the rooms
And after angela david bowie's wife from 1970 to 1980 as she told it she spent
Days coming down bowie after that little incident. Yeah, I feel like she's really the unsung hero here
She must have been aging like the president. I mean how difficult is it to be angela?
The wife of coked out gacked out david bowie, but she definitely did not age well
I'm sure she did period. I think fucked with her
Pretty hard care to make her who she is now. She's a fucking mess now. Yeah, but if you read like say if you read, uh, please kill me
Uh, which is that's her autobiography
No, it's an oral history of a punk
Uh, it's a one of the best rock and roll books ever written
Uh, but if you read that book, uh, and you listen to some of the people that are sort of that were sort of behind the scenes
A lot of them say that bowie wouldn't have made it without angela that she sort of steered him in the right direction
musically
So after the whole hexagram, uh fiasco
David claimed that he witnessed with his own eyes the devil rising out of their indoor pool one night
So i'm gonna say rich people's problems. Can I just kind of not have sympathy for the guy who?
You imagine satan coming from his indoor pool. That's awesome. That's all yeah, I mean yeah, because the whole time
I've just been like, oh, yeah finally made it. There's everything like a hell yeah satan
I just noodled on my fucking guitar like watching him fucking dance on top of my hot tub
I think I have a dark brain though because I watched that documentary the nightmare everyone with sleep paralysis
They looked like great dreams to me
This sounds like an awesome fantasy
So david after he saw the devil decided it was time for an exorcism
He reached out to a woman named cherry vanilla
Who it must be noted was a proprietor of one of america's very first phone sex services and also
One of the central figures of bowie's main man management company in the mid 70s
cherry put david in contact with a woman named walley elm lark and nothing is more reliable than a woman named walley
Elm lark and our lark elm lark elm lark like the tree bird because she was a white witch
Yeah, she was a white witch from the new like bet middler
Ah, yes, that's a white bitch
white bitch
She was a white witch from the new york school of occult arts and sciences
That was located over on 14th and 7th right over there in manhandling. I've got him
I'm a porter buddy. Yeah, thanks to the fucking to tell them
And and walley she was by all accounts super groovy 70s gal
She recorded as for example, she recorded a spoken word album with robert fripp of king crimson
In which she talked about how spirits from other places took the form of musicians such as jimmy hendrix
Mark boland lead singer of t-rex, of course david bowie and
Mike gibbons the drummer from badfinger not david crossby, huh? No cross be involved
Same time. You're not saying this correctly marcus in order to correctly say the sentence. It must sound like this
She recorded a spoken word album with robert fripp of king crimson, man. It was the fucking dopest in i've ever heard, man
You talk about spirits from other places. They take the forms of musicians
Such as jimmy hendrix's one
T-rex dude was one. He was a spirit mark bowie, right? David bowie, of course. He sucked dick
And Mike gibbons the drummer from badfinger, which I had the same time is just like why him. Yeah
I couldn't find out why she thought
Particularly just the drummer from badfinger who bad fingers
They're good like gonna say it's one of the worst names in rock and roll history. Mike gibbons badfinger
Oh bad fingers fine. They had that something baby blues a fantastic song. I'm saying the name itself
It sounds like a like a down syndrome bond villain
I am badfinger. I am badfinger
Okay, I want you to give me a cake
days bond
I want you to give me a cake so that we can pretend it's my birthday
Bond james bond. Can you find me a better villain? This is embarrassing for my brand
So in a phone conversation from new york to los angeles
Elmlark gave bowie a series of spells and incantations
Plus a list of magical accoutrements that he could use to exercise his indoor pool of the devil
So bowie and angela whom this account comes from by the way
Set up an old-time elector and began the exorcism now angie who it must be said
Was more than a little skeptical about bowie's occult dabblings
Still had to admit that something strange did happen that night. She said she was totally sober
And she always thought that anything occult was total bullshit and that he was just sort of putting on airs
And was as she said trying to scare jimmy page. Hey, uh, it turns out guys, uh, you got a whirlpool
That's actually just that's a whirlpool every time you hit that button. You think it's a light
No, that turns on the that turns on the the whirlpool
So I don't see the possession, but this is a hot tub. You guys know that, right? Yeah
So that's the bubble because it's a it's a hot tub
I well you guys are pretty nude
So once you get clothes and we can kind of talk about my fee for just coming over here and just confirming that this is a hot tub
okay
So as bowie performed the incantations
The water in the pool started to bubble violently and angie says not in the matter that say
Pool jets would create and when the ritual was over
Angie said that there was a stain at the bottom of the pool
That she said reminded her of a gargoyle statue very sinister and years later
Angela talked to the properties real estate agent who told her that no matter what any new owner tried
No matter how many times they tried to repaint the pool the stain came back every single time
It's a dookie mark. You'd be surprised how hard it is to come out of the terracotta bottom of a pool
And I will say it does look like a gargoyle form. Yeah, only because uh
I got some hold of the the client's
Special powder over here. I don't know what this is and my balls felt really moist
And so I decided to put it on my balls, but now I'm just seeing gargoyles everywhere
So those of you who are particular fans of nazi occult lore
Might have perked up your ears a little earlier when we mentioned the vril society
But you'll be happy to know that that wasn't the only fascination that bowie had with nazis and the occult for around
1973 bowie got a hold of a copy of the spear of destiny by trevor ravenscroft
We mentioned this book during our nazi occult series as one that had me fooled for about its first 100 pages or so
Before I checked it out and discovered that the book was a complete and total fraud
If you don't remember the general idea behind the book is that hitler was a magically imbued
Super sorcerer who is obsessed with finding the spear of destiny
Which bestowed upon those who discovered its secrets the power to rule the world
And now while I had the power of the internet and the hindsight that living in the year 2016 gives me
Bowie had no such luxury in the early 70s and took the book for a complete and total
Fact I will say cocaine was the original google
You just had all the answers flowing through your head gave you confidence
So you have the confidence that you were right. He's seen devils in his pool. Um, again
Lips red from pepper
Got dukey gargoyles a lot into everything
I think he would have picked up a menu and he was just like this is a wonderful book
It's got hamburgers and fries in it. I must I have a new idea for a concert
Well, I'll dress up as a giant burger
And I'll go out to the audience and let them eat me
I do like that. I do David. You cannot make a character out of every single piece of paper you read
So not only is the spear of destiny
Wonderfully bizarre and if if you're really interested in in nazi occult or like alternate history novels
The spear of destiny is a fucking hoot man. It is so
So much fun and let's not call it alternate history. It's just lies. Yeah, I'm alternate history an alternate a
Fictional an historical fiction book is what I would call it
Ben it's a lot historical fiction. That's that is an actual literary genre benjamin
I know I know it does give it a little bit of gravitas that I don't but again
Remember it is alternate history to us. It is truth in some realm
That's right
But no matter how bizarre it is you can actually see where bowie may have gotten one or two ideas from it
In the chapter the drug induced vision of adolf hitler
Ravenscroft described how hitler on the advice of a sinister hunchback who ran in a cult bookstore in vienna
Took piety and with a dwarf named Hans as his trip sitter
Hitler hallucinated a series of past lives that convinced him that he was the rebirth of the villain
Clingsor from the Wagner opera Percival
Which hitler believed was based on landulf of kapua an actual person
And now we're not saying that this did not happen, right?
It may have happened
It could be that when hitler was living in vienna before world war one
He may have known a sinister hunchback who under in a book called bookstore. He may have taken
peyote with a dwarf named hans
We don't know
but
Well, if his life was written by david lynch then he definitely did
But supposedly according to trevor ravenscroft
This convinced hitler threw a very roundabout way that i refuse to get into here that trevor took about 40 pages trying to explain
That hitler was the antichrist
Even though bowie wasn't into hallucinogens
It is possible that he was trying to emulate hitler's shortcut to transcendence because bowie was
Obsessed with hitler for a short period of time and by obsessed i mean him and mc jagger saw
a screening of triumph of the will
And bowie got super into the showmanship of hitler
And that's what he said he said about hitler that hitler was the first great rock star
That he turned an entire country into a stage show
Which he got into a lot of trouble for his gas pseudo pro hitler stances at the time because he also said that he
Was so consumed with uh the theatricality of it all and he was so consumed with sort of the path
Uh of the occult knowledge that the nazis were trying to find that he
Totally forgot about all the bad things that they did right. Yes. Mick jigger would have gotten into it. He was really into the fashion
Yeah, yeah, he was super into the fashion and this is also when he's sort of
Of and that's of course at this point. He's starting to ramp up to
What is possibly his most fashion centric character the thin white duke?
And the thin white duke is the character that he created for station to station
And the thin white duke is what you become when you eat nothing but peppers and drink nothing
But milk and do nothing but cocaine for two years. You become a tiny
Sliver thin husk of a human being with the palest white skin that you could possibly imagine
I just wish I had his confidence. I know
I just wish I could have had this support system
That he had that just were like, yeah
Every time david bowie had an idea they were just like yep
You go do it. Yo, yeah, and you know what he was right almost every time he was he was really good at it
He was really good again. This is the dangerous thing. Remember this is in the hands of a artistic
Genius, he's a genius at doing this
You can't just do it
No, no, don't just walk around and being like i'm the fat wide fat wide prince
You're immediately you can't just walk around like hey, hey, hey everybody. Hey, hey, hey, hey
I'd sing old polkas and dirty polkas about how fat my wife is like it's not gonna
You're not gonna get super start up. I could dirty polka might might get you some fame the biggest
Oh, I don't want to you can have her. She's too fat for me. She's too fat for me. Hey, she's too fat for me
Hey, I don't mind you can have her. She's too fat for me. Hey, she's fat. She's too fat. She's too fat for me. Hey
Hey, I love it. I can't wait to have a wedding
So as far as station to station go goes it is
Amazing that bowie survived the recording of this album. In fact, he doesn't even remember recording it
He was quoted as saying I know it was recorded in la because I read that it was right and if you listen is
When you listen to station to station, which I really hope you do after
Uh, we finished this episode know that station to station one of the most brilliant albums of the 70s
Was recorded in 10 days. It wasn't like say like television's marquee moon where they
rehearsed 10 hours a day for six months before going in and recording it over a two day period
He just walked into the studio
Recorded this fantastic album in 10 days
Does it even remember doing it and then just left and three of those days were spent on his mime tracks
Which didn't translate just didn't translate to the album
I was making a box
David I just don't know if it's a it's an audio medium. Uh now I have to start again. I was supposed to interrupt at me
I
How long is the track exactly that we're
As long as I can mime
More peppers
It's a station really blowing through these peppers
The italian grocery next door would be like I don't understand
How many a palette of pepper are we bringing in and I try and I try and I try and maybe maybe an orange pepper
And maybe a green pepper
No, man, just reds
Good year for the pepper biz two years of busy busy pepper business some pepper
It's just like this bubble's never gonna pop
So station to station has some of the most over references to the occult since hunky dory
the cobalistic tree of life is explicitly referenced in the title track as well as
Crowley's pornographic book of poems white stains now. I think
It's been a long time since we've read anything from white stains not since our great b666 episode a few years ago
Let's have henry read a poem from white stains. This one is called go into the highways and hedges and compel them to come in
Let my fond lips, but drink thy golden wine my bright-eyed Arab
Only let me eat the rich brown globes of sacramental meat
Steaming and firm hot from their home divine
And let me linger with thy hands in mine and lick the sweat from dainty dirty feet
Fresh with the loss aroma of the street and then anon. I'll glue my mouth to thine
It's kind of a nice poem
You got the vomit noises in the poem. I'm sorry
Tell me young Arab what rhymes with
It made me like a
I will say my I think my favorite
Two lines of any poem or the rich brown globes of sacramental meat steaming and firm hot from their home divine
I eat shit in that right? Yeah, or roast beef. That's exactly what it is rich brown brown globes
He's eating little dookie balls
Steaming and firm which that means they are fresh and the man has eaten his fiber
Hot from their home divine meaning the asshole is what?
Alistair Crowley bees uh, it seems to be a holy place. David Bowie ate dookie. No, Alistair Crowley did. Oh, we know that's a fact
But we also don't know that David Bowie ate dookie. He did hang out with Lou Reed a lot
And Lou Reed ate dookie. Well Lou Reed liked to have the plate glass done. Ah the deniro. Yeah
Yeah, Lou Reed. We had the plate like to have the plate glass done. And Lou Reed also did like to shit in mouths
Um, and would very casually just walk up to him. It was like, hey, you mind you want to go uh back to my hotel room
And I'll shit in your mouth and if they said no, you'd say like cool and walk away cool. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, we're good. Can't help but can't blame a guy for asking. No, you cannot
dookie king
So at any rate the song station to station is essentially the coke-fueled roadmap of Bowie's
Misadventures in the occult the line you drive like a demon from station to station
Coupled with the line one magical movement from kether to malcoo
Tells you that he realized by the time station station came out that he went too far
Too fast and fried himself in the process of trying to find some occult knowledge because
kether to malcooth
Kether it's either kether is the high I think it's kether is the crown of the cabalistic tree of life
It's the top malcooth is the bottom the earth and when he says one magical movement from kether to malcooth
He means that he tried
without really doing anything in between to go from the bottom to the top and
Completely fried himself in the process. He was saying that because you're supposed to it's supposed to be take years of prep
Yeah, it's years of meditation and and considering the chakras and doing all they're supposed to go through a
Stage by stage by stage and if you just try to poke your way through the kundalini line, you're gonna come out
Sounding like a jackass
Interesting. Yeah, you're gonna come out the thin white duke a husk of a man
Like an absolute husk of a human being
Which he's at the end by station to station
Bowie's at the end of a fruitless journey, but still
Trying to understand pictures that were taken that were used as the back cover to a later release of station to station
Show bowie wearing black and white striped clothing sitting on the floor sketching the cob the
Cobbalistic tree of light and it's this picture
That connects bowie's failed sojourn into the occult in the 70s with David Bowie's very last video
Lazarus and his death soon after it's released last week now
But before in between the station to station and lazareth, we know David Bowie went through nine other like permutations
He did like in the industrial thing
He was like he did a bunch of dance albums. He did a bunch of stuff. He became much more normal him and he married a mon
Well, I mean he had some beautiful kids
Well, not until uh, but well right after station to station. He recorded the berlin trilogy. Uh, awesome, which is amazing
And low low was awesome heroes lodger and then he followed that up with uh, scary monsters
Which is also amazing and then it's 30 years of pretty mediocre stuff. Oh, he found love
Yeah with the mon. Yeah, and like I think he married a mon in like the early 90s or something like that
He did good. He did good. He didn't have to do more than he already did
And I think that's that's a thing to do
It's like he had already made his mark and at that point you're making music because you like to make music
Yeah, but and then because heroes the berlin trilogy then just kind of feel like like he's just a really and
We go really good musician. He was a beautiful musician who knew what he was doing
And he didn't uh, he kind of dropped some of the really extreme viewpoints of his younger career
Well, he was coming off of cocaine with low low is the follow-up to station to station. He's coming off of cocaine
Uh, at least it's his first attempt to kick cocaine. Of course
Yeah, it was him and Iggy Pop got together because then him and Iggy Pop were really close. Well, it was but it was more him and Brian
Eno with low
Uh, of course, Brian Eno was in Roxy music
He produced the three best talking heads albums and produced one of the best albums of the 70s here come the warm jets
Uh, but if you listen to station to station the what here come the warm jets. Yeah, I don't I feel like that's what uh,
The uh, what was like the guy who shits and mouths?
Hello, I'm for just your crowd. Oh, no. Oh Lou Reed. Yeah Lou Reed. Here comes the warm jets
We're mine for that poor woman, you know
Here come the warm jets
How was your time with Lou? How was the date?
Bro, a proud date
But if you listen to low uh and uh low
Um, the the first habit like side a is you know, they're they're fantastic
David Bowie songs like sound and vision keep crashing and I keep crashing the same car
But side b is mostly instrumental
Uh, and to me it sounds like a transition between one part of his life and the next
Is the first part, you know that what he had been doing the last like four or five years that he had kind of been
Working towards this sort of working towards this knowledge trying to find some sort of hidden secret knowledge
And then with station to station he admitted that he failed
Uh, that he hit a brick wall. He almost died
Uh, and he had to start over and the side and side b of low to me really sounds like he's moving forward
But having no idea where he's going next. He has absolutely no idea what's in front of him
But he's still walking forward, which I think is something that Bowie took to the very end of his life
Which brings us to
black star
So for the last year or so those of us who follow stuff like this have heard the cancer rumors about David Bowie
When he died of cancer it was definitely it affected me, but it wasn't a shock because well
I tell you that christin miliotti on a disease and is in lazareth's his new musical
And she's been working with him for the past three months and she was saying how
He I asked her it's like is he sick because I heard that he was sick and she was like well
He's here every day. Yeah, and he's and he works really he's been working like crazy had limited hours
Um, uh, and he sometimes came in looking like he'd just come from treatment, but mostly it was like
What you're gonna find is that he had had a full revamp creatively
He had come back over the last year and out of nowhere when he got the terminal diagnosis of cancer
And he said this is that he it's like he had that purpose kind of clicked back in where he was like
I know what to do now
It's it's it's a full sweep back to my occult leanings and lazarus with a bit was a big step in that
And she also said he wore he had crazy sneakers and smelled really good. Hey, all right good to hear
Yeah on november 19th of last year bowie released the video for black star
Uh, and anybody who had heard the rumors and also anybody who was kind of interested in bowie's occult leanings
As soon as you watch black star, it's it's pretty much he's gonna die in 2016 because if you if you haven't watched the video it's
It's absolutely beautiful goofy at times like the sea the seizure dance the seizure dance
It's pretty fun black man white man little girl shake
It's
It's really it's really weird
but the
overall concept of
The video is absolutely beautiful
So the first thing that you see in the video is a skeleton in a spacesuit which harkens back to
His first hit space oddity, you know major tom all of that and then when the little
It's very interesting because then you see him kind going back to his own
That what grand morse when we talk about is we're just creatively creating these avatars for yourself a major tom
Was probably his first real like symbol of himself as this sort of man loss in space and then black star is
Where major tom goes? Yeah
He ends up on black star and then we see when you cut this the the astronauts body with this head
It's the skull headed. It's bejeweled
Covered in jewels much like the dead catholic saints and display in churches across eastern europe and he's putting himself as like saint bowie
Yeah, and that's not a far stretch. He he absolutely. He's he is self-aware. He knows that after he dies
He's gonna be yeah, people are gonna freak out. Oh, yeah
He's gonna be sanctified. He's gonna be beatified like david bowie as long as people are talking about music
David bowie will come up and then after
You get the the spacesuit the skeleton in the spacesuit you see the bandages covering his face
Which really is in both black star and lazars is I think the the creepiest image of them all because he's he's got these
Bandages over his eyes and he's got these tiny black buttons where the eyes should be and I think because also it's important
It's also I think it's an ironic self expression of the idea of like blind profit who paints eyes
It's like this whole time. Do you've looked at me as of a person who knows what's coming in the future?
But I don't and you view me as like and so in order to portray that it's like I am blinds
But I draw this symbol of eyes on me that you've done
You've made me do because now you look at me and you believe that I have the fucking secret, but I don't have the secrets
I don't know man. I don't know what's gonna happen. Yeah, nobody knows. I mean black star is I mean he is terrified
If you watch these videos, he is not going gently into death
He's going into death not knowing what is coming next and he is admitting to everyone that he has no idea
What's coming next and his producer said the same thing he only had when he came in
He only had several images in mind and one was the crystal
But it was it was major tom
He was basically he named check major tom and the other one is he wanted a lot of scarecrows
Yeah, and I don't know if that's just because he thinks scarecrows are cool because when I first watched black star
I didn't know he was just about to die. I watched it. I was just like
David Bowie's
Doing something. I was just like well, it's gotta be cool
It's gotta be right because it's David Bowie and this is what he obviously whatever he wanted this to be
Is exactly what he wanted it to be. You can never go wrong with a scarecrow out of ideas use a scarecrow
Well, it's also at the scarecrow. Uh, there's also three scarecrows. It's a reference to the crucifixion to Golgotha
Another occult reference
So those same bandages with black buttons link black star to his final video that came out just three days before he died
Lazarus one thing you might have noticed in that video where the strange black and white clothes that Bowie was wearing
And if you look back to the pictures of Bowie during the recording of station-to-station where he's sketching the
Cobbalistic tree of life
He's wearing the exact same clothes
And I think that Bowie late in life when he was facing death
Returned to the occult studies that he had failed at so badly in his youth
And it could be that it was only at the end of his life
He could truly understand that like he said in quicksand in 1971
Knowledge comes with death's release. Oh my god
Fuck yeah, you're on rock and roll never dies
And it really does it really does it and he will live on always because we
because of what he meant to so many people and the the occult thing aside like
Just this besides the symbolism is that the the reason why he is the most successful magician of all time is because
His creations will will live forever and it's showing that that it's that thing about art is that that that's all you need
That's where the magic is the magic is in creating something that wasn't there before
And living it and never looking back and he I don't know. It's it's kind of beautiful. It's it's incredible
He he will he's he's in history now forever. Yeah, it is a beautiful life. It is almost
a perfect artistic life
Uh, it's it's insane that this man was able to at the end of his life
He didn't die in a dumb hair went overdose. He didn't die in a car crash
It wasn't sudden. It was almost like he was ordained to do this
Like he was allowed to do this. Wow, but yeah rest in peace. Uh, David Bowie
Uh, he
It's it's I don't know. All right
Amazing what a what a informative episode about a musical genius and an artistic genius all around. Yeah
I mean, that's what he always said the other side Bowie. See you man. That's he always says that he wasn't he never considered himself a musician
He considered himself an artist who used music as a medium and I will say a lot people do want to see Bowie on the other side
But you didn't see him in real life. So you probably won't see him there either. Uh, he's busy
He's in like a special park. You know, he's just like being like really cool. He's in the VIP side. Yeah, you're still not gonna meet him
Yeah, tell me Beethoven. Do you have peppers here?
Oh my god, yeah, all right. Uh, what a great episode great research everybody that was wonderful
Rest in peace David Bowie and I'm gonna go back on that diet of his you gotta go peppers milk and coke
It's gonna be big
Let's see. So what do we usually do at this point in the show? Uh, if you guys hail Satan to everyone
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Absolutely, and and uh, Henry you were saying that you wanted to yell at all the listeners for not watching heroes reborn
Yes, you did this
You did this you you not the canadian staff
The canadian grips, but you're uh, how's uh, you're pretty face going everyone wants an update on that
Uh, we're fucking crushing it third season. It's gonna be the best thing we've ever done
Wonderful man. Can't wait. Awesome. Oh, and if you so and I am so I am starting to include things on the patreon campaign as well
Uh, that's coming up. Uh, I I guess I will I'm doing readings of the satanic bible
Um, which is filling me with juice
Yeah, what kind of juice
Come
I think I'm making love better since
You know let a satanic bible let it out though. You gotta let it out. Don't want to keep it all in there
No, no, no these the pillows in this hotel room are
living fear
Ever since I I mean I I'm uh myself. I'm reading the old testament and ever since I've started I've been a lot angrier
All right, very good. Yeah, if you read in the god voice enough it starts to seep into your real life
No, that's exciting. I think I want to read something about duck hunting. I was I watched something on that the other day
Very difficult to hit a duck. It really is you can read whatever you like man. It's ben's choice
Yep, so duck hunting or maybe I'll just eat a couple of muffins
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Even more than that. I'm telling you
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All right, hail me as well. Yeah, and hi okay
Hail bowie. Oh, yeah hail bowie