Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 211: Dean Corll Part II - The Ready Sled

Episode Date: February 11, 2016

The Dean Corll series continues with the introduction of his infamous torture board and the boat shed where he disposed of the bodies of dozens of boys, as well as his first accomplice in 29 murders, teenager David Brooks.

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I am Ben Kisselstair at at the beautiful Marcus Parks with this is always Henry's a browse Henry Henry Sorry, I'm just the sheriff of the Houston police department. I didn't hear a rich man get murdered. That's fun It's commentary. No poor people got killed. Don't worry about it. Go back to sleep So fast Only to have the ease of mind of a sheriff of Houston. Oh, yeah, just the lack of concern We're on to part two of Dean Corral. Oh, yeah, and this is the part where we're gonna find out just how

This man along with two accomplices killed 28 kids mostly in the same neighborhood over a period of just three years a berserker Kill streak that lasted three years highly organized Captain or secret in it and also to be honest if we're looking at prime real estate of victims too of being like strong young men and like they are going missing off the street and Nobody thought to look about him because they just thought everybody was going to join the carnival like it's fucking Pinocchio And nobody's going to there is no magical carnival. There is no with something wicked this way comes carnival I wish there was it's I would be there. Yeah

28 kills in three years. Ask yourself. What are you doing to achieve your dreams? My god, well, I hope to go to derive for toilet repair for toilet prepare That's a job that never goes out of business as a matter of fact if my child wanted to do that I'd be all in yeah toilet prepare That's what I do I make sure that the bolts are tight because it's nothing worse when you sit down in a toilet and the toilet seat gets all swivelly That's a great job Now to this day Houston is no stranger to crime ranking number three on the FBI's most dangerous cities in Texas report

That was released just last year But specifically Houston has a long and storied history in the crime of murder in 1957 Houston had the highest per capita rate murder rate in the country earning the rapidly growing metropolis the nickname Murder City got a move there. Yeah, honey. Should we move to Tulsa or? Utah or Murder City. Well, which is the city that's got murder in the title of it because as you know I am a murderer and I hope to achieve higher degrees of success in my My hierarchy of murder. Well, Darryl. We're going to Texas

Yeah in 1966 before Houston had even a million people the city had five Dozen more victims of homicide than in all of England which had a population of 54 million because and that's why we kicked those wussies out of this country That's right in 1970 the year in which coral began his three-year murder spree Houston had dropped from number one to number three and the highest murder rate per capita in the nation being surpassed Only by Dallas in Atlanta. Hmm at one point as mayor of Houston when the numbers kind of drop It's like when you're number one and only one thing right any slip in whatever the category is makes you very upset That's right as mayor of Houston

I guarantee we get the murder rates back to number one starts handing chainsaws out to postal workers You're gonna change so you're gonna change so in his 1971 book Houston the once and future city author George Fierman recorded a popular limerick That was going around the city at the time in Houston We feel no aversion when others are casting aspersion we never mind much the murders and such We take them as a weekend aversion. So what did it take to make Texans do poetry murder? It just took mass murder and they're like, I think we're gonna get into poetry I'm also very upset that New York doesn't have a limerick that we all know about it

So you're asking why was murder so prevalent in Houston? There's a myriad of reasons one the town still very much had a frontier Spirit about it with all the violence that comes along with such a spirit But it still was a modern city in modern times Right, can you have a frontier spirit if there's a supermarket right down the street where barbers still surgeons? Right, well, he's still just if you had a cut what a guy's splash moonshine on it me like get out of here faggot Yeah, I feel like they just use those as an excuse I'm a boy. I have lymphoma

Just dumping bourbon all over his head. I went to the doctor with lymphoma and he just gave me a bowl cut Well, yeah, I mean it wasn't that far removed. I mean you still had cowboys and Indians You still had guys riding on horses up until the 1910s. You guys have played Red Dead Redemption You know how that goes Yes, I remember that when Houston turns into zombies 1865 the year was Red Dead Redemption was headed. No 1970 blah blah blah They had a Kmart they had red lights better blue light specials to go to Well, of course not just to add the frontier spirit. It also had a

ridiculously high gun ownership rate In fact, the vast majority of deaths in Houston were by gun or not deaths murders the vast majority of murders in Houston Also by gun the city was exploding the book the man with a candy really illustrates this beautifully at the beginning It's really awesome. He was talking about how the this there was all of this not only oil money But every sort of industry in the world was moving there. There was gigantic that would the astrodome was built all of those huge They called it the eighth wonder of the world all this crazy construction projects happening And so at one point they're like like happen what happened in New York City There was a gigantic influx of money in there, which of course immediately

Sets off the statuses of everybody that makes the poor extra extra poor and the rich extra extra It ends of HH homes as well, right? Some what and this sort of thing is still happening in Texas to this day It's happening in Midland Odessa right now Midland Odessa is in the middle of a big oil boom. Guess what the most dangerous city in Texas is right now, Odessa Oh, this happens over and over again. This is a this is definitely a pattern in the state of Texas Well, I'm just so happy. This is the episode where I found the name for my firstborn daughter Odessa Odessa kiss'll come over here. I can just imagine you're hunched back 270 pound daughter. What is it dad? Oh?

You're beautiful to me Odessa. Why don't you go run around nude in the streets? Mr. Kissle we've returned your girl your daughter your daughter Well, really, you know really the biggest problem in Houston was their grossly understaffed police force in 1970 cops in Houston number 2200 in a city of 1.3 million Half the absolute minimum required to police such a population and in addition to being understaffed The force was also underpaid with many cops having to take outside jobs to make ends meet

But the biggest injustice is that this was a problem that had a very easy Very simple solution federal funds to beef up the force were readily available But police chief Herman short high on that frontier spirit Refused any and all assistance calling any federal assistance whatsoever a quote-unquote handout a true American I like this guy So it must be interesting if you're if you are on the police force one morning, but then at night You're the garbage man. Yeah, so like somebody be like I need some help officer. I've been Rob. He's like, you know I'm here to pick up trash

Get back to me at eight hours when I'm on my cop shift. Sorry. I'm on no sleep whatsoever I left a badge on this badge is useless while I'm a garbage man Just these garbage lifting hands are the only thing I can use but I still carry my gun That's something I shoot the tires Yeah, and you know not surprisingly Herman short the police chief who you know refused all these federal funds He resigned pretty shortly after Dean curl's body count broke the previous record of 25 That was set a couple years earlier by murderer of migrants one corona who were definitely gonna cover again Except what you're best at be like I'm the number one sheriff is letting 29 young strong men get murdered in my city

Yeah, something no because of that staff problem the workload that officers faced was so stacked that a lot of them just threw up their hands and gave up which is a very human reaction you're faced with this overwhelming workload You don't know where to start. It just keeps coming in you just stop Mm-hmm. You just can't approach it whatsoever and cops even started making a game to see who could leave work The earliest because they would they would see who could leave the work early So then they would pass the buck of different like basically if they got an assignment for the day They would just leave it on somebody else's desk that they were walking out also homicide, which is really interesting also to cover 55 other types of crime

56 it's insane. They literally had to sit and They they they were covering like treason like all this like ridiculous horseshit that they had to cover all at once And so murder was the last thing that we're looking at well They had to cover every crime in which greed was not a motive So they had assault battery rape not to mention murder and you know how many homicide detectives they had 42 1.3 million people 42 guys covering every single violence related crime So basically when you say greed you mean theft, right? I mean theft. Yeah. Yeah any sort of theft anything like that Like that was a complete like that was beat cops. That was a different division

But homicide was in charge of anything related to violence and because of this Homicide detectives generally ignored everything that wasn't a murder Anything and everything that wasn't a murder did not get any attention In fact if a woman called up the police like hey my husband's beating me I need someone to come out the police to say like well actually you need to come down to the station to report that we can't send anyone out there, right and Really what would happen with the murders since there were so few people and so many murders Usually the murders didn't even really get that much attention

Those that weren't investigated. They called them misdemeanor murders and that was reserved for black victims or very poor white victims and other murders They would get at the most two days of investigation with most murders only getting an hour or two before the police just moved on And honestly half the homicide detectives were actively Investigating the murder of JR on Dallas. That's right. I believe that's true So basically the cops would be like oh, I'm sorry ma'am your husband's murdered. I'm gonna do everything I can Did you do it? Did you do it? Did you do it? Did you do it? Did you do it? Did you do it? You got a chance you got two chances to tell me

Did you even did you investigate the case? Did you do that? Did you ask did you do that? Did you do it? Yeah, I did it two times. You did it. Oh you did it twice. Okay. That's all I can do That is literally all I can do once you're changing to your garbage man clothes then you're fine to go Look, you know, I figured out how to solve the Rubik's Cube But you just take up all the stickers and put them all the colors on the same side dumb Yankees couldn't figure that out Well, the neighborhood where Dean Corral carried out his murder spree was filled with people that would have been classified as Misdemeanor murders one journalist. He said about the Heights. No newsmakers live here. No wealthy. No civic leaders No socialites. It is a sad

Tired place. I do find interesting about the Heights is the reason why the Heights was called the Heights is that because I mean He was just flat right and it was something like only five meters above sea line So back in the day there was these strikeouts of yellow fever And so what they would do is they would literally be like let's run to the hills where the fever can't catch us Legitimately and they would go to the Heights because they thought that that would make it because that was the highest place in the area And they thought they would be above the sickness You just take a big step up and then you're like can't get to me now Well, and Jack Olson author of the man with the candy. He described it as a place quote

Where one could imagine retarded children or senile ants locked away in attic crawls muttering in the shadows and what an imagination that is that's fun. That's where Marcus grew up No, when were you Marcus? Well, I mean muttering in the shadows Definitely yeah, but we didn't have an attic in our house. So fuck you Henry. Not bad Right, that's one way to avoid it But surprisingly the Heights was not a high crime neighborhood the worst criminal The Heights had seen before Dean Corral was a man that was known locally as the Heights Phantom And the phantoms emo was to appear naked at the doors of women before running off cackling into the shadows. Bye. Bye. Goodbye. See ya. Bye. Woo-woo-woo. Woo-woo-woo.

Oh my thousand rod scissors water in here. Woo-woo-woo. All right. Bye Ma'am just have to ask did he fart as he ran away? Oh, you know he did That's the phantom. But it seemed like the fart made him go faster. That is the phantom ma'am And when the phantom was captured he was just as quickly released and told to quote pull himself together I could imagine a cop just grabbing a guy with no clothes on and just a trench coat on just like ruffled him up by the shirt Be like come on. All right All right, come on. Come on. Think about what you're doing. Okay. It's like a frustrated father And there were criminals in the Heights of course thieves and such but the Heights there was nothing to steal in the Heights

So the criminals they would go to other neighborhoods people would know like yeah, you know, you know, Jeff he steals shit He's a thief, but he ain't stealing for me and he ain't stealing from my neighbor They said also and whatever the other thing too is that the criminals lived in the Heights That's like where they lived right so they didn't rock didn't shit where they ate Yeah, and also the whole town was connected like very it was very familial Everybody knew each other for forever for generation after generation So it's that common thing where you walk into what is essentially a bad neighborhood like in New York You see a lot like what Bed-Stuy used to be like where the Bed-Stuy everybody assumed yo you go there gonna get mugged

They'd be like no, that's just where the muggers live, right? It's actually the safest area in town. Yes Yeah, absolutely, and the thing is even if someone didn't live there forever Just people generally trusted each other like they just didn't really question the motives of other people as long as You were clean cut and as long as you didn't embarrass yourself Then you were good you were welcomed into the community and as for the teenagers of the Heights The kids and the parents that had a bit of a gentleman's agreement going on This is how one kid put it as long as we keep up with parents and don't embarrass everybody We can pop all the pills and smoke all the grass. We won't I look normal sure and they'll accept any of my friends

I've looked normal. They don't really have that much of a choice They know I could get up in the morning and hitch all the way to California and they never see me again Yeah, I love the they used like the the threat of them leaving as the reason for them to be terrible But that's what they're talking about the time This is the reason why Dean Corral and I'm getting away with what he did for so long is that there were so many Runaways because you're in a shit fuck town in the middle of Texas and the Basically if I live there the first thing I would do every day is wake up me like how the fuck do I get out of here? Right and one a really quick way is to meet Dean Corral and his two teenage boys and they'll get you out of there real fast

In a body bag. Yeah, this was the perfect place for Dean Coral to operate He could not have asked for better killing grounds. Well, we talk about this is again. This isn't a common example That's what what happened with Edmund Kemper it happened like these they've seen things it's these idyllic little towns where it's the perfect It's it's vulnerable. Yeah, it's ready for somebody to come in and take advantage of these social agreements and everybody set up I mean like well this kind of shit just doesn't happen here. Yeah, it's the nah That's what everyone says like well, maybe they'll have you notice all these kids going missing. Oh, maybe someone's behind this And everybody just goes yeah, I saw Becky Sue wobble and a little bit more the other day

I think they were just running train over here by the water tower I gotta do something it seems like a very fun place to be a teenager. I have to say and he won't get stoned all day Yeah, Becky Sue is just being like where's all these balls you used to run training on me. Yeah, that's that She's the real victim here now Let's get back to the story of Dean Coral with the candy factory officially out of business Dean started working full-time at Houston power and lighting testing electrical relays And he moved into a shed across the street from Cooley elementary school and there he installed a black light a TV a Stereo and a primitive alarm system that would flash a red light in his bedroom

Or anyone to show up at his shed Unannounced party house. I mean he this is a a web like that. He is a spider attracting flies He knows exactly what he's doing. He's been doing this since the candy factory We'll think about Michael Jackson creating the stuffed bear room that it led to the side of Michael Jackson wasn't a pedophile Whatever I'm gonna get into the greatest child entertainer of all time the Tina Turner private dancer of all child He didn't do the teddy bears weren't for the kids the teddy bears were for him We're not starting the conversation about Michael Jackson right now. He was a great host

He was a children the idea is that you build this place. What else does a 15 year old? Texas run almost pre-run away. Not even Texas. This is every teen in 1970 this is every teenager in America. They got all the coolest shit you want He's technically used to have a pool table, which means at any point. He could have another that's right He's got a black light cool done. Awesome. Led Zeppelin with a black light going. That's you're done Full-on TV. Yes, and he's got a security light boys Spend an hour. Just call me like it's light on yet. Oh, okay I'm gonna run away father. It's not on yet. All right, I'm a real close with my girl. It's not on yet. Damn. That is just the funnest goddamn

Wait, these handcuffs are getting real hot Dean It'll happen. Yeah All you need is a black light and a couch and the and allowing them and allowing people to use drugs in your house Yeah, it's the coolest house for a 15 year old to be in and you can straight up rape any boy Even there as you want Really, I mean most of the boys who regularly hung out at Dean's place They had fond ish memories of the time that they spent there They said that he was kind of weird a lot of the kids notice that he got a little giddy around the teenage boys

But for the most part they said that they thought Dean was just a quote-unquote good dude Well, another thing they said about him or that he was completely and totally anonymous and seemed like a shadow Yeah, that was the other way they sort of put it will go that more when the trio was all together But he was also like a nobody They were like you they went to his house and Partied all the time and they would go and they would like do whatever But Dean was just kind of a puppeteer or like around them like kind of being like oh, here's a toy and here's some weed But didn't we all have a house like this that we used to go to in our teens?

I mean I know for a fact there was a house that was owned by a 27-year-old who I believe was still a freshman in college And we would go over there and do everything we ever wanted to do and now that I think about it He was relatively creepy. Yeah, we had a ton of people like we had so many older dudes that were in their early to mid 20s Some of them in their late 20s early 30s just buy beer for all the kids Right they would hang out with all the kids and the kids at the time you're like oh, yeah He's cool, but every once in a while when you're hanging around Tom and it's like fucking Maybe like a two or three in the morning. It's like, you know markers. You're one of the good ones. Yeah They fuck the teenage girls like those are the guys that were fucking like the 16 17-year-old girls that we it was a love-hate relationship

Because they'd buy us beer But then they'd also take all the girls and there was not that many girls It was there were 12 kids in the class there were five girls So they're rapists essentially the third year olds having sex with 16 year olds I never realized how creepy Matthew McConaughey's character was in dazed and confused until right now Exactly what he was doing. See Natalie grew up He had a punk house so same like that, but they all the guys never had sex with the kid There was no sex in the house

So it was just more like trash and stuff and throwing things around but I think it's a punk. Well a punk a punk It's totally different punk. They've got ideals and shit like that like they're trying to make they're trying to make a point I got a bad point, but they're trying to make a point I got out of the punk movement as soon as they realized there are more rules in the punk movement than most prisons I mean, it's crazy how many rules there are apparently you can't get over six foot three. Otherwise, you're out I'm four inches too tall. I swear to God as soon as I got taller like you are intimidating us. You better go I could see I could see the children's book now like the saddest tallest punk Walking through me like all the jeans are so they're long on everybody else so fit perfect on me. I looked square

I don't need green hair to stand out No No, as far as we know Dean didn't kill any kids during these two years from 1968 to 1970 when kids were kind of coming in and out and hanging out at his house with the cool black light in the alarm Nor did his parties get as rowdy as they would down the line when his crew was complete What we do know is that this is when Dean would pick up his first accomplice David Brooks now he is a weird-looking kid super weird and he's also the one that we know the least about because he's the one He's still alive. He's still in prison, but he will not talk to anybody will not talk and even his confessions

Were kind of Kurt like he only confessed to so much, but yeah, Dave Wayne Henley will talk to anybody Oh, he's a he is a bit of a whore. Yeah camera, and I would also say Wayne Henley kind of coerced Kind of coerced David Brooks into confessing with him Wayne Henley kind of pulled them all in again This is a part of the reason why like I just feel like if you're going to be killing a bunch of boys a lot of times You're gonna have a couple of boy henchmen, and I think that John Wayne Gacy probably also had a couple of boy henchmen But they were wise enough slash stupid enough to not tell anybody is it what is it if you don't speak as opposed to speaking? What's more ego? Statistical, you know like what's worse we're claiming the crime saying oh, I did it like a terrorist or just refusing to talk about it though

It's in your then the victims families get no closure or because refusing to talk about it Makes you a good criminal and a bad person talking about the crimes and owning them technically makes you a showboat But it in some queer way you can change it for yourself that you're giving people validation closure Well, I've got some theories about David Brooks that we're probably gonna get into on on the next episode as far as your question goes There a bet but we still we need to get a little bit more information about the guy before you really get into it now Brooks was of Course from a broken home and had known Dean from the time that David was ten years old back When Dean was just the nice man with the candy across the street from his school But now that Dean was finally away from the prying eyes of his mother and the other candy factory employees

He could finally give in to the urges that have been just barely kept under wraps for so many years And now we're gonna see how again how many killers that were really close with their family and how it's it's sort of like they Can't blossom because what they say about Dean before is that he was incredibly polite He would never say no he was he would do anything his mother asked him to do He was devoted son devoted to his family devoted to the candy business and then soon as she was gone Same thing with Ed Dean same thing sort of with Jeffrey Dahmer when he finally moved away from his family when you finally start seeing them being like I'm free. I'm free. I can finally like let my hair down and and I could get those I can get those toe rings The only other girls have I do want to clarify

There is never a nice guy who works in the chocolate factory across from the school Never do it no do not any parent again Do not trust the man who sells candy ever they are their killers If you are a mayor of a small town and there is a candy factory across from a shut it down shut it down shut one of them down But first of all just but get all the candy. Yeah, yeah, yeah keep it in yourself and sit on it like you're Willy Wonka That's right a coral started taking advantage of the 14-year-old Brooks paying him sometimes five dollars sometimes ten dollars for blowjobs Dean giving Brooks taking and Brooks's former attorney a man named Jim Skelton said that Brooks absolutely idolized Dean

Who Brooks said was the first person to accept him for who he was because Brooks father like pretty much hated him He called him a sissy. He said that you know he he was no son of his And really like Dean coral was the he said he was the first one to ever be nice to him I mean David's father was dead wrong. If I was David, I'd be like I am getting paid to have my dick suck Do you have any what is more masculine than that? How fucking kick-ass on how motley crew is that are you crazy? Now less than a year after their first quote-unquote encounter David Brooks moved in with Dean coral and would soon become one of Dean corals to

Accomplices it all began in mid-December 1970 when Brooks walked in Unannounced on Dean molesting two young boys who were tied to Dean's infamous Torture Board well, we don't know if the torture board cops eventually found was the original The final design was seven the final design was a seven by three foot inch slab of thick unpainted plywood with holes drilled into each of the four corners Handcuffs were used for the wrists while the ankles were bound with nylon rope The boys would be sexually assaulted and tortured for hours sometimes days until they were finally put out of their misery by either

strangulation or a Simple shot to the head with a pistol my name is Dan treathers and I have made several of these boards with the handcuffs at the top and the Nylon cords at the bottom and they were never meant ever once to be used as a torture rack in any way shape or form It was to be used it was supposed to be used to simulate riding a sled in your imagination And I am appalled that my invention of it that came from a childhood dream of mine in the sandy deserts of the middle of Texas right I could never see snow yearn to sled because of pictures I've seen on the side of Christmas cookie containers, and I invented this what I like to call the ready sled And I am just I cannot believe the way my dream has been turned into a nightmare

How much money have you made as sell selling the sled was since Dean coral yeah 75 million Isn't that something selling them in Mumbai isn't that right? Yeah, they're just like hotcakes China hotcakes Are they using are they being used as torture racks? Do you think or I have found it useful to my Liberty to elect to not ask certain Questions oh good. Yeah, that reminds me the person who invented the droid We talked about on top for tuna fishermen now you can see what they're doing 5,000 dead bodies later Yeah Now Brooks upon initially walking in on Dean coral in the middle of one of these sessions

Turned around and left immediately stayed away for a day or two But having no place else to go Brooks returned to the house where Dean explained to him That he was just a part of a child pornography ring Oh, and that he had been paid to produce child pornography. Oh, it's a job. Yeah, I'm so sorry I judged you and then after that he just shipped him off to California Yeah, and they were going to the the child pornography ranch in the sky where they could run and play But it's some point we don't really know why but at some point Coral just best up and told Brooks that actually no he wasn't a part of a child pornography ring

He was actually just a murder just a plain old murderer. It's just but you know nefarious is are your actions if the excuse is It's just part of a child pedophile ring like in that's that's the cover-up line Well, he started with it, but it's how you it's how you grade it out He started by telling me he was a human trafficker Yeah, and then he was selling these guys in from other countries and he was helping them emigrate like that was one story Then it turned into child pornography then it turned to being like well, you know I am not as regal as all I've said before But now that but what's really interesting with with Brooks is that by now?

It's just he's just in too far right now It's like what he could do then is sort of being like it's he can relax his cover story and be like okay No, I can do this because now he can see he's ready to flip and he can use him to be his accomplice Yeah, and corals hold over Brooks it this his hold had to have been So powerful because the next time that coral struck was on December 13th 1970 and Brooks was right there alongside to help him Well, yeah, and the same thing as we said about Charles Manson and I'll say this too about Dean Coral I don't believe that anybody is a perfect puppeteer. I don't think anybody's a puppet master

I don't think anybody is that in like it inscrutable of a Sven golly, right? I think a lot of times these people already 50% of the way there they already have the impulses and you As a person who's been watching kids and profiling kids and grooming kids to be your victims for fucking 20 years Now look at someone being like I see the mirror image of myself I know that if I talk with this guy we can we can hook up It's kind of like meeting somebody that you're in a band with or in a sketch comedy group with where you meet Somebody like we you're equating getting murder fists together that you guys did in theater school in college with Dean Coral

Collecting boys to then murder other all collaboration. I see okay Which is a bit of a one-to-sketch comedy and sort of makes people laugh but you click but you click right? Yeah, now in addition to the emotional hold that Coral had over Brooks There was a financial aspect of the relationship as well Coral told Brooks that he would give him $200 for every boy that he could lure back to their apartment and Brooks took to the idea almost immediately Mm-hmm and besides just the money Brooks was also rewarded with the 1968 green Corvette on his 16th birthday Ensuring his loyalty for years to come right and also I mean when you mentioned David Brooks

He's in too deep It's similar to what people theorize about like bohemian grove and places like that once you see people make you know do Atrocities to another person or you know skull and bones then you're now implicated in it as well So what are you supposed to do you're an accessory to the crime? Oh, that's what he that's what he did with Wayne Hedley Wayne Hedley talks about that after we'll talk about that But he's basically said like Dean Coral is like well You're already accomplished a murder so well soon as I confess that the guys that you've been showing up with I've been murdering You're already done. You're already in so you might as well get your jollies with it

And you also know if you play along you probably won't end up on the torture rack Yeah, that's very sure looking at the torture rack. You're not gonna end up on the torture rack. Oh, that's looking probably that that's not guaranteed That's just probably and again these Houston cops are just like did you do it? And if David Brooks would go in and be like hey, I have to report a crime They'd like did you do it? He'd be like yes, and then they just arrest him. Oh, yeah, he's already done. Yeah It's roll locked in so the first murders that we know that Brooks participated in was that of James Glass and Danny Yates Glass had been to Dean's house before Hanging out and was actually a friend of David Brooks, so it wasn't any big deal to him

You know Brooks pulled up. He was like hey, we're hanging out of Dean's you want to come the two kids are like yeah Let's go and James and Danny would also be the first boys that Brooks would help Barry in Coral's infamous boat shed Dean had rented a dirt floor storage facility just a few months before this double murder And this storage facility was conveniently located less than a mile from where Dean worked, and this also again shows that the Impenetrable like lack of interest of someone who's getting paid four dollars an hour to work at the storage shed facility while Dean Coral's coming in now covered in sweat with shovels being like just making the storage shed deeper Just gotta make it deeper. You know sometimes you're just like I'm looking at this shed and it could be a fuck ton more deeper You know what I'm saying, you know the guy is just flipping a magazine not hearing anything

Yeah, he just flips a quarter on the way out and tells the guy to keep the change the guys like this technically is change Yeah, and it also kind of this is a weird thing about Dean Coral's that it was less than a mile from where he worked So he could dispose of bodies on his way to work He could just put one of the bodies in his van take it out there take care of a little quick errand Before going and testing relays for eight hours. Mm-hmm. So I gotta I gotta wake up 20 minutes early for work Tomorrow gonna dispose the body before I go in am I talking out loud? David oh, I gotta come clean to you So six weeks after that double murder Brooks and Coral lured another couple of kids 15 year old Donald Waldrop

And his 13 year old brother Jerry to the apartment where Brooks looked on as Dean strangled them both to death in a couple of months after that Brooks convinced another friend of his 15 year old Randall Harvey to let him and Dean give him a ride to work in Dean's white windowless a conaligned van now the van was a torture facility all in itself rings and hooks Retrooted from pegboard walls and when cops finally found and searched the van after Dean was killed they found binoculars a portable two-way radio and 15 feet of nylon rope and now my name is Dylan treagle and when I had originally designed the inside acrobat van I never expected to be turned

I am appalled at the turn of events that have happened with the sale the sales of some of these vans I did they were meant for for aerial acrobatics tricks inside of a van So people that are traveling across the country and our board how many of those did you sell the I have made upwards of 97 million dollars to sell on these vans across across the country And again, I am just I'm happy people are bringing acrobatics to the small town of America using the rings and hooks and binoculars Provided inside of these. Do you find it most frumpy mid-30s Texan men like to do acrobatics? Actually surprised because you'd look at some of these men and be like you look more of a molester Right in an acrobat, but again

I have found best in my interest of my liberty and also financial security to not ask certain questions about the nature of the use of my inside acrobatics Vans I'll take three Now after this boy Randall was secured in the van The two took him back to the apartment where Dean raped him tortured him and shot him in the head After which Coral and Brooks took the body to the dirt floor storage shed and buried him Now it's important to note at this point that Brooks maintains to this day that he did not actively participate in a

Single murder he says that his only roles in the murders was the capture or luring of the boys and In the disposal of the bodies isn't that the most important thing he brought the product? Yeah, it's the hardest shit, right? Yeah, so I feel like he is he's more dealer, right? Anyway, yeah, absolutely. I mean, I don't know if he's more guilty Dean Coral definitely did the hard part of it I don't know if you're a cattle rancher killing the cow and in butchering it and Making it edible for people or whatever. That's more difficult than serving it up to him on a burger We're starting to sound like the Bilderberg group talking about people like their cattle Of course Dean he was killing months before David came on board as his official assistant

Dean's presumed first victim was a University of Texas student by the name of Jeffrey Conan Who was picked up while hitchhiking on September 25th, 1970? I think that the disposal of Jeffrey Conan's body Suggests that Dean was an old hand at the murder game by the time Conan was killed when police found his body They discovered that it had been covered with a layer of lime and had been wrapped in plastic See nowadays you can pretty much say like oh he googled it Right, I'm certain there are like forums that would tell you how to dispose of a body. I'm honestly I've never researched it, but you can don't

Will be on a watch list. Yes, absolutely But he so he had to have had some experience he had to I mean it's very possible that he had killed a boy buried the body And the body was found but because Houston police don't investigate murders. He didn't get caught I just want to hear one hitchhiking store where it's like I thumb my way to San Francisco had a great time for a week And thumb my way back to Steven's Point, Wisconsin had a wonderful time No, there are people Has there been a good hitchhiking story man that look like us. Yeah, like we are the only people who also look like the people Who kill hitchhikers. Yes. Did you never read on the road full of great hitchhiking stories? Oh, he was he came from money

And they're all on Ben's a dream. Yeah So the other thing about Jeffrey Conan that suggests that this wasn't Dean's first kill was that he had been gagged with a piece Of cloth was tied hand and foot. He was naked and Strangled to death and knowing what we know about serial killers all signs point towards this being anything But Dean's first kill both in the process of it and in the disposal of the body Yeah, because it seems like he's pretty far along in his fantasy. Yeah at this point and so he knows what he wants yeah, and a lot of people think that Wayne Henley and David Brooks weren't his first assistants that these that he had been working with a couple of kids before that

Who hadn't quite worked out he murdered them and brought on a couple of new boys It's too hard That's a problem with being the young boy assistant to a man who murders young boys is that the turnaround. Yeah, it's through the roof Yeah Now after Randall Harvey Coral with the assistance of Brooks would commit another double murder their third and less than six months every Single one of these six boys lived in the same two and a half square mile neighborhood where Dean had set up shop The heights now to be fair to the parents who actually gave a shit about the kids who were going missing

Because not all the parents gave a fuck when their kids went missing a lot of them were like I'm gonna deal with that piece of shit anymore either their piece of shit or the straight-up of fact of like we did we barely had Enough money to raise this kid to which is even even more heart-breaking. Yeah, right? We like look at it and be like we were struggling when this when our son went missing we can easily accept the Idea that he ran away. He went to California and played in a jug band Yes, doing really well from what I can imagine you got picked up in the side of the road to go to work on some The fucking truck yard or doing something like working on an all rig He got some so and they and the only thing they can hope for is a letter a couple of months or a couple of years later

With five bucks in it saying hey, sorry. I had to leave. I've been working on an oil rig out in the Gulf for the last two years Yeah, here's what I can contribute But really these families they had a lot going against them first of all back to the Houston police department the missing persons Department didn't actually look for anyone their only purpose was to inform families if the police department Happened to come across the missing person in question either through arrest or through death So they just took that literally they were just like this is where the missing persons but not looking for them No, it was just we just identified missing person. Oh, that's just not there anymore. Yep No, it's a hat there or see some pants. I see some shoes. I don't see a man

He's not there. He's missing and second of course as we've been hammering home again and again Not just in this episode, but in the Ed Kemper episode in the Manson episode cops all over the country in the 60s and 70s They didn't look for runaways especially in poor areas because it was just generally assumed that if teenagers went missing They were they ran away to California or New York City or wherever and I will put this as a sort of Conspiratorial view of this is that I think that this is where there's a problem almost is that you could disappear back in the day Yes, you could just go live your life and not be entirely supervised and entirely Surveilled everywhere you went this is now this fear of these kind of crimes stuff like allowing Dean Corral's a murdered 29 boys Directly correlates to our surveillance period with his idea now being like now. No one can get away

Anonymously now you can no one can have a torture rack where they murder a bunch of teenagers in their shed by the school Henry is the mixture and they get you know It's the fine balance between security and freedom. Yes Say you have a reasonable police force then maybe these things don't happen Maybe if you have enough cops for when a family calls and says hey my kid is missing here are some clues Could you look for them? Yeah, because there were clues if cops would have actually looked into this Okay, Coral kept popping up in each one of these yeah And all these stories that he kept popping up and they could have easily put the pieces together long before this if only they

Would have had a reasonable police force because a reasonable police force is needed All right What you do is is that you start with a paltry police force and the never-ending complaints of the no police and not doing their job and then when you start rolling in tanks and Drones now we're like we got plenty of police now. We got so many police We're gonna fucking first you fell asleep in the train. We're checking your goddamn pockets. Oh, yeah There's a thought what we're saying is there is a happy medium a bit of a leap I have been known people have said that my opinions can be extreme

I do myself as more of an ultra realist Yeah, but I do wonder I do agree there is a slippery slope and over placing to certainly a problem right now in the country And it's not just over policing It's also, you know, you have something like Dean Coral that leads directly to the satanic panic, you know It leads to like you start getting this pedophile hysteria this missing child hysteria That's not like the hysteria over Lady Gaga. That's right. Nor is it like the death leopard album hysteria And then of course big milk started putting kids on cartons to sell products collect all the missing kids

Pokemon Well, another reason why these parents can't really be blamed is that while the heights was small it wasn't that small I'm not exactly sure of the population numbers of the heights in 1970, but currently the heights sits at about 15,000 people and these parents they didn't necessarily talk to each other and there of course back then there wasn't any internet to spread the word right right right and I'm gonna do the I'm doing the quick math as to how many how is how what percentages is 30 people out of 15,000 let's do quick math with Henry Zabrowski He's got his calculator. I mean, it's a but it's a 0.00

Percent and he doesn't know how to I don't know how to do it. He literally I don't even know if we're gonna keep this portion And I do want to clarify Henry does not know how to do quick math even on a calculator. Yeah, I mean I don't either Wow stunningly stupid Henry Zabrowski. Do you what's that you know how to find a percentage? I also didn't stop the show to do it. So I will say yes I do and I will not be proven wrong because I will not attempt to do it Let me just try this all right. Yeah, okay divided by 15,000 right? That's how you'd figure that out point zero zero two All right. Yeah, I just want to see a point all this none of this you have to hit a button

Oh, it's staying at good Lord. All right now the fourth reason as we said earlier There were no news makers in the Heights kids who went missing. They didn't show up on the 10 o'clock news They didn't show up on the front page of the paper. These kids were just gone and of course Dean Kroll knew this But the first kids who actually got some notice came next victims I think they're nine and ten David Hilla Geist and his neighbor Gregory Winkle went missing on May 29th 1971 and the Hilla Geist family pulled out as many stops as a poor family in the Heights could afford after receiving no help from the cops the Hilla Geist hired a private investigator to search for their son the only lead that the PI came Up with is that the kids might have been abducted by a pimp named chicken Joe who operated out of Dallas

But of course that tip didn't pan out at all, but this is Yet another injustice in this story when the cops who refused to help the Hilla Geist family Found out about the help they were receiving from the PI They opened an investigation into the PI's credentials Hold the PI into court for an expired license and spent thousands of dollars Prosecuting him instead of spending a single cent a single second looking for David Hilla Geist I'm gonna say the PI probably already knew he was going to suggest that chicken Joe stole the kid I'll just say chicken Joe stolen again and collect my paycheck

Well chicken Joe is also the chicken is a prison term for a pedophile. Yeah, exactly Now the PI did actually put in quite a bit of time and even when the Hilla Geist ran out of money He still did work for which is really very sad and the Hilla Geist family the story of the Hilla Geist family and the man with The candy is incredible. It's brutally sad. It ruined their whole lives. They spent all of their money on the PI Then they started getting into psychics that were taking them back and forth like saying like seeing stuff like I see him staring out of a window somewhere in San Antonio and then would go to San Antonio and look for him for days and then it's all of That they were just dragged around these poor poor people. It's bologna. It's those psychics I really do despise those people who prey on wounded souls

I think it was I think they went to six different psychics and of course each psychic charges them a little bit of money Just immediately if you meet a psychic say how many Skittles do I have in my pocket? Always have seven if they answer any other number than seven. They're not a good psychic No, it was really and this is what we're talking about when we say if the Houston PD would have investigated this at all Coral would have started coming up the Hilla Geist in In hindsight, they did think about Dean Coral. Their son was one of the dozens of kids who had regularly Visited the candy factory in the mid-60s But Dean's parents when their son was hanging out there rather than being concerned that their son was hanging around with this strange older guy

They were more concerned that the boy might just be bothering a man who was trying to go about his business Which I know I this was exactly how my childhood was Yeah, it was used to be on the child. Yeah, right? Of course. Yeah, that was who we were talking about with teachers There was a thing I was reading some article somewhere about how like you know teachers get blamed for their kids failing in school Nowadays where it used to be like I used to get very much so punished if I fucked up. Yeah, of course Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and I used to have that all the time You know I grew up in a small town where your parents who just got in the summertime They just let you go into the town. Just like yep go out fuck around

Don't bother me for eight hours be back here by 3 p.m. And it's another case where I think we have to come back to a middle ground Yeah, and that's what what happened is that you know, you just would go to you just swing by a Barn you'd swing by like a mechanic shop, and you just kind of like hey mister. How you doing? What's going on? Really they'd but they'd be like, you know that you're breaking up the monotony of a 10-hour Workday so the guy's like I come over here a little more every little fart, and then they weird times Yeah, and Marcus's childhood the 90s Yeah, it was a strange decade. There's no doubt about that. It was a super strange decade But the other run-in that David Hillergeist had with Dean Coral was a few years after

You know he had been hanging out at the candy factory She found him again playing pool there, and she told Dean listen I would appreciate it if you didn't let my son hang around here anymore But Dean he alleviated alleviated her fears by saying like hey your neighbor Jerry Winkle She works here part-time her son Gregory He works here too and Gregory would be the boy that was killed alongside David Hillergeist on May 29th, and he would also be the first of two Former candy factory employees to die at the hands of Dean Coral and in a desperate attempt to find their son

The Hillergeist family canvassed Houston with posters bearing David's name and picture the whole neighborhood pitched in but none More than one of David Hillergeist's oldest friends Elmer Wayne Henley, Jr. And while Wayne Henley at the time had no idea who killed his friend within six months of that disappearance Wayne Henley would become Dean Coral's second accomplice and 18 more murders over the course of less than a year Technically Dean Coral is a job creator. I guess so I guess it's just interns We have an intern Travis would kill for us. He would not kill for us and nor will we request him to Good god. Is that the episode for today? That's it for today. Wow. What a story next episode

We're gonna come back with with Wayne Henley And we're gonna get to where it really ramps up. Oh, yeah I'd like and we're gonna do some Talking about what it really means to be a sexual sadist and where that shit comes from that horrible horrible shit that makes you a Monster that should be buried in a concrete square 20 feet underground if you are If you do work in law enforcement if you do work in law enforcement Go knock on the Shed's door if it's by a school Knock on it see if it's the janitor's house go to a candy shop

Honestly sniff around smash a couple of things with a baton and be like just checking up Just trying to see just want to make sure nothing bad's going on here You got nothing going on in the praline Soon as I'm taking through hands of the player and then take a handful and eat them in front of them being like I can come back Anytime I want come back search scale scare, right candy people Everybody I know a police officer. That's it. If you see a candy shop go in there and be like, I know what you did That's who we should be stopping him friskin candy shop candy shop owners. I agree All right, good. Well, I think we're solving problems here. Very nice. Thanks so much for listening

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