Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 219: Aum Shinrikyo Part II - The Bitter Cookie

Episode Date: April 7, 2016

The Aum series continues with the blossoming of the cult as they move into full-on warfare mode with the development of their very first biolab and their first two thankfully unsuccessful terror attacks.

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That's not excited Are we to go we are all right welcome to the show. I'm Ben kissel. This is the last podcast on the left I'm Ben kissel. That's Marcus Parks. Hi. Oh, I thought I was on nerd of mouth Why would you think that Batman versus Superman made me upset? All right, well, it's like a plug in all the other shows I Thought Batman versus Superman was excellent. It was terrible. You're a contrarian Yeah, there's a lot of explosion. You're just saying that because it made me upset. No, you guys were just sober You didn't watch it, right? That's actually that's actually very your bone sober

We had a nice man's date out. Oh America if you could have seen it It was me Marcus and kissel and more great. We had a great time And but Marcus and I had a lovely date where we got hamburgers with each other They did not serve alcohol at them at the restaurant and so when we arrived to the movie we were sober like two good boys Yeah, I brought in some whiskey like you're supposed to I knew the movie was gonna be garbage and I was impressed It was great. It's like your dad's suppin on a flask watching you wrestle Yeah, kind of good if you're drunk. He's really kind of good if you think about it intoxicated, but you were a good wrestler I was pretty good. I got third in state my senior year division three. All right speaking of good wrestlers and strong strong thies

I'm a son rickio Shin rickio part two So the first episode we went to the beginnings of ohm shin rickio and how they started relatively Innocently it was it was still a scam from the very beginning But there were a lot of people in Japan at the time they were looking for some sort of religious beliefs some sort of connection There are people like looking because the M the empire had fallen People were kind of lost and dealing with shit very similar into the 1960s in America Which is the places where we see where Scientology came from where the Jones town family came from and that that whole universe

So what we're gonna see in this episode is how ohm shin rickio makes the turn like how Jonestown when they move from San Francisco to South America and things got a little bit more fucking serious and a little bit more dangerous This is when I'm shin rickio went from yata. We are with members of the spaceship Yamato to A cobra commander ruling cobra versus gij. Yeah. Yeah, these guys turned into full cartoon supervillains So I say and I use I actually when you look at like say the Nazis like the Nazis were supervillains But you know, they they invented the supervillain like before the Nazis uniforms and there was other villains before the Nazis But not supervillains. We did not see it's kind of a compliment Yeah, I don't get it. He did it with flair. Yeah, he did it with style. He did it with like you go boss

Yes, you go boss. Yeah, they absolutely did that but ohm shin rickio They were like a copy of supervillains like they were actually like you could argue that ohm shin rickio is the most magical cult that there was they actually that I mean they are the definition of What is it perception plus ritual equals reality? Yes, these guys took fiction and they made it real It is the thing that that us a hero would talk about and they've talked about afterwards called action prophecy Which is this thing where it's like he builds up this idea of we're we are the the cult that is going to live through Armageddon Armageddon is definitely gonna happen. It's definitely happening. The reason why it's definitely gonna happen is because I'm going to make it happen But what they didn't count on was Ben Affleck's Batman

Because he would have frowned his way until they stopped It was been disappointed by how upset he was all the time It was but this is a very interesting turn and what I think of the first one. It's just it's really hard to Get the message across that they were incredibly dangerous I mean they committed a terrorist act and when also the big difference between ohm shin rickio and the Nazis is that when the Nazis were Doing the the final solution and they were killing the Jews It was to hurt the Jews and purify their their race. I'm shin rickio got to believe that when we kill people We not only do them good, but we do us good

Everybody's getting points. Everybody's getting soul points and that makes an incredibly dangerous combination with biochemical Weapons and literally a billion dollars at your disposal. Oh, yeah, absolutely and let's start in 1989 speaking of how dangerous these people are like they very much they started off small much like a lot of serial killers They start off small with an accidental death or rabbits Yeah, and then they really ramp up how dangerous they are. Let's start in 1989 with the tragedy of Tsutsumi Sakamoto now ohm shin rickio's membership wasn't just limited to nerdy adult computer programmers looking for an escape Remember they got their start in Twilight Zone magazine

So they're gonna attract a lot of teenagers as well And the thing is that it seems like Japanese families do a lot of shit as a group and as like a family They all show up with like mom dad baby brother and baby sister all in one go like a healthy family Like how families are supposed to be but no it seems like everybody kind of jumps in head first Which is their enthusiasm is both inspiring and also as we could see very dangerous Don't be yeah, don't be enthusiastic about anything. No, that's not true That's what I say. Yeah always leads to a suicide cult. No, it doesn't what was the last thing you were enthusiastic about the turned out Well, this show this last

You're not enthusiastic. That's not true Marcus is not enthusiastic. Oh, I'm not he's you're often stressed about it Not anymore right now. I'm quite happy and content with life. We all taking Jackie's stress tabs Aren't those just Clonopants, okay. No, you know, I'm very enthusiastic the show, you know, and the love is still real Kissel. Yeah, okay fine I'm not saying the love isn't real. I'm saying enthusiasm leads to cult activity. Well, maybe We'll see how this whole last podcast thing shakes out So by 1989 23 families had formed a coalition led by a young anti cult lawyer and

Family man named Tsutsumi Sakamoto who is tasked with releasing the compounds miners from Asahara's clutches Also a part of what he was doing was taking vials of Asahara's blood because at the time Asahara was using the the Validation of the I'm a special creature. My DNA is special That is why I am the most enlightened one and why it happened to me quicker than it did the original Buddha And so he took the blood and he was like I'm going to take it to a doctor And I'm going to break down the DNA in this blood so people could see that he's just a guy Well, the other thing about the blood is that the Japanese actually have an odd Superstition about blood type is that they believe that you can predict certain

characteristics and certain mannerisms as far as blood type goes and Om Shinrikyo, they used to say that those with O blood type would be more likely to break Buddhist laws So therefore they didn't trust people with O blood type. It's very bizarre. Mr. Shaka moto I can see here by your blood test that you are supposed to have small feet and be obedient just like the rest of us Man, I must have red blood, huh? So the families had turned to Sakamoto after getting no help whatsoever from the police Who said the matter was between parent and child so to light a little fire under Om Shinrikyo? Sakamoto started bad-mouthing them on local radio the feet smell

The feet smell they got bad food and they got no swing set. I go out in the playground where the children are supposed to be And there's no swing set. I don't know. I don't think that's a full Asian accent Toe and I'm not trying to do it all the time. All right, I can do different voices And you know what if there's one thing that got Om's attention every single time it was bad press So Asahara gathered his inner circle and said we must send counsellor Sakamoto soul away by any means So Asahara raised his hand snapped his finger and left his men to deal with Sakamoto as they saw fit Man if only we had that yeah, we would get so much more stuff done if we could make like Meg go kill people. I Guess so take Travis like go Poe his soul young Travis

Oh young sapien is too busy learning how to read with his hand eyes I think we would get less done if we sent everyone to go murder people as opposed to do research for the show No, no, no, no, no, no, it's about making connections and it's stepping over body Yeah, that's how you make it this business. Okay, so the team that that So the team that Asahara sent included Hideo morai Om's chief scientist So Toro has a motto the cult's martial arts expert and Dr. Tomomasa Nakagawa a physician who had joined the cult just two months prior and this really tells you the power of Shoko Asahara the charm that this guy had and I mean and he could charm anybody shoko actually went on a

TV like a national Japanese talk show That was hosted by like this very respected very hard-nosed like journalist slash Stand-up comedian slash actor and he was a which is very strange to say a serious combination of those three things Yeah, and but he was in Japan. Yeah, he was a very serious individual He was taken very seriously and he was known to ask the hard questions He was known to take no shit and Asahara went in had him in the palm of his hand in 15 minutes He just seems like when you look at him the thing is on paper and looking at a picture of Asahara

He is what you imagine a guru to look like But what he taught was this thing what he was trying to get everyone to attain was this thing called a sacred carefree mind Which is this idea? It meant carrying nothing if you harm me or if I harm you which is this concept that like literally It's like he's teaching them being like no you will jump and kill because it's a part of your mystical purpose We're poeing these people when I say go poa somebody that means we're sending them to heaven. It's good It's all good. And so these guys just jump right in yeah So at 3 a.m. The trio entered Sakamoto's apartment to find him sleeping in his bed with his wife

While their one-year-old son slept one room over and in their possession were ropes Hammers a club and seven syringes full of potassium chloride and that's also because they fucked up They were supposed to show up when he was alone They were supposed to get him alone and not kill the whole family I thought it was because they were going to really play the game of clue. Yeah In real life, that's exciting. Just where's the candlestick shakamoto? I love the candlestick So actually what they were supposed to do is they were supposed to kidnap Sakamoto outside of his office, but they didn't plan it up because that day was actually a national holiday

So he didn't show up. Oh, yeah, exactly. I was taking a break. Yeah. Yeah, everybody's taking a people in other countries Take holidays really seriously just an America that we're forced to fucking work through Christmas Most of the time I will say if you're gonna kidnap somebody and based around the location of where they work Go in when they're entering the building because they're sloggy. Yeah slow They don't want to go to work. Have you ever seen people when they get out of work? They're they're like happy mice They move so fast even if they're fat Walking into the office. I was mostly begging for death. Yes. Take me now. Absolutely. Oh, you're gonna kidnap me. I'll go I don't even have to god. Yeah, of course. I'll go instead of bag to put me in this old navy bag

Just put it over my head. There's something come on. We got to convince my boss. So this is fucking legit And they're like it is legit Yeah, but on the way home, you're just like leave me alone, you know So while they're in the house one of the cultists presumably the scientist or the physician Woke up the baby with his clumsy movements. The martial arts expert isn't fucking this up. No, he knows what he's doing No, yeah, because he's got the two balls in his hands that make the jingle jangle noises because he's not allowed to step And move anymore once you become an expert unless you can do that without making the Oh my god, yeah

So awoken by the baby's cries Sakamoto walked into his son's room to find one ome cultist Suffocating the infant with a rag while injecting him with the syringe The other two wrestled Sakamoto to the ground and tried to inject him as well But when that proved too difficult the baby killer crushed Sakamoto's skull with a hammer and his wife met the same fate So the bodies were bundled up in blankets dumped into metal drums, which the Japanese seemed to have a thing for I think they have a lot of metal drums just hanging around Yeah And disposed of the three bodies in three different prefectures

But not before they yanked out the victim's teeth to prevent easy Identification and even though a badge from ome shinrikyo was found at the scene cops Still refused to investigate the cult now while we don't have time to cover Just how many times the police either ignored or botched investigations concerning ome shinrikyo Just know that with almost every illegal thing ome did from murder to manufacturing chemical weapons To massive drug deals with the akusa Japanese authorities had very clear paths to investigating and possibly Prosecuting these crimes, but failed to do so for years

And now the part of the reason why is because they have a sort of attitude towards religious groups Right where it's like they literally have a hands-off approach where they kind of let these these people do what they're going to do Yeah, because they don't really understand their ways a lot of the time and they don't want to upset anybody Well, they don't want to be uh, they don't want to be accused of religious persecution It happens all look at warren jeffson utah. Yeah, you know that cult went on for decades And he was having sex with all the children. Well, yeah, because technically the everybody just assumed Oh, but that's what they do in Mormonism. They fuck their kids and they have nine wives And like there's a lot of normal Mormons that we're trying to be like no no we wear spiritual diapers

That's our shit. I love the Mormon diaper by the way. It's a great idea Keep ya warm What are you talking about? They just wear extra underwear just fucking skid marked fucking just sweat written fucking rags Griven you by jesus christ. They don't even drink coffee. There's no skid marks. Anyway, it's a different episode But now we're also going to so in this period time too right after these murders So now in 19 in 1988 they've been murdering a lot of people that have been trying to speak out or leave the cult They pull with them every single time that they would try to leave you would do that You try to get rid of the drop karma

We would use whatever but in 1989 they ran for election Right and so when they lost everything they ran 25 members for the diet or whatever however we pronounce that for the Japanese government And they lost the whole thing and this caused osa. How are to kind of flip out? Yeah, it caused them to flip out especially because you know, they went door to door. They campaign They used the big paper mache heads. Yeah, the big paper mache heads they use these cult members to go door to door they used them as door knockers and And since they fight after they finally got out of the compound and were no longer in this siege mentality this cult mentality A lot of cult members left. They were like, they were like, oh, shit. Oh the real world exists

Pretty girls out that don't wear electrode caps exist So a lot of them actually left and that was really that was one of the very few snags that ohm shinrikyo had He bounced back from that pretty quick But the way he bounced back from that was literally becoming cobra command That's when he started realizing like, oh, we got to take this shit to the next level Because my normal Armageddon shit is not really reading anymore. I need results Yeah, canvassing for local politics doors getting slammed in your face constantly And then you see the outside world to boot. Of course, you're gonna leave. Yeah, I would never canvass

It's I canvassed for John Kerry. It was a goddamn nightmare Good Lord. Yeah, because people were like, no, no have my children And I'm like, I'm just trying to get you to vote for the democrat. Okay. I got it now. I'm just walking with a bunch of Eight kids being like, so you're our giant daddy now. Yes Now as often happens in cults as soon as the murder starts so too does the paranoia Why do you think that is, Mark? Well, I mean you see that with ohm shinrikyo you talk about like how uh the elections failed and so he had to ratchet it up Uh in order to keep people there. It's a lot like Charles Manson

You know how when he decided he wanted to go out to death valley In order to get these women from like leaving and not going with him to death valley He had to say the race war is coming. Yeah, and then also promise dune buckies And then he delivered. He delivered on dude. Typically the only thing he delivered on And although some cults explode very quickly after the cult's first murders such as what happened with Manson and jones town Shoko Asahara was able to channel that paranoid energy into what essentially became a war machine And as the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. Thank you Marcus. Very nice Ohm began their weapons program with the development of one of the deadliest substances on earth

Clostridium botulinum the bacteria that causes the deadly disease botulism No, I thought botulism was just one of those shit diseases where you shit yourself to death in extremely small cases Very very very small But botulism even botulism in uh food poisoning can be fatal. It turns the inside out Yeah, it'll turn the inside out You just sound like a man like looking at a myth like a an old Chevy just like sucking out of a beer just like Or turn the inside out Yeah, that's you sounded like Ed Gein there

He's a great way of speaking whatever you're kind of like you're kind of joking, but you're also speaking from experience But I didn't really it wasn't really sure if you're joking or not. They're like, oh, man. Yeah So botulinus toxin in its pure form is 16 million times more toxic than strict nine with the only substance topping it in toxicity Being plutonium to give some perspective a lethal dose for a human being Can be as small as one five hundredth the size of a grain of sugar Botulinus the way it works is that it blocks transmissions to your brain That regulate the involuntary nervous system shutting down the lungs and the heart Which is preceded by up to 36 hours of severe vomiting in diarrhea

Yikes good for weight loss. It just seems like a thing that happens on a lot of greyhound buses Oh, you get a lot of the first 36 hours on a greyhound bus What I also find interesting about his reach into biochemical weapons is that he Believed they were the tech savvy cult. He loved technology That was a part of where the anime shit that came from the very beginning because I was trying to be like Why is he obsessed with chemical weapons? And it's because it made him that much more superior He was trying to prove that I can bend the power of the I can mend the power of the spirit with the power of technology And truly make al machinerico the cult that lasts through armageddon

They will make them shit and piss themselves And vomit for 36 hours and he also got really into william gibson He got real like they got ahold of a copy of neuromancer and whoo. There's just certain things that are just Just dangerous in certain people. This is why you need bullies and football players. He was the bully Yeah, he was nobody was a nerd who needed to be bullied by a football player No, he learned the ways of the nerd he learned. How do you hone the power of the nerd? I'm just saying if tom ready walked in that door everyone would have been sucking his nub and this guy's out of there That's different because he also would have been a foot taller than everybody and they would have been assumed

He was a spiritual giant from one of their fabled mountains. That's true But no he come with asahara literally it's like the nazis again where the nazis what we talked about how like It's like the nerd power gone Go go fucking a muck is what he did it was a bully that managed to harness just the sheer horsepower of nerds He's like he's got their brains on hamster wheels and they're and they're fucking working a giant flute and starships So if he had his way would be like that has 60 nerd power. Yeah, that's a wonderful car 60 nerd power And the last people in the world you want highly motivated. I agree is the Japanese. I think you're gonna say nerds Japanese nerds the Japanese are is the only country in the world that actually recognizes a disease that is death by overwork

Like that you do not want the Japanese on a mission. I love sushi Take me. I just want to go to japan. I still feel like if I go to tokyo, that's where I would belong That's where you would rule like a king Ha ha ha ha ha Short fat tiny man It says here in scroll will come and be the one that was supposed to unite all of japan But all of japan is already united chakamoto. Yes, it is most interesting how the fable seems to already have been true But it will be more true by this young zebrowski song

I think that's the the plot line for beaverly hills ninja I'm pretty sure So by april of 1990 ohm had a fully functioning bio lab Attempting to produce mass quantities of weaponized botulinus toxin and while we know the ome shinrikyo cult for their somewhat successful sarin attack in 1995 That was by no means their first attempt. It was pretty successful I'm gonna say it was it was did its job. I say somewhat successful because it fell far short of projections Well, yeah, it was supposed to kill a million people. Yeah, didn't even come close. No, it killed 11

I would say it's a total failure. It's so bad. It's so bad It's still bad, but by japanese standards. I know they are they get it's like a b b minus Yeah, if those yeah, it's a b minus. That's an i think it's a d if you're going for a million. What do they kill 11 11? That's not even on the chart That's an f if those guys wouldn't have been arrested and sentenced to death They would have been heading towards the suicide force. I guess i guarantee I guess i'm just being most generous because i'm the future emperor of japan. Yeah, that's very nice of you So ohm's very first terror plan was to contaminate an area by fitting a special spraying device to the exhaust of a car

Which is a technique that the cia Actually used to test toxic weapons on new yorkers in the 1950s and lsd That was a part of the sea if we could generate a cute little freak out in the middle of a major city because we're the cia in the 1950s And we just don't give a shit about human life. Yeah, exactly this idea is just terrible when it comes to the acid in the car We're just getting followed by a bunch of hippies. I gotta say man I think we may have put that muffler in backwards because you are looking like a talking tomato vine. Very good This car would be driven around and around japan's capital Capital building spraying it with botulinus toxin and killing hundreds in the process

And completely destabilizing the japanese government and the world's economy in one fell swoop And in asahara's mind the next next logical move for japan would be to blame america start world war three And haru mcgeddon would kick in a high gear with asahara and ohm being the last group standing He never he oh, he always shot for the moon. Yeah, he knew that if he missed he'd land amongst the stars That's right, right, and you really can't say anything other than like fuck. Yeah. I mean like what's you say? We gotta do you start world war three. All right, let's do that. This is how we're doing it. Let's do it You know and then the next thing is like i'm going to invent this thing. It's called a Miley Cyrus and oh does it most show its pubic hair young sapien you will see

So thankfully both this and their second attempt which was directed at the prince of japan's royal wedding Both failed because ohm scientists couldn't figure out how to properly weaponize botulinus see weaponizing Biological weapons and chemical weapons are two very different things. They're very difficult We were talking about is that it's also a big thing a marker spread of which is very interesting We were talking the phone while I was in the supermarket. It's how difficult it is to create biological weaponized Weaponized biological weapons is because they're better in wet form than dry form And it's harder to spread the wet form on a bunch of people without them realizing

They're getting sprayed with a fucking hose filled with botulism open up a bagel place Let me hear it. Yeah, and of course the wet stuff doesn't travel on the wind as well It's not a renegade who likes bob seager Yeah, it's not a drifter Just like i was looking for that one good turn in his life Yeah, but one important thing to remember during all of this as far as them developing the biological weapons The scientists working day and night. They were not biologists. They were not chemists. Well, there certainly were physicians on staff These people were mostly engineers and computer scientists and this you brought up a really great point here

Which is awesome. Which is this is how smart the people were that he Brought into a home shriekio because these literally these biologists and they were biologists. They were engineers Yeah, these engineers taught themselves how to make chemical weapons. They taught themselves how to do it Yeah, and like a couple year with a little bit of help from the russians that we'll get into later But for the most part is that these people were extremely motivated and they taught themselves Chemistry they taught themselves biology incredibly difficult I had teachers try years to teach me any form of science. Yeah, but the teachers knew but no but barely It was a florida public school. They didn't know what they were doing a lot for them to do

Yeah, but they were just reading out of a textbook that was written by the trilateral commission in order to make me a Fucking slave to Bell's systems. Did it work? Yes I still the hairs raised on the back of my neck every time the tone on the train comes and I only blame high school every single time Now this here is the difference between Omsh and Rikio and say heavens gate now while both were obsessed with science fiction heavens gate focused mostly on the utopian Model of science fiction in Star Trek with a little bit more suicide tossed in there Yeah, get there an ohm was staunchly dystopian with asimov's found the foundation So while heavens gate peacefully killed themselves trying to hitch a ride on a star to explore the cosmos

Ohm supreme truth attempted to bring about the end of the world so they could rule over the ashes It's a little bit of this a little bit of that a little bit of this a little bit of that it takes a village I mean from a cultist perspective. I'd rather be part of omsh and rikio No, because I'm gonna put this way kissle I have one thing I know about you is that it is very difficult to get you to do work that you volunteered for Never mind work that then you'd be forced to do by a stinky man in a robe You you hungry number one you hungry no sleep walking around no booze You can't touch any of the women the booze. I don't like other than that. I work very very hard. No, I'm just saying

Yeah, he works very hard. It's just impossible to get him to believe in anything exactly That's he probably really you'd really have to believe in the the goals of no I'm not I don't have to believe in what this fat nerd is saying. I'm just saying this is the problem But I but I don't mind the idea of hey, let's try to get world war three going as opposed to let's wear some crappy Nike shoes you bought from pay less and kill ourselves See well what these two cults share is that they were both filled with people that thought they were Way too smart for organized religion, but we're still looking for answers and still looking for somebody to tell them what to do I mean, these are like those assholes on the internet. It's like well

Christianity how dare you follow Christianity? That is what Idiots follow and then they will take their entire belief system from an anime You know they'll model their entire lives off of a comic book like they'll say I don't worship god I worship batman. No, it's very interesting. They also said it's a lot of people that they said a lot of members of the lowest the lower form the drone class of omshin rikio were people that were very antagonistic towards society They were like punks and so the idea is they don't compare them to punks, but they're like internet trolls yes, but they were like internet trolls, but the idea is that they got pulled into there and uh, they But the same time it's this fucked up thing is that they just need to just stern enough daddy

They just didn't have a stern enough daddy And then they show up to this group where osahara is going to be the stern daddy You never had to the point where he'll fucking kill you if you don't want to be a clone of his brain That's another thing to remember about omshin rikio at the center of this cult is the concept that osahara was trying to create An army of him that is why he believed in self-preservation and then literally preservation of the cult and moving forward He wanted to live through armageddon. He wanted to create it and then live through armageddon so fully That it did only to the point of being like i'm literally going to create a million copies of myself And if you were anything less than a perfect copy of me, I kill you well

The other thing uh as far as the daddy thing goes is that a lot of these people in japan, especially during this period during this financial boom Uh fathers just weren't around they were working constantly. They were at they really were like they were Just give your fathers a break They were working 12 15 hours a day So these kids they never saw the their father and they were looking for a father and they found that in shoko osahara So by 1991 the cult had gone from just a few nerds hanging out in osahara's studio apartment to a membership of seven Thousand in japan alone chiefly due to osahara's Impressive propaganda machine now their editorial department published osahara's lectures a monthly cult magazine

in the crown jewel of their efforts manga and anime Starring shoko osahara as the main character and most of the content of these Animates because I was looking it up as much like I was trying to find a copy of one of the anime And I couldn't find it No, I found the cartoon stuff, but I couldn't find the mangas and I was going through but a lot of the content I kept reading it said it's literally people begging osahara to kill them and he's like, uh, you're not enough like me yet And it's so like it's all it's very strange just happily being like kill me osahara So with so many people in the organization osahara declared that after reading the entire bible cover to cover

He realized that he was not just the loving all-knowing guru He was also the second coming of jesus christ saying the similarities between himself and jesus Were just too numerous to ignore Is this a cry for help marcus? Are you going to change by the time you're done reading all of the bible for the patreon account? Yeah, but he's not going to choose jesus. He's going to be like some off character Was mentioned eight times. I'm heraclitus the god of dawn when was you mentioned? Hello, you may now call me as modus

Actually like that. I like that person. I like as modus as well But the compounds, you know, but he's saying that he's this christlike figure that he's here to save everybody But the compounds themselves which were not starting to number in the hundreds nearing a thousand as big a hell holes as ever Well, he was cutting overhead Yeah, he was way cutting overhead because the main compound outside of tokyo has hundreds of people Living in structures that one person described as a cross between a canning factory and a concentration camp I love getting right in there right in between a canning. That is Nice

And as the compound grew so did the cruelty Cultists were now required to undergo a ritual called the holy fire service In which they were forced to eat whatever the priest felt like feeding them that day It could be anything from two entire Raw cabbages to a dozen Tangerines all force fed in one sitting and if the cult member wasn't able to hold the massive amount of food down They would be forced to eat their own vines. Not that much. Is it bad that I have a full on erection? Yeah, okay Yeah, I mean that I certainly don't have one

It's kind of exciting though. You never know what you're gonna get. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah every day is a new day It's like chopped. It is like chopped. What's in the basket? Another odd culinary addition was that of the bitter cookie No one knew what was actually in it But what they did know that rather than being baked in a kitchen the bitter cookie was made by scientists in the same lab They were using to experiment with botulism Some societies would call this bitter cookie a bit of an a oaky cookie. It's an oaky cookie But uh, it seems that young asahara here has lost the game of bitter cookie and must be forced to eat it

I like it. Oh, I seem to really enjoy this bitter cookie. I'm sure I love it when I lose a lot of people used to play that oaky cookie game the last one to ejaculate I had to eat the cookie and I'm sure there was uh in every group of friends There was one kid who was just you know secrets low on purpose. Yeah, exactly Yeah, he was waiting for the yodel part So as bad as the conditions and the adults were living in the conditions that the children were living in were absolutely horrific At the compound's height some 100 children lived separated from their parents sick malnourished and in some cases Feral they had terrible rashes many had fingernails missing and most had asthma to some degree all signs of malnourishment

And wretched care not only were they living in substandard conditions, but they had their own little tyrant to deal with They gave them the baby tyrant, which is kind of fun. Yeah, it's real fun. Yeah. Yeah, asahara's third daughter Reiko she was seen as the heir apparent to the throne and would regularly Experiment on children once burning a child with three different kinds of acid just to see what would happen like a real scientist I think it's cuz she liked him technically that is where most japanese science came from is just being like I wonder if it will burn all the way to the skull Or hopefully in most glorious cases all the way down to the feet It seems like that's where all science and medicine came from. No, that's not where all science medicine came from at all

Yeah, so they're trying to mangala and unit 731 science came from isn't that where all of it came from Some good stuff technically came from it But it's hard to connect it back without screaming operation paperclip over and over again while wearing a suit made out of paper bags So while all of this sounds absolutely insane It is a mistake to think of ohm as just a loose collection of malnourished idiots walking around with electrode infested showercaps Shocking themselves every few minutes. That's definitely part of it. That's definitely a part of it. I mean that's just more of the style of the time They would also do this thing called prostrations They would also put them through physical labor right and they would do sort of like calisthenics

prostrations was this thing sort of like What is it a sun salutation? But instead of like you slowly lowering yourself down and then lowering them then bring yourself back up It's slamming face first into the ground popping back up to your feet and you'd make them do that A hundred thousand times a day God that's impossible and then if they didn't make it but this is the thing They would start realizing they would get into these modes of thought of them of the guru asks me to do a thing that is essentially an Impossible task my hesitation my questioning of it being an impossible task shows that I don't have enough faith and deserve to be punished

And it's it's it's part of this mystical thing of sometimes a guru will say something really confusing Because he's so enlightened. He's moved into a state of pure confusion That is true. Yeah, which is also a but it's also a very like Confucius thing Yes, uh, where they will say something like what does the sound of one hand clapping and then you and but it's like That's what no one understood that one. I finally figured it out. It's pretty good. One hand clapping is jerking off Yeah, like the entire religion. Yeah, you just may be the Buddha of last podcast I'm gonna start gaining some weight So although yes, there were hundreds of ohm chin reek yo shower cap idiots

But by the early 90s Shoko Asahara had already begun infiltrating the police as well as almost every government agency Ohm also had reporters editors and even a program director at nhk the national broadcaster of japan in their ranks in addition to experts in the fields of engineering communication and computing Yeah, but we can all say the program director. We know them bunch of losers. I was program director I mean no one's like we've got we've got program director marcus parks in our cult We're guaranteed to take over the world now. Yeah program director is an extremely important job. You decide what goes on the radio That is the truth. You're the gatekeeper, Ben

Technically what you do then is you make them feel really important too. That's what you gotta do That's a part of your job as the cult kind of liaison A person in charge of what goes on the radio. I am just very program directors are often mocked behind their backs Okay, so by the end of 1994 and you'll see 94 Big year for ome shinrikyo and green day And weezer as well a lot of good stuff came out of 1994 not necessarily ome shinrikyo But by 1994 the end of it the cult

Even had in addition to all these other people in so many different professions so many different branches of government They also had nearly 40 active members of japan's military Plus dozens of veterans among their ranks because they started seeing more other like once they see their buddies joining ome shinrikyo And also a part of their their propaganda way They got people in it using the sexy girls using different shit We're just going to go into really soon. They were fucking wrapped up in it They just kind of show up me like okay I'm in for the cause and then all of a sudden they're doing fucking

100,000 flop downs a day and wondering why they're covered in gel all the time But then by then you feel too stupid to back out Yeah, and so you're asking how exactly did they recruit all these high-powered individuals like henry said the answer is simple say They were snapping proceeds over there Now in the early days osahara's teachings were extremely pro-sex He supported the act as a means of reaching enlightenment and got quite detailed with it in his book The secret to developing supernatural power which we will get into now

Now my thing is is that I but at some point I do believe if I had not discovered masturbation I think I would have been president You know what I mean? Where I was a very smart driven child and then something happened when I found masturbation And you know in the old like when teenagers become sullen and and disclosed away from their parents It's been like they always do that. Yeah, because now your whole life is masturbated. Yeah Yeah, yeah, you're sullen and disclos and you know they're sullen and closed up because all you're thinking about Is booby's slapping against her face? You think about when's the next time I'm gonna get to jerk off?

And I can't jerk off around my parents. Why do I want to be around these assholes? I think they won't let me jerk off in front of them. That's what being a teenager is Crawling towards the next orgasm All right So what osahara's sex enlightenment path was It's a little involved. Yeah, it's a little involved, but let's get into it first Just masturbate daily for 10 days check but do not ejaculate. What never ejaculate I'm just saying that's not masturbation

It's stroking. It's stroking. I just don't think it's masturbation. You'll be stroking That's what it that's what you should have called the book. You got to be stroking. You got to be stroking Yeah, and then after you do that for 10 days start masturbating twice a day Never ejaculate. What do that for a week? Then do it four times a day For a week then five And then on the sixth week when you are masturbating six times a day without Blowing a load. That's when it's time to find a hot day. Now. What does he mean? Do you come but don't count you? You just hit it a couple of times you call you call it a masturbation and you end the process

Because I can get hard just by like literally touching it with my index finger. No, no, no, it's called your edge Your what? I thought edging was when you run your teeth over the head No, no, no, no edging is when you like bring yourself to the almost to the point of ejaculation like you know You're like i'm coming right before you say i'm coming. That's when you stop But I always save it and then you got to put a pizza in the oven put the oven timer for seven minutes and then Oh, oh pizza's ready or just just always be waiting for a package from ups Because pretty much as soon as I'm at that point fully nude from the waist down That's when the package decides to come you leave your shirt on. Yeah, no, I take I get fully new

I can't even wear I can't even wear socks. I feel dirty here if I have the shirt on No, I leave my full clothes on sometimes to just pull out the penis through the pants Oh, no, no, no, see if I have a shirt on I feel like a dad. I gotta be ready to go in just in case there's a fire in the kitchen I put a suit jacket on You treat yourself extra nice. Yeah, it's like you take yourself out on a date So you've been masturbating six times a day for a week after doing it five four three two one That's when it's time to find your hot date Once you've convinced a woman to have sex with you which because at this point semen is literally dripping out of your nose

Yeah, I mean, it's not good Once you can have convinced a woman to have sex with you Insert yourself into the woman as deep as possible I normally try to do that but do not pull out until you have performed 81 murabandas which is a kind of Penile tensing technique that I could find no information. That's just clenching your buttholes. That's male kegels Yeah, do that 81 times that's not that that's not that much. I'm gonna tell you woman that you do not know very well

I'll just let her know what you're up to just tell her be like, hey, I'm about to do a thing I'm trying to get superpowers to shut up to shut the fuck up Or you can talk to her and it doesn't matter He didn't say the woman couldn't talk even though you've been touching yourself six times a day daily not coming And you've put in you and if you somehow managed to not immediately ejaculate by upon sticking your penis inside this woman Think about baseball I just go far faster because of those butts if you just take the butts out of the take it away from the dude's head. They're nice butts Strangest thing to yell when you ejaculate Henry. So after the 81 murabandas you pump in and out nine times

Exactly nine times then you do another 81 murabandas then you do 18 thrusts then the murabandas Then 27 thrusts and so on and so forth and at some point an out-of-body experience happens And one supernatural power is increased. I think he's just passed out. Yeah, I think the only out-of-body is the chick just leaving Yeah, I think she's just like I don't know what you're doing And I think your superpower is the shotgun blast of calm that comes out of you that you Spackle your walls with like you're a dirty version of spider-man. Yes, and you shoot back Fly back Shot in a western like an UHF when he's like firehose

But back at the compound a few years later Osahara's view on his follower sex life changed dramatically Members caught having sex were made to wear dog collars and forced to walk around on their hands and feet eating only The leftovers of other followers masturbation was out Earning offenders up to a week in solitary confinement, but none of this applied to the great guru Shoko Osahara Who like any good cult leader worth his salt slept with as many followers as he possibly could Well, that was actually one of the intimacy rituals

He had to think hold an intimacy ritual where he would take the newest female member into his room did not like no And he would force himself on them and they would do it because I'm you're becoming one with me And a part of the way that you were going to come one with me is that I'm going to do an icing mustache on your upper lip And that was the weird thing is I wish he didn't do a dirty Sanchez every single time But he said that's a part of the ritual But no he but in truth what he was trying to do is said I'm trying to create as many direct Progeny as possible and it's a part of the it's not something that he wants to do It's something he has to do dog meat. Yeah, I know too real pretty and that is too real. It's too real to be denied

And speaking of what a good cult is supposed to do What's an intensely sexed up monster without a steady diet of illicit harmful and mind-bending drugs? It's like a robber downy jr. Without a steady diet of illicit harmful mind-bending drugs Now almost without fail Outwardly destructive cult leaders as the cult gets bigger and the ideas get crazier These guys eventually develop crazy bad drug habits See cult leaders are like a battery that powers the entire cult and eventually that battery runs low And the only thing that can replace the manic energy that a person needs to run the day-to-day of an apocalyptic death cult

Is a steady diet of very powerful speedy as fuck drugs. Well, that's like being the lead singer of um Motley crew You need all of that But what one thing that is interesting too about him is that he literally was the center of the whole thing The whole cult was supposed to be an offshoot of his whole of his whole personality But what I find interesting is that I don't think there is much of it It's not so much that the drugs fuel the paranoia and the theories as that the theory to the paranoia may just be fueled by the drugs

Now while jim jones liked his speedballs shoko asahara's drug of choice was LSD and asahara said that his first trip was so strong. He wet his pants and became high like the highest ever Literally he said that is a literal quote from him became high perhaps the highest ever Yeah, which is what I said when I was 17 when I smoked weed for the first time behind a dumpster Literally the same way. I'm like hi. Yeah, it's like the highest ever

Yeah, dude like listening to track four on fucking evil rage against the machine evil empire. It's like We listened to queens ever another one bites the dust Yeah, I remember calling my mom and telling my mom three times of my butt I was hanging out with my buddy ian and they keep saying you keep saying you're hanging out with ian, man Hey, ian you're listed to the show. You remember that night? We went to walmart. We played with hulk clubs It was really fun. Um, but uh the One thing that is interesting too, but the lsd initiations. This was the first time I've ever heard this People in the lsd initiations were taking so much lsd. He would make them wear diapers

Yeah, because they were on so much lsd. They were pissing their pants I've been on a lot of acid. Yeah, but I've never been on shit your pants That's why you never see an outhouse at a pink floyd concert, but they also said a part of what's interesting About the diaper is that they would keep the diaper He would keep the diapers Because he wanted to make sure if they didn't throw out the diapers if the police came looking through the dumpsters This is one of his speed ideas that if they went looking through the dumpsters and found the diapers They would see the drug content in their piss and shit. I think you wore him as little hats

No, no soon ohms chemical team with the help of a book called recreational drugs written by an american named dr. Buzz Would begin manufacturing their own acid eventually making enough for five Million hits dr. Buzz. I'm so glad that you saw me so quick. I mean like I think I threw my back out at the gym and No, I think your big promise, bro. I say you're not fucking groovy enough Yeah And it wasn't long before every member of ohm supreme truth was walking around every day with a scalp full of electrodes And a brain full of acid. This is the good time Yeah, the heady times 60. This is like 1967 and this combined with very little sleep and very little food

Translated to a lot of industrial accidents and a lot of bodies because they're also dealing with chemical weapons and baby stages They're literally having a gigantic weapons factory next to all of this mayhem Lots or in the middle of it or all that's happening around it And with all these bodies around and since ohm was trying as hard as they could to escape the attention of the authorities They disposed of the bodies themselves by cremating them and unceremoniously scattering the ashes among the mount fuji foothills Could be said that shoko a Sahara had kind of a thing for incinerators He actually invented one himself called the final cleaner Which was a device that blasted hot air through a floor of red hot sand

That could reduce a human to ashes in half an hour. That sounds like a product billy maize is trying to sleep And you would not believe the sheer power of the The final cleaner I gotta say you put a piece of cloth in there It's like it never had wine stain on it because the cloth is also gone. Oh my god my hands Who turned it on my goddamn hands? And even though that sounds like a lot of fun the incinerator that ohm would settle on would be a refrigerator size device known simply as The microwave a body would be again stuffed into a metal barrel

Which would then be placed inside the microwave after a short period the body would cook Crumple and mushify as mushify your term mushify is a term that I used Yeah, and then after it would mushify It would crust on the sides of the barrel Kind of like a quiche kind of like a quiche. Yeah, it's like, you know when you put a microwave chicken pot pie Oh, I know it Yeah, when you put it in for way too long and it kind of sticks to it. Oh, yeah That's just in flip-flops. You're not wearing any clothes. You've been drinking for three days and you haven't slept in two

Not even your apartment. Yeah, I know it. They did that with a body Well, yeah, and what they would do is they would take the metal barrel out scrape off what was left of this human being off the sides Drop the chunks in a solution of nitric acid and flush them down the toilet They should have put it in nitrous oxide and shown the kids how cold it can be and you can break it Yeah, that would have been good with the kids. No, no, the only thing they taught the kids was to admire hitler And by the way hitler was still alive. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no That's what in this in this can in this world in argentina He might have been still in the ome shinrikyo cartoon supervillain world hitler was still hanging out somewhere

But he was like a funny uncle Oh, I see But it wasn't just accidents that killed the cult members by the end of 1994 Over 20 cult members had mysteriously gone missing and osahara's favorite scapegoat for these disappearances Was somebody who'd never done anything wrong to japan the united states japan was asking for it Japan technically they did a bunch of shit that we technically used and bought from them and did a bunch of stuff But they did bad shit and we we we did bad things back It's all fucking even in the end as far as i'm concerned. Yeah, and so now that they've got their scapegoat

They've got their big overall Uh enemy like they've got well, they've at least got one enemy They've got a shit ton of enemies, but now that they've got their big enemy the paranoia Really starts to get ramped up and he's really gonna use this to his advantage But with like the united states this all the time united states either fosters creates a villain either in our newspapers Or literally goes and physically creates something like isis where it's just like we make we made isis And now we have to deal with isis because we've got a new ultimate warrior to deal with and it's just like great We can go deal with this guy later on and he'll be he's in the roster

So when we need a war later to boost our fucking Economy again, we got a new villain down the thing. Why are you guys blaming america for um shun rikio? I feel like we're having some anti-american sentiment. We didn't make isis. We made al-qaeda. Well, I think we did all of it Yeah, it's all fake and we had to make al-qaeda to fight the russians. Yeah, well, but then the russians that fight was also fake They would do it for us. It did not it did terrible No, it was a wonderful war in the long run. It was awful for everybody involved All right, leave it alone. I think you guys are both joining the cult What what are you talking about? You're a part of the propaganda machine, kissle

Oh now you're all an american exceptionalist. Are you man? It is the best country on earth It is. I love america. No, you used to say that it wasn't the best country It was just your favorite and now you're saying it's the best country on earth and it's my favorite flopper He's a flip flopper. Oh, no. I'm a flip flopper a flip flopper get on with the story Well, this actually this side of the story is uh is actually over how we're gonna be doing uh this part of the story think of it like Uh, think of it like a feast for crows in a dance with dragons the game of throne series the two books They both happen at the same time. They both rung concurrently But both stories are so big that they have to be told separate and while this so basically we're seeing the domestic side

This is al-mashinrikyo on the inside. They're developing their own personality. They're becoming fucking nuts They're getting a little crazy, but their storyline is running out of juice. And so now Uh, asahara in his forever with wisdom is realizing we need somebody else going here So who am I going who am I going to look to I'm going to look to a neighbor to our west somebody that's got the same sort of like unspent potential like the members of al-mashinrikyo and that is the weapons developers inside of russia Yeah, they go straight to the recently crumbling ussr and find Everything they ever want now think about this. This is how dangerous this this so like up until now We're just seeing like some pretty shitty normal cult stuff except for the biochemical warfare

That is the thing that's pretty fucking crazy, right? He's my he's dipping his toe into into weapons of mass destruction It's not until he goes to russia And not like when napoleon went to russia and he got his fucking ass kicked or hitler when he was russia He got his fucking ass kicked they're going to russia and he finds it finds a thing that makes him the most dangerous group Probably on the in the fucking world and i'm going to put it this way Guys listen to the show it can happen Again, yeah, this man all he had was all he needed to do this was a billion dollars That's all you need to have if you have a lot of money

We're looking at the fucking Panama papers right now, right and this interconnected system of all these weird offshore banks and hidden money But in that world of tax evasion No, it's not there's there's government corruption, but i'm just saying um shenrikyo is like It's like these things are being connected to syrian isis But you're literally this these slush funds can be used to make something like ome shenrikyo again Just remember that and always be paranoid and never take pamphlets on the train Well, yeah, it's bigger. It's already bigger than that. Yeah, we wish we the glory days were um shenrikyo Now it's the global government

Well, that is the global government if we want to get into the Panama papers the Panama papers are legitimately the blueprint for the nwo but That's a whole other series of episodes also ranks inside of my apartment They're having fun All right. Well, that's uh, um shenrikyo part two. We'll be back next week with part three Uh with the true cobra command type of bullshit where you start getting like he has a destro He has a zomat and tamox. He's got a but he's got a fucking baroness like this guy like it's truly It's fascinating. It's almost inspiring almost almost inspiring. Yeah, just a little bit. She's got to work harder. Yeah

Work on your thigh muscles. Yeah, you can lead a cult if you can if you can hop on them Yeah, and they'll get to go to what the ladies in check off never got to do is go to Moscow Oh, please can we go to Moscow? You're gonna say vote? So guys, thank you so much for all the support that we're getting uh on the patreon page Uh, if you guys want to give to us on patreon, uh and get a lot of bonus content and even get a t-shirt and possibly a Bone if you give enough go to patreon.com slash last podcast on the left And if you want to just buy a t-shirt go to cave comedy radio dot com slash merch and while you're there Check out all the other great shows that we do me and ben do a blink and stop hat and round table a gentleman together

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It's a celebrity gossip podcast. I know i'm actually i'm actually excited to relax. Yeah, that'll be nice It's going to be fun. Definitely. All right. Thanks guys so much for supporting the patreon page. It's unbelievable really appreciate that And we've also got some big news coming up too big news real big news in the future that we're getting a nuclear weapon Oh, I thought we were going to adopt a kid Damn it. When do we do that season four? Yeah When do we get the damn child already in season or we're in season four? Yeah. Yeah, it's just that we do 52 episodes a season Yeah, yeah, yeah, not like all the rest of these assholes like oh, we do eight episode seasons like no We do 52 episodes seasons that never ends it never

It apes going into our skeletons What i'm hoping i'm waiting for the robot nanny that we'll get in season seven Oh, that'll be exciting But she short circuits and falls in love with all of us and it rips our cocks off with her fucking mandibles That won't be so bad All right, everyone. Well hail satan. Hail yourselves and follow us all on twitter marcus parks at ben kissle at Henry loves you Fall follow me at instagram. Henry at dr. Fantasty at lp on the left for instagram as well Watch marcus's show or listen to it with your your ear eyes. Yeah

To the lucky bone show which is very good. I masturbated while I was playing in the background yesterday I did yes, I did that was it was a mistake But it was a part of it. I mean it was a sexy episode No, no, no, no, no, I don't like I stop stroking when he talks Yeah, I only talk for like 30 seconds at a time to do like hey, you're just listening to that And by that point I'm such in a weird like like phase then then it's fine. Yeah Yeah, I put it. It was a high energy playlist So I could see someone jerking it to that mix cloud.com slash marcus parks lucky bone show and go follow me on spotify as well

I've got literally Dozens upon dozens of playlists for you guys to approve. Awesome. All right. Check those out Don't I mean I guess masturbate if you want to just don't do it in public Just do what you gotta do listen to music in public You know come by the murderfish show this saturday at the pit at nine o'clock. I'm gonna be there Yeah, come by because I uh you're gonna masturbate there too. Yeah, obviously it's sketch I uh Come by that. It's gonna be a really good show. I'm really excited for it. Mm-hmm. That's the people's improv theater

Right here in beautiful new york. Thank you. Yeah, it is a great show I'll be there too. I didn't know I didn't know you guys hit a live show Yeah, we always do and once a month second saturday when you you guys have been doing that for a while Nine years nine years, huh? Yes. Yes. It's a sketch comedy. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah All right, well, hi again, everybody. All right, magusta. Yeah magusta. Let's don't join the cult today. Okay. Wait till tomorrow Sleep on it For more shows like the one you just listened to go to cave comedy radio comm