Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 220: Aum Shinrikyo Part III - The Soldiers of White Love

Episode Date: April 13, 2016

The Aum series continues with the cult expanding into Russia, running afoul of many stray dogs in the process, and coming goddamn close to obtaining an actual working nuclear bomb while they were ther...e.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There's no place to escape to. This is the last talk on the left That's when the cannibalism started I want to get the muffs Yeah, like you're the gun range Like you're an autistic kid that gets afraid whenever there's dogs barking in the neighborhood You can hear it. He runs outside. He's got to solve a fucking mystery. I just don't go to a lot of concerts The great thing is melt banana. You know where they're from. No, Japan. Oh, really? Wow All right, welcome to the last podcast on the left everyone. I'm Ben Kissel. That's Marcus Marks. Hey, how are you Henry?
Starting point is 00:00:43 What? my back kind of hurts why I Was getting out of the bed yesterday, and I shanked it whoa, whoa, you were getting out of bed Well, you threw your back out. It was it was just like a tie. I literally was getting out to Natalie was coming in the door, and I was getting out to say hi cuz I was laying in my own filth I got back from the gym. I was being healthy I got back from the gym and a lot of times what I'll do with the gym is strip all of my clothes off and then just lay down On the bed just kind of spread eagle just laying there. That's what happens sometimes
Starting point is 00:01:18 Yeah, and then I saw her come in the door and I was excited like a Labrador retriever I jumped up out of the bed, but guess what I'm not made of snips and snails and puppy dogs tails I Am made out of old cigarette butts and and bent cans. Well, all right. That's fine Let's talk. I didn't do a life change from one shoko, Asahara That's correct. All right, so we're on to part three of all my son Ricky. Oh, yes Oh, I'm Shin Rikkyo this episode like last episode. We really covered the micro of what happened to Omshin Rikkyo between 1989 and 1994 this this week we're gonna go through their worldwide
Starting point is 00:01:58 Operations the macro the true Cobra command shit that they did from 1990 to 1994 We talked about the last time it's so the yes on the home front Omshin Rikkyo was getting more fucked up as it went He was like, you know, Asahara is growing in paranoia and megalomania and really starting me and Starting his outreach is he started realize his outreach within Japan is not enough for him Yeah, he wants a deeper reach and we'll find out later on too is that he was actually obsessed with mine comf And he felt that this is a part of it. He on he sympathized with the Nazis that's what he said. He sympathized with Hitler and they were allies. Yeah
Starting point is 00:02:37 Yes, and he looked at him as a sympathetic figure and said we need to follow in their example of world domination Yeah, and that in after the Haruma get in when Omshin Rikkyo stands alone We will help the resurgence of the Nazi party and little known fact Hitler also had a picture of him levitating, but it was his own human dookie Yes, almost like SpaceX the way that that launches with you know fuel. Yes, actually human Hitler dookie They hear me like come here. I want you to take these two Google eyes. Take the googly eyes Yeah, puts them on the top of this pile perfect pyramids of my perfect shit I mean like I've got to say Hitler that is the funniest pile of poop
Starting point is 00:03:17 I've ever seen and I'm going to take a picture of it and I'm going to never share it with anyone because it's just too funny It's too possibly funny to poop with googly eyes Yeah, another yeah, a little known fact first use of googly eyes for humor for emojis Yeah, the first emoji was actually Hitler's shit with googly eyes No, well most doomsday cults can do with just one scapegoat the scope of Oms operation required Dozens their enemy's list was Staggeringly long put Nixon's to shame it included the press the Japanese government even rival cults Which there were quite a few in Japan there were they were all trying to steal followers from each other
Starting point is 00:03:58 No, if only they all could have just gotten along they would have taken over Japan and the world right see listen to this cults If you're listening last podcast on the left on the left make allies with each other Then you can win it was sort of against the character trait of a cult leader though to be friend other cult leaders exact They're going to be one exactly. They need a Scotty Pippin, right, right I need a good assist man needed Charles Barkley. I'm not sure that's right sure So at the very top of Oms list was an entity the people looking to justify mass murder had been using for decades now the good old US of a we're everybody's enemy
Starting point is 00:04:35 They don't know that we're everybody's best friend and that's why you must let us inside your country conform So Osahara told followers that the reason why so many people were dying and the reason why they were all sick most of the time Was because the United States was regularly spraying the compound with biochemical weapons Oh, you didn't think it was because they were all sitting in their own filth now and eat nothing But like yeah parboiled vegetables sucking on the toes of a 300 pound man that is your leader Who's technically eating the same shit as you but he keeps getting fatter Yeah, but he wasn't eating the same nonsense that they were he had food delivered didn't he no he literally had a driver There was a book written by one of his drivers to Maru who wrote this whole thing about how he would set he would send
Starting point is 00:05:25 Osahara would send him on errands and one of the errands you would do would be to several restaurants To go and get him like meat and fish and all the stuff that they weren't supposed to eat because it's against Buddhist principles And he would eat them in a private room yet. It's probably of course it was fucking and they should have seen how many plastic Food utensils were in there Laying around we're done after a delivery quest. I got three. I got three sets of silverware yesterday $29 on Chinese food Thank you so much. I just got a high five. That's the first high five in the history of last podcast You haven't changed. No, I haven't and another thing that he would do
Starting point is 00:06:01 I this is just a side note tomorrow would also take him to karaoke rooms Osahara loved karaoke rooms and he would go to private rooms and he would bring all of his lovers like all the hottest chicks and Ohm and all and his children and they would rent these rooms and he would pass the mic around and they would all sing a song and So finally he'd take the mic and every single time his absolute favorite song He would sing was the Japanese version of my way by Frank Sinatra And he would not give the mic back. He would just sing my way over the rest of it over Which by the way singing my way in Japan and other various Asian countries huge faux pas You're not supposed to sing my way
Starting point is 00:06:39 It's like singing stairway to heaven here. In fact in the Philippines. I think it's either the Philippines or in Thailand You will get beaten half to death if you sing my way Did they know that Frank Sinatra was violently racist against the Asians was he? Oh, yes Sinatra was violently racist against white people. Yes. He was just a terrible terrible human being he beat me a pharaoh Yeah, yeah me a pharaoh really quick side note He broke up with a woman by sending his bodyguard up to her hotel room and he threw a glass of wine on her Go through the wine on the girls so she knows that we broke up. I want one of these bodyguards I want a bodyguard slash limo driver. I want somebody to ask to do ludicrous shit. All right
Starting point is 00:07:21 Let's get back to another psychopath so besides the I guess the invented paranoia the cult's paranoia also got a boost from the Real world as the compound was constantly besieged by family members trying to rescue those who had cut ties with them the press who from the very beginning knew something was up with ohm and finally the police who were Completely ineffective as their policy. This is Japanese policy was to always announce raids in advance What's polite? Yeah, it's a very polite society but also within the cult they are all they are being led to believe that what they're doing is completely on the books and completely on the level that they are Uh fighting for peace and then everybody's attacking them where they don't understand most 90% of ohm shenrikyu did not understand
Starting point is 00:08:07 How heavily involved the that other 10% were were in making weapons of mass Destruction and also drugs. They're really gigantic drug-running Like business to the side of it and they're literally hanging in their man like why are all these people bugging us all the time? Yeah, and thus with the tax coming from all sides Asahara said the time to arm is now Yes, and with millions of dollars in the bank and over a thousand cult members living in compounds across Japan Ohm was more than prepared to do so now while most of us know about the biochemical side of things Ohm's arsenal went Well beyond poison gas Ohm acquired a failing Manufacturer called Okamera arm iron works moved every bit of machinery to a massive building 20 miles from their main compound and
Starting point is 00:08:57 began manufacturing AK-47s from scratch now these weren't 10 year old Indian kids who know how to build guns These were 30 year old Japanese people who up until this point have just been simple chemists or or physicists Yeah, well, I mean didn't they like didn't the government realized they were gutting out this iron works factory I mean that would be difficult to move wouldn't they need like mass trucks? No, they just like that. Yatta. Keep moving forward spirit of enlightenment They used a spell No, they were all just super excited being like yes move forward expansion reach to the stars We do not reach to the stars then you will never become an ashram on young Asahara, and he's just like thank you
Starting point is 00:09:39 The power of ambition. Yeah, you can do it nature of the Japanese. We lost that in this country, didn't we? Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we slowly bred it out of us using the trilateral commission's use of rigorous schooling and also Floor ride in the water. Yeah, but we're still doing it America's number one export entertainment. There we go That's all we got left perfect So the ultimate goal of the AK-47 factory was to have 1,000 rifles and 1 million bullets by 1995 Enough to arm every man woman and child on their various compounds across Japan now with kids you just can wrap them up in bullets Send them in there. Yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 00:10:19 It was estimated that eventually the project would have cost over 10 million dollars But to ohm whose assets at the time of the purchase were worth well over 200 million dollars This was a drop in the bucket Now, you know what it's also a really effective way to use to child as a weapon What you do is you strap a bunch of you know, you can take out the grenades You can pull the pin right and then you can strap the thing so you can like hold the hold the thing The thing you do. Yeah, I think you do so it's a blow up the pin Yeah, the latch take a bunch of those you pop them, right?
Starting point is 00:10:51 You hold the latch with duct tape tape it all over the inside of the kids clothes, right? Go up to have the kid run up to the american embassy, but please please please please help please help Please help and he's just like what do you say? I think I have rash and berry I have rash and berry and they're like oh young japanese boy. We have to help where the u.s. Embassy All we do is help. I don't know if they help with rashes on bellies What they do is they think that that's code for the they this kid wants them to fuck them Oh, I see because they're the government they take the kid into the into the building They go to erotically strip its clothes off of it. Boom. So that's a suicide bomber. Yes. Yeah, but using pedophilia against them
Starting point is 00:11:29 I don't know, but I think you're inferring the pedophilia Definitely confirming we have a suicide bombing child. Look at the numbers follow the money. Yes, that is hastered for example The most the latest senator to fall. Oh, yeah, we'll cover Dennis hastered in the future Now in addition to their attempts at ak's ome shinrikyo would develop literal Tons of chemical weapons build a functioning rail gun as well as a few functioning lasers and manufacture Thousands of pounds of tnt. These guys were on the fucking level. Yeah. Well, this is when it get truly gets Actually frightening. Yeah, this is what we were talking about last episode about where ome shinrikyo was
Starting point is 00:12:12 Legitimately one of the most dangerous forces in the world Then when they were coming because they had the independent thought they had the mind To to put all of this shit together and then what this is another thing that's really interesting is that in the book Destroying the world to save it They have a really interesting concept about the how megalomania and how dangerous that is in this scenario A lot of times in megalomania. You see it people and people that are deeply suffering in They're deep in the suffering of schizophrenia and they believe there's gigantic illusions and stuff like that Is that asahara was was literally suffering from a version of that but had access to millions of dollars
Starting point is 00:12:52 And thousands of people willing to do his nonsense wills just him jungoon, right? Yes Yeah, and that's in addition to a head full of acid. Yes, and so oh my god a real gun when you're out acid Oh, yeah Immediately me and my brother is gonna fucking youtube it. Oh man youtube it But he came out and one thing they said it's really interesting is about how the uh an atomic bomb Which is asahara's main goal is such a Should I wait? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's the big reveal. Yeah. Yeah Uh, so get bad, but uh start talking about the other you got a youtube it you just go for it
Starting point is 00:13:29 Yeah, but no, but this is when you bring in all of the other weird inventions that uh, yes Yes, yes, yes, yes But what asahara would do he would he had this concept called the mahamudra Which was this uh, which I think I brought up last time Which idea that a guru has become so enlightened that sometimes he gives a confusing command on purpose just to see How dedicated you are right to him is that you won't question him? So one thing he would do that was the 1000 whatever hit your head on the floor 1000 times Yeah, yeah, it's all the bullshit and so what he did that he is his head science officer a man named rai who was his second
Starting point is 00:14:05 Command he was his Devoted devoted human being and one thing he would turn to him He's like I want you to make me a metal that's lighter than air He's like absolutely guru. We can do it and he just says he could do it And they just go off and they go work on it a bunch and then when he doesn't do it right He just prostrates himself in front of the guru and then it's just more about the idea that he went to went to go do it So what asahara came one thing that he came forward and asked for is that he said I want a floating chair He said I want to harness the gravity of the sun
Starting point is 00:14:35 And I want I want to use that in order to levitate easier more easily than I'd normally have to do Flexing my powerful leg muscles. There's a movie about that. Yes, man. Put the balloons on the chair Oh up up. Yeah, that's the house. There's a movie where a man sits on a chair and he puts a balloon Oh, yeah, that's right. He died. Yes. He's gone. Yeah. It was wait. Don't do it. It was dumb Yeah, dumb thing to do. So morai took the command. He said, okay We will go work on it and he comes back to asahara a couple weeks later He's like, okay, we can do it. But the problem is the chair will spin so fast. It will make people sick Oh, that's a kind of a fun ride for a for a carnival
Starting point is 00:15:16 In asahara say like yeah, forget about it. Yeah. Yeah. You know what actually that's cool It's cool. Cool. Thank you. So they had all that goofy shit. They had all of the the truly dangerous stuff like the tnt The chemical weapons the ak-47s But the one thing the ohm wanted above all else was a nuclear Bomb get in line. Yeah, right and luckily for them the number one producer of atomic weapons Was collapsing just across the ocean for shoko asahara and ohm shenrikyo would find a second home Oh my god in russia Just as the ussr was collapsed. I just love the idea that russia had a fire sale
Starting point is 00:15:55 And it was everything must go. What do you have all they had was nukes Just everything's glowing with radiation This little photos is like all my my best salesman is my is korsk here and korsky tell them how or is like I am forty thousand years old, but I look like I'm nine years old and that is because of radiation from shinobo What we'll say we have got the quite a sale This is like we can get two atomic bombs for up to 40,000 korsk Wow, what exactly is the korsk korsk korsky on yours? It is salt a salt cube
Starting point is 00:16:32 Oh, how I yearn for salt. Yeah, they do need salt over there bad food So asahara's arrival in russia could not have been timed more perfectly just as the emperor of japan I'm abdicating his godhood after world war two created a spiritual vacuum in japan So too did the collapse of the soviet union in 1991 and not only that But the soviet school system was very similar to japan's filled with rote memorization That discouraged any critical thinking whatsoever russia was ripe for the taking and asahara planned to take it Now and what would be the first of many sold-out appearances in russia's largest covered arena? Asahara and this is kind of his trojan horse. This was his way into the hearts of the russian people
Starting point is 00:17:20 He would sit on a chair in a bare field as video screens flashed pictures of him as christ Crucified and after that went on for a while asahara would give a rambling speech on yoga and kundalini Before leading everyone in a mass meditation ritual and one academic described the scene as quotes An awe-inspiring overwhelming experience in the state of mass hypnosis. Well, it's a lot more serious than that an awe-inspiring overwhelming experience in the state of mass Hypnosis. Yeah, man. It sounds like when we took psychotics and wanted to go see the flaming lips. That sounds awesome It does sound pretty fucking rad. So you may say he was somewhere between maryland manson and guenith paltrow
Starting point is 00:18:10 Yeah, something like that, but also e honda That's him that's him in one go Don't even get me started for those that don't know e honda could flap his hands all fast You get your enemy in the corner. They can't move So these spectacles would happen every time asahara would visit russia over the next few years until finally Some russian prankster let loose a pack of feral stray dogs into the crowd Just ruin the whole thing for everyone. You would be surprised how many group experiences are ruined in russia by someone unleashing a pack of dogs When the russians had the olympics, there was a bunch of stray dogs feraled us. What's wrong with the russians and the dogs?
Starting point is 00:18:49 How's the dogs? It just seems like everybody was raising attack dogs and then everybody ran out of meat at the same time Release the dogs But while new followers and especially the new money was very nice Asahara was much more interested in russia's rogue scientists See scientists in soviet russia, especially those involved in military applications were among the ussr's upper crust exalted individuals They wanted for nothing and they enjoyed privileges that the proletariat could only dream of like salt Yeah, brad shoes really just soup. I mean they had a full sink Wow each apartment each government cube that was given to them had a full sink. Well the worst thing about a half sink
Starting point is 00:19:34 It's just difficult for you to have no sink, but in whatever apartment you are the sink also doubles as a toilet Oh, that's kind of nice, but when the soviet union collapsed Suddenly there were hundreds of scientists hundreds if not thousands of scientists with a vast knowledge of both chemical And nuclear warfare out of a job and shoko asahara was right there to offer them one See by the end of 1994 omshin rikyo had a membership of over 30 Thousand in russia three times their membership in japan and recruiting scientists with nuclear know-how Very easy to do their horse Yeah, well, I mean these guys they have one marketable skill their families their families are starving
Starting point is 00:20:17 They have one skill and it just happens to be creating weapons of mass destruction and death Yeah, yeah, and they're totally fine with it But sam nun one of the us senate's top defense experts he said about he this is what he said about that Literally thousands of nuclear scientists do not know how they're going to provide adequately for their families But they certainly know how to make nuclear weapons. Oh, that's refreshing. That's very reassuring Nothing like a nuclear scientist with nothing to lose Okay, okay, the baby is crying. Where is marshka marshka? Where do I guess I guess it will happen So now you're a stay at home dead. I guess I will just sit around. Okay. What good, baby?
Starting point is 00:21:00 You cry out. What do I do? Dip you in cooling liquid. Oh, that's all you I just make the noise. You're like, oh, look at this. Oh, uh, this did nothing for the shit on you No sad So kiyahidehaya waka Asahara's right-hand man took no less than eight trips to russia in 1994 Also, this is just one of asahara's right-hand man, but I do feel like asahara did this quite a bit
Starting point is 00:21:30 I think he did the jack palance You are my number one guy like three times He would do it every single time when the last one died you got to be that one But he also said it the two other guys in the other room literally just before he said it to you right so this guy's notes From his trips to russia They include numerous references to nuclear warheads with one page listing several different prices for various nuclear weapons the lowest price 15 million dollars, which was again to somebody who's coffers
Starting point is 00:22:03 There's hundreds of millions of dollars pocket change to on shin rikkyo And while the likelihood of ohm smuggling an actual nuclear bomb from russia to japan is admittedly low It is not too farfetched to assume that they could have at least smuggled Enough plutonium in to create a dirty bomb. Sure. I mean you can put anything in your rectum You can't put anything in your rectum up to the size of a baguette Yes, so a couple of trips. That's all I mean how much plutonium do you need three baguettes worth? How much plutonium is a lot of plutonium? I feel like a little plutonium is a lot of plutonium That's what I thought is that you don't need that much to make an atomic bomb, right? I don't know no
Starting point is 00:22:44 I am somewhat lacking in terms of my knowledge of nuclear science. Sure So when detonated a dirty bomb creates a radioactive mist that embeds itself in the environment for literally Thousands of years rendering it a deadly wasteland for centuries to come I'm just going to put a little bracket in there for joke concerning kissles bathroom Oh, okay. Good. I like that joke It's kind of funny. Even a small dirty bomb would render half of tokyo completely uninhabitable for hundreds of years And asahara was well on his way to obtaining both the components and the knowledge necessary to make it happen He was this close. He was maybe six eight months away
Starting point is 00:23:34 Yes, and marcus made about a half inch by half inch close Half inch because that's what he was doing. Yeah, a cun hair. It was cun hair. Oh, oh, I see. Well, depending on the cunt A vaginal follicle I don't like I think vaginal follicles worse than cun hair. I don't well For my purposes, I have to say vaginal follicle. How often you say it on Fox? Oh so much so much Now russia would also net the cult one of their most terrifying weapons of all through the former soviet state of azure by john And this was a very common thing In in the post-soviet years because all of a sudden you have all of these soviet states that are suddenly
Starting point is 00:24:17 Independent nations with no idea how to govern themselves but also In need of cash in need of a lot of desperately and so they have all of this shit And it's like we literally needed to buy food and so we can just sell off These reserves we have all of this and we have weapons just hanging around like literally anti because russia was very good at giving everybody weapons Before it was the when it was the ussr Everybody got weapons just to be like just in case any one of us has got to kill everybody Here you're set
Starting point is 00:24:45 So ohm was able to buy for actually this is kind of a low price They paid seven hundred thousand dollars for an mi 17 military class helicopter Capable of being equipped with 128 rockets four scorpion anti-tank missiles And a 12.7 millimeter gun mounted on the nose. It sounds like a great time I just have to say they're like fucking awesome time Eight months to getting a nuke. They have a helicopter. I mean a head full of acid Holy holy hell. This is my question. Oh, what was the interior like? I mean, I'm sure it's very nice a good military. It's an ice a toner
Starting point is 00:25:22 Ice a toner leather is what you want. Yeah, we can put the leather in yeah All right. Okay. Okay fine. So no features I'll give you guys one guess where osahara sent his pilots to train for their terroristic exercise Florida Terrorists are like we want to blow up the united states We want to blow up our homelands, but let's do it in the comforts under the sun Let's do it in the orange state were you guys talking about like playing in some sort of like massive terrorist attack because
Starting point is 00:25:58 You should come down to me near punks of tunky Flight school. I got I got like five helicopters and I mostly teach things up like how to kill things from the sky Yeah, I'm not convinced florida doesn't have a secret tourism campaign going on for terrorists Yeah, there's an anti-american sleeper cell in florida, which I mean come on I mean if you guys in case you you know, I get put in two and two together florida was where the 9 11 hijack It's where we're we're trained. I bet it's run by an alligator with an eye patch and two parents He doesn't even care. He's cold-blooded No, even though the weapon capabilities of the helicopter were impressive ohms main goal for the helicopter
Starting point is 00:26:41 Which by the way easily passed through japanese customs. They just waved it on through It was like pineapple pineapple bizarre mango helicopter pineapple pineapple Oh, it can't bring this frog in there. No, this is an endangered frog man Arrest her so ohms main goal for the helicopter was to fit it with a spraying mechanism filled with poison gas Spray it over tokyo And easily wipe out half the city this came from a vision. He had this is about time like while he was ramping up the uh while he the while the harumageddon
Starting point is 00:27:18 Didn't temperature was rising and the pressure was rising on the outside of ome shinrikyo He began this this concept of saying 70 tons and he would yell out 70 tons and no one knew In within the 90 percent again that don't know what's going on what he was talking about What he was talking about with 70 tons of sarin gas Yeah, and because of ohms vast contacts with former military scientists The cult would also return from russia with the soviet recipe for sarin gas, which by the way that recipe originally developed by you guessed it Nazis
Starting point is 00:27:57 You know what the nazis A lot came out of that. They did. I know the yes. They did so Much god damn. They were work. They were kind of like um like lemonhead perry What's the name of that blues man that like mick jagger and chuck berry loved? We'll call him lemonhead perry. They were like toe pants johnson leadbelly They always have names like that. So you're equating leadbelly to the nazis because they both were tart Well, they just they were Lebron james is the nazi or maybe robert johnson. Are you thinking of robert johnson?
Starting point is 00:28:31 So, what are those guys? What are those blues men that all the white guys stole from? Yeah. Yeah, muddy waters robert johnson, hallen wolf How's the nazis? They're the nazis. I see. Oh, okay. So yeah, you're saying like muddy waters was like the hindry kimmler of american music Yes If you want to compare american music to the development of weapons of master structure, sure, okay, and I do So sarin gas it was it is among the most effective and popular of the gases used in chemical warfare for example Uh, the uh, the uh, iraqis Saddam Hussein was a big fan of sarin gas in the late 80s early 90s
Starting point is 00:29:11 The infection begins with a runny nose Drooling and a tightness of the chest the victim's vision is then narrowed down to a pin point effectively blinding them That's followed by muscle spasms excessive sweating and uncontrolled defecation and urination Next come the convulsions It is You just get no, I know because they're just like Bro, you are shitting yourself. You are like pooping a lot. Listen. Listen, man. No, this is becky's birthday party, man You're ruining this for me, man. Wait a second. I'm kind of like you eat those tacos
Starting point is 00:29:54 It is always funny when people have uncontrollable bowels Yes, yes after the uncontrollable bowels come convulsions coma Then eventually death with survivors often suffering permanent nerve damage. I don't you're gonna say embarrassed I honestly would be embarrassed like that is a to fear like having a medical breakdown and if you would Defecate yourself in public. Yeah, you defecate and urinate yourself and then you just start shaking it all over the place Like that hippo who got out of the pool You have a youtube hippo farting and you'll love the video
Starting point is 00:30:35 I just imagine a shit covered fucking convulsing dance just called the Somalian twist. Yeah, it's very unique to your culture, huh? Let's do the shits Now under the right weather Now under the right weather conditions, which is ironically the right weather conditions for uh A sarin gas attack the end of a sunny clear day A 500 pound sarin bomb could easily wipe out half of washington dc And as henry said ome's goal was 70 tons now They got the idea was to mimic a biblical disaster
Starting point is 00:31:12 That's what it was it fit with his brand it fit with this idea of being like we will reign death from the skies People will not understand what is happening and they will assume it's a godlike motion And then once like so first it will appear to be a biblical disaster And then it will appear to be a gigantic chemical weapons attack And then that will be blamed upon the united states of america. Yeah, I mean he he's putting all his chips on the us being Blamed on this despite japan being one of our closest allies in the late nights And if you again if you want to compare this to the charles manson uh race war concept Which was such a small concept. There's another good cool thing interesting from this book
Starting point is 00:31:52 They were talking about it's like manson was saying like but but manson's idea was just like oh guns and knives Like yeah, there'll be fun boogies. Yeah, yeah, it would be like warriors It would be kind of fighting in the streets But asa hara's vision of the end times was so epic and then because he had the cash flow to make it happen It's again. He's he was probably the most dangerous person in america. Yeah, because I mean the most dangerous person in the world Yeah, absolutely like it because mansons whole thing was just all about telling a lie to get all the chicks out to the desert Because he liked living in the desert like finger and chicks. Yeah Yeah, that wasn't the end game for him like the the whole helter skelter thing
Starting point is 00:32:31 That was just him riding the wave that was like a side game That was just a lie because he was a petty criminal a bit of a megalomaniac He did enjoy the attention He did enjoy like the christ-like vision that people had of him But asa hara the sex was a side effect the set the sex was like that was just a bonus to him I was reading about too. He was also barely coming He was still believing in the idea of transferring your energy upwards So he would take his the hottest females from home into his room and he'd go like
Starting point is 00:33:02 No, no, no, no, yeah, you know like like pull him off just before he thought then go Well, I like that though. We talked about it last time But at least he was living up to his own standard to some degree to some degree. Yeah, I mean, but I mean no one else was allowed to have Any sex at all. Yeah, no sex at all. But yeah, so asa hara was a truly dangerous man And he he was this was actually a goal He was going to go through with this because of all the acid the visions that he saw he believed his own bullshit what started off as A scam to sell like energy drinks to idiots It's ended up he believed his own press. Absolutely. Well, he's truly and he was truly mentally ill
Starting point is 00:33:40 and then the constant acid and the Isolation and the creating of a whole group of people that idolize you you begin you begin to believe in the fantasy that is a part of the Self con man that you con yourself into becoming the guru position and then there's no coming back And don't you constantly have to have give them something to do? You constantly have to be evolving otherwise it dies, right? Absolutely because you have that we talked about that in the last episode with that manic energy that they have to have that They have to keep up because you got to keep this train moving forward if it slows down even a little bit
Starting point is 00:34:14 And he found that in the late 80s early 90s when he started trying to run for office The train started to slow down and anytime he is seen again and again Anytime the train slows down a shitload of people get off Think about how upset you get when you aren't getting commercial editions for a week Oh my livid. Yeah, it's the same shit Which like robber j liftin said in his book It was really interesting too is about the push and pull of the guru believing that he's the guru and also his self doubt And the and the cults belief in the guru and their doubt of him and how that push pull makes it really
Starting point is 00:34:46 Once you get what nuclear weapons Involved in that it gets very very dangerous. Yeah one story that he said I always say real quick Is that asahara was confronted by one of the renunciants wanting to stop being a devotee? Because he fell in love with another chicken ohm morai Turned to him. He said, you know what he should do is punishment is that he should eat her shit He should eat her shit and see how he feels after he tastes her shit and asahara was like that's insane No way two weeks later asahara walks in literally turns to the guy and he's like i've come up with your punishment You will eat her shit
Starting point is 00:35:26 What if you literally they went and ate he ate her shit in front of everybody In that another time a young sapien never denies eating shit Oh master always chooses me to eat shit and what do I do? Oh, I eat shit with much alacrity I mean did she did she Shit knowing that it was going to be eaten or did somebody have to yeah They told her to shit on a plate and then they ate it you'd think a plate I'm the i'm big the floor i'm picturing a bowl either that bowl Yeah, i'm taking a bowl either that or somebody waited until she went to the outhouse
Starting point is 00:35:59 And they snuck up behind with the bucket and they caught it. Oh, she was in the great trick. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah She was in the cult as well. Yeah, all these people are in the cult together It happened it also happened where another guy a different guy Told asahara. Hey, I fallen in love with this woman. I want to marry her We we want to leave we you know, we believe in the guru's love, but we believe in our love more He dunked them in boiling water and then hung them upside down for a day. It's called the heat test. Yeah Oh, yeah, yeah, that was it boiling water. It was a big part of ome shinrikyo Yeah, he was boiling
Starting point is 00:36:33 He was legitimately boiling the karma to you like everybody was a wonton But also that's how asahara saw everything in piles of wontons. Hmm. Why wouldn't he that's how I see everything too I can't stop thinking about those ducks that you can see deep-fried ducks Kind of fun. So they they died when they were boiled in water. Oh, no Some of them did the old people usually died because there was weak There was no age limit on the boiling water So the bio lab where the seren gas was produced which they called satan seven Straight out of a fucking comic book after entering a non-descript warehouse and navigating a series of narrow corridors
Starting point is 00:37:14 one Eventually came to a large mezzanine with a giant golden statue of shiba the god of destruction Sitting in the middle and hidden above shiba was the so-called room of genesis Where scientists worked on various chemical agents, which they gave cute little nicknames like magic witch Or sally it sounds like fucking like they were making molly It sounds like my little pony name Oh satan seven. Uh, it was affectionately nicknamed the wizard
Starting point is 00:37:50 That's fucking awesome, dude little callback. Yeah mountain wizards. Yeah. Yeah, he brings it back So it's like we always got to go back to the wizards. They're like high five each other like, you know I almost forgot that they are just a bunch of nerds at the end of the day You forget that's the problem with nerds is that once they start taking themselves seriously they become nuclear superpowers Now to test the seren after it had been completed and purified Ohm traveled to australia bought a ranch called banjewan station Acquired a 29 strong flock of sheep tethered the sheep to a to the ground in a semi circle
Starting point is 00:38:30 And exposed the sheep to a cloud of seren gas that they had developed themselves from the russian by way of the nazi's recipe Wow So all you're gonna do with a sheep and come on down in my sheep farm where I do with them Oh most respectful young australian What we plan to do is nerve gas them to death and experiment to see what the nerve gas will do to humankind All right. Well, I guess that's as bad as good as anything. I was gonna fuck them Australians have a fun way of talking All 29 sheep died and the cult was good. Good batch. The cult finally developed their first successful weapon after trying to use
Starting point is 00:39:11 Botulism after trying to use anthrax. We didn't even go through that. They're nice little foray into the world of anthrax They couldn't quite develop either because you know as we said in the last episode bio weapon biological weapons are very very difficult So get off their back No, I mean, I'm not judging them. I'm just they're they're trying they're trying real hard and they tried hard enough to develop seren gas And ohm could not wait to use it and unleashed their first seren gas attack in the town of matsumoto on june 28th 1994 the attacks on the trains that was not their first deadly attack That was not their first attempt by far the tokyo attacks. I think were there look what fifth or sixth
Starting point is 00:39:56 Fifth or sixth attempt and the matsumoto incident as it is referred to was their first deadly attack, you know I just feel bad for the sheep I really I've been this entire time I was thinking about the sheet. I can't talk. I'm talking about them murdering people and you can't stop thinking about the sheep People are some they've been mean to me. Yeah, and you know a sheep never has she doesn't know what's happening It does know what's happening. It just wants to be shaved and warned to keep us warm. You know what Ben You know who had that same opinion who did shoko asahara? No, I'm completely serious. He felt sad about the she felt so bad about the sheep because his whole thing
Starting point is 00:40:37 Was karma and of course the karma things that you could gain good karma for murdering somebody because you're releasing them from this world Just saving them from hell, but animals Killing animals was nothing like you could already their heaven Yeah, you already fit into the technically the sheep farm was there It was and they were just having a little sheep day going about their sheep lives But technically it all fit back into his poa Philosophy the idea that you're killing the thing to release its karma You're doing because you're working towards a higher end. Everything's explained. Okay. Yeah
Starting point is 00:41:08 So people in japan Understandably didn't really like having ohm shinrikyo around what are you talking about? They're just stinky Uh, they're they're really loud. You see flashing lights coming out of it that are legitimately laser tests You wonder what's happening in there. You know, I'm like, oh, you know, they're fine. Yeah, they're kind of fun neighbors right I think suicide death cults can be beneficial to a community think so they're gonna raise property values up Well, you know, I don't know about that. You know that once they're all dead those buildings are going to be a lot cheaper Right. He's creating jobs think about that. And so people regular folks
Starting point is 00:41:42 They went to great lengths to remove ohm shinrikyo from their immediate vicinity because ohm and the by the mid 90s They were a known quantity in japan. Ohm shinrikyo was a thing And anytime you saw ohm shinrikyo cultists moving into your area It was time to use the law to its fullest extent to keep them the fuck out They were just as visible as Scientology. Yeah, they were not as technically legit as Scientology only because we haven't like They the there wasn't a lot of celebrities that were involved like in Scientology Scientology is because they're trying to make it more normal Yeah, it was Scientology in its early days before they got like John Tra and you know, Tom Cruise and all that John Tra, that's what you call them. Yeah, John Tra. Do you don't listen to page seven?
Starting point is 00:42:26 I love page seven and I listen to it every week. I must have just missed that. Yeah. Oh, you miss John Tra It's like the sit John Tra. It's the center of page seven. That's everything revolves around John Tra Okay, go listen to page seven being Jackie Zabrowski, which Henry is going to be guesting on here in the next few weeks And I'll be fabulous on it Welcome to the slumber party But ohm shinrikyo was like the super super weird version of that But everybody knew them because they were in newspapers. He was always on television Because you'd brought you've brought on as a gag
Starting point is 00:43:01 But Scientologists just want to make great hollywood movies. They don't want to they don't want to invest in nuclear weaponry Well, they do want to make a gang of the straightest men who've ever been straight. That's right So one particular land dispute as the ohm shinrikyo cult was moving into the town of matsumoto It's about a town of about like 200,000 That would not end in a lawsuit as they usually did but in mass murder now ohm Seeking to murder the three judges that were about to rule against them in this land dispute case Ohm brought back their old car exhaust plan that they borrowed from the CIA But they now had gas that actually worked and they knew that it worked and the attack from the beginning
Starting point is 00:43:49 Bit of a comedy of errors kind of seemed destined to fail First the head of the operation overslept on the big day Oh, I gotta wake up. Normally the rat that nibbles on my toes does this a lot earlier. What's going on? Maybe I woke up early. It's 12 30 He's putting on sunglasses See the bus pull away In the van that they were gonna use They had to load it up in order to do these gas attacks
Starting point is 00:44:29 They needed hundreds of pounds of equipment and they also had five cultists in this van And because they had so much weight in it, they couldn't muster enough power to go over 30 miles per hour It is funny But the thing about this these bumbling assholes with this big junky van that's all it it is filled with toxic gas That if they fuck up like even they would have been way more dangerous if they just fucked up Hit something and then that would have killed everybody literally thousands of people would have been dead Terrifying to think about oh no Well, they had to wait until they got there
Starting point is 00:45:08 They had to do a chemical reaction once they got air and that was another comedy That was another error that they made so the cultists finally arrived in Matsumoto around 9 p.m And they picked a supermarket parking lot as the perfect spot to hit the judge's dormitory because of course They're depending on seren gas and chemical warfare and all this it all depends on the wind direction Like that's what if you want it to go a certain way Then you've got to release it from a certain location get fans That would work But when they started the chemical reaction they botched the formula and their van filled with a thick white smoke
Starting point is 00:45:47 Hydrogen chloride Oh my god in addition to release the releasing the deadly gas and in fact like one like junior hide kid That was taken out the trash next to the supermarket. He said they he saw that van He just saw it suddenly fill up with gassy. He said he heard a lot of muffled voices from inside You know what i'm doing i don't even know what i'm doing i'm walking in the morning and i'm gonna be all right Since they read comes running out of the room Oh guys So the thing is about the wind direction is if the wind was I think it was say the wind was blowing from the east
Starting point is 00:46:24 They would have parked on one side of the dormitory where the judges were staying If it was blowing front and they would would be able to just get the judges dormitory and that's all But since it was blowing from the west they had to park in this supermarket parking lot and the saring gas Would have to pass through an apartment block full of hundreds of people They and they you know what they said that bucket. They're all the these are all just casualties and a greater war We're releasing them. We're doing good for that. We're releasing them We're doing good for them, but luckily for all those people the wind changed direction at the last minute as they were Releasing the gas the wind changed direction
Starting point is 00:47:04 To a less much less populated area eight people still died. Oh and another hundred and fifty Suffered serious neurological injuries, but it could have been so much worse either way though The plan actually work the judges were among the injured and ohm got out of the lawsuit and emboldened by a somewhat successful military action Asahara decided it was finally time to start training ground troops. Yeah, you go I can't stop thinking about you know the sarin gas going through an apartment building and then the apartment building just filling with shit I Think we got him
Starting point is 00:47:45 Now as far as the ground troops go Asahara's first idea was to father a squadron of children with his more commonly followers and raise them as a team of Child assassins playing the long game. Well, well, that's the problem. Well Armageddon Time sensitive coming up real fast because that wasn't a workable plan because what he's doing now is again He's ramping up the speech. We got to figure out. We got a we got to give ourselves a timeline here He's like 1997 that's when the end times are coming We got ramp up to 97 and he was like literally doing this so while he was for a while He was fucking I'm trying to put babies in him
Starting point is 00:48:20 Yeah, and he was and he got this plan around like 1990 and when I say he wanted a squadron of children I mean like literally five six seven year old kids Yes, so if Armageddon was in 1997 then they're all gonna be good baked and ready to go by the time it comes yeah And all you got to do again What you got to do with these kids you put bombs in their shoes you teach them how to do bows and arrows or yeah And you just toss them at people. It was a suicide bomber ninjas. No, he was training child ninjas Oh children can't be quiet What happens right again a child to run across a bunch of rice paper and see what happens kidding me
Starting point is 00:48:55 So, but that's the problem is that Armageddon kept getting moved up And so by the time Armageddon was coming in 1995 Asahara opted to train his own paramilitary force made up of current and former members of Japan's first Airborne division that he called the soldiers of white love now. Remember the rest I mean, look he's doing that is such a fucking acid name That's what a fucking general with the head full because that's what they always say in the six It's like man if we had like poet warriors If we had all we need all we got to do is put a rose in the in the barrel of every shotgun
Starting point is 00:49:41 All we got to do is like man if we got general Westmoreland some acid the man Vietnam would be a stone groove me Well, just warned general Westmoreland just takes a tap of acid. He's like we got to make the guns bigger That's the problem. They got to be bigger. We'll paint stripes on the guns And that's as he's eating a cereal out of the bowl of a Vietnamese boy No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no because their skin makes it salty at Westmoreland was a psychopath Yeah, he was eating it out of the boys. I'm sure he had a boy skull that he ate breakfast Oh, I see him. Yeah, you put a couple of expanders in a butthole Cereal in there technically cereals only the serving of cereals only three-fourths of a cup
Starting point is 00:50:26 Something really. Yeah, I didn't know that so boot camp for the soldiers of white love began in the summer of 1994 and their actual their training ideas actually pretty novel the most novel one came when Osahara hired a bunch of homeless dudes from Tokyo and told them that they were going to be extras in a movie called Soldiers of white love, but they were actually just used as stand-ins for the military resistance that the white lovers were sure to face If you're homeless, that's a hell of a gig That's not bad Second yeah, absolutely, but they get out to the countryside. There's no cameras They never wanted to be in the movie the first place
Starting point is 00:51:08 They just couldn't believe someone was asking them to do something point to a tree and tell them it's a camera I'm gonna pay you to guard this tree. Yep. All right, tree still safe. Just Joe homeless out here. Yeah, so is it right about dookie next to it? You may haha, you are saying I'm a hot song. You're my new best friend, but also my new worst enemy Can you go find more quiet homeless? Just put this box on my head. I can't hear myself. You can hear me So the squad trained from 8 a.m. till midnight every day with weightlifting martial arts and Chinese style chi exercises and in fact one admiring member described them as quote
Starting point is 00:51:49 Deeply trained with highly developed muscles. Yeah, I couldn't help but notice how good and strong your muscles I don't know if you maybe see how I developed tomorrow up here in the back of my shirt It's as much because I'm a furniture during the day. I'm Charles. Are you Charles in yeah? Yeah, yeah, how'd you know famous serial killer? Yeah, okay? You guys are serious. Why is everybody so serious on it's a suicide car for the end of the world No, no, no, no good copy. We got raffer a bit. You got rex get it rex. Okay, there is it All right. Why does the wear risk? Why does it wear risk?
Starting point is 00:52:24 Rack a Tupperware. Why does the walrus like Tupperware? She's always looking for a tight sear Why nobody raff? Why nobody raff? Well, I know I don't know what I bring to Emshaw Reekin. It's kind of a serious time Nobody knows. Everybody's there. Everybody Everybody always judge than me. I should not judge myself and I'm dry here and check on the grand Maybe not the right time Charles So all this was in preparation for what Osahara called X-Day in which the white lovers all hopped up on sarin antidote would seize the government following the great Helicopter sarin attack and with the government and chaos ohm would stage a coup
Starting point is 00:53:12 Establish establish what they called the supreme state and play Shoko Osahara at its home with the title of Holy Monk Emperor fuck yes, that is what if I ever have a production company if I'm ever executive producer again That is what people are calling the Holy Monk Empire. Yes, or Emperor Yeah, and I'll everywhere in soft white slippers and nothing else. That's good But followers they were warned in the ramp up to Armageddon They were of course warned Armageddon was gonna get a little heavy See the white lovers and the sarin attacks were just the beginning Osahara claimed to have plasma cannons so solar weapons and vaporization bombs all in
Starting point is 00:53:57 Production and there's actually some of it that it's not too far off in their travels to Russia So Hiawaka was meeting with prominent Russian scientists for help on the Colts laser research Osahara was obsessed with having a laser weapon. He was obsessed with Nikola Tesla Yeah, he really he wanted to harness the what Tesla said that he could make was a wall of energy that will destroy all humankind Which is intense He didn't get funding But they legitimately met with a a man named Nikolai Basov He's a Nobel Prize winner for his research on laser technology and from these efforts
Starting point is 00:54:33 Ohm was able to acquire or design various blueprints of imagined laser weapons and And the head science officer Marais attempt to achieve what the guru ordered led to some kind of laser test Yeah, in October 1994 that was witness by people something with children of the 80s and early 90s They loved lasers lasers was it for them? Well, that's what you think about because he wanted to be an animated guy Yeah, he wanted a whole thing to be an anime. He legitimately looked around being like we need Mech warriors like yes, I know but then we have to raise children that are essentially artificial intelligence Designed like human cyborgs that will feed into the mech warriors in order to create a union between man and machine
Starting point is 00:55:18 That will not be like the union between God and man. Hello, Evan Gillian Yeah, and one of them is gonna be a super annoying German redhead that's gonna ruin the whole show for you great Think she ruined it. Oh, she is awful. I love it. My it's the only anime I watched but that's what he wanted Actually if he was an author this would be wonderful But that's what we're talking about he made his fiction his life right like he was at like he was I mean You might say he was a bit of a performance artist. Also, it's kind of inspiring It's kind of that thing of being like go do it You want to be right now?
Starting point is 00:56:01 We have a lot of people out there that listen to this show that are professional illustrators They're like they want to be professional illustrators sure people don't want to do you want to write books Whatever you want to do don't dream it be it. That's what that's what also horror should have said Yeah, that's what Josh Rogers who does a lot of art for it's Josh. You can do you is doing it I know you're Canadian, but you can still do it You are poultry of spirit because of your country, but you can be like an American and do it or a Japanese person sure So what also horror was telling people is like yeah Armageddon's gonna get happy we've got plasma weapons We've got laser cannons, but listen up. I've given you all the tools that you're gonna need to survive
Starting point is 00:56:43 Those who had reached enlightenment in the cult were blessed with unusually high plasma fields So the plasma cannons would only add to their power. Oh Easy he also there was a part of also all machine rickio's design Is that they they attract a lot of doctors? Yeah, and they did all and they and they said that these meditation techniques Which is really interesting here that they had the doctors for the for the after Armageddon They would be able to take care of everybody and this whole idea being like we got plenty of doctors So we don't have to worry about anything once the end times come right and also they believed that the Because the vaporation the vaporization bombs that removed all oxygen in the air were fine because ohm followers already knew shallow
Starting point is 00:57:26 Breathing techniques through their meditation sessions so they could hold their breath until the effects pass. Yeah, that's brilliant Yeah, it's not like vaporization bombs actually suck the air out of your lungs or anything like that Yeah, and as far as those solar cannons went the ones that focus star power to melt everything in their path Those boiling baths. Whoo. That's what that was for enhanced. Oh, I see enhanced heat resistance Yeah, it's like great. It's like when you boil a cabasa Up on the stove sure sure. I think that's how that is Well, I believe them. Yeah, and unfortunately, you know during all this nuclear war the world's food supply would almost certainly be destroyed But ohm followers they could survive that just by opening their chakras and lowering their metabolism
Starting point is 00:58:14 Until the world could be returned to its previous glory and if that doesn't work You can just cut off your fucking feet and eat them eat them. It's so simple your food. We're just good How would anyone doubt this? See, I mean this is common among any religion any and every religion that has Armageddon weaved into Into their belief system They're always told that they're the only ones that are gonna survive the coming slaughter and only their figurehead has all the answers To live through it. It's every single religion that has because it makes them feel special That's what keeps them there. That's what keeps them hooked is this bullshit Armageddon
Starting point is 00:58:52 Nightmare and that's just the positive side of it. It's also a but the truth is that it's a vague threat as well It's the same thing as the oh, it's not vague It is very it's a threat of just being also being like and if you leave you'll die and maybe they won't kill you But I'll kill you. Yeah, and then and then also it's it's an abusive relationship technique It's doing the thing that no one will love you like I love you kind of shit. I just 27 sheep 29 Speaking of the abusive
Starting point is 00:59:23 Relationship is that I read the story of this one woman who had to go through this thing called like the bardo Initiation because Om Shinrikyo the worst thing that you could do was deny the guru's love and they actually had a Like they had a team of people that would bring Escapies back they called them the new followers group and people who would escape again and again They put them through this thing called they called the bardo initiation where they would meet the Lord of Hell Yeah, yeah, yeah, they called they called him. Mr. Lord of Hell You always should yeah, Mr. Lord of Hell. Yes, Mr. Lord. Yeah, and it was an Initiation which you know they'd bring people in they'd sit them in this tiny room and a TV screen would come on and it would start with like
Starting point is 01:00:07 Osahara cartoon or no, actually it would start with like a faces of death style video where it just showed people getting shot to death It showed them getting you know these like blood on the pavement style car accident And then a voice that the osahara's voice to start saying everybody dies Everybody will meet their end and then it would start showing osahara cartoons. Oh, yeah, and it would start showing I literally would just be sitting there going like fucking metal man. I don't think that he would want your love though Can you please get the man who tries to milk me every day out of here? You'd be the only one who gets kicked out of the cult because you annoyed the man so much I'm sorry miss. I'm surprise Kisan, but you are far too gnarly for own chenrick. Yeah
Starting point is 01:00:56 Oh, they also had a head full acid this yeah, but then a guy would come out like a devil costume Yeah, he got into devil costume. He'd have a huge drum He'd have a huge drum and the other thing about om Shinrikyo a lot like Scientology is that they would do confessions Where they would tell people about every bad thing that they'd ever done in their life when they were inducted into the group Scientology method as well. Yeah. Yeah, so they have these guys that this guy that would come out with this big drum And he'd just he would recite their confession every single thing that they ever said every bad thing they'd ever done And he'd keep beating the drum faster and faster and faster never never tell him anything I was in Catholic school. They wanted me to go confess to this disgusting priest. I didn't tell him nothing
Starting point is 01:01:41 Yeah, cuz all of them he's sucking on a pink fucking icicle like a Good way to freak people out with a head full acid this is your situation dresses the devil do the thumb trick And then after that they would force the the people to get into the lotus position And they would bound their legs with a rope They would hang up their hands behind their back And then they would bend them into the most painful position possible And then a guy would come in with a big stick and he just start beating on the walls and on the floor So that just sounds like DD DDP yoga
Starting point is 01:02:34 Yeah, something like that Yeah, and then finally after anywhere from 14 hours to three days one guy went through this ritual They were put in a prison They put them in like these tiny little rail cars with a ton of other people and they would be these hot metal These hot metal boxes and it was like, you know that temperature over a hundred degrees and not only that but they would pump hot steam Into these into these containers and all you had all the only privacy they had is that you could go hang out next to the shit Bucket because nobody wanted to hang out next to the shit bucket and that was the closest thing And that's the thing is that we're talking about this is you know this abusive relationship is that this woman
Starting point is 01:03:29 Even after she went through the bardo ritual. That was like the third time she escaped even after she went through the bardo ritual She escaped she came back on her own volition because she couldn't get the thought of Asahara sending her to hell out of her head. She just couldn't get it out. I mean, they're mentally ill people How does one actually know they're not they are absolutely this woman sounds like absolutely not that is insulting That is very insulting to abuse victims. That is they are absolutely abuse No, they are I'm shinrikyo cultists. No cultists are not mentally ill people I think that is a very very common mistake and I think that is a very dangerous mistake to make That under that underestimates the cult they are broken people. Yes, they're grieving people, but they are not mentally ill
Starting point is 01:04:16 Yes, but they are absolutely The problem is is that it's mostly when you put yourself in a set of circumstances when you have given up so much control the idea that you were Ever wrong about that is very embarrassing and very hard to come back. Yeah, right Exactly when you have so fully subjugated yourself to someone else in order to then believe it You were wrong the entire time means that you essentially gave up years of your life and the shame and the grief Associated with that causes people to stick by these beliefs for a really long time because basically she in order for her to Disbelieve that Asahara is real then she has to then also take into her mind that she was wrong Yeah, that she went through the barter of thing for no reason
Starting point is 01:04:57 Yeah, and not only that but she brought you know, she had a family there as well You know, so it not only is she wrong, but she has also wasted her children's life She's put her children through all of this the whole belief system is is in shambles. They are deeply flawed Yeah, everybody involved in this whole thing is just flawed and fuck. Well, yeah, they're trying to murder thousands of millions of people That's the thing. Yeah, but that's a big but that's a day is that this woman This woman had no idea that any of that was no no she was actually it was actually sadder on her end Yeah, because she wasn't a part of the big nefarious world domination plans if she was a part of that I understand why the rest of them were creepily like the 10% that were creepily devoted to Asahara
Starting point is 01:05:36 I know why they are because they are also being like we'll get a cut of the pie We're gonna be part of the winning 10% like he'll be he'll include us in the end the celebration celebration party Yeah, but everyone else was expendable. Yeah, Destro's all about Cobra commander getting to the top because he thinks he'll be able to hang out Yeah, in the conference room. We didn't say Cobra commander's probably gonna fucking blow his brains out. Yeah, exactly so Are we sure about the exactly? So by the end of 1994 home supreme truth would have over 40,000 followers and over 30 branches in at least six countries their weapons stockpile had reached
Starting point is 01:06:15 Super villain proportions and the connections they had made Extended all the way to the yakuza if you don't know the kyuza is they are a worldwide Criminal enterprise filled with the baddest motherfuckers. Japan has to like the mafia times 10 Yeah, and in Japan they're incredibly important because they're fully involved in business and I'm certain that what it comes down to it is that like what we have here is that they do have a concrete connection because the Kiyori Nakata the high-level yakuza master joined Olmstern Rikio after a fatal liver disease diagnosis was supposedly reversed by miracles Worked by the cult right but also there in but a part of it, too is that they Because they were involved in big business
Starting point is 01:06:55 They could not they could not be involved in big business without being involved with the yakuza So at some point your q's the members are gonna show up and be like so what's this operation like we know everything that you have We know that you got this helicopter, you know, so what are you doing? You have to cut us into it Yeah, but that also tells you another thing about ohm Is that the first time the yakuza went and talked to Olmstern Rikio? Sent these bad motherfuckers out there the Olm members beat the fuck out of them like they act they went against the yakuza And they won so Asahara and Olmstern Rikio actually did have so because the the the soldiers of white love these guys were
Starting point is 01:07:34 They were members of Japan's elite defense board They were mercenaries. Yeah, they were also mercenaries. They were no, but they were hired They were hired goons. No, they weren't they were people that were in the military that Voluntarily became a part of on Shimuri Rikio and veterans as well. These are people they were not hire goons They were people that joined Asahara voluntarily Because they believed in him That's not good
Starting point is 01:08:02 Hey, you got to believe in something. I'm so glad all this is in the past It's not like there's an organization called Isis that's almost exactly like home we made them and we'll turn them off and turn them on every time We want Second time it's come up, but I can't even get into it So it's through this man that ohm this guy kiyode Nakata it was through this man that ohm would finally have the connections to the underworld that they would need to procure small arms as the AK-47 factory not surprisingly a little slow going. Yeah. Yeah to build a thousand AK-47s From scratch. It's hard for someone to get one of those like weird embroidery Etsy things going never mind a fucking AK-47
Starting point is 01:08:46 Factory, why didn't they just stop by a Walmart when they were in Florida? I mean, there's so many damn guys. I just don't really understand the problem So over the course of four deals Nakata secured 18 handguns for the ohm cult Which is a big deal in a country with as strict a gun laws as Japan has they have ridiculously strict gun laws But perhaps more impressively than that Nakata was also able to secure 20 hand grenades from a shady Chinese gang They seem like fairly petty deals though considering they got a helicopter from the Russians. Yeah, they do they have a helicopter You know, they have all these chemical weapons, but they're trying real hard to get these ground troops trained. Yeah, so
Starting point is 01:09:28 Nakata also introduced ohm through the Yakuza to the wonders of insurance fraud. See, we've seen a lot of people who've seen a lot of Chinese guns They've seen a lot of guns and they've seen a lot of guns and they've seen a lot of guns and they've seen a lot of guns and they've seen a lot of guns and They've seen a lot of guns and they've seen a lot of guns and they've seen a lot of guns and they've seen a lot of guns and they've seen a lot They in fact also introduced ohm through the Yakuza to the wonders of insurance fraud See when an ohm member joined the cult and signed away all their assets that of course included any and all life insurance Policies that the initiates may have had and after that it wasn't hard to make accidents happen around the compound just they just made their own hospitals yeah there's a lot of things that I'm
Starting point is 01:10:10 like mash I like you know yeah I love farmers markets right I like you know farm-to-table stuff I like indie things like a man here CCR we are 100% DIY like we are the like we're the fucking DIY network man we fucking love DIY I could use things to not be DIY is a hospital yeah you take care of that you build that right I don't want you if you couldn't make it as a stand-up and then you decide oh I want to be a doctor and now I'm a doctor that's not how that's gonna that's illegal yeah and ohm also made a pretty penny selling drugs to the Yakuza even though their product was known as the worst shit on the market
Starting point is 01:10:48 except for their acid see their acid was fucking great but acid never really caught on in Japan come think about how good anime would have been oh my yeah that's interesting that it didn't catch on in Japan it's video games they're already they're very creative yeah they're they're already a creative people yeah they kind of they had their own kind of version of the 60s and they created some amazing psychedelic music but they kind of did it without drugs they're already they're on the level man well they had a 1960s I mean I mean like we all did every one of the world yeah when you think literally as you do but
Starting point is 01:11:21 come on man I'm thinking in the psychedelic realm talk about music I'm talking about a movement man with the feeling yeah like you don't even know doctor buzz doctor buzz oh man well you know what you need to do man is put cannabis oil in your shoes man because you're too groovy to be sick man I'm looking I got I think I got 102 temperature man that's just your fucking prerogative dude it's your fucking journey but you know the acid it was the great acid was great but you know they were also making PCP they were also making meth but everyone like the Yakuza and all the drug years is
Starting point is 01:11:58 they called it ohm stuff because it was super dirt how do they mess up math and math you get it was super dirty super impure like yeah you seem breaking bad like you know how cranson stuff is like the purish around made seren gas yeah but you mess up man because they were focusing on the seren gas the meth was just like a side project I just do what you love yeah you know I mean follow your heart that's right yeah nevertheless by the end of 1994 ohm was operating what many believe was the largest underground drug manufacturing operation in the entire world yikes and nicotta was also in the process of negotiating the
Starting point is 01:12:39 hiring of several Yakuza members to fight alongside the white lovers when x-day finally came but fortunately for the people of Japan ohm would make a mistake that would finally give Japanese cops the concrete excuse they've been looking for and her room again would have to come early that's the thing that's really scary is that her room again and can always come early like that why is that true her room again could come in like the next hour all right I'm sure you know part 3 amazing good stuff at this I mean this stuff is really like this is what like this episode is when you really see ohm
Starting point is 01:13:16 shinrikyo for not just like the weird heaven's gate jones town wake oak type of cult you know you see these guys for the true terroristic threat that they actually are and I really I truly do believe that you can compare ohm shinrikyo was like the the precursor to ISIS to people like that well you said to these death cults ISIS just got a hold of the weapons if ohm shinrikyo would have got a hold of the weapons they could have become an ISIS they could have become that sort of threat truly becoming a war like an actual enemy war the machine it's very interesting you look at it
Starting point is 01:13:55 and you're just really the more I read about it is that they just how dangerous they were right and just how big it got the internet without the internet and also because the government did not interview and interfere whatsoever they were getting checked at all and so they were just doing all this shit and I can imagine can you imagine being the Japanese police finally showing up like once the whole thing said and done and then looking at the mean like holy fuck we should have gotten on this a lot earlier guys well the Japanese police that was their whole thing is that they kept saying like well that's like when
Starting point is 01:14:27 someone would go missing because other weird because dozens of people would go missing and they and the people would say like the families are like hey listen I think this ohm shinrikyo people fucking get that didn't kill my daughter and the Japanese police is like that's interesting but it's not concrete enough we need evidence yeah we like they needed hard evidence that's what they said is that they wouldn't because also like they were kind of in business they were in business with the yakuza as well and the yakuza kind of an act as an unofficial police force in Japan if something happens like if they were if
Starting point is 01:15:00 it was really fucked up yakuza would stop it yeah and I'm certain that the yakuza was getting them weapons and stuff but kind of just considering them another gang yeah I'm certain they're looking at these guys and kind of be like we'll get them weapons and shit but we are probably only get them only 20 weapons because we have all the rest of the weapons and we ever need to fucking kill these people we need to make sure we can kill them probably not really knowing that they were they had fucking 70 tons of sarin gas that they were trying to make absolutely not no they were just another gang and one that was
Starting point is 01:15:27 making the yakuza money don't trust anybody on motorcycles except for my dad my dad was cool on motorcycles well he wasn't I'm sure he wasn't on a yakuza type more motorcycle what are those called the fast ones the crotch rockets the crotch rockets yeah don't trust them now but a dude on a hog yeah trust him yeah I mean you could sort of trust it not with your another grown male you can trust them don't ever trust him if you're a young young man or woman or a woman or go you know go read Hell's Angels by Hunter S. Thompson you might not trust a guy on a hog all day anyone actually don't ever trust yeah
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