Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 239: Billy Meier - Alien Collaborator
Episode Date: September 7, 2016It's a return to aliens this week as we cover the one-armed Swiss supposed alien contactee Billy Meier, who claims that he is the sole connection between the humans and a mysterious race known as the ...Plejarens in addition to his many, many detractors. Lithium Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Secret of Tiki Island Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License cre
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There's no place to escape to.
This is the last talk.
On the left.
That's when the cannibalism started.
What was that?
How are you?
Oh, that's good.
That's nice and loud.
I don't mean to be preoccupied with smells.
I think a lot of the times in these episodes, they bring up how people smell, and it's
a good thing, and my Jackie and I are both like, we try to be pleasant smelling.
No, you don't try to be pleasant smelling.
I am very pleasant smelling.
I'm covered in many liniments and fine creams, all of them are powders and creams and sprays.
But imagining the inside of Billy Meyers arm flap, like what that smells like in that
weird Swedish household where the European standards are washing each other.
Yes, all right.
Welcome to the last podcast on the left, everyone.
I am Ben Kissel.
That's Marcus Parks.
Henry, you are way up in aliens' ass right now.
Oh my God.
I'm lost.
I am very much so lost.
Today we're discussing the case of Billy Meyers and his many years of contact with the Pledgearans.
You know them as the Pleiadians.
Actually, I think you know them as the Pleiadians.
I hate this shit.
Get ready.
Get your nerd alerts out.
There's going to be a lot of them.
I was reading over the script that Marcus sent and looking over some information on the
internet about Billy Meyers, and my brain has gotten smaller.
There are holes in it.
I am fully confused, and I'm excited to start this episode so we can learn about the tale
of Billy Meyers.
Many people in the UFO community hate this man because they believe he's a disinfo agent.
Absolutely.
You could say the story of Billy Meyers is kind of like a Polish butterfly net.
What the hell does that look like?
Big holes there.
Oh, I see.
All right.
Let's start the story of Billy Meyers.
So, Edward Billy Meyers is a one-armed Swiss UFO collaborator who claims that he...
Thank you for using the term collaborator, by the way.
Yeah.
He's a collaborator.
He claims that he is the sole contactee of a race of aliens from the planet Aera.
That race is known as the Pleiaren, and that is, he does make sure that you must say Pleiaren.
It's not Pleiaren.
It's not Pleiadian.
It's Pleiaren.
But now, there is a J in the name.
Yes, but it's Swedish or Swiss, whatever he is.
He's Swiss.
And they say he's a Pleiadian.
So, this guy is sort of the Ikea of UFO thinkers and that everything that he touches falls
apart.
Yeah, it took 40 years to build.
He has been the recipient of photographs, metal samples, and sound recordings of and
from Pleiaren spaceships.
Over the last 74 years, Billy has had 1,209 personal contacts and 1,241 telepathic contacts
with Pleiaren extraterrestrials, in addition to extraterrestrials from other planets in
the Pleiaren Federation, including the Lyrans and the vegans from Vega.
Ah, the vegans from Vega just won't shut up.
It's just been like, we know you're from Vega.
It just sounds like the world's worst strip club.
Vegans from Vega.
That's how you know.
It's like, don't worry.
You don't have to worry about finding out who's from Vega.
They'll tell you.
It's a vegan joke.
That's it.
That's it.
The gin is dry and so is their pussy.
Yes.
Is that a good strip?
That's a good strip and all of the cakes are made out of dates.
Weird.
Yeah.
And that name, Billy.
Billy is not his real name.
His real name is Edward.
Billy is a nickname.
Spelled in the weird Swiss way, Edward.
Edward.
Yeah.
Billy is a nickname that was given to him when he was younger by an American who was
almost certainly making fun of him, as young Billy was prone to dressing as an Old West
cowboy most of the time.
A loser.
Billy the Kid.
And there's a problem also.
He was really into Wild Bill.
That's what he said, he viewed him as a sort of idol.
So literally his heroes were liars and thieves and he named himself after them.
Yes.
And he was a very, he's a weird spotty past.
He believed that he was the only person chosen by the Plyarans to speak to the planet Earth.
We're going to go into all of this.
It's maybe not real.
You know what?
And it breaks my heart.
I am standing here right now in front of you, nude.
And I'm going to say that I want to build, I am currently in belief of Billy.
I believe all victims and I believe Billy Meyer is a victim of the Plyarans.
He may very well be victims of several old men in a field that all look like Santa Claus
that all wanted to tell him how he was a special little boy.
Right.
Giving him strange gifts.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
His first contact with the Plyarin came when he was just a five year old boy in the Swiss
countryside when he was visited in the middle of the night by an old extraterrestrial Plyarin
humanoid named Svoth.
Svoth.
It's important to put all the, all of the letters together in Swiss.
How do you spell?
Can you just, can we?
S?
F.
As in father.
A is in automatic.
T is in twank and H is in heith.
I don't think twank is a word.
Oh, you've never, you'll, when you meet one, you'll know.
Okay.
So Svoth eventually told Billy that he was the seventh incarnation of the prophet that
connects earth to the Plyarin people, starting with a guy named Hainak around 11,000 years
ago continuing on through Jesus, a.k.a. Emmanuel, who we'll get to later, and Muhammad before
finally settling on a five year old Swedish boy.
Never tell the Swedish boy you're settling.
No, it's sad.
You know what I mean?
Just say, like, of course you'd want a Swedish boy.
He's got an apple bottom.
He's got pudgy knees, pudgy knees, big eyes to see everything in a tiny mouth that's not
as easy to reveal secrets.
I feel like you are going into a Stephen King level of, you know, of information.
Oh, we'll talk about this.
I just finished re-reading Stephen King's it.
There is a five page, six, ten year old fucking orgy in a book where the girl describes the
penis of each one of the boys and then they come in her.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know where Stone's JFK is sexy, but with children, but with children.
But Marcus, I do want to ask, what did this look like when when Billy Meyer met with Sveth?
So I just thought what did it?
What did that actually look like?
Was that telepathic?
I can describe it.
So he was out by the lake with his father.
He was five years old.
He said he received a special feeling inside of himself that said he needed to look towards
the sky.
This is he.
This is his fucking Swedish boys.
He looked up a craft darted across the sky, a traditional disc shape form.
From that day forth, he saw lights moving around in the sky.
He was fascinated with the sky.
So eventually, one night in the middle of the night, he is awoken by a sensation, which
you hear a lot in alien abductee stories, where they say that they want to go outside
for some reason.
He goes outside.
There is a glowing pear in the sky that comes around like a fruit, like a fruit, yes.
Or like Dom Deleuze's body.
Oh, I see.
Love that.
Oh, my goodness.
Don't like him.
It landed.
An adult man with a full grown beard comes out, names Foth, and says, let us sit and speak.
And they speak to each other telepathically.
He tells young, not belly, Edouard at the time, that he is a special little boy that
was created by the Pledgearans in order to advance their work.
Fuck that.
They're from Pleiades, too.
That's the thing that I don't like about the story is that he needs to be specifically
specific so it sounds super real.
Right.
They all know it's the Pledgearans.
They say it's from the fucking Pledgearans.
They call it the Seven Sisters.
I heard it was the Pledgearans.
No, it's not.
I just hate it when they do that and they say it's like, no, it's actually Pleiarans
because that makes it more real when people say UFO instead of UFO.
It drives me nuts.
Right.
They get caught up in semantics.
That's not the truth.
Yes, I hate that shit.
And so, Foth told me, he was a special little boy, that there were actually four other little
boys that were created and that were supposed to serve this task, but he was the one five
year old that was chosen who said yes because the other ones, two of them died in a car
crash in one go.
That is true.
And then one is just somewhere.
How did they lose track of the one?
All right.
Okay.
So that's, okay.
Thank you for that backstory.
So that's how they met.
They were, and his poor father was just like, I don't think I got a good kid.
It's like, they got a, I am just glad that my son's got a brand new father.
So over the next 10 years, Spoth would communicate to Billy through electronically induced hypnosis.
He would communicate what Billy called, quote unquote, important data on many fields of
knowledge, including humanities, history, creation, facts, et cetera, which he would
need to learn and retain.
And Spoth told Billy that due to this process, by the time Billy was seven, he had the intellect
and emotional understanding of a 35 year old man.
And as I read that, as a 35 year old man, Billy's an idiot.
He is an idiot at seven and he's an idiot at 35.
Also it does seem like the reasoning of like why it was okay for Woody Allen to marry his
daughter.
Yes.
She had a mind of a 35 year old.
Yes.
So mature.
I've heard.
Also he's been spending all his time alone in a giant pear shaped glowing room with a
man looking like Santa Claus telling him special stuff about how he's a special boy.
He grew up fast, wink, wink, wink, wink, in a molest.
Yes, exactly.
I want to say a molest.
It sounds just perfect.
But we're also going to, well we left out a part of this in this little world of information.
I mean no more.
I was about to say please Henry fill in the fucking blanks on this one.
So one thing I will say is that he wrote an 1800 page series of documentation of all of
these visitations called the contact reports that he wrote over a period of time.
And we're going to get into when he was reached out to by Wendell Scott, who was a real UFO
researcher that got caught in fucking Billy Meyers fucking net, right, his Polish butterfly
man.
He knew a priest named Father Zimmerman.
He didn't want to tell his parents.
He knew a priest.
Lovely.
He knew a priest named Father Zimmerman.
He knew a priest named Father Zimmerman and he didn't want his parents to know about his
interactions with the priest and the other old man that he used to go meet in a field.
And so he went to this priest and told him there is a man speaking to me in my brain
named Spoth, who's telling me all this information about the earth and things that are going
to happen in the future.
And Father Zimmerman says, I understand what you're talking about.
That's called telepathy.
Don't tell anyone we're having these conversations.
And this is true.
He's like, but you have to understand that you're experiencing something very special.
You're a little boy.
Little boys.
You're a little boy.
So yeah, Henry is currently touching me just to make the effect really feel you little
boys.
Like you sometimes just like you can get physical telepathy because that just goes right up
inside your mind.
Don't touch me.
Oh my God.
Touch his elbows.
Ooh, you can get a little Swedish boy's fucking eyes big just do you with wetness staring
at this priest.
And he's like, yes, but there's also a thing called spiritual telepathy, which is a deeper
understanding.
And that's what you're you have to let this come.
Let it come inside.
And that's what he kept saying.
And Father Zimmerman like kind of opened up to him, said it was OK and explained to him
that he was being prepped by aliens as well to help Billy understand himself within the
storyline of the Pledge arms.
I gotta say this.
There is something about molesters.
They can find a way to get there.
You know, the kid came with a problem with aliens that could have cut that kid could
have come in and been like, I think I'm having too many sugary snacks at lunch.
She's like, we got to start working out and he can always come by my shack.
I have all these kettlebells.
Isn't that crazy?
It's also kind of like when you go on a date with like somebody and you have to pretend
to be interested in the fact that they felt like they were born to be a bluesman.
And you have to go like, yes, interesting.
That is interesting.
But they're always wrong.
Oh, yeah.
Her name, his name is like Brett.
He doesn't understand sadness.
Yeah.
If you're out there on a date, if you're a gal on a date with Brett right now, just,
you know, make sure he pays.
The other possible scenario is that Father Zimmerman and a fucking dude named Svoth,
I'm pretty certain Father Zimmerman's first name is George.
George?
Fucking Swedish version of him.
It sounds like a curler.
And I mentioned what happened is that Father Zimmerman tells him that it's okay to talk
to aliens and then you have another old man who's just coming out of a field with a cart
with a bunch of Christmas lights wrapped around it and it's fucking Maloss season.
And then Father Zimmerman winks at him and he's like, tell him you're the alien.
I'm the alien?
Yes, you're the alien.
Svoth, I love the roleplay.
Oh, I am as hard as a Gibraltar rock right now.
So Billy, because of all this type of stuff that's going on, all this telepathy, this
electronically induced hypnosis, he would eventually have the highest degree of spiritual
evolution of any human being on Earth.
And that is why Billy is the only person out of seven billion humans who is allowed to
speak to the play-arin, who's allowed to speak to them, who's allowed to see them, who's
allowed to communicate with them telepathically.
They will only communicate with the most highly evolved being on this planet for no other
reason I can figure out other than just a bunch of snobby dickheads.
Well, if you were-
Hold on, they're just a bunch of snobby dickheads.
Snobby dickheads.
I'm saying, yeah, they're fucking poly-arin.
They're all just a bunch of snobby dickheads.
Oh, I'm only going to talk to the most highly spiritually evolved being-
But they did that when they molested him to be that way.
They're talking to a dumpy Swissman who shits cheese.
I mean, how- this is not- they don't know how snobby they are.
They're going to choose it anyway!
They're not talking to me!
Well, that's because you're on your medication.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
They knew you would go on podcasts and they can't have all the information spread too
fast.
But he has said that to- apparently that's what they- they pull a jar and sl- actual-
You're going to correct me?
You want to correct him?
Correct him.
Play-ar, okay.
Correct the record.
We're- we're just telling the truth, Henry, you're getting it wrong and Marcus is correcting
the record.
It's like m- there's like veins moving into my eyeballs.
Yeah, that's good.
Um, I'm so- they say that they said that having too many speaking for the plejarans
all at once, I cannot say it.
You know, you have to- it's fine, it's the last time, so I'm not going to do it anymore.
We're just going to have to agree to disagree that you're poly-arian.
It's poly-arian.
Don't shake.
Um, but they- they said that having too many speakers all at once would do- it's too many
cooks would spoil the broth.
Ah.
And they also said that they- it takes time-
They use that analogy?
Yes.
They actually use that analogy.
They literally have it in the writing, they still like- as a term that you humans use
all the time, I've heard that sometimes too many cooks spoil a stew.
It's almost like it was written by a human being.
No way.
Now let's learn a little bit more about these play-ar and peoples.
They look much like us with minor anatomical differences that are never quite specified,
or ones that I've never actually- Henry, have you found out what those minor anatomical
differences are?
No, I think they just said that to him because it was all like- it's something to cover the
molesting.
I think they all look like Jennifer Love-Hewitt.
She does have an alien look about.
That's what I'm saying.
Light on the bottom, heavy on the top.
The female version that he's talking to, um, her name is Ascat, you're going to find
that later on after Spoth dies somehow for some fucking reason.
Ah, you're just giving away all the plot points!
You're giving away the plot points, it's Polarians.
So you need to get this right, Henry.
It's rare that I am the expert here, I'm taking over the mantle.
I'm sorry, this is how- this is how you win.
No, it's like when you go to Starbucks and not when they say large, and they- do you
mean vintage?
No, I'm in a larch!
I want the big one!
I literally- I just go in and I say the biggest one possible.
But at every restaurant I go to, I say give me the biggest thing of whatever I want.
And they're like, you are just so funny.
Oh, so that Ascat looks sort of like, do you remember in total recall when Arnold Schwarzenegger
is having sex with Sharon Stone, but she turns out to be evil, and then he chooses- he chooses
his like- like the woman that- his dream woman.
The Mars woman, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And it's what's her name?
The woman who's kind of square shaped?
I know exactly who you're talking about, I don't know her name.
What's her name?
Not Benicia Del Torra.
That's a man!
That's a- no, but it's the female version of the man.
Benicia Del Torra is the female of Benicia Del Torra.
Her name is like- I don't think that's how it works.
The one that goes two weeks.
That one?
The woman!
You know what, Marcus?
I want you to take control right now because-
She looks like a female version of the heart from the- from Captain Planet.
Oh, okay, that works.
Rachel Ticotin.
No!
Is anyone supposed to know that reference anyway?
Yeah, how's he supposed to know?
I know it's her own movie.
I'm just saying, it's a very- she's a very pan-ethnic looking woman.
It was the worst description I have ever heard in my life.
Well, besides them having those minor anatomical differences, they also live for about a thousand
years, have a population of about 120 billion spread across their Federation and are all
Nordic looking.
Well, apparently there are two types of- there are two universes that we exist in, the Dao
universe and the Dao universe, and both of which are filled with human-like creatures.
They're actually very few creatures that are not human-like because we all come from the
same base society from millions and millions of years ago, and we're all seed races.
So it's Dao and Dao?
Dao and Dao.
Dao and Dao?
Yes.
And what separates us from- from each other?
A fraction of a second.
A fraction of a second.
A fraction of a second.
A fraction of a second.
See, era, the play-ar and home world, is a fraction of a second shifted from our own
dimension.
See?
Yeah.
See?
Can you get it?
Like, they're just like a fraction of a second in the future, so therefore they're in a different
dimension.
You see how that works?
Butterfly effect.
Yes.
See?
I do believe- I do believe you misspoke though, it's polygerian.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So even though they're from a different dimension, the play-arons and earthlings descend from
a common ancestor.
Originally, there were 40,353,607 different human races in 343 different skin colors.
Tope.
Less than tope.
Right.
Onyx.
Mocha.
Ah, crusty underwear.
Argyle?
What?
Argyle.
Argyle?
Argyle is a pattern though.
Argyle?
No, I was thinking Argyle or Arugula.
Pistachio.
Thank you very much.
It's called pistachio.
Oh, and just so you know, apes actually descend from human beings, not the other way around,
although Billy Mayer never really actually gets into how that actually happened.
So then apes would be more advanced than us, theoretically, right?
Not necessarily.
No.
Ladder.
Fraction of a second.
I don't know.
I believe this man.
The problem with all of this is Billy never really goes into detail.
I don't think it's because it's a whole horseshit.
No way.
It's difficult.
No, I believe Billy.
Well, he goes in a high detail about the conversations that he has about, say, spirituality, the universal
teachings of spirit that they talk about.
They say the teachings of the spirit.
That's why they're here.
They're here to tell us all about how we can become higher beings and like neutralize the
negative effects of like religion, you know, even though, you know, their main contacts
in the last 2000 years have been Jesus and Muhammad, they're still like, no, no, no.
Organized religion is bad.
There are ways that we can get towards the center of the universe of love together, having
fun with plurins.
With plurins.
I'm wondering.
It's clear as day.
No, I actually kind of love it because he wants to take the violence out of religion,
which is really the major problem that all of us have with organized religion.
It gets corrupted and used by governments to kill one another.
There's my question though.
I have a question.
Did he ever actually pivot and try to become sort of a cult leader type or was he just,
did he never have enough?
No, you don't.
This is the end of the story is that Michael Horn, his PR man that comes on later online
who does all his website design, he does they fly.com.
This is my question.
If the plajoran keep making profits that make horrible religions, why do they keep doing
that?
I don't know.
They're there.
You know, they you just got to go back and fix what you broke.
Do you think they that's literally the definition of an insanity?
Actually they can go back and fix what I mean.
They can time travel too.
But they can do whatever they want.
There's the pictures of pterodactyls.
So let's come back to young Billy Meyer and Spoth who went on many a magical adventure
together.
Henry, do you have any examples of the many magical adventures that young Billy and Spoth
went on?
Henry looks thoroughly exhausted already.
It really does make me sad because I love UFOs.
I believe in UFOs.
I think there's a lot of stuff out there to support contact from aliens.
I think that abductee stories are real.
Billy Meyer takes away from it.
But the thing is, I just think Billy Meyer spent 10 years get molested in a Swedish
shack.
No.
Buy a man dressed as Santa Claus.
No.
You don't remember that story where they went and met Gandhi?
No.
They did.
They went and they met Gandhi.
Uh huh.
What did Gandhi say to them?
He said, oh, bring me a sandwich.
That's where we get those, the show is a little racist.
No.
No.
That's not racist.
King'sley was a white man who played Gandhi in a film and he won an Oscar for it.
And Gandhi was hungry much of the time.
Bring me a sandwich, maybe a pizza.
Thank you.
Sounds a little bit like end Jamaican.
Everything always ends up in Jamaica.
But he saw Gandhi.
He met the king of Egypt who was very tall.
He was molested about a thousand times and he went and learned weather stripping.
He met Saddam Hussein.
He did.
They met each other when they were 22 years old and Saddam Hussein said that he was a
thug at the time and he was a part of a bunch of roving gangs.
He was kind of like in West Side Story and he was Danny Zuko.
Oh, cool.
I love a young Saddam.
Handsomeness.
That's great as well.
That's great.
Yeah.
So unfortunately, Spoth reached Billy at the end of his thousand odd years and the old
alien died in 1953.
And Billy, now a teenager, then came under the care of a young humanoid woman from the
doll system named Asket, multi-ethnic Asket.
Like the chick from Total Recall.
What's her name?
She looks like a well-known-
Rachel Tickerton.
Rachel Tickerton.
Rachel Tickerton.
I think it was, like, it's Ascara de la Hoya.
It's like the female version of a male name.
Ascara de la Hoya.
No, her name's like Sara Aranya.
No, it's totally Rachel Tickerton.
It's just Rachel.
We found the name.
Maria de la Juente.
I'm staring at her right now.
Her IMDB calls her one tough cookie who can hold her own.
She wrote that.
She did not.
She's a great actress.
Asket also just sort of looks like a woman that worked at a record store.
She's like a little too cool.
So now this is a real woman, though.
We can-
No.
No, she's not real.
In our sense of real.
In our sense.
In Billy Meyers' sense, she is real.
She is the guide.
She is his contact between the Plyarans and Billy himself.
So it's a make-up.
So if he's on a date with her, there's no one sitting across from him.
Yeah, we'd see her, but she just, you know-
She's kind of there in the way that your grandfather's always looking out for you.
You know what I mean?
I just don't even understand.
Like even from heaven, he's looking out for you.
No, she is a physical being.
I can touch her.
You could touch her.
Okay, I could shake her hand and say, good to meet you.
I am Ben.
Of course.
Yeah, yeah, you absolutely could.
These people do exist.
Okay.
However, they do not have any contact with any of us.
Because we're not worthy because we're not one of the most evolved human beings on the
face of the planet.
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
And it also, it's kind of weird that, you know, when he was a little kid, he had an
old man hanging around with him all the time.
But then once he hit puberty, all of a sudden it's a hot chick just fucking taking him around
the universe.
Yeah, you get the feeling the old man no longer had a use for him, which is really sad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like he was fucking stiff, mop.
So Billy actually lived quite the interesting life as a young man if his biography is to
be believed.
He went to prison for assault twice.
See, this is the problem is that he has a lot of these stories where he did go to prison
two times.
He joined the French Legion and then abandoned it by walking through a desert, just left
it in the middle of it.
He said he couldn't find his place in life.
He ended up in Turkey where he was a hit man for the government known as the Phantom.
Did you write that?
No, I don't.
He said that the Turkish government hired him to hunt serial killers in Turkey.
And that he became known as the Phantom.
And then everywhere he went, people knew him as a Phantom, and he's the series of headshots
of him with an Arabic like sort of like weird, I'm not going to say it's a scarf on his head.
And it's him like just like posing in front of various places in front of the Kings Guards.
This is where he also believes that Aska is taking him to visit several different leaders
of every country in the world where they've already been briefed.
He's the new Messiah and they met each other and they took pictures, but those pictures
got burned into fire.
Of course.
The pictures aren't that true as well.
And then he went back in the past and took pictures of pterodactyls and he has them.
So he deserted from the Legion.
He went back to Switzerland and was institutionalized for two years after his release.
He of course did the whole assassin thing for a while until he ended up in the Middle
East and started work as a day laborer.
And there is where he met a priest named Issa Rashid in 1963.
So we have these then, you know, is there documentation of him getting arrested twice?
Is that real?
I mean, there's no documentation.
This would be documented, correct?
There is.
There is no proof that this man existed.
I don't even know if it's his real name.
I don't know that none of it's backed up.
It's all just his life.
I mean, it's all based on his stories.
Right.
This is also like back in the day where I guess they just the records were loose and
you can just roll in and out of places and just kind of show up and give a fake name.
And he's calling himself Billy.
I'm just looking to solidify one fact of this person's life.
You can't.
I mean, we could maybe start with the Talmud of Jumanual.
That seemed no because that kind of burnt in a fire.
All right.
Well, let's hear about that.
Yeah, let's hear about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So Billy Meyer and his friend, a former priest named Issa Rashid, they discovered the Talmud
of Jumanual.
Jumanual.
Spelled J-M-M-A-N-U-E-L.
The Polygerans were very insistent that Jumanual be spelled exactly that way, J-M-M-A-N-U-E-L.
And they were so insistent that Billy always makes a point to say that the Plyarans were
insistent that he spell it that way.
Why don't they like vowels?
God.
Jumanual.
They cost money.
Oh, I see.
They're going with the Wheel of Fortune method?
Yes.
It's kind of like Mito Mas Jumanual.
I see.
Man.
Man.
All right.
Yeah.
So is it E-M-A-N-U-E-L or Jumanual?
It's E-M-A-N-U-E-L.
Jumanual.
Jumanual.
It is E-M-A-N-U-E-L because the point, it's the Hebrew spelling.
It's like when you learned, I believe it's in, is it Temple of Doom?
When he's going through the, no, it's all.
No, no, that's at Last Crusade.
Last Crusade.
In the end, Jones, at Last Crusade, when he's going through and he's just like, you
about before a manual.
I believe he said that.
And he was just like, he's on the E. He's on the E. He's like, spell with a J. And
then it goes down in the knee and that's how I learned that fact.
And I do want to say, Henry said that to us before the podcast and both Marcus and I
were like, what the hell are you talking about?
I am lost.
No, it makes sense.
Now I get it the second time around.
So anyway, while on an afternoon stroll in Jerusalem, Billy and Eesa discovered a small
hole in the ground that had somehow been overlooked for 2,000 years after getting a funny feeling
about it.
He always gets a funny feeling.
He gets a lot of funny feelings.
He started digging into the hole a little further and discovered an abandoned tomb and
contained within hidden under a large flat rock was a package containing four separate
scrolls covered with Aramaic writings.
These scrolls would come to be known as the Talmud of Immanuel.
These were a secret chapter of the Bible.
I'm going to rebrand them the Dickweed papers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So these scrolls were actually written by Judas Iscariot on behalf of Immanuel a.k.a.
Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christo.
The truth is, it was not Judas Iscariot who was the betrayer of Jesus.
Yeah, you idiot.
You were wrong the whole time.
You fucking moron.
Totally.
In fact, the two were like best buddies.
Yeah.
You fucking dummy.
I'm going to say we are all falling into roast mode right now.
We are doing...
No, best buddies.
They loved each other.
Actually, it wasn't Judas Iscariot who betrayed Jesus.
It was Judas Iscariot.
Yeah, you fucking moron.
Get your shit straight.
You shouldn't be allowed to have kids.
You've been wrong for so long.
Ted Bundy wasn't the killer.
It was a guy named Ted Glumby.
It's Glumby.
Everyone would know Glumby did it.
Tell the jury they're wrong.
Tell the jury they're wrong.
Yeah.
Although, it is quite the coincidence that Jesus was, you know, betrayed by a man who
had almost the same name as his best friend.
I feel bad for Judas now.
Absolutely.
It is a coincidence.
Yeah.
Like crazy.
You know, the last words were Glumby did it.
Why?
Well, what the Talmud of Immanuel proves, if it is in fact real and you take the Bible
as truth as well, is that Bible stories were a hell of a lot more alien based than the
churches led us to believe.
That would be so fucking cool if that was true.
Well, this actually...
Well, this is actually...
I mean, this is fairly common in alien lore, right?
I got a whole book about it.
It's called Extraterrestrials in the Bible.
It's boring.
Nah.
It's boring as shit.
Well, that means it's real.
Yeah, exactly.
It's specific and boring.
Yeah.
And this is the Talmud of Immanuel's version of the baptism of Jesus by Saint John the
Baptist in the River Jordan.
Who had antennas?
Chapter 3.
When Jumanuel had been baptized, he soon came out of the water of the Jordan, and behold
a metallic light dropped from the sky and descended deeply over the Jordan.
Consequently they fell on their faces and pressed them into the sand, while a voice
from the metallic light spoke, this is my beloved son with whom I am well pleased.
He will be the king of truth who will lift the human race to knowledge.
Behold after these words, Jumanuel entered into the metallic light which climbed into
the sky, surrounded by fire and smoke, and passed over the lifeless sea as the singing
of the metallic light soon faded away after that Jumanuel was no longer seen for 40 days
and nights.
You sound like an IBM computer eating a mayonnaise and tomato sandwich.
That's the idea.
I don't know why, but that's a classic sound.
So where did Jumanuel or Immanuel, let's go with Jumanuel.
I like Jumanuel.
Jumanuel's fun.
So where did Jumanuel go for those 40 days and 40 nights?
Well the Talmud says that Jumanuel, a.k.a. Jesus Christ, was actually cruising around
the stars on a UFO, learning the way of the universe, having a rad fucking month.
Yeah, so it's just like sometimes it's nice to be Jesus.
Sometimes you just gotta ride long.
Mayer, he doesn't just have the Talmud of Jumanuel to back this up.
During his discovery, Asket, remember Asket, the Plyaran handler, took Billy back in time
to meet and hang out with Jumanuel for four days.
And if you're wondering how Plyaran time travel works, Mayer states in short,
If Takians with the higher light speed than of those in normal space and they present
of the material universe in any given hyperspace is stored around a flying object, it is automatically
flowing into the past while a crone and flow below a prison speed of light resorts in a
trip to the future.
The Swiss sound like they're speaking in italics, it's just frustrating.
And that is total nonsense.
No, that's just bare bones.
That's bare bones.
It sounds like nonsense to me or you, but Billy actually, he doesn't know how it works.
See, it's not about you can't have the details of the guy who's the front man, fucking David
Lee Roth doesn't know how the speaker's worth, he's just there to rock.
He's right and jump.
Because Billy did know how it works, he'd be all the way down the fucking horseshit
all day long.
Dude, he'd get kidnapped, he'd get kidnapped and forced to use his time travel knowledge
for evil rather than good.
Rather than good.
So ignorance is saving him in this situation.
I mean, it's plausible deniability, Ben, you know all about that.
Of course.
Be like what?
With who?
With what?
I always say that.
If someone's about to tell me important information I say whoa, plausible deniability, tell it
to Henry.
I love secrets.
What he said too is that he was really responsible, he was very responsible about time travel
because he said that he'll talk about going in the past where he hung out with dinosaurs,
but he won't talk about the future because he doesn't want people to know about how there's
a difference between prophecy and prediction.
Is it because he didn't read a book about the future because we don't know what it's
going to look like yet and so he won't be accurate?
No way!
Is it possible?
But he said there's a difference between prediction and prophecy.
Prophecy is his idea that he doesn't want to tell people what could be happening in
the future because prophecy is still in a flux state, is that possibly we can change
what's going on, especially if it's really bad, like World War III or super-8s, we're
talking about super-8s.
And then he does say though predictions are solid and are going to happen and there's
no point in telling people what's definitely going to happen because then you're just
going to make people all sad.
So after the meeting with Jumanual, Billy left the Middle East and spent a year in India
where he took his first photographs of Pleyar and Spaceships, or as they call them, Beamships.
As he calls them Beamships and you know why?
Why?
Billy, Edward, Albert, Meyer, Billy, Edward, Albert, Meyer.
Is it Albert?
I know!
Is it Angus?
I just saw A.
Yeah.
So Billy, Edward, Albert, Meyer, he named the Spaceships after himself.
After himself, yeah.
Billy, I want to believe you, Billy.
Just give me one reason to.
It's because they're Beamships and they would not be called Beamships if it wasn't for me
to find.
Okay.
So they're Beamships, which actually kind of works.
It does kind of work.
I mean, Henry, what did he do in India?
Did he do anything besides just take some fuzzy pictures there?
She showed up at an ashram in India when he told them they called him the Spaceman.
He'd come in and he said that he was talking to aliens.
And by the way, they called him the Spaceman.
He's the sweetest dude dressed as a cowboy.
Yes.
Well, actually, that is what you want.
He is dressed like an alien trying to fit in.
You will literally find five of those guys in a hostel in Midtown, New York.
Oh, totally.
They're like, I mean, if you were an alien and you're coming to Earth, you choose an
accent, you choose a look and you choose an outfit.
I mean, he just, it was like, we're going with the Swiss accent.
We're going to be a man.
He's going to be straight.
He's going to dress like a cowboy.
He literally just threw darts at a wheel of he's a humanoid.
But he went to the ashram and that was where he started taking pictures of UFOs.
Right.
That is the one thing that Billy Meyer is incredibly famous for.
If you have gotten this far and know anything about Billy Meyer, he's famous for his actual
footage of these beam ships.
And so he started it in India and they're all very fuzzy and it is very spicy.
It is spicy.
But I did watch some of those videos.
Now, when it comes to, you know, alien footage, there isn't much good stuff out there.
They're not horrible.
They're completely fake.
But now, how does he fake them?
A guy named Phil Langdon did all of them again on his YouTube page.
He just went to literally their miniatures.
It's one, it is a piece of spruce that is put far away from the camera.
And then another tiny little airplane thing, he put it on like a wire.
So it was a hard pendulum type thing.
And he kind of did that.
Like you kind of spun it around a tiny little tree.
He's like, what's his name, Alec Baldwin and Beetlejuice.
So this, the whole India thing, that as far as I can tell when he took the pictures of
him, is the last contact that Billy would have with the Plyarans for 11 years.
Do we know why the break happens?
Seems what happened.
Is it after somewhere during this time period, he was on a bus leaving India going to Cleveland?
I don't know.
I feel like that's exactly where you go on a bus.
And how he says is that he was like, it was a warm day.
All I want to do feel, what do you be like if my head was a cloud?
And he stuck his hand.
I'm bad at this accent.
That was a good accent.
He stuck his hand out of a bus and apparently a drunk driver across from him on another
bus who was driving that bus, who was hammered, slain in his bus, the bus flipped.
And he lost his arm in the accident.
And then apparently he was wandering the desert for months.
Without the hands.
Without arm and stuff like that.
He said he was delirious.
And then he said this thing on this documentary I watched called, I believe it was called
the Silent Revolution of Truth from UFO TV.
And he talked about how he's like in that time period I learned that you cannot face
your regrets and you're going to do actions that are going to be against your nature but
you're supposed to learn from them.
Alluding did he did fucked up shit.
Yeah, he did horrible things without a hand which makes him more horrifying entirely.
Just think about how good at fiddling you gotta be if you only got one hand.
So he's through the desert we have 11 who's just doing criminal activity to get by.
It seems like he was just scamming around but I think that's what he did for forever.
I think that he was a low level criminal for a long time.
I think we're looking at he's sort of like the UFO version of Charles Manson where he's
a guy who lived on a lie.
He married a woman named Calliope that he met and he said because every alien in the
world that he was talking to said that he was going to meet this woman named Calliope.
They were going to get married and they were going to have they were going to give birth
to the next generation of philosophers or some bullshit and this was going to be a love
the last of the lifetime.
They got divorced 10 years later because he was beaten her.
He's not a good person.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
Billy Myers is a real big piece of shit.
We're going to get more into that.
Let's get into it.
So nine years later in 1975, nine years after he married Calliope the Plyarans came back
into Billy's life for good.
Now it seems like they came back into his life just because like he found a way to make
money off.
Yeah.
That and also kind of coincided with his divorce just a little bit.
Weird.
Yeah.
He suddenly had a lot more time on his hand.
This dude's a schizo, right?
So on January 28th, 1975, Billy was visited by an extraterrestrial named Sim Jossi.
Sim Yase.
Sim Pajorian.
Pajorian.
Pajorian.
Pajorian.
Sim Jossi, who was the granddaughter of Billy's first handler, Spath.
Yeah.
And he was quite a handler.
Yeah.
Oh, right.
Leave it alone.
And along with Sim Jossi came Pataw, Plyar, and Ketzel, who claimed that he was also the
famed Ketzel Kodl of Aztec Lords.
And no one named Sherlock-Wa, who said that he was of the famed Sherlock Holmes.
Oh, interesting.
From Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
Yeah.
In his years, Billy would meet many an alien, whose names would increasingly get more and
more bizarre as time went on, as if he was running out of stuff to tell people and couldn't
come up with anything.
I love these things.
It sounds like he was just rhyming the food that he was eating.
Collexal sounds like pretzel.
Pretzel, yeah.
He's looking at whatever food's around.
Yeah.
You're going to be omato.
Yeah.
In addition to all of those, there was Andron, Zeltan, the spirit guides, Melchora, Erlana,
and Jason Wan, there was Fetanica, Nepratisa, Kladina, and Kareen, Zerule, Zeruel, Zeruala,
the Awadon, and Zafintak Penech.
They all sound like prescription drugs.
They do.
Yeah.
Wow.
And yeah, those were throughout the years, and they really did.
As they went on and on and on, they got weirder and weirder and weirder, because he was of
course running out of shit to talk about.
It's got to be a very stressful morning.
He wakes up.
He's like, I got to come up with a new fake name every damn day.
Well, you could also just, again, like a cult leader, he has to continue the storyline or
also he's not going to be able to sell more stuff, because I don't know the key people
in his circle.
Right.
So in 1975, that's when this man named Wendell Stevens showed up and said, I'm going to
bust over this case, and it was, originally, the Billionaire store was really small.
He just showed up and he said that, yes, I've been taking pictures of UFOs.
I have all this document, all this documentation, and they talked to me, and eventually it grew
to include the Dao and the Dao universe and the many different levels of existence and
his philosophical writings that we're going to hear about now.
Yep, the contact reports, as they're called.
These are supposedly transcribed conversations that Billionaire has with various alien races.
To date, there are 26 published volumes of contact reports, though they are only officially
published in German under the name Pleiadesch, Pleiadesch, Kontakt beregte.
Is that real?
It sounds horrifying.
Did you get a good pronunciation on that?
Yeah.
Pleiadesch, Pleiadesch, Kontakt beregte.
That's how you, I took German for a couple of years.
I don't know what that means, because I forgot all of it.
I think it means it's lejaren, or is it pleiaren?
Contact the Bible, stickle, stickle, stickle.
What?
Okay.
These discussions, which are reportedly highly detailed, deal with such subjects as spirituality,
the afterlife, the dangers of mainstream religions, human history, overpopulation, and, of course,
prophecies.
He still uses mainstream religion as the catalyst for most of his theologic thought, right?
Well, it's more of the broad-based Christian shit of everyone needs to understand everybody
and you treat people how you treat yourself, and it's more about weird philosophical things,
but it's all vague, none of it's specific, except for later on when he had direct transmissions
you're going to see on the website, dayfly.com.
He came out and said stuff about marriage advice, dieting advice, all sorts of fun little
tidbits on there, and also how to take care of your pet.
But in theory, he wanted to be a deity, right?
He wanted to be seen as a god, but he just wasn't special enough to be killed.
The opposite, Kissel, is that he didn't want to ever be that important.
Yes, he wanted to sell, but yes, he's the only person allowed to speak to these aliens,
but he didn't want that.
I don't know.
He wanted none of this.
It was forced upon him.
Sometimes Ben Greatness is forced upon a man, and Billy Meyer is that man.
Well, go to the police.
It's not right.
So Billy's most enduring prophecy involves his repeated and shifting prediction of the
coming of World War III.
So far, the date has come and gone at least five times, with the last happening five years
ago when Billy said that four world leaders would die within seven days of each other
kicking off World War III two years after that.
And of course, that's just one of the dozens of prophecies Billy and the Plyarins have
foretold.
Henry, what are some of the other weird prophecies?
Well, they said apparently they predicted the Russians were going to attack Afghanistan
and the Ringo-Afghanistan, they predicted that, they predicted, of course, the World Trade
Center.
Oh, they all predicted.
Everyone saw that one.
They also said that we were going to be in two wars based out of Iraq under a president
that was the son of a former president, so that was accurate.
But what was weird is, is a lot of times with these predictions, is that the Plyarins specifically
tell Billy that he cannot release his predictions until after it happens.
Oh, I see.
You know, what you just told me, which I was actually kind of impressed by, is total
dog shit.
No.
Because he said it in hindsight.
No, he's just talking about protocol.
They are predictable.
No, but did you really?
And because Wendell Stevens, the youthful researcher that was involved in all this,
said that he was accidentally released some information, that he wasn't supposed to print
out, so he's read beforehand some secret information that we're not supposed to know what specifically
it was that he read, but he read it before it was supposed to be released, and so he
said it's real.
So the guy has a loose understanding of a U.S. foreign policy, and then he just sort
of based, but he didn't come up with these conclusions in the 70s before they actually
happened.
Plyarins.
Yeah, Billy says that all of the prophecies are actually converging now, saying that the
aliens told him that the earth itself is actually a consciousness hologram that is in the process
of evolving.
Understanding is myth, math, and metaphor following patterns of sacred geometry.
Well he still doesn't have a hand.
Yeah, yeah, get a new hand and then let's talk.
Once you grow, if he grows a new arm, he's right.
Sure.
So besides just transcribed conversations, Billy also has what he claims to be hard evidence
of his contacts with the Plyarin.
He has some very interesting metal, for one, which scientists who examined it have called
it quote unquote, odd.
But this is the problem, though, is that he also says that they don't trust scientists
because they'll say anything to fulfill their egos of their scientific wishes.
The egos of the scientists who are constantly proven wrong every single day of their lives
and they constantly search for the truth.
Can't trust a scientist.
You can't trust a scientist.
Can't trust a scientist.
That's a straight answer.
Oh, I see.
No, that's the thing about Billy Meyer.
He's got the metal, it is quote unquote, odd, but the thing that he's best known for.
He won't produce it all the time.
It's sitting somewhere.
I sometimes don't bring it out.
Sometimes he won't.
It all depends on what kind of mood he's in.
He also has an apple in a jar that he says from an alien.
It's from an alien greenhouse, but he said it's different than the other kind of apple.
They're just creating apples.
He said it's from an alien greenhouse.
I would believe it if I bit into it and it was a watermelon.
That's the only way I would believe it was an alien apple.
And still, that's just HGMOs.
Sounds good.
Actually, a watermelon apple.
Make it happen, scientists.
He also has a piece of quartz that he said he found in the tomb of Jumanuel that was
given to Jesus.
That's a part of the alternative storyline of Jesus Christ, is that he never died on
the cross.
He actually was put to sleep by aliens into a coma, then he was put into a tomb where
he was taken by Indian healers, where he went to India to train everybody how to listen
to the Buddha.
If you're Jesus, that's just so much more difficult than being hung on the cross.
You seem like you doubt everything.
I know, I do think the scientists looked at the metal and then looked at Billy Meyer and
then they said, ah, they were talking about Billy Meyer, not the metal, I think it's just
metal.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It is just kind of weird.
I mean, I'm sure like a meddler just gave it, like just kind of mixed a bunch of shit
together and said, here you go, go have fun.
So the thing is that Billy is best known for, besides the metal, is his photographs, please.
If you have, if you have the ability right now, please just open your browser and Google
Billy Meyer photographs and see these things for yourself.
Billy, Henry, could you describe, please describe the Billy Meyer photographs?
If Lenny from advice of men was trying to tell the story of Scientology, well, Lenny
had a certain intelligence in his own right.
Yes.
So he has this thing, there's a famous one is the wedding cake UFO, which is this UFO
has got a bunch of balls on the side of it and he took a bunch of pictures, he said it
landed in his front yard.
It's obviously held it in front of his camera and he took a picture in front of his house.
The wedding cake UFO, they say, is far too precisely made for any human to ever put these
balls in such alignment on the sides of this UFO.
You know what you use?
A ruler.
It's literally a ruler.
Well, well, you know, just let's think about your choice of words there for a second, Henry,
held a model out in front of him.
The authenticity of these photographs have been challenged, but some say that even the
possibility of them being faked can't even be entertained as there's no way that these
photos, even if they are faked, could be faked by a man with one arm.
Put it on the table.
That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my entire life.
I'm just gonna, you know, tie it to a squirrel, you know, figure it out.
Anything else?
We built the pyramids, maybe, and if we did, without the help of aliens, that was really
difficult.
I mean, I'm just sad though.
This guy could have been one of those really fun creative directors.
What was the director that Johnny Depp played in that film?
Oh, Edward.
Edward.
He seems like an Edward type.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, if he was born in Los Angeles or in America, I think he would have gone to Hollywood.
He probably would have.
I mean, these are pretty kick-ass models.
They are great.
They are really cool, and I like the simplicity of the UFOs.
I think they're really cool, but my problem, again, with all of this proof being fake,
obviously fake, Phil Langdon, you look at his YouTube page, he redid all the pictures.
He just did it, he was like, this is how you do it, and he did it with his arm tied around
his back to show that a band could do it with one arm.
He was pissed off.
Well, I think that's cultural appropriation.
That's not appropriate.
Thank you for being sensitive.
Yes.
The problem is it does take away from the whole argument for UFOs altogether, and I don't
think it's necessarily disinformation, but this guy is a great tool for the government
if they are trying to dispel any sort of rumors about alien life or secret ships that look
like this.
No, but I think it's good.
But I think it's also good to have examples of fraud in order to prove when it is actually
something real.
He just makes Stanton Friedman scream at a higher pitch and that makes everything look
more ludicrous.
Stanton Friedman needs to be upset once a day or he's going to die.
His pants are getting higher and higher.
He's literally, he's like his pants are quicksand and he's a traveler in Africa.
Yeah, and actually speaking of Stanton Friedman, him and Jacques Vallée, they believe in this
guy one bit.
They don't believe in him.
Yeah, and if you ask me to side with anyone in the UFO community but Stanton Friedman,
I'm going to tell you to go straight to hell.
Go straight to hell, you fucking idiot.
Yes, I'm on Stanton's side.
I'm with Stanton.
You're with her?
I'm with Stanton.
I'm with Stanton.
Am I with her?
Suspenders for every egg shapes man.
Why can't he nail that?
I didn't even know I was about to get into a fight.
All conversations with UFOs either have to begin or end with screaming.
Oh, I understand.
Yeah, and speaking of criticism, Meyer does have quite a few detractors in the UFO community.
Specifically, a man named Derek Bartholomew.
Bartholomew?
Now I really feel like I'm at family dinner.
I actually do have flashbacks to my gay brothers and my evangelical parents screaming at each
other about orientation, and I just want to eat a fucking terribly cooked steak.
Yeah, Derek Bartholomew is a member of the Independent Investigations Group, and Bartholomew
is particularly...
It is so independent.
It's like he's the only one.
Super independent.
Yeah, Bartholomew's is particularly critical of the organization that Billy founded way
back in 1975.
The Freie Interessen Gemeinschafte für Glins und Geisteswissenschaften und UFOligistudien.
You just broke podcasts.
All of Sweden just shut it off.
That's how sweet it is.
That's German.
That was German.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Freie Interessen Gemeinschafte für Glins und Geisteswissenschaften und UFOligistudien.
That's the Freie Community of Interests for Friends and Spiritual Scientists and Ufology,
otherwise known as FIGU.
I wish that this was the live stream so people could see my face.
Yes.
The disgust.
The grimace just like slowly forward.
You're getting like new wrinkles on the live stream.
These last five years I've aged like someone who is like a Sherpa.
I also know that this man's obviously a nerd.
But he's a good nerd and he's trying to her best.
Billy Meyer?
No.
Technically Billy Meyer is the cool nerd half of this because he gets to make all of this
shit up.
Who's the nerd that you're talking about?
Bartholomew's is just a man who is mad at another nerd so much.
He has a nerd out at him even deeper.
Okay.
I understand.
He bought, yeah Bartholomew's, he went.
He learned how to make websites.
He bought the domain BillyMeyerUFOcase.com.
He put together all of the information.
He got into email spats with Billy Meyer's PR guy which we'll get to here in just a second.
Okay.
But his biggest criticism was of FIGU.
Here's how FIGU works.
And how do you spell that?
F-I-G-U.
Okay.
Yeah, that's the Freyja intelligence.
We know what it is.
Oh yes, okay.
I got it.
Membership is a two-step process.
First, you need to be a passive member for at least two years.
I had a passive member for two years.
It was my first two years living in New York.
No one looked at it.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
This requires a $98 subscription to their quarterly newsletter, an annual membership fee of $39,
a one-time application fee of $39, and a mandatory annual contribution of 7% of one month's salary.
A passive member is also required to work three full days annually at the FIGU Center in Switzerland.
Which is his house.
Which is his house.
Yes.
To remain a passive member in good standing.
And if you're not able to work the full three days, you can pay $91 per day.
Or you can pay $274 for all three, which means that you're paying $91 per day for all those three days plus a $1 surcharge.
I'm extremely confused.
So it's 7% of your one month paycheck.
7% of one month's salary.
And with that, you're able to go clean his toilets.
Yes.
Well, I mean, you're actually cleaning his yarns.
Actually, it's not that you can clean his toilets, it's that you're forced to clean his toilets.
This is like Fight Club for fucking dickheads.
Yes.
I mean, at least in Fight Club, you got to scruff around and get drunk and do drugs.
It's smelly Scientology.
Yes.
You also have to attend at least one annual passive group general assembly at FIGU in Switzerland.
Which, that all total, in order to be a passive member, it's $450 a year.
But it seems like you're very active.
How are you actively passive as a member?
I don't get the term.
Well, let me get into an active member.
Active members, you have to literally suck Billy's dick.
Well, that would be a little bit more active.
Now, naturally, someone with an organization this large is going to need...
How large is it?
There's got to be, I don't know, I would guess a few hundred at the very least.
Rent money?
Sure.
But if you've got an organization like this, then you're going to need a PR guy.
Billy's guy is a dude named Michael Horne.
Now, Michael Horne is an obvious piece of shit.
He kind of gets involved in this whole thing by putting himself in there.
He's intrigued by the Wendell Stevens investigations.
He starts taking over the Billy Meyer entire, like his empire.
And all the communications, because Billy gets so frustrated when anybody challenges him.
He doesn't like talking to me.
He doesn't understand why no one will just come to Switzerland and talk to him face to face.
That's how he thinks the only way a proper man would criticize his work.
So he sends Michael Horne out into the world to be his little, like his little...
Well, I think of him as sort of a campaign manager.
Like David Axelrod or Steve Bannon, something like that.
He's a surrogate.
But what he is doing is that he set up Figu in order for Billy to make money.
And then what he also is trying to do, he comes in all of these weird little paranormal shows.
I've watched five interviews with Michael Horne, and he keeps saying the same thing.
He does not answer questions you do ask him.
You'll ask him a question, and then he immediately jumps into this whole thing.
He's like, everybody wants to talk about these photos.
Like, it's the only thing that matters.
But it comes down to it, UFOs are only a small part of the story.
The real story is Billy's philosophical teachings, which is why you need to join Figu.
Because you get all of his books with all of that, and you go to his Swiss compound,
and you listen to him talk about his various philosophies.
And that is what you're really trying to get at.
But at this point, UFOs are not even important.
Yeah.
It's about Billy's teaching.
So close to giving an inert alert right now.
But that's what it is.
That's literally how he's pivoting it to like, oh no, no, no, this UFO stuff.
Yes, everybody's saying that all of this stuff is fake.
But it's actually more about the man.
And just judging by your accent, is he an acidic MTA worker?
That's his spirit.
Oh, I see.
Well, Michael also claims to have won the Independent Investigation Group's $50,000 Paranormal Challenge.
Yeah, the challenge can be won by anyone who can prove in a controlled setting
that they have extra normal ability.
Can you imagine him having to sell his house to pay that $50,000?
I immediately thought of Mark Summers from Double Dare,
and then the great show Unwrapped hosting this entire event.
No, the whole thing is hosted by Derek Bartholomew.
Get Mark Summers.
And Bartholomew said that at no time has Horne or Billy Meyer ever even submitted
even an application for the challenge, much less won it.
But Bartholomew seems to be the least of the enemies that Billy has made in his life.
This is what he has to say to and about his quote-unquote enemy.
My enemies are jealous of my contacts with the Piliadians,
and feel they would have been a far superior contact piercing in comparison to me.
These enemies do not consider that my contacts are not only entailed fame
for which they are lasting with all of their egos,
but also serious problems, e.g. altogether 13 assassination attempts,
which have been led against me.
I love it. You didn't go into Jamaican, you did go into carbon,
but that was a great accent.
I'm trying my best.
You don't really get it.
We have new accents.
You're doing great.
But it's true. Yeah, so he's saying there's pressure.
Who would want this pressure?
Yeah, and did you hear that?
Correct. 13 assassination attempts.
13.
13, and that was in 1998.
By 2011, Billy had 22 unsuccessful assassination attempts.
Now, what do these assassination attempts look like? Were they guns?
Or was it an archer in a tree?
People coughing near him.
They're trying to get me to superyates.
It's everything that you can possibly imagine.
In the year that the Satan was made, two attempts occurred on consecutive days.
The first attempt was by gun,
in which an assassin took a shot at Billy's head with a 22 and missed.
Only 28 and a half hours later,
another assassin, or possibly the same assassin,
tried killing Billy with a throwing knife,
but thankfully the knife was cheap and Billy was only hit by the handle.
And that's what happens when you send crocodile Dundee to go and do a job.
I also think he's the middle of the Scandinavian forest.
There's hunters everywhere.
There are hunters everywhere, but again, these would be acts that would be,
you know, registered with the local police department.
Is there any documentation that this stuff existed?
No, he just kind of lets it slide.
It's bigger than the government.
It's bigger than them.
A man aims a gun at your face and he shoots a bullet.
You don't call the police after that.
Well, why would you call the police when it's the police that are in on it?
When it's the governments of the world that are in on it.
The threats are coming from within and without.
The threats are coming from the governments here on earth
that are actually wanting to keep all of the pliarin' knowledge away from us
because it will bring us up to a higher point of understanding
and the governments of the world don't want that.
They don't want to have us all together.
They want us to be on our Facebooks and our Twitter's
and our Instagrammer's.
They want us to be drinking Coca-Cola.
Oh, yeah.
And having pop rocks for dinner, yeah.
They want those to be poisoning us.
They don't want us to have apples.
They don't want us to have apples at all.
They don't want us to have the Billy Meyer apples.
All they want is for us to be slaves
and that is why people like Billy Meyer have assassination attempts
because you're complicit, Ben.
Oh, I smoke weed and that makes me free.
All I can think about is the person at Billy Meyer,
the passive member at Billy Meyer's house licking the dishes clean.
That's the only thing I can think about.
Do you think maybe we could take some of the fund?
I know I'm putting money in the fund.
Could we get some sponges?
Open your mouth.
You see that? What do we call that?
That's the sponge.
Oh, my tongue?
Yeah, your tongue is the sponge.
Yeah, they just think he's not just getting the threats from earth.
They're also getting the threats from extraterrestrials as well.
Particularly, the extraterrestrial rebel and criminal, Arusek,
aka Ash Tarsharen, who was killed in 1983
when he attacked Ash Kett's people in the doll universe.
Now, Billy doesn't tell the full story, but believe me,
I bet that shit was intense.
He's got some ideas for it.
Yeah, what are some of the ideas?
I don't know.
Well, he seems like he has the sounds for it.
You are my father.
That's straight.
I am your father.
Star Wars, Star Wars.
But you see the thing is he wrote the script for Star Wars,
but he didn't want to con and say that he did until after the movie came out.
So we don't want to be attached to a multi-billion-dollar industry.
We all make mistakes.
I see.
So let's end the thing.
Why would we want to shut down the message of the Plojarians
when it's sweet and it's good and it's good for all society?
I mean, why would you want to shut down a man like Billy?
He can't possibly have a bunch of really weird, edgy,
fucked-up opinions that kind of get saddled in the middle of all this
conscious ascending fucking advice.
And may I please quote Megadeth?
Of course.
Peacells, but nobody's buying.
Yeah, dude.
Killing is my business and business is good.
Yeah.
So let's end today's episode on one of Meyer's more controversial opinions.
What do you mean?
Namely, his intense lifelong homophobia.
Oh, I knew he was an old writer.
One of those guys who really likes the word degenerate.
He claims in one of his prophecies that AIDS will become an epidemic
that will eventually wipe out mankind should we leave it unchecked.
And naturally, this is all the fault of, quote,
Degenerate homosexuals practicing siotomy with long-tailed myonkeys.
This one-handed motherfucker who believes in aliens
and is a total scam artist has the audacity to come against gay people?
Yes, he does.
He hates gay people.
Yeah, absolutely. And not even the play-arons, he says, have a cure for AIDS.
And he also says that it is a distinctly Earth-bound virus,
as it also seems like homosexuality is a distinctly Earth-bound phenomenon,
which would be weird, because that would make us one out of 40,353,607 races
that are into that.
Like, we're the only ones that figured out gay stuff.
Everyone is fucking every hole they can.
Everything that exists in every dimension is fucking whatever it is they want to fuck.
That's what they do.
Everybody does it.
You feel what you got.
You feel what you feel.
Yeah, my mind is flipping to abling its top hat mode,
and I want to get political with it.
But this is really upsetting.
And Billy Meyer is a scam artist and a liar.
Yes, he's a dickhead.
Billy Meyer is awful.
Team Friedman.
But Billy says it's only going to get worse from here.
If we don't seize our degenerate ways,
this is him explaining how to steer clear of this deadly disease.
With hand greetings, the hands should be promptly cleaned,
and greetings with the kiss and the like should be completely omitted,
as well as physical contacts of all kinds.
Up to the unlawful bad habit of the Earth's people in maintaining
frequent sexual relations with other people there,
without it concerning their actual own partners.
A bad habit that is as contrary to nature as sodomy,
which in the first form, as likewise, produces its consequences through
Caribbean hairpiece, which is a mutated and degenerated form
of the globally spread genital hairpiece.
Also, Caribbean hairpiece, or the American named hairpiece,
is a degenerative disease of incurable form
and has already been explained, but in the coming time,
it will continue to degenerate and become as deadly as the AIDS epidemic
if the Earth doesn't person, doesn't immediately order a stop
to his sexual degeneracy.
Magic Johnson alone beat AIDS, and he was sweating all over
a bunch of people while he had AIDS, and they did not get AIDS.
This man, he doesn't understand his science.
He also was a sexless individual, and he does not believe,
he believes in sex for procreation.
Yeah, and he says that it pretty much comes down that
if we don't stop fucking each other like we're fucking each other,
we're all going to get taken down by Caribbean hairpiece.
And Texas just passed a law where they don't want to give
same-sex couples the same rights, the tax breaks,
because they don't procreate, and the whole point of the
tax break is for procreation.
Now I'm getting obsessed.
I'm mad.
We've got to wrap this episode up pretty soon.
These people are fucking idiots.
You know what I will say again about Billy Meyer, right?
Is that it's actually, it's a troubled UFO topic,
not unlike Roswell, where it's like been debunked and attacked
and all this stuff.
It's like, I don't believe a word that Billy Meyer says,
but I do believe in contact with alien entities.
I do believe that that is real.
I believe it is a personal psychic experience.
I do believe it has a physical phenomenon.
I believe that the American government probably has found
weird things in the desert that have crashed and possibly
bodies and they don't know what it is and they don't know
what to tell us what it is.
And we did have that story recently now with the,
with the sounds coming from space, right, Henry?
And that is a very interesting story.
And what is that a little bit?
I don't, no one really knows.
Because apparently it's a, it's a radio, it seems like
it's a radio frequency that comes from an area of the,
of the galaxy right near us that has one of our, the exoplanets.
That is a planet that's not unlike Earth.
And it's the same thing when they said they possibly found
the megastructure.
It's a Russian military satellite.
It is a Russian military satellite.
That's what they're saying?
The Russians are aliens?
We've got to destroy the Russians right now.
I'll also say, very convenient.
If you want to get, I'll deny everything until I'm literally
raving mad in an insane asylum.
I know, I feel like everyone's getting pretty upset at this
point of the show.
I'm just saying to remember the aliens are, are, as far as
I'm concerned, they're real.
And UFOs are a phenomenon that we do not understand.
And we should not stop attempting to understand them.
Billy Meyers homophobia aside.
Well, and the, again, the good thing about Billy Meier,
the con artist is then we can take seriously the individuals
who aren't.
You need to have the lie before you can find the truth.
It's bad for, no, but it's bad for it to take legitimacy
because then Billy Meier pops up to the top.
When you go look up UFOs, you have this, you've got a
Santa Claus looking man.
Oh, he seems really nice.
What did he say about what?
Um, all right.
Is that it on Billy Meier?
That's it on Billy Meier.
That's all we got, man.
I mean, that's all there is.
But I can get, I can put the link to the 25 YouTube videos
of each an hour and a half long, the entire, like,
these entire contact reports.
It's long.
It's very long.
And did you watch all 25 of those?
I just watched the first two.
And how's the relationship?
Um, all right.
Well, thank you guys so much for listening.
What a wonderful, informative episode it was all about
this man, Billy Meier.
I had no idea.
It was informative.
It was informative.
We definitely spoke for an hour and 20 minutes.
I think it was one of our, one of the, another great episode
of the last podcast on the left.
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Hail Satan.
You fuckers.
Hail yourselves.
Yeah.
Go out there and teach people about aliens.
Grab them on the street.
Tell them everything that you know and don't let them leave
your home until they sign an affidavit agreeing with what
you said.
He did just tell you to commit three felonies.
So don't do that.
Do what you have to do.
Do what you have to do.
Hail keen everyone.
And make good solutions.
Tell me.