Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 256: Jack The Ripper Part III - Oh Murder!

Episode Date: January 27, 2017

We continue our series with the letters of Jack the Ripper, the message on the wall, and the gruesome murder of the Ripper's last victim, Mary Jane Kelly.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last time on the left So I had a dream last night that Natalie and I were sitting in the middle of watching Deadwood right now We're rewatching it because it's it feels nicer than what's happening in reality. Yeah, right on top five years late But you're late and I had a dream last night that Natalie and I were watching it and that the whole thing was elsewhere And chin was sucking on this prostitutes breasts Trying to get milk out of them and it kept turning me like can't get any milk out of these tits Were you hard when you woke up? That's what Natalie asked and I don't think so, but I wake up hard anyway Yeah, all right. Welcome to the last podcast on the left. I'm Ben Kessel. That's Marcus Parks

We already heard something we don't want to hear from Henry Never want to think about that ever again. I apologize for prompting it That's not all that different from Deadwood the show. Yeah, that's what I mean Yeah, I mean, there's a whole scene where he's getting a violent blowjob from a woman He's he's making a Shakespearean soliloquy. I think you were just watching Deadwood. I was Fell asleep while watching Deadwood. I just think between Deadwood and the all of the prostitute reading I'm doing with Jack the Ripper. It's all just in the brain now. And it's just I know I've already thought about how like you could suck milk on an adult's breasts

I don't want to hear it anymore Henry. Good Lord. All right, I will say you know people say they hate to hear people's dreams. Yes That's why yeah, exactly. I agree specifically yours All right, well, let's go to another hellacious time in human history other than Deadwood Let's jump right back in to Jack the Ripper part three. Oh, yeah And we are picking up the night of the double event that would be the murder of Catherine Edo's and The murder of Elizabeth Stride that would be the double event So after they found those bodies a couple hours afterwards at 2 55 a.m

Another discovery was made PC Alfred Long found a ripped piece of apron covered in blood and feces Lying outside of Wentworth model dwellings on Goolston Street Now here's the thing about the UK, which I don't understand or if this is an old-timey thing They always would write feces as faeces F-a-e-s-c-e-s That's a problem. I look at it and it makes me think of fairies It makes me think of like magic when you talk about it MA MA GI CKE and it's just being like is this just the new age way Of spelling shit

Also, why does he have dookie on his apron? Is that like a traditional thing where they wash their hands and then the aprons long enough after they go to the bathroom to just like They're like well it it works on the meat. It works on my butt I'm wearing my own toilet paper. That's the most economical use of my outfit here Also, I don't need to wear undies either cuz it's like a bathroom door The cleanest market in town the feces came from the body Because they apparently that was one thing that they talked about that when they found a Liz Stride's body is that not only had she been Deeply dismembered, but she'd also pooped on the street

So it was like when David spade and Chris Farley were eating the shrimp and Tommy boy David's face like this one was full. It was like that Yes, man, I don't like it Yeah, the reason why went worth model dwellings was important in this context is that it was in a largely Jewish section of white Chapel and the building was inhabited almost entirely by Jewish people. This was important Because of the message that was written on the wall right above where the apron lay the message said The Jews are the man that will not be blamed for nothing Wait, hold on what?

So what are they gonna be blamed they say it's it's cockney double speak as to what they're talking about it So they use a lot of double negatives and cockney slang So what it says is the Jews are the man that will not be blamed for nothing So are they blamed for something? It's more like it's a it's a they do get a man. No, not by Brian Fennett. Now I get it. Thank you, Marcus Yeah, and that was with Jews spelled Ju W E S now there's a lot of speculation as far as to what that misspelling means not there's a lot of speculation Marcus, there's a lot of it. There's literally books on it

I'm holding two of them in my hands. Both of them are 900 pages long. Let's get into it Just about the misspelling, huh? Oh, yeah, and it could be the simplest explanation Is that the ripper was illiterate? Yeah, and more and he didn't know how to spell Jews. That's disgusting How dare you shame ripper? That's ripper shame I don't know if you're not intelligent enough to spell the race that you don't like you have to like them That's my official position on that. How can you be? How can you be anti-Jewish if you don't even know how to spell the name? It also could be that Jews Ju W E S

Was a secret masonic message, but You want to start it without start knit Marcus. I'm gonna start it. I'm that's gonna be a little teaser for episode four I've got a nerd alert lined up right behind me guys if you get too much into this No, it seems like if you're interested in true crime at all that a photograph of this message would be just as Recognizable as the Mary Kelly crime scene photo as photography was very much in use in law enforcement at this time But you've got to remember that opinions of the Jewish population among East Inders at this point were not very high to say the least and The message was written right in the middle of a popular Jewish merchant area and at any moment

Gentile purchasers were sure to show up and see the message Well, it's there. It's very interesting because also not only was Why chapel in general a big center of the Jewish population of London itself But this little area was like the complete total epicenter of Jewish life in white chapel And what was interesting is that they weren't so much mad that the Jewish people there celebrating another religion It was that they lived completely in a European style like it was very open It was out on the streets and people Resented the way they live they resented the fact that they came in and didn't adhere to like English

societal measures and the way that they live which is getting pitch-drunk in the sleep But if I'm getting pitch-drunk in the street beaten prostitutes all day, right, right, right, right? Well, it takes a little while to assimilate. What was the what was it written in was it blood? I mean they didn't talk paint always in chalk. Yeah. Yeah, it was it was written in chalk I was thinking it could be faces, but I'm happy to hear it's chalk This is this right here This is the logic of the police officers when the Gentiles saw this message whatever the hell it meant It was possible that it would have given the Gentile population of the East End just the excuse

They needed to run riot and that was the last thing the Metropolitan police wanted to deal with and so it was decided after much Debate that the message would be washed away before a photographer had a chance to capture it But there is no doubt whatsoever That it was written by the killer as the fabric found Perfectly with a piece ripped away from the apron of Catherine Edo's But at the same time it could have just been there in the first place that graffiti was written on there to just to be Antisemitic possibly and it could have just been there and the killer just dropped it as he was running away trying to clean the comb off his pants So that's the problem. That is that is that is true. I take it back

There is plenty of doubt that because among Whitechapel there was quite a bit of anti-semitic Graffiti just written and it could be that it was just a because what it was right is the they could tell that the cloth Was used to wipe off the knife But okay, so then this implies that the killer would be a Gentile if they're against the Jewish people, right? Yes, yeah, but then how would they how would they start to blame the Jewish people for being Jack the Ripper? Or was it a Jewish person who purposely did that to make it look like a Gentile did it? Look at the statement. I don't know The Jews with Amanda will not be named for nothing

It sounds like a spiteful message from a Jewish person that say that no matter what happens here The Jews will be blamed whatever happens in this town So it could be and this goes into weird alternative theories about Jack the Ripper about whether or not He was a Jewish man that was bitter about his About the prostitute population in Whitechapel and wanted to do something about it Or it was a Jewish man that was killing prostitutes in order to bring the intention of the government To Whitechapel to come and help them basically it's this idea that maybe That Jack the Ripper was killing prostitutes in getting attention and writing these messages in order to get government

attention so people to come in and clean up the streets interesting they called out the social reformer theory now it is possible that the Murders would have passed into history is nothing more than a sorted footnote had the perpetrator been known simply as the Whitechapel murderer or Even if he had just been known as Leather Apron as cool as Leather Apron is very cool One of the reasons why this case is endured for well over a hundred years all comes down to branding It all comes down to the name Jack the Ripper. It's cool. It's cool. I mean, it's cool Good point. Yeah, it's cool. It's catchy. It tells you everything that you need Jack the Ripper the name itself is why this has endured for so long and that name came from a series of letters received the day of The double event just hours before the Elizabeth Stride murder

Scotland Yard was given a letter that had supposedly been sent to the desk of journalist Tom Bulling of the central news agency The letter written in red ink and addressed to the boss Reads as follows. It went to Bruce Springsteen Yeah, it's a hundred and fifty years too early. I'm sorry. We all want we were all looking for the troubadour of New Jersey for forever Dear boss, I keep on hearing the police have caught me, but they won't fix me just yet I have laughed when they look so clever and talk about being on the right track That joke about Leather Apron gave me real fits I

Am down on horse and I shan't quit repping them until I do get buckled Grandwork the last job was I gave the lady no time to squeal. How can they catch me now? I love my work and I want to start again You will soon hear of me with my funny little games I saved some of the proper red stuff in a ginger beer bottle over the last job to write with But it went thick like glue and I can't use it red ink is fit enough. I hope The next job I do I shall clip the ladies ear off and send to the police officers just for jolly, wouldn't you? Keep this letter back till I do a bit more work then give it out straight

My nice so nice and sharp. I want to get to work right away if I get a chance. Good luck Yours truly Jack the Ripper Don't mind me giving the trade man PS wasn't good enough to post this before I got all the reading off my hands curse it no luck yet They say I'm a doctor now I don't want to get ahead of ourselves. I know we're doing the suspects in the next episode But I think I saw that it's a judging by the knife work and then and the letter. It's Julia Childs Constantly hammered

Now this letter probably would have been passed off as one of the many hoaxes going around at the time if not for one line The next job I do I shall clip the ladies ears off and send to the police officers just for jolly, wouldn't you? I gotta say clip sounds worse than cut. Yeah, like the idea to be clipped off Yeah, well because it's a clipping that is much more Animalistic right clipping is something you do to a sheep. You clip a sheep's balls off, you know Like you don't do that you clip the ears of a dog Right that that's why clip sounds so much more disturbing because it implies that he doesn't see these women as humans I'm gonna name my first child clip clip kissle. Well, so you're gonna be like Sarah Palin

Yeah, naming your kids after fucking sounds that the gun makes my other question is is You clip the ears of a dog. Yeah, yeah, of course all those Dogs you see fighting the pit bulls. Those are all clipped. Yeah, Doberman pinchers a lot of people clip those ears and the tails Yeah, many Doberman pinchers. It's it's an awful practice. I'm against it. Yeah, it's cruel dogs are not paper dolls I know cute Borky die my my middle brother He had a cat named charcoal and he used to clip her whiskers and then of course as you got older you realize that's their main feeling So she was in hell

Living with my middle brother. Oh, yeah, she was living in saw. Yeah. Yeah, but he wanted to have them just so, you know No, if you'll remember concerning the ear clipping one of Catherine Edo's ear lobes had indeed been clipped So cops took this one a little more seriously than the other letters They had received at a loss cops printed the letter in the papers and made gigantic copies of it And posted them outside police stations hoping someone would recognize the handwriting now This has got to be a tough decision for a police department to make Do you do you do the press or do you not do the press? What my personal belief at this point in history would say don't do it

Well at this point they had no idea what to do because this was the first time they were dealing with the press Right and they had an uneasy relationship with the press up until this point because the whole thing exactly They're constantly fighting like leads getting out and people coming to them with information that they have been prepped with Ahead of time so now that you're getting all these people confessing because of their been the details of the crimes have been already put out in the Newspapers sure it's it's very strange. So the police want to get their message out. Yeah Yeah, but unless this letter came from somebody in the newspapers Yeah, because this whole thing it was a huge mistake as they were soon receiving dozens of letters a day with anywhere between 300 and

1400 received overall by the end of it depending on who you read and that right there is a wonderful example of just how fucking Confusing it is to research Jack the Ripper the gap between 300 and 1400. It's pretty goddamn. Why it's a big gap It's a huge 1100 and also every witness is hammer Yeah, every witness is Beligerently hammered and already a known liar Everybody's a liar and a thief and everything's pitch black. And so they're all just saying just whatever They're just saying whatever off the top of their head They don't like the way the guy served its fish and chips

Because it was too soggy or maybe it was too good because he thought the fish and chips are too good and that's suspicious It's going to be saucy Jack. It's got to be I've never had a good proper malt vinegar on my fries before It could be a killer and speaking of Saucy Jack the next one is considered to be possibly genuine is known as the saucy jack postcard It was received on October 1st the day after the double event. This is what it reads I was not cutting dear old boss when I gave you the tip You'll hear about saucy Jackie's work tomorrow's double event this time number one squealed a bit couldn't finish straight off Huh, not the time to get ears for police

Thanks for keeping last letter back till I get to work again Jack the Ripper Sounds like a J Edgar Hoover letter We're in a dress during that I'm sitting on a bowling pin. Well, I write this oh sweet dear saucy Jackie covered with his own saucy Jackie Nothing wrong with that Horny as a deer. I don't know if deer are that horny, but oh, I've never seen a dear fucking up the dare It's a trotious. Oh, I love to watch it. Goodbye Bye-bye

The people who argue that the saucy jack postcard is genuine point to the fact that the postcard described the double event before It was released in the papers But what those people ignore is the possibility that it was invented by the papers themselves Fucking bent cockney assholes. We're trying to sell newspapers. No way that's possible It's pretty widely believed now by most reputable historians That these letters were actually written by journalist Tom Bulling the guy who gave them to the Metropolitan police in the first place or Possibly his editor and the whole thing was just a ruse to add a little bit more sauce to the murders And to keep the story going we got fake news. Yeah, I mean news fake news

Well, I mean really the the concept of journalistic integrity Came from fighting back against these sorts of stories. Not only in England, but also in America The whole fake news phenomenon is that we're just going through cycles. We're just at the next phase of Fake news. This is something that's been going on for well over a century ever since newspapers were invented I don't read any fake news. I only read u.s. U.s. Weekly report u.s. World News I only read Empire news and why wouldn't you all I read is the Metro paper that they give out for free on the subway

That's right And it's great because they'll tell you all sorts of things that they movie reviews what subway lines you're on or doing bad Hey, actually we were I want to thank all the people at Metro Boston for doing a great story on us Yeah, that was my buddy Brendan McGurk. Thank you very much Brendan. Thank you not fake news Not fake news now the most disturbing letter and the one most likely not written by journalists is the infamous From hell letter. Oh my god. How do you get paper from hell? It's so hot there I think I may have just come up with this, but you know like a house It's just a place for your stuff, right and you know your whole life as you go out

You just get more stuff and you just want to put in the when you go to a hotel It's just another place for your stuff you're bringing your stuff from one place got your stuff I'm always got stuff. That's George Carlin bit. Yes very good, Henry From hell letter was sent to George Lusk the head of the white chapel vigilance committee now to me This is a big point right if you the all of these other letters have been sent to the newspapers, right? It was easy to do with George Lusk. You have to know that he's the head of the white chapel vigilance committee

But you have to know that he's he's setting that up, right? So it's possibly somebody from the neighborhood sent this letter somebody who knows what's going on in white chapel right at the letter possibly a member of the vigilance group or Jack the rip for himself right quite possibly one and the same maybe It happens all the time, but actually journalists and the police they weren't the only ones getting letters People were sending letters all over England claiming to be Jack the Ripper They would send them into magistrates businesses hotels just private individuals Just to anybody because it's just like every single crime that any every single unsolved crime that goes on

You get this we we get this in a Boston Strangler We got this in the night stark you get this with BTK anybody looking to settle a personal beef or somebody looking to just Scare someone else. They're gonna take advantage of it. This has been going on for centuries Oh, I get letters from capital one all the time, and I'm like you're not gonna scare me capital one I'm not opening it if Jack the Ripper shows us anything. It's that people do not change We are the exact same now as we were in 1888 and you know us here in America are exactly like people back in England like it's people are the same all over and It never changes. Well, it's kind of it's both really depressing and and also very encouraging

It's come when you look back you see it again and again and again. It's like we're doing the same shit We're in the middle of that's why it's like between watching Deadwood and reading about London 1888 I'm feeling that all of that same feelings now like we're just like a weird new time period We don't dump sewage out of our windows not yet, you know, and I don't think we're ever gonna do that again Well, I mean human you don't yeah, I mean what you do Well, no one can see your face, but he's saying that he does with his eyes Fine Well, the reason why the from hell letter was taken seriously was because it arrived with something a little extra

Half a human kidney. Oh You get that in a butcher shop if you ask for a little something extra You will get a little piece of kidney and it's actually really nice. You fried up some onions. It's really nice I think it's a human kidney though. Yeah, it's a human. It is definitely a human kid We know didn't the mailman didn't the mailman feel it was a little soggy and puffy Oh, you can send body parts to the mail. You just wrap it up extra extra extra. I look like someone said another setting nuts In a goddamn envelope I honestly thought my life was fucking bad

You know, I'll get up every day my fucking male rock sack is covered in shit My fucking male boots covered in shit I've got to go from place to place people dumping beers on me because they say the mail is run by wizards And I'd seen him it like if I was run by wizards, would I be this fat? You'd make a wish and get thinner I suppose. Oh, don't hold it easy be a mailman. See now I'm a fucking organ delivery service there This is what the from hell letter said from now

Mr. Loske I Send you off the kidney. I took from one woman and preserved it for you Oh, the other piece I fried and ate it. It was very nice. I May send you the bloody knife that took it out if you only wait a while longer sign Catch me when you can mr. Loske It's the fat guy from nuns on the run Testicles spectacles wallet and watch it's the that's who did it

They're looking for a fat nude dressed as a nun. You why didn't you expect that you always think that it's a fat guy from nuns on the run That's a fat guy move no one thing would be like I have to clarify I did eat the other half and it was delicious. I did eat it and I would tell you to be honest It could have been better. I wish I honestly wish it tasted better. You could almost hear the letter breathing heavy And it is definitely Jack the Ripper was fat who killed Kennedy the fat guy from nuns on the run Who is the zodiac killer? That poor man is sitting cuz so many anonymous letters that poor actor has

Just like sitting open on me like I'm not I'm not the zodiac killer. I'm a character performer Honestly, I haven't worked in a long time. I'm mostly doing voiceover now. It's for go good commercial I don't understand why I get this harassed Well, don't I don't arrest the guy I mean, but he is guilty, but I say harass him till he fucking dies No, he might already be dead actually. I don't I'm not quite sure. Yes No, and Lusk found the letter he thought it was just a joke thinking the kidney was from a dead sheep, which it's just funny I'm happy they did this, you know to be honest. I've been feeling I've been looking for a bit of lightness I was a nice to have a break. Yeah, I guess the Kathy comic strip wasn't around yet

So you had to read something on Sunday mornings. Just don't go awake open it and go act Mondays The Lusk kept the kidney for a full day wonder and what to do with it kept it in his desk drawer Before a buddy convinced him they should take it over to a local doctor to see if it was human just for kicks All of these fucking whitechapel people are so casually horrible, right? Like he's the guy that the local the local fucking head of the what's his name? He's Ned Beatty from the burps and he's sitting there just playing with the human kidney Like it doesn't mean anything does it talk to a police officer doesn't mean like I don't know what to do with it

Like he got like he got a nude picture in the mail It's just using it as a stress reliever. I guess maybe yeah, and so they took the kidney over to the local doctor But the local doctor was out so they took it to another local doctor who ruled that it was inconclusive So those three took it over to the London hospital where it was examined and confirmed to be human And then all four of them all bundled over together to H division headquarters and delivered it to the proper authorities After taking a human kidney from place to place to place on one sunny Sunday afternoon It is like a critter Paul of dumb fucks It just gets bigger and bigger and dumber and dumber as it goes

Well cuz that's when the cops they couldn't handle whitechapel right so they just gave it to the citizens There's like a couple you had Aberdeen right the inspector the guy was ahead who was really in this shit Who's walking around and doing the best he can he was supposed to have been promoted to Scotland yard It was like the story of it's like a movie story where Aberdeen essentially was a super cop That was supposed to he was getting very quickly promoted and they're like wait actually We need to send you to whitechapel to go into that investigate the Jack the River crimes And he's like fuck because he's got to go into the worst part of the world Yeah, and I mean they just gave them they just gave all of the crime-solving fucking duties to these drunken idiots

And then Mel Gibson was his partner I can't believe he's there calling everybody sugar tits. Oh my god, five women named sugar tits Yeah, they compete with Nick Nolte and Danny Glover for the case Wild stuff. No, there is a misconception that the kidney was quote Ginny Meaning Jen full of Jen and that it had come from a female which points towards it coming from Catherine Edo's whose left kidney Was taken by the Ripper However, the Ginny line was actually a misquote by the press as the doctor who had examined the kidney had actually said that

It had been preserved in spirits rather than being spirited itself so to speak So they put it in a jar filled with Jen No, the guy who had cut wherever the human kidney came from before it was sent to George Lusk It was preserved in wine. Oh Oh Yeah, if you cook it it honestly kidney a little marinating some wine with like onions and currants and stuff like that And you cook it up to put like honestly, that'll probably really taste it I had this thing in in Atlanta called a devil pigs kidney where the waiter came up

And he's just like we got some suckling pigs in this morning and the chef wanted to do something fun So he made these like this little like devil pigs a kidney dish and ooh it was good when they saw you walk in the door That chef got so rock hard I think I found the dumpy shithead that's gonna eat this disgusting food that should be banned in the country My god, I'm reminds me of that drink I think it's in Ireland or something kiss the toe where they have that old rotten toe I think it's in Saskatchewan. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a Canadian thing. Oh a Canadian thing. Yes Very fun now while this is pointed to the from hell letter while it's pointed to as the most credible Jack the Ripper

artifact a Lot of opinions say that it was most likely a prank done by a medical student at the same London Hospital Where it was identified as human unless it was done by a doctor himself who worked at the London Hospital If we want to get into that as well and that they purposely Downgraded the spelling of the letter which we've seen now throughout all of serial killer history, right? Where it's like when they write letters like look at the BTK letters. They're purposely misspelled to sort of throw you off the track So you don't have to you can't compare the handwriting to other pieces of handwriting. Yeah, but they misspell like they will They will misspell easy words, but they will spell like

They'll spell harder words correctly cornucopia. Yeah, that's a hard word Like she had a cornucopia of guts that I played with but he misspelled guts He went G ETS gets For example in the from hell letter. It's like he misspells nice He spells it in Ise he se but on knife. He makes sure to put the K in there He's but he also misspelled knife, but he spelled it K in I f and left the e off But he remembered to put the K in there. It's weird which is the hard part of the word That's the hard part of the word right right right. Yeah

Yeah, all right now the entire month of October passed without a single murder Attributed to the repper and I actually read what there's one fact what I had heard about that was really interesting a part of The reason why this started really freaking people out at this time period is that the year before in 1887 whitechapel only had six murders and that this rash of murders was actually something that they weren't used to like this amount of Murders, which is why people were really freaking out. Yeah, cuz I mean whitechapel wasn't like a murder capital or anything like Murders did murders did happen, but it was mostly just hi. It was mostly burglaries Assaults yeah drinking drunken fights. Yeah, like it was just a horrible place So it was just the worst place in the world to be but you wouldn't get murdered. Yeah, which is actually almost worse

I mean or did they just call like a knife to the heart or a Baseball back to the back of the head. Do they just call it natural causes maybe this is the first year where they were like Maybe we should look into this thing called a whitechapel thunderstorm. Yeah, so like that So the entire month of October not a single murder, but on November 9th 1888 Jack would strike one final time in his most disgusting display of brutality yet with the murder of Mary Jane Kelly See Mary was different than all the other victims first She was younger clocking in at 25 as opposed to the others who were all in their 40s Second she was extremely attractive by all accounts

Whereas the others were a bit more on the rough side what with the missing teeth and all well, you know extremely attractive In comparison white it's really white chapel. She is a victim Mary Kelly was a beautiful woman She had a promising future But also it's why the her death gets the most attention and why the most conspiracy theories hinge on this on this death We're also because of the way she died as well Yeah, absolutely and yeah, and third Mary had her own room rather than the four penny coffins at the lodging houses Which she had rented for the last eight months of her life And that would be the room that she was murdered in

rather than all the other victims who were all murdered on the street or in in backyards Mary had shared that room in spittle fields with a fish porter named Joseph Barnett But as Joseph was often unemployed Mary resorted to prostitution to support the two quite often Joseph stuck around until Mary invited a homeless prostitute to share the room at which point Joseph moved out But stayed on friendly terms with Mary I know or was sexually obsessed with her to the point where he went ahead to kill a bunch of prostitutes in Whitechapel to discourage her from going back to prostituting to pull her back into living with him

Hong Kong next episode suspect's next episode you keep jumping ahead Stay on target for his exercise though. That's good. That's good. He can still jump. It's nice I Know that room located on Dorset Street was only 12 square feet with a fireplace Opposite the door to windows to the left and a bedside table so close to the door that would bang against the door when the door Was opened that's a good place for the fireplace opposite the door as opposed to right by the door So when you open the door The only decorations were a couple of engravings and a painting called the Fisherman's widow

Which is really sad because your boyfriend's a fisherman You your boyfriend's a fisherman. You have a painting saying the fish runs widow, which is basically like I hope you get I hope you die. Yeah, and Mary was reported to be a quiet woman until she got drunk At which point she would sing Irish songs and get into fights becoming what her friends refer to as Dark Mary. Oh, I love dark Mary. That's the only Mary. I would ever want to hang out with that was her Chris Gaines Now the last song dark Mary was hard to be singing the night of her murder was at 11 45 p.m When a neighbor heard her singing the old Irish tune a violet from mother's grave We've actually got yeah, we've got a recording not a recording of Mary Kelly

But a recording of the song a violet from mother's grave. Let's hear Actually that song is used to very chilling effect in the Jack the Ripper Museum in London Yeah, they've got an amazing room that is a a recreation of Mary Kelly's room And they play that an a cappella version of that on a loop over and over and over again It sounds like a Meryl Streep's character in that horrendous film that she might win an Oscar for Florence Jenkins or whatever. Oh so bad. I hate that movie ever saw in my life Um, but also I can see how the endless loop of that song playing Concerned the minds of the people working at the museum

I was walking a documentary yesterday called Jack the Ripper suspect uncovered and it was It had a historian a white chapel like a storied woman and she's just dressed in the bonnet Like you walk around like oh, there was a royal frame of tall and for a prosy to get snippety-snip And it's just like you're all just you have to go home at some point You have to go home to your family and you're still like this Yeah, I'm not sure who decided that was a good pitch for the human ear, but Today's sponsor for last podcast on the left is Chris all no glare lenses and thank you Chris all for sponsoring us today If you wear glasses, then you know that fingerprints smudges scratches and glares can obstruct your vision and be a huge

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Go to chris all calm to learn more of that CRIZAL.com and start living life in the clear now at 2 a.m Mary Kelly was seen by a man named George Hutchinson on commercial Street. She asked him for six pence But when he told her he had nothing to give she said she needed to make some money and walked away Hutchinson said he saw a man tapper on the shoulder and say something at which point They both started laughing as the man put his arm around Mary's shoulder the two then walked away together The last thing anyone would hear from Mary Jane Kelly would be three cries of oh

Murder at 4 a.m. Heard by a neighbor from Mary's apartment But once again, nobody paid it any more mine than they had with the death of Mary Nichols And I ask an inappropriate question of course is it possible that the oh murder is Sound she made when she orgasm. No I knew that's what the question was gonna be Well, I actually have a question now that Henry Henry. That's it. I know is it possible. It was the sound of her orgasm is that possible Marcus because that's actually an interesting question. No, it's no because she was Henry you question if

It's inappropriate Maybe oh murder is the sound she made when she orgasm. That isn't interesting But Marcus, what do you say to that? I don't never Anything is possible fucking monsters Now Jack the Ripper began with Mary Kelly as he did with all of his victims with a deep Slash to the throat this time down to the bone Although as the cry of oh murder demonstrated Jack may have relished a bit more and frightening his victim before killing her

This time The extent of the mutilation the Ripper performed on Mary as she lay in her own bed makes it nearly Impossible to tell the exact order of the slaughter It may be that the killer had escalated to the highest level or it could be that the Ripper did to Mary What he would have done to any of his victims had he had the time and privacy He's I think it was that I think what you're saying is right It's that he actually had a room to do the crime and and he had time because what we now know about product killers Is that they formulate their whole life around getting a like look at Ted Bundy, right Ted

Bunny went and he had that secluded area that he would drop the bodies off with so that he could have just Uninterrupted time with the bodies Ed Gein's house Right, it's like you have these times so in my head when I look at it It's that because what do we what do we learn again from Jeffrey Dahmer? There's no real There's no real peak of escalation at some point. There's just despair But but at that point Jeffrey Dahmer was becoming like a dark old magic lord in his mind He built an altar bodies. Yes. Yeah, he was a full altar in his apartment So there was more room to go for Jack the Ripper if he wanted so I feel like this is just an example of he was

Yeah, the opportunity. Yeah, mm-hmm So this is what he actually did to Mary Kelly He skinned her thighs and hacked away at the muscle before mutilating her arms in the same way He opened the stomach and removed the intestines laying them to the right side of her body He took out the spleen and set it to the left with the liver being set between her feet He cut off her breasts and set one by her right foot the other He set under her head with her uterus and kidneys as opposed to the seemingly careful mutilation of Katherine Eddow's The Ripper hacked away at Mary Kelly's face until she could only be identified by her eyes and her ears

The only thing Jack the Ripper took with him from Mary Kelly's room was Mary Kelly's heart. Oh My goodness and a bunch of memories I guess I guess he did Disgusting, I don't I'm not trying to make I don't know what I don't know what to say Make a joke about Tony Bennett's left my heart in San Francisco, but I don't think we're not doing that No, that is so I mean this is what he would have done to all or something similar Yeah, if he had the time I mean and it's also possible that you know with Katherine Eddow's You know he made that the slits in her eyelids right did a little V's underneath her eyes I mean it could be that he started to work on Mary Kelly in the exact same way

But then just kept going like further and further and further and further so now anytime and we also saw this tried He cut off the tip of her nose and a lot of people point to is that this is Indication that he had some sort of venereal disease that he was possibly at syphilis Which a lot of time involves face rot like the tip your nose falls off You get these weird calluses and boils all over your face and so there's this idea that a part of the killings were Revenge for giving him some sort of disease say or he believed that a prostitute gave him a sexual transsexual transmitted disease And so he was doing that as a kind of symbolic Like fuck you we should expand on that for the next episode too. That's interesting. Mm-hmm very interesting

That's a big part of my favorite. So I mean as far as the actual dying goes It's pretty quick for the victim. It's every single time. It is immediate That's what he does. He wants to he slits their throat as fast as he can so he can get to the body because that's all He cares about so he's a product killer. Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's the product It's also like Richard Chase, you know like Richard Chase, you know those people died almost instantly He kills them as fast as he possibly can because it's not about the kill It's not like Andre chickatillo, right? It was a torture. It was a process killer, right? You know who really relishes the hunt of it, you know, that's what makes him hard

With these guys it is all about killing them as soon as they possibly can because like Dahmer Didn't really kill anybody in a particularly brutal fashion He was he would get himself blackout drunk. Yeah, right in order to even do it You know the whole point was just to get because it's about control. Yeah, well, he's about having a having possession Yeah, so he did drill bits in people's brain He did do the drill bit in the acid in the brain and all that but that was pretty extreme That oh no, it's that was his open mic time. Oh, yeah, that's yeah working on his tight five But on the other hand somebody like Gacy Gacy relished in the

In tricking them, you know doing the the tying the rope trick and all that type of shit and then you know strangling him He was all about the the process of it I'm Mary Kelly's body was found at 1045 a.m. By Thomas Indian Harry bowyer her landlords assistant No upon getting no answer from knocking on the door to collect rent Indian Harry looked through the window and saw the horrific scene Police showed up with Baxter Phillips who took one look in the window and said I Satisfied that the mutilated corpse lying on the bed was not in need of any immediate attention from me It was that a joke by the detective who found a woman lying on her own breast. Yeah Good, it's funny. Well, he's funny little last podcast than the left joke

Interesting just like your father used to tell jokes like that all the time Henry Pops have very dark senses of humor. Yes Now the constables waited outside for two hours thinking they would soon be joined by a pair of bloodhounds that the Metropolitan Police had commissioned to aid in the capture of Jack the Ripper should another murder occur That's what they thought is that if a murder occurs we can bring out the bloodhounds They can get on the scent and we can zip them after the Ripper and find this guy Only thing was the bloodhounds named burgo and Barnaby Well then it takes it takes them longer to get ready because they got to put four shoes on

Well burgo and Barnaby were 200 miles away with their owner who when no murder had occurred in the month of October He just got bored and decided to go home without telling anybody Oh, man Yeah, so at 1 30 p.m. Police when they finally found out no bloodhounds were coming they opened the locked door with an axe and Found Mary lying in the middle of the bed with her shoulders flat her legs open and her head turned on the left cheek Interesting that the door was locked from the inside Very interesting. Although it would have been extremely easy to reach the RMN through the broken window If they did

If they did it because there was one of her windows was broken Yeah, because it was a 12 by 12 room. It was tiny the window was right next to the door. Maybe he escaped That's the whole point was y'all know Measurements reverse reverse Santa Claus escape escape through the fireplace go up Yeah, no photographer was brought in and that photographer took the very first crime scene photo ever taken in England a Photo that is still one of the most famous and gruesome ever to be taken now There's a few things about this murder scene It is odd that the final murder occurred inside could it be that the Ripper chose to marry

Specifically because she had a home or did he just get lucky? How many women did he try before Mary Kelly? Did he go out that night looking for somebody with a private room? Did it just so happen that he asked Mary Kelly and Mary Kelly took him to this private room? And is it a coincidence that the one who got it the worst was also the youngest and the only one who was conventionally attractive or Could it be that Mary Kelly? Wasn't murdered by the Ripper at all Every time I hear every time I hear the words could it be I just immediately imagine ancient aliens Like what could it be the screams of the innocent?

We're fueling a spacecraft We'll answer these questions and more and our final episode of Jack the Ripper Oh my god What even though people have written literally hundreds of books about Jack the Ripper and each one has their own separate completely Decades-long research answer, which are also completely different from each other books We are going to come up with the conclusive answer to the identity of Jack the Ripper next week Yeah, I'm gonna figure it out by Thursday fat guy from Nones on the run and Julia Childs work together work together and they were each other in the mean in the mean with while absolutely

All right. Well great great episode fun stuff We have to I want to say thank you to everybody who came out to our show in Philadelphia. Absolutely. It was so awesome meeting everyone So and I will say I just want to say I did not get Philadelphia fever No, anybody in that whole town. So gradually and to the couple who asked me to work their wedding If that can work, I would love to officiate the wedding. Yeah, it'll be a wonderful time Yeah, that'd be a lot of fun, man. You got it. We got to get you all worked up with what is it the Metropolitan Life Church? Yes, I'll do that. I now pronounce you man and dog. Oh, that's not my wedding never mind I would love to marry a dog, but you can't do it. You want to marry a dog if that's what you're saying

I would you want to marry? Yeah, because then you're only married for a maximum of like 11 years because dogs die Wait, that's what that's why you date someone you've got to marry someone with cancer. Yes, or an elderly person You get a tragic end. Yeah, and then you're single with a sad edge. That's right Yeah, Philadelphia. So awesome. What a great union transfer great venue and my god It was so it's such an honor and and so it's always so wonderful just talking everyone Yeah, and speaking of which this Saturday, we're gonna be in Kansas City, Missouri Planned at Panic Fest. We're doing two shows

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