Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 281: Jerry Brudos Part I - Dump Fever

Episode Date: August 18, 2017

It's time for little-known Heavy Hitter Jerry Brudos aka The Shoe Fetish Slayer! Join us as we follow little Jerry through his fungus-covered early life in Oregon all the way up to Jerry's first murder, committed right under the nose of his family.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last time on the left That's when the cannibalism started I gotta tell you what man big hook from fresh out yeah He says that you cannot be funny in jail really yes He says that people that are funny in jail are just chuckle heads try to make a gas at everything They don't take anything seriously. They're the ones who are getting their butt cheeks spread They're the ones get their way split. Oh You have to take it seriously and you got to teach yourself something you got to go into the law room

And that's where you start reading if you can't be funny in jail. I'll do great there All right, this is the last podcast on the left everyone. I've been kiss all that's Marcus parks Hey, and we got Henry's a Browsky over in Los Angeles man big. Herk is so serious He's so serious, and he's so intense and he learned a lot and he always says like I did 120 months in Jail instead of 10 years, and there's something about saying 120 months. It's so much more powerful That's a lot of months. That is a lot of months speaking of serious. We got a big topic today We're talking about the shoe fetish slayer aka Jerry Brutus Oh Brutus Brutus I like Brutus better Brutus that's not even close to what his name is

Brutus and Brutus that's close to what his name is. It's not accurate, but it's close And I think I deserve some credit for that Well Jerome Jerry Brutus aka the shoe fetish slayer was an Oregonian serial killer who kidnapped and murdered four women in just a little over a Year in 1968 in 1969 acting as a shocking precursor to the mass amounts of serial killing to come over the next decade Yeah, this guy was an OG this guy was doing it before anybody else was doing it But brother at the same time out as the Boston Strangler, correct? Years before the Boston Strangler the Boston Strangler was the early 60s early to mid 60s. We see the first celebrity Serial killer really wasn't even that big of a celebrity in fact Albert DeSalvo is much better known than Jerry Brutus was Jerry Brutus is one

Of those serial killers that just kind of got swept away into the dustbin of history and honestly I believe it's because it all happened around the same time as the Manson murders Or at least he was caught around the same time as the Manson murders And they were both West Coast stories So the Manson murders just overtook Jerry Brutus and Jerry Brutus has kind of been resigned to the dustbin of history Yeah, or more like the weird-ass Chewbox filled with saliva drippings of history because he loves shoes More than a melda Marcos more than a Steve Madden even because I don't even think Steve Madden never came on a heel

I don't think so more than a Zha Zha Gabor even so he sort of got the treatment that Farrah Fawcett got when Michael Jackson died Everyone made such a big deal on a fear of Fawcett was filming herself for months And then she's like it's finally the conclusion which is theoretically her death and then Michael Jackson took all the headlights Well all of Jerry's murders were either committed in or near his garage That was only a padlock away from the house He shared with his wife and two children the Benton County District Attorney in Oregon said this about Jerry Brutus Jerome Brutus is the personification of cold deliberate evil It was like a two-headed snake or a chicken with five legs

Why God created that type of creature? I have no idea Except maybe to feed more people I am actually not even really sure how that's evil Just having five legs. A five-legged chicken sounds incredible. That's fantastic. Yeah It is it will fix so much shit Yeah, it should have been that way and that's why God does make mistakes In this fucking fake-ass reality. I love that the worst thing this guy could think of is a five-legged chicken This man murdered four women

Well Jerome Henry Brutus was born in Webster, South Dakota just prior to America's entrance into the Second World War The family lived on farms in those early days But his father a five-foot-five red-headed man named Henry had an explosive temper and a hard time keeping a job Well, maybe it was because no one wanted to listen to him People said that his beliefs were horseshit and that everything he says is a distraction from real life. Yeah, that the his idea That people don't want to investigate into the true conspiracies that run this planet is a smoke screen Uh-huh, and that's what it's allowing you to live all your fucking puppet lives. Maybe that's why his father got No, why do I feel like you're talking about yourself there? That is funny

Jerry's mother Eileen was just as bad if not worse the Brutus is already had a boy Larry and Jerry an accident was hoped to be a girl But when he got pushed out of that better old vagina and had a penis he began life as a disappointment Yeah, he's the same as the rest of us. Yeah, I can relate to that Now Brutus certainly isn't alone in the serial killer roundup and having a mother that was disappointed in her child's gender both Charles Manson and Henry Lucas were dressed up as little girls by their mother and Little known serial killer Carol Cole aka the bar fly strangler Was dressed up as a girl and made to serve drinks to his mother and her horrible friends

I mean, they all just learned it from watching flip Wilson Comedy of the time Dressed the boy up like a girl have him serve in drinks. That's good humor. This is the thing I Understand this is a bad thing to do to a child make him serve drinks dressed up in a fancy dress But my parents ignored him at least they included him in their lives. Your parents ignored you But I mean this guy was learning a skill. Yeah, what do you mean was learning a skill to be a waitress? That is a vocational training

On the job train. That's it. Maybe that's why I became the bar fly strangler could be Oh, well cover we might cover the bar fly strangler in an upcoming episode There's not a whole lot of information out there about him But what we do have is actually pretty fascinating. We might have to have him in like a little serial killer hodgepodge round Now the Brutus family eventually landed in Oregon and because Henry was constantly either working or looking for work Jerry was left alone with Eileen and his older brother Larry who got special treatment over Jerry at every turn Eileen would openly doubt on her older son in front of Jerry making sure he knew which son She loved the most from a very young age all because he wasn't born a girl

Now you might say the father could have said something at any time But despite being an angry little man He was still terrified of his wife just as Larry was so they let her torture little Jerry as much as she pleased now Henry Are you her Marcus? Are you sure you're not reading from the Zabrowski diaries? Henry is this your life? No, because when my father saw me all dressed up in my phantom outfit He got very mad notice. This is the problem. No, my father was just that he was not afraid of my mother He was just too busy having a great time. Uh-huh with other people It's one way to survive a marriage, I guess

So when Jerry was five he was playing in the dump as is a perfectly normal activity for a five-year-old boy to do sounds defensive Sounds very defensive Well, I know you guys have made fun of me before about playing in the dump and how awesome it is and I guarantee you There's gonna be quite a few listeners who come to my side to say that playing in the dump is a wonderful childhood activity Absolutely, because you just happen to live in a less classy version of slumdog millionaire Yeah, you're supposed to play in places called playgrounds dumps or for dumps But that's fine. Just because you play in a dump doesn't mean you can't play in a playground

Well, I think people don't want you to play ground after you play in a dump Now there in the dump Jerry would find something that would change the course of his life a pair of patent leather heels Decorated with rhinestones now We don't know what it was exactly about these shoes that drew Jerry's attention Could be that Jerry already had a healthy foot fetish gone and these were just the upgraded version of his mother's drab flat I am pretty certain it was the rhinestones Rhinestones are made to give things attention. That's the point and this is difficult You know these rhinestones shoes in the 60s. That's not bedazzled. That's quality rhinestones. That is quality

That's quality Jerry took him home put him on and strutted around the house in front of his mother just trying to be cute But instead of laughing like any normal person would Eileen was horrified and made him promise to take them back to the dump You once you are soaring in the sky though. Do you tell do you tell a bird to take off its wings? He understood immediately. It was like me as a performer He was a born performer like all he had to do was like just let him dance and maybe he could have been a podcast comedian So his mother is hanging out at home here. Her son comes home like pig pen from peanuts Just wearing a bunch of shoes and then at the end it concludes with him having to drop them back off at the dump Go back to the dump take the shoes back to the dump. What a childhood story we've all shared

Well, he did in a course he loved him too damn much And so he hit him away and when she found him wearing them again. She took him outside and burned the shoes in front of him while Telling him how dirty of a boy he was being. Oh One FBI profiler reckoned that when the mother burned the shoes Brutus his sexuality got fused with feelings of aggression and hatred which later manifested itself as first rape and assault and then Eventually serial murder. It seems like a deleted scene from that black hole son music video Well, they're burning the Barbies and everything else It's just some about being called a dirty nasty boy and having your favorite things just destroyed in front of you

That makes you a harder than a little fucking slab of granite. That's not fair to do to a child Now the technical term for foot fetishism is pod Ophelia it is the most common form of sexual partialism Partialism meaning being attracted to the parts of people that are of a non-reproductive nature like ears or noses or elbows So we we shouldn't start calling our listeners potophiliacs No, okay, not yet. Yeah, that's how we get specific permission. I see now according to sociologist Martin Weinberg Potophilia usually stems from an experience the child has playing with their parents foot Which makes sense considering how much time kids spend down there

Yeah, how much time did you spend down there Marcus? I don't know as much as any kid does I did it for four seconds And I was like, I'm never gonna rub my mother's feet I just can't imagine just sitting at the base of my father's recliner just playing with his feet being like yeah He's like a little manicurist. I love seeing my son play with my heels The stuff that I love better going back to the boys to tell my yeah me and my son at some good quality foot playing time yesterday Very disturbing Well, I mean either way watch out parents anything and everything you do could one day

conceivably become a sexual fetish for your child Think about that when you play with your children Exactly look at what my mother's love of Barry Manlow did to my sister But shoe fetish is called Retifism which is more Jerry speed for Jerry the foot is a little more than a vessel for the shoe And as we'll see later not even the body was required for Jerry to get what he needed So when Jerry's first pair of heels were burned by his mother he went searching elsewhere He discovered that his first grade teacher kept a pair of heels in her desk

Just in case she had a hot date after school with a local fly boy Well, I don't know what a fly boy at the fly girls were on in living color J. Lo very talented group But now what the heck is a fly boy boy? It's in World War two. So there's a bunch of pilots. They're all running around Pilots I see I didn't realize they were called fly boys. It's the 1960s version of fuck boy This is still 50s. This is or this is still 40s. This is like 1943 44 1940s version of fuck boy. So this is the day they just call that and you just eventually just becomes your husband Yeah, these this is the greatest generation that I've heard so much about Interesting a Jerry grabbed the shoes when she wasn't looking and hid them under a pile of blocks

So he could take them home later, but they were discovered by another kid before Jerry could secret them away Jerry didn't confess for days and we when he finally did he found the teacher wasn't really angry was just more confused than anything But still the whole thing left him humiliated and he had one more negative emotion to attach to his burgeoning fetish This guy the This this the kid that found the shoes. He's a snitch And I don't like him. I mean what if we just let Jerry have the shoes Well, I don't think the kid actually snitched on him. I think it's like teacher. What are your shoes doing on all these blocks? Shut up

Those are my special shoes and this is before for a scum before then it all be like oh like for a scum But not all of his relationships with women were humiliating He forged a friendship as sometimes kids do with an older woman who lived nearby and didn't treat him like an abomination Jerry would sometimes pretend the woman was his mother But unfortunately she had diabetes and got sicker and sicker throughout their friendship until finally she couldn't have visitors anymore And if that wasn't enough Jerry's best friend a little girl died from tuberculosis the same year Hold on a second. So he's only two friends in the world one died of diabetes and one died of tuberculosis. Yeah, oh I guess he had a lot of shoes. Did he get any shoes out of it?

I don't know. I'm trying to find some silver lining here for the poor kid. This is all the time with these serial killers I have to remember they murdered people because it tends to be sad in the beginning. It's always sad Of course, it is very sad, but he also took these these two deaths as a Rejection like these things made him mad when she died of tuberculosis that little girl He blamed the universe and he blamed her for going on and being like basically you you like went away for me You you left me alone Which is a weird fuel that eventually later on we find out he carries this weird longing for this older woman and this little girl Throughout the rest of his life. Hmm. Yeah, when he talked about the burning of the shoes

He always brought up the diabetes woman and the tubercular locus girl He couldn't talk about one without talking about the other two It was very bizarre how interlinked all three of these were and it was very similar to son of Sam with his mother It was kind of all connected back where he got spanked and that made him real hard for that fucking little shoe He'd think about the shoes that made him real really hard And he the two most positive women in his life both just leave him and then all of a sudden likes on the same with the mother leaving It's become solidified like women are the enemy and how old are we talking here five? Okay, so pretty formative years. Oh very very in there

Now Brutus was generally a pretty gross kid His fingers and toes were so beset by fungal infections that he needed several surgeries to fix the problem You can shake my hand now because it seemed to be my problem is fixed and my Charity and sincerity as a person is no longer catching The fungus is gone. The fungus is gone. That is what I'm trying to say beautiful beautiful hands That was in addition to the ballooned veins on his leg that required two more surgeries No, no, no other children. There's nothing wrong with the balloons in my legs It's like I'm an upside down old man from up. It is just very nice

I Love the way that Jerry Brutus as a child sort of turns into Charles in the end Jerry had measles constant sore throats and migraines so bad You can count on Jerry to spew vomit on a fairly regular basis. He literally is a South Park character. Yes Yes, he is. What I do like is every time he throws up He's just trying he's saying he's dropping weight so he could fly up because of the balloons in his legs You know what I mean? He's just dropping weight. I Get it. No, his IQ was slightly above average

But like a lot of these guys he was a bit of a dullard in school and as his mother was quick to remind him Jerry never got as good of grades as Larry. Just saying every time it makes him hard You know, I got to say this interesting thing that my parents did regarding raising me My mom would always say sees get degrees and they never showed me my report card Isn't that amazing? I kind of love it. They were just like we're happy. You're breathing. Are you in school breathing? We're so proud of you, Ben. They wanted you to die suicide bombing an abortion clinic That is possible. I do think that my parents would be very proud of me if I did that

Yes, they would be more proud of you for suicide bombing a suit an abortion clinic Well with my two gay older brothers and if I did that they would say yeah, he's the good one our favorite Yeah, that's probably true in a sad way. I would love to see that press conference So when Jerry was in first grade his parents had a neighboring family with a teenage daughter over for a visit The daughter wasn't feeling well So she went upstairs to the bedroom to take a nap Jerry walked into the room while she was asleep and saw that she was wearing High heels he tried taking them off, but she woke up Understandably freaked out that a little boy was trying to steal her shoes and she ordered him out of the room

No, no, no, no, no, I'm not telling you today I'm like the Tooth Fairy saying yeah, it's it for feet. Yeah Cuz think about this cuz code in the 1950s for not feeling well is that she's on her period Yeah, she went up there to sleep off her period, which is I think a thing that you can do I'm not an expert on the female body. I don't think you are you can't just sleep for five days Sometimes it's good. You just put it I think a way to cure it is that you put like a sack over their head like a canary and they just go right to sleep I don't know. No, I know you don't know because you've said nothing of reason

I don't know. Yes, obviously But the idea of that she went up there to kind of sleep it off And then you just got this little weird boy coming in cuz he's like five years old Yeah, yeah, so stealing your shoes and smelling in them So she's up there like Carmen Electra when she was dating Prince forced to sleep with high heels and a full wedding gown Is this the first time that he's ever actually gone and Taking it off of a person. Yep. So this is an escalation. This is the very first time That Jerry Brutus is ever actually I wouldn't say necessarily say attacked another human being

But this is the first time he's actually interacting with the human being Jerry Brutus is a case study an escalation You can see throughout his life He slowly inches his way towards serial murder starting at five years old For a time Jerry had a partner in all this He moved next door to a family with a couple of teenage daughters and Jerry and the girls brother would sneak into their room To play with the girls clothes, you know trying them on trying to be funny having a good time It is fine. It is sort of normal in a way I think it's normal for me but for boys to be curious about sure. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense

I mean, I used to dress up. Sure. What was that? No, I want to hear what you were just about to say I want to hear that. Yeah. Yeah, I used to dress up as a ninja Yeah, that was fine and sometimes I put my later hosin on that's a whole nother story. Yeah, you're later hosin. Yeah Yeah What do you mean you're later hosin? I had later hosin. Why did you have later hosin? It's hosin. It's hosin You can wear now or later. It's later hosin He comes from the lineage of people that are are bravely defending those beautiful statues Don't even go there. I've been getting death threats for my appearances on that wonderful Fox News channel

Yes, Ben has been getting death threats for Nuts being against Nazis standing up for what he believes in god damn who would have thought 2017 don't offend the Nazis Don't you offend those Nazis? I guess they are consumers With him and his boyfriend his friend as a kid going and stealing these clothes It was sort of like porkies like think about how they used to have a frat guys used to have the whole pep panty raids Nights with he used to go out and break into the girls dorms and it was fun and innocent But I guess technically it never was no. It just was at the time But now it's not yes. Yes absolutely you go back you watch porkies or even animal house

You're like felony felony. That's a felony. That's a felony and we got another felony definitely felony No, it might be that this experience Jerry had with his friend breaking it or going into the little boys Sisters rooms playing with the clothes This might be Jerry's first experience with cross-dressing which will become a lifelong obsession But it must be remembered that Jerry was just a little kid when all this was going on He hadn't yet associated his fetish with sexual feelings as he had none And that's not to say that cross-dressing is always sexual. It isn't but in the case of Jerry Brutus. It most definitely

Yeah, big time. He said that later on he said that during these times when he would play with women's clothes He would get a funny feeling and that it Blossomed it just fucking ripped out of the ass Into a big old sexual fetish now all Jerry knew was that even possessing women's clothing and shoes was considered dirty and forbidden But it made him feel good So when sexuality came in a bloom that feeling of pleasure was associated with a deep deep shame And as our man Peter Franske points out in the method in madness of monsters He points out the parapherias a lot of times are associated with shame and when you combine shame with the hatred of women for making

You feel that shame along with a sense of abandonment along with frustration and violent tendencies You get a man like Jerry Brutus. That's a soup. That's a soup. That's a soup right there getting into the soup now I am wondering why did he feel such shame when it comes to wearing the dresses and the shoes? Is he was he trying to Was he trying to appease his mother? It wasn't really that I mean first of all It was his mother you know his mother hated him openly hated him and she he and as he grew older he came to openly despise her Well, I actually telling her that he did not like her. He did not love her But it's also you gotta remember it's 19. It's the mid 1950s mid to late 1950s

You know this shit wasn't socially acceptable The word fetish wasn't even a word that most people knew in the 1950s The only thing that we knew was Barry Goldwater loved to get spanked with needles Just a paddle full of nails, but also what did we learn from Star Wars? What it's not hate, but a deep deep love a part of the whole this whole Storyline is that he of course loved his fucking mother so much and he did desperately want her to her approval Especially through childhood and then that naughty naughty boy was always dancing around in ladies clothes And it's just ooh, it's just me. It was against all the rules

And that really fucking got right in there that colonel got along right in the back of his throat. I'm uncomfortable I I personally feel uncomfortable Well, a lot of people when you know, they Discovered their fetish from their kid. A lot of them described that funny feeling Before they actually hit puberty and start to develop sexual feelings They describe that that funny feeling and of course like the vast vast majority of fetishes are totally normal absolutely fine Nothing wrong with it, but when they blossom into Killing women to make them your living dolls

When it's a problem. That's the red line. I agree. Yeah, I agree. That's the red line That's the red line, right? I do believe that there were several Tony Bennett songs about that little funny feeling But we didn't realize so later on is that what Tony Bennett was just fucking he had women's panties just jammed All the way up the crack of his ass and love San Francisco And I'm just talking about the city. He just love the structure of the city. Oh, yeah, it's a beautiful city architecture Yeah, thanks everyone who came out to our show at outside lands. Yeah, it was actually amazing. We had a fantastic time there Metallica It's very tired. Yes. Yes, and I saw the who which was fun who were not tired at all No, despite being older than Metallica. What about the allegations Pete Townsend? I know we're not gonna talk about it

So when Jerry got to be a teenager he found a box of his brother's home-made pornography Hmm apparently Larry was quite the artist and had a taste for the shoe as well as he had drawn a number of pictures of Lois Lane naked while wearing heels This is like the equivalent of when we were gonna talk about the internet when we were kids about how like you had to wait for Your mom to get off the phone and the dial up to get there It's like when her grandparents used to say it took like two miles to be like this is how old school was in order to see titties You had to draw that yeah, but it would only it would only be similar to the internet if you're watching your brother draw The titties the face and you're like, oh, this is getting really good and then he draws a dick

That was just like the Internet of the 90s was just like super hot super hot Before that we had to wait until one of our friends fathers left the family and left his entire pornography collection behind Well, we got some good news some good news about the divorce Son, here's a here's a disgusting Gar a garbage bag. It's exactly what it was your father left a garbage bag of pornography in the shed It's yours now. My older sister's first husband gave me a garbage bag filled with nugget magazine Which is tow truck driver porn Wow

About those drawings Larry kept him locked away, but Jerry managed to Jimmy the lock and was taken a look when his mother caught Him in the act Jerry knew his mother would never believe Larry had drawn the pictures So he just owned up to it and took all the blame. He's like, yeah drew the pictures. Yeah, I was looking at him Whatever and that's really cool of Jerry. Yeah, because he didn't throw it It's like honestly He didn't throw his brother under the bus him and Larry actually had a pretty strong Relationship at some point where Larry was like you got to stop even worrying about mom mom's never gonna like you Like he was trying to level with him and be like, I'm great

Right. I know that everybody loves Larry you Jerry. You're on the B team. I don't understand Why do I gotta be on the B team? It's because you were born wrong. You did everything wrong You don't have any social skills and you're not good at anything and frankly, I can't even publicly hang out with you But you know, it's always though the favorite one that has more boring life They go about the normal way of living and it's always the young one that the parents are just like I don't know should we have kept him should we not have and then when they get a paycheck when you're 40 years old For a million bucks, then they're grateful. They had you. I'll tell you that much. I'm not talking personally I'm not foreshadowing the future with my parents. They'll be happy. They had me

Jerry said he never masturbated as a teenager But rather was a victim of almost constant nocturnal emissions And when his mother would discover the stains, she would make him hand wash his sheets while berating him Just making them harder and harder every single time. It's just like you're just making the perfect serial killer diamond right now Yeah, I guess so, but you know, I suppose it's kind. I don't know you clean your sheets Yeah, but you don't berate. No, you shouldn't berate and in fact, you know, you're it's a teenager Teenagers have wet dreams. That's just how it goes It's part of a parent's job to just wash the sheets and nobody says a word about it. That is very true

Yeah, you should never berate your kid like Gomer Pyle Like you're Lee army and he's Gomer Pyle. Yeah, I will tell you what you know how you don't have nocturnal emissions You start jerking off when you're seven like I did Yeah, I started jerking off real early and I just got it out. I fucking emptied the shotgun at every single time So would not accidentally go off and commit suicide in my bed Well, we're gonna we're gonna chart we're gonna mark that as knowledge. I didn't want Write that down. Yeah, let's put file that you're seeing Henry's penis. Yep. Oh terrible memories have been bullied I'm gonna squeeze that right in and a bad football practice. It's going right between those two

Just me jerk it off. So my mom does it my mom is outside of the bathroom trying to get in there I'm jerking off looking at Jenny McCarthy on the cover of TV guide at my feet. I'm eight years old Just having a grand old time. Thank you for expanding on the idea This is when Jerry started fantasizing about committing acts of violence against women playing the old I can't kill my mother. So I'll kill others card We saw specifically and that old bumblebutt and Kimper who has actually quite a bit in common with Brutus But instead of killing his grandparents Brutus started off a little smaller than Ed Kimper See Ed Kimper, of course, I

He he had that whole like transference thing, you know, like first he killed his grandparents And then when he got out of the asylum, he went back to live with his mother His mother of course was horrible berated him the entire time for more on Ed Kimper go listen or series on Ed Kimper Yes, but Ed Kimper eventually took out all of his frustrations on Co-eds on young girls and eventually ended up taking it out on his mother And you wonder if Jerry Brutus had gone on a little longer if he might have done the same thing Interesting. It's also sort of like what I'm discovering is that there's a whole other Category of serial killer that I am now starting to realize it's a baby Huey type of serial killer

It's Kemper son of Sam Brutus Gary Ridgway is very similar. He's kind of soft bodies big fat flat-faced dumb shit guys that are all like Like it's flappy real flappy loose-bodied pieces of shit. These are the guys that are out there They're they're all doing these weird mommy crimes. Yeah, I see. So we have to add a new character a new category baby Huey's That's interesting and maybe Gacy's in there as well close He just looks like a baby gay. Gacy is his has a lot more to do with his father. Yeah He's a mad. He's a mad mad at himself for being gay killer. Yeah, and that's also a whole other category Okay, Jerry Brutus his career started off when he dug a tunnel near his house

Which he dreamed about using as a dungeon to keep female prisoners What's interesting about this is that this age Jerry had no actual concept of sex Aside from what he'd seen farm animals do and that's a really disgusting and shameful way to describe fellow Oregonians Out in society you just don't call them animals just because they're from Oregon. That's horrible of him I'm a big fan of Oregon. So he just it's an Oregon Oregon. I always say a rung or a gun or a gun I actually heard it's it's a it's a it's a ray gun. It's a ray gun. It's a ray gun. Oh, yeah, a ray gun

Is that right a ray gun? I have no idea So he's just watching a bunch of animals have sex with each other and I assume in public education here They're not really going through sex ed and the normal sort of process. Absolutely not He grew up he grew up on farms Of course he saw animals having sex, but he didn't know that was any sort of erotic thing he had he hadn't yet made the connection between What's between his own legs and what's between the dog's legs? Oh my? disgusting I didn't say hot stuff. I said, oh my it's one of my three go-tos and I'm disgusted

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In addition to building the tunnel Jerry also started slipping into women's houses while they were asleep to steal their clothes and shoes He'd also take drying panties from clothesline. He also said he never masturbated to orgasm which is very strange and he would fondle these and I just don't understand Maybe it's just because I don't have this fetish, but I don't really understand how it's just sexual to sit and rub Cloth together because when I wear clothes, I'm covered in cloth always and nothing makes me less horny than wearing a shirt Yeah, it's it's interesting. So he has this shoe fetish all he wants to do is hear women scream It's just unfortunate the cranberries weren't to ban them because I think he could just listen to them over and over again I feel totally satisfied with everything. Jerry, how many times do we have to listen to this cranberries album?

I'm so sick of it. This is the only album that fucking gets it The cranberries get the effect. They got the real skills to keep it going and most he's got to do with that Irish woman that looks like she's been kept inside of a cage The woman the lead singer from the cranberries looks like she's been kept inside of a cage for a very long time She looks malnourished. I love the cranberries, but yes Well, but telling Lee Jerry said he never once even thought about touching his mother's clothing Thank God It could have been out of fear

But I think one line from Jerry says it all in a jailhouse interview Jerry said almost in a pout He never never wore high heels So in Jerry's mind, this is an insult to his mother well and Jerry well She isn't she's just not as tight wasn't there a serial killer who commented to a woman that he she he would not kill her as an Insult I forget there there was some jailhouse interview we can move on I forget the killer But he's like I wouldn't even kill you and it was very funny seems like something you saw in lockdown. Yes, it could be locked up Yeah, locked up. Yeah, it's great John MSNBC on Sunday So yeah, so Jerry's mother like she wasn't his type at all

But the clothes he did steal he hid away and later evidence from the murders would suggest that he moved some of this Stuff from house to house for damn near two decades Now unfortunately Jerry hadn't gotten any more attractive as he grew into his teenage years He was covered in acne officially diagnosed as acne vulgaris. I love the doctors. Just like let's make it sound worse than it is We'll call it acne vulgaris just in case he thought about having a date Hey, but I bet this idea. I think about we call it acne. No, fuck them As acne and no fuck of mums. They'll never fuck of them, right? Is that a good idea? I like on guys. Let's get these pieces of shit with pimples

It's a war on pimples Jerry was also clumsy and he was pudgy and had a bit of a piggy face You don't talk about the piggy face, right? Yeah, of course. I do. He also continually talked about the silent majority He's the newt gingrich of serial killers He looks a lot like newt gingrich. He does. He does. Well, he was described as having a moon face as well And not like a Ray Charles from Pepsi Cool moon face, right like one the weird like smashing pumpkins video moon face Tripped to the moon moon face. Oh, and all of this all these physical problems. This is all along being ridiculously shy

But still like all teenage boys Jerry wanted to see a girl naked But instead of patiently waiting for the right gal to come along Jerry pulled something that was both extremely dumb and Extremely sinister all at the same time first He broke into a teenage girl's house and stole her underwear Then the next day he went to her house and knocked on the door When she answered he told her that he was an undercover police officer assigned to catch a neighborhood Panty thief so assigned because nobody would expect a 17-year-old boy to be an undercover police officer I would love to be there ma'am

My name is off the moon Absolutely, ma'am. I don't mean it's a wrap. Am I interrupting any? No, you seem a little bit young to me No, I do don't I don't absolutely yeah, of course I do but what I have here is the heaviest bag Fill with your most silky most forbidden panties. I don't know how I got them But I will say I'm one of the first of the young brigade. I was you recently invited into the FBI female body inspectors

And they want to make sure that your panties are safe and warm inside your bodice You're saying yeah, you know, I completely believe that you're an undercover officer But can you just explain what happened at the FBI for training if you want to get into that a little bit? They just say hey, hey, hey, do you have a fucking good unbelievable need for elastic and satin? And I'm like I'm you get it. I'm a cop there. I guess I'm a cop Jerry told her to come to his house when no one was home so they could discuss the case further Because if anyone were to see them together He might get his cover blown and the whole operation would go up in flames

Hmm now the girl figured Jerry Brutus for harmless. She just played along more out of boredom than anything It's like yeah, let's just see what this fat weirdo has to say why not and maybe I'll get my fucking panties back Let's just see well I mean it didn't hurt that he looked like Dennis Franz from NYPD. Well actually and rule wrote in the lust killer where We get a lot of this information. She wrote that at that age Jerry Brutus just looked like a big clown Yeah, he was a big weird goofy guy at this point It's just like a porno version of the little rascals where you don't have to change any of the names Which is great. I mean this is still right now. We are in porkies

Okay, like this is firmly like this is the deleted act And this is the deleted plot line of porkies, right? Oh, I see but that girl greatly Underestimated what young Jerry Brutus was capable of when the girl knocked on the door and went into the house Jerry called her upstairs when she got there. She found an empty room and as she walked around confused Jerry jumped out of the closet wearing a mask knife in hand He ordered her to take off all her clothes and once she was naked He took an entire film rolls worth of pictures before running out of the room Then thinking he was being clever

He ran back inside without the mask on doing the fake heavy breathing thing as the girl was running down the stairs Because he told and he told her that someone with the mask on had locked him in the barn. Are you okay? That is so scary. Yeah, you just think about the idea because it does sound like a little bit It does sound like a childhood prank It sounds like a little kid's idea of a way to see a woman naked and you even as weird little boys You could see like friends talking about that horrible shit before you start realizing that that is wrong to do before Society politely eventually tells you you don't do that kind of shit He he he kind of had that weird confidence to do it

Which is essentially I guess the x-factor that made him a serial killer. Well, so now we have some real escalation happening here So we got that we're we starting at the dump. Yeah, then we're going to the sleeping girl and now we're here live action Really and sort of set the scene here really created this entire theatrical event. Yeah, yeah, we're going for I mean really It really did start with the girl's shoes and then it went into the theft and breaking and entering And yeah, now he is you know forcibly I mean, he's committing assault right upon women and the girl of course knew that Jerry was lying when he came Doing the fake heavy breathing thing But she didn't report it at the time because she was afraid that Jerry was going to take it a step further

If she did and of course, you know shit. It's 19. It's the early 1960s, right? You know shit like this went unreported all the time and hell shit still does I still still does go unreported like this and since she said nothing Jerry believed he got in a way with it and the Escalation continued and got even worse the next time his next act of violence came eight months later in 1956 he convinced a girl from school to let him give her a ride He instead drove her out to the middle of nowhere forced her out of the car and ordered her to disrobe When she said no Jerry beat her with his fists breaking her nose, but thankfully at this time there were witnesses And when a couple driving by stopped to see what was going on Jerry tried saying the girl had just fallen out of the car

Accidentally and was hysterical. He was trying to calm her down So weird, but when it became obvious that that was bullshit He switched his story to say that he'd been driving by and saw the girl being attacked by a quote-unquote Weirdo whom Jerry fought off and chased away also again. It's distancing the first Yes, because basically he got a yes by her not reporting which of course is very very difficult like what you said It's the 1950s. Who's gonna believe this girl? Yeah, we don't want a victim blame Of course that's not what I'm saying at all, but I'm just saying that that to him was The first like a green light right now

He's behaving in this very sort of on the spectrum like Like behavior of like I can just say shit and and people won't care It's almost like a child like he's obviously because he still is a kid even though he's 17 years old He's sort of been kind of like trapped as a six-year-old now Especially in his sexuality because he's really just obsessed with seeing a captive woman nude, which is a very I mean Of course, it's an obviously immature way to view at a human being and then he seems to have this sort of hero Storyline he likes to put in there as well. It's very bizarre Well, it's a way to absolve himself because that's the thing because he doesn't care

He has no conscience whatsoever at this point. He is already a full-blown Sociopath so he doesn't need what he needs is the approval of others, but he still wants to do horrible shit So in both of these scenarios him trying to play the hero isn't about him trying to make himself the hero It's him trying to have other people see him as the hero because that's a way to get out of the trouble Yes, and that happens a lot a lot of these people serial abusers are charming Yes, and that's what makes it so difficult for a lot of the people who are being abused to come forward because people like no not Jerry Yeah, funny Jerry who always wears the heels. It's a nice guy. I hear he's a cop You know like it really puts them in a difficult position

Yeah, and neither one of Jerry's excuses to the couple that drove up on this neither one of those excuses work And so Jerry folded up his rage and meekly went along with them back to their farmhouse where they called the police and Jerry was arrested a Police searched his room and found the photographs he'd taken of his last victim along with a pirate's bounty of Women's underwear and shoes and that isn't a correct amount technically a pirate's amount of panties is seven Because it's that's that's as much as you can keep on a trip around the English Channel Oh, I see you can take and keep. Oh, all right But since we have evidence that Jerry actually later used underwear He'd stolen as a teenager it follows that Jerry had a second better hidden stash

Or the cops just let him keep it all with a boys will be boys attitude. Ah, you can hear I Yeah, we'll keep ease here. Yeah, you little meaty. It's funny. I said you can keep the panties I got a whole woman's head in my squad car. Yeah, it seems like the police are sort of doing the boys will be boys Narrative a little too loosely here. I don't think that that's not normal boys will be boys behavior I'm not sure if that's exactly what the cops did but that but they let him keep it that well They who knows they may have just not found his second stash I see, but if they did find a stash, they might had said like well, well, you know, let him keep a couple I don't okay, maybe and then once he went to the hospital for psychiatric evaluation

Cack attitude kind of continued a little bit. So when cops found the pictures They also found Jerry's first victim who happily fingered him for the crime He was charged as juvenile offender and was sent to Oregon State Hospital for psychiatric evaluation. Hmm. The diagnosis there was depression along with quote-unquote questionable judgment and hindsight and Despite him kidnapping two girls holding one at knife point and beating the other with his fist breaking her nose Doctors determined he had no homicidal tendencies. They said he was suffering from quote-unquote Adjustment reaction from adolescence with sexual deviation and fetishism, okay?

Depression I've seen a lot of pros that commercials Yeah, I see people staying in bed walking on the beach alone Yeah, we're eating alone and no point Do I see the pros that commercial where the person is breaking an entry and stealing panties sniffing shoes? It doesn't seem like depression to me Did you see me sniffing a shoe when you came into the studio today? No No, but these are just the American commercials kissle in the UK. They have a lot more they have a lot less stringent FCC regulations so they can really show their real symptoms of depression like sucking on severed feet

Okay, I haven't and having hooks in your garage that you put humans. Oh, I understand Brutus did the same song and dance that a lot of these sociopaths do when they get caught They know exactly how to act to gain sympathy and just how much remorse to show Making the doctors think by George it must all be some huge misunderstanding that landed this nice young man here Guys and let me ask you a question to the group Why is it that sociopaths are so good at talking to authority and so bad at talking to their peers? Why is he how can each why are they able to charm the people that that basically can keep their freedom and And and very bad at like basically learning how to just speak to a woman so that you can see her nude consensual

well, I think it's because with Psychiatrism with mental health professionals. There's a goal the sociopath knows what those people want to hear They know how to trick those people because there is a generally accepted path towards sanity or a generally accepted path Towards freedom, but people are different nobody there everybody every single person is different And you can't really tell what that person wants to hear until you actually get to know them Yeah, and usually sociopaths and people like that like they can't get past that first conversation Yeah, I totally understand what you're saying. I've lost a lot of dates talking about Gerald Ford. Yes I think he's a great underrated president. I didn't know that wasn't the path to a relationship now tell me Marcus

So you're saying that like the old adage goes and I had read this recently It's from the book of Anansi the mischievous God spider God from Africa As that life is like a box of chocolate I don't think that that's a way that That because you don't know what you're gonna get unless you look at the label right that tells you what the chocolates are right But then you have to have the label Which means you're in the matrix and you've woken up. Yeah, you know the thing about that analogy is you do know What you're gonna get chocolate? It's chocolate. So what do you gonna get coconut or caramel or something worse?

Look at the fucking description box. Look at the fucking sheet of paper They fucking give you you do imagine you could just end the entire movie a forest gump in the first scene We're just like forest flip it over Just flip the box over. There's a whole diagram. Oh, I didn't know I've been choking on these almonds for so long Tell me So I am dumb Oh, I shouldn't have done any of this shit. I did No human relationships are extremely complex. Thank you Marcus relationship with a mental health professional

You can game that pretty fucking easy. Yeah, and there are some people who were a who are able to gain personal Relationships Ted Bundy was very good at it. John Wayne Gacy was very good at it There's plenty of sociopathic personalities that are able to game actual human relationships person after person after person Because you got to remember the vast majority of sociopaths aren't homicidal You know, there are certain sociopaths who specialize in Relationships who that's their whole game. That's what they want to do. They want to destroy people They want to get someone in their grass They want to make them they want to make that person love them and then they want to twist their head off

Emotionally well and to that to that point about Bundy. He worked at the suicide hotline. Yeah, so he had to have some human interaction skills Yeah, I tip my fedora to you dog What does that mean that's a good thing I'm just saying no Fedora and a fedora to you. Yeah, but a fedora has negative connotations these days. Oh Yeah, it does it has big it does not if you put a baseball card in it Which I don't know why what I said it has anything to do with fedora. I didn't think for doors were that controversial I'm just saying just saying what I'm just saying that if we were having this conversation at it all bom-pom People would be leaving like it like normal like our whole lives

No, Brutus while he was in the mental institution He was allowed to go to high school During the day and spent nights at the hospital for eight months. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah guys I know all you girls wanna line up and ask me to go to the dance, but unfortunately I cannot be there I have to go to the mental asylum Yeah, I mean there's if he spun this the right way There's a certain Fonzie element to it just like start elbowing jukeboxes have him play the hits of the time But I don't think he was quite as cool as the Fonz. No

No, and the whole incident was hushed up as well Not only did nobody who went to high school with Jerry remember the incidents. Nobody really seems to remember Jerry at all Even after he was accused and convicted of murdering four women He was such a non-entity that not a single person was even able to give an oh, yeah, that guy In fact, he was so forgettable that one of his defense attorneys was shocked to find out that not only had they gone to the same High School and graduated the same year, but they had actually shared the same homeroom all throughout. Hey, Bane Crazy fucking see you like this man. He's fucking weird. Yeah, I can't believe it's just you and me He's hanging out here. You know, I'm thinking all day. It's a school days, buddy. I don't

Jerry, what was your last name? It's me. It's big Me We're having a good time. I used to go buzz buzz. What's the news? What's happening buzz buzz? And you say hey Jerry the big guy you remember Did you are you the kid who you would eat your boogers and and you're and you would show us your who is the fungus guy the fun You're the fungus guy. Yeah Fungus kid

That's not what you remember, but anyway, let's get out with this trial. We got to get you convicted So after high school Jerry was released and tried attending college for a couple of years He was damn good with electronics But was lazy and either failed out of or quit every school he went to and at 20 He joined the army there He said he began to believe that every night a Korean woman would break into those barracks Come to his bunk specifically and try to seduce him He said he physically fought her off every night

But couldn't figure out why none of his other bunk makes remarked on the strange woman who's trying to fuck him every night This is sort of like the darkest most fucked-up way that the Dan acoroid scene and ghostbusters could have went Uh, he was fighting with a Korean ghost woman in his sleep all night. Just like come here and get you fucking ass Trying to seduce me. I look and I choose who I sleep with. It's not consensual. This is Rick And he's beating up this woman and he's just like no one wants to stop me No, but none of this was real right? He literally all of this shit was him. It's just a weird ass fantasy But he obviously had to have been making sounds in his sleep Also, I am consciously making him sound like cartman from South Park. I'm starting to realize that he is cartman. I think so

Jerry reported all of his fights with the Korean woman in the middle of the night to his chaplain who in turn Reported Jerry to an army psychiatrist who discharged Brutus from service after only seven months due to Jerry's quote-unquote Bizarre obsessions. Okay. It's just immediately kicked out of the army immediately. They're like get him out of here Yeah, we do not need him. We do not need we have we still have plenty of fine young men left over from world war two And the Korean war get this guy out of here not sane enough for Vietnam Yeah, well, this is a this is at this point still peacetime. Yeah, but we're we're starting there We're starting to ramp up to Vietnam, but at this point. Yeah, we can let go of a couple of duds here there We didn't need everyone we could get yet

Now after getting kicked out of the army Jerry moved back in with his parents and took the room His brother Larry used when he wasn't at college But when Larry returned Jerry was forced to live in the shed behind the house where he covered all the windows to quote Keep out the light I needed to be completely dark in here because number one everyone loves the pale complexion It's a sign of richness. It's a sign of purity. Also. I burn Also, no one wants to see me I choose to stay in the shed. I don't care. I like the shed. Yeah. All right. Yeah

I don't need to stay in the house who needs all that access to the television and the refrigerator and the bathroom So there's some like schizophrenia or something going on here, huh? I well know because he's starting to build his own little underwear dungeon Oh, so he doesn't want anybody to look inside the shed and nobody's just going in the shed I see, but he doesn't want anybody in the backyard to accidentally look through the windows and see that guy is Draping his bed with with bras and panties. Okay. Well, we are starting to see now is the physicalization of the of His compartmentalizing his personality, which is going to turn it later a lot of serial killers do this John Wayne Gacy did it with his basement Ed gain did with his mother's room all this stuff where it's like now that this shit now that

He has his own little space out in the shed. He's gonna start. He's collecting panties. He's cleaning foot like shoes He's stealing shit and he's hoarding them all in this little fucking gross Backyard room whereas, but you know, no one wants to go back there. No one wants to go and see what Jerry's doing He's got a bed covered like the ceiling of a coyote ugly just full of random braziers and underwear and things It just seems like this guy has some major problems here Marcus I'm just gonna go out there and say it. Thank you Now Jerry's constant failures in life were by this time building into a dangerous frustration that was directly related to his frustrated sexuality He started stalking women whose shoes turned him on and when it was safe for him to do so

He'd attack them strangle them until they passed out and run off with their footwear Hmm now it's very possible that Jerry was actually trying to kill these women or was at the very least playing around with the idea Yeah, he might have actually thought he killed him at first as most people pass out before they die of strangulation The police also said shit at being like, yeah, it's easy to choke a woman You're always talking about how easy it is to be like you'd be surprised how easy you could just make a woman go down by just Choking her and choking her Not like I've tried it doesn't seem like a lot of good police work is happening here once again

I mean there's not a whole lot to do and something like this because a lot of times like the girls didn't even see him Like he would attack him from behind, but you know sometimes he would do it broad daylight Like it wasn't just women that were you know walking alone Down a dark alleyway. I mean, I mean you got a slightly taller Danny DeVito Just putts it around town choking out women and taking their shoes. I just feel like this is an identifiable person I mean, he's like six one two sixty. Oh, is he six one? Yeah, but his father was so tiny. Yeah. Yeah. He was a Brutus was a he was a huge red-headed dude Ben

Don't look at me Yeah, like somebody we know one is tiny by my standards Six one is oh is a small person by kissle standards So after Jerry attacked these women he would take the shoes back to his dark little backyard shed and sleep with them And unfortunately for four poor souls later on Brutus found that each time he did this He felt more powerful when dealing with his mother But while his nights were filled with horrors Jerry had finally found something worthwhile to do during the day He found they was pretty damn good with electronics. So after getting his FCC license

He got a job at a radio station in Corvallis, Oregon as an engineer Hold on what? He's working in radio now. He's working as an engineer. He's a podcaster. No, he's not It's interesting. So we have a situation where the man grew up playing in a dump Uh, then he did he get in he got into shoes there a little bit and then he went into radio False equivalency, huh? False equivalency. He was a radio engineer We had one of these at ktxd back in Lubbock. His name was Randy and he was useless Radio engineers are not the people are there. They're not DJs. Am I right to say this?

You had fungus growing on you as a child. I had a fungus on my head for a number of months that no one was positively able to identify yes But well bring out that Marcus boy over here man over here. I won't take a look at this head Well, this is obviously he's got dump fever You build on this child To perform playful acts in a dump. Did they take me all the way to georgia for a specialist? I well you got dump fever. You got to go somewhere

You got made up go to the mail clinic for that people talk like that like 500 miles away from where I grew up. God damn it So where do they talk like where you're from? Oh, we got this boy's got dump fever. Ah, there we go It's slightly dumber than the your accent. No, it's not not dumber. I'm not offending the state of texas. I love texas We will get shot. I love texas because some just because someone's got a goddamn accent. Don't make them more. I don't think so No, I certainly don't think that I'm from Wisconsin. We don't have an accent. Now They're at the radio station Jerry seemed to actually somewhat make friends with a couple of the guys who work there But he still couldn't bring himself to actually speak to a woman

That is until a young boy introduced him to 17 year old Darcy Metzler. This is what I understand. There was like a little kid just hanging out in the radio station They had like a station boy and he was joking about how like the kid was poking fun at And fucking Jerry Burdose. We're like, hey, hey, you're always alone. Nobody gives a shit about you Nobody kisses you, huh? You big ugly mook. Look at you. You dumb head over there. You got your you got your weird little fingers You got mushroom fingers and got your dumb head and you just think yeah, you think you're fucking hot shit Yeah, I see little kid. Then why don't you go fuck me? Bring me a girl then. He's like, hey, I bet I can't I got one right for him for you and he brought him Darcy this little kid just like

Yeah, I got a check that you could have now. Maybe it was the age difference as Jerry was a few years older But for some reason Darcy and Jerry Burdose hit it off. It's pretty easy to see what Jerry saw in her She was shy submissive Unintimidating and for Darcy's part She just wanted out of the house and it helped that her parents were immediately repulsed by Jerry Burdose Which made him all that more attractive to Darcy I mean usually when you go against your parents will when it comes to finding a mate They're at least like attractive like a bad boy that has a motorcycle

Someone who smokes way too many cigarettes Which will come back later to haunt them and you will to take care of them as they die in early death But nonetheless, it's cool. This guy looked like the violator You know and like clown violator looked like clown violator and so she just got it all wrong It's like just just because your parents hate him doesn't mean he's cool. Yeah, her parents were right Yeah, they were like he looks like a serial killer. He seems to behave like a serial killer And she's like no mom. You don't get it. No, his penis is almost four inches long And for some reason Jerry was actually he was able to make her laugh

And you know, he was also six years older Which to a 17 year old that can be mistaken for maturity just because someone is older It's like oh, he's so mature. He knows the ways of the world. He's mature pretty soon. They were fucking And Darcy got pregnant and the two were married after only knowing each other for six weeks Oh, jeez. You just know when you know, I guess Yeah, and at first things were pretty all right for the couple They were constantly naked in the house, which Jerry loved and Darcy was okay with Yeah, but then the picture started and shit got real weird real fast

It started fairly tame with Darcy posing naked in black high heels Yeah, Jerry started getting creative And one Jerry asked Darcy to ride their daughter's tricycle naked with her breasts flopped over the handlebars And in another she wore nylons over her face distorting her features You gotta get your own sex tricycle Yeah, if you're like you got to have a whole separate line of goods. Yeah, that's just related for saucy stuff Yeah, but it can still longer your daughter's tricycle

No, no And then things started to cool down a little of course, you know, they knew each other for six weeks Darcy was pregnant for nine months And then they had a couple of years of just having a baby around But once Megan reached toddler age Darcy decided that she didn't want to be in one of those households where dad dong just hangs freely So she put a stop to that Yeah, we all know there's something about dad dong. That's very interesting. It just becomes so much like longer Yeah, and weirder like you've been hanging weights on it. There's something becomes like twisted like a tree branch

My friend Corey his dad was always new to know he's like coming in the room after a shower at his workout Just like like wiping his balls, but it wasn't sexual No, it was just in a weird locker room thing And that I don't I never did because we had thankfully we had stalls in our gym showers So I didn't have to see other penis. Well, there was something about fathers They would do whatever they wanted on the house completely nude and they would just be like I pay the bills Yeah, so I'm allowed to just dangle dangle whenever I want to but there are rules Well, this is about Darcy's. She also wasn't a kid anymore

She'd married Jerry at the age of 17 But by the time she was 20 she decided to stand up for herself at least a little telling Jerry that the heels He made her well while where while doing housework Naked hurt her back. Naturally. I'm not gonna do it anymore. Of course. Yeah And every time Darcy turned on one of Jerry's ideas. He would in her words become depressed And when Jerry gets depressed Jerry gets himself a whole mess of underwear So this guy does have some btk Dennis Raider like Tendencies also right? Yeah. Well, he liked oh, yeah

He liked the role play He really liked the idea that everybody thought of him as really as normal And that on the in his inner life. He was all fucking weird and fetishy He liked the house being super sexualized We promise you have a kid in there all the time and it's like and I'm down I would fucking like we're where I love being nude and I love all that kind of shit But I also don't have a child. I also know that you have to I think that there are times for it That's very nice of you to say it. You have to like Jerry

Completely ignored his daughter. He wanted nothing to do with her But when Darcy got pregnant again in 1967 Jerry decided to be the supportive parent His mother never was just so long as it was a son completely repeating what his mother had done to him But when it came time for Darcy to give birth She didn't allow Jerry in the delivery room saying she thought it wasn't proper for Jerry to see her being quote-unquote Played with by another man. What kind of doctor did they go to? Doctor feel good. I guess. Oh my god. Is that dr. Vince Neil? I'm the only shirtless doctor in Sacramento, but they said too is that he

He said that Jerry Brutus was incredibly jealous of Darcy He was really really jealous of any single thing that he did but also He was obsessed with being in the room for the birth So she essentially had the kid while he was at work and didn't tell her like she went to the hospital Didn't tell her that she was in she was in labor He finds he finds out afterwards that she's already had the kid and he is so depressed He disappears for two or three days and this weird sort of punishment that he does to her every single time She doesn't do exactly what he wants

But also his like obsession with seeing the birth was also very strange more than what a father normally is Wanting to be present for the child. Yeah, he wanted to see the baby come out. He wanted to be there to watch the head Crown out of the vagina. All right specifically Now the sex between the two dried up all together after the birth of their son Jason With Darcy becoming repulsed by the very idea of even touching Jerry Hmm. She spent all her time out with her girlfriends while Jerry fiddled with electrical projects in the garage While his mother whom he openly despised took care of the kids

In early 1967 the family moved to Portland that same year Jerry was involved in an accident that he says was what sent him over the edge from assault into murder But I wouldn't give it too much credence as he later claimed in prison that the whole thing was caused by hypoglycemia Hypoglycemia. Mm-hmm. What is what is this all the you get hangry? Oh interesting That makes all the sense in the world By either way Jerry was repairing an industrial electrical device when he accidentally touched a live wire and had 480 volts of electricity sent through his body Enough to blow him across the room and injure his neck when it snapped back from the current

Now this excuse does sound like horseshit But I did find a study published by the University of Montreal in 2008 That found that there's sometimes a link between behavioral and psychiatric changes and accidental electric shock Above 120 volts. Of course our listeners have all seen Ernest goes to jail Of course and sees that when you get when you get electrocuted sometimes you do something weird Anti-Ernest. Oh, absolutely start buffing the ceiling like it's a floor. Oh my god. Oh my goodness So this guy he's had sort of an what is it emperor or palpatine? Is that the man who can shoot the That's good. Wow. Emperor. Good. Palpatine. Good job, Ben. No problem. I'm not gonna nerd alert myself there

I know a lot about star wars Uh, so he could have had a little fun with it, but I guess he didn't he did not no But at the same time, you know, even if you know the electrical charge did cause some sort of a behavioral change Jerry's behavior had already started a climate sway back up to where it was when he was living in his mother's shed He'd already started stealing underwear and shoes again, and it was only a matter of time before his behavior would escalate even further And again, he would use the behavior of the women in his life as the reasons why he did it He once the sex shredded between between him and his wife He turned it all against her basic being like it was your responsibility when they were fucking all the time and they were

Nude all the time. He had no problems. He was not stepping out and doing too much fucked up shit It was only every once in a while and as soon as it stopped as soon as Darcy wanted a normal life Quote-unquote a normal life. He couldn't handle it anymore. He's a child You know, he just he just doesn't he he wants what he wants and if he doesn't get it then he acts out in the worst way possible He's a horrible piece of shit of a human being. He's selfish. He's narcissistic. He's sociopathic He is like a chicken with five legs. Oh my god. No, I've heard it all I can't believe god would make him. I can't believe god would make him. He should not exist five like a chicken Oh my goodness and this personality type is all over the place. I'm not gonna get into the politics of our time

No, my goodness are are there a lot of these types out there. Oh, man babies Yeah, man babies who they don't get what they want So they they act out and they throw little fucking temper tantrums because they can't handle the fact that other people Don't want to live in their own little personal universe. Mm-hmm pieces of shit now right before the accident Jerry went out for a knock and grab but this time he decided to follow the woman. I mean You make it sound like a gas station Oh gotta go down to get a loaf of bread of the knock and grab but this time Jerry decided to follow the woman whose shoes caught his eye whom

He waited until she was asleep broken strangled her to unconsciousness and raped her now Jerry found that it wasn't the strangling that turned him on. It was the limpness of the unconscious body Now like a lot of other serial killers Jerry had accidentally discovered what he wanted most out of his sexuality And in his case It was necrophilia when you say accidentally discovered See, I don't know if that is an accidental discovery french fries were an accidental discovery, right? You know what you mean? um Antarctica america was an accidental discovery

I don't know if just necrophilia is but he still took her shoes when he left And he later claimed that they were his favorite pair After jerry discovered that what he really wanted all along was pretty much just a human doll He started fantasizing about keeping female corpses in a freezer that he could take out and play with whenever he wanted For jerry his fantasy wasn't about the kill. It was about the body. This puts him firmly in the camp of product killers along with people like jeffrey dommer, but unlike dommer brudos Very much enjoyed the killing But for him and killers like him the kill itself isn't the be all end all like it is for say a gary ridgway

All product killers want is the body and jerry brudos would get his first on january 26 1968 when lindis lawson knocked on his front door lindis lawson was a 19 year old encyclopedia saleswoman on january 26 1968 she got off the bus in jerry's neighborhood as she had made an appointment with someone on jerry street to sell some encyclopedias But this being oregon it was raining So the ink that the address number was written on had smudged She walked until she saw jerry brudos in his front yard who waved at her like he was expecting her When linda told him why she was in the neighborhood jerry pretended like he knew exactly what she was talking about

Said he was the one who called and asked if she would join him in the basement To talk further as his mother was watching his son in the house You never have to talk in the basement never talk in the basement if anybody immediately invites you to the basement unless you're there to see I don't know the basement Only like literally if you are in the if you are in the basement buying business if it is a basement appointment That is it But the decision to kill really was that fast jerry brudos was just hanging out in his yard a pretty girl shows up And in the span of a short conversation he decides this is the first woman

He's going to kill it's like now now's the moment horrible Well, he realized in that very moment that what we're going to see later on is that he's not one of those stalker guys He's not one of the guys like like btk would build up and richard ramirez would build up over a month He would be very spur of the moment when he chose who to kill and this was the first one He like got it and this is all while his mother is sitting in the house watching the kids But perhaps that was half the point So he's downstairs in the basement with this woman first kill got the kids upstairs in the mother I mean this guy

I mean obviously he's a true sociopath, but he's also very courageous for a first kill, isn't he doesn't it seem like this is uh Kind of um, uh escalated. I mean usually people You know it sort of goes with the ted bunny like sometimes you forget where you put the lug wrench or whatever the heck it is But it seems like a pretty dangerous Uh scenario it's arrogance. It's arrogance. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't say courageous. I'd say it's definitely more Yeah, I mean I'm using that in a different kind of way. Oh, of course But yeah, it's it's just total and complete arrogance. Jerry Brutus was an extremely arrogant human being very much full of himself In fact, uh, he would go from job to job and at every job

He would carry a little binder with all of his like certificates in them Just carry him around so he could show him to people all the little achievements, uh that he had gained over the years I don't even want to utter the man's name, but it's like our president Yes Oh, yeah the one that gets that they get to a day to a day two binders a day of positive news about himself A nice picture. Oh nice pictures wanted to make him look pretty. Uh-huh. How old is he again? Oh my god So once Jerry Brutus and Linda slosson were down in the basement slosson sat down on a stool Jerry walked behind her picked up a two by four and smashed her in the head as hard as he could

She fell to the floor where he finished the job by strangling her to death He then hit her body under the staircase Went upstairs to the house and told his mom to take the kids out to get some hamburgers Now fbi profiler Mark Saffrich had a damn good point to make about this move in the booklet the shoe fetish slayer Saffrich said what enables these people to get away with crimes like this isn't that they're smart It's that they are completely unaffected by the crimes. They're committed Brutus had just murdered a woman for the first time There he was just calmly telling his mother go get him a double cheeseburger He also got a sexual thrill out of it. He got a sexual thrill out of the idea of that

He's getting one over on everybody. I think that there's like and again. We're seeing the compartmentalization That basement becomes the place where he can be the real Jerry Brutus for a second Yeah, and after Jerry got rid of his mom He heard more footsteps upstairs Jerry's buddy Ned who had a key to the place had just waltzed in looking to hang out Hey there, uh, Jerry. What are you doing down there? Hey, that's a man. Just fucking leave me alone I was just coming over to say I know that I know that we you know, you're really interested There's a sale at the pay list Uh, if you want to come with me, I know you like to hang out there because I like that orange Julius next to it

Yeah, but tell you what I one thing about a pay list is with either understand is I would pay more You're the best Jerry friendship Friends so Jerry went upstairs and talked to Ned for about 10 minutes And he said that he made sure to not appear too eager to get down to the basement But it wasn't out of anxiety from just killing a person It was excitement to get back to what he saw as nothing more than a play thing Oh my goodness So after he finally got rid of Ned by telling him he was making nitroglycerin in the basement and needed to concentrate

Wait, what? Making nitroglycerin dead you gotta get out of here. Was this something he did previously? I think well, he was a projects guy. Just making nitro in the basement Ned. You know classic Brutus So Jerry went back downstairs and took the girl's body out into the open When he later confessed the crime to police he said he couldn't remember what she wore on the outside But he could describe her undergarments down to the last detail He then stripped her corpse naked and dressed her in different lingerie from his personal collection Thing was though since this was such a spur-of-the-moment decision Brutus had no film to take pictures

Instead he took her foot sawing it off with a hacksaw He kept it in his freezer and would periodically take it out to model his favorite shoes Now in my estimation, is that like, you know, I I don't mind feet like I like them You know what I mean, but my whole thing is like Have it all attached. Maybe that's the big difference between me and Jerry Brutus. I think that's one of the bigger differences Conversations. Yeah. Yeah, I like all the body parts attached. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, so this is when you two have finally figured out the big difference between you and Jerry Brutus not me I'm just saying Brutus's father over here

After removing the foot at about 2 a.m. Brutus loaded the body into his car drove it to a bridge over the Willamette River Parked and set up a jack and spare tire to make it look like he was fixing a flat He tied Linda Slosson's body to an engine head to sink it down and threw it over the railing And a few months later the foot would follow and neither would ever be found Linda Slosson was the first of four murder victims to fall prey to the shoe fetish slayer What a scumbag. All right. Wow, Jerry Brutus shoe fetish slayer interesting story interesting stuff My goodness. Yeah, I mean, he's not a cool guy. Not a cool guy. You know, he's just not he's not a cool guy You know, he's not a sweet guy. He was he was a guy. He actually has every not cool trait

He's a human. He's a human mushroom just covered in fungus morbidly obese A horrible person all around Best part about him Work for the radio Yeah, I'm in the end. Is that not admirable. It's a cool job. In a way. That's a pretty I mean The engineer is definitely like the least cool job at the radio station. Yeah, it's but it's still at the radio station It's so pretty cool. You get invited to the after parties. You know, I mean like you still get invited Like you're the weird guy. No, you don't. I don't know. We never invited randy to party

You don't you have to you're too busy. You have to go edit the show clean up the studio Now engineer is more of the electronics guy He's the guy that keeps all the nuts and bolts running like say you lose your signal You got to call up randy and be like randy. We lost the signal randy's like, oh, I'll get to it later And randy you're like it's like randy. We're losing listeners with every fucking second It's your job to go fix the fucking antenna and then randy's like, oh, I'm at dinner with my family right now Yeah, but then randy's like, I'll go back on the roof. I'll hold a bunch of tin foil. Okay. Thank you randy. No problem Cut to randy's just in a basement covered in women's lingerie

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