Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 291: Robert Pickton Part IV - Out to Lunch

Episode Date: October 20, 2017

On the conclusion to our series, we cover the dirtbag way Willie got caught, the horrific evidence found on his farm, the dumb-shit agony that was his interrogation, and the infuriating way the Canadian justice system handled his trial.​

There's no place to escape to. This is the last talk. On the left. That's when the cannibalism started. What was that? I'll tell you what, I know we've been doing this show for the last three weeks and there are a lot of people saying that they have a hard time eating while listening to these episodes. Oh yeah, that's true. And I gotta say, I'm not. You're eating well? There's a lot of shit. It's really fucked up how it all just gets mixed in the head.

There's a detail that we're going to talk about today that I just thought about. I'm going to be like, oh, you can make good patties out of that. All right. Welcome to the last podcast on the left, everyone. I gotta say, just like Henry, when I was typing out the script last night and we'll get to this part. It's like during the grossest, most gruesome part. I'm just sitting there eating my patties. It's not good. It's not good. All right.

This is the last podcast on the left. I am Ben Kissel. That's Marcus Marks. We got Hollywood Henry Zabrowski over there. Yeah, all I do is make money and spend it immediately. That's good. But I actually think that you're a hypocrite if you think that this is too gross to eat over because it comes down to you, man. It's like, this is what we do, man.

We grind up the bones. Humans are the top of the food chain for a reason. Let's get to one of the lower ends of the food chain here. Robert picked in part four. My goodness, what a journey it's been. And this is the conclusion. So by the year 2000, Willie picked and it brought in a new partner in crime to replace Gina Houston. Nicknamed the Witch of Endor by aid workers in the downtown East Side.

Dina Taylor was a terrifying woman in every respect. Oh my goodness. You say Dina, but I say Dina. You know what? I actually had a lot. I had a pretty big crisis over this last night. I think it's Dina. I think it's Dina.

I think it's Dina. Dina's not a name. Dina's where you go eat at midnight. Yeah. It's a Canadian name because you can hear that Dina. Dina. Dina Taylor. Oh, it's possible.

It's possible. She was violent, manipulative and had the same contempt towards sex workers and drug addicts that Willie had. She, just like Gina, would lure women away from the wish drop-in center. But Dina's story was that she had an uncle who had free drugs and plenty of cash. God, I need one of these uncles. Yeah, kind of cool uncle there, huh? My whole family's alienated all of the outside family and I wish I had an uncle like that who just had

drugs and cash and a big pig farm. I'd go and I'd hang out all time. Yeah, you probably do have an uncle like that, but they don't want to talk to you. No, we don't know how many women Dina lured out to the farm or to what extent she participated in the crimes, but by the time everything at Picton's farm was cataloged following his arrest, Dina's DNA was found on 113 items. What was she just rubbing her body on everything? She's got to stop rubbing your pussy on things, ladies.

I don't mean to put it out there. How did she? I know it's not hashtag not all ladies, but I do want to say like as soon as you get out, don't start rubbing your pussy on everything because you don't know when crimes will be committed. How was she walking around? That does seem like a strange amount on air. Really?

Do you mind? Is this a no panty house? It is good. They call me Dina the stamper. You'll see why. Welcome to the slug zone boys. So she's a horrible person. Those items that her DNA was found that included condoms, clothes, syringes and handcuffs.

They also found her DNA on items belonging to the victims themselves right up to the last victim, Mona Wilson, whose rosary was found covered in Dina's DNA. Don't want to get into it. I think that honestly you should just leave your rosary at home. Whatever it is that you're doing. I do like that this sex worker carried around her rosary with her though. I think a lot of them do. Good.

Good. Good for protection. From what? I understand. Spiritual protection, Henry. Spiritual. 2000 was also the year that the RCMP decided they'd had enough of the Vancouver Police Department's bullshit.

So they opened up their own investigation into the missing women that they called Project Even-Handed. I think it's been pretty even-handed up until now. Could have been maybe Project Let's Finally Get Something Done. Yeah. I think that would have been good. Because Even-Handed is such a Canadian fucking name for a police, what do you mean Even-Handed? You're not getting anything done.

It's Liquid Panther. It's courageous. I don't know what it is. It's something aggressive. It's something like, hey, we're going to inspire confidence. Not being like, we're going to do this fairly. I like that operation Liquid Panther. Created by a man named Don Adam, the task force's job was to actively investigate suspects

for the disappearances as a whole, rather than just respond to individual missing women cases. But it seemed like by the time they'd started this, the terror was over, or at least on hold. As of October 10th, 2000, only one woman had gone missing that year, a far cry from the 14 of 1997. Still a human being has gone missing. Perhaps they should look into it. Yeah.

Honestly, and it shows just the little amount of excuse they needed to stop working. Oh, it was just one. It was just one victim. Unbelievable. But once the holidays rolled around, Willie kicked it in high gear and took three women from the streets between late November and New Year's. Strangely enough, this was a pattern for Willie. From 1984 till 2000, Willie took 15 victims during the holiday season, more than any other

time, although nobody really knows why. Actually, I have a weird theory. It's winter time. It's winter time. It's Canada. I feel like when he kicks in, a lot of what we're going to go into, how I got a copy of Robert Pickton's, in his own words. But a part of what he talks about, he really hits home this concept of giving back and

his whole thing of help, his motivation of helping people. I think in the wintertime, it fit deeper into his own stupid self-validation for his actions by being like, I'm helping them by getting them off the street in wintertime. Now they double owe me for every single thing that they do. And everyone I pick up just by picking them up, I'm doing them a favor. And them just, them crossing me in any way she performs a recent for me to kill them. What a lunatic. Christmas bonus for the guy, I guess, in his own mind.

But, you know, in his car, they said, Merry Christmas, in the Pickton car, they say Merry Christmas. I just wanted to make that clear. Well, I think it was all so easier for women to say yes in the wintertime. It's fucking cold outside. Oh my God. Yeah. Vancouver?

Oh my goodness. Also, you need money. You're sitting there like you're, I mean, it's Christmas time. Yeah. The, the, the commercial weight of Christmas is enough to drive people insane. Six billion dollars we spend just on lights alone over the Christmas season. Oh, another boring, long man fact. Thank you so much.

No problem. I've got a lot of those. At any rate, Willie took a further three victims in March of 2001. This was Don Adams Q to get his ass in the high gear because it became painfully obvious by this point that whoever was responsible for these killings wasn't going to stop until he was caught or killed. And Willie Pickton was definitely in their crosshairs. There was the assault on Sandra Ringwald in 1997.

Remember the woman who survived? Yep. There were all the stories we talked about in the last episode. And there was the fact that Willie's farm was pretty much the perfect killing and dumping ground for a serial killer. It's literally a gigantic festering pig farm that has nothing but Hell's Angels parties on it. And it's, and people constantly being like, there's shit going on on this pig farm.

And the cops are like, but I didn't see it. Maybe if I'm ever invited, not that I've been invited, I could see what's happening. I just feel like if you were an officer, you grab the skull and you go to a party and you say, who did it? Who did it? And then you'll get someone to say they did it. Who did it? Well, in the eyes of the Vancouver PD, there still wasn't enough for a solid search warrant

for Willie's property. That opportunity wouldn't even begin to come around until late that year when Scotty Chubb got a late night visit from the RCMP. One night Chubb got into a domestic disturbance with his common law wife, Tasha. It's sort for Tasha Rana. Beautiful name. Beautiful. The RCMP dispatched a rookie cop named Nathan Wells to the scene and he heard a sob story

from Chubb about how Chubb was upset that his common law wife was doing too much cocaine. And bad guys, someone needs to do something about all these drugs in Vancouver. Wells, who was about to take a job in the RCMP narcotics division, made sure to leave Chubb his number just in case Chubb had any information he wanted to share in the future. Wait a second. So he showed up to a domestic disturbance call. Not only did he make no arrests or stop the crime or do anything about it, but asked Chubb for help.

Yeah, he basically deputized him. He deputized Chubb. This is not a weird practice at all. He wanted an informant like he saw in Chubb because he showed up. And just because there was a domestic disturbance doesn't necessarily mean that Scotty Chubb is in the wrong here. It doesn't mean that it was his fault. Tasha, Tasha has climbed to the top of the Christmas tree, which we have yet to throw

out and she has inserted her DNA open to the top of the Christmas tree like she's a big screaming high on Coke Angel. Oh my goodness. Here's my card. If you have any other information, please feel free to reach out. I'm a new officer here. Well, it was the right call for Nathan Wells because on January 25th, 2002, Scotty Chubb got ahold of him.

See, Chubb had just lost his job and was looking for rent money. So he figured he could snitch for some cash. He first tried writing out some Coke dealers, but the RCMP already had their names. Yeah, we know Coke Dave and we know Coke Steve. They all need to change their names because these are terrible drug dealer names. Chubb then wanted to roll over on a weed grown operation, but that was pretty small potatoes in Vancouver. And finally, Chubb tried his third option, guns.

Chubb said he knew a guy in Coquitlam with a small collection of illegal unregistered firearms. We're getting we're getting a lot of Canadian heat over getting some heat for saying that it's coca. It's not Coquitlam. What is it? Port Coquitlam, which is fucking right next to Coquitlam. Well, what's the difference?

One's got a port on it. Yeah, it's there's a Coquitlam and then there's a Port Coquitlam. So we're in Port Coquitlam. We're in Port Coquitlam. So this guy with the collection of illegal unregistered firearms kept them all in the disgusting trailer he lived in on his farm. And this guy's name was, of course, Willie picked it. So in other words, police finally got their search warrant for Willie's farm because one

of his dirtbag friends needed rent money. And this shows if any one of you listeners out there is running a criminal organization, understand this, you're only as strong as your weakest link. You must, honestly, you got to make sure that snitches do indeed get stitches, except if you're in a pen. Because if you're in a pen, the last thing you can do is be a snitch because that's how you get your wig split. Right?

If you butt you spread and you get your wig split, it's the last thing you never bitch out on it, ever. That's the last thing you do, ever. Absolutely. Or just pay their rent. Yeah. And everything is going to be fine. Now, Word soon made it over to Don Adam over at Project Evenhanded that they finally

had an end to Willie's place. And so Don Adam hopped on that search warrant and they headed to Willie's place fast as they could. So on February 6, 2002, Wells, Adam, and a few other officers traveled to Willie's farm, broke down the door to his trailer with a battering ram, found one of the illegal guns in his laundry room, and arrested him for possession of prohibited and restricted firearms. Fucking dude, it's just like stirring a pot of laundry with a rifle.

Then it was time for Project Evenhanded to take over. The first suspicious thing they found was a photograph on the shelf above Willie's bed that featured nothing but a pair of handcuffs covered in fake tiger fur. Oh, okay. Then put a little baby in it. That makes everything cute. That's an Aunt Getty. You want to put a baby?

No, a little picture of a baby. That's an Aunt Getty. That's an Aunt Getty. That's very famous. No, so the picture of the baby and put a baby in it, I was just, I am just saying if someone was like, how do I make money as an artist? I would say put a baby in it and that will sell. Then on the floor, they found a small cache of women's jewelry, a purse, and a piece of

paper with accomplice Dina Taylor's name on it. It's just written in pussy juice. Oh my goodness, invisible ink, I guess. They then moved to the nightstand next to the bed. Inside was a flare gun that had been modified to fire 12 gauge shotgun shells and a different pair of fur covered handcuffs read this time as opposed to the tiger print. Man, that gun sounds like something from like Far Cry. Yeah, that gun is actually pretty cool.

Next to the nightstand was a box full of kitchen knives. Then came the first piece of evidence related to a victim. They found a piece of paper on the floor with the name Heather bottomly written on it. Bottomly had gone missing in April of 2001. That was promising. Yes, but it wasn't enough just yet, so they kept looking. The next thing they found was among the strangest things I've ever heard being kept in a serial killer's layer.

Oh, this is going to be very strange under a pile of clothes. They found a 22 revolver with a curved dildo pulled over the barrel. Now you do believe that this is stranger than the bag with the vaginas in it, in Ed Gein's house. I mean, as far as an object goes, as far as something that goes, it's not a part of a victim. Yes, the vagina that was painted gold that Ed Gein used to sick as cock through. Do we remember this?

Oh, yeah. Well, that is strange too. I'm not necessarily, I'm not talking about like body parts. We can say this is the strangest gun for sure. I would say it's the strangest prop. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about items. So if you fire the gun, does the bullet go through the dildo?

Well, Willie said that he actually used the dildo as a silencer when he had to shoot pigs. That is very stupid. That is not true. There's no way that he did that. Just imagine what he choose to just goes to that's just not how that would work. No. I don't think so.

Then came the second real piece of evidence in Pickton's office. They found a bag containing an asthma inhaler with the name Serena Abbots way printed on the side and she last been seen on August 1st the year before. These two pieces of ID were not enough to arrest Willie Pickton for murder just yet, but it was enough to execute a property wide search warrant on Willie's entire farm. Okay. Finally for crying out loud. The next place after the trailer was the slaughterhouse when investigators walked in.

They found an old pigs head had been left on the butcher table and more rotting corpses were hanged from the ceiling. Pig corpses. Yes. Okay. While that does make for a gruesome scene, the real treasure there was the women's clothing and jewelry. There is nothing gruesome about a butcher shop.

A butcher shop is technically beautiful and it is a job that is old as the as I like a good butcher shop, but these are this is a dirty one. See a fresh butcher shop. Yes. Everyone loves a fresh butcher shop. Everyone loves to see the butcher making the sausage. I don't know. That's true.

I'm insane so you don't want to see how the sausage is made. I love seeing how the sausage is made. That's that's unique to you, Marcus, but when you see a pig like up and it's like feeder up and it's like it's like top feeder up and it's bottom feeder down and it's like hanging up and it's kind of going like don't you want to eat me buddy don't you want to eat me buddy. I sit there and be like, yeah, dancing to my mouth. Well, that's a strange thing to yell at the butcher.

But they still hadn't found a body or anything close to it. What they had found was more sex toys such as more silencers, Marcus, please show some respect. They're not sex toys silencers. Sex toys such as the Miss Lady flexible multi speed stimulator. Tell me Miss Lady flexible. Is there a Mr. Lady flexible like this house is it's just so disgusting. It's it's like beyond belief how disgusting this house is.

Now I looked up the Miss Lady and they're still for sale. Oh good. They're on the market man. You can order them online and they still and they of course have copy involved. This is the copy verbatim. Lady step right up climax for sale. Wish it were tour which is what it says here is to you are a which is real well with these measures or just more the flexible multi speed stimulators it can be wow nothing like a big

fat Canadian man screaming at you to orgasm. Oh yeah. The woman just so crazy wet my goodness gracious apparently Willie bought all this sex toys from a woman named Shelley who was the sex toy dealer for all the local truckers. Oh so this wasn't so all these truckers are just sitting of course they do you could put the truckers in the cabs all day cornhole of themselves because they got to you're on the road. Why don't you have to what why don't you wear your seatbelt trucker Steve he's like

with this toy I'm not going anywhere what I do here see officer officer it's as good as his seat belt. You see the suction cup end here right I do I put it in the back at the bottom of the carrier right see look see how hard that I'm going to try to push you out I'm going to try to push you now watch it now look look here watch okay now let me take down my trucker trousers special all right you know what I can't budge yeah I can't budge yeah I got lips and grip okay go on then I see you soon there well this sex toy dealer Shelley she'd also sold Willie an inflatable pig that everyone called quote the fuckable pig great

and Willie kept that one on his desk oh good good how big is it I mean it's enough to fit on a desk okay it's funny it's a funny thing Anton from Trendle Manor gave me a big alien lady that I can fuck as well a big inflatable alien don't think you're supposed to do that he just no I mean I fuck it so as the forensics team continue to search for hard evidence the RCMP figured they try to put the screws to Willie who is out on bail by this time okay and by put the screws I mean they send a nice lady to talk to him at work oh my god yes see by this time Willie picked and his name was all over the papers as the likely suspect in the decades long missing women case because by this time it had actually gotten

quite a bit of media attention I think in 2000 or maybe early 2001 the Vancouver Sun had run a huge expose on all the problems of the police department how they weren't talking to each other how they weren't putting any money or resources in the missing persons department and doing all these profiles on a lot of these missing women so it was really in the forefront of everyone's mind okay Vancouver but the job of the cop sent to talk to Willie was to pump him for more information Willie just sat in his cab while this woman listened to him he mostly just whined given the same just a simple pig man story he'd always given women eventually teared up near the end told the woman that because he was being harassed

by the media so much he felt just like Princess Diana oh I am I'm just like her I got a face like I got a face a technically like a terrier mixed with the Chinese crescent much like the famous host of last podcast left his dog Wendy to real who's hilarious he's super funny yeah I am I am constantly villa vilified for my beauty judge for it also Princess Diana was killed by a gigantic light weapon by the English government in order to cover up the fact that she did not want to be involved in the cloning operations that Queen Elizabeth was running out of the Buckingham Palace and because she was marrying an Arab yeah all right there we go hot take corner Henry Zabrowski so picked it is getting sad he's a real princess

Diana of serial killers yeah then finally 10 days later cops found an orange cushion and a mangled metal mesh shower hose both stained with blood what about all of the clothes all the jewelry isn't that enough to just arrest this guy no how would he have it it's still circumstantial oh pretty good he just has it just has it just has all the clothes of the people that are dead well they don't know for sure that they're the clothes of the dead no right yeah they don't all have their names written in it's not daycare I remember that it is wearing clothes I never had to write my name in in the clothes this is true because they were always so big and they said you know which ones are bad and they said don't

let them touch the rabbits yeah it was a reek of beer yeah six years old yeah yes well they tested the DNA and when the results came back they found the blood belong to Mona Wilson the last victim and with this police had enough to arrest Willie picked in for murder now do you think we should arrest him or do you think we should just maybe I don't know I think sometimes I read a story once about how a cobbler had a bunch of work yet to do on shoes and then when he went to sleep tiny men came out and did all the work yeah maybe that'll happen here let me just put on my sleeping cap because it's Canada and I have to wear a hat to sleep yeah I'm just gonna sit here and go they come out yet not yet I'm gonna

have a Molson but even though Willie was finally in jail the investigation was by no means over there was still the matter of the other 48 or so women Jesus so in addition to the mounting pile of evidence being collected at the farm cops figured they try a two pronged approach to get a confession out of Willie there be the standard grilling in the interrogation room but they also figured they double their chances by setting Willie up with a cell plant oh my god this cell plant is just like he just sounds like everybody that is he's just trying to make it in Hollywood for some reason I'm picturing an actual person dressed as a plant just like in the corner of the room don't mind me I'm just a plant that can't

talk that I talk you're talking you're talking what seems like to me or more of a plant that's lying and saying it can't talk the world's dumbest prison cell coming live to CBS in case you don't know a cell plant is an undercover officer who poses as a fellow prisoner in order to get information out of a suspect they can't ask any real questions and really they're just to egg the guy on the story they gave to Willie cell plant was that he was a fifty one year old with a history of violence who had just been booked on two counts of first degree murder now from what I can tell from both this case and other Canadian cases I'm familiar with like you met what's a false confessions do you remember the confession

tapes the confession tapes great yeah the confession tapes very similar to this whole cell thing from what I can tell the most common affectation of a Canadian officer impersonating a criminal is to just say fuck as much as humanly possible I swear to God it was like it's like a sketch he walks in he's wearing like a fake scar he's got a head shaved in there he's talking with him he's like yeah these fucking mongrels they don't know how to fucking talk to criminals like us you and me we're fucking hard cases you and me they're fucking fuck and he says it again and again and again to the point where it's like any other criminal would be like I think you're lying I'm not sure but I think maybe you're

faking being a criminal yeah the first thing like Willie like comes into the cell and he says like oh what are you in for and the first thing the guy says he goes ah fucking I'm fucking in here for my fucking health you know like a joke to shut the fuck shut your fucking mouth that's what you do your fucking mouth yeah over the course of the conversation have between Willie and the cell plant the cell said some variation of fuck 150 times okay now Willie wasn't forthcoming at first but he did seem to enjoy how famous he already was he said quote the whole fucking world knows me all the way to Hong Kong to everywhere well that is true are we not going to play any dialogue you can't understand any of it

without the subtitles but what I would say to you is watch the footage yeah of Willie picked in talking to the cellmate it's on YouTube and it's pretty amazing and I would say honestly besides obviously the murders are the worst part the second worst part of the whole thing is the way Willie eats compulsively an entire plate of chili that they gave him in prison it's not chili it's just plain beans chili it's hard to explain he eats it like a child yeah he scoops it all to one side of the plate and then squirts it up from both side like eating like he's playing with it and then he eats every bean yeah there was a undercover boss episode for Hooters and one of the general managers made the people eat

the beans off the plate so they could go home early quite offensive check it out Hooters undercover boss and made him eat the beans oh he was fired what are you talking about a undercover boss episode on the show but we understand that part but we need to eat the beans up he made them eat beans off of a plate the Hooters girls how does that get them home earlier because the winner got to go home earlier so yeah that's it under cover boss it's the most offensive out episode of all time our audience will understand so she got cut before everyone else because she wanted to go home earlier but she had to eat the planes eat the beans off the plate so it was like a sexual thing it was a disgusting thing

it was a disgusting sexual thing that this guy enjoyed watching women eat beans really quickly yes so wait out of it so he forced her to eat the beans forced all of you as a sexual thing for himself well it not now we're talking undercover boss yes he basically forced that he didn't force them if they wanted to get cut early then they had to compete in this competition he called it piggy games I believe oh it's disgusting that's different that sets up expecting you just saying it's quite later you basically just said waiter got to go home early eat plate of beans I was talking about an undercover boss I thought you guys had seen undercover boss and seen undercover boss but I didn't understand the

concept nonetheless if you watch the Hooters episode of undercover boss I boy cut at Hooters I still boy cut Hooters well after Willie said that the whole fucking world knows him the cell plant compared Willie to OJ Simpson as far as famous murderers went and picked in this he seriously said this he said OJ Simpson I don't know what happened to him is he okay yeah he's doing great yeah he should be oh he's a great footballer that guy funny too man I can't believe what that woman and that waiter made him do yeah and the cell plant reassured Willie the OJ was doing just fine he's fucking whining and fucking dining out there oh yeah he's gonna be moving he's moving to Vegas no he's moving to Miami I think yeah

he's currently in Las Vegas yeah Miami is his home yeah he had some good times in Miami all right yeah and picked and we'll be able to join him soon once he gets parole in twenty five years oh Willie spent hours talking about how he was nailed to the cross how he was screwed and so on and so forth he kept saying that over and over is like they're nailing me to the cross here oh my god a real Jesus syndrome this guy has huh but then he started talking about good times he remembered a story from Christmas Eve 1997 a night he said he was quote a real hard asshole and there's nothing worse than a hard yeah it sounds like that's a man go to the doctor you gotta go get a check up I thought he was gonna reminisce

about how nickel back performed at the piggy palace there was one night is banned nickel back oh my god on that night on Christmas Eve 97 Willie drove over to the gas town neighborhood which is the tourist spot just blocks in the downtown east side and let loose a couple of little piggies into the crowd causing pandemonium real hard asshole that guy real hard ass that was our senior prank I wasn't a part of it but we had the pig one with we took a pig and had a number one was spray painted on one and then a number three was spray painted another and then they let loose the pigs yeah so you look for that they spent a lot of time looking for number two oh wow that's kind of fun for the pigs yeah it's

very fun for the you imagine the pig goes to the bar since that has a little pager in every kind of fun but then this was Willie's favorite story oh my god read in on the farm he told this story to like three other people like the woman when she was talking to him in his truck and he talked about being like the princess Diana he told her the piggy story on Christmas Eve as well yeah he loved this story I remember that wouldn't you see that's how he laughs and they called me the pigler oh man he's like a very shitty Batman villain oh the pigler because I was like mankind from the W.A.W.E. when you do that too he used to squeal quite a bit well Willie's plan for 1998 though which he never went through

with was to get a few ostriches because he used to buy ostriches for the meat from auctions he's gonna get a few ostriches and set him free on the downtown east side he then planned to get a tuxedo head over to the nicest hotel in the city and release two suitcases full of bats into the elevator shaft they pigler strikes again I dare you to collect all these creepy bats all creepy oh I found out honestly that their their feces is quite worth it gets worth quite a bit of money look at that guano about all this Willie said quote that would have been fun to see she don't want to do that I was so close I mean I was so so close if he never would have killed anyone and just done this he's kind of fun that's a good time

guy it is pretty fun because it's also you would just be like Abby Hoffman you just be like a yipster you'd be like one of the old school 1960s pranksters now Marcus said that this is a good time for me to maybe do some reading oh just so you could see more of just how Robert Picton thinks and the way that he thinks I got ahold of thank you to Anna and Brandon from the reddit that helped me find this very rare book Robert Picton in his own words very difficult to find published by Michael Childress who's a fucking moron and I'm gonna put it I mean we've read a lot of difficult things to read on this show and I have to specifically with Scientology and with the alien shit I would say this is one

of the most taxing worst written things I've ever read it was pulled from Amazon by the Canadian government five days after it was published while Picton was in jail and he wrote it and I mean this is this is what he sounds like and it's called Picton in his own words yes okay Picton on Picton Picton on Picton oh my goodness so he's talking about that basically with the book posits is that Gina did all the murders and he did nothing hmm and so this is a counter he has with the sex worker at night there I disperse from this specific area and feeling a whole lot better of the whole process just decided to stop at this convenience store that is just up from the protrusa Hastings indicating

at the site locations on the left hand side where the store is facing onto Hastings Street there I have bought myself a light snack which involves a filled donut one liter of 2% chocolate milk and a packet of plain potato chips to munch on while I continue to overdrive my own tiredness so that it can recede on driving homebound but holding to my word en route as planned with the support of speech a sport of speech killing two birds with the salt with the same stone and being in Vancouver which I am going on the on-site location where miss George Gina Dickens works the Shell service station located on junction of Powell Street for I desperately like to talk to her in person we haven't even gotten to it so this is this

is just one paragraph there I continue driving down Powell Street in a line of forward motion with the traffic and down the road roughly about half a block ahead in the distance where I notice this poor girl hitchhiking off the sidewalk as this party continues walking backwards in the process while facing off the sidewalk her attention to the surroundings there at the point in speech as things unfold before me while I never knew the situation of what was happening until she stumbled off the sidewalk and fell directly on the roadway of Powell Street which extended to the movement that was taken her directly into the path of my pickup truck immediately after these particular circumstances when I had immediately stopped

with having alarming suspicion something definitely happened to this particular lady with myself tendency taken while I secure the road roadway with my truck and put on my truck emergency four-way flashers all right that is I don't I don't like picked it on picked it anymore this is horrible the whole time he's just now to update with a particular party in formal conversation where she has stated directly to me that she was extremely overtired and quite comesly on my feet and connecting to the main reason shy that I've been partying for more than 30 hours non-stop in a without any sleep addition into this where this lady asked me directly if by enchants are you interested in having a date with me for I give good head by this particular

remark indicating that this party deliberately thrown herself directly out of her fierce anger and disposition towards herself in front of a motorized vehicle while hoping that someone out there would feel sorry for her while she only there to arrange a formal date which again is pure evil behavior then he just he quotes Romans okay all right so the whole time he's also drinking 2% chocolate milk this is what's with the milk it's always with always with the milk with these guys and then he says that he was gonna donate a hundred dollars to her for her for herself and she ends up at the trailer she doesn't want she she slowly but surely invites him to sleep with him and he said well I guess I can give you a hundred dollars I was gonna

donate a hundred dollars to you and um I never got to the murder oh great well I think we're all dumber picked it on picked it that was the worst thing I've ever heard in my life that was the worst written thing I've ever very good very well read though Henry Zabrowski I'll send it to you to read that's what that's what Marcus's brain needs right now that's what I that yeah that's what I need after all this more picked in so the day after the first cell plant conversation came the interview for hours cops took runs at willy trying to get him to confess to anything but willy proved tougher than they thought it wasn't until cops showed him a tape of Scott chubb talking about the murder for hire conversation they'd had that willy cracked even a little bit

then they played the testimony of andy bellwood whom willy had described as murders to this was the first time willy really had an outburst using the phrase which would become one of his favorites throughout the interrogation quote out to lunch you're going after lunch I'm going out to lunch I am officially going out to lunch you're out you understand sir you cannot leave out to lunch when I'm free again out to lunch when to any when someone when cops told him that someone had said something about him you go out to lunch what does that mean that that means that not true it's crazy it's crazy that's crazy because it's out to lunch that guy's he's not talking since he's out to lunch but why can't you tell the truth over lunch well he's not there he's not working

he's out to lunch but let's show another a lot of good conversation happens at lunch all right it seems like and if you read his book it seems like and this maybe I'm jumping at here and I don't mean to ableist slam this man but I think that this man's a fucking idiot and he doesn't understand what anything means he doesn't understand what the words mean he doesn't understand what he's saying out to lunch cops then started going into the DNA evidence and Serena Abbott's ways in Hayler saying they had Willie dead to rights but they were still trying to play to his ego no not dead to rights out to lunch out to lunch you're not you're not even listening I'm not dead to rights I'm out to lunch they said you're as big as the Pope you're as big as Bin Laden you can

have respect people might say Robert Picton was a hero when he knew his day was over he had a decency to end it quickly he sounds like my fucking agent yeah I don't like it at all I don't like the encouragement I know they're trying to solicit a confession here but just call him a piggy bastard some people might say you're a hero I'm not what I think they should have been meaner to him you don't understand I sent this we sent this document back and forth Marcus and I this like 280 page interrogation transcript that we found and this shit's fucking infuriated I don't know man I feel like this is the situation where a lighter and a foot would have worked just burn his foot no that mean really the whole of the the general tone of the interrogation is

come on buddy yeah what you murdered 40 yeah they're nine people they're way too nice to them yeah they're like come on come on did you do it no did you do it did you come on did you do it now how about this I give you a lollipop if you say you did it did you did it they should have had it well Willie didn't bend on that the interrogator completely out of ideas tried appealing to this psychopaths sense of decency completely out of I well we asked him if he did it he said no I asked him if he did it again he said quote this is what the interrogator said do this for your mother who is watching you from heaven rob do you hear up there may hear an oven

yes rob it is me jesus christ you must come up and you do it for your mother she also killed a son like my father did to make everybody's life better I wish that he hadn't done it the way he did oh god you fucking piece of shit why you make them do it that way why not just blow me to death different times huh and that of course failed as well you can't appeal to a psychopath sense of decency and justice it's about this time that Don Adam head of the project even handed task force figured he'd better take over after hours Adam finally cracked willy hey willy willy you ticklish here no no I'm not are you ticklish here maybe here in the corner of your name stop it no no maybe I don't know but how about your belly no no don't do it I'm back from lunch I am back

from I'm back from lunch well talking about the blood found in willy's trailer Adam said this quote willy you didn't do a good job of cleaning up the girl's blood like you got to agree with me and now who knows why but this was what willy finally responded to after everything else willy said quote that's right I was sloppy I'm a messy boy I'm a bit of a pig pen everybody you said that and Henry you're joking but the tone of the rest of the conversation was kind of like that is that like just willy's like oh yeah I was sloppy that was just me he just kept using the call for some reason the qualifier sloppy was what willy latched on to and that's what right made him confess is all right because to me immediately it sounds like because it's such a criminal trope the idea

of being sloppy and that's how he got caught up yeah I think that picked picked in was really stupid and built a bunch of things upon the ideas that he thought of what criminals were and how they behaved I think that when he got into this whole I was sloppy he had heard that enough from criminals from TV and reading about shit about when he heard that statement over and over again and he's like that's how real criminals get caught us by being sloppy they don't do it because maybe like they latch on to something it also made him a little bit smarter than the police or it made him think that he was smarter than the police because that's kind of how the cop out smart him he's like oh willy do you think it was you know bad police work or just you be in sloppy

and he was like it was both you know you guys you would never would have caught me if I wouldn't sloppy now when they finally returned willy to his cell the confession floodgates had opened and willy was ready to talk even more the cell plant prompted him by telling willy how he got rid of his bodies by the sea he said there's nothing left if you send it out to the sea oh and willy listened as he disgustingly shoveled a plate of beans into his mouth why does that make it so much more disgusting for some reason the the visual of him eating like tiny from out of a thousand corpses it was just the like the childish way that he ate it they're like fucking sticks with me because it's because it just shows that he just wasn't mentally he's just not a bright person yeah

well he grabbed the fork with his fist sure instead of holding it like you know an adult he grabbed us for his fork with his fist and you know and I actually did that up until like my early 20s because I think you still do that I've seen you eat many times you've done it before if you're in a hustle if you're out to lunch you are you you will grab that you're definitely doing it like oh yeah well after a pause willy said quote I did better than that a rendering plant and after that it was only a matter of time willy sat there eating beans shoveling into his mouth and we're like yeah I took him out to a render and plant they never found the bodies hey willy can you just speak into this flower that they let me have it's a strange thing they

let me have a flower that's where the microphone is right no it's a flower oh I mean I'm okay with just talking into the microphone I know what it is I you're wearing a halloween prisoner's costume it looks like you bought it from a halloween town oh by the end of the night willy had confessed to murdering 49 women lamenting that he'd almost made it to quote the big five oh you had to pronounce it correctly the big five oh five oh big five oh my god he then masturbated and went to sleep gee all right what hey man we all got something in common yeah I guess that's so whatever I don't now interestingly he also said that there'd be about 15 other people who go down with them should he ever go to trial okay now we know about Gina Houston and dina taylor who by the way never

did a day in prison for their parts unbelievable but there was also Dave that's right that's right yeah when cops searched the old family farmhouse which david long since left they found some interesting items in his old bedroom besides the predictable collection of condoms and dildos they also found a rusty pair of pliers used to castrate animals there was also two wrist restraining devices and a pink backpack full of used syringes wipes and condoms as well as a crack pipe and a butcher cleaver but none of it was enough to charge or even truly investigate Dave Victor oh my god I think you should look into this guy a little bit please well Dave publicly said that the whole thing was a frame up perpetrated by a former employee which brings us back to

pat Casanova the barbecue man it always comes back to pat Casanova I'm the barbecue man of Vancouver good lord see Casanova had run the butcher business with willy for years and had ample access to willy's properties cops also found human dna on a saw at Casanova's house but not enough to match it to anyone in particular so they couldn't prove that I mean maybe will it maybe pat cut himself one day on the side okay if you can't match it to any right particular person you can't charge him with anything it could be that Casanova was involved or it could be the willy you'd use the saw and lend it to pat afterwards well what they found in willy's workshop points towards willy linden the saw okay on April 4th one of the investigators a man named sleigh

walked by the workshop and noticed a stench coming from one of the big chest freezers hmm after digging through a layer of frost they found two five gallon plastic buckets sleigh shined his flashlight inside the first bucket and found a human head oh cut in half vertically through the face oh do you think they cut the head in half because it's easier to put in the bucket or is it because what you do with pigs because they cut the head in half to get to the face meat if you're gonna make like sort like head cheese if you're gonna make all that and the brains are used for a lot of stuff it was because it was like a pig it was exactly he he he butchered these women the exact same way that he butchered pigs right down to the cutting of the head down the

vertebrae down the middle of the body like he was just right he was doing it how we knew it he was doing sure we knew to do it all right that wasn't the only thing in there inside one half of the head in the cranial cavity they found two severed hands and stacked underneath was the other half of the head but inside this half was two feet jeez the second bucket held the same exact configuration my goodness gracious the forensics found more body parts near the old pigory in the cistern uh-oh a sewage company pumped the damn thing for four days before it was empty because willy had never emptied it oh he's like a cousin ed from uh from christmas vacation oh and then after investigators pumped out all of this pig sewage they had to sift through all of it by

hand so we're talking like 30 years of pig crap many years of pig it just sounds like losing an engagement ring and shanghai oh like in one of the public toilets yeah good luck but it was worth it you know they found a human jawbone in there for one guy it was some guy probably loved it the creature of mud creek perhaps i loved it there now it can't be understated how huge of an operation this really was there were over a hundred people working there day and night for years sifting through willy's farm piece by piece by piece i do just imagine someone like waking up really early for sewage day and be like there's something wrong with you todd but in this case that's a skill now get on in there i've been waiting to swim in human sewage for my whole life

there's nothing that interests me more than being covered absolutely up to my fucking eyelashes and pure human waste well time you get in there i'm out to lunch i gotta go i will you get in there now these people they had to i mean they had to search through every rock you know they had to say they had to search through all these drops and they had these huge conveyor belts that they would have to go through and search piece by piece they would sit through all this dirt and go piece by piece by piece it's like a disgusting scene from i love lucy yeah yeah they searched through about 40 bone pits oh god bone pits bone pits yeah because that you had to put the dead stock somewhere sure yeah yeah yeah oh yeah yeah oh yeah yeah and they had to separate every bone fragment

to see what was human and what was it and they found a healthy mix of both in every bone pit but there is a mystery when it comes to the body so mystery that endures to this day no one knows what he did with the leg and arm bones it's unlikely that he disposed of him at the rendering plant as those are pretty recognizable as human but not even a piece of one was found on the farm but no one knows what he did with the leg and arm bones but then there was evidence that was almost just out in the open one pale in the slaughterhouse was stuffed with human remains and nearby was the head of mona wilson saw it in the half like all the others but the most disturbing discovery of all was still to come on july 15th 2002 two officers were searching a further two freezers when they

found three plastic bags full of ground meat oh shit oh shit oh shit the bags were put in a storage for four months until someone finally tested them and they found that the ground meat was pork and people oh so this was like honestly this was fed to human beings this was like they were making sausage out of this stuff this ground meat matched two women one who had disappeared in early 2001 and one who had gone missing four years before in 1998 that means that's not healthy that's not healthy no that it is possible if not probable that for at least the previous four years willy had been grinding up at least some of his victims and mixing the meat in with hogs he butchers he definitely was an investigators found that willy had given me to over 40 friends relatives

and associates in this period of time willy had also helped out another friend grind package and sell about 300 pounds of meat every month to small butcher shops around vancouver all right and yet even though investigators knew all of this they did not issue a public health warning about possible human meat being on the market for another two years well you want to keep it under wraps here because that because what are you gonna say what are you gonna do i people of quakwitlam and pork quakwitlam i hate to break it to you now that lovely sausage you've been enjoying uh it's just sausage you we're not gonna ruin this for them we're gonna say and you could just see him you're like and now and just i want to say in unity with the people

of port quakwitlam i will now eat this human foot now i know i know that this is i don't know where we got this foot i'm not asking questions right right sergeant lansky no questions asked i am going to eat this foot so i also know what it's like and honestly it's quite good i do i will say honestly i think that the the reason why he did it and ground it up yes obviously he had some sort of sick shit inside of him of course he's a fucking monster i bet you he was doing it doing it to pad his fucking counts that he had so much extra meat that he knew that we're saving money on pigs by putting the human meat in with the pork meat and because they're so similar that this was about money and convenience and not just about being a depraved maniac all right what about that what about the

rendering plant though do they shut that thing down no of course not well why don't i understand how any of this this is 2001 2002 2002 yeah this is like modern time yeah what is happening you can't shut down the render and shut it where are you gonna get your mic and ike's if yeah dude your mic and ike's also all right also think about the the the contouring craze that's happening on instagram right now that is fueled by the human meat gelatin that is being used by makeup companies right now now all this shit this isn't even close to all the evidence they found in fact i once again have to recommend reading on the farm by stevie cameron to get a full scope of the whole investigation which is absolutely fascinating especially if you're interested in forensics in any way

whatsoever but even with what we just mentioned just those few things you'd think the willy picked in trial would be a no brainer no brainer yes slam done almost almost a formality oh yeah oh yeah but remember this is vancouver we're talking about here oh my god we're nothing is ever simple when it comes to criminal justice this is like you with the slam dunk analogy it reminds me of patrick ewing missing the layup in game six just dunk the ball ewing you know we're ambient champions but whatever it doesn't matter i didn't blame myself for that yeah you're not upset i'm not upset with that you know it happened in the nineties 20 years later now even longer now the preliminary trial went smoothly by the end of that picked and was charged with

27 counts of first-degree murder with each one of those counts having at least dna attached if not out now body parts and that included the jane doe from 1995 that we started last episode with okay but then there was the vaudeer what's that now here in the u.s. vaudeer has mostly to do with jury selection okay it's always a kind of trial within the trial but in the case of willy picked in the vaudeer had to do with what evidence would be admitted and they fucked it up spectacularly good now i don't mean the prosecution by all accounts they along with the forensic teams did a fantastic job put in this case together at every turn these guys they they they doubted their eyes and they crossed their teas they they did a fantastic job oh we were supposed to cross the

teas and dot the ice i was dotting the teas and crossing the ice well thankfully they look similar but the words are all weird and when i say they fucked it up i mean judge james williams who was either grossly incompetent okay or honestly trying to cover something up like what's what's marcial no donal marshal is a fucking moron donal marshal is an absolute fucking moron idiot very sick man there is there's something weird going on here okay when i look at the the judges you think he's in on it i don't know maybe he was at the piggy palace sometimes i really i really don't know but it really does seem like there's something else here that there's maybe something else involved because they're the decisions that this guy made in this case they don't make sense well because

it comes from a complete and total contempt for sex workers it comes from a complete and total idea that they are less than people he views that he i can see the the obvious connections here or that uh the the police did not do the job that they were supposed to leading up to this to fully go through all and really talk about it would expose a lot of people that weren't doing their jobs and and it just comes down to that the judge thought that uh sex workers were not people and then that it was a problem that picked in was helping them with bad judge well we've got an example of this right off well you know what i would do to see if this judge was complicit look at his ipod is nickel back on it is it a clue that's a clue well first this guy denied the count of

the jane doe whose skull was found in the swamp in 1995 and whose rib was found on pickedon's farm in 2002 his reasoning and i swear i'm not making this up was that she shouldn't be included in the counts because they never identified who she was so in other words in the eyes of this judge it is totally cool to kill someone just so long as no one notices are gone unbelievable of all the disrespectful actions taken by either the vancouver police or the courts this one might sit at the top the one that tells you they don't fucking care at right they don't give a shit but that's not it after that they were left with 26 counts of murder each one extremely similar and each one inextricably tied to the other but the judge decided that trying

26 murders was just going to take too long oh my god what else do you have to do judge oh gotta go out to lunch you literally just sit in your judge yeah you just sit there you judge he's like you know that's just going to take too long you know people they aren't going to get it you know we know we can't ask him and it's just going to take too long so he took it down from 26 uh-huh to six jesus with the promise that the other 20 would be tried later the problem with this is that the prosecution wasn't allowed to mention the other 20 murders in the context of the six they were trying oh my god so they had to ignore the evidence of 20 other women that was found on the farm they had to completely ignore it and that wasn't the only thing that hobbled them the

judge decided that the jury would not hear the testimony of sandra ringwald who had ran away from willy picton's trailer with their guts hanging out of her body the judge's reasoning was that sandra wasn't one of the 26 murder counts yeah because she didn't fucking die because she lived because she lived in other words the judge did not let her testify against picton because she was just a plain old run of the mill attempted murder okay hold on an actual one so she did not meet the standards of similar facts evidence so theoretically the 49 that died they would be allowed to testify this is straight out of the Salem witch trials where it's like if they drown she's not a witch but if they live definitely i think we're having some massive confusion of what's allowed

in this court all right this is what i mean let me please handle the evidence i'm going to handle the evidence he starts talking with the skull that's allowed of that's what allowed here all right nightmare before christmas type shit adams family type shit that's what i want to see me grossly incompetent judge so by the time willies trial started on january 22nd 2007 five years after he was caught willy was feeling pretty good about all this yeah because they're charging him with less than one tenth of the or i guess a little bit more than one tenth of the amount of murders he actually committed yeah willy cut his hair into a short mullet and every morning he'd use the margarine he got with his breakfast toast to slick back his hair oh god oh god

so disgusting the defense for willy was that he was just a simple pig man i've heard this before from willy yes who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time they kept using the phrase be hive of activity to describe the farm and said that any number of people could have been the murderer or murderers now furthermore they said willy was just too dumb to pull any of this off this is what exactly what dumb people do that what do you mean he is just dumb enough to pull this off it had to be somebody else so predictably willy pickham was found guilty well thank god i mean honestly yeah but he could have been found innocent but not a first degree murder oh my god since the judge had tried to torpedo the case at every turn the defense was able to convince the

jury enough that maybe willy wasn't fully culpable and he was found guilty of second degree murder instead so he was found guilty of six counts of second degree murder six counts so justice was not served in this case oh it's not even done you're not even done yet i can't i don't think i'm gear enough to invade tail oh no we're not done yet after the trial forensics experts were able to add six more murders to willy's rap sheet through even more dna found that brings up the provable number of murders to 33 but in 2010 the canadian supreme court ruled that there would be no further trials for willy pickton the first trial was ruled good enough good enough and that's where it ends for willy pickton and the 26 families who will never get true justice do once again to

pure laziness oh it is like it is a perfect the cfl is a perfect analogy for canada versus the united states in the nfl this is it is just such fast like what is happening oh yeah and the story of michael children's who published the book so they didn't know understand like so at least willy pickedon can't write so he's not gonna be able to make money while he's in jail yeah i michael children's was doing it from a child molester friend of his that was in jail that he was trying to raise money for his appeal case and he was going to use this and it was all of this fucked up shit so children's put it on his uh on his uh facebook page uh i just published a book when he put it out and so finally he was not he was not completely ignorant of pickedon's identity

when he decided to publish book but this is what he said i got him wikipedia and i looked up as a rest record and stuff and he was kind of creepy you know but if pickedon did it then he needs a rotten hell and i feel sorry for the victims and the families but if he didn't do it then who did it he did it he did it oh my goodness all right well that is willy pickedon what a uh a month long my how's your brain marcus actually my brain's pretty good because uh i don't know this this picked in case it wasn't a lot of pig talk it might have maybe was comfortable no that i mean really this one um it wasn't the murders that bothered me so much as it was uh the cops the indifference the injustice on this one like that it was we've definitely talked about cases where you know cops

didn't investigate but this was on a whole new level like oh my god all the way up to the judiciary it's obviously systemic yeah this is all the way and it's also yep when you leave the gaps uh and the idea of a lot of being like why why it does feel like a cover up and you could see why uh conspiracy theory gets in there too as you look at it like you have all of these holes for it i'm serious and this judge must have gone to the piggy pal i'm sure well as far as this stuff and uh conspiracy thought goes is that anytime there is gross incompetence on the part of authority figures um failure is the perfect place for conspiracy to hide yeah as soon as there's a failure as soon as people fuck up again because i think people they want to believe that uh the

government is there to protect them they want to believe that the police are there to protect them and then when it doesn't uh when it doesn't protect the most vulnerable of us uh when it's just sheer incompetence and laziness that's where conspiracy fits the best because there because laziness is nothing but a void you know incompetence is nothing but a hole and you can fit anything in there and as we saw with the fucking clone saga yeah the picked in case is the perfect place for it and i also do believe that that judge in this case was malignantly suppressing this case yes oh absolutely he was he was politicizing the bench and coming out and basically saying i don't like sex workers and they don't deserve to live and that's a part of where this came from which is the that's where

i do believe that it's not conspiracy like capital c capital t conspiracy theory but it's a part of like the way that shit goes systemic sex is yeah it's real can i mean it's it's actual real conspiracy here like the way shit the way shit actually works and i'll say this you know that the vancouver police department that was definitely uh incompetence because since the picked in case the vancouver police department has gone through a huge overhaul as far as how they treat sex workers and as far as how they investigate crimes against them there was a gigantic overhaul of how they're treated and in fact one of the women who helped spearhead that overhaul i'm going to be talking to her on a patreon bonus that we're going to be releasing this week this woman had an actual

encounter with willy picked in in the early 90s she was a sex worker on the downtown east side i'm going to be doing an interview with her today after we record this episode and that's going to be a part of our patreon bonus content this week all right there it is well thank you all for who thanks thanks to all who have donated to our patreon you have made this all possible we really appreciate it thank you so much and we're excited to see you in los angeles the 28th honestly this is going to be a fucking big fucker yeah should be a lot of fun it's going to be it's going to be a lot of fun wear costumes again costume contents we've got modern dance actual i actually watched some of natalie's performance i watched a little bit of the rehearsals for her

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