Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 299.75: Pee Wee Gaskins Part IV - The Final Truth

Episode Date: January 6, 2018

On the conclusion to our Pee Wee Gaskins series, we cover his last few murders including the diabolical bomb plot he concocted in prison that finally earned him a ride in the electric chair. Despair and Triumph Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Anguish Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Los

There's no place to escape to this is the last time on the left That's when the cannibalism started Man oh Man 2017 what a year what a year you know I mean we lost so many we gained so many We lost Tom Petty. Don't you fucking even bring it up. I Never got to see him in concert he had just performed in LA and I missed him It's a now I'm seeing everybody before they die and I assume if I choose to see you live in concert

You will die very soon. I don't want to jinx it Willie Nelson is still alive. Did you see what have you seen Willie Nelson yet? No, oh, he's fantastic. You have not much time my friend I'm gonna put a little piece of glass under his nose to make sure he's still breathing That's what the mob did to make sure they were dead All right, this is the last podcast on the left everyone. I am Ben Kissel. I'm staring at the final Marcus Parks the final face of 2017 Honestly a dog meat you kind of have an Anne Hage thing going. Oh, I remember when she was famous. Oh, thank you very much That's what happens. It's my hat hair. Yeah

I'm called Henry Zabrowski. It looks like you're you're moving very fast me. I'm this year. I'm living easy I got my pink shorts on it's 82 degrees outside I went to the galsons this morning, and you know who I saw the dude from she can't hardly wait So I'm saying I'm going 2017 is is behind me 2018 is ahead of me. I took my last shit of the of the day. I'm hoping good job Congratulations. I got it out. It was black from Pepto Bismol. I hope all right Well, we are gonna flush this crap you're right down the toilet and look forward to 2018

We look forward to spending it with you. Let's get on to pee we gaskins part four Four episodes for this guy who is what five foot three? It's a lot of episode per size. We did an extra long series for a tiny tiny man So about two months after the murder of Silas Yates pee we got a call from Diane Neely the woman who'd helped him lure Yates out of the house seemed she'd let her new boyfriend in on the secret that she had Participated in this murder for hire thing and the two of them figured they could make a little more cash by blackmailing pee When do you bring that up in a relationship? That you're that you're complicit in a murder three years in

Oh, okay, I would say it's once you've told all the boring stories again and again and again You guys went over the movies you haven't seen yet. You go. Oh, we should check that out And you know, it's like oh, we should watch it together I haven't rewatched that in a long time once you get to that phase the next thing is to spice it up You say you know I once helped murder a guy That's the most interesting thing you've said in 18 months. There it is rekindle love So the two of them demanded $5,000 in exchange for their silence although it seems like they forgot that one of them Was directly complicit in the murder. Yes. Yes. He's surrounded by Lenny's. No, where is the where's who's the other guy?

It's Lenny and candy candy candy the old man. You're talking about advice and men, right? Yeah, his name was candy. Yes, the old man is candy. Oh, it's Lenny the idiot They named this guy after a sweet delicious treat. Oh, I'm saying is that Peewee learned nothing from the wise men He does not know how to put together a crew It reminds me of the movie trapped in paradise with Nicholas Cage and I believe John Lovitz and no Dana Carvey Where they are you think they're trapped in a small lake town they try to rob a bank But they didn't get snowed in and so they're stuck with all of the very very nice townsfolk that they are forced to fall in love There it is, and that's a new episode a new show here on the last podcast network Henry explains bullshit movies that no one wants to hear about

trapped in paradise Peewee after the two of them got a hold of them told them all about the blackmail thing He acted like he was gonna go along with the whole deal and told them that he'd had a bunch of money out in the woods up near Prospect only catch is that they'd have to come with him to get it Mmm, and little did they know that the meeting spot was none other than Peewee's rapidly expanding graveyard Where two of them would soon meet their doom. Is this how people invest in South Carolina just bury money in the woods? I think technically if you bury a body in a piece of land you then own the land It wouldn't even bury he said I got it an old hollow out in a tree in the swamp never making money ever

Go to the location of your blackmail money. No the blackmail money should come to you and a place that you choose Who knows why but on this one Peewee got an alibi for himself that night He went to Sam's Club and made his presence known for many hours Again making sure everyone knew he was there all night. Hey y'all. I'm here. I'm here now Can we flip some of these mattresses? I want to see if it's as springy On this side is on the other side. Also. I need a 12-foot trampoline. I need five gallons of peanut butter Peanuts in it. I want it smooth like Duke coming out of my dough It's a bar Peewee. We got Bud Light and Budweiser

So around 11 o'clock when things got real busy Peewee slipped out Oh, so he Nealey and Howard met at an intersection and Peewee led him out to the woods saying he'd hit his money in a hollow tree Fucking Kebler elf. What is going on with this guy? He's small. Oh, that's where you hide things he and Jeff sessions And Jeff sessions like that is my trick when they got there though They found only the grave that Peewee had dug earlier that day and before Howard and Nealey knew what was happening Peewee shot him both in the back of the head rolled him over into the grave and buried them one atop the other and again This points towards I think a lot of his stories are horseshit when he had a murder room He did it real quick right pop pop. He buried them on top of each other

Which is the most romantic way to be buried bunk mates. I'm gonna put that in my will for me and Natalie We are but a genital degenital 69 position Which I think it's the idea of being like forever fucking in peace is what our tombstone will say that'll be classy And if it's ever excavated by by futurists, you'll be like either they were the king and queen of America or homeless But it should be you know like he did those things out of convenience and for money Yeah, so and and then the dumbest way possible Now as far as we know Peewee was quiet during the summer of 1975

But only if you discount the possibility of one coastal murder on the 10th of each month when the bothersome has hit him Can I actually equate something to this? I actually don't know when was the gas crisis in America? Oh, it was in the 70s 77 78. Yeah, late. But it was late 70s It wasn't 75 because the first thing I think it was just because gas was too expensive So we stopped murdering how many lives were saved because of the gas crisis? That's a good angle if Jimmy Carter should have played that up You know those truckers out there murdering people on the coast. They don't got the gas to kill anymore They can't get to the murders, which is why I built solar panels on the White House

So that the Sun comes to me. I don't need to go looking for it simple peanut farmer Have you ever heard Jimmy Carter talk that was similar to it that was good My name is Jimmy and I know one thing about being president is that oh, it's hard And you only get one turn. I know that now. I think the good ones that is you could get two turns You know, you could go. Oh, I'm no greedy Gus Best ex-president of all time No, I don't know if it was a private joke or something that pee we came up with for final truth But he said when he got that monthly bothersome this feeling he called it his PMS

Which in Peewee's world stood for his pre murdering signals I'll tell you what it probably stands for the same thing in our language. You know, I'm talking about Come on guys, here's your sign. You might be aware of this. Cut it out. Wow Wow But in September of that year Peewee would go on the serious murder spree that would eventually get him caught That one started with his neighbor 13 year old Kim Galkins So Kim Galkins was a friend of Peewee's daughter who swung by his house and sumptor every once in a while And once again Peewee said he couldn't help himself

He just hit on her at first, but when she told him no, he said he abducted raped and tortured her before killing her He then buried her right across from Silas Yates near Roper's Crossroads Not too far from his trailer before leaving Sumter for Savannah until the heat died down a little just like the last time He'd killed a teenage girl But the difference between Kim and the other girls was that people actually gave a shit about Kim Galkins Besides her father her teacher also noticed she'd gone missing and knew that Kim wasn't the type of girl to just run out So together the two pressure police enough where they finally took a closer look at this guy Who seemed to have a knack for being around when teenage girls went missing in Florence County who also drove a hearse?

Yeah, publicly and I can't imagine very well ran a car stripping industry Right, he was an obvious criminal right that they just let go because he was tiny and cute That's the strangest thing about it. They had to be pressured to investigate this guy again Always pull over the guy with the hearse They actually had to print it took two different people both the father and the teacher to pressure these guys and to finally look at It's like well Who is the last person that he was seen that she was seen with it's like oh this guy Peewee Gaskins Oh, what about Peewee's like? Ah, you know

The teenage girls tend to go missing around him ever once in a while, but oh, he's just talk He just talks up a big game. Well, I'll just say the my my thing about Peewee is a reason why the girls disappear Is because his love making is so superior that they need to leave town Ain't no way to be with another man after you get yourself a taste old Peewee At least that's what I think as cheaper police Well, you seem totally a nept officer. Oh, why are you saying it's because of my eggs? Well ain't nothing wrong with my eggs ain't or proving me being smart or unsmart It's really the words you're saying that's so much how you're saying it content

being Waces Peewee's the best global that I've ever seen and I've looked through a window Watching them hustle on top of a woman like a chihuahua get this dick stuck in a watermelon Well, maybe you should have intervened at that point and done your job. Yeah, no, it's Peewee being Peewee I don't but it's illegal But Peewee still had two more murders to go as a free man Remember like Henry said Peewee was still running his car theft during this whole time And when a couple of his employees heard things were turned south for Peewee, they figured they'd take advantage

Dennis Bellamy and his 14-year-old half-brother Johnny Knight Rob Peewee blind of tools parts and already stripped cars and when Peewee went to check on his garage in Charleston and found it cleaned Out he had a pretty good idea that Bellamy was behind it Hmm, that's when Peewee called up his friend Walter Neely Peewee said this about Walter. I wish the hell I could tell the final truth without so much of saying his name But that's impossible. He became the majorest part of my story before it ended and that is the final truth Now what part of the story did he become was it a small part or the major? the bigotominus

Absolutely terrifically the bigotonomous part of my story And yes, he was retarded But that is more of a clinical It's not a judgment. It's a clinical assessment of his abilities as a man, and that's a final truth. I'm fortunate Oh, right. Yeah, clinically actually they did do an IQ test on Walter Neely and he was mentally challenged Okay, however very violent criminal at the same time. Handicapable My cousins who were mentally handicapped were very strong

That's what I always say. Absolutely. See Neely was one of Peewee's associates from state prison and by associate I mean Peewee was Neely's power man. Oh Jesus Imagine this you got to be that your Peewee's guy all of these things are all of their own Sad tiny version of the movie driver with a draw or drive drive with Ryan Gosling Yes, like these two little stupid idiots stealing parts from Peewee. Peewee's technically the big bad guy He's the Ving Reims of the scenario Well Walter and Peewee's power man relationship extended beyond prison with Neely doing pretty much Whatever Peewee told him to do so Peewee had control in in the jail. Yeah, he was getting plea

He was getting pleasureed by this man Oh, I know what we were talking about all of the stuff that Peewee was talking about him being imprisoned being a power man We're an implement influential. That was all true. Okay, like that was that's all true Yeah, yeah, and I and the murders of the girls and the murders of his business partners are all true, too Yeah, it's just everything else is obviously garbage But he was forcing this man to give him blowjobs and then after they got out of jail together He went to work for him wild stuff different times. I guess locker room talk I'm perhaps and a top all that off Diane Neely whom Peewee had just killed for trying to blackmail him

Was Walter Neely's ex-wife. Hmm, but at that point Walter didn't know that Peewee had killed her I think we need judge Whopper on this. This is a family. This is a people's court matter It seems like to me. So Neely told Peewee. Yeah, he'd seen the Bellamy brothers driving around town And one of Peewee's stolen cars and most likely they'd taken everything else, too So Peewee once again used honey instead of vinegar to catch his slides Mmm Slathered himself with honey. Yeah covered in flies And that was that was Peewee's biggest tactic if you'll notice that he would draw people into a false sense security

Tell him no, everything's okay. Everything's fine. And then when they weren't looking he chewed them, right? It's very I feel like it's we're looking at another Habit that he picked up from the wise men. I'd say very mob thing Right do the thing where I've been like, hey, Tony. It's a big party for your birthday You gotta meet us at JFK. I'll play with the luggage goes I don't I don't wanna stay. It's like you guys never threw a birthday party for me before I was just recently in trouble with you guys talking to the police. So it seems weird also We live in Brooklyn. Why are we driving 45 minutes to go out to JFK? It's a big party

Oh, you know how you love the planes. We all know you love planes Henry just captures both kind of Italian so well So be we told nearly to tell the boys that he wasn't mad at all And in fact he wanted to reward them for securing all of Peewee stuff before the cops came to take it themselves Remember Peewee was in a little bit of trouble. Mmm. All they had to do was come meet Peewee and Walter Okay, so John never go no to the location Always have them meet you go to a Starbucks. Yep. This is a I'm just saying if you're committing crimes Go to use the Starbucks as the meet-up spot. Yeah, absolutely

So Johnny and Dennis met Peewee and Walter out at Peewee's house and after some pleasantries Peewee asked Dennis if you wanted to go with him and Walter to take a drive to see a possible location for a new garage. Oh Oh Sure, and they left Johnny back at the house eating sandwiches. Oh naturally. Yeah, they give him a lot of sandwiches These are not good employees. No But little did Dennis know that location was once again Peewee's private graveyard. Oh my god At some point do you think he realized where he was? Peewee, did you did you bring me to your private graveyard?

Oh That's exactly what he did when they got there Peewee He shined his flashlight into the darkness and told Dennis to look real hard for a building off into the distance Well Dennis squinted Peewee shot him in the back of the head Lenny style. Oh, man This is honestly, you just it's not a good. It's not a good criminals that you find these are not good men If you could do the hey look over there Shoot them in the back of the head, right? This isn't the machine gun Kelly This is it

It was gonna happen you get the feeling this guy was gonna get shot at some point Yeah, Peewee and Walter then went back to the house and picked up Johnny telling them Dennis thought the building was so awesome That he decided to say it stay behind Well, it's like you know when we went to we had that we had a meeting over in YouTube and in the YouTube building is like that where it has All like the spinny chairs that look like the spindles Oh, yeah, keep yarn on and stuff and like the big size chestboard where you could move the pieces of size your body It's like one of those where he's just like yeah, we got a foosball table and a

foosball Table and oh, we got all oh Soda machine that's free. He just pressed the button that the soda comes out. He couldn't pull himself away I'm gonna play with that foosball table But when they all got back to the private graveyard Peewee played the look over their game all over again and took down Johnny Knight as well and the whole time Walter was standing right next to him now This was breaking the biggest of the wise men's rules no witnesses

But Peewee actually had a fondness for Walter being his former power man and all and didn't really want to kill him Also, he put those heels. He put those little Reindeer horns on him like the dog from the Grinch who stole Christmas So Peewee figured he'd give Walter a series of tests. Oh Oh, I can only imagine what Peewee's version of a series of tests would look like First he asked him to help dig the grave. You know holes Walter. Yeah, you know how holes work Yeah, make me up a hole All right, I'm gonna say this right now if you just make a pile of dirt

That's a pile not a hole I'm gonna have to get you true Okay, you see a hole is Take these reindeer Horns off here the biggest child I've ever met Man, this is fun

After the hole was dug Peewee gave him a harder test And if Walter passed that great if he didn't the hole was already dug. What was the harder test? You'll see Peewee shined his light over to a freshly dug patch of dirt and told Walter That's where he buried Avery Howard as well as his ex-wife Diane Neely who also was the mother of Walter's children. Oh my goodness Then told Walter the whole story about Yates and the blackmail and all that stuff and then asked Walter if you thought he'd done the right thing. Honestly, this is like the fucking this is like Philip K. Dick

This is like Blade Runner tests like he's gonna tell him this whole story and how I killed your ex-wife and it did all this shit And then he's gonna be like did I did I do the right thing? This is a mental game for Walter to figure out What's the right answer here because you're about to get murdered by the scariest man that you've ever seen that you've blown right for years Yeah, well, I think he probably wants to go back to digging that hole because that's easier in a lot of ways And this was Walter's reaction according to final truth Now he said yes, he thought I had done right that they really hadn't given me no choice

And he was glad Avery was dead for stealing Diane away from him like he was glad Dennis was dead But he felt a little sad about Johnny because he was a good kid And he couldn't help but feel sad about Diane because he had loved her and they had all been married and all the kids and all But now that was all over and done with so he was gone cry. It's like if the big Lebowski was narrated by a lunatic Walter just went hmm Each one I honestly think this is the dead's honest truth. I think this is literally exactly how Walter Yeah, just inquisitively. Yeah, I mean he had a very low IQ, but really Walter was just a very stupid very violent criminal

I mean that that really that cannot be understated that like Walter was not a good guy that had just been like taken advantage of or anything like That like Walter was Walter Neely was a terrible terrible person all the people were talking about here He viewed all of this is like business moves Yeah, almost so this is what guys do when you're in the car stripping business You kill people and sometimes your wife's one of those people that get killed, but it's also like Robert Pickton We showed how like just the right amount of stupid mix with just the right amount of malice makes you a serial killer Yeah, he was just like four IQ points higher. He would just be selling herbal life, you know He's just just dumb enough to think he's working at info wars

possibly so at So at the end of the night after all the work was done Walter and Peewee sat up all night long and talked oh That's fun when you do that with friends Walter it's just so nice to just be able to sit and hang out with you You blow me a couple of times just like back in the day. What I thought that Tom was over. No, unfortunately Walter It's not We both know as my wife told me we know my cum tastes like lava mix with shit. Oh

Just gonna have to enjoy it Alright follows well Peewee just like Robert picked and just couldn't help but confess to all 13 of his murders in addition to telling Walter where all the bodies were buried But predictably Peewee didn't mention a single word about the coastals and what he told Walter Walter from what Walter could remember Matched up better with the evidence police were able to gather. Do we know if Walter is a sheepdog? Is that possible? I tell you what my roombo won't tell anybody my secrets robot overlords Start and cleaning our floors and then they're gonna start cleaning our ceilings next is the windows next thing They're sleeping with your wife

Hey, whatever gets it done Well either way Johnny Knight and Dennis Bill Bellamy would be the last victims Peewee Gaskins would claim as a free man For less than a month later police would have a warrant for Peewee's arrest Thanks, finally what comes with Peewee and Walter for me is that it just seems like he wanted to tell he loves to brag and He did feel like because Peewee's also fucking stupid Yeah, so he all he thought that Walter would help him out and that having somebody else in on all of the Superprivate stuff would help him cover all that stuff up But he doesn't realize the more you spread that information though the tighter

Essentially the news comes right right there is something about people trying to wiggle their way out of problems And they just find themselves wiggling themselves into more problems I just imagine you wiggling into a big old problem, which made me Just a huge butt is what I saw and you just go That's like a double double dare have a challenge like that you know something So after police finally searched Peewee's trailer and Sumter on suspicion of Kim Galkin's disappearance They found a few items of her clothing inside now all this proved was that Kim had been there at some point and since she and Peewee's daughter were friends there was a good amount of reasonable doubt

Concerning a murder charge or even a kidnapping charge But it was enough for a charge of contributing to the delinquency of a minor Which was the best they had that is I don't know that just seems to me like Totally horrible police work, right? These are some of the worst officers we've covered. I think this is very good. I think this is actually very good Please because they can arrest him for contributing to the delinquency of a minor and hold him on that charge and tell they can get Evidence for an actual murder charge because if they arrest him on a murder charge and then they can only hold him for 24 hours Or you know the entire arrest may fall completely fall apart

So if they get him for contributing then they can hold him on that until they can find something better Or until they can press some of their associates Which is what they ended up doing the police they took a two-pronged approach Because nobody really knew where Peewee was at this point. That's the best part about having multiple lives And then you got all of these places you can go to yeah It just feels like contributing to the delinquency of a minor They might as well just be like you've been found guilty of being a cool uncle, you know It's it is not the charge that I would think should be levied against this band

But okay Marcus you make a good point It was best they had okay because you know that since they were she was the daughter of her since she was friends with Peewee's daughter There was a ton of reasonable doubt. Okay, and so what the cops did is they actually I think they did a good job Here is they took a two-pronged approach first you stake out Peewee's known residents in Sumter Second you start pressing Peewee's known associates And they could not have picked a better associate to press than poor dumb Walter Neely Oh, I feel like they actually put him in like a in a presser They're just like slowly you showed him one they showed him like a juicer and they're like now Walter

What if you we had one of these 20 feet high do you? I'm just saying what if we did Well, that would be the biggest presser. I've ever seen right now. What if we put the inside one of those you got one of them Pressers no, I'm just saying the erratically mean officers. I'll tell you everything I knew So you might as well just act as if we have one you guys got one Well, that's good police work I take back everything I said Walter He didn't immediately crack under police pressure In fact, he didn't crack under police pressure at all because you know, he was a lifelong criminal

Usually makes a person immune to that sort of thing because Walter Yes, he was dumb, but he was smart enough to keep his mouth shut the cops are talking to you say Nothing say nothing say absolutely how many times did he have to remain completely silent while being made love to? By Pee Wee in jail you learn to keep that lip button because Pee Wee doesn't want to hear no man's sounds No That's the funny you ever watched that show the first 48. Yeah great detective show sometimes those people just sit down They just start talking they say everything that's on the top of their head. Yeah, I think quiet So when Pee Wee called up Walter to check the temperature around town cuz he knew the heat was getting turned up

Things were still in the low to medium range Simmer yeah, Simmer a simmer. He knew they were looking for him, but he also knew they only had the contributing charge I see so this is good. This is like broccoli Rob With a broccoli Rob you actually want to bring it up to a boil you want to quickly blanch them You want to toss them on ice to stop the cooking and then you want to saute it on a simmer? I technically you got to bring it up to a boil first because that's what kills the bitterness Your robot is currently going through your jewelry It's going to go sell it to a more wealthier robot

The other smart thing about Walter is that he was also smart enough to know that The police were probably tapping his telephone Oh, because you know these criminals like people are smart in other ways. Some people are smart of being a like remember like Gary Ridgway Gary Ridgway's IQ was what 82 but hell of a serial killer and a hell of a truck painter wonderful detailer remember that Remember that was his job. He was a detailer. He detailed trucks But in the context of what you were saying you were talking about how they can be intelligent and a killer, but he could just paint Yeah, that's a huge it. That's an intelligent. That's a physical intelligence. Yeah

Is it like if you ever heard Jimi Hendrix speak? He could communicate through music beautifully beautiful, so you're equating Peewee Gaskin and Walter to how Jimi Hendrix what they are to murder I actually I would more compare Gary Ridgway to Jimi Hendrix. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah interesting So Peewee figured he'd better get rid of some evidence after he talked to Walter Neely And he also figured he'd skip town for good just in case because police were closing in on him, right? Peewee said he took his whole toolkit from his coastal kills and sunk them in the swamp which he said is why no Evidence of those crimes was ever found which conveniently makes Peewee look smart while also making his coastal claims impossible to verify, okay

But one thing Peewee said he couldn't bear to part with was his beloved toothpick That's that big 11-inch knife that he likes. Oh, yeah, yeah, then he put in the vagina He said he did he said he did well, we don't got to get into that So I was thinking more of one of Uncle Buck's bowling partners remember that and Uncle Buck the guy was they call me pal Was it pal or bud? I don't remember. I don't he was a good uncle though Well Peewee said after throwing everything else in the swamp He went to downtown Florence put the knife in an envelope and mailed it problem is though

He never said where he mailed it, and he never said who he mailed it to so who knows this damn knife ever even existed To a young Gordon Ramsay Opens up his mailbox one day, and he sees this knife in there, and he's like oh, she's a right finer Fucking becomes one of the best celebrity chefs ever exist of all time with the magical knife He calls toothpick now all we do know is that had Peewee not gone to Florence for whatever reason that morning He may have never been caught. Wow. I honestly think he did go to mail a knife Just dumb enough to do something like that As it was as Peewee was getting into a cab that was on its way to the bus station

He was recognized by someone Peewee only refers to as quote unquote a business man Which essentially means a cop dressed up as mr. Monopoly Saying like the best part about this costume is I look like a business man, and no everyone trusts a business man Up to his knees and swamp muck Whoever this businessman was he called the cops they caught up to the cab and finally Arrested Peewee gaskets. Thank God. I feel like this one is it's been a long journey to get to this arrest Mm-hmm. My goodness And they put him Robert Picton they they captured him in a in a walnut case

Literally just like the at the shell of a walnut. They put him inside of it like he was a terry the gnome But that arrest was only on the relatively minor charge of contributing to the delinquency of a minor Mm-hmm Peewee sat in jail for three weeks waiting it out And he would have eventually been released and gone on his merry way had Walter Neely not grown a conscience Oh, Peewee said this Later I was told he said he started having dreams about me killing Diane And he started feeling real guilty about being there when I killed Dennis and Johnny and him helping me bear with him It was told to me that Walter got so scared when he was alone in the dark that he started thinking

He's seen ghosts. That's crazy. Yeah, also. I known as the Christmas Conkel Version the worst dumbest version of a Christmas Carol. I mean we're like, oh, no, I must change Haven't him trying to give a quarter to an orphan to buy a goose and the orphans like this is not enough money to buy a goose So after the ghost came Walter decided to seek a little spiritual guidance and therein laid Peewee's downfall Walter confessed everything to his preacher and the preacher convinced Walter to confess it all again to the cops Hmm about Walter's confession Peewee said Sometimes I think I must have growed myself a four-foot dick to be able to bed it around and fuck myself Like I've done when I trusted Walter nearly. That's very good alliteration

You imagine at a time at Sam's Club, he must have been kind of a blast. Maybe yeah, like my dad was when he was away from home Right. Yeah, but then when he got home, he wasn't so much fun. Nah, he was upset. Yeah Remember Peewee had told Walter everything and so Walter led cops to the private graveyard eventually as Walter didn't have exactly what you call a great memory or a solid sense of direction, right? This is our witness like oh good. We've got the fourth Peewee Gaskins multiplicity fucking clone But eventually they found the private graveyard along with the six bodies buried there then came alligator landing where Doreen Dempsey and her baby were buried and Martha Dix was soon found as well near the creek where Peewee left her and Lastly came Silas Yates and Kim Galkins who were found across the road from each other near Ropers Crossroads

So they were pretty close in proximity. I mean they were pretty much in the same County. Yeah And like the six were the six were pretty close to Peewee's house Ropers Crossroads was very close to where he lived And the and alligator landing was also like just down the road from his trailer because he supposedly the little swamp that you know he drowned The one Doreen Dempsey and her baby and that was just right down the road from his trailer That was very very close and now Ropers Crossroads also had this like it's kind of it's kind of funny If you think about it at this like one apartment in there

It was this little apartment building and one apartment that had this like kind of like straight lays dude who's trying to keep his shit together And then he was just kind of like this like hot blonde woman with like big boobies And there was a lot of sexual tension between him and her and then the serious Brunette that lived with the three of them and it's kind of like I'm saying because you know like two like twos What was it twos uh? A crowd to three company. Oh, yeah No Peewee was easily found guilty at his trial Peewee himself was the only person the defense had in their pocket to put forth and he had a logical explanation for

Everything so he did take the stand took the stand. He was the only person to take the stand for the defense I'm surprised you didn't defend himself. That's how dumb this guy is Yeah, he had a logical explanation for everything, but was seen at multiple points to check crib notes while he was on the stand Cheating yeah, but well he had plenty of he had a ton of time to think about an excuse for everything And he had an excuse for everything, but he couldn't remember at all So he wrote all the excuses down on a piece of paper and pulled him out of his pocket and looked down Oh, mr. Gaskins. I'm the judge here art. Do you have did you write the answers on your hand you say right the answers? But I had the answers to begin with so in order for me to then express them to the

A lot to me when they gave me that smoke bomb. It's not that's a final treat The judge did sentence him to death Okay, but Peewee pled guilty to seven of the other murders in exchange that death sentence for life in prison And as far as the other murders went by the time they came around We were in that oh so brief moment in American history when the death penalty was Unconstitutional and so Peewee was safe for the moment that time That's a that's why Peewee Gaskins was not executed wise son of Sam wasn't executed Charles Manson a lot of these like 70s a lot of these 70s guys weren't executed because they were convicted in that time

It was like a two or three year Break in the death penalty nationwide I am personally against the death penalty. We all are but I understand that's bad timing If you are against the death penalty, yes immediately Manson son of Sam Peewee Gaskins eaters like all right fine Now you might think that that'd be the end of Peewee's murder streak, but he still had one more to go Wow This one would finally send Peewee to the big-boy electric chair. All right that last victim was named Rudolph tiner

Rudolph tiner was convicted for the 1978 murder of an elderly couple named William and myrtle moon He killed them with a shotgun over 200 bucks in a convenience store robbery on the South Carolina coast A tiner was sentenced to death twice in two different trials There was some malfeasance malfeasance, you know, they did they had a very very long process to get him to death row And in 1983 he still had the whole appeals process. So tiner's time in the chair was far in the future But even though he was sure to eventually get there the process wasn't moving quick enough for William and myrtle moon son Tony Simo So Tony started asking around the bars in Myrtle Beach looking for someone who could make it happen a construction worker

He found said he knew a guy who knew a guy and eventually Tony Simo was put in touch with Peewee Gaskins Man, he's still so number one Peewee Gaskins is back in jail, which is his safe split is his safe place He loves being in jail. That's where he always was best. I imagine he's getting a lot of attention He's getting a lot of respect in jail Now he's still a fucking fixer in jail Like when he goes to jail, thank you because of all of this shit He's talked about for so long people view and he still says yes to this shit. So he's in jail when this happens He's in jail. I mean, he's a mate. He's worked his way up to he's like a cellblock maintenance man maintenance chief

Like he's pretty much a trustee and he's also got this reputation because now he's got you know Before, you know, he had a bit of a reputation, but now he's going in there. He's got 13 murders, right in addition to everything else So Peewee is I mean he is not run in the prison, but he's very Influential and he's you know kind of bored. So he's like yeah, I'll kill him and also that you know Simo offered him money He's like yeah shit. I guess, you know, I can spend in the commissary I'm bashit on it on the outside and smuggle it in sure. So yeah, he says yes All right now killing someone on death row is say the least extremely difficult to pull off Yes, but Peewee found a way his original plan was to befriend tiner with free drugs

Just weed it first then move on to quote-unquote mystery drugs that Peewee promised tiner would get him higher than he'd ever been As tiner was not a smart man now tiner Let me ask you this. Have you ever heard of an everlastened gob stuff? I ain't never heard of it. It's a hard candy that never diminishes in size or flavor and You could put it up your your butt It makes you go crazy

Yeah, I got y'all now. Yeah All right Mystery drugs were actually just concoctions spiked with oleander or strict nine smuggled into the prison by Simo But either the drugs were too weak or tiner was too tough Oh now what we've got right here is Peewee Gaskins himself We're finally gonna hear Peewee Gaskins actual voice. This is him talking to Tony Simo on the phone about the troubles He was having killing tiner as Peewee recorded every single Conversation that the two had

We give that son of a bitch all of us but one dose and all of us are doing it making that son of a bitch sick We put it in some damn book for him to drink the other night He drank and two more drank and all it was made all three of them sick as hell There it is. I am not too far off. No, you're very accurate Not too far off. He talks like an old southern woman. He does Yes, like his cadence and the way he got curl the way he kind of comes down off of every word like he talks like a southern grandma Yes, he's that problematic character from Family Guy. Yes, it's technically between that and mr. Hankey So weird so after the poison didn't work Peewee came up with what you got to admit is a fairly impressive plan

Actually, this is even people who despise Peewee Gaskins are like actually this is pretty fucking smart This is very impressive like Nicholas Cage the rock smart. It's getting it's getting there. Yeah It's definitely getting there. Yeah, and we know that this story accepting one part is actually true Okay first Peewee used what influence he had in prison from being a cell blocks maintenance chief to get a cell next to Tyner's on death row despite not being on death row himself. That's how influential Peewee was He was not on death row. He's like, why don't you put me on death row? Because it's like an HGTV show that needs to happen It's like fixer-upper cell block addition

Now once Peewee got over to death row He was able to talk to Tyner But they were still far enough apart where they had to yell to do it because Peewee had built up this friendship with them So Peewee made the suggestion that they could rig up a kind of two-way radio system with wires and cups Which Peewee volunteered to build Peewee's plan was to rig the system to explode Killing Tyner. So all this time we have thought that Peewee is a porcupig when in actuality He is a wily coyote. Yeah, this is sort of like the end-of-usual suspects

All Peewee needed was explosives. Now this clip is him giving Cimo more orders over the phone I come up with something. It can't be no damn making sick on Ian. I need one, he like the cap and As much of a stick of damn dynamite as you can get. Okay Well, I'll probably get this plastic explosion. Well, I'll be good. I'll have a gordita. I'll have a taco supreme Mountain Dew As much the better you can get that's what I'm gonna do the rest of it like this It's gonna sound like this like an old lady He's great. It's crazy

And this is how we did it According to Peewee all the parts were delivered in three different shipments to three different inmates One inmate got a boombox which had a length of wire wrapped around the cones of the speakers The electric screw connectors and plugs were smuggled in cigarette packs And finally the C4 was stuffed in the hollowed-out heels of a pair of boots And here's the only contradiction in this story We know Peewee got the C4, right? He at the very least implied Simo gave it to him and of course Simo was just

Recorded saying he can get plastic explosives as C4 is right, but Simo said in an interview He did with the Washington Post in 1983, which I would actually recommend looking up It's a fascinating interview a fascinating story. They did on this whole thing But he said that he has no idea how Peewee got the C4 the only thing he sent him in boots Was Strychnine, but no matter who here is telling the truth. It worked Peewee stuffed the cup with the C4 rigged it up with an electrical cord and gave it to Tiner telling him That Peewee's cup was on the other end Tiner's instructions were to say this is Tiner over to you

And then put the cup up to you This is Tiner about to explode. Why do you want me to say that? Use to say that and then put the cup up to his ear to get the response from Peewee Of course, this didn't actually work, but Peewee was able to hear Tiner through the air ducts So when Peewee heard him say the phrase this is Tiner over to you He waited just long enough to Tiner for Tiner to put the cup over his ear Peewee then plugged the bomb into the wall Setting it off in a deadly explosion so powerful it blew Tiner's fingers across the cell block

Killed him instantly. I just feel like he's like Yosemite Sam just like with the TNT just exploded it in his jail cell Just like covered in sun at the end Wow, that's crazy. That's crazy It's insane and we know he did that he pulled this off He pulled this off from beginning to end now at first there was no investigation as Tiner had attempted suicide before and prison officials Figured this was just the logical conclusion He blew his fucking head up! That's not a suicide! You hand yourself with your fucking shoelaces!

Well, they thought that he made a radio bomb. That's that's what they said even though Tiner was another moron Right. We're not dealing with the brightest bulbs here No, we're not dealing with the brightest bulbs, but but they said that you know Peewee they said that Tiner Yeah, he killed himself because no one gave a shit about right. He was on death row He was a horrible criminal He had killed an elderly couple with a shotgun for no reason like what Tiner had done is he had taken the $200 He went out of the convenience store decided fuck it and went back inside and blew him away I mean he deserves to die obviously. Yeah, of course. He was fucking awful

But pretty soon all the little fish that had to be involved to make this plan happen started making deals Of course remember the there were three people that had to be involved just in the delivery of Just in the delivery of the parts and it wasn't long before it all came back to Cimo who rightly rolled over on Peewee Cimo pled guilty got a sentence of eight years and was paroled after two and a half. All right But Peewee was shit out of luck. Uh-huh prosecutors have been trying for years to figure out how to fry him And he just handed them the opportunity Prosecuting attorney Richard Harputlian. Uh-oh led the charge and Peewee finally got his date with the electric chair I honestly bet you that he was happy when he finally got the death sentence. I don't think that's what he wanted

I think what he wanted though at the same time I don't think so at all. It doesn't he wanted to die. It's that he liked the idea of being on death row Hmm. It's it's not a very comfortable life. I'll tell you that see that's the thing I this is why I don't agree at all Because this is the and this is the biggest reason why I don't believe the coastal kills Peewee loved prison He talks about it again and again and in final truth He would have happily worked on his block as a maintenance man for the rest of his life Mm-hmm living on as he called it mustaches and muscle-ass

Is that a coffee flavor Is that a new vape that's coming out? Good God That is just licking the floor of a barbershop Yankee, Yankee, Candle God Alright, that's he and well anyway And he'd already used bodies as a bargaining chip to get out of the death penalty before and had he killed as many as he says

He did surely he would have remembered where he stashed one or two at least But he didn't and he didn't even mention the coastal kills to anyone except Wilton Earl and final truth and his daughter Half pint who's honestly a little suspect in her storytelling as well Okay, if you're if you are if your name is half pint enough to the point where you refer to yourself as half pint Which is what his daughter did several times as I see that or say that You're not the most reliable witness of all time. I think that's a fun family half pint full pint quarter pint That's fun. Well, I think a half pint enjoys the attention. Sure Didn't get a lot. Yeah, he was a part of six families

She was one of six families that be we had so when she got him on Thursdays She was happy, but that was really it. That's a big day. Yeah. Well, she said, you know At one of the documentaries that are online. She said at the very end of it She's like, yeah, he was horrible and did horrible things, but I still loved him because he was my daddy He's my daddy my diddy. Yeah, do they ever called the prosecutor her poop lian? You know, that's why you probably that's probably why he got to become a prosecutor in the first place probably yeah Furthermore when Peewee did try to give law enforcement bodies It was always in the immediate Sunter area. It wasn't out near like Dogville and Ketchup town and all those weird ass places

out and near the coast And honestly, I'm in agreement with law enforcement on this one and they say that Peewee took all these guys outside to look for bodies Just so he could try to escape. Oh, yeah, because they said in one of the documentaries That even like when they would go out and look for bodies He just kind of wander around a field and he kind of his eyes would constantly be darting around and every once in a while like a Pickup truck truck would come. Yeah, wait for a while and then drive off Because maybe trying to pick them up trying to pick them up because you imagine how adorable It would be to watch this little guy try to run away

You can stare at it for like five minutes and get like ten feet Well, the problem is that you have like what you've the two officers are above six foot How many times have you and I kissle have been in the same room and you have turned around and just looked over me Yeah, you just look past me. It would be so easy to just miss him Well, thanks about Peewee. He never gave up trying to escape Three weeks before his execution Peewee put together a plan to get himself off death row That was decidedly less impressive than the one that got him there in the first place He just put his arm on his hip and said I'm a teacup

I am not Peewee. I am a teacup. Get me out of this room. How could you possibly ever put a teacup to death? It's the cutest. I'm the cutest kind of cup. You can't kill it Assisted by friends on the outside Peewee arranged to have the daughter of Richard Harputlian Kidnapped and the daughter would then only be given back in exchange for Peewee's freedom But once Peewee's friends realized they were dealing with Richard Harputlian district attorney They informed Harputlian of the plan and the whole thing fell apart Sometimes being a leader is also about the people you choose to delegate your work to You have to get good people

Such a ridiculous idea. And so Peewee's day of death finally came on September 6th 1991 and here's what he said in final truth looking forward to that day On Thursday evening, I'll order my last supper probably a pizza, which I don't like but I don't figure to eat it anyway But not long after midnight One of them paramedics will down my pants and put a rubber band around my penis Make me bend over so he could shove cotton wadding up my rectum So I don't offend the witnesses by pissing and shitting all over everything when the switch is thrown After that they'll release my body to my daughter who have me cremated

I want that done right away because I've got a lot of letters over the years from Satan worshippers and black magic Practicers who want my corpse Some have even wrote and told me that if I don't leave my body to them legally in my last will and testament They'll find out where I'm buried and dig me up They say they want my corpse because it'll have special powers of evil on account of all the people I killed and every year on the anniversary of my execution They want to hold a black mass in my name to honor my memory and remind the world of who I was Who doesn't like pizza?

What the hell is that is not by even ordering this is my thing too. It's the same thing with Charles Manson Why are they so fucking obsessed with happens to their body? Have it be gotten by a bunch of blood like a black mass people to put it up in a fucking Pedestal and shit. Well, was he religious in final in final in final truth I don't think he ever mentioned religion once and in fact I think he had a bit of a nut against religion because it was a preacher that That convinced Walter Neely to talk. Oh, yeah, I think he called it like God-bothering and that type of shit. Yeah Yeah, and also I don't know why in that second paragraph when he makes sure to put a rubber band around my penis and

Make me bend over and shove cotton wadding up my rectum being very being very clinical there And then like in the very next part going so I don't piss Shit He was very professorial about it All I know is is that Wendy's poops are the size of of cocktail weenies. I can't imagine his poops are that big Wendy the cute dog. Oh my goodness. So it's all done for pee we look at this And when the time came the only people who showed up were pee we son Donald and pee we's attorney And when the prison guards asked pee we if he hadn't any last words pee we just gave a thumbs up to his attorney and said quote

I'm ready to go And that's the final truth That's the final truth Dropping cotton swabs the whole way down. Oh My do they really do that do they stuff them up like that? Yeah, I don't know if they actually do it But I know that there's something like it I don't know if it may be back of the day things were more intense, but I think you put something up your butt This is 1992

Yeah, 92 and his his last words did we're not and that's the final truth just He just said I'm ready to go and gave him a thumbs up and he said he had a smile on his face He was totally relaxed just like yep, I'm good Because I think with final truth after he had told final truth and you know and Wilton Earl had you know written the whole thing because That's the thing is that pee we's only Condition for final truth was that it not be published until after he was dead Right, so I think pee we went to the chair because I think he just had all these fantasies in his mind that you know Final truth was going to be a million New York Times bestseller

Everybody in the world was going to read final truth and know exactly who he was When in fact final truth sold very few copies. It didn't do well Didn't do well. No, no, no, I think it was because of all the disgusting shit in it Phrases in it that he couldn't that could not be repeated by most people But yeah, he had his you said here. You got his fucking legacy intact, right? I'm ready to go. It was his black star He dropped it as soon as he right about to die. There it is. All right, pee we gaskins Whoo, four parts intense stuff horrible person. Yeah, or everyone really in this store There's not a lot of redeeming characters in this one Johnny night was an innocent Johnny night is who again Johnny night was

One of his last two victims like like Johnny night like he was a huge Dennis Bellamy's half-brony Johnny night was only 14 You know, he was just he was just of course the victims. I'm not yeah, I'm say the perpetrators Oh, the perpetrators were fucking horrific. Yeah, they were all terrible and even then some of the victims You know, they were you know fucking terrible criminals as well. Sure, you know, it was like the mob, you know Except a really stupid and really dirty right thing. I'd also say about pee we gaskins is that it's really just the fact that he was a terrible Criminal he was a terrible criminal boss and it's kind of like when you cut yourself with a dull knife How the cut is worse Instead of a sharp knife or it's like something I guess we've been listening to a lot of stained

There was that whole market of like middle-aged white male sympathy, yeah, which was not a good time for music By the way, I have gotten a lot of love for my defense of matchbox 20. Thank you very much. Just like the ocean I never like it. I will never like it. I don't listen to my controversial stance for for all time Yeah, that's the days that no one's really disagreed with the Star Wars conversation we had at the end A lot of hate. You're getting a lot of hate. I've got a lot of hate for matchbox 20 But a lot of love for matchbox 20 and some people even saying that we didn't talk up third-eye blind enough. Yeah, jeez That's the one that has the senses Yeah, I know this is the person who has a well if you hadn't been drinking all the water with all the fluoride in it

Then your third eye wouldn't be calcified calcified also remember this so we're you know 2017's over 2018 just get ripped up. I think it's a partner a member with the recent UFO disclosure That has come out also wormwood being timed mysteriously with it coming out on Netflix Which shows a lot of what's happening deep in the black ops of what the in the intelligence community is stuff that has gone unchecked There is a secret government that I think technically are the only ones doing things correctly right now

But also at the same time doing bad shit because if well one percent of what the UFO disclosure That all of that news talks about is true Same thing would happen with wormwood where it's like the government was actively doing fucked up shit and we let them get away with it What do you think they're doing now? Huh? What do you know now? I watched the video. I defended the video a naval pilot shot it But now I don't even want it to be true Because I just I don't like this well It's fine. You don't you just don't understand your world view is too small. Do you think my start is blind?

Yes, yes, and then maybe that's a part you had a list of that album. Yes. I will all right Stand back from the edge my friend. We have episode 300 coming up. Oh, yeah, we just did two ninety nine point seven five Seven five So CD that I imagine are deeply triggered. They're all right. So we'll be back at it with episode 300 Can't wait 2018 will be a fun year and we'll see what this year was crazy We should do we should do a whole year in whatever yeah, yeah I mean, thank you like this year was the first year that we really went out on the road. Yeah, we did I mean, I can't even count how many cities we did this year. We did did 35

I think that's what we said a lot of they think we did 35 studies this year. Was it really 35 or yeah, and yeah It's just been uh, honestly, this has been I it's a it's been a challenging year It's been an overwhelming year There's been a lot going on for a lot of people But I think that in the end it's all for good and I think that it what what's happening is gonna end up Helping I think the insanity of 2017 is gonna help helping in 2018 And it's just you guys have been here and supported us this entire year in an incredible way and it's been life-changing Well, I don't want to the robot is tying up Jackie in the living room right now

You can do whatever it wants as long as the floors are clean Truly especially going out and doing all the life shows and meeting all of you like it was truly a privilege Yeah, that's the best word I can use to describe it to have the year that we've had because we wouldn't have had this year Without all of you, so thank you so much We couldn't thank you guys enough for giving to our patreon and allowing all of us to quit All of our day jobs and to really be free to make this show and the last podcast network The best that it possibly can be and we got a lot planned for 2018 So thank y'all so much. This has been it has been a really fantastic year

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My own plan is to swear off every kind of virtue so that I triumph even when I fail Yeah I guess that's gonna lower in the bar there. Yeah, all right. Goodbye. Goodbye