Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 355: Leaving Neverland

Episode Date: March 9, 2019

This week, we're doing a mini deep-dive of LEAVING NEVERLAND, the Michael Jackson doc. Plus, some TRANSHUMANISM talk. This week, we're talking LEAVING NEVERLAND, the Michael Jackson doc. Plus, we discuss TRANSHUMANISM.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last time. On the left. Side stories. That's when the cannibalism started. Side stories. So, I don't know about you guys, but I sat down watching the MJ documentary, Michael Jackson. Oh, not the MJ one, the one about the concert that he was gonna do. Or Michael Jordan. That's another MJ. You know what was really interesting that I learned? I thought it was like, whoa, Michael Jackson loves popcorn. Yeah, I know it, and apparently wine as well.

I mean, that's later on, he acquired that habit. Yeah, who knew? I guess to maybe sort of soothe the demon so he could sleep. Yeah, I think that's a really important takeaway from leaving Neverland. He loved popcorn. I think he was having sex with these kids just to start having more popcorn. I have no idea, maybe. Okay, this is side stories, everyone. I am Ben Kissel. Marcus Parks is also with us today.

Yeah, this is our first experiment, our monthly extra side stories to give us more time to really dig into our main episode. Yeah, I get really shaft deep. I guess shaft deep is not that deep, because you can get half a shaft in there. Well, you can do a whole series of things with that. And of course, Henry Zabrowski is also here in beautiful New York City. It's only 26 degrees here. It's horrible. I was in the shower today and I realized I got some hairs growing up the shaft of my penis. Wow. Well, big Michael Jackson news.

Big Michael Jackson, we have a lot of stuff to get to. We're going to talk a little bit about transhumanism later. And of course, what's going on with this artificial intelligence. I don't like it one bit. And we also have a couple of tales from Marty the Robot. And of course, we talked about him last. Well, it's this week's show. My goodness gracious.

He's invading all the giant foods. He's invading the giant supermarkets. Marty the Robot and we got a couple of DMs from a few people who were traumatized and triggered by the sight of him. He's not invading them. He's being invited in. He's being hired. By the man that be. Doesn't he just clean up spills?

No, he doesn't even clean up spills. That's exactly what he does. And then some poor lackey has to come and clean it up at the command of Marty the Robot. So he only alerts people to spills. He does nothing. He doesn't do anything. You know, he is there building the acceptance of Marty in these stores to eventually replace the people whose jobs are to put things on shelves. That's my take.

Marty is what everyone. We all have that one kid in our family who was touched. Right. He's just doing the job where it's like, OK, Randy, go go. Let us know if there's spills. And then Randy goes right. He's like, there's a spill over here. Thank you for doing your job, Randy.

But Randy, in this case, has got the treads of an army tank and also probably have the, I mean, like, if you revved them up, if you take the guidance thing off them, like they do, what's it? What's the put on, like, go carts? A governor? Yeah. Wouldn't you take that off? It's going to be unstoppable. Oh, yeah. It's going to be a freaking bloodbath.

Clean up an aisle every one of them. And Marty will be like, blood, blood, blood. You are very, very focused on this story and a part of it's got to do. I mean, you're just very scared of the future. And you shouldn't be. No, I'm not scared of your clots. I'm not scared of the future. I'm scared of people being too stupid to make the future the good version.

It's too late. If we just have a bunch of dumb Marty's going around trampling over toddlers in the supermarket aisle. Well, guess what? If they don't have the street smarts to get away from Marty, then they deserve to be destroyed. I'm one of those. If the robots can't take over, we deserve it because we allowed them to do it. I really want to talk about who's getting in front. And as far as artificial intelligence goes, it's really coming from the Chinese these days.

Yeah, you need to read the MIT technology review. I'll send you some stuff. We'll talk about it next time. Thank you so much, Marcus. I can't wait. So the big Michael Jackson news, a musical to premiere in Chicago. It's titled, Don't Stop Till You Get Enough. Hell yeah.

This is the Michael Jackson estate in Colombia. This is actually true. This is so obviously leaving Neverland to traumatizing, triggering a disgusting docu-series about James Safechuck and Wade Robson telling their experiences with Michael Jackson. But as soon as I saw episode one, I then did do a little Google search and it looks like the play is still on. The Broadway. And by the way, does it have to be called Don't Stop Till You Get Enough? I mean, that's what he-

That's not the worst possible name for a Michael Jackson play right now. That's what he said to himself in the mirror every day. I want his documentary. Number one, there is four hours of it. Of some of the more grueling content I've seen in a while. I listen to the stories of Wade Robson, James Safechuck, and it is compelling. They talk about the stuff. They look like specifically Safechuck.

Looks haunted. Like he looks like. And the type of shit they talk about is the type of stuff. And he's like, I know we've said this before on the show. In my mind, what Safechuck was talking about, I guess we'll go into some of the graphic detail. Because I know part of the reason why the documentary was so graphic is it was a part of the telling the story of these guys know nitty, bitty, gritty details about Michael Jackson's body and what they went through in their quote-unquote relationship with him, which really sort of was a relationship.

Oh, it totally was. That's the way Michael wanted it. To avoid a 10-year-old boy. I don't even want to be on a plane with a 10-year-old boy. Yeah, let alone Marion one. That's a hell of a commitment. That was the moment of the documentary when Safechuck described the wedding that Michael Jackson had with him and showed the ring that Michael Jackson used to have.

His hands were shaking. Yeah, his hands were shaking the entire time. I was trying to crawl over the couch to avoid watching it, but I couldn't stop. So, I mean, I think obviously there's a lot of people who are saying that this is nothing more than another smear campaign against MJ himself postmortem. There's a lot of people who are coming out to defend him. His acolytes will always be there, but you just have to think about what's more plausible. What's more reasonable?

A person stayed in the same bed with a child. A child stayed in their bed 365 days out of the year and something happened or nothing happened. What is more plausible? You're being ignorant. I'm not being ignorant, Michael. I know that you're up there. I don't even know where you are right now because maybe... It's real hot.

It's real hot where you are. Okay. It seems like this documentary is just, you know, really shedding a lot of light that we didn't know before about what you were up to with these kids. Shat mom, kiss her. Come on. No, that's just a song. You can't just...

Shat mom. That's you just can't do that. The ignorant. Oh my God. No, that's how I know it was... That's how I know almost that the relationship was real was when James Shavechuk, when the first... When the first time he was being groomed by Michael Jackson.

Right. When he basically... When he said, he's like, Michael, and Michael told me, he's like, people are going to say your relationship is weird and bad. And he's like, but those people, they're ignorant. Yeah. And I was like, that's what he says. He's a fucking go-to line.

Everything comes together. Like when you watch this documentary, all of those weird periphery things that you knew about Michael Jackson, the entire story starts to make sense. I forgot about Michael Jackson. Honestly, I like his music, but I hadn't thought about him in quite a bit of time. When this documentary came back out, you start like, oh, that is weird. And you know what is... Okay.

There's a lot of enablers there. A lot of enablers. But there's a couple of things, right? Number one, the enablers kind of almost got nixed out because Michael Jackson made all the shit as private as humanly possible. He took them to the Everland Ranch. They had staff in Everland Ranch, but it didn't have like agents and managers and shit. So Michael Jackson really was king of that little area.

So he isolated them. So it was very difficult for the enablers that were there. I mean, the biggest enablers were these kids' parents that seemed to be very taken aback. But we have to remember, you know, this is a time, Michael Jackson, the last real celebrity. This is like a time before the curtain was peeled back, no longer the celebrity exists. And these parents were starstruck. The Australian Adam or Wade Robson, who by the way, as soon as I saw him, I'm like, I recognize that dude.

And then I see the dance moves and I'm like, he's in sync. Yeah. And he actually filled in for Joey Fatone when Joey Fatone hurt himself in the No Strings attached video. Interesting. Good facts. But as soon as I saw him, I was like, I know that dude. But when his mother is talking about her stage mom kicked in, like initially it really was

interesting. But then, and so part of you wants to strangle the parents just to protect your kids. But we have to remember the power of celebrity was so much stronger. Yeah. But also, but still like think about the progression here. Like think about just for a second, imagine that Michael Jackson is not Michael Jackson. Put anybody else in that position. Put a bus driver in Michael Jackson's position.

Name like girl. The G-U-R-L-E. A bus driver starts hanging, like does a job with your son. Like your son has to go and help the bus driver clean the bus. He has to read to the bus driver to keep him awake on long trips. That's actually a really important job. Always takes a 10 year old boy. Yeah, sure.

And then the bus driver says, hey, I want to keep hanging out with your son. So the bus driver sends a camera crew to your house. To film him reading books to another sample stunt bus driver. To interview to dance. But of course. The bus driver says, make the boy dance. Has a camera crew there. And then imagine that a bus driver starts sending your son dozens of faxes a day.

It's me. Applehead. You're friend Applehead. You do do it. I love you. I love you. It is. Imagine that.

Of course. And it doesn't make any sense anymore. That's the power of sovereignty. And of course, Safechuck wanted to go in to be a director. So MJ was like, I'm going to make you a director literally in high school. MJ just got him all of this equipment and let him shoot movies on Neverland Ranch. He didn't even want to be anything. He was too young.

Michael Jackson planted that thing into his fucking head and then he went running with it. He built this whole reality around him that didn't exist before and then all of a sudden this kid, these kids and their families were literally airlifted out of their lives and dropped into Michael Jackson's universe. Well, it wasn't an abduction. It really was. It reads like an abduction.

It really does. It's another world that these kids were left in. Yeah. The way he completely separated them from the families and the way his staff. Enable that. Because what you said about Neverland Ranch, it wasn't just on Neverland Ranch because yeah. We had Westwood House, his LA Playland, whatever he called it.

Not just that. When he was on the road, because remember Safechuck's mother told that story where they went on the road with him because Safechuck started performing live with him. They went on the road with him. He would, Safechuck would stay in the hotel room with Michael Jackson and the mother at first she was in a hotel room pretty close by. But then as the tour went on, she kept getting moved further and further and further away. And it was not Michael Jackson that was booking the fucking hotel rooms.

No, this is right. It was his people. It was his management. I mean, how many conversations happened behind closed doors of are we going to let this go on? Are we going to enable this? And the answer every fucking time was yes. Yeah.

I mean, you know. Because his reputation was stellar. His whole thing was. How's about you stop him from doing it? I mean, honestly. That's what I would say. You tell Michael Jackson, no, but yeah, but that's what's hard, right? To say everybody talking about he was his hero for kids.

That's a part of why and we wonder why pedophilia is attracted to and pedophiles attracted to positions where they don't need to have their power check. That's why they become teachers. That's why they make themselves priests. That's what they make themselves. Police officers. That's what they make themselves. Fucking senators is because a part of it is that then they, you cannot seem to be mostly

musicians. But you know, it's all of them, I'm not a public service job is all of them. That's where they get it. They get attracted to positions of power because then there they are not questioned outright. Because that's what they said. When they said that Michael Jackson, that's his gissle. You're denying it because you want to be a senator, but I don't know what I'm denying it because I know a lot of teachers that listen to this show and I don't think they have a

lot of power. They don't make a lot of money and they're getting yelled at by parents all day long. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about personal power. I'm talking about personal currency, like people that can social currency where you show up and essentially you can end up in this gray area where when you say Michael Jackson wants to take your kid to a fucking dance camp, he wants to take him to Los Angeles, he wants to change his whole life.

And then you literally have like, you're a mom from a small town in Australia and you're just like, yeah. Okay. Okay. Perth is not a, she was from Melbourne for fuck's sake. Well, Australia is Australia, but no, that was really fascinating. And so with Wade, I mean, I think that's why he decided when he was 22 years old to defend Michael Jackson once again for the 2003, what was it, 2005, when he was on trial once again

for pedophilia. And that story to me is really, really sad because Wade, of course, he still owes his career to Michael Jackson and he knew that and he knew that he couldn't see Michael Jackson behind bars. Although that does make me think about Michael Jackson going to prison and how funny that first day would be where it's like, okay, boys, line up. I know what I'm doing. I'm bad.

Maybe he would have been like the most sought after, the most like cared for prisoner of all time or just Divo just comes and just hits him in the head right away and it's all done. Yeah, I don't know. But it seems like with Wade, when he did go and defend him again, when he was 22 years old, that's where a lot of the conspiracy theory or just a lot of the more contrarian views of being like, this is proof that he didn't actually molest Wade. But the sad thing about that is the kid who had the cancer, yeah, who brought the charges

against Michael, he's dead now, obviously he passed away. And it was like, you had a chance to like just go and blow the whole thing up and be like, you know, like, because Macaulay has never said that he was molested. And so whatever, I believe whatever they want to say, I actually, I just felt so bad for that frickin kid. It was his make a wish. It's a thing about class and status in this country. I know when you look at it, you say like, Wade Robson, the reason why I mean, you tell

me that you don't want to protect the entire life's work that you've worked towards. And you got you were abused. And so now you know, for a fact, if whatever you say, it is never easy to be a victim coming out and saying, saying these things happen to me, especially if it's somebody who's famous involved, your life gets fucking destroyed. Yeah, he had a very high profile career earners very in a lot of eyes on him. If you were to go after Michael Jackson, you mean tell me because what would happen instead if he still ended up like getting, uh, getting let off your whole shit's over, like it doesn't

really matter. People are going to suck me like you're a snitch. You're a part of it. You're a part of a group of people that are like, you're fucking with our money because Michael Jackson's an entire economy. He is everybody around him depends on the source of this talent for money. You're talking about a fucking 10% of the music industry was like the living off of Michael Jackson.

Well, and not just that. So you have the economy and in the financial terms, but then you also have people who really staked like their entire emotional well being based on Michael Jackson. Yeah. When like we talk about the trials now of the century, like Harvey Weinstein and these, there are no cheering, adoring fans, you know, when Michael was there when he was on trial, it wasn't 50 50 or 90 10. It was 100% in support of Michael Jackson.

It was exceptional unique public opinion was on his side as opposed to what we see today. As far as Wade Robson goes as well, you know, it's not just his career. He hadn't told anybody. Also, can you imagine what Harvey Weinstein fans would look like? He's just a bunch of producers. He's got a lot of good ideas. I want to be Harvey Weinstein when I grow up. It's a 45.

What else wrong with him? He hadn't told his wife. He hadn't told his mother. He hadn't told his brothers or siblings. He hadn't told anybody about this. So he had a choice, like either tell everybody this horrible fucking secret or sell it. And he chose to sell it like he chose to sell the lie and that's the other funny things is like he lied under Oh, no one has ever lied under in the fucking history of human

kind. Jackson had also completely groomed him. Yes. He felt like they were in love because he was entirely hypnotized by Michael Jackson's entire experience. And with Michael Jackson, too, it's like he was, I believe in my head, honestly, he was 10 years old in his mind. I think of Michael Jackson in his way because the way that all the mothers described him,

the mothers of the kids. But I think that was manipulation. Sure. But maybe, maybe. But also, I think at the same time, I don't think he was a well man. I don't think that he I think that obviously he is a pedophile. But I think a part of it is that he was a he was crystallized into this boyhood thing and we went and he had what he felt were real relationships with these children.

He grew them. They did all the shit. I mean, obviously, knew he was doing something wrong as a society. But guess what? He wasn't 10 years old. You know, he was 30, 30 years old with a huge old cock. And it's like, no, I mean, I honestly think that the more that that documentary showed him after the conversations that the boys were having became a predator.

A boogeyman. Yeah. His nose is falling off. He literally looks like Dan Ackroyd from Nothing but Trouble with a couple of weird ass nose nose. But he's trying to keep up his illusion, you know, but it's interesting, though, when you talk about the love, because I do think that Safe Chuck and and Robson, they did love him.

Yeah. And it's really difficult. And it reminded me of when people get out of Scientology and they talk about L Ron Hubbard. They still can't really criticize L Ron Hubbard. They'll still be like, now he was a really good guy that the Scientology kind of got messed up a little bit along the way, but he is a really good, like it was, he's a cult leader. Yes.

He is a global cult leader. And I mean, that's why he was able to be the Pied Piper of the world for children. But also, I think that you look at the pattern of the kids that he had actual physical relationships with, right? If you believe Wade Robson and Safe Chuck would like I do, a part of it is that it seemed to be he only physically crossed the line with the lower income kids that really, really needed him. Well, Macaulay Culkin was an equal.

Yeah. When they met. He was already famous. That was his fucking colleague. Corey Feldman was his colleague. He didn't sleep with them. He used, they used them literally, he had them as friends. They were friends.

And so he never crossed the line with them. The other ones he knew that not only can I, we can have this and I can get my impulses out on this child, but also who's going to fucking believe you. I'm also making your entire life. Yeah. I have made you move from Australia to here away from your entire extended family. I have given you with all of this. He can justify it that way.

And once that's how he justifies is all of his actions that I am making this family's life better. I'm bringing, I'm bringing them up and in exchange, I get your son. And once again, his musical is going to premiere in Chicago. Wait, don't stop till you get enough. We're going to want to check that out. No way will there be protests outside of it. It's going to be a smooth ride.

But after the R. Kelly thing too was the same thing. I'm watching all this shit. I'm fucking, you know, like my penis is inside out. Just like, all of a sudden I'm doing dishes, like trying to walk away from the television and it's just. Oh my God. No, you can't be Michael. You can be a Jones fan.

We are big Quincy Jones. Oh yeah. Quincy Jones production fans. Well, this is actually this is interesting. This is Christopher wheeled and he's the choreographer of don't stop till you get enough. This is what he has to say. He says, we all, we are all very clear that we don't want that we, that we, what, whoo, we are all very clear that we don't want this to be a concert or impersonation show.

We want it to be a portrait of the artist, a man of contradictions that contain so much beauty, a life like Michael's so rich, dense and troubled. But there were these moments of great lightness. We are interested in celebrating Michael and in breaking down his songs and really listening to them. So can you hear the tap dancing, just tap dancing around like, how do we sell this? And I will say again, to what we've said, I think we say a lot in the last podcast, if 1% of it is true, yeah, and 1% of it, if he just looked at that kid's butthole one

time, you know, when they go into the great details of what the, you know, it makes your skin crawl because, you know, we have, you know, that, that is just, it's devastating for these people. You know, man, it's all fucked up. It's not good. Yeah. It is absolutely devastating. And, you know, in the sense of fairness, I'd spent a long time today looking through

the Michael Jackson truthers, you know, looking through all that type of shit and one of the biggest things they put forth, and we already addressed a couple of these things, but one of the biggest things they put forth is the FBI investigations, like they investigated him for 10 years and put out a 300 page, a 300 page report about and about Michael Jackson and never brought any charges like, yeah, but did you read the fucking report? Did you see what was actually in there is in the report? There are multiple pages about a video cassette tape marked in part. This is what it's called Michael Jackson's Neverland Favorites and All-Boy Anthology.

Oh, it's like, it's just name it, it's just called I love pizza. Yeah. It's honestly, it's a scarier title, it's like a scarier twist than in the movie Get Out. Secondly, I love pizza that would feed into pizza gate and we're right back to where we started. The FBI went to the Philippines to talk to two former employees of the Neverland Ranch. This couple that managed Neverland Ranch from 1988 to 1990, they left due to disagreements

with other staff. They claimed that, you know, they saw Michael Jackson fondle young boys on at least two occasions in 1993, London Agents, and this is from a Daily Beast article that, you know, pretty much summarized it, 1993 London agents forwarded Los Angeles colleagues a letter providing background information on articles that appeared in the UK press concerning a British national who alleges that Michael Jackson made an indecent telephone call to him during 1979. Man, he's been doing this for a, he did that for a fucking while.

I mean, he had this thing worked out very well. I mean, that's- By the time he got to Wade and Safechuck, he had this thing worked out. Yeah, because that's what you, because you don't think, that was one of my first thoughts when I was watching the beginning of the documentary is like, you don't think about him doing this during the bad years. Like you don't think about him doing beat it and molesting kids. You think about it during dangerous, you know?

Yeah, like you and I alone, just him speaking to a kid alone in a shower. Well, it does, you know, that's the saddest part about all of this. First of all, Mr. Rogers, we still have him. Mr. Rogers is doing it every time. Every time a childhood hero is ruined, I'm like, we still got Mr. Rogers in the television. Guy Fieri is still not been in a dinosaur. Guy Fieri will always be great. The only news that he gets is that he donated more money than we thought to people who were

fighting the fires in California. Yeah, yeah, exactly. The only thing that Guy Fieri does is donate food. But when it comes to how good this could, Michael Jackson could have been a great person. Yeah, could have been. You know, he could have helped out so many kids and like the kids talk about during the days how much it was pure joy. He did though.

He did help, but that's the thing. But he did it. He did it for nefarious reasons. He did it as like an invoice for his crimes. Exactly. Like basically. He was like, this is the yin and the yang. Yeah.

And he of course did not molest every single child that he came into contact with. He's Michael Jackson still. He's got to plan tours. He's got to do all the choreography. He's got to do all the fucking studio sessions. He came into contact with thousands upon thousands of kids and, you know, and I'm sure a lot of them, they did just know him as a kind, kind man who came in, paid for medical bills and entertained them and gave them great, some of the best days of their lives.

But the few kids that did not get that, that got something entirely different, that got taken to the next level. Yeah. You got promoted. Yeah. I mean, it just puts a really sad cloud. Like when he helped, you know, buy the folks a house for the family, like it just makes everything gross because did he do it for, for being a good person?

Well, he did that after the first accusations. Of course. Because remember, Michael, he only, and this is something that I didn't remember. Michael Jackson only had one trial. 2005 was the only time he ever went to trial. Because he paid out the other, the other case, because he paid out the case in 93. And that played out perfectly for their narrative, though, that they just want the money. Yeah.

They played out perfectly. And speak of 93, like the FBI found a couple that had taken a train from Chicago to the Grand Canyon in 1992. Michael Jackson allegedly had four compartments on the train and Michael was allegedly traveling with a 12 to 13 year old boy who was ID'd as Michael's quote unquote cousin. The document continues from the FBI report, Jackson was very possessive of the boy at night. And the person who reported this heard questionable noises through the wall. She was concerned enough to notify the conductor of her suspicions.

Okay. And this was before any allegations came out. This was that report was made before any allegations or anyone said anything weird about Michael Jackson kids. He only had one official trial, but he almost had two. Yeah. And that's a good point where it's been like, how many trials need to happen before you wonder what does.

And also, after he got acquitted in 2005 or 2003, whatever it was, when he's dancing on the van, it's like he could get one up and he's just like moonwalking on the van and he's like throwing things at people and it's like a thing where you're just like, you know, if I had just narrowly been, what's the term, if I had just narrowly been proven innocent of a child molestation, I think I'd be a little like, I just never want this to happen again. I think I would be a little bit low key. I mean, I'm not saying that don't be like, I'm not going to judge his reaction really

because I mean, who knows, but still it's just like, it's a little bit like, yeah. Well, I mean, he really was. And of course, that's why Wade was so important for that. And everywhere he went, he had a show, he had a crowd to put on a show for. So and if you watch the very end in the credits, it's powerful. When Wade burns all the stuff that Michael Jackson gave him, did you see that party burn like the hat? Yes.

Love and all this stuff. And it's almost like you should have sold it. It's well, I know. Honestly, I thought that he didn't thank God he didn't sell it because I never be like, he's just selling it to make money. Yeah. I think he's actually doing well financially. Wade probably.

Yes, he is. I will say, and I wonder about paying out the other family, they shouldn't have taken that money. But if you put 20, I think it'd be $23 million, $22 million, and it's like, I mean, $22 million dollars. I fucking does a lot of walking and talking. I mean, it does. It does.

And honestly, you go to trial. I mean, when Mark Garagos is talking, it is horrifying when he's like, we are going to bring the hammer down on you. You are going to have a justice team up your ass if you try to mess with Michael Jackson. They were freaking scary. Yeah, it was like scarier than the mob. So if you're that family, you're like, let's just get in and get the hell out of here. Because this is going to cost us a shitload of cash, and they're going to destroy us.

They're going to destroy our lives. And concerning the lack of evidence, because they said the FBI raided Neverland Ranch and found no evidence, it was put forth in the documentary that Michael Jackson knew how to get rid of evidence. Because you remember the story when he tried having anal sex with Wade Robson? Yeah, I remember that fucking story, Mark. But when he was 14 and called him up the next day and was like, hey, you need to get rid of your underwear.

Where did you put it? Did you throw it away? I mean, he called them in, yeah. Yeah, he called them in, told them you have to go get rid of it, and he went and got rid of it. So Michael, he was doing this for so long. He was good. I mean, by the time the FBI came, by the time they were at like, he was so far beyond getting

caught. Neverland Ranch is not the park's ranch in beautiful Texas. It was how many acres? Hundreds of acres. No, it's thousands of acres. I think it was 2,800 acres. It was cool looking, and it's kind of scary. Did you notice like the front door looks like a mouth with eyes?

Yeah, it's all Disney. It's all Disney. It's scary. It's literally just Disney World. He made it all Disney-fied on the inside. It's this little magical getaway from all society meant only for a children's imagination. It's a children's imagination, but it also looks like someone's grandma's house. Yeah.

It's scary. But in a fucking awful way, because everything is displayed on those weird cabinets that's just like gold piping. It's just creepy. You mean classy. Yeah, classy. I love that gold. Let everyone know.

And then also, we didn't even talk about his sham marriage to Lisa Marie Presley. She had to kiss him, and I was talking with Marcus about this before. It reminds me of the end of Ace Ventura, just like, Finkle as Einhorn. Like, can you imagine it? Or like... Hey, listen, we're going to have to definitely have to kiss... We're going to have to kiss one time on camera, but what I'm going to need you to do is... I'm going to need you to get on your knees, because I like a shorter man.

I mean... I don't like it, Mike. I don't like it. Oh, Mike. But honestly, that was such a disgusting sham of a relationship. Yeah, it was. And again, I don't think that stuff can really happen anymore. I don't...

Quincy Jones is a hell of a producer. He is a hell of a producer, but I... The age of the mega, mega, mega celebrity is done. When you watch people crying at the sight of Michael Jackson, the huge throngs of people trying to get to him, like that, just maybe in Korea, like with K-pop stars, maybe that still happens. The Beeb gets a little love, but nothing the way that it was. No, nothing.

Nothing. Not in that... I think it's good. Also, not that big. The problem is you build these kind of cults of personality, and then they can't be touched. Mythical creatures. Because in the very center of all this, Michael Jackson was still a guy, he was still this dude.

I don't... It's not sympathy, but I understand that his life, he signed himself over. He was a victim of severe abuse. I know that that's how it always trickles down, which is like he basically put it on everybody else. And it's really unfortunate. It's really the way the whole story goes up, but he's dead now. So he doesn't get... he got out, he was poor, and he fucking died essentially alone, surrounded

by... He was murdered by his fucking doctor. He was not murdered by his doctor. He was murdered by his doctor. The doctor... I think that he actually seemed like he was... He kind of just wanted to check out. I think he's just a piece of shit.

That's what it seems like. I think he just started kind of getting hammered. He realized that the kids... All that sham, all like having the kids, which by the way, like he just... If you actually look at his real complexion in real life, those kids don't have any melanin in them whatsoever, so I don't know what Debbie Roe was doing. I don't know how... I have no idea what the hell that's all about, but that's a whole other thing.

But it seems like he was just ready to roll. Now at least with R. Kelly, we're going to maybe see a little bit of a get on it. That's a whole other freaking can of words. He's going down like, I just... That interview with... Let him go on TV like... Brilliant producers. I could imagine...

I can imagine his lawyer, the six hour long argument that had to happen, it's like, don't do it. Don't do this. Don't go. Don't go. I've got to clear my name. Honestly, he is. No, I don't...

It's not going to... And he just yells and yells and finally... All right. Fuck it. Go ahead and do it. Do what you've got to do. And then it just... It puts...

It just guaranteed that interview is one of those things where you could point to the moment and it's like, that's why you're going to spend the rest of your life in prison. Well, if people are going to love me, they're going to put me on camera and then, you know what? I believe I can fly. I've got deep psychological problems and it's a whole bunch of help. Probably help that Gale King is not going to be able to give him. So yeah, that was a whole other thing.

So anyway... Well, I'm just glad that I don't have to watch that documentary. I am so happy to be done with it, Leaving Neverland. It's important. Check it out. It is. It changes. You know, there's a lot of radio stations.

It's been like, should we pull the music and all that kind of stuff out? You know, that's something that'll be up for debate now. And you know... I mean, I don't know. That's one of those weird conversations. Strangely. Like, you know, I don't really have an emotional tie to Michael Jackson. You literally cannot avoid Michael Jackson.

No, even Wade was talking about how sometimes he's at a bar and he'll hear a Michael Jackson song and he'll literally start tapping his toe and then be like, oh no, I think this was safe Chuck. And then he starts tapping his toe and he's like, oh yeah, that's right. That's Michael Jackson. Then I got to go like, it's so in our culture. It's so marbled in like that sweet Kobe beef. So it's going to be interesting as a culture.

Do you think Weird Al is going to do fat anymore? Honestly... It should be allowed. He can. He can. Because fat... Yes. He can.

We allowed Weird Al to continue to play fat. Weird Al is now my Michael Jackson. Yeah, well that's... Michael Jackson made his career. It's eat it and it's fat. For years I've preferred eat it in fat to beat it in bad. Whoa, that shows a lot about your taste. I know it shows a lot about my taste.

I know it says a lot about who I am as a person. It's just the beat, I don't care what the words are. You know, bad doesn't make me laugh. No. It also makes me belly laugh. And it's funny because he's eating all that food. He's fat. Oh my God, although I'm sure some people are like that's fat appropriation Al, but Al

gets a pass on whatever he does because all he tries to do is bring true joy to people without some secret, disgusting, hidden past. He's got a fucking lacyc like a fucking cell out. Did he get lacyc? No, I'm back. No, I get that. He's got lacyc. Oh, right.

Leaving Neverland. Check it out, you know, and of course I don't like to mention it too much, but growing up with all those children that were molested in foster care, you know, it's very serious. So get help if you experience that, go through the process because you know it's interesting when you hear Safe Chuck and Wade talk about, you know, they say penis, they say anus, they say these things very specifically, but that's therapy. Yeah. That was them.

You could tell that they have gone through because they freaking better have because now they're in a world of like, this is turmoil for the foreseeable future for them. Oh yeah. They opened it. They opened up the whole fucking can of worms. So now they are now targets and we'll see, we're going to see how it pans out for them. I hope that they, I hope that they can continue to be strong in the face of all this. I also like, I also get that you love Michael Jackson.

It's very complex. I know that people are going to listen to this and get upset because they will defend Michael Jackson to the very end and you're going to say that they're liars, but it just gets to a point where how many people have got to say their words. How many people get that? You really think that they're saying this because it's fun and they're making a bunch of money. But even, even the guys mostly Wade though, he still loves Michael Jackson.

It really is. It's LRH. It just reminds me of a cult leader where they just can never, they can't break their brains away from it still because it's so happens at such a formidable time in their lives. Yeah. So that's leaving Neverland. Technically, you don't even have to watch it now because this was going to be full of

spoilers, but it's, it's, it's interesting and sad. You should definitely take a look at it to see for yourself. I really think that you should obviously, we've always been trying to do more on last podcast and the left, which is like, do your research, go walk the walk and see what you say. You, you will just believe people or not, like, but that is just, that's how it is. Yeah. And on our, in this world that we're in right now, I'm choosing to believe people because

you have to like, just think about it. Yeah. Just think about it. It's like, yeah. It's not, I mean, it's, it's, it's a big with Wade and especially with Wade Robson. It's a lot. It seems like there's a lot of great, there's a ton of great. It's not, but as simple as he told the truth back then and he's lying now.

No, it's great. It's great. It's all fucked up. That is the one because that's why I kind of lean towards the James Safechuck story because that I really feel for him. Like it's like a thing where he didn't really, he didn't get the Michael Jackson bump that Wade Robson got. Like he, Wade Robson owes his career to Michael Jackson and you could see why he tried so

violently to protect him in the beginning, but then it's also weird, the way he kind of comes out now is also very intense and I, but also I wonder if he came out now because he had the security of HBO fucking backing you and you got James Safechuck coming out and saying this shit to you. You know that they got themselves some insurance on that. That is going to, I can't even imagine how much that doc was to insure. Oh. That is going to be, anyway, so there, there, that is leaving Neverland.

Check out that interesting. Never enter Neverland. Never go. It's a cool-looking place though. I'll steal a joke. Jen Tisdale told me a really funny joke where she said, she's comedian and she said a very funny joke where she said, the best part about the documentary is seeing all the interiors. Being able to see all the stuff on the inside of it.

There is some nice interiors. Fly from your grave. Fly from your grave. All right. Well, let's just change subjects completely here. Thank you, Kissel. No problem. Vare Vikranis is back in the news just a little bit here.

Evidently, he lost an original CD version of a 1992 debut studio album from Burzum. He lost this. He lost this CD. Come on, Kissel. You have to say it. Burzum. Burzum. Whatever.

He lost this in a Jeep race. He gave it to a buddy. What a fucking piece of shit. That was in 2018 and that record or that CD just sold for $1,500. So Burzum still got it back on top. $1,500. It was the 19th highest purchased auction object this month. On this site.

On Discogs. Dude, Discogs is fucking serious. What is Discogs? It's just a place where you can buy records. It's a place where you buy used records. But you don't believe in buying records online. I will every once in a while, but I like the hunt. I really love the hunt.

I've never bought anything off of Discogs. Really what I use Discogs to go and check it out and see what the market price is so I know it makes sure I'm not overpaying for it. Oh, smart. Yeah, that's what I always tell Marcus. He's always out there hunting at vinyl stores as he just get on Google. You even use Amazon. You got to go to eBay and he's just like, eBay's cheating, Henry.

And I was like, I know it's cheating, but I always cheat. It's about the hunt. That's half the fun of it is going out and finding it. All right, so let's move on to a bit of a different subject from everything we've talked about so far because Marcus is here with us. Well, we're trying to do this. It's exciting. We have Marcus here.

It's really nice because it does sort of feel like, you know, like, because we're just two. We're like the bad bruiser boys. Is that right? We're the bad bruiser boys. You're Rocksteady. I'm Hermaphrodite. What's his name?

What was his name? B-Rinky-Dinky? Oh, yeah. I think it was Rinky-Dinky. Yeah, Rinky-Dinky. I remember Rinky-Dinky. That was the first one. Yeah.

But Marcus is our April O'Neill. Oh. And so nice. Big tiddy. That's weird. No, but April O'Neill is with the turtles. Yeah, that's totally wrong. We're Bebop and Rocksteady, so he's an enemy now.

And I don't wear yellow. I just think about April O'Neill sometimes. And I'm sorry I put that on you because you also sort of have the same, and this is not, it's a great haircut. Thank you. But it's the same haircut as the April O'Neill has from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie. The movie, yes. But she's got curly hair in the movie.

Red hair. Curly long red hair. Yeah, curly long red hair. Maybe I'm just putting all of these things together. I'm just putting all of these things together. I think you just want to have sex with me. No, I don't. Oh my goodness.

I don't want to go to town. But a part of it is that what we wanted to do was that with having the secondary side stories each week, part of what we'd like to do is add like little mini deep dives into tiny little topics that interest us. This week we talked far too much about MJ for me to talk about my bullshit, but Marcus has got some bullshit to sling. Oh, is that even necessary? Like a mini deep dive?

It's just something that I ran across that I found really interesting because one of the things that we don't really get to talk about a whole lot on the show is transhumanism. Explain what transhumanism is. Transhumanism is essentially the belief that we can go beyond our frail human bodies. Okay, I'm going to have such a crazy ergonomic fucking mechanical penis and big stomping legs, but I'm going to keep my top half normal because I like my top half. That won't be horrified. Yeah.

I mean, at its very lowest level, transhumanism is an artificial limb. At its highest level, transhumanism is uploading your brain to the cloud than everyone knows what's in your brain. It's horrible. We speak for six hours a week. Everybody already knows it's in our fucking brain. I know that. I don't know if I want to upload it in the cloud though.

Is it safe enough? Yeah. Well, what I found out and you know, just kind of browsing the internet is that some of the people that are at the forefront of the transhumanist movement right now, Mormons. The Mormon people. Yes. Transhumanism. Because people, a lot of religions hate transhumanism.

Yes. They think that it's like the one of whatever they want to identify that week as the mark of the beast. Oh yeah, of course. You know, transhumanism and the mark of the beast, like those two things go hand in hand. And I get where they're coming from because even the, you know, the chip that's imprinted into your hand, that's transhumanism. Yeah, I know.

They did it in Wisconsin. Yeah. Did you have the chip? No. They just super, whatever, the factory in Wisconsin where everyone wants to get their chips quicker. We've talked about this before. They put the chip in their hand so they can get chips quicker at lunch.

Oh yeah, but that makes sense, I guess. For you. Well Mormon transhumanists, and this is from a great New Yorker article that I read, is that Mormon transhumanists believe that science can bring about the quote, realization of diverse prophetic visions of transfiguration, immortality, resurrection, renewal of this world, and the discovery and creation of worlds without end. They believe the coming leaps in science and technology will help us realize the Mormon promise of achieving perfect immortal bodies and becoming gods.

So now I have a question, why the hell didn't Mitt Romney open with this in 2012? How crazy would it be? He was showing a big exoskeleton being like, aren't I closer to Jesus? You are technically, absolutely. This is kind of a cool side of Mormonism because as Henry alluded to, evangelicalism totally against this. I know some people who said if they get cancer, they're not even seeking treatment. They refuse that side of it, that science, medicine, that kind of stuff, because they

think it makes them further away from God, takes them further away from God. But I guess the Mormons have a different idea. Now in Mormon religion, we've been threatening this, and I think it's going to be vaguely soon. We want to deep dive into Mormonism, we want to talk about its origins, because it has occult origins, which are really fucking interesting, with John Smith talking to prophets, doing all this shit, but doing actual occult works. He was a student of the occult.

But Mormonism in the very end, right, his idea is that you get your own planet, is like you fly up into the sky, and essentially you become a light being, as has been described by the Pleiadians for many years. Joseph Smith just sounds like he might have been a trippy kind of guy. He's very close to LRH. Yeah, very close to LRH. Certainly a con man. Huge con man.

Got arrested for being a con man, I think like a year or two before, he's like, I found the golden plates. Oh, well, you found the golden plates, I mean, come on. Well the Mormons have a saying, as God now is, man may be. Fuck yeah! What are you talking about? Sounds like a Bersam song. Yeah, and Mormons have actually been at the forefront of technological breakthroughs throughout

the years. Like one of the developers of television was a Mormon. The guy who created the first, or helped create the first word processor, word perfect, was a Mormon. Really? The people at Atari, iOmega, those people were Mormon. The guy that made the synthetic diamond, the artificial heart, the electric traffic light, all these people were Mormon.

Because he didn't spend all their time fucking and drinking. Yeah, maybe not. Oh, I don't know, we've been to Utah and I think they do a bit of the drinking. I mean, our friends in Utah that we have, they do it, but they kind of, you know, they lose it. All I know is, of course, and I'm not going to mock an entire religion here, but I can definitely tell Mormons created the Atari, because they're like, this is pretty exciting. Look at how fast it is with the pole.

Watching Pong going, oh, how does it stay on the screen? It's a station of speed, it's too much for me. It's too much. Well, what's fascinating about it is that Mormonism, like the Mormon beliefs can be plugged into transhumanism, because that's what, the guy that's kind of at the forefront is this guy named Lincoln Cannon, who seems like a very, very nice gentleman. They sort of notice that these ideas of being able to live with your family in the afterlife, transhumanism, like ideas like the cloud, could easily be plugged into that, whereas

all of you are uploaded to the cloud, all of your memories and feelings and all that, you're all uploaded to the same server, you're on a family server, and it also plays in with the Mormon idea of being able to baptize someone after they're dead, because that is a Mormon idea is that if you can baptize someone, you can bring someone into heaven. That's how you get your gifts. Yeah. That's how you get your friends up there. Yeah.

You can bring someone into heaven. So, you know, that works with transhumanism as well, like being able to plug someone who's already dead into your server. So just a little channeling my inner George Norrie here, when it comes to the cloud and the brain, how do they get it? How do they get it there, because is that just going to be the things that we have publicly said, or I mean, how do you get what's actually, because everyone has some real weird stuff going on in their dough.

Very speculative. Let me try to explain. Basically, what they're in the middle of, there are several layers to this. One thing that they're trying to do is physically map the actual meat of the human brain using computers, right? Basically building a computer that has the same amount of what they would say are neurons and all the kinds of the brain. Right.

It's basically a gigantic physical representation, which they've been trying to do for years. Basically what they said is that what we have to do is build the road map of the brain, which is literally all of the transmitters it would take to put into a room, into a thing that would actually be the physical brain. Then the idea is that every part of our personality that we now know, there are bits of information. There are things that you can get from just the day-to-day conversations. They're saying a lot of what, that's kind of what Facebook will probably end up being, which is sort of a database of your personality.

They will sell this information to companies that will use this to make a sort of aggregate of your personality that they can make into ones and zeros, that they plug into this artificial brain and essentially it would map out who you are. That's one version of it. The other version is do, but they have services already that you can go and you can journal yourself. You basically write your private thoughts. You do videos of yourself.

You build a bigger and bigger version of essentially what you would do again, ones and zeros, that they would use some form of thing like these new deep fake software, whatever the fuck that shit is, they would use that to also sort of create a version of yourself. And so now the theory then is you never die. You have eternal life. Exactly. And then I guess, yeah, but are you, are you conscious in there? You know?

That's the question because then you start getting the theological debate of what is the soul? You know, and it goes on and on, you know, what is the soul? What is the person? What is the human? Yeah. That's, but what for me is really fascinating is like this sounds like something out of the transmetropolitan, like the Mormon transhumanist association sounds like somebody spider Jerusalem

would yell at. Yeah. Like, you know, like say what you will about the Mormons. I don't really care. All I know is that I like these people's ideas and like that seems like the right track for the future. Well, we need it. We need to watch it.

Marty, the point of Marty is a grander scheme of a slow roll of getting people used to seeing robots. Yeah. Physicians of power. Well, they are, they are our servants, but they just happen to be specifically physically stronger than us, right? Yeah. And then you would have to.

You can't touch them. You can't touch them. Not yet, but I will. You know, you can't touch them quote unquote by the fucking rules of giant foods. But if they fucking gets in my shit, I'm going to touch you. I'm going to knock it over. But the Mormon transhumanist association, like it's not, I mean, these aren't like hardcore LDS people.

Like they're, they're definitely like it's majority LDS, but they're atheists involved. There are people of other faiths involved. Like everyone is pretty much welcomed. It's like the person who wrote the New Yorker article went to one of their meetups and she said it was sci-fi Sunday school. That's so cool. Yeah. Sounds really, really fun.

I mean, they're sitting around and they're, you know, talking about Isaac Asimov and, you know, Philip K. Dick and all this shit and then like bringing in all, but then bringing in like Mormon ideals to it and trying to put it, put it all together. Like it's this great mix. I mean, it's also like, I mean, it also shares stuff with the occult because it's like mix and match. You know, it's like mix them up culture. Like let's put all these things together and find out what it is that makes us happy.

You can't let the Mormons define the transhumanist culture. It seems like they're doing it. We can't do it. I don't know. Lincoln Cannon seems, he seems like a very, a very nice guy and there's about, and they're growing every single year. Like I read a few articles because there's every couple years someone writes an article about these people.

They've been around since like the early 2000s when people started talking to each other on the internet. And every year, the number is there's like, well, there's only about 400 MTA members. There's only about 700 MTA members. Now there's like a thousand. So they keep growing every single year and getting more and more people, you know, and it's people because you know, there's a lot of people out there, of course, that have a lot of problems with the Mormon church, because the Mormon church is horribly fucked

up. Because they also harbor a lot of religions and they harbor a lot of predators hiding their power. Yeah. And they're further than the FLDS, you know, and all of that. But you know, it does have some of the, like it does have like LDS people in it, but you know, it's people that are still looking for that kind of, I guess, fellowship that are finding it here and finding it in a positive way.

That's kind of cool. I like it. This is the kind of shit that I've been talking about for years that I feel like I have received flak for on this show, you know, on Nonside Stories. Are you a victim again? Yeah. How did you make yourself a victim in this episode? You're ignorant.

I'm ignorant. I'm ignorant. Okay. Victim Henry Zabrowski. But a part of it is the, I really believe that they are, they're hacking into it, but this is the way we will evolve. Is the combination of our psyches with the robotics world, with electronics, a part of it is building literally the physical version of what is already psychically available, which

will eventually be revealed with science, so this idea that we already on a gigantic network, we are connected to each other by energy psychically, they're going to build the, the, essentially the, the physical arm of that. And I really do believe when all of that comes together, that is the only way we will evolve and the only way we could, we just have to make it till then. They're just going to make, they're going to put your personality inside of Marty. Do whatever you want, as long as it's, as long as it can be horny. Yeah, of course.

Well, I don't know if you can. But if we don't, if we blow ourselves up before then, then that's it. We're headed in a dumb route. We're using all the science for dumb shit. That's where we got to go. We got to be thinking towards the goddamn stars. Well, there's two paths. There's that path, there's the path towards, you know, intelligence, and then there's,

you know, it's, if we do survive, there's either the advancement path or there's the collapse path. Oh yeah. And the collapse path is when- No electronics. Yeah. Every- Every world has been extremely possible.

Yeah. Which is more likely, at this point, much more likely where human civilization collapses, most of us die, but humanity does continue and we evolve on a different path. They will be chastened, but innocent. It actually, transhumanism was coined by Julian Huxley, who was also the founder of the World Wildlife Federation. Yeah, and Aldous Huxley's brother. Oh, very cool.

Well, World Wildlife Federation had some weird, had some weird scandal shit going on with money right now. Does it really? Well then give it back to the wrestling Honestly, I love animals, but do they really have a scandal going on? There's something going on with like selling pandas for sex I'm gonna call slander Like yeah, fuck two cans

They're like we breaded with a bigger asshole. I'm like, oh, okay Satire satire All right. Well, I guess that's basically all the time we have for today. I suppose so I love that fuck I want to do more in transhumanism. There's also because there's a weird Christian sect of People that are also really upset about the they have this phantom idea that the u.s. Government is trying to combine humans and animals And it's like idea of building like dog people and like monkey men for our armies and stuff Which I'm not saying it's like a bad idea. I think it'd be cool. I'd see it

I think they're gonna go more with the robots. They're already doing that. I mean, if you want to see the real robots They're not at the supermarket. They're on the battlegrounds in afghanistan But they really aren't horrified. Well, that's what's cool. I like the idea of an automated army. It's very scary Amen, we got to do what we got to do. No, you like all the wrong ideas. No, I'll you need to play horizon zero done I do honestly more video games titanfall 2. No, I am incredible No, I've been playing a lot of sieve 5 and I'm becoming more and more of a despot within my own home Well, that's great book. It allows me to get it out and minecraft and building things I'm building things. I'm now playing with the Celts right now and I am a I'm a female emperor. So

Pretty congrats pretty cool. Um, all right, everyone will thank you all so much for listening to this Exciting at first, uh, kind of marcus tradition. Yeah coming on side stories Towards the end of the month. Um, and I hope we just don't like maybe we don't have to talk about michael jackson Like for a while. We don't have to talk about him at all now any any more ever again ever again. Yeah, we can just Zip it. It washes over you. It just it's all gone. Is the term cancelled He's cancelled. Is he cancelled? I don't think so. He's too big There's gonna be there's always gonna be there's always gonna be a large part of people that never believe Uh, and then there is going to be a large part of a large section of the population that won't care

Well, you know what you just did there marcus. You clapped back. Whoa, so he said he's cancelled and then you did a clap back And said can I know how's it? But can we just call it a response? It's clap back Sorry, buddy. That's about a response within a conversation I don't make the rules. I say this on the show I'm gonna say this on the show I'm gonna try not to dance to a michael jackson song ever again. There you go, buddy. Good luck with that All right, everyone. Thank you all so much for listening. Can't wait to see you in uh, well We got our show here at the bell house. This will be tuesday

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