Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 36: Sandwiches in the Matrix

Episode Date: February 17, 2015

Glitches in the matrix, masturbation sigils, and the writings of Philip K. Dick!

There's no place to escape to. This is the last talk. On the left. That's when the cannibalism started. What was that? Whatever. Are we ready to start? Are we started?

Don't number like that! No! No one wants to do you like anything! Alright, well welcome to the last podcast on the left. You guys are at the peak of being annoying today. It's un-fucking-real. Good morning! Good morning!

I worked with fat retarded kids at a YMCA for an entire summer and now once have I reached this level of insanity. I just feel like hungover men when they have to get up in the morning just you just ramp up your fake enthusiasm. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Love it! Love being awake!

Alright, well you're Marcus Parks, I'm Ben Kessel and you are... Tom Petty! Don't number like that! No number like that! I'm Tom Petty's guitarist. Don't number like that! No! Alright.

I'm Henry Zabrowski. Yeah. I know you're not Tom Petty. No I know, I'm looking at you. I'm just the master of a thousand voices. So that's what's hard. Is that what it is? Alright.

Well today, Henry promised us all this amazing research and he was going to shoot it over an email and then he came downstairs this morning and said it was all garbled up and bullshit. So we have nothing to talk about. Which is great. Alright, so what we were going to talk about today is the concept of glitches in the matrix, right?

I know Reddit is obsessed with this at this point in time and there's a lot of people. It's mostly just 18 year olds being like I put my sandwich on the table and then I went into the living room. I came back in the kitchen and the bread and the meat were all back in their packages

like I never made a sandwich. And I'm just like bro, yes it's very weird but I just think ma'am you just didn't make a fucking sandwich. You had a happy thought in your head about how nice it would be to have a sandwich. So it's like, but I honestly I had a pretty genuine experience

like in this recently. That's where all the sandwich involved. No, no, no, I make my fucking sandwiches with my eyes open. Alright. I fucking make sure I have a sandwich because I think I have a sandwich and then I don't. Man, fuck the world. I wouldn't want to see it.

The world is over. Absolutely dude. You stay in your room. So I was cleaning my house where I'm doing this massive spring cleaning before basically I'm leaving for a long time to shoot a bunch of shit so I'm just not going to be in my house and my house is disgusting.

So I was going through I have like piles of books like all over my house and I was going through my piles of books and I found this ring from my childhood my communion ring my cloud-out ring

and I called my mom Catholic thing a Catholic thing Yeah. I called my mom Was it Pewter? It's not Pewter. No, it's not fucking Pewter

it's fucking classy cloud-out ring Pewter. Pewter. I had a lot of Pewter figurines when I was a child. My mom kept me in a little I'm going to actually get them all back and put them up in my house. What's a Pewter figurine look like?

Deserts and dragons. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, cool. And so I also have the I had like five different stone gargoyles because I was really obsessed with gargoyles. Oh, yeah. So I'm going to bring those back.

You kind of look like a gargoyle. That's my gargoyle though. Yeah. I just burped into my own side. It must have been weird like not having any alone time with all those friends knocking down the door to try to play with your Pewter dragon.

It really was. It's hard to be the most popular child. So you're cleaning your house. You're going through your house. So I found this ring and I called my mom and I was like hey, mom, because I don't even remember

ever having this thing. Yeah, I didn't know it existed. And I called my mom and I was like, hey, do you have, do you have my cloud art ring for my community? And she was like,

oh, that's a funny question. Let me go look. And she went, she went into the file cabinet and went to go look. She's like, no, I don't, I don't have any Thomas.

What's wrong? And I was like, mom, I found it. I just, this is just my amalgamation of what my mother sounds like. She's Amy Winehouse. Yes.

I'm sorry for your loss. Yes. Yes. But she's like, what's the problem with it? What's your problem? And I was like, what's your bugle?

What's your bugle bugle? My son. And I was like, I found my cloud art ring in my books. Like, and I don't remember ever you giving it to me.

She's like, oh, that's, oh, that is a sign from God. I don't know. That he's just reminding you that he's there. He's reminding you

that he's there. And I'm like, come at me God. Yeah, you want some, you want some of this God. But I found that. And then I also found a pair

of character glasses that I had lost for months and months and months. I couldn't find them. And when I went to LA, and when I came back, there was, and then I found them

in the pocket of- You're experiencing what people experience when they clean. Yeah. They find the things that they've misplaced for the past 10 years.

It's very true. But it just felt like, it's just one of those moments of like, because it was such a specific item from my childhood that I don't ever remember

that I was like, sort of like researching into like more of this idea. You know, there's this like countless stories on the internet sort of about like

seeing someone in a room, you meet them in a room, they say like, they wave hello, you go on with your day, you see them later in the day, they wave hello, and he's just like,

I said hello to you before and they're like, what are you talking about? This is the first time I'm seeing you today. And it's just like, yeah, but I mean, mostly I think it has to do with

like personal, just forgetfulness. I just recently read this book called The Secret History of Consciousness and I have all these like new sort of, new fangled sort of

what it calls like reality magic books coming in which is this idea of how to boost your psychic powers. Which is gonna work. Does the mailman just like some of that? I love that stuff.

Yeah, we'll read them together. We'll do seminars. I feel like the mailman just like delivers the books and then runs away and says, enjoy the books fat boy! Hey fat boy, I got your books and you're the fat boy.

I hate my mailman. Thank you. I hate that fucking bastard. I was sort of reading, have I ever told you guys about the masturbation sigil? No. What's a sigil?

A sigil is like a magical symbol because I was really into Grant Moore. Well, it's still really into Grant Moore. This is all from Ragnar, right? Did Ragnar help you out with this? No, well,

everybody Ragnar is very much into the black arts. Icelandic. Icelandic, yeah. And so, what a masturbation sigil is. Like, I kind of got into like this like whole

like real-time magic and all that. It's like, it doesn't work, but it works. It makes you feel good. It makes you feel good. That's it. Like, it just makes you feel good. Is it like a cock ring?

Here's what you do. Okay. Is you write one sentence of like something that you want. And it's not really, it's not like, I want a car! Something like that.

Like something you want in your life, something you want to change about you. Yeah, I want true unbridled power over women. That's not it either. Get into the porn business. You can do that. You can do that.

No, but I mean like it's using magic. Yeah. That'd be something. I want to control deer as my army. Yeah. That would work nicely. Like a Sam Raney.

Sam Raney. You can't tell anybody about what it is. Of course, because if you did, they'd laugh at you. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what you do is

you write down a sentence. It's just one sentence. And then you make a symbol out of all the letters in the sentence. Just like one unending symbol. And then you stare at it while you masturbate. What?

What? That is not good. I'm going to try that. No, it was great. If I'm masturbating anyway, might as well just make it to like bump up the level of commitment here.

Yeah. And you know what? I got to say, it kind of worked. All right. And whether it just came upon by myself or whether it helped me kind of push over a hump

or something like that. But this was good work. If you were stroking your dick looking at porn, you would have come. You would have just come because you're doing the thing that makes you come.

Yeah. But it's not about coming. It's about getting something else that you want. But you wanted to come and he got to come. Yeah. But that was just a part of it.

He was coming in order to make the magic work. Yeah. So what did you do? The power of the organ. I can't tell you. You can never tell me. No.

It might undo all of the magic. Is that why you're true? Is that why you're white? I had no idea. Hispanic Marcus Parks. Marcos Parques. It's nice. Yeah.

So yeah. But as I was reaching, I basically started, I tried to research this glitch as the matrix thing, as I was saying, and it's mostly garbage because, you know,

it's just an 18-year-old just saying random stories. That sandwich story is pretty real, though. That is pretty crazy. That's pretty crazy. But then I started getting into this idea of reality

versus perception. You know, how you perceive that your reality is based entirely upon your perception. And because of the way the human brain works, your perception is flawed

to begin with. So that mean, like, because your brain is made of a bunch of jelly in fucking floating coop in your fucking bone head, you know what I mean? You're just not going to get

the pure, unsaturated information all the time because sometimes it's going to go and you're just not going to, you know, you're just going to have a bad day that day, you know? Exactly how that situation

ended with Marcus starting that goddamn cymbal. Cymbal. Cymbal. Not cymbal. Cymbal. Cymbal. Cymbal.

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Cymbal. Cymbal. Hong Kong. Oh no! How I wish Marcus would be straight again. Just let him have you. This is my day, Henry. My day. It's like your new birthday. We just celebrate today as your new birthday every day. My gate day. It's the gate Tuesday. That would be nice. I would celebrate that with you. Thank you. Yeah. Because I'm happy with you, whoever you are or whatever you love. Thank you. You too, Henry. Even if I made love to a sandwich or a burrito? Of course. Oh, it's so much easier. Especially if you made love to a sandwich or a burrito. I've already done that.

Easier to fuck a burrito than a sandwich. That's for damn sure. Oh, definitely. Because you just open up the flap. Yeah, crack it. Let's crack it right away. It's great. Just make sure it's not hot. Oh no. Just warm. Let it sit on the windowsill. Let the cool breeze cool down, you fuck burrito. Right before you stick your warm little pinky sticky in there. That's right. That's what I call my penis. Make it a beefy stinky. Beef burrito is the best burrito to fuck. So you're in the matrix. You're talking sandwiches. So there's a bunch of stuff, right? I'm in the matrix. All right. So there's like a couple things. One was a new study came out that said that prior to what they originally thought, they thought that human beings, your brain and processed information,

like your surroundings in one like steady flow, they thought that when you watch everything, that's just like it streams into your head and they like, and so it's like, you know, certain things is stored in your short-term memory and all the rest is like backed up in your hard drive. What they're finding is that now is that your brain actually works more like a stutter start. It works like buffering where I'll be like, pause, like while it catches up in the information it catches, then pause. And so it's like, what they're saying is that like something that it's like severely affects the way we perceive the world because it's like, your brain's constantly in the middle of buffering. So the pause is the glitch.

The pause is the sandwich. Like essentially stuff like that where it's like a problem like that could arise because of the way our brains like just receive information. Right. There's the same thing about like the phenomenon of ball lightning. Ball lightning. Sorry, what? Ball lightning? Yeah. Ball lightning. Ball lightning. Yeah. You've never... Lightning balls. Lightning balls. There's nothing to do with the human testing. No, no, no, no. Yeah, you've never heard of lightning balls, Johnson? Oh, yeah. Lightning balls. What? He could literally throw his balls six feet from his butt. It's pretty amazing. I like them. Pretty amazing. Sharp shooter. He could hit someone with his nut sack from a good three feet. Well, that man could put some

dogs in a bathtub. I'll tell you that. That's great. That's wonderful. So ball lightning. Yeah. Ball lightning is this phenomenon where people like... It explains a lot of like UFO phenomena. It's like why people see UFOs, blah, blah, blah. They could be construed for ball lightning. And a part of it is that they're starting to believe that the brain also is affected by like static electricity and electromagnetic activity, of course, because our brains run on electricity. Like, that's why we could think and talk and fucking jerk off and make sigils to make us not gay anymore. And so the idea is that ball lightning comes specifically from the interference with electromagnetic activity with your brain. And it makes you see lightning in the shape of balls. Big fat balls.

Harrier balls. Big hairy balls. Some balls are harrier than other balls. Orbs. Let's just call them orbs. Orbs, I think, is a much better word. I do like lightning balls. I do too. I do things like that. So it's like this. So reality is built completely upon the subjective nature of two pounds of gelatinous ooze in our heads. The brain, yeah. The brain. So it's like, so everything that we know or believe, every single piece of art, every single like piece of music, every human atrocity, Jeffrey Dahmer used his gelatinous fucking mass in order to build fuck zombies. Fuck zombies. But he was also a great chocolatier at the time. There's bones in the chocolate. Not everybody put bones in the chocolate. Only Dahmer. Dahmer specialty. So that naturally, and then as I was

researching that, it like naturally took me to the world of UFOs. Because now, so there's a lot of belief. So we had a gentleman here a while ago named Jeremy Vanny, who wrote this book. I don't, I know why the aliens don't land. And a part of what he originally discussed was the idea, and I've been reading more and more about this, is that this, that aliens are not, like, they are, they're, they're physical beings, but like what they are is sort of like this idea that they're an interdimensional like type thing is that like, and they're very hard to perceive. They're like, human beings literally cannot perceive them because of the way they exist. They exist on a different level of existence. And so it's like a whole different plane, a whole different plane.

And then every once in a while, like poke through using what some people have postulated, these sort of like oscillations of our brain is that every single time there's a gap in sort of our understanding. That's like a place where an otherworldly event could happen where it's like, and they talk about this, like, you know, like what was going on in the Mothman prophecies, right? It's like when they were talking about the Mothman story, like there was, you know, essentially this whole town is probably being poisoned by a TNT plant. But like as the Mothman was also happening, like when people were seeing the Mothman, they were also seeing these things that they called men in black, which were these men dressed like out of style, like in black suits

that were like old, old looking, with long, long pointy nose, and the noses and they would come in and ask questions about the Mothman and then disappear and be very straight. Hipsters. They just sound like hipsters on a mission, you know? But there's just somewhere in that gap that is like this idea that that's where aliens could exist, do you know what I mean? Like in the very dark corners of our loose understanding of the world, you know, and that they are just people who learn that they can manifest their own destiny. They are probably us. Are the aliens scared when they see us, when they poke through? Do they stutter as well?

And they're like, Holy Lord, Marcus is jacking off! I think we're still gay! I think that aliens are us. I think that the aliens are us and that's a part of what Jeremy was talking about. His book is a little dubious. Yeah, you said there's shit earlier. He said it was a big piece of shitty garbage. It's dubious, I would say. The thing is about that is it's very hard to pin down because we don't have an alien in jail yet. I like one. I just want one for a friend or a teacher. I do a comedy show with one. That would be fun. Be classic.

But where do that take me next? I mean, we're on aliens here. We're talking about a blip in the system. They're coming through. They're watching us all masturbate at any given time. And then I started, because then I was like, because the idea is that aliens, you know, that maybe, you know, they're us when they've learned how to really control hive minds. When they learn how to control what is essentially the collective unconscious. So you think the aliens are coming over here on purpose? Yeah. Are they time travelers?

There's a lot. I mean, there's, you know, I don't know. I don't know what they are. I don't know. I don't know. And that's where they're all dressed up in those nice suits. It's like how people used to dress up to get on airplanes in the 60s and 70s before they became a big fat sweat pant wearing shrub. I just can't wait until like this all makes sense when I'm 70 and I put on an alien costume, get it on a ship and come back in time. You know what I mean? Totally explained. And I'm just, it's just been me the whole time. Yeah. I'm the aliens.

You look like all the aliens. All of them. Aliens. But then I started reading about them. Like, because the idea is like, you know, aliens could be like self-actualized humans. And then I started reading about the secret, which is very funny. The book? The book, the secret. Ah. Isn't the secret just wish for what you want and get it?

Yes. Yes. But my favorite thing about it is the entire book. Yeah. And that whole thing without any masturbation. With no masturbation. No masturbation. How do you expect to get shit done? Yeah. They had to read a whole book. I was done in 10 minutes. Yeah. That's true. God damn it.

10 minutes. Yeah. That's a long time. Well, you know, a long time, the average person on a porn site is 10 to 20. Yeah. He's on the early end. Really? Yeah. Was that special? What's it called? A signal? Sigil. A sigil?

It really just depends on what I'm doing. I mean, like, if I'm between subway cars, I got about a minute to really get it done. Yeah. You can do it. Can you jack off on a subway car real quick like that? I mean, if you have, if you're gonna fucking flip out, then yeah, you have to. That's true. Um, sorry about the secret.

My favorite thing about the secret is, yeah, it's about, like, perception, positive thinking to, like, change your life. But you just manifest what you want. Right. You know, and there's a lot of stuff in that. And I believe I do a lot of self-visualization, but mostly involves what I'm going to eat that night. You know, I get very positive about, about getting like, when I want dumplings,

when I wake up in the morning, I'm getting dumplings. Yeah. Um, and, but my favorite part about it was the health thing. It was like how to lose weight. And one of the, one of the tenants had said was, is do not observe overweight people. Wow. Just seeing, just seeing the image of overweight people will make you think

fat. You guys are fucking me up. You're still skinny as a rail. Well, it's because I don't see either one of you. Are you not looking at us? All I hear is voices. I have no idea what either one of you look like. All I know is that you're both fat. Yeah. I mean, that's true.

Yeah, that's just so weird. If I couldn't see fat people, I could never look at any of my friends in the eye. That's terrifying. Yeah. Because they just have to stare at your chest. I feel like it's also a very good way to get arrested for harassment. Just staring at everybody who is thin and attractive. Someone's got to get these fat people and wait for me.

Yeah. They're getting their fat cells on me. Oh yeah. Oh, what's he doing? Is he putting mayonnaise in his coffee? Oh, better. I can't look at him. I can't tell. Someone get the fat guy out of the tiny coffee shop. His coffee sounds so good.

I don't want to get into it at all. Just slowly drips into your mouth. Oh, I love Kyle. The coffee makes the egg and the oil separate. Make it what it is. That's all mayonnaise is a matter of perception. You know, it's like once you start mixing up eggs and oil, all of a sudden you got delicious, delicious mayonnaise.

Absolutely, man. So much of it. Yeah, yeah. So do you feel like you learned a lot from the secret? Are you more successful? I mean, because you are losing weight, you were saying. I'm losing weight. Is the secret helping?

No, no, no, no, no. I mean, I don't look in the mirror anymore, but that's mostly just so I can visualize somebody else. That's just how I got my confidence. Yeah, you know, if I was always looking in the mirror, I get pretty sad, you know? In terms of like, got tiny eyes, you know? Sure.

Thin and hair. And a weird little nose there. It's weird. I'm a weird looking guy. I'm bizarre now. I don't even know how you- Not classically handsome. Your ears, your earlobes don't really,

I mean, they just connect directly to your head. There's some people who have that, though. That's different. I heard that that's a sign of people who have a, honestly, I've heard that's a sign of people who have a higher psychic ability. Yeah. Ah!

That's me. That's me, baby! I'm going to make myself a psychic this week. Absolutely. I like it. And so in the very end, so it's like, where were we at time was? We're at about 21 minutes. Okay.

I mean, I just, I love it. So, Philip K. Dick. Yeah, okay, yeah. So, Philip K. Dick. So, Philip K. Dick's like my favorite author in the face of the planet. And when he deals with a lot of time, when it comes to, he, a lot of his books have to deal with sort of the,

the tenuous nature of reality and how it has a deal with, you know, like your perception and how, like, no one knows what's real and stuff like that. Must have been tough going through life. Phil Dick. Yeah. It's a sad name. Well, it's like, we had a very, me and him, like, honestly,

because what ended up really attaching me to him is that we kind of had a very similar experience, but mine was less extreme because I'm normal now. And he never went back normal. So, what happened? So, he, in 1974, so it's like, he's been a writer of sci-fi, and now, at this point, for about 30 years. He, you know, like, I think-

What are most famous books? Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, which was made in a Blade Runner? Yeah. And then, you know, Man in the High Castle, and then Flow My Tears of Policeman said, and Minority Report. He wrote the short story of Minority Report.

A scanner darkly. A scanner darkly. Oh, wow, like everything. Yeah. A bunch of shit. And, you know- Maybe the best sci-fi author of all time. He's probably the best, and he's like my favorite author.

Yeah. I, I'm obsessed with him. Hollywood has ruined most of his books. That's a very good sign. Everything except Blade Runner. Yep, pretty much. Blade Runner's so fucking good. I like the movie, A Scanner Darkly.

You know, I don't think I saw it. It's good. It's trippy. Oh, check it out. It's a little old. Yeah. So, in 1974, he had an experience where he, he was visited by what he said was an ultimate,

rational mind, a system called Valles, that came to him in the form of a- So, in all of his books, like normally there's some dark-haired woman that tells the protagonist that his life isn't real. And it all kind of goes back and forth. So, what happened was- He looks like Sean Young.

Like, essentially. Yes. Very hot. A hot, thin, young woman, right? Yeah. He answers his door. There's a Christian at the door. Beautiful, hot, long, dark-haired woman.

A beam of light came off the, like from the sun, bounced off of her Christian's fish symbol, right, on her necklace. And turned into a pink ray of information that shot him in the head, that told him, that basically showed him that time is not real, and that his books existed in an alternate universe

that were all entirely real. And that what he was doing with certain- Hollywood. But that, like, certain books, like Man in the High Castle and Flow My Tears of Placement said, were direct translations from alternate universes that exist that, that was a part of it.

And they were, like, successful books. Like, can our podcast exist there? Yes. Yeah, yes. Yeah. So, I'll just pretend we- We're a podcast in a Philip K. Dick world. Oh, great.

Yeah, that's great. God, I wish that was true. Oh, man. Make it true. Wish it was true. But so, he began to experience- Masterbation Central. You can make it happen.

I'm gonna do this later. I'm literally gonna do this later. Yes. Do you have a website on that? Yeah, if you look up Masterbation Central, you can find this. It's only used for Masterbation? Well, there's a whole ton of sigils.

There's a lot. I mean, this is just one very small part of it. Just call Ragnar. Ask him. I'll get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ask him, also ask him about his Superman thing. It's pretty interesting.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty sweet. Yeah, Ragnar's got some great stories. Yeah. But it's like, but the idea is, so, he began to experience, like, very strange phenomenon of, like, history. Like, basically seeing images from history coinciding

with his existence. He started seeing a double of himself in ancient Roman times that were supposed to exist at the same exact time. So it's like, he suffered a very severe break in reality and it kept going. And basically, he spent the rest of his life crusading that it was real.

And when, like, of course, no one specifically believed him. Sounds similar to Heaven's Gate guy, to some degree. Yes, it's kind of similar. But after his death, what they found is that he wrote this 1,500-page journal called the Exegesis, or Exegis, maybe. Exegis. And so I bought it, too.

They just made it novelized. They just novelized it because they never, they were never going to release it. So was it supposed to be released? I mean, his family kind of found the right guy, Jonathan Lethem, to sort of, like, edit it and look at it. Oh, I see, yeah. And so what it is, it's this 1,500-page,

like, explanation of what his problem was. And then he died of a brain aneurysm. Oh, pretty short after he finished it. It's a major problem right there. Yeah, that's a major problem, yeah. But I'm very excited. I'm going to get into it. I just think that it's just, you just have someone

who's, like, so brilliant and very together and very rational. That's what he kind of was his whole life. You know, it's like he was, like, so an anti-religion protester. He was, like, an anti-war protester for, like, years and years and years. He was a huge part of the San Francisco

kind of culture, like, movement. And, like, the 50s. He was a wonderful man. Yeah, he was a, he's a genius. So how old was he when the sunbeam hit the fish? It was in 74. He was born in 1928, so he was 46. Oh, okay, so he was a pretty good old man.

Yes. Middle-aged fellow when that all happened. He was a full-on, like, adult when that happened. Maybe kind of a midlife crisis situation. I mean, it's better than buying a Corvette and a bunch of prostitutes, divorcing your wife and, you know, abandoning the kids. No, he was pretty genuinely frightened

of what happened to him. And he was pretty concerned. Is there any, like, medical science that discusses, like, what may have happened to him from, like, their perspective? Maybe he had, like, a mini-stroke or something? No, there's a lot of, I mean, like, that's the thing. They said there was a fucking gigantic brain aneurysm

living in the center of his head. So maybe that, and here's a fact about the religious experience that he had. He was recovering from the effects of sodium pentothal administered for the extraction of an impact of wisdom tooth. But he was also on, ripped on speed for the whole life. But the thing is, is that, I mean,

I had a similar experience when I was on mushrooms in college, where it's just like I, we had drank a very, a very strong batch of mushroom tea. Ooh, I like that. And I laid down with my head between two speakers while we listened to Abbey Road, you know. Like, it was fun. Yeah, it was fun.

It was fun, college. Thanks, mom and dad. But I experienced an entity that came to me in one of the heaviest trips of my life that explained to me that he came to me in a form in which I could understand, which was in the form of. Like an EMT just like slapping you in the face. Like, wake up, wake up, man.

But he came to me in the form of the dude from the Big Lebowski. Oh, wow. And then he said to me that, you know, there was stuff that he's like, do you wanna see something crazy? Do you wanna see what's really going on? You have to calm down for me to do that.

So I have to like sit and I had to like control my breathing. And then he took me to this place that he said was like, the land, like sort of like what he called heaven, which it was really just like sort of where 3D information exists. And we're all, that we all like are essentially floating in a pile of goop. And that, you know, that information is like,

what every human brain is, is an operating system. And that what the life is, is like the program that runs on our operating. So like programs that run. And that like what you, you know, it's just one of the, it's just one of the, that's a great fucking trip. It's just a fucking crazy trip. Yeah.

I know when I came back, but it's like, it felt really genuine. And then I felt like that thing even sort of informed a big chunk of my life, like afterwards. So it's like, I think that there's a lot to be said from these sorts of experiences about how like sometimes I think it's really good. You get sort of bumped out of your own little world.

We're very narcissistic. Like when we have to do what we do, you know, like right in comedy all the time, it's like we're up our own assholes 24 seven. Eating our own assholes. And so it's like, it's really nice to have a, have like little events and bump you out of it and make you think like, that's why I watch Cosmos.

Carl Sagan's Cosmos. Oh yeah. It makes me feel good. Gotta snap out of your own mind sometime. Yeah. Snap out of your own ass. And not with, and like, and not with masturbation. Right.

Like not with masturbation. Maybe not. I mean, you have to have weed. You can't jack off when it comes to mushrooms. But weed is just in, I mean, like how would you smile? With that without weed? I don't know. Right.

What do people do to smile? How would the cinema survive? I don't know. Well, that's awesome stuff. That's Josh and Steph. Yeah, I mean, it was kind of a garbled, but I think garbled is a subject. Yeah.

It is gonna be garbled. There was no way we could have a coherent episode, a cohesive episode on this bullshit. It's fun though. It's real fun. We all need to pop mushrooms at the beginning. And then as soon as they start to kick in, talk for five minutes, and then immediately shut off

all of these fucking lights and the microphones. And then we just have a great old time naked. Can we do that? Yeah, we can do that right now. Wait, I don't have any mushrooms. God damn it. And I gotta take a shit anyway. I always wish I had fucking, what is it?

Class A drugs? Yeah, felony. Yeah, felony. Major felony, go to prison. No, no, no, no, no. They can't get me, but then you're like, but what about fucking being groovy? That's what I say. I don't know if that's a defense.

That's what I'm saying. I'm a judge, I was just about to be a groovy. I'm gonna see my lawyer tomorrow. I'll ask him if that's a defense that we can do. I'll ask him, Paul, he's like, hey, is being groovy a defense in New York state? You can try it, man. Yeah, you can feel like you're doing it, man.

Let's try that. Look at these pics. All right, that's the program. Thank you for listening, everybody. For Henry Zabrowski, Marcus Parks, and Ben Kissle. Magustylation. Magustylation. I hope you have an out-of-body experience

that makes you a better person. Oh, yeah. Man, I'm reeling from that porn experience.