Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 362: Israel Keyes Part I - The Nu Metal Serial Killer

Episode Date: April 27, 2019

On the first of our two part series, we cover modern heavy hitter and bargain-bin BTK Israel Keyes through his Fundamentalist Christian upbringing, the cross-country murder sprees that made him famous, and his status as having the worst laugh in the world. 

There's no place to escape to this is the last time on the left That's when the cannibalism started I'm ready It is one of those episodes where I really feel like I have to lose my throat why is that I don't know my throat's feeling tight Have we started the episode? Is this the beginning so big how big a new throat be every it can be four quarters big Four quarters why I was watching a lot of the FBI interrogation footage of Israel keys, right? There's about six hours of it and it is fucking

Boring, huh? There's quite a bit of it. That's very boring but the one of it that I thought was interesting is that the very beginning of all of the videos is like they just let the Camera roll uh-huh while hit this piece of shit is sitting and waiting for them to come in sure and I was like I want to get in the head of a serial killer I want to see what it's like because this is like a fly in the wall We'll never see this kind of shit before you never see something like this before in your normal time and and just watch of Watch a serial killer sit in ten minutes of pure Silence right sit and watch this video and it is ten full

Real-time mix sure just sitting and I was like, okay, we're this one. This is where I'm gonna unlock the keys This is where I'm gonna lock the personality And then it cuts him is gone Where's my coffee? Well, you need this coffee. Hey, what's up everyone? This is the last podcast on the left I am Ben Kissel. I'm with Marcus Parks in beautiful, New York City, and you know who else is joining us It smells like bologna. Oh, that's fun. We're having fun here. You're making fun of my my Lou Pearlman The Lou Pearlman cologne or the Michael Jordan cologne. What was better?

Remember that Michael Jordan cologne. Mm-hmm. It was all I think it was sweat scented Yeah, it was like sweat and pig leather Of course, we have Henry Zabrowski with us. He's the bologna man. Good work No, all right Well, we're gonna talk about a dude who is an ultimate failure today for some reason the fans have really been wanting this guy and I don't fully know why I guess we'll get into it I think this is a this is not a fan service episode We've heard this piece of shit's name so often over the last couple years. We thought why don't we get into this rat face?

Yeah, why not? So we're gonna cover this dude. It's relatively recent history. Yeah, his name is Israel keys I'll tell you what what watching those the FBI interrogation videos. I learned nothing nothing All right, and of course, I do have to clarify Israel keys. No relation to Allen keys We want to make sure we just want to make sure that that is clear. Well, Israel keys was a nomadic serial killer from Washington State and Alaska who between possibly 1996 and definitely 2012 killed at least four people through shooting stabbing or strangulation although the FBI believes the body count is more like 11 at the very least He's also a four-eyed tiny chin but sucking nerd

Who is somewhere between Robert Hansen and BTK, which to me means he's a diaper boy that needs to be thrown in the trip No reason to demean the butt suckers out there. Nothing wrong with that Well keys was actually a serial killer fanboy from a young age worshiping Ted Bundy in particular However, it wasn't necessarily Bundy's killing methods that keys admired rather. It was Bundy's ability to live a double life Hmm, but the thing was some people did suspect Ted Bundy before he was caught Keys is actually more like Dennis Rader and that absolutely nobody suspected him as keys was a father of one who owned a successful Contracting business in Anchorage. He built a jungle gym once And as we learned for about contractors when covering John Wayne Gacy, they can do no wrong

You know, if you tell me you have a successful contracting business, are you the next president? Like wow? If you can't trust someone in construction Why are there so many lies in construction? They build massive thing. Maybe that's the double life. Yeah, they build things we can all reside in but it's all built on lies But interestingly even though it could be said that Israel keys has much more in common with BTK in both method and lifestyle Keys said he wasn't a fan of Dennis Rader because in his opinion BTK was quote a wimp for Apologizing for his crimes. I don't know if I could I don't I didn't know that I could have the same amount of disdain Come out of me for a person that BTK

Originally made me feel that I am now attaching to Israel keys Israel keys is almost in a fucked-up way making me defend BTK Get to Israel keys sudden demise and how that to me makes him a weak weak Right versus BTK who actually saw his bulls are through the end. I'm sitting here. I'm in BTK's corner now This guy must be pretty bad Regardless Israel keys was essentially a no-manic Dennis Rader without the bondage or need for recognition He like BTK would likely have never been caught if he hadn't communicated with the world But is it a part of being a serial killer and wanting to be a serial killer getting the recognition?

This is what we'll get into this debate. Of course. Yeah, we will although I don't know if that's always the case you look at the the east side What was it the the east area or east area rapist and original night stalker? Yeah, the original night sucker. He didn't seem too happy No with the press I think he would have been just fine if the DNA never came back and and pinned him down But Israel keys did want it and we see why he did secretly upon secretly secretly did want it because that's why he got arrested in the First fucking place. Well the way in which he was captured certainly wasn't as dumb as BTK's floppy disk fiasco Israel keys contacted the family of one of his victims not as a way to join the annals of serial killer history

But to increase the level of adrenaline See Israel keys was not your psychotic spree killer nor was he killing for company or profit exclusively Israel keys again like BTK killed simply because he liked it He was controlled meticulous and until the end disciplined but while people like Nancy Grace like to play up keys as a sophisticated monster inflating the body count into the 30s 40s or even 50s to make him seem like more than what he really is we think keys could Best be described as the new metal serial killer I put it that way he is I'd see it. He's the equivalent of serial killers to a well

Razored chin strap here Interesting. So what are we talking here when we say new metal? Who's coming up? We got God smack Uh-huh. Is that on the list? Oh, definitely. Well for those of you who missed the late 90s and early 2000. I'm sorry Because that was really the height of culture You shouldn't be listening to this show if you know those time periods, right? I have if I have now I find a ten Bud lights deep Uh-huh, I will talk to anyone about the 90s as the greatest decade that ever existed You travel back to the 90s. You really do. Well new metal spelled in you. Thank you for clarifying

It was a particularly embarrassing phase of rock music best exemplified by bands like corn mud vein Limp biscuit pop a roach evanescence and the worst one Lincoln Park. Can we all agree? That's the worst one Agree, that's the word. They're easily though Lincoln Park was the band that made me go look at new metal and go wait a minute What am I doing to myself? What am I listening to? I'm gonna have to put on my defense cap What because I don't think corn is bad. No, I love course albums are very good I'm just not gonna lump them in with Lincoln Park corn is enjoyable. I don't know if I will call them good This is where we agree, but it's never a defense cap in in the UK, which you'll see lawyers wear wigs Did I put on the wig? Well both extremely aggressive and horribly whiny at the same time

Which is fucking Israel keys to a fucking tea up new metal was the music of choice for both rebellious Overly emotional dickhead kids like myself and dead-eyed overzealous evangelical alcoholic Atheist who never matured past the age of 15 like Israel keys Israel keys is the most uh, you're not my dad of serial killers that I've ever seen In particular keys was a huge fan of the more theatrical new metal bands like coal chamber and slipknot I love slipknot. Yeah, I love slipknot too, but they you gotta admit both bands share a certain pouty rage Mm-hmm, and I will admit. Yes. I still listen to slipknot from time to time Yeah, that's the funniest thing about metal

I got to go see a metal show recently and when they put on their masks They really are different people. Mm-hmm, but the the dressing room it just looks like a sketch group It just looks like there and then like before they before they put on the mask before they get really metal They are just really sensitive people trying to watch their carbs But when they put on the mask they I remember I saw some interview with the lead singer of slipknot and I guess he was the Basis or the tambourine player? I think they have an evil tambourine player. Yeah, the guy who least who's on the fucking is like these are the blood marimbas But it was the main leader guy was in his like spike mask or whatever and he was like

You don't understand the dark veins of slipknot But then the evil tambourine player guy was doing the thing where he was like like from the movie the intruders The strangers where he was coming up to the camera and doing the head to the side Every new metal guitarist all had the head tilt from side to side. I don't know why they guess it made him look cray No, it's because they it's because one of their mothers had a Maltese and they realized every time the Maltese is like The Maltese gets a trait and of course they want a trait And I also do love that the lead singer of slipknot apparently sounds is like a really goth macho man Randy Savage Which is pretty cool. Yeah, I but I do appreciate the costumes in the page. I love a show

I love the sets. I know but that's where Alice Cooper and all the rest Oh, they kind of had a sense of humor with it or slipknot. I think they're starting to get it a little bit I think they had a son. I saw him back in Lubbock in like 99 2000 some are around there and they were fantastic. All right call chamber broke up on stage in Lubbock after one Dude hit the other with a guitar and the guy got hit went up to the microphone He went to the microphone and said, this is the last cold chamber show ever I'm sorry guys. I got to end uncle corner We cannot talk about not these fans can we just get back to Israel days

So the point is well, I'm of course not saying the Israel keys was an anyway inspired or driven by these bands He certainly had that sullen know-it-all fuck the world mentality that made new metal so attractive to teenagers like myself in the late 90s, he just thought he was so much smarter than everybody else and that he was this fucking Evil genius that could he was playing everybody against each other when when it comes down to it There's a lot that could be said for having a fuck ton of patience for when patience is the thing that makes you horny Weird now I will admit that the total and complete randomness of the crimes of Israel keys could certainly send a shiver down your spine Absolutely, and the anybody that is the type of the reason why I think that we also have a knee-jerk reaction of people like Israel keys

And to be tk is because of the the planning aspect of their crimes and the idea that they sit and Case your house. Mm-hmm. That is an all-of-true crime. I'm certain that's probably one of the scariest things Oh, yeah, is that the idea that someone with the with the sort of diabolical patience of like BTK who could break into your home? Hide in your bedroom closet and wait all night until you go to sleep. That's fucking bone-chilling Yeah, that's what Ramirez used to do. That's why every 15 minutes step out your front door and just say get get out of here Get out of here If someone is there they will be shook I always do that my part of the complex loves it, but they also know I'm Reformer. Yeah, of course, you're a big-time changer. Yeah

Well meticulously planning each murder and targeting people at campgrounds and isolated houses around the country Keys was the worst-case scenario that pops into your head when you're in a remote location And we're not minimizing the immeasurable amount of pain and suffering that keys inflicted on his victims and their families But at the end of the day while is your keys isn't indeed fascinating. He's more of a bargain been BTK than a criminal mastermind Shots fired. My god. There is something because he's not the fucking riddler No, okay. He is not stealing the hope diamond from this Smithsonian. He's not a criminal mastermind That requires knowing many people's schedules and you got a hack thing BR helmet you got to get a surveillance fan

You got to get a tiny Asian guy they can fit through the fucking like that the ventilation system in order to get into the safe You got to get a facial scar That takes two years in a beauty school Get smoke grenades and see the lasers Stuff and being a mastermind. He just has patience and I think it's a part of the reason why we get the constant debate of like Stuff like there's no way humans built the pyramids and all that kind of shit But if you have bodies and time yeah to throw at this shit and generations You could figure out how to build these huge of these huge things perseverance is there's a lot to be said for it

Yeah, because that's what Israel keys had where he could sit and sit and sit and Plot out his time. That doesn't make you smart. No, it just makes you Because especially if it's the thing that's extending your pleasure You shouldn't even get an award for the thing that is the thing that makes you pop harder when you do the murder Bodies and time an interesting assessment of slavery Challenged down what they're saying that a lot of the pyramids are being they were actually built by craftsmen that there was a there was Many talented Because that's gonna get us to a whole nother bunch of trouble

But before we get into the story of Israel keys, let's acknowledge our main source today devil in the darkness by J.T. Hunter, which is it's a pretty standard true crime paper back But I would recommend it if you want to know more about the investigation and there's also so many documentaries Oh, I watched the oxygen series and watch all this up an oxygen series and may as well just be like ladies Are you afraid? Let's start now. Hey ladies wake up. Were you about to fall asleep in a hotel room? Don't fall asleep because the maids trying to kill you Whoa, that's not good paranoia

Oh, I know they're scary. Yeah, so without further ado, let's get into the story of Israel keys Born on January 7th 1979 in Richmond, Utah Israel keys was the child of Heidi Hawkinson and John keys while his father seems to be a total non-innity His mother naturally played a huge role in his development lame daddies really do end up ruining things Yeah, and they can it's also sad to be born in Richmond when everyone's like, oh Virginia. I love it. They're like Utah No, it's Richmond to Utah. I'm sorry Well, while you might think it's the same old story of abuse that we've heard so many times before the way that Heidi

Influenced keys was through her attraction to the more cult-like religions See when Israel was born his parents were Mormons living in Utah But pretty soon after that they started drifting over to a more fundamentalist way of thinking Naming their subsequent children Isaac charity Hosanna and Sunshine oh Where does sunshine come in? Is that a weird one? Yeah?

Sunshine if your name sunshine a lot of times you're just end up being a person that's got like a butt plug in at all times If you want to it's not the anticle the pickle if you got you but absolutely have fun with it By the time Israel was five or so his family chose an off-the-grid lifestyle and moved to a small cabin with no Electricity outside of Coalville, Washington to join a fundamentalist Christian identity movement church known as the Ark Now know if you don't know what Christian identity is a part of the Christian identity is the idea that Jewish people are not really Jewish people that actually white people are Jewish people The white people are the church are chosen by God. Yeah, buddy. I don't know I'm not telling anyone to isolate that footage to be used against you later taken out of context. It's just fine

Oh, so they had this whole thing about I was reading about Christian identity and they have this whole thing called serpent seed Have you thought about this the dual seed theory? We're just this this whole like was one of the Gnostic Bibles had a whole side story where Eve actually was fucked by the snake Huh, and that that baby was cane Yeah, slid out of her and that's where Jewish people come from which is where it takes the right turn We're like this stop being metal about a sentence ago. It seems a little anti-semitic Cane's a serpent kid No, it's like a whole thing about the serpent seed is the other side of stuff. It's all made up. Yeah Yeah, sons of Cain have heard quite a bit. Yeah, interesting

Well, although the Ark now has the softer name of our place fellowship church The Ark believes that European whites are actually God's chosen ones not the Jews citing Old Testament scripture as prophecy They think that it's Americans the British and Western Europeans that are the real chosen people in fact This is what their website says quote the Jewish Papers today. Maybe great folks It's just that they're not the true descendants of ancient Israel. Can they really be this anti-semitic they named their kid Israel? Yeah, it's weird. I don't understand though. This is working out. Oh, they're reclaiming it for white people Yeah, and Israel is not Israel Israel is America See, so God is just like I need a bunch of people with horrible teeth and crackly bones up here

So we're going to Europe. It started with this other British I think it's called British identity was something like that where it was the this group of British Christian preachers sort of thing being like but they were I think it was they were pro-Jewish. They're like, we love the Jews We love their energy. We love their ideas. We love the Tony hats. We love y'all But they were like, but you're not really Jews British people are but then they ran with it in America and twisted it Into an anti-semitic thing. Well, the other thing is just weirdly. It's not pro-semitic. It's just very Strange. All right, sounds kind of odd. Yeah, and it's not that big of a jump for Mormonism Because you know Mormons believe that America is the promised land and that Jesus came to America way back when and the Garden of Eden

Is actually somewhere in Missouri, of course and that you know native It's very they went from being anti-native American to being anti-Jewish. Okay. Yeah, why did the jump? They just felt like it. They get bored. They want to rebel. Well, they get bored and his mother was not they I think one of the family friends said that she switched religions like she was playing musical chairs Going from one to the next to the next and the next but it was always the ones with the cult-like mentality I see what's so sad about musical chairs is the chairs actually don't make music. It's the people No, the music is made music humans are not singing and dancing No, they don't sing and dance because you have to have because if that that what my mom used to sing

Well, she essentially takes the role of a stereo. Yes, exactly. Oh, so she just go like I don't want to you can have a She's too fat for me. Hey, she's too fat for me. Hey, she's too fat for me And then you all But was she playing the game too? No Well, while the Jewish people of today may be great folks sounds a little milk toast when compared to a lot of other Christian identity Rhetoric, that's because it's been greatly toned down from what they were spouting back in the 90s See this was the community that produced Chevy and Shane Kehoe who grew up just half a mile down the road from Israel keys in 1995 the virulently white supremacist Chevy Kehoe murdered a family of three and dumped them in a swamp

But I'll say what you want about the Chevy Kehoe, but that four-wheel drive is incredible if you're going off road really really powerful So that's why he was named Chevy because his dad was super into Chevrolet. That's true That's where we bred you Made you and that's Chevy right there and that's why your brother's named Dodge Dart I do like a dodge dart. It's cool car But it's interesting because you want to say like well, yes He was he was violently racist, but then he was born in a cult So that's got nothing to do with the murders the that happened later on the Kehoe brothers also are in there

So insert being the same thing we found about Timothy McVeigh. It seems to me and I may be out of line here that this pro-white Nationally shit might make people pretty aggressive hashtag brave. You said it you said it Yeah, and speaking of Timothy McVeigh if the name Kehoe sounds familiar to listeners That's because the Kehoe brothers were some time residents of Elohim City Which had quite a few connections to the Oklahoma City bombings which you can hear more about on our Oklahoma City series I'm certain that none of this has anything to do with each other though. Not the the weird stripes of hate in this country Certainly does constantly breed chaos and mayhem that then breeds more and more chaos and mayhem deep into the future until The entire country sings to the ocean. Yeah, yeah, well, that's possible

Yeah, but even though Keese admittedly did not hold white supremacist views He'd like the Kehoe brothers was homeschooled now it goes without saying that most homeschool kids don't become psychopaths Oh, yeah, of course But when it came to a kid like Israel Keese the lack of socialization Certainly had an impact see we're in the camp that both nature and nurture play a role in the development of most serial killers But in rare cases such as Israel Keese or Dennis Rader Nature is a much bigger part of the equation than nurture. See I was homeschooled for two years And I had a wonderful time with my mother. We would go to Pigley Wiggly go to Fazzoli's

I think it was actually one of the more better learning experiences I ever had. It's not like you didn't go to school You just like to go eat at restaurants. Yeah, my mom would let me sleep until noon and yeah, you know So nothing's changed. Did you uh, didn't you breastfeed until you were like seven? No, but I was able to breastfeed when I was a baby unlike you I had lips that work. I thought you breastfed for like a long time You make up so many stories about Marcus and I I'm constantly revising you You just make shit up

I don't remember you are making that up No, I remember you saying a joke about me See me like you knew that you was too old for you to breastfeed because you you could stand and do it in the kitchen You just put Marcus and I in all of the stories that you hear and then you just Hey, man, at least you're a part of my memories Yeah, well, no, no matter how long been breastfed I did not breastfeed for too long I barely breastfed at all

Fly from your grave Fly from your grave And guys like Israel Keys and Dennis Rader when they're already predisposed to murder and they're isolated in their childhood Their detachment from humanity only grows They certainly don't get taught that that your actions have instant reverberations with human beings Mm-hmm And when you have that white supremacist thing going on as well You're already taught that there are people in this world that are lesser than well

That's the whole they say beasts I think that was the part of the thing they took for the Bible was that Adam and Eve They are the only two they were true They were white people and that they were the ones that raised out of the what they call like the beasts of the jungle Whatever it was, which was that they twisted into that meant everybody else that wasn't white So you create this idea immediately you had the seed planted like you're already Weirdly in a an emotionless realm as a boy and then you have a seed planted saying you're Superior to other human beings right right you're superior to other human beings

And there are other human beings that are worth less than you and not just worth less than you but worth nothing Okay, and it's not like his victims were non-white I think all of his victims were white actually, but he still had this thought that you know some people are worth less Yes, and I'm worth more. All right As far as we know Israel keys didn't necessarily have a bad childhood just a somewhat Erratic one just like millions of other people but like many other killers Israel showed signs of what he would become at a young age See Israel was fond of carrying around a handgun wherever he went from the age of 14 And along with the buddy of his they'd burglarized houses, although they never hurt anyone as far as we know

But it seemed like the way Israel keys painted it said he was like the leader Which is we saw you know with Eric Harris and Dylan Kleebold and these kinds of like and I mean as a kid With when you run around in a group of kids like doing weird shit It's like you know we've got a little bit of vandalism and shit as a little kid There was always one kid that was like the leader of the group Yeah, that was really getting the kicks and that's what Israel did and like forced other people along with his games And you know of course when you're doing home burglaries Do you want to be in a white supremacist neighborhood because what do white supremacists all have so much money?

What is he stealing beef jerky from these people what's going on how many swatches like dinner plates do we have? Exactly, well Israel and his friends had a falling out the day that Israel killed the cat Oh, Israel's sister had a cat that was always getting into the trash And Israel told her that if that cat got in the trash one more time, he'd kill it I'm telling you when they can and can't and actually you know because cancer really just like rats So get cackets in the garbage one more time. I'm gonna treat it like a rat. Okay, and I'm gonna get rid of it Very annoying for a master race You don't sound so master-ish to me. No, of course the cat got to the trash. Oh

So Israel took the cat up into the woods with his friend along with one of his other sisters and tied the cat to a tree with a Length of bungee cord then he brought out his 22 revolver and shot the cat in the stomach Laughing and laughing as the cat struggled against the cold The worst I think that that I don't know if you notice that if anybody else sits and watch the hours of footage of Israel keys His Nervous reaction laugh to and laughing in his own jokes. I'm a comedian. I laugh at my own jokes all the time But I put comedian on my taxes. Okay, just like unfortunately

This is what I am you're you're saddled with it You and our listeners are saddled with this fucking fate No, I know laughs and every single fucking thing he says and he does one of the worst laughs I've ever heard and it's just straight up like Makes me laugh when you do Because it is kind of funny. All right, this guy sounds he's really adding up to be one of the biggest pieces of shit We've covered so far. Oh, yeah, his friend was so disgusted. He threw up Oh, and after that nobody wanted to go into the woods with Izzy anymore

Good time. That's cool. I just want to kill a cat with you again. It was horrible. You mean have a good time You're laughing your laugh is horrible. What are you talking about? I'm not laughing Then it's 17 Israel began to rebel declaring himself an atheist to his fundamentalist parents Yeah, you can't tell me what to believe that I really it's strange right because everything every single thing He's doing is some sort of like weird Protests against society. Oh, yeah, according to Israel's future wife Israel's parents used religion like a weapon using Bible passages to justify their judgmental nature Mm-hmm, and it seems that the only wacky thing that Israel actually inherited from his mother was a staunch

Opposition to vaccines. Oh brilliant. Thank you for measles everyone It's so nice to have another measles outbreak. You know just the other day I was like what a what would it feel like to be on the Oregon Trail? He's like, you know what? I want to make a comeback Polio, yeah, let's get polio in there. Yeah, make it all the old old old old guys back and have these But it's viruses good Lord That was fantastic to get a letter in the mail the other day Letting Carolina know that she had been exposed to measles at the doctor's office a couple weeks ago Thank You non-vaxxers you guys are so smart so cool

Oh, but at any rate Israel's parents kicked him out of the house and soon after they kicked him out They moved to Maine and joined an Amish community They'll just take anybody yeah Just take anybody and that I mean and they went to a community after community after that But they tried out the Amish thing for a while. Oh my goodness a rough jump man Yeah, you go straight to no buttons Yeah, no zippers no buttons no zippers to go from zippers to no zippers is such a hard transition zippers No, no zippers Amish people don't have zippers. They're too exciting. Yeah, they have the word zippin them. Oh

That's true. I like the Amish though. I would be I want to go on an Amish vacation for a weekend. You can't mean I just want to go Do stuff you can't work I'm not gonna be actually there to do any work. They will I'm just I'm just doing like like Colonial Williamsburg You don't actually have to cobble a shoe. I tell you what you're no good English. Yeah, look at your your as big as that Hold his hind feet. Oh, I see that is equal. Let's say we milk him Oh, you'll need to be roasted by all these guys and floppy hats all day That's gonna mean man Around the time the Israel was kicked out of the house was when he might have committed his first murder

As we set up top only four of Israel keys murders have been confirmed as Israel only gave up so much during his confession Hmm and this murder Israel never mentioned at all But the timing of it certainly makes him the strongest suspect around on May 3rd 1996 a 12-year-old special Olympics champion who competed in the prosthetics division disappeared after leaving her house Her prosthetic legs were found a month later at the mouth of the Colville River But her body would not be found for another two weeks when a group of children came across her skeletal remains in a wooded area Which is a horrible story for us, but that was a cool moment for those kids I know I do understand we're hinders coming for us

But it's one of those things that I think you think would be cool But in reality, it's just that you know that you're stock nightmare for the rest of your life I don't know as a as a boy. I had less emotions as a boy How exciting would that have been on a day trip for school? And it just been like a stupid park Like I do to wait was that foot What was in 1996 the Israel keys just 18 at the time was living just outside of Colville, Washington Then about a year or two after that keys admitted to raping a teenage girl who had been tubing down the Deschutes River near Oregon

Well keys claim that this was actually his first violent sexual act But as we know with killers like Ted Bundy and Richard Ramirez their first victims are oftentimes children and usually these guys Don't admit to those first crimes or at the very least aren't as proud of them So it's possible that the 12 year old girl came first I think it's interesting because it's true. They a lot of times they're connected to some crime That's pretty despicable at a young age of a murder of a specifically a very young person Which is when you're 18 you're looking for whatever is the thing you can dominate as fast as humanly possible And you can dominate a child pretty easily especially when it's just a child like a kid essentially you are you you can do

But the way Israel keys talks about himself and the way Ted Bundy would talk about his arm But Israel keys being like I birthed my second half in 2001 and I'll tell you what nobody's known a single thing about me since then Which is what he says right the idea that no one knew him So there's something about until they're ready to state This was actually the beginning of my serial killer career and nothing else to them counts up until then because it wasn't until they Consciously decided because up until then they were just sort of beholden to these weird swinging impulses that they couldn't figure out if they wanted a controller Mm-hmm, but either way about a year later in 1998 keys enlisted in the army and served as a specialist in alpha company first battalion Fifth Infantry spending much of his time either stationed at Fort Lewis in Washington or Fort Hood in Texas

No, you can't deny that yeah, you could see him intimidating McVeigh really enjoying some bad company by bad company on bad company Absolutely, I'm not sure if they would be friends or arch enemies That's kind of the weird thing about people like this about dickheads Yeah, sometimes dickheads really love each other and sometimes dickheads become just mortal fucking enemies Sorry, they're noodles and there can only be one alpha dog in a pack Like a lot of these guys keys his time in the military was completely uneventful But strangely keys actually had some pretty anti-american beliefs because he took rage against the machine way too seriously So he joined the army to piss people off and then he got mad at people in the army in order to piss off the army

Yeah, well nothing says taking rage against the machine so literally that you join the machine It really doesn't make a lot of sense Fuck you rage against machine. You can't tell me what to do. I'm gonna dance with the machine Yeah, I'm gonna get screamed at by a drill sergeant every day of my life because fuck you Don't tell me what to do. Well, the only reason why I joined the army was actually I mean is just to piss off his parents My dad did the same thing. Yeah, that's nice. No kidding. Yeah I'm sure that keys was probably all about having the chance to kill another person just like Timothy McVeigh But see now this was 1998

Weren't a whole lot of combat zones available for a rank and file soldier Yeah, you just have to go like guard Bill Clinton on his way to McDonald's. Mm-hmm But while stationed at Fort Lewis keys decided to join a local singles chat line Attached to the want ads of the of the Tacoma news tribune. Hi. Are you a sexy simple man? Who loves corn? Then you'll love me. My name's Tanya, and I'm made out of corn I do like Tanya Well the way the chat line worked was that a person would leave a greeting that others could listen to then

The people who listened to your greeting would leave a message in your inbox if they were interested Hey, what's going on names Israel like the white country? I love slipknot getting laid, and I love skateboards And that's my laugh which accompanies me everywhere I go Hey Israel trucker Steve here saw you listen to your voicemail really interested in you You want to meet me over at the truck stop? Okay, you rough-sounding woman. I can't wait to stab your guts with my love pencil But Israel had fucked up his message Is it after the beep

Is the beep before how does the beep mean to enter that that concludes your message are you satisfied? And trying to leave a voice reply for another woman who would respond it to his ad keys had recorded over his original greeting Yeah, I'll definitely smear that ass with my love jelly. Yeah, sure. Absolutely. Did you did you? Oh, are you satisfied with your recording well luckily for Israel keys a woman known by the pseudonym of Tammy Hawkins Found his fuck up kind of cute. So after discovering they were both really into new metal and Rob zombie movies It's cool. Yeah, the two of them made plans for a date and after a long launch They took a drive. They ate dinner at Applebee's The best part about the special meals that you can get apps with the dinner entree

Yeah, you can I know all about that and they end of the night with a movie and pretty soon after that They were dating. I bet you they saw Pearl Harbor That's the perfect date. Yeah, perfect day. Oh, yeah But while Israel was deployed in the field Tammy discovered that she was pregnant Oh, oh, and that's when Israel came clean that he actually had a 19-year-old fiance back in Colville How do these guys get so many women? I don't know. So she got Applebee's pregnant. Yeah, he whined and dined your day This is an Applebee's baby dated for a while before she got pregnant. I'll tell you what. Yeah, those spring rolls. Yeah Yeah, they make they make you gay. I don't know if that's true or not. I don't know either, but no Applebee's it's a it's a

Uh, what do you call those? Aphrodisiac. Aphrodisiac. Oh You get that. Yeah, there's nothing I want to do after eating at Applebee's nothing. I want to do more than fuck But upon learning that Tammy was pregnant Israel broke it off with the other girl Got an honorable discharge from the army and eventually married Tammy Hawkins Now Israel wasn't without his faults at the time. What do you mean? Yeah, according to Tammy. He was a pompous and arrogant control freak in addition to being a high-functioning alcoholic who is known to drink a handle of liquor a bottle of wine and a six or a beer all in one night And he's probably deeply bragging about how much he could drink at all times everywhere anywhere. He goes being like

Oh, that's all you're drinking nice work Pussy I hate those They drive me crazy. Oh, yeah Bud light. Yeah, I wanted to get you. It's all he gets is he wanted some water No, actually bud lights really good because you can drink a lot of it That is their entire marketing campaign. Yeah, but still Tammy loved Israel for some reason So in 2001 the two of them moved to a rental house on the Maka Indian Reservation because Tammy was a part of the tribe

And that's where israel got a job with the tribal council in the parks and recreation department You know how many times you'd go be like, um, that's not the way to properly fold the tp. Okay Like what you got to do is you got to get the flap of the other side, right? You got to like pull it tight kind of like you're wrapping up a body and a flunking cloth You know native my people my people know how to do this Please get away from me. Please stop native americans explaining things to me I think I know a little bit about being a native americans since i'm currently fucking one Now Tammy's job required her to travel quite a bit

So israel or izzy as she liked to call him was spending a lot of time alone She also noticed that around this time israel started to change. He started listening to Exclusively new metal where he's before he can enjoy an ace of bass single every once in a while I never listened to ace of bass and I'd like to see proof of it if you've got proof of it I would like to get a hold of it before we can put it to court. Okay. All right. I never once listened to ace of bass Well, if you never listened to ace of bass, what did they see? I hope you don't get this answer wrong I saw the sun. You saw the sun. See that's a song isn't it?

I saw the sun. Don't matter without understanding Ace of bass holds up But no, you could see he gets pretty wrapped. I remember my cousins when they go when corn When the corn cloud came through my family and everybody kind of changed the sullen attitudes a lot of chain wallets a lot of like Deposter changes to your kind of stick like laying like a parallelogram all the time. We have one shoulder bigger than the other I'll never fully understand the chain wallet phase, but that's okay I have a chain wallet with a whole bunch of flames on it. I love that one. I love it, buddy

I just I never had one. I don't know well israel also started an online poker account using the name black heart as his head Wow Cool and he topped it all off by branding his chest with an upside down cross and getting a pentagram Tattooed on the base of his neck. Hey, man If we if I was more impulsive as a kid, I probably would have had a couple of pentagrams on me Yeah, so I can't judge that because it happens when you were a kid you wanted to be a catholic priest You would have had a bunch of Celtic religious symbols on you No, that's when you change. Well, if I'd stayed in Queens and become a priest. I would have gotten at least one of the

Virgin Mary hands. That's very yeah, you have to you have to that's just to stay in woodhaven Yes, some of my more impulsive decisions. I'm actually getting a tattoo removal starting on tuesday I love your tattoos. Oh no one of them's pretty awful. I want to get a cover-up So if we have any tattoo if we have any tattoo artists listening You definitely do. What do you want to get? Oh, I got ideas. Okay. Yeah, I don't I don't want to spitball You don't want to spitball? No, I got two ideas that I've been thinking about for about five years now But yeah, if there's any tattoo artists that would in the in the area that would like to take a shot at it Get a hold of it. Yeah, it's the one with Donald Duck gaping his asshole. Yeah

I know you told me about that. No, I'm not supposed to say that. It's the one it's the one with uh Donald duck right after goof. He just blows a big ol load. Wow. Yeah That's something, yeah. Fly from your grave Fly from your grave But while Tammy figured that israel was just going through a phase keys was plugging into something different all together He said during his confession that shortly after getting out of the military The urge to kill started growing and that he had a sort of feeling that he needed to quote do something And it's thought that in 2001 that's something that he felt he needed to do

Was murder murder. No, he's so weird that I actually you know what I certain equate israel keys to my mind Is that to serial killers? He's kind of like the roger from dug No, we say thought because israel keys only openly admitted to three murders that could be confirmed And he only kind of sort of admitted to one more that would be a hell of a coincidence if he didn't do it But while israel keys wasn't holding after his arrest while cops were trying to get a full accounting of his crimes They found a 10 page stream of consciousness document in which israel described six murders in all these fucking serial killers in there It's these because mark twitchel too. Yeah, it's all it's the diaries. Yeah, he does have a twitchel like vibe to him as well For sure. Yeah, very much a twitchel like vibe and along with the letter

They also discovered that keys have been drawing pictures on his cell wall in his own blood He'd drawn 11 skulls And under the skulls he had written quote We are one Yeah, corn music video activated, bro No, all the girls will love me. No all the girls will want to be with me. Sounds like a song from 98 degrees We are one. It's it's very straight because ah god douchebag Yeah, absolutely douchebag. Yeah, so based on this and other things that keys said the fbi

Thanks that put in keys body count at least 11 is a safe bet And the fbi is still to this day looking for information Concerning the seven other murders because they're pretty sure that he committed them, but they don't even know who the victims are Well in his long rambling confessions They had over 25 hours of interview with him where they're slowly but surely trying to get whatever information that they can out of him By basically giving him snickers bars americanos and cigars peanut butter snickers bars. That's true That's not a bad choice. That's not a bad choice But they kept bribing with this but he would leave you'd say these kernels of being like there might have been a girl

In organ there might have been this there. I don't know. I'm not really sure what he is real today We're talking about. Yeah, Israel, you know, you're not you and you're hungry Want to have a snickers bar? It turns into uh like ellen page Get me out of here. I didn't murder those women I shouldn't be she was angry. She was angry. I've heard that now. It's thought by the fbi that keys began killing between july and october of 2001 when keys was living in neah bay washington Although we have no idea where he killed how he killed or who he killed

But considering that we know about how he killed his last few victims It is reasonable to believe when he said that he killed most of the rest of his victims in the same way Stabbing followed by strangulation, but it's interesting because obviously we're in 2001 We know what happened september 11th 2001. It seems like he could have just read up in the military and uh judging by the wiki leaks footage We saw he could have killed a lot more people He really could have Mixed both of his passions for the military and murder Well, even though he did the stabbing the strangulation thing most of the time

He said that his second and third victims were actually killed by a blow to the head He said he actually wasn't trying to kill them, but he was merely trying to quote Take them out of action. Whatever that means. It sounds sort of like the uh david berkowitz First strike kills when he didn't understand when ed kemper talked about when he first stabbed somebody he didn't really understand How difficult it was so it sounds like he was kind of experimenting With his ways of doing it and because he wasn't fully committed To going all the way through it seems a lot more likely you're gonna kill someone though If you hit them in the head with a blunt object, yeah, you know

It actually probably knew what he was gonna do what was gonna happen It's important for people to know how easy it is like if you get into a fight and you punch somebody You need to be really really careful because head injuries are really really easy to succumb people to death And you can go straight from having like a sudden impulsive fight into a bar and all of a sudden you're a murderer Well, see this is why you should have a child. This is why you need a son or a daughter. You realize you just described the plot to con air How many times do we start talking and then realize it's just a nicolas cage Regardless keys said that these victims a still unidentified couple were buried somewhere in washington state Oh, so after the couple in washington state keys started taking road trips

In february of 2004 keys rented a car in salt lake city and kept it for seven days Putting 522 miles on the vehicle Now we don't know if he actually committed a murder on that trip, but it does fit with his mo See until his last victim keys never murdered close to home He would rent a car drive to where no one knew him abduct someone take them to another state to kill them Then take them to another state to get rid of the body. This is where people start calling him a mastermind It's not it's just driving. It's just driving. It's not masterminding. No, it's just the concept of he knows That it's very difficult once you start crossing state lines to get a proper investigation going

And if you switch up mo's and you switch up the type of victims that you're victimizing you will end up Like it's very difficult to patch all that together And then he'd use excuses where because he'd have to get away from his family and he'd say stuff Be like I gotta go to the cd store to make some returns and then be gone for five days well in 2005 and 2006 Keys did the state-to-state thing twice and disposed of the bodies in the deeper parts of crescent lake in washington By tying weighted milk jugs to the bodies to help them sink to the bottom Yeah, because that's how and because that's how he would

Hint that he would murder people. It's like, you know that leak and it's out by it's like my chunk my chunk of lunker I like that like yeah, maybe you've been over there. That's one of my favorite has a lot of leeches in it But I tell you what it's 700 feet deep Yeah, how do you know that I took a ruler Well, he said that he committed these murders by stabbing his victims with a four inch Tanto folding blade that he'd bought at walmart, which tantos pretty good knife As far as pretty nice knife as far as knives go great commercial for it. Yeah. Yeah. Is that integrated marketing? Are we doing it? Are we doing it? I like knives

There it is But as israel keys was doing this his relationship was falling apart. No Well, tammy had developed a nasty opiate addiction. Oh, it's tammy's fault. No, it's I mean it's both But that's why israel moved out of the house and took the daughter with him That's when israel met a woman known by the pseudonym of kimberley anderson On match.com and the two of them started dating Well, things got serious between kimberley and israel So when kimberley was offered a job in anchorage, alaska, she invited israel to come along

So in 2007 israel moved to anchorage and started his own fairly successful contracting business keys construction But although keys construction kept him busy for a while on halloween of 2008 keys was back at it He flew to seattle rented a pt cruiser And spent the next About a second. Why did you say that was such to stay? It is a That was one of the most disdained accent that I've ever heard you have It's a pt cruiser

No, man, it's a fucking awful car. I remember with my buddy in college I remember when it I remember when I knew it was a bad car because he had a wood panel pt cruiser And he picked me up from and he's like, hey, henry, why don't I check out this fucking awesome band? I started listening to it. It's like, oh, what's it called? It's like maroon five And he put it so it's like Tooling around tallahassee in a pt cruiser listen to maroon five to all of our listeners listening to this very episode on a pt cruiser I think you look great on the road. Of course you would love a pt cruiser. I just don't hate them the way that you do Anyway, let's get back to israel keys. I'm sorry

Well, after he got the pt cruiser he spent the next three days traveling as far south as arizona Now the fbi strongly suspects that keys committed a murder during this time But the tell as far as why they think he committed a murder is to say the very least strange It was on that trip that keys bought a fishing license in wyoming And because it seems like keys never passed up on a chance to do a little fishing when he was getting rid of a body He paired the activities because a part of it was an excuse, right? It was an alibi. This is why I'm doing this But also he just straight up would hide a body in a lake and then fish and then cook the fish and eat Very bizarre interesting. I'm a pescetary. Oh, I didn't know that

It was also during this time that keys started hiding what he called his kill kits In different states around the country Hmm using five-gallon plastic buckets israel would stash guns knives ammunition wires rope and flashlights For use in future murders now that's something cool for kids to discover I mean that would be fucking crazy That would be awesome But you take these buckets you'd fill it up to the brim with all of these items and hide it in various places And then he would develop this sort of I would say close to sexual game

Where he then knew he had planted a seed for a murder in some part of the country And that he could go just show up out of nowhere Grab the kit and go and commit one and the way he put it He's like israel keys in his own words was like I remember being a kid and thinking about how fun it would be to find buried treasure So I decided to just bury it myself That's not a lot of that's not treasure treasure is usually gold or jewel. You're not my real dad I don't know. I just

Well, among other places keys claim that he buried a kill kit near green river wyoming and another near port angeles Washington to date Two of them have been found Okay One in the wanouski river nature area in vermont and one near the blackfalls reservoir outside of perishville new york And it was with the new york kill kit that he most likely murdered a woman abducted from new jersey on april 9th 2009 this is one of his scariest aspects because he did make it so he had a mobile Unit available whenever he wanted and he did not have to worry about disposing or finding

Material to kill people with he was prepared wherever he went Okay Debra Feldman of hackensack, new jersey was last seen on april 8th at a time when keys was known to be in the area And keys admitted to abducting a woman on april 9th and taken her to new york Where he murdered her and buried her near topper lake But what you might be wondering at this moment How did israel keys pay for all these flights down to the lower 48 in addition to paying for rental cars and gas money? Actually, I wasn't even wondering that but now I am. Yeah, how the hell did all that happen?

Yeah, how do you get this bank one? Did he have a go fund me? Did he have a patreon page? He was a bank robber This is it's kind of he would get his itch scratched halfway by robin banks Yeah, keys claims to have robbed multiple banks during his travels around the country And we know for a fact that he robbed one on april 10th 2009 the day after he probably murdered debba feldman because that was the thing is that he usually committed bank robberies After murders it was like the cherry on top very bizarre But then he would also but that's way if you found one of these kill kits, it's filled with cash Now okay on that day on april 10th keys robbed community bank in tupper lake new york

His mo would be to research towns on the internet looking for smaller places with three or four routes leading out of town Then once he found a bank that was suitable He would smoke a cigar in the parking lot and walk inside wearing a disguise and do the whole everybody get down on the ground thing Well at tupper lake keys used a 40 caliber handgun to walk away with $10,000 Surveillance footage showed keys walking inside wearing gloves sunglasses jeans and a pasted on beard that while It was obvious that the beard wasn't his own it still looked suspiciously like real hair It's a silly van dyke. Yeah, but it's it's weird how you could just wear something very obviously fake because then it throws people off Yeah, yeah, and when he was shown stills from the footage from the bank robbery during his interrogation

And asked if it was real hair and if so where did he get that real hair? Keys said quote you don't have to buy real hair Here's free Oh Fucking I don't really understand how A cop didn't just grab him by the back of the head just do one Like yeah, turn the camera off. No, no, no, we just want just turn the camera for a second

And they just mel Gibson him one time and the fucking end of the table. Yeah, I'm not sure how they were able to contain themselves So the day after the robbery keys checked into the handy sweets hotel in Essex Vermont and stayed four nights What kind of place is this handy sweets? My goodness. Sounds like a place Robert Kraft might visit Yeah, it's just the it's got shower stalls with hands and like little grip motions So you could just stick your dick in and out of these porcelain hands pretty nice During that stay keys walked down a path at the Woodside natural area and left his gun in a kill kit for later use Then on April 14th. He took a flight back to Alaska But after another trip in which keys put 280 miles on a forward focus in three days coming out of Sacramento

He decided to take a break from the lower 48 well They said that might have been because he ended up having a kid with Kimberly Anderson So he's saying that they during that time period He had a kid and he knew he couldn't travel as much because You know the constant game is to have a normal family in job Right, and then you make an excuse to leave you go you commit your crimes where he said his shadow self Would take over where you know guy. He's like his name was Bernie Randerson

But they would go and do bullshit and then come back and so at that point he couldn't He couldn't find the right alibi to leave. So that's what gets him off the double life Well instead of leaving to go to the lower 48 Israel decided he'd try something closer to home in april of 2011 keys made a homemade silencer in his shed with Parts bought from home depot and took a rifle to point warren's off park in west anchorage That's a rough one point warren's off Point warren's off got it at about 10 p.m Keys set up a little snipers nest in the bushes and scoped a young couple sitting in a car

But right before he pulled the trigger an apd patrol cruiser came by and told the couple to move it along moment passed Hmm. Israel wasn't going to kill these people because it was going to give him the same adrenaline rush that stabbing and strangling gave him He said he just wanted to see if his homemade silencer worked. It reminds me of kuklinski using the crossbow Yeah, just to see what would happen. Yeah, but if you're just testing the silencer, you can shoot a tree. That is true Yeah, but then you don't kill people. No, I understand. That's the whole point Well, you got to see that's the thing is that you got to see if the uh bullet is still going to move fast enough to kill someone And he thought that you could just tell a gun And the bullet would be very very quiet

Ah, yes, of course, genius Very quiet pretty soon after the sniping attempt keys staked out the north fork trailhead in eagle river, alaska Preparing for the kill by burying a shovel and a bottle of drayno in a garbage bag in the nearby woods Keys was planning to kill a kayaker. Look, I made a meth tree The plan was to just kill whoever happened to come along right there in the parking lot Dig a hole then pour drayno on the body to speed along the decomposition process But no one showed up. So israel just went home Now there were two other murders that keys caught to prior to the last three murders that we know he committed

One victim was described as a woman with a wealthy grandmother who had pale skin and drove an older car It's just like a member of the Hearst family It's I've been watching a lot of the uh that black dolly a show and it's got a lot of those people And yeah, well, you know an old woman behind a car with like a huge car with a big steering wheel Going like are you my daughter? I am going over parking cones. Yeah, that is interesting It seems like a strange description. He was very vague. He was purposely vague a lot of the time This is a description that he provided. Yes. All of this is all of this. Yeah, all of this is descriptions He provided. Okay, so we have to have a little bit of a grain of salt here a little bit

But the murders that they were able to confirm lends a little credence to what he said Okay, that's a good cause the severity of those murders too. We're going to get into the details of one of them in this episode The level of intensity of those murders shows he had a ramp up period up until And the other murder that he talked about he said he staged it to look like an accident And there are possible international locations too. He was known to travel to Montreal on a regular basis to visit brothels And he made other trips to Mexico and Belize How did he stage it to look like an accident and put a bunch of shovels around? What is the staging for that? You take the body to the bottom of a construction site

You put a big plank at the top of one of the buildings and you put like a burger at the very end of the plank So it just looked like they mr. Magood their way Oh, I see But the murders that we know with absolute certainty that keys committed was the double homicide of bill and lorraine courier In june of 2011 keys flew out of ted stevens international airport in anchorage. Nothing. I love better than an independent airport Is it former senator? This is my airport. I'll tell you what planes go. I hate helicopters I hate helicopters and I hate boats Let's see here. Welcome to Ted Stevens airport. Oh, it looks like your name is Israel keys. I'm sorry

This whole only Ted's allowed Well, I flew out of Ted Stevens airport and returned to Essex Vermont Where he had left a kill kit after the supposed murder of Debra Feldman On june 7th keys checked into the same handy suites motel where he'd stayed three years earlier Then went out and got a three-day fishing license So he could have a nice relaxing time on lake Champlain before committing his next murders So after he caught his fill he returned to his kill kit and retrieved his gun Some zip ties and a headlamp before driving back to Essex

See before he'd gone fishing keys had been driving around Essex to scope out locations to take a prospective victim He'd wanted to choose a church again echoing btk Then burned down the church after the murder new metal So fucking cool lord But he'd instead settled on an abandoned farmhouse See at this point He hadn't even chosen his victims yet because israel keys didn't choose his victims until the last second So to be to be not to be fair to this asshole, but he was very meticulous

Yes, a lot of times people in my understanding is they have a body And then it's like batman when he had the bomb and he couldn't dispose of it anywhere Because there was a family of ducks and whatnot and they're like, what are we gonna do? What am I gonna do with his body? But it seems like he had this stuff well scouted always very we have your organized and disorganized killers, right? He was very organized. Yeah, but a part of it was almost kind of like He would set up all of the factors to a T And then the sexual part of it was the the immediate choosing and all of the game then would begin once he's prepared

I see we're on eight o'clock p.m. On june 8th 2011 israel keys packed a 40 caliber semi automatic cable ties duct tape a blindfold and a headlamp into a backpack And walked out ready to kill his first attempt came at the cornerstone apartment complex just 100 feet down the street from his hotel He was on the lookout for a man alone with a good car because keys planned on robin a bank the next day It was pouring rain as he waited in the dark for someone to drive up And when a yellow Volkswagen pulled into the parking lot keys thought he had his man But since it was raining the dude quickly dashed inside and keys lost his chance Feeling a little down about the missed opportunity

Oh keys returned to his hotel room and came up with a different plan. What if I Start a business selling cookies like famous amos. Yeah, that would work. That would work He figured instead of just abducting one man That abducting a couple from their home would provide more satisfaction So at midnight keys left the hotel again and walked about a quarter mile down the road to colbert street Looking for a house that obviously had no kids inside is the only exclusion keys made when it came to victims There's kids and dogs because he said they straight up complicated shit So the he knew that there was no kids inside because it seems like the couple was really happy

He said when he goes scout locations He would try to find houses that look like old people who live with kids that were out of the house So he would look at stuff like yeah, you have to see the c-pap machine outside. You have to see a couple of foot baths So children and elderly people So after finding a house that looked like it belonged to an older couple keys first cut the phone line Not to keep them from calling the cops But to see if cutting the line triggered an alarm that would bring the cops regardless So when nothing happened keys decided to move forward

He removed a fan from the garage window and climbed inside where in the headlamp so he could move covertly in the darkness This is a little warning to you for you to understand that this is what happens when you kind of leave your house open like this Like those fans can be easily pushed in and then they have access to your house. Well, that's scary Yeah, it is scary. Well, I just don't think we need to scare the audience Maybe someone's listening at night and they have a fan in their window. Take it out of the window now It's hot inside Well checking the registration on the Saturn sedan parked inside Keys found that his hunch about the house belonging to a childless older couple was correct

So wanting to take them completely by surprise keys picked up a crowbar and smashed the window of the door Leading to the kitchen and made it to the bedroom of bill and lorraine courier within seconds Once there keys restrained the couple with zip ties and rummaged through the courier's belongings finding their cell phones And Lorraine's luger handgun now after getting what he wanted keys took the couriers down to their garage and forced him into their own car Lorraine was put in the front with her hands tied behind her back and her feet tied together While bill was put in the back and tied much the same way Then keys began driving away in the couple's sedan But keys didn't tell him that he was going to kill him rather he told them that they were being kidnapped for ransom money

And he was just taking him to a safe house where his Colleagues were waiting and they were screaming about how I mean obviously But they said the bill's line and he was talking to him was like you have the wrong people Yeah, like we don't have any money. We this is a mistake Obviously you want to be you're in some drug deal. You're in over your head, but you we're the wrong people We're not involved in the drug trade. Yeah, they're like we have a hundred dollars in our bank account You're not getting any money from us so sad But he still didn't have everything he needed so he stopped back off at the handy sweets

He ran inside got a shovel trash bags and two gallons of drain. Oh, and they came back out and stored all of his belongings in the trunk Now that he had everything he needed. He drove to the vacant farmhouse. He picked out for the crime and parked out back bill was taken in first Keys walked him to the pitch black basement and strapped him to a stool with more zip ties before going back for Lorraine But when he got there he found that Lorraine had broken loose This is like from like a horror movie. Yeah. Oh, it absolutely is She just got herself free when keys returned so she took off running But keys caught up to her without much trouble and tackled her to the ground

Lorraine was then dragged to the second floor bedroom and secured to a mattress with duct tape But just as keys was tying a rope around Lorraine's neck. He heard noises coming down from the basement Bill had gotten loose as well and was fumbling in the dark looking for a weapon So keys went down with the shovel he'd brought and hit bill in the head Then he went upstairs grabbed his gun came back down and shot bill 10 times Geez and he says that's the only time he ever shot someone and the only reason why I shot him was because he said he lost His temper because bill wasn't doing what he was supposed to do I'll just sit there and die a different way follow

Direction. Oh god. It wasn't until the last shot was fired that bill finally fell to the ground dead Then keys went back upstairs gagged Lorraine with paper towels and duct tape Rape her then strangled her with his hands until she passed out When she woke back up keys took her to the basement where her husband's dead body lay in the dark and sat her on a bench Putting on leather batting gloves first Keys strangled her to death from behind with a rope before tightening a cable tie around her neck to make sure she was dead

Keys then put both bodies and heavy trash bags Using two on each of them to make sure they were fully covered After that was done. He poured a gallon of gerino on each body before tossing the bags in the corner of the basement And covering them with wood and garbage. He found lying around Once the bodies were suitably hidden He drove the courier's car to a Lowe's parking lot and walked back to the handy suites Where he checked out and drove his rental car to visit his brother and bang or main Then that's why instead of being a serial killer you should busy yourself with building a website with squarespace

Thank you so much. Your squarespace are sponsors integrated marketing. Very good Well after he got back from bang or main He stopped at a national forest and burned a suitcase full of the courier's belongings Then returned to Essex so he could see the chaos he'd caused Relishing the sight of police tape around the courier's home Which is why I think that everything that will cover in his confession. So the next episode is a fucking. He's full of shit He wanted all the attention that he could get And finally keys drove to chicago and took a flight back to anchorage where less than a year later

He would commit his final and cruelest murder And that's where we'll pick back up for israel keys part two. All right. There it is israel keys. I mean It is it's an interesting story the bank robberies. I mean all the murders. There's a lot to it. It's crazy And again, that was 2000 and this was 2009 Uh, yeah, it was between pretty much between 2001 and 2012. Wow. Okay. They're also Fine for us, right? We don't cover a lot of modern killers. No, we don't so this is probably one of those modern stories We've told in terms of like the up until the time period with how much coverage it got And now when you can look back and see I think one of the more interesting things about this case

Is that you can go and watch hours of his fucking face Talk and so you could start to see but like put him in these scenarios You see this this rat face fuck Talking for a couple hours and then you you're like you wonder what your connection is to the stories Because you don't really get that unless it's ted bundy the really high profile ones Which is why israel keys in the end I think got the high profile status that he got because all those interviews were released because of a new york author Ended up having got them all popped um with a freedom information act

Um because he was trying to write a book on israel and don't forget headline news was 24 seven crime shows Nancy grace I remember her talking about this in real time Yeah, and you can trust nancy grace because yes, she has a nice blouse up top down below as we saw at crime con Sweat pants and cowboy boots. I dare you to hit me in the head with a two by four and see if i'll stop report She really wouldn't she has an interesting fashion, but she was very nice. She was me with all the things I eat lipstick and I crap diamonds I know you do nancy. I know you do. All right, israel keys part two

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