Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 366: Rendlesham Forest Part I - I'm the Alien

Episode Date: May 25, 2019

It's time for aliens again as we cover possibly the most credible, impressive, and well-documented UFO sightings in history with the Rendlesham Forest Incident, in which over 60 US military personnel witnessed intelligently controlled lights in the sky, while a further two experienced it up close and personal.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last time on the left That's when the cannibalism started I got like an extra runny nose today, I think it's because we're covering a British topic I think a lot of British people have that nasal drip It goes all the way back because it's the bad ducks No, I don't think that's not a stereotype of the British people a runny nose And they've got a lot of slime behind their Adam's apple I'm not a doctor in England, so I'm not sure but we'll find out

For a UK tour in September. Can't wait. Yeah, the strange like Stereotypes you come up with for groups of people Yeah seems like a vision problem there The left I am Ben that's Marcus. Hello. We got Henry over in Los Angeles. How you doing, buddy? I am 178 pounds horny today I am so excited for this topic. This is this is serious This is really serious this fucking serious. Okay, I already hear the mocking tone in your voice

I'm not mocking no I didn't know this is British and as we talked about before the show anything that happens in the UK with the British folks I take very seriously because they're a serious people. Let's be honest. They sound very intelligent sometimes They really do so today's topic You know, I think we're I think we've been doing this podcast long enough to really handle this topic I really do It's the Roswell of the UK and it is called Randall shim Randall shim sounds like a large man who works on a farm if you just take it

You just say it sounds like a man you pay that he takes big boulders out of unusable Yes, like that's part of what he does and the other thing is sometimes if you're real tired, he'll make love to your wife Oh, right He also kind of sounds like someone you say Randall shim and then he's in the middle of taking a dump And he says whoop and then the dump goes right back into his butt Put on his trousers No, actually it's an incredibly compelling UFO case. Yes, I know Randall shim That's what we're covering today a super as Henry said compelling UFO case. So this is actually I'm very excited

Yeah, the Randall shim forest UFO incident is perhaps the most well-documented credible and impressive collection of UFO sightings in modern times Over the course of two nights in December of 1980 dozens of US military personnel stationed in Suffolk, England witnessed intelligently controlled craft in the sky and as if that wasn't enough a Further two soldiers claim to have come into contact with the craft while it was actually on the ground So fun Now the reason why we say this is so credible is because of the people who have come forward in the intervening years to speak about the incident First let's acknowledge the author of Encounter at Randall shim our main source for this series

This is definitely the most legit of the books about the Randall shim forest UFO incident because Nick Pope has spent a long time being very serious And he wants to make sure that he gets enough of his information in there as possible as tight as possible But I will say I think there are more Cuckoo bananas self-published books about the Randall shim forest UFO incident that almost any other Topic in UFO history because there are many men in this that believe they are the main character Interesting. All right. Very cool. And of course the Randall shim a lot of times Well, never mind. I was gonna get a little blue with it. Okay, the rent. Oh, you don't want to go come on

Get a little blue. Come on. It was Usually late nights man Incident is when you have sex with a man in the woods. I don't know I I was gonna get a little blue there, but I've been talking about the brambles Okay, well the author of encounter at Randall shim is Henry said is Nick Pope from 1991 to 1994 Pope actually worked for the British Ministry of Defense Investigating UFOs alien abductions crop circles and all the other weird shit that nobody else wanted to deal with

He took it as a point of pride that he was saddled with the secrets of the UK government But little did he know the rest of the government viewed him as a diaper boy The shit they didn't want to deal with but Nick Pope as we have all done many times in the past I will continue to do you flip and reverse it being like I'll take your poo poo diaper. You call me diaper boy. Guess what? I'll sit in my shit for 12 hours. I'm great at it. I love it. Absolutely like an angry female astronaut on the way to kill her The other person involved in this story who has a large amount of credibility is US military colonel Charles Halt He was the deputy base commander of one of the two military bases involved in the Randall shim forest incident And has gone on record multiple times as being a skeptic turned believer

Awesome, those are the best when they're skeptical and then they come to believe. Yep J. Ellen Heineck J. Ellen Heineck was like that Stitten Friedman was like that. Mmm. All of the people that are like the most down-to-earth Grounded quote-unquote grounded UFO experts in the entire field Normally, they came at the subject looking to debunk it right now They found themselves with the overwhelming waves of evidence being like oh well now now I've actually I am just a ufologist and my family has left So there are a lot of military people involved here. It's nothing but military is that yes Is this the I mean obviously that has to make it so that's why it's so credible

I suppose yes, but is this is this does this case involve more military people than any other case that we've covered so far If from oh so what we've covered. Yes, okay for definite Besides I'd say the Hudson Valley Triangle which actually got a lot of attention and when we talked about the Phoenix lights briefly That also got quite a bit of attention From the military, but this story is that's reason why for me. This is one of the most interesting Compelling the because of the witnesses involved right these people for the most part their jobs are to observe Right awesome cool. Yeah, but the fact that it does involve Almost exclusively military people is what also makes this so frustrating

Yeah, because Pope Halt and the other witnesses to this incident fully admit that they have more Information than what they're legally allowed to share with the public because a lot of the information surrounding the incident is still classified And this is ultimately frustrating because they do know the answers to some of the questions that crop up when it comes to the story But both the law and their own personal honor Prevent them from sharing those missing pieces of the puzzle also because Marcus bullets cheat What should be the opposite that's old Chris Rock bit is that you should make the bullets Expensive you know what I think they should do instead of making the bullets expensive make them the size of a gun

So some of the questions what were some of the questions like mr. Military, man Do they have two penises? To be this is or as a matter of fact that is classified information, but let's just say they don't not have Which is also wonder why human beings are born with two nostrils That is not a vagina Alien I'm a male species the vagina of a man is in the nose So gross but before we get into the Knights in question It's important to know exactly how important the area around

Rendlesham forest in England was to both the US military and to the NATO defense system at large Oh, this to me is the biggest like the biggest ringing bell the biggest swinging tits of this whole story. It's just how Important these two twin bases were to the US and a UK government Which is why in and which would come in the second episode the idea that any of this being a prank or any of this being being taken Very lightly. I think is a ludicrous because this place was highly top secret interesting now. I cannot think about Thinking about the Liberty Bell, but if it was just to swing intense They cracked our swing intense and then what a world that would be Now before this area came to be a home for the US Air Force during the Cold War

This area of Suffolk was home to the discovery of one of the most important military technologies of modern times Hmm radar. Oh, I didn't know this personally But radar was actually discovered on accident Their original aim with the project was to focus radio waves into a death ray That could shoot German planes out of the sky in the lead-up to World War two. That's fucking sweet Just up there just been like off what is happening fish my seats Have I saw if I shouts my pants my sides of my pants? Oh, why is my soul warm? Oh, I put the seatformers on that must be it. Wait, no, it's a death ray. No

But what they found instead at Bodzie Manor was that those radio waves could be used to detect Aircraft and once that was discovered the Brits gained a key advantage over the jerry's when the Nazis came flying over the English Channel Eventually though the radar technology was taken over by us Americans and evolved into a long-distance radar system codenamed Cobra mist. Yeah, dude. I remember that axe flavor Cobra mist Cobra mist they got to get more artistically minded people in the military again You just like walking through the for can you imagine that you're like close a fog roll and then there's thousands of floating snakes Now all this talk of radar may seem inconsequential at first glance But when you take a new account that many of the most credible UFO sightings in history have occurred around military bases

Or we're witnessed by military personnel. It starts to make a bit more sense Now Henry might have a bit of a different opinion here But I think that if actual nuts and bolts UFOs are coming to visit the earth from wherever Whether it be another planet or another dimension then it would make the most sense for them to scope out our military Mm-hmm. I actually have the opposite. I have the totally I have the totally same opinion. I believe though of course because if they If they are nuts and bolts UFOs, but that's kind of what this episode is a little bit about right especially Especially episode one of this series is if these are actual crafts that arrive from a different part of the solar system Or another solar system or for another universe through a wormhole

Why would they not show up and go straight to where our fucking planes are they would show up to where the other things that buzz Around that do the country because especially what if again one weird alternative theory is that the ships themselves or aliens? That they're literally going to meet their friends on this planet They literally show up to see the other top-secret plans. I mean, this is a great Pixar movie. Yeah, it's about This is just cars, baby That's that version of the story that they show up because also maybe they're looking to fuck Maybe some of these things are fucking hot our stealth bomber. That's kind of sexy, right? You can see like when people fuck objects here and because their wires are criss-crossing there

And for some reason their DNA doesn't want them to breed all over the bridge What if it's the same thing like that? UFOs actually can try to breed with our planes that I'm not just saying they're horny for our plane That's one idea. I have so then I have a more Woo-ee-woo idea that I'm gonna save. Okay, you have a more woo-ee-woo-ee idea than that these UFOs are trying to have sex with our planes That's science that's undiscovered science is what I'm I see I do think it would be cute to see a montage of the UFOs coming down and they're like meeting up around like Epcot Center And then going on the rides wearing little Mickey Mouse hats and then they're back over at the like let's say like the Port Orleans

And the one jets back on it's like it's got back on there in the UFO pulls out its tube right with this fucking and sticks It's tube into the the you know like to fill her up got filler up Opening credits to Dr. Strange love. I don't know All right Well the rendle shim forest area makes even more sense once you get to the Cold War See this area was home to not one but two military bases Bent waters and Woodbridge and these two bases were separated by a few hundred yards of forest Rendle shim forest

Cool, and it was thick. Yeah, it was as thick as the bush hairs on a Duke over there A Duke like a dude like the Duke of York. Yes They don't landscape no no definitely not it's a point of pride for them to keep that bush hair long and frustrated Frustrated bush hair I can't keep on animating inanimate things I was again thinking about bush hairs all tangled up and be like so how do we get here? Well bent waters and Woodbridge were both United States military bases and the Brits have never been all that keen on our decades long military presence in their country

Yeah, according to Nick Pope the post-World War two British joke was that American soldiers were overpaid over sexed and over here Meaning England I know Honestly, okay, I got mad. I just got mad person. Yeah, but you know what the US soldiers that have come back What was that? This is what they called the Brits quote Underpaid undissexed and under eyes an hour To get hammered over in a saloon with those kind of funny guys I wouldn't even know what military to choose all the humor is so good

My gosh You're gonna choose Air Force guys. You got to yeah. Yeah. They're very fun surprisingly hammered. Yeah. Yeah They drink a lot Do it for our military listeners out there the Navy the Army or the Air Force who drinks the most We do in crowd work at a USO show No, we haven't made it yet, but when it came to being stationed at Rendlesham Forest Americans didn't necessarily enjoy that particular posting because it had a long-standing reputation for being creepy Sinister and overall just kind of depressing the the forest. Yeah, the forest the whole the whole area of England interesting

I believe the term was East Anglia was where they were at which was this this area of The United Kingdom was about 60 miles northeast of London on the beach now when you hear this concept of like man We're stationed on the beach. That's got a fucking killer, you know, right crush it Natty lights are out there surfing like it's apocalypse now and all the shit, but this was a British beach Which meant that the sand was gray I want to say it was filled with eels Gray as fuck beach that was a purposefully put out into a remote area of the UK where they were not vacationing Okay, so these guys weren't having a great time out there

They weren't but the Woodbridge and Bintwater's bases were horribly important in a strategic sense When it came to the Cold War between America and Russia And for those of you not well-versed in Cold War history when it came to Europe, you had two coalitions You had NATO led by the United States because we were the only country who weren't blown to hell in World War two Yeah, yeah, we we did it. We did we were further away than they were And you had the Warsaw Pact nations controlled by the Soviet Union Now those Warsaw Pact countries like Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary or Poland decided to follow the orders of the Soviet Union and invade Western Europe by ground They were going to need backup and that is where Bintwater's and Woodbridge came in

Located on the eastern coast of England both bases were fully stocked with American A-10 Warthogs Which could be called in to blow Soviet ground forces to hell from above just like they later did in the Gulf War Warthog is a very nice name for a large military vehicle horrible name for a high school kid Horrible name unless again you own it and you're like on the offensive line for the football team That's what you got to do again always flip it and reverse it. It was actually in an area called Suffolk It's I think it's around Suffolk Yeah

I also did think about the Polish. Uh, they're like, oh, it's gonna be a ground war and then just them just driving their planes Well the Polish also then released their their army of evil toys It's like an evil jack in the box and a really sharp slinky that comes rolling through the Which is as a visual is incredible. Yeah. Oh, absolutely is easily destroyed by something the likes of a fire extinguisher Yeah, that's all right. I'm sure we have like a Polish scientist who listens to us and really doesn't like being So with Polish people are very smart too. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, we can be yeah. Yeah, we really can be we're very able people We're survivors. Yeah, that's what we are. Yeah, like Beyonce. Yeah, of course. Yeah I always think of Beyonce and then immediately the Polish just put my butt next to Beyonce's and you see the true meaning of being Polish

But the bent waters and wood bridge bases may have been hiding something much more powerful than mere warthogs See, it is the policy of the United Kingdom to neither confirm nor deny allegations as to where nuclear weapons were stored in country And that was definitely the case when it came to the question of nuclear weapons at Rendlesham But listen to this quote from Lord Peter Hill Norton a former UK chief defense staff and chair Of the NATO military committee. This is what he wrote concerning the Rendlesham incident All right, my position both privately and publicly expressed over the last dozen years or more as that there are only two possibilities either a An intrusion into our airspace and a landing by unidentified craft took place at Rendlesham as described

or b The deputy commander of an operational nuclear armed us air force base in England in a large number of his enlisted men All right, either hallucinating or lying But basically what he is saying is is this place was a little bit more important than anybody would like to let on Because it might have held a cache of over 500 nuclear bombs that we're going to be our first wave attack against the Soviets So the idea that these people on this base right either one of these base or a bunch of yahoos Is is like it's highly slim to none. So by this slip of the hand and from evidence we'll cover later We can infer that they're most likely were indeed

large amounts of nuclear weapons at either wood bridge bent waters or both cool And that brings us to another point about the locations of UFO sightings and why they appear in the places that they do Now some people posit that it is not a coincidence that the UFO sighting explosion Coincided with the splitting of the atom. Huh? The hypothesis is that when humanity discovered nuclear energy We entered a higher echelon of scientific knowledge and therefore merited more attention Just like humans would pay more attention to monkeys if they suddenly learned how to drive I think we've actually talked about monkey uber before I swear to god we have I'm pretty certain we have

Yes It's true. Yeah, you showed up a tube driver just a monkey in there and he's like Like points to the back of the car, you know, I'd be like I don't even even go anywhere. Just cruise Just ride my man. He's gonna put on the radio. I'm gonna sit in the front seat I'm gonna share my you mean ever gonna hit a vape together and just have a fun afternoon Absolutely

That's been the ongoing theory his reason why UFO sightings have shot up since the 1940s is that when we split the atom Right now realize that we can start to manipulate our environment on a quantum level that that's kind of the first steps towards A essentially cosmic travel towards true understanding of the nature of reality all yada yada yada And also, um, they know for a fact that we're a bunch of really angry territory obsessed monkeys And that we will probably destroy ourselves before achieving anything the likes that they have achieved Right. This is all again. This is fully nuts and bolts UFO ship, which I'm not fully sold on

But I also this is the idea that if they they them showing up as our intergalactic baby setters And maybe a correlation between all the video footage right in the advancement of technology and stuff like that also Maybe perhaps possibly but the the the the biggest sighting like the Largest swaths of sightings Happened before video technology really became Uh as ubiquitous as it is now. Cool. And you say how convenient But partially it's also maybe because of that fact. Yeah, I do not want to be videotaped Okay

Now the skeptics say that when we split the atom it just opened our imagination to new and more terrifying possibilities And that combined with cold war paranoia produced the large number of sightings seen in the 50s onward Essentially said our imaginations just kind of ran away from us sure or and that feeds into my psychic principle Which is the idea that we helped create them because it did expand our imagination It's supposed to expand our imagination. That's what it did and that's actually going to help us in the long run Yeah, and granted most UFO sightings are definitely either misidentifications or outright lies But that doesn't explain why UFOs are drawn to places either housing nuclear weapons or places powered by nuclear energy

Nor does it explain why these sightings are so goddamn dramatic This is another reason that we should invest in nuclear energy in order to avoid foreign wars and protect our environment We could have UFOs overhead constantly and that would be so fun Yeah, man We just put a couple of naked girls out there a couple of naked dudes See what they choose man just out there just like dancing around the nuclear bombs UFOs dancing back and forth. You got some fucking dj jazzy jeff going man. That's just the middle That's just the end of the first act of independence day. I want that

What if it's real? What if that was real? It was a unique idea, I guess We've covered one of these nuclear buzzes briefly in the past during the Hudson Valley UFO incident in 1984 A gigantic diamond-shaped UFO swooped the indian point nuclear power plant near peak skill new york For about 15 minutes hovering above the exhaust funnel of one of the plant's three reactors and according to employees who later talked the plant's security systems and communication systems All shut down for the time that the ufo was above it It's crazy

But right before security guards opened fire with fucking shotguns of all weapons The most useless possible long-range weapon you could find it didn't even kill dick chaney's friend It didn't even kill me. I got shot with a shotgun when I was like 10 and it was from so far Definitely closer than the ufo was. Hey, buddy. I know I'm playing division two I accidentally switched to my sniper rifle with a shotgun Horrible decision immediately dead, but I just love the immediate power of a shotgun It's why I also like crossbows like it on your hip and just fucking blam and things explode man. It's fucking awesome True

But anyway when that right before they were about to open fire the ufo flew away and everything returned to normal. Okay. Bye. Bye nerd And this hadn't been the first time something like this happened on us soil in 1973 A large glowing object was seen hovering above the monzano nuclear weapons inspection facility in new mexico A book to read is called need to know by timothy good that has an incredible breakdown of military ufo sightings over the last 50 years and this is what that is That's just a little snippet of this fucking glowing object that showed up And and it just it hovers it showed up and they watched at zappa beam where the weapons were the same thing of the several icb icbm Tours they talked about the original testings of several icbms

They would shoot up the icbm and then a fucking spear would catch up to speed next to it Do a perfect circle around it and each cardinal point on the compass it flashes white icbm falls out of the sky that's crazy And then about two years after the monzano incident a sergeant named charles l moody Claimed to have been abducted from hollum and air force base in alamogordo, new mexico Where he got rotted by a bunch of thin lipped grays Well, it could have been the russians It could have been the russians

But you but honestly for that for that story you should really read the need to know timothy a good story because it's a really good abduction Mini chapter. Okay, cool. Yeah, and those incidents don't even cover Like henry said the dozens of low-level intrusions over intercontinental ballistic missile bases Now what you might be asking here though? Why? Does this seem to happen mostly to americans? Right? Huh even rendelship to bring it back to our original subject happened to americans near american military bases Despite the location of said bases being on british soil Now the more cynical might say that americans are just a gullible people or at the very least more fanciful

Okay, could be and granted we can be we can be a very very gullible people Yeah, kind of and our imaginations can run away with us. That's why we produce some of the best entertainment in the world Absolutely. That's what we're good at. Yeah. Yeah, we make the best. We make the best entertainment in the world And um, sometimes we make massive mistakes when it comes to governing governing the country I mean we just do massive horrible things. Yeah, we followed our imagination. Yeah, but It could also be that whatever it is that controls these ufo's is more interested in us Because we were the first ones to split the fucking atom USA! USA! USA! We stole it from the germans. USA! USA!

No, we did not. We did not! No, we did not. We got help. We got help from the germans But that's uh, and you know, and I did think about that because it's the aliens aren't gonna be paying attention To individual tiny little things. They're gonna be paying attention to which government produced it. Nice. And that That makes americans both the most innovative And the most dangerous creatures on earth Whip crack whip crack. Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean they were definitely germans involved in it But mostly it was the germans that took us to the moon by the time the germans got over here Uh, world war two was already done. Uh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, thanks for taking us to the moon anyway

Thank you. Mr. Von Braun. Yeah, if it calls on some moon, there is no juice. Oh, that's not right. What was that? What was that? The director of the NASA? Nassink? You're lucky we're good at forgetting. Also, I'm fairly certain there's some anti-semitic websites who believe that uh, Jewish individuals come from the moon. It's very interesting. So I don't know if that's... It's like all nonsense is nonsense. Right. And it also might not be a coincidence that New Mexico seems to be lousy with UFO sightings and abductions Because New Mexico was the site of the very first atomic bomb detonation that trinity blast. Oh Yeah, I really love detective comics marcus parks. That's my favorite is when he actually does like because it's true I honestly this really does again. It's interesting. We're really laying out the the yellow bricks of the nuts and bolts

UFO road, right? This is the this is the these are what the the core beliefs are if that's the Nature of the phenomenon. All right, cool. So with that in mind Let's get into the stories of the sightings at Rendlesham forest and before we do it real quick I know we have a lot of Rendlesham heads out there that are listening to the show Just no what we're trying to do here is we're going to lay out the facts as we know from penis and snow book And the because if you don't know then all of this is fucking garbage to you penis and snow smoke and halts recordings We're going to all of this but know that there are many side quests Yes in this little story that we will be covering in next episode. All right. Yeah

Now while a lot of people witness UFOs in the skies on those two nights There are two dudes who actually saw this thing up close John Burroughs and Jim peniston Both solid career air force men at the time of the sighting John Burroughs was an airman first class and eventually served in the air force for 27 years Peniston was a senior security officer in charge of day-to-day base security Responsible for the war fighting resources on the base. These guys were not low level grunts. They were not Wow, jeep drivers. These guys were in charge of some big top level shit So on the night of December 26th, 1980

John Burroughs saw strange red and blue lights in Rendlesham forest outside the walls of the base While patrolling the east gate of woodbridge Now this is fucking creepy because Rendlesham forest is thick as shit. And so they're just out there if it's cold as fuck It's Christmas everybody all the regular maintenance people are off, right? So the the the bases are half full and they're just out there waiting And they just see like these fucking two ghostly lights just out in the fucking forest and they have to fucking call it That's awesome. Okay. Now considering how the lights were on top of each other and were flashing on and off It was thought that it was possible that an aircraft had crashed out in the forest

So the report was run through the proper channels. It first went to staff sergeant bud Stephens Yeah I can't get hard, but my hands are hard Bud Stephens contacted sergeant crash macaib Bud and crash are they a tag team? I literally cannot drive 55 Unfortunately to me because I have met my lots of taken away from me due to the nature of my drinking problems Oh, okay still still can fly though. That's good and crash macaib Got to hold a staff sergeant john coffee. Okay like the drink

But not spelled the same And john coffee ran it up to the on duty flight chief at woodbridge Staff sergeant jim peniston. All right Now it's important for you to know that because that's what's hard With all of these books, especially with encountered rendition for us is that they really try to Dot the eyes across the t's of every single bit of the military data So that you can know as a true ufo nerd that they have made sure that they They documented every single bit of the communication because this is how many people have to go through just to go check out these lights

Right. Okay. They have to okay it with everybody. Yeah And that's when peniston figured he'd better check on this thing himself So peniston headed out to the east gate with his driver airman first class Edward cabinsag But he's like that's like uh, I don't know how to pronounce that name. I think it's because I believe it's tie Yeah, cabin cabinsag cabinsug cabonsig. All right. All right. It's cabinsag I like it. Yeah, but when they got there Bud Stephens made a strange remark about the light

He's so they've arrived at the light at it. No, they've arrived at the east gate at the east gate Okay, they just watch these lights there. They've been watching it for a small period of time. Okay. See yeah, and I don't know why I turned into spanish Yes, I I've been watching um highly questionable on espn and it's a they say see or no Bud Stephens made this remark. He said quote It didn't crash It landed. Yeah. Oh my god. This is like a movie. Yeah And at the same time somebody over in the control tower checked the radar and placed calls to other air force bases in the area In addition to Heathrow airport in london about a hundred miles away to find out if they saw anything

Turned out a bogey had been tracked about 15 minutes before the lights out in the forest were seen But the target had disappeared from radar screens Directly over woodbridge. Whoa It showed up on the radar And the first thing they saw was a cigar smoke and then it said verbatim. It's looking at you kid And then it disappeared That's bogey Humphrey bow guard Humphrey Humphrey bow guard. I mean, it's another it's another joke that no one will get

I mean, we didn't even get it. Yeah, but I like it. I mean, I also like it. I paused Yeah to go through What it could possibly be. Yeah, and then eventually realized that it's a joke that ed asner would have made Yeah Yeah, he's he's one of the good ones an unidentified radio object. Okay, very cool. All right. God. Love it. Here's looking at you bogey And so with that in mind Peniston burrows and another guy named master sergeant chandler Started to make their way into the forest to see what they could see while the driver

Cabin sag hung back did chandler bring his duck Look I'm full of jokes Today, I don't know. I don't even know what I don't know what that's friends a friend's reference ben is full of beans today I'm full of beans today. I mean, I'm gonna get some hate mail for this But as they were approaching the lights in the forest all four of their radios Started a malfunction as if something was interfering with their communications So in order to relay messages back to the base chandler returned to cabin sag at the jeep

Huh, so now it was down to just burrows and peniston. Okay They walked further into the dark forest towards the light coming through the trees But they said the air changed as they drew closer They said it felt as if the air was crackling with static electricity and the hairs on their arms were standing on end Then it became difficult to walk normally because their legs felt like they were wading through deep water Wow, I watched a slide presentation of jim peniston from 2019 because he has a new book coming out called the rendelsham enigma And he I was watching this presentation of his but he was talking about and he tried to show He's like an all show you're out now

It was difficult for me to walk It was like walking through soup and he tried to show he's like because it's not like now How I can lift my knees and he lifted his leg up maybe an inch It's like it was difficult for me to lift my knees and they could see I was struggling wading through the soup Interesting, but now they weren't walking through water. They weren't walking through anything. It was just normal ground Just walking through the forest. Wow Then finally they came to the source of light in a small clearing When they walked towards the object. They said they were blinded by a silent sudden

explosion of light Both men instinctively hit the ground, but when they felt no debris and heard no debris falling they stood back up By the reports of jim peniston They were faced with a small triangular metal craft about nine feet tall by nine feet wide Resting on three legs kind of like how the lunar landing module looked cool And the way they described it is it had rounded edges, right? It had this and he said he's it had a dorsal fin and it had two wings And he looked at it

He said what the one of the weirdest things about it is that it was coursing with what he called globular light He said it's the only way to make he's trying to describe what it looked like He said The closest that you could call it is like a lava lamp Was that the the actual Outsides of it had the blue and red and yellow Like kind of floating through it like it was a glass filled with liquid Was it tangible the was the was it actually a tangible light? Okay, we'll get into that

Now on the side was a bank of blue lights and on top was a bright white light But as we hear again and again with ufo sightings it made no sound whatsoever But peniston was curious so we walked closer When retelling the story peniston refers to the area immediately around the ufo as the bubble field He said that once he entered it all ambient noise Sees to exist as if the air around him was dead and the static electricity got stronger He said he tried to turn and yell for john burrows who was only about 10 feet behind him But he found that john was standing motionless and didn't react to his calls in any way whatsoever

Straight up burrows was just standing and staring at this object as the lights were bouncing off of him Peniston turns back and he says the only way to describe it is that he felt the thing calm down Like it was the light slowed until it became a black object And now what he said in his mind at the time was that i'm just about to die This is a weapon whatever this is he's like this is obviously not a crash He calls in he have to change the parameters to helping hands and the term helping hands Over at that time period, which is there's something that is about to affect the safety and the uh I believe the working quality of the base something that term where's like this is going to fuck us up

This is a weapon, but he wasn't sure if the radio was getting through So he pulled out his notebook and started making notes and then approached the vehicle because he was like if i'm gonna die I need to document this Helping hands also sounds like the off menu at a massage parlor Like all of the helping hands please So once peniston got near the object he saw strange symbols etched on the side, which were totally Unrecognizable apart from a passing resemblance to egyptian hieroglyphs. Wow cool He said he felt relieved when he saw the symbols because he's like, okay. This is something

Yeah, for now. I think for a second. He's like i'm going insane. Right. They saw the symbols. He's like All right now this has to come from somewhere then. Yeah, right and it's also not a bomb if they put symbols on the side You should look at did you see any of these symbols kissle? No, I actually didn't see any of those It's pretty fucking cool. Awesome. I mean it's alien writing. That's so cool Yeah, then peniston decided to actually touch the damn thing He said the surface felt hard and smooth like running your hand over glass, but the symbols were rough like sandpaper But when peniston touched the symbols the white light on top of the craft became so bright That peniston was temporarily blinded and when he took his hand back the light dimmed once more cool

Then peniston just kind of stood there for a while like taking it all in making sketches doing sketches of fucking everything Like trying to document what was happening by then he realized that he wasn't gonna die Yeah, all right. Well, I'm not gonna die. So now I really have to do it So he paced the whole thing he's just like he does his whole like tall man math where he was like I'm six foot three. I've got a three and a half foot stride I did three strides each. That's as exact as it gets folks and the whole moof on audience is like Yes, so he literally set up an easel put up a little canvas and started painting like bob ross Yeah, just trying to see like he had a little uh police notebook that he carried around with him always and he was like

Yeah, and a pencil and he just sketched all of it down interesting and finally though the craft slowly began to lift off the ground And everything felt as if it was moving in slow motion Then after about two to three minutes the craft finally rose above the trees Then once it had cleared the trees without making any sound whatsoever It flew away at an impossible speed. In fact, this is the note peniston made in his notebook quote spade Impossible impossible speed I mean that's speed four. That's a great name for the movie. Yeah, that's awesome. Impossible speeds. No speed

Impossible. Oh, I like that very cool. But here's the strange thing Remember john burrows was standing only 10 feet behind jim peniston But he remembers the incident Completely differently although he so maintains that he saw something Burrows claimed that after the initial blinding flash of light came he hit the ground And saw a red oval sun-like object in the clearing. He saw no craft whatsoever Huh? And instead of the close encounters experience had by peniston burrows said his experience lasted only a few seconds

Strange or at least that's what he claimed later. Oh, yeah No, when he gave his original statement about the incident 72 hours afterward He included a sketch of the craft that looked a hell of a lot like penistons. So he was sketching also from his Recollection okay from his memory. Oh, I see from his memory. Okay. Now, although he may have just been going along to get along Which is difficult because peniston which we'll talk about peniston took full weight of talking to the superiors Okay, so he said when they were all freaking out afterwards, they were all like, what are we going to say to our bosses? And he's like you're not going to say anything. I'm going to say something Okay, he he went forward and it took all the blame

So I don't know if going along to get along even works for that because he already was to blame Like they were they were they were on peniston. They didn't need to back them up. But what's he being blamed for? Just just just seeing some of them crazy, right? Right. Sure. But this this story it's it's very very interesting We'll talk about this. This is where it gets woo-wee-woo. Okay, we're steady being like what happens if our brain is an operating system And an entity is like a program that shows up in front of you What if it's like a thing and that you? Interpret it the way you interpret it and everybody's seeing shit and feelings. Yeah, couldn't I I mean I could see my brain Just totally shutting down

Yeah, like when you see something that like what oftentimes they say when you have an extreme trauma Like when your bone pops through the skin like what happened with paul george You your brain literally shuts off and you're like you can't remember this because this really is too much for you to handle shock shock yeah Yeah, absolutely shock and you know and to take it even further With what hinting shit about the operating system, you know if our brain is an operating system and these things are programs You know, you can't run say a mac program on a pc can't run a pc program on a mac So some brains are able to run these programs

Others are not interesting and there's obviously a last podcast theory and another people's theories as well Of the that believe this about the psychic nature of ufo's so take that as you will Oh, yeah, I mean, I know there are gonna be people that are gonna roll their eyes and say Whatever about the operating system conversations Yeah, they're plenty of people out there that are just just fine with believe in the humans or just a bunch of walking Shitbags walking around Oh Plenty of people say oh just do just had just let's just talk about killing people and all that but you know what some of us

Like to be curious about the mysteries of the universe very good Some of us think that there might be a little bit more out there. I don't know why I don't know why you guys have made yourself defensive Because there is no one listening nor out there that is just like we're we better go give these guys a wedgie immediately It is a disease that ufologists get You just become you just slowly no matter it's like you talking to conversational tone on all of a sudden it says you think you know me I think what it comes from is you know because I like to look at both sides And I type in the incident and then I type in skeptic and the people who write Skeptical responses to UFO incidents

Are the snoddiest people on earth? And because they always they're very Fond of the phrase so much for that No, no, no, but that's physically snot not emotionally snot Well either way depending on you know, but no matter what penitents are what borough saw Both men said that they saw a light above them after the flash Flying around and it eventually flew away over the coast out east

Then they looked down at the ground and found that there were three indentations where the craft had been Now remember this was december so the ground was frozen solid But the indentations were deep enough where it was obvious something very heavy had been resting there And those three indentations formed a near perfect equilateral triangle cool Furthermore branches have been snapped off from the trees on the edges of the clearing where the craft had landed and taken off Including branches from way up high. Yeah, and there's tree rubbins. Yeah, that's the term I kept seeing was tree rubbins tree rubbins Tree rubbins. Okay, in other words if they're telling the truth

Some real weird shit had just happened. Yeah Yeah, but what was really weird was what they discovered when they returned to cabins sag and shandler By the reckoning of boroughs peniston and their watches They'd only been out of radio contact for five maybe ten minutes But in reality they'd been gone 45 minutes. Whoa And what was more both of their watches were running 45 minutes slow Oh, yep, that is great. So we have lost time. We have lost time and not just lost time

But time that is manipulated mechanics What so we have the actual touching of a spacecraft scene of a spacecraft drawings of a spacecraft lost time I mean, this is this is pretty much everything you need. This is what we love. Yeah This is why we're covering this case It literally this is this is the this was the weirdest shit because they came back just being like Why are you like acting like they were literally just sitting in the truck like they had been gone for 45 minutes They're like we just left and they're like no you were gone for almost an hour. Wow Yeah, and they'd also been calling back to the base and because the base was checking up on them and saying like

Where the hell are these guys and they say they're in current investigation They're trying to push off the bosses Because the bosses are really like what the fuck's happening because they'd have to scramble more people if there's a real emergency Right, they died Right, right and furthermore When these guys were debriefed they found they weren't the only ones who saw weird shit that night Now some say the what the witnesses outside of peniston and burrows saw that night was actually the breakup of a russian satellite Or a meteor shower and both are on record for having occurred that night in the south of england

Well, how would it go back up to into the sky though? Well, that's the thing. It's possible. Yeah Well, I'm good. I don't know. Huh? It's the thing is that it's possible that that is what some of the people saw Some of the people who reported seeing things in the sky that night Probably saw a meteor shower or they saw the breakup of the russian satellite But that doesn't explain what peniston and burrows experienced right nor does it explain the lights Inside the forest that they went to go investigate in the first place Nor does it explain the bogey on the radar and where was lauren bacall? Well, that's that's a question we could ask every second of every day

But no, it's it it is it's interesting Yeah Part of it comes from the Misdating that peniston did on his notebook and he said there was a true mistake An other say was purposeful Uh, he was lying saying that he was essentially lying about the entire thing, which is weird But I feel like maybe it might have been a mistake. I don't know But that's because they on the night in question the 26th is the night all this happening was when these two other

Uh aerial phenomena were also happening when at 27th. It was not when it comes to him line I guess everyone will be like did he make a lot of money? Did he get famous was his career? And I'm sure we'll cover this but was his career Helped by this did he make money with this? Or is it like more traditional peniston total? It's highly embarrassing Okay, so that kind of debunks the idea that maybe he wanted to benefit from it financially. No, okay No, and furthermore there was another actual incident that night that wasn't just lights in the sky Two more personnel reported lights in the forest and when they went out to investigate

A white light heading gulfed their jeep and the jeep completely stalled out and they couldn't get it to start again Wow Now what's interesting about this incident is that for jurisdictional and legal reasons The americans were required to notify british authorities that they were going off base to investigate a possible crash Interesting. Now. Well, you'd think they'd be calling the british military or some such who they actually called in this situation when they left the base Was the local cops? Okay. Yeah, so they're gonna take the billy clubs to it. Yeah All right, uh local constable. Yeah, exactly

And here's what the local police wrote in their logs as to what happened that night quote We have had a call from the le at bedwaters in reference to the ufo reported last night We have found a place where craft of some sort seems to have landed Oh, I do feel like he's got a little like a napkin Sound like they're always eating lobster. Yeah or a big bangers and mash. Oh, yeah Um, I'm actually excited for the uk food. I think I'm gonna do beans this time. Do the fill do the full english I'm actually gonna do it. Full english is great. Yeah, don't understand it. It's a good way to start your day just full of shit It's like beans and bread for breakfast triple bees and a tomato and a tomato great

So by the next morning the whole thing had become a bit of a joke on the base already Yeah, already, of course. Oh, yeah, dude all night because as soon because they were like where were they? They were out for an hour chasing UFOs. So everybody's fucking flipping out and having a great time about the about the shenanigans That happened the night before okay, and you gotta remember. I mean, this is 1980 air force base in england like it is cold war paranoia, so everyone is both on high alert and extraordinarily bored at the same time right, right, right And the joke vibe was what colonel charles halt walked into at 5 a.m. When he reported for duty A sergeant crash mccabe told halt that peniston and burrows have been out chasing UFOs all night

And halt was actually all about playing the whole thing down He suggested they use the term unexplained lights in the official report instead of saying UFOs because you don't want Shit to get out of hand right charles halt is a very serious human being at this point in time He's never smiled in a single picture, right? I've been reading the halt perspective written by charles halt It's called the halt perspective It sounds like you lost a job on fox news to bill o'reilly I'm pitching to show the halt perspective. What is your perspective? I hate my grandson There's too many starbucks and coffee is too proud and that's the halt perspective

uh, charles halt Wrote a 500 page entire breakdown of UFOs around the rendition force like he went completely nuts But it you when you watch when you read this what what happens afterwards? We'll get into more in the second episode right charles halt believes He truly is the main player of this entire story. So he but he is also a believer that there was a ufo here Oh, yeah, he became one interesting. Okay very interesting Yeah, he became one and even though like kind of the rank and file of the base They were all treating this as a joke the higher ups were taking it much more seriously really

Almost immediately documents concerning the incident specifically security blotters and incident and complaint reports were polled and classified as secret By base commander ted conrad. All right What was weird about this was that it completely bypassed carnal halt carnal halt should have been involved in these sorts of actions And as far as he was concerned the documents had pretty much been stolen from under his nose Huh, I can literally just see charles halt who's probably about two inches shorter than me Just like jumping for files To like other officers are just throwing above him to each other and leaving and he'd be like That's not fair. That's not fair

I'm the one that went down there. I want down there and I sold it out for myself That's how he sounds. It's very strange accent Maybe he's uh, massachusetts. Perhaps he's a bostonian. Yeah, it sounds like it Yes, and there was some attempt at investigation But the problem was that the air force had no standard operating procedure for the investigation of a ufo incursion on or near a military base That's interesting 1980. I would have thought they would have had some um protocol for unidentified flying objects We scrapped it in 1969. We stopped officially. We stopped officially investigating Stop who's swish swish quotation marks swish swish swish. We stopped officially investigating ufo's

Then when we stopped project blue book. So all of those The standard operating procedures all that shit. It was been thrown out Because there's not supposed to be standard operating interesting Now one dude major edward drury thought that the whole thing had been a christmas prank Oh, man. I love christmas prank. There was one time My cousin robert did this really funny christmas prank where he was deployed overseas, right? And he wanted to surprise his family. So he came in and he showed up like he addressed himself in a big box For christmas like a big bow on top of it and the family was like, you know, my cousins so excited to see him

They didn't know you know, I mean like he was coming home for christmas And then when he popped out of the box the problem is that he had some kind of like flashback or something And he killed his whole family That was like the craziest christmas prank. That is yeah I wasn't aware that pranks on christmas was a thing but I was not aware christmas pranks were a thing either Oh, yeah, man. No, that's you over christmas. All we do is we dress up as saying I break into people's homes I tell them i'm leaving presents tonight. Just shit. I just shit all over the living room

Right. Yeah, I mean because your kids were bad I guess so But after debriefing peniston and burrows and hearing that something had come up on radar that night Drury figured there might be something to this incident So a bunch of guys went out to the site took photographs and such But they kind of figured that was going to be the end of it But the next night on december 27th the ufo's returned This is fucking so sweet, this is the best part is it like because also it's a christmas story

Yeah, everything is around christmas. So it's all this shit like they're literally doing that In the bells in the bells Like they have like fucking santa hats on they're all getting fucking hammered on eggnog and the shit's going down Now the night of the second sighting was set to be a relaxing evening of r&r Because that was the night of the combat support group awards dinner and yeah at an on base bar called woody's That was located naturally on the wood bridge base. I love it. Oh my god, that would be so much fun so much fun It's kind of cool. They set it up like a little town. It's kind of like like Auschwitz Where they set up a city town where they lived in but I mean, that's the only thing I can compare it to

You can compare it to I don't know if it's the best comparison I can compare it to I don't know the fucking military base that my uncle and his family lived on when I was a kid It's all military bases are like this. They have a bar. They have a px. They have all kinds of shit And they are little towns. Okay. I don't know You're correct. I'm not allowed in the military. I have blood clots But just as they were getting into the swing of things that night Lieutenant Bruce england who was on duty and sober Came inside looking shaken. He took colonel halt aside and told him that the ufo had returned

Oh, and so halt who was also sober. Well, you're really stressing the sober thing. Are they are you sure? You have to because that's like, well, you know, they they had a christmas party that night So so much for that theory. It's like, yeah, they were not all of them were blasted. Okay, great Some of them were not all of them were I actually would trust the drunk person more than the sober person in this Because the drunk person is going to run right up to the plane tackle it, rassle around with it, bring it back to the barracks It doesn't need to be like they're tailgating at a packers game I don't know for you to get substantial evidence about ufo's. You got to be clearheaded. Okay. Yeah, be annoyingly clearhead. All right. All right

So halt decided to check it out first He assembled a team of sober men and called up sergeant Monroe Neville's and master sergeant bobby balls No, I never mind. It's his name is actually bobby ball. Bobby balls is a typo on my part It would really be nice if I did have two testicles, but unfortunately i'll be bobby ball I'll be bobby ball And I try to refer normally as a basketball because people hate hearing a man have not having two balls They respect me less. Yeah, but yeah, no, he actually got the entire group from Revenge and the nerds together Right to go out and look at these ufo's because it was the only sober people at the christmas party. Yeah, interesting

Yeah, bobby and Monroe. I love it. All right Now one of the first things halt wanted done was to set up a bunch of lightalls lightalls There's essentially a flood lights on wheels that you can use to watch the skies. Okay, but the lightalls weren't working Now some say that they were just out of gas and some of them certainly were but not all of them Some of them just weren't working just like the radios hadn't worked a couple nights before Of course the base was getting fired up partly because they were getting a little action in the middle of a boring cold war standoff and partly because Admittedly a lot of them were half in the bag from the christmas party

Of course You know for a fact that him and the nerd squad are trying to set up these lightalls And they're just throwing bottles of beer at them and like they're like they're shaking whiskey at them being like Yeah, fucking get your gay ufo's nerds Well, they're like they're all just really be like this is about the integrity of the base One dude is just like hey, Tommy look at this takes off all of his clothes tuxes penis between his legs and just goes Sprances out in front of the sober group of alien I guess I'm an alien

Alien You boys want to probe me reverse alien charles. Hope you like that's very serious. This is a serious time and this is military Exponentials Well halt was not one of those men. He was not one of the drunk ones. In fact halt was meticulous So he took a handheld tape recorder everywhere He went to record his thoughts and observations kind of like as nick poke points out dale cooper Oh, yes, of course So after halt gave the order to refill the lightalls or to do whatever the fuck needed to be done to get him working

He and his team headed out to the original landing site Although we don't really know Why they went to the original landing site. They didn't see the lights over there. They just kind of instinctively went over there Well, we don't know we don't know why they went out there the answer though might be on one of halt's tapes 18 minutes of halts recordings from that night are available to the public, but according to an interview halt did 1999 He actually made four to five hours of tapes on december 27th 1980 Yes, which shows that obviously what we're getting is a highly curated version of these events Yeah, highly curated is a hell of a nice way of putting redacted of saying redacted. Wow

No, but when asked to elaborate on what those tapes contained halt refused to comply Saying that most likely the public would never hear what was recorded Hey, hey, uh, get out of the way guy with his penis between his legs. You're not an alien. We're No, you're not an alien. Get me. I'm an alien buddy. You're not gonna feel so happy when you wake up at 5 a.m Hung over and I'm making you do a hundred push-ups. Okay I'm an alien and I hear some dumb police officer So in other words, we just got to make do with what we have here Wow

Now the first part of the tape as they arrive to the landing site is pretty standard Just them using a geiger counter to inspect the area But then they found something Intriguingly radioactive directly below the craft's landing site Hmm A small blast what looks like a blasted or Scrubbed up area here. We've got very positive greens. See is that here the center? Yes, it is This is what we're doing. We've got a dead center. Just think about all this going off all the way

Up to seven tenths or seven Seven units that's going on a point five scale Wow, that's so they are they're acting as if I mean they seem to be Acting authentically surprised very or just intrigued at the very least Now what nick pope claims that is that this reading seven tenths is 10 times what the normal radiation should be And is therefore proof that a ufo landed on this exact site But on this point

We have to go with the skeptics Yes, well, this is It's interesting because people love the concept of ufos and radiation that radiation is the smoking gun And then you got to get radiation if there there there's something about it's like what they also the way they take Uh hypnotic regression very very seriously where they they believe this is the evidence you got to have But we don't really know how the hell these things work. I don't know like they say they they're just looking for anything that seems to prove Scientifically well, is that radiation is is the way to show that ufo showed up Is there any chance that because it's a nuke site or potentially a nuke site that the radiation would be higher?

Well, I don't know for one it's obvious from the recording that this was a spike and not a steady reading Which that that spike could have been anything from environmental radiation to a malfunction of the needle If it was an actual radioactive site, they would have gone Oh That sounds like a fun bubble lawn mower Yeah, started up, but it didn't it was just one that it was just one single spike But it could have gone it could have gone I don't know it's surprisingly peaceful. It is a shockingly peaceful sound

I think I want you to record that on loop for 30 minutes and I'll just go to sleep listening ASMR but it means you're slowly getting radiation poison. Oh, I see. All right Well, furthermore, they were using the wrong type of Geiger counter to test for background radiation Meaning the readings they were taking were utterly useless. These are the sober ones. Yeah, these are the sober ones No, however, just because the radiation is a bust does not mean that this entire incident is debunked Okay. In fact, the debunkers may have ended up supporting one of our positions with their due diligence You played into our hands Yes, I'm Henry debunker. This is my wife Harriet debunker. They were the debunker family. It's because we're mostly but

See the debunkers figured out what kind of Geiger counter the men in the field were using and it turns out That Geiger counter was more suited to monitoring major nuclear accidents Such as the kind that might happen at a place that stores nuclear weapons Cool now it could be this Geiger counter was standard issue to every air force facility during the cold war You don't know. Sure. Maybe but you don't find basketballs on a football field. Okay, my friend. I can't tell you might Someone might have brought a basketball to a football field. It's still sports You might not find a pool net at a football field. I don't think you would find it. That's a whole nother story But you know, even if you know, these are at every single place

It's nonetheless interesting that this facility in particular had this particular piece of equipment cool Sure, but back to the landing site This next clip is lieutenant england describing what he was seeing concerning marks on the trees as he and the other men Inspected the area in question I've never seen a pine tree as the damage reactor on this model to put that in They're taking soil samples here, right? Of the of the indentations of the three triangular indentations Yes, where the where the UFO supposedly landed and they're noticing the tree rubbings. So we have so we have

So we have them. This is great. Yeah, so they are like legitimately in real time Expressing exactly what they're seeing. Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah, and as you can hear, although they stay professional These men are steadily growing more and more concerned, right, right then using night vision The men started finding hot spots like spots that were literally Still warm well on the ground on the ground and on the trees. Wow It's 32 degrees outside that's a part of it that was like this it's winter time So it is very strange for this heavily packed soil to have heat radiating out radiating out from Somewhere the bottom of it, right? I mean it does beg the question. Do the aliens know it's christmas?

I don't know. No, that is does it matter if they don't celebrate exactly like I mean, that's my thing That is really awesome Compelling audio though crazy. All right, dude, and there's still so much more to go Then very suddenly they started hearing noises from some of the nearby farms or at least from the surrounding wildlife The animals are freaking out like there's now something happening We're now the that whatever the event is is starting to freak out all animals Which is a common occurrence during a UFO any sort of incident right right awesome I mean how important is animal reaction and I'm not like be like because obviously when the storms come in the birds

No, like but how important is that when you have animals be like yo some shit is going on here And we're not I mean no one is ever going to be convinced that a That some bizarre wolf is a conspiracy theorist on aliens during skinwalker ranch We saw that they use dogs as their bio readers They use them as a the because they do experience certain levels of I don't know if it's either They can they can hear more things that we know they're more tuned to their natural instincts They could see a little bit more of the electromagnetism in the world I'm not really sure how that works, but they do freak out when weird shit happens

All right for all of our palm iranian listeners out there shoot us a dm Let us know what you think But also yeah, and wendy just freaks out. Um did anybody walk past the window? Of course Yeah, and then they saw the light When I switch off I think it's done now it was approximately 120 degrees Is it back again? Yes, sir. Oh, that's right It's not about the edge of the tearing so I can get a better look at it. See if you can get the star scope on it

All right, it's still there and all the binary animals have gotten quiet now Yeah, we're having about 110 120 degrees from the side. I threw to the clearing now It's still getting reading on the meter about two clicks Three to four clicks getting stronger Now that part of the tape we just played is a big point of contention when it comes to the debunkers They say that the light halt and the other men saw at this point in the tape was just a lighthouse off the coast And when they're talking about that light in particular The debunkers might be right the lighthouse in question shines at five second intervals and the spot in the tape where they say

It's gone. Oh wait. It's back again That's exactly five seconds in length. Okay, but that doesn't explain what happened next. Okay, listen to this Very very strange I do like that they reacted the exact same way all of us would just be like, oh, yeah, it's weird Like the fuck What the charles is seeing Is that this red light that appeared to be back behind the trees? Uh-huh. They're seeing this thing is now weaving its way Through the trees. Wow. So in the way that we described it, it was it looked like an eye a giant red eye with a black center

And a big red ring around it And what's weird is the fact that it's coasting around and it's shooting off Sparks it's shooting off these little driblets off to the side Which if you saw the uh live show for last podcast and left last year I showed some footage of a ufo like a globular style ufo Shit now the thing sat at the back of it and it was doing the same exact thing Interesting and you can get our live show from last year. You can still get it on last podcast live.com It's still only six dollars and 66 cents

So we can't wait to see everybody on the road for this year's live show But if you want a little taste watch last year's good plug. So this is really this is some of the most compelling audio I've ever heard. Yeah for sure. And the other thing about the lighthouse It's not like the lighthouse just happened to be turned on for Christmas. This thing was going constantly So they would have known if it was the lighthouse all night. I feel like that is my opinion Yes, they would have known The difference between the lighthouse and other lights Right on like around and then the fact that they're saying weird and the fact that it was red

And like I think that's the the the three dimensional quality is what kicks in here Is that they see this shit begin to approach and do a little dance for them. Yeah, and these were air force men It's not like they never looked at this fucking sky. I mean the lighthouse was a known quantity It could have been like just once or twice. They saw the lighthouse But you know the this is something that was a static object in their environment. Yeah, I mean, I don't think a lighthouse resembles a A strange detached hemorrhoid coming towards you. Unless it's a cool as fuck lighthouse Maybe cool to have like a goth lighthouse where it's all black and it shines in real life But I feel like which is what a goth lighthouse would want which is just destroy as many ships as possible

Yeah, that wouldn't really work and the lighthouse theory definitely doesn't explain what happened at the end of the tape Listen to this The base Down to the ground man. I think he's Pittsburgh. I think that's what that is But yeah, man, that's fucking freaky Yeah, they saw some shit Yeah, I think about how collected you have to be as a military person to be able to see this thing Like shoot a little light and not be like

Right, right. It's almost like they're not moof on investigators and they were actually trained by competent Militant minds. I am trained by the best teacher possible, which is me Well later halt said the light and question was pencil thinned like a laser and it struck a point on the ground Just 10 feet in front of them Then the ufo flew right above wood bridge and shown a light Directly down to the base, which is a show of strength five or fucking hurt one. Yeah You're like, look what I can do Look what I can do and you can't do anything that I love that about ufos when it's because they talk about

Ideas that the presence of these things that they acknowledge your presence. They are communicating with you So it's just showing you being like what can you do? You can even shoot shotguns at me the last guy tried that Right, nothing. They just all hurt each other and still that wasn't the only thing that happened that night While these guys were off in the woods John Burroughs from a couple of nights before was having a second encounter Geez when he heard the ufo was back He'd high-tailed it back to the base because burroughs claimed that he was inexplicably drawn to the craft And at first halt had told his men to keep burroughs the fuck away from the landing site

But eventually he and a man named sergeant adrian bastenza were given by jason alexander Very talented very talented He was given permission to approach one of the lights to see if he could confirm or deny that this was indeed the same craft But as they were driving towards the light in a jeep a streak of blue transparent light came streaking towards him Followed by a white object that floated in the distance Then when they got out of the jeep to walk towards it the light started coming towards them Uh-oh bastenza hit the ground but burroughs But burroughs kept walking forward eventually he disappeared into the light and was gone for several minutes before reappearing

Whoa Again, he had no recollection of what happened and had missing time when he walked out But this did add another fairly close-up witness to the phenomenon bringing the number of people who saw something that night to about 60 60 Military dudes 60 military guys. You saw this shit, but the sightings are only half the story The other half is the inevitable cover-up

Which we'll cover on the rendelsham forest ufo incident part two awesome That's not only the cover-up. We're also going to cover the ways specific members of this this entire incident And people they were affected by it how they went completely fucking insane right? We'll talk about like the the there's a lot more here We're going to talk a little bit about binary code. We're going to talk about some people got scooped We're going to talk about a crazy person named larry warren that just some kind of insinuates himself into the story Somewhere in the mid 90s where he just all of a sudden I was there too There's a lot of those guys that will show up in this story But man, I was the one who took my penis between the legs. I was the one who did that. That was me. I was I was doing that

Um, wow awesome. This is without a doubt the best, uh, ufo encounter we've ever covered I think anyway, it is compelling. Yeah, it's awesome. The audio is just so kick-ass because it's chilling It really is what it shows that the these guys really did The the aftermath too it shows that whatever happened. They saw some shit I don't know what the hell is going on and and then we'll also go through all the various ways Whether or not this is a hoax next episode too because there were several people that said that this was some kind of prank There were people on christmas prank. Yeah, one of those classic christmas pranks. We all know about yeah robert my cousin robert He killed his whole family. Yeah happens in a prank

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