Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 371: Bonnie and Clyde Part III - Filthy, Smelly, and Surly
Episode Date: June 29, 2019On the conclusion to our series on Bonnie and Clyde, we cover the blood-soaked bad times and the hunt by legendary lawman Frank Hamer that finally took down America's favorite criminal celebrity coupl...e.
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There's no place to escape to this is the last talk on the left
So
Pied Barrow they said had a bit of a
Psychic impulse right kind of had like he had a cop sense six cents
Yeah, like spider-man when he said that's kind of how he got them out of a bunch of mixes
And he would like he would have like a hunch that something hanky was going on and he'd get out of there like spider-ham
I'm just glad you have one spider-man reference
Which is great, but the thing is that Clyde Barrow at the same time was also not very smart
No, right, so he was not smart, but he was psychically smart
Does that mean the mentally handicapped could possibly be the most psychic group of people in the world, and we don't know
Handicapped professor Xavier was brilliant. He ran a school. He had a wheelchair
Which is totally
Everything you ruin your whole career
We don't ask no one answered my question though, I think no, okay
Oh, I don't know no nonetheless. Everyone is handy capable. That's what I say great the last podcast on the left
I am Bennett Kissel with Marcus Parks. Hello, and we have Henry Zabrowski as well
Hungry Jack Henry Zabrowski need. Yeah, you're hungry Jack Henry Zabrowski. I'm home of the whopper
You farted on a cheeseburger and sold it to customers. I definitely farted in my pants just now
It's fun. Yeah, we're in close space. Yeah, we're in an enclosed space in Sydney, Australia
We're recording Bonnie and Clyde part three from a studio in Sydney. Yes, it's absolutely beautiful
We're looking out of this gorgeous streets of Sydney
Everyone looks great handsome bodies. You know, this is you know a place that is it's really work
We're very comfortable here because all the music is made for middle-aged white men
It really is so we actually feel right at home. I think we're just going to places where middle-aged white men hang out
That is why no one else is there. Yeah, I understand. Well speaking of well, no, no, there's really no segue here
Um, we are on to part three of Bonnie and Clyde the tale continues
This is when this shit gets fo real. Yeah
So when we last left Bonnie and Clyde
They just left Joplin, Missouri after their first real shootout with the cops the pictures that made them famous had been released to the world and
Buck and Blanche Barrow were now a permanent part of the gang because of their involvement in the murders in Joplin
That's how we got Mary and Travis to work with us for so long is because they are sort of a party to our secret crimes
Interesting. Well technically doesn't that mean they can blackmail us whenever they want? Oh fuck. Yeah. Oh fuck
Well as a result of those actions the Barrow gang was about to enter one of the most miserable and difficult times of their very short lives
Gone were the days when they could stay at a motor court wearing clothes that were freshly dry-cleaned every day
Yeah, we're we're past the Rockstar area. We are now into Vince Neil
240 pounds and the on the floor of a La Quinta with a needle hanging out his arm
All right, we're in sex sex tape Vince Neil territory. Hey, that was a new peak for him. Was it? Yeah, you heard him fucking stick it
He had enough juice to at least make it to come. You know I mean well now Bonnie Clyde
WD Blanche and Buck slept in the car and bathed in muddy streams eating mostly canned food like Vienna sausages
The only thing you're eating for those of you who don't know what Vienna sausages are they are horrible tasting tiny weenies in a can
That's what we're all right now
We really are I'm gonna I'll I'll support them. I'll support them. I like spam and I like I'm
I'm not gonna say I like Vienna sausages, but if it was like between eating Vienna sausages and like saving a whole like a
Packet of my cum to eat for the protein. I need the Vienna sausages
No one thinks about that when you're like starving and naked and afraid. We've just eat your cum
That's protein. Wow. Well, I don't know if that really no, I don't know if that works. I don't know
I'm not sure
Well furthermore the dust ball was far from over even a small dust storm encountered while driving in a car was enough to fill a
Person's mouth with dirt and that's with the windows up and the Barrow Gang was driving through those dust storms on a regular basis
Damn now other criminals on the run during this time had safe houses when things got hot
But those were the big-timers despite Bonnie and Clyde celebrity status
They didn't really know any other criminals outside of West Dallas yet. No, they needed to know real
indoctrinated criminals like senators and
That could actually help you that's where they ever was all the dirty money that the rest of them would spread around you tip off
The cops in order to protect the safe house for you and then you have a place to go where Bonnie and Clyde
We're doing it the DIY way, right?
Which is like what we've learned is that you know, you do it hard for a really do the hard way
Yeah, for many years right and sucks. Yeah, no one even cares. No, that is really interesting though with them when it comes to the
Safe houses, I've been playing a lot of division too
And I gotta say they need to set up those safe houses so they can fast travel
Specifically if there's a dust storm, they're just going when I hit fast travel. It's kind of avoid the whole thing
Well the closest Bonnie and Clyde could come was when they found someone either
sympathetic or
Star-struck enough to let them stay at their house, but the gang never stayed longer than a night because the reward for their capture
Just kept getting bigger
Do you think that if we just came to Australia and went through the outback and just showed up and just been like where the lost podcast game?
Yeah, this is Marcus gobbling feet parts and this is kiss a long beer kissal me
I'm Henry brain of the game. It seems like damn near every day
The Barrow gang had to steal a new car especially since there was now five of them on the run together
After two weeks crammed in one car though
The gang figured it was time to steal a second car and form a small caravan
Okay, so in Rustin, Louisiana the Barrow gang roared in a town and wd
Hopped out and stole a car belonging to a mortician named Dillard Darby
Who was so memorably played by Gene Wilder in the 1967 movie?
I was so heartened to learn that this was real. Yeah, but I was too. I loved it
Yeah, it was Gene Wilder's first role was playing this guy. No kidding. Wow
Well sorta like the movie Darby and his friend a local radio celebrity named Sophia Stone
Oh, she was the fart woman of middle, Texas
Ever somebody say be like, oh, it's look turns out it's gonna rain on Friday
Original shock shock. Wow. She's the best
Darby and Stone saw the whole thing happen
So they hopped in Sophia's car and chased after the Barrow gang so they are ballsy man
But it wasn't long before Clyde who was already a little irritated the operation hadn't gone smoothly
Turned around and started following them. He eventually caught up. Yeah, he's a short angry man
I don't mean I don't understand. I certainly have never done anything purposefully vengeful
Because of my just my blood pressure
No, you're not gonna end up like Michael Douglas in the movie falling down shooting up a fast-food restaurant because the burger isn't right
You're not gonna do that. No, the encounter wasn't quite as cute as it was portrayed in the movie
After Clyde forced Darby and Sophia off the road and asked why they were following them Darby said he was following them because they stole his car
Yeah
In response Clyde pistol whip Darby
Yeah
And forced him and Sophia into the car the Barrow gang was driving because WD had already taken off and Diller Darby's car at this point
Yeah, so now we split up. Yeah, you remember WD. How old is WD at this point? 16. So he's a child
Yeah, and they are now they all are now crammed together and are going 90 miles per hour through the fucking
Dusty fields away from just nowhere from nowhere to nowhere. I mean honestly, this is the greatest generation
I mean the teeny these guys are babies. Yeah, we couldn't pull this stuff off
So the new hostages squeezed into the front with Bonnie and Clyde because the gang had so many guns in the back seat from a
Recent armory burglary that only Buck and Blanche could fit in the back
I mean, I guess we could put a blanket over him or something. Actually, let him just beat out and open
Yeah, it's just sleeping on a bunch of guns in the back of a car that you just stole
I get the excitement factor of this now first Stone and Darby were terrified
The gang was filthy smelly and surly from being on the road for pretty much two weeks straight and Buck was getting pretty
Casual with suggestions that maybe the gang should just kill the hostages. This must be fucking insane. Yeah
You're just like maybe miles an hour with some 22-year-old psychopath just jabbering on it. Maybe we should kill him. Maybe we should kill him now
Maybe we should kill him tonight. It's like bouncing up and down going 90 miles an hour where we're like Clyde's like
Filthy smelly and surly is one of the best Wayland Jennings songs I have ever heard and I love it
I stand by it
But Clyde calmed down the situation by telling the hostages that yes
You have been kidnapped by the infamous Bonnie and Clyde, but you'll be just fine just so long as you don't act a fool
Okay
And that is when Bonnie started making small talk asking the hostages what they did for a living when Darby told her that he was a
Mortician Bonnie laughed and asked if he'd like to be the official embalmer of Bonnie and Clyde when they were killed that was so much fun
That is amazing. You could just do that then
Yeah, maybe some come around see me sometime when I'm a corpse
So when the Barrow gang finally let the hostages go in Waldo, Arkansas
Everyone was pretty much friends and Clyde even gave Darby five bucks to make up for the pistol weapon. How many people did they?
This is 1933 how is it that to make friends you just had to kidnap someone and it would all work out
This is not the first time right no Bonnie and Clyde kid next someone kidnap someone and afterwards the kidnappers were like
Can we stay nor is it the last wow? No, it's all like the movie
I think was collateral with the taxi driver is that with Tom Cruise
Where he gets going the taxi driver things go when they end up on a hit together and they end up kind of like friends
There are many movies like this
They just end up like they get on but think about this you come from pure poverty
You are in a hard scrabble life in the middle of the dust bowl this kind of shit is
Incredibly exciting. Yeah, you're with Bonnie and Clyde right at all of you this point
You've just heard seen newsreels about this this fucking sexy gang that all they do they do is fuck Rob and murder
Right that's it and then all of a sudden you're a part of their story
It's a in America. This is an American legend in the making but Clyde doing these things which I really like is because
It's not forced. He is not doing things out of some kind of
Per like some other outside pressure. It's weird. He is the character that he is embodying
Yeah, and if you're the one who is kidnapped technically you get a get out of jail free card
So you get to go on all the fun antics, but then you can be like they kidnapped me officer
And then you're also a hero. Well, meanwhile WD had disappeared
He'd somehow got lost in the shuffle after the Derby kidnapping and Bonnie and Clyde had no idea where he'd gone
But they figured if he was hadn't anywhere it was West Dallas. Mm-hmm
So they headed back home to leave a message that WD should should sit tight and wait for them to come back to West
Also, they can pick them up
But even though WD was no longer around the gang still had to feed themselves
So Clyde and Buck planned a nice straightforward bank robbery on May 11th. Oh, and I bet you went without a hitch
Yeah, yeah, and they got all they got crazy money and everything was good
But I mean they just have to feed themselves
So wouldn't they just cut out the middleman which is the money in that transaction and just go rob a restaurant
They did that plenty as well, but they also wanted some of the glory
It's also like you got to have some purpose in life
And if you're a criminal and if you're you know, if you've set yourself up with this outlaw lifestyle, then that's your purpose
That's why you wake up in the morning. You are a bank robber
Yeah, is your job, right? They go back to work. Yeah, the plan was to break into a bank
Hide and wait until the bank opened in the morning to pull the BTK
Yeah, then when the clerks arrive for work the barrow boys pull out their gums
They got the drop they got the drop on them and then Bonnie and Blanche would be outside waiting in the getaway car
Yeah, easy peasy. This is what happened on save by the bell when they got stuck in the mall overnight
Yeah, they just hung out in the camping equipment supply store
But extra right you're hanging out in the bank at night grab a couple mops
You see that like maybe like I could use a little bit of clean start cleaning it play the bathrooms, right?
Restock a lot of the shelves in the snack room all of a sudden you're working at the bank
Making money on top of money. That's good. That's a good idea
But when the morning came Buck and Clyde discovered they should have spent a little bit of time searching the bank for stray weapons
As soon as they popped out of their hidey holes
The clerk grabbed a nearby shotgun and just started firing and the whole thing was led-lined so as soon as you show up
You're like he's just immediately Robo cop of tellers
Yeah, they had no choice but to run and they ran out of the building into the car where Bonnie and Blanche were waiting as a
Pissed-off teller with a shotgun chased after oh, man
They needed what was it elven in the chipmunks Theodore Theodore. No Theodore was the key. You're talking about
Yeah, you're talking about
Alvin no later. You're thinking about the tall one the smart one Dave
Rupert. Oh, no, it was
Theodore and not Rupert. I think he went didn't he just go by cunt. No
Everyone's Simon
Simon by the way a road manager on this tour is named Simon and he is a wonderful man. Oh, yeah
He's a peach. He's a real we are living Wayne's World too right now
We are with an Australian roadie and he's just telling us stories about Judas Priest
You can't even the stories are incredible, but they needed a Simon. They needed a brain in the group. They did not have it
Teller chased him out with the shotgun. That's when the townsfolk joined it
That's gotta be so exciting again. What a fun day to be a town folk
Well, one guy hurled a big piece of wood in the road to try to block the path of the Barrow Gang while another guy
Jumped on the hood of the car and only let go after Bonnie fired a few warning shots through the window
Because Bonnie had no desire to murder nor did Bonnie ever murder anyone no matter what some of the shitty movies might say, okay?
She just wanted money. She wanted money. She wanted to live the lifestyle always and she wanted to love Clyde
And they wanted to live a life freedom outside of what they were born into and what they find nothing but trouble
We did this last episode too. Unfortunately. It's just always right there. Yeah, of course it is
but when
Bonnie fired the warning shots. That's when the rest of the townsfolk opened fire
And when the Barrow Gang fired back two women Doris Minor and Ethel Jones
They both got wounded although not terribly wounded. Yeah, people are still getting hurt
Well, the only things to die that day were a couple of pigs
No, we're crossing the road and having to be directly in the path of the fast-moving Barrow Gang
Big that explosion would have been a pork
Baking rain, okay, but the whole thing okay, so this is going back to my previous point though. They're looking for food steal the pigs
I just don't get it
But even though that plan was a disaster the gang tried the exact same thing at a different bank a week later
But that time they did relatively okay. They got sixteen hundred bucks
Although seven hundred dollars of that was in big-ass silver dollars, which were later given to Cume Barrow
That's a nice gift for a mom though. It's great. My mom loves shit like coins and plates and all that kind of garbage
She likes commemorative whatever, you know, I mean, I got her a little boat once
And just sit somewhere. My mom has so many chachkies. Yeah, my mom's big on chachkies as well
It just it looks like it's a nervous home
And because you bought them a pool technically you also got her a pool boy
Which is really nice for her to watch them
work on the pool
Slack the slackbacks. Yeah, meanwhile a development had occurred in the case of Raymond Hamilton
Remember Raymond Hamilton was a very early member of the Barrow gang
Hamilton had just been found guilty of the murder of John Butcher
Remember the jeweler who was the first guy first guy to die as a result of the Barrow gang's actions
But instead of the chair Raymond had somehow come out with a 99-year prison sentence
Hmm what that meant was that instead of going to death row?
Hamilton was now on his way to where else but Eastham prison farm bloody him
And with that Clyde had better reason than ever to organize his long-planned prison break. Honestly, dude
It's it's it's the it's the arc of this whole story right Clyde is obsessed with this idea for forever
It never goes away. He knows it because it's the fulfillment of his pure Robin Hood
version of his reality race has been like this is this way if I can get some of these boys out of this prison
It's almost in a psychological way or races for him all the other crimes and sins
He's committed where he's like, but I did one good thing in this life
But as always an Eastham prison break was gonna take preparation and men the gang had finally gotten word the WD
Had shown back up in West Dallas after going God knows where so Bonnie and Clyde headed down to pick him up while Blanche and Buck
Went to Oklahoma to visit Blanche's father, but after picking up WD and heading back up north
Disaster struck. Oh, no while driving through the town of Wellington, Texas Clyde driving 70 miles per hour in the pitch dark
missed a detour sign drove straight through a wooden construction barricade and
Flew into the air basically what they said was that this was a part of this was a part of the world
Where the idea of driving fast at night was the dumbest shit right to do and they said if you knew
There's only they say that it was a it created an optical illusion
It was so flat that you couldn't even see where the road twisted in turn because it just looked like a fucking line
Yeah, your eyes couldn't adjust to the depth perception and Clyde who could not drive
He he would do a thing that I mean obviously would be truly the end of the barrel gang
This is what happened here and I serve as a warning to me
Yeah, who also loves to drive as fast as humanly possible when the car finally came crashing down to earth the car battery
Exploded and splashed Bonnie's legs with battery acid, which left burns that went deep enough to expose her bones
Exposed to
Man, hello, I'm the bone slice. Yeah, look at these lovely bones. It's your name Bonnie. Oh, I wish I could slice your lovely
beautiful white
It's still attached me see you wait a lot of my corpse like another guy, but he's got to get up my file
You're quite the flirt Bonnie
Well Clyde carried Bonnie to a nearby farmhouse where her legs were saved only when the farmer's daughter
Covered the burns with a salve mixed with baking powder
See Clyde refused to let the farmer go get a doctor essentially saying that if she dies
She dies like oven Drago Ivan Drago
Ivan Drago
But a part of it it's true because they all said it because they had an internal dialogue
They had an agreement they knew that it because hospitals meant prison
Everything would be over right and they both of them
I mean truly in romantic fashion one to die next to each other if one was gonna die
I mean Clyde would not have died
Clyde
Clyde understood that's on some level that he was gonna end up
He was gonna shoot again. He was gonna make love again, but but Bonnie
I'd always said if Clyde died she'd immediately die afterwards. Hmm, but this is a fucking gruesome injury
Yeah, absolutely Brittle's battery acid. It's battery acid that I mean think how much it has to burn through to make the like show
I mean that is inches of flesh to be fair. She's extremely thin. I don't think the battery acid would get to my bone
That's why I have a protection layer of fat. Yeah, you got big legs. Yeah
Well the suspicion of these injured newcomers only deepened when Clyde sent WD back to the car to gather all the guns
I'm saying it very plainly in front of his new in front of his new friends WD
Go get the guns. You know what you do is if you ever say hey like if I ever say Marcus go get the guns
quotation mark fingers
That's what you have to do legally
That keeps you from committing a crime because you say I get the guns with the winky face and quotation fingers
Legally, it's gonna be like a bunch of pecan pies or something exactly legally it could be anything, but we know it actually is good
4d chest Henry Zabrowski you have it all figured out so after
Clyde told WD to go get the guns someone in the house went and got the law
But by the time the law showed up WD was already back with the guns
So all the law did was provide the Barrow gang with a new car
The gang then took the cops hostage, but while they were all driving away together Clyde couldn't help
But let the cops know who they were and I understand dropping credits
It's hard to not get another rung on your IMDB page right right and with that the cops now knew that the infamous
Bonnie Parker was seriously hurt with a very specific injury
There was now a very clear trail where if Clyde hadn't said anything to those cops if you just could if he would have said
Shut the fuck up. We're gonna drop you off down the road. Don't say anything
No one would have known but now they knew for sure Bonnie Parker has a serious leg injury
Watch out for it
So the ego got in the way much like Dennis Raider the four mentioned BTK piece of shit that he is so they just could not
I'm what why do you think that is? Why did they need to let the cops know?
Because it's obviously not in their best interest. It is I truly I you know with many of my jokes
There's a little bit of truth in them
Henry's breaks the rule of comedy where there's no truth at all sure yeah, definitely not no
But I do believe it really is about credit. Yeah, they're at this point
They know they're gonna be done. They're no they know they're gonna die
They know they're gonna be murdered at some point for their crimes in the middle of something
They're not going out. They're not gonna be taken alive. No matter what they want the credit
They're building a legend. They do believe in some way shape or form. They have this
I think that it's it's a delusion that will get so famous like something will happen
The people will it'll almost flip for us
We will become such a legend that will almost become untouchable that eventually our presence will make people so scared of us
Immediately that no one will deal with us
No one will try to stop us and that they're their long game was that Bonnie kept saying like why don't we just disappear?
We'll go and take the money that we get we'll get a big score and then we'll disappear up to Montana
But it was never gonna be like that. That's what happened with Johnny Depp in this Hollywood vampires band
I
Think it was also partly
Some small form of payment like it has to all of this has to be worth something like Bonnie is damn near dead
They just got into a car like everyone's all fucked up. Everyone's filthy. They've got no money there
They run out of they spend money as soon as they steal it. So a little bit of credit is
Almost payment
It's all they got it's pride. Yeah, you know when you broke pride is all you got
I mean as performers who worked for free for the vast majority of our career still for the first 15 years of our careers
The applause was the reward. Well, that's why you did it in the I there. That's what this whole thing was about is be about
Going past where you were born. It was about making a difference making well not making a difference, but making
Making a fucking go for it. Yeah, they definitely made a difference
Well when the gang finally met back up with Buck and Blanche outside of Sayre, Oklahoma
Which is that where they met just down the road from where my family's ranch was at the time really my father was born in Saro
No, no, yeah
The cops were still in tow
But although Buck again suggested maybe we ought to just kill them
Clyde insisted on letting the cops live because the cops had cradled Bonnie's head all the way to Sayre
They've been very kind to Bonnie. Oh, that's nice. So they handcuffed the cops to a tree and just drove off
Okay, that's kind of cute actually
It's another moment of why the the Warren Beatty movie was like kind of close in tone if they weren't also just total shitheads
Right, right. Well Bonnie's leg injury, however would prove to be a permanent burden for the gang
See despite Clyde's cruel Ivan Drago-like statement immediately after the accident Clyde wouldn't leave Bonnie's side while she was recovering
That's because even though the two of them regulate they got in a fist fights
They got in a screaming matches that would curl your fucking hair. They still loved each other or maybe more accurately
They were unhelpfully codependent on each other. Well, I mean absolutely
I also love that idea for a hair salon
If you if you really could see an argument that could curl your hair
Where you just go in and it's just two people screaming at each other you watch it as entertainment and then you walk out with a beautiful
Bro, yeah, you've never been to scream a bitch. I never know that scream a bitch is one of the most incredible
Holistic hair cutting service. I've had you see how much more hair I've had recently I do
I go to scream a bitch
So while Bonnie was convalescent from a serious burn injury that most likely dissolved the tattoo bearing her first husband's name
metal it was up to WD and Buck to do all the robberies and
One of those in particular showcased just how young and dumb WD actually was and just how truly terrible at the game
That buck was but WD didn't even want to be there because he couldn't do the first robbery
Yeah, he was forced to steal that damn car. He's kind of he's just over his head
He's kind of institutionalized a little bit by them like I think he's kind of been he's getting raised into the business
And also the way they talk about it perspective
I think is interesting where Clyde and Bonnie the view it as a job
WD at first it's dangerous, but eventually start to view it as like this is my job
I have to learn how to do it right now. I'm dumb, but one day. I'll be as brilliant as our leader Clyde
Well the barrel gang was driving around in a small sedan
And then they needed and they needed something bigger if they were gonna comfortably transport Bonnie
So during a grocery store robbery WD spotted the store's delivery truck outside and and decided that would be perfect
Despite the fact that a grocery store delivery truck was slow as hell and extremely conspicuous
It might as well have been the big dog car
And even if it wasn't a bad idea in the first place it became a worse idea when WD got the keys from the store owner and found
That the battery was dead
Ah, and still WD didn't give up
He started pushing the truck down the hill so he could pop the clutch and after going through all that trouble
WD decided as he was driving away in the truck
Maybe it's not such a good idea after all so he drove back up the hill and returned to Buck
Who was rightly wondering where the fuck WD had gone? Oh, right?
WD is not a good intern
No, this is like if the Scooby-Doo gang just started huffin. What is going on here?
But now it was Buck's turn to fuck up great two of them took off
Buck was driving too fast and crashed into the back of another car while going over a steep hill and two cops
Heard the crash just 50 yards away, so they were on the scene almost immediately
And Buck who if you'll remember had never been a fan of taking hostages got out of the car
Brought the shotgun with him while WD got out holding a browning automatic rifle
But WD was terrible shot, so he was pretty much useless Buck on the other hand
Wasn't he opened fire and hit officer Henry Humphrey who died a few days later
But the other officer survived and managed to shoot off two of WD's fingers. Oh, that's my fucking jerking off hand
Wow now after this scene and perhaps wasn't all that surprising that cops started attaching as many crimes
To the Barrow gang as they could because the thing about the Barrow gang was that they could cover
Hundreds of miles in a single day right this was like on it wasn't unheard of it was just new that someone could be one day
They could be in Arkansas and the next they'd be on in the Panhandler, Oklahoma
It's like that new Star Trek that I saw where they could dissolve themselves and go to another place
That's not new in Star Trek. That's very old in Star Trek. I don't know but but he would relentlessly drive again Clyde Barrow's one
Ability was to drive. It doesn't sound like he's he doesn't he doesn't sound very good at it
No, that was Buck that got into the car accident. That wasn't Clyde. No, but Clyde when he jumped over the thing going 70
You're gonna make a mistake and sometimes
Bigger mistakes happen instead of smaller mistakes. This is you explaining why you got into a car crash to Natalie your wife
Well because the Barrow gang could show up pretty much anywhere
Anytime there was a robbery or murder with suspects who even kind of look like the Barrow gang
That crime would be attached to Bonnie and Clyde
So technically it would be smart to dress like Bonnie and Clyde rob a bunch of banks blame it on Bonnie and Clyde
That's probably there were probably quite a few people who did that. That's smart
Honestly, you got it like one skinny guy with a wig on yeah flapper dress with his other like short you have a lady
Dressing up as a dude, right?
Super weird like gender fluid. Why not bank robbery team calling themselves Connie and Blyde
Right doing that kind of shit start scissoring each other
Well, I don't know see now you made it to scissoring once again, but no just yet
It's just straight up call yourself Bonnie and Clyde publicly
Well for an example of a crime that was attached to the Barrow gang that they absolutely did not commit
Police in Crawford County attached a rape to Clyde and Buck Barrow although although they were provably in another state
But from then on all the wanted posters concerning the Barrow boys listed rape right alongside murder
But no sexual assault that's the first time we're hearing about that
That wasn't something they were doing never it not even fucking close to what they were doing
Okay, but it was a thing that actually really fucked with the center of the Barrow gang
Because when those charges came down like a buck I literally had to be like I didn't do it
I didn't do it to blanche. Yeah, and so it actually
Psychologically it was a almost a trick of the police with that kind of thing helps fucking
Fuck with the fabric of the gang sure. Okay. Meanwhile Bonnie's wounds weren't doing any better
The gang stopped where they could to pick up medical supplies
But since she spent most of her recovery in the backseat of a car Bonnie's tendons and ligaments
Healed in a somewhat fetal position. Dude. It's bad news. The shit was like it gets fucking gruesome, man
Yeah, that meant that when the wounds finally healed Bonnie's leg was permanently
Curled up meaning that while she could hop a little mostly for the rest of her life
Clyde had to carry her around everywhere Wow
It's such a did this to me is one of the biggest myth-busting things about Bonnie and Clyde about how the way that when they
When they ended they were so fucking tore up. We're gonna go through this. They're I mean this gets fucking brutal
Yeah, but Bonnie had to be she was a basket woman. Yeah, but I had to carry her
Medical term. Yeah, I'm sorry miss Bonnie. You are now a basket woman. So no they actually WD later said that when Bonnie had to go
To the bathroom either WD or Clyde would have to carry her into the toilet and plop her down on the seat
Yeah, and there's guys that pay for that. Oh, now you just there's there's a whole custom experience
You can do just being a toilet waiter
So since Bonnie wasn't doing too well the gang decided to treat themselves to a couple of nights at a nice motor court in
Platt City, Missouri next to a grocery store named Slim's Castle and a restaurant called the Red Crown Tavern now this broke
All of their rules every single one
They had a lot of rules about how they don't stay at any sort of hotel
They don't they don't appear in public
They had been camping out for so long
But I really think because all of the spider senses were going off
Everyone was saying like this is a fucking bad idea and Clyde was like no and I think a part of it is that a little bit
I think that he thinks if we're gonna be killed here, and this is gonna happen
I just want Bonnie to be in a bed for a night like we need a good sleep before the murder
Honestly, they're gonna get killed. I mean sure sure well turned out that a bucks instinct about how we should not be fucking doing this
That was the right one to follow because once again
It was the little things that gave away the barrow gang
Now as I said, it was well known that Bonnie was injured and not everyone was a fan of Bonnie and Clyde
See the barrow gang was just throwing used bandages out the window or they were leaving them at campsites
Oh god, you remember when I cut off my thumb?
Yeah
The gore filled shit. I just left in place because I had to travel for work. I was doing all these things. I was traveling
I was shooting shit. I literally had hotels just filled with my fucking bus
Stamps. Yeah, that was just what were you doing cutting an onion or something cutting garlic. Yes screaming about Ken. Yeah
Oh our manager. Yeah, and think about it like and these are bandages huge a huge wound on Bonnie's leg on a
Festering plus filled burn. All right, and they're just throwing them out the window
They're leaving them at campsites
And so when people would find these bandages they'd call up the cops and say like hey
I think Bonnie and Clyde were here. We found a bunch of festering bloody bandages. Wait a second before we are now
I'm gonna text strange. Let me take a look at these now cuz this could variably be ketchup. So let me give it a try. Oh
That is Puss
Cut to the homeless guy from Dennis the metas just wearing it
So when a farmer in Iowa not too far away from Platt City reported findings and bandages
It suddenly wasn't so strange to think that Bonnie and Clyde were in the area. That's red flag number one
Okay, furthermore the red crown tavern which was right next to the motor court where the barrow gang had decided to rest was
Unbeknownst to the gang a popular hangout for both local police and the state highway patrol fucking
Dude, it's just the worst of all of it. You walked in they just it's literally plain clothes cops
Mm-hmm just sitting in a bar watching Bonnie and Clyde
I just roll in and they're all like tiptoeing outside. You know, they never gonna see us
They're just watching. Yeah, that is hilarious
And then Blanche walked into the office of the motor court wearing very expensive highfalutin riding pants
Oh that she had bought and but it was like this was a time when like a woman walking in wearing fancy pants
Was a town scandal everyone's like I saw a woman wearing joggers over at the motor court
And so it started getting around and then it started getting around even more when this woman who's wearing these very expensive
Clothes was paying in loose change that the barrow gang had stolen from a bubblegum machine
That's how that's how broke they were they were robbing bubblegum machines
They went to garbage pale kids level crime
All right, all right, and the center came
When Clyde taped up all the windows of their cabin with newspaper. That's so smart
Honestly, you got to do it sometimes in a hotel because they have like flimsy curtains and you're trying to sleep
You got to cover them with trash bags. I don't I am guilty of it
I'm sure I think all of us are Blanche was also buying meals for five and she was seen buying bandages
See all you got to say is like nah, I ain't buying for a family. I'm buying for me. I'm trying to get real fat
No, I openly lie about that
So word finally got around to the sheriff and the sheriff surmised that most likely the barrow gang was hiding out in Platt City
Oh now up to this point the barrow gang hadn't ever faced any
Real opposition every time they got into a shootout before it had always been with barely trained local cops
Who had no idea what they were walking into? Hmm, but this time law enforcement was ready
They got themselves bar's to match the now trademark barrow firepower
And when it came time to raid the motor court Jackson County Sheriff Tom bash showed up with a posse of 13
Shields and an armored car. Yeah, they're rolling in deep. Yeah
When the cops finally commenced the raid they found that the gang had split into two separate cabins
So the cops approached the cabins and called out to tell the barrow gang give up. You're surrounded
The barrow gang responded by opening fire, dude
Fucking it's hard cuz your backs against the wall. I know it. They don't come out. They don't talk. They don't hide
They don't negotiate. It's just literally
I was surrounded by Uber Eats drivers
Now the shields were supposed to protect the men from any and all BAR bullets and they sort of did but the
BIRs were so powerful the cops were knocked back on their ass with the power of a fire hose every time
One of the bullets connected whoo so while Clyde and Buck were laying down covering fire from the two different cabins
WD went to the garage in the cabin that he was sharing with Bonnie and Clyde and opened the garage door
So they could all escape that's when they discovered the cops had brought an armored car
Oh my so Clyde ran to the garage as well and open fire turned out the armored car was actually more useless than the shields
Clyde's bullets pop through the metal plating and wounded the driver in both legs
So the driver said fuck this and he got out of there
Which cleared the way for the barrow gang to escape because you put the weakest dude inside of the driver of the armored car
Because you think that's kind of that's where master blaster goes because he's going to sit in the whole thing and be like there's no one gonna get to me
Fucking back out of there. The thing is that if he had not they would have fucking just killed they would have killed them
We just left the car as a fucking obstacle
But then gave him a window and that's all Clyde needs because once you go short you don't abort
Now as I said Buck and Blanche have been staying in a different cabin from Bonnie and Clyde
So they had to run across an open area with no cover to join Bonnie Clyde and WD in the getaway car
But as they were running
Buck was shot in the head
The bullet entered his temple and exited out his forehead taking part of his skull and exposing his brain
And yet Buck did not die what how did he die? He did drop to the ground
I hope so but Blanche who was only 90 pounds from the malnutrition of being on the road for weeks at a time
They were all malnourished she mustered up the strength to drag him to the car under fire and she got him inside
Your husband just had a fucking quarter of his face blown off
But you know it's also it's interesting to show just how hard it is to kill the human ape. Yeah, we are very protected
Your skull is really strong. It's difficult to blow it up
So it took out a chunk of his fucking brain and he was still alive
So this is the JFK Jackie O moment of the story. Mm-hmm, okay
So as soon as Buck was in Clyde hit the gas and sped away under a hail of bullets as Blanche
Shielded Buck in the back seat
But just before they were out of range a bullet shattered the back windshield and Blanche's eyes were filled with shards
But although the Barrow gang had gotten away their first ever real even gunfight had resulted in one near fatal head wound
And a serious eye injury while the only wound the cop suffered was from friendly fire and the guy who got shot in the legs
Well, the friendly fire thing is oh, it's never getting a circle
Yeah, when you're about to shoot because you'll end up shooting your best bud
And that guy would go on to say I was shot by the Barrow gang and I lived and it's like you were shot by your buddy Fred
Yeah
Well, that's the thing is that that his buddy Fred didn't say like they let him have it for a long time because that was his favorite story
It's like yeah, I got this injury back when I took down Bonnie and Clyde and Platt City back in 34 and they're like Fred shot you
Well stupidly though the Barrow's hadn't kept their car full of gas
So they needed to fill up but when they pulled into a service station the attendant was met with Buck
Brains fully visible
Bombing loudly out of the car covered in blood while bench Blanche screamed about her eyes in the back
Did you guys want unleaded or like what are you guys trying you want like a you guys goddamn slim jams
So the Barrow's moved on to the next station where they managed to calm down enough to get bandages
Aspirin and hydrogen peroxide which they poured directly into Buck's head hole honestly dude
He was down on the ground the way they should they talked about it is that he was on the ground
His brains completely visible and his eyes are like rolling back and he's just like huh, huh, huh, and they're like we gotta clean this
What do I do they go get the peroxide and they're just like should we soak a shirt with it and pad it?
No
Fill his head with it. They just
What does that feel like?
Jeffrey Dahmer tried to make zombies this is not medicine well
No, it sounds dumb, but doctors later said that this probably saved Buck's life at least for a little while prolonged his misery
Yeah, yeah prolonged his life because it kept infection from taking hold, okay
But it was obvious to even the Barrow's the buck was not gonna live long
So they pulled off the road near Des Moines and unloaded into an abandoned amusement park that had closed as a result of the
Depression place called Decksfield Park. I think that is truly the depression. Yeah depression literally killed
amusement
They all unloaded and they waited for buck to die in peace
Amazingly though just staring at him. Yeah, just kind of stare like cuz they didn't want him to die in a car
They wanted him to die in a nice field in nature, you know, like it was it was a sweet
It was a sweet gesture. Yeah, they wanted to put him by the teacups ride
So they laid him down and it's him. Just like
Oh, right, and they're just like what if we just like no
Let him die natural
But buck was still coherent enough to request fried chicken yep, he wanted a last meal
So Clyde went into town and got him a last meal, but still even after the fried chicken
Buck did not die. Well, that's all he gets
Okay, just checking. It's great. I actually can you go get me some ice cream now?
My ice cream is really good. Can you go get me a newspaper and get me um, I need a pair of new headphones
Maybe go get me a new iPod
Actually, if you could go get me the extended cut of the wire
And as he lay there dying he had to sit and listen to WD as WD sat there and poured his heart out saying
He decided the outlaw life just wasn't for him. Oh, yeah
So this is a lot for you
WD saying I'm going as soon as as soon as I can I'm going back to West Dallas
Meanwhile Blanche was still just sitting there just
Bleeding from her eyes
Still filled with tiny pieces of glass the best they could do was try to pluck the larger pieces out with tweezers
Like Bonnie would sit there like all right darling. Just hold still
Yeah, this is the last one
Quotation marks within the best part about Windsor half-blind they can't see the quotation marks
Yeah, they all ended up looking like cinna bites. Yeah, yeah
Hellraiser. Yeah, dude, and the whole time a screech owl had set up camp next to their car and wouldn't stop swooping and screeching
screeching and swooping oh my god, they were there waiting for buck to die
They were a I think the term is a mess. Yeah at this point. Yeah
Now predictably the shootout in Platte City had been big news
So when a farmhand found some bloody bandages out in Dexfield Park while picking blackberries
He told the night watchman when I was all
Barry wrong
The owl speak to me
Yeah, the owls told me
It was a bunch of bad guys, but they could see their brains
You're a genius dumb man
And the night watchman of course told the sheriff and within hours the local cops have put together another
Posse to take down the Barrow Gang
There's not a moment's rest for them Posse number two, but this time the town's folk Joan joined in. Hey, man
You got to entertain the people. Yeah, I guess a dentist named Herschel Keller who brought his own tommy guns
In this cartoon world of ours all told there were
50 people ready to descend on the Barrow Gang when it was all said and done and about half of them were drunk
Okay, good. Well, that's that's the way it should be when if you got a rage filled town folk crowd
At least half have to be drunk. Well, I mean to the
Sheriff's credit. He did actually go through the crowd and pick out be like you're too drunk
You need to go. You think you're better be seen and I'm gonna win
I'm the one who's a part of the Posse you're some kind of administrator
The dude woke up in the morning is like I have to stop drinking
This is my rock bottom
And so at 5 a.m. On July 24th the Posse attacked
Luckily for the gang though, they'd all woken up early to make a hot dog breakfast. Yeah
Yeah, it's like being with your single dad
And when Clyde heard a branch snap he and WD grabbed their guns and started firing into the darkness
But again, they were no match of a prepared Posse
Both Clyde and WD were shot almost immediately
WD getting grazed in the face and Clyde getting seriously shot in the left arm shattered the bone
But still neither wound was bad enough to take him down man
They just don't fucking stop no again the Barragang managed to all get in the car
But they got stuck on a tree stump almost immediately
They all got out and started running down a hill, but while they were running Buck fainted Wow
He didn't even die
Not only cuz he got up and ran faster than we do when we're filled with fried chicken. Yes
He ate a whole chicken while his brain is exposed. Does he hold the brain in? I think they put a cork in it
They it was like a chicken bone
Stuck in a hole he gets hot. He does his fucking sideways walk like away
Because if you look at the setup of this they they
They fucked up. Yeah, it was a car in the middle of a completely open field. They had stopped clearing
There was a clearing and so the posse literally completely surrounded them in the forest
And so they were just fucking stuck dead to rights. Yeah, wow
But now Clyde had a choice to make remember Bonnie could barely walk. She's still recovering from the burns
So is he carrying her this whole time? He's carrying her the whole time
And so now he was faced with a decision to try to save his dying brother or his lover
Of course, he chose Bonnie. That's what happened Q number one crush by garbage as he looks across the thing and sees there's
This is where it gets very
I'm like me and Shirley Manson
Nipples try to look again. Also, we are exposed. There's two there's two windows that go right to the street
We're recording and Henry is now flashing them his breasts great. We're out here. I'm willing but
But the thing was is that buck kept
Fighting even though he was on the ground laid out. He was laying down in the muck
He had a handgun with him and he's still firing shots out of the posse
Me
Tell me I'm half a man
He only stopped when he was shot many more times in the body
Including bullets in his chest, but still buck did not die. What okay? Whoa were the bullets just gummy bears back then
I actually survived this. I think it does speak to the quality of bullets
It must right because they have to just be kind of saw or I mean honestly, it's just we are bags of meat
It's hard to drain us. Yeah, yeah, if you if you somehow miss a lot of like the main arteries
And if you're if you have that adrenaline going hard enough, you're gonna keep going
He's like the night in life of Brian
Python the holy grail Wow
So when the posse finally got to Blanche and buck because Blanche was just laying down on the ground next to buck
She wouldn't leave aside. Okay, they separated buck from his wife and arrested them both
And as Blanche was being taken away a photographer from a Des Moines newspaper raised his camera to take a photo
Okay, now Blanche was more than half blind from all the glass in her eyes
But she could still make out shapes so when the photographer raised his camera
She screamed because she thought he was raising a gun to execute her on the spot
And now that's a famous photo that photo is amazing
Because you see her like it is her mid-scream and buck is just essentially coleslaw. Yeah, right, right?
So Blanche was taken to jail and buck was taken to the hospital buck survived for another five days
This is ridiculous. This is absolutely ridiculous at one point
His brain came out of his head his entire brain with a little white flag really just said can I go?
I'm just a hostage. I didn't rob any of these banks
And that was long enough for kumi Barrow to drive up and say goodbye and buck did not die from the gunshot wounds
He died from pneumonia after a surgery to remove the bullet from his chest
The doctors did it
Push comes to shove it was still a malpractice lawsuit
Even so the Barrow family held up on buying a headstone for buck because they were so sure that Clyde was gonna die soon after
That they figured it'd be best save money and just buy one for both. Yeah, that actually makes sense
It's always good to think about sales
At this point in time that works meanwhile Bonnie Clyde and WD had gotten away yet again
Immediately after the shootout they made their way to a nearby farm where they were met by 19-year-old
Marvell Feller who was up for a 5 a.m. Cow milk concession. Oh, yeah, how do you milk all those cows with no arms Marvell?
Yeah, yeah, dude with the fate mouth. Oh, yeah, I get down there
Then you spit it into a bucket. That's the cow seemed to like it better when you swallow
Marvell said that by that time WD had taken over carrying Bonnie because remember Clyde had been shot in the arm
Oh my god
And Bonnie's nightgown was stained with blood because she'd gotten a buckshot wound to the stomach
Bonnie had been shot as well. So now Bonnie's on a she's her leg is still burned to the bone. Yep
Now she's got a buckshot. We got one shot in the arm for our boy Clyde
WD's been shot in the face
Honestly, they did live and escaped they managed to be completely surrounded by 50 people
Wow escape from an armored car
A dozen BAR's and then surrounded these guys but this point are
Living up to the word about them about how they are unstoppable. Yeah, it doesn't seem like the bank robbery was really what's so legendary
It really is just them living this long. It's the escape. Yeah
Well pretty soon though the remaining gang was back on the road driving fellers Plymouth again Bonnie and Clyde had gotten away
But at even greater cost buck was dead blanche was captured and blind WD had gotten shot in the face
Clyde's arm was broken by a bullet and Bonnie was picking buckshot out of her belly. Yeah, they were fucked up
Yeah, their clothes have been so soaked with blood that they had to take sheets from the Feller house and
Cut holes for their heads to poke through and they had to wear those sheets until they could buy new clothes
And the best part now is in these outfits appear to get called we people already think that we're ghosts
Yeah, or clansmen. I don't know. Meanwhile Blanche was getting a visitor in jail
Who else had shown up to personally interrogate Blanche Barrow, but J. Edgar Hoover get the
Well, you know, he's coming you can hear the clack
He comes in he takes off his earrings like now things about to get serious it takes off his wig
Oh my god, yeah, and that blanche later said that J. Edgar Hoover threatened to gouge out her one good
Eye if she didn't tell him what he wanted to know
The most the blanche could give him was the name of the mysterious fifth member of the gang
WD Jones who up to that point had been nothing more than an unnamed companion
No one knew who WD was this entire time, but now fucking everybody knew J. Edgar Hoover knew
Yeah, J. Edgar Hoover knew it can went out to the press. It was released like it is now like it is WD Jones
Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow out on the road. All right
But after Blanche talked she was charged with assault with intent to kill and was sentenced to 10 years in Missouri State Prison
Oh, actually, that's not that bad of a sentence. She it was vaguely fair for her
Yeah, as far as WD went though, he made good on his promise to leave the gang
He got the fuck out of there after helping Bonnie and Clyde restock their arsenal
WD stuck around long enough where they could fend for themselves
Then he went back home
He'd eventually get picked up and he only did 15 years okay for his part in the Barrow gang
Wow bad. Yeah, I mean it is that is lenient. Yeah, well, so it was back to just Bonnie and Clyde
But after escaping two huge shootouts Bonnie and Clyde were more famous than ever
So they were able to easily recruit two prison escapees named Henry Massingale and Doc Potter
To fill out the ranks. These names are awesome
But honestly you hear all this shit about Bonnie and Clyde. They can't be killed by the police
They are you know, they're fucking they can go anywhere and steal from anybody and then you meet them and it's Clyde
Right, who's a one-armed five foot four man who's all hat. Yes, and Bonnie and Bonnie who is essentially Quaddall
from Total Recall
She's cute sure they said honestly though by this time her look said it but they with they said
Unfortunately her time on the road had made her looks completely erode and by the time she got to this point
She looked like she was ten years older than she was well together
The fifth iteration of the Barrow Gang headed out to Oklahoma to rob a bank and they failed miserably once again because of a lack
Of preparation hmm
They arrived to find the entire state on high alert because a massive prison break had set all of Oklahoma on edge
Do a little bit of recon mm-hmm
The gang was chased for four hours and Clyde had to steal four cars in one day to escape
Finally they got stuck in the mud and Massengale
He set off alone on foot, but he got taken down by a couple of old ladies with croquet mallets and got sent to prison for
20 years
Who was that who that was Henry Massengale?
He was like the new member of the Bonnie and this is a guy that came in like thinking I've hooked up with John Dillinger
I've hooked up with pretty boy Floyd right is gonna be fucking on easy street
And then two days later. He gets taken down by a couple of fucking old ladies with pieces of wood
Sentence the WD did yeah. Oh my goodness
Now Doc Potter got away, but he like Hale and Hardy realized that Bonnie and Clyde
They were just hype like that's all Bonnie and Clyde where it was just a hundred percent hype
Right, so it was back down to Bonnie and Clyde
It was a good thing for Potter that he left because the Barrows were about to have another near miss
Hmm see law enforcement knew that Bonnie and Clyde were still in and out of West Dallas and Sheriff Smooch
Mid hadn't given up on his grudge all he needed was to know when and where to find him and on November 22nd
1933 an informant finally gave smooth the information he needed
But nobody knows who that informant was although Jeff Gwynne has two pretty good guesses
The smart money was on Joe Bill Francis who is engaged to Clyde's sister Marie
Never trust anybody with three first names
I've never even heard of that three first names
See Joe Bill was a bit of a son of a bitch and what it turned in Bonnie and Clyde just for the reward money
The other possibility was that Billy Jean Parker Bonnie sister tipped off the sheriff's department in exchange for a light sentence for Bonnie
Because the suffering Bonnie was going through was getting just had too much for her sister to bear
Oh, I'm sure they had several family conferences where they
Straight up were like please stop and at one point even Clyde Barrow asked her to please leave the gang
Like will you do this like there was these these moments when they did these big family visits
So they all begged her to stop because at this point
She wasn't even adding to the gang. No, right, but she wouldn't leave Clyde. Okay, so Bonnie's in it for life
Well, either way when Bonnie and Clyde showed up in West Dallas for Cumey Barrow's birthday in November of 1933
Smoot Schmidt was waiting with deputies Bob Alcorn Edcaster and Ted Hinton and Ted actually knew Bonnie
From her waitressing days. Oh Ted was a regular. Okay, but as Bonnie and Clyde arrived at the agreed-upon meeting spot Clyde
Spider sent started tingling spider-ham. He didn't know why but for some reason the meat just didn't feel right
So Clyde kept driving the posse still opened fire as Bonnie and Clyde drove past
And they almost shot Cumey Barrow in the process. Oh, well Schmidt kept yelling
Interesting yeah, and just about the most feudal fucking gesture you can imagine
Well, that's how we know pedophiles don't have that spider-ham sense because none of them realized Chris Hansen was in that house
During to catch a predator. No, I'm
Benounced to the posse though one of those shots had connected a bullet had passed through the car door and it hit both
Bonnie and Clyde in the legs
Same bullet one bullet went through the cook because they were not fucking around
It's super bullet. Yeah, that was probably a BAR or something very high caliber. Yeah, but so wounded again again
Yeah, the pair went to a crooked doctor in Oklahoma and got fixed up and this would be such an embarrassment
First mood. Oh, this was a massive embarrassment because it's again. He failed again
He lost him again. And this was immediately blown up like Bonnie and Clyde can't be caught
I mean, I get it in the world if we lived in the dukes of hazard world see in Boss Hogs stomp on his head
It's kind of fun
Well, it was while Bonnie and Clyde were in Oklahoma though that they figured it'd be all right to swing by and seek some
Sanctuary with Pretty Boy Floyd because it was an open secret that Pretty Boy's headquarters were in Salisaw
A Pretty Boy Floyd had a decidedly low opinion of Bonnie and Clyde
But not because they were small timers and Floyd's words Bonnie and Clyde were too careless with the lives of civilians
Which was a fair opinion to have. Yeah, absolutely
But Floyd's sister-in-law didn't know this and welcomed them welcome them to the Floyd home because in her opinion
They looked like dog shit. They were filthy from bathing in muddy streams
Emaciated from eating fucking nothing but weenies and they were bandaged from multiple gunshot wounds burns and what-have-you's
Jesus Christ. It must smell like the mummy like if the mummy just ate gas station food
Now they only stayed a night or two
But when Floyd found out that they'd come by because Floyd wasn't there at the time
He told his family to never help them again saying quote if they don't like it. They can look me up
Cool because he'd kill him. He'd kill him. That's cool
Now it probably goes without saying that Bonnie and Clyde were at a bit of a low point in their career
I think that's a fair assessment. Yeah. Yeah, they're definitely at there. I would say the second iteration of talk soup
Yeah, yeah, yeah now they're I love that. Yeah, they're at their Michael Jordan playing for the wizards phase
Yeah, but strangely what would lift them back up was a plan from Clyde's past that just about everyone thought was a non-starter
They thought it was never going to happen. It was just pie in the sky
The eastem prison break. Yeah
Now as we mentioned earlier Raymond Hamilton had received a 99 year sentence for the murder of john butcher
And Raymond Hamilton had ended up at eastem and Clyde hadn't forgot about his promise to break Raymond free
And in january of 1934
Raymond got word to Bonnie and Clyde that he was ready to go
The plan was to have Raymond's brother Floyd plant a couple of pistols under a bridge near a back road where the prisoners
Were clearing out brush
Then on the agreed upon day Raymond Hamilton and his friend this guy named Joe Palmer
Would grab the guns get the drop on the guards and meet Clyde nearby in an escape car
Okay, and surprisingly they pulled it off. All right. It actually worked. Well, Clyde agreed
He's like because he didn't want to be fully involved. He's like it'll just be me and I will just all I do is drive
That's all I do. I have one job. Just like fucking Ryan Gosling. Yeah in the movie
He didn't say anything drive. He didn't have to know he was just his body spoke for him
Yeah, and the jacket and the jacket spoke and he drive and then he drove. Yeah
Joe Palmer and Raymond Hamilton shot and killed two guards before running into the woods followed by prisoners
Hilton Bobby JB French and Henry methen. All right
A methen wasn't a part of the original break plan
But Clyde had been having romantic ideas about an eastern break for years
So he liked the idea of bringing along one more guy who just to add the balls to run
Is romantic the right attitude for that? Yeah, I think totally. Yeah, right. It's a it's a romantic idea
Yeah, romance. Romantic doesn't just mean fucking
It doesn't just mean like it. It can also mean like a highfalutin like sort of uh,
Well to pie in the sky top idea. It's also a beautiful idea
And you think that it's more perfect than it is and you think that again
Well, I was saying before where Clyde Barrow believes that this is the thing that makes him a good guy
Yeah, he goes and he can really fucking like he'll get he'll fucking give something to the american punishment system. Yeah
The american punishment system that also sounds romantic the american punishment. Yeah, you can find that on kink.com
Oh, yeah, so meth then went in the trunk and the car made a clean getaway nice, but all this came at a
Gigantic cost. Mm. Although the prison break had filled the Barrow's gang's ranks with experienced criminals
Both the break at eastem and the inclusion of henry meth then would be the beginning of the end
That's because the eastem break introduced legendary texas ranger frank hamer into the story
Cool. Now if anyone got a raw deal in the 1967 bonnie and Clyde movie
It was frank hamer in the movie
He's portrayed as a kind of bumbling boss-host type character
Humiliatingly chasing bonnie and Clyde around the country while they laugh in his face and call him an idiot
And that ain't it now hamer was so provably different from that portrayal that his family sued
Warner brothers for defamation of character after the movie was released and got a tidy settlement for their troubles
Hey, all right. All of the hamers were very serious. Yeah, it sounds like it in reality
Frank hamer was what you would call the original texas lawman. He's the type of person that texans aspire to be
He's a frank hamer is the romantic ideal of what a texan is but very few actually
You are truly in love with frank hamer. I love frank hamer frank hamer's fucking great
Like he's like uh, he certainly wasn't perfect
But frank hamer was a shining example of heroism honor injustice and a time and place where all three were in very short supply
What was that chuck norris show where he was walker texas?
Well, don't even talk to me about walker texas
Oh, you don't like that chuck norris is a piece of shit
Whoa
Sometimes we open up a pandora's box and I don't know what you said man
Like with the with fart day. We got so upset. I don't even know. I didn't know he was a target for farts
But I thought that was a fun show because he was texas ranger and you're from texas
And I thought you might this is I'm doing mean to ruin the day
Well, frank hamer had been in the texas ranger since
1906 after he tracked down a horse thief just because he wanted to
And there was nary a time for the next 30 years that frank hamer wasn't in the service of the law
And if there's one thing frank hamer believed in it was the law
Okay, particularly it was the fair and equal protection of all people under the law regardless of race
Which in early 20th century texas was a stance that was not only just unusual but highly fucking dangerous
Oh, yeah, things had not really changed all that much if you think when did slavery end 1864
So it's 40 years ago. Yeah at this point. Holy shit frank hamer stopped countless racially motivated lynchings in texas
Oftentimes single-handedly facing down mobs of 50 people or more
One time he snuck two prisoners out of the back of the jail and hid with them
An alligator in an alligator infested swamp all night face down in the mud and tell the mob moved on
Look he is boss. You gotta think like a log
And eventually you become a log
Oh nice man people are so crazy in mobs. Oh man the mob mentality is forever horrified
Well another time hamer walked through an old school torches and pitchforks mob
Just kicking people who got in the way into the shins. Just kick them in the shins with his high pointed boots
Just say get get out of here. I'm gonna be kicking if you gonna be standing where i'm kicking
You're gonna get kicked
That's kick math
I love texas kick math. That's very good
Well most of the time like these mob assholes they would just back down on hamer say so like he had that much of a presence
He's a big guy, right?
Uh, he was big. Yeah, he was about six three six four. Oh my god by that and in that time
Yeah, he was like my size. Yeah. Yeah. Now hamer had actually got talked into joining the Ku Klux Klan in the early 20s
Wait, tell me this group of yours. It has both dragons and wizards
That's absolutely incredible. I've only seen fantasy novels and how I wish to be an elf, but
I'm not fair enough to be one of the beautiful 11 elven species that exists in the hills of galadriel
Well, this is back before anyone really knew who the kkk was this was like kind of in the resurgence in the 20s
Okay, uh, but hamer was told that they were like a booster club that was there
We were there to aid law enforcement. So hamer was like, all right. Well, you know shit
We need we need all the help we can get that's great
Yeah, but during the first and only meeting hamer attended the grand wizard started off by laying out a plan to tar and feather
A local sex work. Whoa, dude ease me in
Okay, why do we got to start at one of the extreme planets? Can't we just talk about making costumes?
Oh my leave leave them alone
Well frank hamer stood up walked to the center of the hall and told them that if they dared fucking do it
They even thought about doing it. He'd throw every man in that room in a jail
Whoa, there he is and with that hamer became a lifelong enemy of the kkk
He battled them his entire fucking career
But frank hamer also wasn't afraid to use his gun far from it by the end of his career
Frank hamer had killed 53 men in the line of duty and had been wounded 17 times
Something tells me earlier generations of men were tougher. Maybe what is it?
There's something about it. I don't know because all of this just sounds so like
Oh, yeah, like you mean to tell me you never stayed at the w this whole time
What is his medallion? That's what I want to find out. What's his delta medallion? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know
In fact, frank hamer used to tell new recruits the best way to enforce the law was with a 45 slug to the gun
Oh my and it wasn't like he was trigger happy. Remember this was a time when everyone in texas was
Armed. Yeah, he sounds like he was very trigger serious as a matter of fact
Well talking about how many men he'd killed hamer said this and this is a direct quote
The men I have shot down have all been criminals in the act of committing a crime
All resistant arrest. I'm hired to do that work. It's my job
I do it because I have to I don't like to talk about it. I'll think about it
It is something to be forgotten
Man talk just that's real man talk. I really do just see him just sort of
Taking off his pants because he wants to sit down and he rests them nice over the chair
So they don't crease. Yeah, he seems like that kind of guy very much so and I and in full disclosure
I have this respect for frank hamer knowing full well that he shot and killed my great great uncle
G mcmeans during the sims johnson war of 1917. Oh my goodness. This texas silmarillion
Bullshit all of this is like the river of time each every time we talk about this shit
It's all just deep texas fantasy book world. It really is so it was your great great great uncle
No, it was my great great uncle great great uncle. It was my grandfather's uncle. Oh, okay. Yeah, cool
Yeah, mcmeans is my mother's maiden name. I like mcmeans. It's a good one. Cool name. Good name for a football player
Yeah, now the sims johnson war is far too complicated for us to go into but to make it short
The war was a blood feud with frank hamer working as a bodyguard for the johnson's because he was married to a johnson
Am I great great uncle g who was also a texas ranger married to a sims? Why'd they fight all the time?
It was a blood feud
I mean come on. It's extremely. It's extremely complicated. Like I can't go into the sims johnson war
It all happened. It all happened in garza county outside of post near claremont. All it yeah
It's all about like somebody lost my shovel
Right, it's it sucks like that, right? It's very complicated. Yeah, it's it's a blood feud shit
You know, it's always one small thing to get the words blood feud like we are supposed to know
I had two diet cokes in this refrigerator and now there is one
And you know every day I have a diet coke on the way to work because I love aspartame
You want to have a blood for you?
Oh, I guess we got to have a blood feud then
The uncle g tried getting the drop on hamer and even managed to shoot hamer in the shoulder
But hamer pistol whipped my uncle and sent him running hamer gave chase and when and when mc means got to his car
And pulled out a shotgun hamer blew him away the inside information I got from my family though
Is that an assassin approached my great-great-grandfather a few days later and offered to take revenge on frank hamer for $500
But my great-great-grandfather
Was sick with the flu and died before he can give an answer
Which ended my family's involvement in the johnson sims war. All right, the flu is very dangerous in the story
Yeah, I guess so a man like in a kimono showed up like a man from the far east
The sword who's like it is my great honor to serve you to attack a man in his sleep
Is it that kind of assassin? No, just an old just some dude with the gun. He's not a guy. I'm just yeah
No, a guy who was kill bill just a random dude. He checked that
I mean he is an assassin just because he doesn't have a sword doesn't mean he's not an assassin
Like he's a guy that goes to people and say like you want a man dead
It seems like this man just wants to kill a man
I feel like that's it. It's a pre-murderer where for me an assassin has a sniper rifle in a billiard stick case
Like antonio bandero's in desperato
That was cool
But have my great-great-grandfather said yes
My family would have been pulled in to the sims johnson war
Which would have put the whole mcmeans family in danger
Which means that frank hamer could have severed my family's bloodline by possibly killing my great grandfather
And I wouldn't be talking to you guys right now
Whoa, this is like back to the future. Yeah
But at any rate frank hamer had been in and out. I just wanted to
No, it's it's absolutely wonderful. I'm very happy that frank hamer did not kill your family. Yeah
That's all I wanted to hear. I'm really glad they didn't unleash the texas terminator onto your entire family
Absolutely
Yes
But at any rate frank hamer had been in and out of the texas rangers for years by the time bonnie and clad came along
See for about a hundred years the texas rangers reported directly to the governor of texas
That meant that the quality of the texas rangers depended heavily on who was in office at the time
Some governors took it seriously and filled the ranks with good cops
But others used it as an opportunity to trade political favors
And so rangers often came and went depending on who was giving orders from austin at the time
And it just so happened that when bonnie and clad came along the texas rangers were full of
Incompetent lackeys of the famously corrupt maw ferguson who made a nice little side hustle selling pardons
What was the quote that hamer had about the texas rangers?
Was it uh, what a man who was wrong can never stand against a man who was right that doesn't stop coming
Now there's a myth that frank hamer quit when maw ferguson was elected because he refused to take orders from a woman
But frank hamer had already worked for maw ferguson during her first term in the mid 20s
But frank hamer knew that there was about to be another politically motivated ranger purge coming
And that meant that frank was on his way out. He knew he was going to get fired anyway
Right, right. So to stick it to the corrupt maw ferguson frank quit and on the way out
Said some misogyny shit just to stick it to maw. All right
But when the eastern breakout occurred prison superintendent lee simmons who was far
Crueler than he was weepily portrayed in the highwayman by the guy who played memey's husband in the drew carry show
That guy played him. What? Yeah, he was playing as this like weeping like oh, I just don't know what's gonna happen when my prison break happens
And he was the fucking psychopath with the bat. Yeah. Yeah, he was fucking awful. Yeah, it was a fun east. Um
I have no sympathy for any any of those motherfuckers
No, they should have burnt to the ground. Yeah memey bobeck stevens point wisconsin claimed to fame also
We got peter peter weller. Yeah from a robo cop and me cool. Oh, yeah
Well, lee simmons could not let the prison break stand and simmons could think of only one man
Who could finally come in and clean up the mess that bonnie and clide had made all over texas?
frank hamer
Now the pay wasn't great. Give me your clothes
As soon as he shows up. I don't really understand why you showed up new frank. Give me your clothes
Now the pay wasn't great
But the deal was finally cinched when simmons agreed to let hamer keep and sell
Anything he might find on bonnie and clide's person when he finally took them down
Hamer was also promised as much time as he needed to capture bonnie and clide
And he got an assurance that maw ferguson was behind him 100 percent regardless of politics or of their past
And once frank hamer was on their trail bonnie and clide had just a little more than three months to live
Uh-oh hamer's on it
Meanwhile now that bonnie and clide had actual professionals in their gang. They were doing better than ever
They just started figuring it out. They literally they are they are fucked up beyond belief
Right, but they are starting to get a system and starting to mature isn't that unfortunate
Well, their first robbery scored $3,800 which works out to about 72 grand in today's money
But a big reason why the robberies went so smoothly was because it was raymond hamilton and hilton
Bybe doing the actual bank robbing. Well, they were hard motherfuckers. Yeah, right
That should have been at the entire time bonnie and clide should have been the face
They should have had actual people working. They are the producers. Yes
And clide he was just the getaway driver, which was what he should have been doing the whole fucking time
Thing was about clide those that since family was so important to him
He didn't mind indulging the other members when they wanted to see their family. He's kind of like dav thomas
In a way. Yeah, it's something about in what way because dav thomas was an orphan
He said his whole thing about was creating families within the wendy's community
So we encourage families to work at the restaurant. First of all, I have no idea if any of that is true
This is I mean, I know that he's an orphan and he did like families
But it is interesting to say did you go into dav thomas like youtube hole or something? Dave thomas was a he's david copperfielder burgers
I
Did not know you love Dave thomas the founder of wendy's so much. I don't love him. I respect him. All right
He had a good idea and he ran with it square burgers
He got to love it
Well, the barrow gang started spending a lot of time in bianville parish in louisiana with the family of henry
methvin
Now although clide and henry methvin didn't know each other before the break they became fast friends
Oh and isam henry had earned the nickname tush hog, which was somehow a tribute to his toughness
It's interesting about how now if you were in prison and you got the nickname tush hog
It'd be different. It might be different. It might be different. Yeah, because it's like I quit hogging all the tush
Right
Yeah, that can go in a whole series of different directions. No, yeah, I think I don't know the idea of being up to your snout and tush
You know, I mean, that's nice. Of course. Yeah, I've seen the documents
I've seen the videos and clide liked henry a hell of a lot more than he liked ramon hamilton
See clide and ramon hamilton were still button heads
And it only got worse when ramon started bringing along his own body a woman named mario dare
Yes, and I think button heads is actually how henry got the name tush
Oh, yeah, Mary, but she had the bed. They're there. Uh, good dear dear. I didn't know
Yeah
Now although mary o dare sounds like the perfect bank robber girlfriend. She was really just a pain in the ass
Yeah, she was a real nancy spongion. Yeah, see bonnie totally understood that life on the road is hard bonnie didn't complain
But mary o dare spent her whole time pissing and moaning because they weren't going out to dinner at fancy places
And dancing in nightclubs every night like she thought a glamorous criminal gang should I mean honestly
She's what all of us would be doing
The thing is, well, yeah, I'm not we're not I'm not a tush hog. No, right? I'm not none of us
We're not we're not doing that. No
But she I don't know what she thought the idea of I mean like why would you go to a famous nightclub if you were on the run
From the law right you can't go to these places that thing about celebrity
Well, I think she had like a hollywood version in her head
Like she was watching all these movies like angels with dirty faces and stuff like that where she sees all these criminals hanging out
In nice suits. They've all got martini glasses and they're all having a wonderful time and mary o dare thought
Thought that's what life in the barrow gang was going to be but it's just fucking vienna weenies and bathing in streams
It's literally is someone who wants to get into the porno industry the sex work industry
And they just like go out to la and they're like this is going to be just like boogie knights
And then they're like did you finish the movie and then they're like no I watched the first half
No the first half we're fucking who's fucking rocking dude, you know, I mean
But clad was stuck with mary o dare because raymond was pretty much the only one in the gang
Who really knew what they were doing?
But finally mary went too far when she tried to get rid of clad because mary really liked bonnie
But mary didn't like clad you're gonna piss off bonnie
One night after bonnie and clad got into a particularly bad fight
mary tried to convince bonnie to slip clad a mickey and leave him behind to form a new gang
With mary and raymond. Yeah, that's a bad look dude because bonnie is fucking loyal
And you forget she is a fucking little serpent like at some point. She's just like what?
What did you just say do what to who and then you know mary o dare is thinking they're just having fun
And then all of a sudden is a click click her fucking eyes change
Well, that's what people gotta realize when you're in a battle when you're in war
I mean obviously we haven't been in gunfights together, but we've gone through a lot together and we can make fun of each other
But when someone from the outside says something it's just like no no you don't get to do that
No, yeah, but you like your fucking kneecaps. Do you want to keep them? You literally just started in this gang, right? Like nope
Well after that clad told raymond and mary to fuck off and clad and raymond never worked together again
Wow now they might have eventually crossed paths again. If not for the fact that bonnie and clad were going to be dead
Very soon. Oh, they had to know this was coming though, right? Well, they
Technically in a way hoped it would happen because that's how all of these stories end and ablaze the glory
I mean bonnie had always other she had a whole side plan where she thought that they would retire to the hills
And they would do all this shit that was not going to fucking happen
Yeah, because clad didn't know how to live another life
Right, right now, but at this point are they pretty well healed up
Yeah, for the most part. I mean bonnie's bonnie is healed up. She can like kind of hop along
They're not like they don't have gaping wounds anymore. Okay, but yeah, they are healed up enough. Yeah, they're not hill ghouls anymore
They are just they are aft up
Yeah
Well frank hamer was hot on their trail working in total secrecy hamer traced bonnie and clad steps
Sometimes sleeping in his car and eating canned food and hot dogs in an attempt to get in a clad barrows head
He went into full christian bale method acting praises being like first thing i'm gonna do
I'm gonna tie my leg up to my butt. So I know what it's like to hop
Can you imagine just getting into phil hamer's uber ride just after he's been in there for 18 hours eating sausages
I just got my stink till right. We're out of liking where the flies die
Now the myth is that hamer did this for the entire three months that he chased them
But really hamer was still going back home for his wife gladis is cooking every once in a while
Yeah, it's like christian bale. Yeah, he is batman on set all day
But he still has like a nutritionist and he's still got to go to the fucking gym
He's still got like a couple of calls. He's gonna have to take where he does have to be like
Yes, I would like to put a travel notice on my debit card
Yes, I'm going to Canada
Who's playing the new batman?
Uh, robert paterson. I'm excited for it. It'll be fine. We're all cool with it. Yeah, and I'm gonna be penguin
If the ground swell is enough behind me. I saw at least eight retweets
But the interesting thing about hamer is that while he started off with a horse and a sick shooter in 1906
He was a full on detective by the time he started chasing bonnie and clide
Well versed in ballistics fingerprints and criminal psychology
So using those instincts hamer started following leads
Particularly leads that sprung from the eastern prison break
Teaming up with some of the dallas deputies who had been trying to catch the barrow gang for years hamer went to
Louisiana see for the most part bonnie and clide had steered clear of Louisiana when it came to their crimes
Which meant the criminal investigations concerning bonnie and clide were non-existent when it came to that state
But hamer figured that the lack of investigation
Actually made it the perfect place to investigate
Right and his hunch turned out to be correct and looking into the lives of some of the criminals involved in the prison break
hamer discovered that although henry metham wasn't originally from Louisiana. That was where his family now lived
Specifically, they lived in bianfell perish. So hamer keeping the lowest possible profile
Traveled to bianfell perish and contacted sheriff henderson jordan and told him to give hamer a ring
Should bonnie and clide ever show up pretty soon after that
Sheriff jordan got a call from henry metham's father ivy
Now the methans were not well liked in bianfell perish ivy was a mean drunk and his wife ava was just as bad
I like it when there's two mean drunks. Yeah, it's fun, right? Yeah
But despite their shortcomings they still loved their son henry and they wanted to do everything
They could to rescue henry from the troubles he'd gotten himself into
So ivy metham told sheriff jordan that he gladly turned over bonnie and clide just so long as henry
Got a pardon for any and all crimes he committed in the state of texas. Oh, all right. Absolutely. Oh, yeah
I mean, that's what they do because texas will just gladly pardon you at this point in time
And then of course he could work as a tush hog
Dancing his entire life away. He could teach tush augury
at the local university
So jordan called up hamer and hamer agreed because hamer had pretty much been given carte blanche to do whatever he wanted
By ma furgusson just so long as hamer brought in bonnie and clide
But this time at this point he's so deep into his method copping that he is in the swamp dressed as a fern
Waiting for them to come back and forth and he's like they call me like frank frank. Don't call me frank
Call me mr. Plank
But plants don't talk frank i'm gonna shoot you in the god damn
But right around that time henry would be directly responsible for a crime that would almost sink the whole deal
And that same act would also turn the tide of public opinion concerning america's favorite outlaw couple
So they're still getting cheers in the streets up to this point. Yep. Okay on easter sunday
1934 bonnie clide barrow gang member joe palmer and henry metham were on their way to west dallas to spend a nice afternoon
With a barrow and parker families bonnie had even brought along a little pat rabbit to give to her mother which bonnie had named sunny boy
Oh, I will say a rabbit's a terrible gift. Yeah, willy poop a lot
They are they I love when we had a rabbit for a short period of time
I loved philip and he was a lovely rabbit. I had a rabbit named rusty everything is covered in shit
Yes, that's the problem and they bite and they do bite small pellets. Yeah
So once the barrow gang got close
Joe was sent in a town to give instructions to the families on when and where to meet in the meantime
Bonnie clide and henry metham were waiting on the side of the road on highway 114
Just north of grapevine for palmer to return
It's at this point the two motorcycle cops 26 year old eb wheeler and 24 year old hd murphy
Spotted the trio and decided to investigate and once again the woefully underprepared cops had no idea who they were approaching
And when clide spotted them coming he turned to henry metham and said let's take them
But it's been important and which we now have discussed as a group if you have a criminal gang
You need to all get on the same term get on the same page right? Oh, what the terms mean? What's the slang?
What are we talking about here? Yep?
Because to clide this meant let's take them hostage and dump them down the road somewhere then get the hell out of dodge
Okay, which was the same thing the barrow gang had done half a dozen times before
It's like when we say we want to record a podcast what we say is we want to toss a loogie. Yeah, that's right
We always say that you're gonna go toss a loogie
I think that's how you become a tush hog as well
Mm-hmm
But henry was new to the gang
He hadn't been on the road with clide and buck and wd back when they did shit like that all the time
Plus metham was drunk and when metham got drunk. He got aggressive. Yeah
So when clide said let's take him what henry heard was
Let's kill him
So when one of the cops got off their bike and approached the car
henry whipped out a bar and fired without warning hitting eb wheeler in the chest and killing him
Instantly as far as the other cop went it was his first day on patrol
And he hadn't even loaded his shotgun or even gotten off his bike yet
No, like cuz it's just like
Like cuz this is a wild gun. Yeah, and as he fumbled for the shells clied
He knew they'd crossed a point a no return
He just took the cue and clied blasted the rookie with the shotgun killed him as well
I mean, I guess at that point
I mean, it's just like it was like, all right. Well, I guess we're doing this now
Now we got either we do this or we die
Then henry walked up to both cops and fired a few more shots into their prone bodies to make sure they were dead
Or at least that's one version of the story. Although it's the one most likely
Old man schaefer told a different story
William Schaefer who was watching from his front porch half a mile away
Went on record with both the press and the police saying that he personally saw bonnie deliver the kill shots
While the cops were laying on the ground saw bonnie deliver the kill shots who has one leg
Yes, but that wasn't the story told by mr. And mrs. Fred giggle
It's the saddest thing I've ever seen he went he shot
That young cop right in the dick
I just don't think you're taking this very seriously mrs. Giggle. I am more upset than you can
Imagine
Well, the giggles had been out for a sunday drive and they were much closer to the scene than old man schaefer
And the story the giggles told matches up with what clied later told his family. Okay
Regardless though schaefer story old man schaefer. That was the one the press went with
And movie theaters across the country showed newsreels of old man schaefer
Colorfully re-enacting the scene in his front yard. He wouldn't believe it. She came out the car just baboon baboon baboon
Huge breasts showing exposed and then she put the gun in her pajette
Really?
And she went and then clod took off the dress and the two of them started making love in the ditch
You see and that's when I entered and I said can I watch and then clod said let me watch
Right and the next thing I know we're cornholing each other while the radio was playing and then started raining right
And that was one of the best days of
Well as a journalist, I know that you're lying, but also as a journalist. That's the story
We're gonna use that's the story. We're gonna go with
Well things looked even worse for the barrow gang when it was revealed the officer murphy
Was just two weeks from his wedding and shit got real bad when his fiance showed up to murphy's funeral
In her goddamn wedding dress. Oh
It's like it's like november rain. Yeah, it is like it literally is november rain
Yeah, oh man
Furthermore the cops had a vested interest in bonnie and clad being the soul murderers here the wheels for henry metham's pardon
We're already turning and if it came out that henry metham was a murderer
It might put a kibosh on frank hamer's whole operation
So he got away with one he got away with him
Now the public had always assumed that clad was a straight psychopath
But that image had always been tempered by bonnie who'd always seemed like a good time girl along for the ride
Right as such if bonnie ever turned herself in or was caught it was assumed that she'd get off with a relatively light prison sentence
Maybe 10 years 15
But all that changed after what came to be known as bloody easter
Now you had old man shaffer's image of bonnie murdering an honest young cop with a shotgun
Laughing and saying look at how his head bounces
So if bonnie was caught she was going to the fucking chair
Woo ma Ferguson even put a price on bonnie's head for the first time offering
$500 each for bonnie and clad
But the barrel gang wasn't done just yet five days after bloody easter bonnie clad henry and the rabbit
Got stuck in the mud once again after some heavy oklahoma reigns
And i'll tell you what that rabbit was the actual psychopath
Absolutely it had a little grenade up its asshole. Is that right? Yeah, i've seen donnie darko. I know how it goes
So the gang decided to just sleep in the car and wait for the road to solidify
And that's how officers percy boyd and cal camble found them
See the cops thought they just found a car loaded drunks
And when the barrel gang saw the cops approaching clad tried to get away
But the road was still wet so the tires sunk down to the rims
Now cal camble was just an old man who'd taken up a constable job to shore up some of his losses in the depression
And because he was barely trained if at all he was a little jumpy
He thought he saw someone go for a gun so camble drew his piddly little pistol and fired
Of course the barrel gang responded
With rifles a bullet severed camble's aorta and he died shortly thereafter
And the barrows hit boyd as well
But decided to take him hostage instead of finishing him off
The problem was that the car was still stuck in the mud
There's a lot of logistics. Yeah, always with bonnie and clad absolutely
Luckily though, this was a relatively populous area
So when the shooting started a few farmers came out of their houses to see what was going on
And after noticing them clad immediately drafted the farmers with his gun and got them to work on pushing out the car
Ah leadership's about delegation. I guess so and anytime a motorist stopped to see if they could help clad pointed his rifle in their
Direction and made them get out of their car and help as well
It wasn't until a man named charlie dobson came by with a chain and a truck that the ford v8 finally got free
The whole thing had taken about 40 minutes
Okay, the whole time there's corpse of this old man sitting in the road right next to him
Geez
But only a few miles away the barrow gang found the road blocked by two more cars stuck in the mud as well
Oh my goodness. This is such a pain in the god damn ass
All of it. It's just nothing's easy. You remember they haven't stopped
This has been this is another week of just constant
Yeah movement
This is five days after the after bloody easter and they've been on the road the whole fucking time
And so when the other two when they found the other two cars stuck in the mud Clyde and Henry got out and helped them
Push the cars out of the way and this whole time officer Boyd was tied up in the car with Bonnie
And when Boyd was dropped off a few hours later
He said that he was totally convinced that Bonnie and Clyde were not cold-blooded murderers
Although there may have been a little Stockholm syndrome at work here
Boyd said that he was convinced they were just dumb kids drowning in the deep end
And he kind of even forgave them for killing his partner
Well, it was uh, it was the first day on the job for his partner. They didn't have a chance to bond
And when they let Boyd go he asked Bonnie if there was anything she wanted to tell the press on behalf of the barrow gang
And Bonnie's only statement was this
Tell them I don't smoke cigars
Ma'am that is like the least of
What they're saying about you in the papers. They they said that you're a murderer and you're hanging out with like a rapist
I'm no Kevin Spacey. I don't smoke cigars
I don't think
And still this whole time the state of texas was working on a pardon for Henry metham
Despite the fact that he'd been involved in two murders. It seems like he was the most aggressive one. Yes
Very much so and by this time it was well known that Frank Hamer was on the trail
After Bloody Sunday Hamer put together a posse and since the texas government had to look like it was doing
Something they released Hamer's involvement to the press which is he was trying to keep as quiet as possible for so long because he knew
The longer he was operating in silent with silence and in secrecy without them knowing that he was on this trail
That then he would be able to catch up to them easy
But the fact that Frank Hamer was on the trail didn't really bother Bonnie and Clyde
Now it could be that they were too young to know just how legendary Frank Hamer was because Frank Hamer was a celebrity
It could also be they figured one more cop. Who gives a shit right?
There's already a thousand cops after us right now who gives a shit from one more guy
Sure, but he didn't understand it was fucking it is
Steven Seagal, but from under siege not in real life. Oh, that's good. Yeah, that's good
Oh under Steve and Seagal very badass back when he was thin kind of
Well, Frank Hamer's original plan was to take Bonnie and Clyde alive
And this was despite the fact that the barrow gang notoriously never surrendered no matter what the situation
And really Frank Hamer was by no means a stranger to shooting first and asking questions later
His real issue was that he didn't want to have to kill a woman. So it's very it's very weird
It's very old very old school Texas honor like I don't want to shoot a woman
But they viewed Bonnie as not a woman. They viewed her as a syphilis ridden gargoyle
That was the whole thing
Was that anybody any woman that consorted with criminals like this were supposed to be like property of the gang?
And that's all she did and obviously a lot of slut shaming involved
Well, that's what a lot of the Dallas police Frank Hamer was just pretty much like no, she's just a person
I don't want to shoot a woman. She's a criminal like all the rest like he didn't really pay attention to a lot of the
Like the more like personal stuff that didn't really matter. He's like, I don't fucking care
No, like he's she's killed. She's been involved in the deaths of
I think eight police officers at this point. Yeah, I don't think Frank Hamer is going to be like
Do you think that megan markle is cheating on Prince Harry? I don't know. I don't know
Well, the thing is that his original plan skirted the inevitability of murdering Bonnie and Clyde
See when the barrow gang came to be involved perished to visit Henry methan's family
They didn't stay with the methans. They stayed in an old abandoned house, which was fairly easy to do
Since the countryside was littered with foreclosed homes. Oh, okay
So Frank's plan was to figure out where they were going to sleep beforehand sneak in while the gang was asleep
Pistol weapon and submission kick their guns away and take them in. Let me see those kneecaps. Yeah
Let me see those shins. I'm my girl. This is the tarniest leg I've ever seen on a woman
Let me pull it a little bit
Fun. It's a fun little leg you got
But it soon became clear to Hamer that this wasn't going to be an option
The biggest problem was that it was damn near impossible to tell when the barrow gang was staying the night or when they were just passing through
And after the barrow gang killed Cal Campbell, Hamer knew that the longer the barrow gang was out there
The more dead cops that were going to be laying in the ditches of texas in oklahoma
Yeah, you want to kind of avoid that I think yeah, he just wanted to get him the fuck off the road
No matter what the cost. Yes. Okay. So he kind of switched cheese. He's he's going away from his more passive ways
Yeah, so Frank figured the only way to take him down was a good old-fashioned ambush
The plan was fairly simple
First they had to make sure Henry Methvin wasn't anywhere near Bonnie and Clyde when the ambush occurred because Frank Hamer
Prided himself on never going back on his word. He always said every time he made a deal with the criminal
Doesn't matter who he is doesn't matter what he did if he made a deal. He was going to honor his word
That's a that's a big promise though. Yeah, we'll see what happens
Honestly, this is getting me really excited for rob zombies three from hell. Yeah for some reason. I feel like this is like a
I feel like it
support for that
So during one of the quick visits Ivy Methvin took his son aside and told him about the deal
Now Henry was a little incredulous at first
But it didn't take him long to accept the fact that he could either live with the betrayal or die with Bonnie and Clyde
Yeah, because he wasn't codependent on Bonnie and Clyde and I imagine he's watching them fuck all the time or dude
Like, you know have a relationship and shit. He's just a kind of third wheel
The second part of Hamer's plan was to make sure that the Barrow gang came to see Bienville as a safe haven
And this is how Hamer actually used the press to his advantage
He deliberately made it look like he was focusing on Arkansas, Missouri, Texas and Oklahoma
And he made damn sure no one saw him in Louisiana
Well, I put on this wig and this fancy dress and again, I completely blend in
Can you see my ample bosom? I have married a local businessman who's taking care of me and our two children
Learn that from watching John candy and armed and dangerous
It's a great film. Well that way the Barrow gang would start to think of Bienville as a place where they could drop their guard
And so on the weekend of May 19th
Frank Hamer got word that Bonnie and Clyde were in Bienville for an extended stay
As soon as he heard Hamer put together a posse of six men including himself his buddy from the Texas Rangers
Manny Galt, deputies Hinton and Alcorn and Dallas who were able to give a positive idea of Bonnie and Clyde
And deputy Oakley and Sheriff Jordan from Bienville Parish
And spider ham
It's Peter Parker
Honestly, that is that I wasn't into comedy
Comic books. I'd ever liked funny books, but I did like spider. I almost cried. It was so cute
So as planned Henry Methman disappeared from the gang soon after arriving in Bienville
Tell him Bonnie and Clyde that he was going to go see his cousin Willy
And you can pick me up at my dad's place later. But back in the day
Go see and your cousin Willy used to be uh
tag used to be slang for
Masturbating it. Okay. Thank you
I'm gonna go see my cousin Willy not in public
Who and Bonnie and Clyde went to go fetch Henry Methman
Ivy told them that Henry wouldn't be back until the next day at 9 a.m
It must be a long masturbation session and as soon as Bonnie and Clyde agreed to come back at the appointed time
The trap was set. Yep. Oh, so Henry was all in Henry was all in Henry knew exactly what was happening the whole time
He completely betrayed them. He completely fucked him over to save his own skin. I'm looking at both of y'all right now
I don't know what I'll do. I don't know what my price is. It's like the end of the movie the thing
I don't know who which one of us will turn on the other but in the end
It was a good ride wasn't it boys. Yeah
Yeah, it was pretty fun
Yeah, it was pretty fun
Well that night the posse of six set up an ambush site on the road to Ivy Methman's house
Sitting about 10 feet apart the posse was armed with lever action rifles
35 caliber rifles made to kill big game and of course bar's
But hammer had the biggest guns of all
He'd brought a 12-gauge shotgun and a colt monitor machine rifle with a 20 shot magazine
Known as one of the ultimate kill shot weapons due to their ability to punch through damn near
Anything he had the 1930s version of old painless from predator
He's got the jaw in and I gotta take some of this will make you a sexual tyrant
A source oh my goodness the location of the ambush was just as important as the firepower
They were using the place they set up camp was such that while they could see anyone coming down the road
Whoever was coming down the road couldn't see them
And for bait the posse used who else but old ivy methan
They had him pull his truck over to the side of the road and remove a wheel
And they knew that Clyde had warm enough feelings for ivy that he'd feel obliged to pull over and help
Wow
So at 8 a.m. That morning methvin took the wheel off his truck and waited problem was
Plenty of friendly country folk were ready and willing to render assistance. You need help with the wheel
We're doing a trap for law enforcement. Is it a trap for me? No, you're good. I'm good. You're good
Do you need help with the wheel? It's a trap for law enforcement. No, you're good
Oh, that meant that ivy just had to keep waving people off
That ivy's a real asshole. I tried to help him with his fucking tire and he said I wasn't even good enough to help him
But just after 9 a.m. Though the posse heard the high pitched wine of a ford v8 coming down the road
Now hamer had never actually seen body and Clyde in the flesh until this moment
But Ted Hinton who knew Bonnie from her waitress in days
He ideated her as soon as they were in sight and as predicted when Clyde saw that it was ivy methvin on the side of
The road he slowed down to see how he could help
It was at this point that frank hamer stood up. It was just about to give Bonnie and Clyde the chance to surrender
but
B in vel parish deputy prentice Oakley was understandably
A little jumpy. Yeah, given how many times Bonnie and Clyde had escaped and how many cops they had killed while they were escaping
Understandable Oakley was also a crack shot
So with no prompting Oakley squeezed the trigger and sent a spray of bullets flying towards the car
One entered
Directly into the side of Clyde Barrow's head killing him instantly
I really thought you were gonna say and then he lived for another eight months
They were back on the road. He went back to school. He became a barber
Wow
The men present said that the scream that came from Bonnie's mouth immediately afterward haunted them for years
Oh my god
But it was too late to stop as soon as Bonnie screamed
Clyde's foot slipped off the clutch and the ford started slowly moving forward
He was at that moment that
Everybody opened fire
It's fucking crazy dude in 16 seconds the six lawmen pumped 150 bullets into the car
They ripped Bonnie to shreds
Then when the car stopped Hamer walked up to the vehicle
Opened the door and fired a few more shots in the bodies just to make sure
Wow
Ted Hinton said that when they opened the doors
Bonnie and Clyde's bodies looked like nothing more
Than wet red rags
Wow 16 seconds ends this whole
Crazy tail and not a goddamn one of the cops helped Ivy metham put the wheel back on the car
They didn't help the goddamn guy with the wheel
Okay, when you guys help me out feel like hey, oh man, you asked me earlier. You want to come help me with the car?
Fuck you
So almost immediately Ted Hinton started filming the scene a reporter had given him a 16 millimeter
Movie camera for when he finally got Bonnie and Clyde and Hinton had been carrying around this movie camera in the trunk of his car
for 17 months
Wow
Among Bonnie and Clyde's personal effects were three bar's two sawed-off shotguns almost a dozen handguns
2 000 rounds of ammo
15 license plates suitcases full of clothes makeup fishing tackle roadmaps a book called the saga of billy the kid
True crime magazines featuring stories about themselves
And a saxophone holy shit. It's the entire rider for the east street band. Isn't that interesting? Oh my god
Frank hammer took the guns
So he could sell them to true crime memorabilia collectors because that was already a big business
And he took the tackle box for his own personal use as payment for a job well done
So he just wanted lures out of the thing lures this whole thing was a large play for him to get lures lures and the guns
Yeah, but he also this is just you've been hunting these dudes. Yeah, you've been dressed as a plant for three weeks
Dressed as a plant
No, I mean, we don't know if you know
See that's the great thing with just saying stuff
But bob alcorn he took the sax but he later felt guilty about it and returned the sax to the barrow family
Interesting now word had spread fast in bm val Paris that Bonnie and Clyde had been killed down the road
And pretty soon souvenir hunters showed up trying to pry bullets out of tree trunks with pocket knives
One dude even tried clutch cutting off Clyde's ear and his trigger finger
But was pulled back by the cops on the scene before he could do it
The most morbid thing that a few of them managed to get was a lock of Bonnie's bloody hair
I feel like this is a fun answer to how many times we've done interviews with journalists and shit where they ask
So why true crime now?
Or you're like, it's uh been worse the best actually. It's been a lot worse. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, we just laugh and joke no people used to go and try to cut the fingers off of dead criminals
So they could put it on their mantle. What do you do with the trigger finger though? That's just
Disconnected from a body. What do you do with it? Look at it? Yeah, you look at it. You pickle it
You pickle it. Okay. Well by that afternoon the car with Bonnie and Clyde's corpses still inside
Was towed to the nearby town of Arcadia
The only hitch came when the tow truck broke down in front of an elementary school
Right in the middle of recess
This if all three of us were on that elementary school playground, we'd be like
This is the best
Somehow the cops weren't able to stop a throng of children approaching the car
And one of the more curious kids just reached up and pulled the sheets right off of the body
I'll show you guys
Again, the bodies of the funeral home was even more of a chore within hours of the ambush
16,000 people had gathered in this town of 3,000 and the undertaker had to walk out and spray them all with embalming fluid to get
It a backup
That's something I've always wanted to do
But although the two lovers were inseparable in life
Emma Parker made sure that Clyde did not have Bonnie in death. And so the two of them were buried apart
10,000 people showed up to Clyde's funeral in Dallas where he was buried with his brother buck in the shadow of a shared tombstone
But that was nothing compared to Bonnie's funeral
20,000 people showed up to see Bonnie get buried
Wow
Bonnie was this in celebration or in grief?
Uh, was it curiosity. It was it was it was respectful. Okay. Yeah, it's a big moment at the time
They were they were massive symbols at the time both, uh, and it's hard when you're
Like icons can be neutral. I think I think that there's there's a part of it where they obviously they the story is done
They're terrible criminals
But there's something about it that meant something to the country
And so when they when they died, there's a little bit of when you're living vicariously through them and your
Romantic fake idea of their freedom also dies. Yeah, and it shows like and a part of it
I think they almost encourage people to show up to these funerals being like
This is what happens when you become a bank robber
You get shot 150 times and get turned into mush
But while Bonnie and Clyde were the first of the celebrity criminals to die in the 30s
They were by no means the last by the end of that year
1934 John Dillinger pretty boy Floyd baby face Nelson and the whole Barker gang were all dead
at the hands of law enforcement
It was like it was the kickoff where it's like all right
We're not even going to pretend to capture these people anymore. We're just going to fucking kill them
Right. They're like the the wild west is dead. We will see to it. That's what they're trying to do
Right interesting and as far as Henry Methven's pardon went he got a scott free for his crimes in texas
He's the one who shot the cop. He's the one that shot the motorcycle cop, but it wasn't he still a prison escapee?
Henry Methven. Yes, but it was but he got a pardon for all of his all of it. Okay, all of it
but
That pardon deal didn't extend to oklahoma
because
Methven
Went down for the murder of Cal Campbell because remember right after they killed the two motorcycle cops
They went up to oklahoma and killed a guy up there and the pardon deal was only with texas
So they were like, yeah, you got pardon, but uh
All right, we're taking you to oklahoma. It's like what's happening with paul manifort right now. Yeah
Oh, yeah, they wanted to get him. Yeah, but
Hamer still came and testified on Methven's behalf because the deal was a deal you help me out
I'll help you out. That's the way it goes. All right
Methven served only eight years and got parole
So he murdered two people and got eight years after a prison escape. Yep. Yeah, not bad
And then died a few years later after he passed out drunk on a train track and a locomotive cut him in half
Well, that was bound to happen. Yeah, that's called going from a 12 inch or two a six incher
W.D. Jones, he lived until 1974. No, he even did like an interview with playboy magazine in like the early 70s
It's an interesting read because it's him talking about back in the day and how
I I that's a cool time period in the 1970s because people like
Charlie Chaplin were still a lot like those things where they bleed over from a truly
A middle period of the american
Timeline right go and mean like all of this. It's like now that all those people are gone
Well, things about W.D. Jones though is he was shot to death by the boyfriend of a woman
He'd taken home from a bar. Wow. That's how he ended his life. Oh my goodness and uh, Joe Palmer and Raymond Hamilton
They got sent to the chair for completely separate crimes outside of the barrow gang. They were cruising for it though
Yeah, they were just they were just they were gonna end up in the chair eventually
Okay, most the barrow and parker family though. They ended up doing time for harboring known criminals
They had got anywhere from a few hours to some of them got two years in prison. Okay, Cume and Emma
They both did a month each. Hmm. Really. It seems like the only
Kind of sort of happy ending when it comes to the story involves the infamous Bonnie and Clyde death car
Thank you. It's like her be the lovebug. Oh, yeah
Well, see since the car was stolen it was returned to the original owner in the condition in which it was recovered. That's great
Thank you so much. It's like the big Lebowski
And since it was useless for driving the owner rented it out to a guy who called himself
The crime doctor for a hundred and fifty dollars a week hell, yeah
And the crime doctor took it to county fairs throughout america for years afterwards
I wish charles manson would have just married star
We'd see a fucking stuffed up a taxi derby charles manson just in a in a glass car
I don't understand why he was against that plan. It is the way serial killers should go out
The idea of making him a sideshow would have been fucking incredible
We could have opened for him
Yeah, and the crime doctor he even took emma and cumie on a tour for a time with the car, which is a little weird
A little bit. Yeah, the whole thing is a little weird. Yeah, all things a little weird
But the car eventually got a permanent home at whiskey pete's casino in prim navada
Where it can still be visited to this day. What a beautiful town that must be prim navada whiskey pete's wow
I love it. Oh, right, and that is the story of bonnie and
Clyde
Goodbye love. Goodbye tenderness. Goodbye bonnie and Clyde. They're in the sky being stupid
On the other side robin robin gods banks. That is awesome. What a tail. Yeah
And a special thanks to everyone who helped out on this episode including research assistant rachel shoo
And carolina who was invaluable with the gang and frank hamer research
All right, and if we may have a 32nd profanity free segment starting the clock now
I would like to thank my niece
kelby parks who did the legwork on the g mcmean story
And she's already a true crime nerd in training at 12 despite having no idea what I do for a living
So thank you very much kelby her father is allowing her to listen to this 32nd segment
Of the show you did a good job kelby
It's seriously as read go down together because like we weren't able to cover
Even half of the story in this series like this story
This story truly is is actually crazier and more intense and more complicated than even than we were able to really cover
Do you ever read the book dolgren? No dolgren is an as a hallucinatory
sci-fi book from the 70s that reminds me of this whole story
Where it is there are so many alleyways
And it's a if we talked about a last episode where it's like this kind of fever dream that you're caught in
Where their exploits were it's so interesting like when you read go down together you feel like you're with them
Like you feel like you can what what it's like to be on the road like it's a nightmare
Like they're they're part of it. It's really scary for me. Obviously they did they deserved it entirely
They deserve to be hunted
But that feeling of like you can't go anywhere and you can't do anything the shit, but you can also see how it's also
Brought them together because they were the only people that understood
What they were experiencing nobody else in the world
Knew what bonnie and clad were going through but bonnie and clad right absolutely
All right. Well, that was awesome
Little history lesson there
So we got a bunch of shows coming up where we're right now obviously we're in beautiful australia. This tour has been dope
Thanks for everyone who came out to our show in Perth
Adelaide was so awesome. We're excited for sydney
Melbourne and brisbane. It's gonna be completely dope and then we will be in california. Yeah
My contact just fell out
Yeah, go to last podcast on the left.com for all of the shows
That we left coming up in the next year. We're going to europe. We're coming to california
We're coming to the midwest
We're coming to you know, the new york area new jersey
The pennsylvania all kinds of fucking places man. I can't believe we're doing a casino show in atlantic city
I am so excited. It's like ridiculous. It's gonna be fucking weird. It's gonna be real weird. I'm really excited
I'm gonna I am that is the one time I will gamble. Can you play blackjack with me please? Of course roulette
Oh, yeah, no, I'll go with you on a casino adventure in ac. That's a one
That's a one spot. I'll do it because it'll be a little dalliance
But I don't like I like spending money on things I get no, but when you spend money you can actually get money at a casino
I I you can't I am bad gambler. I am bad gambler
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